WEBVTT - CIPHA SOUNDS - Chinese Take-Out NYC 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:08.480 Hey, welcome you. Welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.600 I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we are outside 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:16.040 the podcast studio and into Brooklyn, New York, Okay, and 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:22.320 our special guest today is Cipher Sounds, the legendary Cipher 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:31.000 Sounds DJ radio radio radio host turned stand up comic. 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.280 We got a lot of layers here that we gotta 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:40.080 call definitely layered, layered, and you pivoted a lot. So 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.879 I'm curious now on this episode, on on the New 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.760 York edition, we are not actually cooking in studio. We're 0:00:45.800 --> 0:01:11.360 gonna do take out addition, So I want to know 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.959 what you ate when you were broke in New York 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:20.280 trying to survive. So what do you have us eating today? So? Um, Hi, 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:25.120 I'm very famous in New York. So uh, there was 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:26.759 a lot of things I ate while I was broke, 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.480 but this this year was my main go to. And 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:35.240 this is a New York staple. Now it sounds kind 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.800 of common. It's four chicken wings and French fries, which 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:42.160 you could get at any on any kid's menu in 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:47.200 any restaurant. Buffalo wild wings, red lobster, Applebee's, I mean, 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.600 but it's different. In New York when it comes from 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.080 the Chinese hood spot. I mean, this is not even 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:57.520 this is new. See the chicken wings and French fries 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:01.160 from the Chinese spot. It's something special about it. I 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.640 don't know why has nothing there's nothing Chinese about it. Yeah, 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.440 there really isn't that. But for some reason, the Chinese 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.360 hold in the wall spots in New York City make 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:11.639 them a certain way. I don't know if they all 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.560 talk to each other and have the same recipe or 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.200 they get the chicken delivered from the same spot. But 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:21.239 some dude, some dudes have variations. You could do four 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:25.280 chicken wings and fried rice. Some do four chicken wings 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:28.560 and an egg roll. I personally like the French fry aspect. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:34.280 So this was like my go to broke meal coming up. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.320 And how much was this when you were coming up? 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:42.120 Four bucks? Four bucks, five bucks sometimes and you know 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:45.360 you can add another wing. You can ask for extra 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.280 duck sauce, which I don't know why people in the 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.359 hood are so rude when they ask for extra duck 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:54.000 saw It's a thing you never seen that, Yo, give 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.480 me more duck sauce. I'm like, hey, just as nicely, 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.880 he'll get they'll give you more. So you do your 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.320 French fries with dusaus, you do the chicken with you 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:09.000 do you do hot sauce, duck sauce and catch up, 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.040 and then you can you have like a tri dip, 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.440 you know what I mean a little bit. That's why 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.200 they're so rude. Yeah, because give us the catch up 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.040 in the hot sauce. I don't see any duck. There 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:21.520 is no duck. Shouts, Well, you have to ask for 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.240 the duck shots. Did anyone ask who got this? Eagle? 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.120 Did not get this? I had? I had what do 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:32.560 you call it? The delivery service? Yeah, what is it? Delivery? 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.840 Rob Hobbs and those guys, and they delivered. Didn't have 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.560 that when I was broken. Yeah, well we were on 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.000 a tight schedule. So we're like order that and have 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:44.160 it delivered. It has to be delivered from a Chinese 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.920 guy on a bike from the restaurant. Yeah, because the guy, 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.760 the guy who delivered it was like Filipino or something, 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:51.640 and he came in a Honda Civic. He came in 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:56.360 a scooter. Scooter. Things have changed. So let's let's just 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.760 let's just try a wing so I can have this experience. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:01.800 It from New York. Right, Yeah, I'm from New York, 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:03.160 but I live in l A. I've lived in l 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.360 A so long. But how you had this before? Right? 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.440 I've had this. I've had this. So you got to 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.760 pop off the wingy part. Sometimes you can get a 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:17.839 little meat meat and when you pop How did you 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.640 do it? I did it? I did it? Do you 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.680 do flats first or drum first? Let me tell you, 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.640 I'm a flats person. I don't. I don't you know 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.800 what I don't. I don't mess with the drum. When 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:29.839 I was younger, I was all about the drum. I 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.839 got older and I was all about the flat. What 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:35.880 is it about the flat that you like? Mhm? I 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:40.320 feel like the drum is always dryer. I'm gonna lie. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:44.040 I haven't had this a long time. It tastes exactly. 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:51.520 It's hello, good yo. Let me yeah, this taste exactly. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.440 How I remember, when was the last time you ate 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.520 this like this? Like straight up from a Chinese spot 0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:00.600 like this? Oh man, I had to be like, but 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.640 you're were in two It had to be like two 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:09.640 thousand and four or something like that. Wow, that's a 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.279 long time. And I eat a lot of wings, so 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.159 funny because you look like you're a nostalgic land right now. 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.040 You're like, no, because you know, taste is one of them. 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:19.800 You know, taste and smell is one of the most 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:27.040 um sensory, provocative, uh mind melding type. You know, smell 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:28.880 is the most you remember the most when you smell 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.600 something like if a girl works past me with Chanel 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.680 number five, I instantly think of that bitch that broke 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.520 up with me. And I don't use the term bitch 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.240 in a derogatory sense towards females. It's more of a 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.960 hip hop colloquialism. Okay, well, what was going on in 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:52.440 two thousand and four? Yeah, but like right before before 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.240 and then I want to know two thousand four what 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:59.359 the transition was? But oh no, well, so yeah I 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:11.000 was broken at ups and downs? Right. So six, I 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:15.080 get the call the DJ for a little kim, So 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:20.719 did you not know that I'm listening? I'm so I 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.640 get to call it trying to be eating. This is gross. 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.320 Don't do that, you know. I just I want to 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:30.960 tell you something people actually hate when we're smacking on 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.719 the show, and I try so hard not to. I'll 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.760 be like trying to quiet and every once while I 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.120 get an item where we're both like, see, that's the 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.760 difference between podcasts nowadays. In radio, we used to have 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.000 this thing called a cough button. It's a button right 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:46.800 by the mic, like if you're about to cough or 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:48.240 do something you don't want people. It's almost like a 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.919 mute button and you hold it down. Podcasts don't have buttons, 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.279 no no, but we have at it, you know. But 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.040 we did everything in real time, but just smack quietly, smoothly. 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:04.080 So I have to call a DJ for a Little Kim. 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.680 So I go on the road with Little Kim and 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.960 Junior Mafia before her first album comes out. So we 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:16.520 were just doing promo shows and she was doing like 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:18.640 she didn't even have an album all yet. She had 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:23.040 like get money, get Money, remix players, anthem, a couple 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.760 of R and B for you know, features, and we 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.880 would do like, you know, we have to fill a 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.400 half hour or hour show, so we would do like 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.520 a Yo, here's a b I G. Here's your favorite 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.520 Biggie songs and he's like your favorite West Coast. We 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:39.520 would just make a show out of it. And I 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:46.640 was getting three hundred dollars a week and then like 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:52.240 then her album comes out, then she's popping, popping, like 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.640 we was going everywhere and the album's doing really well, 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.280 and then her videos come out like first Came No 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.160 Time In and the song Crushed on You. So we 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.880 all popping and they still give me three hundred a week. 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.600 That was like the promo tour money. So then I said, yo, 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.520 I just you know, I want to stay doing this, 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.800 but it's not enough to survive. I was. I thought 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:14.360 I was gonna get more, and then I had to 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.800 quit and they hired some other guy. He sucks, so 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.120 they called me back. Then I was getting three hundred 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:24.600 a show, and I thought I was rich, oh, because 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:29.000 they went from three hundred a week. So then it's 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:33.559 like we go out Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, we might 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.040 do we might do a some kind of big show 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.800 on Saturday. Then we might do an after party. So 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.839 that's two shows in one night. So I'm getting three hundred. 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.480 So I'm coming home with like twelve or fifteen hundred 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:50.160 a week, and I thought I was rich, and that 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:56.960 was how were you at that time? Yeah, you're you're 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.240 really rich at that time. And my rent was seven 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:04.880 hundred dollars, so I'm making that in a week plus, 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:09.000 right was a week, I'm making seven rent, Like in 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.480 my mind my rent is done God, then the rest 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:15.160 of it is just stacking up and you know. And 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.880 then that stopped. So I was just deejaying. And then 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.240 I started interning that on the radio for funk Master 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.240 Flex and he wouldn't pay me. He didn't pay me. 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:30.640 He paid me in knowledge and opportunity and food he 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.360 would pay for, like the food, like I order food 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.960 and you order yourself something, so like I had to 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.839 order him food and I would order like something like this. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.160 I would order whatever. He always ate crazy, so I 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:47.120 would order extra because he never checked the receipt. So 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.600 I ordered something for right now, and then something I 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.040 could have for breakfast. So I'm like, okay, what will 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.640 if I hide this in my book bag? Won't won't 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:58.560 take gross in the morning, and that's it. And then 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.319 then I was back to broke, you know what I'm saying. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:03.760 And then but I learned how to make money. Flex 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:05.680 wouldn't pay me, but he taught me how to make money. 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:08.880 So as I mean, it's still to this day, I 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:13.160 use Flex tactics. Now, where was the transition where you 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.959 you ended up not eating like what happened two four, 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.000 where it was like no more no. I still was 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.120 kind of broken two thousand four, but not eating this. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:26.160 Um So, I'm on the radio. Let's see. I started 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:30.880 in nineties seven as an intern, and then I just 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.280 started DJing a lot more on DJ and every night, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.960 sometimes opening for flex, sometimes getting my own gigs. And 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.800 I don't really I don't spend a lot. Like I 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:45.439 bought one chain it was fake. I bought a platinum chain, 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.520 but it was fake. Like I know this lady that 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.319 makes Julian. She goes, no, just get um well coded 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.080 and we'll put cubics of Coonian. And I was like, 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.320 oh yeah, let's do that. And then and then here's 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.560 the crazy ship. You can say whatever you want. Can 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.000 I see the effort? Thanks? Can't you say all that? 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:11.400 Um So, she's telling me a lot of famous rappers 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.960 at the time, we're getting fake chained. But it was 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.960 like they had real chains, but they would wear the 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.640 fake ones out in case they got robbed. Yeah, yeah 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.600 that makes sense, but you believe, you know they can 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:27.360 afford the real change. Where would they wear the real chains? 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.240 Do in their house? I guess depending on where they 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:33.400 were going, Like, if you're going to the tunnel, that's 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.800 where DJ. The tunnel nightclub chains were getting robbed on 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:40.439 the regular, so don't wear your real one to the tunnel. 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.400 But anyway, so I got one chain, I said. So 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:47.200 I wasn't really a flashy guy like that. So I 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.680 stacked all my money, stacked it, stacked the stacked the stack. 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.319 So I was DJ and a lot um. Then Flex 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.319 would get me certain well, you know, we would host 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.679 somebody's mixtape and we get like four brand he gave 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:05.240 me one, you know, we host like uh certain events, 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.120 and then like he got on MTV and he would like, 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:10.920 you know, you gotta pay sight for the drive or whatever. 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:12.440 So I was making like a little bit of money 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.720 here now, but I didn't wasn't spending a lot. So 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:18.440 I started stacking boom boom boom and then um. And 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.800 then when I got my own show on the radio, 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.960 that's when I started getting like popular, like getting real 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.920 good gigs like that, gigs that pay two thousand, three thousand, 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:33.800 five thousand. DJ was fun back then. Yeah, yeah, you're 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:37.080 making a lot of money. You were in heavy rotation. 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.800 How's your ego around that time? Oh, my ego got 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:45.120 checked so early. My boy Ari, he saved my life 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.920 this when I had to change. I took the chain 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.200 off after this night and I listen. I was in 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:56.439 the tunnel around Puffy, jay Z, Fat Joe, Big, Pat, Norri, DMX, 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.520 all these people and so like, I thought, oh, I'm 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.079 in the game. Ame I gotta get a chain. I 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.360 didn't really. I don't even like jewelry. I don't even 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:05.280 wear a wedding ring. Like I don't wear I don't 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.280 just like I have so many nice watches, I don't 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:11.320 even wear them. And I was in a tongue I'm 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.120 opening up. I have to be at the tunnel at 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:17.800 nine o'clock because it was it was the first five 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.480 girls free, so I had to be at the tone 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.079 of nine o'clock, the tone and get popping until twelve o'clock. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.440 But I'm there eight thirty bringing in my crates. And 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:32.560 I said something to my boy like halfway I'm the ship, 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.800 like yo, just yo, yo, grab that one or some ship. 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.440 And he he's a little guy too. He's from Philly. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.480 He's my one of my best friends to this day. 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.840 He grabbed my shirt and he said, Yo, don't you 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.880 ever ever talk to me like that again. He's like, 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:51.160 we've been with you. We're all in this together. We've 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.720 been with you since day one. Okay, you got on first, 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.640 but don't talk to us like you bigger than us 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:02.880 or anything. And I've it made it changed my life, Like, oh, 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:06.080 should I start to get gas? I mean, like that's 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.640 where Cifer don't get gas comes from that. I started 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.480 to get gas because I was like starting to be 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.960 known and it really and it made me realize it 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:18.440 doesn't matter, it matter, It does not matter. My friends 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.160 are what matters, you know. And I took the chain 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:22.680 off that day. What am I doing? Why am I 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.240 wearing this stupid chain? Yeah? It wasn't even like you 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.680 were into it. No, it was stupid. I was playing 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.440 like a role. But I was young, I was one whatever. 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.000 So have you ever had to face that ego beast 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.480 ever sinsor where you like? Good? I It might pop 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.840 up here and there, but I check it quick. I 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:45.320 check it with um. You know. I try to, you know, 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:51.520 put myself in reality, like this is a fantastic opportunity 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:56.480 that I have opportunities many but also it's all it 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.440 doesn't you know, it's not you know it doesn't matter. 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.720 You know, how you raise your family or how you 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.440 look at the world is what matters. But that don't mean. 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.880 I don't mean I take away the fun. I have 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.360 a lot of fun with a lot of dope people, 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.120 but I just don't let it get to me like that. 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.920 And I watched, you know, I've watched so many people 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:20.560 come in and nobody's blow up come back down, like 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:23.800 you know, you try to warn them, but they're not 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:25.920 you know, they're not your people like that, But I 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:30.360 see the come rich back to broke. Who who are you? 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:32.600 Are you open to naming like names of like who 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:39.800 you've personally seen like up and down the ladder? I uh, 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.200 I don't remember exactly. I just seen it so much. 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.520 Um I'll tell you Nikki though Nicki Minaj is one 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.240 of them that Nicki Minaj to me, she's not broke 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.840 at by any means, But Nicki Minaj to me is 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.920 the perfect example of who you see on the way 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.120 up is what you see on the way down. And 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.520 she treated a lot of people like ship and then 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.280 you know, now she's not nowhere it is how does 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.200 she was? Yeah? You know what I mean? And I 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:09.880 say that I don't want to say, like, I got 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:14.000 beef with her, even though I do, but you know, 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.480 I don't want to have be for her. She for 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.680 some reason we got I'm not be for nobody. My 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.200 name is clean in the streets. And she's the one 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.400 person that like just just some foul ship to me. 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:30.040 And I was just like and then, you know, look 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:35.480 at people like Nori. He was up down. Now he's 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.840 all the way up. He's all the way up, all 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.800 the way. When I say he's all the way he's 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.080 all but he's still I spoke to him today for 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.760 like two hours. He still calls me. I would say this, 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.480 Nori was my first rapper friend, and Aliyah was my 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.600 first R and B friend, You know what I mean. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.480 He still calls me to this day and he's the 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.720 same Nori, but he's all the way up. Well, that's 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.200 like he hasn't changed. Even if you see how much 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.080 he's accomplished, always feel like people that are able to 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.560 especially in the industry, because it's so easy to burner 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.440 bridge with ego, like for him to be able to 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:15.160 accomplish what he's accomplished, he's clearly clearly a good friend 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:16.919 to people, right, but That's what I'm saying. The thing 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:21.200 about Nori is I watched him when he was just 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.160 you know, Nori had a couple of records out, and 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.920 he everybody would invite everyone to a studio, no matter 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.080 where you were. From first time I've ever met Two 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.360 Chains when he was Titty Boy, it was with Nori. 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.960 First time I've ever met UM three six Mafia was 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:38.439 with Nori. Every first time I met David Banner, they 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.399 would just come to his studio or his session that 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.359 he would always show them love. And now he's big 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.760 and they're big, and it's not like he just met 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.200 them to get him on his show. He's been knowing them. 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.600 He's been showing him love in New York. So now 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.840 it's coming back, you know, it's paying back. Yeah. So yeah, 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.560 I don't I don't let the ego. UM, I don't 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.720 let the ego get me. And then I fall into 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:06.680 situations where like, damn, if I was a little more um, 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.080 not egotistical, but if I was a little more loud 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.520 about my accomplishments, I might get more things at this time, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.880 Like I don't shout my accomplishments a lot, where other 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.120 people shout them all day long. Yeah. So I mean 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:24.800 people like you're known as like a legend, like you know, 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:28.280 you're on that legendary, like you have your own brand. 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.399 So I feel like there's a lot of respect people. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.879 There's a lot of stuff I got jerked on, missed 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:41.520 out on, or missed the opportunity, but I didn't. That's 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.760 weird because I didn't miss because I was doing another opportunity. 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:46.959 I just wish I would have, Like, as as I 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:48.679 looked back, I was like, I should have did that 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.200 instead of that. You know. I did an interview once 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:56.200 with Earthquake and he was talking about like, yeah, he's 0:18:56.200 --> 0:19:01.080 the best, let me he's got story. But one of 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:02.960 the things he had said was like I think I 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.119 had said something along the lines of like what was 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:07.200 that moment that you made? And he had said something 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:10.200 about like just like it was, there's never a time 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.240 where you make. It's just more like, you know, did 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.240 you cash in on the opportunity, like the type of deal. 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:17.879 Like I feel like you're still moving and shaking, Like 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:20.280 even though we're in the beginning of your story, there's 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.200 there's so much to unpack with you, you know, because 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.399 now you're just a huge stand up comic now. You know, 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:30.080 I'm gonna say huge, but but you're making your waves. 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:36.359 I'm like a hundred enjoy the journey type of person. 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.240 That's why I'm able to do all this stuff because 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:46.840 I like does struggle. I like the the climb. You know, 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.240 some people only want to get to the top. I'm 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:54.720 enjoying every night. I enjoy it. Yeah, I I am 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:58.399 a person that like loves the hero's journey, the hero story, 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:02.160 hence eating wall broke. I for these. Tell me how 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.119 it was. Speaking of that, you you name dropped a 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.160 couple of people, Like, so I'll name drop please. Let's 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.919 start with the bay dropping, Like, what's up? Were you 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:15.480 and ali Leah? I love Aliyah? Um, i'mally at the radios, 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.480 I mean the rappers I met was at seven or 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.840 the people in the industry. I mean at that time, 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:25.399 how nanty seven was on fire and everyone had to 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:27.320 come there. So that's where I met a lot of people. 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.520 But Aliyah was super, super cool. I met her at 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:32.680 the radio station, and I also we really got cool. 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.479 And funk Master Flex was doing some kind of MTV 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:40.400 Beach House. He was DJ and the beach House one 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.400 of them MTV things, and she was there, and there's 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.440 a famous picture where her and Mark Ronson, She's wearing 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:51.160 the hill figure. I'm in that picture, but I got 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.680 cut off the one that the picture that blew up. 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.920 It was just her Mark Ronson, I'm in that picture. Um. 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.639 She was super cool. She used to call me like 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.240 she saw like I was, like she was. This was 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:07.600 like right before one in a million drop, so like 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:11.120 right before she really really blew up. And I don't 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.080 know if she got my numbers somehow. Maybe I don't 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:15.840 even know. I don't remember, but she would call me 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.440 and check in on me, like I saw that. I was, like, 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:22.520 you know, intern at the radio station, getting flexus food 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.240 and setting up his records, and she would call, how's 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:27.360 it going, How you doing, You're doing this? You're doing? 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.959 Do you feel good? Like you're not stressed or nothing? Like? 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.320 He used to make me blush like when she would call, 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:36.760 Did you know now? Was that that was? I have 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:41.560 to mention this thing? But was that after the R 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:47.080 Kelly like anything? No? No, that was after because that 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:50.280 was the R Kelly situation was her first album and 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.280 that was all you know? Did you kind of know 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:56.040 about it at the time, not more than we all 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:58.639 did more than anybody. Like when that was in the news, 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:01.240 I mean I heard a lot of ship about our Kelly, 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:06.639 but we didn't know, like like it was always like 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:11.280 it's always like there's a lot of people like, oh no, 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:13.119 he'd be, you know, be careful over there. He'd be 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.800 with the young ones like like that. Yeah, I don't know. 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:18.439 I'm a kid too, Like I don't know what this means. 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:24.439 You know, you guys were around the same Ageah, yeah, 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:26.520 she might have been a year older or a year 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:28.960 younger like Kim. Like me and Kim at the same age. 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:30.840 So like when I was on tour with little Kim, 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.200 she's a superstar, but we're the same age. Like when 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:36.320 we go back to the hotel, she was like a 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:39.399 twenty year old, you know, but she just had this 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:44.119 whole big persona. If you had to put three of 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:47.440 these ladies in like a order of great I'm gonna 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:51.200 you already know who I'm gonna ask about, party Ya 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:55.400 and Nikki We're gonna leave at Lauren Hills would trump 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:58.840 all of them. But like greatest, Like if you had 0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:01.480 to choose like greatest in order, like who would be 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:05.080 your number one? I need I hate these lists. I 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:10.879