Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's doctor Kelly om Z and I'm on
Speaker 1: We Talked Back Podcast. I can't wait for you to
Speaker 1: hear us talk about perimenopause and menopause. We're gonna give
Speaker 1: you some real information so that you can keep it wet,
Speaker 1: clean and fantastic through your forties and fifties.
Speaker 2: Welcome to We talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
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Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion. Who
Speaker 1: talks back. What's up, y'all? It's your girl, a j Holiday,
Speaker 1: what's up? Tam Bam? Hey y'all, it's Beet Tam Vam.
Speaker 1: I love y'all so so very much, and I'm glad
Speaker 1: y'all came back. I'm miss Jake. How was your weekend?
Speaker 2: How your weekend? Probably be in their car. They probably
Speaker 2: be in their car like AJ Gonna says, Tamgo sad age,
Speaker 2: and then tam Go say, how is your weekend? They
Speaker 2: saying it with you like and then.
Speaker 1: A Gonna say, i'd eventful, I ain't do mind that thing.
Speaker 1: I went to cost Co.
Speaker 2: I definitely went to Costco. Definitely went to TJ Max
Speaker 2: and my super bright light skinned homegirl who's been in
Speaker 2: town since. I was like, I don't know, twelve came
Speaker 2: by this weekend, so I ain't too much, just chilling
Speaker 2: and being grateful. I did go see my mom. I
Speaker 2: hung out with her a little bit on Sunday. I
Speaker 2: know she loves it when I come sit over there
Speaker 2: line your whole day be gone. But I don't know this.
Speaker 2: I worked out a little bit and that's about it.
Speaker 2: I ain't too much this weekend for real. I really
Speaker 2: just relaxed and chilled.
Speaker 1: I was just working. It's that time of year where
Speaker 1: I'm busy, you know, Thank you Jesus. So I've just
Speaker 1: been working. I had nothing eventful happened. Oh no, I lie.
Speaker 1: I went to you always.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 1: I went to a my teeth lived white as hell.
Speaker 1: I think it's that.
Speaker 2: I was just about to say that bitch, like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck, nop, he's super white.
Speaker 1: It's the I think it's the light. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but anyway, I went to this new spot in Charlotte
Speaker 1: called Astra Mediterranean something lounge, and it was like one
Speaker 1: of those it was like a halal place, but it
Speaker 1: had the hookah and it's loud. It was good. You know.
Speaker 1: They didn't have an alcohol, but I don't want none
Speaker 1: of that anyway. And I had some food and it
Speaker 1: was nice. And then I went to Crave and Dessert
Speaker 1: Bar and I got a That's one of my favorite
Speaker 1: spots in Charlotte. I still love Crave. Yes, just consistent, yeah,
Speaker 1: consistent quality. And I had like a little hookah little
Speaker 1: cocktail and uh, carrot cake cupcake. Yes, and that was it.
Speaker 2: That was We don't eat the bread pudding from there.
Speaker 2: I'm not a bread pudding girly girl. Yeah, I've never
Speaker 2: had bread putting out that I think about it.
Speaker 1: Oh, you tripping when I tell you.
Speaker 2: Me and Basilicia just go there for the bread pudding
Speaker 2: because they give you you know, it's like a little
Speaker 2: little saucer and a rampkin. That's what they call it,
Speaker 2: a little ramkin. And they have like the ramikan and
Speaker 2: they have the like the frosty sauce, you know, the
Speaker 2: white shit. What is it called iced? I used to
Speaker 2: have like icing, yeah, like a little thing on the side. Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm not a super duper uh what is this ship?
Speaker 2: Bread pudding girly, But I did grow up off a
Speaker 2: bread pudding. And they have a very very very very
Speaker 2: good bread pudding. If they still have it on the menu,
Speaker 2: you should try it next time.
Speaker 1: I'll try it. I've never had bread pudding. Always associated
Speaker 1: bread pudding and fruitcake. It's the same thing, like forge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just theirs is really good.
Speaker 1: Like so old hot food.
Speaker 2: It is old people food, because old people when like
Speaker 2: the bread is about to get old, they just turn
Speaker 2: that shit into bread, right. Our French toast, French TOAs
Speaker 2: have a little mold on it, old ass bread.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, that was it sounds fun.
Speaker 2: Let's get in the sin, y'all. So Paul Pears says
Speaker 2: the only way to really know if a girl loves
Speaker 2: you is a cheat on her and see how she reacts.
Speaker 2: So is this his podcast? I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: think so. I mean, Paul Parris is one of the
Speaker 2: biggest basketball players all time, right, and he's on this
Speaker 2: Truth after Dark podcast, and he sparked a lot of
Speaker 2: backlash by claiming that the only authentic way to determine
Speaker 2: if a woman truly loves you is the cheat on
Speaker 2: her and observe her reaction. He suggested that loyalty in
Speaker 2: the aftermath of infidelity proves devotion that is disgusting. And
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us, a lot of women,
Speaker 2: and I have really been thinking, like, you know, if
Speaker 2: you you go through some shit in and stay stated
Speaker 2: down ass woman like, he's gonna choose you type mentality.
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I ain't never been a dumb bitch in
Speaker 2: that way. I definitely have dealt with infidelity and relationships
Speaker 2: only really because it's just human nature. Like, but I
Speaker 2: don't recognize now I don't have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, does sound crazy, Like what in the hell?
Speaker 2: Don't test me because you're gonna fail every fucking time married.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's p paris married.
Speaker 1: He can't be married.
Speaker 2: The type of shit he be talking in there, talking
Speaker 2: about it, get it, get a live or seven if
Speaker 2: you are okay. The worst part is these are old
Speaker 2: farts talking like this. These are old ass fucking men
Speaker 2: like you know. And then he said the best way
Speaker 2: to see if a girl loves you. That's the problem
Speaker 2: right there, y'all fucking with girls.
Speaker 1: Girls are not grown.
Speaker 2: By a woman. Okay, because women be making niggas cry. Okay,
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna make you cry.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna break Christmas thing. I'm getting the fun up
Speaker 1: out of there.
Speaker 2: It's so toxic, really is So basically you want to
Speaker 2: hurt the person you say you love because that's what
Speaker 2: you're doing, right to see if they love you.
Speaker 1: That's weird. Yeah, you don't love her, You don't love her. Advice,
Speaker 1: don't listen to that nigga. You go find yourself alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also you're not a millionaire, okay, so don't look.
Speaker 2: Don't listen to a ball and ass baller.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: The type of should he be doing, y'all, not the
Speaker 2: same what you're going to.
Speaker 1: Lose because she loved him. She might stay because it's
Speaker 1: comfortable exactly like.
Speaker 2: Her her uh, her lifestyle is just completely different. Right,
Speaker 2: So you're trying to compare ourselves to Beyonce and jay
Speaker 2: Z relationship when we use the relationships with y'all and niggas, right,
Speaker 2: So don't be this is But the thing is is
Speaker 2: that he doesn't say anything that I don't think that
Speaker 2: men already think. Right, he's just saying the things out
Speaker 2: loud because I really I remember when I broke up
Speaker 2: with my ex most recently, like leading up to it,
Speaker 2: he was like, we ain't supposed to break up, Like
Speaker 2: he mentioned his other friends right, and how they went
Speaker 2: through all these things and she stayed like I've already
Speaker 2: went through things and stayed I don't feel like going
Speaker 2: through anything else. Nigga, you putting me out? Are you dumb?
Speaker 2: She's dumb.
Speaker 1: You've reached the quota, nigga, like you way past the.
Speaker 2: Threshold of bullshit. And my tolerance for bullshit is so
Speaker 2: fucking high because I just understand human nature, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And I'm not a fucking loser. So
Speaker 2: even in relationships, I'm gonna try my fucking best. But
Speaker 2: at what point do you think you can can discontinuously
Speaker 2: be disloyal and a relationship and the woman is supposed
Speaker 2: to keep you and stay like bitch, just get tired
Speaker 2: right here. And the thing is that I don't never
Speaker 2: think I can't do better. I can do comparable to
Speaker 2: you or greater every.
Speaker 1: Time, every single time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think women just gotta up they self esteem. Man,
Speaker 2: Get the fuck up out of there. Whether he got
Speaker 2: money or not, get your own bag.
Speaker 1: All right, that part, all right? Listen to this, Listen
Speaker 1: to this. A wanted man in Ohio sent the police
Speaker 1: a selfie after seeing his photo on the news. Because
Speaker 1: he didn't like how I look and it wasn't the
Speaker 1: most flattering picture of hearing y'all. So a man in
Speaker 1: Ohio made headlines after sending police a selfie because he
Speaker 1: didn't like the muck shots shown on the news. Identified
Speaker 1: as Donald Pugh, he was wanted for skipping a court
Speaker 1: appearance and linked to other cases like arson and vandalism.
Speaker 1: He even emailed the police saying his muck shot was
Speaker 1: terrible and offered a better photo of himself wearing sunglasses
Speaker 1: in the car. Police think for being helpful, but reminded
Speaker 1: him to rather see him in person to discuss his charges.
Speaker 1: History quickly with viral proven that crime and vanity don't
Speaker 1: mix well.
Speaker 2: But as he in jail, though, the nigga saw himself
Speaker 2: in the news. All y'all got me fucked up here, And.
Speaker 1: The photo, y'all, the photo that he seeing is much better.
Speaker 1: It's a better undil hate nas police. They know they
Speaker 1: could have picked a better picture than that, right, They
Speaker 1: trying to make me look like a hardened criminal, right.
Speaker 2: He probably he definitely probably wanted for some scamming shit, okay.
Speaker 1: To be like mentally ill to do this right or
Speaker 1: not give a fuck.
Speaker 2: You know, he's just having fun, Like I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: to jail anyway, man, Let me just might as well.
Speaker 1: Look joy my time.
Speaker 2: I'm a what two chain song fresh his head when
Speaker 2: the fans comes, head, when the fans come, That's what
Speaker 2: he was doing.
Speaker 1: This nigga. I know he from young Town, Ohio. He's
Speaker 1: got to be.
Speaker 2: I thought he was from Harlem.
Speaker 1: No oh hi, oh yeah. They're flashing people too and her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't take no fuck up picture of me, y'all.
Speaker 2: So remember last week we were talking about and I
Speaker 2: know you've probably seen it now, this black woman I
Speaker 2: think they were in.
Speaker 1: Was it Ohio? California? Might have been California. That's happened
Speaker 1: at a Golden gym, Tish Hyman.
Speaker 2: She accused this man of exposing himself essentially in the
Speaker 2: woman's locker room, and he says he's a transgender woman
Speaker 2: and he belongs in a women's locker room. The gem
Speaker 2: ultimately kicked her out, the woman Tish Hyman, and basically
Speaker 2: canceled her membership after she, you know, was yelling in
Speaker 2: the middle of the of the goals gym, like what
Speaker 2: the fuck is wroman?
Speaker 1: Y'all?
Speaker 2: It's a grown man in the bathroom. But this week, y'all,
Speaker 2: apparently this same man transgender person accused of exposing himself
Speaker 2: in women's locker room was convicted of brutally beating his
Speaker 2: ex wife.
Speaker 1: Before take get her Name?
Speaker 2: Okay, so Tiss was not wrong for calling his ass out.
Speaker 2: And first of all, when are you going to transition?
Speaker 2: When are you gonna actually transition? When are you gonna
Speaker 2: cut that dick off? Okay?
Speaker 1: Because if you still got it, you got a transition,
Speaker 1: because can you can you be called trans if you
Speaker 1: still have your uh birth parts?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like to me, I thought that
Speaker 2: trans meaning the woman or the man has transitioned, transitioned
Speaker 2: into the other sex by way of the sex change.
Speaker 2: If there hasn't been a sex change, and there hasn't
Speaker 2: been a legal name change, and this person just can
Speaker 2: pull up and female women's spaces, that's a problem because
Speaker 2: I don't think any trans man is pulling up in
Speaker 2: the men's restroom, right, So this is just men trying
Speaker 2: to DeBow women's spaces. And again from last week, a Tiss,
Speaker 2: she's a she's a lesbian woman, right, So the transider person, yeah,
Speaker 2: it happened in Los Angeles bathroom. Now being convicted of
Speaker 2: so his now ex wife while living in Ohio as
Speaker 2: a man before taking the victim's name as their own.
Speaker 1: Alex Black ran a file of.
Speaker 2: Women, ran a foul ran a file of women at
Speaker 2: a gym in Beverly Hills, including singer songwriter Tis Hymen,
Speaker 2: who accused them of exposing himself and harassing her in
Speaker 2: the locker room. You could just see him pulling up
Speaker 2: in there like he's supposed to be in there.
Speaker 1: See, this is why I don't like that. And from
Speaker 1: the pictures he didn't. And this is where I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a slippery soap, because slope because he didn't
Speaker 1: look like he was trying to identify as a woman
Speaker 1: for real to me, because he didn't. He looked like
Speaker 1: a man with earrings. Song. That was it. But then
Speaker 1: I know women who look like men with earrings? Song?
Speaker 1: So how do you no? I trying to be funny.
Speaker 1: I mean it like that, you know, Like, so how
Speaker 1: do you say, like, this person isn't trends or how
Speaker 1: you say this person isn't like how do you determine that?
Speaker 1: I don't even know.
Speaker 2: You determine it? By your genetic makeup. You were born
Speaker 2: a man, I was born a woman, okay, just because
Speaker 2: you have slick back here with errings on and a
Speaker 2: woman can also appear like that. Being a woman is
Speaker 2: not about esthetic it's science. It is genetics.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: That's why even you know, at the doctor's office, they
Speaker 2: still have like on a on your paperwork. You know,
Speaker 2: they ask you. They want to be inclusive, right, so
Speaker 2: they have all the things that in man where you,
Speaker 2: but they ultimately ask were you born male or female?
Speaker 2: That's we're not talking about what somebody look like. Yes,
Speaker 2: there are definitely women that look like men, but genetically
Speaker 2: there's still a woman and they belong in female spaces, right.
Speaker 2: Women are not out here trying to vie. I feel
Speaker 2: like that man just wants to see women naked and
Speaker 2: he's doing it under the guise of being transgendered.
Speaker 1: Especially with the history of domestic violence against women and
Speaker 1: the instilling identity mm hmmm. A lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of those people, they're.
Speaker 2: Like mean, they are mean, and you know, like that
Speaker 2: is a telltale sign that your man might be okay
Speaker 2: on the down low. If he's mean to you, if
Speaker 2: he's putting his hands on you. If he's being belligerent
Speaker 2: and abusive towards you, they don't like you. They don't
Speaker 2: like you, and oftentimes they might be battling their sexuality
Speaker 2: and taking it out on you. How dare you get
Speaker 2: to be a real woman? And you know, and they
Speaker 2: are the main ones that are so upset and at
Speaker 2: arms about men who can live freely, gay men, transgendered,
Speaker 2: transen transgendered women who are out right don't give a
Speaker 2: fuck with no nobody thinks about it. It's the d
Speaker 2: L men that are dangerous. Those are the dangerous ones. Okay,
Speaker 2: angry hold, let me add this on it, y'all. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I've seen this postal Instagram. This girl she was like, uh,
Speaker 2: somebody said that if your man farn a lot, he
Speaker 2: might be del and I had to think. I had
Speaker 2: to think back, Okay, big girl, bye, No, because the
Speaker 2: bitches in the comments, listen, what's up with your what's
Speaker 2: up with your gut?
Speaker 1: My guy?
Speaker 2: What is up with your uh your uh gastro system? Like,
Speaker 2: what's going on? Why is your booty clapping so fucking much?
Speaker 2: I'm girl all on One bitch commented and said she
Speaker 2: was arguing with her ex husband and he had farnted
Speaker 2: and she said, why the fuck your fart smell like lube?
Speaker 2: I commented, that's mad. Damn, I'm so mad that I'll
Speaker 2: fuck with niggas that I gotta violate like this anymore,
Speaker 2: because I would definitely have that in the arsenal. Your
Speaker 2: hearts smell like.
Speaker 1: Lube, that is ridiculous, That is asinine, I bet, while
Speaker 1: your fart smell like loube is crazy. Y'all. We have
Speaker 1: a guest on today, doctor Kelly. She is talking Perry
Speaker 1: menopause and menopause with us. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: You are crazy, all right, y'all. So today we're turning
Speaker 2: up the heat, okay literally because we're talking Perry menopause.
Speaker 1: This is what tam, we want to talk about.
Speaker 2: And listen, we are not going through this phase yet, okay,
Speaker 2: we just want to see what Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm not very sure. That's why I have questions, you know, because.
Speaker 2: Right because exactly so it's like that in between stage
Speaker 2: and your body like we ain't done yet but definitely changing. Okay.
Speaker 2: So today we have the incredible doctor Kelly Elmore. When
Speaker 2: we talked back, she's a board certified OBG Y n
Speaker 2: retired Navy captain. Okay see, she's the boss, cap you
Speaker 2: get her and say okay right, and founder of Koe
Speaker 2: Medical Consulting. She's dedicated to helping women lead, live, thrive
Speaker 2: through every stage of life, including this one that me
Speaker 2: and Tammy are not going through. Yeah, y'all, aren't we all?
Speaker 1: Aren't we all? Aren't y'all? Thank you for joining us, Darna, Kelly,
Speaker 1: I really really appreciate you coming on talking to us
Speaker 1: and our listeners. Absolutely, I'm I'm here for it. This
Speaker 1: is what I love. I tell people I love what
Speaker 1: I do, who I do it for, and who I
Speaker 1: do it with. So that's my job. So tell us
Speaker 1: how you got into because, like are y'all before the
Speaker 1: show started, she says she was darting to Kelly since
Speaker 1: she was six years old. So tell us about how
Speaker 1: you got into becoming a doctor. Like your background. Well,
Speaker 1: I tell people all the time I was called to
Speaker 1: the pool pit of medicine. First, I want to say
Speaker 1: thank you both for having me on your wonderful show.
Speaker 1: I was gone to the pool pit of medicine very early.
Speaker 1: I didn't have doctors in my immediate family. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I was the first one to go
Speaker 1: and complete college, so you know, everything after that, I
Speaker 1: was the first for that as well. But when I
Speaker 1: was a little girl, I you know, something told me
Speaker 1: in my spirit that I wanted to be a physician.
Speaker 1: And then one day I was watching KPBS. I think
Speaker 1: I might have been nine or ten years old, and
Speaker 1: they were showing the first laparoscopic hiss directed me. My
Speaker 1: mom walked through the door, like, what are you watching?
Speaker 1: Because if you can imagine a woman is like in
Speaker 1: a certain position having the surgery.
Speaker 2: Knew well.
Speaker 1: She was like, what are you watching? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: a laparostopic hiss directed me and she was like, did
Speaker 1: you what is that? And I said, well, that's what
Speaker 1: I want to do. And I used to watch this
Speaker 1: show called Heartbeat, which was all about obgyns, and I
Speaker 1: was like, and that's what I want to do too. Wow.
Speaker 1: So I decided that I wanted to, you know, be
Speaker 1: the safe place for women, especially because I have a
Speaker 1: history of domestic violence in my family, that I wanted
Speaker 1: to be that safe place for women to express what's
Speaker 1: going on not just with their bodies, but also spiritually, physically, financially, mental,
Speaker 1: them emotionally, so when you come to me, we having
Speaker 1: a full conversation. Right, Well, it's not like you a
Speaker 1: servant of the Lord, because goodness, all right, I have
Speaker 1: a question, all right, what's one myth about menopause you
Speaker 1: wish women would stop believing one myth about menopause? Well,
Speaker 1: this is an interesting question because right now they're actually
Speaker 1: changing the FDA black box warning on hormone replacement therapy.
Speaker 1: So a lot of people thought that they could not
Speaker 1: utilize hormone replacement for the last twenty years due to
Speaker 1: an article that came out or a study that came
Speaker 1: out that told them, you know, it's going to kill them.
Speaker 1: They're going to get more breast cancer, cardiovascular disease, all
Speaker 1: that other stuff. So the myth is that more women
Speaker 1: wo men are able to utilize supplements and or hormone
Speaker 1: replacement therapy medications in order to help them navigate perimenopause
Speaker 1: and menopause. So are for someone who like me, who's
Speaker 1: like so far away from all of this perimenopause, can
Speaker 1: you explain to me and our listeners what exactly is
Speaker 1: menopause and perimenopause? Like, what is it? Because when I
Speaker 1: love to start where so it's a change, right, and
Speaker 1: I will tell you that if you live past the
Speaker 1: A up to the age of sixty, you are going
Speaker 1: to go through the change. Just like when you were born,
Speaker 1: you went through adolescence, puberty, you're going through the change.
Speaker 1: So perimenopause menopause is the change of our hormones. And
Speaker 1: I like to start with menopause because it's just like
Speaker 1: more of a definitive space before I get the definition
Speaker 1: of perimenopause. So menopause is when our hormone levels estrogen
Speaker 1: progesterone dropped to such significant lows that we no longer
Speaker 1: have a periods, so we're not menstruating for twelve months. However,
Speaker 1: there's more than fifty different symptoms that are associated with
Speaker 1: having the drop in your estrogen progesterone and your tsosterone.
Speaker 1: So menopause officially is twelve months without your period or cycle,
Speaker 1: and then after that is what people call postmenopause. But
Speaker 1: I also like to say one myth to people, menopause
Speaker 1: lasts for your the rest of your life. That's the
Speaker 1: that is the area you are in in your life
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. Once you stop having
Speaker 1: your periods, you're in menopause. See I used to think
Speaker 1: is like when you stop liking men men, know, pause
Speaker 1: pause on these men because of you know, so.
Speaker 2: That's what you say that teenage years.
Speaker 1: So that's funny you say that because you know one
Speaker 1: of the symptoms of the many symptoms is you can
Speaker 1: have decreased libido, decreased desire. And I remember a few
Speaker 1: of my friends to be like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening. When they hit their forties, like forties,
Speaker 1: was like, yes, baby, yes, they wanted to have sex,
Speaker 1: the whole thing, right when you hit four and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all of that energy just like
Speaker 1: he continues to wax and wane. And that's where we
Speaker 1: call the perimenopause. So prior to you going through menopause,
Speaker 1: which means you're not having periods anymore, the perimenopause is
Speaker 1: that time before, and that time before can be anywhere
Speaker 1: from five to ten years prior to your actual menopause.
Speaker 1: Most people go through like the stage change that one
Speaker 1: year between the ages of forty eight and fifty two, right,
Speaker 1: but that time before that, that is that perimenopausal time.
Speaker 1: And you know, a lot of people think about fertility right,
Speaker 1: So their reproductive time, so that perimenopause you can still
Speaker 1: get pregnant. Your hormones are just like doing this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so your hormones are doing this. And it's just like
Speaker 1: I tell people, the way we start is the way
Speaker 1: we end. So if you had puberty, if you remember puberty,
Speaker 1: that's what mental pause is like as well. So that's
Speaker 1: why I've never had a ZiT in my fucking life.
Speaker 1: Excuse my French, but all of a sudden I got
Speaker 1: zits on my jawline. Is that a symptom of perry? Perhaps? Yep?
Speaker 1: Face So estrogen? So estrogen, the decrease in estrogen, progesterone, testosterone. Right,
Speaker 1: Remember I told you there's fifty different symptoms or more
Speaker 1: that people can have. Now, Estrogen is in the in
Speaker 1: every part of our body, our skin, our hair, are
Speaker 1: you know, our our brains, our heart, everywhere is estrogen. Okay,
Speaker 1: So when you're starting to see things start happening. And
Speaker 1: then also depending on what you're doing for your nutrition,
Speaker 1: and I recommend people to eat what we call the
Speaker 1: Viva life five fruits, vegetables, nuts, rains, beans, drinking our
Speaker 1: water and if you eat meat that make sure it's
Speaker 1: you know, high quality, as clean as possible. But if
Speaker 1: you're if you are eating outside of those things, you're
Speaker 1: going to see your body respond even more to having
Speaker 1: this decrease in estrogen. So that is what is going around.
Speaker 1: Your hormone levels are dropping and you are starting to
Speaker 1: see the our bodies respond, our tissues respond, our organs
Speaker 1: respond to that. Should we be taken like estrogen? Sorry,
Speaker 1: So it is that is a very personal conversation. So
Speaker 1: every single person should have that conversation with their provider
Speaker 1: because we have to think about what's your family history,
Speaker 1: what's your personal history, and there are certain things that
Speaker 1: if you are active, like if you have active breast cancer, no,
Speaker 1: we're not going to give you hormone replacement, right, we
Speaker 1: may and sometimes we can do something local to the vagina,
Speaker 1: but that's one of those things we have to have
Speaker 1: that conversation about. If you have excessive i mean, excuse me,
Speaker 1: uncontrolled hypertension, we have to have a conversation about that
Speaker 1: because the cardiovascular risk could increase depending on what your
Speaker 1: cardiovascular risks are. So it's not that it's a complete no,
Speaker 1: but we have to have a conversation with you about
Speaker 1: your personal history. In order to recommend. Now, hold on,
Speaker 1: you said you could do something to the vagina, what
Speaker 1: is it? Tighten it, make it more wet, like what
Speaker 1: is it for? Shop for shop?
Speaker 2: So, as you know, your vagina is very like responsive
Speaker 2: to estrogen, So the estrogen, collagen, the juiciness, all of that, right,
Speaker 2: we need to make sure that we are able to
Speaker 2: keep that, like you said, moisten wet, if.
Speaker 1: That's what you so choose and how you so choose
Speaker 1: to use it. One thing I tell people, and this
Speaker 1: is a I don't know if it's a mythory, Well
Speaker 1: it's a truth on my basis. If you don't use it,
Speaker 1: you will lose it, Okay.
Speaker 2: So the point of the matter is get worried about that.
Speaker 1: I'll go through like spirits. Well I don't.
Speaker 2: But and so what I say is if I use it,
Speaker 2: I don't like you.
Speaker 1: We gotta make sure it's clean, healthy, and as wet
Speaker 1: as you want it to be. Right. So that being said,
Speaker 1: if you need to utilize a vaginal like moisturizer, you
Speaker 1: can use that, right, So we have a placements for that.
Speaker 1: We also can use vaginal estrogen locally so that you
Speaker 1: can continue to keep that area like I said healthy
Speaker 1: and moist because besides getting the itchy, scratchy vagina, as
Speaker 1: long as you don't have any inflammation or infection associated
Speaker 1: with it, you can also have what we call urinary
Speaker 1: tract effect what seems like to be urinary tract infections,
Speaker 1: and what we call that is the genital urinary syndrome
Speaker 1: or symptoms of menopause perimenopause. And that's because those estrogen
Speaker 1: levels are so low and it's dry, and now you're
Speaker 1: getting all of these symptoms associated that seem like urinary
Speaker 1: attract infections but may or may not be.
Speaker 2: You have all these things for like men libido, right,
Speaker 2: So we have creams right like you're saying, but do
Speaker 2: we have a viagraa type pill for women's libidos? Like
Speaker 2: everything is catered to men prolonging their I don't know,
Speaker 2: sexual sex.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so actually there are medications for women that help
Speaker 1: them improve their libido, their sex drive also, like I said,
Speaker 1: improve improve their vaginal moisture, the elasticity of your entire
Speaker 1: body as far as your skin and everything like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're coming, they're on the market. They're not
Speaker 1: talked about as much, but they are you know more
Speaker 1: and more are coming out and especially, like I said,
Speaker 1: we have this at you at the health and Human
Speaker 1: services level. Now, we have some really powerful obgu I
Speaker 1: N eurogynecology advocates that are there in Congress and making
Speaker 1: sure these things are moving forward. So we have you know,
Speaker 1: we have we have different opportunities for different people, so
Speaker 1: you know it's not just a one stop shot hormone
Speaker 1: replacementary therapy. When we talk about estrogen replacement, that is
Speaker 1: definitely the the therapy that is going to help you
Speaker 1: with your hot flashes. That's like the gold standard to
Speaker 1: help prevent the hot flashes, which is what most people
Speaker 1: hear about. But then there are other opportunities for us
Speaker 1: as well if you don't want to use estrogen based
Speaker 1: or progesterone based products.
Speaker 2: Is this true or false? Like does having a direct
Speaker 2: me cause perimenopause or menopause Earlierly? Like that stage to
Speaker 2: happen early, Because when you talk about knowing your family
Speaker 2: history and stuff like that, I don't know a woman
Speaker 2: in my family who's not over you know, fifty who
Speaker 2: have not already had a hysterectomy from my mom, aunt's
Speaker 2: older cousins. So I can't pinpoint what's what Like, I
Speaker 2: am always happy when I see my period, right right,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love seeing my period because I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm still I'm still youthful. I can still get pregnant,
Speaker 2: pop that couch. I can do all things, okay, But
Speaker 2: how do you know when everybody like, I don't know
Speaker 2: when my mom would have went through menopause, especially now
Speaker 2: you're saying like when menopause starts, it doesn't stop, like
Speaker 2: that's just the rest of your life is menopause. Right now,
Speaker 2: I don't know the difference between PMS and or menopause
Speaker 2: with these old ladies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand, I understand. It's me. Yeah, so ask
Speaker 1: your question again because I got in, you know, with
Speaker 1: the PAPTA. I got throw off with the pop. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, pop couci because listen, it's women in menopause
Speaker 1: still popping their koucie. Don't get yes, absolutely, which is
Speaker 1: why I need to mention this that we still need
Speaker 1: to even though people are like, oh, I can't get
Speaker 1: pregnant because I've gone through menopause, my eggs and run out.
Speaker 1: The likelihood of me getting pregnant is very, very low.
Speaker 1: But I never put anything past the higher power. We
Speaker 1: still need to prevent STDs. So gotneria chamitia herpe' heppatitus HIV.
Speaker 1: So because people are living longer, stronger, and thriving past
Speaker 1: their fifties, we still need to reprevent all of that.
Speaker 2: But go back to your menopause quicker right, oh with
Speaker 2: instaur Yes, that's what.
Speaker 1: So. So it's interesting because hysterectomy means removal of the uterus.
Speaker 1: But if you ask the woman if I you've had
Speaker 1: a hysterectomy, many of them don't know whether or not
Speaker 1: they got their ovaries and rears remove, right, so it's
Speaker 1: not even a partial hys direct me. The removal of
Speaker 1: an ovaries is called a oopharectomy, that's what it's called.
Speaker 1: The removal of the tubes is called a salping jectomy.
Speaker 1: The removal of the uterus is called a hysterectomy. So, yes,
Speaker 1: you have to very much get into the nuance with
Speaker 1: people about that. Now, sometimes when you remove the uterus,
Speaker 1: some of the blood flow that would be going to
Speaker 1: the ovaries decreases, so people can see the changes. Like
Speaker 1: I said, you can have some minstrul excuse me, you
Speaker 1: can have some perimenopause symptoms that seem to come on
Speaker 1: maybe not faster, but because you have decreased blood flow,
Speaker 1: you're getting those types those same type of symptoms. It's
Speaker 1: more when that estrogen level is gone. So if you
Speaker 1: have your ovaries removed, then yes, no longer are you. Yes,
Speaker 1: you are in medical or surgical menopause right then and there.
Speaker 1: So you can have surgical menopause, meaning that I took
Speaker 1: out your ovaries or decreased the significant flow to your ovaries.
Speaker 1: You can have medical menopause, which means I gave you
Speaker 1: medication to stop the function of your ovaries. Or you
Speaker 1: can have what a quote unquote natural menopause, where you've
Speaker 1: just matured and aged into menopause. And that is a
Speaker 1: questions because so many people are like, welly have my
Speaker 1: uterers taken out? I don't know if I'm gone through menopause.
Speaker 1: If you listen to your body, you will absolutely know
Speaker 1: when you stop cycling. But we have to be in
Speaker 1: tune with our bodies. And that's why I teach a
Speaker 1: lot about mindset and knowing yourself from the inside out.
Speaker 1: I had a friend she was fighting breast cancer, and
Speaker 1: she said that she was going into early menopause because
Speaker 1: of the medicine is that this happened from chemotherapy will
Speaker 1: send you into early menopause. So that's what we call
Speaker 1: medical menopause. So yes, you can you can actually end
Speaker 1: up starting to have the symptoms. You can fully go
Speaker 1: into menopause, or you can go into a state of
Speaker 1: you know, stopping where those medications are stopping the hormones
Speaker 1: from functioning that they normally do. And that's the whole purpose,
Speaker 1: especially when you have an estrogen or progesterone positive breast cancer.
Speaker 1: So you can either be paused or you can actually
Speaker 1: fully go into the menopause. And everybody is a little
Speaker 1: bit different how they respond to those therapies and medications.
Speaker 2: And don't they they're like medication that can I was
Speaker 2: gonna say, don't they have like a medication that can
Speaker 2: like basically if you're going through chemo, that can like
Speaker 2: guard your eggs correct.
Speaker 1: So they do put you on medications that can help,
Speaker 1: like I said, make that pause happen so that it
Speaker 1: can help protect right, But we don't know until you
Speaker 1: come off with all the medications whether or not what
Speaker 1: functionality you're gonna have. And that's typically not something that
Speaker 1: they're just gonna do for you. You gotta pay for that,
Speaker 1: right like, because well, no, that that a lot of
Speaker 1: times is a part of your therapy, and they should
Speaker 1: be having the conversation with women in regards to how
Speaker 1: do I protect my ovaries, how do I continue to
Speaker 1: maintain my fertility? And also and then I'm thinking you're
Speaker 1: talking about potentially egg harvesting, so when I harvest my
Speaker 1: eggs so that I can save them so that I
Speaker 1: can use them for later, either in my uterus or
Speaker 1: womb or somebody else's. And that brings me to my
Speaker 1: next question. Does stress play a part in how quickly
Speaker 1: your body goes into the change? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think that especially for Black women, we are
Speaker 2: known to go through menopause perimenopause about eight months to
Speaker 2: a year earlier than women women are kind of part right,
Speaker 2: non women of color, I guess you could say Caucasian women,
Speaker 2: whatever you want.
Speaker 1: To say, bege. So, yeah, and I do believe that
Speaker 1: that is associated with the amount of stress and weight
Speaker 1: that we carry from racism, structural racism, discrimination, prejudice, and
Speaker 1: then just having the weight of the world on our shoulders,
Speaker 1: you know, the financial responsibilities, the mental and emotional responsibilities
Speaker 1: that we carry more than most people do. Stop stressing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna get old fast, and that's another reason why.
Speaker 1: You know though, that's the only thing, right, get older faster.
Speaker 1: But you will look it, I know, right, And a
Speaker 1: lot of people are like, oh, I don't look my age,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's true. Many times we don't look our
Speaker 1: age because I think that genetically, genetically, we have developed
Speaker 1: protective mechanism so that we don't age in the same
Speaker 1: way that other people age. But I will tell you
Speaker 1: if you are smoking, and if you are you know, significantly,
Speaker 1: if you're OBEs, significantly overweight, if you are not managing
Speaker 1: your cardiovascular health diabetes, it doesn't matter. You know, if
Speaker 1: you're not doing those things, you're gonna look older than
Speaker 1: you should. Amen to that. That's what I was going
Speaker 1: to ask, like, when you how does fitness like, how
Speaker 1: should we change our fitness when we're going to pair
Speaker 1: mini pause, because I assume our metabolisms and things like
Speaker 1: that are affected by this as well. So you're absolutely
Speaker 1: so it's slow. Your menabolisms are slowing down. And so
Speaker 1: what I tell people is encourage young people already to
Speaker 1: exercise whatever that is if it's dancing, dancing, zooma and
Speaker 1: whatever it is, pilates, running, hiking, biking, getting out there
Speaker 1: and walking. Make sure you're doing that so young, if
Speaker 1: you're young, put your kids in some type of sports
Speaker 1: and make them do it. As you mature, continue doing that.
Speaker 1: Find your community so that you can enjoy exercise. We
Speaker 1: should be enjoying. We should be exercising five or six
Speaker 1: times a week, if not seven, right, even if the
Speaker 1: seventh day is going for a walk, but we should
Speaker 1: be exercise and enjoying that. So and then as you are,
Speaker 1: as you are aging, right, you should be increasing your
Speaker 1: strength exercises. So that is why you know, even doing
Speaker 1: resistance bans is so important. So adding weights you don't
Speaker 1: have to add, you know, significantly heavy weights. You don't
Speaker 1: have to lift one hundred, two hundred pounds. You don't
Speaker 1: have to do that. You can lift twenty thirty pounds.
Speaker 1: You can lift your own body weight. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know you weigh one hundred and twenty one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty pounds or more.
Speaker 2: N I never been able to lift my body weight
Speaker 2: since I was an elementary. I can't never do a
Speaker 2: pull up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so be on there. But you know, we start
Speaker 1: with we start with doing pushups. So in the morning,
Speaker 1: when I wake up, I do my body scan and
Speaker 1: this is part of my Vivi Life program that I do.
Speaker 1: But I wake up, I do my body scan and
Speaker 1: I ask myself, you know, what's going on in my
Speaker 1: body from the top of my head down to the
Speaker 1: sole of my feet, and how do I focus my
Speaker 1: energy so I can heal that space. Then I get
Speaker 1: down on the floor, I do my Calisenics and that's
Speaker 1: push ups, that's crunches, that stretches, and I know it
Speaker 1: sounds funny, right, So I don't know. My mom watched jacqu.
Speaker 2: Lolaine, and you know I did a tibo when I
Speaker 2: was in my twenties and thirties. Whatever you need to
Speaker 2: do to keep moving and to keep that body, you know, strong,
Speaker 2: those are the things that we need to do.
Speaker 1: I remember one time I went to this female doctor
Speaker 1: and I was putting on weight and I was like,
Speaker 1: but I just don't have time. My life is so busy.
Speaker 1: I just travel and I work in two different cities
Speaker 1: and I just don't have time. And she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm a mother of five, I'm a wife, I have
Speaker 1: this practice and I still find time every morning to
Speaker 1: get up and go to the gym. So what were
Speaker 1: you saying? And then it becomes my hair and all
Speaker 1: that other stuff. No, I schedule it. So one of
Speaker 1: the things my family knows is the first hour of
Speaker 1: the day is mine. That's where I meditate, journal and
Speaker 1: get my exercise in, and then for the rest of
Speaker 1: the day, I'm optimizing my nutrition, my hormones in my
Speaker 1: sleep and I get my sleep. And so you're talking
Speaker 1: to an obgyn who used to, you know, do thirty
Speaker 1: six hourships and still got her work out in because
Speaker 1: it just makes you feel better mentally and emotionally, and
Speaker 1: of course it's going to help the physical aspects your
Speaker 1: heart health, prevent diabetes, prevent significant weight gain, all of that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The crazy thing is I have a consultation today at
Speaker 2: a weightlifting gym. All right, Yeah, because I go to
Speaker 2: the gym, but I don't be knowing what I'm doing
Speaker 2: half the time, right, And I want to like, I
Speaker 2: just don't want shit to.
Speaker 1: Move no more.
Speaker 2: I want the body to stay kind of like the
Speaker 2: same size, but I don't want no more jiggle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand, and that can happen. And so you're
Speaker 1: being intentional about what you do and how you do it.
Speaker 1: Because you don't have to be in the gym for
Speaker 1: twenty two hours. You don't have to do that.
Speaker 2: It's a discipline inconsistency for me, man, I just got
Speaker 2: to get some discipline in my life.
Speaker 1: Yep, listen, I will. I did seventy five hard earlier
Speaker 1: this year, and I was going to the gym twice
Speaker 1: a day for seventy five days straight. And then right
Speaker 1: after that, I did seventy five fat like right behind it,
Speaker 1: run again seventy five You better cut it out. I
Speaker 1: struggle with the consistencies, like just staying with it. That's
Speaker 1: my hardest part. I can do. I do the workouts,
Speaker 1: I know the workouts, I know the routines, I know
Speaker 1: how to live ways, but just going for life a
Speaker 1: lifestyle change is what I struggle with. That is that
Speaker 1: my kryptonite. So I don't I tell me understand. And
Speaker 1: that's one thing that we have just incorporated in my life,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I said, it's on my calendar, and
Speaker 1: don't mess with me. And even if I can't get
Speaker 1: like a hard workout in, I'm going to do something,
Speaker 1: even you know, walking something to get my mind going
Speaker 1: like right now, I don't feel like going to the gym,
Speaker 1: but I'm out there every morning and I'm walking two
Speaker 1: and a half miles and I'm going uphills and I'm
Speaker 1: using the resistance bands, doing the push ups in the setups.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, m all, I'm gonna go in a little while,
Speaker 1: I think today.
Speaker 2: And you gotta be in a community, right, So if
Speaker 2: you're in a community of people that this is what
Speaker 2: they do.
Speaker 1: So that's what my Viva lifeers and I do. Like
Speaker 1: we encourage each other to do all of these things.
Speaker 1: And it's not really like me saying you need to go,
Speaker 1: it's them seeing me go. Like I'm out there and
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, what y'all doing? You know? And the
Speaker 1: next thing I know, everybody else is out doing something too. Right,
Speaker 1: that's you don't encourage me to get my ass up
Speaker 1: to They an't go because I wasn't gonna go because
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go just because you said that. And
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, I never like, I never
Speaker 1: heard of Peri menopause. I heard of menopause growing up,
Speaker 1: but Perry menopause was never a thing.
Speaker 2: Is that the I just started hearing about it the
Speaker 2: last Is it a new convent?
Speaker 1: No, not at all. I mean, you know, I will
Speaker 1: tell you when I first started hearing about it was
Speaker 1: about twenty years ago when Oprah was on with doctor
Speaker 1: Hill I think her name was hilde Brand or Hilda
Speaker 1: greath but she they talked about What Women Need to
Speaker 1: Know about Sex was the book, and so it was
Speaker 1: a whole I mean, Oprah did a whole thing on menopause,
Speaker 1: just like she's doing now in perimenopause. But I will
Speaker 1: tell you when I even when I was going through training.
Speaker 1: You know, you grow up and they tell you're going
Speaker 1: to have your period and they tell you don't get pregnant, right,
Speaker 1: but they don't tell you anything between that or about that.
Speaker 1: When I was going through my OBGUI N training, we
Speaker 1: got the graphs that said this is what happens with estrogen, progesterone, testosterone.
Speaker 1: I will be honest with you, it's not until you
Speaker 1: hit the different stages that you're like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: what they were talking about. So the reason why you
Speaker 1: feel like it hasn't been talked about is number one,
Speaker 1: they stopped talking about it, especially after that whole Women's
Speaker 1: Health Initiative, because they didn't want people to be on
Speaker 1: horrimal replacement. Right. The other thing is it's coming up.
Speaker 1: You're going into the time of your life where other
Speaker 1: people are going into the time of their life where
Speaker 1: they're starting to feel these things, so you're more interested
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 2: Like, we don't talk about how to get pregnant until
Speaker 2: you're trying to get pregnant, right, So same thing, You're
Speaker 2: not going to.
Speaker 1: Talk about perimenopause until you're going through the experience.
Speaker 2: So like, what are some of the symptoms that women
Speaker 2: made mistake for something else but it's perimenopause.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so these are important things. So I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: with the heart, right. So a lot of people actually
Speaker 1: end up getting heart palpitations, anxiety, and sometimes some shortness
Speaker 1: of breast, chest pain. But we also have to make
Speaker 1: sure that we're ruling out what could kill you, right,
Speaker 1: So we got to make sure that it's not a
Speaker 1: heart attack. We got to make sure that is not
Speaker 1: some other kind of arrhythm or changes in your heart rate.
Speaker 1: But those are some of the things a lot of
Speaker 1: people get palpitations anxiety associated with perimenopause menopause. The other
Speaker 1: thing is people will notice that their weight changes, So
Speaker 1: they start getting what we call the mino belly or
Speaker 1: that mid that midriff weight game, that the what do
Speaker 1: they call it, the upha, the punfa, whatever it's called.
Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, so the muffin tops. So you
Speaker 1: start getting that and people are like, wait a second,
Speaker 1: what's going on with that? And so we have to
Speaker 1: make sure are you having a gastrulinetestinal problem that's going
Speaker 1: along with that? Is this friboids that's potentially going on?
Speaker 1: So going back to the head to toe exam is
Speaker 1: very important. And what I've noticed in mere cards, we've
Speaker 1: gotten away from examining people so that we can make
Speaker 1: a differential diagnosis means what could this be and what
Speaker 1: more likely is this? People also start having joint pains
Speaker 1: and so they're like, uncle Arthur is here right, So
Speaker 1: they think they have our ritis, but it's actually inflammation
Speaker 1: because the estrogen actually moisturizes our joints, helps moisturize that.
Speaker 1: So you know, those are some of the symptoms besides
Speaker 1: the hot slashes, vaginal dryness, mood swings. Mood swings are huge.
Speaker 1: But we have to figure out is this depression, you know,
Speaker 1: is it truly depression? Do you have a bipolar exacerbation
Speaker 1: exacerbation or is this associated with perimenopause or menopause? So
Speaker 1: those are so so okay.
Speaker 2: So people going through perimenopause get like bipolar symptoms in hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if you if you ask, like my
Speaker 1: best friend call and she was like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on with my my mom, and a lot
Speaker 1: of men I'll tell you this too. A lot of
Speaker 1: men will tell you this too. They're like, man, I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on over but she seemed like
Speaker 1: and then the other thing is as new as you mature,
Speaker 1: you can also you know ad ad D. People can
Speaker 1: get the you know, uh focused deficits. And you hear
Speaker 1: me saying, because you get brain fog and you can't
Speaker 1: figure out what word you're supposed to say. So then
Speaker 1: some people are thinking they're going through Alzheimu's or yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'd be feeling like that sometimes.
Speaker 2: But like I said, but when we before we started recording,
Speaker 2: like I had, I mentioned this last week too, I
Speaker 2: had a physical done and I'm like super iron deficient.
Speaker 2: But that can also cause like the brain fog. That's hardness.
Speaker 2: So I never once thought I was going through the
Speaker 2: change though, But I knew something was going on.
Speaker 1: But remember, you are going through change constantly. Our bodies
Speaker 1: are constantly changing, even on a blood change. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you are if I mean, if you're if you're in
Speaker 1: your forties, you are going through the change. You just
Speaker 1: haven't gotten to the big part of the change. You're
Speaker 1: going through these small, minute, po portions of the change.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're going through the change.
Speaker 2: So okay, can you can you like, as long as
Speaker 2: you have your period, that means you're not in perimenopause
Speaker 2: and you're not in menopause.
Speaker 1: So as long as you have your period, so let
Speaker 1: me put it this way, as long as you're continuing
Speaker 1: to consistently have your period, then you are not in menopause,
Speaker 1: but you can still be PERIMENOPAUSM. So the time prior
Speaker 1: to you stopping your period for that twelve months is
Speaker 1: called perimenopause. Now, one thing I want to say, because
Speaker 1: some people will stop their periods for the twelve months
Speaker 1: and then have a period that needs to be investigated
Speaker 1: for endometrial cancer. Mm. Yeah, we have to investigate that.
Speaker 1: So if you stop having your period going on, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you stop your period for twelve months and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you start having you know, bleeding, spotting
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Then that needs to be evaluated
Speaker 1: because it could be a form of cancer. It could
Speaker 1: be and it could be you know that depending on
Speaker 1: where you are, you can have significant stress that trigger something.
Speaker 1: You have this quartisole response you're you know, and then
Speaker 1: you unfortunately start having bleeding, especially in women in fibroids.
Speaker 1: I've seen that happen to them where they have the fibroids,
Speaker 1: and even though in menopause they should be shrinking, but
Speaker 1: you're having some significant stressors going on and for some
Speaker 1: reason you've triggered your hormonal milieu and it actually calls
Speaker 1: you to bleed. But even in that instance, I still
Speaker 1: make sure I'm ruling out intimutual cancer do women, because
Speaker 1: I feel like black women get fibroids more than our
Speaker 1: you know, counterparts. And does that affect like how quick
Speaker 1: you go into perry in menopause when you have fibroids,
Speaker 1: So fibroids doesn't affect that. However, your hormonal changes will
Speaker 1: affect the fibroids. So that's why you see women having
Speaker 1: you know, growth of the fibroids. That's why you also
Speaker 1: see them having these heavy, unbearable periods associated with fibroids.
Speaker 1: So that is all the fibroids are hormonally impacted. So
Speaker 1: that's why you see some of the changes that are
Speaker 1: going on. I wouldn't say that having fibroids puts you
Speaker 1: into perimenopause faster. Remember that is very much based on
Speaker 1: your brain hormones and your ovaries and that communication between both.
Speaker 1: Why do you think that black women get fibroids more
Speaker 1: than other people? Yeah? So, you know what, I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you. Part of that is the stressors that
Speaker 1: we are taking on because you know, estrogen doesn't just
Speaker 1: live in our ovaries, it lives in the adipost tissue
Speaker 1: as well. Okay, Cortisol responses from stressors, what we're eating,
Speaker 1: what our environments are, and then what our genetic history is.
Speaker 1: Oh and for example, my family, they all have many
Speaker 1: people in my family have had fibroids. I've never had fibroids.
Speaker 1: I actually get my ultrasound done to make sure that
Speaker 1: they check for fibroids. But I've also been on progesterone
Speaker 1: for almost my entire life through my IUD. I also
Speaker 1: like I said, practice the Viva Life five for my
Speaker 1: entire almost my entire life, even before I named what
Speaker 1: it was. That's what I do, and so minimize that stress,
Speaker 1: making sure environmentally that I am, you know, not in
Speaker 1: environments that could probably trigger the hormonal responses or growth
Speaker 1: as well as what I'm eating. So food is your
Speaker 1: medicine as well. Do you use sizing salt? Do you
Speaker 1: use season of salt? Because I just cavery lawry is
Speaker 1: what's giving us fibroids, y'all stop you. So do I
Speaker 1: use season in salt sparingly? I would say yes, I
Speaker 1: do loud. You know I grew up I'm flowers too,
Speaker 1: but I use it very sparingly. So if you come
Speaker 1: eat it at my house, you may feel like the
Speaker 1: food might be a little bit more bland than you
Speaker 1: used to. But that being said, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: have hypertension, I don't have diabetes, I'm not overweight, and
Speaker 1: I'm doing this intentionally. So it's really important to when
Speaker 1: you're seasoning your food to make sure that we're minimizing
Speaker 1: the sovium that's attached to it. I swear y'all over
Speaker 1: the years, my mama's food is still good but it
Speaker 1: tastes more like white people food because she don't use
Speaker 1: salt like that no more. She don't well fry no more,
Speaker 1: she don't. Everything is changing. But I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm adopting that a little bit. Okay, yeah, So, I
Speaker 1: mean just taking out fried foods right will make such
Speaker 1: a big difference. And what I tell people is if
Speaker 1: you do it more than ninety percent of the time.
Speaker 1: My colleague says eighty percent of the time. But if
Speaker 1: you eat, you know, on that clean eating more than
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the time or even eighty five percent
Speaker 1: of the time, you're going to be so much better
Speaker 1: off than most people in America. Agent five. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: is Viva life five? You've meant life now, So v
Speaker 1: class stamps for live. Viva means live life. And what
Speaker 1: we're trying to do is help people live their healthiest
Speaker 1: and wealthiest life spiritually. Spiritually exactlycates from women getting money. Okay,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, say we leave no bags on the table, okay,
Speaker 1: So spiritually, physically, financially, mentally, and emotionally, and essentially what
Speaker 1: this entails is you get myself and my fellow consultants
Speaker 1: to help you through webinars podcasts, affirmation rooms. So that's
Speaker 1: the mindfulness pa, journaling, meditating and incorporating that exercise, hormone nutrition,
Speaker 1: and making sure that you sleep. So it's a community
Speaker 1: that we've created in order for you to do five
Speaker 1: things pretty much every day and eat those five foods fruits, vegetables, nuts, grains, things,
Speaker 1: drinking our water. And if you eat meat, make sure
Speaker 1: it's clean and high quality. Do you eat meat? I
Speaker 1: do eat meat. I make sure I try to make
Speaker 1: sure it's clean, the high quality. Now that might be
Speaker 1: the ten percent that I'm not doing correct all the time,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I try to make sure that we're eating
Speaker 1: high quality or minimizing it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't eat meat every single day. Do you eat
Speaker 1: pork at all? I do. I went through the whole
Speaker 1: phase of not eating pork at all, and I did.
Speaker 1: I went through the whole you know, like it was.
Speaker 1: It was funny, it was. I went to I went
Speaker 1: to college, right, I went to Xavier University in New Orleans, Bblisiana.
Speaker 1: I went to HBCU and I was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna eat meat.
Speaker 2: And I got there and I had no money. So
Speaker 2: you had to eat a cafeteria and guess what they
Speaker 2: put out every Friday. Pork chop bacon.
Speaker 1: You're like, all you can eat bacon. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: some of that. Listen. Every time I meet someone over
Speaker 1: one hundred, I asked them do they eat port? And
Speaker 1: they say yes. I ain't meant a person yet over
Speaker 1: one hundred that said they don't eat no port.
Speaker 2: It's not about the pork though, Like the food just
Speaker 2: isn't what it used to be when they were our age, right.
Speaker 1: So that's just like I don't eat a lot of things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not the same.
Speaker 1: I don't eat a lot of pork. If I do
Speaker 1: eat any I eat fish, I eat beef, high quality beef.
Speaker 1: And then if I eat pork, if I be a
Speaker 1: pork chop. Right, So, but it's not fried and all
Speaker 1: that other stuff. But I have everything in moderation and
Speaker 1: choose where you're gonna be. Another big thing is alcohol.
Speaker 1: So minimizing your alcohol is very important through perimenopause and menopause.
Speaker 1: You know, people say one or two drinks a day,
Speaker 1: and I'm like that seems like a lot, But I
Speaker 1: would say minimize it to like one or two drinks
Speaker 1: a week would be better. And if you're noticing that
Speaker 1: you're needing to drink every single day, then we'll probably
Speaker 1: need to talk about whether or not there's some alcoholism
Speaker 1: tendencies that are going on in your life. But that
Speaker 1: will alcohol will exacerbate all the symptoms for a lot
Speaker 1: of people. As I get older, I find that I
Speaker 1: used to have fun, a lot of fun with alcohol,
Speaker 1: but as I get older, I just feel like it
Speaker 1: makes me sick. I don't feel good anymore when I
Speaker 1: drink it. I don't. It takes me like three days
Speaker 1: to get better after just having two or three drinks.
Speaker 1: So does that have something to do with our bodies
Speaker 1: changing too, like I can't liquor the same? Yep, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1: And then the thing is, you know, a little bit
Speaker 1: of red wine is okay, right, not the whole bottle
Speaker 1: and not the glass that fills up with the whole bottle.
Speaker 2: Yea, the one pass one glass.
Speaker 1: Is a whole bottle. No, we're not doing that, but
Speaker 1: a little bit of red wine. And you know, I
Speaker 1: like whiskey, so I might have Sir Davis a couple
Speaker 1: of times in the month, and you know that's what
Speaker 1: I do. I understand what my ninety percent is and
Speaker 1: understanding that. I also understand little things in my body
Speaker 1: that tells me, you know what you're getting out of
Speaker 1: You're getting out of parameters. So if my if my legs,
Speaker 1: my thighs start like touching each other a little bit,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm out of parameters, so i run out live.
Speaker 1: My guys have never not touched like I've touched it.
Speaker 1: I might just see you know well you and you
Speaker 1: just got to know. I can tell when I gain
Speaker 1: five PM, like I know when i'm I know my
Speaker 1: exact weight because I understand my body and like you said,
Speaker 1: you travel a lot, so we retain a lot of
Speaker 1: water and there's some retention there, right, so it takes
Speaker 1: a good forty five days to get that water just
Speaker 1: to get that water weight off, and you have to
Speaker 1: be very intentional about that, so you know, hydrating sometimes
Speaker 1: a little apple sided vinegar. Sometimes I'll do a little
Speaker 1: bit of castoil, olive oil. You know, just to make
Speaker 1: sure that I'm keeping my gud clean healthy is really important,
Speaker 1: So I do, heir, and I what made me bring
Speaker 1: this conversation too, like want to have this conversation is
Speaker 1: so my clients are aging with me, and a lot
Speaker 1: of them are in their late thirties, early forties to fifties.
Speaker 1: I don't have that many twenty somethings anymore. I have some,
Speaker 1: but not that many. And I kept hearing the conversation
Speaker 1: about perimenopause perimenopause, and I had one of my clients
Speaker 1: particularly say that she was concerned because her vagina is
Speaker 1: dry now. She's like, I don't know, Like I used
Speaker 1: to be pouring a glass of water out of me,
Speaker 1: and now it's like a Sahara desert, like it's tumbleweed's
Speaker 1: rolling by when I pulled my kuchie out. Is there
Speaker 1: something that people could write? Is it wild wild watts?
Speaker 1: Is there something because women can do or eat? She's like,
Speaker 1: I'm drinking water, I drink hell of water. I'm eating fruit.
Speaker 1: Is there something that we could do or something that
Speaker 1: women can take to make sure that their vagina they
Speaker 1: keep it their wetness as long as possible when they're
Speaker 1: going through these changes. Yeah, so I will say always
Speaker 1: green leafy vegetables are very important, right, So making sure
Speaker 1: that you're keeping your vitamin D, your iron levels up
Speaker 1: as well as they're going to have what we call
Speaker 1: adaptogens and nutrients that are going to help you keep
Speaker 1: that collagen sometimes some vital estrogens and things like that.
Speaker 1: But then also she can utilize basic things some olive oil,
Speaker 1: a little bit of olive oil, daba olive oil or
Speaker 1: coconut oil in the area and the vaginal area could
Speaker 1: be very helpful. There's also products that kind of like
Speaker 1: there's a product call raplens, but essentially that is a
Speaker 1: lubricant she can use. But I'll be honest with you,
Speaker 1: estrogen based products are like the best thing that you
Speaker 1: can use. If you're okay with using estrogen, place it
Speaker 1: in your vagina, small amount in your vagina a couple
Speaker 1: times a week, and it will help you significantly. Important
Speaker 1: thing though, if you're finding that you're using estrogen, especially
Speaker 1: you're taking it by mouth or you have it on
Speaker 1: a patch, or you're even using it in your vagina
Speaker 1: like every single day, then we need to talk about
Speaker 1: if you still have a uterus using the progesterone as well,
Speaker 1: because we want to protect against that individual cancer that
Speaker 1: we talked about. Mm. Yeah, I started taking Maca. You
Speaker 1: take maca? Yes? Good? Yeah? Oh absolutely helps with the libido. Yes, ma'am. Yes,
Speaker 1: Ostragonda maca what people, let's.
Speaker 2: Go, it's like a like a Peruvian like root. Is
Speaker 2: a plant like ginger like root. Yeah, but it comes
Speaker 2: and it tast really good too. It tastes like a
Speaker 2: like a like a nut. So if you put it
Speaker 2: like in a in a smoothie or something like that,
Speaker 2: it has like a peanut buttery flavor. It's real good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then so I remember when I was having,
Speaker 1: you know, being at work and everything all the time,
Speaker 1: when I was breastfeeding my child. Finnagreek was another one.
Speaker 1: And finnagreek is another plant based supplement that you can
Speaker 1: use to help you moisturize, right, and it helps you
Speaker 1: produce milk, so that that's another type of thing that
Speaker 1: milk fits sole finigreed though, So though, there's if you
Speaker 1: work with an integrated specialist or a natural path they'll
Speaker 1: be able to give you more options in regards to
Speaker 1: more plant based therapies rather than just you know, estrogen
Speaker 1: is the only thing you can use.
Speaker 2: In your organization. Is that what you push towards more
Speaker 2: the holistic you know, because in the medical industry they
Speaker 2: want to push medicine. It's pharmacia Okay, that's the real,
Speaker 2: real witchcraft as far as I'm concerned. Right, So they
Speaker 2: push more you know, pharmaceutical medication as opposed to the organic.
Speaker 2: There's really not a lot of doctors out there that
Speaker 2: you know. I was just at the doctor recently and
Speaker 2: I told her I do black seed oil for my
Speaker 2: blood pressure, and you know, she immediately went into, well,
Speaker 2: you know, the studies and all this other you know,
Speaker 2: trying to deter you from doing more alternatives. So that
Speaker 2: is that what you lean more towards as opposed to
Speaker 2: like traditional medicine.
Speaker 1: Right, So I'm about all of it, right. I try
Speaker 1: to make sure that people know their options, whether they
Speaker 1: are non pharmaceutical or pharmaceutical. But I also try to
Speaker 1: make sure that people understand the risk benefits of each
Speaker 1: because if we're talking about it, you know, many things
Speaker 1: are plant based, even if they are FDA approved or
Speaker 1: through the pharmacy, many hands are plant based. If you're
Speaker 1: compounding something then cassable. At a lot of times you're
Speaker 1: using some type of plant plant based. So I think
Speaker 1: it's really important, and I'll be honest with you. In
Speaker 1: traditional medicine, they don't teach this portion of supplements plant
Speaker 1: based medications or therapies, So which had come in that
Speaker 1: y'all the real year. So that's why it's important. Like
Speaker 1: I was saying, you know, look behind the name and say,
Speaker 1: are you a functional medicine physician? Have you gotten your
Speaker 1: naturopathic training, whether it's a certification or your actual natural
Speaker 1: pactic doctor? And how do you put both of those
Speaker 1: things together? What are my alternatives besides using what I
Speaker 1: can get from former pharmacy. So give me non pharmacy
Speaker 1: and pharmacy associated therapies that can be useful for me.
Speaker 1: I believe in acupuncture, chiropractic work, like I've done all
Speaker 1: these things, so I absolutely know that I don't have
Speaker 1: to be in pain. Excuse me, I don't have to
Speaker 1: take pain medications to resolve my pain. There's other options
Speaker 1: for it as well. The pain, not my pain, the.
Speaker 2: Pain, So let's not take that in our Let's not
Speaker 2: take that in our bodies, right right.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I've always had a healthy sexual appetite,
Speaker 1: but it feels like since I turned forty, Like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm like, who's calling my phone? Who's calling my phone?
Speaker 2: Like I wake it up?
Speaker 1: I'm like horny, Like all the time is that like
Speaker 1: something that happens before Parry. Is that like normal or
Speaker 1: is it? It is? So? I remember I told you
Speaker 1: in perimenopause, your hormones are doing this right, so you're
Speaker 1: going through this wax and way, so you're really feeling
Speaker 1: so And also I told you perimenopause and many is
Speaker 1: just like puberty, and what happened in puberty You found yourself.
Speaker 1: You found all of that hotness. So that's one of
Speaker 1: the things that you can actually experience. And that's why
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful taking certain things like maca. Right,
Speaker 1: you take maca, you go, you might elevate or take
Speaker 1: it like it helps men's libido. Jim, Yeah, absolutely, So
Speaker 1: I'm going through I shouldn't take no moca right now
Speaker 1: because I might just have to be chandelier if I
Speaker 1: take some of that shit. I feel like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: have to be careful. You have to be careful about it.
Speaker 1: And so that's why having that personal line conversation and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: what symptoms are you experiencing and what do what do
Speaker 1: you want to temper or what do you want to improve?
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing about you know, anything that
Speaker 1: you decide to take you should be taking it because
Speaker 1: it's supplementing what is going on in your body. So,
Speaker 1: like you said, you might not need maca root, but
Speaker 1: you might need something to help you with stress or
Speaker 1: calm me down. So you know that's something, and that's
Speaker 1: a different opportunity for you. I will say, somebody asked me,
Speaker 1: do I have to take hormone replacement therapy estrogen replacement
Speaker 1: therapy progesterone if you still be uterus? And I will
Speaker 1: say that the number one killer of women, especially black
Speaker 1: women's cardiovascular disease point blank, hypertension, stroke, arrhythmius. Right, And
Speaker 1: so what has been found is that the estrogen the
Speaker 1: replacement is reducing the cardiovascular disease. Now, you got to
Speaker 1: do all the other things too. So if you so
Speaker 1: choose not to take the replacement, then you got you
Speaker 1: really got to do all the other things when we
Speaker 1: talk about the stress reduction, the exercise, the nutrition, and
Speaker 1: the sleeps, and we really need to get our sleep, ladies.
Speaker 1: I mean, there is nothing wrong with sleeping.
Speaker 2: I love down. Okay, I keep staying making T shirts
Speaker 2: that say that I love to Later, I get my sleep.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's always RESTful, though, yes, I
Speaker 2: do have hot flashes at night. Sometimes I'd be hot
Speaker 2: as hell at night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so those are the hormonal change wets talking about.
Speaker 1: But back to your question about the sex. If you're
Speaker 1: feeling hot and horny, I think it's okay. I mean,
Speaker 1: I will say when I was in my early forty
Speaker 1: that was the best time of my life. Baby. I
Speaker 1: was like this, I've been I've been missing this. I
Speaker 1: didn't you know I was. I was away from my husband,
Speaker 1: I was deployed when I was pregnant with my child,
Speaker 1: so I didn't get like that, like pregnancy sex that
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about. I didn't get all of that.
Speaker 1: But Babe, when I turned forty, it was on the topic.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It feels like I'm crazy right now. It's great,
Speaker 1: it's wonderful. And bursic got me going so crazy right now.
Speaker 2: Yes, that I definitely be horny. Man, I don't want
Speaker 2: it to stop, though.
Speaker 1: I don't, so that's why we have no time.
Speaker 2: I don't wanted to stop.
Speaker 1: Not okay, That's why we're having this conversation so that
Speaker 1: we can prevent it from stopping.
Speaker 2: My doctor asked me the other day if I still
Speaker 2: get a period, I'm like, yes, the fuck I dude,
Speaker 2: I'm happy about it. I need to see my shit
Speaker 2: every month.
Speaker 1: And it's really important to track yourself, right. People used
Speaker 1: to track their periods so they can see whether or
Speaker 1: not they could get pregnant. Are they pregnant, that whole thing.
Speaker 1: But it's still important to track your cycle as you're
Speaker 1: going through this. And it's not just tracking the period,
Speaker 1: is tracking the symptoms associated with the cycles. So remember
Speaker 1: your cycle is every twenty one to thirty days. That's
Speaker 1: a cycle. The period is just the mysteration. That's just
Speaker 1: a certain part. But you know you're going to feel
Speaker 1: you know, more loving and accepting at some part in
Speaker 1: your cycle, and other times you'd be like, get off
Speaker 1: of me, you know, I don't want to be bothered.
Speaker 1: So it's really important to understand that and see how
Speaker 1: many times you are feeling that through the day, because
Speaker 1: then you can start tracking your perimenopausal symptoms into menopause.
Speaker 1: What conversation should mothers and daughters be having about menopause
Speaker 1: that most of us aren't all of this because you
Speaker 1: know your children are going to experience your menopause, probably
Speaker 1: they're going to notice something that's changing faster than you
Speaker 1: notice the change in yourself. So having these conversations with
Speaker 1: your boys and girls or however they identify, and making
Speaker 1: sure that you're having these conversations to say, you know,
Speaker 1: this is the menstrual cycle, this is menc's, this is
Speaker 1: what happens when you're in your twenties to thirties. Is
Speaker 1: what happens in your thirties and forties, forties and fifties beyond.
Speaker 1: But in order to have those conversations, we need to
Speaker 1: be educated about those conversations, which is why I love
Speaker 1: coming on podcasts. This is why I love having corporate sessions.
Speaker 1: So we provide six corporate sessions to corporations organizations to
Speaker 1: improve women health in their organization, and then we do
Speaker 1: the individual discussions as well.
Speaker 2: So you're so ko koe, right, consult it's not just
Speaker 2: for corporations. Individuals can also.
Speaker 1: Right, So the corporations. So that's why we created Viva
Speaker 1: Life SPF ME, which is the program that's more like
Speaker 1: having the group conversation individually based, and that's where you'll
Speaker 1: get the podcast, the webinars and the coaching sessions, right.
Speaker 1: But the corporate sessions are when we go in we
Speaker 1: try to improve health inequities for different healthcare plans as
Speaker 1: well as if we're like if I'm at Boeing or
Speaker 1: something or another corporation, then we're working with the women
Speaker 1: on the top five diseases that are happening. We're educating
Speaker 1: them so that they have a health plan. Well, what
Speaker 1: do I talk to my physician or practitioner about so
Speaker 1: that I can actually get the benefit out of this
Speaker 1: healthcare plan instead of just like paying this, you know,
Speaker 1: one hundred to one thousand dollars two thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 2: Yeah and yees. Right now is like open enrollment, and
Speaker 2: I cannot stand it. I don't know what the hell
Speaker 2: is going on half the time.
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to figure it out. It's hard
Speaker 1: to figure it out to do those comparisons. But you
Speaker 1: know what go on chat GPT put in your information
Speaker 1: and say what health care plan is best for me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you know this is so off topic.
Speaker 2: I don't be fucking with CHATGBT like that because I
Speaker 2: feel like it starts like then tracking you, because it's
Speaker 2: some stuff in there that I'm like, why are you
Speaker 2: suggesting this to me? This has nothing to do with
Speaker 2: what I just asked you about. So they have all
Speaker 2: your conversations and they know you now they.
Speaker 1: Do, so there's a way for you to turn off.
Speaker 1: There's a way to turn off the learning piece that
Speaker 1: they can't get those conversations out into like everybody's else's
Speaker 1: learning piece. Right. But there's a great person her name
Speaker 1: is Alicia Little. She teaches AI and she will give
Speaker 1: you all the tips, tricks and the tools for it.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be afraid of it. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm prior military, right, I retired from the military, babe
Speaker 1: chat GBT and got nothing on what the henilitary has
Speaker 1: already been doing already know. So it's it's just one
Speaker 1: of those things. It has been out for thirty years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's just one of those things like either you
Speaker 1: get ahead of it or it gets ahead of you.
Speaker 1: Either you are the food or you become the farmer.
Speaker 1: So just decide where you want to be with.
Speaker 2: That, I understand. Yep.
Speaker 1: All right, is there anything that you want to tell
Speaker 1: our listeners that they need to know about Perry? That
Speaker 1: there is imperative that they understand about Perry mendoopause and
Speaker 1: menopause before you go. Absolutely, so, Perry menopause. Menopause, it's
Speaker 1: going to happen, so don't be afraid of it happening.
Speaker 1: Be educated, understand it. Track your cycles, track your mencies,
Speaker 1: track your symptoms. Talk to your family. We should know
Speaker 1: our family histories and if you're adopted, you know, try
Speaker 1: to figure out genetically what's going on. But have these conversations.
Speaker 1: Do not be afraid of the change, and reach out
Speaker 1: to your subject matter experts that you know, that's what
Speaker 1: we do. We trained in this, and those subject matter
Speaker 1: experts don't have to be you know, older. Everybody you
Speaker 1: know older doesn't know. Everybody that says O, B G,
Speaker 1: I N actually doesn't know. But make sure you find
Speaker 1: out those resources that you can really get that that
Speaker 1: conversation that is specific towards you. Do not be afraid
Speaker 1: of this. It can be the best time of your
Speaker 1: life as well and period.
Speaker 2: Basically, reach out to Koe Medical Consulting.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, so yeah doctor Kelly om D D
Speaker 1: r K E L L y O m D dot com.
Speaker 1: If you want to join Viva Life or get some
Speaker 1: consulting services. I'm definitely going to reach out. I want
Speaker 1: to do and I need to change how I'm living
Speaker 1: because I love it. I eat bacon, A piece of bacon.
Speaker 1: Hate to see me coming. I threw it. Now, well,
Speaker 1: I definitely need to make some lifestyle changes, all right,
Speaker 1: So we have a segment called the Dumb Bitch Story.
Speaker 1: I told you a little bit about it. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a break, and when we come back, I
Speaker 1: want you to share a story with us. All right, guys,
Speaker 1: we are back, and doctor Kelly has her story. Go ahead, alrighty,
Speaker 1: So when you first told me this, I was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't never been a right, right no virgo.
Speaker 1: I almost got to ask that, what's your son? I'm
Speaker 1: a virgo born on set. Some reports the damn story
Speaker 1: tell a lie? Are you pimp in your whole life?
Speaker 1: Virgoals are? I was like, yeah, never got played a virgo.
Speaker 2: They somebody kind of twisted to its always in their favor.
Speaker 1: Even though I was on the phone, you was crying
Speaker 1: about it. But okay, two years lady, like didn't happen.
Speaker 2: You got it? Go ahead, Brighton and I at that
Speaker 2: a September the fourth Urgo as well.
Speaker 1: So that's a whole other level. But my story is
Speaker 1: I remember when I was in college, right and I
Speaker 1: didn't have a car, I didn't have no money, whatever
Speaker 1: the case may be. And this guy said, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to take you out. But I wasn't the
Speaker 1: type of person that was giving out nothing. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you wasn't. You weren't getting anything if you weren't in
Speaker 1: a long term relationship with me and he we had
Speaker 1: set up to have go on a date and I'm excited,
Speaker 1: I'm dressed, ready, the whole thing. I'm looking out the window,
Speaker 1: you know, wait for him to call to say he
Speaker 1: was downstairs so I can come out my dorm room.
Speaker 1: And the call never came, and I was like, what
Speaker 1: just happened? And so maybe a thirty six hours later,
Speaker 1: I get a phone call like, oh hey, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, some things came up. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, is your mom said right just passed away?
Speaker 1: Did you get in a car accident? And he was
Speaker 1: like no, noa NOA. I was like okay, and he's like,
Speaker 1: so when you want me to pick you up? I
Speaker 1: was like never click. So that was my that was
Speaker 1: my story. And I got stood up for a date
Speaker 1: and that never happened again. I just needed to make
Speaker 1: sure that you know, he wasn't dead somewhere, his mama
Speaker 1: didn't die, because if he told me that, I might
Speaker 1: have you know my name. So you never ever got
Speaker 1: you never even found out why he missed the date.
Speaker 1: You ain't care why virgos, These virgos boys.
Speaker 2: It's not a dumb bitch story.
Speaker 1: Now. If you would have said, day, yeah, he called again.
Speaker 2: Three weeks and three more weeks later then and I'm
Speaker 2: going out with him again, then that's dumb bitch. That
Speaker 2: was the dumbest I've ever been. But you know I
Speaker 2: will I will tell you why. No, I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1: It's because I grew up with you know, my brothers,
Speaker 1: my god brothers. They I used to listen to my
Speaker 1: brothers roll game on girls all the time. They got shoes, clothes, cars, whatever,
Speaker 1: and they would be like, wash this, and they said,
Speaker 1: don't ever be a chicken head. But who's the chicken head?
Speaker 1: And really, unwitches lily guy had ship. So that's that's
Speaker 1: what that's what they told me, and so I listened.
Speaker 1: I listened the whole time. And I work in a
Speaker 1: male dominated environment right my whole life. I'm a surgeon.
Speaker 1: I'm a doctor, I'm in then I was in the
Speaker 1: Navy for twenty six years. I was like, yeah, y'all
Speaker 1: not getting me.
Speaker 2: I feel you.
Speaker 1: No, I'm here for that. But that was like not
Speaker 1: a dumbest story. I thought about this all night too,
Speaker 1: that one time. That one nigga like what had this
Speaker 1: big card? Like when? Because when I told her, She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never even played. I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I'm like, come up with you.
Speaker 1: Why do you have another one? And I'm still like
Speaker 1: a salty about it. But you know, I invested in
Speaker 1: a friend's company and I looked at all the financials
Speaker 1: and everything like that. I'm still waiting for my money.
Speaker 1: So if that's another one, that could be another one
Speaker 1: that's will be very careful about your investments, and especially
Speaker 1: if you're trying to help a friend out and see
Speaker 1: them grow, and you know, in this day and age
Speaker 1: when everybody's like, you know, support black businesses and all
Speaker 1: that other stuff. Naboo, I need to see your financials,
Speaker 1: your tax reports. I need to see like open them
Speaker 1: books everything, open the books. So that would be another
Speaker 1: another dB story. A DVS. We are you dating that person? No, No,
Speaker 1: we just have been friends for like over twenty years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't count.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Anytime money and somebody owe me some money,
Speaker 2: I might have been a dumb bitch giving you my money.
Speaker 1: I might have been Yeah, yeah that was the that
Speaker 1: was the DBS. That that's another big DBS. Now this
Speaker 1: younger one. That was a young DBS. This older one.
Speaker 1: I probably should have, you know, thought a little bit
Speaker 1: harder and listened to you trying to help though, So
Speaker 1: that don't mean well I don't have them. I'm a
Speaker 1: Bergo born on September or fourth.
Speaker 2: I'm urgalarizing, and I definitely not got played a couple
Speaker 2: of times in life, man, definitely. Okay, I'm about to
Speaker 2: take the nigga on vacation on Monday, so I rooby
Speaker 2: have a dumb bitch story for y'all week. We'll see, Hey,
Speaker 2: nigga be in the bathroom all the time.
Speaker 1: I think, Kelly, I haven't joined Viva Life five yet.
Speaker 1: Come on through. We'll help you not be a d
Speaker 1: d S. All right, all right, one more time. Tell
Speaker 1: everybody they where they can find you, where they can
Speaker 1: follow you on social media, plug all your things. Oh
Speaker 1: thank you so much.
Speaker 2: So I'm doctor Kelly OMZ and you can find me
Speaker 2: www dot d r K E L L y O
Speaker 2: m D dot com if you go there, Instagram doctor
Speaker 2: Kelly Omd as well as Facebook, Instagram, Viva Life SPF me.
Speaker 2: So just go to the website, click all the little
Speaker 2: buttons and you'll find me. All right, thank you so much,
Speaker 2: doctor Kelly.
Speaker 1: Fun. This is end. I got a lot of information
Speaker 1: that I needed, so thank you so so very much. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I have fun too, thanks for bringing out You know,
Speaker 1: the virgos can be real serious, so thank you for
Speaker 1: bringing out the laughter and me as well. Good you
Speaker 1: get into the bag.
Speaker 2: That's one thing about it.
Speaker 1: Virgo boy, they go ahead and get I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: that bag.
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