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Speaker 1: We welcome you into the Cross Country Mortgage Campus here

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Speaker 1: in Berea. This is the best podcast available and the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four NFL Draft is officially in the books,

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Speaker 1: with maybe the longest day three that I have done

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Speaker 1: in twelve years. Joined by staff writer Kelsey Russo, who

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Speaker 1: I think has experienced her first and if she comes

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Speaker 1: back next year after this day, she deserves a medal

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Speaker 1: for this. Uno had his head on his desk. He

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Speaker 1: was sleeping during the end of the draft. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what was going on. But the draft is over

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Speaker 1: and it's time for us to break it down here

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Speaker 1: on the best podcast available. Kelsey, let's get down to it.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised that this team made all six picks?

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Speaker 2: When I was thinking about this, at first, my initial

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Speaker 2: thought was yes. But then when I kind of honestly

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Speaker 2: like took a second to think yes and no. When

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Speaker 2: I went back and kind of looked at Aby's history

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Speaker 2: of drafting, you know, the he's trade the last two

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Speaker 2: second rounders that we that they had the last two years,

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Speaker 2: the seventh rounders I wasn't expecting us to take. But

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Speaker 2: then when looking at the twenty twenty five picks with

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Speaker 2: the multiple sixth round picks. It kind of made sense

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Speaker 2: that we stayed. They stayed where they were at because

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Speaker 2: of what is to come and you know, being able

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Speaker 2: to move around. You know, maybe what I was thinking

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Speaker 2: was that they would have like packaged some of those

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Speaker 2: in the end, it kind of does make sense, just

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Speaker 2: kind of considering the future.

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Speaker 1: So yes and no, Yes, I'm going to have a

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Speaker 1: conversation with our manager on the number of seventh round

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Speaker 1: picks that he chose to keep, but that'll be a

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Speaker 1: conversation for another day. But they do make all six picks,

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't make any trades on draft weekend, and

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Speaker 1: we've got six new football players, and obviously they'll be

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Speaker 1: more added as we go, the undrafted free agents, the

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Speaker 1: scouts burning up the phone lines. I've seen mister Cooper

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Speaker 1: go by our capologist Andrew Barry quickly as soon as

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Speaker 1: he was doing to this press conference, going back to

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Speaker 1: his office. Still some work to be done on this roster,

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Speaker 1: and he did say that in his press conference post draft,

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Speaker 1: along with head coach Kevin Stefanski. Still plenty of work

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Speaker 1: to do, but we do have six draft picks, and

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Speaker 1: it starts off in round number two on Friday night,

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Speaker 1: pick number fifty four. According to Dane Brugler, the fifth

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Speaker 1: best defensive tackle in this draft Mike Hall junior, not

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Speaker 1: Michael Mike Hall junior from the Ohio State University now

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Speaker 1: at Cleveland Brown. You're one thought on Mike Hall junior.

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Speaker 2: So yes, one thought he is.

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Speaker 1: If you have more you can you can pull as

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Speaker 1: the girls the girl sometimes has like six or seven

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Speaker 2: Okay, they all kind of go together, So one big thought.

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Speaker 2: I really liked what Andrew Berry had to say yesterday

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Speaker 2: this attack style defense. Just someone who's explosive, he's quick,

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Speaker 2: and how he can rush the passer. Glenn Cook also

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Speaker 2: described him as a shape shifter, which I really loved.

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Speaker 2: Just his ability to attack the quarterback I think is

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Speaker 2: something that on the interior the Browns could really use.

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Speaker 2: And today you know, Barry added to that, saying just

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Speaker 2: his ability to rush just as like from a physical standpoint,

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Speaker 2: but also his feel as a rusher I think is

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Speaker 2: a really unique skill set that they can use from

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Speaker 2: a young guy.

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Speaker 1: And he's battled a couple of injuries and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to work through that. I think maybe some opportunities

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Speaker 1: are going to come with all six of these guys

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Speaker 1: on that defensive line, and everybody came back, which is

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Speaker 1: awesome and I couldn't be happier about that, But you

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Speaker 1: do have to have an eye on the future. And

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they can learn from you know, guys like Miles,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and this is a guy that in early

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Speaker 1: pick eighty five, the Browns go get a guard. And

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Speaker 1: it's in a little while since we've gone after a

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Speaker 1: to the University of Michigan and defending national champ, Zach

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Speaker 1: Zinter with pick number eighty five, six ' five almost

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Speaker 1: sixty six, three hundred and nine pounds. He's been through

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Speaker 2: I think that was kind of the thinking behind it,

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Speaker 2: especially because he's coming off that leg injury that he

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Speaker 1: That's at the hands of our defensive test, yes, which

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Speaker 2: They talked about that today, just kind of the how

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Speaker 2: they're both here with the Browns. But what I thought,

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Speaker 2: what really stood out to me today was the fact

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Speaker 2: I think is a really big deal for him to

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Speaker 2: the thing that really stood out to me from Andrew

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Speaker 2: Berry was saying that he's an excellent pass protector, which

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Speaker 2: I think is something that on that offensive line from

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it's I think he and

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Speaker 1: Wyatteller are going to hit it off. It could be

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Speaker 1: a very dangerous combination the two of them together between

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Speaker 1: the hunting, fishing, the love of the guns. But clearly

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Speaker 1: here's a guy that has a lot of upside a leader.

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Speaker 1: I think Andrew Berry was quick to point that out

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Speaker 1: a key member of a football team.

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Speaker 2: Heartbeat of the culture at Michigan was how he was described.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's a really cool trait for him

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Speaker 1: Absolutely all right on to Saturday and again the longest

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Speaker 1: day maybe that I've had in twelve years. We did

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Speaker 1: a draft show for three hours. We did not make

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Speaker 1: which I could not figure out for the life. Mean,

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of trading, There was a lot

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Speaker 1: of moving around, There were a lot of This draft

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Speaker 1: was a draft with a lot of runs wide receiver

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Speaker 1: or defensive tackle or corner or then the running backs went.

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Speaker 1: It just came in bunches. But the Browns had to

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Speaker 1: wait till the fifth round and it picked one fifty

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Speaker 1: six Jamari Thrash wide receiver from Louisville. However, before that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Browns really see him as a receiver

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Speaker 2: who can be productive both inside and outside, which I

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Speaker 2: think is a really unique aspect of his skill set

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Speaker 2: And Andrew Berry again described him as an outstanding separator,

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Speaker 2: which I think for a wide receiver is a really

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Speaker 2: good trait to have, especially with this offense. So I

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Speaker 2: think he has an opportunity to develop under you know,

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Speaker 2: guys like Amari Cooper, like Jerry Judy, Elijah Moore who

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Speaker 2: and develop into you know, a good wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, and you take a look at the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver room and now you've got nine wide receivers. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's a very very crowded wide receiver room. The one

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Speaker 1: special teams, which I was a little surprised by. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but again, here's a guy like everybody else that was

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Speaker 1: a way and make their mark in special teams sooner

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Speaker 2: He said he was a gunner at Louisville, so which

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Speaker 2: I think is a cool element on special teams that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the other interesting thing when he transferred

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Speaker 1: that definitely bears watching because he has the speed, but

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Speaker 1: he also has the ability to go and get the football,

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Speaker 1: onto the sixth round we go Nathaniel Watson, linebacker, Mississippi State.

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Speaker 1: There was some question, I know Andrew Barry said, we

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Speaker 1: were very comfortable with the person the player. Obviously they

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Speaker 1: I think he led the SEC and tackles. So here's

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Speaker 1: get some youth there.

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Speaker 2: And you know, one of the traits that you know,

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Speaker 2: one of the scouts talked about with Watson was his

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Speaker 2: toughness and intelligence at that linebacker position. That's what really drew.

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Speaker 1: Them to him.

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Speaker 2: And you know, he's really good in the wrong game,

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Speaker 2: particularly with his strength. And I think one of the

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Speaker 2: with the changes in the in the in the kicking game,

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Speaker 2: that maybe some guys that have that size could be

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Speaker 2: those were kind of those elements that really stood out

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Speaker 2: about Watson that drew them to him.

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Speaker 1: I think the other thing to note is every year

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Speaker 1: from the Senior Bowl. He was a top linebacker on

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Speaker 1: He's got a great uncle and an uncle that both

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Speaker 1: It's okay, you should have seen me earlier trying to talk.

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Speaker 2: Back in the first round.

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Speaker 1: I won't know what to do. No same Well, and

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a while since we've had a first

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