Speaker 1: Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
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Speaker 2: Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Speaker 2: Other Side.
Speaker 1: Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
Speaker 1: everything on the other side.
Speaker 2: Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
Speaker 2: or to some the invisible world, life is going to
Speaker 2: be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1: Uh heck, yes it can. Because let's be honest, br in,
Speaker 1: earth school is hard.
Speaker 2: In fact, you taught me that let's crush Earth School together.
Speaker 1: Well, hello, the Witchy of Pooh. How are you that
Speaker 1: is so bad? I mean, is this a great emoji?
Speaker 2: I'm just used to it. I think of it surely
Speaker 2: as affection, not as actuality.
Speaker 1: Affection only affection.
Speaker 2: How are you doing good? I'm good my house, Ye
Speaker 2: just rock and roll. How about you? What are you
Speaker 2: up to?
Speaker 1: Well, well, I'll tell you. This morning I went to
Speaker 1: ET for my ankle, so I'm like, do physical therapy
Speaker 1: on my ankle that I screwed up myself. And it's
Speaker 1: like at all I've done for the last week since
Speaker 1: I went to see the foot doctor. Lady is complain
Speaker 1: about because this, I think is my first marker about age,
Speaker 1: Like this is my first physical marker about age. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, get all this fucking sucks because before
Speaker 1: something might hurt and then it would like repair. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like this didn't do that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, great compassion. Self compassion is important.
Speaker 1: Oh they give me homework.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 1: That's awes anyway, already feeling better, but anyway, so that's
Speaker 1: what I'm doing on focusing on self care for my
Speaker 1: right ankle.
Speaker 2: Nice nice, nice, nice, good good good good. So also
Speaker 2: to remember, like even when you're going to bed at night,
Speaker 2: to imagine the etheric layer, the first layer of energy
Speaker 2: that wraps around the body, right, so it's that light
Speaker 2: blue grid. You can put your hands around and rub
Speaker 2: your palms together, right, open up those palm chakras, and
Speaker 2: then wrap your hands around your ankle and fire up
Speaker 2: the etheric layer and say, heal, heal, heal you. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to be standing on you, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to be demanding of you. Just download healing, strengthen, removing
Speaker 2: any inflammation, rebuilding tissues, blood flow, all of it, and
Speaker 2: go to bed, sweet. Yeah, it's really good. Right.
Speaker 1: Oh well, so here's what's going to be great. I
Speaker 1: will actually do this every single night, and then I'll
Speaker 1: go in the physical therapy and say, y'all need to
Speaker 1: refund my money because fix my shit by telling me
Speaker 1: what to do at night.
Speaker 2: You still need to work the tissues, my dear.
Speaker 1: I know, I actually do all. I'm really good when
Speaker 1: you give me homework. If you don't give me homework,
Speaker 1: I'm on my own and it's never pleasant.
Speaker 2: This will just enhance what you're already doing.
Speaker 1: Wait, thank you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so today, Yeah, what do we got today?
Speaker 1: We have a fabulous question from actually just and I
Speaker 1: believe it's a sheek is the way it's spelled. But
Speaker 1: jesse Cat is right. Jesse Katt had a really amazing question.
Speaker 2: What does jesse Kat have gone on?
Speaker 1: Such a great question? So here we go, miss jesse Kat.
Speaker 1: Of course, this is this is the best part. Hi again,
Speaker 1: Hi Darling, I'm back. Hi again. Wait till jesse Cat
Speaker 1: starts sitting high again times twelve? You know, so right?
Speaker 1: I love it. So it's high again. I have a
Speaker 1: question about the potential of interfering with someone's karma as
Speaker 1: an example, right, good question, she says. As an example,
Speaker 1: let's say you find let's say you find out you
Speaker 1: know someone is being cheated on or that someone is
Speaker 1: wronging them in some way. There are people out there
Speaker 1: who will not say anything to them about that because
Speaker 1: they don't want to interfere or get into business that
Speaker 1: isn't theirs. My question is, would spirit prefer if we
Speaker 1: all stood for what's right and informed? That's an assumption,
Speaker 1: by the way, Uh, what's right and inform someone when
Speaker 1: they are unknowingly being wronged or would it be interfering
Speaker 1: with their karma by doing so? And here's the second
Speaker 1: best part. Thanks for being awesome. Love love a cat,
Speaker 1: just a cat, Give you too.
Speaker 2: Honey, right back, right back, this cat. Such a rich,
Speaker 2: rich question And really, like I think for me as
Speaker 2: I'm navigating our school, this is the foundational game at play, right?
Speaker 2: How can I minimize the karma I'm creating? How can
Speaker 2: I offend the least amount of people by being spacious
Speaker 2: and acknowledging their individual expressions and not feel like I'm
Speaker 2: being taken advantage of or abandon my own responsibility or
Speaker 2: my own rights in an engagement like this, Is that
Speaker 2: that to me, this goes to the heart of my
Speaker 2: everyday anxiety, you know, as I'm trying to like do
Speaker 2: the you know this this phrase she has, like what's
Speaker 2: the right thing? Well, what's right is so subjective. It's
Speaker 2: so subjective because we can never operate by full information.
Speaker 2: We can't be all knowing right. We're not of their
Speaker 2: past lives, of other engagements. They may have an agreement
Speaker 2: that says, hey, you know, you get to express however
Speaker 2: you want. You know, we look at it as cheating,
Speaker 2: but they have an agreement they don't may not want
Speaker 2: people to know, or maybe a private thing, or it
Speaker 2: could absolutely be a betrayal. I mean, we don't have
Speaker 2: their standards. You know how that is we never know
Speaker 2: what goes on behind closed doors.
Speaker 1: Listen, I it's funny because I have found people that
Speaker 1: even and I'm going to say no things psychically, because
Speaker 1: the question isn't actually knowing things psychically. The question is
Speaker 1: like somebody may have told you kind of thing, and
Speaker 1: you know, your rule has always been if you don't ask,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell. So that's always been one of
Speaker 1: your you know, golden rules is like if you don't ask,
Speaker 1: don't tell. But I actually, you know, it's funny. What
Speaker 1: I found though, where I was getting is that I
Speaker 1: have I have noticed people who like to tell other
Speaker 1: people's stuff or tell them stuff that they hear about them.
Speaker 1: They think, whatever it may be, that there's something going
Speaker 1: on with them, like if there's right, like it's I've
Speaker 1: noticed certain types of people where uh, they have to
Speaker 1: be know it alls, you know, like there's they're proving
Speaker 1: that they know something with no thought of the damage
Speaker 1: that they're inflicting.
Speaker 2: In many communities, right, it could be family, could be social, community,
Speaker 2: or organized around some event or organization or whatever. Information
Speaker 2: is status, it's power, and so the more I know,
Speaker 2: the more the higher I am in the in the
Speaker 2: status of the community. And so that's you know, back
Speaker 2: in the day, that status would have been the neighbor,
Speaker 2: I'm bewitched. What was it, Gladys Gladys Kravitz? Is that right?
Speaker 2: Something like that?
Speaker 1: Okay, close enough, let's go with it.
Speaker 2: Okay, is that am I switching shows?
Speaker 1: Maybe? But you keep talking and I'm okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is I'm out of my land, y'all.
Speaker 2: But so, especially when things are held in confidence and
Speaker 2: then people say, well you know, it's not quite that way.
Speaker 2: So they may not have a full betrayal, but they will,
Speaker 2: you know, nod to like I'm in the note. That
Speaker 2: will elevate them. And you know, I feel like that
Speaker 2: does create some karma because you're actually doing damage to someone.
Speaker 2: Usually this is done behind someone else's back, and so
Speaker 2: that that does create karma is my personal interpretation of that.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Well, I think it was Gladys Kravitz. Oh, I got it,
Speaker 1: and it was bewitched, and and I have to tell
Speaker 1: you what's so funny is that Suzanne will always reference
Speaker 1: so and so is Gladys Kravitz. It's hilarious. I didn't
Speaker 1: know it's bewitched. And they even showed a picture I
Speaker 1: have to show you just so.
Speaker 2: You Yeah, she's looking out the window.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 2: I don't know a lot about the media, but bewitched.
Speaker 1: Totally no. So you know what I think my big
Speaker 1: good idea I think we should take I just looked
Speaker 1: at the time. It's take a quick break and let's
Speaker 1: come back and pick this up, because I think this
Speaker 1: is a really interesting kind of.
Speaker 2: Direction and welcome back.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was so funny. You so give
Speaker 1: us just the poof. The poof is fantastic. Okay, So
Speaker 1: where were we?
Speaker 2: We were talking about status and how when our ego
Speaker 2: is involved and we sometimes forget that we've pledged confidence
Speaker 2: to someone and you know, we're going for status.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I I think I faced a lot
Speaker 1: of this in the in the corporate world, you know,
Speaker 1: because everybody's looking for status, right, it's.
Speaker 2: A constant feeding frenzy.
Speaker 1: No, it's it is, it's it's constant. And yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I I saw a lot of people like I was
Speaker 1: so funny that this topic kind of comes up because
Speaker 1: there was a woman that I worked with and she
Speaker 1: was kind of known to be the one to just
Speaker 1: like repeat things off a page, like numbers or something
Speaker 1: like that, and did not have the ability to actually
Speaker 1: discern what the hell was going on in the room,
Speaker 1: you know, but like felt like she needed to be heard,
Speaker 1: and what she used as her tool was just this
Speaker 1: piece of paper that had there were numbers, but you know.
Speaker 2: Numbers, there was no content, context, no.
Speaker 1: Context, and they're not absolute, you know, they're all based
Speaker 1: on lots of different things. It's not like it's not
Speaker 1: always the only truth. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, Well, I worked in finance. Right, So I know
Speaker 2: that's tucking, but right, can you can cut the numbers
Speaker 2: any way you want?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 2: Right, So the numbers are real for how you cut them.
Speaker 2: But you can cut them this way, you can cut
Speaker 2: them in that way. You can slice it that way.
Speaker 1: Right, and you can use them as a weapon when
Speaker 1: there actually weren't intended to be a weapon like so
Speaker 1: that so and she was somebody who was looking to
Speaker 1: to level up her status, right, And I think karmically,
Speaker 1: I can I really can't reveal who this is. But
Speaker 1: I'm telling us you paying for it now because well,
Speaker 1: because she didn't, she didn't actually bother to learn the
Speaker 1: difference to discern from just you know, circulating the air
Speaker 1: around your head versus actually contributing something that was valuable.
Speaker 1: So we go back to the question about contributing something valuable.
Speaker 1: If someone thinks something or heard something, you know, that's
Speaker 1: not valuable information, you know, because if somebody's who's doing
Speaker 1: you wrong? I think it's there was a really great question.
Speaker 1: It's like, good lord, how many movies or TV shows
Speaker 1: have we had about somebody done wrong? Whatever the wrong
Speaker 1: may be. But there's all these wrongs And also how
Speaker 1: many times has that accusation been wrong? Right?
Speaker 2: Well, and that's and that's the thing, like I'm thinking
Speaker 2: about Jessica's question, and I think, you know, oftentimes we
Speaker 2: have our inner circle where we're where we would have
Speaker 2: literally had the conversation that says, you know, for me,
Speaker 2: it'd be like, girlfriend, if you ever get a line
Speaker 2: of sight on something I'm doing where I'm not seeing
Speaker 2: what's going on, or I'm crossing a line that I
Speaker 2: shouldn't or I'm getting close to a line that I
Speaker 2: don't see, like you have carte blanche, let me know,
Speaker 2: send up a flare like have and like you have
Speaker 2: to have my back. And and that's you know, that's
Speaker 2: one thing because if someone comes to you from outside
Speaker 2: you in your circle and says, so, how are things
Speaker 2: at home?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Right here right like bad bad karmount, Like that's I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not done out of grace, It's not it's not
Speaker 2: done out of caring for the person. It's literally like
Speaker 2: I've got the status now.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, I'm in charge.
Speaker 2: I have information yeah right, and I can lord it
Speaker 2: over you, you know, And it's you know, that's so
Speaker 2: I think how things are delivered is as important as
Speaker 2: what's delivered to agree.
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things that you've talked
Speaker 1: about for so long that I practice and I and
Speaker 1: I try to teach others is this very magical thing
Speaker 1: called permission. Yeah, And so I think that in this
Speaker 1: in these in this kind of general life scenario scenario
Speaker 1: that could be a bazillion different scenarios. The supplural of
Speaker 1: scenario is just so anyways, wondering keeping score that that
Speaker 1: if there is something that is that you think with
Speaker 1: somebody that you care about, because I think that's the
Speaker 1: other thing that if you're gonna if there's some somebody
Speaker 1: that you deeply care about and you have a suspicion
Speaker 1: or what you may call a fact, you know, I
Speaker 1: think you have to ask them because I'm going to
Speaker 1: tell you I've asked people things. It's like, do you
Speaker 1: want me to say this or call them in a way,
Speaker 1: and I've gotten no. M Yeah.
Speaker 2: But this is the thing. What's so beautiful about asking
Speaker 2: the question is you're literally putting other people in charge
Speaker 2: of their situation. When you show up with information and
Speaker 2: you know, without permission, that's that can feel like being
Speaker 2: victimized all over again.
Speaker 1: Exactly right, so I think there's ways to go about it, right.
Speaker 1: I think one way is, you know, you kind of
Speaker 1: have to have a checklist, And on that checklist is
Speaker 1: do I actually deeply care about this person that I
Speaker 1: have this information about. If the answer is yes, then
Speaker 1: you go to question two. If the answer is no,
Speaker 1: move on with your life.
Speaker 2: You're out. Yeah, you know, move on yeah, right, And
Speaker 2: that's that's why it's literally not my business. Correct, this
Speaker 2: is not a normal conversation this person and I would have.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have access to this information, right, right.
Speaker 1: And even when you ask yourself that question, ask it
Speaker 1: a couple times just to make sure your answer is
Speaker 1: the same, because there are people who like to feel
Speaker 1: important and they might actually think that, oh I do
Speaker 1: love this person, that person doesn't give two fucking shits
Speaker 1: about you. It's like, so it's you grandizing yourself, right,
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of that self grandizing that people
Speaker 1: will do to other people in their community with status,
Speaker 1: Like this is not forget any of this is just
Speaker 1: the flat ass truth, flat as no, flat out it's
Speaker 1: it can't help it saying ask whenever I can.
Speaker 2: So this is this is human nature, right. Status is
Speaker 2: important it's how we, you know, survive and thrive. That's
Speaker 2: what our ego would have us believe.
Speaker 1: So then you go number two. Number two is you
Speaker 1: make the decision this is somebody I deeply care about
Speaker 1: and I want to share information, and then you actually
Speaker 1: ask permission. It's like, I think I have something that
Speaker 1: you might want to know. But if you don't, it's
Speaker 1: super cool, you know, like you give people an out right,
Speaker 1: it's an invitation, but it's also you don't have to
Speaker 1: show up for the ball.
Speaker 2: And I also think it's important to say, look, I
Speaker 2: have information that not It doesn't matter how I came
Speaker 2: by it, but if it's not information you want it
Speaker 2: will it will stay with me? Like that's that's an important.
Speaker 1: Piece confidence exactly right. Yeah, and to let them know.
Speaker 1: And number three is I say yes, and then you're like, listen,
Speaker 1: I either saw this, I heard this, whatever, whatever evidence
Speaker 1: that you can put there and say take it for
Speaker 1: what it is. It may or may not be true,
Speaker 1: but it's but it's it felt important for you to
Speaker 1: have it if you wanted it, and then now you
Speaker 1: have it and you can do with it whatever you
Speaker 1: see fit. You can confront you cannot you can do
Speaker 1: whatever you choose, but like, that's a healthy relationship, not
Speaker 1: looking for status, that is based in love and respect
Speaker 1: and all of those things. And I got an interesting
Speaker 1: story for you. I think you make come back. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: And welcome back. So help you you have aye a while.
Speaker 2: You have a story for us about keeping confidence or confronting.
Speaker 1: I do, and and I'm sure you probably have the
Speaker 1: same story. And everybody that's listening has the same story.
Speaker 1: And it is at one of the people I love
Speaker 1: dearly in this world. So that checks off that box, right,
Speaker 1: So I kind of want to tell the story and
Speaker 1: go through these steps and check the box. And she's
Speaker 1: a very close friend of mine in Los Angeles and
Speaker 1: she met this woman that she started dating who I met, Uh,
Speaker 1: wasn't a fan of. Didn't say anything, right.
Speaker 2: It's not my business.
Speaker 1: It's like, if this is who she's into, attracted to,
Speaker 1: loves whatever, it may be, rock on, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So about six months into it relationship, she says to me,
Speaker 1: she goes, so, what do you think about what's her
Speaker 1: fake name that we were using, Sally?
Speaker 2: Sally?
Speaker 1: What do you think about Sally? Step number two? I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: of course, I have a point of view and thoughts,
Speaker 1: but do you want to hear them? Because if you don't,
Speaker 1: that's okay. Yeah, and she paused, She looked at me,
Speaker 1: and she goes, okay, tell me, I said, well, and
Speaker 1: I went on my not very complimentary list of what
Speaker 1: I actually thought. But it was out of love, right, Okay.
Speaker 1: So she ends up marrying this person, yeah, this Sally
Speaker 1: as kid. Oh, then if he gets a divorce, calls
Speaker 1: me and says, you were right, And I said, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be right, honey, I actually in this scenario,
Speaker 1: I wanted to be wrong. She's been no, like full
Speaker 1: on everything you said. And I go, yeah, I said,
Speaker 1: but it's not what any of this is about. What
Speaker 1: this is about. If this is what you had to
Speaker 1: do to get your little girl, then it was all
Speaker 1: worth it. It didn't matter what I said. I said.
Speaker 1: In fact, I'm glad you didn't listen to me, because
Speaker 1: you wouldn't actually be in the position of motherhood and
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be a parent, right, And so it's that
Speaker 1: whole story is fully, wholeheartedly a place of love, right,
Speaker 1: nothing outside I don't want like you.
Speaker 2: So you didn't go back with I told you so yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh not in a million years. I was devastated. I
Speaker 1: really was. I'm like, I am just so sorry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm yet so happy because of what you ended
Speaker 1: up like where you ended up in. This kid, by
Speaker 1: the way, is magnificent because she is a car and
Speaker 1: ask copy of our mom, and we need more of
Speaker 1: those in the world. So I don't want to be right,
Speaker 1: and I think that's also part of it is step
Speaker 1: somewhere between two and three is whatever information you think
Speaker 1: you have, and especially if it's going to hurt somebody
Speaker 1: that you love, that don't want to be right, it's
Speaker 1: okay to be wrong. And I think that's a really
Speaker 1: important piece of this whole thing, is that this isn't
Speaker 1: about right or wrong. And really what I believe that
Speaker 1: spirit wants us from us is whatever move that we make,
Speaker 1: whatever steps we take, it's out of love.
Speaker 2: I think, yes, I agree with all that, and that's
Speaker 2: that's a great story about this navigating this kind of situation.
Speaker 2: I think the difference in listening to Jack to jesse
Speaker 2: Kat's question is that it's one thing to say what
Speaker 2: do you think, because it's she was literally asking for
Speaker 2: you for your thoughts, not you someone coming with outside
Speaker 2: information beyond you that says true, Hey, you know this person,
Speaker 2: you know you should know this is going on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's a difficult.
Speaker 1: But even with that, if you decide to share it,
Speaker 1: you do it out of love. You don't do it
Speaker 1: out of being right, or you don't do it out
Speaker 1: because again I think it's that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and again what's right? We don't know? It
Speaker 2: takes you have to take in a much bigger picture
Speaker 2: and know be aware of your own bias and know
Speaker 2: that people live in very differently. Right now, I'm teaching
Speaker 2: my turo one class right online, and this is something
Speaker 2: that we're talking about a lot, because when someone comes
Speaker 2: to you for reading, they come and their field is
Speaker 2: wide open, their sole information is available, and all kinds
Speaker 2: of information comes through the spread, and you have to
Speaker 2: be checking your bias. So this whole concept of right
Speaker 2: and wrong how I navigate our school is completely irrelevant
Speaker 2: in that conversation. And to try and get students to
Speaker 2: wrap their brains around that is interesting and challenging and
Speaker 2: very frustrating for them, even to the level of someone's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you didn't even ask them what their question was.
Speaker 2: I'm like the question is irrelevant, you know, because whatever
Speaker 2: question they're asking, there's a whole bigger force at play
Speaker 2: that says, this is what we need to convey to
Speaker 2: this person and to be spacious with that. And it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that the client doesn't get to ask their
Speaker 2: question and then you can, you know, look for the
Speaker 2: answer in that way. But there's a whole there's this.
Speaker 2: Of course, I've want clients to have answers to the question,
Speaker 2: but in that moment, there's a bigger game at play.
Speaker 2: So I have to give what I get and it
Speaker 2: may not be frustrating, or I may they may be
Speaker 2: frustrated with me, but you know, it's about service. So
Speaker 2: like that's this element is will this information serve the person?
Speaker 2: Is not for me to decide. That's why you have
Speaker 2: to ask them, what do you want exactly?
Speaker 1: That's exactly You're exactly right, And that's the same thing
Speaker 1: that I've experienced. I'm sure you have too, where the
Speaker 1: question doesn't matter because yeah, anytime readings what people want
Speaker 1: to know versus what they end up with are radically different.
Speaker 2: Because usually it's a very small question they come with,
Speaker 2: not always, but and it's not small small sometimes it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, should I take this job? Well, you can,
Speaker 2: but you're missing this whole other thing.
Speaker 1: You're missing your soul journey.
Speaker 2: But okay, yeah I get that job as nice and
Speaker 2: shiny and sparkly, so yeah, take the job. Not take
Speaker 2: the job, but you still have to do this other thing.
Speaker 1: So I have another quick method just to share is
Speaker 1: that with information I think I've shared before that I
Speaker 1: have like this kind of mental pendulum in my head.
Speaker 1: So if I don't have one handy, I'll actually ask
Speaker 1: and I can feel it like twirl around in my brain,
Speaker 1: you know, like so if it goes if it goes clockwise,
Speaker 1: it's a yes. If it's a no, it goes counterclockwise.
Speaker 1: And sometimes I will actually in a lot of different situations.
Speaker 1: Usually it's because I shoot my mouth off too much,
Speaker 1: so I kind of have to find ways to kind
Speaker 1: of calm that kitty cat down. Since you're talking about Jess, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to calm that kittie dad shut the hell up.
Speaker 1: Sometimes but sometimes I'll ask like should I share this information?
Speaker 1: And I get yes as I get no's, And that
Speaker 1: might be a way another way for people just to
Speaker 1: be like, you know, do I need to do this
Speaker 1: because you might get to know and that could be
Speaker 1: that spirit saying no, no, no, no, yeah, this is not yours.
Speaker 2: It's not the right time, yeah yeah, or it's just
Speaker 2: not the right time. And a good way to do
Speaker 2: that is sometimes closing your like I close my eyes
Speaker 2: a lot when I talk, but asking spirit to show
Speaker 2: me like just a simple simple red light, green light?
Speaker 2: Is this time? Is this Because in the coaching world,
Speaker 2: we you know, have guidance that say it's the right
Speaker 2: conversation at the wrong time. Is the wrong conversation totally?
Speaker 2: So is this the right conversation at the right time?
Speaker 2: And then you just close your eyes just for a
Speaker 2: breath or two, and you may get an image, or
Speaker 2: you may get a feel for a green light or
Speaker 2: a red light. Just keep it really simple, because we
Speaker 2: in our minds, we don't know what's right for them.
Speaker 2: We don't have the full picture. So the right or
Speaker 2: wrong conversation is off the table. It's just off the table.
Speaker 2: Will this serve them is more helpful question?
Speaker 1: I think, I think that is exactly the right question.
Speaker 1: And I have gotten a lot of no's when I've
Speaker 1: done that, and I didn't, like, you know, I have
Speaker 1: to I don't need to do this. It isn't mine.
Speaker 2: And what's not obvious what to me is obvious. But
Speaker 2: we haven't talked about if you bring up something that
Speaker 2: is the wrong conversation at the wrong time, that's something
Speaker 2: that doesn't serve them, they will resent you. And so
Speaker 2: now you have karma with them.
Speaker 1: You don't want that, right, you already have enough. Well
Speaker 1: that's what I always look at us like, I got plenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's my goal, definitely. But such a
Speaker 2: great question, such a thoughtful question. And and you know
Speaker 2: when that many of our sensitive listeners I would imagine
Speaker 2: are contending with on the regular.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I'm just going to say one thing
Speaker 1: about my friend's story. They just want to be real clear.
Speaker 1: Yeah that one of the things that I had said
Speaker 1: is that she's a bit of a gold digger, because
Speaker 1: that's the message that I got, and that message was right.
Speaker 1: So it was rough. It was like you asked, are
Speaker 1: you sure? Yeah, And I've actually this hard come up
Speaker 1: multiple times with different people. Interestingly, I haven't said it
Speaker 1: every time YE might come up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And follow following your guidance in these situations
Speaker 2: is essential.
Speaker 1: But I got the yes, so Jesse Yeah, anyway, jess Kat,
Speaker 1: you the best kitty I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are just on it. Just Kat, very thoughtful
Speaker 2: navigating our school with compassion, and you know, very very
Speaker 2: wise in your questions. Good luck let us know how yeah.
Speaker 1: And really hope that. I mean, we've given everybody I
Speaker 1: don't know, minimum three, maximum eight kind of things to
Speaker 1: process through when they're faced with something like this, So
Speaker 1: pick and choose what works, and please let us know.
Speaker 1: I want to know if other people can make like
Speaker 1: the red light green light like you do. I also
Speaker 1: like to close my eyes a lot when I talk.
Speaker 1: I see better. And yeah, and or you use the
Speaker 1: little pendulum acxium in your head or whatever you come
Speaker 1: up with. Really want to hear what it is because
Speaker 1: I think that it's a really it's it's fairly accurate.
Speaker 1: It's been really accurate for me.
Speaker 2: Right, So with that, thanks for listening everybody, and remember
Speaker 2: our school is hard.
Speaker 1: Without the other side. And Jesse Kat, thanks everybody.
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