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Speaker 1: Vice.

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Speaker 2: Sure it's time.

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Speaker 1: No, Welcome to the sham, your host drop Shooter, and

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Speaker 1: it is Wednesday, which means our dear friend Donny Meecham

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Speaker 1: is joining us. Donnie, it's been a minute, Donnie. Are

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Speaker 1: you there?

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Speaker 2: Love level Levello. I know, just because you missed my

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Speaker 2: melodogy we the luck on the rab.

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Speaker 1: You sound good. You sound good, mister my friend. We

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Speaker 1: did miss you. You're the originalty. The reason this show exists,

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Speaker 1: Donny Meecham, is because you were lucky enough to meet me,

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Speaker 1: or maybe the other way around, maybe I was lucky

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Speaker 1: enough to meet you. You taught me how to do it, Donna.

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Speaker 1: You taught me talk me, talk me. Yes, that's a bit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I am the o G of Nanny but

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Speaker 2: nice radio. And it's crazy. It's been years now, I

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Speaker 2: mean the longest years of my life.

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Speaker 1: But it's been years.

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Speaker 2: But no, seriously, it's like, this is one of those

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Speaker 2: things you wanted to do it. And the thing about

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Speaker 2: me is people who want to do something, they show

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Speaker 2: an interest and they show like an actual driving, they

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Speaker 2: put in the work. I'm happy to walk them through.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to stand beside them. I'm happy to do

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Speaker 2: everything I just hate when you have people who are like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I want to do doo doo do, but can you

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Speaker 2: do it for me? No? I don't do this.

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Speaker 1: No no, Well, thank you for everything, Donnie. I don't

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Speaker 1: tell you that often enough. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's because of you that this show now really exists.

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Speaker 1: It's that simple. So thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump in. What time is it? My friends? It

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Speaker 1: else tea time? So a big shocking story at the

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Speaker 1: top of the show, the Bezos effect. You know what

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Speaker 1: that is, don Bezos effect? What could that possibly be?

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you. Weddings in Venice have dropped after

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Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez fifty million dollar spectacle. So

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Speaker 1: first we had the Clooney bump, George Clooney got married

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Speaker 1: in Venice. Now we have the Bezos bust. So in

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Speaker 1: the wake of this really over the top wedding it

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Speaker 1: took place in Venice, sources are telling me that destination

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Speaker 1: wedding bookings in the floating city have plummeted, and they

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Speaker 1: believe this is a dramatic, dramatic reversal from the post

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Speaker 1: Clooney boom. So when George got married, there a decade ago,

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Speaker 1: everybody wanted to get married in Venice. It looks so romantic,

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Speaker 1: didn't it. Oh on the gondolas, it was so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was a simpler time back then, or maybe

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Speaker 1: George is not quite as vulgar as these two. Since

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Speaker 1: these two got married there, people are like, I don't

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Speaker 1: to a couple of international wedding planners and they said,

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Speaker 1: Venice is now off the top ten list. So if

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Speaker 1: you've got a lot of money, most people don't really

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Speaker 1: have this option. You get married kind of close to

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Speaker 1: where you live, where you can afford it, where you're

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Speaker 1: friends live, so that they can come to the wedding.

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Speaker 1: Your celebrities don't think like that. Billionaires do not think

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Speaker 1: international venues. I think Tom Cruise and Kenny Holmes they

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Speaker 1: got married in a castle in Italy. We know Clooney

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Speaker 1: got married in Venice, and so Venice was always a

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Speaker 1: very romantic city. It will be forever, however, not the city,

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Speaker 1: but getting married there at the moment has a little

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Speaker 1: backlash and it reminds me of that Spaceship member when

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Speaker 1: we were so excited that Gail King and Katie Perry

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Speaker 1: really happened. That's what's happening now with this wedding Tonae.

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Speaker 1: Anybody that was into it, and a lot of people were.

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Speaker 1: The numbers are staggering on websites on the Internet. Now

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Speaker 1: people have turned on this wedding and Venice no longer

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Speaker 1: the place that rich people want to tie the nuts.

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Speaker 2: I mean we're talking about Venice in Italy, so obviously

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Speaker 2: is is, I think Bezos and Lauren made it seem unaffordable.

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Speaker 2: It made it seem unattainable. So I think people now

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Speaker 2: it's like it's restructured people's minds. But also I think

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Speaker 2: Bezos started Amazon in his garage, this is not you

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Speaker 2: know the man? Did you know? This is business not

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Speaker 2: having made the money LF made. He has the money.

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Speaker 2: It's his wedding, should he does he deserve to have

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Speaker 2: the wedding of his dreams?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, read the room a.

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Speaker 1: Little a little bit, read the room a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But this is who they are. They are shameless about this.

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Speaker 1: He has the money to back it up. Elon Musk

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Speaker 1: is very similar to me and you donoy. I'd be

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Speaker 1: hiding in my dishwasher, humiliated because we feel shame, and

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Speaker 1: maybe that's the reason we're not more successful. A lot

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Speaker 1: of really really successful people have no shame. They just

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Speaker 1: let's not post that. I get worried sometimes of posting

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Speaker 1: pictures on Instagram. If I'm having two desserts instead of one,

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Speaker 1: imagine this d is when. But it is interesting. This

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Speaker 1: is on a big, bigger picture here. What celebrities do

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Speaker 1: pay close attention to. I think that Jeff Bezos and

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Speaker 1: Lauren have become the new Kardashians. They're really controversial. They

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Speaker 1: George Clooney goes to the Polo Lounge with a moll

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Speaker 1: to go there if Jeff Bezos won't, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's sort of my my seeing anymore. There's a

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Speaker 1: But they shouldn't be surprised if not that many people

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Speaker 1: our pole question of the day. Apparently weddings in Venice

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Speaker 1: have dropped after Jeff and Lawrence fifty million dollar spectacle?

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Speaker 1: Has this turned you off Venice? Do you think of

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Speaker 1: Venice the same way now? Has it turned you off?

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Speaker 1: It's amazing, Johnny, when we watch the Olympics, I really

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Speaker 1: want to go to those countries. They look so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: The Paris Olympics made me desperate to go back to Paris.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really see any images, any photographs, any video

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Speaker 1: that I thought, Wow, Venice looks amazing. I didn't see them.

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Speaker 1: I did for Clooney. Remember Clooney was like on a

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Speaker 1: gondolier or a speed boat in his tuxedo. It looked

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Speaker 1: like mission impossible. It looked like Ocean's eleven, didn't it?

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Speaker 1: I didn't see any of those images of Venice with

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Speaker 1: the bezos ears. What do you think? Keko? Vote on

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Speaker 1: is Naughty Gossip. I'm be sure to check back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: to hear your results. Hey Johnnie flexing your muscles. I

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Speaker 1: see you fix your hair a lot. Is it to

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Speaker 2: It's just to fix the hair. Oh, it's just like

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Speaker 2: But I also I think it's just like es something

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Speaker 1: Do you like playing with your Have you had a

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Speaker 2: No? I've never shaved my head because I've seen people

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Speaker 1: Can't you go either work? Don't You could be Debi

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Speaker 1: Moore gorgeous or you could not. But it's a gamble

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Speaker 1: and then you gotta wait a while. I don't have

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Speaker 1: have to wait a while. Yes, I hear you. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Okay, so sicken with the bezos Lorence Anchez wedding. I

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Speaker 2: mean who's who of who was there? There was Kim

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Speaker 2: Chloe Kardashi, Chris Jenner, Orlando Bloom, oh, Borah Winfrey. But

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Speaker 2: Lauren was very disappointed one specific person or he me

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Speaker 2: He mean, well it was Delana but no, no, she

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Speaker 2: Oh she was disappointed, no question. Eva is one of

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Speaker 2: She could have made it work.

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Speaker 1: She could she could have. She was she was in

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Speaker 1: She's got enough money to get a flight back. She

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Speaker 1: this brings up for me, Donnie, we talk about this

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Speaker 1: quite a lot, is that it's never I'm too busy.

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Speaker 1: It's that I don't want to do it. You're not

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Speaker 1: a priority. I'm a very busy person. And somebody I

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Speaker 1: and I just was like, I can't. I'm so busy.

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Speaker 1: to do drinks? Hello, I think it's about priorities. Eva

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Speaker 2: See. The thing is that Eva is very you know,

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Speaker 2: the show was on CNN, which is a political news channel,

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Speaker 2: and it's not smart. We're not going to argue it's

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Speaker 2: leaning left. It means a little more left these days.

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Speaker 2: Eva is very in the political landscape. I think Eva

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Speaker 2: saw the optics here, Oh that she knew what he

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Speaker 1: Smart she saw a head, didn't she. Whether it's political

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Speaker 2: Oh, well, so much Bachelor in his Bachelor in Paradise

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Speaker 1: sharmom shoot if they did? From Donnie Meacham, Hey Donnie,

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Speaker 1: Courtney Kardashian. She was invited to the bezos wedding, but

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Speaker 1: to hear your results. Hey, Donna, LED's to and nicest

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Speaker 2: Giant nice of the day. Will Smith remember the movie

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Speaker 2: Wild Bow West? I loved it to this day, I said, West,

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Speaker 2: He celebrated twenty six years Wow, Wild Wild West come

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Speaker 1: He looks great.

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Speaker 2: He could be the Golden Bachelor. But I mean he's

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Speaker 1: That takes maturity, Donnie. It takes strength, and it takes

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Speaker 1: That's not weakness, that's character. Because real respect isn't earned

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Speaker 1: through perfection, it's earned through accountability. Be accountable. When you

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Speaker 1: and remember altogether. Now, let me hear you singing along.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to be naughty, you've got to be

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