Speaker 1: I remember when I was young, I had a phone
Speaker 1: bill at the age of three, So the hustler was
Speaker 1: always put into me from a very young age, where
Speaker 1: when I got old enough, I was putting what you
Speaker 1: do in kids names too, is what you do? So
Speaker 1: did you ever get mad at your parents and cut
Speaker 1: off their phone privileges? I'll check my level is good.
Speaker 1: Kings just don't even want to talk no more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but as soon as we're doing it right, the nigga's
Speaker 1: gonna jump right in the middle and get mad like
Speaker 1: we didn't ask him his opinion. Hey, we're ready back there.
Speaker 1: That's when you know we're in the pocket. Then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sometimes it just gets so compelling that you can't be
Speaker 1: compelled to resist. We're talking. See, it's exactly how it worked.
Speaker 1: It is. You know most people podcast King the Engineer
Speaker 1: don't talk. I don't know. I've been watching one where
Speaker 1: they really do talk. Well, let's see, uh, I was
Speaker 1: watching who was the engineer for the really Idiots podcast?
Speaker 1: Don't get me lying because don't talk? I thought it
Speaker 1: was the girl with the computer and stuff. I thought
Speaker 1: she was engineering. Now we got the diddy of engineers
Speaker 1: all up in the audio. Yeah, You're like should not.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh no, that's you who should And I
Speaker 1: was talking about that's a good point. All up an audio,
Speaker 1: all of that song. This must be an l a
Speaker 1: music thing. No, no, it's quite a big deal, the
Speaker 1: source of awards in New York with sug coming on.
Speaker 1: If you don't want show producers all up in the
Speaker 1: videos and all that ship. So you got under stay.
Speaker 1: I was probably gonna lockdown when it was playing at Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I didn't see no TV at that time. That's
Speaker 1: good to know. Now I'll go since you came home.
Speaker 1: It's because you know, usually engineers be behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: But we ain't tripping over Sugar juxtapost here all up
Speaker 1: in the audios and he's all the videos and I ain't.
Speaker 1: We ain't tripping. We're not like death row. We're letting
Speaker 1: you seine. Yeah, no ceilings, glasses, l O. See my
Speaker 1: boy Pete for me. I gotta Pete brought a player,
Speaker 1: a special player through the spot. We we started late,
Speaker 1: but we're on time, so we're gonna make this motherfucker happen.
Speaker 1: Glad to be here, man it. Yeah, I go by
Speaker 1: q um just hereque for a little bit. Que one letter. Yep,
Speaker 1: just real quick qu that's solid. Okay. So I was
Speaker 1: asking Pete like, right, like, what are we gonna do
Speaker 1: with this podcast? Because I don't think most people understand
Speaker 1: with no ceilings and Pete does, but he like, we
Speaker 1: never talked about how are we gonna do the podcast?
Speaker 1: So my focus point was always having conversations, right, um,
Speaker 1: about Pariah's in the community, you know, in the culture,
Speaker 1: or things that are very polarizing, you know, topics that
Speaker 1: we don't want to talk about. So some of the
Speaker 1: some of the future shows are you know, abusive husbands,
Speaker 1: um snitches, um nuns, all of these different ideas and
Speaker 1: having conversations just talking to people. It's never really an interview,
Speaker 1: it's just really conversations. So I feel like and I
Speaker 1: think Pete brought you here because we both are from
Speaker 1: the hood, and I guess are our past were different,
Speaker 1: right how we went about it. It's also like in
Speaker 1: knowing to you guys fairly well, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: what drew the interest to me for the conversation was
Speaker 1: really just the individual perspective, like your take and I
Speaker 1: think in general, like like like your specific like your
Speaker 1: gang is a little anal anomalous to like compared to
Speaker 1: a lot in l A and that you're pretty small
Speaker 1: and you all seem to like have a like a
Speaker 1: money making machine. There's a lot of people seems like
Speaker 1: they're just kind of they're hanging out. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: so the thing about gangs is they everybody's gangs come
Speaker 1: together differently, you know what I mean. Like, um so
Speaker 1: the concept that my gang is more of an anomaly
Speaker 1: or my homies is not right. Um, I guess we
Speaker 1: are to be a seven Street nigger. You do. At
Speaker 1: a time, you had to be a part of the
Speaker 1: economic system. You had to get some money. You couldn't
Speaker 1: be a broke nigga from the hood. That was just
Speaker 1: like a joke, Like you couldn't do that. Um. Like
Speaker 1: you talked about like South Sides culturally being really about
Speaker 1: their super culturally, so comparatively, that must mean that relative
Speaker 1: to some other crews that aren't so much of their
Speaker 1: they have other agendas or other priorities. Maybe. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean I think that's in the hood period, right, Um,
Speaker 1: everybody don't know how to monetize their territory. You know,
Speaker 1: it still requires a business mind to monetize your territory. Uh,
Speaker 1: some of my older homies, I think they can run
Speaker 1: Fortune five businesses. They like monsters when they come to
Speaker 1: marketing business and understanding. So it just depends on which
Speaker 1: part of the hood you act like. Um so like
Speaker 1: my neighborhood is a certain way because poverty was super
Speaker 1: super dense like right is, people was poor, not quite
Speaker 1: project you know, level of poverty right where they kind
Speaker 1: of stick everybody right next to each other. But again
Speaker 1: like in in my in my sex, and you can
Speaker 1: buy a house for forty dollars all the way probably
Speaker 1: up into ninety nine, so comparatively like to six olds,
Speaker 1: like if you go to the avs like um, like
Speaker 1: in that part of the the hood right where you right, Um,
Speaker 1: what I took you king with boys in the Hood
Speaker 1: was that if you, um, if you own Vans or Arlington,
Speaker 1: whichever where you want to call it, that same street,
Speaker 1: if you a couple, you know you you uh, that
Speaker 1: would be south of Florence, you know, mean south of Florence,
Speaker 1: south of Slawson, south of Slawson between High Park and
Speaker 1: Slawson right uh, behind the shopping center and Vans, that
Speaker 1: little section that's where they shot boys in the hood.
Speaker 1: Those houses are peppers pepper? Yeah, peppers? Did you make
Speaker 1: a stout peppers? But if you're in that section, I
Speaker 1: think houses in hundred and undred and forty thousand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so again we're the poorest people that That's also where
Speaker 1: the hustle is too. That's a big hustling thing poor people.
Speaker 1: Also is crackheads? Is people smoking crack? You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's a different level of economic opportunity available just right
Speaker 1: there for you to take advantage of. Versus if you
Speaker 1: go on the west side. The further you start going west,
Speaker 1: it ain't as many crackheads because it's like it ain't
Speaker 1: really for poor people. That's why you don't really hear
Speaker 1: a lot of stories of super wealthy you know, west
Speaker 1: side drug dealers, like not the further you start getting west,
Speaker 1: it's not a ton of them because the poverty is different.
Speaker 1: Once you start passing normity in the hood, right, you
Speaker 1: gotta kind of be on the east side of the
Speaker 1: one tim That's where you know at Los Angeles, you
Speaker 1: know Hoovers. Once you get to where the Hoovers is,
Speaker 1: you started coming into poverty. But the further you go east,
Speaker 1: you come to Watts, you know, you Linwood you know,
Speaker 1: like Compton that it's a different type of poverty, so
Speaker 1: the opportunities is more available. That's what you know, people
Speaker 1: on cracking and poor people you know, tending to live.
Speaker 1: So I think I get the concept. So my hood
Speaker 1: is more of an anomena in theory because it's small.
Speaker 1: But I think on the East side that's most games.
Speaker 1: Well that's for sure, that's true. It doesn't and it's
Speaker 1: different than l a like and I don't know Oakland anymore.
Speaker 1: Like I lived up there in the early two thousand's
Speaker 1: and there wasn't like you have down here, like generational
Speaker 1: type of like entities so to speak. You know, it
Speaker 1: was like six seven guys that know each other. They
Speaker 1: were out doing their thing, and they might have given
Speaker 1: themselves a little bit of a name to their crew,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like other people were trying to join
Speaker 1: over the course of years and years and years. I mean,
Speaker 1: like the only names are like outfits. I even remember
Speaker 1: from up there will be like a corn Assassins, which
Speaker 1: I don't even think was like representative of all of acorns.
Speaker 1: It might have been so that a corps ship and
Speaker 1: uh that's in the movie because the movie with Queen
Speaker 1: Teeth and that's a real that's a real project. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a real project. That's that was like one of
Speaker 1: the first new projects because right around the corner from
Speaker 1: there on, Mandela's like what looks like what you've seen
Speaker 1: and watch like the older square beat up like that
Speaker 1: Acorns is on like ade line seventh. It's like a
Speaker 1: it's much nicer looking facility business projects. So to that point,
Speaker 1: I think, again, it depends on which hood you at, right,
Speaker 1: So it depends on the hood itself. The hood is
Speaker 1: kind of the opportunity. I don't know if it's as
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was ever as many smokers
Speaker 1: that lived in you know a trade as smokers that
Speaker 1: lived in Watts. Yeah, And I think you know, when
Speaker 1: you're looking at the dynamics of you know, the set
Speaker 1: or the gang, you're looking at again how that person
Speaker 1: runs this business. And like you said, like some folks
Speaker 1: could go out and run a fortunate five hundred company. Um,
Speaker 1: some folks diversify, you know, So crack again is going
Speaker 1: to be a cheap jug. That's how you can easily
Speaker 1: exchange money. You're gonna have a lot of transactions. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to stack your money up in a
Speaker 1: in a quick way. And you look at some of
Speaker 1: the other gangs that are running around even to this
Speaker 1: day now human trafficking. You know, they find some way
Speaker 1: to find it. They will find a way to get
Speaker 1: their hustle and get their money up. Right, let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question, how many crackheads do you remember
Speaker 1: in Orange County? Not in my part of Orange County.
Speaker 1: Basket pushing crackheads, not in my part of Orange County.
Speaker 1: But like there's been in general in Orange County, it's
Speaker 1: not happening. Like like even if you go down there
Speaker 1: now right, you're gonna see some of that stuff downing Fortune,
Speaker 1: You'll see some of that stuff. Maybe there's a lot
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of you, but you have a
Speaker 1: lot of method comes in there. But it's still it's
Speaker 1: not really crack. It's been methy right, Okay, So like
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so prime crack right when it was
Speaker 1: street sales, like you don't remember a ton of of
Speaker 1: of crackheads and HB or Newport Beach. No, that was
Speaker 1: that's that's power country, Okay. So right in in in
Speaker 1: the Bay and the E p A and Paalo Alto.
Speaker 1: Do you remember, Uh, yeah, do you? Did you ever
Speaker 1: sail Grt? No, I never did. I actually I never
Speaker 1: actually got into the game at all, which was, you know,
Speaker 1: crazy because it was around me. You know, it was
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood, it was in my family. Um. But
Speaker 1: just like you said in regards to those folks that
Speaker 1: could run Fortune five companies, I just looked at the
Speaker 1: money exchange and I said, I could do the same thing.
Speaker 1: I can make that same money, are more without the risk,
Speaker 1: you know. And and I tried to talk to people
Speaker 1: a lot in regards to those that may want to
Speaker 1: get into the game or they're flirting with the game,
Speaker 1: and we talked about like, hey, what's what's the reason
Speaker 1: for this gang that you want to jump into, right?
Speaker 1: Is it for to figure out a way to bring
Speaker 1: level up your money, you know, to bring resources to
Speaker 1: your community. Can you do those same things in a
Speaker 1: more effective way? Takes the rest away? And so that's
Speaker 1: kind of what I look at. What was weird is
Speaker 1: so like when you were comparing like gangs or or
Speaker 1: or neighborhoods in the Bay Area and in hoods in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, it's always a belief that it is this difference,
Speaker 1: right because l A has cribs and bloods, but the
Speaker 1: Bay Area has the same gangs. Right, even if they
Speaker 1: don't have a title, whether or not they identify themselves
Speaker 1: under a banner or you know, color to associate their
Speaker 1: you know, affiliation, they still have the same gangs. These
Speaker 1: guys right in this hood grew up together, and they together,
Speaker 1: and those guys grew up in that hood and they together,
Speaker 1: and the class comes into this fight of you know,
Speaker 1: most of the time it's a resource issue or pride issue.
Speaker 1: We talked about this right in the hood. Pride is
Speaker 1: like the the most valuable stock the way like to me,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't really like that shoulder shoulder with a
Speaker 1: lot of people in Oakland at that time, but enough
Speaker 1: and they kind of get the sense, like I don't
Speaker 1: know when, like it probably would be like that when
Speaker 1: you say, like in l A really like the mid
Speaker 1: to late seventies where lines really kind of started getting
Speaker 1: drawn and names were really kind of put onto certain areas,
Speaker 1: but it would where were where. It was kind of
Speaker 1: like in that Generation one, an organic establishment of whose
Speaker 1: where so to speak by name, It seemed more so
Speaker 1: like it was always Generation one up there all the time,
Speaker 1: like you might have still lived there, but the older
Speaker 1: guys were the older guys. Well, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: the hoods in l A are definitely branded. L A
Speaker 1: in general is branded really well compared to the rest
Speaker 1: of the country. But I mean that's the us A
Speaker 1: talking to like the community, right, we're in Hollywood, We're
Speaker 1: in the media mecca, you know, and branding it it's
Speaker 1: across the board, so it doesn't just hit within the gangs.
Speaker 1: It hits across every every aspect. And the only other
Speaker 1: cop to me, it's like Chicago, where like you know,
Speaker 1: for sure there's like, you know, some big factions that
Speaker 1: are and some of that has to do with history.
Speaker 1: Some of that has to do with the amount of
Speaker 1: years that they were able to be established before you
Speaker 1: came over to l A, because l A is kind
Speaker 1: of a younger city in that regard in terms of
Speaker 1: gang culture and just in terms of people period. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the reason and I agree with you, that's part of
Speaker 1: the reason that the brand of what's happening here in
Speaker 1: it's kind of simplest explanation, became big because it is
Speaker 1: the home of all, you know, Hollywood media and films.
Speaker 1: I'm sure so. But also I mean just being a
Speaker 1: hood nigg in l A. There is a like it's
Speaker 1: a costume as a it's a uniform to be a
Speaker 1: hood in the get in the left, whether you want
Speaker 1: to wear it or not. You can go somewhere and
Speaker 1: everybody don't know you from a hood in that left.
Speaker 1: It don't matter which one you're from. Right, there's a
Speaker 1: whole uniform completely right you. You know, whether that's you
Speaker 1: could be in l A nigga or Southern California nigga
Speaker 1: for Halloween. It's easy and it don't matter where you
Speaker 1: at around the rest of the world. You mean, they'll
Speaker 1: be like, oh, that's that West Coast Southern California ship
Speaker 1: and up top right when you go to the Bay,
Speaker 1: it's not like that. There's no uniform, right you the
Speaker 1: average Bay Area person, if you if you're talk about
Speaker 1: somebody from the hood, you don't really pick it up
Speaker 1: until they talk. If you know the movements certain things,
Speaker 1: if they flamboyant, you could tell. But just there's no
Speaker 1: uniform and it's smaller, but like, yeah, they're going up there,
Speaker 1: like well, there's distinctly a way that Bay Area people dressed.
Speaker 1: But I think it's not exclusive to Bay Area. That's
Speaker 1: the thing, Like, what's what's the most bay Area article,
Speaker 1: what's the what's the most bay Area article in the hood.
Speaker 1: You can wear that, Okay, that's some Bay ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's it's gonna be. Nothing's gonna be exclusive
Speaker 1: to the Bay Man because they just kind of yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that that white t. To me, what stood
Speaker 1: out at the time was those fucking jackets, those north
Speaker 1: face no, the puffy jackets, like yeah, yeah, but those
Speaker 1: those came out from by Moore. That's the Baltimore, Chicago,
Speaker 1: New York all this guy. So like, I don't in
Speaker 1: the Bay I don't know if there's anything that stands out.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't think people to wear
Speaker 1: them anymore. No, But I mean you knew who they
Speaker 1: were at that time in that moment because they had
Speaker 1: that well because they're right. Yeah, but you couldn't take
Speaker 1: that sign uniform from that hood to any other hood
Speaker 1: in California and they would I excuse me, to any
Speaker 1: other hood outside of California and they would be to
Speaker 1: identify like, Okay, this person is from a Bay Area hood, right, Um.
Speaker 1: The culture is not exclusive fashion wise, the culture is
Speaker 1: exclusive language and lingo wise. Where you listen to a
Speaker 1: Bay Area nigger from the Bay Area hood talk, you're
Speaker 1: gonna know right off the rip he's from the Bay.
Speaker 1: If he's talking, he from the hood, You're gonna be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he from the Bay. From cars, that's a Byrey thing.
Speaker 1: They have a certain style about how they style cars,
Speaker 1: and the cars that they choose are very much of
Speaker 1: representative of Bay Area hoods. Um, and he might be
Speaker 1: right Again, I don't think it's just a lack of exposure, right,
Speaker 1: I think, Um, the easiest part of branding, right is
Speaker 1: the outfitting of something, you know, the pain job. For
Speaker 1: me that that's the easiest out in it, I mean
Speaker 1: of a brand, right, So to be a hood and
Speaker 1: in the l A. Everybody, you could take that outfit
Speaker 1: to anywhere around the world and they're gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: he must be from l A. From the West. So again,
Speaker 1: these are all great business moves, right, you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's that's from the hoods of Los Angeles. So
Speaker 1: even in his particular situation, like what you're saying, like
Speaker 1: he might be somebody that went a different direction. Everybody's
Speaker 1: going the same direction, right, everybody is you know, the
Speaker 1: product is irrelevant, the product that seems to get way
Speaker 1: more credit than it deserved. Like everybody can't just sell
Speaker 1: rocks in the hood. You really, Like, I was talking
Speaker 1: to my barber. He asked me a question. It is
Speaker 1: sounded craziest here. I almost went to calling racist and ship,
Speaker 1: but he was like, he said, gee, like out of
Speaker 1: hooked up a lot of people with birds and ship,
Speaker 1: Like I got people hooked up through my people's right.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of times brothers burn him. And
Speaker 1: I was telling him to get a kilo of dope.
Speaker 1: Is like trying to ask the average America to open
Speaker 1: up their own business, Like you're setting them up to
Speaker 1: open their business. You think that business gonna be opened
Speaker 1: up twelve months. No, you think every dollar coming in
Speaker 1: they know how to save it and make sure they
Speaker 1: budget for the month of parent And he was giving
Speaker 1: them out front. Yeah, so he knew somebody that needed
Speaker 1: a street dealer, and he knew the street dealers that
Speaker 1: needed to connect. But the problem is the the misunderstanding
Speaker 1: that the buyers weren't walking out with the full purchase
Speaker 1: price and doing the transaction. No, hell no, you mean
Speaker 1: just sellers know, the buyer, the one who would show fired.
Speaker 1: It was no cash to transact, that's my question. He
Speaker 1: was so he got they got burned waiting further the
Speaker 1: cash to come back happened like they got robbed or
Speaker 1: something like. No, no, it was literally just us. You
Speaker 1: know the deal, the transaction didn't work out. Well. I
Speaker 1: think it's a confusing that that people want to steal
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, they don't know how to run
Speaker 1: this business. Like, bro, to have a fucking bird of dope,
Speaker 1: you know, a thousand Grahams thirty six ounces. Lord knows
Speaker 1: if you took that ship and somebody you know rocked
Speaker 1: it up, that ship is fifty six. Bro. You actually
Speaker 1: need to have a location. Yeah, Like you cannot be
Speaker 1: driving that ship to where you think you're settling that
Speaker 1: every day you risk your chances. You need to open
Speaker 1: up a location, which means you need to be able
Speaker 1: to put the house of somebody name. You gotta put
Speaker 1: the bills of somebody name. You still gotta go out
Speaker 1: and market it. You gotta promote it, you gotta advertise it.
Speaker 1: You gotta get publicity. Smoker's gotta talk about your ship.
Speaker 1: You gotta give free rocks away for other smokers to
Speaker 1: talk about your ship. You have to run a business.
Speaker 1: The average person who might in the hood, who might
Speaker 1: get front of the bird, feel me, he's going to
Speaker 1: go to somebody else who sells dope. I'm black man,
Speaker 1: you know, get this off of me. So it's like,
Speaker 1: imagine if we gave the average American person right a business.
Speaker 1: Here's a McDonald's bro. They're gonna lose that motherfucker in
Speaker 1: a year. There's no chance because again, if you don't
Speaker 1: know the discipline and sacrifices it takes to run a business,
Speaker 1: to me, you're not gonna be successful. The people who
Speaker 1: I knew were selling dope and good at it, they
Speaker 1: could run any business. The only difference in the hood.
Speaker 1: You're just educated about dope more than other things. You
Speaker 1: gotta understand, like particularly that that that my hood right
Speaker 1: that she was talking about, Like they're talking about making PCP.
Speaker 1: PCP is a really different process. Like I had a
Speaker 1: p chemistry in high school and they a green yard
Speaker 1: reaction is like a experiment that you get in the
Speaker 1: in the class and it's not more than it's like
Speaker 1: five teachers to tend students. That's how dangerous it is.
Speaker 1: You got a bunch of niggas who ain't educated past
Speaker 1: the fifth grade level trying to do a green yard reaction.
Speaker 1: That makes the PCP. So that's why houses is blown up,
Speaker 1: That's why niggas is dying. They're not educated on what's
Speaker 1: going on. So it's easy, like the information about you know,
Speaker 1: selling dope is easily and at that time more available
Speaker 1: on how like it's more people in the hood right
Speaker 1: that could teach you how to rock up a bird. No,
Speaker 1: they can explain to you, teach it to you. You
Speaker 1: can get educated on that. Who the fund can they
Speaker 1: go talk to about opening the McDonald's. That person was
Speaker 1: not living where we was living. They're not gonna live
Speaker 1: if you own the McDonald's and the King of Han
Speaker 1: shopper center right there where we're at, you for sure
Speaker 1: ain't for living in the house that costs fifty dollars
Speaker 1: around the corner. M Yeah, So I think Pete, like
Speaker 1: I'll be like I said, I noticed, we always talk
Speaker 1: and use somebody to me that has vested interest in it.
Speaker 1: You had experience in it. But I think there's an
Speaker 1: underlying unbelief, disbelief and it's not just you. It's Head,
Speaker 1: you know, DJ Head, Tom Salace. It's a couple of
Speaker 1: people that have to have this believe like they don't
Speaker 1: believe exactly as advertised, Like it's like no, I gotta
Speaker 1: be it can't be that. It's like, yes, that is
Speaker 1: specifically that the education or what you're exposed to. It's
Speaker 1: easy right here. And when you again, like we talked
Speaker 1: about right, uh, that safe mode, survival mode, it's what
Speaker 1: you see in front of you as success. And I
Speaker 1: think like just to kind of piggyback off of that,
Speaker 1: because I do agree with you in terms of sometimes
Speaker 1: you see people walking down to the product of their environment,
Speaker 1: what's being brought to them, what's available to them, what's
Speaker 1: being taught to them, and so on and so forth,
Speaker 1: and so it's so much easier for you to just
Speaker 1: jump into that path, right at least for you know,
Speaker 1: young black man in the hood. Are young men in
Speaker 1: the hood, you know that are going through it to
Speaker 1: see if this might be something that lets him go
Speaker 1: to the next level. But as I went through my
Speaker 1: path and I went a different route, I went a
Speaker 1: different journey, I saw those same things, right I would
Speaker 1: sit in the house, I would see the deals taking place.
Speaker 1: I would see the women coming through, in and out
Speaker 1: and so on and so forth at different spots, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I saw the prostitution, I
Speaker 1: saw the drugs, I saw the money being exchanged. I
Speaker 1: saw it all. I let me ask your question, did
Speaker 1: you see something? Did you know something exists past it?
Speaker 1: I knew that the one who was leading was making money,
Speaker 1: but I also saw that the ones who were a
Speaker 1: part of it that weren't leading, We weren't doing what
Speaker 1: I thought would be impressive for my life. Well, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying because I'm saying it's important to
Speaker 1: establish you know, why some people don't take the path
Speaker 1: I was trying to say, questions, did you believe there
Speaker 1: was something more to the business or beyond life, beyond
Speaker 1: that life beyond that? Yeah, way way more. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and and that's and that's and that's not necessarily because
Speaker 1: it was necessary. It was talking to me, but you
Speaker 1: knew it existed, but I but I had a curiosity
Speaker 1: about it. And and in general, for me, I'm in
Speaker 1: a situation where somebody tells me something, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be skeptical about it, and then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do my research and I'm gonna try I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: an inquisitive person. I'm gonna try to enquire about the situation.
Speaker 1: So every time I would jump into any situation, but
Speaker 1: especially when I was young, when I would jump into
Speaker 1: these situations, I would just observe pete and this, and
Speaker 1: I want to cut you. But I'm connecting to some
Speaker 1: of me. Talk about that's i Q that's into it,
Speaker 1: that inquisitive mind and the belief like I like to
Speaker 1: refer to intellect. It sounds crazy as vision right where
Speaker 1: you can see beyond what's in front of you, because
Speaker 1: I'm privileged of the same thing. I just also realized
Speaker 1: that I was going to be good at this. I
Speaker 1: didn't worry that it could be more like I had
Speaker 1: plans to go to college and be a pharmacist, a
Speaker 1: real pharmacist, and open a pharmacy. But the economics of
Speaker 1: what was going on was literally just I didn't have
Speaker 1: a moral compass to be like, this is wrong because
Speaker 1: I thought people were making the choice. Um. Also, I
Speaker 1: just wasn't scared of jail. My mom was weird, is right?
Speaker 1: This affects me? My mom went to jail growing up
Speaker 1: a couple of times, so I just didn't have a
Speaker 1: fear of jail. That was never thought like, jail is
Speaker 1: the worst thing. You know. That's interesting because my dad
Speaker 1: was imprisoned for almost all my life, right, and that
Speaker 1: could make you be like, I don't never want to
Speaker 1: like it kind of depends, but but yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: I would agree with you there, And I think that like,
Speaker 1: did that impact did you consider that? Did you like
Speaker 1: what impacted that have on on your perspective of risk,
Speaker 1: let's say, or your perspective of consequences. Oh, I mean
Speaker 1: I understood that the consequence of my dad being imprison
Speaker 1: meant that we did not have a relationship with each
Speaker 1: other in the way that I would wanted to write
Speaker 1: you understood as a kid, Yeah, I mean I talked
Speaker 1: to him on the phone, you know, when they would
Speaker 1: have those collect calls and so on and so forth. Right,
Speaker 1: I would get these letters, right, I would be sad.
Speaker 1: I'd be remorse that I wasn't able to see my dad,
Speaker 1: you know. So I don't know if I fully understood it,
Speaker 1: but I understand wouldn't meant to feel the strain of
Speaker 1: not having a father right there, But this did it
Speaker 1: work because as a him it did not work. As
Speaker 1: a turn it calloused the figure understanding right, And I
Speaker 1: think that for me in regards to how I made
Speaker 1: my choice and decision, it wasn't just one thing that
Speaker 1: made me make a decision to go, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pursue it this way as opposed to jump into this,
Speaker 1: that and the other. Because everything is enticing when you're young.
Speaker 1: In the situation, right, You're seeing all these cute girls
Speaker 1: walking by, right, and You're like, I could get that too,
Speaker 1: and I could have that quick cash there too, and
Speaker 1: I could do all this, that and the other. But
Speaker 1: I wanted to be and I wanted to be an owner.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a creator. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: the one at the top. So whether it was going
Speaker 1: to be in that game or in a different game,
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that whatever I did, I
Speaker 1: was at the top of it. So I needed to
Speaker 1: have I needed to take in as much information as
Speaker 1: I could and analyze my risks and my situation in
Speaker 1: order to to jump forth. Go ahead. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: gonna ask you, like, how short was the navigational path
Speaker 1: for you? Just in that regard to to go for
Speaker 1: because you said you started off getting paid to yell
Speaker 1: if the cops are coming right. No, I first got paid.
Speaker 1: I got paid to watch us. So my o g
Speaker 1: Hommy would chop up the rocks, he said them on
Speaker 1: the tray, and I would be able to do my
Speaker 1: homework and just make sure nobody took more than there
Speaker 1: are a lot of share and he would pay me
Speaker 1: fifty dollars for that. So it might take him an
Speaker 1: hour to do what he had to do. He might
Speaker 1: have chopped up every bit of a quarter piece or
Speaker 1: a half ounce, and I would just make sure people
Speaker 1: paid their proper share. And when he come back, he
Speaker 1: get the money counting, and he gave me fifty to
Speaker 1: seventy five dollars for that. That's my first introduction to it.
Speaker 1: Um Puff Puff, we called you puff because that's what
Speaker 1: she would have called him. Puffy got a giant Canibus
Speaker 1: logo on his hat. I thought it was for the smoke.
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking too. How did you remember
Speaker 1: the first time you was enticed to in the hood
Speaker 1: to hustle? Uh? Well, my parents my family, like I
Speaker 1: come from a family that was hustling since I was
Speaker 1: a little kid. So I was culturally like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what they did. Like I would watch them as a kid.
Speaker 1: I'm going to the bathroom when somebody come out and
Speaker 1: blood beyond the toilets because they were shooting up, you
Speaker 1: know at Washington, Man, this is what I've seen. And
Speaker 1: then you know, I have people that was family members
Speaker 1: that were stripped and you know, prostitute and it was normal.
Speaker 1: It was normal if you didn't get in the game. Then,
Speaker 1: Like I remember when I was young, I had a
Speaker 1: phone bill at the age of three because my parents
Speaker 1: were put phone bills in your name when I was young,
Speaker 1: because so the hustler was always put into me from
Speaker 1: a very young age, where when I got old enough,
Speaker 1: I was putting phone bill and kids names too. So
Speaker 1: did you ever get mad at your parents and cut
Speaker 1: off their phone privileges? I would if I wouldn'ld have
Speaker 1: been off the time E been off when it was five,
Speaker 1: Like to you, m oh, yeah, you're not calling ship
Speaker 1: and kids? Do that now? Tell parents, no, we ain't
Speaker 1: everything off. Yeah it is. I mean, it is really
Speaker 1: interesting that that product of our environment, right when we're raised,
Speaker 1: what we see, what we take in, it bleeds out,
Speaker 1: you know, and again right to add to that point.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I apologize, I just you stimulate certain
Speaker 1: things to build off that specific point. That's where intellect
Speaker 1: comes into play because it gives you vision past what
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about. Because I'm a naturally inquisitive person. Even
Speaker 1: within the culture, I'm asking my homeboys, why are we
Speaker 1: doing this? Why are we doing that? Why are we
Speaker 1: going the world over this? Why are we crips? Why?
Speaker 1: I would ask a million questions and niggas will get offended.
Speaker 1: My dad used to talk, maybe you ask a million questions,
Speaker 1: and but that was nobody taught me to ask questions.
Speaker 1: The average person either don't have the mind to ask
Speaker 1: questions or are in fear to ask questions. So I
Speaker 1: had to fight to ask questions. Like when my dad,
Speaker 1: it became like I could annoy him. But so I
Speaker 1: had to take the risk of him being annoyed of
Speaker 1: me asking questions, you know, to learn, you know, And
Speaker 1: that's tough because it could make a painting moodel like
Speaker 1: he's not a good father or something. It's not, it's
Speaker 1: just he comes from a different era of you don't
Speaker 1: ask a lot of questions. So in my in my
Speaker 1: pops a seventy four, so he is on that level.
Speaker 1: But I'll still ask him a million questions anyway, you
Speaker 1: just think, go like it. And in the hood, it's different,
Speaker 1: right with the homies, the older hommies, they definitely didn't
Speaker 1: want to be questioned. So you know, you start getting
Speaker 1: you start getting in fights because you're asking questions. Then
Speaker 1: you start winning the fights, and now Nigga's got to
Speaker 1: really answer the question. And that's when you start realizing
Speaker 1: that some of the answers are not you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say it's they were passed down the
Speaker 1: same information. They don't necessarily understand why they never they
Speaker 1: have an uncomplete book, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: a lot of times we walked through this life, you
Speaker 1: know and hood or in the hoods that I grew
Speaker 1: up with, and we have an uncomplete book. Right, we
Speaker 1: got like five chapters to this thing, and we and
Speaker 1: we we we we were writing it as we're rolling,
Speaker 1: you know, in the situation. And so so yeah, like
Speaker 1: a lot of people that I knew that jumped into
Speaker 1: the culture and the life they were they were riding
Speaker 1: to the wheels fell off, and then the wheels fell
Speaker 1: off because they didn't know the rest of the book.
Speaker 1: What's crazy. The average person, right, is on autopilot. Like
Speaker 1: I've always said this, like okay, like you know on
Speaker 1: the plane they fly most planes autopilot, like they tapping
Speaker 1: the destination and the plane knows where to fly. And
Speaker 1: that's how people in the hood come up culturally, right,
Speaker 1: it's autopilot. It's like, okay, if you know they said
Speaker 1: this is what you do to get here, this is
Speaker 1: what is saying to do. That's universe. It was like
Speaker 1: that where But that's that's the most followers and most people.
Speaker 1: But again, I don't want to say followers. I believe God.
Speaker 1: And this is the thing where this is not gonna
Speaker 1: make sense because you don't believe in God. But I
Speaker 1: believe like God blesses some of us with intellect to
Speaker 1: lead the people without. Yeah, but those are the few.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, but I'm saying I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, so how we deal with it at
Speaker 1: that level is going to determine who we are as people.
Speaker 1: Them following don't make them anything but who they are.
Speaker 1: Announce an exposure of of infrastructure in some capacity or another.
Speaker 1: As far as outcome goes okay. So my situation, I've
Speaker 1: always flown manually, even just growing up in the hood
Speaker 1: for me, like niggas is drinking to try to deal with,
Speaker 1: you know, the trauma, the smoking drugs, to deal with
Speaker 1: the trauma of all the experiences versus in your community,
Speaker 1: there is trauma, like I don't want to neglect nobody trauma,
Speaker 1: but it's also fun. Like I think drugs where you from,
Speaker 1: like most white people, I know, it's recreation. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, because I think most people on drugs from huh,
Speaker 1: I mean not just the hard ones I'm talking. I'll
Speaker 1: say this much. I perceive recreation itself differently where I
Speaker 1: grew up. So it's like it has to deal with
Speaker 1: where Like it's a relative to ceilings and floors, so
Speaker 1: to speak. So you grow up in a top one
Speaker 1: percent environment, Well you're larger than one percent effectively, so
Speaker 1: you're trying to pack too many people into an outcome
Speaker 1: that they can't all fit kind of pressure because pressure
Speaker 1: is pressure, and that's among the adults though, you know,
Speaker 1: so for the kids, it's like, well the parents all
Speaker 1: like say, went to Harvard from all over the country
Speaker 1: and moved to that location. So not everybody in that location.
Speaker 1: It can go to Harvard. So the pressure is to
Speaker 1: be in the top nine point six of a people.
Speaker 1: So it's like your capacity to survive the anxiety of
Speaker 1: slipping just a fraction of a percentile and outcome is
Speaker 1: perceived as catastrophic by your family and your peers. So
Speaker 1: when most people where I grew up go out to
Speaker 1: go do what they call recreational ship on the weekends,
Speaker 1: it's just get away from that goddamn pressure cooker. Ain't
Speaker 1: that fucking crazy? And that's why people it is scary.
Speaker 1: That is a real truth. Like somebody from from from
Speaker 1: the hook look at them and it's like, no, but
Speaker 1: that don't change that. That's pressure beyond to somebody else,
Speaker 1: Like they frustrated they got into U C. L A.
Speaker 1: And we're like, well, you're right, your kids getting college. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't even make me. Just go trust me with
Speaker 1: the bid. You don't want to tell nobody you got,
Speaker 1: like I'm telling you, like when I was in again,
Speaker 1: do you see l A. It's cool? But like here's
Speaker 1: like what the morsel is is, Like the biggest anxiety
Speaker 1: record where I grew up is the academic progress supports
Speaker 1: coming out in the mail, and they usually come out
Speaker 1: one of two days. This is real ship when I
Speaker 1: was in eleven, Like, if you're in eleventh grade, and
Speaker 1: I mean you went out of your area to go
Speaker 1: to school, but you probably would pull to what Jordan
Speaker 1: or lock Jordans. Okay, so I went to Paramount. I
Speaker 1: know you went to Paramount, but that's not where you
Speaker 1: that's a transfer paperwork. So like if you're like I
Speaker 1: would be in like a p U S History in
Speaker 1: the eleventh grade, for example, if I showed up with
Speaker 1: a C plus in that class, I'll be scared to death.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is gonna be like I'm gonna get butchered.
Speaker 1: If if if my parents intercept that thing that says
Speaker 1: after six weeks of school and I gotta C plus
Speaker 1: an AP history, life is great. Well, I think that's
Speaker 1: fair in the hood, if your parents are if your
Speaker 1: parents are half asked aware seas in the hood or not,
Speaker 1: nobody that's the thing that is common. Nobody's showing off
Speaker 1: seas even place one. No, I'm saying nobody's showing off
Speaker 1: sees either place. Yeah, but yeah, and and it kind
Speaker 1: of expound on that. I think that there's a lot
Speaker 1: that we can take from other cultures and other communities
Speaker 1: that actually can bring in this wealth building. What's what
Speaker 1: we need in the in the in the you know,
Speaker 1: the poverished communities, because a lot of poverished communities are
Speaker 1: in a situation where that some of the deck is
Speaker 1: already stacked against them in certain ways, right, and then
Speaker 1: that aspect, it's gonna be a macro level, multifaceted many years,
Speaker 1: blood sweat and tears in order to like shift some
Speaker 1: of the those structures or systems that are in place. Right.
Speaker 1: But the biggest thing that I think that poverished communities
Speaker 1: can do is help educate and present a full picture, right,
Speaker 1: more of the book, more chapters than what we've done before.
Speaker 1: And I try to like I go, uh, this is
Speaker 1: probably about fifteen years ago. I helped open a church
Speaker 1: and Wattson Imperial Courts and then uh right, right, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: So then I did a garden project and Nickerson Gardens
Speaker 1: just on and so forth Right, we did garden healthy.
Speaker 1: We did something so simple, right, we did like healthy
Speaker 1: food concepts. Right, So we go to the garden and
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, miss Hooper from Nickerson.
Speaker 1: But she's yeah, man, if you if you're from the hood,
Speaker 1: you know her. Right. So we go we hang out
Speaker 1: with Miss Hooper and the kids and so on and
Speaker 1: so forth. We go to the garden. We figure out
Speaker 1: where the greens are, you know, the best ones to
Speaker 1: pick out some of the other vegetables and so on
Speaker 1: and so forth, and we pick them out. We get
Speaker 1: a barbecue pit, and we get some some chefs. We
Speaker 1: bring some chefs in and we talked about the healthy concepts.
Speaker 1: We cooked the food right there, and we grub out
Speaker 1: every single week. And what this did, what's is like
Speaker 1: simple you're saying, you know, you're just having a meal, right,
Speaker 1: But now what you're doing was impressing into the community
Speaker 1: the eye the value behind the nutrition that we have
Speaker 1: sometimes neglected in our in our poverished communities. You look
Speaker 1: at poplished communities, nutrition is like a huge your head. No, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: because think about like right where you at, you can't
Speaker 1: get fresh pruduce, fresh produce. So so that's ill that
Speaker 1: that did that Homie Sticks tried to do like he
Speaker 1: does stuff like that too, But that's I was just yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's across the board, right, because like there's two
Speaker 1: fronts that have to be fought in this situation, right
Speaker 1: one frost one front is going to be in a
Speaker 1: macro situation, mostly faceted, many systems, system chances are gonna happen.
Speaker 1: The other front is mic, which happens with us leaders
Speaker 1: right that we we we are. There are certain people
Speaker 1: that already know their leaders, right, and they know that
Speaker 1: when they come in, they command the room, they command
Speaker 1: the presence of the community, and they get the buying
Speaker 1: from the community even if you weren't even from that
Speaker 1: community originally, right, And so what what you do with
Speaker 1: that is, you know, an opportunity to to make a
Speaker 1: clearer picture for folks. And then they start to jump
Speaker 1: into these other opportunities where they're like, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: can I can see myself going beyond. It's a lack
Speaker 1: of expulsion. And and it's tough because right because I
Speaker 1: agree with you, I feel like and this is something
Speaker 1: to me, Pete talk about consistently. I've talked to King
Speaker 1: it's not on them nocause and the older the older
Speaker 1: people and this again and a lot of that, like
Speaker 1: I was thinking about the other day, like as far
Speaker 1: as not to like dogs looking to a political thing.
Speaker 1: But I'd like people to understand how to follow money,
Speaker 1: you know, like you have to be able to follow
Speaker 1: money to understand what's happening where you live. We gotta
Speaker 1: have something. No, I'm not even talking about your money.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the money that exists over you. Well,
Speaker 1: you gotta have something. I know that sounds crazy, Um,
Speaker 1: not for glasses. Tell me. You can tell me a
Speaker 1: thousand things and I'll be like, damn, Pete, you can
Speaker 1: put me on game that's your personal finance. Well it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not just that, right, it's not just even watching minds.
Speaker 1: You can tell me about something else and I watch
Speaker 1: it that don't have nothing to do. Yeah, you'll watch it,
Speaker 1: but you understand how to watch it. Well. But but
Speaker 1: but I hear what you're saying. You're saying you gotta
Speaker 1: have something. And one thing that I was the average
Speaker 1: person for the average person, you gotta have some. But
Speaker 1: one thing I had challenged us to do is we've
Speaker 1: got to have our minds have the ability to know
Speaker 1: how to get that. Because we teach people how to
Speaker 1: get money a lot of times impoverished communities, and sometimes
Speaker 1: we teach them the ill ways to get it. Are
Speaker 1: the ways that we'll have more, I should say, right,
Speaker 1: but we're doing We're telling them something right, either through
Speaker 1: the music videos, through O G. That's down the street,
Speaker 1: right through a cousin or this, that and the other.
Speaker 1: You're finding little ways to hustle. Everyone's finding ways to hustle.
Speaker 1: Hustle is like, you know, the second oldest things you
Speaker 1: know in the world that we do. Right. But if
Speaker 1: you teach people to hustle and float in a way
Speaker 1: that creates less risks, that's not gonna necessarily leave you
Speaker 1: behind bars are six ft under, so on and so forth,
Speaker 1: then it starts to give them that next option. Right.
Speaker 1: Because when I was young again, I wanted to be
Speaker 1: an owner, and I flipped. I didn't I didn't flip crack, right,
Speaker 1: but I flipped candy. Right. I go to the store,
Speaker 1: I got to, you know, pick up candy. Let's say
Speaker 1: I would get it for four or four dollar, right.
Speaker 1: Then I would go to my school was solder for
Speaker 1: you know, a dollar apiece, and I cut the market
Speaker 1: and I sold them for fifty cents a piece, right,
Speaker 1: So I made you know, each piece, I made you know,
Speaker 1: double my money, right, and all it was all I
Speaker 1: was doing was all right, I saw a market, I
Speaker 1: saw opportunity, I saw people, and I went in and
Speaker 1: I came. I came in underneath what they were offering,
Speaker 1: and that's how I stacked my chips. But to even
Speaker 1: see that, and I don't and I think that older man,
Speaker 1: I think that older man, we know how to do this. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think they should once you get older. But
Speaker 1: but again, now it's like those opportunities still aren't there
Speaker 1: until we until we bring part of the two aspects.
Speaker 1: We got to bring them there, right we got like
Speaker 1: we was listening to that uh that video that was
Speaker 1: talking about the fact that hey man, why don't why
Speaker 1: are we not stacking chips and running businesses in our
Speaker 1: own communities? Right? Like, that's that's huge. Like the older
Speaker 1: people in the community, we have to gather around and say,
Speaker 1: can we find ways to keep resources in here, improve
Speaker 1: them and teach the others? Right, Because it's kind of
Speaker 1: like Nohl's bar out there sometimes, man, I feel like
Speaker 1: everyone's like fighting for themselves. And if you look at
Speaker 1: a different culture type, and you look at a different
Speaker 1: community type, whether poverish or unmpoverished, they're sticking together and
Speaker 1: as a village. Well, I think. I think also it depends,
Speaker 1: like like even if we compare it to the struggle
Speaker 1: of of our Mexican brothers, they come from a whole
Speaker 1: the way the way we visualize struggling to them, but
Speaker 1: they stick together well because I think because they don't
Speaker 1: stay together in Mexico, but here they do. It's what
Speaker 1: you're saying, because this is not once you make that trip,
Speaker 1: you take them fucking what is that miles? Four hundred miles?
Speaker 1: Your commitment is different if you if you travel from
Speaker 1: you know, Michu Khan or Senna Lore from there to here,
Speaker 1: your commitment to success nine point nine percent of the
Speaker 1: times is completely different than somebody who just wakes up here.
Speaker 1: Like if you come from t J and you start
Speaker 1: illegally crossing borders, risking your kids freedom, your commitment to
Speaker 1: a better life is completely unique because if you go there,
Speaker 1: they got the same problems. Motherfucker's getting gunned down over
Speaker 1: different ship. It's different crews trying to get money as cartels.
Speaker 1: It's a thousand things happening right where people are having
Speaker 1: issues and they're dealing with them primitively. But the ones
Speaker 1: that we get that's here, right, that's coming back to
Speaker 1: take back this land that was there. Bro. That's a
Speaker 1: different like that's that's like if somebody you know, decided
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a job and the jobs are
Speaker 1: in Detroit. They opened up the factories, the GM factories
Speaker 1: and the four Factories back in Detroit now and they
Speaker 1: all booming. If you move your ship from l A
Speaker 1: to Detroit, commitment different. So I think to compare it
Speaker 1: at times, it's almost a disservice in the hood because
Speaker 1: all I experience like that hood, like if you've been
Speaker 1: to T. J. Watts is like Beverly Hills. That's disrespectful,
Speaker 1: but it's true. Like when you see some of the
Speaker 1: spots that people live in ship with no roofs. You
Speaker 1: could go like Google's street image like almost anywhere on
Speaker 1: the earth, like like where you can look at what
Speaker 1: it looks like from the middle of the street there.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, when you really think about most
Speaker 1: ghettos around America, the way they look l a ghetto
Speaker 1: just don't have that same significant down look real nice.
Speaker 1: It's like nice. Like if when I take people to Compton,
Speaker 1: maybe like this is Compton. It's like, yeah, this is right.
Speaker 1: But if I sing you to the liquor store at
Speaker 1: the Miracle Market, don't matter that it's a meat market there,
Speaker 1: don't matter that this is across the street from the
Speaker 1: Richland Farm area for me, and there's a Louisiana chicken
Speaker 1: as an air import across the street. If you walk
Speaker 1: in that store, there's a decent chance you may be shot.
Speaker 1: So I guess the point I'm saying when we're talking
Speaker 1: about the hood is I don't. I don't, And this
Speaker 1: is where Pete I think me and a lot of
Speaker 1: people disagree. I think we have to teach, right, that's
Speaker 1: our job, Like this brother said, like you're saying we
Speaker 1: have to teach because it's gonna reach. If it reached
Speaker 1: one out of a hundred, it was worth it because
Speaker 1: it's teaching. But if we want to help ninety out
Speaker 1: of the hundred, it's going to be on its elite
Speaker 1: leaders to bring the opportunities there. That's what I was
Speaker 1: saying when I say follow the money, like, I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about Yeah, I'm not talking about personal finance. I'm
Speaker 1: saying like that there isn't uh a lot of resources.
Speaker 1: It's like on an individual basis to be able to
Speaker 1: really like, I mean, you can advocate, but you can't lobby,
Speaker 1: you know, politically. So when there is a block of
Speaker 1: allotment of capital that goes to three middle schools and
Speaker 1: Watch or whatever the hell it is, people in that
Speaker 1: neighborhood need to be really, really dialed in on where
Speaker 1: the funk the money is going, because it never gets there.
Speaker 1: It never gets there. But to tell a bunch of
Speaker 1: people who already believe the system is against them that
Speaker 1: they're being deprived of money that should be going to them,
Speaker 1: they would be like, yeah, exactly, So I'm watching the
Speaker 1: money right. I'm understanding why it was important to separate
Speaker 1: Wats from willow Brook or Rancho Dominus from Compton. I'm
Speaker 1: paying attention to why on Alameda what's going on. I've
Speaker 1: always paid attention before I even and understood anything about economics.
Speaker 1: I always thought that was strange when you're in the
Speaker 1: hood of Compton, or you in the hood of Watch
Speaker 1: and you look down Alamed that's all these warehouses, yet
Speaker 1: nobody can get a job that has a livable ways
Speaker 1: always noticed that before anyone, nobody ever explained that that
Speaker 1: was a problem. I knew it was a problem it's like,
Speaker 1: that's weird, Like and then you start learning about how
Speaker 1: they build urban communities and they built them to live,
Speaker 1: work and play and everything within walking distance, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: so when y'all built this, y'all knew you were building
Speaker 1: these houses, you know, based off of these businesses. That's
Speaker 1: why you do it. Like Hershey, right, Hershey, Pennsylvania. John
Speaker 1: Hershey right uh, I think that's his name, right. He
Speaker 1: created the factories in Pennsylvania in Hershey, in the center
Speaker 1: that called the Hershey and then he built houses where
Speaker 1: you could live here while you work here. So I
Speaker 1: totally understand it. But imagine those people that live in Hershey,
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania that was working there. You get all of those
Speaker 1: people out of the Hershey, Pennsylvania factories and now people
Speaker 1: from let's say Philadelphia, which I don't think that's even close,
Speaker 1: but let's say from Philadelphia right there driving now, and
Speaker 1: they're working at the factory. What happens to the town
Speaker 1: that's Hershey, Pennsylvania when there's no gigs close? For sure?
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the issue is with that
Speaker 1: is Hey. I mean, you've got people who work for
Speaker 1: forty freaking years and they move and be if there
Speaker 1: was an effort to say, all right, well, this is
Speaker 1: gonna pull people from these four high school so we're
Speaker 1: gonna throw a bunch of money together so that we
Speaker 1: can have these people adequately trained to walk right out
Speaker 1: of high school into these jobs and have something on
Speaker 1: paper that says that there ready to rock and roll today.
Speaker 1: The problem was with a lot of those high schools
Speaker 1: is the ten million dollars buys one drill and elevates
Speaker 1: everybody's retirement pension. Ah, And that's just a fact. Well, again,
Speaker 1: that still speaks to the corruptness of the elite, of course,
Speaker 1: because if it's if it's people in the educational system
Speaker 1: of Compton High School or Compton School District and ten
Speaker 1: million dollars is disappearing and Compton, to me, I think
Speaker 1: that's partial because because then that would speak of a
Speaker 1: place that doesn't have systemic oppression. That would speak on
Speaker 1: we're doing the right thing and you're not doing the
Speaker 1: right thing with the economics. And I don't think it's
Speaker 1: as simple as that. I do think there are some
Speaker 1: cases where that's happening, but I don't think that's the
Speaker 1: consistent consensus of what's happening. I do think generally they're
Speaker 1: doing things to make sure the money doesn't get there,
Speaker 1: and and that would be the thing to do. Now
Speaker 1: why is a different question. I think it's a few things.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a complicated question. I mean, Compton is
Speaker 1: a lot different than l A. Just I mean Centennial
Speaker 1: versus Lock. Are they on the same street. No, they're
Speaker 1: not the same street, but there you can walk from
Speaker 1: one to the other. Um one of them is l
Speaker 1: A u s D, which is the largest school district
Speaker 1: in America, and the other one it's a city of
Speaker 1: ninety people. I mean like it's its own school district.
Speaker 1: You know the mayor, you know the city council. It's small.
Speaker 1: It's easy to get watered down if you're in l
Speaker 1: A school because you're part of such a giant thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I still think the elite level schools in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Unified School District benefit a certain way. And again, Pete,
Speaker 1: my belief, and this is my problem, this is my issue.
Speaker 1: I don't believe it's on America to take care of us.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. And that could be like a
Speaker 1: very conservative way of thought. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think it's on every citizen. But I also app
Speaker 1: this is right, but this is the socialist belief in me,
Speaker 1: that it's on the community itself to care for saying community, well,
Speaker 1: this is just the way I'm saying that the community
Speaker 1: can care for itself by managing its appropriations of capital
Speaker 1: a little bit more like, I mean it's that you
Speaker 1: say this. I'm not saying black panthers back all over again,
Speaker 1: but I mean the Black panthers, I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: they That's a portion of what they did, right, the
Speaker 1: old school gang community and culture. That was a aspect
Speaker 1: of what happened, is they took in the community and
Speaker 1: all of its concerns and needs and trying to bring
Speaker 1: a coalition around to help improve and shift and change
Speaker 1: certain things within the community. Right. So if you're talking
Speaker 1: about I think there's a little bit of a victim
Speaker 1: of their own bad branding. Well, no, it's not necessarily branding.
Speaker 1: It's not that it's been a shift of the direction
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, right, But but in terms
Speaker 1: of in terms of things that we could do within
Speaker 1: our own commun city, whether it be through a coalition
Speaker 1: of a group I a Black panther or a gang
Speaker 1: or just a coalition of a community. Right would be
Speaker 1: to buy the things in the actual community that we
Speaker 1: live in and own them businesses. I don't care if
Speaker 1: it's a grocery store, I don't care if it's a
Speaker 1: franchise of McDonald's. Buy them, keep them, pass them down.
Speaker 1: And a lot of times you see those that get
Speaker 1: the money and the wealth, they're out, they're gone, and
Speaker 1: the people who own they own the community. The people
Speaker 1: who own the businesses own the community. And we think
Speaker 1: that we own the community because we live in it
Speaker 1: and we rep it, and because if someone comes on
Speaker 1: our block, we'll smoke them if we don't want them.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't. I don't. Again, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's as simple as that. I do agree with
Speaker 1: you with the first part. I agree with the fact
Speaker 1: that the people who own the businesses own the community.
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't think we like we want
Speaker 1: to just hold the block down when you have only this,
Speaker 1: this is all you have. You protected vigorously because it's
Speaker 1: all you have. And I'm a risk right because you
Speaker 1: have Yeah, so, bro, I mean I ain't had nothing
Speaker 1: when I started, right, I had nothing, so I can't
Speaker 1: lose from not from food stamps. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We have to go double cupe on days, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, walking down trying to find quarters and
Speaker 1: nickels and dimes just to get a little three these
Speaker 1: all right at ice cream. So for me and a
Speaker 1: lot of folks in our community, we don't necessarily have
Speaker 1: anything right, and we have this concept that the thing
Speaker 1: that kills me the most is we have a concept
Speaker 1: it's kind of like we do the Stockholm syndrome with
Speaker 1: our with the finances that we think we have, we're
Speaker 1: moneyed up so much quote unquote that we don't want
Speaker 1: to lose it or perceive the thought of losing it,
Speaker 1: and we don't want to take the risk that's actually
Speaker 1: more of a healthier risk. So we'll we'll stay on
Speaker 1: some type of government assistance situation so we can keep
Speaker 1: that thing flowing in and not get like a legitimate job,
Speaker 1: so we can keep the flow of the money getting
Speaker 1: I mean, I have people and people that say that, right,
Speaker 1: But I think that's a very minute percentage of I'm
Speaker 1: not disagreed, cause I know, well, I'm not saying just
Speaker 1: just that, right, I'm saying the concept. Well, I think
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, right, I
Speaker 1: don't think such crappy as that saying right, because I've
Speaker 1: heard that point and I know people who think like that.
Speaker 1: It is a stream of consistent income that's available that
Speaker 1: should work your ass off to keep. Now that is
Speaker 1: crazy because it's off the government. Right, But then again
Speaker 1: it becomes a thousand different things. I think the issue
Speaker 1: is when you don't try to get more than that revenue.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, so take the government out. So
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said that, right, take the government right, So,
Speaker 1: because because that's my frustration. It is like you have
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars a month, but there's a potential earning
Speaker 1: that you may not be aware of yet that your
Speaker 1: community can speak to you on. Matize it right. The
Speaker 1: trauma makes you believe you don't reach because if you reach, right,
Speaker 1: it's not even just Stockholm right, um into intellect makes
Speaker 1: you realize our conquerence anyway, like rap, like rap has
Speaker 1: never whop, like rap could be whooping my ass and
Speaker 1: it ain't never knocked me out, Like no matter how
Speaker 1: challenging has been to do certain things, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to figure out how to get it. Like my
Speaker 1: intellect always allows me to be like, oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make this plan to me back up, how do I
Speaker 1: that's not consistent, Like if you keep slapping one person,
Speaker 1: if they don't have what you have, they'll just stop
Speaker 1: coming around you. They won't even try to to to
Speaker 1: topple you. So it's it's it's tough because I've heard
Speaker 1: that point from certain people. They're be like, gee, man,
Speaker 1: why would somebody want to stick on accounting? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: because it's the consistent. It's the most consistent thing in
Speaker 1: your community that's available that you can see. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's statistically like, I think it's more preflem you give
Speaker 1: credit to that human behavioral mindset, like you can see
Speaker 1: kind of like a seismic shift culturally on like a
Speaker 1: broader like the whole unit of states right now, right
Speaker 1: now people well, yeah, we're looking at it happen people
Speaker 1: outside of the that and then get a job. But additionally,
Speaker 1: just the concept in general of I don't know where
Speaker 1: all the bell curve the actual line is, but it
Speaker 1: is substantial some probably majority of people that will choose
Speaker 1: security over opportunity. Most of the time. That's a great point.
Speaker 1: I never where he got because I would have never
Speaker 1: thought to look at it. Like the County check or
Speaker 1: s side is a level of security. But that's like
Speaker 1: if somebody's working a gig, my boy, Joey west Side
Speaker 1: is I'm working with this group. I'm marking this group
Speaker 1: called the l A Giants, And like he's good with
Speaker 1: the security of his career, right. It pays him a
Speaker 1: significant way to where he can afford his own lifestyle,
Speaker 1: but it bothers him because he worries about how it's
Speaker 1: gonna affect if he wants to pros to his lady
Speaker 1: take care of his family. But so he has this
Speaker 1: opportunity right where he's this incredible MC that makes great records,
Speaker 1: you know, really a bright guy. But it's so scary
Speaker 1: to to stop putting time into the security part. And
Speaker 1: this is the difference in the County. This is a
Speaker 1: gig where he's making money, and he's like, uh no,
Speaker 1: I don't gotta wrap it up, nig I could this
Speaker 1: my show? I go for three hours? Why is you
Speaker 1: trying to make me wrap it up? You spoil the ship.
Speaker 1: This ship don't at the end of the hour. If
Speaker 1: it's more games. Ship. You're tired, you sleepy? Tell you so?
Speaker 1: So like Joe, Okay, we're gonna wrap up a kid.
Speaker 1: So when y'all asked me why the podcast isn't longer
Speaker 1: than hour? Puff, y'all get on his instagram. What's king?
Speaker 1: What's what's next? So when y'all asking me, So, when
Speaker 1: y'all asking me, why is it? Excuse me? It is
Speaker 1: that should be five hours. If you're asking me, why
Speaker 1: is it? Uh no ceilings longer than the hour? It's
Speaker 1: fucking puff funt. So go to his instagram, O G
Speaker 1: King DMC and tell him I want longer than an hour.
Speaker 1: So let me fit at this point where and you
Speaker 1: can figure out the way to wrap it up Pete,
Speaker 1: like we always do. You get a point in Peter,
Speaker 1: figure out how to wrap it up. The point I'm
Speaker 1: saying is he has his career right, and it's a
Speaker 1: great gig. He's making good money, right, He's able to
Speaker 1: afford his own lifestyle. But he worries that if he
Speaker 1: wants to, you know, start a family or make a
Speaker 1: bigger family, he's not gonna be able to afford, you know,
Speaker 1: to go out as a man. The way we've been
Speaker 1: taught how to provide for the whole house. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: has his opportunity with this record company that I helped
Speaker 1: him start, right, that's his own company, and I'm marketing
Speaker 1: it right, and you can actually make as much or
Speaker 1: whatever you want. You're not there's no ceiling. It's you know,
Speaker 1: it's not an hour, it's not a hustle. But it's
Speaker 1: so hard for him to start taking I'm away from
Speaker 1: his security, right and then invest in his security and
Speaker 1: didn't invest in um his opportunity, that the possibilities. It's tough.
Speaker 1: So it's not just this thing in the hood where
Speaker 1: it's just the county. It's even careers. You have some
Speaker 1: of the most brilliant minds. Still, my manager, my big
Speaker 1: bro still is like a brilliant mind if you're sitting
Speaker 1: and talk the States, brilliant. But his security and desire
Speaker 1: to make sure he's provided for his wife and his
Speaker 1: you know, his kids. Now, the two of them, a
Speaker 1: grown one of them in usc one of them's gonna
Speaker 1: open up prone nail shot. They're fucking all brilliant kids.
Speaker 1: Exactly a couple of days, right, So kid for to
Speaker 1: go pro, but he will not step away from his gig.
Speaker 1: So I think, like he said, that's the human condition.
Speaker 1: But for a perfect example, stops not even close um
Speaker 1: king puff for example, he would not go drive a
Speaker 1: truck right now out right. So he's so y'all all
Speaker 1: know out there his situation and what he's been through
Speaker 1: and when he's overcoming to to get back on track
Speaker 1: with life, never to get back on the same track,
Speaker 1: but to get back in the path of God in
Speaker 1: the light of going where you're supposed to go in
Speaker 1: this world, my destiny, destiny right, he's not fit to
Speaker 1: go draw no fucking truck. He don't give a funk
Speaker 1: if they pay him four hundred dollars a day. That's
Speaker 1: about to go work for nobody myself. So his ante
Speaker 1: lay won't even allow him that soul it's something built
Speaker 1: in the equipment or something you become exposed to. I
Speaker 1: think it's something that you come e supposed to, but
Speaker 1: not for me and you but not for me. Was like,
Speaker 1: don't do whatever I want to do anyway different My
Speaker 1: mo mom told me that from jump right from rep so,
Speaker 1: I mean a couple of things that maybe could help
Speaker 1: in the situation. I know we're gonna wrap up but
Speaker 1: these things here, right, so more man mentors impoverised areas. Man,
Speaker 1: it would be a game changer. And uh may very
Speaker 1: family unit will be a game changer in the regards
Speaker 1: the wife supporting the goals of her man. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: it will shift the poverty line like nobody has seen before.
Speaker 1: It will bring us back to what we were trying
Speaker 1: to do. And Black Wall Street went burnt down and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So those two things I think would
Speaker 1: be huge for for the impoverished communities to get to
Speaker 1: get level. Yeah, and those and those things were particularly
Speaker 1: target to create that. Yeah, but you can just see
Speaker 1: it because yeah, I mean, I don't want to keep
Speaker 1: going over and over, keep keep all right, I guess
Speaker 1: why would you wrap it up? I mean to go
Speaker 1: off the point of like male mentors to look again,
Speaker 1: following the money, there's a governmental exploitation of neighborhoods like
Speaker 1: that because they are they're like vacuums for government funding dollars.
Speaker 1: So the best way to keep a neighborhood like that
Speaker 1: tethered to those government funding dollars is to remove male mentors.
Speaker 1: And an easy way to do that is, as we've
Speaker 1: seen statistically, is there are futable is through various social
Speaker 1: programs and stuff like that, where that where you make
Speaker 1: them a little obsolete it first, then you change the
Speaker 1: cultural layout and the next thing, you know, trip in
Speaker 1: the day, puffy beyond me out. If you believe this,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. You're giving like million dollars gam he like,
Speaker 1: hey man, I was. I was just gonna attack them
Speaker 1: on the idea of women backing their men's you know,
Speaker 1: pursuits and dreams. But just why why keep it toxic
Speaker 1: down to the wrap