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Speaker 2: So want to be clear about a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: It's very clear that she's lying, and she's saying that

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Speaker 1: Why because they are now going back in to protect

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Speaker 4: What more, do Republicans need to prove and provide hard

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Speaker 5: Used, any possible wrong If you had an FBI informant

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Speaker 3: If we don't have any of.

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Speaker 2: The credit card statements from all the credit cards.

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Speaker 5: Providing information like that would answer the question.

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Speaker 3: So he's laying it out very clearly.

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Speaker 1: This is about having it laid out to the American people.

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Speaker 1: Where is the money, Where did the money go? What

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Speaker 1: Now you know John Pierre who's coming out here and saying, well,

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Speaker 1: We're worried about Bidenomics, and we're worried about you knowing

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Speaker 1: It's it's truly shocking to me to hear them talk

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Speaker 1: So to be clear, all of the money that's come

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Speaker 4: There's ninety one criminal charges against Donald Trump right now,

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Speaker 4: And it's the same thing here. If Donald Trump were

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Speaker 1: So this is the new and I play this for you.

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Speaker 1: It should frustrate you, it should make you angry, but

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Speaker 3: I would say to your friends.

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Speaker 1: Now, before I get to that, I also have to

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Speaker 3: Listen to this from the Nightly News.

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Speaker 1: Ran So Iran saying, you guys are a bunch of idiots.

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Speaker 3: Care, right it.

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Speaker 1: Also, you go to the White House, John Kirby, John

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Speaker 5: It's not ransom. These aren't US tax payer dollars. And

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Speaker 3: And we just gave them money that they can do,

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Speaker 3: We are moving forward with impeachment.

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Speaker 1: The House side, Kevin McCarthy has come out announcing that

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Speaker 5: It really is hard to believe. It's not impeachment number one,

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Speaker 5: In terms of Joe Biden's explanations, explanation number one that

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Speaker 1: like he was so prideful, and it was the arrogance

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Speaker 1: of that moment. It was like, couldn't help himself. It

441
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Speaker 1: was like, this is how powerful I was. I could

442
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Speaker 1: go over to Ukraine and tell them who to fire,

443
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Speaker 1: and I could own them while it was happening. And

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Speaker 1: if you watch that video, when I see it, it

445
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Speaker 1: actually makes me angry because it was a glimpse into

446
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Speaker 1: the abuse of power that Joe Biden was willing to

447
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Speaker 1: wield around the world on a litany probably of issues.

448
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Speaker 1: And now we know why he was doing it. It

449
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Speaker 1: was for the money and for the Biden crime family.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly right. But of the elements of bribery, Joe

451
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Speaker 5: Biden's confession on tape is direct evidence that he committed

452
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Speaker 5: one of the critical elements of bribery. Now we don't

453
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Speaker 5: yet have direct evidence of every element of the crime,

454
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Speaker 5: but we have direct evidence of one of the most critical,

455
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Speaker 5: critical aspects of the crime, which is the quo that

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden has admitted. And that is unequivocally direct evidence,

457
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Speaker 5: and it's pretty damn compelling direct evidence. There's a second,

458
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Speaker 5: very clear instance of direct evidence, and that is Hunter

459
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Speaker 5: Biden's what's app message to the Chinese communist official and

460
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Speaker 5: I want to read it to you again, Hunter Biden

461
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Speaker 5: texted quote. I am sitting here with my father and

462
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Speaker 5: we would like to understand why the commitment made has

463
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Speaker 5: not been fulfilled. Tell the director, I would like to

464
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Speaker 5: resolve this now before it gets out of hand, and

465
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Speaker 5: now means tonight and Z if I get a call

466
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Speaker 5: or a text from anyone involved in this other than

467
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Speaker 5: you Zang or the chairman. I will make certain that

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Speaker 5: between the man sitting next to me and every person

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Speaker 5: he knows, and my ability to forever hold a grudge,

470
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Speaker 5: that you will regret not following my direction. I am

471
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Speaker 5: sitting here way for the call with my father not

472
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Speaker 5: to shake down. Now that is direct evidence. That is

473
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Speaker 5: a written text sent by Hunter Biden. That is direct

474
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Speaker 5: evidence that he and his father are shaking down a

475
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Speaker 5: Chinese communist official. It's not circumstantial. It is direct evidence. Now,

476
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Speaker 5: it is possible that direct evidence is false, just as

477
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Speaker 5: if if Hunter Biden came into court and testified my

478
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Speaker 5: father and I shook down a Chinese Communist official. He

479
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Speaker 5: could be lying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he could, yeah, but I doubt it.

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Speaker 5: You can teach his credibility. You could say he's lying.

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Speaker 5: But it is direct evidence. Direct evidence doesn't necessarily mean

483
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Speaker 5: that it is true. Sometimes direct evidence is false. But

484
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Speaker 5: that's not only direct evidence. It's pretty damn compelling direct evidence.

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Speaker 5: So I promise you in the next week you will

486
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Speaker 5: see multiple Democrats and multiple yabbering uppets and the corporate

487
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Speaker 5: media say there's no direct evidence. You know, there's no

488
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Speaker 5: direct evidence. The APLS say, the allegations of corruption against

489
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Speaker 5: Joe Biden, of which there is no direct evidence, and

490
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Speaker 5: they'll state it as a fact, and it is a

491
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Speaker 5: lie every time they say it. They're lying because those

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Speaker 5: two are serious pieces of direct evidence.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you about not only that, but let's

494
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Speaker 1: connect this to the suspicious activity reports. Is this the

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Speaker 1: type of stuff that will come out in impeachment when

496
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Speaker 1: they go through it as saying, hey, we can connect

497
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Speaker 1: the quid pro quote, we can connect these these audio recordings,

498
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Speaker 1: We can connect the president's words to these financial bank

499
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Speaker 1: records and all of the bank records that James Comert

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Speaker 1: on this show. If you missed a podcast we did

501
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Speaker 1: with them, go back and listen to it. Jim Jordan,

502
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: the same thing. They have so much evidence with the

503
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Speaker 1: suspicious activity reports and the cash going to the Biden crime

504
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: family members, right, we know direct payments, we're going to

505
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Speaker 1: multiple Biden family members. Is that where this could be

506
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Speaker 1: so damning to this president could put his presidency at risk?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 5: And let me underscore if you didn't listen to our

510
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Speaker 5: two part series with James Comer, you ought to go

511
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Speaker 5: back and listen to it because we walk through at length. Now,

512
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Speaker 5: everything you just listed is circumstantial evidence. And I want

513
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Speaker 5: to take a minute because there's a ton of circumstantial

514
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Speaker 5: evidence and all of the smarmy people on TV who

515
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Speaker 5: are saying no direct evidence, they're pretending like direct evidence

516
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Speaker 5: is the only kind of evidence that exists. So, Ben,

517
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Speaker 5: if there's a dead body and with multiple gunshot wounds.

518
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Speaker 1: And I love that, I'm always the bad guy in

519
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Speaker 1: these scenarios. If you noticed this, like everybody, I'm always

520
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: the bad guy here, I'm ready for it.

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Speaker 5: Keep going next to the dead body. It appears that

522
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Speaker 5: the dead man with his bloody finger scrawled in the ground,

523
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Speaker 5: Ferguson did it?

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Speaker 3: Did it? Ferguson did it?

525
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Speaker 5: Now that's not actually direct evidence. And let's say furthermore

526
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Speaker 5: that you're found at home covered in the man's blood,

527
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Speaker 5: with gunpowder covering your body and the murder weapon at

528
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Speaker 5: your feet.

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Speaker 3: Okay, none of.

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Speaker 5: That is direct evidence either, And you know what, You're

531
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Speaker 5: going away for the rest of your life. I don't

532
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Speaker 5: need any more evidence.

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Speaker 3: Yea that evidence bye bye.

534
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Circumstantial evidence convicts people every single day. So what does

536
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 5: the circumstantial evidence look with James Comber He walked through

537
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 5: the suspicious activity reports over and over and over again.

538
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Speaker 5: The massive number of suspicious activity reports, the more than

539
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Speaker 5: twenty shell companies. That is circumstantial evidence. As we talked

540
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Speaker 5: through with James Comer, you don't create shell companies unless

541
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Speaker 5: it is to hide the source of cash. That is serious,

542
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 5: circumstantial evidence. The allegations in the FD ten twenty three

543
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Speaker 5: from a confidential human source that the FBI had previously

544
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Speaker 5: found reliable who says that the Ukrainian oligarch told him

545
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Speaker 5: that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden demanded five million each

546
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Speaker 5: in order for Joe to get the prosecutor fired. Now

547
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 5: that's not direct evidence because the confidential human source doesn't

548
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 5: know it directly. He's repeating what he says that that

549
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 5: that the oligarch said, so that that is hearsay. But

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Speaker 5: it is circumstantial evidence and is significant. The twenty plus

551
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Speaker 5: million dollars that the House of Representatives is already documented

552
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Speaker 5: that flowed into the Biden family to people, by the way,

553
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Speaker 5: who by all appearances, have no connection to foreign countries.

554
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Speaker 3: It's just like, hey, I need your bank account and

555
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 3: here's some money, and it's it's it's it must be nice.

556
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Speaker 3: That's gotta be a fun day. Like we haven't talked

557
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Speaker 3: about that enough.

558
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Speaker 1: Center the fact that you could just have the last

559
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Speaker 1: name Biden and you and randomly you get like a

560
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Speaker 1: text from Hunter right or from Joe it's like, hey,

561
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Speaker 1: I need your bank count if I'm gonna send you

562
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Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand bucks, Like, that's gotta be kind

563
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Speaker 1: of cool if you're in that situation where it's just like, hey,

564
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Speaker 1: I'm Abiden. Now every once in a while, this money

565
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Speaker 1: just randomly shows up in my bank account with A

566
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Speaker 1: and them LLC, because that's what they've been doing for years,

567
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Speaker 1: if not decades.

568
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, although it may not be all that cool

569
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Speaker 5: because remember Hunter Biden, in a twenty nineteen text to

570
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Speaker 5: his daughter, complains about how his father, Joe Biden, made

571
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Speaker 5: him give him quote half his.

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Speaker 3: Salary, yeah, half everything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, this is that that. Likewise, all of this

574
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Speaker 5: piles to a mountain of evidence, both direct and circumstantial,

575
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Speaker 5: and that mountain of evidence is serious. But there's something else,

576
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 5: which is the cover up. So let's go back to

577
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Speaker 5: this hypothetical of the guy you whacked and I don't

578
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Speaker 5: know why.

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Speaker 3: You killed him. I'm not sure but I'm sure he

580
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Speaker 3: was a nice guy.

581
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Speaker 1: But we should at the end of the year just

582
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Speaker 1: come up with all the possible crimes as examples that

583
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Speaker 1: I have committed in my and the last year on verdict,

584
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Speaker 1: you just turn it into a best steff keep going.

585
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Speaker 5: So if you're caught on film driving out on.

586
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Speaker 1: A bridge fund now and flinging the gun over the bridge,

587
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Speaker 1: over the bridge into the water.

588
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Speaker 5: Now, look, that doesn't prove if the gun has never

589
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 5: recovered that it's the murder weapon. But if it's the

590
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Speaker 5: night of the murder, yeah, and you're doing it really urgently,

591
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Speaker 5: it's pretty strong circumstantial evidence that you are hiding evidence

592
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 5: that that that demonstrates your guilt. And in fact, you

593
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 5: will see at a court of law, if a defendant

594
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Speaker 5: destroys evidence h a court can instruct the jury to

595
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Speaker 5: draw a negative inference that that evidence would would have

596
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Speaker 5: demonstrated would have been bad for them. In this instance,

597
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Speaker 5: we know that Joe Biden had multiple burner phones. We

598
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Speaker 5: know that he had multiple fake emails, up to five

599
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 5: thy four hundred of them in the National Archives. We

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Speaker 5: know that he emailed Hunter Biden. We know that he

601
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Speaker 5: emailed Hunter Biden about you and we know also that

602
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Speaker 5: two senior IRS career employees have come forward as whistleblowers

603
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Speaker 5: and have said the Biden administration engage number one in

604
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Speaker 5: line to Congress under oath of felony yep, and number

605
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Speaker 5: two in multiple instances of obstruction of justice. And in particular,

606
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Speaker 5: it's worth focusing on what was the obstruction of justice.

607
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Speaker 5: Let's go back to the WhatsApp to the message that

608
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Speaker 5: Hunter said. The IRS whistleblowers said they wanted to examine

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Speaker 5: GPS data to determine, well, when Hunter sent that text,

610
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Speaker 5: was Daddy sitting next to him? There's an answer, it's

611
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Speaker 5: either yes or no. If it's yes, that is not

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Speaker 5: direct evidence that Hunter was telling the truth, but it's

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Speaker 5: pretty strong circumstantial evidence. And according to the IRS whistleblowers,

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Speaker 5: the Biden DOJ said no, no, no, no, no, you

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Speaker 5: cannot examine the GPS locations. They likewise said no, you

616
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Speaker 5: cannot ask anything about Joe. The fact that the Biden

617
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Speaker 5: Department of Justice is willing to commit felonies allegedly, according

618
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Speaker 5: to the whistleblowers, yeah, in order to prevent investigation into

619
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Speaker 5: Joe's involvement, is powerful evidence of Joe's significant involvement, because

620
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Speaker 5: just like throwing the gun off the bridge, you don't

621
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Speaker 5: do it if you didn't do anything wrong.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you this question about this

623
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Speaker 1: impeachment compared to the Trump impeachment, the first impeachment, and

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Speaker 1: if you were the lawyer for Trump, then it was

625
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Speaker 1: more about defending yourself. A friend of mine, Jay Sekulo,

626
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Speaker 1: as you know, helped with that first impeachment, defended the president.

627
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Speaker 1: It was more about a vigorous defense of the absurdity

628
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Speaker 1: of what they were charging Donald Trump with. This is

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Speaker 1: obviously completely different than that. This is a one point

630
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Speaker 1: eighty from that. We knew that Russian collision was crap.

631
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Speaker 1: They knew it was crap, they knew how to defend it,

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Speaker 1: and they defended him. I think pretty well this impeachment.

633
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Speaker 1: If you were defending Joe Biden from a legal standpoint,

634
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Speaker 1: what are your biggest concerns if you're having to meet

635
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Speaker 1: with Joe Biden, and what are your biggest concerns for

636
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Speaker 1: his presidency If you're meeting with Joe Biden from a

637
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Speaker 1: legal standpoint, that could come out in this impeachment that

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Speaker 1: maybe has never been you know, has come out either

639
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Speaker 1: a before you haven't had to at least answer questions.

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Speaker 5: For your biggest concern is all the evidence against you,

641
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Speaker 5: the direct evidence, the evidence that you've basically admitted to

642
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 5: one of the elements of bribery. The evidence the text

643
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Speaker 5: message that your son has been caught shaking down Chinese

644
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 5: communist officials for millions of dollars and explicitly threatening that

645
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 5: you're the one who would engage in retaliation. That has

646
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Speaker 5: tied you into it. That direct evidence is certainly troubling,

647
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 5: but all the circumstantial evidence would would trouble you as well.

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Speaker 5: And look, here's what the Biden White House is going

649
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 5: to do. They're going to count on the corporate media

650
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Speaker 5: to ignore that. They're going to count on the corporate

651
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Speaker 5: media to echo their talking points.

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Speaker 3: And not cover it like they did the Trump impeachment.

653
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Speaker 5: It's to completely ignore it and refuse to address the facts.

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Speaker 5: And every day you will see a night and day

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Speaker 5: difference not just between the Joe Biden impeachment and the

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Speaker 5: Trump impeachments, but between the Joe Biden impeachment and the

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Speaker 5: ridiculous Trump indictments. There is a world of difference, and

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Speaker 5: we've discussed at great length on this podcast. The Trump indictments,

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Speaker 5: which are political and partisan. In this instance, the evidence

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Speaker 5: of actual bribery by the President of the United States

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Speaker 5: is serious and severe, and there's not a single Democrat

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Speaker 5: who is willing to address the merits. They're counting on

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Speaker 5: the press just to take their blanket dismissals.

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Speaker 1: Are there people that can now be called that may

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Speaker 1: have to add serve for their involvement, whether it's those

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Speaker 1: the DOJ, whether it's Hunter Biden, whether it's other Biden

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Speaker 1: family members. Walk us through how impeachment works when it

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Speaker 1: comes to witnesses well.

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Speaker 5: Merrick Garland is expected to testify before the House Judiciary

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Speaker 5: Committee in the coming days, and he will certainly face

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Speaker 5: significant questions about the allegations that he personally lied under

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Speaker 5: oath and committed a felony. Now, I assume he'll dodge

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Speaker 5: all of them and defiantly and arrogantly refuse to engage

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Speaker 5: in the substance. I also assume he will get questions

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Speaker 5: about the allegations of obstruction of justice, and I expect

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Speaker 5: Merrick Garland to not be remotely forthcoming. I think at

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Speaker 5: some point you will see David Weiss called before Congress

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Speaker 5: to testify. David Weiss has been directly implicated in the

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Speaker 5: obstruction of justice, which is I believe why Merrick Garland

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Speaker 5: named him the quote special counsel, because Garland and the

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Speaker 5: Biden DOJ knew they could count on Weiss to protect

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Speaker 5: the big guy, and that's their most important objective. We've

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Speaker 5: talked about how Swearin, who was the kind of money

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Speaker 5: guy and fixer for Biden, is a very likely witness

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Speaker 5: and could be a very damning witness, and I would

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Speaker 5: anticipate UH seeing him come and then we may well.

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Speaker 5: I assume Hunter Biden, if he's called to testify will

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Speaker 5: Stonewall at this point the legal.

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Speaker 1: What does that look like when you say Stonewall, is

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Speaker 1: it a tactic or are you saying he just won't

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Speaker 1: answer questions?

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Speaker 5: My assumption is will plead the fifth.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So he just come in and say I plead

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Speaker 3: the fifth and that's the end of it.

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Speaker 5: I assume that's the case, given the multiple felonies, UH

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Speaker 5: and and the fact that that he even Dad's white

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Speaker 5: house seems to be running away from him. I would

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Speaker 5: be shocked if Hunter Biden said anything else other than

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Speaker 5: on the advice of counsel, I plead the fifth. I

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Speaker 5: will say one other thing, which is this Biden impeachment

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Speaker 5: is demonstrating the utter and complete hypocrisy of Congressional Democrats.

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Speaker 5: Let me read what what Chuck Schumer said this week,

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Speaker 5: right after the House announced it's impeachment. Schumer said, quote,

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Speaker 5: I think the impeachment inquiry is absurd. The American people

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Speaker 5: want us to do something that will make their lives better,

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Speaker 5: not go off on these chases witch hunts. So Schumer

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Speaker 5: is literally using Trump's language about witch hunts and just

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Speaker 5: repeating word for word what the defense was. Now, look,

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Speaker 5: I think the Biden impeachments of Trump were witch hunts. Ironically,

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Speaker 5: this is not. This is serious evidence that Congress would

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Speaker 5: be derelict if it didn't investigate. Here, by the way,

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Speaker 5: is a quote from from Democrat Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut.

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Speaker 3: Quote.

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Speaker 5: This is what banana dictatorships do is arrest political opponents

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Speaker 5: without any evidence. Now that's screamingly funny. Yeah, given that

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Speaker 5: the Democrats have arrested their political opponent like a banana republic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But part of the reasons Democrats can be such total

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Speaker 5: hypocrites is they know the corporate media will never call

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Speaker 5: them out. On it that the corporate media will nod

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Speaker 5: and say yes, yes, but out of republic terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible,

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Speaker 5: no direct evidence, no direct evidence. And if you take

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Speaker 5: nothing else from this podcast today, remember every time they

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Speaker 5: say the words no direct evidence.

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Speaker 3: They're lying one other thing about this.

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Speaker 1: And this is where people say, Okay, we have this thing,

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Speaker 1: it happens.

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Speaker 3: Let's say it is a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Let's say there are some some some you know minds

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Speaker 1: that the Democrats step on, the White House steps on.

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Speaker 1: We still don't have the votes and the Senate to

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Speaker 1: do anything about it. Right, That's what they're gonna That's

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Speaker 1: what people that are cynical and frustrated are going to

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Speaker 1: say about this.

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Speaker 3: So how should we be looking at this impeachment? Is this? Should? Should? Should? Should?

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Speaker 1: People that are listening look at it from a standpoint of, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're getting the truth out there and a very big

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Speaker 1: way about Joe Biden before he's running for reelection, and

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Speaker 1: that can be extremely powerful and in other words, judgment

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Speaker 1: day may be election day. Or should we look at

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Speaker 1: it and be frustrated cynical because like, well, even if

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Speaker 1: we nail this thing in the House, it ain't going

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Speaker 1: to pass the Senate. So he's not going to be

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Speaker 1: impeached and lose his job over this? What mindset?

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Speaker 3: What hat should listeners put on?

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Speaker 5: So a little bit of both, Listen, the cynicism is

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Speaker 5: not misplaced. Senate Democrats and House Democrats do not care

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Speaker 5: what evidence there is of Joe Biden being corruptive as

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Speaker 5: soliciting and receiving bribes from falling foign oligarchs. They don't care.

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Speaker 5: Partisan politics trumps everything. To use my hypothetical, if the

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Speaker 5: dead guy had scrawled in blood Ferguson did it with

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden. Yeah, and Joe Biden walked out covered in

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Speaker 5: his blood, Democrats would be like nothing to see here.

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Speaker 3: Remind people what the makeup of the Senate right now.

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Speaker 5: The makeup of the Senate is fifty one Democrats, forty

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Speaker 5: nine republic.

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Speaker 1: All right, we've heard about some of you maybe becoming independent.

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Speaker 1: We've heard, you know, wishy washy things about Joe Manchin,

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Speaker 1: for example. Is there any scenario where the evidence could

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Speaker 1: be so damning on the House side that you could

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Speaker 1: you could flip two different people's people in the Senate.

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Speaker 5: It wouldn't matter if you flip two because you need

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Speaker 5: two thirds you need sixty seven. There you go, and

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Speaker 5: right now we have zero. Right now we have zero

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Speaker 5: Democrats who, to the best of my knowledge, I'm not

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Speaker 5: aware of a single Democrat who's even asked a skeptical

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Speaker 5: question who has even said, well, you know, if Biden did,

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Speaker 5: in fact solicit and receive bribes from foreign nationals, that

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Speaker 5: would be a problem. No Democrat has even said that.

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Speaker 5: And you contrast this to Richard Nixon. Listen, the reason

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Speaker 5: Richard Nixon resigned in disgrace is Republicans turned on him.

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Speaker 5: They turned on him when the evidence got over.

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Speaker 3: And I don't.

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Speaker 5: Believe Democrats would ever, ever, ever turn on Biden because

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Speaker 5: partisanship matters more than anything. But be that as it may,

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Speaker 5: that does not mean that impeachment is a waste of time,

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Speaker 5: because it is the only way to put these facts

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Speaker 5: before the American people. In a sane and normal world,

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Speaker 5: the Department of Justice would investigate and prosecute him. We'd

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Speaker 5: get a special counsel who was independent, who was consistent

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Speaker 5: with the DOJ rules, was not an employee of DJ,

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Speaker 5: and actually would investigate in conveni grand jury and potentially

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Speaker 5: prosecute these crimes. The Biden doj won't do that because

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Speaker 5: it's the most partisan and political DJ we've ever seen.

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Speaker 5: But putting these facts before the American people is valuable, nonetheless.

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Speaker 5: But to be clear, a critical part of that is

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Speaker 5: what we're doing right now on Verdict, which is the

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Speaker 5: million people who listen to Verdict. All of y'all now

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Speaker 5: have the information. When you go and you're talking to

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Speaker 5: your brother in law, you're talking to your coworker, you're

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Speaker 5: talking to your classmate, and they say, well, you know

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Speaker 5: there's no direct evidence because that's the talking point they've heard.

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Speaker 5: You now know how to refute that, and that is powerful.

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Speaker 5: That has a multiplier effect, and it's how I believe,

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Speaker 5: ultimately you force accountability.

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Speaker 1: Last question on this, and that is the politics of

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Speaker 1: overplaying your hand. I said on my podcast today, I

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Speaker 1: always worry because you've noticed this in the polls. Biden

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Speaker 1: poll numbers right now are not good, and the media

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Speaker 1: seems to be telling more of the truth about how

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Speaker 1: bad the poll numbers are. And the majority of Americans

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Speaker 1: now say they do believe that Joe Biden was corrupt

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Speaker 1: in some manner with his son in the business dealings.

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Speaker 1: That's significant. CNN even came out PBS on Sunday. They

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Speaker 1: even had one of their commentators and said, I underestimated

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's involvement with Hunter Biden and the Biden family businesses.

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Speaker 1: Is there a concern that if the Republicans play this

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Speaker 1: too strong and don't take their time toly at the

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Speaker 1: evidence of this could backfire in the same way. And

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Speaker 1: again I'm asking from a political standpoint that every time

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Speaker 1: the Democrats indict Donald Trump, what happens, Republicans stand behind

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump even more, they they send him money, they

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Speaker 1: support him, his poll numbers go up. Is there a

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Speaker 1: concern that if Republicans don't nail this the right way,

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Speaker 1: that this actually galvanizes people that maybe are wishy washy

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Speaker 1: on Biden and then it actually helps him stand up

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Speaker 1: better than he is right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look that that is conceivable. And there's no doubt

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Speaker 5: that the multiple indictments against Trump have added a lot

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Speaker 5: of points, at least ten points to his numbers in

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Speaker 5: the primary because Republicans have understandably gotten pissed off that

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Speaker 5: it's obviously a political persecution. So that counsels that the Republicans,

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Speaker 5: the Republicans in the House, need to proceed carefully. They

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Speaker 5: need to be facts based, they need to be evidence based.

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Speaker 5: They need to not have it appear political. Now in

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Speaker 5: today's world, there will be people who naturally assume it's political.

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Speaker 5: But but that that is certainly a vulnerability to be

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Speaker 5: aware of. Another vulnerability is at some point the Democrats

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Speaker 5: and or the media might decide that Joe Biden is

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Speaker 5: too wounded and jettison him and try to perish someone

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Speaker 5: else in I think that remains a very real risk.

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Speaker 5: We're going to talk about that a lot more on

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Speaker 5: the podcast, but not on this one.

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