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Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: We're on from one until four, then after four o'clock

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Speaker 2: John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app. And

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Speaker 2: we are going to be talking to Janet Win in

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Speaker 2: just a second. Janet Win is a state senator. It

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Speaker 2: has been discovered that buried deep within a document by

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Speaker 2: the California Air Resources Board, there's going to be about

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Speaker 2: a dollar's worth of extra gas tax over the next

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Speaker 2: two years. If you rounded off, it's about fifty cents

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, fifty cents in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: This was buried in something that passed way back in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and seven. That would have been the Schwarzenegger

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Speaker 2: years where he fell in love with the global warming cult,

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Speaker 2: and all these years later, these massive gas taxes are

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Speaker 2: going to kick in called a low carbon fuel standard.

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Speaker 2: So let's see what's going on. Janet Win. Welcome, How

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Speaker 2: are you?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 4: Thank you John, How are you? Thank you for having

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Speaker 4: me before we talk about the gas tax I just

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Speaker 4: want to thank you personally and your audience, because remember

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Speaker 4: I came on a few weeks a month or two ago.

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Speaker 4: In regard to the animal welfare bills, well, are both

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Speaker 4: of our bills have passed the committee and it's heading

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Speaker 4: to the Senate floor. And so it's a huge heart

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Speaker 4: for us to get to this point. And I want

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Speaker 4: to thank you for being the voice of animals because

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Speaker 4: they don't have a voice, and we are their voices.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much, the voice of animals. And

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Speaker 2: take that on the voice of animals.

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Speaker 4: We talked, well, no, let's not do that. But you know,

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Speaker 4: in terms of the gas tax, I've got a couple

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Speaker 4: of updates. You've helped us publicize, you know, the forty

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Speaker 4: seven cents gas tax incre next year, and the news

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Speaker 4: has gone ever as you mentioned. So now I have

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Speaker 4: a petition that I'm asking your viewers uh listeners to

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Speaker 4: feel and hopefully send it back to us electronically so

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Speaker 4: then we can go right to CARB. We want them

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Speaker 4: to do two things. One is analyzed these price increases

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Speaker 4: and two is be transparent to the public. And the

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Speaker 4: second update to this is that we I've joined twenty

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Speaker 4: five legislators and we wrote a letter to CARB this

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Speaker 4: week and we demand, of course transparency over the whole

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Speaker 4: scheme of them hitting us with the secret tax increase.

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Speaker 4: They're not transparent, and we all know that carb ones is,

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Speaker 4: you know, the EV tax and not you know, when

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Speaker 4: you talk about EV tax, which is the car the

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Speaker 4: low carb it's the forty seven cents that we talked

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Speaker 4: about for next year, which remember we are currently only

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Speaker 4: paying twelve cents right now per gallon. It's going to

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Speaker 4: be forty seven cents next year. And it's ongoing that

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Speaker 4: we haven't even talked about the cap and trade. There's

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Speaker 4: so many taxes going on in the gas that it's

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Speaker 4: hidden and no one talks about it, and no one

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Speaker 4: knows about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're talking about a dollar extra in

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Speaker 2: gas taxes extra two years from now, by twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six that we're going to be paying. And all this

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Speaker 2: stuff passed a long time ago. Nobody admits to it,

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Speaker 2: nobody remembers it. I don't think anybody was aware of

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Speaker 2: it at the time. And even if we were aware

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Speaker 2: tax that comes seventeen years later. So it gets it gets,

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Speaker 2: it's forgotten, it's lost in the mist, gets lost in

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Speaker 4: And most people think that when they pump gas. That

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Speaker 4: task it's just a state gas tax and a fetal

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Speaker 4: there's a cap and trade tax. It's a tax on

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Speaker 4: the tax, and it's gone to the point where it

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Speaker 4: is just eating up everything in our life. Everything costs

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Speaker 4: more because as you know, and as we talked about,

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Speaker 4: needs to be either by truck or by diesel truck.

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Speaker 1: And the diesel tax is even worse.

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Speaker 4: A diesel tax is even worse. It's almost sixty cents

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Speaker 4: by next year, just diesel tax. So that doesn't talk

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Speaker 4: about any other taxes. That's why California gasoline per gallon

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I found six I looked up.

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Speaker 2: I know we're more expensive in Hawaii by a lot,

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Speaker 2: by about sixty cents, but went I went through the states.

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Speaker 2: If you go to the Triple A and just like

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Speaker 2: roughly two full dollars or more cheaper than California's base price.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah. And that's the thing is that California, we

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Speaker 4: continue this direction and we don't call out these resources

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Speaker 4: about these price increases that they don't want us to

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Speaker 4: know because they somehow think that it's actually working. Their

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Speaker 4: goal is to force everybody in California to buy an EV.

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Speaker 4: Which fine, you want to force us buy an EV.

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Speaker 4: But you know what is horrible, John, is that if

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Speaker 4: everybody in California today has an EV, and if we

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Speaker 4: all went home today and pump gass and charge our cars,

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Speaker 4: we plug it in, we would shut down the entire

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Speaker 2: Right, So, I mean the system we're not even ready

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Speaker 2: for it. No, No, the system has not been built yet.

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Speaker 2: We don't have an electrical grid for it, we don't

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Speaker 2: the EV's not good. They're really expensive, and the market

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Speaker 2: for them is cratering. I mean, much of the rest

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Speaker 2: of the country is off that bandwagon. And here we're

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Speaker 2: stuck with this ridiculous mandate and we're stuck with with

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Speaker 2: and they're they're penalizing us on purpose to try to force.

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Speaker 1: Us into an electric vehicle.

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Speaker 2: And it's infuriating, and I don't understand why the public

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Speaker 2: lies and claims it's the oil companies gouging us. So

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Speaker 2: they only gouge drivers in California. You cross the Arizona border,

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Speaker 2: they don't want to gouge anybody there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so stupid.

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Speaker 4: Yep, it's not. It's not the oil company the extra

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Speaker 4: additional taxes and all the regulations in California. It's not working.

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Speaker 4: We need something else. And the consequences of trying to

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Speaker 4: go one hundred percent ev we don't even we don't

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Speaker 4: have infrastructure ready for it. So it fogles my mind

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Speaker 4: as well. We need we need the public. We need

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Speaker 4: them to get their voices out and scream a hard

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Speaker 4: join me and let's tell them enough is enough, tell

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Speaker 4: us what the price is increased is going to be,

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Speaker 4: and be transparent about it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we put this on Twitter, So you want

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Speaker 2: to go to the John coblt Show Twitter feed and

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Speaker 2: you will see this questionnaire and it'll be self explanatory

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Speaker 2: what to do? Yes, okay, and then we can start

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Speaker 2: putting putting pressure here on carb and the legislature because

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Speaker 2: this is this is really the unemployment rate we just

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Speaker 2: were talking about this last hour, highest in the country

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Speaker 2: California is an unemployment rate, and the inflation rate is

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Speaker 2: very high. This is going to cause more unemployment and

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Speaker 2: more inflation because every single product that gets delivered by

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Speaker 2: a truck, it's going to cost more to deliver it,

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Speaker 2: so it'll cost more when you purchase it.

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Speaker 1: And nobody else is doing this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Meantime, mister Greenhouse Gases is taking a private jet to

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Speaker 2: the Vatican to complain about climate change.

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Speaker 1: I mean, spending the week in Italy.

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Speaker 2: Carpet about how how how we we fouled the atmosphere.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's so infuriating. I don't know when the

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Speaker 2: world wakes up to this, to this bozo. All right, Janet,

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Speaker 2: thanks for coming on with.

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Speaker 4: Us, Thank you for having me John, And.

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Speaker 2: Go to the Twitter feed and you'll see, uh what

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Speaker 2: Janet when is talking about.

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Speaker 1: They're looking for some support.

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Speaker 2: It's just a it's just a quick questionnaire demands that

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Speaker 2: Janet is making of the California Air Resources Board, which

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Speaker 2: is this Soviet style UH commission that we never voted for.

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Speaker 2: We don't vote for the members. The governor UH appoints

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Speaker 2: these people. And it's completely nuts. It's a it's a

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Speaker 2: it's a dollar extra of a gas tax, and UH,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're there's to be there's going to be

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Speaker 2: pushback and there's going to be propaganda. But this is

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Speaker 2: not something anybody should have to pay for. The cost

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Speaker 2: of living is high enough in California. We don't need

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Speaker 2: another dollar a gallon that's twenty dollars a tank that's

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Speaker 2: one thousand dollars a year. You got one thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: just to pay some goofy gas tax. Because because they

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Speaker 2: have this obsession with electric vehicles, the government should never

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Speaker 2: be involved in something like this. If a manufacturer has

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Speaker 2: an electric vehicle and the public wants it, then the

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Speaker 2: public can buy it. But you have to have the

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Speaker 2: charging stations, you have to have the arrange, you have

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Speaker 2: to have a demand for it. Even demand demand for

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Speaker 2: Tesla's are out creating in California.

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Speaker 2: now with that Alex and Daisy Dela Rosa. They are

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Speaker 2: start filling potholes because I guess the Compton government, like

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Speaker 2: guess the guys in the pothole yard are I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but they're not filling the potholes. And so Daisy Dela

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Speaker 2: Rosa and Alex were filling their own. So you think

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Speaker 2: that would embarrass the city. And they'd say, geez, we're sorry, guys,

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Speaker 2: stay home, we'll take care of it. We'll do it ourselves.

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Speaker 2: We'll reimburse you for your trouble. No, they get a

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Speaker 2: lawyer to write a cease and desist letter, a ceased

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Speaker 2: desist letter because the Dela Rosas are trying to fill

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Speaker 2: don't get wrecked. Well, we're going to talk to Daisy

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Speaker 2: Dealer Rossa now to tell us the story. Daisy, how

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Speaker 2: are you? You're on ky? I'm good. I love this story.

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Speaker 1: So tell me.

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Speaker 2: I guess you and your husband have driven to a

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Speaker 2: lot of damaging potholes lately.

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Speaker 6: Huh oh yeah, if five, you would only know we

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Speaker 6: have approximately from fifteen to twenty thousand dollars and just

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Speaker 6: repairs in the last five years or so that we've

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Speaker 6: been independent contractors and working as four years within the city.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Your your job is to deliver things, so you're on

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Speaker 2: the road all day and your vehicles hit a lot

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Speaker 2: of potholes.

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Speaker 6: Correct. We actually worked seven days a week, so you know,

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Speaker 6: it's a big toll on our car.

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Speaker 1: And how much money have you spent on repairs so far?

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Speaker 6: On one far, we have from fifteen to twenty thousand dollars?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? So what is it?

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Speaker 2: Your your wheel alignments, your tires, the axle, what's what's

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Speaker 2: the damage?

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Speaker 6: Actual suspensions, wheels, the bad joint, water mounts. One time

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Speaker 6: we fell like really really hard, was really deep and

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Speaker 6: it posed a radiator, so we had to change the radiator.

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Speaker 1: And this is from the rough roads.

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Speaker 2: That's that's amazing, all right, So what kind of pothole

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Speaker 6: Well, we went a honey at first. We he looked

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Speaker 6: And to this day, after all their brains, they're they're

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Speaker 1: And your asphalt patches are holding right.

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Speaker 6: Yes, there are very very strong.

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Speaker 1: So you went where did you go to buy bags

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Speaker 2: Bag of asphalt and shovel and uh, and you have

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Speaker 1: So uh.

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Speaker 2: The city of Compton. They didn't thank you for doing

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Speaker 2: all this work. They didn't apologize for having to make

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Speaker 6: We got a season assist letter.

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Speaker 1: And was it Did they threaten you?

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Speaker 6: Well, that's what practically the whole letter was. It's either

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Speaker 6: apparently we're violating city codes or something. Yeah, okay, you're liable.

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Speaker 6: Then when I fixed on yourself and in that case,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so you have ten thousand dollars worth of

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Speaker 1: But they're threatening you with a lawsuit, right, you know.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not asking them for anything. We're not asking

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Speaker 6: well we've been having all the support.

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Speaker 2: From oh oh, you've had you've had other people in

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Speaker 6: I there's people who two people who actually came out

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Speaker 1: The This is what we have to do.

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Speaker 2: We have to do our own street repair because the

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Speaker 2: are we supposed to do? Just blow another other? You know,

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Speaker 1: The car repaired. I mean they make they make it

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Speaker 2: They have bags of asphalt, they have shovels, they have vehicles.

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Speaker 2: They could do this, they choose not to. They're lazy,

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Speaker 6: Yes, exactly what we're saying. And the thing is that recently,

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Speaker 4: Just flatten it out.

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Speaker 6: Eventually, they don't, they don't use the correct technique for

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Speaker 6: them to last. How are ours lasting on after three

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you do better pothole patching than the Compton

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Speaker 2: Public Works Department. I'm looking up online public Works street maintenance.

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Speaker 2: The Street Maintenance Division mission is responsible for the maintenance

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Speaker 1: Sidewalks and streets. So that's their mission, and they don't

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Speaker 6: And if you see them, like if you were actually

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, but they're supposed to be working, right, they're.

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Speaker 4: Supposed to taking.

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Speaker 6: Care of our cities. But we're doing wrong because we're

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Speaker 6: doing this on top of our job, on top of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're sleeping with their feed up. They parked

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Speaker 2: a nasty lawyer letter. But they ought to be ashamed

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Speaker 2: of themselves. I'm telling you. Government workers are just so

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Speaker 2: at all. Hey, I noticed on the street maintenance page,

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Speaker 2: I don't see any names here. I don't see the

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Speaker 6: I believe it's the city council or the city manager.

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Speaker 3: I believe that that's you.

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Speaker 1: See who the city manager is here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And he was the most upset because on the

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Speaker 6: he was really upset. How we I already talked to

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Speaker 6: because we never received anything. Oh in their lines for

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Speaker 6: we have never.

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Speaker 3: Received the call.

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Speaker 6: I can't believe those first as yourself or news station,

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Speaker 6: the La Times, like all these newspapers universities are getting

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Speaker 6: the handle us directly to our cell phone, but the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Willie Hopkins is his name? Willie Hopkins. All right,

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Speaker 2: I've got to go. We got to do the news.

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Speaker 2: Daisy Dela Rosa. Congratulations for all the good work you're doing.

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Speaker 2: All right, and if you have any more to the story,

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Speaker 6: All right, that's great, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to look up this Willie Hopkins, the

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI Am sixty.

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Speaker 2: We're on from one until four, after four o'clock. You

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Speaker 2: miss something happens, well we have a makeup. We have

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Speaker 2: a makeup clatch after four o'clock gets posted on the

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Speaker 2: iheartab Cobelt's show on demand.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know the story.

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Speaker 2: Jackie Lacy was the La County DA for eight years

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Speaker 2: and she was really good, and then George Gascone in

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Speaker 2: that ridiculous, stupid year twenty twenty beat her. She was

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Speaker 2: running for a third term and Gascone just unleashed all

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Speaker 2: think things are coming crashing down on him. Now, Nathan

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Speaker 2: Hakman is running a strong campaign against him, and today

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Speaker 2: Hawkman received the endorsement of Jackie Lazy, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's a really powerful endorsement and.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Jackie on now. Jackie Lazy, welcome. How

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Speaker 1: are you well.

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Speaker 3: It's good to hear your voice. I'm doing fine. How

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Speaker 2: No, it's really good to have you on because you've

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Speaker 2: been very quiet the last few years while Gascone has

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Speaker 2: been dismantling the justice system, and I often wondered what

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Speaker 1: So now I've got you. What have you.

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Speaker 2: What's been going through your mind the last four years

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Speaker 2: watching him do his thing.

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Speaker 3: You know, when I left office, of course I lost,

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Speaker 3: I'm done with politics. Them out. I'm gonna keep my

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Speaker 3: mouth shut. This is what you want, this is what

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Speaker 3: you get, and enjoy my private life. But you know,

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Speaker 3: unfortunately I suffered tragedy, lost my husband to pancreatic cancer,

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Speaker 3: I've just been sitting there and and I I see

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Speaker 3: I know it's wrong. I know that. You know, some

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Speaker 3: because I did that job. You know, I did that

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Speaker 3: I'm going to speak my mind.

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Speaker 2: What do you think happened in twenty twenty, Because it

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Speaker 2: never occurred to me that year that you would lose,

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Speaker 1: Down, and.

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Speaker 2: You know, nothing out of the ordinary, I guess, is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, look I almost went. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: I think twenty twenty it was a convergence of things.

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Speaker 3: them with the gun. They use that politically. I do

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Speaker 2: Seems like they created some kind of hysteria. I mean

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Speaker 1: Yea many people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. You know, remember COVID had happened, and

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Speaker 3: They the murder of George Floyd was was shocking as

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Speaker 3: just just sort of wanted change without realizing the change

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Speaker 2: Was there things you wish you had done differently in

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Speaker 2: the campaign?

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Speaker 3: No, I felt like I thought as hard as I could.

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Speaker 3: You know, of course I go back over into my

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Speaker 3: mind and think, were they're different things? But I think

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Speaker 3: it was just the circumstances. I think, you know, with

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Speaker 3: fate in some sense, in some sense, While I'm sad

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Speaker 3: about what happened to our safety in La County. It

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Speaker 3: was a blessing in disguise because I got to spend

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Speaker 3: what what I didn't know would be a year with

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Speaker 3: my husban been before he was diagnosed with pancratic cancer.

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Speaker 3: So I'm grateful that I had that year at home

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Speaker 3: with him because I would have been working, and quite frankly,

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Speaker 3: when he got diagnosed, I would have had to resign

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Speaker 3: from the office. But no, I mean in campaigns it's

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Speaker 3: you know, it's like that Star Wars scene where Luke

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Speaker 3: Skywalker is blindfolded with a saber sword and trying to fight,

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Speaker 3: you know, this this thing that is larger than he is,

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Speaker 3: and trying to rely on his instinct. It was difficult,

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Speaker 3: but I did my best. I tried to explain to

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Speaker 3: people what electing this particular person was going to do

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Speaker 3: to their safety, and said it out loud many many times,

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Speaker 3: and people, just the majority of people felt that, you know,

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Speaker 3: then maybe I was crying wolf and that you know,

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Speaker 3: they want to change.

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Speaker 2: Has anybody come up to you since then, after seeing

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Speaker 2: what that kind of havoc that the guests going is

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Speaker 2: r on Ella County and said, Jackie, you were right

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, actually more than more than you would imagine.

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Speaker 3: I even had a protester come back to me. A

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Speaker 3: guy was part of the protests. If I I'll come

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Speaker 3: back to being apologized and say I just didn't know.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize what was going on. Yeah, no, it's out.

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Speaker 3: I really serious, it was out. I'm out hanging my

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Speaker 3: Christmas light, minding my own business with my handyman. And

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Speaker 3: guy with purple hair, you know, comes over, a young guy.

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Speaker 3: Young man says, you know, are you Jackie Legs? You know?

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Speaker 3: Of course I'm just like, well, who wants to know?

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Speaker 3: And yeah, but no, I do get that. I get

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Speaker 3: that from my neighbors. I get in Granada Hills. You know,

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Speaker 3: we're we're seeing a rise in crime here. We're all

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Speaker 3: scared about what's happening. And yeah, occasionally I get that

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Speaker 3: from people and that and that's why when I look,

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Speaker 3: when I when I endorse Nathan Hawkman, I said, look,

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Speaker 3: if you vote for me, vote for Nathan Hawkman. Or

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Speaker 3: if you, in hindsight now realize you should have voted

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Speaker 3: for me, vote for Nathan Hawkman. You know he's not

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Speaker 3: a tough on crime guy. He is compassionate, he's fair,

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Speaker 3: but it's up to the prosecutor to discourage criminal activity.

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Speaker 3: And if you have someone who's sort of weak at that,

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Speaker 3: of course the criminals are going to be embold of course,

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Speaker 3: of course they're going to say, wait a minute, I

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Speaker 3: mean I can get away with all this. Then of

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Speaker 3: course they're going to go out and commit crime.

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Speaker 1: So can you hang on for another segment?

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Speaker 2: Sure, I'll talk more specifically about what you really like

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Speaker 2: about Nathan Hockman and what the worst mistakes you think

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Speaker 2: Gascone has made are the worst parts of his policy.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we got Jackie Lacy.

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Speaker 2: She was a great DA for La County for eight

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Speaker 2: years from twenty twelve to twenty twenty, lost to Gascon

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Speaker 2: in that year, and now Hawkman is taking young Gascon

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Speaker 2: and Jackie Lacy went public with her endorsement.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 2: We continue with Jackie Lacey, former La County DA for

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Speaker 2: eight years from twenty twelve to twenty twenty. She's lost

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Speaker 2: to Gascone that year, and now she's back in the

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Speaker 2: public eye endorsing Nathan Hackman today against Gascone in November.

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Speaker 2: So what do you like about Nathan Hockman because you

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Speaker 2: were you.

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Speaker 1: Well, go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I want people to know that this is just

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Speaker 3: not some politician. I've known him personally for over a decade.

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Speaker 3: It's been with his family at events. I've talked to

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Speaker 3: him in depth, so I know I know the guy.

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Speaker 3: What I like about Nathan is, first of all, I

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Speaker 3: like the fact, among anythings that you know, he's tried

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Speaker 3: over one hundred cases the current administration that you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean gas Colin had never been to court, never

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Speaker 3: tried a case. And I think when you're making decisions

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Speaker 3: about some of the high profile cases and trying not

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00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: to make mistakes, it's important for you to know how

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00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,239
Speaker 3: the facts are going to play out in the you know,

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Speaker 3: in the courtroom. I also like John that he was

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Speaker 3: president of the City of Los Angeles Ethics Commission. I mean,

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Speaker 3: not a day, not a week goes why where you

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Speaker 3: probably aren't reporting on someone violating ethics, someone fealing, someone lying,

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Speaker 3: someone doing something they shouldn't be doing. And I like

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Speaker 3: the fact that he knows those laws well, he's going

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Speaker 3: to follow them. And also like the fact that while

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Speaker 3: he understands that with certain criminal behavior, you've got to

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Speaker 3: meet it head on and be stern about it. But

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Speaker 3: he also understands that criminal justice reform has to be executed,

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Speaker 3: but it has to be done in a very thoughtful

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Speaker 3: and meaningful manner.

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Speaker 2: People don't know what that means, that that phrase criminal

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Speaker 2: justice reform. You had Gascon's version of it, which has

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Speaker 2: been a disaster, and so people get leery when they

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Speaker 2: hear the phrase.

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: You're going to let everybody out and they're going to

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Speaker 2: run amock what would be I mean, what do you

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Speaker 2: think Nathan Hockman is talking about or what are you

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Speaker 2: personally talking about when you use that phrase?

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Speaker 3: You know, what I'm talking about is addressing people who

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Speaker 3: have a mental health concern. You're actually you're right on

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Speaker 3: the money when people say they don't know what criminal

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Speaker 3: justice reform is. But the truth of the matter is

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Speaker 3: is in the LA Office, we've been doing criminal justice

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Speaker 3: reform for years or twenty thirty years, in the sense

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Speaker 3: of drug courts where instead of sending someone to jail,

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Speaker 3: you say, look, go to these classes and we'll dismiss

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Speaker 3: the case after that, you know, sort of leveraging them

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Speaker 3: into support or looking at things like those who are

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Speaker 3: wrongfully convicted, should we give them an avenue to have

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Speaker 3: their case reviewed? In short, it's about improving or changing,

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Speaker 3: if you will, changing the criminal justice system. But when

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00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: it's not done right, the change could be disasters. It

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00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: can harm us, and that's what you're seeing now. But

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00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: if it's done well, you see success stories without people

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Speaker 3: getting hurt by folks who just aren't ready to be

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Speaker 3: out in our society for one reason or another. Uh.

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Speaker 3: And so really, I think that's the best way to

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Speaker 3: look at it. It's changing it, and it's supposed to

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Speaker 3: be changing it for the better, not the worst, if

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Speaker 3: it's done right.

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Speaker 2: What are a couple of things that Gascone did that

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Speaker 2: really either scared you, made you just shake your head,

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Speaker 2: made you angry? Were what were some of the policies

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Speaker 2: that you just couldn't believe.

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Speaker 3: I was stunned on the first day when he ordered

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Speaker 3: UH prosecutors to no longer attend me parole hearings. I

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Speaker 3: thought that was wrong. His rationale was, it wasn't our job.

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Speaker 3: And so you have now victims or victims families who

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Speaker 3: have to go into prison and faith be in the

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Speaker 3: same room with the person who either killed their killed

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Speaker 3: their loved ones, or who violated them and argue against

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Speaker 3: the lies that prisoners sometimes put forth about what happened

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Speaker 3: and their crime and their rehabilitation. There is no one

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Speaker 3: else other than if they hire use their own money

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Speaker 3: to hire a private lawyer that will be in there

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Speaker 3: with them. I thought that was the worst. I also thought,

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Speaker 3: you know, wholesale getting away doing away with gun enhancements

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Speaker 3: in La County, doing away with gang enhancements in La County,

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Speaker 3: you know, doing away with hate crime enhancements. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's finally walked that back, but it's only with the

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Speaker 3: hate crime. Somebody had to the protest against him, and

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Speaker 3: then he walked that back. I think that was egregious.

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Speaker 3: But I also think there's stuff that you wouldn't know

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Speaker 3: about unless you really follow the board of supervisors. Hear

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Speaker 3: the millions that this person has cost us in taxpayer

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Speaker 3: money that could have been used on things like the

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Speaker 3: homeless crisis. This administration is burning through money left and

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Speaker 3: right because of costly mistakes. Well example is they filed

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Speaker 3: the case on someone who had to do with voter

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Speaker 3: fraud some company, and that company that person owned the

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Speaker 3: company sued them and the board ended up giving them

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Speaker 3: five million dollars to someone. You know, there's such thing

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Speaker 3: as prosecutoral immunity, so that means they must have screwed

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Speaker 3: that case up so bad that the board ran scared

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Speaker 3: gave them five million dollars. The other thing is employees

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Speaker 3: who have sued civil servants that he has, you know,

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Speaker 3: that he has crapt over because they dared to speak

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Speaker 3: the truth to the king, so to speak. And that

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Speaker 3: you know, that's that's taxpayer money. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: only a couple of them now have been litigated, and

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Speaker 3: he's lost them. He's lost one and he's settled one,

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Speaker 3: and then he lost the other one a one point

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Speaker 3: five dollars. There's about a dozen more left on top

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Speaker 3: of that. With this recent charging of Diana Taran, one

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Speaker 3: of his top people in the office, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 3: surprised if those officers end up suing the office for

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Speaker 3: failure to stop or catch or manage this woman who

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Speaker 3: broke the law using their names. So you know, uh,

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Speaker 3: there's a myriad of reasons. Maybe money is your issue,

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Speaker 3: maybe you know, maybe you feel safe. I'm not sure,

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Speaker 3: but you talk to people in Granada Hills. We're not

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Speaker 3: feeling safe. We're feeling like looking things are are are

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Speaker 3: are dangerous, no more dangerous than there were four years ago.

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Speaker 3: We don't have to go back to any tough on

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Speaker 3: crime policies, but you know what, the cost of crime,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's a cost of crime is too great

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 1: Jackie is out of control. It's really good talking with you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Tom.

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Speaker 1: I hope we can talk again sometime.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jackie Lacy who was the DA for eight

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Speaker 2: years here in La County, and she's endorsing Nathan Hockman

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Speaker 2: against Gascon in November. Debra Mark live in the CAFI

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Speaker 2: twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the

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Speaker 2: John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the show

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