Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Calls with Dean Blandino, a production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. All right, welcome to Good Calls. I'm
Speaker 1: Dean Blandino. As always, I got my producer Travis Hanson
Speaker 1: with me on audio. What's up on audio? Joe Madrid,
Speaker 1: who is on a word count this episode, and so
Speaker 1: we we're gonna keep him limited. We're gonna keep him limited.
Speaker 1: Great show, great show, see exactly I'm cutting them off already,
Speaker 1: great show today, a lot to talk about NFL, and
Speaker 1: we got a very special guest, Eagles head coach Doug Peterson.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get to that a little bit later,
Speaker 1: but let's start Thursday Night football. And this is becoming
Speaker 1: a little bit of a thing. Okay, this is becoming
Speaker 1: a thing where either a future Hall of Fame quarterback
Speaker 1: or a current Hall of Fame quarterback's watching the game
Speaker 1: decides to go on social media, you know, either his
Speaker 1: his handheld devices phone or his laptop or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: get on Twitter and tweet something not so nice about
Speaker 1: the game. This week. A couple of weeks ago was
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. This week it was our guy Kurt Warner,
Speaker 1: and Travis would a Kurt have to say what Kurt
Speaker 1: had to say. I just want to first off say
Speaker 1: it doesn't have the weight that it does. When Tom
Speaker 1: Brady tweeted because the number of tweets and retweets, I
Speaker 1: won't even get into because the numbers are staggering. But Tom,
Speaker 1: if you want to see more changes, make more tweets. Right,
Speaker 1: And well, here's what Kurt said. He said, these calls
Speaker 1: on quarterbacks are border bordering ridiculous. What in the world
Speaker 1: are we doing to the game? Okay, so what and
Speaker 1: what Kurt was referencing to. There was a big call
Speaker 1: in the game late in the game Seattle was was
Speaker 1: was behind, they were driving and Clay Matthews got call
Speaker 1: from rough in the past or roughing what Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: and uh and you know the bottom line is it's
Speaker 1: it's not roughing and and Wilson was outside the pocket
Speaker 1: throwing on the run. Matthews lead with the shoulder contact
Speaker 1: to the body, not to the headneck area. It wasn't
Speaker 1: late big penalty in the game ends up contributing to
Speaker 1: that drive which Seattle did score and eventually won the game,
Speaker 1: UM a one point game thirty nine. And so obviously
Speaker 1: Kurt is frustrated. As a former quarterback, you'd think he'd
Speaker 1: he'd want to protect the quarterbacks, but this is this
Speaker 1: is a situation where where it was not the correct call.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, and there's there's a difference between
Speaker 1: the quarterback in the pocket and outside the pocket. Inside
Speaker 1: the pocket you get full protection, meaning the strike zone
Speaker 1: is above the knee to below the neck. You have
Speaker 1: you have what's called the two step protection. So in
Speaker 1: the rule book it says the defender has up until
Speaker 1: his second step after the quarterback releases the past to
Speaker 1: make forceable contact. So if you hit him after that
Speaker 1: second step with force, it's a foul. Outside the pocket
Speaker 1: on the run, you lose that two step protection. You
Speaker 1: also lose the protection of the knee area or below
Speaker 1: the theory being quarterback on the run defender potentially in
Speaker 1: chase mode, that defender has to be able to go
Speaker 1: low to make that tackle to prevent the quarterback from
Speaker 1: either throwing the ball or advancing it as a runner.
Speaker 1: So you do lose protection outside the pocket. And and
Speaker 1: one interesting thing what we've seen over the course of
Speaker 1: time and my years at the NFL and Competition Committee
Speaker 1: is the percentage of injuries to quarterbacks that happened outside
Speaker 1: the pocket compared to inside the pocket. It's significant the
Speaker 1: quarterback when you leave the pocket. History tells us that
Speaker 1: the likeliho of getting injured goes up compared to being
Speaker 1: in the pocket. So just something to be to be
Speaker 1: aware of. So that's Thursday night. It continued Sunday as
Speaker 1: we talked the Green Bay Dallas game kay Packers Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Not that anything controversial ever happens in those games, right,
Speaker 1: So we had a call Dallas is behind their driving
Speaker 1: call on the Packers. Rashaan Gary hit to the head
Speaker 1: of the quarterback called rough in the pass or Dac
Speaker 1: was actually starting to to run the football. He ended
Speaker 1: up scrambling on the play. And look, this is there
Speaker 1: was contact to the head neck area, it was to
Speaker 1: the helmet. But the bottom line is if it's not forcible,
Speaker 1: it's not a foul. And this this rule, in this
Speaker 1: interpretation has changed. You go back ten years late two thousands,
Speaker 1: and there was a time in the league where any
Speaker 1: contact to the head of a passer while he was
Speaker 1: in a defensives posture that moved the head was a foul,
Speaker 1: and the Competition committee looked at we looked at a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of plays and said that is not a
Speaker 1: player safety issue. That head slightly moving is not a
Speaker 1: safety issue. So they added the word force forcible. It
Speaker 1: has to be forcible contact, and uh, and I did
Speaker 1: not think that that was forcible in that situation. And
Speaker 1: that's a situation where I would imagine if Green Bay asks,
Speaker 1: and they do have that opportunity to ask during the
Speaker 1: week about plays, I would imagine that the league would
Speaker 1: come back and say that was not rough in the past,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk to coach Peterson about that process.
Speaker 1: And he actually gets into that later on. Then we
Speaker 1: had two plays involving low hits to the past where
Speaker 1: we had in the in the Buffalo Tennessee game, Buffalo
Speaker 1: is Matt mLAN was blocked running back cut Milano. He
Speaker 1: was actually airborne, had no body control, had no control
Speaker 1: over his body. He actually he turned in the air
Speaker 1: and did hit Marcus Mariota in the knee area with force.
Speaker 1: But the rule says, if you're blocked into a low
Speaker 1: hit and you don't have control of your body, then
Speaker 1: it's not a foul. And and I think we looked
Speaker 1: at that and felt that that was not rough in
Speaker 1: the passer. Again, I think that's something um to uh
Speaker 1: the league will look at. And then, um, not necessarily
Speaker 1: a big call in the game, but this was a
Speaker 1: big call in this game, Pittsburgh Baltimore game that ended
Speaker 1: up going to overtime and Baltimore winning on a field
Speaker 1: goal fourth quarter And and Travis, You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: help me with the name here. Um h ala sukanimi
Speaker 1: a Dinini? Is that Dinini? I tried to look it
Speaker 1: up and I couldn't find it real quick. And Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, yes, we'll get it. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure I would come up with the nickname. I
Speaker 1: would come up with the nickname um for him. But
Speaker 1: fourth quarter to Baltimore is behind and and Adnini comes
Speaker 1: in forceable contact above the knee, uses his arms to wrap,
Speaker 1: gets his body off to the side. I mean, I
Speaker 1: really look at this as a textbook tackle when you're
Speaker 1: coming off a block and avoiding a foul. And uh.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately for Pittsburgh, the referee felt differently. And this
Speaker 1: is obviously it's a judgment call. It happens quickly on
Speaker 1: the field. We get the benefit of replay and slow
Speaker 1: motion and all on different angles, but a big, big
Speaker 1: call in that game extended the drive fifteen more yards
Speaker 1: and and Pittsburgh Um, the game ended up tied at
Speaker 1: the end of that drive. Baltimore kicked the field goals.
Speaker 1: So UM some definitely some debatable calls and and and
Speaker 1: obviously people are frustrated. But the bottom line is, as
Speaker 1: we talked about players safety, I think the league will
Speaker 1: certainly live with some questionable calls if in the big picture,
Speaker 1: we're protecting the quarterback. Look, we've already lost raw Flisberger
Speaker 1: for the season, Drew Brees is out a couple more weeks.
Speaker 1: You you saw, and we're gonna talk about a hit
Speaker 1: on Roethlisberger's back up, Mason Rudolph. These are you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: player safety is important at all positions. The quarterback is
Speaker 1: a premium position on on a team, and and I
Speaker 1: think the league is certainly um competition. He puts rules
Speaker 1: in place to protect the past or because he is
Speaker 1: in a defenseless posture a lot of the time. And
Speaker 1: I think, again, those are debatable calls, their judgment calls
Speaker 1: and uh, and again we didn't agree with with all
Speaker 1: of them, but calls that we certainly did agree with
Speaker 1: is the erl Thomas hit on Mason Rudolph and and
Speaker 1: we were in the studio on Sunday watching it and
Speaker 1: just you know what was as as a fan, and
Speaker 1: you think about even a fan of of the Ravens,
Speaker 1: it's how do you feel when you see Rudolph get
Speaker 1: hit and the way he reacted and his body went limp.
Speaker 1: It's just it's scary. I can't speak for a Ravens fan.
Speaker 1: They probably have a little more hate towards the Steelers
Speaker 1: that I do. But you don't want to see a
Speaker 1: guy go limp and fall to the ground like that,
Speaker 1: no matter who it is, what team they played for.
Speaker 1: And for me, you don't you don't ever want to
Speaker 1: see that as a fan. And and that that I
Speaker 1: think was Look, Rudolf had had left the pocket, he
Speaker 1: was throwing on the run. Thomas did hit him in
Speaker 1: the head. There was clearly contacted. Looked like to the chin.
Speaker 1: Rudolf hit his head on the turf. It was just scary.
Speaker 1: He was obviously he was obviously out. He was he
Speaker 1: was unconscious for at least a period of time. And uh,
Speaker 1: and again that's something the league will look at Thomas
Speaker 1: was not ejected, and there was a lot of questions
Speaker 1: as to why. Look, we just saw Vantes Burfett get
Speaker 1: ejected and suspended for the year, and now you have this,
Speaker 1: this situation, the scary situation involving players safety, and why
Speaker 1: isn't Thomas thrown out of the game? And the league,
Speaker 1: obviously New York can get involved in that aspect of
Speaker 1: its official strow flag on the field. New York looks
Speaker 1: at it and what they're looking for is did the
Speaker 1: player delivering the blow, did he have a clear path?
Speaker 1: Did he have options? Did he lower his head lead
Speaker 1: with the crown of the helmet like perfect did and
Speaker 1: uh or In this instance, I felt Thomas he may
Speaker 1: have had a clear path, but it looked like he
Speaker 1: turned his head to the side, was attempting to get
Speaker 1: shoulder to the body. I didn't quite get there. So
Speaker 1: I believe that's why. I don't want to speak for
Speaker 1: for the folks in New York, but I believe that's
Speaker 1: why he was not ejected. But look, the league will
Speaker 1: look at this, and there's a process in place for
Speaker 1: supplemental discipline. We saw it with Vantz last week. The
Speaker 1: league will look at this and uh. And again what
Speaker 1: what's so important is that we understand officiating on the
Speaker 1: field and even from New York. Whether we eject the
Speaker 1: player or not, you have to and it's hard, but
Speaker 1: you have to remove the aftermath. We can't sit there
Speaker 1: and look at look at Mason Rudolph and and the
Speaker 1: injury and let that factor into your decision whether to
Speaker 1: eject this play there, And that's difficult to do. You
Speaker 1: have to look at the act itself and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: was it a clear path, was it flagrant? Did he
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to do something other than attack to
Speaker 1: the head neck area? And and again, scary situation, but
Speaker 1: the league chose not to eject. I would imagine there's
Speaker 1: gonna be something coming this week. I don't if it's
Speaker 1: up to me. I don't think it's gonna be a suspension.
Speaker 1: I know, I know Thomas has had some some fines
Speaker 1: in the past, certainly nothing to the extent of of perfect,
Speaker 1: but at the very minimum, I I would expect some
Speaker 1: kind of a fine on that plan. This one's interesting
Speaker 1: because you see Thomas is going right at him and
Speaker 1: as he's as Rudolph is throwing the ball, he's kind
Speaker 1: of jumping and throwing and he comes down, so it's
Speaker 1: like he's he's changing his his strike zone a bit.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, it's tough. It's a tough one.
Speaker 1: But I think the other one though, in the in
Speaker 1: the Tampa New Orleans game, there was a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff in that game. There was an ejection in that game,
Speaker 1: and that was that was Carlton Davis who hit Jared Cook.
Speaker 1: Jared Cook was a defenseless receiver on the play, attempting
Speaker 1: to catch a pass. And if you watch that play,
Speaker 1: and I'd like, if you have an opportunity, go and
Speaker 1: watch the two plays side by side, watch what Thomas
Speaker 1: does and then watch what what Davis does. And Carlton
Speaker 1: Davis has a clear path and he clearly lowers his
Speaker 1: head and goes with the crown of the helmet to
Speaker 1: the head of Jared Cook. And I think that was
Speaker 1: the clear difference as to why Davis was ejected and
Speaker 1: Thomas was not. And look, it looks scarier because Mason
Speaker 1: Ruolph was injured. Cook jumped right back up, and again
Speaker 1: you've got to try to remove that part of it
Speaker 1: when you're looking at whether to eject the player. But
Speaker 1: but again I felt that was a good ejection. It
Speaker 1: came from New York because the officials on the field
Speaker 1: through the flag and then and then after the fact
Speaker 1: it uh it did uh it did um come from
Speaker 1: New York and he was ejected. One other side note
Speaker 1: on the route off play, it was you know, it
Speaker 1: was unfortunate. And and look this is something that the
Speaker 1: cart the medical card didn't work. And I've never seen
Speaker 1: that they were pushing the medical card and they couldn't
Speaker 1: put Rudolph on the car and they actually had to
Speaker 1: walk him um with his face mask removed and and
Speaker 1: so he looked like he was playing in like nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty five and his face mask removed and they took
Speaker 1: him off the field. And because the electric card, I
Speaker 1: believe it was an electric car, probably electric, that's why
Speaker 1: it didn't work. And we want Joe's looking at me.
Speaker 1: But Joe, Joe just picked up a tesla this this
Speaker 1: weekend and and he's never ever he's gonna work camp
Speaker 1: because I've never heard more. I mean, Elon Musk should
Speaker 1: should hire this guy, because I've never heard anybody anybody
Speaker 1: more excited about about a car. And uh, then Joe
Speaker 1: and his tesla, but does it have that new car smell?
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's I don't know, but just make sure
Speaker 1: you get a you need to borrow my my my
Speaker 1: iPhone charger? Do you need so for an extra charge?
Speaker 1: I'm saving my words. Okay, very good, very good, But
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, look but I don't want to joke
Speaker 1: about that part of it. It's it's you gotta that
Speaker 1: you're so concerned with moving that player, especially when there's
Speaker 1: a potential head or neck injury. Um that it just
Speaker 1: was unfortunate that that that happened. But hope, how do
Speaker 1: we not get the huntred dudes that are super strong
Speaker 1: playing you know, professional sports to help push that card
Speaker 1: off the future? Put him on, push on, push him.
Speaker 1: I think that's I mean, we've all I've done that.
Speaker 1: You see people on the side of the road where
Speaker 1: where the car runs out of gas or or in
Speaker 1: Joe's case, when he's when he when that charge, when
Speaker 1: he gets two hundred seventy one miles and that charge
Speaker 1: is done, and we're gonna have to push the the tesla,
Speaker 1: you know, to the to the charging station. UM, I
Speaker 1: can't wait for that. But anyway, be the first one
Speaker 1: I call. But please thank you make sure your phone
Speaker 1: is charged to when you call me. So let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's go to break and uh and when we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do our our weekly the high update. Alright,
Speaker 1: we're back on good calls. Let's get into just some
Speaker 1: stats things too, that we watch on a weekly basis
Speaker 1: as we talk about the game right now. And these
Speaker 1: are through week four, so we don't have the week
Speaker 1: five stats finalized, but through week four scoring was down
Speaker 1: forty four point four points per game. That's combined points.
Speaker 1: That's down just under four points per game from last
Speaker 1: year at this time. And when you look at potential
Speaker 1: reasons why. The two things that I look at our
Speaker 1: offensive holding, an offensive past inferiance. Offensive holding through four
Speaker 1: weeks up seventy calls. Okay, offensive past inferiance through four
Speaker 1: weeks up twenty calls. Those those are significant increases. When
Speaker 1: you talk about holding an op I, those are ten
Speaker 1: yard penalty, those are first in twenties, those are those
Speaker 1: are second in twenties. Those those are hard to overcome,
Speaker 1: and those lead to punts and they lead to less scoring.
Speaker 1: So as long as those numbers are up O p
Speaker 1: I offensive holding, I think we're gonna have a challenge
Speaker 1: with scoring now, at least through the games on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Unofficially scoring was up. Scoring was up just over forty
Speaker 1: eight points per game. I don't know where we are
Speaker 1: holding an an O p I, but we'll check on
Speaker 1: that next week. But again, scoring was up. The other
Speaker 1: thing we always look at, you want what's the what's
Speaker 1: the equation, Travis? Do you remember that? The equation? We
Speaker 1: talk about scoring in margin of victory? Correct? So what what? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Correct one? What's the good? What's the good recipe? We
Speaker 1: want high scoring games that are closed very good. So
Speaker 1: we want we want high score and we want low
Speaker 1: margin of victory. Right, He'll get it, people, He'll get it.
Speaker 1: Joe was like itching to say something he had, like
Speaker 1: the kid in school. It's like, oh, re put his
Speaker 1: arm up, but he can't talk because he talked too
Speaker 1: much crap about Tesla this weekend. Okay, so passing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, past interference. Okay. Look, I think everybody we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to accept where we are with this rule.
Speaker 1: And I know there's a lot of frustration with this
Speaker 1: rule right now. And we saw it on Sunday in
Speaker 1: the Packers Cowboys game with Jason Garrett and and again
Speaker 1: I just want to talk quickly Packers Cowboys. I was
Speaker 1: getting a lot of heat on Twitter. Um. We shot
Speaker 1: a fun segment during the pregame, me and a bar
Speaker 1: talking to a Cowboys and a Packers fan breaking down
Speaker 1: the des Brian play. Look, it wasn't my idea and
Speaker 1: and and this was the producers that Fox wanted me
Speaker 1: to do something. They want to have a little fun
Speaker 1: with it, but also educate talk about the play. So
Speaker 1: you know, when my bosses say do something, I'm in
Speaker 1: and uh. And we had a little fun. And obviously
Speaker 1: Cowboy fans weren't happy about that. But I believe me,
Speaker 1: no one is gonna let me ever live that play down. UM,
Speaker 1: will will continue to talk about that until until who knows,
Speaker 1: still the Cowboys win the Super Bowl, probably right, I
Speaker 1: think that's when that's the statute of limitations. I alright, Well,
Speaker 1: I won't let it go. So what we saw was Dallas.
Speaker 1: There was a dp I on Anthony Brown in in
Speaker 1: the third quarter. That was a big penalty thirty nine
Speaker 1: thirty nine yards and it it didn't look like a
Speaker 1: lot of contact, even even our you know, our colleagues
Speaker 1: Troy and Joe and Pereira Um, And I thought Mike
Speaker 1: did a good job. Look, it wasn't a lot of contact,
Speaker 1: but where we are, and what if it's called on
Speaker 1: the field, it's going to have to take something so obvious,
Speaker 1: meaning it's gonna have to be a whiff, right, it's
Speaker 1: gonna have to be no contact for it not to
Speaker 1: be called past deference. And and I think this is
Speaker 1: where we're seeing some of the frustration because a little
Speaker 1: bit later in the third quarter, you've got a pass
Speaker 1: too to Marie Cooper at the sideline ruled incomplete. And
Speaker 1: you know, in Dallas, if you've ever been in Dallas,
Speaker 1: there's a giant video board that everybody can see. And
Speaker 1: this call went against the home team. So I'm sure
Speaker 1: there was a very clear shot right away that showed
Speaker 1: and and and Fox showed it on the air that
Speaker 1: Cooper did get two feet and bound. So Jason had
Speaker 1: the challenge and he was he was fired up. He
Speaker 1: he definitely threw the challenge flag a little more forcefully
Speaker 1: than normal. He was definitely trending Sunday night, So I mean,
Speaker 1: he I would I would say the correct word was
Speaker 1: he spiked the challenge flag. It was not. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was quite a gronk spike didn't get
Speaker 1: above the head, but but it was a spike of
Speaker 1: the challenge flag. And I think in addition to that,
Speaker 1: you could tell I don't know what was said, but
Speaker 1: he said something to the side judge. Okay, So there
Speaker 1: was a pool report, So there was a discussion after
Speaker 1: the game with why the foul was called Travis what
Speaker 1: what did the pool reports say? The poor reports said
Speaker 1: he actually drew the penalty flag for use of language
Speaker 1: and spiking the challenge flag in front of the official.
Speaker 1: And then there was I believe, I believe Jason actually
Speaker 1: made a comment. Yeah, he made a comment after the
Speaker 1: game and said I didn't handle that situation as well
Speaker 1: as I should have. We knew we were going to
Speaker 1: get to play because I saw it, okay. And then
Speaker 1: I think there was one other comment by Bye Jerry,
Speaker 1: Mr Jones. He actually weighed in and and this might
Speaker 1: be my favorite comment of the whole situation. He says, well,
Speaker 1: I hope the little darling's meaning the officials didn't hear
Speaker 1: something they've never heard before. So that's I think that's
Speaker 1: that's kind of a Texas thing. Next to darlings Darling
Speaker 1: didn't hear something that's not me all right, but but
Speaker 1: I just I love that. So I think, look, Jason
Speaker 1: took uh, you know, he's he's holding himself accountable for
Speaker 1: what he did, um right or wrong. Look, he was penalized.
Speaker 1: It was for abusive language, and we move on. What
Speaker 1: was really interesting about that situation is it's a fifteen
Speaker 1: yard penalty, but it ended up being first in twenty
Speaker 1: five and people were questioning, hey, why is that first
Speaker 1: in twenty five? Well, when it's a foul against an official,
Speaker 1: it's it's penalized, it's enforced separately. So what you do
Speaker 1: is you administer the play, you set the chains, and
Speaker 1: then you enforce the penalty. So what happens is Dallas
Speaker 1: wins the challenge, Cooper gets the catch. We put the
Speaker 1: ball down first and ten, set the chains, so if
Speaker 1: the catch was made at the forty, we're gonna put
Speaker 1: the front stake at the forty stretch ten yards to
Speaker 1: the fifty. Normally first and ten, but guess what. Now
Speaker 1: we're gonna enforce the fifteen yards and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: for first and twenty five. Huge, huge, huge, huge penalty.
Speaker 1: U G E versus your normal dead ball foul, that
Speaker 1: would be first and ten. You'd you'd administered the penalty
Speaker 1: then set the chain's first intent, so it ends up
Speaker 1: being a first and twenty five. The other side note
Speaker 1: on this first of two on sports and light conducts.
Speaker 1: Coach could get disqualified if he has two of those
Speaker 1: in the same game. So it applies to a player,
Speaker 1: it also applies to a coach, head, coach, assistant coach.
Speaker 1: What have you so? Really interesting? And uh, and I
Speaker 1: hope the hope the little darlings are okay, right, Travis exactly. Well,
Speaker 1: now we're getting into a little bit later in the game.
Speaker 1: Fourth quarter, we have an interception. Green Bay intercepts a
Speaker 1: pass Kevin King picks off Dak Prescott. And you had
Speaker 1: a lot of contact on this play and and it
Speaker 1: was I think you had potential illegal contact, you had
Speaker 1: potential holding, and you had potential past interference. Um, nothing
Speaker 1: was called. It was an interception. So replay has to
Speaker 1: look at They can look at past inference. They can't
Speaker 1: look at illegal contact or defensive holding. Nothing was called.
Speaker 1: And you watched that contact, and you look at the
Speaker 1: contact that that they all don Anthony Brown earlier and
Speaker 1: and there's you can make a case that there was
Speaker 1: more contact on the interception. And so the bottom line
Speaker 1: is is that what's happening with this rule is if
Speaker 1: it's called on the field, it's past an ofference. The
Speaker 1: same act that's not called on the field is not
Speaker 1: past an inference. I mean, that's what we're seeing and
Speaker 1: and I don't think that is an indictment on the
Speaker 1: decision making. I think that's the problem with making these
Speaker 1: calls reviewable because it's so subjective. And if your standard
Speaker 1: is clear and obvious that if you're looking for Saints
Speaker 1: Rams NFC Championship game too to add a foul, you're not.
Speaker 1: You're not seeing that. But if we're looking for clear
Speaker 1: and obvious to pick up a foul, it has to be,
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, almost no contact. So that's where
Speaker 1: we are. We saw two plays to OPI plays one
Speaker 1: and third Thursday Night game where where Brandon Cooks extended
Speaker 1: an arm, Seattle challenged it. It was a past complete
Speaker 1: to cook Seattle challenged it. There was contact both ways.
Speaker 1: Ruling on the field stood. And then we saw in
Speaker 1: the Tampa New Orleans game Michael Thomas which looked like
Speaker 1: he he pushed off on Hargraves and it looked like
Speaker 1: there was contact, clear push, created space, no call on
Speaker 1: the field. Coach Arians challenged it, ruling on the field stood.
Speaker 1: And I thought that that Thomas play, especially, is a
Speaker 1: play where flag down, they're not picking it up, but
Speaker 1: the same exact thing is happening and they're not putting
Speaker 1: it down. I think that's where that's where the frustration lies.
Speaker 1: And again we saw coach Garrett, I think, and again
Speaker 1: I believe he was still frustrated about that that challenge
Speaker 1: yet earlier with the past interference and uh and he
Speaker 1: obviously said something not condoning that, but it was out
Speaker 1: of frustration. And the other point is people don't know
Speaker 1: if people everybody understands this, but two on sportsmanlike conducts
Speaker 1: and you're out of the game, and that include the coach.
Speaker 1: So we haven't seen that, we've seen a player get
Speaker 1: too in the in one game. But if if he
Speaker 1: gets a second on sports my conduct and it's something
Speaker 1: against an official, it's throwing a punch and and there's
Speaker 1: no contact, any verbal abuse toward an opponent, two of
Speaker 1: those in youar gone. So and that would include the
Speaker 1: coach as well, so um interesting interesting situation there with
Speaker 1: p I one other play from Tampa, New Orleans. This
Speaker 1: got a lot of social media attraction and and Bucks
Speaker 1: fans were not happy. And as per usual, when I
Speaker 1: go on the air and I explained something and I
Speaker 1: agree with what happened, they're angry with me. If I
Speaker 1: disagree with what happened, they're angry with me. But anyway,
Speaker 1: here's the situation. It was a punt. Bucks were punting
Speaker 1: to New Orleans. Deonte Harris catches the punt, starts to return,
Speaker 1: it gets hit, ball comes loose, it ends up in
Speaker 1: a pile. Tampa, it comes out with the football, and
Speaker 1: I believe it was ANTHONYO. Claire on Tampa that that
Speaker 1: actually came out of the pile. But the ruling on
Speaker 1: the field was down by contact. Tampa challenged, we're outside
Speaker 1: two minutes. It's not a turnover. So that's a challenge situation.
Speaker 1: Tampa challenge that it was a fumble. But you have
Speaker 1: to win both aspects, meaning it has to be a
Speaker 1: fumble and there has to be clear obvious evidence of
Speaker 1: a recovery, and a player coming out of a pile
Speaker 1: is not clear, and obvious evidence of a recovery. The
Speaker 1: reason why is that when the ball goes into the
Speaker 1: pile and the officials ruled down by contact, what are
Speaker 1: they doing. They're blowing the whistle, They're going into the
Speaker 1: pile and saying ruling on the field is down. They're
Speaker 1: telling players to get off so that ball could change
Speaker 1: hands after that. So what the Competition Committee put in
Speaker 1: when they made that clear recovery part of it, they said,
Speaker 1: you have to actually visually see the player recover the
Speaker 1: loose ball. You didn't see that. I think Tampa recovered it,
Speaker 1: but since they ruled down by contech, there was no
Speaker 1: visual evidence and the call on the field stood in
Speaker 1: replay and that's the correct replay decision. Look, it was
Speaker 1: a fumble. They got it wrong on the field. Initially
Speaker 1: it was a fumble, but because you have to see
Speaker 1: who recovers the football, it uh, it was not overturned
Speaker 1: and uh. And I think this is a situation where
Speaker 1: and I'm hoping to get him on the podcast. I
Speaker 1: think we will at some point, but this is one
Speaker 1: of those where b a as as as a lot
Speaker 1: of people that know him Bruce Arians, we we refer
Speaker 1: to him as b a Um. I would imagine there's
Speaker 1: a cooling off period. He can't call the league office
Speaker 1: until until twenty four hours after the game. But I
Speaker 1: would imagine at twenty four hours and one second, the
Speaker 1: phone might ring, and it might be be a and
Speaker 1: there might be some profanity, just just maybe just a hunch.
Speaker 1: But how many of those calls did you take from him? Oh?
Speaker 1: My god, so so yeah. I think the first year
Speaker 1: I was I was in the league office as the
Speaker 1: head of officiating. The first year, he told me it
Speaker 1: was like October. He said, I'm never calling again. That
Speaker 1: lasted two weeks. The second year, he accused me of
Speaker 1: betting on a game, Okay, betting on a game like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna risk my career on the week six
Speaker 1: Rams Bucks game. That that that's that's what I'm risking
Speaker 1: my career, right, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna clean up
Speaker 1: on that game and give up my my career. And
Speaker 1: then the third year he accused me of not knowing
Speaker 1: the rules. So but we go way back. He's awesome.
Speaker 1: I love him. We'll have him on the show at
Speaker 1: some point. Let's uh, let's go to break and when
Speaker 1: we come back, we'll go inside the brain inside the brain,
Speaker 1: and I love that. I love that trap. This is
Speaker 1: very Halloween too. We'll be right back all right, We're
Speaker 1: back on good calls. We're a few minutes away from
Speaker 1: our special guest, Eagles coach Doug Peterson. But right now
Speaker 1: we're gonna go. We're gonna have a little fun. But
Speaker 1: I do want to say, guys, how how do you
Speaker 1: guys doing the survivor pool at our Fox Rules Cube
Speaker 1: Survivor Pool this one. I went out with the rams
Speaker 1: last week, right, Joe? You went out yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: allowed to talk during this segment. But I am, I am.
Speaker 1: I want again today. We're not gonna talk teams, but
Speaker 1: I want again today. So I'm still alive in the
Speaker 1: in the Survivor pool because again I'm a smart businessman
Speaker 1: and I purchased somebody else's pick um. So if you
Speaker 1: have a problem with that, talk to Luther, who I
Speaker 1: purchased the pick fro him. He's to sell out, not me,
Speaker 1: and all those people that listen, let us know how
Speaker 1: you feel about that. Are you allowed to buy back in?
Speaker 1: Joe is okay with it. He's the one who brought
Speaker 1: my attention. I had never heard of that. You're only
Speaker 1: a smart business man. If you win it, that's right.
Speaker 1: I will win the luck I will win. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about this. I want I want to the
Speaker 1: d M of the Week. I get a lot of
Speaker 1: I get a lot of really excited people on Twitter,
Speaker 1: and and i'd say the percentages, I'd say, ninety three
Speaker 1: point six seven percent is not good. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: pretty negative. There are there are the handful of people. Um,
Speaker 1: there's my boy, Dustin Poppa. Shout out to Dustin pop
Speaker 1: I gotta respond to him. He asked me how many
Speaker 1: ice cream sandwiches I could eat in twenty minutes? Okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm I guarantee you I could eat at least
Speaker 1: maybe not two boxes of twelve I could, I could,
Speaker 1: I said, I said, in the heat of the moment.
Speaker 1: Four I'm gonna come down a little bit. Eighteen and
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. Eighteen regular size ice cream sandwiches I could eat.
Speaker 1: You haven't seen me in ice cream, So all right,
Speaker 1: eighteen is much more doable than twenty four. I was
Speaker 1: pounding the under. Okay, So the d M of the week.
Speaker 1: This comes from my buddy Caleb Clemens. At Caleb Clemens
Speaker 1: and he said I hate you, and the thought alone
Speaker 1: of hearing your voice makes my and I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: use the word, but makes my blank itch having nice day.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let everybody else decide what what blank is.
Speaker 1: But but hearing my voice makes calebs itch. All right.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the d M of the week. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, Caleb. So let's go to um the random thought. Joe,
Speaker 1: let's go to the random thought of the week. You
Speaker 1: gotta can you can something inside the brain of Blendino.
Speaker 1: That was kind of the first one. Yeah, the first
Speaker 1: one was kind of halloween e spooky. That was more
Speaker 1: like Joe Cocker like kind of you know, like a
Speaker 1: little little gravelly can you get you know, can you
Speaker 1: give me like a little next time, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: like a Michael McDonald, Come on, you gotta give it
Speaker 1: to me, you know, all right? What do you got? You?
Speaker 1: All right? So I've got to here, I've got I
Speaker 1: kind of my finger landed on two. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let you choose one. Love it or list it. Hillary
Speaker 1: didn't do the upstairs bathroom, Okay. The second one is
Speaker 1: favorite type of sprinkler. Okay, So let's let's go Love
Speaker 1: It or Listed. Hillary didn't do the upstairs bathroom, so
Speaker 1: I love There's two things. I love h G TV
Speaker 1: and I love the Hallmark Channel. Okay, so right now
Speaker 1: Hallmark Channel, we are in the middle of Fall Harvest,
Speaker 1: so it's all like Halloween, Thanksgiving, me movies. Christmas is
Speaker 1: gonna be off the chain this year with the Christmas movies.
Speaker 1: But right now we're Fall Harvest. Every Saturday night a
Speaker 1: new movie on Hallmark. They're amazing. But I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: West Brown on this show. Oh my God, Browns and Loves.
Speaker 1: You're a friend of mine. Hallmark character Big Saints, Fanta
Speaker 1: h Definitely, we'll talk football, will talk Saints and Hallmark.
Speaker 1: H G TV is is another passion of mine, and
Speaker 1: Love It or List is one of my favorite shows.
Speaker 1: On the premise of Love It or Listed. As you
Speaker 1: get this, this family couple, whatever it is, they live
Speaker 1: in a current house, the house. One person thinks they've
Speaker 1: outgrown the house. It's not. It's not working for them
Speaker 1: space wise, layout wise. The other person wants to stay
Speaker 1: and thinks if we just renovate, we'll be fine. They
Speaker 1: get Hillary, who's the interior designer, comes in. They give
Speaker 1: her a budget, she fixes it up. They get David
Speaker 1: who's the real estate guy. He shows them other houses.
Speaker 1: At the end of the show, they either love it,
Speaker 1: stay in the house, or they list it, sell the
Speaker 1: house and go to what David And I'm a big
Speaker 1: listed guy. I love when they list it because all
Speaker 1: they do is complain about the house and and they're like,
Speaker 1: the upstairs bathroom doesn't work. It needs to be it
Speaker 1: needs to be you know, updated, We need an open layout,
Speaker 1: the backsplash, all the key real estate catchphrases, you know,
Speaker 1: open layout, the whole thing. And literally of the time
Speaker 1: they love it. And I'm always get frustrated because I'm like,
Speaker 1: Hillary didn't do the upstairs bathroom and they still love it.
Speaker 1: And David showed them this amazing house under budget near
Speaker 1: there where their preferred neighborhood was as everything they want
Speaker 1: room to grow, and they still love it. So that
Speaker 1: is that random thought. Okay, the writers just have you
Speaker 1: sucked in. They have just sucked in. Okay, sucked in.
Speaker 1: Before we get to Doug Peterson, I do want to
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about SmackDown Friday Night. Okay, I
Speaker 1: was lucky enough the people at Fox WW were gracious
Speaker 1: enough to invite some of us. You guys didn't get
Speaker 1: the end. We didn't. I did, and we went to SmackDown.
Speaker 1: They had a blue carpet. We walked the blue carpet.
Speaker 1: I met Rick Flair, whole Cogan, I met, I met
Speaker 1: mc foley, Kurt Angle, the Rock was there. But what
Speaker 1: I want to talk about is forget that. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about the best officials in all of sports.
Speaker 1: Can we call them w W E referees? You don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think you have appreciation. We were all sitting together.
Speaker 1: It was me, it was Matt Leinert, it was Brady Quinn,
Speaker 1: it was Rob Stone, it was Urban Meyers. So the
Speaker 1: big new kickoff, almost everybody was there. I honestly had
Speaker 1: more fun. We had more fun. I said, you guys
Speaker 1: have to watch the referee. Trust me, just watch the
Speaker 1: referees reaction what he does. And they were loving it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what was more fun though,
Speaker 1: watching them watch the referee or watching Urban Meyer try
Speaker 1: to make sense of what was happening. He I mean,
Speaker 1: he looked like what is going on? It was amazing.
Speaker 1: As a coach, this is not Michigan, Ohio State right now.
Speaker 1: This is definitely a little bit different. But the referees
Speaker 1: are amazing in w w E. There, they are certainly
Speaker 1: the most in Hazard's way. I mean they they should
Speaker 1: get combat pay for what happens to the referees. The
Speaker 1: ability to when you're when you're doing a three three
Speaker 1: pin count, the ability to stop your hand two inches
Speaker 1: from the ground when the shoulder comes up, tell me
Speaker 1: that that reaction time isn't the best in sports. The
Speaker 1: only problem easily distracted. I will say that definitely easily distracted.
Speaker 1: A little shaky on some of the rules applications, especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to wrestler safety. But I mean when
Speaker 1: you have a you know, when you have a ladder
Speaker 1: match and you can you know, body slam people off
Speaker 1: the top of the ladder. I don't know how much
Speaker 1: we can, you know, focus on player safety, but all right,
Speaker 1: make sure you watch SmackDown every Friday night on Fox.
Speaker 1: All right, we're joined now by our special guests. This
Speaker 1: is a guy that has won a Super Bowl as
Speaker 1: a player and as a coach, one of only four
Speaker 1: people in NFL history to do that, head coach of
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, Doug Peterson. Doug, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1: How you doing doing well, Dean? Thanks for thanks for
Speaker 1: having me on. I didn't really realize that one of
Speaker 1: one of four people in the National Football League. That's
Speaker 1: pretty pretty special. Yeah, do you know who the other
Speaker 1: You know who the other three are? Can you guess?
Speaker 1: Tony Dungee? That's one. Um, that's too, that's too yet
Speaker 1: one more, of course, of course me. And who's the
Speaker 1: fourth one? Chuck Nol? Now not Chuck Noll. He coached
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. This guy he coached with the Raiders.
Speaker 1: He was head coach of the Raiders. Um, oh, that's
Speaker 1: it's what's his name? I know it's Uh, you got it?
Speaker 1: I know you got it. Tom Flores. Who you think
Speaker 1: I know who it is? What's his name? Tom Flores Flores?
Speaker 1: That's it's right, that's it. Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: All I could think of was the hair. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: he did have He did have amazing hair. He had
Speaker 1: great hair, and he didn't you have good hair, but
Speaker 1: you hide it in that in that visor. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I need to know. All right, let's let's
Speaker 1: let's talk. You know, we're talking about officiating and rules
Speaker 1: and for from your perspective, How important is it that
Speaker 1: your players understand the rules and what and what structure
Speaker 1: do you have in place at the Eagles to ensure
Speaker 1: that they're playing within the rules. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: think it's very important that you know, we instruct or,
Speaker 1: I instruct our our team, you know, with all the
Speaker 1: different points of emphasis every year or rule changes or
Speaker 1: modifications that come out of the spring meetings. You know,
Speaker 1: I do think it's important. And so UM, I feel
Speaker 1: like that taking time in the off season, UH this
Speaker 1: past year to educate our players, show them video, showing clips,
Speaker 1: even um, you know, even take them through you know,
Speaker 1: some practice sessions when the officials are with us in
Speaker 1: the spring and summer. I think it's important you know
Speaker 1: that they understand because you know, if the if they
Speaker 1: don't understand, if something happens, then you know, UM, it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of on me as a head football coach,
Speaker 1: you know, to uh to to keep them to keep
Speaker 1: them informed. But we do it that way. UM, you know,
Speaker 1: we've show them video, We're show him the clips, we
Speaker 1: take them through it. Obviously educate our players. UM, we
Speaker 1: do it XS and os anyway, UM, and I feel
Speaker 1: like it's important that we do it with the officiating
Speaker 1: as well, and and we saw, you know, the league
Speaker 1: obviously took a pretty drastic step and and suspended Vontes
Speaker 1: Burfick for the rest of the season. Is that something
Speaker 1: have you or will you address with the team at
Speaker 1: some point? You know, I try to avoid sometimes some
Speaker 1: of those things because I know that's that's a situation
Speaker 1: that has kind of been ongoing and there's history there
Speaker 1: with those Now I don't mind. And I have shown
Speaker 1: the team clips of those types of hits, and I know,
Speaker 1: you know, from a league standpoint, we're trying to remove
Speaker 1: that from you know, our game and try to keep
Speaker 1: the game as safe as possible. And and that's the
Speaker 1: one you know, only downside is those repeat offenders like
Speaker 1: that to continue to um not break their own cycle,
Speaker 1: you know, of of hits. But you know, I think
Speaker 1: it's important to show the team those things. But I
Speaker 1: don't get into necessarily the suspension stuff. I let the
Speaker 1: league handle that sure. And and we mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: you were a player. Was that something during your playing days?
Speaker 1: How much time did you spend studying the rules? Was
Speaker 1: that something? Was that a focus? Obviously it's not a
Speaker 1: primary focus, but was it something you spend time on.
Speaker 1: We spent a little bit of time on it as players,
Speaker 1: I would say, obviously, now as as a coach, I'm
Speaker 1: spending a lot more time. There's a lot more data
Speaker 1: and research available to us as coaches and players now,
Speaker 1: you know, to understand the cruise each and every week,
Speaker 1: and and so we actually put that in the scouting reports.
Speaker 1: It's something that we feel that's important that our players understand,
Speaker 1: you know, who the crew is, the types of calls
Speaker 1: that they potentially could make in the game. But you know,
Speaker 1: back when I played, we we weren't as probably informed
Speaker 1: as much um you know, and this was the late
Speaker 1: nineties early two thousands that I think just now with
Speaker 1: the more information than data, we can definitely educate our
Speaker 1: players a little more each week on on who the
Speaker 1: crew is. Yeah, and you mentioned you mentioned kind of
Speaker 1: the the analysis and the and the data that that
Speaker 1: we're collecting today. And obviously scouting is such a big
Speaker 1: part of what you do with the NFL. You're scouting
Speaker 1: players for the draft, you're scouting potential free agents, you're
Speaker 1: scouting your upcoming opponents. You mentioned scouting the officiat and cruise.
Speaker 1: What goes into that. How how much detail when you're
Speaker 1: when you've got a crew coming in for your game,
Speaker 1: you know, how much detail is going into that that
Speaker 1: scouting report. There's there's quite a bit. It's just it's
Speaker 1: no different than than scouting our opponents. UM. You know,
Speaker 1: we have everything from if there's a crew member change,
Speaker 1: if there's a new you know, a new crew member,
Speaker 1: to that to that to that staff, to that referees,
Speaker 1: UH crew We will will note that we can go
Speaker 1: back to three years on cruise and and and and
Speaker 1: pull data. UM. So there's historical data that we use
Speaker 1: UM and then obviously aren't current data with the with
Speaker 1: the you know, three or four games that we've already
Speaker 1: played this season, and having having that information available to
Speaker 1: us and we can we go back and we study
Speaker 1: every flag that is that is that is put down
Speaker 1: on the field. UM. Is that data is collected and UH,
Speaker 1: and it's everything from not only just fouls committed, but
Speaker 1: also challenges, you know, and having having the red flag
Speaker 1: that that having those challenges even UM scouted and to
Speaker 1: see if this crew either you know, upholds a challenge
Speaker 1: or reverses a challenge. That information is available too. So
Speaker 1: there's just a ton of information. We scout it just
Speaker 1: like we do our opponents, and and have a good
Speaker 1: feel heading into you know, weekend Sunday games on on
Speaker 1: what we can or possibly could expect and and not
Speaker 1: that you're gonna not that you're gonna coach anything that
Speaker 1: is illegal. But is is it as simple as hey,
Speaker 1: this crew they're they're they're pretty strict on holding, So
Speaker 1: we've got to we've got to keep our hands inside
Speaker 1: the ram or this this cru is a little more liberal.
Speaker 1: Is that the kind of communication going back to the players?
Speaker 1: It is? And and I actually take time on a
Speaker 1: Saturday morning to sort of educate the team on on
Speaker 1: who our crew is. We show them, we show them
Speaker 1: clips of you know, league wide clips out of the
Speaker 1: first you know, four games of the regular season that
Speaker 1: could be maybe a point of emphasis or hey, this
Speaker 1: has been this is a foul that's occurring more and more,
Speaker 1: you know, in the National Football League right now. But
Speaker 1: but being able to utilize that data and then and
Speaker 1: then express to our team, Hey, listen, you know, defensive backs,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a crew that you know
Speaker 1: calls more d P I S or I c T s.
Speaker 1: You know, defensive holding calls. It might be something like that,
Speaker 1: and we just just sort of put that out there
Speaker 1: to them because I don't want them to worry about,
Speaker 1: you know, sort of handcuffing them on game day. You
Speaker 1: still want them to play loose and play free. But
Speaker 1: if they have that knowledge going in um, then they
Speaker 1: can keep that in the back in the mind when
Speaker 1: they play. Now, is there what what's the hallmark for
Speaker 1: you of of a good of of a good crew,
Speaker 1: of of a well officiated game. You walk away from
Speaker 1: a game and you say, you know what, those those
Speaker 1: guys did a good job. What what are some of
Speaker 1: the things that stand out. I think the number one
Speaker 1: thing is is you don't notice that they're there. And
Speaker 1: I say that in a positive and you know, where
Speaker 1: where it's not affecting the outcome of the game, they
Speaker 1: kind of let the players play. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's been games where you know, there's like a
Speaker 1: ton of flags on the ground and it's like, oh man,
Speaker 1: we can't really do anything, you know, either side, and
Speaker 1: both teams kind of feel that way. Where then there's
Speaker 1: those games where man, you you come away with it
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, maybe there were six penalties but
Speaker 1: they really didn't affect maybe the outcome or you know,
Speaker 1: you as an offense, defense or as a team, and
Speaker 1: you kind of walk away going, man, that was a
Speaker 1: that was a clean game, that was a well officiated game.
Speaker 1: When you feel like they weren't affecting or a part
Speaker 1: of the game, um from the standpoint of outcome, you know.
Speaker 1: And and I think, to me, that's just uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the crews that and and they're on top of things.
Speaker 1: There's great communication on on game day between me and
Speaker 1: the referee, or me and a side judge, a back judge,
Speaker 1: align judge, whoever it might be. There's great communication, there's
Speaker 1: great dialogue, um. And and to me, that's that's a
Speaker 1: sign of a good crew, a crew that's that's really
Speaker 1: working for the players, working for the teams. And and uh,
Speaker 1: you come away feeling like, uh, you know, honestly, they
Speaker 1: weren't they weren't even there. And we we talked about
Speaker 1: so we talked about before the game, during the game,
Speaker 1: after the game. There's a system in place for for
Speaker 1: clubs to communicate with the officiating department where you'll submit
Speaker 1: questions uh into the officiating department to get some clarity
Speaker 1: on situations. How important do you view that process and
Speaker 1: how do you approach it as a staff? We take
Speaker 1: that very important. We take that very seriously. It's a
Speaker 1: very important part of educating our players, even me as
Speaker 1: a head coach, in understanding the rules better to be
Speaker 1: able to submit plays and and I know sometimes they're
Speaker 1: probably more directed at our opponent, but sometimes they're even
Speaker 1: even you know our own you know our own players,
Speaker 1: and we want to get feedback from that so we
Speaker 1: can continue to coach and educate our players and and
Speaker 1: and show our players that hey, this is a foul
Speaker 1: or maybe it wasn't thrown during the flag, wasn't put
Speaker 1: on the ground during a game, but we can come
Speaker 1: back and say, hey, you know, this is what these
Speaker 1: guys are looking for. This will be a foul, you know,
Speaker 1: moving forward. So I I think that that that those
Speaker 1: questions that we submit, the answers that we get back,
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes we may not like the answer, but
Speaker 1: at the same time we can we can use that
Speaker 1: information to continue to educate our players and coaches on
Speaker 1: the rules. And so is it it's not you know,
Speaker 1: because I know some coaches have have used that in
Speaker 1: a different way and more of like a gripe session,
Speaker 1: but you're looking at it as more of a productive
Speaker 1: Hey let's get that. Let's get that explanation, so we
Speaker 1: can now coach to that to that explanation. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think you can. I mean, I can understand
Speaker 1: going the other way where it can be kind of
Speaker 1: a grape session where we didn't like a call, you know,
Speaker 1: in a game, and we want to get a ruling
Speaker 1: on something. I understand that, And that's that's part of
Speaker 1: it too. But I think more and more importantly, it
Speaker 1: helps It helps educate the officials, and it helps educate
Speaker 1: us and and this is what these these crews are
Speaker 1: looking for. Um. And sometimes there's a trend as the
Speaker 1: season progresses, there's a trend in you know, a certain
Speaker 1: or type of call, so we can we can use
Speaker 1: that information positively, I think in educating our players as
Speaker 1: as we go through the season. Now, the league past,
Speaker 1: obviously it's been a topic of conversation past, and inferiance
Speaker 1: is now reviewable. It's a one year change. But I
Speaker 1: know the Eagles, you you guys were part of of
Speaker 1: another proposal in the off season with some other clubs
Speaker 1: that would have made hits on defenseless players reviewable and
Speaker 1: I know there's there's still it's early with past inference,
Speaker 1: there's some kinks to be worked out. But do you
Speaker 1: where are you in terms of that propose in players
Speaker 1: safety hits on defenseless players? Is that something that that
Speaker 1: you're still interested in and maybe exploring going forward? And
Speaker 1: just where do you see us going with replay in
Speaker 1: the future. Well, Number one, I don't want anything that
Speaker 1: will slow down our game. I don't want anything that's
Speaker 1: gonna just drag on a three hour and in five
Speaker 1: six minute game to make it any longer than it
Speaker 1: already is. That's that's the first thing. So, and I
Speaker 1: do feel like replay is is helping and it's an
Speaker 1: aid uh to get plays right, to get calls right
Speaker 1: on the field, and this game is fast. These officials
Speaker 1: have a tough job. We understand that, UM and so
Speaker 1: replay is aided uh in those in those calls. And
Speaker 1: and of course we don't understanding the technology and world
Speaker 1: over cameras or you know, we can slow it down
Speaker 1: to the nth degree and really see you know, fouls
Speaker 1: or or where the ball placement is, things like that,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, During during the course of the game.
Speaker 1: But I think the bottom line is we don't want
Speaker 1: to slow or the pace of play. We want to
Speaker 1: maintain the pace of the game. UH. That way, the
Speaker 1: UM as far as the defenseless player UH fouls, you know,
Speaker 1: I think everything is about player safety. UM. From from
Speaker 1: you know, hits to you know the head or to
Speaker 1: the to the knees of quarterbacks or an arm or
Speaker 1: a head you know, a hit to the quarterback on
Speaker 1: a pass rush that sometimes get gets missed. UM. Again,
Speaker 1: if if we don't slow it down, I would like
Speaker 1: to see some of those things. Again, our game is violent. UM.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of eyes on the field seeing
Speaker 1: certain plays. UM. And if we can get those plays right,
Speaker 1: then then we can we can make our games safer
Speaker 1: and we can still educate our players. So I think
Speaker 1: that's something that we would continue to explore moving forward
Speaker 1: with with instant replay. Now, do you have I know
Speaker 1: most if not all teams have someone that that helps
Speaker 1: the head coach with replay. Do you have somebody that
Speaker 1: helps you you know, when to challenge you know, just
Speaker 1: dealing with officiating issues, handling those coaches questions, but specifically
Speaker 1: more on game day, when when should you challenge. Do
Speaker 1: you have somebody like that, I do. I do. Um.
Speaker 1: John Ferrari is his name, And uh, he's obviously very
Speaker 1: tied in with the officiating, the officials officiating crews with
Speaker 1: with Al river On and you know, and he's got
Speaker 1: a good handle on the rules and he studies that
Speaker 1: and that's to me, that's a that's a big help.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a burden lifted lifted off of me
Speaker 1: because it takes that aspect away from me where I
Speaker 1: can just coach football and and then and then he
Speaker 1: can educate me on rules. So he does now standing job.
Speaker 1: He's communicating, you know, whether it be replays or you know,
Speaker 1: to challenge you know, a certain play um in game rules,
Speaker 1: things of that nature. Things we talked about during the week,
Speaker 1: things that come up maybe on a Monday night or
Speaker 1: a Thursday night game that we see from from the league.
Speaker 1: So John does a great job that way with me
Speaker 1: and and really really eases my, uh my stress level
Speaker 1: on game day. Now does he what what's his record
Speaker 1: on challenges because if he's not, if he's not doing well,
Speaker 1: you know, I do have a little background in this area.
Speaker 1: I could come in and step in for John, if
Speaker 1: you want, has he gotten you a p I challenge
Speaker 1: yet this year? What you know what? We got a
Speaker 1: p I challenge in preseason this year we missed. We
Speaker 1: missed one in Green Bay, uh last Thursday night, but uh,
Speaker 1: um we got one in preseason that uh uh was
Speaker 1: actually I think he was three for three in that
Speaker 1: game and it might be a record for challenges. We've
Speaker 1: got three challenges, so uh, his streak is uh in,
Speaker 1: his streak is intact, but like like like wins and loss,
Speaker 1: his preseason doesn't matter, but we'll we'll go with three.
Speaker 1: You're right, preseason does not matter, so that's we throw
Speaker 1: those away. But uh, Doug, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: your time. I know you're busy, and uh, we really
Speaker 1: appreciate data and good luck the rest of the season. Dean,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for having me. I really appreciate it.
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