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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's doctor Kelly om Z and I'm on

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Speaker 1: We Talked Back Podcast. I can't wait for you to

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Speaker 1: hear us talk about perimenopause and menopause. We're gonna give

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Speaker 1: you some real information so that you can keep it wet,

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Speaker 1: clean and fantastic through your forties and fifties.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to We talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: and the Black Effect Network Talk Talk.

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Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion. Who

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Speaker 1: talks back. What's up, y'all? It's your girl, a j Holiday,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Tam Bam? Hey y'all, it's Beet Tam Vam.

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Speaker 1: I love y'all so so very much, and I'm glad

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Speaker 1: y'all came back. I'm miss Jake. How was your weekend?

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Speaker 2: How your weekend? Probably be in their car. They probably

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Speaker 2: be in their car like AJ Gonna says, Tamgo sad age,

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Speaker 2: and then tam Go say, how is your weekend? They

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Speaker 2: saying it with you like and then.

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Speaker 1: A Gonna say, i'd eventful, I ain't do mind that thing.

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Speaker 1: I went to cost Co.

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Speaker 2: I definitely went to Costco. Definitely went to TJ Max

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Speaker 2: and my super bright light skinned homegirl who's been in

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Speaker 2: town since. I was like, I don't know, twelve came

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Speaker 2: by this weekend, so I ain't too much, just chilling

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Speaker 2: and being grateful. I did go see my mom. I

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Speaker 2: hung out with her a little bit on Sunday. I

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Speaker 2: know she loves it when I come sit over there

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Speaker 2: line your whole day be gone. But I don't know this.

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Speaker 2: I worked out a little bit and that's about it.

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Speaker 2: I ain't too much this weekend for real. I really

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Speaker 2: just relaxed and chilled.

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Speaker 1: I was just working. It's that time of year where

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Speaker 1: I'm busy, you know, Thank you Jesus. So I've just

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Speaker 1: been working. I had nothing eventful happened. Oh no, I lie.

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Speaker 1: I went to you always.

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Speaker 2: It's like.

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Speaker 1: I went to a my teeth lived white as hell.

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Speaker 1: I think it's that.

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Speaker 2: I was just about to say that bitch, like, what

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Speaker 2: the fuck, nop, he's super white.

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Speaker 1: It's the I think it's the light. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but anyway, I went to this new spot in Charlotte

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Speaker 1: called Astra Mediterranean something lounge, and it was like one

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Speaker 1: of those it was like a halal place, but it

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Speaker 1: had the hookah and it's loud. It was good. You know.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have an alcohol, but I don't want none

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Speaker 1: of that anyway. And I had some food and it

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Speaker 1: was nice. And then I went to Crave and Dessert

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Speaker 1: Bar and I got a That's one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: spots in Charlotte. I still love Crave. Yes, just consistent, yeah,

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Speaker 1: consistent quality. And I had like a little hookah little

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Speaker 1: cocktail and uh, carrot cake cupcake. Yes, and that was it.

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Speaker 2: That was We don't eat the bread pudding from there.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a bread pudding girly girl. Yeah, I've never

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Speaker 2: had bread putting out that I think about it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you tripping when I tell you.

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Speaker 2: Me and Basilicia just go there for the bread pudding

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Speaker 2: because they give you you know, it's like a little

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Speaker 2: little saucer and a rampkin. That's what they call it,

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Speaker 2: a little ramkin. And they have like the ramikan and

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Speaker 2: they have the like the frosty sauce, you know, the

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Speaker 2: white shit. What is it called iced? I used to

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Speaker 2: have like icing, yeah, like a little thing on the side. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm not a super duper uh what is this ship?

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Speaker 2: Bread pudding girly, But I did grow up off a

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Speaker 2: bread pudding. And they have a very very very very

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Speaker 2: good bread pudding. If they still have it on the menu,

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Speaker 2: you should try it next time.

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Speaker 1: I'll try it. I've never had bread pudding. Always associated

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Speaker 1: bread pudding and fruitcake. It's the same thing, like forge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just theirs is really good.

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Speaker 1: Like so old hot food.

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Speaker 2: It is old people food, because old people when like

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Speaker 2: the bread is about to get old, they just turn

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Speaker 2: that shit into bread, right. Our French toast, French TOAs

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Speaker 2: have a little mold on it, old ass bread.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, that was it sounds fun.

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Speaker 2: Let's get in the sin, y'all. So Paul Pears says

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Speaker 2: the only way to really know if a girl loves

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Speaker 2: you is a cheat on her and see how she reacts.

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Speaker 2: So is this his podcast? I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 2: think so. I mean, Paul Parris is one of the

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Speaker 2: Truth after Dark podcast, and he sparked a lot of

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Speaker 2: backlash by claiming that the only authentic way to determine

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Speaker 2: if a woman truly loves you is the cheat on

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Speaker 2: her and observe her reaction. He suggested that loyalty in

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Speaker 2: the aftermath of infidelity proves devotion that is disgusting. And

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of us, a lot of women,

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Speaker 2: and I have really been thinking, like, you know, if

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Speaker 2: you you go through some shit in and stay stated

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Speaker 2: down ass woman like, he's gonna choose you type mentality.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I ain't never been a dumb bitch in

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Speaker 2: that way. I definitely have dealt with infidelity and relationships

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Speaker 2: only really because it's just human nature. Like, but I

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Speaker 2: don't recognize now I don't have to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, does sound crazy, Like what in the hell?

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Speaker 2: Don't test me because you're gonna fail every fucking time married.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's p paris married.

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Speaker 1: He can't be married.

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Speaker 2: The type of shit he be talking in there, talking

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Speaker 2: about it, get it, get a live or seven if

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Speaker 2: you are okay. The worst part is these are old

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Speaker 2: farts talking like this. These are old ass fucking men

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Speaker 2: like you know. And then he said the best way

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Speaker 2: to see if a girl loves you. That's the problem

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Speaker 2: right there, y'all fucking with girls.

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Speaker 1: Girls are not grown.

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Speaker 2: By a woman. Okay, because women be making niggas cry. Okay,

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Speaker 2: because I'm gonna make you cry.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna break Christmas thing. I'm getting the fun up

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Speaker 1: out of there.

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Speaker 2: It's so toxic, really is So basically you want to

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Speaker 2: hurt the person you say you love because that's what

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Speaker 2: you're doing, right to see if they love you.

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Speaker 1: That's weird. Yeah, you don't love her, You don't love her. Advice,

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Speaker 1: don't listen to that nigga. You go find yourself alone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also you're not a millionaire, okay, so don't look.

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Speaker 2: Don't listen to a ball and ass baller.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: The type of should he be doing, y'all, not the

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Speaker 2: same what you're going to.

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Speaker 1: Lose because she loved him. She might stay because it's

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Speaker 2: Her her uh, her lifestyle is just completely different. Right,

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Speaker 2: So you're trying to compare ourselves to Beyonce and jay

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Speaker 2: Z relationship when we use the relationships with y'all and niggas, right,

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Speaker 2: So don't be this is But the thing is is

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Speaker 2: loud because I really I remember when I broke up

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Speaker 2: he was like, we ain't supposed to break up, Like

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Speaker 2: he mentioned his other friends right, and how they went

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Speaker 2: through all these things and she stayed like I've already

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Speaker 2: went through things and stayed I don't feel like going

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Speaker 2: through anything else. Nigga, you putting me out? Are you dumb?

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Speaker 2: She's dumb.

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Speaker 1: You've reached the quota, nigga, like you way past the.

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Speaker 2: Threshold of bullshit. And my tolerance for bullshit is so

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Speaker 2: fucking high because I just understand human nature, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And I'm not a fucking loser. So

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Speaker 2: even in relationships, I'm gonna try my fucking best. But

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Speaker 2: at what point do you think you can can discontinuously

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Speaker 2: be disloyal and a relationship and the woman is supposed

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Speaker 2: to keep you and stay like bitch, just get tired

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Speaker 2: right here. And the thing is that I don't never

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Speaker 2: think I can't do better. I can do comparable to

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Speaker 1: Time, every single time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think women just gotta up they self esteem. Man,

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Speaker 2: Get the fuck up out of there. Whether he got

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Speaker 1: All right, that part, all right? Listen to this, Listen

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Speaker 1: to this. A wanted man in Ohio sent the police

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Speaker 1: a selfie after seeing his photo on the news. Because

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Speaker 1: he didn't like how I look and it wasn't the

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Speaker 1: most flattering picture of hearing y'all. So a man in

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Speaker 1: Ohio made headlines after sending police a selfie because he

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Speaker 1: didn't like the muck shots shown on the news. Identified

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Speaker 1: as Donald Pugh, he was wanted for skipping a court

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Speaker 1: appearance and linked to other cases like arson and vandalism.

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Speaker 1: He even emailed the police saying his muck shot was

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Speaker 1: terrible and offered a better photo of himself wearing sunglasses

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Speaker 1: in the car. Police think for being helpful, but reminded

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Speaker 1: him to rather see him in person to discuss his charges.

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Speaker 1: History quickly with viral proven that crime and vanity don't

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Speaker 2: But as he in jail, though, the nigga saw himself

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Speaker 2: in the news. All y'all got me fucked up here, And.

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Speaker 1: The photo, y'all, the photo that he seeing is much better.

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Speaker 1: It's a better undil hate nas police. They know they

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Speaker 1: could have picked a better picture than that, right, They

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Speaker 1: trying to make me look like a hardened criminal, right.

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Speaker 2: He probably he definitely probably wanted for some scamming shit, okay.

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Speaker 1: To be like mentally ill to do this right or

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Speaker 2: You know, he's just having fun, Like I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: to jail anyway, man, Let me just might as well.

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Speaker 1: Look joy my time.

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Speaker 2: I'm a what two chain song fresh his head when

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Speaker 2: the fans comes, head, when the fans come, That's what

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Speaker 2: he was doing.

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Speaker 1: This nigga. I know he from young Town, Ohio. He's

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Speaker 2: I thought he was from Harlem.

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Speaker 1: No oh hi, oh yeah. They're flashing people too and her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't take no fuck up picture of me, y'all.

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Speaker 2: So remember last week we were talking about and I

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Speaker 2: know you've probably seen it now, this black woman I

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Speaker 2: think they were in.

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Speaker 1: Was it Ohio? California? Might have been California. That's happened

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Speaker 1: at a Golden gym, Tish Hyman.

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Speaker 2: She accused this man of exposing himself essentially in the

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Speaker 2: woman's locker room, and he says he's a transgender woman

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Speaker 2: and he belongs in a women's locker room. The gem

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Speaker 2: ultimately kicked her out, the woman Tish Hyman, and basically

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Speaker 2: canceled her membership after she, you know, was yelling in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the of the goals gym, like what

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Speaker 2: the fuck is wroman?

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Speaker 1: Y'all?

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Speaker 2: It's a grown man in the bathroom. But this week, y'all,

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Speaker 2: apparently this same man transgender person accused of exposing himself

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Speaker 2: ex wife.

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Speaker 1: Before take get her Name?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Tiss was not wrong for calling his ass out.

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Speaker 2: And first of all, when are you going to transition?

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Speaker 2: When are you gonna actually transition? When are you gonna

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Speaker 2: cut that dick off? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Because if you still got it, you got a transition,

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Speaker 1: because can you can you be called trans if you

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Speaker 1: still have your uh birth parts?

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like to me, I thought that

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Speaker 2: trans meaning the woman or the man has transitioned, transitioned

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Speaker 2: into the other sex by way of the sex change.

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Speaker 2: If there hasn't been a sex change, and there hasn't

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Speaker 2: been a legal name change, and this person just can

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Speaker 1: you're if you are eating outside of those things, you're

430
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: going to see your body respond even more to having

431
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: this decrease in estrogen. So that is what is going around.

432
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: Your hormone levels are dropping and you are starting to

433
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: see the our bodies respond, our tissues respond, our organs

434
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: respond to that. Should we be taken like estrogen? Sorry,

435
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: So it is that is a very personal conversation. So

436
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: every single person should have that conversation with their provider

437
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: because we have to think about what's your family history,

438
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: what's your personal history, and there are certain things that

439
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: if you are active, like if you have active breast cancer, no,

440
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: we're not going to give you hormone replacement, right, we

441
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: may and sometimes we can do something local to the vagina,

442
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: but that's one of those things we have to have

443
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: that conversation about. If you have excessive i mean, excuse me,

444
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: uncontrolled hypertension, we have to have a conversation about that

445
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: because the cardiovascular risk could increase depending on what your

446
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: cardiovascular risks are. So it's not that it's a complete no,

447
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: but we have to have a conversation with you about

448
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: your personal history. In order to recommend. Now, hold on,

449
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: you said you could do something to the vagina, what

450
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 1: is it? Tighten it, make it more wet, like what

451
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: is it for? Shop for shop?

452
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: So, as you know, your vagina is very like responsive

453
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 2: to estrogen, So the estrogen, collagen, the juiciness, all of that, right,

454
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: we need to make sure that we are able to

455
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: keep that, like you said, moisten wet, if.

456
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: That's what you so choose and how you so choose

457
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: to use it. One thing I tell people, and this

458
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: is a I don't know if it's a mythory, Well

459
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,719
Speaker 1: it's a truth on my basis. If you don't use it,

460
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: you will lose it, Okay.

461
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 2: So the point of the matter is get worried about that.

462
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: I'll go through like spirits. Well I don't.

463
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: But and so what I say is if I use it,

464
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: I don't like you.

465
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: We gotta make sure it's clean, healthy, and as wet

466
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: as you want it to be. Right. So that being said,

467
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: if you need to utilize a vaginal like moisturizer, you

468
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: can use that, right, So we have a placements for that.

469
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: We also can use vaginal estrogen locally so that you

470
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: can continue to keep that area like I said healthy

471
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: and moist because besides getting the itchy, scratchy vagina, as

472
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: long as you don't have any inflammation or infection associated

473
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: with it, you can also have what we call urinary

474
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: tract effect what seems like to be urinary tract infections,

475
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: and what we call that is the genital urinary syndrome

476
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: or symptoms of menopause perimenopause. And that's because those estrogen

477
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: levels are so low and it's dry, and now you're

478
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: getting all of these symptoms associated that seem like urinary

479
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: attract infections but may or may not be.

480
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: You have all these things for like men libido, right,

481
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: So we have creams right like you're saying, but do

482
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: we have a viagraa type pill for women's libidos? Like

483
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: everything is catered to men prolonging their I don't know,

484
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: sexual sex.

485
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so actually there are medications for women that help

486
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: them improve their libido, their sex drive also, like I said,

487
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: improve improve their vaginal moisture, the elasticity of your entire

488
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: body as far as your skin and everything like that.

489
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're coming, they're on the market. They're not

490
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: talked about as much, but they are you know more

491
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: and more are coming out and especially, like I said,

492
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: we have this at you at the health and Human

493
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: services level. Now, we have some really powerful obgu I

494
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: N eurogynecology advocates that are there in Congress and making

495
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: sure these things are moving forward. So we have you know,

496
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: we have we have different opportunities for different people, so

497
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: you know it's not just a one stop shot hormone

498
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 1: replacementary therapy. When we talk about estrogen replacement, that is

499
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: definitely the the therapy that is going to help you

500
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: with your hot flashes. That's like the gold standard to

501
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: help prevent the hot flashes, which is what most people

502
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: hear about. But then there are other opportunities for us

503
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: as well if you don't want to use estrogen based

504
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: or progesterone based products.

505
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: Is this true or false? Like does having a direct

506
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: me cause perimenopause or menopause Earlierly? Like that stage to

507
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: happen early, Because when you talk about knowing your family

508
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: history and stuff like that, I don't know a woman

509
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: in my family who's not over you know, fifty who

510
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: have not already had a hysterectomy from my mom, aunt's

511
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: older cousins. So I can't pinpoint what's what Like, I

512
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: am always happy when I see my period, right right,

513
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love seeing my period because I mean,

514
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 2: I'm still I'm still youthful. I can still get pregnant,

515
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 2: pop that couch. I can do all things, okay, But

516
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: how do you know when everybody like, I don't know

517
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: when my mom would have went through menopause, especially now

518
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: you're saying like when menopause starts, it doesn't stop, like

519
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: that's just the rest of your life is menopause. Right now,

520
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: I don't know the difference between PMS and or menopause

521
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: with these old ladies.

522
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand, I understand. It's me. Yeah, so ask

523
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: your question again because I got in, you know, with

524
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: the PAPTA. I got throw off with the pop. Sorry,

525
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, pop couci because listen, it's women in menopause

526
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: still popping their koucie. Don't get yes, absolutely, which is

527
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: why I need to mention this that we still need

528
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: to even though people are like, oh, I can't get

529
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: pregnant because I've gone through menopause, my eggs and run out.

530
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: The likelihood of me getting pregnant is very, very low.

531
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: But I never put anything past the higher power. We

532
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: still need to prevent STDs. So gotneria chamitia herpe' heppatitus HIV.

533
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: So because people are living longer, stronger, and thriving past

534
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: their fifties, we still need to reprevent all of that.

535
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: But go back to your menopause quicker right, oh with

536
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: instaur Yes, that's what.

537
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: So. So it's interesting because hysterectomy means removal of the uterus.

538
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: But if you ask the woman if I you've had

539
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: a hysterectomy, many of them don't know whether or not

540
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: they got their ovaries and rears remove, right, so it's

541
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: not even a partial hys direct me. The removal of

542
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: an ovaries is called a oopharectomy, that's what it's called.

543
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: The removal of the tubes is called a salping jectomy.

544
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: The removal of the uterus is called a hysterectomy. So, yes,

545
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: you have to very much get into the nuance with

546
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: people about that. Now, sometimes when you remove the uterus,

547
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: some of the blood flow that would be going to

548
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: the ovaries decreases, so people can see the changes. Like

549
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: I said, you can have some minstrul excuse me, you

550
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: can have some perimenopause symptoms that seem to come on

551
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: maybe not faster, but because you have decreased blood flow,

552
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: you're getting those types those same type of symptoms. It's

553
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: more when that estrogen level is gone. So if you

554
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: have your ovaries removed, then yes, no longer are you. Yes,

555
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: you are in medical or surgical menopause right then and there.

556
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: So you can have surgical menopause, meaning that I took

557
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: out your ovaries or decreased the significant flow to your ovaries.

558
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 1: You can have medical menopause, which means I gave you

559
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: medication to stop the function of your ovaries. Or you

560
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: can have what a quote unquote natural menopause, where you've

561
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: just matured and aged into menopause. And that is a

562
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: questions because so many people are like, welly have my

563
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: uterers taken out? I don't know if I'm gone through menopause.

564
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: If you listen to your body, you will absolutely know

565
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,239
Speaker 1: when you stop cycling. But we have to be in

566
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: tune with our bodies. And that's why I teach a

567
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: lot about mindset and knowing yourself from the inside out.

568
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: I had a friend she was fighting breast cancer, and

569
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: she said that she was going into early menopause because

570
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: of the medicine is that this happened from chemotherapy will

571
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: send you into early menopause. So that's what we call

572
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: medical menopause. So yes, you can you can actually end

573
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: up starting to have the symptoms. You can fully go

574
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: into menopause, or you can go into a state of

575
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, stopping where those medications are stopping the hormones

576
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: from functioning that they normally do. And that's the whole purpose,

577
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: especially when you have an estrogen or progesterone positive breast cancer.

578
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: So you can either be paused or you can actually

579
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: fully go into the menopause. And everybody is a little

580
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: bit different how they respond to those therapies and medications.

581
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: And don't they they're like medication that can I was

582
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: gonna say, don't they have like a medication that can

583
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: like basically if you're going through chemo, that can like

584
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: guard your eggs correct.

585
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: So they do put you on medications that can help,

586
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: like I said, make that pause happen so that it

587
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: can help protect right, But we don't know until you

588
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: come off with all the medications whether or not what

589
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: functionality you're gonna have. And that's typically not something that

590
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: they're just gonna do for you. You gotta pay for that,

591
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: right like, because well, no, that that a lot of

592
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: times is a part of your therapy, and they should

593
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: be having the conversation with women in regards to how

594
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: do I protect my ovaries, how do I continue to

595
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: maintain my fertility? And also and then I'm thinking you're

596
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: talking about potentially egg harvesting, so when I harvest my

597
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: eggs so that I can save them so that I

598
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: can use them for later, either in my uterus or

599
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: womb or somebody else's. And that brings me to my

600
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: next question. Does stress play a part in how quickly

601
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: your body goes into the change? Absolutely?

602
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think that especially for Black women, we are

603
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: known to go through menopause perimenopause about eight months to

604
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: a year earlier than women women are kind of part right,

605
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: non women of color, I guess you could say Caucasian women,

606
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: whatever you want.

607
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: To say, bege. So, yeah, and I do believe that

608
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: that is associated with the amount of stress and weight

609
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: that we carry from racism, structural racism, discrimination, prejudice, and

610
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: then just having the weight of the world on our shoulders,

611
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, the financial responsibilities, the mental and emotional responsibilities

612
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: that we carry more than most people do. Stop stressing.

613
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna get old fast, and that's another reason why.

614
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: You know though, that's the only thing, right, get older faster.

615
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: But you will look it, I know, right, And a

616
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: lot of people are like, oh, I don't look my age,

617
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's true. Many times we don't look our

618
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: age because I think that genetically, genetically, we have developed

619
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: protective mechanism so that we don't age in the same

620
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 1: way that other people age. But I will tell you

621
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: if you are smoking, and if you are you know, significantly,

622
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: if you're OBEs, significantly overweight, if you are not managing

623
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: your cardiovascular health diabetes, it doesn't matter. You know, if

624
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: you're not doing those things, you're gonna look older than

625
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: you should. Amen to that. That's what I was going

626
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: to ask, like, when you how does fitness like, how

627
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: should we change our fitness when we're going to pair

628
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: mini pause, because I assume our metabolisms and things like

629
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: that are affected by this as well. So you're absolutely

630
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: so it's slow. Your menabolisms are slowing down. And so

631
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: what I tell people is encourage young people already to

632
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: exercise whatever that is if it's dancing, dancing, zooma and

633
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: whatever it is, pilates, running, hiking, biking, getting out there

634
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: and walking. Make sure you're doing that so young, if

635
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: you're young, put your kids in some type of sports

636
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: and make them do it. As you mature, continue doing that.

637
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: Find your community so that you can enjoy exercise. We

638
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: should be enjoying. We should be exercising five or six

639
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: times a week, if not seven, right, even if the

640
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: seventh day is going for a walk, but we should

641
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: be exercise and enjoying that. So and then as you are,

642
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: as you are aging, right, you should be increasing your

643
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: strength exercises. So that is why you know, even doing

644
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: resistance bans is so important. So adding weights you don't

645
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: have to add, you know, significantly heavy weights. You don't

646
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: have to lift one hundred, two hundred pounds. You don't

647
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: have to do that. You can lift twenty thirty pounds.

648
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: You can lift your own body weight. I mean, you

649
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: know you weigh one hundred and twenty one hundred and

650
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: sixty pounds or more.

651
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: N I never been able to lift my body weight

652
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: since I was an elementary. I can't never do a

653
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: pull up.

654
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so be on there. But you know, we start

655
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: with we start with doing pushups. So in the morning,

656
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: when I wake up, I do my body scan and

657
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: this is part of my Vivi Life program that I do.

658
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: But I wake up, I do my body scan and

659
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: I ask myself, you know, what's going on in my

660
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: body from the top of my head down to the

661
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: sole of my feet, and how do I focus my

662
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: energy so I can heal that space. Then I get

663
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: down on the floor, I do my Calisenics and that's

664
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: push ups, that's crunches, that stretches, and I know it

665
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: sounds funny, right, So I don't know. My mom watched jacqu.

666
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: Lolaine, and you know I did a tibo when I

667
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: was in my twenties and thirties. Whatever you need to

668
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 2: do to keep moving and to keep that body, you know, strong,

669
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: those are the things that we need to do.

670
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: I remember one time I went to this female doctor

671
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: and I was putting on weight and I was like,

672
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: but I just don't have time. My life is so busy.

673
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: I just travel and I work in two different cities

674
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: and I just don't have time. And she was like,

675
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm a mother of five, I'm a wife, I have

676
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: this practice and I still find time every morning to

677
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: get up and go to the gym. So what were

678
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: you saying? And then it becomes my hair and all

679
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: that other stuff. No, I schedule it. So one of

680
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: the things my family knows is the first hour of

681
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: the day is mine. That's where I meditate, journal and

682
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: get my exercise in, and then for the rest of

683
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: the day, I'm optimizing my nutrition, my hormones in my

684
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: sleep and I get my sleep. And so you're talking

685
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: to an obgyn who used to, you know, do thirty

686
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: six hourships and still got her work out in because

687
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: it just makes you feel better mentally and emotionally, and

688
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: of course it's going to help the physical aspects your

689
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: heart health, prevent diabetes, prevent significant weight gain, all of that. Yeah.

690
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: The crazy thing is I have a consultation today at

691
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: a weightlifting gym. All right, Yeah, because I go to

692
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: the gym, but I don't be knowing what I'm doing

693
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: half the time, right, And I want to like, I

694
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: just don't want shit to.

695
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: Move no more.

696
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: I want the body to stay kind of like the

697
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: same size, but I don't want no more jiggle.

698
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand, and that can happen. And so you're

699
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: being intentional about what you do and how you do it.

700
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: Because you don't have to be in the gym for

701
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: twenty two hours. You don't have to do that.

702
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 2: It's a discipline inconsistency for me, man, I just got

703
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: to get some discipline in my life.

704
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: Yep, listen, I will. I did seventy five hard earlier

705
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: this year, and I was going to the gym twice

706
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: a day for seventy five days straight. And then right

707
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: after that, I did seventy five fat like right behind it,

708
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: run again seventy five You better cut it out. I

709
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: struggle with the consistencies, like just staying with it. That's

710
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: my hardest part. I can do. I do the workouts,

711
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: I know the workouts, I know the routines, I know

712
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: how to live ways, but just going for life a

713
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: lifestyle change is what I struggle with. That is that

714
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: my kryptonite. So I don't I tell me understand. And

715
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: that's one thing that we have just incorporated in my life,

716
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, Like I said, it's on my calendar, and

717
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: don't mess with me. And even if I can't get

718
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: like a hard workout in, I'm going to do something,

719
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: even you know, walking something to get my mind going

720
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: like right now, I don't feel like going to the gym,

721
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: but I'm out there every morning and I'm walking two

722
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: and a half miles and I'm going uphills and I'm

723
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: using the resistance bands, doing the push ups in the setups.

724
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: Excuse me, m all, I'm gonna go in a little while,

725
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: I think today.

726
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: And you gotta be in a community, right, So if

727
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: you're in a community of people that this is what

728
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: they do.

729
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: So that's what my Viva lifeers and I do. Like

730
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: we encourage each other to do all of these things.

731
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: And it's not really like me saying you need to go,

732
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: it's them seeing me go. Like I'm out there and

733
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, what y'all doing? You know? And the

734
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: next thing I know, everybody else is out doing something too. Right,

735
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: that's you don't encourage me to get my ass up

736
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: to They an't go because I wasn't gonna go because

737
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go just because you said that. And

738
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, I never like, I never

739
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: heard of Peri menopause. I heard of menopause growing up,

740
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: but Perry menopause was never a thing.

741
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: Is that the I just started hearing about it the

742
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: last Is it a new convent?

743
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: No, not at all. I mean, you know, I will

744
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: tell you when I first started hearing about it was

745
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: about twenty years ago when Oprah was on with doctor

746
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: Hill I think her name was hilde Brand or Hilda

747
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: greath but she they talked about What Women Need to

748
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: Know about Sex was the book, and so it was

749
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: a whole I mean, Oprah did a whole thing on menopause,

750
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: just like she's doing now in perimenopause. But I will

751
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: tell you when I even when I was going through training.

752
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: You know, you grow up and they tell you're going

753
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: to have your period and they tell you don't get pregnant, right,

754
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: but they don't tell you anything between that or about that.

755
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: When I was going through my OBGUI N training, we

756
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: got the graphs that said this is what happens with estrogen, progesterone, testosterone.

757
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: I will be honest with you, it's not until you

758
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: hit the different stages that you're like, oh, this is

759
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: what they were talking about. So the reason why you

760
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: feel like it hasn't been talked about is number one,

761
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: they stopped talking about it, especially after that whole Women's

762
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: Health Initiative, because they didn't want people to be on

763
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: horrimal replacement. Right. The other thing is it's coming up.

764
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: You're going into the time of your life where other

765
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: people are going into the time of their life where

766
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: they're starting to feel these things, so you're more interested

767
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: in it.

768
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: Like, we don't talk about how to get pregnant until

769
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: you're trying to get pregnant, right, So same thing, You're

770
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: not going to.

771
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: Talk about perimenopause until you're going through the experience.

772
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 2: So like, what are some of the symptoms that women

773
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: made mistake for something else but it's perimenopause.

774
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so these are important things. So I'm gonna start

775
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: with the heart, right. So a lot of people actually

776
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: end up getting heart palpitations, anxiety, and sometimes some shortness

777
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: of breast, chest pain. But we also have to make

778
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: sure that we're ruling out what could kill you, right,

779
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: So we got to make sure that it's not a

780
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: heart attack. We got to make sure that is not

781
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: some other kind of arrhythm or changes in your heart rate.

782
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: But those are some of the things a lot of

783
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: people get palpitations anxiety associated with perimenopause menopause. The other

784
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: thing is people will notice that their weight changes, So

785
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: they start getting what we call the mino belly or

786
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: that mid that midriff weight game, that the what do

787
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: they call it, the upha, the punfa, whatever it's called.

788
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, so the muffin tops. So you

789
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: start getting that and people are like, wait a second,

790
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: what's going on with that? And so we have to

791
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: make sure are you having a gastrulinetestinal problem that's going

792
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: along with that? Is this friboids that's potentially going on?

793
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: So going back to the head to toe exam is

794
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: very important. And what I've noticed in mere cards, we've

795
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: gotten away from examining people so that we can make

796
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: a differential diagnosis means what could this be and what

797
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: more likely is this? People also start having joint pains

798
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: and so they're like, uncle Arthur is here right, So

799
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: they think they have our ritis, but it's actually inflammation

800
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: because the estrogen actually moisturizes our joints, helps moisturize that.

801
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: So you know, those are some of the symptoms besides

802
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: the hot slashes, vaginal dryness, mood swings. Mood swings are huge.

803
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: But we have to figure out is this depression, you know,

804
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: is it truly depression? Do you have a bipolar exacerbation

805
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: exacerbation or is this associated with perimenopause or menopause? So

806
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: those are so so okay.

807
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 2: So people going through perimenopause get like bipolar symptoms in hand.

808
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if you if you ask, like my

809
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: best friend call and she was like, I don't know

810
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: what's going on with my my mom, and a lot

811
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: of men I'll tell you this too. A lot of

812
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: men will tell you this too. They're like, man, I

813
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on over but she seemed like

814
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: and then the other thing is as new as you mature,

815
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: you can also you know ad ad D. People can

816
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: get the you know, uh focused deficits. And you hear

817
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: me saying, because you get brain fog and you can't

818
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: figure out what word you're supposed to say. So then

819
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: some people are thinking they're going through Alzheimu's or yeah.

820
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'd be feeling like that sometimes.

821
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: But like I said, but when we before we started recording,

822
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: like I had, I mentioned this last week too, I

823
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: had a physical done and I'm like super iron deficient.

824
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: But that can also cause like the brain fog. That's hardness.

825
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: So I never once thought I was going through the

826
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: change though, But I knew something was going on.

827
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: But remember, you are going through change constantly. Our bodies

828
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: are constantly changing, even on a blood change. Yeah, but

829
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: you are if I mean, if you're if you're in

830
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: your forties, you are going through the change. You just

831
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: haven't gotten to the big part of the change. You're

832
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: going through these small, minute, po portions of the change.

833
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're going through the change.

834
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: So okay, can you can you like, as long as

835
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 2: you have your period, that means you're not in perimenopause

836
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: and you're not in menopause.

837
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: So as long as you have your period, so let

838
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: me put it this way, as long as you're continuing

839
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: to consistently have your period, then you are not in menopause,

840
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: but you can still be PERIMENOPAUSM. So the time prior

841
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: to you stopping your period for that twelve months is

842
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: called perimenopause. Now, one thing I want to say, because

843
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: some people will stop their periods for the twelve months

844
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: and then have a period that needs to be investigated

845
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: for endometrial cancer. Mm. Yeah, we have to investigate that.

846
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: So if you stop having your period going on, Yeah,

847
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: if you stop your period for twelve months and all

848
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden you start having you know, bleeding, spotting

849
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Then that needs to be evaluated

850
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: because it could be a form of cancer. It could

851
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: be and it could be you know that depending on

852
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: where you are, you can have significant stress that trigger something.

853
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: You have this quartisole response you're you know, and then

854
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: you unfortunately start having bleeding, especially in women in fibroids.

855
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: I've seen that happen to them where they have the fibroids,

856
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: and even though in menopause they should be shrinking, but

857
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: you're having some significant stressors going on and for some

858
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: reason you've triggered your hormonal milieu and it actually calls

859
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 1: you to bleed. But even in that instance, I still

860
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: make sure I'm ruling out intimutual cancer do women, because

861
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: I feel like black women get fibroids more than our

862
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 1: you know, counterparts. And does that affect like how quick

863
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: you go into perry in menopause when you have fibroids,

864
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 1: So fibroids doesn't affect that. However, your hormonal changes will

865
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: affect the fibroids. So that's why you see women having

866
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, growth of the fibroids. That's why you also

867
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: see them having these heavy, unbearable periods associated with fibroids.

868
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: So that is all the fibroids are hormonally impacted. So

869
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: that's why you see some of the changes that are

870
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: going on. I wouldn't say that having fibroids puts you

871
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: into perimenopause faster. Remember that is very much based on

872
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 1: your brain hormones and your ovaries and that communication between both.

873
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: Why do you think that black women get fibroids more

874
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: than other people? Yeah? So, you know what, I'll be

875
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: honest with you. Part of that is the stressors that

876
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: we are taking on because you know, estrogen doesn't just

877
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: live in our ovaries, it lives in the adipost tissue

878
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: as well. Okay, Cortisol responses from stressors, what we're eating,

879
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: what our environments are, and then what our genetic history is.

880
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: Oh and for example, my family, they all have many

881
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: people in my family have had fibroids. I've never had fibroids.

882
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: I actually get my ultrasound done to make sure that

883
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: they check for fibroids. But I've also been on progesterone

884
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: for almost my entire life through my IUD. I also

885
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: like I said, practice the Viva Life five for my

886
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: entire almost my entire life, even before I named what

887
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: it was. That's what I do, and so minimize that stress,

888
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: making sure environmentally that I am, you know, not in

889
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: environments that could probably trigger the hormonal responses or growth

890
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: as well as what I'm eating. So food is your

891
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: medicine as well. Do you use sizing salt? Do you

892
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: use season of salt? Because I just cavery lawry is

893
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: what's giving us fibroids, y'all stop you. So do I

894
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: use season in salt sparingly? I would say yes, I

895
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: do loud. You know I grew up I'm flowers too,

896
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: but I use it very sparingly. So if you come

897
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: eat it at my house, you may feel like the

898
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: food might be a little bit more bland than you

899
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: used to. But that being said, you know, I don't

900
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: have hypertension, I don't have diabetes, I'm not overweight, and

901
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm doing this intentionally. So it's really important to when

902
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: you're seasoning your food to make sure that we're minimizing

903
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: the sovium that's attached to it. I swear y'all over

904
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: the years, my mama's food is still good but it

905
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: tastes more like white people food because she don't use

906
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: salt like that no more. She don't well fry no more,

907
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: she don't. Everything is changing. But I mean, you know,

908
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm adopting that a little bit. Okay, yeah, So, I

909
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: mean just taking out fried foods right will make such

910
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: a big difference. And what I tell people is if

911
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: you do it more than ninety percent of the time.

912
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: My colleague says eighty percent of the time. But if

913
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: you eat, you know, on that clean eating more than

914
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the time or even eighty five percent

915
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: of the time, you're going to be so much better

916
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: off than most people in America. Agent five. Yeah, what

917
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: is Viva life five? You've meant life now, So v

918
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: class stamps for live. Viva means live life. And what

919
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: we're trying to do is help people live their healthiest

920
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: and wealthiest life spiritually. Spiritually exactlycates from women getting money. Okay,

921
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: oh yeah, say we leave no bags on the table, okay,

922
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: So spiritually, physically, financially, mentally, and emotionally, and essentially what

923
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: this entails is you get myself and my fellow consultants

924
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: to help you through webinars podcasts, affirmation rooms. So that's

925
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: the mindfulness pa, journaling, meditating and incorporating that exercise, hormone nutrition,

926
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: and making sure that you sleep. So it's a community

927
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: that we've created in order for you to do five

928
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: things pretty much every day and eat those five foods fruits, vegetables, nuts, grains, things,

929
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: drinking our water. And if you eat meat, make sure

930
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: it's clean and high quality. Do you eat meat? I

931
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: do eat meat. I make sure I try to make

932
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: sure it's clean, the high quality. Now that might be

933
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: the ten percent that I'm not doing correct all the time,

934
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, I try to make sure that we're eating

935
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: high quality or minimizing it. You know what I'm saying.

936
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't eat meat every single day. Do you eat

937
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: pork at all? I do. I went through the whole

938
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: phase of not eating pork at all, and I did.

939
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: I went through the whole you know, like it was.

940
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: It was funny, it was. I went to I went

941
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: to college, right, I went to Xavier University in New Orleans, Bblisiana.

942
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: I went to HBCU and I was like, I'm not

943
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna eat meat.

944
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: And I got there and I had no money. So

945
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: you had to eat a cafeteria and guess what they

946
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: put out every Friday. Pork chop bacon.

947
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: You're like, all you can eat bacon. I was like, yeah,

948
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: some of that. Listen. Every time I meet someone over

949
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: one hundred, I asked them do they eat port? And

950
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: they say yes. I ain't meant a person yet over

951
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: one hundred that said they don't eat no port.

952
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: It's not about the pork though, Like the food just

953
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: isn't what it used to be when they were our age, right.

954
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: So that's just like I don't eat a lot of things.

955
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not the same.

956
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: I don't eat a lot of pork. If I do

957
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: eat any I eat fish, I eat beef, high quality beef.

958
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: And then if I eat pork, if I be a

959
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: pork chop. Right, So, but it's not fried and all

960
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: that other stuff. But I have everything in moderation and

961
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: choose where you're gonna be. Another big thing is alcohol.

962
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: So minimizing your alcohol is very important through perimenopause and menopause.

963
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: You know, people say one or two drinks a day,

964
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: and I'm like that seems like a lot, But I

965
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: would say minimize it to like one or two drinks

966
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: a week would be better. And if you're noticing that

967
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: you're needing to drink every single day, then we'll probably

968
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: need to talk about whether or not there's some alcoholism

969
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: tendencies that are going on in your life. But that

970
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: will alcohol will exacerbate all the symptoms for a lot

971
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: of people. As I get older, I find that I

972
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: used to have fun, a lot of fun with alcohol,

973
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: but as I get older, I just feel like it

974
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: makes me sick. I don't feel good anymore when I

975
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: drink it. I don't. It takes me like three days

976
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: to get better after just having two or three drinks.

977
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 1: So does that have something to do with our bodies

978
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: changing too, like I can't liquor the same? Yep, absolutely absolutely.

979
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: And then the thing is, you know, a little bit

980
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: of red wine is okay, right, not the whole bottle

981
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: and not the glass that fills up with the whole bottle.

982
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 2: Yea, the one pass one glass.

983
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: Is a whole bottle. No, we're not doing that, but

984
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of red wine. And you know, I

985
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: like whiskey, so I might have Sir Davis a couple

986
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: of times in the month, and you know that's what

987
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: I do. I understand what my ninety percent is and

988
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: understanding that. I also understand little things in my body

989
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: that tells me, you know what you're getting out of

990
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: You're getting out of parameters. So if my if my legs,

991
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: my thighs start like touching each other a little bit,

992
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm out of parameters, so i run out live.

993
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: My guys have never not touched like I've touched it.

994
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: I might just see you know well you and you

995
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: just got to know. I can tell when I gain

996
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: five PM, like I know when i'm I know my

997
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,479
Speaker 1: exact weight because I understand my body and like you said,

998
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: you travel a lot, so we retain a lot of

999
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: water and there's some retention there, right, so it takes

1000
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: a good forty five days to get that water just

1001
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: to get that water weight off, and you have to

1002
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: be very intentional about that, so you know, hydrating sometimes

1003
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: a little apple sided vinegar. Sometimes I'll do a little

1004
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: bit of castoil, olive oil. You know, just to make

1005
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: sure that I'm keeping my gud clean healthy is really important,

1006
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: So I do, heir, and I what made me bring

1007
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: this conversation too, like want to have this conversation is

1008
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: so my clients are aging with me, and a lot

1009
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: of them are in their late thirties, early forties to fifties.

1010
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: I don't have that many twenty somethings anymore. I have some,

1011
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: but not that many. And I kept hearing the conversation

1012
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: about perimenopause perimenopause, and I had one of my clients

1013
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: particularly say that she was concerned because her vagina is

1014
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: dry now. She's like, I don't know, Like I used

1015
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: to be pouring a glass of water out of me,

1016
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: and now it's like a Sahara desert, like it's tumbleweed's

1017
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: rolling by when I pulled my kuchie out. Is there

1018
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: something that people could write? Is it wild wild watts?

1019
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: Is there something because women can do or eat? She's like,

1020
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm drinking water, I drink hell of water. I'm eating fruit.

1021
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: Is there something that we could do or something that

1022
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: women can take to make sure that their vagina they

1023
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: keep it their wetness as long as possible when they're

1024
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: going through these changes. Yeah, so I will say always

1025
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: green leafy vegetables are very important, right, So making sure

1026
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: that you're keeping your vitamin D, your iron levels up

1027
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: as well as they're going to have what we call

1028
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 1: adaptogens and nutrients that are going to help you keep

1029
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 1: that collagen sometimes some vital estrogens and things like that.

1030
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: But then also she can utilize basic things some olive oil,

1031
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of olive oil, daba olive oil or

1032
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: coconut oil in the area and the vaginal area could

1033
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: be very helpful. There's also products that kind of like

1034
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: there's a product call raplens, but essentially that is a

1035
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: lubricant she can use. But I'll be honest with you,

1036
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: estrogen based products are like the best thing that you

1037
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: can use. If you're okay with using estrogen, place it

1038
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: in your vagina, small amount in your vagina a couple

1039
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: times a week, and it will help you significantly. Important

1040
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: thing though, if you're finding that you're using estrogen, especially

1041
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: you're taking it by mouth or you have it on

1042
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 1: a patch, or you're even using it in your vagina

1043
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: like every single day, then we need to talk about

1044
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: if you still have a uterus using the progesterone as well,

1045
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: because we want to protect against that individual cancer that

1046
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: we talked about. Mm. Yeah, I started taking Maca. You

1047
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: take maca? Yes? Good? Yeah? Oh absolutely helps with the libido. Yes, ma'am. Yes,

1048
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: Ostragonda maca what people, let's.

1049
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: Go, it's like a like a Peruvian like root. Is

1050
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: a plant like ginger like root. Yeah, but it comes

1051
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: and it tast really good too. It tastes like a

1052
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: like a like a nut. So if you put it

1053
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: like in a in a smoothie or something like that,

1054
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: it has like a peanut buttery flavor. It's real good.

1055
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then so I remember when I was having,

1056
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: you know, being at work and everything all the time,

1057
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: when I was breastfeeding my child. Finnagreek was another one.

1058
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 1: And finnagreek is another plant based supplement that you can

1059
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: use to help you moisturize, right, and it helps you

1060
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: produce milk, so that that's another type of thing that

1061
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: milk fits sole finigreed though, So though, there's if you

1062
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: work with an integrated specialist or a natural path they'll

1063
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: be able to give you more options in regards to

1064
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: more plant based therapies rather than just you know, estrogen

1065
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: is the only thing you can use.

1066
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: In your organization. Is that what you push towards more

1067
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: the holistic you know, because in the medical industry they

1068
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: want to push medicine. It's pharmacia Okay, that's the real,

1069
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: real witchcraft as far as I'm concerned. Right, So they

1070
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: push more you know, pharmaceutical medication as opposed to the organic.

1071
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: There's really not a lot of doctors out there that

1072
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: you know. I was just at the doctor recently and

1073
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: I told her I do black seed oil for my

1074
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 2: blood pressure, and you know, she immediately went into, well,

1075
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: you know, the studies and all this other you know,

1076
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: trying to deter you from doing more alternatives. So that

1077
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: is that what you lean more towards as opposed to

1078
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: like traditional medicine.

1079
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: Right, So I'm about all of it, right. I try

1080
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: to make sure that people know their options, whether they

1081
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: are non pharmaceutical or pharmaceutical. But I also try to

1082
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: make sure that people understand the risk benefits of each

1083
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,959
Speaker 1: because if we're talking about it, you know, many things

1084
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: are plant based, even if they are FDA approved or

1085
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: through the pharmacy, many hands are plant based. If you're

1086
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: compounding something then cassable. At a lot of times you're

1087
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: using some type of plant plant based. So I think

1088
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: it's really important, and I'll be honest with you. In

1089
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: traditional medicine, they don't teach this portion of supplements plant

1090
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: based medications or therapies, So which had come in that

1091
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: y'all the real year. So that's why it's important. Like

1092
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: I was saying, you know, look behind the name and say,

1093
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: are you a functional medicine physician? Have you gotten your

1094
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: naturopathic training, whether it's a certification or your actual natural

1095
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: pactic doctor? And how do you put both of those

1096
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: things together? What are my alternatives besides using what I

1097
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: can get from former pharmacy. So give me non pharmacy

1098
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: and pharmacy associated therapies that can be useful for me.

1099
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: I believe in acupuncture, chiropractic work, like I've done all

1100
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: these things, so I absolutely know that I don't have

1101
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: to be in pain. Excuse me, I don't have to

1102
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: take pain medications to resolve my pain. There's other options

1103
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: for it as well. The pain, not my pain, the.

1104
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 2: Pain, So let's not take that in our Let's not

1105
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 2: take that in our bodies, right right.

1106
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: So I feel like I've always had a healthy sexual appetite,

1107
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: but it feels like since I turned forty, Like, man,

1108
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, who's calling my phone? Who's calling my phone?

1109
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: Like I wake it up?

1110
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm like horny, Like all the time is that like

1111
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: something that happens before Parry. Is that like normal or

1112
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: is it? It is? So? I remember I told you

1113
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: in perimenopause, your hormones are doing this right, so you're

1114
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: going through this wax and way, so you're really feeling

1115
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: so And also I told you perimenopause and many is

1116
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: just like puberty, and what happened in puberty You found yourself.

1117
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: You found all of that hotness. So that's one of

1118
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: the things that you can actually experience. And that's why

1119
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful taking certain things like maca. Right,

1120
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: you take maca, you go, you might elevate or take

1121
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: it like it helps men's libido. Jim, Yeah, absolutely, So

1122
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm going through I shouldn't take no moca right now

1123
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: because I might just have to be chandelier if I

1124
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: take some of that shit. I feel like, yeah, you

1125
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: have to be careful. You have to be careful about it.

1126
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: And so that's why having that personal line conversation and say, Okay,

1127
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: what symptoms are you experiencing and what do what do

1128
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: you want to temper or what do you want to improve?

1129
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing about you know, anything that

1130
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: you decide to take you should be taking it because

1131
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: it's supplementing what is going on in your body. So,

1132
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: like you said, you might not need maca root, but

1133
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: you might need something to help you with stress or

1134
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 1: calm me down. So you know that's something, and that's

1135
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: a different opportunity for you. I will say, somebody asked me,

1136
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: do I have to take hormone replacement therapy estrogen replacement

1137
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: therapy progesterone if you still be uterus? And I will

1138
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: say that the number one killer of women, especially black

1139
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: women's cardiovascular disease point blank, hypertension, stroke, arrhythmius. Right, And

1140
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: so what has been found is that the estrogen the

1141
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: replacement is reducing the cardiovascular disease. Now, you got to

1142
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: do all the other things too. So if you so

1143
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: choose not to take the replacement, then you got you

1144
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: really got to do all the other things when we

1145
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: talk about the stress reduction, the exercise, the nutrition, and

1146
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: the sleeps, and we really need to get our sleep, ladies.

1147
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean, there is nothing wrong with sleeping.

1148
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: I love down. Okay, I keep staying making T shirts

1149
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: that say that I love to Later, I get my sleep.

1150
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's always RESTful, though, yes, I

1151
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 2: do have hot flashes at night. Sometimes I'd be hot

1152
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 2: as hell at night.

1153
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so those are the hormonal change wets talking about.

1154
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 1: But back to your question about the sex. If you're

1155
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: feeling hot and horny, I think it's okay. I mean,

1156
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: I will say when I was in my early forty

1157
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: that was the best time of my life. Baby. I

1158
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: was like this, I've been I've been missing this. I

1159
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: didn't you know I was. I was away from my husband,

1160
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: I was deployed when I was pregnant with my child,

1161
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: so I didn't get like that, like pregnancy sex that

1162
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about. I didn't get all of that.

1163
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: But Babe, when I turned forty, it was on the topic.

1164
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It feels like I'm crazy right now. It's great,

1165
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: it's wonderful. And bursic got me going so crazy right now.

1166
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 2: Yes, that I definitely be horny. Man, I don't want

1167
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 2: it to stop, though.

1168
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: I don't, so that's why we have no time.

1169
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: I don't wanted to stop.

1170
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: Not okay, That's why we're having this conversation so that

1171
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: we can prevent it from stopping.

1172
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 2: My doctor asked me the other day if I still

1173
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: get a period, I'm like, yes, the fuck I dude,

1174
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm happy about it. I need to see my shit

1175
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: every month.

1176
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: And it's really important to track yourself, right. People used

1177
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: to track their periods so they can see whether or

1178
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: not they could get pregnant. Are they pregnant, that whole thing.

1179
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: But it's still important to track your cycle as you're

1180
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: going through this. And it's not just tracking the period,

1181
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: is tracking the symptoms associated with the cycles. So remember

1182
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: your cycle is every twenty one to thirty days. That's

1183
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: a cycle. The period is just the mysteration. That's just

1184
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: a certain part. But you know you're going to feel

1185
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: you know, more loving and accepting at some part in

1186
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: your cycle, and other times you'd be like, get off

1187
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: of me, you know, I don't want to be bothered.

1188
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: So it's really important to understand that and see how

1189
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: many times you are feeling that through the day, because

1190
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: then you can start tracking your perimenopausal symptoms into menopause.

1191
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: What conversation should mothers and daughters be having about menopause

1192
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: that most of us aren't all of this because you

1193
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: know your children are going to experience your menopause, probably

1194
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: they're going to notice something that's changing faster than you

1195
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: notice the change in yourself. So having these conversations with

1196
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: your boys and girls or however they identify, and making

1197
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: sure that you're having these conversations to say, you know,

1198
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: this is the menstrual cycle, this is menc's, this is

1199
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: what happens when you're in your twenties to thirties. Is

1200
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: what happens in your thirties and forties, forties and fifties beyond.

1201
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: But in order to have those conversations, we need to

1202
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: be educated about those conversations, which is why I love

1203
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: coming on podcasts. This is why I love having corporate sessions.

1204
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: So we provide six corporate sessions to corporations organizations to

1205
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: improve women health in their organization, and then we do

1206
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: the individual discussions as well.

1207
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: So you're so ko koe, right, consult it's not just

1208
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: for corporations. Individuals can also.

1209
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: Right, So the corporations. So that's why we created Viva

1210
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: Life SPF ME, which is the program that's more like

1211
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: having the group conversation individually based, and that's where you'll

1212
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: get the podcast, the webinars and the coaching sessions, right.

1213
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: But the corporate sessions are when we go in we

1214
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: try to improve health inequities for different healthcare plans as

1215
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: well as if we're like if I'm at Boeing or

1216
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: something or another corporation, then we're working with the women

1217
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: on the top five diseases that are happening. We're educating

1218
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: them so that they have a health plan. Well, what

1219
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: do I talk to my physician or practitioner about so

1220
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: that I can actually get the benefit out of this

1221
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: healthcare plan instead of just like paying this, you know,

1222
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 1: one hundred to one thousand dollars two thousand dollars a month.

1223
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah and yees. Right now is like open enrollment, and

1224
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 2: I cannot stand it. I don't know what the hell

1225
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 2: is going on half the time.

1226
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to figure it out. It's hard

1227
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: to figure it out to do those comparisons. But you

1228
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: know what go on chat GPT put in your information

1229
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: and say what health care plan is best for me? Yeah?

1230
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: And you know this is so off topic.

1231
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 2: I don't be fucking with CHATGBT like that because I

1232
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: feel like it starts like then tracking you, because it's

1233
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: some stuff in there that I'm like, why are you

1234
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: suggesting this to me? This has nothing to do with

1235
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: what I just asked you about. So they have all

1236
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: your conversations and they know you now they.

1237
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: Do, so there's a way for you to turn off.

1238
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: There's a way to turn off the learning piece that

1239
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: they can't get those conversations out into like everybody's else's

1240
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: learning piece. Right. But there's a great person her name

1241
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: is Alicia Little. She teaches AI and she will give

1242
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: you all the tips, tricks and the tools for it.

1243
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be afraid of it. I mean, you know,

1244
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm prior military, right, I retired from the military, babe

1245
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: chat GBT and got nothing on what the henilitary has

1246
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: already been doing already know. So it's it's just one

1247
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: of those things. It has been out for thirty years. Yeah,

1248
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: So it's just one of those things like either you

1249
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: get ahead of it or it gets ahead of you.

1250
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: Either you are the food or you become the farmer.

1251
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: So just decide where you want to be with.

1252
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 2: That, I understand. Yep.

1253
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: All right, is there anything that you want to tell

1254
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: our listeners that they need to know about Perry? That

1255
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: there is imperative that they understand about Perry mendoopause and

1256
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: menopause before you go. Absolutely, so, Perry menopause. Menopause, it's

1257
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: going to happen, so don't be afraid of it happening.

1258
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: Be educated, understand it. Track your cycles, track your mencies,

1259
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: track your symptoms. Talk to your family. We should know

1260
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: our family histories and if you're adopted, you know, try

1261
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: to figure out genetically what's going on. But have these conversations.

1262
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: Do not be afraid of the change, and reach out

1263
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: to your subject matter experts that you know, that's what

1264
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: we do. We trained in this, and those subject matter

1265
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: experts don't have to be you know, older. Everybody you

1266
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: know older doesn't know. Everybody that says O, B G,

1267
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: I N actually doesn't know. But make sure you find

1268
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: out those resources that you can really get that that

1269
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: conversation that is specific towards you. Do not be afraid

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Speaker 1: of this. It can be the best time of your

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Speaker 1: life as well and period.

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Speaker 2: Basically, reach out to Koe Medical Consulting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, so yeah doctor Kelly om D D

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Speaker 1: r K E L L y O m D dot com.

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Speaker 1: If you want to join Viva Life or get some

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Speaker 1: consulting services. I'm definitely going to reach out. I want

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Speaker 1: to do and I need to change how I'm living

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Speaker 1: because I love it. I eat bacon, A piece of bacon.

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Speaker 1: Hate to see me coming. I threw it. Now, well,

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Speaker 1: I definitely need to make some lifestyle changes, all right,

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Speaker 1: So we have a segment called the Dumb Bitch Story.

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Speaker 1: I told you a little bit about it. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a break, and when we come back, I

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Speaker 1: want you to share a story with us. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: we are back, and doctor Kelly has her story. Go ahead, alrighty,

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Speaker 1: So when you first told me this, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't never been a right, right no virgo.

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Speaker 1: I almost got to ask that, what's your son? I'm

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Speaker 1: a virgo born on set. Some reports the damn story

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Speaker 1: tell a lie? Are you pimp in your whole life?

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Speaker 1: Virgoals are? I was like, yeah, never got played a virgo.

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Speaker 2: They somebody kind of twisted to its always in their favor.

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Speaker 1: Even though I was on the phone, you was crying

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Speaker 1: about it. But okay, two years lady, like didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: You got it? Go ahead, Brighton and I at that

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Speaker 2: a September the fourth Urgo as well.

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Speaker 1: So that's a whole other level. But my story is

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Speaker 1: I remember when I was in college, right and I

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Speaker 1: didn't have a car, I didn't have no money, whatever

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Speaker 1: the case may be. And this guy said, you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to take you out. But I wasn't the

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Speaker 1: type of person that was giving out nothing. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: you wasn't. You weren't getting anything if you weren't in

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Speaker 1: a long term relationship with me and he we had

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Speaker 1: set up to have go on a date and I'm excited,

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Speaker 1: I'm dressed, ready, the whole thing. I'm looking out the window,

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Speaker 1: you know, wait for him to call to say he

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Speaker 1: was downstairs so I can come out my dorm room.

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Speaker 1: And the call never came, and I was like, what

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Speaker 1: just happened? And so maybe a thirty six hours later,

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Speaker 1: I get a phone call like, oh hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, some things came up. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: I was like, is your mom said right just passed away?

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Speaker 1: Did you get in a car accident? And he was

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Speaker 1: like no, noa NOA. I was like okay, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: so when you want me to pick you up? I

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Speaker 1: was like never click. So that was my that was

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Speaker 1: my story. And I got stood up for a date

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Speaker 1: and that never happened again. I just needed to make

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Speaker 1: sure that you know, he wasn't dead somewhere, his mama

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Speaker 1: didn't die, because if he told me that, I might

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Speaker 1: have you know my name. So you never ever got

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Speaker 1: you never even found out why he missed the date.

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Speaker 1: You ain't care why virgos, These virgos boys.

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Speaker 2: It's not a dumb bitch story.

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Speaker 1: Now. If you would have said, day, yeah, he called again.

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Speaker 2: Three weeks and three more weeks later then and I'm

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Speaker 2: going out with him again, then that's dumb bitch. That

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Speaker 2: was the dumbest I've ever been. But you know I

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Speaker 2: will I will tell you why. No, I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 1: It's because I grew up with you know, my brothers,

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Speaker 1: my god brothers. They I used to listen to my

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Speaker 1: brothers roll game on girls all the time. They got shoes, clothes, cars, whatever,

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Speaker 1: and they would be like, wash this, and they said,

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Speaker 1: don't ever be a chicken head. But who's the chicken head?

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01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: And really, unwitches lily guy had ship. So that's that's

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Speaker 1: what that's what they told me, and so I listened.

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Speaker 1: I listened the whole time. And I work in a

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Speaker 1: male dominated environment right my whole life. I'm a surgeon.

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Speaker 1: I'm a doctor, I'm in then I was in the

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Speaker 1: Navy for twenty six years. I was like, yeah, y'all

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Speaker 1: not getting me.

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Speaker 2: I feel you.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm here for that. But that was like not

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Speaker 1: a dumbest story. I thought about this all night too,

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Speaker 1: that one time. That one nigga like what had this

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Speaker 1: big card? Like when? Because when I told her, She's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've never even played. I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, come up with you.

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Speaker 1: Why do you have another one? And I'm still like

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Speaker 1: a salty about it. But you know, I invested in

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Speaker 1: a friend's company and I looked at all the financials

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Speaker 1: and everything like that. I'm still waiting for my money.

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Speaker 1: So if that's another one, that could be another one

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Speaker 1: that's will be very careful about your investments, and especially

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Speaker 1: if you're trying to help a friend out and see

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Speaker 1: them grow, and you know, in this day and age

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01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: when everybody's like, you know, support black businesses and all

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01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: that other stuff. Naboo, I need to see your financials,

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01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: your tax reports. I need to see like open them

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Speaker 1: books everything, open the books. So that would be another

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Speaker 1: another dB story. A DVS. We are you dating that person? No, No,

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Speaker 1: we just have been friends for like over twenty years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't count.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Anytime money and somebody owe me some money,

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Speaker 2: I might have been a dumb bitch giving you my money.

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Speaker 1: I might have been Yeah, yeah that was the that

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Speaker 1: was the DBS. That that's another big DBS. Now this

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Speaker 1: younger one. That was a young DBS. This older one.

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Speaker 1: I probably should have, you know, thought a little bit

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Speaker 1: harder and listened to you trying to help though, So

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Speaker 1: that don't mean well I don't have them. I'm a

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Speaker 1: Bergo born on September or fourth.

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Speaker 2: I'm urgalarizing, and I definitely not got played a couple

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Speaker 2: of times in life, man, definitely. Okay, I'm about to

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Speaker 2: take the nigga on vacation on Monday, so I rooby

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Speaker 2: have a dumb bitch story for y'all week. We'll see, Hey,

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Speaker 2: nigga be in the bathroom all the time.

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Speaker 1: I think, Kelly, I haven't joined Viva Life five yet.

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Speaker 1: Come on through. We'll help you not be a d

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Speaker 1: d S. All right, all right, one more time. Tell

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Speaker 1: everybody they where they can find you, where they can

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01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: follow you on social media, plug all your things. Oh

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Speaker 1: thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: So I'm doctor Kelly OMZ and you can find me

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Speaker 2: www dot d r K E L L y O

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Speaker 2: m D dot com if you go there, Instagram doctor

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Speaker 2: Kelly Omd as well as Facebook, Instagram, Viva Life SPF me.

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Speaker 2: So just go to the website, click all the little

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Speaker 2: buttons and you'll find me. All right, thank you so much,

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Speaker 2: doctor Kelly.

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Speaker 1: Fun. This is end. I got a lot of information

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Speaker 1: that I needed, so thank you so so very much. Absolutely,

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01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: I have fun too, thanks for bringing out You know,

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Speaker 1: the virgos can be real serious, so thank you for

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01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 1: bringing out the laughter and me as well. Good you

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Speaker 1: get into the bag.

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Speaker 2: That's one thing about it.

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Speaker 1: Virgo boy, they go ahead and get I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: that bag.

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