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Speaker 2: I know he's kind of right from the Chris Westling

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Speaker 2: podcast Studios Around the NFL. Dan hands us here back

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Speaker 2: for another week ahead of the Draft, joined by heroes

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Speaker 2: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. And of course, and this is

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Speaker 2: I should say, of course because this is not typically.

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Speaker 3: a bit of concern about her whereabouts and they were

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Speaker 3: this individual, an idea that maybe forcibly taken off our

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Speaker 1: But no, she' back. Colleen Shannie's the queen Queen. She

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Speaker 1: is the Queen of NFL meeting.

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Speaker 4: I never really thought about it before, but that specific

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Speaker 1: Like it's like God just came in the studio. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's the Queen.

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Speaker 5: I mean that is essentially saying every other option to

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Speaker 6: I also thought about your strategy, like over the weekend

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Speaker 6: that you effectively came on and did an excellent eight

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Speaker 6: that's she's still is part of the any idea, she's

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Speaker 6: as anyone else. And I think it was just an

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Speaker 3: Colleen in that particular situation. It worked for the show.

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Speaker 1: I was just on the fact that it was effective.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you so much. We made it work, but.

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Speaker 1: Not a permanent solution for Colleen or anyone else.

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Speaker 6: Just thought about it like in multiple from multiple angles,

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Speaker 1: Right, you know, thank you. Jason Zummo.

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Speaker 5: By the way, reminding us football is back this week,

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Speaker 6: The twenty five percent of players that are not showing

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Speaker 5: It's just like we're back here. We've got slow motion

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Speaker 3: Season, just the way it goes. It is a bit

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Speaker 3: We already discussed that football is not back until after Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, all right? Coming up on today's.

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Speaker 3: Show, I you know, the draft is Let's see, the

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Speaker 3: talk about the players that fascinate him. In fact, this

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Speaker 3: segment is called I love them Fascinating Players in twenty

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Speaker 1: That's a good one, I think, yeah, put it in quotes. Hey,

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Speaker 3: That's from our Friday show and you were talking, of

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Speaker 3: course of lad Maconki. I don't know if he's coming

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Speaker 4: The hair situation, I feel like is fine now. It

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Speaker 1: I think among people going down certain roads you're.

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Speaker 4: It's like, I respect the guys that go completely bald

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Speaker 3: You brought it up, so I'm gonna I don't know

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Speaker 5: hitting the younger demo, Vic blends would be great. Yes,

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Speaker 4: And then now he's facing eight felony charges, six of

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Speaker 3: Let's start with Brandon and Ayuk, who trope alert removed

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Speaker 7: Media true little boy.

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Speaker 1: His agent.

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Speaker 5: Came on Twitter and said, you need better sources to

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Speaker 1: You gotta become better if you're.

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Speaker 5: In this industry, all right, No, just has this the

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Speaker 1: No, I just reading Twitter.

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Speaker 5: The report came from NFL insider John Purcella.

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Speaker 5: I'm not really sure, like just as a guy with it,

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Speaker 3: let's do it. This is Greg sitting in on the

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Speaker 1: Eric, it's time or the latest edition of the Media

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Speaker 5: So I think, yeah, if you're if you're you're on

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Speaker 1: If you can't find find one red flag?

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Speaker 5: If there's a situation where fifteen thousand followers, Okay, that's that.

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Speaker 1: I take notes. That sounds good.

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Speaker 7: It's a checklist, but then ten no job folloween yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's a red flag.

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Speaker 5: And if the link to the latest work is a

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Speaker 5: that along as info. Now, who knows an aggregator maybe

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Speaker 5: can't really tell. On his Instagram today, Brandon Nyuk was

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Speaker 1: That was that was illuminating Greg. Everything checked out and

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Speaker 1: that was the medium minute, I think, I think it, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I also think Brandon Nyuk is very likely to get

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Speaker 3: And I think if Brandon I first traded, everyone's going

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Speaker 1: Well, if the fail was slifted off our eyes, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So whatever you think Brandon I WHU deserves knock it

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Speaker 7: No, I feel like that he's got to be worth

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Speaker 6: I think he's getting paid by his current team. That

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Speaker 6: Deebo Samuel is more likely to get traded than Nayuk.

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Speaker 6: But I think it would be in twenty twenty five

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Speaker 3: In otherwide receiver news, T Higgins said, I quote do

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Speaker 3: He's excited like everybody else is around the Raiders and

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and now his offensive coordinator from Green Bay,

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Speaker 5: See how he's feeling when garden shoes uh thrown past

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Speaker 5: But it's worth him to keep it for this year.

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Speaker 5: And if you're T Higgins, you could really make a

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Speaker 5: I'm with Joe Burrow, I've made I would have to

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Speaker 1: Ten million.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Greg's made more than that. All right, let's pause

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Speaker 3: in other news. The NFL, excuse me, extensions, the Eagles. Hey,

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Speaker 3: here's your guys. Slim Reaper Devanta Smith signs a three

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Speaker 4: It was as soon as I walked into my family's

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Speaker 7: When is this deal getting done?

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Speaker 1: Really? Like what a slice of Philly like.

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Speaker 7: It's so great to see you happy Easter.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a big deal.

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Speaker 7: Everyone wants to know. Everyone wanted to know.

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Speaker 4: Finally, they lock them in through twenty twenty eight, so

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Speaker 4: But this was really smart of Howie to get this

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Speaker 4: think that it'll be interesting to watch Kellen Moore, their

441
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Speaker 4: new offensive coordinator, what he does, if he does anything

442
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Speaker 4: different with Devonte Smith now coming up this season.

443
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Speaker 6: I mean the one thing there that is just coming

444
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Speaker 6: from last year's Eagles like fall off a cliff at

445
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Speaker 6: that was last year. I'm just saying because like one

446
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Speaker 6: of them you're not talking about last year, who seemed

447
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Speaker 6: more annoyed.

448
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Speaker 1: Aj Brown.

449
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Speaker 6: It seemed like was so annoyed, like game after game,

450
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Speaker 6: and it's like he has no guaranteed money after this season.

451
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Speaker 6: So you got these Juelian Banjo's a wide out, We'll

452
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Speaker 6: see it. By the one thing, elut to Forest Buckner, like,

453
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Speaker 6: the Colts are interesting and it's not shocking on a

454
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Speaker 6: Chris Belbert. They've signed now ten of their own players

455
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Speaker 6: to new deals, and by think Buckner is worth it.

456
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Speaker 6: You can he can drive around on a cream colored

457
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Speaker 6: purse for the rest of his Cults journey now with

458
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Speaker 6: the money he's just made. But like he's like, you know,

459
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Speaker 6: they just want to stick with their own dudes.

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Speaker 1: Oh their player. Yeah.

461
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Speaker 5: They also locked in Grover Stewart on that line, so

462
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Speaker 5: they've been good for a while together Green Color, and

463
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Speaker 5: they're staying the same.

464
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Speaker 1: No, you're right, it's a good choice in color.

465
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Speaker 5: It's a continuation of a cults trend. They resigned their

466
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Speaker 5: guys more than any team league, but the Eagles they do.

467
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Speaker 1: I know you're sick of hearing how No, I have

468
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Speaker 1: nothing to say on this. I'll offer nothing. My stance

469
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Speaker 1: has been made.

470
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Speaker 5: Clear because he technically had two years left on his contract,

471
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Speaker 5: so they got way ahead of it. He was in

472
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Speaker 5: he wants to make more money now because he was

473
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Speaker 5: in the fourth year of his Rickey deal, but then

474
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Speaker 5: they would add the fifth year option, and so they

475
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Speaker 5: tacked three years off of that and he gets way

476
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Speaker 5: more in the short term. But that contract goes through

477
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty eight. That's going to look like an incredible

478
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Speaker 5: value and he's probably not going to be very happy

479
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Speaker 5: with that contract in three years and they'll have to

480
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Speaker 5: revisit that. And that is it's just good business, and

481
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Speaker 5: it's how you avoid I'd get into this situation that

482
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Speaker 5: the Cowboys are in, or that the Jaguars were in

483
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Speaker 5: this offseason with Josh Allen, and that's why they couldn't

484
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Speaker 5: keep Calvin really, except in this case the players are

485
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Speaker 5: much better. I was thinking, Okay, it might be time

486
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Speaker 5: to say goodbye to AJ Brown at some point too.

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Speaker 1: It's like A J.

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Speaker 5: Brown's twenty six years How is AJ Brown only twenty

489
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Speaker 5: six years old right now?

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Speaker 7: So that's true?

491
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Speaker 1: Do you want to keep him from just for starters?

492
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Speaker 1: He was born twenty six years ago right now?

493
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Speaker 4: I love that for the but Greg, they have five

494
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Speaker 4: players under contract through twenty twenty eight, including Jalen Hurts

495
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Speaker 4: and then the other four guys that they already signed

496
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Speaker 4: this offseason with Landon Dickerson, Jake Elliott, Jordan Mylotta, and

497
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Speaker 4: now DeVante Smith.

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Speaker 3: I'm currently reading and enjoying it quite a bit. The

499
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Speaker 3: Jordan Rules by Sam Smith, documenting the.

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Speaker 6: Also rewatching the Jordan documentary Wormhole, Okay.

501
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Speaker 1: Wormhole in Focust.

502
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Speaker 3: The paperback that I got has a new forward by

503
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Speaker 3: Sam Smith where he reflects on the documentary and how

504
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Speaker 3: he was going to do it and the Bulls Dynasty.

505
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Speaker 5: Look at you, I found of Michael, I went and

506
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Speaker 5: showed Walker want to see I had some cards, some

507
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 5: old cards that were like my better football, basketball baseball cards.

508
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 5: Yesterday I went through. We went through because it's rainy

509
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Speaker 5: in La as always all that happens in La.

510
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Speaker 1: Now.

511
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we went through it, look through some old ones

512
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Speaker 5: to see if I have any bangers in there. A

513
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 5: whole bunch of a lot of money I wasted buying

514
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Speaker 5: cards back A lot of deep breaths. Had two good

515
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Speaker 5: cards in the entire thing. One of them was a

516
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Speaker 5: solid Jordan card that is valued around five hundred dollars

517
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Speaker 5: or so.

518
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Speaker 1: Is it in minute condition or is it? Probably not.

519
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Speaker 1: It's in one of those things that looks good.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's a terrible job by the youth version of you,

521
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Speaker 6: because even back then you knew you had.

522
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Speaker 5: To know it looks good. It's been in one of

523
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Speaker 5: those things the whole time. You think it looks good.

524
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Speaker 1: But if you take it to one of these nerdy cards,

525
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Speaker 1: I got a condition. It was different. Just saying that

526
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Speaker 1: was exciting to me to find this fleer Ale, I

527
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Speaker 1: don't remember. Yeah, what's your guy do?

528
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Speaker 3: My guy's a guy, he's a guy. That's connected at

529
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Speaker 3: the highest levels to the industry of what condition is

530
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Speaker 3: this in? How much is it worth?

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Speaker 1: Huh?

532
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Speaker 6: I hope it's not thro out there on YouTube that

533
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 6: opens up packs of cards from like nineteen ninety one Raiser.

534
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but eats the gum too. No, I introduced you

535
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Speaker 1: to that guy. Oh well, Chuck Wax. So it was fantastic. Yeah.

536
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 5: I was watching card which was not worth anything, but

537
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Speaker 5: you could see the gum staying on the card.

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Speaker 1: The gum was called gum sweat the dust. It's like

539
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Speaker 1: it already wasn't worth anything anyway. Jordan rules, I bring

540
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Speaker 1: this up. He happened to be there. Sam Smith.

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Speaker 3: He was a beat reporter for the Chicago Tribune who

542
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Speaker 3: happened to pick the perfect year to do.

543
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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm following this team and covering this player.

544
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Speaker 3: He picked Michael Jordan and the nineteen ninety one Chicago

545
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Speaker 3: Bulls that won the first of six titles. And even

546
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Speaker 3: though this came out thirty some odd years ago, at

547
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Speaker 3: this point it's still the same, which is, it's so

548
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: hard to manage rosters and manage egos, and everyone's paying

549
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Speaker 3: very close attention to not only how much they're making

550
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Speaker 3: in their contract situation, but their teammates and who's who

551
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Speaker 3: got what?

552
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Speaker 1: He got this, but I didn't get that.

553
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: Scottie Pippen dealt with this a lot because Jerry Kraus

554
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: locked him into a bad contract, the GM of the team.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I bring this up because not.

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Speaker 6: The only bad contract he locked into. Little tabloids take

557
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Speaker 6: there by Mark?

558
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Speaker 1: Is that a tap? Take? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Just go if you're listening and you care, go research

560
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Speaker 6: it on your own. We don't need to stop into it.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to interrupt. You love AJ Brown, who

562
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Speaker 6: you know, he's a guy that hasn't always been happy

563
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Speaker 6: on that team. Now Slim Reaper got the bag. That

564
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Speaker 6: could be an issue.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, folks, I am with you type.

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Speaker 4: Issue, but I also with Aj Brown. I feel like

567
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Speaker 4: he gets this rap for like not being happy. I

568
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Speaker 4: think that he just expresses it outwardly more than other people.

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Speaker 1: Won is it a rap? Whereas there's some evidence that he's.

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Speaker 4: There's plenty of evidence, but I think that he just

571
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Speaker 4: you know, I didn't up to voice his opinion.

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Speaker 5: I like what you're saying is there's a lot of

573
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Speaker 5: this and maybe there's a lot more passive aggressive people

574
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Speaker 5: in the build in or something that are more annoying,

575
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Speaker 5: and you'd actually rather the AJ guy.

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Speaker 7: You know, we are rather like exactly like process these feelings.

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Speaker 6: Let's not repress You're more optim mistic the normal about

578
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 6: the Eagles. Typically there's some doom and gloom or like

579
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Speaker 6: what's next around the corner. I tend to think something's

580
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 6: around the corner, right, I'm just throwing it out there. Yeah,

581
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Speaker 6: times change, sports change. The guys are always watching the

582
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Speaker 6: other guys, especially in their position group. All right, Connie,

583
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Speaker 6: you are going to Detroit for the draft. I am

584
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Speaker 6: What is your role within the company's structure?

585
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Speaker 7: A few different things.

586
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Speaker 4: I will be doing hosting DJ's mock draft the night

587
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Speaker 4: before night one, and then I'll be on site on

588
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 4: the desk doing some things night one and night two

589
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 4: for the network, and then I'll be on the stage

590
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Speaker 4: night one and night three.

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Speaker 7: I've never done Day.

592
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: Three before, and it looks like things get weird.

593
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Speaker 7: It looks like so much fun and there's gonna be puppies.

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00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 7: I was like, I would like to do Day three.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen prospects will be in attendance in Detroit for the drafts,

596
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Speaker 3: which begins Thursday. April twenty fifth. That seems like it's

597
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: a dwindling numbers still lowesting these is the lowest in years.

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Speaker 5: Since the monfl is inviting fewer, they've said, because they're

599
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Speaker 5: really trying to another way to.

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Speaker 1: Spin it bad.

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Speaker 6: But what about but what about all the like the

602
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Speaker 6: fashion business before and then in their show.

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Speaker 3: Here's here's what you need to know redcarpet. You want,

604
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Speaker 3: you want the big name, So number one pick Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: He'll be there.

606
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels, the QB from Els, he'll be there. Drake

607
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: May QB from UNC, he'll be there. Marvin Harrison Junior,

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00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: he'll be there.

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00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 7: So there are he didn't do anything either.

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Speaker 4: I love that he's going like he didn't test or

611
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Speaker 4: do anything at the combine.

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Speaker 7: I like that he's going to the draft.

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Speaker 1: We'll just wait at the finish line. Absolutely. But if

614
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Speaker 1: you're him angry, no, I mean I think it's he

615
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: didn't need to prove much. We know he's good.

616
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Speaker 3: Finally in the news, anything down about that draft next week,

617
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Speaker 3: that's a plug.

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00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy reportedly just didn't respond at all, so eventually

619
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Speaker 5: they had to take it back.

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Speaker 1: You as a potential future of the Patriots. Is that

621
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Speaker 1: a red flag for you? Is that la Raville Magnivi.

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Speaker 7: Now that is not ghosts.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little under concerned he left him on red

624
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Speaker 1: that was on the Yeah. Pro Football Talk wrote that.

625
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 5: The only notable player here was like Darius Robinson of Missouri.

626
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Speaker 5: It shows you what the NFL thinks in terms of

627
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 5: like that was a player that a lot of people

628
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Speaker 5: did not think. Where it's going in the first round

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Speaker 5: and he's one of the thirteen.

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Speaker 6: But are they reaching out to people to you don't

631
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Speaker 6: want him sitting there as the one of the one

632
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Speaker 6: guy out of thirteen that's not.

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Speaker 5: Well, they might have a higher opinion of where he

634
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Speaker 5: whoever they is, might have a higher opinion of where

635
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Speaker 5: he's going than like the consensus Centeville draft boards. So

636
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 5: that that name stuck out to me as like, wow,

637
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Speaker 5: he's he's going to be there because the rest you

638
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Speaker 5: expect to be top fifteen to twenty picks.

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Speaker 3: Finally, in the news, OJ Simpson is dead, the former

640
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: running back legendary Bills running back who later became a

641
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: figure that went well beyond football, died at seventy six

642
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: years old after about with cancer, and I think it's

643
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Speaker 3: worthy that even though this happened a few days ago,

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Speaker 3: it didn't line up with our show release. I think

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00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: it's where they we talk about for a couple of reasons.

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Speaker 3: First of all, this around the NFL and OJ Simpson

647
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Speaker 3: as a football player was one of the most.

648
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Speaker 1: Popular and beloved players in the history of the league.

649
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Speaker 3: He ran for two thousand yards, the first guy to

650
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Speaker 3: ever do that in a fourteen game season. And we

651
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Speaker 3: have a lot of listeners that are either a too

652
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Speaker 3: young to know what went down in the mid nineties

653
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Speaker 3: around O. J. Simpson or or not from this country

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Speaker 3: and don't understand what O. J. Simpson and the murder

655
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: case and the subsequent trial, what that was about in

656
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Speaker 3: this country, and that became the biggest story really of

657
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Speaker 3: the nineteen nineties. And when they talk about trial of

658
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Speaker 3: the century, you hear that thrown up around a lot,

659
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Speaker 3: but that really was the trial of the century and

660
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: everything around it. So the idea marked that OJ now

661
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: is gone thirty years after he was acquitted of that

662
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: double is certainly a noteworthy and was a major figure.

663
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: And like where we are ages, yes, you know, we

664
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: have a totally different outlook and viewpoint on everything. So

665
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: now that he's gone thirty years later, it's pretty wild.

666
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 6: I'll just hit like a couple, like you know, this

667
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 6: was one of the more personal news stories because it

668
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 6: was as like cable television was becoming like the thing.

669
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 6: And I'll never forget I really wanted to be a

670
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 6: journalist back then and be in sports. And it's kind

671
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 6: of forgotten that when it happened during the Knicks, he

672
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 6: knicks like rockets car chase, right, the car chase is

673
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 6: unfolding that in La. There were people once it kind

674
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 6: of got going lined up on the streets with like

675
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 6: poster board signage I'm supporting, Like everyone just thought that

676
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 6: OJ was under duress and probably fine, and then like.

677
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: The choice is loose and things like that.

678
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, and this was like a twenty four hour a

679
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 6: day news story which was interrupted for nothing and they

680
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 6: had to throw it at one point from a sports

681
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 6: angle to Bob Costas, who was covering the NBA coverage,

682
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 6: and you guy, I had hours and hours and hours

683
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 6: of tape of OJ in like fun OJ mode back

684
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 6: when he hosted NFL Live with Bob Costas.

685
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: They became very good friends.

686
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 6: This is this is weird, but I was actually working

687
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 6: at that summer camp during all this, and I was

688
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 6: home when all of the chase happened, camp happens, I

689
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 6: went back to work.

690
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: I went back to work, but I had and i'll

691
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: I have two little more things.

692
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 6: But like I had this phone card because back then

693
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 6: you just you know, I had the pay phone there

694
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 6: and my friend Peter Acton back in like watching the news.

695
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 6: I would call him for like an hour a day

696
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 6: to get updates on what was happening with the trials

697
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 6: for the rest of the summer.

698
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: And I never got charged on this card I called

699
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: the magic card. And then I was going to American University.

700
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 6: The following special was like I made hundreds of hours

701
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 6: of calls and I went to American University. And fast

702
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 6: forward one year when the on October third, nineteen ninety five,

703
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 6: when the verdict came down, and there were people there

704
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 6: was like we could think we know what's going to happen,

705
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 6: but we don't. And I was in this gigantic student

706
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 6: center and the verdict came down and it was a

707
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 6: show falcking verdict and then the lights went out in

708
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 6: the student center and it was like a windowless gigantic

709
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 6: conference type room. And like the lights went out, went

710
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 6: down with hundreds of people in there, screaming, shouting, and

711
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 6: it was like a totally pitch dark room the world.

712
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: That's what I remember that. Then a week later I.

713
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 6: Got a bill that channeled from like at and T

714
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 6: back to my parents' house and they sent it to me,

715
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 6: and it was like for about fourteen hundred dollars in

716
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 6: phone charges that I was being charged for two years later,

717
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 6: sows I digress. But there was a lot of weird

718
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 6: moments back then because people tracked this story like no

719
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Speaker 6: other story.

720
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Speaker 1: The bill always comes, it comes due, and it can't

721
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Speaker 1: do sort of not really for him.

722
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Speaker 5: That documentary the five parter oj made in America, Oh

723
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 5: my god.

724
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: Got to check it out if you're curious about this.

725
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 5: It was so good, so good, and it was great

726
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 5: perspective for us or for for me about everything before that. Yes,

727
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 5: about who he was and what he you know, and

728
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 5: I knew him more as like the guy from the

729
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 5: Naked Gun more than anything. I mean, I knew he

730
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 5: was like an NFL great, but that puts it on

731
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 5: perspective in the perspective of the country. It's one of

732
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Speaker 5: the best documentaries I've ever seen.

733
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 3: That's how I look back at it now as an

734
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: older person, as a fourteen fifteen year old, when it

735
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: happened three thousand miles away in the suburbs of New York,

736
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: like it just it looked like it couldn't have been

737
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: a more open and shut case. This was a man

738
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: that was a horrific abuser of his wife and there

739
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: was a mountain of evidence. It's like, obviously he's guilty.

740
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: But it turned out how the long shadow of Rodney

741
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: King in this city and how that came to directly

742
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: connect to this case and the lack of justice for

743
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: Rodney King, and how that impacted the black community, King

744
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: and his family, how that then led to in the

745
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 3: opinion of many, Nicole Brown and Ronald Golden not getting

746
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: justice because of the way the anger that's still in

747
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 3: the lack of trust around the LAPD.

748
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: It was.

749
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: You learned so much about the country and the issues

750
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: that are part of this country since we started, how

751
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: it went on so for our generation Rodney King and

752
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: OJ or for what a younger generation with George Floyd

753
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: was about, where it's like, wow, this is continues to

754
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 3: be a big part of what our country is about,

755
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: and it's underneath everything, and it's you know, it was

756
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: as big as it get. It's the biggest story of

757
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 3: our lifetime really, I mean outside maybe nine to eleven obviously.

758
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was nine when all of that was happening,

759
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 4: so I didn't have First of all, I didn't have

760
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 4: a great frame of reference as far as Oj as

761
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 4: like the player, like Greg mentioned, I was.

762
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 7: I knew that he was a legendary figure. I had

763
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 7: watched him in like commercials and movies and stuff like that.

764
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 4: But for me, just like looking back on everything, it

765
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 4: just feels so gross how a double murder became pop

766
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: culture and like for so many people.

767
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 7: And it just had a life of its own.

768
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: I also was.

769
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 5: Taken just that he was this figure that was, you know,

770
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 5: because of what he did and in the trial was

771
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 5: a larger than life in a way that's hard to describe.

772
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: And yet here he is when he dies, and it.

773
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 5: Is just really interesting to hear the like sort of

774
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 5: the different reactions the Pro Football Hall of Fame. You know,

775
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 5: you can still go and you can look at OJ

776
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 5: Simpson's bus. It's up there. They flew their flag at

777
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 5: half mass for OJ Simpson. They released the statement just

778
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 5: about his life. Didn't mention the trials in the statement

779
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 5: the Buffalo Bills. You know who he's really associated with,

780
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 5: didn't say anything, you know, didn't didn't really statement, they

781
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 5: didn't do anything. His name is still up there though

782
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 5: you go to the stadium, it's up there in the

783
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 5: wall of fame. So and I don't even have like

784
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 5: a judgment or like a hot take on that. It's

785
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 5: just it's kind of crazy to think that all these

786
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 5: years later and then that a lot of the reaction

787
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 5: I feel like to him Dine was like silence at

788
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 5: least from the people, like from organizations and stuff. I

789
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 5: don't think there is a right answer, but it was

790
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 5: interesting to see how different places approached.

791
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: Him and the thirty years just to kind of underline

792
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: it thirty years after, like you know, the frustration for

793
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: many people. So he got away with it, but like

794
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: also to know a little more like who oj was.

795
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: He was such a gregarious, outgoing personality that everyone loved.

796
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 3: He was, you know, maybe the first black athlete in

797
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: this country who was kind of accepted in like corporate America.

798
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: Madison Avenue. For him to live in this like purgatory

799
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: for the last thirty years and be seen by many

800
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: as a villain and a ghoul. He would he ran

801
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 3: away from the civil judgment, ended up going to Vegas

802
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: to escape that in Florida escape having to pay the

803
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: Goldman and Brown families. But he kind of led the

804
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: rest of his life as a you know, kind of

805
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: a grotesque curiosity to people. And while I don't think

806
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: that's true justice, I think that for him, that probably

807
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 3: was a pretty terrible way to end the rest of

808
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 3: his days. So Oj Simpson, seventy six years old, let's

809
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: take a break, right, Welcome back. So, yes, the draft

810
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: is coming up in a week and a half and

811
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: we're trying to give you every angle on this thing.

812
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: We're going to have more experts in the field a

813
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 3: little later in the week, but from our vantage point,

814
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 3: let's talk about some guys as we're doing the research

815
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 3: that we're fascinated by.

816
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Speaker 1: That's how I think that's powerful. In fact, this segment

817
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: is called.

818
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Speaker 3: I Love Them Fascinating Players of the twenty twenty four

819
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 3: NFL Draft, and that is the voice of Mark Sessler.

820
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 3: He was referring to wide receiver Lad McConkey, but that's

821
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 3: not where Mark is going here.

822
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: So let's start it out with the sess doog. Who's

823
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: got you fascinated?

824
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 6: I wanted to go defense because we've focused on a

825
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 6: lot of qbs in the top ten picks here, and

826
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 6: there's probab building like one defensive guy in there, and

827
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 6: a bunch of wide receivers. I started to look at

828
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 6: edge rushers and Florida State's Jared Verse six foot four,

829
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 6: two hundred and fifty four pounds, he just looks like

830
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 6: an old school football.

831
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: Say that again. I'm writing the six y four no No.

832
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: His name Jared Verse, Jared v E R s E.

833
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: I love him, Senior. This guy just why.

834
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Speaker 6: There's one clip that I'll like I will send out

835
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 6: at some point where he bull rushes like a three

836
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 6: hundred and twenty pound left tackle when they were playing

837
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 6: Louisville and like basically like takes this guy and throws

838
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 6: him like a child back and back on his feet

839
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 6: and finds a way to shove the three hundred and

840
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 6: twenty pound left tackle into the quarterback, grabs both of them,

841
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 6: throws him to the ground.

842
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: And he's doing this all the time.

843
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 6: I know that he's not looked at the number one

844
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 6: as the number one edge guy right now, But I

845
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 6: think he's a total punisher. He is just intensity, he's

846
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 6: got speed, he gets around tackles that with these traits,

847
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 6: Like there's moments when he's sacking like a quarterback. Sometimes

848
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 6: you see guys that need to use if they're smaller,

849
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 6: they're a quarnerback, they need us their body at full force.

850
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 6: He's able to use his hands just to drag guys

851
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 6: to the ground. And I think that you look at

852
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 6: like quarterbacks over and over on some of these clips,

853
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 6: he's coming from the blind side and he destroys them

854
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 6: and the ball is separated from them. They're thrown to earth,

855
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 6: and I think it changes the game. And I think

856
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 6: that he could go right away become one of the

857
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 6: more terrifying guys at the position if he can stay

858
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 6: healthy and pick up from him.

859
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Speaker 3: He is ranked fourteenth in the Daniel Jeremiah most recent

860
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: NFL Draft prospect.

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Speaker 7: And the second best edge rusher, right behind Dallas Turner.

862
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 7: A lot of people have them one and two.

863
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 6: I think that depends what teams how they would want

864
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 6: to use them, because I watched a little Turner, but

865
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Speaker 6: Jared versus just more of my type.

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Speaker 1: Of play, and I think that.

867
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Speaker 3: It's going to be very interesting how this first round

868
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: plays out because all of the top ten really is

869
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 3: going to be dominated by offensive players. So when does

870
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: that defensive run start. Who's the first team to take

871
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: a defensive player? We will see if Verse now the

872
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: Falcons as an example, Yeah, they have not had a

873
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 3: premium edge rusher of notes since Johnbraham, So maybe he

874
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 3: he fits that in Mold, but there are many teams,

875
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 3: In fact, most teams looking for a big time edge.

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00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: Rusher, and Verse might fit the book.

877
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, he seems like a complicated one because he's he

878
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 5: wins by his strength and mine's connected.

879
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just transition to it. I love Liatu

880
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: latu damn. Probably like you know what, sorry.

881
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 5: Content Census Sports might be the third defensive end or

882
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 5: third edge guy, which seems a little shocking to meet Verse.

883
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: He's exciting.

884
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 5: He's actually the type of guy I usually like, which

885
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 5: it's like it's all about strength, but it's a little

886
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 5: worries So when it's when you're two hundred and fifty

887
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 5: pounds and you're all about strength, like, is that kinna work?

888
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: Like? Maybe not?

889
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 5: As Like he's also twenty three years old, so's a

890
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 5: lot to but lotsu story is just so crazy that

891
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 5: he literally really could have played in the Premiership for

892
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 5: professional rugby, thought about it that he was that good,

893
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 5: decided not to do it. Probably is getting taken so

894
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 5: late because he had to medically retire for a year

895
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 5: because of a neck injury that knocked him out, So

896
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 5: he was out of football for two entire years. And

897
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 5: so I get it that maybe you're not going to

898
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 5: go in the top five or the top ten because

899
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 5: of the medical issues. But when you just watch him,

900
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 5: he just seems like he's the best defensive player in

901
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 5: the draft. It seems insane to me, Like the types

902
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 5: of moves that he has is like, and he's twenty

903
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 5: three years old, so's first, they're both a little older

904
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 5: in terms of prospects, so you want him to be

905
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 5: a little more refined or whatever. But it's just like

906
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 5: a walking pass rush like led the college football in

907
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 5: pass rush win rate, like does everything.

908
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: He just looks like to me, like a TJ.

909
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 5: Watt, Maybe not as explosive, but just like that he

910
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 5: would step in there and I'm almost surprised, But who am.

911
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: I Like, Yeah, I look at Greg Roosendal. Damn it,

912
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: I get it, But I look at like the beast.

913
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 5: Dane Brugler is great on the athletic and he has

914
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 5: him third and he has him as a below verse

915
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 5: as like a late first or to a seven typeic.

916
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 5: So maybe I'm totally off base, but I look at him,

917
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 5: it's like, that's the guy I freaking want. He looks

918
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 5: incredible to me. And it's just the injury thing, which

919
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 5: you know you're gonna be worried about. But he was

920
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 5: on a recruiting staff in Washington where it was him

921
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 5: the top three recruits was Pukinakua, Trent McDuffie and him.

922
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 5: It's like, okay, they went two for two. I feel

923
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 5: like it's gonna be three for three. But he might

924
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 5: end up being the third guy.

925
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 4: And taken after the way that he passed Rushes, like,

926
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 4: it's not just speed, it's so much skill that he has.

927
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 4: And at his size, what he's six ' five to

928
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: sixty five, he moves like such a smaller player, almost

929
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 4: like a like a wide receiver kind of does. And yeah,

930
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 4: he won two rugby national championships. I actually talked to

931
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 4: him when he was on Great.

932
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: You mentioned him on this show. I think once, yeah,

933
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: he took him for was it on?

934
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 5: I would not either, Yeah, it would have been How

935
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 5: would I have Notell Nuggets?

936
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: I watch every Colleen episode, so I.

937
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 7: Knew obviously, Oh yeah, yeah.

938
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: Butthing what else happened on that episode? Laughs were had

939
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: and analysis was a plenty.

940
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 7: That's that's a great descriptor that's good.

941
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 4: But yeah, the fact that he was told he would

942
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 4: never play football again after suffering that neck injury at

943
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 4: Washington and then he was cleared by u c l

944
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 4: A won Pac twelve Defensive Player of the Year last season.

945
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 7: He's sixteenth on Daniel.

946
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 4: Jeremiah's big board, like he is a Bob Marley fan,

947
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: So there's no character concerns there.

948
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 7: Well, it might be other concerns, not for me if

949
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 7: I'm the GM.

950
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 5: There was a little sprinkling of like, is is this

951
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 5: a little sprinkling out there of like.

952
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 6: Not that?

953
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: How much is this guy of football? I was like,

954
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: how much more do you want him to love football?

955
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 5: He literally was told like he shouldn't ever play again

956
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 5: because of a neck injury, and he decides to pass

957
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 5: up pro rugby too. It's like that's the ultimate you

958
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 5: love football. True, don't love the neck. Don't love a

959
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 5: neck injury.

960
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: That's concerning, But he didn't way two years.

961
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, no injuries and he's been medically cleared.

962
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: And I'll use an example.

963
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: You could there are many examples in the past with

964
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: players that come out of college with injury question marks

965
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: and it leads to them fall a little bit down

966
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: the board, and then you go and you grab them

967
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: and you might end up with Rob Gronkowski in a

968
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 3: good case, or you could end up with I don't know,

969
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: d Milner in a bad case.

970
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: You just it's a bit of a gamble that you take.

971
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 3: And he would count, I would think as a gamble there,

972
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: but certainly has a skill set and the desire right.

973
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: Polynesian Football Player of the Year. I like those dude.

974
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: Those guys are built tough, all Asians. They almost it's

975
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: fun to men too when men were men. Whatever happened

976
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: to Gary Cooper?

977
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 5: But check out Polynesia that's been directed when it was

978
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 5: in Hawaii, happened to have stayed at a house that

979
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 5: was less than a mile away from the Polynesian.

980
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. No way, it just it felt like, you.

981
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 6: Know, so, I'm all about ball so you went like

982
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 6: this said, such an easy hop, skip and a jump

983
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 6: to go visit it.

984
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: I sort of did. I did, actually, but not on purpose.

985
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: On some level.

986
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 5: We went and there was just like a variety of

987
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 5: stores and shaved ice and some food in the same

988
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 5: complex that it was a put since we were there. Yeah,

989
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 5: took a spin through the rock. Inductee of the twenty twenty.

990
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 5: You gotta put in Johnson, Gotta put in Johnson.

991
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 4: You see baiscahamma in there probably was I'm to put

992
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: gotta put him in. Yeah, all right, Conda Europe right there? Uh,

993
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 4: Terry On Arnold, I love I'd wait it out.

994
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 5: Or maybe he was just like the their player of

995
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 5: the year. I I don't even remember. I'm just kidding

996
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 5: Dolphins fans, Jesus, all.

997
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 4: Right, this guy's not going in the Polynesian Hall of Fame.

998
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 4: Terry On Arnold love him cornerback front. I love Alabama.

999
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: He he's really good, really talented.

1000
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: I'd just say one second, damn it, we want to

1001
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: interrupt it is It is a char to speak on

1002
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 3: this show, But can I just say, Mark, the reason

1003
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 3: one of the reasons I love you is I don't

1004
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: know too many people that.

1005
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: Can I hear that again. You can interrupt all you

1006
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: want if you're going on this road. Yeah, let's hear it.

1007
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: I love him that that's that that tone, I sound

1008
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: like a child, you sound like someone that's that's a

1009
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 3: sensitive that's coming from a real place.

1010
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 6: Well it was, it was after a moment of trying

1011
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 6: to passion. You kind of were like, in a playful way,

1012
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 6: ribbing me because of he's not Polynesian either.

1013
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: No, well he got Zack Xenter All Star.

1014
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 7: Yeah and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good. We're all

1015
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 7: good now you sure we got it all out?

1016
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: Okay, good.

1017
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 7: So let me tell you about Terry on Arnold.

1018
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: I apologize. I love him. God, I'm done leave it.

1019
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 4: So I would say Arian Arnold has the absolute best

1020
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 4: personality in the entire draft, and I will die on

1021
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 4: that hill, like I don't even it's close. He is

1022
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 4: to me a total showman, but he doesn't try. He

1023
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 4: is unintentionally so funny. And then on top of it,

1024
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: he has almost Dion vibes, like he's really good, and

1025
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 4: he has this like confidence that doesn't come off as

1026
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 4: like rubbing you the wrong way either. It's like a

1027
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 4: very special charismatic way he has about him and I've

1028
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 4: listened to so many interviews with him. We also had

1029
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 4: him on Good Morning Football and he I wish that

1030
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 4: we could have talked to him for all three hours

1031
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 4: because he was just such a fun hang like, he

1032
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 4: was really really cool. He's been rising up draft boards

1033
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 4: and honestly common man rankings too, right, because he spent

1034
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 4: summers working with his granddad at a roofing company all

1035
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 4: over North Florida's you're talking about like Florida in the summer.

1036
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 4: He said that he learned discipline, structure, consistency, persistence, and

1037
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: that he didn't want to be a roofer, so he

1038
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 4: was like, I am all in on football.

1039
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 7: He is also like just really easy.

1040
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 5: Second place in terms of workplace fatalities as a preferred danger.

1041
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 7: Survived.

1042
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what, that just goes to show

1043
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 4: you that he's someone who will take risks and he

1044
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 4: is responsible and he has maybe faced some adversity and

1045
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 4: gotten through it.

1046
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 7: But he's also super easy to root for.

1047
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 4: Max Preps put out this tweet that he went back

1048
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 4: to his high school to give his janitor this Christmas gift,

1049
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 4: which was his jersey because his janitor had asked him

1050
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 4: when he was in high school to give him his jersey,

1051
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 4: and he thought that like the janitor maybe forgot, So

1052
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 4: he went back and visited the school, visited his janitor,

1053
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 4: brought some gifts for him for Christmas. Like he seems

1054
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 4: like a really great, good, fun, genuine guy. He comes

1055
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 4: from a good, big family, he said, taught him to

1056
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 4: kind of like never be late because if you're late,

1057
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 4: then like you got your last pick in terms of

1058
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 4: like the resources and dinner and.

1059
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 7: Seats and like whatever else house.

1060
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: I know exactly.

1061
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 7: I was actually thinking about Wes when he was talking

1062
00:49:59,040 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 7: about it.

1063
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: Although wrestling mother would just toss the steak down the steps, right.

1064
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 7: Down the basement. Yeah, yeah, I don't think that.

1065
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: Tied to a brick here to a brick Africa. Well,

1066
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: I'm freeg by this person. We should get them, get

1067
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: them on the show.

1068
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 7: You should, Oh my gosh, you guys would love them.

1069
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 5: Will Will either be the first or likely the second cornerback,

1070
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 5: taking either him or Bunya and Mitchell from Leo ran

1071
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 5: a little bit of a slow forty I think had yeah,

1072
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 5: but I think he seems concerned a little bit those

1073
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 5: Alabama guys, though not to paint with a brad brush.

1074
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: They just seem like they come out as like pros.

1075
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Well they're like they'll come in as pros

1076
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, very realized. I agree with that.

1077
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 6: I think I'll you watch his tapes stealing with like

1078
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 6: LSU have the time in like real schools. Like he's

1079
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 6: he played top competition and like he had what seventeen

1080
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 6: passes defense like five picks, Like he's a rugged dude.

1081
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't miss tackles. Anybody been up on a roof lately?

1082
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: But see truck drivers, Greg, I think there's a lot

1083
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: of face.

1084
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 5: I was wrong as they fall asleep, Like if you

1085
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 5: all asleep on a roof, that's not just inherently dangerous.

1086
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 5: Time logging dogging workers is actually already even higher roofers

1087
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 5: Number two been up on.

1088
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: A roof lately?

1089
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 3: No, not lately, Oh yeah about once every six months

1090
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: or so every year around Chris, the gutters, what are

1091
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: you doing? Not a gutter's issue because we don't have

1092
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 3: a tree above the property. But I do have Christmas

1093
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: lights I put up. I also I had to go

1094
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: up there to put the uh you have to put

1095
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: the it's like a cage you put on top of

1096
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: the chimney. Yeah, And if you want to get an

1097
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 3: idea of your how fragile your mortality is, get up

1098
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 3: on the roof and you realize immediately I have like

1099
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: a twenty percent chance to die right now.

1100
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: This is how it's gonna happen coast when you'd have

1101
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: to go shovel snow off your What am I doing

1102
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: up here? This is extremely dangerous. Happened to Gary.

1103
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 6: Maybe Clemson will send you a second football for this

1104
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 6: handiwork that you're that you've successfully pulled off.

1105
00:51:59,200 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: Now what's on the radar?

1106
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 4: And I was in high school. The room that I

1107
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 4: had in the house that I grew up in had

1108
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 4: like it was in the back of the house. It

1109
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 4: was the only one and there was like a little

1110
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 4: bit of roof and there.

1111
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 7: Was a fence all to the side. It was the

1112
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 7: escape patch.

1113
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 4: And it was also like a meeting spot, so like

1114
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 4: people like it was like people would come and visit

1115
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 4: me at the window, hair knocking on my window.

1116
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that how the boy that was holding onto

1117
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: your car as you drove away?

1118
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 7: No, that was college.

1119
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: I have one.

1120
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: But here listen, you don't want to hear from me

1121
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 3: you want to hear from someone who watch and loves it.

1122
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: He lives and breathes it.

1123
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 3: Caved, He's a little bit, he's a wild card, but

1124
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: he will give you information that is sometimes just spot on.

1125
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 3: So I put a call out to the west side

1126
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 3: of Cincinnati and track down Brad Spice, known.

1127
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 6: As the spice Rack pepper Mill out there. He's not

1128
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 6: gonna be happy with that, a spiceler Spicer, but you've

1129
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 6: given him a nickna. Potentially he gets it. Spice Rack.

1130
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 6: Let's hear from the great Brad Spicer.

1131
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 8: Hey there, everybody. Dan Hansen wants me to introduce myself

1132
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 8: as if you don't already know Son, it's the.

1133
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 5: Spice Rack.

1134
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: Off the Mount Patty video is a choice, all right,

1135
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: Zeus wants.

1136
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 8: Me to give you three videos, three names, but you

1137
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 8: know what I'm coming with, seven names, deal with it.

1138
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 8: My first guy's Quinon Mitchell. Never heard of him quite

1139
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 8: honestly before two months ago.

1140
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: But he's a.

1141
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 8: First round corner, like a mid first rounder, a corner

1142
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 8: from the Mid American conference.

1143
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 9: The one thing I did was I looked up to

1144
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 9: see if he's like sixty.

1145
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 8: Four or something, and he's a project. Then it's okay,

1146
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 8: maybe he could bust, but he's six foot. I saw

1147
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 8: that he has long arms, but six foot one ninety,

1148
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 8: he's not a physical specimen the Saint Sauce gardener. But

1149
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 8: if you if you're gonna go mid first is a

1150
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 8: corner from the Mid American Conference.

1151
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 9: You got my vote.

1152
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 4: I know.

1153
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 9: You're gonna have a serious chip on your shoulder. Once

1154
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 9: a walk on, always walk on.

1155
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 8: You know, Baker Mayfield walked on at Texas Tech and Oklahoma,

1156
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 8: and uh, while not the best quarterback, certainly someone you

1157
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 8: can go to war with.

1158
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 7: There's seven of these.

1159
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 9: I don't know. I don't know if this one went

1160
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 9: too long, don't edit me.

1161
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 5: That ends strong, except for the forty five second detour

1162
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 5: to Baker, which sort of seemed to disprove his point.

1163
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 3: Toledo cornerback Quinion Mitchell from I call this spice channel.

1164
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 3: By the way, this is a that's good. Yeah, so

1165
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: we just threw it to spice channel. It's a ring

1166
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: to it, which you know, if you know, you know

1167
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 3: one of those things.

1168
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 5: I'm with Spicy on the logic though, to be to

1169
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 5: be that small and from Toledo, and he I think

1170
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 5: he's going to be the first cornerback I think he's

1171
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 5: likely to be.

1172
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: You have to be an incredible, incredible player. Let's take

1173
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: a break and we'll go through another round.

1174
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 7: Welcome back to draft Corner.

1175
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: Very nice, good really on the spots.

1176
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: You're a broadcaster, That's what it is. All right, let's

1177
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 3: go around the horn again. We've heard from everyone in

1178
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 3: the room. I deferred to Spice Rack, who I thought

1179
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 3: it was a pretty good start. Great start, Yeah, great start.

1180
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 3: The Spice channel is up and running here on atn Mark.

1181
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 3: Let's hear somebody else.

1182
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 6: Here is someone that I know someone else in the

1183
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 6: room has a fascination with two in Greg Cooper Dejan

1184
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 6: cornerback from Iowa.

1185
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: I love him.

1186
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 6: This dude is interesting, Like I'm not sure where he'll go.

1187
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 6: I'm thinking kind of like something. I think the Colts

1188
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 6: are a good target in the mid mid first round.

1189
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: Is that a Is that a little Mark Sessler mock

1190
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: draftees right there? It might be coming up next week.

1191
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: It might be he is.

1192
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 6: I just think he is like an incredible athlete that

1193
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 6: does all sorts of stuff in today's NFL.

1194
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: He also offers incredible return skills. But I just want

1195
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: to read this.

1196
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 6: Nick Bonggardner from The Athletic went and kind of did

1197
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 6: a feature on this guy, and I just want to

1198
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 6: read the opening paragraph.

1199
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear.

1200
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 6: This pulled me in in western Iowa along State Highway

1201
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 6: one seventy five sits a town of about nine hundred people.

1202
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 6: There's a bowling alley and a drive in restaurant. Ode Bolt, Iowa,

1203
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 6: is named after a Frenchman who lived alone more than

1204
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 6: one hundred years ago along the creek that runs through

1205
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 6: the village. It once was known but apparently no longer

1206
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 6: holds the crown as the popcorn center of the world.

1207
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 6: It's about seventy miles away from both the Missouri River

1208
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 6: and absolutely nothing. It's also home to a unique prospect

1209
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 6: in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft, Iowa defensive back

1210
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 6: Cooper Degene. If you watch this guy, I just would

1211
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 6: believe this is kind of like I just want on

1212
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 6: my team. If it's like I know this, the Steelers

1213
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 6: want to go get Conky of cornerbacks, but the.

1214
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: Steelers gonna get him or the Ravens or something. But

1215
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: he is.

1216
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 6: He is so fun to watch and I get it,

1217
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 6: like cornerbacks are just thorough coming to like different shapes

1218
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 6: and sizes. But I don't know if he's if he's

1219
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 6: necessarily like big enough, strong enough, or has the movement

1220
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 6: skills in some ways, like the lateral movement to do

1221
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 6: what he needs to do. But I see evidence of

1222
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 6: a guy who can contribute in a lot of different ways.

1223
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 5: I think he does, and I think, uh, you gotta

1224
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 5: look yourself in the mirror. But I think people will

1225
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 5: immediately be like, Oh, is he gonna move to safety?

1226
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 5: He played nickel. It's like this guy was one of

1227
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 5: the most explosive playmaking cornerbacks in college football for for years.

1228
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 5: In the first your first instincts, though, maybe move him

1229
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 5: to safety. Look at the mirror, bro a little profile,

1230
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 5: a little profilely going on with Cooper Dizinees.

1231
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1232
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 7: I listen to one little thing to John every time

1233
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 7: I see his name, I.

1234
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 6: Know one little thing like this is the kind of

1235
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 6: athlete is like He scored over eighteen hundred points in

1236
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 6: basketball in high school through seventy eight touchdowns as a quarterback,

1237
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 6: won a state title in track in the one hundred

1238
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 6: meters dash, and in baseball was a.

1239
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: Pitcher who had like a two hitters a year. He

1240
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: never stopped playing sports.

1241
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 5: Reminds me a little of Kyle Hamilton. I feel like

1242
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 5: there's some guys in every draft. It's like that every

1243
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 5: that the that the NL overthinks like that everyone agrees

1244
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 5: on is great and then for some reason goes for

1245
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 5: Aaron Donald was kind of one of those guys.

1246
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is crazy. I didn't everybody knows. You don't

1247
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 3: see a lot of white quarterbacks in the league. Not

1248
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 3: since Jason Seahorn, who retired in two thousand and three,

1249
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 3: has there been a white quarterback who consistently played the position.

1250
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: And could he be a first rounder? Is he? Yes?

1251
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: I think they're sea Horn was the second rounder, so

1252
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: that profile would indicate he'd be a very high pick.

1253
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: And I think you will. He'll be around her, but

1254
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: you know he's getting him out.

1255
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 6: The appults over and over Cooper dejene Iowa cornerback Gregy.

1256
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 5: Okay, it's a tough choice. Powers seems like one of

1257
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 5: those guys everyone's overthinking too. I feel like we're gonna

1258
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 5: hit Drake May so hard, and I love Drake May

1259
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 5: and so in terms of just having that feeling that

1260
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 5: Mark has about that's me and Drake that the Patriots.

1261
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 5: But for this assignment, I think Michael Pennox is a

1262
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 5: better choice because he's just I love him, fascinating prospect,

1263
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 5: like a guy who was, you know, in college forever

1264
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 5: like six years. I mean, it's a little outrageous how

1265
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 5: long he was in college. So I get that he's

1266
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 5: older than everyone, but incredibly consistent and the type of

1267
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 5: guy that I feel like, if it was two thousand

1268
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 5: and five, would maybe be the first or the second quarterback.

1269
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 5: And we're just like looking for different things now, like

1270
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 5: just throwing the ball, and I know he's built very

1271
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 5: different and.

1272
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: There's a million things that are different.

1273
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 5: It almost reminds me of like Carson Palmer when he

1274
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 5: came out and just people were just like, my god,

1275
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 5: look at that and throw a football like this man

1276
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 5: was born to throw a football.

1277
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: And that's Michael Pennix, except he's a lefty.

1278
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 5: And I was expecting, because of all the knocks on

1279
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 5: him and why he's not gonna necessarily go in the

1280
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 5: first round or everything, that he'd be a total stiff.

1281
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: But he's not. Like he can move.

1282
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 5: He can make throws on the run, and I do

1283
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 5: think all the negatives that he has, Like you saw

1284
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 5: him in the college football semi final dispel all that

1285
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 5: and people can say, well, that was one game, but

1286
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 5: it's like, if you can do that in one game

1287
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 5: and you have NFL training and we you know you

1288
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 5: have that potential. It's the kind of how people overthought

1289
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 5: c J. Stroud last year, saying like he doesn't do

1290
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 5: enough playmaking. He's like you saw in that one game.

1291
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's c J.

1292
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: Stroud.

1293
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 5: I just think like leadership, mental toughness, all the intangibles

1294
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 5: are supposedly off the charts, and he's a guy who

1295
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 5: just I think if you asked all thirty two gms,

1296
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 5: just like in the pocket, who throws the craziest ball

1297
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 5: down the field, the furthest the prettiest, It's Michael Pennix.

1298
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 5: And so to me, I'm just curious, like what kind

1299
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 5: of career he's gonna have because he just feels like

1300
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 5: he's he's boom or bust. But if he ends up

1301
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 5: on a team like the Raiders, he could be playing

1302
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 5: right right away. And he just seems like a fascinating guy.

1303
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 5: And maybe they're seeing things that I don't see. And

1304
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 5: I know he's a little erratic with the accuracy here

1305
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 5: and there, but for the most part, like seems like

1306
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 5: he's got what you would want.

1307
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 6: He fits the Raiders, and I just don't care if

1308
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 6: he's like a year older than someone else, like if

1309
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 6: he's good for five years, like the Raiders have been

1310
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 6: waiting for that for an eon and plus.

1311
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: So what's like, It's that I don't I know that

1312
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: we make so much such a big deal out of that.

1313
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 5: And there's that advantage because it's is it the last

1314
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 5: COVID year where you got that extra year that you

1315
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 5: could just stay because he's surprised people. He could have

1316
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 5: come out last year. He'd already played five years and

1317
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 5: he decided to come back.

1318
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: So we talked about injuries. Yeah, his injuries. It's so

1319
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: he he had four season.

1320
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 3: Ending injuries at Indiana, four before he transferred to Washington.

1321
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: So let me listen the games.

1322
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 3: You go up a level and the guys get bigger

1323
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 3: and faster, and you you get older, and he's not

1324
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 3: Brandon weed and old. But he turns twenty four next month,

1325
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 3: So that would be that would spook me, honestly more

1326
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 3: than anything else like that. That's that's a real concern

1327
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 3: of this durability at that position.

1328
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, in a world where Mac Jones went fifteenth,

1329
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 5: like what this guy isn't gonna go top fifteen.

1330
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 6: Go watch him with Romans INSI because like the two

1331
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 6: of them we talked about this on the Wide Receiver

1332
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 6: episode that like it just seemed like Rome's tape is

1333
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 6: like there's like four hundred and forty yard catches paired

1334
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 6: with Pennix, Like he can wing it downfield.

1335
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, he profiles a little bit as a guy that

1336
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 5: you guys will get annoyed of me overrating because because

1337
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 5: he's so good at throwing the ball and that he

1338
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 5: actually settles into like a mid level starting quarterback that

1339
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 5: is up and down.

1340
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: But like that's that's still good.

1341
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 4: I mean, he's going to be a twenty five year

1342
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 4: old rookie, so he's going to be a little bit older.

1343
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: But I have twenty four. You have twenty five.

1344
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 7: I think his birthday. Check to see when his birthday is.

1345
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: I think he's turning twenty four. Dan almost a graveyard

1346
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: if you just okay, so I'm aging grade. No, he

1347
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: turns twenty four next month.

1348
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 7: Okay, So twenty four year old rookie.

1349
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 4: But I was talking to Lancerline about him, and he

1350
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 4: was talking about how when he watches his tape, he

1351
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 4: just he doesn't take sacks, he'll get rid of the ball.

1352
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 4: He's not really great like moving around the pocket. So

1353
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,479
Speaker 4: those are just some of like the flags that he sees.

1354
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 4: But he's got a really strong arm, and he's really

1355
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 4: he's tough. He sounds fun and he's a good leader too.

1356
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 4: Apparently he's got a howitzer. Some people say, I actually

1357
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 4: haven't heard that. I assume at some point someone.

1358
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 5: He quoted Gino Smith on the podium after winning the

1359
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 5: pack that championship, which to me me.

1360
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: Greg, you had done it. You've done it.

1361
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 6: You'd convinced us with a really delightful sales job, and

1362
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 6: now you're taking it to very still places.

1363
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 3: And like Gino, he was thought widely thought to be

1364
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 3: a first round pick. Some people can go into the

1365
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 3: second round as well. So interesting, Connie, how about another one?

1366
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: All right?

1367
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 4: Well, I wasn't initially going to go here because I

1368
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 4: feel like all we've done is talk about this guy.

1369
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 4: But legitimately this comes from a place of total fascination.

1370
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 4: I I really really am curious how Caleb Williams is

1371
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 4: going to be in the NFL coming in with the

1372
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 4: nil money, because we haven't really seen this before. We

1373
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 4: haven't seen someone make the amount of money that he

1374
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 4: has before heading into the league, going into a locker

1375
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 4: room of veteran players who a lot of which have

1376
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 4: not even made close to what Caleb Williams has made.

1377
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 4: I just don't know how it will work and if

1378
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 4: some of those egos will kind of be an issue

1379
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 4: when he does play in the NFL, like if they're

1380
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 4: not winning right away, I don't know how a locker

1381
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 4: room of like older veterans is going to take someone

1382
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 4: like Caleb Williams.

1383
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 7: And it's not this isn't Caleb's.

1384
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: Fault at all.

1385
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 4: It's just the way that the league has changed now

1386
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 4: with nil money in general, and this is going to

1387
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 4: be how it is going forward in general, with these

1388
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 4: drafts and with the players coming out of college. It's

1389
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 4: just a switch and a change, and I just wonder

1390
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 4: how that transition will be because it's going to be

1391
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 4: so so different, and with his personality as well, like

1392
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 4: he's a very gregarious, like very confident type of guy.

1393
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 7: You want that in your quarterback.

1394
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 4: But I just wonder if it will rub some players

1395
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 4: the wrong way, and then how that how that will

1396
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 4: kind of play out.

1397
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: If he can ball, I don't think any.

1398
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 7: Of it matters exactly if he wins, no problem.

1399
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 5: That what you're saying, it's it's true, reminds me a

1400
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 5: little bit of like they used to get these fifty

1401
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 5: million dollar contracts as number one overall draftics and it

1402
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 5: was awkward. It's like Sam Bradford was making way more

1403
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 5: money than anyone else on his team, and well that

1404
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 5: was ridiculous. Yeah it was, and it was crazy. But

1405
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 5: he it took me a while to actually, you know,

1406
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 5: sit down and you know watch it. Hellbows, it's like

1407
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 5: you get it. And he's to me like he can.

1408
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 5: I love him, not just every throw, but just like

1409
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 5: he knows exactly what throw to make at any time.

1410
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 5: I mean, he seems like the best prospects and Andrew Lock,

1411
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 5: like he is so good. It's just outrageous how how

1412
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 5: good he was in a tough spot too last year.

1413
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 5: That like, if he's like that, it's like Andrew Luck, like,

1414
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 5: I think you can have a million different leadership styles.

1415
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: If you're that good, it doesn't matter.

1416
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 3: Very fascinating, Yeah, You just don't know. You don't know

1417
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: how these guys are going to be till they actually play.

1418
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 3: And look at how the first pick went in the

1419
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 3: draft last year. Not to write any eulogies, but and

1420
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 3: then you look at the second second pick, how that went.

1421
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: This feels as camp miss is as possible. All right,

1422
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: it is time. Now coast is clear. Let's flip on

1423
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: the old Spice.

1424
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 8: Show spice rack here for round two, and I'm gonna

1425
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 8: stick with the chip on the shoulder theme and talk

1426
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 8: about Jared Verse from Florida stated, this guy is how

1427
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 8: about that transferred in from Albany to Florida State, And okay,

1428
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 8: that's a big enough jump, But then he dominated and

1429
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 8: you know, I couldn't even tell you how he what

1430
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 8: he technically does against.

1431
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 9: The ron right, I don't know any of this stuff,

1432
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 9: but don't need it.

1433
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 8: Uh, he's got the big enough body, a big enough

1434
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 8: body to support the run and certainly can get after

1435
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 8: the passer. And again transfer from Albany. You carry that

1436
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 8: chip on your should of the rest of your life.

1437
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter if you're the you know you're a

1438
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 8: first round pack, it does not matter at all. And

1439
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 8: on the same team at Florida State. Uh Keon Coleman.

1440
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 8: Every time I check a mock draft, a wide receiver,

1441
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 8: big and athletic, all that stuff, natural touchdown scorer.

1442
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 1: Every time I focus.

1443
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 9: See a new mock draft, he's he's.

1444
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 8: Been dropped to fortieth, fiftieth, sixty, I'm a third round

1445
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 8: or what are we talking about here?

1446
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 9: I really don't know what the issue is.

1447
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 8: If his forty's not that great, that's fine because you

1448
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 8: need to watch him once to see how athletic he is,

1449
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 8: can tort his body and all these you know, sort

1450
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 8: of a he's he's got some Mike Evans to his game,

1451
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 8: you know, not as big a physical and listen, Mike

1452
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 8: Kevin's best underrated player this entire generation.

1453
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: So is that silly?

1454
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 7: Okay?

1455
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 9: I don't know we'll catch touchdowns in the NFL?

1456
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: Hands is?

1457
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 9: How long was that video?

1458
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: A spice rack was a little too long, But I

1459
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: want to know.

1460
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 3: I think everybody wants to know. I thought the video

1461
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 3: lengthg is okay, But you kept looking behind you and

1462
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: we're just is he on the run someone?

1463
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 8: Well?

1464
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 5: You said you you let him know relatively last minute

1465
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 5: about this, and he needed a little extra time and

1466
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 5: the production value is great. He's wearing an Ohio State jersey.

1467
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 5: Not for that's sure who it is, but he's on

1468
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 5: a football He seems like he's on a football field.

1469
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 5: And then yes, he's looking behind him as if there's

1470
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 5: maybe a team that wants to use the fielder.

1471
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: So that was the delay.

1472
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 3: He drove two hours to a football field to do

1473
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 3: these videos. Yes, he's wearing a Bengals nit cap. You

1474
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 3: can check this out on YouTube if you've always wondered

1475
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 3: what the Spice rack looks like. But I hope, I

1476
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 3: hope there's no one following him.

1477
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 6: I just say this because we spent the latter h

1478
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 6: off of last season combining on our weekly picks for

1479
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 6: NFL Media. The Sessin Spice team went roughly like seventy

1480
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 6: eight and iconic. Yeah, I think it was like seventy

1481
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 6: eight and six was our record on the stretch.

1482
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: Hed you guys didn't finish even in the top five

1483
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 1: out of a top.

1484
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 3: It got bad enough and I reached out internally to see, like,

1485
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 3: are these guys in last place?

1486
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: And the guy that runs it behind the scenes, I

1487
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: can't give you that info.

1488
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 6: And I was like, ooh, that well, because that would

1489
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 6: have been incorrect because, like I was also told by

1490
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 6: text on a weekly basis, like these are the most entertaining.

1491
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 6: This is like kind of the the core entertainment aspect

1492
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 6: of these picks that come out is like what you

1493
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 6: guys are cooking up? But listen, like so Jared verse,

1494
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 6: like we're we're in lockstep right there, and that's great.

1495
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 6: Spice Rack has a pretty pristine record when it comes

1496
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 6: to the prospects.

1497
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 5: And is an interesting guy that, like people thought in

1498
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 5: October was gonna be like a top fifteen pick, And yes,

1499
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 5: it has kind of become the trendy thing that like, eh,

1500
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 5: is this guy?

1501
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: Is he really athletic enough? Can he be?

1502
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 5: Like are you gonna have to put him in the

1503
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 5: slot because he's just like this big guy who can't

1504
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 5: win on the outside. And some of those guys haven't

1505
01:09:58,520 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 5: done well in recent years.

1506
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: But then again, like DK Metcalf and A. J. Brown

1507
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: fell to the.

1508
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 3: Bottom of the second a little fun for Mike Evans,

1509
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 3: what do you call him the most criminally underrated player

1510
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 3: of the generation? Interesting, good conversation piece, good sega idea there,

1511
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 3: Spice Rack, you didn't even know you did it?

1512
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: Criminal? Yeah, underrated players. That's good.

1513
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 3: Let's take a break and we will be back with

1514
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 3: one more round. All right, we're back, Uh one more time,

1515
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 3: Let's go one more time around.

1516
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 6: Go on, Mark, I'm going to save my running back

1517
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 6: stuff till later because I like a couple.

1518
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 3: When later, because we are later in the week, not today. Yeah, saying,

1519
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 3: don't bank it for later in this show, because this

1520
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 3: is it, my friend.

1521
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: No, no, this is I. I.

1522
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 6: Yes, we got started late. It's certainly an independent of that.

1523
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 6: It just feels like time for whenever the two of

1524
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 6: them are ready, I'll be happy to offer another player.

1525
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 6: You just let me know when when you'd like that

1526
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 6: to happen.

1527
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,560
Speaker 1: You're finally, I'll wait. I'll wait for you to tell me.

1528
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm picking someone that probably doesn't go early in

1529
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 6: the draft at all.

1530
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: Like more mid rounds and like again, it's just like

1531
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, you're watching.

1532
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 6: One hundreds, like mid round from the Sessil linebacker Notre

1533
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 6: Dame Marris lea Fau and like this is because I

1534
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 6: was looking at the here's how I try to dessarch players,

1535
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 6: like who is like the toughest, nastiest hitter in the

1536
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 6: entire draft, and this guy's name kept coming up over

1537
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 6: and over, so then I went and watched him, and

1538
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 6: it's another guy.

1539
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 1: It's like my old brownson.

1540
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:24,839
Speaker 6: Like this guy's just gonna wind up on the Ravens

1541
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 6: or the Steelers and he'll start as like a backup

1542
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 6: rotational linebacker, but then they won't be able to keep

1543
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 6: him off the field. Like I mean, he has like

1544
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 6: an aura of complete and total ultra violence to him.

1545
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 6: The speed, it's kind of like I think the linebacker position,

1546
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 6: even like when you're young, it's like who's the kid

1547
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 6: on the team can like then suss out seeing through

1548
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 6: a bunch of bodies where the ball is, where it's going,

1549
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 6: what's happening with the play, and he has like a

1550
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 6: laser beam heat seeking ability to get to it.

1551
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: He is really like his speed. He's a guy that

1552
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: can go kind like.

1553
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 6: Wire to wire across the field if like a quarterback's

1554
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 6: trying to scramble out. I'll never forget when Johnny Manzel

1555
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 6: in one of his in his first start against the Panthers,

1556
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 6: We're watching Wesnum, We're watching it on a Sunday, and

1557
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 6: Manziell this like lauded speed guy out of college tried

1558
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 6: to get to the edge and some Carolina Panthers defender

1559
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 6: just like ran over and blew him up. And you

1560
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 6: knew that Johnny Manziel was never gonna be good in

1561
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 6: the NFL. He just you just knew it. And this

1562
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 6: guy can do that to quarterbacks, to people on the edge,

1563
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 6: like they're just something about his game and he got

1564
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 6: PFF called him the hardest hitter, and list has said

1565
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 6: that when he comes down hill, he comes downhill with

1566
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 6: bad intentions, and that's how I would label him too.

1567
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 6: He's fun to watch and he's gonna it's gonna be

1568
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 6: hard to like keep him off the field.

1569
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: I think if he can stick because he's not a

1570
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: huge guy. But he's not He's six two thirty four.

1571
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: He's fine. I was not familiar with this man.

1572
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 5: I went to go check Dan Brugler at the Athletic

1573
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 5: HASM as the the number fifteen linebacker projected fifth to

1574
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 5: sixth round. So this is a deep year, it is,

1575
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 5: but planting you find the number. He has him as

1576
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 5: the number two linebacker from Notre Dame.

1577
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: I like that, but every draft you have to find

1578
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: people like this, right, I mean, so I don't know.

1579
01:12:58,840 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: I just like him. I want to see where he

1580
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: It's a.

1581
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 3: Hot and cold review from land Zierline on our NFL

1582
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 3: dot com draft profile.

1583
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't doubt it. Like I again, I like I

1584
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 1: said these seasons violence.

1585
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 6: He's a mid round guy, but like the way he plays,

1586
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 6: he's gonna like he's The NFL is almost like scared

1587
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 6: of his playing style.

1588
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: I think he Mark's got that soft side. I love that.

1589
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: We heard in Duality of Man the sound direct, but

1590
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: I love him. Mark also knows violence. Loves that too, Yes,

1591
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: loves it.

1592
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go more basic and just Rock Bowers, to me,

1593
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 5: is another guy that maybe everyone's overthinking. To me, it's

1594
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 5: just it's fascinating that like he would not go early

1595
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 5: in part because he's been so good from the minute

1596
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 5: he showed up. I mean, a guy who can show

1597
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 5: up on the national champion team and as a true

1598
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 5: freshman like dominate against Alabama and lead them to a

1599
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 5: national championship and put up numbers. And people are like, well,

1600
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 5: you know, Kyle Pitts hasn't hasn't worked out, and all

1601
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 5: these first round tight ends like that hasn't worked out.

1602
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 5: Like that's just this is from the same people that

1603
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 5: would say sample size issues when you're talking about a

1604
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 5: guy who throws ninety to one hundred packs. This is like,

1605
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 5: it's just a couple of different picks.

1606
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 3: In fairness, Greg, I don't think people are saying, after

1607
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:12,560
Speaker 3: what happened last year when we had a lot of

1608
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 3: impact tight ends, come right, that's a little bit of

1609
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 3: a that narrative has been put to bed a little.

1610
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 5: Bit, okay, But I think they're pointing out that the

1611
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 5: guys are Okay, that was in the second round. You

1612
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 5: can wait and like if Sam Laporte had been a

1613
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,839
Speaker 5: first round pick, that makes them somehow better. Just anyone

1614
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 5: that can show up and have three seasons where you're

1615
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 5: the number one target. Lad mcconkey's great in all, but

1616
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 5: like brock Bauers was their number one receiver for three

1617
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 5: straight years on an elite elite team and he produced

1618
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 5: like crazy every single season. Like why don't overthink it?

1619
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 5: Like I get the whole like contract thing of like

1620
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 5: tight ends, you're not saving as much money because if

1621
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 5: you take them twelfth, that actually is a contract that's

1622
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 5: similar to a top five to tight ten end. Like

1623
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 5: that comes into equation. It's like, but if you're right

1624
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 5: It doesn't freaking matter. You have to get the player right.

1625
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 5: That's more important than everything. And after you get pass

1626
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 5: like five, six, seven players in this draft, I don't

1627
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 5: think there's a player that you'd be more confident in

1628
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 5: is going to be a plus player.

1629
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: There just aren't many tight ends.

1630
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 5: He reminds me of Tony Gonzalez, because hell, aren't many

1631
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 5: tight ends that make you miss and can you can

1632
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 5: run over them. That's that's two things. You just don't

1633
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 5: see that that Like even Rob gwn Krause, he can't

1634
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 5: really make you miss. Like he can make you miss

1635
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 5: and he can run over you. That's pretty that's pretty special.

1636
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: Let's go to New York Jets. If the Jets took him,

1637
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: I think that'd be great.

1638
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 3: Well to you, Like what we're just saying is like

1639
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 3: Jets fans that are old enough, you're spooked by it

1640
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 3: because the Jets have had bad luck drafting tight ends

1641
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 3: high in their history.

1642
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: But that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because that was then,

1643
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: this is now.

1644
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 3: He would certainly be a scheme fit for the Jets

1645
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 3: at ten because if Rogers can play, and if you

1646
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 3: added an athletic playmaking tight end to that group, look out,

1647
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 3: they would be very different.

1648
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 5: Kyle Pitts was a special prospect, Like Bowers had more

1649
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 5: production in his freshman year than Kyle Pitts had in

1650
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 5: any of his years, and then he backed it up

1651
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 5: with everyone knowing it was coming like two straight more

1652
01:15:58,720 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 5: that I don't know it should matter.

1653
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 3: Daniel Jeremiah has him ranked number seventh overall. Bowers Jeremiah says,

1654
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 3: and maybe we'll talk to Daniel about this reminds me

1655
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 3: a lot of George Kittle, and I see him having

1656
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 3: a similar impact in the NFL.

1657
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: Well, sign me up. Yeah, what are we doing here?

1658
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: Let's just make it happen.

1659
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 4: Connie, Okay, one more, let me tell you a little

1660
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 4: bit about Rome Adoonza.

1661
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: Okay.

1662
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 4: I love him, wide receiver from Washington. And I also

1663
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 4: picked this because he's been mocked a ton at nine

1664
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 4: to Chicago. So since I talked about Caleb, these two

1665
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 4: could actually be paired together if Chicago stays in that

1666
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 4: spot at nine doesn't move back. But he uh twenty

1667
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 4: twenty three First Team All American Bolitnikoff finalist. He started

1668
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 4: d end in high school before switching over to wide

1669
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 4: receiver his junior year. He was an incredible sprinter on

1670
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 4: the track team in high school, won the four A

1671
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 4: state title in the two hundred and the four by

1672
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 4: one hundred. But I loved when Apparently when he was

1673
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 4: six years old, he created a Facebook account with all

1674
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 4: of his mom's information and for his occupation he listed

1675
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 4: quarterback in the NFL.

1676
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 1: And his mom's information the sign up. Here's the email. Okay,

1677
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: all right, I was.

1678
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 3: Thinking, we got resourceful in my eyes, kind of just

1679
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 3: need the email everything else, like you can just you've cleared.

1680
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 6: It, right.

1681
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 7: I haven't used Facebook because.

1682
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 3: He created Okay, so you create the account, but you

1683
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 3: do need an email account to thing, so you need

1684
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 3: to go you have to travel off site to activate

1685
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 3: with the link.

1686
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 4: Got it?

1687
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 7: Okay.

1688
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 4: Rome also spent summers on his grandfather's dairy farm, tall

1689
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 4: No when he was younger, but he would work right

1690
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 4: alongside Grandpa Wayne on the farm.

1691
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 7: Now he was named Rome.

1692
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 4: Because apparently his dad just really liked the Roman Empire.

1693
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: That's some had its merits also at strawbacks, and he.

1694
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 5: Ended up definitely a thing that like guys in their

1695
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 5: mid to late thirties get fascinated.

1696
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 4: What is that?

1697
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, he watched a lot of three I would say

1698
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 6: it hearkens back to like elements of our society that

1699
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 6: are missing, certain like.

1700
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,799
Speaker 1: Male Gary Cooper, anybody.

1701
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, Rome would say like, oh, it's a bit of

1702
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 6: a more raw time. You're not dealing with a bunch

1703
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 6: of nonsense.

1704
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: Nobody's afraid to go on the roof in Rome. No,

1705
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: that's fair. Put me on the goddamn roof.

1706
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 6: Let me get hit with a bone arrow, but give

1707
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 6: me a sword, give me a shield, put me on

1708
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 6: a roof.

1709
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 4: See, like, when I think of Rome, I'm not thinking

1710
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 4: about like Roman Empire and like gladiators and like fights

1711
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:32,879
Speaker 4: at the coliseum.

1712
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 7: I'm thinking about pizza and pasta.

1713
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: Well they had that too, Yeah back then, quite good.

1714
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: So rodus think just think of the last lack of

1715
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: like toothcare back then.

1716
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 6: I mean to reg always does sort of like, oh,

1717
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 6: you're dead by thirty two. It's like, yeah, you're.

1718
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 5: Dead by thirty two, Like of your eight children died

1719
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 5: by the time they were two, and you have to

1720
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 5: just like like it's buried off.

1721
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: Roma.

1722
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 3: Dune Day is the number three prospect according to DJ

1723
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 3: and he reminds him love him, Larry Fitzgerald, come out

1724
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 3: of college, give me all you got.

1725
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 6: There's an incredible stat that PFF put about it because like,

1726
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 6: if you watch me, it's like it's contested catches.

1727
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: He's like, give it's nasty dirty, get dirty with the number.

1728
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: The girl, it's football, not don't take it somewhere else.

1729
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: Eric is on fire.

1730
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 6: He got seventy five percent of his contested catches this

1731
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 6: past season, and then when they've tracked four hundred and

1732
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 6: seventy seventeen seasons, that ranks six.

1733
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: Good.

1734
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 3: I want you to can you play the Greg drop

1735
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 3: and then straight to the straight to the Spice channel

1736
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 3: for the last time.

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Speaker 1: Now give it to me, get dirty, get dirty with

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Speaker 1: the numbers, all.

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Speaker 9: Right, spice track here.

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01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: Three zero.

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01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 8: Just list the rest of the guys in the list

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01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 8: that I like. Michael Panic's lefty quarterback from Washington.

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01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: This one's really long, by the way, you said, so.

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01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 9: Field general, great, down the field general.

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01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: I love it. Our agreement.

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01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 8: Give me that guy riding pearsol receiver from took just

1747
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 8: a monster uh in in the slot even though he

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01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 8: played plenty outside, which I think will help him.

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01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 9: Imagine we saw a guy running in the slot every time.

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01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 1: This guy's gonna be from behind with a knife slot receiver.

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01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to imagine that he's gonna kill you

1752
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: for talking to him. In the Kansas is a quarterback

1753
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: Jason Bean after a year.

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01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 8: Or two was sent to Bean Doug to a wide receiver,

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01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 8: and every time the quarterback got hurt, he came in

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01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 8: and played great. And uh, you know, he's almost twenty

1757
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 8: five late bloomer, but he's also someone with a second

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01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,520
Speaker 8: chance at life, basically as a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So uh, like the backstories, I'm rooting for him.

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01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 8: But he's he's big and athletic, and I mean he's

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01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,560
Speaker 8: a good player. Definitely likes throwing deep too. Always a

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01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 8: fan of that. Lars Nevis or MeVis, however you say it,

1763
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 8: this is your favorite prospect in the in the in

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01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 8: the whole draft for sure. Monster kicker, Yes, I saw

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01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 8: him kick a sixty four years Missouri so kicks a

1766
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 8: kick a sixty four yard er right at the gun.

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01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 8: That cashed me a nice money line. I can't even

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01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 8: remember who they were playing, but Missouri was like Greg

1769
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 8: Cody Schrader running back Missouri, Big Missouri.

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01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 9: Day, everybody, Uh ozark was a wildly.

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01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: Over beautiful day in Cincinnati. That's score ridiculous.

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01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 9: Cody Schrader was like a Division III legend.

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01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: Did you guys just hear him? Records the Division three.

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01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 9: Heismans and uh tried to come up to the Division

1776
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 9: one level.

1777
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 8: He did not get a scholarship to the very end

1778
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 8: by one team Missouri, and he he led the uh

1779
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 8: the sec and rushing two straight years. And man, I

1780
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 8: could be wrong about that, but I think it's something

1781
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 8: like that. And so uh just I'm rooting for that

1782
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 8: guy for sure. And again, no bigger chip on anyone

1783
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 8: shore than Cody Schrader. Keep going, all right, My last

1784
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 8: guy is Jordan Travis, quarterback Floor Staate gets hurt a lot,

1785
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 8: uh or at least took suffered catastrophic injury in his

1786
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 8: last game.

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01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 1: Brutal, brutal.

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01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 9: All right, well, all right, no.

1789
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 1: No, no, that's not right.

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01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 9: But he suffered a catastrophic injury to end his season.

1791
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: Don't laugh. Great stuff.

1792
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 9: And but he was coming along great.

1793
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 8: At Florida State and then started coming along great and

1794
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 8: just looking awesome and sort of getting that second chance

1795
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 8: at life. Almost too, because he was he was almost

1796
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 8: left for dead, but he wasn't. No one was looking

1797
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 8: for him to be anything. Special and then he really

1798
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 8: bloomed the last two years. So rooting for Jordan Travis too.

1799
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 8: And he's athletic, but man, he got folded up in

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01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 8: that last game. All right, that's it again.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to thank.

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01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 8: Everybody, but especially Mark the Cessman, Sessler, Cesspice.

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01:22:53,720 --> 01:23:00,839
Speaker 9: Forever, everyone else, never or most.

1804
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: Of the time. It's good.

1805
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 5: We waited till the end there see and thank you,

1806
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 5: by the way, Thank you spice Rack. That was that

1807
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 5: was incredible. H Jordan Travis in the news, by the way,

1808
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 5: taking some visits at tom Pelisaire at the pell Racer

1809
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 5: mentioned but I I thought that was excellent and I

1810
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 5: like that he likes guys who have a second chance

1811
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 5: at I think he likes the underdog story.

1812
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 1: It's an angle. I think that was something him and

1813
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: Wes bonded over.

1814
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Speaker 5: I think Wes looked at it like a late bloomer,

1815
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 5: someone who fought his way out of where he was

1816
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 5: in life.

1817
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: I think him ice.

1818
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,759
Speaker 7: Rack, I like everything except the Ozar heat.

1819
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: Never seen it, so I can't believe. I mean, I

1820
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 1: mean he took it down. Yeah, had a.

1821
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 3: I talked over his Prestige television hot take, so that

1822
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 3: that could be an issue for me and Spicy.

1823
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: We've had issues in the past.

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01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 6: He's gonna fume at you and I see it and

1825
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,480
Speaker 6: rightly as a sign of complete and total disrespect.

1826
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't handing on your point of view. I think

1827
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: that's not your point of view his. But by that logic,

1828
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: Damn has disrespected everyone. Yeah, I probably have not by

1829
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 1: his point of view.

1830
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 3: Can we please keep in mind, sess Dog, that Spice

1831
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 3: Rack being on today's program. It's not you, sess man,

1832
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 3: it was me. So what better active respect for the

1833
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 3: Spice Rack than me having him on the program Today's

1834
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 3: You could says I value his input, you could.

1835
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 1: Spin it, wait and again.

1836
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 6: It's all comes down. It comes down to point of view.

1837
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 6: Send me a football. Yeah, all right, that's it. Thank

1838
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 6: you to the Spice Channel, always entertaining. We will be

1839
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 6: back on Wednesday with more football talk, more draft talks,

1840
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,879
Speaker 6: some more guests. As we get closer and closer, Jesus

1841
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 6: take the wheel to the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. Connie,

1842
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 6: You've said it all, and yet you have one last opportunity.

1843
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 7: To say more things. That's great.

1844
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 4: I love you guys, and actually I didn't like when

1845
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 4: was the last time we were all in studio together,

1846
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,799
Speaker 4: it feels like a minute. So it's nice to actually

1847
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 4: be back with all three of you in studio and

1848
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 4: no real tech diffs on my side at least today.

1849
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 6: Locked and loaded. There we go, Amie Honey in the

1850
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 6: studio is never a concern. She's going to give you

1851
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 6: high effort, she's going to give you quality.

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01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 7: Oh ye, and I'll be on time.

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Speaker 8: What is that?

1854
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 5: All right?

1855
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: Everybody? Thank you for listening. Until next time. You know

1856
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. Heat the cap.