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Speaker 1: with that, back on the podcast for the first time

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Speaker 1: in a really long time, and I'm excited to hear

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Speaker 1: what you're up to. Is Tonto Chris Farranto. You guys

455
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Speaker 1: all know him from you know, the book Thirteen Hours

456
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: and the portrayal of him in Thirteen Hours and former

457
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Speaker 1: Army ranger, former contractor. But the latest project that you're

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Speaker 1: hosting is War Heroes, which is a new military documentary

459
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Speaker 1: series spotlighting individual service members and their unique lives service

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Speaker 1: and sacrifice. We'll get into that, but I think just

461
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Speaker 1: first and foremost, this audience might be wondering what you're

462
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: up to, because I feel like you you went like

463
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: on a rampage with media stuff. You have to do

464
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: so much in such a short period of time, and

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00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: then you kind of, uh, you know, it took a

466
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Speaker 1: long break from it, well deserved break from for a while.

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Speaker 1: It seems like, yeah, well, you know, to be honest, further,

468
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: you kind of get into that it is. It's a vapid,

469
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: insecure environment. When you get into the public figure world,

470
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: you do and and either can can accept it and

471
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Speaker 1: buy into it, and I'll be honest, I become shallow

472
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: or you can remember who you are and back away

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Speaker 1: from it. And it's it's not easy to do too,

474
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: It really isn't. It's it's almost like you get you

475
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: get addicted to a drug and you do like and

476
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Speaker 1: I've never been addicted to cocaine or things that I

477
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: don't want to compare it to that, but you do

478
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: get addicted to to that spotlight and the people telling

479
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Speaker 1: you the things that they want you to hear, and

480
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Speaker 1: and some people like that, and we would like to

481
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Speaker 1: stay in there. I didn't. I don't. So I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, heal with this, I'm gone, I'm out.

483
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: And I needed to get away from some really really

484
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Speaker 1: bad people that I've surrounded myself with. Um particularly there's

485
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Speaker 1: a couple of couple of extra girlfriends that were really

486
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Speaker 1: weren't there with me because they wanted to be with me.

487
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: They wanted to be with me because and you know, whatever,

488
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: you you get offended because I'm saying it, well, you

489
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: know it's Tonnel. So I'm gonna say what I want

490
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: to say if you want, but you know, you get

491
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Speaker 1: away from because they want you there because they want

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Speaker 1: not because they love you, even though they're gonna say

493
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: they do, not, because they really want to be part

494
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Speaker 1: of your life and experience you with it. They want

495
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Speaker 1: you there because you can help them, or you can

496
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: help them financially. Can and I and that was me.

497
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: I got wrapped up in some very bad in some

498
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: very bad situations, and the only way that you can

499
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: get out of it is. You got to look at

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00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: yourself and you look in the mirror and go, okay,

501
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: wait a second, who's this guy I'm looking at? Is

502
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Speaker 1: this somebody I want to see every morning for the

503
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: rest of my life? This this person who is no

504
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Speaker 1: longer Chris, is no longer Tonto, is no longer that

505
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Speaker 1: contractor that ranger. It's somebody that's looking to get more attention,

506
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: whether social media or whatnot and be and be basically

507
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 1: a weaker person or do am I going to just

508
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: excuse my language, but ship can all that and go

509
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: ahead and be that person again that I that I

510
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: once was, even though I'm gonna have to pretty much

511
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: just nuke the last three years of my life well

512
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: and return back. And that's what I did. That's uh,

513
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: that's great that you had that kind of foresight, though,

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00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: I mean, now that you're you're in you've been in

515
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: that position. Can you see how like other celebrities, people

516
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: who are famous, like how they have these incredible rises

517
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: and then these incredible falls like is that something like

518
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: you can see how that could happen? Now? Yeah, So,

519
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: my gosh, that's what I saw. And and the problem

520
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: is those incredible falls once you have those incredible falls.

521
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: You still are stuck in that public figure life, but

522
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: now it's now you're kind of like a reacher in yard.

523
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: You're kind of like a retreat and now you're trying

524
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: to get back. I'm trying to get back to that

525
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: spot I was before and and you're never going to

526
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: get there, and then you again you lose yourself and

527
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: that's not me and homs I don't care about the spotlight.

528
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: It was easy for me to sit back and just

529
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: nuke and just get rid of all that social media

530
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: for that two month period where you know whatever, I

531
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: had a half a million followers or a big, big

532
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: freaking deal. But that's a big deal in today's society,

533
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: all those followers, who's looking at all your stuff? And

534
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: it was, no, I don't want to be that person.

535
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm not Tono anymore. And Tana was not Tono when

536
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: thirteen Hours came out, Tono was and I was Tono

537
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: when I was a contractor. That was tannas So when

538
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: I speak of myself as Tono, I don't speak of

539
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: myself as that thirteen hours public figure. It was that

540
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: guy that was going down range of working. That was

541
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: Tono and I lost that and honest, I'll be honest.

542
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: What I did is I watched Thirteen Hours and I

543
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: watched Pablo portraying me in the movie, and I looked

544
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: at that, I'm like, holy crap, what happened to that

545
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: person that that used to deploy all the time? What

546
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: happened to that guy? And I just made a decision

547
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: and and I've really pretty much just cut everybody out

548
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: of my life because I knew the ones that really

549
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: cared they were going to be there regardless. And I

550
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: knew the ones that didn't care they were going to

551
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 1: leak and be gone because they were using me. And

552
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: that's what happened. And it's great. I'm back to that

553
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: little smaller inner circle and I like good people like

554
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: Ian here, he's hit me up, Hey, what you're doing now?

555
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: I know NaN's got my back on the show. But

556
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: I've known you for a while now. It's it's crazy

557
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: to think, but it's probably been a good five or

558
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: so years. And I thought you were cool guys since

559
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: I met you. I mean at the height of the popularity.

560
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: I I thought it was pretty cool that there was

561
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: one time where I could not go to the gym

562
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: without seeing a TV with you advertising those sunglasses. It

563
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: was every two seconds those things and people out there,

564
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: you can do all you want. Those are the ones

565
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: I work, the range people like. Are those for real?

566
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: We'll go look at every battle line picture, every range

567
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: picture I've been in. I'm wearing those sunglasses. They work, guys,

568
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: they work, and broughtle line is if I lose twenty

569
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: dollar sunglasses, I'm not pissed when I used to lose

570
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: my hundred. That makes sense, were sitting. But they're awesome

571
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: and they work and they work well. So I don't

572
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: rep anything that I don't use, whether it's five bucks

573
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: or whether it's bucks. I use everything that I rep,

574
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: and I'll always do that because if you don't, you're

575
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: you're labeled as a sellout, and you and you really

576
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: are if you and I won't, I don't do that.

577
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: And I don't care if it's locally or not. If

578
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: they work, they work, man, I don't know Walmart specials,

579
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: and that's what those those things are. But well, I

580
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: tell you what, I should have took a nickel for

581
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: every one of those those things sold. I'd be a

582
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: ghoes billionaire. Right, you're killing it. Still still out there

583
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 1: and the people hating on that too. I mean, who

584
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't take you know, honestly probably I assume a nice

585
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 1: paycheck to do an ad and you know, get your

586
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: face out there. And also then people go to your

587
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: Instagram and then see like the charitable work that you're

588
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: promoting and and things like this show that are doing

589
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: good things in the community. I mean it has like

590
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: a positive effect. It does, and you know, you say

591
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: some of those things for all all all disclosure out there,

592
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: I did it because it was an experience. I always

593
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: did everything in my life to experience it. I did it,

594
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: Like you know what, I wonder when I die on

595
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: my deathbed, I don't want to look back at my

596
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: life and go, you know what, I didn't try that. Gosh,

597
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: I wish I would have tried that. Gosh, I wish

598
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: I would have tried that. I want to go back

599
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: and you know what I did that it went out

600
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: great or I did that. God, that wasn't a really

601
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: smart idea to do, but I did it anyway, and

602
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: at least I can say, you know what, I tried it.

603
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: The worst thing to do is sit around and and

604
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: think so highly of yourself. Oh, what are people going

605
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: to think of me if they see me on TV

606
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,959
Speaker 1: the sunglasses. You know what, I don't give two crops

607
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: what you think of me. I did that. That was fun.

608
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: I and they were so nice. The Idea Village people,

609
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, they're the ones that do the copperfit the shavers.

610
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: They're that group. That's them, that's that big group. And

611
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the opportunity to work with

612
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: these guys. Started with the Blue Blockers. Remember the Blue Blockers.

613
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: Who remembers those? That was this group, that's what they

614
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: started computer Blue Blockers. And be like, oh my gosh,

615
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: I got to work with these people, have fun. And

616
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: it was in the desert. It was it was a blast.

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00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: I had had a great time. And I did a

618
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: copper fit commercial for him too that should be coming

619
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: out here shortly too. Um. So you know, it's it's

620
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: an experience. And I will always tell people out there,

621
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: get over yourself, man, get over your bravado and all

622
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: this machismo. If you want to try, go do it

623
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: and don't give a crap what other people think about you.

624
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: If you're going to do it, do it, and then

625
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: you can say, you know what, at least I gave

626
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: it I act I have to agree with you there

627
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: in the sense that you know, I was having lunch

628
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: with a friend of mine who's paramilitary contractor the other

629
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,959
Speaker 1: day and uh, we're talking about this subject came up

630
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know a lot of the

631
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: people who are like like our guys who know other

632
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: veterans who are like naysayers and stuff. They're like some

633
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: dude who used their military career as a Ranger to

634
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: get a job as a contractor at like Socks Scent

635
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: or Centcom or something like that. And then they're turning

636
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: around and they're like chastising guys because they open a

637
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: cross fit gym or they're selling like a Ranger coffee mug,

638
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: and it's like, man, who the hell are you to

639
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: to criticize some kid making Ranger T shirts? And you know, why,

640
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: why would you? If you know, maybe you should have

641
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: thought of that the other then then you wouldn't have

642
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: to go contracting or but maybe that was his choice

643
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: or her choice. And you know, I make fun, don't

644
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: give it. I believe you guys know med Ian and Jack,

645
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: you know me in the Ranger and the Ranger way

646
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: of doing things about way we make fun of everything.

647
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: We don't care if you delta, we don't care if

648
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: you we don't care if you work at nine to five.

649
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna make fun and we expect to get ripped

650
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: back to But you know, and that's that's okay. But

651
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: in the bottom line is if that's your choice and

652
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: that's what you want to do, then more power to you.

653
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: Go go do it. Just if you're gonna do it,

654
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: give a hundred ten percent, do whatever you do. That's

655
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: that's what I admired about. The actors that were I

656
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: always willing into the movie. My gosh, these actors. I

657
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with these guys that are gonna

658
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: be pretentious. They're gonna be just the liberal. None of them,

659
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: at least in our shop on our movie were were

660
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: they all gave a hundred ten percent And were their

661
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: politics the same as mine? No, they've in fact, very

662
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: few of them were, aside from Max Martine even Pablo

663
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: and Ice politics, So don't mesh. But they gave a

664
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Speaker 1: hundred teen percent and they worked hard at their craft

665
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: and they put everything they put into it, and you

666
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: know what, politics, I could give a crap. That's what

667
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: I admire. So if these guys are going out there

668
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: and doing a cross bit GM. I'm not a big

669
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: cross bidder. You know. I do make fun of guys

670
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: that were the rogue T shirts like I do that

671
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: guy do Guys in Omahao either were you were a

672
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: roque T shirt driving F one fIF didn't have those

673
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: flat brand casts and they were a G Shop watch

674
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: my Halo operas the Shop watches. Even though you'll never

675
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: do a Halo opera ever, go ahead and do any

676
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: scoot bos, but you're gonna wear that G Shop watch anyway.

677
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: I'll make fun of you. But if you're putting your

678
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: heart and soul into what you're doing, and you're giving

679
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: a hunter pretty camp percent and you're being honorable and

680
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: you have values, yeah yeah, I'll support you. I will.

681
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: I will back you up there. I'm still gonna make

682
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: funny a little bit. It's just how I am speaking

683
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: of of making fun of stuff. What what what magazine

684
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: was it that you were on the cover shirt list?

685
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: Because I remember, dude, you're saying that because you know

686
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: I was sexy on that man? Yeah, you know it's

687
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: because you know what's funny? I remember, well, our mutual

688
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: friend Will cow is breaking your ball is about it

689
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: on Twitter and like every female follower of Andrew because

690
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: because Andrew was like, all right, can you stop taking

691
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: your shirt off every two seconds? And then like every

692
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: female follower replied to that, Bread was like, no, Chris,

693
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: please keep your shirt off. Ballistic, great guy, part of

694
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: Athlon Outdoors, Ballistic Magazine and aid to all you all

695
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: you people, all you ladies out there too. I actually

696
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: and this is a good thing. This is where I

697
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: came around and won't let you know. I have reconciled

698
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: with my former ex wife, Tanya, the when I have

699
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: three kids with the one I married and they don't

700
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: write to Ranger School. Basically we've never had a honeymoon

701
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: because I mrried her and then went to Ranger School

702
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: the next week. She was the one I was in

703
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: with Benghazi and everything. But that being said, my body

704
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: is actually a lot nicer now that he was on

705
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: a ballistic magazine. I'm just not going to do my

706
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: own horn. I'm just I'm not trying to do that.

707
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: And I'm also almost forty eight years old, So there

708
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: you go. There's the ton of arrogance that finally has

709
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: come back. When you and when you first met me

710
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: and I lost that for three years. It's back in

711
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: with a vengeance. The arrogance a little bit. But if

712
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: you can back it up then it is it really

713
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: arrogant or is it confidence? You're the day you're the

714
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: David back on the tactical world. I love that, dude,

715
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: But my voice, at least, I don't. I don't talk

716
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: like that. Ye's a little bit better. Like I've been

717
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: stuck on helium for about five days. I see it.

718
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: I do kind of sound like that, don't I on

719
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: the on the radio, Yes, sir, I sound good man. Um. Anyway,

720
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: I want to get into what you're actually up to

721
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: right now, and you're I believe, in New Jersey. Oh no,

722
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: you're going to be in New Jersey in the next

723
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: few days. I mean by the time this is up,

724
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: you'll be in New Jersey. Because by the time this

725
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: is up tomorrow, which will be Thursday, February, you're going

726
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: to be in town for screening for your new show,

727
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: War Heroes, which, as I said earlier, it's a new

728
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: military documentary series. It's spotlights different guys who have served

729
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: in you know, unique ways, guys who are no longer

730
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: with us. UM in some aces you know the pilot

731
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: episode is going to focus on Sergeant Ryany Adults. He's

732
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: a new Jersey National Guard member, but he lost his

733
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: life in service in Baghdad in Iraq in two thousand four.

734
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: So the reason I found out about this was Jack

735
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: Thomas Smith, the creator of the series, reached out to

736
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: me and was pitching you to come on, and you know,

737
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: being that I know you, I was like, I don't

738
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: want to go through Chris as people. I mean just

739
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: text him and uh, you know You're like, yeah, come on, man.

740
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'd love to hear all about it because

741
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: it looks like a really positive show, you know, bringing

742
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: the spotlight to guys who have never had the spotlight

743
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: on them and puts a face to all these names

744
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: we hear about who have died in combat and or

745
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: or made it through combat. And I agree with you whoheartedly,

746
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: Jack's fantastic man. He's an awesome guy. And you are

747
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: to Jack, not not but Jack, but also Jack Murphy

748
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: as a great guy. But you know he just to

749
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: to want to do this and and to and to

750
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: go ahead and put another and there is it is

751
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: another documentary about about people are soldiers that sacrifice themselves

752
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: in the global war on terror, which they should. There

753
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: should never be enough of them, there should be always be.

754
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's too many, because there's not. But

755
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: what Jack did and what his is, why his is different.

756
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: Why I really loved this one and the one I'm

757
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: in uh and now because I'm in it because I

758
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: don't care if they put somebody else to do to

759
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: do the remaining shows or if they keep use them

760
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: or not. It makes no difference to me. If if

761
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: they don't, that's that's fine, because I want the show

762
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: to keep going regardless. Is they focused on the families,

763
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: So they're focusing on the gold Star family, and that

764
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: is something you don't see a whole bunch. Yes, you

765
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: see them honor the soldier, the Yerman, the semen, the sailor,

766
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: whoever passed away, because they should be their heroes, but

767
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't seem to come back and really

768
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: put the focus on the families and what they believe in,

769
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: what they thought, and what they've done, gone on and

770
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: done after they they've lost their loved ones. And that's

771
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: where this one is different because it does focus on

772
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: adults family and and miss adults as Indy she is.

773
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: She is so much stronger than I could ever dream

774
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: to be. And when I interviewed her, and I was

775
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: doing the interview and doing this pilot, I was at

776
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: a low point in my life that just talking here,

777
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, I thought I was strong.

778
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: This woman is ten times stronger than I ever could

779
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: dream to be. I need to help my game a

780
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: little bit. And and that's where I think people can

781
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: admire this, so they can see that what the families

782
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: going through continually for the rest of their lives, and

783
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: they have found out how way to put a positive

784
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: spin on it, and she even forgave the meat. I'll

785
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: let let people watch the series. But there was a

786
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: news Newsweek, which I don't have a good relationship with

787
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: them anyway. I don't think highly of Newsweek. But she

788
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: had an incident with Newsweek where where they did her wrong,

789
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: her her family wrong, and she forgave them and I

790
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: was there going, how could you do? This? Woman is

791
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: an angel. I need to be more like her. And

792
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: so it's just the wa people to see. It is

793
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: a series, but watching how the family members, how they

794
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: handle traumatic experiences in their life and how they continue

795
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: to drive on and how the adults family made something

796
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: positive on it. Those are like the real costs of war,

797
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: because I mean sadly that you know, the soldiers they're

798
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: they're gone, they feel no more pain. Well hopefully they're

799
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: in a happy or better place, but the family members

800
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: really have to live with the consequences and all the fallout.

801
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: Well said, No, you're well said, and that's that's what

802
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: this focus is more on the family and and uh,

803
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: but it is on also sergeant adults as well. Hi buddy,

804
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: we can record that. Hi buddy, if my threal. We

805
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: just want to get Sis, Sisty and Bubbo. Okay, all right,

806
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: he's good. He's good as you know for mommy. Wait,

807
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: he's good to go, my thur Real. I love that

808
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: little boy. All right, guys. No, that's that's awesome man.

809
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: And it's great that to see that you're still you know,

810
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: connecting with you know, these family members as you had

811
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: reconnected with your wife at the time and hanging out

812
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: with your kids. And well, it's important the family. Family first, Bride.

813
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: I've you know one thing, I don't want to put

814
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: this out there. I'm sorry you and I know we're

815
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: getting off, but there there was a local unit here,

816
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: that the local department here, that that I told told

817
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: A was telling recruits that the department comes first and

818
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: family comes second. And I tell you what, brother, I

819
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a disappointment. If you're and

820
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell guys out there, if you ever join

821
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: a unit or department or anything, and you go there

822
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: and you go at the academy and they tell you

823
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: that that department comes before family members, you walk your

824
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: butt right out of the room a rank of Italian

825
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: and I know jack as steals And not once was

826
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: I ever told that the family comes second before the

827
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: In fact, they made sure that the family was included

828
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: on everything, and that they knew that they were more

829
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: important than the unit itself. So I just want to

830
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: put that's my little I've got on my soapbox there.

831
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: I know that out there, and if your family life

832
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: is messed up, then your work life can't be straight.

833
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just empaceful here. You hit the nail

834
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: on the head. Brother, all right, we got up set,

835
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: just a little bit sorry about that. He is, I'm

836
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: all over the place. It honestly makes sense because, as

837
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: you said, I think that there is some connection there

838
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: because this series is honoring the family members of these

839
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: guys who died and in this case, for the pilot episode,

840
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: Sergeant Ryan Adults. Um, how did you get hooked up

841
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: with this show? How did Jack Thomas Smith reach out

842
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: to you? You know why? I had and you've met

843
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: her before. I had a former publicist. She's no longer.

844
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: We we've part of ways. Her name was Judy Um.

845
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: He reached out to her and asked. And that's how

846
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: it always is. You. People will come and they'll they'll

847
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: ask if I want to do something I don't. I

848
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: don't never look to be on TV. I never wanted

849
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: to put myself out there to be on TV. But

850
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: if somebody comes and approaches me, just like with the commercial,

851
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: Hey can we have Chris for this? Okay, well what

852
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: is it? And if it's something that sounds something that

853
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: I could is in my wheelhouse and I can. I

854
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: can think I can handle and portray well enough to

855
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: make the person happy, like like Mr Smith off say yes,

856
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: So that's all it was. Uh, You're not not. All

857
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: of us are out there trying to get gigs on

858
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: TV and commercials. In fact, if they come, they come.

859
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: If they don't, they don't. That's fine with me. And

860
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: and you know, I think it's God's way. God said, hey, Jack,

861
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: I brought Jack and said, hey, here's here's Jack Thomas Smith.

862
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: You want to do this, you want to do this

863
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 1: documentary and it will sounded like something that I could

864
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: honor another fall in fall in comrade, and so I

865
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 1: said yes. So it really it all to me, brother,

866
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: It's always just it's luck. It really arn't anything. It's

867
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: just just if stuff comes up, it comes up. If

868
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't, it doesn't. But when when you do it

869
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: that way, I think the stuff that you should do

870
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: usually is what comes up when you're going out there

871
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: and looking for things all the time. That's when you

872
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: start getting wrapped up in some in in in maybe

873
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: a bad situation which you don't want to be in,

874
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: which this one is not. This one was fantastic. And

875
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: Jack is He is an amazing patriot, amazing man and

876
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: such the greatest, most honorable man and uh in the

877
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: media community that I have ever met. And I've met

878
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 1: some slimeballs, believe me, and he is not one that man. Yeah, this,

879
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: this pilot needs to be picked up. It does just

880
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: for the sake of Jack. Will always do it right

881
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: and treat the fan members right and honor honor them correctly.

882
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Once again, for those listening, if you're in

883
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: the area, you know, in the New Jersey area, it's

884
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: gonna be this Thursday, So tomorrow because I'm putting this

885
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: up tomorrow, UM, you know, for those listening February, and

886
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: all the details are at War Heroes tv dot com.

887
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: There's also a meet and greet package so you can

888
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: purchase that hang with Chris um and you know what

889
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to with you. Actually I didn't

890
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: mention that that we talked about this, so I don't

891
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: I don't know your take, but I just kind of

892
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: wanted to hear your take if you have any UM.

893
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: A few episodes back, we had dal Com Stock on

894
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: to talk about his contracting situation UM in Yemen and

895
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: those details leaked, and then more recently we talked about

896
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: the situation that went on with the a V Seals

897
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: and Haiti getting arrested. The reason I want to ask

898
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: you about this, and you know, whatever your take is, UM,

899
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: is because you're the guy who's just known for contracting.

900
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people prior to thirteen hours

901
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: in America, were unfamiliar with what goes on in the

902
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: contracting world. And as far as I know, you're not

903
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: a guy who's worked for foreign governments and contracting. But

904
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear your opinion on you know,

905
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: Dall's situation or the Seals situation with Yemen Haiti. I mean,

906
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: it's been pretty controversial in both, you know. And I'll

907
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: put this out there. I have done and actually I

908
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: just did, or recently did an a kidnapping contract in

909
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: South America. I still go overseas a contract every once,

910
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: while I don't, I don't put that out there, um,

911
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: but it was for an American company of course in

912
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: American was was kidnapped in South America and I went

913
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: to help see if we could find him and also

914
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: offer some protection for his family. So so I still

915
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: do that as a private you know not and it's

916
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: not they're not government sanctioned contracts. So and I did

917
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: that quite a bit in between RS contracts as well.

918
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right, and I never never did anything

919
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 1: for foreign government, but I've done they have private organizations

920
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: in this country that handle things like that. Um. And uh,

921
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: that being said, when you go over these countries, you

922
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: know that you have no If you don't know, you should,

923
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: you have no top cover. If you get wrapped up

924
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: over there, You're going over there knowing that if a

925
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: local police or local military or anything happens to you

926
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: over there, you're over there just basically as a tourist

927
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: under the guys of under the guys of being a tourist,

928
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: and you're going to fall under their laws. So if

929
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: you're doing something shady over there, brother, you don't have

930
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: the state department cover anymore, you don't have the agency

931
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: cover anymore. You're you're gonna get wrapped up and you're

932
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: gonna get locked up because they know what's going on,

933
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: and most of the time the law enforcement in the

934
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: area are correct. So you don't have a good legal

935
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: system there. And you're American, and I guarantee that these

936
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: guys went over there with their big old beers and

937
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: and and still woking American as health as well. You can't.

938
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna stick out like a store thumb. So you don't, brother,

939
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: without second guessing what you know the Seals did over there,

940
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: what Chris did over there, what he was doing, I

941
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: I know I read the report, or what Constock was doing. Yeah,

942
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: because they're the only ones that can tell you the

943
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: truth of what was going on, what they're actually doing there,

944
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: what for. Just know that if if you're going over

945
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: there to do that mark role and something happens, you're stuck,

946
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: you're done, and don't don't come back and look for

947
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: the state department to come help you out. Um. And

948
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: I know that when I go over and do my

949
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: contract and I'm working for I am working for an

950
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: American government. I'm an American going I started American company. Uh. Now,

951
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: granted I'm not trying to move weapons or anything like that,

952
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that's what they were doing either.

953
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no idea. Um, But if

954
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: you're going over, just know as a contractor that you

955
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: do not have that backing and you better have that

956
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: your own escape and evade plan to get out of

957
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: that kind sure if you need to, because even if

958
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: you're doing over there doing the right thing, like my

959
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: just just to tell you a little bit, when I

960
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: do in the end of kidnapping stuff, sometimes the local

961
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: police are involved and you're over there doing surveillance on

962
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: the local police just as a civilian, as an American civilian.

963
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: All they have to is turn around and wrap you

964
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: up and thority in that local jail and guess what,

965
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: you ain't coming out. So just know that no, but

966
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: that that's also kind of the guy's like some contractors,

967
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: And why even kind of do it? You're you're witch

968
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: are up? You gotta you gotta work with your wits.

969
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: You don't have gun and sometimes you don't have guns.

970
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: And if you're carrying a long rifle in some of

971
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: these countries to be ready to be wrapped up, I

972
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: don't know how. I don't know what the seal over

973
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: thinking in Haiti, that's just I don't know, if you know,

974
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: carrying a long rifle out there is just you're just

975
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: asking to get wrapped up unless you're doing something that

976
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: has to do with long rifles and in the sale

977
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: of But again I don't know, and I don't want

978
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: to say they were because I have no idea. Actually,

979
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: I am friends with Chris, I know Brandon and have

980
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: have beef. I'm friends with both of them. I don't

981
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: get into the middle of that. But that being said, well,

982
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: I want to look at Chris go and when the

983
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: hell maybe if I ever see him and say, dude,

984
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: what were you thinking? But again, maybe maybe he was

985
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: doing something that he was supposed to be doing over there.

986
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, and maybe somebody just left him hanging.

987
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: But I know that if you do do these things

988
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: in these countries that you're not going effort into the

989
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: CIA or State Department d D and you're going on

990
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: your own. Just just be ready to have the tables

991
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: turn on you and the heartbeat and you may be

992
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: stuck over there for a while. Yeah, is it worth it?

993
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: There's really no protections at all. You're not you're not

994
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, you're not working under Title ten of the

995
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: US Code, you're not protected by the Geneva Conventions. And

996
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: American law stops at American borders, of course. So I

997
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: mean you're really out there flapping if if you get

998
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: in trouble. And I think that's what I was saying

999
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: on the last episode we recorded, is that you know,

1000
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: if you're a young veteran thinking about doing private security contracting,

1001
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: that's just something you've got to be really cautious about. Yeah,

1002
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: you really do. I I worked on one where I

1003
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: had a young Navy seal come over and and I've

1004
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: been doing it for a while I did. I did

1005
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: some of that stuff for a company called Graystone. If

1006
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: you go back, Graystone was kind of like Blackwater Erik

1007
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: Prince's little little executive outcomes company. And I saw I

1008
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: did stuff for a while and he came over brand

1009
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: new and he was he was working some CIA contracts

1010
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: and he's like, he comes in and he's he's he's

1011
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: he's like, where are we staying? Like, well, you stay locally.

1012
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: You just go find you a place to live. Well,

1013
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: what happens if we get wrapped up? Well, don't get

1014
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: wrapped up, because if you do, you're not coming out

1015
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: of there. And I like to do and I had

1016
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: to ask, do you have a plane ticket out? No,

1017
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: I was waiting for the company to buy it. Nope,

1018
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: you go get your old plane ticket and you have

1019
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: a plane ticket out of here, so if you have

1020
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: to get to the airport, you can get there like that.

1021
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: He was just very he was very unprepared because he's

1022
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: thought it was a government type contract where you have

1023
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: really all your logistical stuff is done and you have

1024
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 1: that you're right, that title tan top cover, that Geneva

1025
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: convention top cover. And I had to explain it to him.

1026
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: We don't brother, you're you're on your own and now

1027
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: being a seal, he he was okay, he got he

1028
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: took it. He took him a few weeks to finally

1029
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: just get wrapped around it. But once he did, he

1030
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: was fine. But initially he was very unprepared. And I'm

1031
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: glad nothing happened to us the first two weeks were there,

1032
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: because you know, I don't I don't know what he

1033
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 1: would have been able to get out of there at all.

1034
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: Um But you're you're exactor, right. But if you're gonna

1035
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: contract guys and you're gonna do these private contracts out there,

1036
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: just know that that you're you're essentially on your own.

1037
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: But that's part of the draw in the romanticism to them.

1038
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: That's why they're fun, because you are essentially on your own.

1039
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: That's what makes him fun. That's what makes the adrenaline go.

1040
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: Um So, But but be careful, you know, just just

1041
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: and know that that that company that you're working for,

1042
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: if you do something bad where you're out there and

1043
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: you're and you get caught, they probably are they're a

1044
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: private corporation. They're probably gonna deny you even work for.

1045
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: And but that's again that's part. That's part of the contract.

1046
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: That's why you do it. That's why we that's we're adrenaline.

1047
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: Junky's right, that's why we go do it. Yeah, well,

1048
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: well said man. I think people would want to hear

1049
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: your take on that, So I'm glad that that you

1050
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: gave it to us. Um, it was funny that you

1051
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: were mentioning that Max Martini was the one guy in

1052
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: Thirteen Hours that you agreed with politically. We just had

1053
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: him on the podcast and he was He's a cool guy.

1054
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: He is, I think, isn't he. He's part of the

1055
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: Friends of Abe and Friends of Abe right that Gary

1056
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: Sine's the actor's guild that they're all very conservative. I

1057
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: think it's called Friends of Abe. I've heard he's part

1058
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 1: of that. Okay, I think that's what it's called good Crime.

1059
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 1: I believe so because I've heard of what you're talking about. Yeah,

1060
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he definitely if you listen back to the interview,

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00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: you could you could tell, yeah, he does not fit

1062
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 1: in with the agenda of most of Hollywood. Yeah. Yeah,

1063
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: and and a lot of that is it kiss the

1064
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: death to most But Max has been able to to

1065
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: to you know, get through it. And become a very

1066
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: well established Actressess continually used, whether it's a starring roles

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00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: or as a as a as a supporting actor. And

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00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: again with Max, just knowing him and meeting him personally

1069
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: and hanging out with him and drinking some beers with him,

1070
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: drinking some whiskey with them, having them leave me in

1071
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: Malta by myself at three in the morning when they

1072
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: all bolted and I didn't know how to get home

1073
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: back to the hotel. He's a great dude, just a great,

1074
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: great person. And I again another actor that took his

1075
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: craft seriously and did a phenomenal job portraying oz and

1076
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: and everything else. He doesn't you remember him in the Unit?

1077
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: He was fantastic in the Unit. So that TV show

1078
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: about the Delta Commandos. So Max and Max is just

1079
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: generally just a just a really nice nice guy and

1080
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: I liked him a lot. So I got nothing a

1081
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: good thing to say about Max Martini. Yeah, there there

1082
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: seems to be more and more guys who I think

1083
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: are pearl military or former military coming into Hollywood. We

1084
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: just had Michael Broderick on who's in Detective and he's

1085
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: a former marine and good in review with him, So

1086
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: I think there are some of those guys, you know,

1087
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: regardless of what's portrayed out there. As you were saying,

1088
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: you kind of deleted all your social media for a while,

1089
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: so a lot of that following has gone. So if

1090
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: people want to refollow Chris on Instagram, it's at real

1091
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: Underscore Chris Underscore to Toronto. And then I know you

1092
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: wanted to promote what you're up to between battle line

1093
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: and four hours, So if there's anything you want to

1094
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: talk about with that, you feel free. Well, you missed

1095
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: the Todd although I think it's real underscore Cris Underscore,

1096
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: Tondo Underscore Toronto. But we look back if you just

1097
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: make sure it says real and there and there's only

1098
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: a few posts right now. Yeah, I'm getting stuff back

1099
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: up um and and you. It sucks because as a

1100
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: public figure more or less, you still kind of have

1101
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: to have that stuff going. But now at least I

1102
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: know how to navigate it the right way. I still

1103
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: I have a new Facebook pays us up to and

1104
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: Facebook and then Twitter. I haven't done yet. I haven't

1105
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: got back on Twitter yet because that makes me angry.

1106
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: Just don't well, you've gotten banned a few times you're

1107
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: in the same club with Yeah, I mean, yeah, just done.

1108
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: I'll Probaceta away from that and then but yeah, I

1109
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: still have the training company battle Line Tactical, and that's myself.

1110
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: Ben Morgan, who I was went to high school with

1111
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: actually were I shouldn't say that. We went to rival

1112
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: high schools. I just dated all the girls from his

1113
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: high school. So we just didn't like me back then.

1114
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: But now we're friends. And he was with me. He

1115
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: was a first Ranger back guy, and he was with

1116
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: me at fifth Italian nineties Special Forces Group. We're both

1117
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: on ODE and he helps me run the company. In fact,

1118
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: he pretty much runs battle Line logistical aspects of it

1119
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: because he's he just he's talented at and very brilliant.

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00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: Has a dry fire training system called the Morgan Morgan

1121
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,479
Speaker 1: Timing System. But battle Line and them. I have Larry

1122
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: the Blackbreaded Cowboy Larry Stevenson, who was a former Denver

1123
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: police officer. Um. He has a story within his own

1124
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: right about how he had to deal with with a

1125
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: a suspect that he had that was on tar heroin

1126
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: and he actually I'll get into him, but he's going

1127
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: to get into him more in a little bit because

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00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in my new book. I have a

1129
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: third book coming out and Larry's story is going to

1130
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: be part of that. But where he had to apprehend

1131
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: a suspect on tar heroin and he got cut and

1132
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: stabbed sadly and still managed to apprehend the suspect. And

1133
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: but I don't want to I don't want to steal

1134
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: his thunder. But he's one of the instructors as well.

1135
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: He does a pistol. But what I love about Larry

1136
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: is Larry does the hand hand stuff. And when you

1137
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: come to those courses, he doesn't And he doesn't do

1138
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: that the the the in the studio, here's the octagon

1139
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: hand had stuff. He does what Pooky would do on

1140
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: the street, hand to hand stuff. So you're gonna learn,

1141
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna learn how to fight Pooky if you're on

1142
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: the street. And Larry doesn't mess around. Larry doesn't mess around.

1143
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: And and people come away after learning from Larry and

1144
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,959
Speaker 1: he's such a great guy that they're like, oh my gosh,

1145
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: I gotta train with this guy again. And he's just

1146
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: says he's just huge. He's just huge black cowboy. He's

1147
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: a big, big dude and Larry the blast Way is

1148
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: Larry the Black Bearded Cowboy. And then we have Benny Glossop,

1149
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: who's another hand to hand m M, a guy that

1150
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: does a lot of our hand has stuff amazing, amazing

1151
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: teacher as well. And then I'm Jeremy Mitchell, James Zampier,

1152
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: a couple of couple of farms guys that know their

1153
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: stuff as far as farms, and then little old Me

1154
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: and and Boon Boone actually doing his own thing now.

1155
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: Boon stepped away from battle Line. Boone and I are

1156
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: still he's still one of my best friends. And still

1157
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: Boon still training in Florida, so always recommend to go

1158
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: training Boone, but he's not doing the battle line like

1159
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: he did last year. It's just it's just too much,

1160
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: too much travel and too taxing. So I'm pretty much

1161
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: every course from here on out, I'm gonna be there

1162
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be running running them. So and we

1163
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: rather we're still out there going around, going around to travel,

1164
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: and you can find our schedule on battle Line Tactical

1165
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: and then the fourteenth Hour Foundation which actually I don't

1166
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: I don't do the handshaking hand and here's your check

1167
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: sort of thing too people. But we have given out

1168
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: quite a bit of money to other foundations and and

1169
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: people that are in need of assistance. And I would

1170
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: say probably about fifty dollars over the last year, um

1171
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: that we've given out. But I do want people to

1172
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: know that I'm sorry, guys, I don't go along. I

1173
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: do want people know that if you do apply for

1174
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: a grant from a foundation, it's it's a it is

1175
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: a lot of pay for it, guys. It's not like

1176
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: just putting up a go fund me and uh um,

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00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: you have to have all your ducks in a row

1178
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: because we have We have to as a foundation, have

1179
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: to show need. We have to show that there's no

1180
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: other way that you can make this money, whether it's

1181
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: from Social Security benefits, whether it's from a part time job,

1182
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: whether it's why don't you have a part time job,

1183
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: whether it's from scholarships that you may have a college. Um,

1184
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. I have a marine that

1185
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: that needs money. He says he needs money for his schooling,

1186
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: but I have no tax information from him, and from

1187
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: what I understand how he doesn't have any disability. So

1188
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: it's yeah, bro, I want to give you ten thousand dollars.

1189
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: But the RS is going to come to me and say, hey,

1190
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: why are you giving this guy money when he actually

1191
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: just he could go out there and get a work

1192
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: study job. Because when I was going to grad school,

1193
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: I had a full time job with by and I

1194
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: did work study, so I didn't have to take money.

1195
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: So they said, guys, if you are going to apply

1196
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: though as an individual, if you can just show the

1197
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: needs there and I believe me, I'll give it. I'll

1198
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: give you the money. I gave money to a police

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00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: officer whose son needed to go to a special needs school,

1200
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: but he gave me all the highr S tax forms

1201
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: that I needed to do it. You know, I gave

1202
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: him it was he was given to so his son

1203
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: can go through a special needs school. That was given

1204
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: to New York police officer did that last month. But

1205
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: it is a I'm not gonna lie to you. It

1206
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: is a pain in the ass. But if you really

1207
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: do need it, and you could prove that you do,

1208
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: you're going to get the money. I'm not even going

1209
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,439
Speaker 1: to second guess. It's like, here's your check, and because

1210
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: it's necessary, you deserve it. You deserve it. But it's

1211
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: just I think That's why a lot of people, a

1212
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: lot of veterans don't do do go fund me and

1213
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: don't apply for for grants because it's it a lot

1214
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: of paperwork. If I was going to do it, I

1215
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: would be a paid in the ask for me to

1216
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: Like God, that is a lot of paperwork. But that's

1217
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: the I r s. What can I do? I can't

1218
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: get around it. But fourteen Hour Foundation guys go to

1219
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: go to and you can go to my Facebook page there.

1220
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: And also we have a website fourteen hours dot org

1221
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: fourteen hours dot org, and we may I may forgive

1222
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: me if I may have updated it because of my

1223
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: old publicist kind of hijacked all my websites. So Ian,

1224
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: we may want to double check that trip I could

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01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: do it right now, you're saying fourteen hours dot org. Yeah,

1226
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: I think she hijacked all those sides from you. Never

1227
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: have never never worked with the vindictive publicist. If I

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01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: go to fourteen hours dot org, it's still up there

1229
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: with you. So is it still up there? Okay, Well

1230
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: she hijacked the other one. So my old website, remember

1231
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: it was Chris tonal parano dot com. Now it's Kris

1232
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: tona Parano dot net. I had to change it because

1233
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: she she left and just basically basically didn't thing she

1234
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: could to to subvert myself in the pity. But you know,

1235
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: that's that's how people are using. You've rolled through it

1236
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: and you just keep driving on. You keep moving forward

1237
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: that you don't quit on it, you don't cry about it,

1238
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: just keep making a positive step forward. I hear you, man,

1239
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: Well you sound great. You know. I hope that you

1240
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: don't get involved in too much stuff and then get

1241
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: burnt out, you know, because it sounds like it's a

1242
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: lot on your plate. But it's at Real and I'll

1243
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: get it right this time at Real Understoore Chris Underscore

1244
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: Tonto Underscore Toronto on Instagram. Uh, you know, kind of

1245
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: just starting this whole thing up again. And dude, it's

1246
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: been great talking. If I could come out on Thursday,

1247
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: I will. I don't know how far this place in

1248
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: Jersey is from me. I'll check it out, but I

1249
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: haven't seen you in a while and would love to. Um,

1250
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'll see how far out it is. But

1251
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: once again, for the audience, it's a war. Heroes TV

1252
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: dot Com tickets are still available, as well as meet

1253
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 1: and greet, and if you do the meet and greet,

1254
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: Chris is a great guy. You always take time to

1255
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, really like shoot the ship with the fans

1256
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: and people like your stuff and on the on that note,

1257
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: just interrupt one second. I owe you an oblique thank you, perhaps, Chris,

1258
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: because when I went to your book signing here in Manhattan,

1259
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: which was at Emmet Old Ones, Yeah, I packed with

1260
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: people there to see Chris. When I when I was there,

1261
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: I met an editor. I guess it was your editor

1262
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 1: from Simon and Schuster, and uh I signed a book

1263
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: deal with her. And uh, my book is coming out

1264
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: in April. Now, oh, that's that's awesome. You whatever good

1265
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: things come about from whatever I do. I I'd love

1266
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: to see that with help other people. That's that's because

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Speaker 1: of you, Chris. I'll get through it. But brother, that's

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Speaker 1: that's fantastic. Congratulations. And I hope I've got a third

1269
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: book called The Patriots Creed coming out on the tent.

1270
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: I hope, m it's stuff places still there because it is.

1271
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: We're going to do another book releases. I love. If

1272
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: you're New York City, you gotta go to Amati s M.

1273
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: It's an awesome guy. Graduations, Jack, Yeah, thank you. And

1274
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: it's also it's kind of funny or you're talking about

1275
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: guys in Hollywood who don't fit the usual stereotype like

1276
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: of a New York business owner. He definitely does not

1277
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: like fit that student in the theater District two, which

1278
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: is awesome, I know. And you go in there and

1279
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: you see like the at like shrug stuff and the

1280
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: world cow stuff and all of you guys, you know,

1281
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: our covers, and he has the best the best food,

1282
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: the best beast stew in the whole city. I love

1283
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: the food he's got there. So I mean, you go

1284
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: in there, and you walk in and it is a pub,

1285
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: but it's a cleaned up, nice, classy pub, but it's

1286
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: not so classy that you still can't spill drinks on

1287
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: the floor and bump each other's shoulders and get drunk.

1288
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: But then you can also go sit down and have

1289
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: a fantastic meal with your family and not worry that

1290
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: some drunk cooligan is gonna come punch in the face.

1291
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's it's I don't know how he's

1292
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: got it, but he's got that vibe there that's just

1293
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: perfect perfectly well said man. Well thanks for coming on.

1294
01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we were able to do this, and

1295
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: as I said, I'll let you know if I can

1296
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: come out on Thursday, um, but would love to see

1297
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: you again. It's it's definitely been a while. No worries, brother,

1298
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: your family first, Okay, I don't I don't expect anything.

1299
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: You show up as you can if you can't, because

1300
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: you know, I've dotched you probably more than you ever

1301
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: dodged me. I don't think you ever. I don't think

1302
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: you ever have. I mean, there's a moment there where

1303
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: I could tell you were stepping away from everything. But

1304
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: for the most part, any time I hit you up

1305
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: to come on, you're you're here, and uh, you know,

1306
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: regardless of like changes in the lineup of who's on

1307
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: this show. We were laughing about that, but I mean

1308
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: it's been Jack and I consistently the entire time, which

1309
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: is cool, and you know, I think that's that's what

1310
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: the audience likes, to be honest. It makes it makes

1311
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: it easy. And I think you have a good, very

1312
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: white voice, dude. Honestly, it makes me all relaxed and

1313
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: falling right now in my bed just listening to you talk.

1314
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: It's just relaxing, soothing, soothing, very white. That's that's a

1315
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: high compliment and I appreciate it, Chris. You're welcome from

1316
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: it now, whereas I appreciate again, God bless you you

1317
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: and just yeah, let me know, and you know you

1318
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: got my direct line. I don't have I do all

1319
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: my media stuff. I'm handling it all myself. Tanya my

1320
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: ex wife, which is really she's my girlfriend now and

1321
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: and well, well I'm sure we'll end up getting remarried

1322
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: here soon if we in the nick. But she handles

1323
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff for me. And it's amazing

1324
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: when you finally have that support. You know, as Alpha

1325
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: Male's brother, we ain't as tough as we think we are.

1326
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: I was tough when I was a ranger, and I

1327
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: was tough when I was a contractor because I had

1328
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: a good woman that was backing me up. And I've

1329
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: lost that the last three years. And and that's you know,

1330
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: you'd be shocked how strong you can you can be

1331
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: when you actually have a woman that backs you up

1332
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: and and and supports you and and really takes care

1333
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: of our big, big woosey asses, and how strong it

1334
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: can be. It's not us. We're not stronghold. It's that

1335
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: woman behind the scenes that's the strong ones. And just

1336
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, and all you guys think the grass is greener,

1337
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: it ain't. Guys, so don't even don't the grass is

1338
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: not green or I'm telling you right now. But if

1339
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: you want to go find out for yourself, go find

1340
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: out for yourself. Just keep that little bit of strength

1341
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: left to get out before before you get overcome. Um.

1342
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: But then again, I'm off my soapbox again. He and

1343
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: you gotta tell me to stop doing this ship stop.

1344
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: I love Ben. Alright, we'll let you go. Great, great

1345
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: talk to you Chris. Yeah, Chris, thanks for coming on

1346
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: the show today. Thanks guys again, ask God bless you.

1347
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again soon. Ah yeah, it's great

1348
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: hearing from you. Talk to you soon. By dude. Chris

1349
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: is uh, I have to say, just such a likable guy. Um.

1350
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: There's probably people you know in the audience who haven't

1351
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: heard this type of but that's just him being him.

1352
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: He's very candid, um, very candidate on this show when

1353
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: he comes on and as himself and I dig it, man,

1354
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: there's a reason why he's you know, gotten so many

1355
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: opportunities and um, I think probably to go right into

1356
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: the spotlight the way he did. And you know there's

1357
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,479
Speaker 1: people at media matters and stuff who have gone after

1358
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: Chris and and you know, he definitely got wrapped up

1359
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: into getting fights on Twitter and all that, and I

1360
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: could see how it could be very taxing and you

1361
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: could say, funk all this, I'm deleting all of the

1362
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: social media and and then you know, I'm sure for him.

1363
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: You know, you're promoting a business, you're promoting a foundation,

1364
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: you're doing good work like this for this this war

1365
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: hero's TV series, and you realize like you kind of

1366
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: need to have social media. It's like that necessary evil.

1367
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: But you know, all of this is kind of designed

1368
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: to be addicting. And I see what people all the

1369
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: time every day. It's like they're looking for a new

1370
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: person to fight on Twitter, and you know, good people. Honestly,

1371
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: There's some people I think do it out of fun,

1372
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: like b K, who really enjoys it, and then there's

1373
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: other people I think it it actually becomes like a

1374
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: stressful part of their life. So yeah, I mean, i'd

1375
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: be office social media too, frankly if but I mean

1376
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: it's business, and it's like, you know, kind of like

1377
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: you are your business. You know what, what is it like? Uh,

1378
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: like Gene Simmons said, like you treat yourself as a

1379
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: name brand. Yeah, you know, that's that's what we we

1380
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: are in a way. Um, so it's like not you

1381
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: can't really step away from it entirely. And it's definitely

1382
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: a double edged sword. So I mean, I get it.

1383
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean I think i'd go ahead and delete it

1384
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: all to you know, why not? Yeah, no, I hear you.

1385
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: It does get it just gets overwhelming. Uh you know what.

1386
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: I I actually really appreciate the fact because it wasn't

1387
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 1: something I mentioned to him prior to the interview. I

1388
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: wanted to get his real take. I appreciate him giving

1389
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: the real take about these contractors working uh for foreign governments,

1390
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: because honestly, Chris could have been like, no comment, I

1391
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: don't want to get involved in that. But he gave

1392
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: us a very real answer to that, and I appreciate it.

1393
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: You know, that was like some real talk, you know

1394
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: with what like he said, he you know that he

1395
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 1: doesn't know maybe doesn't know the specifics, but like in

1396
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: the broader sense of what he was saying, I couldn't

1397
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: agree with him more. I mean That's what I've been

1398
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: trying to say as well, is like just understand when

1399
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: you go over there, you know you're not protected the

1400
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: same way you are in the United States, where if

1401
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: you're working for the US government, like you're you're out

1402
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: on your own. Yeah. And I think the point he

1403
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: made is true as well, that you know you're going

1404
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: to take a major risk working for a US owned company,

1405
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: which he has done, is he said, but it's a

1406
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: whole new level of risk when you're working for a

1407
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: foreign government or a foreign company. Yeah. Yeah, Well I

1408
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: appreciate Chris coming on once again. Um, the man, there's

1409
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,560
Speaker 1: so many parts of that that I'm gonna have to

1410
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: make like video highlights for on Instagram because he said

1411
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: a lot there at Real Underscore, Chris Underscore, Tanto Underscore Pronto.

1412
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, man, he's he's exactly the way that people

1413
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: you know would think he is. And as he said,

1414
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: like that, we've known each other a while. I I

1415
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: knew him prior to him ever coming on the show, Uh,

1416
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 1: just from working when I was working at Serious Sex.

1417
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a very um, you know, genuine guy,

1418
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: and you can tell when people are real and people

1419
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: are fake. And it comes through and certain things he's

1420
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: written about that I think a lot of people would hide.

1421
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: You know, when he wrote that piece about him at

1422
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 1: one time being suicidal and woman at the airport saying,

1423
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,560
Speaker 1: hey are Utanto keeps speaking your truth and that that

1424
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: helps keep him strong. A lot of people would never

1425
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: have the balls to write something. You know. I should

1426
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 1: have hold him this when we had him here, but um,

1427
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: that was also when we interviewed him last time, when

1428
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: he was in studio with us. That was also like

1429
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: part of the inspiration for me to write my own

1430
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 1: book because and I saw I was like, here's this

1431
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: guy who's being like so candid. He's not just like

1432
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 1: tugging himself off here and like talking about how great

1433
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: he is. Like he's really talking to like some real

1434
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: talk about like these dark, dark moments. And like for me,

1435
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, so it is possible to tell

1436
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: your story without it just being a huge ego trip

1437
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: and you know talking about these things. Um, So that

1438
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: was kind of an inspiration for me. Actually, that's awesome.

1439
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: Also the way he um the character he portrayed, which

1440
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: was really kind of himself, and that all that remains video.

1441
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: I thought he did an excellent job with that. You

1442
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: probably I think I've shown you, but it was that

1443
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: all that remains video We're there in the White House

1444
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: and just kind of plays a you know, a vet

1445
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: on the brink of suicide. I thought he did an

1446
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: excellent job, especially for a guy who's no formal acting

1447
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 1: training or anything. Crazy thing of out with that band.

1448
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: By the way, we've had Phili Bonti on the podcast before.

1449
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: Um it's been a few months, I believe, but you know,

1450
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: the guitarist for that band died. I've been kind of

1451
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: following stuff going on in the news about it, and

1452
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: Phil did an interview about his guitarist dying, which was

1453
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: supposedly from some type of drug induced thing, and basically

1454
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: Phil said in the interview that he said that this

1455
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 1: guitarist was never into hard drugs, hard partying. This was

1456
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: never his thing. And he's like, he said, we would

1457
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: never allow his wife on the road with us because

1458
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: he was like, his wife was nuts, and he I

1459
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: think he I don't have the quote in front of you,

1460
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: but he basically said his wife is a piece of

1461
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: human garbage. And they were like, are you, you know,

1462
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 1: insinuating something between your guitarist death and the wife. And

1463
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: he was like, because there's an ongoing case, I can't

1464
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: speak about it, but I'm gonna be leave it at that.

1465
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: So there might be something pretty crazy going on with that. Yeah. Yeah,

1466
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: especially as he said, he was like, if anybody knows

1467
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: this guy, I do. I've been on the road with him.

1468
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 1: He's been in the band the whole time for I think,

1469
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's over a decade, it might

1470
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: even be two decades around. And he's like, this guy

1471
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: never got into hard drugs. Was the type of guy

1472
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: who drank a couple of beers and that was it,

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Speaker 1: howly ship. Yeah, So we'll see. I mean, maybe at

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Speaker 1: some point we get um Phil back on if there's

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Speaker 1: a case spending after the case has resolved. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: it was a it was a real shame to hear.

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Speaker 1: And and in this interview that I saw, he said

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Speaker 1: that he was telling him many times to get divorced

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Speaker 1: from this woman, and he's like, just never, you know,

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Speaker 1: got through. So we'll see, we'll see if more comes out. Man, Um,

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Speaker 1: great show. And the last thing I'll mention real quick

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Speaker 1: is if you haven't already check out Big Mountain Heroes

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. The full documentaries on YouTube. Now, those guys

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Speaker 1: did a great job. And while I was on here,

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Speaker 1: I saw that Kristen Beck got back to me on

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Speaker 1: my comment on Instagram. Kristen Beck is in New York

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Speaker 1: City doing something and I was like, hey, stop by

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Speaker 1: the podcast and and Kristen said, I'll shoot your text

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Speaker 1: about it. So maybe we'll Christen on on Thursday. We

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Speaker 1: have and Andy Paulski who's a historian who wrote a

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Speaker 1: book about um the presidents and times of war. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, maybe we could do a pretape with

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Speaker 1: Christian and report two things. We'll see. I'll get back

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Speaker 1: to Christian because I think it'd be great. It's someone

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Speaker 1: that we've we've covered a lot on the show, have

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Speaker 1: never had in studio. I've never been to come in.

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Speaker 1: That'd be fu Yeah, So we'll see. Um, you know

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Speaker 1: that's the possibility. Guys. As always, thanks for checking out

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Speaker 1: the show. Thanks especially for checking out the last show.

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