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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: you hanging out with us Thursday edition of the program,

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Speaker 1: and we have got a ton to dive into with

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Speaker 1: all of you. Mary Margaret Olahan, who has been with

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Speaker 1: us on before, I think at the RNC, has done

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Speaker 1: really good work looking at Minnesota law as it pertains

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Speaker 1: to the shooting, which we're going to get more into today.

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Speaker 1: The next we hope Governor of Virginia wins some seers

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Speaker 1: will be on with us an hour two and then

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Speaker 1: Trey Goudy of Fox News, and we're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: ask him about some of the comments that he has

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Speaker 1: made that went megaviral on Fox News yesterday. He has

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Speaker 1: a book out, he was already scheduled to be on.

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Speaker 1: Each of those will be guests, respectively in the next

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Speaker 1: three hours.

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Speaker 2: But we begin with all of you.

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Speaker 1: And the continued fallout from the awful attack yesterday where

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Speaker 1: a trans terrorist shooter with kill Donald Trump written on

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Speaker 1: the gun. Six million was not enough anti submitic commentary, evil,

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Speaker 1: true evil that was brought to bear in that attack yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and as more details have come out, I just want

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Speaker 1: to lay this out for you and I would say.

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Speaker 1: My statement right off the top is it's time for

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Speaker 1: good people, mom's dads, grandma's grandpas, all of you out

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Speaker 1: there that cares about kids to really significantly stop trying

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Speaker 1: to be kind and be willing to acknowledge that almost

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Speaker 1: everyone who is claiming that their trans has a severe

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Speaker 1: mental illness. And this is a perfect example I think

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Speaker 1: of toxic empathy. You're trying to be kind, you're trying

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Speaker 1: to work with the kid. In almost all circumstances, that's

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Speaker 1: going to make things worse. And this situation which we

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Speaker 1: just went through in Minneapolis is a horrible echo of

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Speaker 1: what happened in Nashville, Tennessee, back just less than two

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Speaker 1: years ago, I believe, and let me lay this out.

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Speaker 1: You had, in both situations a transshooter who had attended

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Speaker 1: a religious school decide that, in the case of Nashville,

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Speaker 1: a girl who was trying to transition to being a boy,

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Speaker 1: in the case of Minneapolis, a boy who was trying

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Speaker 1: to transition to being a girl. Miners who received treatments

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Speaker 1: for their trans delusions decided to go into those schools

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Speaker 1: and try to murder as many young Christian kids as possible.

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Speaker 1: In both situations, they pre stalked their site. They made

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Speaker 1: the decision to try to kill as many people as possible. Buck,

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Speaker 1: as we were just sitting down to start the show,

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Speaker 1: you shared a tweet from Caitlin Collins CNN which says

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Speaker 1: that this killer had been touring the school basically to

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Speaker 1: try to find out the way to kill as many

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Speaker 1: people as possible. It is true evil, and I think

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Speaker 1: the evil, frankly, is being accelerated, is being exacerbated, is

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Speaker 1: being made worse by the fact that these people are

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Speaker 1: on all sorts of drugs, trying to in some way

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Speaker 1: alter the biological reality of their sex. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's making frankly, them more likely to be violent. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's time for reasonable people to stand up

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Speaker 1: against this and say we have to stop this.

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Speaker 3: The mass murder of children here. Pretended that he was

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Speaker 3: going to go back to the church, or that he

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Speaker 3: was trying to come back into the church as a

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Speaker 3: believer and had a previous affiliation with it, so used

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Speaker 3: the connection that he had had previously as a cover

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Speaker 3: for the operational surveillance that he did of a school

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Speaker 3: with kids in it. A defense the school with kids

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Speaker 3: in it. Demons live among us, and this person was

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Speaker 3: a demon. And there are so many, unfortunately different factors

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Speaker 3: that go into this, and our society is making a

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Speaker 3: lot of this stuff worse, making a lot of what

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Speaker 3: I think could be handled earlier on. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: the biggest one for me is the ideology of trans

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Speaker 3: people are able to change their gender. And if you

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Speaker 3: don't believe this, you're a Nazi and you are committing genocide.

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Speaker 3: And this is there's language like this all over the

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Speaker 3: internet right now in response what happened yesterday. That is

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Speaker 3: completely insane. It is absolutely reckless. It reminds me Clay

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Speaker 3: of the of the first BLM, the first BLM series

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Speaker 3: of protests after Ferguson, there were all these marches and

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Speaker 3: I went to cover these rallies and you could just go.

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Speaker 3: You'd see at the rallies they were just talking about

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Speaker 3: evil racist cops killing black men all the time, all

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Speaker 3: the time, day in and day out. And it's a lie.

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Speaker 3: It's horrible, it's disgraceful, and I understand that most people

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Speaker 3: really stupid and vote Democrat. But some people do more

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Speaker 3: than that because they see mobs of people channing the

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Speaker 3: same slogan. And that ended with I believe it was

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Speaker 3: BLM maniac who was like, look, these cops are killing

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Speaker 3: on armed black men. I need to step in and

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Speaker 3: do something about this, and he murdered police officers in

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Speaker 3: cold blood. I think it was five of them. Horrific

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Speaker 3: by the media is completely memory hold that. You know

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Speaker 3: when the media says that if you don't want people

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Speaker 3: to have socialized medicine, you're hoping they die from cancer.

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Speaker 3: By the way, we don't even talk really about healthcare anymore.

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Speaker 3: The Democrats have just made healthcare worse in every respect

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Speaker 3: in this country. Obamacare is an absolute failure and in

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Speaker 3: every metric you can look at in terms of price,

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Speaker 3: in terms of access, all it did gives you is

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Speaker 3: coveras you don't use and an excuse to have you

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Speaker 3: subsidized illegals and other people who are in the country.

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Speaker 3: So but put that aside for a second. The guy

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Speaker 3: who is shooting at rand Paul and others and shot

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Speaker 3: stavescalis at that baseball Diamond was saying, this is for healthcare. Well,

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Speaker 3: you could say, well, oh, you can't blame somebody for

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Speaker 3: you can't blame an ideology for one person's actions. Well,

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Speaker 3: if the ideology is you're murdering people en mass because

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Speaker 3: of your policy, if you take it to that extent,

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Speaker 3: and this is what brings me then to Trump, They

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Speaker 3: say that Trump is even Gavin Newsom, We can play this.

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Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom is a is a shameless, soulless liar, a

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Speaker 3: power mad, narcissistic, vile human being, and he's saying that

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Speaker 3: he doesn't think there's going to be an election in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight. Now, for most Democrats who hear that,

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Speaker 3: it's just oh, yeah, I hate Trump. You hate Trump.

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Speaker 3: This is a way of expressing our Trump hatred because

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Speaker 3: he's gonna seize power forever. But for some people, they

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Speaker 3: hear this and they go hold on. The governor of

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Speaker 3: California is saying this, Clay. The New York Times is

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Speaker 3: going along with this kind of rhetoric. You know, CNN

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Speaker 3: is going along.

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Speaker 2: CNN last night they referred to.

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Speaker 3: This guy as a she.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, we need to play that audio. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well we'll get to that.

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Speaker 3: Here. Look here, here's Newsom. I mean, I know that

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Speaker 3: you've already called them out on this cut twenty is

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Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom saying that there won't be an election in

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Speaker 3: twenty eight. Play it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Donald Trump wants another election. You think

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Speaker 4: for a second you want I have two dozen Trump

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight hats his folks keep sending me. Who

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Speaker 4: spends two hundred million dollars on a ballroom at their

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Speaker 4: home and then leaves the house.

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Speaker 3: This is serious, guys, This is serious.

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Speaker 5: So it'll be Newsome Trump in twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: No, No, this is there's no This guy doesn't believe in free,

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Speaker 4: fair elections. He could try to wreck this country.

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Speaker 2: Will be did you there?

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Speaker 4: January sixth, I mean he tried to light democracy on fire.

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Speaker 4: He dialed for eleven almost twelve thousand votes. Now he's

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Speaker 4: doing it in a plain sight, and people said, oh,

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Speaker 4: just Trump being Trump. People actually think this guy's serious

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Speaker 4: about having another election. You think he's joking about twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty eight. Wake up, you will lose your country again.

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Speaker 4: It's not about Democrats or but it's about.

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Speaker 3: All of us. You're absolutely convinced.

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Speaker 4: I'm absolutely twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 6: You've seen it.

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Speaker 4: He's tried to steal the last election. He tried to

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Speaker 4: trying to rig it in plain sight.

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Speaker 3: This time, you will lose your country, Clay, he's a

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Speaker 3: dictator in the making. You will lose everything you will

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Speaker 3: hold deer. He's either a liar, which we all know

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Speaker 3: he is, or he's so crazy that he doesn't understand

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Speaker 3: that people hear this and they take him seriously.

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Speaker 1: The second would be Trump assassin. Almost no one even

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Speaker 1: talks about assassination two point zero at the Trump West

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Speaker 1: Palm Beach golf course, where the guy I laid in

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Speaker 1: wait all day with his gun and Trump was playing

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Speaker 1: golf and he came within a hole. Nobody ever asked

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Speaker 1: how did that guy know that Trump was going to

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Speaker 1: even know who that guy is. What did he say

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Speaker 1: was the reason why he was trying to kill Trump?

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Speaker 1: Because he believed Democrat rhetoric that Trump was a dictator,

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Speaker 1: mental health issues, as many people who engage in acts

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Speaker 1: acted presupposed that what was said was true, that Trump

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Speaker 1: him would be justified.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: That is the process in his mind through which he went.

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Speaker 1: When Gavin Newsom is telling you this, he is saying

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Speaker 1: And I just tweeted, Hey, Gavin Newsom, I'll bet you

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars that we have an election in twenty

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Speaker 1: I don't think Gavin Newsom actually believes what he's saying.

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Speaker 1: He's saying it because he thinks he gets political advantage

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Speaker 1: you tell crazy people crazy things. Well, there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of crazy Democrats. I've also said before that.

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Speaker 3: I think if you looked at male testosterone levels, you

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Speaker 3: all that stuff. I mean, the Democrats are the party

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Speaker 3: when you have people at the very top of that

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Speaker 3: On the right. They'll find some person who's just like

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Speaker 8: their kids to the doctor, are going to be told

436
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Speaker 8: that their kid is transgender. They'll be asked, would you

437
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Speaker 8: rather have a dead daughter or a living son or

438
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Speaker 8: vice versa. And this is a question post to parents

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Speaker 8: pretty much across the board. Every d transitioner that I've

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Speaker 8: spoke with has told me their parents were given this ultimatum.

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Speaker 8: We don't know this for sure yet, but it's possible

442
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Speaker 8: that this trans identifying shooter that killed kids at Annunciation

443
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Speaker 8: Church yesterday, it's possible that his mother faced the same

444
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Speaker 8: question and conundrum and they don't know what to do

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Speaker 8: about it. And so my advice would be, do your research.

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Speaker 8: When your child comes to you and says hey mom,

447
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Speaker 8: if your little girl comes to you and says, hey mom,

448
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Speaker 8: I'm a boy, don't fall prey to the anxieties. Don't

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Speaker 8: trust medical institution, do some basic research and realize you're

450
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Speaker 8: not alone. There's many, many other kids that have come

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Speaker 8: up against this ideology due to social media, activist teachers,

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Speaker 8: activist therapists and doctors. Find community. Get your kid out

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Speaker 8: of this school that your child is at, because odds

454
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Speaker 8: are it's the school and the teachers that are pushing

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Speaker 8: this on them. Take their phone away from them. That

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Speaker 8: is the biggest, biggest danger that kids these days are facing.

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Speaker 8: Take their phone away from them. No laptops upstairs. These

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Speaker 8: are some of the biggest dangers that our kids are facing.

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Speaker 8: These and a lot of parents think that it's just

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Speaker 8: mean or you know, makes their child feel stupid to

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Speaker 8: not have that technology. Your child will benefit enormously from

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Speaker 8: not having access to transgender ideology online, I promise you.

463
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Speaker 8: So there's so many steps that can be taken, and

464
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Speaker 8: there's so many organizations that can help parents. Defending Education.

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Speaker 8: It's one organization that is really vociferous on this issue,

466
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Speaker 8: Do No Harm. They're really great. They've partnered with tons

467
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Speaker 8: of de transitioners, and then the d transitioners themselves, Chloe Cole, Precha, Maudsley,

468
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Speaker 8: all of these young women will speak out against the

469
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Speaker 8: dangers of this ideology, and frankly, their stories of the

470
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Speaker 8: reason I wrote my book because their stories are more

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Speaker 8: powerful than pretty much any argument that you or I

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Speaker 8: could present, because they've lived it, they know how dangerous

473
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Speaker 8: and horrible it is, they suffered through it, and now

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Speaker 8: they live to tell the tale, thank God. So I

475
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Speaker 8: consider their stories to be some of the most powerful,

476
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Speaker 8: and I would definitely refer parents and anyone any young

477
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Speaker 8: person that's questioning their gender to go and listen to

478
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Speaker 8: these stories and understands the gravity of what they're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Talking to Mary Margaret Olahan, DELI Wire's White House correspondent,

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Speaker 3: and Mary Margaret in your in your research on this issue.

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Speaker 3: As we just mentioned, you've written a book on this,

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Speaker 3: and you've been following this very closely. We had a

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Speaker 3: caller yesterday who raised a very good point. Client and

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Speaker 3: I have talked about it before, but the caller gave

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Speaker 3: us an important reminder of it. What is the when

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you've come up against this, and if you

487
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Speaker 3: look at these clinics and the doctors that are doing

488
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Speaker 3: these things, if the plumbing does not determine the gender

489
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Speaker 3: so to speak, what is the justification for these surgeries

490
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Speaker 3: that imperfectly to put it, mildly change the plumbing, Like,

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Speaker 3: what is the rationale behind that?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Because they'll say, it doesn't matter what the parts are,

494
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Speaker 3: it's what you feel that's gender. But then why do

495
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Speaker 3: we have this whole process of putting pharmaceuticals and puberty

496
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Speaker 3: blockers and all these things, and then even surgery to

497
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Speaker 3: change the plumbing, show to speak, if it doesn't make

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Speaker 3: a difference to gender.

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Speaker 8: Well you would have to ask some of these doctors

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Speaker 8: and therapists that, because they're the ones that with.

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Speaker 3: Very very very little Oh no, I get that, Mary Margant.

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Speaker 3: I'm just asking you. Have you ever heard any of

503
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Speaker 3: them try to explain or give any rationale for that,

504
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Speaker 3: because I do think it's a very important and powerful point.

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Speaker 8: What they try and do to rationalize it is to

506
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 8: just give you these platitudes, these ideological sayings. They'll try

507
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 8: and tell you that you don't understand because you're not

508
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 8: well versed in this ideology, but you're right at the

509
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Speaker 8: end of the day. It's one of those things where

510
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Speaker 8: I think Donald Trump Junior does a really good job

511
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Speaker 8: talking about this. He'll just say this is crazy or

512
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Speaker 8: wtf is going on? And that's kind of the real

513
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Speaker 8: response that everybody should be giving to it, because it's

514
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 8: as simple and basic as that. And actually it's one

515
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Speaker 8: of the reasons that Donald Trump won the last election

516
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Speaker 8: is because he kind of gave voice to that sentiment

517
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Speaker 8: as he was campaigning and saying this is just crazy.

518
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Speaker 8: You all know, this is crazy. We shouldn't have to

519
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Speaker 8: put up with this anymore, and we need to protect

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Speaker 8: our kids, and that campaign messaging really landed him in

521
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Speaker 8: the White House. We saw the polls that showed that

522
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Speaker 8: it did. It was some of its biggest campaign ads,

523
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Speaker 8: just showing people what Kamala Harris was saying about transgenderism,

524
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Speaker 8: and you know, helping illegal aliens in prison get sex

525
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Speaker 8: changes like this type of rhetoric is it's insane, and

526
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Speaker 8: most people don't agree with it. So I think that,

527
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Speaker 8: you know, we need to believe our we need to

528
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Speaker 8: believe what we're seeing, and we need to give voice

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Speaker 8: to that. And the Trumps, frankly, have been doing a

530
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Speaker 8: really good job of messaging on that. So they've been

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Speaker 8: very effective. And now Trump is president and he's been

532
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Speaker 8: enacting a lot of different executive orders fighting back on

533
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Speaker 8: this ideology. So I'm really interested in seeing what comes

534
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Speaker 8: next because you know, one one big question I have

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Speaker 8: for Caroline Levitt at this upcoming briefing is, look, we've

536
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Speaker 8: seen numerous trans identifying shooters targeting Christian kids. Is the

537
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Speaker 8: FBI going to start investigating this sphere of trans identifying

538
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Speaker 8: shooters targeting Christian kids? Is there going to be a

539
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Speaker 8: trans terrorism category? What are we going to see in

540
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Speaker 8: this area? Because it's time to stop pretending like this

541
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Speaker 8: isn't a pattern. And frankly, during the Biden administration, when

542
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Speaker 8: the Covenant Christian shooter targeted kids in Nashville, what we

543
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 8: saw there was the FBI hiding the manifesto they wouldn't

544
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Speaker 8: release it. They didn't want to tell everyone that this

545
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Speaker 8: shooter was trans and hated Jus and hated Christians and

546
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Speaker 8: was a deeply troubled, mentally ill figure. And we had

547
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Speaker 8: to actually rely on media outlets like Daily Wire to

548
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Speaker 8: show people what was actually going on. So I'm hoping

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Speaker 8: for more transparency here, for heavier investigations and more Well.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that you have been on this story and

551
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Speaker 3: others like the Covenant School shooting story, and I just

552
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Speaker 3: would remind everybody all of the rationales for they can't

553
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: share the Covenant shooting manifesto were either just guesses or

554
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Speaker 3: low depending on who you're talking about, because there was

555
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Speaker 3: no reason they couldn't have shared that manifesto. It was

556
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Speaker 3: pure suppression, pure politics. Mary Margaret Olahan of The Daily Wire,

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Speaker 3: I know you got to go run in and do

558
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Speaker 3: a whole West Wing briefing thing here, So good luck

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Speaker 3: to you on that, and please come back and talk

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Speaker 3: to us again soon.

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Speaker 8: Thanks so much for having me guys anytime.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in here too, Clay and Buck appreciate you

600
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Speaker 3: all being with us. We have some follow up on

601
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Speaker 3: yesterday's horrific shooting to bring to you. We just want

602
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Speaker 3: to make sure we're following a story closely, give you

603
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Speaker 3: all the details and also, yes, of course, this becomes

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Speaker 3: an issue of politics because the Democrats have rushed to

605
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Speaker 3: blame gun control, have rushed to mock prayer, and of

606
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Speaker 3: course to make sure that nobody thinks this has anything

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Speaker 3: to do with a trans arrangement syndrome situation that they're

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Speaker 3: very clear on that one, and I wanted to spend

609
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Speaker 3: some time on what is true here and what is

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Speaker 3: really going on with all of this. But I would

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Speaker 3: first say, Clay, fortunately, my assessment that the news we

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Speaker 3: were hearing out of the hospitals was indicative of most,

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Speaker 3: if not all, of the There were I believe adults

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Speaker 3: and children admitted for wounds from the mass shooting, and

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Speaker 3: there has been confirmation that they all made it, So

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Speaker 3: that is a blessing. And I would note a lot

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Speaker 3: of you were praying, I know you we were praying

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Speaker 3: here on this show while we were waiting for more

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Speaker 3: news of four who were in critical condition. Those are

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Speaker 3: the ones we were, of course most concerned about, and

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Speaker 3: the others who were stable. But they're all going home

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Speaker 3: to their families. That has been confirmed. You know, we

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Speaker 3: did lose we did lose two children to the horrific

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Speaker 3: terror attack trans terror attack in Minneapolis, but we also

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Speaker 3: have to take the good news where it comes and

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Speaker 3: how we can, and the good news is that those

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Speaker 3: who are admitted to the hospital wounds all made it,

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Speaker 3: and you know, their families are clearly overjoyed. At that news.

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Speaker 3: Despite all the tragedy and the horror of what happened,

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Speaker 3: there can be some light in the darkness. So I

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Speaker 3: wanted to note that because we were discussing that and

632
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Speaker 3: and that was an important update that you should all know. Also,

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Speaker 3: there are stories of the bravery and the love for

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Speaker 3: one another from the students from some of these teachers.

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Speaker 3: Here is a a fifth grader who says that his

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Speaker 3: friend saved him from this shooter play Cup one.

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Speaker 9: It was like right beside me. I was like two

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Speaker 9: seats away from this gane glass windows, so they were like,

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Speaker 9: the shots were like right next to me.

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Speaker 3: I'm scary. Yeah, he went under the after that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I got like gunpowder on my neck.

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Speaker 10: Yeah. When you heard the shots, what went through your head?

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Speaker 9: I was like the first one, I was like, what

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Speaker 9: is that? I thought it was just something that I

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Speaker 9: heard it again, I just ran under the pew and

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Speaker 9: then I covered my head. My friend Victor like saved

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Speaker 9: me though, because he laid on top of me. But

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Speaker 9: he got hit. Your friend laid on top of you, yeah,

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Speaker 9: and he got hit.

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Speaker 2: Is this something that you've practiced before?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we we've practiced it like every month or I

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Speaker 9: don't know, but yeah, we've we've never practiced it in

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Speaker 9: the in the church, though.

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Speaker 3: His friend Clay covered him with his own body during

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Speaker 3: the shooting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look there, this is what I like to do

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Speaker 1: when awful things happened. I like to talk about the

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Speaker 1: people who did the right thing, and who were brave

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Speaker 1: and who were courageous, and who made the choice to

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Speaker 1: do everything that is, uh what you would hope would happen.

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Speaker 1: There's always people who run towards the sound of gunfire

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Speaker 1: and do whatever they can to protect innocent people, and

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Speaker 1: I think their stories oftentimes get lost because we focus

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Speaker 1: too much on the killer, meaning one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: I try to avoid. Sometimes people don't like it. Somebody

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Speaker 1: send an email like why don't you been named the killer?

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Speaker 1: As often because the data reflects that a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: in their sick minds are doing this to try to

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Speaker 1: be famous. That's what the Columnbne guys did. They basically

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Speaker 1: have created an entire copycat arena of school shooters who

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Speaker 1: all want to be famous. They want their names to

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Speaker 1: echo in infamy. And I would rather tell the story

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Speaker 1: as these kids' stories come out. I would rather share

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Speaker 1: stories of bravery and courage and yes, sometimes mournful loss

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Speaker 1: of the victims than give the person who is Frankly,

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Speaker 1: I think evil and certainly motivated by a desire to

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Speaker 1: have their evil acts not only create infamy for themselves,

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Speaker 1: but motivate others to engage in acts of evil. And

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Speaker 1: so I think for all people of good conscience, it's

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Speaker 1: important to shine a bright light on positivity, good courage

681
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Speaker 1: overcoming evil, as it does every single day. So within

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Speaker 1: that context, I do think it's important to examine why

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Speaker 1: this is happening. What has occurred that in Nashville, Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: my hometown, a trans person would take a gun in

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Speaker 1: and try to kill innocent kids at a school that

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Speaker 1: she attended, and at a trans man would take a

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Speaker 1: gun into the school that he attended and try to

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Speaker 1: kill Christians. And I want to play a couple of

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Speaker 1: these cuts, buck, because I think they're important. You all

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Speaker 1: out there listening to us right now are quite well

691
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Speaker 1: informed on this story. But I always think it's important

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Speaker 1: for you to think about what would you know if

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Speaker 1: you were just not listening to this show. And maybe

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Speaker 1: you're not on social media and you're not following people

695
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Speaker 1: like Mary Margaret Olahan, who we just talked with. You're

696
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Speaker 1: not following Buck, You're not following me. You are just

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Speaker 1: kind of out there in legacy media land. What would

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Speaker 1: you hear? I want to play a couple of these cuts.

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Speaker 1: This is ABC News. ABC News just had to pay

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Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars to settle a lawsuit with President Trump

701
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Speaker 1: over Joan Stepanopolis calling him a rapist inaccurately on television

702
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Speaker 1: multiple times during an interview with Nancy Mays. This is

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Speaker 1: to me, not an error. This is I want to

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Speaker 1: get this guy's name. Aaron Katterski reporting about the Minnesota shooter. Now,

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Speaker 1: remember the Minnesota shooter wrote on his gun, kill President Trump,

706
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Speaker 1: Kill President Trump. He is the furthest thing from a

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Speaker 1: Trump supporter. You could be imagine you didn't know that,

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Speaker 1: you hadn't seen that photo, You didn't have this information.

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Speaker 1: This is what ABC News viewers heard last night, and

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Speaker 1: there are millions of them in the report about this shooting.

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Speaker 11: Listen, Twenty three year old Robin Westman was able to

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Speaker 11: leave what least called a video manifesto that they're now

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Speaker 11: going through to try and establish motive. We've also been

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Speaker 11: going through it and can tell you. There are crude

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Speaker 11: diagrams of the church. There are also photos of the weapons,

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Speaker 11: and they include all sorts of writings, the names of

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Speaker 11: past mass shooters, criticism of Israel, the name of President

718
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Speaker 11: Trump written on the guns. There are also racial slurs,

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Speaker 11: nihilistic statements, all painting the picture of a disturbed individual

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Speaker 11: who carried out this mass shooting on the first week

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Speaker 11: of school at the Annunciation Church in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how do you not say if your goal is

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Speaker 1: to inform the public about the facts of a case,

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Speaker 1: how do you leave out that it was written kill

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Speaker 1: President Trump. It ad President Trump's name on the gun. Well,

726
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Speaker 1: if you're watching that, you could think, oh, that must

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Speaker 1: be a diehard Trump supporter. Oh this is one of

728
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Speaker 1: those crazy Trump supporters. He took a gun to a

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Speaker 1: cool and he shot up the place. I do think

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Speaker 1: that this is incredibly important and also, Buck, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to play this, and I know the news reports are

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Speaker 1: using the person's name. This is not us. But in

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Speaker 1: order to play this audio, I think it's important for

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Speaker 1: you to hear what they're saying. Jake Tapper on CNN,

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Speaker 1: they are continuing to be concerned about using the right

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Speaker 1: pronoun for a terrorist killer. This is what you would

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Speaker 1: have heard if you were watching CNN yesterday during their

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Speaker 1: coverage Cut five.

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Speaker 12: Minneapolis start reviewing this as another piece of the puzzle

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Speaker 12: as to who the shooter was. Minneapolis start Rebune says,

741
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Speaker 12: according to court records, because there's been some confusion about

742
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Speaker 12: what the shooter's name was, Yes, Robin Westman's mother applied

743
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Speaker 12: to change your child's name in twenty nineteen. It was

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Speaker 12: at one point Robert Paul Westman. But since she identifies

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Speaker 12: as a female and wants her name to reflect that

746
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Speaker 12: identification was underage, it's now Robin Westman.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a mass delusion. When you have

748
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Speaker 1: a killer terrorist and on live television you are worried

749
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Speaker 1: about using the correct pronoun of a trans terrorist. It's indefensible.

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Speaker 1: It's indefensible.

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Speaker 3: It's Cowardice Tapper, I'm not surprised he's always maneuvering within

752
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Speaker 3: the corporate layers at CNN, because it's not the audience

753
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Speaker 3: that he works for. It's the bosses writing the checks

754
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Speaker 3: that he tries to cater to. And with that in mind,

755
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Speaker 3: you have to remember that some of these media institutions,

756
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Speaker 3: certainly at CNN, there are people who are keeping score

757
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Speaker 3: on pronoun usage. Maybe they're doing it quietly, Clay, but

758
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Speaker 3: they tend to work in hr other places in the

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Speaker 3: building as well, and they will remember if you use

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Speaker 3: the wrong pronoun, even for a child murdering psychopath like

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Speaker 3: this guy was, they will remember that you don't bend

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Speaker 3: the knee, and they will try to exact revenge retribution

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Speaker 3: on you career wise later on. I still see people.

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Speaker 3: I just got an email a few days ago from

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Speaker 3: somebody about an unrelated matter to UH to media, but

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Speaker 3: a profession, you know, an email with somebody else going

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Speaker 3: to be work doing work for me, with pronouns in

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Speaker 3: this in the signature. Yeah, why why do you? I

769
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Speaker 3: want to ask this person. I mean, I'll be honest,

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Speaker 3: I want to ask why why do you have pronouns

771
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Speaker 3: in your in your email signature? Do you think I

772
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Speaker 3: don't know? You're clearly a woman. Why are you telling

773
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Speaker 3: me that you're a woman in your email signature? Like

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Speaker 3: I I'm I'm no longer just passive about this. It's

775
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Speaker 3: a bit like the mask thing. By the way, I

776
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Speaker 3: know you're gonna say, Buck, that's a crazy turn. It's

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Speaker 3: really not. With COVID Initially it was just just to

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Speaker 3: do it because because it'll do something and it'll make

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Speaker 3: people feel better. And then we said, ah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I guess like some places, maybe I'll put this on

781
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Speaker 3: so you don't freak out. And then it was you

782
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Speaker 3: better do it or else I'll lock you up. You

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Speaker 3: better do this, or else I'll ban you from public

784
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Speaker 3: access to bars and restaurants and everything else. You're buildings

785
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Speaker 3: where you work. That's the same thing with a pronoun thing.

786
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Speaker 3: It starts out it's, oh, it's just a courtesy, and

787
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Speaker 3: then once they get a critical mass, it's do this

788
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Speaker 3: or you lose your job. So don't ever forget. The

789
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: slippery slope is real. Slippery Slope is almost undefeated, and

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Speaker 3: the slippery slope with his trans maadness stuff is absolutely

791
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Speaker 3: real and established. And finally it has started to move

792
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Speaker 3: in the other direction where yeah, you know, I'm sick

793
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Speaker 3: of saying it too. Of course you treat trans people

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Speaker 3: with kindness. They just treat them like human beings because

795
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Speaker 3: they are human beings. But you know, Clay, if I

796
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Speaker 3: walked around telling everybody you have to call me Emperor

797
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Speaker 3: Lord of the Universe, Sexton, I'm sorry people don't have

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Speaker 3: to do that. That doesn't make them a bad person,

799
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Speaker 3: because I'm not Emperor Lord of the universe, Sexton. And

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Speaker 3: just because somebody wants to demand something from you, it

801
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Speaker 3: doesn't mean they can say, because of courtesy, you have

802
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Speaker 3: to go along with it. Never mind, as Trump says,

803
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Speaker 3: the seven foot guys were like, I want to play

804
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Speaker 3: women's basketball now.

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Speaker 2: No, No, why you don't get.

806
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Speaker 1: To Why should you get to pick your pronouns anymore

807
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Speaker 1: than you get to pick your adjectives. Let me tell

808
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Speaker 1: you something, my stunts. Some of you people call me

809
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Speaker 1: some pretty tough things on social media. Some people are

810
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Speaker 1: even maybe even a little bit mean. I don't get

811
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Speaker 1: to say, hey, sorry, my preferred adjectives are handsome, brilliant,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't get to tell you how you define mell.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 3: What if somebody Clay, What if you were sitting down

815
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Speaker 3: with an interview and so we'll take this in the

816
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Speaker 3: sports world for a second. You sat down with somebody

817
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Speaker 3: who is, you know, an NFL player, and he's like,

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Speaker 3: I would prefer that you refer to me as Heisman

819
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Speaker 3: Trophy winner, so and so yeah, and you look at

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Speaker 3: him and you go, but you didn't win a Heisman trophy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: are you being discourteous or are you just not living

822
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Speaker 3: in a delusion?

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Speaker 1: I think again, reasonable people have to stand up and

824
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Speaker 1: say we're not going to play this game anymore. And

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Speaker 1: even beyond that, how do the Democrats back out of this?

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Speaker 3: By the way, how does that? Because I think they're stuck.

827
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Speaker 3: I think this is the problem they've run into. The

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Speaker 3: They're just waiting until they have enough power again to

829
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Speaker 3: ram it all down our throats. Again, that's the game.

830
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Speaker 3: The game is not to actually retreat. I'll give you

831
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Speaker 3: my answer. I think gay people need to say we're

832
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Speaker 3: not a part of this group anymore. And I know

833
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Speaker 3: we got a lot of gay people out there listening

834
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Speaker 3: to us right now, and I know some of you

835
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Speaker 3: have felt this for some time. There is a pretty

836
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Speaker 3: big difference between saying, hey, I'm attracted to the same

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Speaker 3: sex and hey, I am a different gender than what

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Speaker 3: all of us know to be true.

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Speaker 1: I'll even say, back in the day, back in we

840
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Speaker 1: had people transvestite, right like you dressed up potentially as

841
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Speaker 1: someone you weren't. You didn't claim, you didn't claim that

842
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Speaker 1: you were actually that. And I think a lot of

843
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Speaker 1: gay people frankly are looking around and saying like, hey,

844
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm fine with the l's, the g's, the b's.

845
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Speaker 1: This hole is that this is the Dave chappelle'skat where

846
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Speaker 1: he got a lot of grief from the last I

847
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Speaker 1: think I think that to you answer your question, I

848
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Speaker 1: think that gay people have to start saying, hey, this

849
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Speaker 1: is not really our struggle. Our struggle was, Hey, we

850
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Speaker 1: want to be able to have basic human rights. We

851
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Speaker 1: want to be able to live as we believe we

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Speaker 1: should be able to live. But you don't have to

853
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Speaker 1: have surgery to try to artificially create yourself if you

854
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Speaker 1: are gay. And I think a lot of gay people

855
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Speaker 1: just need to say there's a difference here. This whole

856
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: identity politics has created, pardon the pun, a lot of

857
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Speaker 1: very strange bedfellows, right. A lot of black people out

858
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: there are actually very conservative and go to church all

859
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Speaker 1: the time, and they're looking around and they're like, this

860
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Speaker 1: trans thing is crazy. I don't think dudes should be

861
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: able to win women's championships. Why am I in the

862
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: same party as them? I think identity politics has to

863
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Speaker 1: explode and all the individuals have to make rational decisions,

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Speaker 1: regardless of your race, your gender, or your ethnicity, and

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Speaker 1: you have to be willing to speak truth. And a

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Speaker 1: man is not a woman and a woman is not

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Speaker 1: a man. And if they can get you to lie

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Speaker 1: about that, they can get you to lie about anything.

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Speaker 1: And they took advantage of kindness, particularly of women. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Women are kinder in general than men. Notice men, there

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Speaker 1: is no Dylan mulvaney. There's no man. There's no woman

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Speaker 1: who used to be a man that men are like,

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Speaker 1: this is the man of the year. We just don't

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Speaker 1: do it. Women got taken advantage of I think women

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Speaker 1: and gay people need to say this is not right.

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Speaker 3: We're done with it.

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Speaker 1: That's my answer.

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Speaker 3: So gold has been valuable for a long time. Think

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Speaker 3: about history. Think about what is the most basic unit

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Speaker 3: of money for thousands of years that people will consider that.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, gold, Gold has always been valid. If you

882
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Speaker 3: have gold coins, people will trade those for stuff because

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Speaker 3: gold is good and valuable. Now, look at the last

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Speaker 3: ten years, ten years. I just put this into an

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Speaker 3: a into AI to give me a sense of what

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Speaker 3: the numbers are. Gold has had about hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: eight percent return over the last ten years. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it. In fact, over just the last year, gold

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Speaker 3: has gone up about forty percent, So this is pretty straightforward,

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Speaker 3: my friends. The thesis here is gold is valuable. Gold

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Speaker 3: over time increases in value, and you should have some

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Speaker 3: gold as part of your portfolio. Now, I understand Trump's

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Speaker 3: doing amazing things with the economy. It's very easy to

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Speaker 3: kind of rest on Trump's laurels here and say, well,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna look at the trade deals and look at

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Speaker 3: all these things. Yeah, that's great. Trump's only got a

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Speaker 3: few years in office, and I'm trying to get you

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Speaker 3: prepared for your finances and your future for ten, fifteen,

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Speaker 3: twenty years from now, and gold as a part of

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Speaker 3: that plan just makes sense. A part of the plant,

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Speaker 3: it's not the whole planet's a part of the plant.

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Speaker 3: It's a way to balance your portfolio and to protect

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Speaker 3: some of your savings. I'm a gold holder and I

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Speaker 3: have been for over a decade. I recommend you call

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Speaker 3: my friends at the Birch Gold Group. You reach out

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Speaker 3: to them, because they are the best at getting you

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Speaker 3: real physical goal at home. They've sent it right to

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Speaker 3: my home. I've had this done so easy, and they

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Speaker 3: want to have long term gold buyers who believe in

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Speaker 3: the thesis. They want long term gold clients, and it's

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Speaker 3: so easy to get started with them. Text my name

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Speaker 3: Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. Birch Gold

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Speaker 3: will send you a free infoKit on gold. Text my

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Speaker 3: name Buck text Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight,

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Speaker 3: and Birch Gold to send you that free infokd on gold.

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Speaker 3: And just remember, they can also easily convert an existing

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Speaker 3: IRA or four oh one K into attack sheltered IRA

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Speaker 3: and physical gold. Maybe you have an old job, you

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Speaker 3: got fifteen twenty fifty thousand dollars in that IRA or

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Speaker 3: that four oh one K. Rather, they can transition that

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Speaker 3: into gold for you, and then you're just watching as

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Speaker 3: gold increases in value over time. Text my name Buck

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Speaker 3: to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight.

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Speaker 6: Today stories are freedom stories of America, inspirational stories that

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Speaker 6: you unite.

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Speaker 3: Us all each day.

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Speaker 6: Spend time with Clay and find them on the free

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Speaker 6: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Clay, have you heard of the Rio rese.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck, It does,

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Speaker 1: but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil.

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Speaker 1: The formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India,

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Speaker 1: China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.

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Speaker 1: Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens

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Speaker 1: when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging

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Speaker 3: economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.

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Speaker 2: Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.

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Speaker 2: I'm listening.

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Speaker 3: Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal

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Speaker 3: specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's

942
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Speaker 3: on the ground in Rio getting the whole low down

943
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Speaker 3: on what's going on there.

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Speaker 2: Can he give us some inside intel?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact, a

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Speaker 3: major theme at the summit is how Bricks nations aim

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Speaker 3: to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.

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Speaker 2: Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip

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Speaker 2: on the line.

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Speaker 3: Stat already did and he left the Clay and Buck

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Speaker 3: audience this message.

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Speaker 5: The world is moving on from the dollar quietly but steadily.

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Speaker 5: These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade

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Speaker 5: and the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That

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Speaker 5: shift doesn't happen overnight, but make no mistake, it's already begun.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Philip. Protect the value of your savings account,

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Speaker 3: your four oh one k r ira, all of them,

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Speaker 3: by purchasing gold and placing it into those accounts and

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Speaker 3: reducing your exposure to a declining dollar value. Text my

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Speaker 3: name Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight you

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Speaker 3: get the free information you'll need to make the right decision.

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Speaker 3: You can rely on Birch Gold Group as I do

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Speaker 3: to give you the information you need to make an

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Speaker 3: informed decision. One more time, Text my name Buck to

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Speaker 3: ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. Welcome back in everybody,

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Speaker 3: to Clay and Buck. We are joined now by Lieutenant

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Speaker 3: Governor Winsome Earl Sears, the first woman elected governor, first

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Speaker 3: black woman and female veteran to hold statewide office in Virginia.

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Speaker 3: A fantastic patriot who is doing wonderful things in the

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Speaker 3: great state Virginia, which is a place I've spent a

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Speaker 3: tremendous amount of time actually over the years, Oh Chennant Governor,

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Speaker 3: appreciate you being with us.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 13: Hello, and thank you for having me. Now, I do

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Speaker 13: have to correct you on one thing. I'm not yet

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Speaker 13: the first female governor. I'm the first female lieutenant governor.

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Speaker 13: That's a good thing too.

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Speaker 3: Oh sorry, Well, yes, but you're going to be the

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Speaker 3: first female governor, right, tell us about it?

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Speaker 13: Well, there, that is yes, And it's why because we

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Speaker 13: have the common sense ideas. What do I mean? Well,

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Speaker 13: it's a good questions that I think I just did. Well.

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Speaker 13: It's because again, we have been able to present an

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Speaker 13: economy to the people of Virginia and they love it.

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Speaker 13: They love that we've created so many jobs. You know,

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Speaker 13: two hundred and seventy six thousand people working that weren't

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Speaker 13: before we came in the office. We also have over

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Speaker 13: two hundred and fifty thousand job opening and then we've

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Speaker 13: created on top of that, fifteen thousand plus new business

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Speaker 13: artists never existed. How can you do that? Because you

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Speaker 13: get rid of barriers, you get rid of regulations, and

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Speaker 13: you become people who want Virginia to succeed. So my

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Speaker 13: opponent says, now she's running on our successes. Wait, you're

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Speaker 13: a Democratic running on the successes that we created. You're

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Speaker 13: not going to keep them. If you win, which she won't.

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Speaker 13: But if she were to win, she would dismantle and

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Speaker 13: destroy everything that we've created. So she's got the problem,

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Speaker 13: not me. We've been doing the work, Abigail, where have

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Speaker 13: you been?

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Speaker 1: We're talking to win some seers. Lieutenant governor of Virginia

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Speaker 1: who hopes and should be the next governor. I saw

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Speaker 1: some of these, some of these statements from Abigail Spanberger,

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Speaker 1: who is the Democrat nominee on men and women's sports,

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Speaker 1: and she dodged the question like she was neo and

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Speaker 1: the matrix. I mean, she is doing everything she can

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Speaker 1: do to avoid saying what is very easy for everybody,

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Speaker 1: ninety plus percent I think of actual sports, even two

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Speaker 1: thirds of Democrats. Hey, men have no business in women's sports.

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Speaker 1: Now I saw your ad. I loved it. You're nailing

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Speaker 1: her on this, But isn't it about just how out

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Speaker 1: of touch she is with Virginia that she can't speak

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Speaker 1: the truth on this.

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Speaker 13: Well, everything about her is out of touch and none

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Speaker 13: of it makes any sense. You know, here are the

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Speaker 13: parents wanting to raise their boys to respect women, to

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Speaker 13: honor women. And then we have, for examples of Auden

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Speaker 13: County school Board who have disciplined the two young men

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Speaker 13: because they are uncomfortable being forced to undress in front

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Speaker 13: of a female, and for that, they are now labeled

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Speaker 13: sexual in their school records, sexual harassers. But this is

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Speaker 13: what their parents have been raising them to be to

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Speaker 13: respect women. So you have now school boards who are

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Speaker 13: against parents, and Abigail Stanberger supports that because she voted

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Speaker 13: for men of biological men in women's sports. She voted

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Speaker 13: for biological men having to be able to undress in

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Speaker 13: locker rooms with our young girls. She voted for all

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Speaker 13: this nonsense. And that's crazy because she's got three girls.

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Speaker 13: Is that what you want for your girl children? Parents

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Speaker 13: don't want that. I wouldn't want that. She needs to

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Speaker 13: come forward and defend defend her votes. She voted that way.

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Speaker 13: Virginia doesn't want that, and that's why I'm asking Virginia

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Speaker 13: for your vote this coming November so we can continue

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Speaker 13: with common sense and not policies that tear us away

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Speaker 13: from our children.

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Speaker 1: Lieutenant Governor wins some seeris with us right now. This

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Speaker 1: story just broke on OutKick and it goes directly into

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Speaker 1: the state of Virginia. And I'm betting that Abigail Spanberger

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Speaker 1: is going to be dodging it. In addition to Roanoke

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Speaker 1: women swimmers and Louden County, as you mentioned, in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two, Virginia Tech female swimmers protested Leah Thomas, who

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Speaker 1: was a man pretending to be a woman swimming for

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Speaker 1: the University of Pennsylvania women's swim team. They reached out

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Speaker 1: to ESPN begged for ESPN to tell the story of

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Speaker 1: their protest. ESPN refused to cover it. So it's not

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Speaker 1: just Abigail Spanberger. It's also there have been a lot

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Speaker 1: of legacy media outlets that have refused to speak truth here,

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Speaker 1: and now they're trying to run cover for your opponent.

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Speaker 1: I think this is really significant. I know it matters

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Speaker 1: a great deal to our audience. But how protected is

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Speaker 1: the legacy media trying to keep your opponents so she

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to answer questions about her failures on this issue.

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Speaker 13: Oh so they started a long time ago by not

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Speaker 13: even asking any questions of me. They would just pretend

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Speaker 13: I didn't exist. I mean I would walk by them

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Speaker 13: and they would not say a word. They would have

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Speaker 13: microphones in everybody else's face, and it was as if

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Speaker 13: I didn't exist.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I have been.

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Speaker 13: The headliner, the keynote speaker at events. You know, I'm

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Speaker 13: a United States Marine Corps veteran, and I would be

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Speaker 13: at a Veterans Affairs honoring veterans events and they would

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Speaker 13: not even say that I was there, even though I

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Speaker 13: was a keynote speaker, never even said I was in

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Speaker 13: the audience, never even put my picture in, but always

1065
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Speaker 13: talked about everybody else around me. So they've been dismissing

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Speaker 13: me for some time now because they saw me coming

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Speaker 13: and they knew that she would be in trouble, Abigail Spamberg,

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Speaker 13: and they want her to win. And you know, here's

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Speaker 13: a problem with that. I grew up partly in Jamaica,

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Speaker 13: which at the time was suffering from socialist policies, and

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Speaker 13: the media put their finger on the scale for other

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Speaker 13: people who eventually ended up destroying what little economy we

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Speaker 13: had because socialism, you know, you can't ever do it

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Speaker 13: right and put Jamaica's economy in a tail spin. And

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Speaker 13: I can't believe that that's the same thing I'm seeing here.

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Speaker 13: But we're going to win because you know, you can't

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Speaker 13: hold righteousness down, and when you're on the right side

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Speaker 13: of an issue where common sense is common sense, and

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Speaker 13: where I even have now Democrats who are coming up

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Speaker 13: to me and saying, I'm a Democrat, but I'm going

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Speaker 13: to vote for you because I don't want my girl

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Speaker 13: children having to undress in front of full frontal noodle boys.

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Speaker 13: I mean, think about we're creating sexual trauma.

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Speaker 10: Sexual Do we not have.

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Speaker 13: Enough trauma in the world.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not crasious, Lieutenant Governor's heares. I want to

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Speaker 3: ask if you do become the governor, and we're obviously

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00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 3: rooting for you, pushing for you, and hopeful that this

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Speaker 3: is going to happen. Virginia is such a great state.

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Speaker 3: The northern part of your state. Some of the politics

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00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 3: they are not my favorite. I'm just saying the right

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00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: when you get in the edge of DC, you got

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00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 3: some people that well you need to reach out to

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00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: them and convince them of the error of you know,

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00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 3: Arlington's ways. But Virginia otherwise a fantastic and wonderful state.

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Speaker 3: Actually have family that's from Virginia and still lives there.

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Speaker 3: I want to know what you're going to do if

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Speaker 3: you become the governor. What will you continue on from

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00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 3: the very successful tenure of Governor young Kin and what

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Speaker 3: would be some of the things that the great residents

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Speaker 3: of the Commonwealth would be able to look forward to.

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Speaker 13: So one of the things I'm going to do, unlike

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Speaker 13: my opponent, is I'm going to continue to keep Virginia safe.

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Speaker 13: I'm going to support our law enforcement, Department of Corrections personnel.

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Speaker 13: We're not going to get rid of their qualified immunity.

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Speaker 13: We're not going to defund them. You know who will

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Speaker 13: my opponent, Abigail Spamberger, because she has said and she

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Speaker 13: has taken money from wait for it, to defund the

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Speaker 13: police pack. You can't take She's taken thousands from them.

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Speaker 13: So you know, it's not like we don't know what

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Speaker 13: she's going to do. So we need our police, right,

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00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 13: we need everybody there because I can't even talk about

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Speaker 13: safety and security. I can't talk about jobs being created,

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00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 13: taxes being low if we're not safe and secure. Right,

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Speaker 13: So that's the first thing I'm going to do. Probably

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Speaker 13: saw yesterday where she came out and said she was

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Speaker 13: one of the first things, first things that she was

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Speaker 13: going to do is precisely get rid of our safety

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Speaker 13: and security because she's going to stop all these ic

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Speaker 13: detainers where we have now found four thousand criminal illegal

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Speaker 13: aliens in Virginia, including the number three top head of

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Speaker 13: MS thirteen, and they are in various states of incarceration

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Speaker 13: and deportation.

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Speaker 10: She's going to stop that.

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Speaker 13: I mean, well, who is this woman? Where did we

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Speaker 13: get her from? Well, she can't be governor. The next

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Speaker 13: thing people want is that they want their taxes back

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Speaker 13: in their pockets. And we've restored what nine billion dollars

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Speaker 13: back into the pockets of Virginia's taxpayers. We have run

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Speaker 13: a ten billion dollar surplus for each of the for

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Speaker 13: the entire time that we've been in office. And we're

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Speaker 13: going to keep creating jobs. We're going to keep getting

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Speaker 13: rid of regulations. We're gonna have the energy that they need.

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Speaker 13: We're going to have shovel ready sits. We're going to

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Speaker 13: keep their inventories and their employees safe. Jobs will flood in,

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Speaker 13: and well you will see. We will continue our great

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Speaker 13: economic successes, whereas my opponent is going to tax them

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Speaker 13: to death. She's going to put regulations back on them,

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Speaker 13: and she's going to force every single employee, even if

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Speaker 13: they don't want to, to join a union. That for me,

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Speaker 13: is an issue of liberty, so people know what they're

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Speaker 13: gonna get with me. It's all common sense, money in

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Speaker 13: your pocket, jobs and safety. There you go. She doesn't

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Speaker 13: know how to do this. She was never there when

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Speaker 13: we were creating any of this good stuff. She was

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Speaker 13: in Congress taking stupid votes against us, and now she's

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Speaker 13: trying to backtrack, but she's not even back She's like

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Speaker 13: plucks Thetawi.

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Speaker 3: Phil.

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Speaker 13: We haven't seen her in a while. Where have you been, Abigail?

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Speaker 13: You can't lead from behind.

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Speaker 3: Lieutenant Governor Sears appreciate you very much, and please come

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Speaker 3: back and talk to us, either right before your victory

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01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 3: or right after. You can choose.

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Speaker 13: When some Forgovernor, please go to my website win some

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Speaker 13: Forgovernor dot com and help me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, hel co helper guys and gals. We need to

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Speaker 3: make sure we have a good governor in Virginia. And

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Speaker 3: things are certainly trending in the right direction there politically,

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Speaker 3: all right. Look, no matter where you live, there's always

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Speaker 3: a chance you become a victim of a robbery. Last

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Speaker 3: thing would wish on you, but the fact remains, it's

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Speaker 3: kind of stuff still happens all over the country. So

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Speaker 3: you need to be able to protect yourself and you

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Speaker 3: want to be proactive. You want to get ready before

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're rolling

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Speaker 1: through the Thursday edition of the program. A bunch of

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Speaker 1: comments rolling in. Let me read some of the emails. Tristan, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: a longtime listener, first time reaching out. I'm forty years old.

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Speaker 2: Gay mail.

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Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent that I do not identify

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Speaker 1: with this current LGBTQ alphabet community. I'm a gay man.

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Speaker 1: I don't agree at all with any of the trans issues,

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Speaker 1: except for that they should be treated like human beings.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not going to be holding onto their delusion

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent agree. Another email, just heard you on

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Speaker 1: the radio talking about how gay men and women should

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Speaker 1: push back, not just gay meen. I think Buck asked

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Speaker 1: a question. I think it's a really good question. How

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Speaker 1: do we break sort of the national fever of delusion

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Speaker 1: as it pertains to the trans related issues? And I said,

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Speaker 1: we have to break identity politics overall, so people stop

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Speaker 1: thinking about this as a group issue and just look

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Speaker 1: at it individually, whether you're gay, straight, black, white, Asian, Hispanic,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to be. But I said, the gay

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Speaker 1: community breaking away from the alphabet mafia and saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is not reflective of us. So just to be clear,

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Speaker 1: you said it perfectly. I appreciate that this isn't our fight.

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Speaker 1: Trans is not our fight. I'm a gay man. God

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Speaker 1: maybe that God does not make mistakes. Okay, Lisa in Florida,

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Speaker 1: Now this maybe tough.

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Speaker 2: Lisa.

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Speaker 1: You say your son is trans, So how old is

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Speaker 1: he now?

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Speaker 10: Forty? But when this started like seventeen?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so.

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Speaker 1: This is and obviously, look there are the vast majority

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Speaker 1: of trans kids out there are not going to turn

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Speaker 1: into school shooters, right, so we're not saying this is

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Speaker 1: directly connected. But when did your kid start to receive treatment.

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Speaker 10: A treatment for wanting to become trans?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so well the school jumped in there and started

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Speaker 10: doing the counseling right there, the college he was going to,

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Speaker 10: and it only takes they take two psychiatrists to get

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Speaker 10: it approved, and both of them have said, oh sure,

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Speaker 10: so seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, and then in the twenties, we

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Speaker 10: you know, changed first name, last name, not we, not me,

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Speaker 10: And the next thing I know, this is who I am,

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Speaker 10: and you have to call me this, which I have

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Speaker 10: to this day not and still respected. You know, the boundaries.

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Speaker 10: That's your life if that's what you want to do, okay.

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Speaker 10: But at the same time, in his curtains so radical

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Speaker 10: and I got this whole schmill too, even from him.

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Speaker 10: Would you rather have a good child or a transgiender?

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Speaker 3: The horrible blackmail line, emotional blackmail line they use against

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Speaker 3: parents all across the country. Lisa, do you feel like

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Speaker 3: do you feel like the college friends if you will

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Speaker 3: your son? Is that your belief or I mean, how

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Speaker 3: much of a role do you think they played that was.

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Speaker 10: If you could have seen the counselor that was in

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Speaker 10: there with me, you know, and she's trying to tell me, well,

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Speaker 10: she says, she says, I'm like, no, she is not,

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Speaker 10: because I've seen her go from the bedroom to the

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Speaker 10: bathroom and drop the towel, so parts are still where

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Speaker 10: they are. But at the same time, I told your screener,

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Speaker 10: who's very compassionate, I told my husband last night because

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Speaker 10: it has gotten so far out of hand and it's

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Speaker 10: so radical and his whole personality and I mean, this

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Speaker 10: is a kid that grew up in you know, Christian

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Speaker 10: church and enjoyed it and loved it. Not anymore. And

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Speaker 10: I don't know how to describe the feeling. But I

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Speaker 10: told my husband last.

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Speaker 3: Night, I said, has your son had the full Lisa

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Speaker 3: like the surgeries?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 1: What about drug treatment, the hormones all those things?

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Speaker 10: Oh my goodness, Yes, we've got boobs everything.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So how has that changed his behavior? And I

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Speaker 1: guess that's part one part two. What would you want

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Speaker 1: other parents out there who might be dealing with this

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Speaker 1: to know from your perspective.

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Speaker 10: Well, it's immediately started changing the personality. And then actually

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Speaker 10: he even admitted it and it also started changing just

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Speaker 10: help issues overall. But the other thing, don't buy into

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Speaker 10: that because it gets so far fetched and so deep

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Speaker 10: into it. I told my husband last night, I don't

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Speaker 10: know if he would Actually, you've gotten so bitter and

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Speaker 10: they feed into it and make it worse. I don't

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Speaker 10: know that he wouldn't go out and do something like this.

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Speaker 10: I can't tell you that. And it's horrible. If this

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Speaker 10: is going to sound I don't know how to say this,

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Speaker 10: and it's just going to sound horrible. But if I

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Speaker 10: thought that something would happen to my son committing suicide

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Speaker 10: and he would still go to heaven. I would be

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Speaker 10: better living with that than knowing that he went out

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Speaker 10: and killed children or anybody for that matter. I don't

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Speaker 10: even know if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: No, I love, I appreciate life.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you calling in and sharing this because I

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Speaker 1: think what it goes to is and thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: and certainly I think a lot of people are going

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Speaker 1: to pray for you. But I think what it goes to,

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Speaker 1: Buck is the emotional blackmail that this puts families through,

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Speaker 1: that is rooted in a lie. And I just I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that any of these kids are getting better, right,

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Speaker 1: That you're not getting a better son or daughter than

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Speaker 1: you already had, And it's putting families through the ringer, right.

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Speaker 3: I imagine if you sat down with somebody Clay, who

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Speaker 3: was a serious drug addict and their response to you

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Speaker 3: was either tell me the drugs are good, or I

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Speaker 3: might commit suicide. That's what's going on here. There's no

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Speaker 3: choice for these parents.