Speaker 1: Okay. Podcast starts now. Hello all and welcome to Stradio lab. Um.
Speaker 1: I have nothing incredible to say after that. I've been
Speaker 1: critiqued to hell for my rifts up top, so so
Speaker 1: now I'm so self conscious that I can't speak. Um. Wait,
Speaker 1: I was let I was intentionally because I have been
Speaker 1: critical in the past, letting you, letting you do your intro.
Speaker 1: Do you see how damaged we both are? You know? No,
Speaker 1: we are both essentially trauma. We both have PTSD from
Speaker 1: our own from living in our own bodies, from our
Speaker 1: own intro section of our podcast specifically, um, which you know,
Speaker 1: it's so sad to see that happen in real time.
Speaker 1: I know people can go back to the early apps
Speaker 1: and hear us bold, you know, unencumbered, self confident, and
Speaker 1: now they'll come and they'll just hear the blank, dead
Speaker 1: air of our trauma. Well, I'm just like, what more
Speaker 1: is there to say? I do think often, Oh, you're
Speaker 1: having one of those weeks. No, no, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: here's what I struggle with, and this is you know, uh,
Speaker 1: once again our favorite behind the scenes moment talking about
Speaker 1: the podcast want to past? Yes, I'm like, who is
Speaker 1: is am I speaking? To a listener that has been
Speaker 1: listening the whole time, so they like get every little
Speaker 1: reference and like totally get what we're um, you know,
Speaker 1: like sorry, I'll cut the like no, keep the like
Speaker 1: it's honest, it's raw. Okay, fine. Am I talking to
Speaker 1: like a long time listener where I don't have to
Speaker 1: be self conscious if I sound stupid because they know
Speaker 1: that that sometimes we sound stupid. Am I talk to?
Speaker 1: When you listener, I have to win over? Am I
Speaker 1: talking to Let's say, a listener who has only listened
Speaker 1: to like the three most high profile guests who have
Speaker 1: ever had and is now, um, is now like okay,
Speaker 1: I like this podcast, babe, I'll start listening weekly and
Speaker 1: suddenly I immediately alienate them by literally exactly what I'm
Speaker 1: doing now, for instance. So I think that is That
Speaker 1: is why in the beginning it was so clear. It
Speaker 1: was like we were introducing ourselves, whereas now it's like,
Speaker 1: m what is this? Yeah, No, I think that's really smart.
Speaker 1: I tend to lean on the side of, you know,
Speaker 1: assume they know, just because it's it's out there, and
Speaker 1: you know, if they don't know, that's on them, not
Speaker 1: on me. Um. If you know you know, and many
Speaker 1: are saying that, and so I feel like that is
Speaker 1: the approach I take. And if they feel like doing
Speaker 1: the work and doing the research, they can go back
Speaker 1: and and if they're new listener, I think the confidence
Speaker 1: of saying we know who we are and we don't
Speaker 1: need to introduce ourselves to you that um. I mean,
Speaker 1: it would be crazy if like you know, Ellen or
Speaker 1: Larry King or Oprah got on their chair every day
Speaker 1: and reintroduced themselves to their entire audience. And we're kind
Speaker 1: of like, so like the way the show is kind
Speaker 1: of gonna work is like I'm gonna have some guests
Speaker 1: and like sometimes it's serious, sometimes it's funny, like something
Speaker 1: like yeah, and like you know, I am Oprah. I mean,
Speaker 1: I do love that. I think Oprah should start every
Speaker 1: show with like, so I'm Oprah. I was like big
Speaker 1: for a while, Like so I was small for a while,
Speaker 1: like in Chicago, and then well then I was really
Speaker 1: big and and then I kind of stepped away from
Speaker 1: it because we like too much. And now I'm just
Speaker 1: sort of like it's sort of an if you know,
Speaker 1: you know type of thing. I guess, right, And then
Speaker 1: she's like I'm in my garden. That's kind of you know,
Speaker 1: it's like kind of part of my thing is that
Speaker 1: I like grow vegetables, but it's not it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like a big deal, like I don't alienate anyone,
Speaker 1: but I do grow vegetables and this is a giant tomato.
Speaker 1: But you know, anyway, our guest is, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Mohammed been someone that would be cool. I think for Oprah,
Speaker 1: I think that'd be cool if she suddenly switched to
Speaker 1: the cadence of a comedy podcaster. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of them could benefit from that. I think Ellen that
Speaker 1: would have saved Ellen if she had, you know, shifted
Speaker 1: to sort of like radical transparency and not not an apology,
Speaker 1: but sort of like, um, I guess my deal is like, um,
Speaker 1: I'm well, I'm like funny, but I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're like a comedian and then you're trying into
Speaker 1: like a multi millionaire, you're kind of become crazy, and
Speaker 1: so I guess that's kind of where I'm at right now.
Speaker 1: Does that make any sense? And then she's always like
Speaker 1: talking to her audiences like, am I being crazy right now?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys, this is so embarrassing. I mean,
Speaker 1: that would be the most humanizing thing in the whole
Speaker 1: wide world. Who is the But here's the thing though,
Speaker 1: then people who do do that, who are famous, are like, well,
Speaker 1: you can Chrissy te again and you can fake it.
Speaker 1: I think Chrissy can fakes it, and I think, like,
Speaker 1: you know, Jennifer Lawrence used to fake it a little bit,
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence. Well, that's the thing you can't. And this
Speaker 1: is why celebrities are the most oppressed people is because
Speaker 1: you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. If
Speaker 1: you accept that you're glamorous movie star and act as such,
Speaker 1: then you are alienating and if you try to be
Speaker 1: relatable then everyone wants to actually murder you on the street. Well,
Speaker 1: and I think the whole point is that one, if
Speaker 1: you're faking humble and normal, you deserve to be murdered
Speaker 1: on the street. There I said it. I'm using my
Speaker 1: platform for good. Um. I do think the best thing
Speaker 1: if you're a celebrity and you're seeking, you know, how
Speaker 1: do I interact with the world. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: sort of like just be sincere and not project sincerity,
Speaker 1: just like sort of do what you want to do.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, So who does that? In
Speaker 1: your opinion? Well, and I have an answer, actually, Ben Affleck,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess is that intentional? Though? I think
Speaker 1: he just lives his life in his photographs. That's what
Speaker 1: I mean. I think that's the way to do it.
Speaker 1: You just have to sort of do what you're gonna
Speaker 1: do and assume that photos be taken. Oh sure, sure,
Speaker 1: but I guess I mean, like, yeah, so you're just
Speaker 1: rejecting the idea of a curated personal back together. You're like,
Speaker 1: no one should So you think no celebrities should have podcast,
Speaker 1: No celebrities should have talk show. No, you're you're taking
Speaker 1: you're twisting my words. You're using my words against me
Speaker 1: in a way that I'm not. But like, would you
Speaker 1: like it if Ben Affleck had his exact personality and
Speaker 1: had a talk show and his whole thing was like
Speaker 1: he was kind of drunk and like eating munchkins. I mean,
Speaker 1: and then like, I mean, I guess what comment he'd
Speaker 1: be like do you want I got an extra iced coffee?
Speaker 1: That would actually change the entire talk show format? And
Speaker 1: I think, actually, would it like be really nice? I
Speaker 1: have to fully one, like you set that up as
Speaker 1: like this is an insane thing that you're supposed to
Speaker 1: like recoil at and you're saying, and I'm like this,
Speaker 1: actually he works. No, I actually think ben Affleck should
Speaker 1: replace Ellen done. I mean it would be a because
Speaker 1: that is like every day he would sort of be like,
Speaker 1: well here's like. It wouldn't be like, so do you
Speaker 1: hear about this Trump guy. It would be like it
Speaker 1: would be more like, um, I today don't feel like
Speaker 1: doing anything and I don't really know why. And it
Speaker 1: would and it would be like mmm, okay, now I'm listening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then j Lo is in the audience. She does.
Speaker 1: She leaves the dancing kind of a way. It just
Speaker 1: covered in Sarobski crystals, pouring champagne for the guests, pouring champagne.
Speaker 1: And you can blame her, she supports, who can blame whoever.
Speaker 1: I'll say this, and I've said it before and I'm
Speaker 1: not the first to say it. They both look the
Speaker 1: best they've ever looked. They both the ben Affleck looks
Speaker 1: the best he's ever looked. Okay, I'll take it. I'll
Speaker 1: say a heart agree great. I'm I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: really want to get into it, but the way that celebrities.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to like notice more how celebrities age and
Speaker 1: like a not chill way where I'm like, wait, what
Speaker 1: are they doing? Are you talking about the friends reunion? Um? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not, because you know, I'm not a friend's stand
Speaker 1: as as we okay, okay, and we don't and actually
Speaker 1: we don't have to because that would be cruel. But
Speaker 1: that let's just say, my eyes popped out of my
Speaker 1: skull when I saw the trailer for it? Is it rough? Well,
Speaker 1: the women look great and the men not so much.
Speaker 1: But isn't that like men are like supposed to not
Speaker 1: look Okay? Once again, I don't I support men and
Speaker 1: I don't want to I and I support them more
Speaker 1: than women. But but I think there's a certain noncommittal
Speaker 1: I think. I think women in Hollywood are so just
Speaker 1: just so completely uh what's the word um attacked, Like
Speaker 1: so so in a bind that there's no way like
Speaker 1: they essentially have to constantly be doing procedures in order
Speaker 1: to maintain in order to like project that they're even human,
Speaker 1: whereas men, I think half act in a way like
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of what a lot
Speaker 1: of men who who age weirdly in Hollywood. It's because
Speaker 1: it's not it's not this thing that they're committed to
Speaker 1: seven like the women are. They're just kind of like
Speaker 1: letting themselves go. And then they're like, well, I guess
Speaker 1: I'll have like a you know, I guess I'll like
Speaker 1: stretch out my cheeks a little bit, and then it
Speaker 1: looked weird. You know, this is I think this goes
Speaker 1: back actually to the earlier conversation about like projecting a
Speaker 1: certain self, where like I think women obviously have it
Speaker 1: insanely harder and have to like look until they're seventy um,
Speaker 1: but at least the assignment is clear. For men, it's
Speaker 1: like like you have to be like, well, I don't
Speaker 1: care actually how I look, but I have to look
Speaker 1: kind of good the whole time, and I have to
Speaker 1: like project a weird like casual effortless like aging man,
Speaker 1: and it's like, what is that. Well, it's also like,
Speaker 1: I mean, much like with women, when it looks like
Speaker 1: they are trying too hard, it's uncool with men if
Speaker 1: they're trying to hard. It also it's like emasculating because
Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, oh, you so clearly got a facelift. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you what? Are you gay? Yeah? You seem
Speaker 1: gay because of your hot ass type facelift. Um. Now,
Speaker 1: our next guest has gotten so much cosmetic surgery that
Speaker 1: she's pretty much unrecognizable. Yeah, she her former self is gone,
Speaker 1: but the new hair is snatched for the damn gods.
Speaker 1: She really is snatched for the gods. So please, um,
Speaker 1: you know, put your paws up for the one in
Speaker 1: a Francesca. Whoa, whoa, who come on, come on, Frantise,
Speaker 1: come on, coming in like a fire truck. Hello. Hello.
Speaker 1: Before we started, I was feeling I feel a little bit,
Speaker 1: uh like shy and quiet. Usually it's kind of my
Speaker 1: big thing that I tell people when I'm drunk, and
Speaker 1: you are drunk right now, Just to be clear, I'm not.
Speaker 1: It's one thirty. You guys didn't mention that. Actually, oh
Speaker 1: that's right. We were literally going to talk about how
Speaker 1: we're recording the earliest we've ever recorded it essentially morning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we are tired, we are waking up. I'm literally having
Speaker 1: a coffee. I mean yeah, this is a morning episode. Okay,
Speaker 1: So wait, Francisco, what were you saying? Oh I was
Speaker 1: going to say that, Um, sometimes I have a hard
Speaker 1: time bringing the energy immediately. So something I did on
Speaker 1: stage was like I would force myself to go out
Speaker 1: going like and it would kind of bring me up
Speaker 1: inside the comedians I did today. Wait, here's a very
Speaker 1: kind of radio lab question. Where do you stand on
Speaker 1: introvert versus extrovert discourse? That's an interesting question because for
Speaker 1: a while I really resented the fact that everyone was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're an extrovert, Like, to me, that's a disc right, Oh,
Speaker 1: people would say that you're an extract. Well, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's coded to be like you're dumb people to like,
Speaker 1: if you're saying you're shot, if you're saying you see
Speaker 1: yourself as shy and that you have stage right and stuff,
Speaker 1: that maybe makes me think, oh, you're an introvert. Totally totally.
Speaker 1: I think that it's like one of those things of
Speaker 1: like shyness, isn't introversion which a lot of people don't write,
Speaker 1: isn't that a thing? Totally? Like? I mean, I in
Speaker 1: my mind, okay, I can't now I'm like earnestly talking
Speaker 1: about and my mind is like you get energy from
Speaker 1: being alone, and extroverts you get energy from other people,
Speaker 1: right right, right? I think I'm half in half, I
Speaker 1: would fully agree. I think I'm verse yes over yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say I'm an extrovert if I can choose
Speaker 1: hand pick the people. M and and you know what
Speaker 1: I've been having recently as the world opens up? How
Speaker 1: many times take a shot every time someone says when
Speaker 1: the world opens up, um um. I've like I can
Speaker 1: hang out with people for like three hours. But then
Speaker 1: I started to get like really tired all of a
Speaker 1: sudden in a way that I can't It is very
Speaker 1: new and I don't know what become introverted. And I
Speaker 1: literally can't like talk anymore, like I'll just sort of
Speaker 1: like run out of stuff. I feel your body feels
Speaker 1: tired here. My body feels tired. My eyes like I
Speaker 1: feel myself starting to like get droopy, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I like start yawning, and I'm like, I gotta get
Speaker 1: out of here before I like fall asleep at this
Speaker 1: gathering this park hang like and it was weird. I
Speaker 1: went to shout out Amy Zimmer's um park day hanging.
Speaker 1: George was there. I was invited, but I didn't go.
Speaker 1: I just want to I of I love purposefully disrespecting
Speaker 1: our one friend Nam is, and why didn't you go?
Speaker 1: Did you think it was not worth it or well,
Speaker 1: I was actually taking care of my grandpa, New Jersey. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well so yeah, my family's had a hard year and
Speaker 1: you and you Okay, so you're choosing family over chosen family.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, blood is thick, So you're straight kind
Speaker 1: of antiquier in ways that in that way, I am
Speaker 1: actually and that you care about your family, yeah, and
Speaker 1: that I love my family and I don't have a
Speaker 1: chosen family, have a chosen family. As you were invited
Speaker 1: to Amy's part, I mean, I'm sure she won't be
Speaker 1: inviting you in the future after you disrespected her in
Speaker 1: this way. I think I want to clear for that.
Speaker 1: I said that because I think I don't want the
Speaker 1: audience to be like, oh, this is awkward. These people
Speaker 1: went to this birthday party that the guest wasn't even
Speaker 1: invited to, but I was, and now suddenly it's about you. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I love that you gave us permission to always fully
Speaker 1: talk about the party and not have to couch it
Speaker 1: and like sorry, sorry, sorry, right right right, yeah, so
Speaker 1: go ahead. Um, So, anyway, I was having a blast,
Speaker 1: I was having fun and then you know, around three
Speaker 1: hours in, I'm talking to a friend and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I I do have to go, and running out of
Speaker 1: things to talk about. But I but it's weird because
Speaker 1: you can't be like I'm tired because it's like five pm.
Speaker 1: But that's kind of what I was like. I did
Speaker 1: say like, I think I'm gonna go because I'm tired,
Speaker 1: and then and then I felt kind of crazy. I
Speaker 1: did feel you, And I don't want to make you
Speaker 1: more aware of this than you you are, but it
Speaker 1: did feel sudden when you just like we're like and
Speaker 1: I'm done, got up and just biked away. I really
Speaker 1: was crashing and it was so I don't get it,
Speaker 1: but it happened. And I'm also I'm a real like
Speaker 1: late hanger. I love to stay till the end, and
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to maybe challenge that in myself and
Speaker 1: be like, well, why do you have to stay till
Speaker 1: the end? Like maybe just get up and go. No
Speaker 1: one cares, It's fine. That's interesting because I feel like
Speaker 1: a party that is at like two o'clock, you could
Speaker 1: stay till the end if it goes to like eight o'clock.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that you choose a daytime event to leave
Speaker 1: or like kind of before you want. And interestingly I
Speaker 1: did stay until the very end. Really, please tell me
Speaker 1: what time did it go. It went until I would
Speaker 1: say like seven maybe six, So I literally left like
Speaker 1: thirty minutes before the end. Uh yeah, I mean to me,
Speaker 1: it was another after you left, I mean, doors opened up.
Speaker 1: It was a completely different thing. People could talk about
Speaker 1: things they couldn't talk about when you were there. Of everyone,
Speaker 1: I would say, kind of exhaled. People were doing folk
Speaker 1: dances while music. George, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: That thing that happens when I know, I know he
Speaker 1: will know my definition. He can't know what it's like it,
Speaker 1: but everyone does talk. Well, I don't know what it's like.
Speaker 1: I'm not there, but I do know that there's a
Speaker 1: culture of fear when I am there. Yes, and yes,
Speaker 1: we'll imagine the opposite of that. Yeah, it's hard for
Speaker 1: me to imagine it, but I can see it. No,
Speaker 1: everyone was doing In fact, dance is much like that
Speaker 1: famous Matisse painting where their arms are kind of it
Speaker 1: became Midsummer kind movie. It's very It was actually exactly
Speaker 1: like Midsummer. Someone was murdered, well, someone was sacrifice as
Speaker 1: they should be, as they should be. A god, Francesco.
Speaker 1: Once again, we're not letting our guests speak, and I'm
Speaker 1: sorry about that. I'm sorry we're silencing you a queer woman. Wait,
Speaker 1: what did you just call me? Wow? I was scary, Actually,
Speaker 1: like I was scary. I saw the fear in your
Speaker 1: eyem Really sorry, I'm really sorry. Yeah that's not okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well, what I was going to say
Speaker 1: was I forget what I was going to say, something
Speaker 1: about seeing George at an event on at a different birthday,
Speaker 1: and I just want to make the record clear I
Speaker 1: was invited to that event. I just did. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: the symmetry. I mean, I'm the only loser going to
Speaker 1: every every time I get an invite, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be there, George. You're a little overexposed really at everything.
Speaker 1: The other day, I was planning something, just a very
Speaker 1: simple drinks with a college friend and I was like acting.
Speaker 1: I was like, should we invite so and so, who
Speaker 1: I know from a different part of my life, you
Speaker 1: would love them? And I ended up trying to invite
Speaker 1: like four people and it's like, just calm down, I
Speaker 1: really do that. I really can relate to that. And
Speaker 1: it's always a mistake. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: It's like self sabotage. It's like not wanting to have
Speaker 1: a good Jome. I think it's optimistic too. You're like,
Speaker 1: why can't these people all get along? Like right? It's
Speaker 1: stress It always always stressful. Yeah, we'll wait. Francesca, how
Speaker 1: was seeing George at that party? I felt like you
Speaker 1: had a Oh no, I was just I remember what
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I was gonna say I told
Speaker 1: George because I actually had not really met George before that,
Speaker 1: before this past Sunday um and I did say I'm
Speaker 1: going to be on your podcast, and I haven't been
Speaker 1: on that many podcasts, and I have this feeling like
Speaker 1: I don't have the gift of other podcast guests where
Speaker 1: you can just I can just kind of like talk
Speaker 1: for an indefinite amount of time about anything and like
Speaker 1: be so happy to be talking about it, or like,
Speaker 1: I don't you know what I'm like that that kind
Speaker 1: of like yes, yes, yes, yes, oh my god, and
Speaker 1: then yes, yes, yes I do know. We are both
Speaker 1: were on cocaine, right, And that wasn't a dish to
Speaker 1: you guys. It was more of a guess, not the host.
Speaker 1: It's like a different energy, but you're I think a
Speaker 1: different energy is like you know, and sort of in
Speaker 1: the same way. When we started this podcast as podcast host,
Speaker 1: we were sort of like, well, we're not the typical
Speaker 1: podcast host. I don't feel I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: we are very different from each other. We are um,
Speaker 1: you know, we're not going for like sort of the
Speaker 1: best friend thing. We are in kinrect coworkers and I
Speaker 1: like to keep our distance and stop talking. Stop talking,
Speaker 1: you're digging yourself in a hole. But you know, then
Speaker 1: we found that um doing something a little different was
Speaker 1: actually kind of fun. M Georgia was And that's so
Speaker 1: difficult to prevent because you know, naturally, you'd think two
Speaker 1: people would get closer, um and have more intimacy when
Speaker 1: they're working together every week for over a year. But
Speaker 1: we've done such a good job of maintaining an emotional distance,
Speaker 1: and in fact, you know, at Amy Zimmer's birthday party,
Speaker 1: shot out to Amy Zimmer, George took a real long
Speaker 1: time to get over to say hi to me. I actually,
Speaker 1: did you know what I was thinking about? And maybe
Speaker 1: I'll save this for our next earnestness bonanza. But I
Speaker 1: did have a feeling where I was like, it feels nice,
Speaker 1: too sorry to do this, but almost like a family
Speaker 1: member to not feel the need, like when we're in
Speaker 1: the same space to I no longer feel the need
Speaker 1: to like perform in anyway or like essentially acknowledgeing, essentially
Speaker 1: walk over. Do you know what I mean? I was like,
Speaker 1: it's beautifully, it's kind of very liberating and nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It's funny. It's also funny just in Pandemic
Speaker 1: and Frantisca. I'm so sorry that we are talking about ourselves. Um,
Speaker 1: but I haven't. I haven't talked to either of you
Speaker 1: in like a year, so I'm happy to can see
Speaker 1: This is what I mean about us being bad podcast
Speaker 1: host but it's kind of fun sometimes. But this is
Speaker 1: the Ben Afflete different. It's different, but it's funny also
Speaker 1: seeing you, George, because it's like I haven't like a
Speaker 1: lot of these people I have not spoken to, like
Speaker 1: maybe I've spoken to them once in the last year
Speaker 1: and two months, and it's like we've spoken every week
Speaker 1: for like the whole time, and it's so funny that
Speaker 1: we like know so much about each other and can
Speaker 1: just sort of like yeah, yeah, yeah, I get what
Speaker 1: your deal is. I'm gonna talk to these people. It's
Speaker 1: also like I am never gonna act like I am
Speaker 1: never going to ask you at an in person event
Speaker 1: what's up? Like I literally know everything happening in your life,
Speaker 1: so we can we can talk about like something, we
Speaker 1: can talk about a topic, but we're never going to
Speaker 1: be catching up no god, which is like, which is
Speaker 1: how every conversation starts. So when you don't have that excuse,
Speaker 1: you then have to be like, Okay, well what do
Speaker 1: you think about this topic? We are not afforded the
Speaker 1: luxury of asking each other what's up. It's actually very
Speaker 1: difficult and really hard. And also this brings me to
Speaker 1: I think my next question is, so Francesco, what's up? Well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna say that. I feel
Speaker 1: like that is a common U kind of quarantine side
Speaker 1: effect of like people kind of becoming friends with like
Speaker 1: mostly just one or two people, and a lot of
Speaker 1: time it's like people that live near you and it's like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, actually I know you so well by the
Speaker 1: end of this year, and like I don't know exactly
Speaker 1: what I'm getting at of just like I don't really
Speaker 1: think that existed before this year really in the same way,
Speaker 1: because it's not like they're my best friends, but they're
Speaker 1: the only people that I hang out sure, like bringing
Speaker 1: friends of convenience to like the highest degree, Like it's
Speaker 1: just like yeah, but but I do. Yeah, they are
Speaker 1: my best friends, but not before this year. I went
Speaker 1: to the beach yesterday and he and I was like,
Speaker 1: when is he going to bring it up? In fact,
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, don't be mad at me, but
Speaker 1: I was like, I thought that's that was going to
Speaker 1: be like the big topic of the day. And I
Speaker 1: was almost preemptively like, have we talked too much about
Speaker 1: like how excited we are about the cliff Girl summer
Speaker 1: that now it's like anticlimactic for you to talk about
Speaker 1: going to the beach, you know what I mean? Well,
Speaker 1: so you were censoring me before I even got the
Speaker 1: chance to It has been on my mind this whole time.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't believe it's been on your
Speaker 1: mind this whole time. And apparently Francesco saw the pictures
Speaker 1: as well, so you know she's been thinking about it. Well,
Speaker 1: I could tell there was something on your mind. I
Speaker 1: didn't know exactly what, but there was something like, what
Speaker 1: are you not saying? You know? It felt like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, like a little closeted kid in class, but
Speaker 1: clearly except your secret that you went to the beach. Right. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: I guess I just didn't want to upset you know
Speaker 1: you guys, because I know you both also want to
Speaker 1: go to the beach someday. Can I Can I say
Speaker 1: I saw the picture and I was this close. I
Speaker 1: might have even started typing it, but I didn't. I
Speaker 1: almost typed, Hey, hey, I have work off some week days.
Speaker 1: Let me know. There's something to the effect of like,
Speaker 1: I have a car, we could go to the beach
Speaker 1: together if you want that. But no pressure is not
Speaker 1: a weird message at all, and I would have loved it.
Speaker 1: Can I say? I have been recently doing so much
Speaker 1: of that of like basically starting a reply or comment
Speaker 1: as though I'm a mom, Like just so often I
Speaker 1: want to just comment on something online and just be
Speaker 1: like I was thinking of you the other day, hope
Speaker 1: you're well, like truly, and I have almost done that
Speaker 1: like upwards of seven times in the last month, and
Speaker 1: then I always like no, like rein it in but
Speaker 1: it's like, why not? Oh, I say, go full mom,
Speaker 1: live it up. I And I've also been like I'm
Speaker 1: for this week. In particular, I've made potential plans with
Speaker 1: four million people, all of which I've not followed up on.
Speaker 1: But truly, every time I see someone and it's a
Speaker 1: sincere feeling, I'm like, we should go to hear like
Speaker 1: that would be so fun, But I just, um, don't
Speaker 1: have to follow through. Should we do our first second?
Speaker 1: I actually think we should? Okay, um, Francesco. Our first
Speaker 1: second is called straight Shooters, and we ask you a
Speaker 1: series of rap fire questions in order to gauge your
Speaker 1: familiarity with straight culture. Basically, it's an airb question and
Speaker 1: it means nothing. So don't you dare ask a follow
Speaker 1: up question? Got it? Great? Yes? George? Do you want
Speaker 1: to start? I have an idea of how to play
Speaker 1: the game, which I know you're not supposed to have
Speaker 1: and you're not supposed to have, but to me, I
Speaker 1: understand how to play the game, and so just go
Speaker 1: ahead and I'll play. Okay, wow, yeah, Okay, Well you're
Speaker 1: already we're already deducting points. Your tone sings point is
Speaker 1: you wish that apple bottom jeans or boots with the
Speaker 1: fur mm hmm boots with the fur. Um, okay, Francesca
Speaker 1: James Gendolfini or it cbt C teeny Weeny yellow Polka
Speaker 1: Da Buchini. Mmmm, this is hard. Yeah, I have to
Speaker 1: go with James Endelfoenie, even though I know he's gay
Speaker 1: for you, canonically gay, I would say in the world
Speaker 1: The Catcher in the Rye or John Tucker must die?
Speaker 1: Who Well, you know I love Brooke from One Tree Hill,
Speaker 1: So I have to go with John Tucker must not.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows that. That's that's a fact. Um. Earth Wind
Speaker 1: and Fire or hair body face mm hmmm mm hmm,
Speaker 1: earth Wind and Fire. Sarah burrellis as a singer songwriter,
Speaker 1: Sarah borellis as a Broadway autour or. Sarah burrellis as
Speaker 1: a comedic performer. Damn, I never thought about that. I
Speaker 1: never thought about the third. The third one is shed
Speaker 1: you Show Girls five ever, Oh, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: In that show, everybody is like transforms to me, like
Speaker 1: who you know what I mean, you recognize them a
Speaker 1: little bit, you can't place who they are. Oh man,
Speaker 1: it's the stream, it's it's dreaming it's streaming now, isn't
Speaker 1: out now streaming at the whole this feels like, this
Speaker 1: feels like, actually, we're not supported by Girls five ever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you didn't say if it was good or bad.
Speaker 1: I still want to watch it. It's funny. We are
Speaker 1: actually supported by Sarah Burellas, specifically the performer. Oh She's
Speaker 1: good was our first ever sponsored straight shooter. Is Sarah
Speaker 1: Burrellas wanted us to ask which of those three things
Speaker 1: do people like her more? As so she can kind
Speaker 1: of plan the rest of her career. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with her as a Broadway composer.
Speaker 1: Is that her Broadway a tour? No? But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: My sister loves waitress and she's played me some of
Speaker 1: the music and in my head and okay, there's two
Speaker 1: formative memories for me about Sarah bure Ellis. One is
Speaker 1: that my sister heard her singing on TV and was like,
Speaker 1: you know, Sarah Burellis like, doesn't have a naturally pretty voice,
Speaker 1: but she practiced so much and now she's great. Listen
Speaker 1: to her. Someone I'm not I'm not gonna say who
Speaker 1: it is, but it's someone the listeners would recognize. Was
Speaker 1: telling me a story about how they were at a
Speaker 1: dinner party with Sarah Burrellis and someone else who's like
Speaker 1: was a straight guy, kind of acoustic guitar type, you know,
Speaker 1: someone who likes playing the guitar but has a different career,
Speaker 1: didn't recognize Sarah Brells to know she was. So they
Speaker 1: were kind of like talking and he was like, what
Speaker 1: do you do. She's like, I'm a musician. And then
Speaker 1: he got excited because he was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm also a musician, Like I've really been trying to
Speaker 1: like do it more recently and going to like you know,
Speaker 1: playing at bars and whatever. And and then basically they
Speaker 1: talked the entire party without him realizing who he was
Speaker 1: talking to. And then at some point at the end
Speaker 1: it came out that she had an upcoming gig and
Speaker 1: he was like, oh my god, where maybe we'll all come,
Speaker 1: And she goes Madison Square Garden, damn love that ship. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That to me, she's like down to earth, and and
Speaker 1: that's the thing she was. She was embarrassed. She was
Speaker 1: not at all dismissive, like she was so down to
Speaker 1: earth the entire time, so much so that until the
Speaker 1: very last moment, he had no idea she was about
Speaker 1: to have and Madison Square gardened. She was ashamed. She
Speaker 1: was like and she was like, I wish I could
Speaker 1: cancel it. Yeah, you know my Sarah Bury yellous story.
Speaker 1: How do you say her name? I say Barrella, babkay.
Speaker 1: Sarah Barrella's story is that it's easier than you think. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love to add a little flare in. They're very
Speaker 1: very yellous. Um. I met a gay man who is
Speaker 1: obsessed with her. And you know, she's one of those
Speaker 1: girls where I'm like, yes, she's working, she's talented, but
Speaker 1: I've never thought of someone being obsessed with her. People
Speaker 1: the Nora Jones crowd goes away. But I guess the
Speaker 1: Nora Jones crowd, I never thought of them as going
Speaker 1: wild at all. You know, I thought I've always figured
Speaker 1: them being tastefully like, right, they go wild, respectfully be like.
Speaker 1: But he was really like, oh, I've seen her twice
Speaker 1: on the street. I did talk to her, but um,
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, Sarah Barella stands she has
Speaker 1: super fans. Yeah, I mean she literally played Madith Square Garden. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I was a super fan yeah, and and
Speaker 1: and nothing but respect because she truly seems like a wonderful,
Speaker 1: lovely person. But imagine someone playing you know, fight or not.
Speaker 1: That's not fight song? What's so brave? But like at
Speaker 1: Madison and love something. Yeah, those are the two I know.
Speaker 1: To me. The big one is a Gravity, which I
Speaker 1: know because of so you think you can dance? They
Speaker 1: did a dance to it, I think by Mia Michael's
Speaker 1: or something and here, Yeah, I love Gravity and my
Speaker 1: mom would play it in the car we get back
Speaker 1: to the game. Is this your tactic to to sort
Speaker 1: of confuse us and get us? Giving Sarah Barella's anecdotes,
Speaker 1: I heard Sarah Barella's and I thought, like that I
Speaker 1: have a lot to say. I do want to say.
Speaker 1: This does track with my point that this is a
Speaker 1: sponsored Straight Shooters segment where we like kind of organically
Speaker 1: start talking about Sarah Barrella like Sarah is a sponsor,
Speaker 1: She's a sponsor. You cannot ask for better marketing than
Speaker 1: what we just did, Like we were very kind stopped
Speaker 1: our segment in its tracks to have a very like,
Speaker 1: very nice kind conversation about Sarah Brows. Were just like
Speaker 1: mentioned various things we like about her, and that we
Speaker 1: don't think like stupid people are like obsessed with her,
Speaker 1: Like we think that she's classy like Nora Jones, very
Speaker 1: classy but relevant today but relevant. Classy but relevant is
Speaker 1: what I am. Chameleon and is chameleon. She is a chameleon.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we gotta stop, sir. This is insane.
Speaker 1: She's a real musician, you know, she is a real musician.
Speaker 1: She's I saw her perform with Ben Folds five on
Speaker 1: TV once and I was like, this is good. I
Speaker 1: mean to hear like a cover of Brick from Sarah
Speaker 1: burrew that would make my day, Oh my god. And
Speaker 1: I think she would be I think she wouldn't change
Speaker 1: the pronot. I think she would sing it the original way.
Speaker 1: She's a brick. I don't think she'd be one of
Speaker 1: those musicians that change the prono. I'm straight. I'm straight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's not. She's actually I would say, Sarah Borrellis is
Speaker 1: one of the most important queer allies. And so with
Speaker 1: that happy pride, everyone brought to you by Sarah burrellis Happy,
Speaker 1: Happy Pride. Sarah Burrellis is. I guess we should say
Speaker 1: what the Addis were performing at Joe's Pub for NYC
Speaker 1: Pride brought to you by Tostito every day of June.
Speaker 1: Every day of June, and she's doing an unpaid for
Speaker 1: free all the proteins go to um actually just waitress
Speaker 1: on Broadway. Al Right, Okay, we're getting back to straight shooters. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm back in the game. Gay Francesca Pure for Men
Speaker 1: or a Lure by Chanel. A lure by Chanelle that
Speaker 1: was the gayest straight shooting the idea pure for men
Speaker 1: as part of the conversation about straight culture. Okay, we've
Speaker 1: dropped that like years ago. I know you're right, you're right,
Speaker 1: but you know, but I okay, in this next one,
Speaker 1: one of them is I think a very straight culture thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: modular furniture or ocular Migraines. That's actually tough because when
Speaker 1: I think of modular furniture, I think of straight men
Speaker 1: teaching a class at an art school. Who you know,
Speaker 1: they're professional, but they teach. And then ocular Migraine is
Speaker 1: my sixth grade teacher, Miss Fuller. Yeah, well she and
Speaker 1: she was really straight. Yeah she is great. Great. I
Speaker 1: actually was at a dinner party with her and I
Speaker 1: didn't know she was a teacher until the very end. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I met this gay guy at a party recently and
Speaker 1: he sir, I didn't know she had stands. All her
Speaker 1: students are getting yep, we all are, and she would
Speaker 1: sit there at her desk in pain, you know. And
Speaker 1: so I think, thinking about that, I must go with
Speaker 1: I think I gotta go with modular furniture. Wow, way
Speaker 1: to stab her in the back. She raised you, I
Speaker 1: gotta go with that. Um, Okay, she raised me, so
Speaker 1: I can betray her and she'll still love it. Right.
Speaker 1: She raised you to be a free thinker, and you
Speaker 1: don't have to support her just because she raised you. Exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that we keep delaying this segment. But
Speaker 1: modular furniture, it's interesting that you think of someone teaching
Speaker 1: at an art school. For me, it's like straight guy
Speaker 1: having his first apartment and being like, okay, everything has
Speaker 1: to make sense, like and kind of looking online and
Speaker 1: being like, what is the most straightforward directed consumer couch
Speaker 1: I can possibly buy? And then it's like margin is like,
Speaker 1: oh great, so if I moved to a bigger place,
Speaker 1: I can just like build on it. Interesting. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe I just don't have a good understanding of what
Speaker 1: modular furniture Isn't it just like literally like you, it's
Speaker 1: can buy more parts, So it's modular. You can change it, exactly,
Speaker 1: transform it. And I guess I'm thinking about that and
Speaker 1: more of like a I don't know coming from like
Speaker 1: a like furniture design standpoint, but maybe that doesn't exist
Speaker 1: like it's because I actually do that, and I am
Speaker 1: one of those guys that teaches that. I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: myself right there you go. Um So I don't know, Okay,
Speaker 1: itty bitty Titty Committee or the Ways and Means Committee,
Speaker 1: Ways and Means Committee, Itty Bitty Titty Committee is lesbian movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do have one final work normally we do for
Speaker 1: but you have one final one Chronic Lime or st Hime.
Speaker 1: Oh was that one of those things to hype you
Speaker 1: up again? Yeah? I gotta go with st Him and
Speaker 1: ste if you're out there. I love your bass playing. Incredible, incredible.
Speaker 1: I um as, as many people know, I forgave time, right,
Speaker 1: did you wait? I don't. I've listened to the show,
Speaker 1: but not all of it. Is that something that happened
Speaker 1: on the show. Mad at time? I was mad at
Speaker 1: that I had held the grudge against them since the beginning,
Speaker 1: because I went to see them at a very early
Speaker 1: show and it was very annoying. Yeah, and it was
Speaker 1: forgot the music was grudged. I thought you kind of
Speaker 1: didn't like the whole vibe and you were like, why
Speaker 1: are they sisters? No, I don't mind. I think it's
Speaker 1: cool that they're sisters. It was I went to this
Speaker 1: show at like that Poisson Rouge and it was like, um,
Speaker 1: it was they were really like annoying on stage, Like
Speaker 1: it was really like like aren't you lucky we're here?
Speaker 1: And it was like you have one song out like
Speaker 1: I don't know you really yeah, recently New York, and
Speaker 1: it was just like very like self congratulatory and I
Speaker 1: was like, guys, you have you haven't won me over
Speaker 1: yet and you're pretending like it's the end. That's so interesting.
Speaker 1: Gets My impression of them, and I saw them when
Speaker 1: they were rowing that first album, was that they were
Speaker 1: incredibly like technically good musicians. Like it's just like they
Speaker 1: really put on a show. There's like this part where
Speaker 1: they kind of do this like improvised drum thing where
Speaker 1: they're all drumming and like they'll maybe do a cover
Speaker 1: that's unexpected, like they're hitting all the beats and almost
Speaker 1: I felt like there was a certain sense of like
Speaker 1: home school vibe, like they have all grown up together
Speaker 1: and played music together from like age zero, and there's
Speaker 1: no almost spontaneity or like punk rock ethos about it.
Speaker 1: Like it truly is like you are going to see
Speaker 1: these like child musicians. Well right, And I think maybe
Speaker 1: the show I saw was like a fluke, like it
Speaker 1: seemed like they had like they kept having like friends
Speaker 1: come on like not like musician friends, just like random
Speaker 1: friends come on stage and like dance, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is so and I feel like I'm at like
Speaker 1: a birthday party that I didn't mean to come to. Well,
Speaker 1: they are very social, like everyone in l A knows them.
Speaker 1: It's something that's a big part of Yeah, like that
Speaker 1: that's a big part of their success. I'm feeling like
Speaker 1: Sarah Brella sponsored this right, well, yeah, this time take
Speaker 1: this kind of like yeh's actually interesting her biggest rivals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's interesting because and we'll cut this obviously a Sarah
Speaker 1: Burellas gets final cut. Say, but I personally actually really
Speaker 1: like him and like them much more than Sarah Borrellas
Speaker 1: but for the sake of this episode, it is all
Speaker 1: about Sarah brellas right exactly. Yeah. I also like Himes music,
Speaker 1: but they are terrible when it comes to Sarah Burella's
Speaker 1: yea from a Sarah Burrella's perspective, I don't like him.
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're looking if we're looking at him
Speaker 1: through of Sarah Burrella's lens, their meaningless, They're invisible. I
Speaker 1: don't even see, right. Do you think Sarah Burrella's just
Speaker 1: like goes home and it's like those fucking bitches about him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even think she wants to waste the breath.
Speaker 1: She's actually so nice all the time and like, it
Speaker 1: was nice to that guy at the dinner party, but
Speaker 1: then when someone brings up home, she's like, are you
Speaker 1: fucking kidding me? You're gonna say that to me? Yeah.
Speaker 1: She has like big scenes of like firing her assistant
Speaker 1: because they're like jamming out to him and she walks
Speaker 1: in and they like cut it off really quick, and
Speaker 1: she's like what was that and they're like nothing, It's
Speaker 1: just a song. It was the radio or the assistant
Speaker 1: comes and it's like, so, Sarah, I have good news
Speaker 1: and bad news you have been booked on Lollapalooza, but
Speaker 1: you're at the same stage as him and you're going
Speaker 1: on before them. And Sarah was like, what's that son,
Speaker 1: that's actually why she started doing musicals. Yeah, well she
Speaker 1: was like, something that is my own. But the thing is,
Speaker 1: you know what I've heard what Time is working on
Speaker 1: a Phantom Thread musical. Is that a joke or is
Speaker 1: that serious? I think it was a joke, but I
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, that would be awesome. And now, I
Speaker 1: mean that's I mean Sarah has I mean, the thing is, like, honestly,
Speaker 1: Sarah's right to be mad at them because I'm like
Speaker 1: literally sees Sarah like doing her own thing and then
Speaker 1: they just like they follow her career. Well, they always
Speaker 1: say like, let's do the slightly more prestige version of that.
Speaker 1: You know, you did Waitress, a kind of critically acclaimed
Speaker 1: indie from two thousand seven. We're gonna do fucking Phantom Thread,
Speaker 1: you dumb bitch. You're gonna do Phantom Thread on Broadway
Speaker 1: and it's gonna star Harry Styles as the woman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I I was in a meeting recently and
Speaker 1: I heard that I Am actually has like like a
Speaker 1: like sitcom coming out that's like kind of like a
Speaker 1: playing with like the tropes of like the riot girl type,
Speaker 1: and so it's more of us Later Kenny. It's more
Speaker 1: of us Leader Kenny type of thing, which obviously is
Speaker 1: like going to be more prestigious and more like interesting
Speaker 1: and and have a queer spin of course. So it's
Speaker 1: just like, I mean, I'm sorry, Sarah, but they're they're
Speaker 1: coming from must be she they have it out for her.
Speaker 1: She must have like dated one of their brothers or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well Sarah Brella is has three brothers, each of them
Speaker 1: are dating a hid sister. Oh so they want her
Speaker 1: out of the family. Yeah, well it's personal. They're like,
Speaker 1: this is not symmetrical if you also have a sister
Speaker 1: who's dating like some rando, Like that's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: It's actually really cool, like they're trying to basically kick
Speaker 1: her out of her own family family, which is just
Speaker 1: because she's really just objectively speaking, like a Phantom Thread
Speaker 1: musical and a Girl's Five of about a Slater Kenny
Speaker 1: like band are great good ideas. To their credit, like creatively,
Speaker 1: they're making the right choices. I mean, you have to
Speaker 1: they have a pop. They have like a pop and
Speaker 1: like sensibility that I think Sarah Burrelli's has never had. Wow,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: cut that um tote. We're not in the Sarah Burrella's
Speaker 1: sponsored segment anymore. Queen, We've done left. You can't buy me,
Speaker 1: and neither can Sarah. I'm tired of this ship. Sarah
Speaker 1: is like listening in so far, She's like it was
Speaker 1: going so well, and I was just like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is this out? Like? Can we get a post
Speaker 1: to this ship? No amount of money is going to
Speaker 1: keep my mouth shut, Francesca. No, Francesca, you promised. The
Speaker 1: one thing we needed you to do is not saying
Speaker 1: anything bad about Sarah Burella's. Sarah, if you're listening, I
Speaker 1: don't like you know she's listening, Francesca. Francesca, you know
Speaker 1: she's listening. She literally obvious And I lied. I lied
Speaker 1: about liking your song Gravity. I don't even like cample
Speaker 1: the curtain like this. We promised we would all pretend
Speaker 1: we love Sarah Barellis that so? I made up that
Speaker 1: whole story about the dinner party. She can take away
Speaker 1: her income at any moment. I'm gonna lose my house
Speaker 1: over this. We're going to be shadow band and all
Speaker 1: because you wanted to be like rebellious on Mike and
Speaker 1: speak truth to Sarah. I'm sorry, that's okay. I've got
Speaker 1: idea truth to Sarah. Yeah, and I agree with should
Speaker 1: be getting to our topic exactly. Oh yeah, you mean
Speaker 1: my topic someone's dawn because someone's shy. Wow. I think
Speaker 1: I was just overcome by that feeling you were describing Sam,
Speaker 1: where your whole body becomes tired. So you're doing that now,
Speaker 1: but in a good in a good way, because I
Speaker 1: was about to say, you're actually popping off. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah, no, yeah, I wouldn't really. Um, So, Francesca, yes,
Speaker 1: drop that topic in the chat. What was the straight
Speaker 1: that made me say straight is? What was the straight
Speaker 1: that made you say straight is for straight? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Shoutout culture ETAs shadow culture Eistas. I do listen to
Speaker 1: that podcast, same and same here. Yeah, it's good, they're
Speaker 1: not They're not a sponsor. This is not the Lasso
Speaker 1: Tristas segment. Although, to be honest, Sarah Barella sponsoring a
Speaker 1: segment does have Matt Rogers written all over. That's true.
Speaker 1: He likes Saralla honey, he likes them all, Matt. And
Speaker 1: if you disagree with me, you can come on this
Speaker 1: podcast and fight me. Yeah, and honestly sneak peak maybe
Speaker 1: and actually they are coming on, but that's coming later.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's a straight for another time and for
Speaker 1: another sponsored segment. Well, can I say it's pretty vulnerable
Speaker 1: of me to say I listened that podcast because they're
Speaker 1: not like my friends personally. I know Bowen, but I
Speaker 1: don't know Matt. So it is kind of like me
Speaker 1: saying I like Sarah brare Ells, like I like him,
Speaker 1: like I don't know. The key is just like a
Speaker 1: comedian to me, is to go on someone else's podcast
Speaker 1: and talk about how you listen to some of their
Speaker 1: episodes but all of last culture sta oh damn, you
Speaker 1: got me. I didn't listen to all of the other
Speaker 1: of the glass cultures. Okay, so which one did you skip?
Speaker 1: And why I haven't listened in a couple of weeks. Actually,
Speaker 1: anyway you want me to bring my topic, I mean,
Speaker 1: do we have to spell it out? Okay? You mentioned
Speaker 1: bringing the topic, but I haven't heard any opportunity for
Speaker 1: me to bring myself actually, I'm sorry. Are you just
Speaker 1: too busy talking about your favorite podcast? Culture? I didn't
Speaker 1: know that that was the topic podcast. You guys were interested
Speaker 1: in me saying that, so I thought i'd go with you.
Speaker 1: But my inception, we egg on things we hate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we beg for negative energy unfortunately both in this podcast,
Speaker 1: and do you find that we do do that? Like
Speaker 1: if something is like unenjoyable, we'll like try to make
Speaker 1: it into a bigger part of the podcast. Do I
Speaker 1: feel that you doing that? Are saying I was talking
Speaker 1: to say? But I think but actually I'm more interested
Speaker 1: in what you have to say. I never say yes,
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't believe it. But also if
Speaker 1: I did believe it, how could I possibly tell you yet? Right,
Speaker 1: I don't think that you do that because you don't
Speaker 1: have that. I don't know you wouldn't want to do that.
Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. So Francesco, what's the deal with
Speaker 1: cars reveal? Yes? Oh yeah, my topic is cars? Alright? Well, sorry,
Speaker 1: you have an incredibly produced sound effect that's just like
Speaker 1: various different cars. Was so cute. The reason I thought
Speaker 1: the reveal deserved a little pizzas. You're right, Sorry, I
Speaker 1: jumped the gun. Um yeah, So I thought I'd come
Speaker 1: on here to discuss cars with you guys. Well, basically,
Speaker 1: my main quarantine interest has become cars, and I haven't
Speaker 1: had really a community or opportunity to discuss it, so
Speaker 1: I thought I could come on and maybe talk about
Speaker 1: it with you guys, get your perspective on cars. So, so,
Speaker 1: just to kick it off, do you how do you
Speaker 1: believe that cars are straight? All right? Well? Basically, uh,
Speaker 1: to me, the car community is almost well, it's just like, well,
Speaker 1: it's almost exclusively straight, sis, men. And to clarify, you
Speaker 1: don't mean the car community is than cars in community
Speaker 1: with one another. You mean car and food like Pixar
Speaker 1: as cars, right, or kind of like a lot where
Speaker 1: many cars are right right right? No, I mean I
Speaker 1: mean the men who drive them, yes, you know, um yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys and gals that are behind the wheel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um yeah. I guess I just feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm on the internet a lot. I listened to a podcast,
Speaker 1: my favorite podcast this year, No Offense to You guys
Speaker 1: or Lost Culture. Eustace has been a podcast that if
Speaker 1: anyone were to look it up and listen to it
Speaker 1: would be absolutely humiliating. For what is it that that
Speaker 1: podcast is like funny and my parents like it, But
Speaker 1: this is one called Everyday Driver or these two guys
Speaker 1: from Salt Lake City talk about which car people should
Speaker 1: buy every day every week of the new car is
Speaker 1: coming out. They have two episodes a week and I
Speaker 1: listened to both of them. How long the episodes are now,
Speaker 1: Oh my god? And I listened to it at regular speed.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know, like double speed is. I can't
Speaker 1: do that. It makes me feel crazy. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: where do I even begin? So you're diving into car
Speaker 1: culture and do you? And you enjoy it? I love it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: I love like learning about the engines and like transmissions
Speaker 1: and how they work, Like I don't really know how
Speaker 1: they work that well, but I feel like I've come
Speaker 1: to a better understanding. I should say this all started
Speaker 1: when I started my search to buy my own car. Okay,
Speaker 1: So first of all, I'll let Sam tell his story
Speaker 1: because it is history to tell. But recently Sam acquired
Speaker 1: a car. Okay, I didn't know that I acquired a car.
Speaker 1: This year. My uncle was getting a new one and
Speaker 1: was getting rid of his and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: I want that's awesome. Can I ask for the making model?
Speaker 1: It is a I think two thousand nine Toyota Highlander. Damn,
Speaker 1: that's actually such a sexy car. That's so lucky. Sam.
Speaker 1: Did you get it? Did you have to pay for
Speaker 1: You gave it to me for free, which was actually
Speaker 1: extremely nice. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, so it's it's truly changed.
Speaker 1: I mean I've not done the research like you have,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate, Like, I'm like, i think it's very
Speaker 1: um responsible of you to sort of care on a
Speaker 1: deeper level about what's going on in there. Um right,
Speaker 1: I'm sort of just like whoops. And then I'm like
Speaker 1: push it and push stars, push star backs, Drive pushed sex, Drive,
Speaker 1: pushed the stut, sex Drive pushed the start. But I, um,
Speaker 1: I'm driving around New York damn city. I drove to
Speaker 1: the beach yesterday. It was crazy. That is amazing. Well,
Speaker 1: I want to say my feeling about the Highlander, the
Speaker 1: two as a nine Highlander is it is kind of
Speaker 1: like mother of four vibes in a good way. In
Speaker 1: a good way. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm truly excited to
Speaker 1: like pack the car with the gaze and like hit
Speaker 1: the beach. Yes, it's huge, it's pretty big. It has
Speaker 1: like the fold up seat in the trunk that you
Speaker 1: can can like seat like eight people technically. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's an eight seating. Yeah. That is amazing and so
Speaker 1: lucky for you, it really is. And you know that Toyota,
Speaker 1: it's going to last you, last you a long time.
Speaker 1: That's what they tell me, what people tell me, Francesca,
Speaker 1: before this, did you have a passing interest in cars
Speaker 1: or did you just snap one day decided you're going
Speaker 1: to buy a car and you need to do as
Speaker 1: much research as possible and then we're kind of rend
Speaker 1: pilled into being a member of the part. Interesting you
Speaker 1: should say that because it was I like the words snap,
Speaker 1: because it was like something snapped and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, I was a different person. I didn't recognize
Speaker 1: myself when I looked at myself in the mirror. But
Speaker 1: I will say like I, um my dad saved a
Speaker 1: bunch of my childhood papers, as in like a file,
Speaker 1: and I found it recently, and um, I found a
Speaker 1: Christmas list from third grade and I did list a Porsche.
Speaker 1: So to me, it's like Okay, so maybe my car
Speaker 1: interests does kind of like proceed when I think it started.
Speaker 1: Yeah you did. So how was your like car buying journey? Like,
Speaker 1: because you did all this research, you found a car,
Speaker 1: how how did all that go? And what did you
Speaker 1: settle on? If I may ask? Yeah, I can tell
Speaker 1: you guys. Um, I feel like my car buying journey
Speaker 1: was like, uh, it felt crazed and like just constantly
Speaker 1: every moment of my life on Facebook, marketplace, Facebook Marketplace, Craigslist,
Speaker 1: just like searching what kind of car should I get?
Speaker 1: Which kind of car should I get? Um? And a
Speaker 1: big thing was that I wanted to get a stick shift, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because of all beyond and this is like vulnerable as well. Um,
Speaker 1: probably some kind of masculinity complex like I learned my
Speaker 1: dad taught me in high school. But then like I
Speaker 1: didn't have a car after high school and I kind
Speaker 1: of forgot how to do it. And I was getting
Speaker 1: this car and I was like, I want to know
Speaker 1: how to do that, so I should just buy a
Speaker 1: car with that. So I got it. And I talked
Speaker 1: to my therapist about it, and she said that it
Speaker 1: is a masculinity complex and that it's literally me wanting
Speaker 1: to top the car, the top of the car. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I told my partner that, she said that, My
Speaker 1: partner was like, I feel like she was kind of
Speaker 1: posturing to you when she said that, like wanting she
Speaker 1: has a masculinity. Well, she's a lesbian. Oh she's got
Speaker 1: a complex on it. Something's wrong there, she well, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's a lesbian anyway. So I was like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I guess I was trying to top the car. It's
Speaker 1: kind of humiliating. It feels like humiliating, like I'm like
Speaker 1: a teenage boy, like trying to Yeah, I really am.
Speaker 1: I love the symmetry or not the symmetry, but the
Speaker 1: the thread of like you telling her this and then
Speaker 1: her trying to top you as a therapist by giving
Speaker 1: this over therapized explanation of you trying to top the car,
Speaker 1: and then you're suddenly not just and you're almost like
Speaker 1: you're now bottoming in two ways by being like suddenly
Speaker 1: embarrassed about your own desire to top a car and
Speaker 1: be by like a therapist giving you a you know,
Speaker 1: giving you this interpretation. Yes, And I should also say
Speaker 1: I do have a sexual crush on my therapist, and
Speaker 1: I did tell her that how she respond She responded
Speaker 1: pretty well, She said, Oh I can see that that
Speaker 1: feels big for you to tell me, Like, how does
Speaker 1: that feel to tell me? That's how she responded, I
Speaker 1: feel is it hard to get I mean, like this
Speaker 1: is so off topic from the car, but it's like,
Speaker 1: is it hard to like do the work when you're
Speaker 1: like horny for your there? I mean this is something
Speaker 1: that so many people who know a problem, so many
Speaker 1: people know have like, yeah, is it just natural? I
Speaker 1: mean that's what happened to I'm dying to talk to
Speaker 1: I'm dying to talk to other people who feel the
Speaker 1: same way because everyone is like, what are you with
Speaker 1: Tony Soprano? And I'm like yeah, maybe. I mean the
Speaker 1: thing is she was also in love with him. It's
Speaker 1: called counter transference. Yeah, you know, like they wanted to
Speaker 1: do each other. Yeah, I really wish they had. I
Speaker 1: really want to steep no spoilers. I'm serious, you're watching,
Speaker 1: you should actually put a spoiler alert, so sorry, um anyway,
Speaker 1: so anyway you do. But there is something like masculine
Speaker 1: about needing to do a stick shift that is like
Speaker 1: it is very high school boy. I guess like it's
Speaker 1: fun though that it's you wanting to do that, Like
Speaker 1: it's like more playful and like because I have that
Speaker 1: with something like I'm playing with a lot of masculine
Speaker 1: things right now and like seeing like what is like
Speaker 1: I feel like I mean I always do, but like
Speaker 1: I feel like this mullet is very like kind of
Speaker 1: like bad boy like like trucker guy. And then like
Speaker 1: I've been like getting like stupider like man clothes because
Speaker 1: like it's kind of fun and like you're like, well,
Speaker 1: now that there's distance from it, I can like play
Speaker 1: with this in a way that is not evil. Yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: I think it's not evil. I don't think it's evil.
Speaker 1: There's something like if there's something like you can you
Speaker 1: relate to it feeling a little bit vulnerable though, like
Speaker 1: the desire or like the reaching for it or something
Speaker 1: like reaching for something I'm not it feels like what
Speaker 1: it is, sure, you know, but when you're grasping that stick,
Speaker 1: shift do you not? When I have the stick in
Speaker 1: my hand and I'm bobbling it. But I just want
Speaker 1: to say, like wouldn't you feel just like what if
Speaker 1: you got literally like a Barbie like a pink Barbie
Speaker 1: car wouldn't that feel equally vulnerable almost like or not vulnerable,
Speaker 1: but like it's not like like it's another performances kind
Speaker 1: of gender. Yeah, I guess is the goal complete neutrality
Speaker 1: when it comes to cars. Yeah, no, totally. I think
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, why do I feel this way? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Not everyone feels that way. Well, here's the kicker though.
Speaker 1: The car that I ended up buying was the absolute
Speaker 1: like most little bitch car I could have bought. It
Speaker 1: is not cool at all. It was very cheap. What
Speaker 1: is it for the it's accents? Tiny little tiny little tires. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a Hatchback, I should say as well, it's like
Speaker 1: a Honda Fit. But that's like very europe, very Europe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it is a little bit George rock Card
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I guess it is a little bit
Speaker 1: Europe George. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's tiny. I was thinking
Speaker 1: more of like to me, Europe is like like a Fia. Yeah. Sorry,
Speaker 1: is this interesting? I should I know? Is any of
Speaker 1: this car stuff interesting? I want I want to like
Speaker 1: delve as deep as possible into the masculinity and femininity
Speaker 1: of cars. But I right, no, no no, no, I just
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm trying to ask the right questions
Speaker 1: and and just call the depths. I'm feeling cold. Can
Speaker 1: I say something about cars and straight culture? Because a
Speaker 1: show that I was watching was ship. I don't remember
Speaker 1: the show what it was called, but it was a
Speaker 1: Netflix show where they refurbished cars um like hot rods,
Speaker 1: like really old like classic cars, but they put like
Speaker 1: big engines in them. And there was a girl on
Speaker 1: the show named Constance Nuons or Noons, and she is
Speaker 1: she is like an engine girl, that's what they called her,
Speaker 1: or like motor girl. Like she's really smart and like
Speaker 1: has been building cars or engines since she was like
Speaker 1: a kid. But she is a absolutely sex symbol, like
Speaker 1: titties are always out. All of her pictures on her
Speaker 1: Instagram are like, you know, biting her nail in front
Speaker 1: of like an awesome car with like short shorts. It's
Speaker 1: just her thing is like sex playboy. But I build
Speaker 1: cars too, and that seems to be a real motive
Speaker 1: in the car community of like when there are women,
Speaker 1: they are sexy as hell. Well, I was about to say,
Speaker 1: like to me, I literally have memories of my cousin
Speaker 1: going to like car shows and the whole. Like the
Speaker 1: visual is like the car like there are women accompanying
Speaker 1: the cars, like sexy women accompanying the cars to show
Speaker 1: them off. But what you're saying is interesting because it's
Speaker 1: like a woman is basically like subverting that trope by
Speaker 1: also herself working on the cars, and so she's like
Speaker 1: playing with the male gaze so to speak. Right, that's
Speaker 1: also very video game girl like it's like like a
Speaker 1: totally character. It's always like, oh, I'm the best assassin
Speaker 1: in the world, and yeah, teas are like like Lara
Speaker 1: Cross exactly who I love? Who is really? Who is really?
Speaker 1: I wish? Can I say something fucked up? I actually
Speaker 1: love the Alicia vic Candi Lara Croft. That's something that
Speaker 1: is truly something that like you could have told me
Speaker 1: it came to me in a dream and I would
Speaker 1: have believed, Like now that you're saying it, I do
Speaker 1: remember that she played Lara Croft. But that seems like
Speaker 1: such a like joke of like like I don't know
Speaker 1: you have put her in Lara Croft. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like it's like people don't know what to do with her.
Speaker 1: Well more for me, George Francesca, do you enjoy like
Speaker 1: I guess I'm what I'm confused about is like, like
Speaker 1: that anecdote, I'm like, does that excite you? Is that
Speaker 1: hot to you? Is that annoying to you? Is that? Like?
Speaker 1: I guess I would like to know more about how
Speaker 1: you feel about that. I wouldn't say it's hot to me.
Speaker 1: But Michelle Rodriguez in the Fast and Furious franchise is hot,
Speaker 1: and well, yeah, I mean saying, so what do we
Speaker 1: like one of the hottest people of any gender totally
Speaker 1: ever walk this. She's really hot. Remember when she and
Speaker 1: Cardelevine dated and they fed the tigers. There's pictures of it. Wow.
Speaker 1: What if Michelle Rodriguez was your lesbian therapist? Damn, damn,
Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, you literally want to top
Speaker 1: the car Um Francesca, I feel as though we have
Speaker 1: gotten to the point where it's near the end. Ok.
Speaker 1: I guess I want to ask, now that you have
Speaker 1: a car, final car question, where are you going to go? Oh?
Speaker 1: Let me think about this for a second. I'll talk
Speaker 1: while you think I want to go. My dream is
Speaker 1: to find a gay swimming hole, maybe Upstate, maybe Vermond.
Speaker 1: I'm desperate to find like a gay clothing optional swimming hole.
Speaker 1: That it's like, It's like I could have goest written
Speaker 1: that ant like I could have written that answer like,
Speaker 1: oh very interesting. So do you want to drive to
Speaker 1: a clothing optional gay swimming hole? Never guess that that's
Speaker 1: what you wanted to know what they're calling? Come on,
Speaker 1: that is niche, that is that is that is that
Speaker 1: is me. I feel it's the most speciable answer from you. No, no,
Speaker 1: who is going to gay optional swimming holes? Who? On
Speaker 1: this point? Literally you, I have not been yet. I
Speaker 1: have not been yet, have I? Francesca like Stoneheng wait
Speaker 1: actually similar? Well, first my answer was going to be
Speaker 1: to space, but then my real answer because that's a
Speaker 1: joke to space in a in a a Monday accent. Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm modifying it. It's going to have with a booster
Speaker 1: in rocket. You're actually doing the ride reboot exactly on
Speaker 1: the Roku channel. Yeah, exactly. Um, my real answer is
Speaker 1: Yosemite National Park. I've only wanted to go to Yosemite.
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to go. It's kind of long drive.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty big trip though. Yeah, I means are
Speaker 1: just a couple of hours, but yeah, go across the
Speaker 1: damn country. Sure. I think that I'm going to go
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles in August for the first time. You're
Speaker 1: going to drive there? I don't know yet. I haven't decided.
Speaker 1: I mean I seem so like against this plant. It
Speaker 1: just cross country drives stressed me out so much. It's
Speaker 1: just like a lot of driving. It's just a lot, yeah,
Speaker 1: because like I used to do San Francisco to l
Speaker 1: A all the time, which is obviously short comparatively, but
Speaker 1: like even that felt like a road trip. I like
Speaker 1: doing long drives. Yeah, I mean three days is a lot,
Speaker 1: but you split it up, right, That's what they say.
Speaker 1: You stop in Texas, you stop in Montana. You stuff
Speaker 1: damn your full? Well yeah yeah, can I borrow your
Speaker 1: car Sam to do that trip? Thanks? Oh, I trust
Speaker 1: you with it, you know, you know you should do
Speaker 1: both of you with your cars. Should do kind of
Speaker 1: a more budget version of Mad Max Fury Road and
Speaker 1: it's like your two used two thousand nine and chosen
Speaker 1: four team cars with like, Hi, I'm actually on top
Speaker 1: of playing guitars. Like well, that show that I was
Speaker 1: watching where they redo the cars, the Hot Rods, they
Speaker 1: built a car like that, the cut they cut the
Speaker 1: middle section out of a VW bus so that it
Speaker 1: looked like a military grade like window lists. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: don't know what that show is called, but you've got
Speaker 1: to watch it. We will, we will, Um. I think
Speaker 1: we should do our final segment. Then let's do it.
Speaker 1: Queen George, will you introduce it? I don't want to.
Speaker 1: Our final segment is called shout Outs, and in this
Speaker 1: segment we pay homage to one of the tenants of
Speaker 1: straight culture, which is the radio shout out, and each
Speaker 1: of us shouts out something that they are enjoying, or
Speaker 1: that they like, or that they recommend. Um, I can
Speaker 1: attempt one. What's up, listeners, how is everybody doing tonight?
Speaker 1: Come on, I want to hear you all, want you.
Speaker 1: I want to give a quick shout out too. That's right,
Speaker 1: me swas salads. The other day I got some green beans,
Speaker 1: something I so rarely cook because I'm like, who has
Speaker 1: the time. It turns out that time is two to
Speaker 1: four minutes. That you just have to put them in
Speaker 1: boiling water. You take them out. It's like a little snack,
Speaker 1: a little veggie snack. Veggie ships found dead because these
Speaker 1: are actual vegetables and you can put them in your mouth,
Speaker 1: get some green beans on there, get some potatoes and
Speaker 1: put them in the water as well, and because those
Speaker 1: for ten to fifteen minutes. And then what else do
Speaker 1: you need? Oh that's right, some eggs, some tomatoes, some
Speaker 1: tuna out of a can, and then make a simple dressing.
Speaker 1: And you had yourself not only a lunch, but I'll
Speaker 1: say it a dinner, which is when I had this
Speaker 1: salad last night at ten thirty pm for dinner. It
Speaker 1: was delicious. I'm actually hearing up thinking about it. So
Speaker 1: once again, a shout out to a niche swas salad. Whoa, whoa, Okay,
Speaker 1: I have one. What's up listeners? Um, I just want
Speaker 1: to give a huge, hearty shout out to Summer ad Copy.
Speaker 1: I heard an advertisement that was like, ready for some
Speaker 1: fun in the sun. We'll get your bikini and lick
Speaker 1: on the ice cream because you're about to dip in
Speaker 1: the pool, and I was like, what else? Summer ad
Speaker 1: copy has been the same literally the whole time I've
Speaker 1: been alive. Suddenly I was transported to any age because
Speaker 1: when you're in the summer, there is no time, it's
Speaker 1: just summer. And I love that. It really made me
Speaker 1: feel safe. It made me feel at home, and Honey,
Speaker 1: with the kids at home, you're gonna want a fun activity.
Speaker 1: Go to six Flags. I was having a blast summer, bitch,
Speaker 1: if anything as possible and get on the flip flops
Speaker 1: and hit the sand. Am I right? X O x O, Sam,
Speaker 1: what are your best? Thank you? I really I was
Speaker 1: moved when I heard that ad. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: it's always the same. You're also you're improvised. Fake summer
Speaker 1: ads were so apt, like put on the flip and
Speaker 1: head to the beach because it's time for summer. Six Flags.
Speaker 1: Now I have to go. You do have to go,
Speaker 1: But I just want to say I want to go
Speaker 1: to six Flags. Honey. Guess what, I'll drive you there
Speaker 1: because we should. We literally take eight people and drive
Speaker 1: to six Flags. Yes, okay, Francesca, it's all you. Well,
Speaker 1: I want to say I did not come prepared with
Speaker 1: neither did we. I don't know if that was clear,
Speaker 1: but yeah, okay, okay, then I'm then hit it all right,
Speaker 1: Hey everybody out there, I want to give a big,
Speaker 1: big shout out to my favorite accessory for the summer Vans.
Speaker 1: Yes it is hot, hot hot, and no, there's nowhere conditioner.
Speaker 1: So you have to have a box fan or a
Speaker 1: ceiling fan or some kind of fan that you put
Speaker 1: around your room. And guess what, when you can't sleep,
Speaker 1: it's great as white noise. Don't get a white noise machine.
Speaker 1: Turn the fan up. She's the highest, steady and it
Speaker 1: will blow hot air at you and dust this so
Speaker 1: much dust in my fan. Yes, yes, yes, I couldn't
Speaker 1: live with that. My fan. My fan is behind me now, fan,
Speaker 1: so thank you, shut out shout. That was lovely. You know.
Speaker 1: I actually just got a new a C unit and
Speaker 1: um I put it in yesterday. We used it for
Speaker 1: the first time and it drove me absolutely insane. It
Speaker 1: was blowing the colder directly onto me. I couldn't find
Speaker 1: it was too cold like and find a setting that
Speaker 1: was like light. And the beginning of a C season
Speaker 1: is difficult. It's a tough transition. It's a tough transition. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it is a C season. It's going to be
Speaker 1: nine degrees on something, sleeping with a C on for
Speaker 1: the last two days. God mine's not set up yet,
Speaker 1: so get in before Sunday. Seriously, wait, Sunday is gonna
Speaker 1: be ninety Yeah, I'm going to the beach on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm going to a first birthday party? Wait, you
Speaker 1: know a one year old? Yeah I have. I'm friends
Speaker 1: with one year old. Yeah, actually know. Francesco and I
Speaker 1: were both invited. We just don't feel like going. Yeah
Speaker 1: I was invited to that, but I can't go because
Speaker 1: I think my one year old friend told me she
Speaker 1: hates both of you. Sorry too much. Can't handle that
Speaker 1: candle that actually hurt my feeling can handily heat for
Speaker 1: my one year old friend. Um, Francesca, this was a delight.
Speaker 1: I hope we didn't talk over you too much. UM
Speaker 1: tell us if we did, right now? Oh is that
Speaker 1: in the podcast? Oh yeah, this is absolutely not. Let
Speaker 1: me give a shout out to this. I'm feeling like, wait,
Speaker 1: why did I do a shout out to fans? Like
Speaker 1: I could have done other stuff. The fans are about
Speaker 1: every single thing I've ever done. I mean that's literally
Speaker 1: every episode of this podcast. And as we panic after
Speaker 1: we put it out and we're like, wait, why did
Speaker 1: we do that? That was an opportunity to do something right.
Speaker 1: That being said, it's like, I'm not thinking about you guys,
Speaker 1: or whether you talked over me. I'm thinking about me
Speaker 1: and why I didn't, you know, take this opportunity to say,
Speaker 1: like some really awesome stuff, right. That is like the
Speaker 1: thing with all of this is Sam and I are
Speaker 1: constantly worried about whether we alienated our guests, and then
Speaker 1: our guests are constantly worried about whether or not they
Speaker 1: took advantage of their a lot of time in the
Speaker 1: best possible way. Whereas we also would never if an
Speaker 1: episode went poorly, which this one did not, we would
Speaker 1: never think to be mad at the guests. We would
Speaker 1: always be like, why are we really weird? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: get right totally. Well, that's like, that's it's part of
Speaker 1: doing like a good job is like taking responsibility for yourself.
Speaker 1: I'm always holding myself accountable and actually the buck stops
Speaker 1: here too much, so I would say I'm constantly in
Speaker 1: a state of holding myself accountable. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: you need to be careful of that sometimes. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Right right now, I think it's working for all of us.
Speaker 1: Thank you well, thank you, and have a lovely time.
Speaker 1: She wants want to say, just want to se