1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: There is. I don't coach for trophies. It's amazing to 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: get trophies. I don't coach for trophies. That coach to 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: change these kids lives and to challenge them and to 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: believe in them, and to be a mentor for life 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: for these kids competing at anything. Guess you where you 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: want to go. I don't cap his business. I don't 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: care what it is. Go find the best. China lats 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: out to him. We'll find the past, next person and 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: go learn from that. This is the Reformed Sports Project, 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: a podcast about restoring healthy balance and perspective in all 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: areas of sports through education and advocacy. Hi, this is 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: Nick Bonacoort from the Reform Sports Project podcast. Joining me 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: today is coach Dan mulrooney, head football coach at and 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: Maria College, named e CFC Coach of the Year. Coach. 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: Mulrooney took a team that finished one and nine back 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: in two thousand and sixteen and transform them into a powerhouse, 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: leading them to their first conference championship and n c 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: A playoff. Birth in Dan, thanks for hopping on, co 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: appreciate you man. Yeah, thanks, Nick, this is amazing. I'm 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: really honored to be on the podcast with you are. 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: You're doing a great job really highlighting some great things, 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: so I appreciate it. I know your voice isn't perfect. 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: You just came off of a freaking unbelievable season. Recap 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: us real quick on where your football team is now, 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: what you just accomplished, and will kind of dive in. Yeah, man, 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: I mean we literally went worse the first and about 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: three seasons. It's one of those Cinderella stories. It's really 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: just just an amazing feet I'm not boasting my own 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: horn here too much, but you know, it came into 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: the program in seen program at seven teen players total, 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: seventeen total players at a college, seventeen total players in 32 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: the college, and the previous coach I got fired in 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: the middle of the season. Uh. They started the program 34 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: in two thousand nine and never really got off their feet. 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: We had seven teen players at the school when I 36 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: had my first team meeting, and I looked around and 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, it's gonna be a hell 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: of a story. And you know, three years later he 39 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: got a hundred freshmen, you know, hundred sophomores, hundred juniors 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: and really built it the right way. And then this 41 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: season here. It just went seven in two and got 42 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: the n C Double A playoffs, became conference champs. So 43 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: just an unbelievable story. Super proud of my coaches and 44 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: my players at the school and just sticking with it. 45 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: Just perseverance, determination. One of those things you read about it. 46 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: Are you seeing the movies? Man? This is awesome. There's 47 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: a couple of things I want to dig in here. 48 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: First of all, congratulations to you and the staff and 49 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: the players. Man, I see the pictures, the tweets. I mean, 50 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: the energy is ridiculous. You can just see the joy 51 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: and these young men and coaches and yourself obviously creating 52 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: memories for life. But you know, the first little background 53 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: about you. One of the best players that ever played 54 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: in the state of Connecticut, certainly in our area growing 55 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: up of Waterbury, went to BC, went to Stony Brook, 56 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: played at a high level. You know, obviously one of 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: the best players in the state of Connecticut at that time. 58 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: So success and working and being gritty, it's something you're 59 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: not unfamiliar with. But I gotta tell you, you know, 60 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure this was your first head coaching job. 61 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: You look at the roster, seventeen players, what the hell 62 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: made you take the job? Yeah, you know, I was 63 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: a young guy. I was twenty seven years old. I 64 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: had just started coaching my first job with Chris Robertson 65 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: at the e P. I got a stony brook after 66 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: my playing career, didn't know exactly what to do after school. 67 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: It was an idea that when it was presented to me, 68 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, if someone could do it, it 69 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: it could be me. Um. It was exciting to take 70 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: it as a young guy. I think I was the 71 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: youngest that coach in the country at the time. But 72 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's just something that you really 73 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: just embody. You know, something that you just you felt 74 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: right at the time when I took it and was 75 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: it you know, it could be your last head coaching job. 76 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: A lot of people said I can't win, there, can't 77 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: do it, and that motivated me as a person. I 78 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: know you and you know me. I'm a ultra competitor 79 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: in every sense of the word. It's just, you know 80 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: something that that drove me. I think is the key. 81 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: One thing. I really want to dig in with you 82 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: here when I see those pictures, want to see the 83 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: video on you on your school's Twitter feed and the 84 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: football feed and of course you're the joy man. The camaraderie, 85 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: the love that not only you guys have, but the 86 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: kids have for each other. And I know from my experience, man, 87 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: I've been on losing teams. I was fortunate to be 88 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: on a national championship team in college. And when I 89 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: got there, the head coach at the time, Mike Fox, 90 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer coach at University of North Carolina for 91 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: twenty plus years of in baseball, he had built this 92 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 1: culture where it didn't need to be said by him, 93 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: right the seniors the juniors. Ever, Like when I came 94 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: in as a freshman, you just kind of fell in line. 95 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to explain another than it 96 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: was just you just go there and you expect to win. 97 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: I think if you've ever been a part of that, 98 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: you know what, It's really hard to express in words. 99 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: You just kind of fall in line. But how do 100 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: you build that? Right? So it sounds to me and 101 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: I look at your pictures with these kids, I'm like, man, 102 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: they got a culture here. How do you get them 103 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: to buy and how do you build that team chemistry, 104 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: that camaraderie. Yeah, I think you know you nailed on 105 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: the head, Nick, I mean, don't explain your philosophy, embody it, 106 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: believe it. The best way to be a leader is 107 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: to lead by example. You have to have this energy 108 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: that just exudes out of you. On Friday night before 109 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: the game, it was senior day. We had seniors. We 110 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: had an emotional three hour meeting. Every senior talked, emotions 111 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: were high. How much love and passion we have for 112 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: the game without recruit players. The first thing I asked 113 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: him over anything else, is how much do you love football? 114 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: And if the thing that I had the mouth is 115 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: I can't live without it, I tell him not to 116 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: come here. I want players. Is that love it? Like 117 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: really love it and with passion and not love like 118 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: a like a now, but love like a verb. You 119 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: know what are they're willing to sacrifice? What they're willing 120 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: to give, you know, to me, to the program, to 121 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: the to the game. And that's really what you need 122 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: to be a college athlete. It doesn't matter that the 123 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: level you play, It matters how much you're willing to give. 124 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: And I think that the emotions that you saw on 125 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: the videos, those are real, man. I mean the confetti 126 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: going up, the crying, the love, the sharing the culture. 127 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: To me, culture is an oversaid word, I think in sports, 128 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: to me cultures, if you speak the same language with someone, Right, 129 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: if I went into France and obviously I'm speaking English, 130 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: you know I'm not part of that culture. You know. 131 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: But if you come into our program and you talk 132 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: about ring the bell, and you talk about the key 133 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: words that we use, and you talk about family, you 134 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: talk about the things that we use in our program, 135 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: we all speak the same language every single day, and 136 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: we're connected to each other and connected teams win championships. 137 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: I've been a part of four championship teams. Um, you know, 138 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: when we're all all in one big group chat together 139 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: and we're all talking every day, and those are the 140 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: special things I'm making and I think that's why we want. Man, 141 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm getting goose bump. So I was fortunate to be 142 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: a part of two championship teams and everything you're saying, 143 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I know that feeling, and I think 144 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: until you go through that, it's really hard to It's 145 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: just it's something special. It's being a part of something 146 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: greater than yourself. And I try to preach that it's 147 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: an interesting time, right. A lot of this scene, and 148 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the youth amateur scene. May not be 149 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: specifically for football maybe, but there's a lot of showcasing 150 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: going on. I gotta get mine, I gotta put myself 151 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: on a pedestal to get seen. How do you manage 152 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: that as a fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year old kid going 153 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: on social media so that you can be seen while 154 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: at the same time being a team guy. I mean, 155 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: is it possible, you know, to be someone out there 156 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: self promoting but at the same time being all in 157 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: for your team. Yeah. I think it's who taught you 158 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: the game, right, what youth coach, what high school coach 159 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, really taught you the game? How you're raising 160 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: I think it's such an important aspect. It's very hard 161 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: for these young kids, young people on society today when 162 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: everything's instant gratification. I think the hardest part, you know, 163 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: obviously I thought in love with Division three sports, obviously 164 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: coaching here in the last Division three the last nine years, 165 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: but before that I didn't know much about it aviously 166 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: being at the higher level of FPS programs fcs UM. 167 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a lot to do with how your race, 168 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, what you're looking for in sports. I think 169 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: a lot of the young people right now are interested 170 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: in going d one. Um the preferred walk on deals are? 171 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: You know? Interesting to me? That preferred walk on thing 172 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: is something that I will never probably understand, and who 173 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: invented that? I don't really understand either. I think it's 174 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: like going to a place to buy some clothes and saying, 175 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: you know what, it's not just a hundred bucks, is 176 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 1: actually two hundred dollars for you and it actually doesn't 177 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: fit you? Do you still want it? And people saying yes, 178 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: you know it doesn't make a lot of sense in 179 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: that regard, Like the going somewhere where it doesn't fit 180 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: you, you you have to go to a place where the 181 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: coaches talk to your language, where the coaches are gonna 182 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: lead you, and mentorship because college is about growth and 183 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: self improvement, that's all it is. No one's gonna remember 184 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: if you're played or not in ten years. Don't gonna 185 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: care about that stuff. But what they're gonna care about 186 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: is how are your mentor who challenged you, who believed 187 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: in you, and who loved you. That about the process, 188 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, that's what we have here. 189 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: I think that's what I do in a daily basis. 190 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: I want to be the coach I never had. I 191 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: had a lot of great coaches about the time I 192 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: played and coached, but you know, I think those things 193 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 1: are important, and understanding that the people make the place, 194 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: that the fit has to make sense. You know, don't 195 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: go to a place just because they have a nice 196 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: weight room, right, nice field. You know, go to a 197 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: place because the fit is right. And I think that's 198 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: a parents they to understand throughout the process. Do you 199 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: bring up a great point, a whole D one or bustling. 200 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: I love talking about this and it's interesting because you know, um, 201 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: I was a D three guy and I chose my 202 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: school for a multitude of reasons. Um number one, it 203 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: was a championship caliber program at the DC level and 204 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: and I got to play for legendary coaches and all that. 205 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: But it was perfect for me. I remember looking at 206 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: it my freshman year and I remember going to watch 207 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: the team play as a senior, I was getting recruited 208 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: and there were top three in the country and I'm 209 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: watching it, going, yeah, these guys are good, but I 210 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: think I can compete here like I can play here. 211 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: It felt like I had to push myself, but I 212 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: felt like, all right, worst case scenario. I think if 213 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: I have to come in as a freshman and earn 214 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: my stripes, I'll have three sellon years of being an 215 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: impact player. I really think I can do that. I 216 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: don't know how kids. I had two older brothers that 217 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: played college sports, and I would is lucky to have 218 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: parents that work, you know, rational, you know what I say, rational, 219 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: Like I don't even remember talking about divisions, like I 220 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: really don't. Again, this is but you were, you know, 221 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: one of the top athletes in the state, right you 222 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: were being recruited by how our five schools. Not everyone does. 223 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: So how do kids get that pipe dream out of 224 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: their mind and start getting a little realistic without feeling 225 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: like they're selling themselves short? My personal opinion is to 226 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: try your hardest to be the best high school football 227 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: player you could be and enjoy your time. I mean, 228 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of it comes down to fate, you know, 229 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: to genetics, to whatever it may be. And that's that's 230 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: hard for young people understand. Um. You know, I think 231 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: the hardest part is to realize that they're not going 232 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: to nafel at a young age, because you know, you 233 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: grew up your whole life and your first grade teacher 234 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: says you could be an astronaut, and you know, I 235 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: mean a lot of these kids can't be, you know, 236 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: but I think there's a there's a dream that is 237 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: great to have dreams and have visions and things like that, 238 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: but enjoying the process is something that they need to do. 239 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: You could sell, promote, you could be the best person 240 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: on Instagram, have the most followers, make your own videos, 241 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: things like that. But you know, if it's meant to be, 242 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: it's meant to be. And I do believe that if 243 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: you're the best player in the state, you're the best 244 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: player in your high school team, do you end up 245 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: running the fourth four and go to camps and go 246 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: to clinics and get noticed a little better, There's definitely 247 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: gonna be more opportunity. So I'm not selling anyone short 248 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: dreams or visions or anything like that. But you know, 249 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, playing at the next 250 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: level should be the top priority, not where you're playing. 251 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the next level is the next level regardless, 252 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: and whatever is best for you and for your family, 253 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: and depending on the location and how it could help 254 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: your future and the right price, I think it's the key. 255 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: So it's being realistic, but it's also working hard to 256 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: achieve as high as you can go. A topic that 257 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: comes up, I love talking about it and I have 258 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: always preached. Did I say this to my kids, like, 259 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: don't be concerned when coaches on my back. Coach won't 260 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: stop nagging me. He's saying I'm not doing this or 261 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: not doing that or whatever. I'm like, dude, get concerned 262 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: when coach and saying a word. Yeah, you know, like 263 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: when a coach is correcting or pushing you out of 264 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: your comfort zone in a positive way. I don't mean 265 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: like physically pushing. What I'm saying is, you know, challenging 266 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: you to get better, you know, challenge you to become 267 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: more disciplined, to be more focused. Take it as a compliment. 268 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: When you talk about love for your players as a coach, 269 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: do those things meaning challenging kids trying to get the 270 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: most out of them? Is that love? I agree? I 271 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: look at love is not a noun, but a better brand. 272 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: I said that before. Love is how much you're willing 273 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: to give, right, how much you're willing to trust. And 274 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: I think trust and what you're able to give another person. 275 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: I end almost every conversation with our players that I 276 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: meet with one on one with I love you, man, 277 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: he said, I love you to coach, And it's not 278 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: you know the song I love my wife, it's the 279 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: I trust you. I'm willing to give you everything. I 280 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: got your back, you know. And I think that's such 281 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: an important aspect as a coach. I mean, your number 282 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: one job is to challenge them. Like you said before, 283 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: it's a challenge them, to believe in them, and to 284 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: love them. And I think those three things get all 285 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: contorted when you're so focused on the results, you know, 286 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: and you're focused on championships as I don't coach for trophies. 287 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: It's amazing to get trophies. I don't coach for trophies. 288 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: I to change these kids lives and to challenge them 289 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: and to believe in them, and to be a mentor 290 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: for life for these kids. I was so emotional Friday 291 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: night when I was talking to my players because I said, 292 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: I hope you called me in ten years when you 293 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: get married. I hope you'll call me when you buy 294 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: a house. I hope I'm part of your life forever. 295 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: I'm getting emotional talking about now to be honest, nick Um, 296 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: I want to be part of these kids livest forever. 297 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm indebted to them for sticking with me for five years. 298 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: And that relationship, and I know you know this, that 299 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: relationship you have with your top coach or your favorite coach. 300 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's there's no beating that. That's life long, 301 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: you know. And I think I tell my team all 302 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: the time the gratification of this championship. Who was in 303 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: the doing wasn't in the results, you know. And the 304 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: reason we care so much is because we failed for 305 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: so long, you know, we endured so much and it 306 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: was so it was just like God is good type 307 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: thing of and we're talented team. Obviously talent wins games 308 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. That that stuff takes care of itself. 309 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: But the actual connectiveness we have together, how much love 310 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: trust family. I guess you have to be here to 311 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: embody it. But I hope you saw a little glimpse 312 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: of it from the pictures. That's Dan mulrooney had football 313 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: coach and and Maria College. When we come back, coach 314 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: and I will discuss the importance of resilience and hard 315 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: work and his advice to high schoolers looking to play 316 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: football in college. Welcome back to the Reform Sports Project podcast. 317 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: Where coach mulrooney and I left off. We were about 318 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: to dive into the lessons learned when a player isn't 319 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: given the playing time they feel they deserve, as well 320 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: as coaches advice for how you could be the best 321 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: at what you do both on and off the field 322 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: here at all the time, right, And it's something that 323 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: I talked about a lot, and I think you can't 324 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: talk about it enough because as a parent, I know 325 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: you're a new parent and you and your wife congratulations, 326 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: and you'll be going through this stuff here soon at 327 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: some point. And it is easier to go through failure 328 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: as an individual as me or as you than it 329 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: is to watch your child. I mean it is, but 330 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: I think as a parent, my sports experience and knowing 331 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: I've how to endure certain challenges and go through bumps 332 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: in the road. But having now been on the other side, 333 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: it's easy to go, wow, I needed that or I 334 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: learned from that. But it's so easy, and it's not 335 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: just easy to try to put a pillow so your 336 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: kid doesn't fall down every time to protect them, which 337 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: in many ways we're supposed to do. But also, how 338 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: do we look at sports and say, hey, it's okay 339 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: if you're not starting on this team, we're not jumping ship. 340 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: There's a lesson to be learned here because on one 341 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: end you have all these showcases, clubs and teams going, hey, 342 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: you gotta get in the field, you gotta get seen, 343 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: you gotta get seen. So it's like on one shoulder, 344 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: a parents getting pushed when you gotta get in the field. 345 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: You gotta do this otherwise your kid's gonna get left behind. 346 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: And then you got coach Mulrooney, Nick Bonacorn, every other 347 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: damn coach I've interviewed saying failure is good. Who do 348 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: you trust? Who do you believe? Can you talk about that? Yeah? 349 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: I would. I think it's hard to say super focused 350 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: and have positive energy when no one's clapping for you. 351 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: And that's happened to me. I've never lost ever as 352 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: a coach. And you know, I come here and no 353 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: one clapp for me for three years and to stay positive, 354 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: to stay focused, this trust the process, it's coach Burbs. 355 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: I get that, But at the same time, it's it's resilience. 356 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: I think life's heard this quote, and I love it. 357 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: Life's not about holding all the good cards but playing 358 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: a poor hand. Well, I don't know if you're a 359 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: poker guy, I hear what you're saying. It's listen. I 360 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: didn't have the best talent in high school. I worked 361 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: at it. You know what I mean. I worked at it. 362 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: I didn't start as a freshman in high school. I 363 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: played freshman football. You know, I was one of the 364 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: best players ever playing Connecticut, but I played freshman football, 365 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: maybe a little j V sophomore year that played varsity 366 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: because I worked at it. But I was bummed out 367 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: my freshman year. I have these conversations every day. The 368 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: number one reason why players quit football. In my program. 369 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: You can win a championship this year, it should be 370 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: all goods and glamour, but it's about playing time. Coach. 371 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm happy we won. We won five games in a row. 372 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: But I quit because I'm not playing and it's it's disheartening. 373 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: It's hard to hear. I understand it because I was 374 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: a player that didn't get the most playing time sometimes 375 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: at Boston College or at Stony Brook wherever I was. 376 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: But you know what, the lessons you learned throughout the process. 377 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: It's taught me so much about my life, you know 378 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. And I think it's so hard to 379 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: sit there and watch. And I'm sure as a parent 380 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: it's even harder. Um and and I'll learned that one 381 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: day soon. But the absolute you know, a lot of 382 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: its fate and lot of it's this and that. But 383 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: the playing time aspect is hard. It's very hard for 384 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: a player to sit and wait his time. But listen, 385 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: everyone has to do it, and that's part of sports. 386 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: It's a great point, man, And there's lessons to be 387 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: learned through that coach. You got the mike, you know, 388 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: I want you to take as much time as you need. 389 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of people out there sharing 390 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: their advice to kids, you know, on social media. I 391 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: tell them how to get looks, how to get seen. Here. 392 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: You are someone who played at the highest level of 393 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: college football is now coaching a championship team at the 394 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: D three level. Your career is, you know, obviously skyrocketing. 395 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: You've built something from the ground, you have all the experience. 396 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: What can these kids do to get on Dan Bulrooney's 397 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: radar and Maria College or any program? How can they 398 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: set themselves up? High school athletes to get to the 399 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: next level, to get seen and then to be able 400 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: to have success. It's a loaded question, but I'm gonna 401 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: try to answer it the best I can. Um be 402 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: the best person that you could be and improve on 403 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: daily things. I don't think you have to worry about 404 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: being at your ordinary and anything. I think you have 405 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: to worry about doing the ordinary things being everybody else. 406 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: You know, if you're focused on running a full one, 407 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: you're not going to run a full one. You know, 408 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: you have to work on making many goals every day, 409 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: creating that and having that experience of trying to hit 410 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: those goals throughout and you have to be focused. And 411 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: you know, I think the biggest thing for me, I 412 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: think growing up through it. Obviously it was a different age, 413 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: no Instagram, no Facebook, no recruiting websites, things like that. 414 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: But now that there is that, I see the experience 415 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: of that. If you're blessed enough to go to camps, 416 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: to go to clinics to learn, and it's really to 417 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: experience the best. You have to go against the best 418 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: to experience it. I'll tell one quick store and I'll 419 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: let you go. But I thought I was the best 420 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: football player to ever grace God's Earth. When I was 421 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: in high school and I was just when I was 422 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: a junior in high school, met anyone better than me. 423 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: I went to a camp at Yukon, went to Randy 424 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: Enzo football camp. I met anr Nandez. I went against 425 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 1: him and I couldn't cover him, and I was like, 426 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: what the heck is this? I've never met a person 427 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: I couldn't cover, couldn't run by, And for five hours straight, 428 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: me and him did one on ones by ourselves. All summer, 429 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: we worked out every day together. I got better because 430 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: I found best competition. Find the best competition. Me and 431 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: you were also blessed because we had older brothers. I 432 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: never played with a kid in my age until Hip 433 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: Hop Warner. I think that was a huge piece of 434 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: my my development, was always playing with a person four 435 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: years older than me. Competition is key in life. If 436 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: you have a mentor, if you look for someone to 437 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: look up to train with, to look for that's obviously 438 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: older better than You're gonna experience a different thing. You 439 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: always have to find the best person in the room 440 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: and latch onto him, no matter who it is. Get 441 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: out of your comfort zone to go find the best 442 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: person in your field, whoever it is. Right. When I 443 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: was a coach three years ago, I went to a 444 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: house state. I drove them all the way out there 445 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: to go knock on the door and see if I 446 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: could sit there for a week with Ryan Dayan and 447 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: remind those guys. And I did, and then let me 448 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: sit there for a week. That's freaking awesome, dude. And 449 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: I watched them for a week. I didn't want to leave. 450 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 1: I was so excited to be with them. But I 451 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: found out how the best do it right. And I 452 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: think that's the competitiveness that you need, because competing in 453 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: anything gets you where you want to go. I don't 454 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: care if it's business, I don't care what it is. 455 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: Go find the best, try to lats out into him. 456 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: We'll find the best next person and go learn from them. 457 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: If you can get that done, find the best player 458 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: in your state, start working out with them. You're gonna 459 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: become better. That's my advice. That's Dan mulrooney, had football 460 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: coach at and Maria College. Thanks for listening to the 461 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: Reformed Sports Project podcast. 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