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Visit audible dot com, slash I 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: heart or text I Heeart to five hundred, five hundred. 28 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: My Next Guest is a fashion authority, stylist, designer, entrepreneur, 29 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: influencer and mentor. For over twenty five years, she has 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: been a renaissance woman at the forefront of shifts and fashion, 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,639 Speaker 1: music and culture. She has acclaimed for creating iconic looks 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: that simultaneously capture an unfair to givable moment while setting 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: the stage for whateveryone would want to wear next. How 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: Fashion Academy mentors up incoming talents and styling, providing invaluable 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: skills and how to start a career in the fashion industry. 36 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: Please work on the Monday Making conversation Mysa Hilton Hi. 37 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: How are you, thank you for having me, thank you 38 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: for being on my show. Uh where you located it? 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: Right now? I'm in New York right now my favorite city. Uh. 40 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: Or you're a New Yorker? Did you your transplant? Tell 41 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: me about that. Yes. No, I'm from Mount Vernon, New 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: York originally, which is our Westchester County, the suburbs and 43 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: um born and raised. Awesome. So when once it is iconic, 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, you talk about you know, the most iconic 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: is the you know, how did these ideas come in 46 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: your head? When it comes to fashion, I want to 47 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: get that person out because you do. What you're not 48 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: gonna do is be oh, you know, hello, not with 49 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: what you created. Not have you shocked the world. You 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: have to sell people on things that you fashion and 51 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: that they're a little good. Oh no, girl, don't worry 52 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: bout it's gonna be on point. Well first on, my 53 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: My creativity is very intuitive, right. So I'm inspired by people. 54 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm inspired if it's a if it's a musician, I'm 55 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: inspired by their lyrics, by the rhythm, by the melody, 56 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: by their music, by their performance, and um. From there, 57 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: I just idea start to flow. And then once the 58 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: idea start to flow. I have to be able to 59 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, organize them and put some put them together 60 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: and sell them to the client, but also to the 61 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: companies that they work for and potentially the management and 62 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: all of the decision makers because image is an important 63 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: part of selling any project or a part of any clients. 64 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: Um uh, you know, image, images, everything, you know, So 65 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: for me, it's like that's the process I have to 66 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, I become inspired. I get to know my 67 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: clients as people first and find out what their goals are, 68 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: who they are, you know, what they love, what they're into, 69 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: and how they see themselves, and then I go I 70 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: take it from there. And that's always been my guest, 71 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: even before I was a fashion style which I was 72 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: able to do that with my friends, my aunties, my neighbors. 73 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: I was styling everyone. Now this is the person I 74 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: wanted an interview in New York now because you know, 75 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: would you say the Little Kim moment is truly the 76 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: iconic moment for you. I know you do a lot 77 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: of amazing things, but you know, I could just reach 78 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: back there and that's one of those times and where 79 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: you can go where were you in? Did you see 80 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: it live? Did you see it happen. How did that? 81 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: First of all, let's talk about getting at the designing 82 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: that outfit, and then, like you said, you you tied 83 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: to the personality who or who's willing to take that risk, 84 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: who's willing to carry that fashion moment out? Tell us 85 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: how that played out with little Kim and and expounding 86 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: in detail. Okay, So one weekend I was hanging out 87 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: with Missy Elliott and we were listening to music, talking 88 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: about fashion and you know, all that kind of stuff, 89 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: and she was like, you know what, if I was Kim, 90 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: I would just have I ought to be careful what 91 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: I said on the radio, I guess, But can I 92 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: just say what? She said? No, you can shuts down now. 93 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Our relationship be over with the seconds. Okay, So she said, 94 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: you know what if I would let me, let me, 95 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: let me do my best here. Yeah, you know, kind 96 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: of like kind of like to take a deep breath 97 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: and then'll give you trying to put like five words 98 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: to that one word that you want to say, because 99 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna take by five words to get it out right. Okay, 100 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a little worthy that. Don't don't worry 101 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: about it. You're gonna get a little worthy then what 102 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: you would have done at the moment? I got you, 103 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: I got you. So she said, you know, if I 104 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: was Kim, I would do something very risque. You know, 105 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: I would just you know, have one part of my 106 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: body exposed, because you know, little Kim could do something 107 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: like that, because she's so edgy and over the top. 108 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: You know, she could really pull that off. And I said, 109 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: m M. And I just you know, put that idea 110 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: in the back of my head and I was like, wow, 111 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: that is something that would be something, wouldn't it. And 112 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: so the next big event that we had comment for 113 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: a Little Kim was the nine MTV Music Video Awards, 114 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: I mean Music Music Awards, and um, I went, I 115 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: went into I went into my my my mind, and 116 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: I said, and I pulled that idea, and I said, 117 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: in my memory bank I put the idea. And because 118 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: it was so riscar, I wanted to make it really 119 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: beautiful and ornate and fun. And so I shopped for 120 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: Indian bridle fabric, which was really beautiful with silber and 121 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: lavender and white and lace, and you know, it was 122 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: very um, feminine and girly. And from that material, I 123 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: also made um a Pasti's pasties that would go over 124 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: the left side of our body and up her arm. 125 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 1: And it was just me being crea eative. I didn't 126 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: think much about it, you know, it just I love 127 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: the idea. Kim thought it was amazing. We had just 128 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: came off of the Crushed Room You video where we 129 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: did the primary colors of red, blue, green, yellow, but 130 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: we wanted to go into pastel colors. We wanted to 131 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: try the lavender wigs and and the color lavender, and 132 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: so we just did it. And I'm telling you, we 133 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: had no idea that it would be as off the 134 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: hook as it was. I mean, we shot a videos 135 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: that evening after the war, so we were working all 136 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: night indoors, and back then we can have social media, 137 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: so we didn't know what was going on. We didn't 138 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: know the whole world was in a frenzy. When I 139 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: came outside after shooting it was actually the Quiet Storm 140 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: video with Mobb Deep and Little Kim. When we finished that, 141 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: we must have been about nine am. And when I 142 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: came outside, I spoke. The first call I got was 143 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: from my mom and she said me, so you are 144 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: all over the news, on the in and in the 145 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: newspaper for this look you did were little Kim, She said, 146 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm really surprised you would do something like that, Mom, mom, 147 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: just with real only with church on you, my baby baby, 148 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: you know the girl that the church ain't gonna look 149 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: at me? Right now? I think that that that center 150 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: a little Kim, Come on that baby. I love you. 151 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: But that's a moment I'm about to pray about real. Yes, 152 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: And you know what, what what didn't what really put 153 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: it on the top with Diana wrong though, Oh yeah, 154 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: that's what she touched. When she touched it, I was like, 155 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, please don't fall off, please, but if 156 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: stay And it was and that was a moment that 157 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: goes down in history, but you know, it was really organic. 158 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: It was just, you know, back then that we didn't 159 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: have a lot of people with opinions being overbearing in 160 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: our lives. We really were in a creative bubble, and 161 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: we didn't have social media. So a lot of the 162 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: things that I was able to create were so special 163 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: and iconic because they were untapped, and so I got 164 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: to create from a place of authenticity and a place 165 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: that represented my clients really well. And then from that place, 166 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, it becomes art and people appreciate it. And 167 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: so I'm really grateful because that's, you know, a moment 168 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: that is still alive and well and emulated to this day. 169 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: You still see people has not been tapped though okay, 170 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: let's gonna be real, not has not been topped. And 171 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: I yeah, you know that was here that phrase break 172 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: the Internet. If the Internet would have been alive, and 173 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: that would have broke it. The moment when when Diana 174 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: Ross lifted it, lifted her up, that would have shut 175 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: down the Internet. That would have been viral. That would 176 00:09:53,960 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: have been like, that's still been viral. That's congratulate as 177 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: on that moment because that allows, you know, sometimes you 178 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: have to hold on to certain things and that's like 179 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: something that that's you know, if that that's that's that's 180 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: that's fashion history, that's TV history, that's icon at moments 181 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: that that From a creative perspective, I wanted to make 182 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: sure people understand understood doing this interview that was you, 183 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: that was you, because there's a lot of people who 184 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: are non African Americans, they assume they're the one who 185 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: create these moments. And I do people that on the 186 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: show like MTV, which we know is a watch and 187 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: you have the talent on there that you guys were 188 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: able to get through the system properly and to come 189 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: on TV like that and the world accepted it and 190 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: then blew it up and blew it up. Yeah, yeah, 191 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: thank you. Wow. So so what what what what? What? 192 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 1: What was the moment after that when you when that 193 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: was just spinning and rotating around. I'm sure your name 194 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: was on everybody's lips, you know, you you know, but 195 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: it also can be a bad thing because people can 196 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: like pigeonholed you to a certain style. Yes, yeah, that 197 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: journey after that big, iconic, iconic moment, Yeah that is true. 198 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean, um, it was an exciting time and then 199 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: into what you just said a very true but you 200 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: brought that up that I did have clients after that. 201 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: I would say, well, you know, I just you know, 202 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm not I can't pull battle. I I don't want 203 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: something like that. And I would have to say, now 204 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: I connect with my clients as individuals. I was That 205 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: was a moment for Kims. I would never duplicate or 206 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: we try to relive that moment over and over again 207 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: because I was just I was special for her, you know, 208 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: and my my styling and my can activity is divine. 209 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: It comes from God. It's my gift. So I works 210 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: through me and and and with God working through me, 211 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: he has something for everybody through my gifts. And so 212 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: I would have to let people know that some songs 213 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: to reassure them, like, you don't have to worry. I 214 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: know that's not your style. I know that you're not risque, 215 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: and that I wasn't even thinking about going and I 216 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: start action with you. So that did happen at time, 217 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: But overall, I think that people appreciated at the moment. 218 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: I think that they thought it was really special. It was, 219 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: and yeah, it was something that, um you know that 220 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: continues to live on and whether you like it or not, 221 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: you remember it. You looked at it, and you appreciated 222 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: it for what it was. And I think that it 223 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: was in total alongment with Kim and her lyrics on 224 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: who she is as an artist, Awesome on the phone 225 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: is uh Lissa hilt Him. She has conceived the groundbreaking 226 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: styles for the world's biggest celebrities, including Mary J. Blind, 227 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: fifty Cents, Mr Elliott Faith Evans, Sean Combs and commor 228 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: Lee Simmons, and many others. Uh, she come back on 229 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: our next break, We're going to talk about something that 230 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: the reason I brought on the show was her Fashion 231 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: Academy and professional studies courses at the Fashion Institute of Technology. 232 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: Because when you're a groundbreaking person, you gotta know how 233 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: you can get in touch with it. You gotta know 234 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: if she's sharing these skills when she shared, hearing these 235 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: skills because she mentors and she pays it forward. We'll 236 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: be back with more moneymaking conversations with my fantastic friend. 237 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: She's open up now, she's comfortable now with Rashard McDonald. 238 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: Maybe she can design something for me, you know, some 239 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: butt out pants like prints and something like that. You know, 240 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: you know this was Sean McDonald. I'm on the phone 241 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: my good friend, Miss Hilton. You know she tried to 242 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: come on and just do me with this little hi 243 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: Miss Hilton, confess just a small community outside of New 244 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: York and everything that I had a bustle down. You know, 245 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: you legendary girl. Come on now, your legendary Trybaka Film Festival. 246 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: See you can't, you can't. You can't play me like that, 247 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: Miss Hilton. Now you know, try Beka Film Festival. Movie 248 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: coming out documentary May second, come on? Now, how are you? 249 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: How are you trying to be so humble and your 250 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: bold start in the fashion and music industry? People know you. 251 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: I bet you. I walk your house is a who's 252 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: who on your wall? Well, you know, I'm pretty I'm 253 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: pretty humble in mom if you're right about that. But 254 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: you know what my work speaks from you. I let 255 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: that do the talking. It's really interesting because you're humble 256 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: and that that's great. But when do you turn it on? 257 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: Because you gotta sell people on your idea and you 258 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: have to be able to talk and communicate, but also 259 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: not be too arrogant, you know, because because they go okay, 260 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: it could be they could be turned off because you're 261 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: dealing with that look, why do you think your look 262 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: gonna work for me? And then you have to be 263 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: able to be virsatile that you're not duplicating looks. So 264 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: you're sitting at home on the drawing pad, you're at 265 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: that right hand busy. Yeah yeah, but I could. I 266 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: couldn't be arrogant if I tried. And you know, for me, 267 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: it's just about connected with the I think one of 268 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: my strength is I'm just I'm really confident, So um 269 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: that comes across. That's energy, right, So you feel that 270 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: before I can't even say anything. And because I'm so 271 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: connected with my clients, they appreciate that, so then they 272 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: trust me, so then they're willing to try, you know, 273 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: what they're willing to. First of all, I get to 274 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: understanding of what they want, so that's always incorporated in 275 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: anything that I'm creating for them. And then if I 276 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: want to do something a little outside of their comfort zone, 277 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: they trust me because I made the connection already. So 278 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: I think it's about confidence and just being positive and 279 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: bringing good energy because fashion is fun, you know, so 280 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be anything that has to make you feel 281 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: worried and anxious or concerned. It should be something that's 282 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: a celebration of who you are. And so that's the 283 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: energy I bring. So do you have a podcast or anything? 284 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: Because you looks like you should be doing a podcast, 285 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: because I don't. I don't. Okay, okay, I don't manage 286 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: this is this is another client. I gotta pick up 287 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: y'all people, Commlige, all these superstars over here. I don't. 288 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: I don't. Who wouldn't want to listen to you? All 289 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: these celebrity friends that you get on. There is only 290 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: all you have to do one day, week, twenty five 291 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: minute podcast, and your brand will be out there probably 292 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: getting twenty five downloads a week. Wow, that sounds good. Yeah, Okay, 293 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk later. Let's let's talk about this fashion academy. 294 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: Because see, I see already I've warned her over she 295 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: understands when she's talking to no Us about the fashion 296 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: academy that you started, and why so important as far 297 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: as what you're trying to do as far as spreading 298 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: the knowledge of fashion as well as mentoring people and 299 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: allowing people to break in the industry that really is 300 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: kind of closed if you don't have the right right relationships. Yeah, 301 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: it's it's so true. So I found that the mesa 302 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: Health and Fashion Academy would my fellow celebrity stylish John 303 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: Husbonds in two thousands twelves, and we wanted to create 304 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: a place for people who were interested in fashion where 305 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: they can learn and get the skill set and the 306 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: knowledge that they needed for also like master their creative 307 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: gifts and understand how to monetize them, because that's what 308 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: it's all about. Right When you have a creative gift, 309 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: they have to understand how to monetize it, but you 310 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: also have to understand the culture of the business, the 311 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: skill set, that etiquette, and that's a lot of times 312 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: what keeps people from being from getting in the door 313 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: because they just don't understand what they're walking into and 314 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: how to actually get their foot in the door and 315 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: how to stay in the door um and create mangevity 316 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: around a career that they that they're trying to start. 317 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: So we created a curriculum that was, you know, really 318 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: easy to understand, that was comprehensive, and it's a ten 319 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: month program and that the end of ten months are 320 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: our students who graduate are able to start working as 321 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: interns and assistance while they're doing their own jobs. And 322 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: we also highly recommend, almost insist that our students start 323 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: in internships because there's that's like a that's that's the 324 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: greatest gift you can ever receive, and in any career 325 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: that you want to get into, but especially fashion, if 326 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: you get to intern for someone who's doing exactly what 327 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: you want to do, you get to learn everything. You 328 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 1: get to see how they troubleshoot, you get to see 329 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: how they work their relationships, you get to see how 330 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: they sell their creative ideas and how they how they 331 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: lead and lead a creative team and those that's priceless 332 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: to get that kind of first hand information without having 333 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: a responsibility. I know you're rare to do interviews and 334 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: because they told me with Sean, she don't really do 335 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: a lot of interviews. And I feel blessed to have 336 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: you on here because the fact that I just want 337 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: to get your story out to a group of people 338 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: that may have may have kind of like google your 339 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: name kind of like that. And here the here the 340 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: human side of you, the passion side of it, because 341 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: that's what because we start talking about life coaching and mentoring, 342 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: that just so I and even when you were talking 343 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: about the academy, it just it just it was just 344 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, interning, being able to give more 345 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: for your dreams. And I understand it's not all about 346 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: getting paid. It's about the opportunity, because I would if 347 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: you give me an opportunity, IM gonna get paid. So 348 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna get paid. The money always comes, and so 349 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: for me, it was about giving back. I'm grateful for 350 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, my journey. I'm grateful for every every single 351 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: opportunity that I had, and so for me, it was 352 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: a way of giving back to the next generation that 353 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: creative and so that's you know, it's a bit, it's 354 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: a it's a huge part of my legacy. And I'm 355 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: also an adjuent professor at s I T and I'm 356 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: really really proud about that. So, you know, giving back 357 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: it's just really close to my heart. It's something that 358 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: um is important for me. When I make it, I 359 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: want to bring other people forward with me, you know, 360 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: I want to share knowledge. One of my favorite quotes 361 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: it's for my angel when you get gifts, when you learn, 362 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: teach and I lived by that awesome. Now let's talk 363 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: about the mc M partnership. That's the entrepreneurship side of you, 364 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: because first of all, you started out just working your talent, 365 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: starting to establish your brand and just this's a hustle. 366 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: We all start out with a hustle, you know, trying 367 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: to just trying to get people to believe in. Then 368 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: you get a couple of steps out there, then all 369 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden, somebody say, hey, you need to get 370 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: what's your name of your business? Business? Just just check 371 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: to my name. That's one the money and so now 372 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: you're doing a major partnership with m c M. Tell 373 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: my because the show is called Money Making Conversations. I 374 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: always like to hear you young entrepreneurs hear that story. 375 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: How how did that come about? Well, I've always been 376 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: a big fan of m c M since I was younger. 377 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: Back in the days, m c M was like one 378 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: of the biggest fluxury brands, believe it or not, bigger 379 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: or more popular than Louis Vuitton and Gucci, and so 380 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: I remember my aunties having those bags, and I remember 381 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: the music artists and the rappers that I looked up to. 382 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: They wore m c M office that Dapper Dam would 383 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: be um creating and so m c M has always 384 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: been really special and close to my heart. And last April, 385 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: I was hired by m c MS to create some 386 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: custom pieces for Big Daddy Kane, Rhapsody and Ninth Wonder 387 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: and it was for the m c M Puma collaboration. 388 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: So I created custom pieces that would accent these sweatsuits 389 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: that were MCM and Puma for the Collapse. And shortly 390 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: after that, I was appointed Global creative Partner because there 391 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: was a huge success and an interests around what that 392 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: I you know the custom pieces that I had created 393 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: for the brand. But the crazy part is that Beyonce 394 00:21:54,080 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: style is or the the U m cm out the 395 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: trench that I made for Big Daddy Kane, and she 396 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: contacted me and was like, I want one for Beyonce 397 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, absolutely clean, people off our table, 398 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:18,239 Speaker 1: excuse me, excuse me, and so um so she told me, 399 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: and so I said, okay, you know, send me as 400 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: her measurements. Of course i'll get I'll make you run 401 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: right away. And so like a couple of weeks went 402 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: by and I reached out. I said, hey, Serena, you 403 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: still want to jacket and she said yes, but I 404 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: just want to make sure she's gonna wear it before 405 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: you go through all the trouble to make it. And 406 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: I said, oh man to myself, but I was like, okay, 407 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: well we want to make it anyway, whether she wears 408 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: it or not, but I'd be honored. So maybe about 409 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: another week went by and Serena calls me and she's like, Mesa, 410 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: I need a full m c M look. Okay, I 411 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: need the jacket, but I need a full look and 412 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: I need it in three days and I need you 413 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: to get it shipped to Paris. I said, has anybody 414 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: passed through the money around you? That's all I wanted 415 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: as we excuse me, miss Hilton, where is the money? 416 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: It does? It does? And she was ready to pay 417 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: like she was weighing. So she all the business got 418 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: taken care of, and I just I when you know again, 419 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: I told you my creativity is intuitive. I just saw 420 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: a boost, I saw a penny, I saw the motorcycle trench, 421 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: and then Serena wanted to pay a skates um. So 422 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: we made air rings, a cap, a trench, a boost 423 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: with a matching penny. It looked like a body suit. 424 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: Made it all in three days over Memorial Day weekend, 425 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: and had a ship world that expressed to Paris. Now 426 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: at this point, I still don't know what it's for. 427 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: I've been in this business a very long time, and 428 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: I know that you don't ask any questions, especially with 429 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: an artist like Beyonce. You just get it done. And 430 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: so I got it done. And I found out when 431 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: the world found out that it was for her eight video. 432 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: It was for it was her. It was for her 433 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: music video which was um the you know the song 434 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: feature from her her album with jay Z. Everything is 435 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: love and um. She also used this the images from 436 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: the video for international campaign, which was usual worldwide. So 437 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: that was another iconic moment. It was another moment um 438 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: that became bigger than life. 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