WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Don’t Forget About … 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.600 Following here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:16.319 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. Are you ready for 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:20.040 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:24.400 Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.720 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:34.480 well with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and bar Garcia 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:41.040 and Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, April twelfth, twenty twenty three, 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.519 Season nineteen, episode number two. Welcome to last edition of 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.360 The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:49.040 the Star. We're presented by Miller like the only Beer 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.120 of the Dallas Cowboys, and we got a lot of 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.599 things we're gonna talk about today. We're gonna start off 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:55.960 in our first segment talking a little bit about this, uh, 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.160 this title I'm gonna call the Forgotten Ones. There are 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:04.520 five players, actually more like seven players that I think, 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.959 in the course of free agency and getting ready for 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:11.679 the draft, have a little bit been forgotten. And I'm 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:13.760 gonna ask you guys some questions about like what is 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:15.760 their role on this team? Are they really forgotten or 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:17.800 are they guys that still could play prominent roles for 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.039 this team? Then we have a little bit of draft 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.280 talk we'll get into in the second segment, and then 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.679 I think we've got some questions from some fans rolling in. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:27.320 We got some from last week too that we didn't 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:29.360 get to, so we'll get some fan questions here in 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.600 the third segment as well. Nick's not in today, but 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.720 I got Brian Amber, So let's dive right in. Let's 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.440 start with this segment I called the Forgotten Ones. I'm 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.120 gonna throw out a name and then I want you 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.920 guys to tell me where do you think this player 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.280 stands on this team, after what's happened in free agency, 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.400 after how they've performed over the last year or multiple years, 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.400 where do they currently stand on this team, on this roster. 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:57.480 Let's start with your Brill Cox, Jabrill Cox. It's hard 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.720 for me because of my love for l show like 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.320 it's by the way, congrats the the national champions. Thank 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.280 you very much. I appreciate that, Thank you very much. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.240 We we we lost a lot of souls on the 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.799 way to get there. Evidently, you know, as I got 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.280 no problem with what he did. Yeah yeah, but these 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.840 uh I lost about four hundred followers that Twitter. But 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.079 if I can lose another one hundred and twenty five 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:22.639 thousand more, I'll be in great ship. But I think 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.160 with Jabril Cox and my love for LSU and I 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.720 talk about him and Clark and those guys, I want 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.800 those kids to play well. I want them to be 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.480 good players. I want them to come in and play 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.040 like they did when they played for my school there 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.640 in Baton Rouge and with Jabril Cox. Every time you 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:43.239 talk to somebody about Jabril Cox, it was a take 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.680 a step forward and then two steps back, and he 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:50.440 never was able to get any kind of traction. And 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.880 I felt like what happened in his first OTAs, his 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.680 first mini camps, his first he was out injury, didn't 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.359 get to participate. Now he's behind. Now he's trying to 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:04.320 play catchup. And I just kind of felt like that, 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.239 you know, the more you really dug in on him, 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.960 the more that you found that like, oh, maybe he's 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.680 just not getting it right now, but you need that 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:17.200 light bulb moment, and I don't think Jabril Cox has 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.960 had that light bulb moment. Now, George Edwards is no 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.920 longer the linebackers coach here. George Edwards is down in Tampa. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:29.000 Heint George is a damn good coach. I'm interested to 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.560 see what McCurley can do with him. McCurley has been 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.040 on staff, he was the linebackers coach and during the 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.560 Mike Nolan administration, and you know, was demoted or sent 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.080 down and then brought back up. So I'm seeing if 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.920 maybe a different voice in his ear, maybe something different. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:46.800 But I think the kid has got to come in 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.760 and he's got to put all this stuff behind him, 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:54.880 the injuries, the not sure of assignments, you know, making mistakes. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.080 You know, if you want to play in this league, 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.480 you know, coaches have to rely on you to go 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.560 out there and your job and not make mistakes. And 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.080 he you know, you're gonna have mistakes, but you can't 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.160 have him every play. And I think that's kind of 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.760 where he is right now, and that's why he's on 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:14.800 this forgotten list because he hasn't shown the consistency for 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:16.560 the coaches to want to put him out on the 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.600 field full time. Yeah. I was gonna say he is 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.760 perfect for this segment that you came up with, Derek, 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:26.400 but he is a guy that it's one of those 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.440 guys where you don't really have much to say and 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.280 that's not Sometimes it's a good thing when you got 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.400 a solid guy, but sometimes that's a bad thing because he, 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.599 just like Brian said, hasn't necessarily shown you a whole lot. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.960 But at the same time, he's kind of there and 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.360 you still have some hope that he can do something. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.760 It's not someone like right off the bat you're ready 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.200 to get rid of. But he's definitely a guy that 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:55.000 I think his spot is kind of it's definitely not secure. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.880 So this is gonna be a huge moment for him 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.960 at training camp to finally stay up up and start 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.280 showing what he's capable of. Obviously, he's not gonna move 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.800 out the top of the depth chart, but he's a 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.719 guy that could still even help out on special teams 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:14.200 and and and find a way to be able to um, 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.839 oh my godh sorry, my brain is switching to Spanish. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:23.040 What to um? What's the word? Just add something to 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:27.440 the team And yeah, he I think this is a 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.839 You're a very important time for him to kind of 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.880 step up. Otherwise I could see him as someone that 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.800 can definitely get cut. All right, let's let's move on 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.320 to Matt. Let's go a guy that go back to 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:42.200 training camp. Before he had the issue with the shoulder. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.560 I think it was uh, he was actually a guy 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:47.559 that I thought was kind of flashing. There were moments 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.200 where I watched him and was like, well, who's that 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.960 And it's like, wow, that was a pretty good rep right, 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.440 And I was starting to get to a point where 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.320 I was like they might have something in this guy. 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.960 And then obviously the injury and he's got you know, 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.599 he's got to have surgery and he's out civilization of 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.720 the shoulder that it was popping in and out on him. 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.920 It's what it was. Yeah, So the question becomes, now 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.400 does that ever get fixed? They did fix it. Yeah, 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.039 so they went in to fix it. Is that the 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.960 type of stuff like you still have to linger lingers? Yeah, 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:16.960 you deal with Yeah, it's a lingering thing. But they 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.280 go in there and they tighten it up. It's what 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.800 they do. And so essentially, yeah, I know Isaiah Standback 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.520 had a similar situation back when he was playing. I 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.560 think he was telling me about where he was having 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:31.359 that issue. But yeah, the question becomes, now where is 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.000 he where does he sit on this depth chart? You 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:36.279 got both smiths, you got steel, like you got three 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.960 tackles and you're trying to figure out where're gonna play 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.240 all of them. Where does Matt Let's Go fit? I 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.159 kind of feel like, though to me, if you said, 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:48.200 if you would have started your second player as Josh Ball, 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.159 well I've already assumed that Josh Ball is probably on 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.920 the end. Okay, Okay, okay, I don't know if you Okay, 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.400 if you put Josh Ball and Matt Will Let's go together, 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:01.280 huh okay, that's now where you get. Then the thing 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.400 with Josh Ball he came in, there was a lot 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.000 of controversy about him. Hey, they made the pick, they 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.800 did the due diligence. They're fine with that. That's how 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.400 they work. But if you watched him play, he wasn't 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.040 as good as he was when he was at Florida 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.080 State or it was at Marshall. He hasn't been that good. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.960 And I'm talking about Josh Ball here. The thing about 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.120 and you're absolutely right what you saw with Matt Will 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.240 Let's go in Oxnard, and you saw, like, man, well 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.600 this guy's kind of flashing a little bit. Matt Will 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.720 Let's go, gets hurt, goes away and comes back. They 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:33.720 heal him up. Britt Brown and those guys do a 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.240 great job of healing him up. They get him to 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:40.000 play basically in the last preseason game, and he looks 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:43.600 better than Josh Ball had looked all training camp. So 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.680 now you're going, whoa, whoa, Maybe they got something here. 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:51.200 To your point, I want to believe that Matt Will 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:54.440 Let's Go is in their plans. I'm with you about 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.960 Josh Ball. I think maybe that train has left the station. 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.680 But the thing with Let's Go, the only thing that 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.880 was really holding him back was that shoulder. Because there 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:07.400 were reps where in that final preseason game, I know 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.720 we'll call in the game with Brad Sham, Well, let's 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.840 goes in there and you know, we're setting the offensive 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.480 line and they're actually pass protecting and he's not given 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.360 up sacks and he's you know, it's like whoa, Okay, 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.920 and he and you're you're kind of thinking, man, if 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.000 he was just here all training camp, you know, would 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.840 he have been a guy that And I feel like 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.280 that he is a guy that that that they they 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.320 are really the old saying hanger hat on type of 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:36.360 a guy as possibly a swing at ninth or tenth guy. 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.960 Matt Will Let's Go kind of fits into that mold. Yeah, 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.680 really interested to see what he does this year a 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.520 training camp and how he progresses. When he came in, 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.600 he was a guy that I wasn't completely bought in. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.040 Was it the last name. You can pronounce the last name, 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.680 I can say his last name, But it was more 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.920 how tall he is, right, which can be good, but 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.520 you know sometimes no, you're not wrong. It could be 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.240 kind of awkward as far as the movements. But he 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.480 came in and you started seeing some of those flashy 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.520 moments where you're like, Okay, this guy can really do something. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.559 Unfortunately he had the injury, but because of those moments, 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:18.360 and I think he can use his height and his 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:22.040 size to his advantage, and he has shown the ability 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.640 to be able to move properly and not necessarily look 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:29.480 completely off and awkward. So I still think he has 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:34.000 a chance to contribute on the team. We still have 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:35.920 this whole debate on like what's going to happen with 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.679 the starters at the tackle position. You're still trying to 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.480 figure that out. But given the history of injuries and 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.840 everything like that, I think he's a guy that wouldn't 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.480 necessarily give you a whole lot throughout the season. But 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:52.960 in cases of emergency, if he doesn't have a setback 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.720 with the injury again and some or something else, he 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.920 can still be a plugging guy that can go in 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.559 there and just be that type of band aid to 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.439 help you, oh what need it. That's why she's won 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.120 Sports Emmy's Oh my God, because that's a that's a 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.640 really good point because sometimes you have guys that are 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.560 tall and they don't play with knee bend, and they 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.280 don't and they get overpowered and they look bad because 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.160 they're given up they're given up pressure, so they're not 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.280 able to get any movement in the running game. For 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.840 a tall guy, he does play with kneebend, you know, 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.600 and that's something you know, the athletic ability and stuff. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.839 But that's an excellent point on her, Like sometimes you 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.839 see these really tall, awkward looking tackles that are young 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.120 and they're not strong enough, and they just kind of 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.480 go by the wayside because they never are able to 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.400 develop any knee bend or any power. Well, let's go 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.560 as the guy that kind of is against that. He's 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.480 he's proven it. Well, maybe some tall guys can bend 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.720 and can't play with a little power. All right, let's 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.120 move on, let's talk about the cornerback position. There are 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.280 three names I think we should talk about here. The 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.600 most important, in my opinion, is Jordan Lewis because he 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.760 is a veteran. He is a guy I think is 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.439 a really good player. He's also a guy's coming off 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.520 an injury and obviously cost more money than some of 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.080 the younger guys. Then also have to throw in guys 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:05.240 like Nashan Wright and Kelvin Joseph who are draft picks 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.120 of the Cowboys. You would have expected by now they 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.400 would start making a move to to kind of if 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.360 they're going to make a move to get into that 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.520 that mix of the starters, Cowboys decided they do opt 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.840 to go and trade for a starter. Where does that 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:19.920 leave all three of these guys? You got a thought there, 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:24.760 ag Well, Jordan Lewis is an interesting one because I'm 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:29.079 a fan. I completely love the guy. I completely love 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.520 the way he's been able to stay on the team 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.480 despite all the setbacks. We go back to, uh, what 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:40.120 was his name? The coach I'm blanking out shard back 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:45.439 in the day were Chris Richard were he wasn't um 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:52.760 necessarily the prototype that he was looking for. Lean type 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.400 of player, so but he was. That's actually this current 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:59.079 staff like they But but that's the thing, Chris was 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.040 the first one on that. She's right about that, where 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.880 he wasn't the type of guy that he preferred exactly exactly, 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.760 but yet he still managed to stay on the team 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.920 and find a spot on there. And he's been one 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.160 of those guys that year after year he's kind of 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:14.880 stayed on but at the same time, he's just had 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.920 setbacks and then with the injury was unfortunate. But you've 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.160 seen so many flashes of him where he's been good. 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.960 He's fast, he can get to the ball. We've seen 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.400 so many times where he either makes an interception or 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.480 it's right there by the ball. So it's hard for 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.839 me to just completely forget about him and move from him. 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.880 So I'm just hoping that this year he can come 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.880 back from the injury. And you know, you always need 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.640 corners and we've seen it last year, so I just 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.360 a lot, yes, exactly, So I just hope he's ready 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:52.160 and can manage to keep himself on the team and 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.880 just again contribute on the team. I think he's very 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:59.320 much capable of doing so, despite guys like Nashan Ry 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.800 that you talk about the length and the prototype and 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.160 a lot and you mentioned Kelvin Joseph on there on 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.800 that list. I mean, what's your famite one of one 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:11.559 of your famous quotes, Brian bye bye bye bye bye. 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.960 You know I think that to me. Where uh you 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:16.960 must have been listening to our radio show yesterday one 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.760 to five three because we had this discussion and we 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.960 were buying Joseph or no on on because we start 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:25.199 talking about players because of money, okay, And Jordan Lewis 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.720 was a four million dollar player, and you know, Stephen 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.920 Jones can say four million dollars if and I and 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.120 every one of these guys, I don't know. Steve will 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.240 probably move on. And I'm like, I'm thinking of the 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.320 times he played against Alvin Kamara and you know, and 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.320 the thing with the thing with with Jordan Lewis is 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.440 You're right about you need corners, you need experienced corners, 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.360 You need guys that are flexible in a couple of 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.360 different ways. I have a hard time getting rid of 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:53.280 Jordan Lewis because I know I watched Jordan Lewis play it, 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.960 and it appears the game is important to him. You know, 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.960 I want as many where sometimes the game doesn't appear 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.280 really important to Kelvin Joseph. Where Kelvin Joseph has got 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.640 a shot on this team is they're going to continue 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.040 to use him and try and develop him as a 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.000 corner that's Dan Quinn. That's dan Quinn standing on a 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.720 table for a guy. That's dan Quinn going to Lexington, 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.280 Kentucky and working out a player and saying that's a 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.920 second round player in my eyes. So Dan's going to 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.240 continue to try and work with him. So you don't 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.720 think they have given up at all. I don't think 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.000 it's development. Maybe on the may we'll see on the 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:28.600 cornerback side, but the fact that you've lost, you lost 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:34.960 Noah Brown and you lost Luke Keikley look different. Yeah, 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:39.280 we should never do different, look Difford. But once you 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.760 you know, and they'll talk about him as being one 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.000 of your better special teams players. And I have a 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.280 feeling that bones Fossil will say, listen, I know he 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:50.400 can't play cornerback, but I need him to cover and 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.200 I need him to do this, and I need him 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.640 to do that that if if the things don't work 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:58.880 out on the cornerback side, that he automatically just becomes 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.320 a special team teas core guy only, and see if 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:03.920 he makes the team that way. Yeah. The thing I 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.600 love about Jordan Lewis is he is tough minded, and 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.040 that's I think you can't have too many tough minded 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.640 guys in football on your team in your locker room, 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:14.600 and I think that matters. One of the guy I 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.280 want to get to before we get to our first break, 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.440 Sam Williams. Sam Williams is a guy that's unique because 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.520 he was a second round pick and talk about flashing, 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:26.160 like he flashed a lot last season, but they're also 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.840 moments when they just didn't play him for whatever reason 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.160 and and well, yeah, there was a car wreck, there 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.360 was all that, right, But then it starts to make 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.040 you wonder, like, are they seeing something that's a little 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.160 different than we've seen or was that just a matter 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.600 of it was his first year, they were acclimating him, 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:42.960 They didn't really need to use him. They got a 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.480 ton of pass rushers, And could this be a year 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.320 when maybe you see that next step for Sam Williams 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.080 where he really asserts himself to the point where he 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:55.920 becomes your starter opposite DeMarcus Lawrence, or maybe takes de 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.720 Marcus Lawrence's position at whatever point they decided to move 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:00.400 on from DeMarcus Lawrence. I don't think he said a 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.520 crossroads yet, but I feel like you're absolutely right that. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.880 And if you go back and you listen to how 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.040 he was drafted and again a dan Quinn go to Oxford, 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.440 Mississippi and go and work out Sam Williams and you know, 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:17.320 you know, talk about him. They come down to Tilburt 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.840 and Williams for second round. Jerry Jones, as a general manager, 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.640 steps up and says, we're not taking Tilbert, We're taking 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.680 Williams hand the card in let's go. You know, that's 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.480 that's the decision was made. I mean they had a 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.000 discussion about what Williams be there, and they're like, no, 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.200 I don't think you know, that's the discussion. They thought 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.880 enough of this guy to do that. Again, dan Quinn 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.840 going and doing the workout. I think he got caught 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.560 up a little bit of the season was too long 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.640 for him. The NFL season was too long for him. 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.720 You know, when he's playing in Oxford, Mississippi, there it'll 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.800 miss he might be playing twelve games. I think the season, 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:53.600 you know, we started it like he got in I 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.000 mentioned I was saying the car accident and stuff like that, 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.840 and now there were things that probably were like keeping 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.920 him from being exact actually the most focused player that 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.800 he needed to be. This is an important year because 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.400 we've seen now the Cowboys willingness to move on from 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.680 veteran players if the money means moving on, whether it's 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.800 Ezekiel Elliott and others they redid Tyrann Smith. I think 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.800 DeMarcus Lawrence is in that same boat next year, where 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:22.080 they see where he's at physically, they see where he's 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:26.040 at financially. You're going to need Sam Williams to step 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:30.320 up and be that guy and potentially have that ability 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.959 to say, Okay, we're going to move on from Lawrence 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:35.560 if he doesn't. If he doesn't do that, now the 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.840 questions about Sam Williams, and then you know, Lawrence continues 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.080 on with what he's doing, and I think he can 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:44.439 definitely step up and do what he needs to do. 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.560 I was very impressed with how he took advantage of 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.879 the opportunities given to him and the fact that he 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.879 didn't have too many hiccups. I mean, he got thrown 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:56.560 out there and he did what he needed to do. 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.480 He performed the personal foul penalties. You're like, come on, 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:04.960 bro okay too much? Okay, Yeah, you appreciate the play, Yeah, 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.160 you appreciate you know, but be a little smarter about 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:12.080 how you're playing. True, which I guess um hopefully comes 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.240 with the experience that where year two you learn from that. 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.680 But as far as like the other things, the good 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:19.240 things that he was able to do, where we've seen 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.960 it when you throw guys out there, another guy that 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.000 goes hand in hand, I think with him, even though 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:29.000 he did a lot better, was their own bland. He 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.800 got thrown in there and was able to perform as well. 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.000 So a guy like Sam will not to talk to 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:35.199 what you say, But what are you gonna do with 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.240 Jordan Lewis? You got bland that could play in the 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:42.040 He's making that conversations. He put Jordan Lewis in the 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.840 category of Derek's what about these guys? Yeah exactly right, Yeah, 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:47.520 but um, I know we got to go to break. 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.560 But but I think Sam Williams uh definitely a guy 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.399 to look for in training camp and see what he 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.639 what kind of step he does in year two. But 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.000 I think he can he can definitely give you something 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.720 better this year. All right, we take our first break, 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:02.240 we'll come back. We're want to talk a little draft. 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.120 Got some questions for these guys. Will day in a minute. 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.200 This is Dallas Cowboys dot com. REDEO. Todd thought it 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.720 would be secure to jog in the cheetah Savanna. 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