WEBVTT - DVD vs. Blu-ray

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology with

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello there, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Poulette,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am the tech editor here at how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works dot com, sending across from me as usual as

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<v Speaker 1>senior writer Jonathan Strickland. We're living in a material world.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not going there. It's because our our

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<v Speaker 1>guest producer, Liz called me a prima madonna, just because

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<v Speaker 1>I said that I can't work like this and I

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<v Speaker 1>would be in my trailer. By the way, my trailer

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<v Speaker 1>is underneath my cubicle. That explains the trash. Yeah, it does,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of trailer trash. You know what, Before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into a total rat hole here, I think we could

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about some pumpkins. Pumpkins, Yes, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you like to when you look at a pumpkin?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think? I'm thinking I prefer it that

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<v Speaker 1>way and not as a pie. Really, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to see that move at a high velocity

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<v Speaker 1>and splat into the ground as hard as possible, preferably

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<v Speaker 1>as far away from its origin possible. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>spend hours thinking of ways to propel a pumpkin through

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<v Speaker 1>mechanical means, through the air, onto the ground and splat

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<v Speaker 1>into a thousand pieces. Alright, then, so what is the

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<v Speaker 1>best way to achieve that? Well, it turns out the

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<v Speaker 1>best way to achieve it is to watch people who

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<v Speaker 1>already know what they're doing. And you can do just

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<v Speaker 1>that because the Science Channel has two television shows, the

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<v Speaker 1>Road to Punkin Chunkin and punkin Chunking, that are airing

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<v Speaker 1>on Thanksgiving Day, which would be November at eight p

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<v Speaker 1>m on the Science Channel. Yes, eight p m is

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<v Speaker 1>the Road to Punkin Chunkin. Nine pm is punkin Chunkin.

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<v Speaker 1>You two can watch as pumpkins do what they were

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<v Speaker 1>born to do, fly through the air and smash into

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. Ah. Yes, and hopefully noone will make pie

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<v Speaker 1>out of them afterwards, I would hope, not sowing the

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<v Speaker 1>seeds of destruction. You might say, yes. Indeed, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say that, but you might I would. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's move on. Today's topic actually comes to us courtesy

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<v Speaker 1>of a little listener mail. This listener mail comes from

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<v Speaker 1>Brian in Vegas, Viva Las Vegas, Brian, He writes, Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>love the podcast. Got a question for you, guys, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the difference between Blu ray and DVD? I own

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<v Speaker 1>both but can't tell the difference by looking at them.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the way they encode the disks? Brian and Vegas. Well, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk a bit about DVDs and a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about Blu ray and what the differences and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know why there's two different sets of all

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<v Speaker 1>the movies that you want to see in your local

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<v Speaker 1>movie store. And if we're lucky, we can manage to

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<v Speaker 1>get through the entire thing without quoting an Austin Powers movie,

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<v Speaker 1>because it all comes down to one simple thing. Freaking lasers.

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<v Speaker 1>Just get it all the way. Look, I got the

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<v Speaker 1>hairstyle for Dr Evil, so I'm just gonna go with it. Yeah, lasers,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. So first of all, before we before we

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<v Speaker 1>really dig into it, let's talk a bit about digitally

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<v Speaker 1>encoding information onto a disc format. This applies to compact discs, DVDs,

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<v Speaker 1>blue rays, and even the limited HD DVD, also DVD audio, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>other other formats as well, but really, any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>digital encoding upon a disc um So it's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>similar in a way to the analog way of encoding

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<v Speaker 1>sound on a vinyl disc, only in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to spend the disk and and a reading

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<v Speaker 1>mechanism goes across the disc and picks up information. Now

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<v Speaker 1>in the case, yeah, I wouldn't say that's completely that

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<v Speaker 1>that's the only way. Well, maybe not, but we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between digital and analog. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of differences. Well actually yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the main one being nothing actually touches the disk,

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<v Speaker 1>and in in the newer polycarbonate discs. But in both

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<v Speaker 1>cases it is the surface of the disk which is

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<v Speaker 1>uh has has has a texture. It doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 1>a DVD has texture, but it does, right, So the

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<v Speaker 1>DVD has these tiny little bumps. It's there. Usually you

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<v Speaker 1>hear about DVD pits. The pit is on one side

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<v Speaker 1>of the DVD, but the side that is actually read

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<v Speaker 1>by the freaking laser beam that side. It's more of

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<v Speaker 1>a bump. And these bumps are tiny, and I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>tinier than microscopic. We're talking on the nanoscale tiny, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why they appear flat to us. Yeah, of course

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<v Speaker 1>you can. You can try to smash them out with

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<v Speaker 1>a hammer, but I wouldn't recommend it because that will

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<v Speaker 1>break your dvdsy So, um, we're talking that, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>in the nanometers range. Uh, the I'll tell you right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>so a typical bump on a DVD would be about um,

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<v Speaker 1>three and twenty nanometers in width, like like wide, which

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty narrows long, which is also not that long.

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<v Speaker 1>These are tiny, tiny little bumps, and uh, a red

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<v Speaker 1>laser reads these bumps. Yeah. The DVD players and and

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<v Speaker 1>c D audio players use red lasers to read the disks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So here's here's what's happening. A laser gets the the

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<v Speaker 1>DVD player or CD players shoots the laser that gets

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<v Speaker 1>reflected by these different little bumps and by the smooth

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<v Speaker 1>spaces between the bumps, and the difference in that is

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<v Speaker 1>what is interpreted by the machine as bits and bites,

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<v Speaker 1>and that in turn is what ends up being converted

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<v Speaker 1>into the video and audio that you experience when you

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<v Speaker 1>PLoP a DVD or Blu Ray into a DVD or

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Ray player and you turn your TV. The difference

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<v Speaker 1>is a matter of size, right, because a Blu ray

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<v Speaker 1>player can read bumps that are much much smaller than

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<v Speaker 1>a DVD player. And why is that? It's because of

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<v Speaker 1>freaking lasers. Yes, the blue ray actually got its name

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<v Speaker 1>from the fact that it uses a blue laser. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the blue ray right right. And uh, it has

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<v Speaker 1>a shorter wavelength of light wavelength. So that's that's the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. Because it has a shorter wavelength, it can

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<v Speaker 1>read information in a smaller track. Right. So, um, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about like like when you think of the spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>of colors, that's what we're talking about, the wavelength. So

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<v Speaker 1>roy g Biv. Although I think they took out the eye,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't they. I don't think there's no longer an indigo.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it goes is blue to violet now because

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<v Speaker 1>there was a discussion about how indigo and violet are

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<v Speaker 1>too close to one another to be considered separate. I

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<v Speaker 1>might did the school that I am familiar with they

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<v Speaker 1>are still teaching. Yeah, but we're in Georgia. So Roy

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<v Speaker 1>g Biv. The the color what a what a dirty look?

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<v Speaker 1>I got the Uh? I went to school in Georgia too.

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<v Speaker 1>But the colors go from the longer wavelengths to the

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<v Speaker 1>shorter wavelengths, So a red laser has a longer wavelength

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<v Speaker 1>um than a blue laser. Uh. So the red lasers

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<v Speaker 1>wavelength is about six d and fifty nanometers or rnometers

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<v Speaker 1>if you prefer, I do prefer nenometers. I'm saying nanometers.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the blue laser has four hundred and five

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<v Speaker 1>four and five nanometer wavelength. So that means that the

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<v Speaker 1>blue laser can actually focus on a smaller bump than

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<v Speaker 1>the red laser. Thus you are able to fit more

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<v Speaker 1>bumps and uh and the flat tracks between bumps on

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<v Speaker 1>a blu ray DVD than you would on a regular DVD.

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<v Speaker 1>What this translates to for you and me mean is

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<v Speaker 1>the dig capacity of storing a high definition film versus

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<v Speaker 1>a standard definition film. Right, so high definition audio and video,

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<v Speaker 1>why should just say high definition video? High definition audio

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really mean anything. High definition video takes up a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of space, so much space that I A. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to try and pack more than an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and a half of of a high definition content greater

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<v Speaker 1>than seven lines of resolution, you're gonna need something besides

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<v Speaker 1>a regular DVD, because even with video compression, it just

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<v Speaker 1>can't do. Oh, I can't do it uncompressed, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>even with video compression, it can't hold that much information. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>a single layer DVD only holds four point seven gigabytes.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love only because I'm that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of information. Yeah. I think back to I think

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<v Speaker 1>back to the days of CDs coming out and thinking, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>on one disc, I can hold that much information? Who

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<v Speaker 1>would ever need more than? Right? I mean seven hundred megs.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine filling up more than a hundred at

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<v Speaker 1>a time. My first hard drive was forty megs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think mine might have been run around that same size.

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<v Speaker 1>And before that didn't have a hard drive at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all on floppy disks. But yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a single layer of Blu ray in comparison, holds twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven gigabytes, and that's more than two hours of high

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<v Speaker 1>def video or standard. Yeah. But the thing, the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>though DVD is only really equipped to do right well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it can do seven twenty, It can do

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<v Speaker 1>more than that or to, but it can't hold as

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<v Speaker 1>much information. So, in other words, it can it can

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<v Speaker 1>do it, it just has to. It's not gonna it's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna have as much. So like you can do

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<v Speaker 1>the higher resolutions, but you have to. But you because

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<v Speaker 1>that requires more information or more storage space, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>store as much of it as you could on a

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<v Speaker 1>blue ray. So again, DVD four point seven gigs, Blu

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<v Speaker 1>ray twenty seven gigs. That's single layer on either case.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you can double layer these discs. Uh. So a

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<v Speaker 1>double layer Blu ray would hold up to fifty four

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<v Speaker 1>gigabytes of data. Um. Now, when you're double layering, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an interesting thing. You've got two different tracks

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<v Speaker 1>going uh along a disc. And here's another interesting thing,

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<v Speaker 1>another thing that's different between uh, the digital discs and vinyl.

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<v Speaker 1>With vinyl, you put the needle on the outer part

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<v Speaker 1>of the record and it naturally works its way through

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<v Speaker 1>the groove to the center. All right. With these digital discs,

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<v Speaker 1>the laser, the freaking laser starts in the center and

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<v Speaker 1>works it's outward toward the edge. Now, can you think

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<v Speaker 1>of anything that could cause an issue as a laser

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<v Speaker 1>moves from the center of a disk toward the outer

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<v Speaker 1>part of a disk? I mean, other than like a

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<v Speaker 1>scratch or a dog here, right, I'm just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a natural thing that will happen as you're moving from

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<v Speaker 1>the center of a disk to the outside of a disk. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens to the speed of the data that's going

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<v Speaker 1>by as you as your laser moves outward, Because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's gonna get slower. Well, the disk has to

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<v Speaker 1>move slower. See, the problem is that it's gonna the

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<v Speaker 1>data itself will actually move faster because you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>revolutions per second. Okay, if you keep your revolutions per

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<v Speaker 1>second constant, then the data is going to stream by

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<v Speaker 1>much faster toward the edge of the disk than it

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<v Speaker 1>would towards the center. Say yeah, yeah, okay, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you guys are having trouble imagining this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>just get a piece of paper, put something put like

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<v Speaker 1>a little coin around, like maybe towards the center of

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<v Speaker 1>the paper, and maybe another one toward the edge of

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<v Speaker 1>the paper, and turn it one revolution. Now, in that

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<v Speaker 1>one revolution, both coins just made one circle, but the

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<v Speaker 1>one on the outer edge had to go a greater

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<v Speaker 1>distance in that same amount of time. Therefore, the one

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<v Speaker 1>on the outer edge is going faster. Okay, then, so

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<v Speaker 1>in order to compensate for this, DVD players and Blu

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<v Speaker 1>ray players actually physically slowed down the spinning of the

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<v Speaker 1>disk as the laser moves towards the outer edge. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so it automatically knows where where the laser is reading

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<v Speaker 1>and adjusts the speed of the disc spinning. Right, because

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<v Speaker 1>the arm that holds the freaking laser is always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in a specific location and that dictates how

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<v Speaker 1>fast the disk needs to spin. Now, um with a

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<v Speaker 1>double layer The reason why I brought this up is

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<v Speaker 1>because with a double layer disk, it is possible to

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<v Speaker 1>have one layer of information go from the inner edge

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<v Speaker 1>to the outer edge of the disk, right, or from

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<v Speaker 1>the center to the outer edge, I guess I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>And then the second layer could start at the outer

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<v Speaker 1>edge and work its way back into the center. And

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<v Speaker 1>in that case, you would need to speed up the

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<v Speaker 1>disk as it started getting closer and closer to the center,

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise it would not be turning fast enough for it

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<v Speaker 1>to read the information properly. Right. In other words, DVD

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<v Speaker 1>players and Blu ray players make my head hurt because

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<v Speaker 1>they require physics and I was an English major. And

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<v Speaker 1>Blu ray transfers information faster too. I mean, it has

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty six megabit per second data transfer rate as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to just ten make a bit per second for

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<v Speaker 1>our DVD, right, which is also important to note. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's see what we got here. We've we've discussed

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that since you are able to create smaller

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<v Speaker 1>bumps in a Blu ray disk, you therefore can fit

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<v Speaker 1>more bumps onto a disc than you could with a DVD.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you can store more information on it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why you can store high definition information on it, as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to a DVD, where you just can't. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>not doesn't have the capacity. Here's another thing that the

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturing process for the two different discs, it's different. Oh yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Because the DVD is a sandwich. It has two pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of polycarbonate plastic about zero point uh six millimeters six

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<v Speaker 1>tenths of a millimeter um in thickness, and the material

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<v Speaker 1>that has the information on it is sandwiched in between them,

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<v Speaker 1>and the two halves are glued together. Um. Whereas the

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<v Speaker 1>information on a Blu ray disc is actually on top

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<v Speaker 1>um of a one point one millimeter thickness disc, which

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<v Speaker 1>is really amazingly thin, I would think, um, But it

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<v Speaker 1>does have a a plastic coating on top of it,

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<v Speaker 1>a hard coating on top of it to keep it

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<v Speaker 1>from I'm assuming its plastic. It has a hard coating

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<v Speaker 1>on top of it to keep it from getting scratched.

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<v Speaker 1>But it does also prevent distortion uh that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the plastic would cause as the laser would travel through it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is called by refringence. It's it's kind of it's similar, Marty,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, bifrage. It's similar to you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever if you've ever like looked at something through

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<v Speaker 1>a really thick pane of glass or or underwater, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where you you look up through the water and you

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<v Speaker 1>see something beyond the surface, and then when you do

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<v Speaker 1>surface through the water, you realize that it's not exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where I thought it was. It's similar to that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not the exact same thing, but you can think of

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<v Speaker 1>it as uh analogous to it. But yeah, that can

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<v Speaker 1>cause the uh, the red laser to have difficulty getting

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<v Speaker 1>the information and it may even actually cause it to

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<v Speaker 1>uh to skip right. Yeah, that and that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we call a bad thing. Yes, it means that

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to get the experience you want out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Also, a DVD has to be has to

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<v Speaker 1>be flat for that reason. Has to be red flat,

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<v Speaker 1>and Blu Ray disks do not necessarily have to be flat.

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume though, that it would be preferable if

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<v Speaker 1>they were flat. And uh there, because one of them

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<v Speaker 1>is like one point one millim you're stick in the

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<v Speaker 1>other as one point two millimeters stick. A Blu ray

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<v Speaker 1>and a regular DVD look pretty much the same to us.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like you said, is it in the encoding. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also in the decoding, which would be the

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<v Speaker 1>freaking lasers. Um, I'm gonna get so much mail about

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<v Speaker 1>people who were tired of hearing freaking lasers. I expect

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<v Speaker 1>you to. Liz probably will as well. She's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>chuckling right now, but it's not gonna be as funny

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<v Speaker 1>when you're editing, is it? Is it? Liz? Ha um?

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<v Speaker 1>And of course you could always soundscape this to make

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<v Speaker 1>me sound like and even she wanted. Now. The other

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<v Speaker 1>interesting thing, we have articles, by the way, on both

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<v Speaker 1>DVDs and Blue rays on how stuff works dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>both of which I found incredibly informative while cramming for

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. Yes, and they have some great illustrations as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're having if you're having problems, imagining what

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<v Speaker 1>it is we're talking about. I do highly recommend you

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<v Speaker 1>guys check out these articles because it will give you

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<v Speaker 1>a visual sense of the things that we're explaining. But

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I thought was interesting that they

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out um in these articles is that the manufacturing

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<v Speaker 1>process for the Blu ray disc, even though it's different

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<v Speaker 1>from the way DVDs are created, it is not more

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<v Speaker 1>expensive than the way DVDs are created. So then why

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<v Speaker 1>would you say Blu ray discs cost so much more

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<v Speaker 1>in the stores. I think there are a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>different reasons. One is that it's a premium product, so

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<v Speaker 1>you are buying a high definition products so that you

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<v Speaker 1>can the experience that you will get watching a Blu

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<v Speaker 1>ray disc using a Blu ray player on a high

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<v Speaker 1>definition television. All of that is important. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a high definition definition television, this isn't gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>any good. So but the experience of watching one of

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<v Speaker 1>those on an HDTV with right cable connectors, using the

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<v Speaker 1>right equipment, it's gonna be It's gonna be noticeable. It

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<v Speaker 1>may not be as huge a leap as DVD was

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<v Speaker 1>from VHS, but it's still going to be noticeable. The

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<v Speaker 1>other reason is that because the Blu Ray has a

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<v Speaker 1>greater capacity, you could actually pack more specials and UH

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<v Speaker 1>and extras on a Blu Ray disc then you could

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<v Speaker 1>on a DVD. And a lot of companies do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And thirdly, a lot of companies that are making Blu

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<v Speaker 1>Ray players have made them Internet capable and you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually access extra content through the Internet on your Blu

0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Ray player and UH, a lot of companies are are

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<v Speaker 1>making this available where you get, you buy the Blue Ray,

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<v Speaker 1>you put it in your player, you started up, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can access extra content online and things like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, new subtitles. Let's say that you um wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get a film but there was no you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to You had a friend who was coming

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<v Speaker 1>and their English wasn't so good, but they spoke fluent

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<v Speaker 1>Portuguese and you don't have Portuguese normally on the disc.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you pop it in you find out, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an option here where I can get Portuguese subtitles.

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<v Speaker 1>Or it may be extra commentary. It could be anything

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<v Speaker 1>from even extra content like deleted scene. Really pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>anything that they can think of that the movie studios

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<v Speaker 1>can think of could be part of this extra content

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<v Speaker 1>that you can access with your DVD player, your Blu

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<v Speaker 1>ray player, I should say, not DVD player. UM. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you're limited mostly by a couple of things. One, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to have a high speed Internet uh access point. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't have that, then you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to access all this content. Even if you

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<v Speaker 1>could access it, it would take you so long to

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<v Speaker 1>download any of it because it's it's high bandwidth stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's pointless, right, So you have to have a

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<v Speaker 1>high speed Internet connection. And um, you also what was

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<v Speaker 1>that I had to I had to and now I

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<v Speaker 1>only have the one. Ah, it's gone. It's gone high

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<v Speaker 1>speed Internet access. If it comes back, I'll shout okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the things I was hoping it would

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<v Speaker 1>come back immediately, but no, it's not coming back immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>You touched on something there though that I think uh

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<v Speaker 1>might answer the listener meal question. And then I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to come back to because we were talking about why

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<v Speaker 1>might you not be able to see the difference in

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<v Speaker 1>a DVD and a Blu Ray or h D DVD

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<v Speaker 1>for that matter of disc And I think it comes

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<v Speaker 1>down to something we've talked about before. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>screen size and resolution of your TV. Yeah, it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that, uh, let's say that you if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a larger television, you will notice these these differences a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll they'll they'll jump out out at you more. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a smaller TV, the difference in resolution,

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<v Speaker 1>UM isn't going to be quite as noticeable. But on

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<v Speaker 1>that plasma you'll be able to pick it out. Yeah, obviously, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you're talking about like a say, thirty inch television,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, a thirty inch television, standard definition

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<v Speaker 1>may look pretty good. High definition is gonna look fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, anything beyond seven lines of resolution you

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<v Speaker 1>probably don't need. I mean, you probably wouldn't really know

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between seven twenty which or your your two

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<v Speaker 1>main kinds of high definition TV in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>the seven twenty lines of resolution or the ten eight

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<v Speaker 1>lines of resolution. Um. Now, if you have and even

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a bigger TV, some would argue that

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<v Speaker 1>the difference is really not that noticeable. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>say bigger TV, I'm talking like in the fifty to

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<v Speaker 1>sixty inch range, which is that's pretty big. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there are larger televisions out there, and of course you

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<v Speaker 1>could get say a projector, which would you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>digital projector is going to make an even larger picture.

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<v Speaker 1>And in that case, yeah, you may need some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of equipment that will provide a ten a D resolution

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<v Speaker 1>or else it's just gonna look kind of blocky, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know that it's not gonna it will look muddy

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<v Speaker 1>and not as not as crisp. Right. That I think

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<v Speaker 1>is probably the the crux of the situation right there.

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<v Speaker 1>And also there are a lot of DVD players out

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<v Speaker 1>there now that up convert uh signals now an up

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<v Speaker 1>converting d v D. What that does is it tries

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<v Speaker 1>to add in some of the information that is lost

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<v Speaker 1>during the video compression process. Because again, to get a

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<v Speaker 1>movie onto a DVD DVD, I don't know where that

0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:15.480
<v Speaker 1>came from onto a DVD, I tell you it's because

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<v Speaker 1>this studio so hot today, so warm in here today. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But in order to get the information on there, they

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<v Speaker 1>use a compression format and uh, and you tend to

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<v Speaker 1>lose information when you compress it, and so an up

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<v Speaker 1>converter tries to add in information to create a more

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<v Speaker 1>high definition experience, even if the source material itself is

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<v Speaker 1>not high definition. So if you have an up converting

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<v Speaker 1>DVD and a Blu Ray player, and you have a

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<v Speaker 1>copy of the movie on DVD and a copy of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie on Blu Ray, the differences maybe subtle. They

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<v Speaker 1>you should probably still notice them. I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like, uh, it's not like it's you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>would take a an expert to see the difference. But

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<v Speaker 1>it may be that they're not. You know, maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>colors are just a little richer on the Blue ray,

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<v Speaker 1>or that the the edges are look a little more natural,

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<v Speaker 1>not quite as sharp. I mean, it depends. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>very subjective experience. Yeah, I would imagine so. Uh yeah, gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>it never came back to me. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>it was that was in my brain that just decided

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<v Speaker 1>to escape. At least it got while the getting is good. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much stuff in there that's still stuck screaming

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<v Speaker 1>to get out. Thoughts. Did you have anything else to

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<v Speaker 1>add on this discussion of blue ray versus DVD? Not really? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well hopefully that answered your question. Um, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we could have even gone into the whole HD DVD thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The the failure of the of that format, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what's sad is I actually backed that format. I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't purchase an HD DVD player. I didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>that far, but I expected that one to win out

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<v Speaker 1>early on in the race between the two formats. Was

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<v Speaker 1>one of our very first podcasts. Yeah, HD DVD versus

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Blue Ray. Yeah, you know, and and blue ray technically

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 1>can store more information than HD DVD could. But because

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:16.439
<v Speaker 1>HD DVD hit the market first, I thought that that

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be the I thought that was that was

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<v Speaker 1>the death knell there that and it's less expensive, Yeah,

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 1>and it was. It was significantly less expensive than Blue Race.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, now Blu ray players are in a much

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<v Speaker 1>more excuse me, a much more affordable range, especially the

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<v Speaker 1>PS three Slim ount. So you don't rest around with Slim, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't at any rate. I was having a gym

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<v Speaker 1>crochy momentum at any rate. So that wraps up our

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<v Speaker 1>discussion on Blue Ray versus DVD. I guess that brings

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<v Speaker 1>us to our second round of listener mail. This listener

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<v Speaker 1>mail comes from Christopher and he says, hey, guys, love

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. The AI episode was great. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to add a little bit into the part about the captions.

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<v Speaker 1>As you mentioned, they are used for preventing people from

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<v Speaker 1>making mass accounts all across the net. There's a company

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 1>that is making these called Recapture. What they do is

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<v Speaker 1>take a word that is known and bends it into

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<v Speaker 1>a typical capture and takes another unknown word that has

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<v Speaker 1>been scanned from a book or some other means of

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 1>creating digital copies of hard copy works and assumes that

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you will get the unknown word correct if you get

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<v Speaker 1>the known word correct. It then takes the newly discovered

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<v Speaker 1>word and places that in the scanned book instead of

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<v Speaker 1>the unreadable by O c R mess. Also, that leads

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<v Speaker 1>into O c R which could be a pretty good topic.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. Thanks for a great podcast. Keep it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, I kind of wrote a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>this when I wrote how captures work. The The idea

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<v Speaker 1>is really interesting. Google does this a lot where it

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<v Speaker 1>actually crowd sources, uh your search when you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>search information within a hard copy. Um, so you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the scanned document, you're let's say that your search algorithm

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<v Speaker 1>cannot recognize the text within that scanned document because it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a picture, right. What you do is you pull.

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<v Speaker 1>It identifies that you know a section as being this

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<v Speaker 1>has got to be a word. Pulls that puts that

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<v Speaker 1>picture as part of the capture. When you identify both

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<v Speaker 1>the the known capture and the unknown one, it then

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<v Speaker 1>stores the information for the unknown one in a database.

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<v Speaker 1>As more and more people are confronted with that word,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks for the greatest number of people agreeing on

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<v Speaker 1>what that word is. Okay, let's say the word is

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<v Speaker 1>is trumpet, all right, and the people who are answering

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<v Speaker 1>this capture say it's trumpet and the other five percent

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<v Speaker 1>say it's something else. The program then says, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then chances are this word actually is trumpet. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>how it tags that that picture with the word trumpet

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<v Speaker 1>and makes it searchable within a scanned document. So yeah,

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