WEBVTT - How Stuntmen (and -women) Work

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jerry had an itchy trigger finger today, you hear

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<v Speaker 2>in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's ready to go home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's like, come on if you want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys aren't my entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we like to think we are, but that

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<v Speaker 2>is we're like zero point one percent of Jerry's life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's giggling in there. She's quite the adventurer.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. How you doing, man?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great, man, I'm ready to jump from a tall

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<v Speaker 2>building or roll a brand new car.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. Sorry, that's what I was gonna ask you. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you did the intro for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, let's pretend like that didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's fine, okay, you were just doing what The

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<v Speaker 1>theme from The Fall Guy starring Lee Majors nineteen eighties

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<v Speaker 1>awesome TV show with probably the best truck ever featured

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<v Speaker 1>in a TV show.

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<v Speaker 2>That gmc man, The thing is sweet Yeah. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>dudes recreate that truck if you if you google it,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of guys that have like made that

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<v Speaker 2>truck for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>For a good reason too. It's a cool truck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's interesting that the fall Guy points out

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of The show itself points out a very

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<v Speaker 2>important things as far as stuntman go. One is that

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<v Speaker 2>he had to moonlight as a bounty hunter, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of one of the things we'll learn is that

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a lot of work out there and to

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<v Speaker 2>go around, you know, like it's tough to make it

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<v Speaker 2>as a stunt man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you get punched.

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<v Speaker 2>And b He's if you look at the lyrics to

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<v Speaker 2>that theme song man, he is really salty about not

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<v Speaker 2>getting the glory and the girls, mainly the girls and

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<v Speaker 2>the glory.

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<v Speaker 1>He he uh. Well when he winds up in the hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's only hey hey hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh So the song complains about not getting glory or when,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is one of the hallmarks though, of the

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<v Speaker 2>stunt person, is to remain anonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be bitter about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess so very few stunt people you've ever heard of, Well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the Academy of Arts and Sciences. They give out

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<v Speaker 1>the Academy Awards.

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<v Speaker 2>Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they don't have a category for stunt people. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>never have And the reason some people give is because

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<v Speaker 1>they like to maintain the anonymity and the illusion. Sure

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<v Speaker 1>that's provided by stunt people filling in as doubles for stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you can win a What Will See Award.

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<v Speaker 1>You can win an Emmy for Best Stunt Coordinator.

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<v Speaker 2>True, or the Stunt Award. They had their own Stunt Awards.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, the Taurus World Stunt Awards.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can win a Tory.

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<v Speaker 1>They took a hiatus. I saw that there was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>ten and then they're having stuff for twenty twelve. Couldn't find

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<v Speaker 1>anything about twenty eleven. Really, Yeah, so if you know

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to the Taurist World Stunt Awards for twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>we are curious. Interesting, let us know.

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, well let's talk about the history of stunt people.

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<v Speaker 1>They pretty much have only been around as long as

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<v Speaker 1>you've had motion pictures, right, Yeah, there wasn't much of

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<v Speaker 1>a need for him before then. I mean maybe for

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<v Speaker 1>like a show or something like that like a wild

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Hickcock show, we call them stunt men, but really

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of want to differentiate because you can also say,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so people who ride horses on standing up

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<v Speaker 1>on a horse's back, that's a stunt person. Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy who like is in the X Games, those

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<v Speaker 1>extreme sports kids, sure that all the kids are into

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<v Speaker 1>these days, that's a stunt. These are by, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>technically stunt people. What we're talking about are movie stunt people, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And the whole point to their craft isn't to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do a five to eighty on a bike

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<v Speaker 1>unless somebody asks them to. What they want to do

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<v Speaker 1>is create what you would just take for granted, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy just got clocked, right, No, he didn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>get clocked. That was a stunt man who knows what

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing, and that was a carefully choreographed scene that

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<v Speaker 1>just flew right past you. But it's still your brain

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<v Speaker 1>still just absorbed it as that man just got punched,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they didn't really happen.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, And we will probably slip into the word

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<v Speaker 2>stuntman here and there instead of stunt people. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>there were tons and tons of stunt women but we'll

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<v Speaker 2>say stunt person's or stunt man, and like, luckily there

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<v Speaker 2>are women now. In the back in the day, they

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<v Speaker 2>would dress men as women to do stunts many times. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of cross dressing back in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>there was until they decided, hey, women are people too,

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<v Speaker 2>and they can act and do stunts just like guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Caan, we could put them in danger just as much

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<v Speaker 1>as well, exactly, so, so there wasn't much call for

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<v Speaker 1>stunt people for movies before movies just by definition. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be ridiculous, but right out of the gate when

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<v Speaker 1>we started making movies, we started needing people to do stunts.

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<v Speaker 1>And the earliest people who were doing stunts were actually comedians,

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<v Speaker 1>slapstick comedians like Buster Keaton had a very famous.

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<v Speaker 2>Early stunt Steamboat Bill Junior. Is that what it was in, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the very famous you've probably seen it in like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood Legends of screen clips and things like that on AMC. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it is the famous shot where the front facade of

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<v Speaker 2>a house falls down and on well would have been

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<v Speaker 2>on Buster Keaton, but he is saved because the attic

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<v Speaker 2>window or attic door was open, so it just falls

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<v Speaker 2>all around him, and there was some careful measuring in place,

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<v Speaker 2>because if he would have been off by a few inches,

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<v Speaker 2>he would have been dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that was a real thing, Like the earliest

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<v Speaker 1>stunts were nothing but the real thing. Like apparently, if

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<v Speaker 1>you had I don't know, somebody hanging from the construction

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<v Speaker 1>the skeleton of a steel skyscraper, yeah, you needed that shot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the guy did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they ed the Grabster wrote this one, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>and Ed points out that back in the day before

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, you know, before they called them stunt men,

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<v Speaker 2>they were just like, let me go find someone crazy

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<v Speaker 2>enough to go do this exactly, and that guy, that

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<v Speaker 2>guy craft Service, looks crazy enough to do it, and

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<v Speaker 2>let's go see if he wants an extra twenty bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he does. Yeah, because beck, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen oh two, twenty bucks was a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So as the film industry grew and grew early in

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<v Speaker 1>the twentieth century, we went from just nothing but slapstick

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<v Speaker 1>comedies to things like westerns and action flicks, and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, those people who really can ride on

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<v Speaker 1>the back of a horse standing up became stunt people

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And as stunts became more and more complex.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea of having somebody whose job and specialty was

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<v Speaker 1>to just do the stunt and make it look like

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<v Speaker 1>the act to the star sure was doing it started

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<v Speaker 1>to really develop.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then flash forward even more the sixties and

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<v Speaker 2>seventies is when things really came to their own as

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<v Speaker 2>far as stunt technology developing. Things like squibs, which we

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<v Speaker 2>will talk about for gunshots and air rams.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what they're called. Yeah, it's like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a hydratic lift. Yeah, it's pneumatic, just shoots you up

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<v Speaker 1>into the air like with a human cannonball.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But like so if somebody, if a grenade blows up

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<v Speaker 1>by somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>And you see the dude fly through the air and

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<v Speaker 2>he was on a ram, that's right. And then other

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<v Speaker 2>things like airbags and and you know, more technology with

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<v Speaker 2>cars with the roll cages, Like it just got more

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<v Speaker 2>and more complex, right, And now of course you have CGI,

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<v Speaker 2>which replaces a lot of stunts in many cases.

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<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily to a better effect. Like all I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say is Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Yeah, where

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<v Speaker 1>it was like they suddenly cut the drawings of Harrison

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<v Speaker 1>Ford swinging on a lasso.

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<v Speaker 2>He's famous for doing his own stunt.

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<v Speaker 1>Snow he didn't do him in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's because he's eighty nine years old. Then he

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<v Speaker 2>would die.

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<v Speaker 1>He was awesome in Bruno.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see that. Was he hairs borders in that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? For about two seconds?

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<v Speaker 2>Did they do like gay jokes to him or something?

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't even get that far?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, did he just shut it down?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Always hilarious. But anyway, so stunts like the I

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<v Speaker 1>guess throughout this progression of the field of stunt people,

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<v Speaker 1>safety has gotten better and better, is what I think

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<v Speaker 1>we were just trying to say. To the point now

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<v Speaker 1>where they're not even used it's c GI. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's always going to be room for stunt people.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and the fact that it's gotten safer is

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<v Speaker 1>much better. But there's still there's an element of risk

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<v Speaker 1>to it no matter what it's Grabs points out. If

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<v Speaker 1>a stunt didn't present some sort of risk, there'd be

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<v Speaker 1>no need for stunt people at all, as actors would

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Yeah, but the actors can't always do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, And when you want to call them a

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<v Speaker 2>stunt person is when they either have a specific skill

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<v Speaker 2>that they're really good at, like fake martial arts or

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<v Speaker 2>I mean real martial arts, but fake hitting and kicking,

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<v Speaker 2>or fake.

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<v Speaker 1>Marshal arts like chew kwong like stuff you just made up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of like just front kits in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you practice, qong sword fighting, stage combat, like

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about stuff like that. They are trained to fall.

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<v Speaker 2>They are trained to you know, safely fall. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I should point out. And it just basically it's a

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<v Speaker 2>safety factor on one hand, and it's a financial factor

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<v Speaker 2>on the other because you can't have your main actor

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<v Speaker 2>actress going down with a broken leg, yeah for four weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>so you put your stunt person in there and keep

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<v Speaker 2>your actor all license safe in their trailer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you want to be shooting two things at once,

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<v Speaker 2>so you have your second unit out there shooting the

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<v Speaker 2>fast cars whizzing by in the car chase. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>have your first unit shooting the actor inside the car

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<v Speaker 2>driving a lot slower and acting like it's really fast.

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<v Speaker 1>But shouting and like moving the steering wheel back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth a lot. Yeah, maybe there's somebody rocking the car.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that called uh, poor man's process. Yeah is yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so when you I guess we should say this. When

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<v Speaker 2>you're in a car, you either have a camera rig

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<v Speaker 2>on your car where it's the real car with cameras

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<v Speaker 2>attached to it. We've done that, or the cars on

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<v Speaker 2>a process trailer, which means a lot of these shots

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<v Speaker 2>you see with someone driving and you're like, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>even paying attention to the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's because the.

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<v Speaker 2>Car is sitting on a trailer being pulled by a.

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<v Speaker 1>Truck, right, Or it's got a little rock to it, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little rock to it, or you do the poor man's

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<v Speaker 2>processes when the car is not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have PA's pushing on the outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Pushing on the outside, little tricks with lighting to make

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<v Speaker 2>it look like headlights going by.

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<v Speaker 1>We've done that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really neat in the end to look get a

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<v Speaker 2>scene that's poor Man's process and think, wow, they're really

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<v Speaker 2>not even moving and it looks so good.

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<v Speaker 1>See if you can pick it out and the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you should know TV series they can probably pick it up.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's financial. It makes sense. Also, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the other reasons people use stunt people is they come

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<v Speaker 1>with a set of skills that the average actor doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a particular set of skills.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly that makes them very dangerous to you. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you can either hire a stuntman who looks like your

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<v Speaker 1>star to carry out like a combat scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Or sort of look like your star, or you can teach.

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<v Speaker 1>Your star, you know, spend all this extra money and

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<v Speaker 1>time to training the star to this skill in a

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<v Speaker 1>crash course. So it just most of the time it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense to just hire a stunt person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know, chances are these days you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get a mix in a big action movie. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get a mix of all three. You're gonna get some CGI,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get some stunt people, and these days you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get real actors doing some of the real fake fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't Tom Cruise do a lot of his own stunts?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I gotta list to the vectors who prefer to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean to jump the gun, No, the Cruise

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<v Speaker 2>is famous for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading this and I was like, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if I would do my own stunts. I would do some.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, sure, I want to learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>sword fight. Teach me that's something I want to know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm certainly not going to shell out for it

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<v Speaker 1>myself ever, so let's go ahead and learn. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good point.

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<v Speaker 2>I would do my own stunts.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends the heights. No way I would do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would jump off. So California state law. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course they shoot movies all over the place now and

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<v Speaker 2>the union rules in Hollywood have really made it pretty

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<v Speaker 2>safe these days. But you're still going to find injuries

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<v Speaker 2>and your occasional death on set, which is really awful. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there always have been pretty much from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>deaths and injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>Howard Hughes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the movie Hell's Angels, which we must have talked

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<v Speaker 1>about in the Hell's Angels podcast. I'm sure we did,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think we talked about the origin of the name,

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<v Speaker 1>which was from there combat. It was, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they think the fighting hell. I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the theories. But there were three, maybe four fatalities, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because they were doing like real dog fights with airplanes

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<v Speaker 1>and there are a lot of crashes. Yeah, so that

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<v Speaker 1>was a movie where people died.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, very famously, The Twilight Zone, the movie Jennifer Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Lee's father Vic Morrow and two little Vietnamese kids died

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<v Speaker 2>when a helicopter crashed into the water where they were

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<v Speaker 2>crossing a river. That's on YouTube, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's pretty awful.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, and I saw it recently because I was

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<v Speaker 2>just curious. I'd always wondered how it went down in

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<v Speaker 2>my head, because I've heard the story since the movie

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<v Speaker 2>came out, since I was a kid, and I always wondered, like,

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what was the logistics and how did that go down.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty bad to watch, it is, because it just

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<v Speaker 1>goes totally out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>It does, so I would not recommend that, but you

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<v Speaker 2>do have to enter your age, by the way to

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<v Speaker 2>watch that video. Yeah, and on set, the AD is

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately responsible the assistant director for everyone's safety. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>on our own little TV show, when we had fake

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<v Speaker 2>guns on set just as props. Yeah, like we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even use them in the scene, but just to have

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<v Speaker 2>a fake gun on set, the AD has to announce

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<v Speaker 2>to the whole crew and show them the gun. Say

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<v Speaker 2>it's fake, it's not real. Look at the barrel. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no bullets, there's no nothing. It will not be fired.

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<v Speaker 2>We will not be shooting blanks or dummy cartridges, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just you know, even on a stupid, little silly

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<v Speaker 2>show like ours, you got to be really careful with

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so chuck. Because of this incredibly high risk profession work,

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<v Speaker 1>the stunt people must be paid out the yin yang true. False.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they make a good rate, but like we said earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a ton of work for the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>stunt people trying to get work. Oh okay, that was

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<v Speaker 2>when I used to work out in la as A Pa.

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<v Speaker 2>I would always try and talk to the stunt people

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<v Speaker 2>when I worked on jobs where they had stunt people,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're just really interesting. Yeah, and to say the least,

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<v Speaker 2>and they would usually bemoan the fact that there's not

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of work, and you know, they're all kind

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<v Speaker 2>of scrapping for the same piece of cheese. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone in the film business, sure, from crew to

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<v Speaker 2>the lead actor. You're you're all after that same piece

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<v Speaker 2>of cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>We've worked with some stunt people too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'd be surprised when you need to call in

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<v Speaker 2>a stunt person. I worked on this one commercial where

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<v Speaker 2>the was just like bad traffic on the highway that

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<v Speaker 2>the shot was and cars had to just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>pull over to the side while another car came through.

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<v Speaker 2>All the cars that pulled over to the side of

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<v Speaker 2>the road had to have stunt drivers. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I could do that, but then I'd be taking bread

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<v Speaker 2>off the table at a stunt person.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and the whole production was shut down.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the most stunt people, you say, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>just so little work for so many people. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a high paying job. A lot of people do it

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<v Speaker 1>for the love of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah. I mean you can make money if you're

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<v Speaker 2>experienced and get tons of work, obviously, but right I'd

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<v Speaker 2>say those are the few and far between.

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<v Speaker 1>But you'd have to love it because the hours are

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<v Speaker 1>usually very, very long. Yeah, to do a stunt is

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<v Speaker 1>not You don't just walk up and get in the

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<v Speaker 1>car and drive it and all of a sudden it

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<v Speaker 1>flips and there's an explosion and you're hoping for the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you see a stunt, these things are rehearsed

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again. Say for a car chase, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>go through the entire car chase, but they'll do it

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<v Speaker 1>at a low speed so that it's choreographed, rehearst and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody knows what's going to happen when that takes a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time. If you need to flip a car,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to do measurements. The pyrotechnics guys are probably involved.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of standing around, there's a lot of practicing,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of measuring, there's a lot of talking.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if say you're doing something like it in water,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably standing in water the whole time. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing that for fourteen hours. Yeah, it sounds like some

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<v Speaker 1>you would have to love your work to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's definitely not a glory job, especially factoring in

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<v Speaker 2>the anonymity factor.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, when you do all this and you do it

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely perfectly, no one notices.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, one of my biggest pet peeves is when

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<v Speaker 2>you do notice and you see that one shot of

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<v Speaker 2>the dude with a wig on, it's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>Clint Eastwood, right, Yeah, just disappointing.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying the second unit director handles this. The

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<v Speaker 1>second unit director is in charge of shooting stunts, but

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<v Speaker 1>the person who's in charge in like of the stunts themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>is the stunt coordinator. Yeah, and that person hires the

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<v Speaker 1>stunt people, plans the stunts, oversees the stunts, execution, does everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but actually sets up the camera and all that, or

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<v Speaker 1>handles the camera shooting it. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's basically it's like a film crew is broken

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<v Speaker 2>up into many departments, and that's just sort of its

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<v Speaker 2>own little department headed by the coordinator. Gotcha, Like they'll

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<v Speaker 2>have a budget to work with and all that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff, just like any other department.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about how they do some stunts.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and actually the second unit director a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times is a former stunt person or stunt coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>It comes in handy. Sure, let's talk about stunts without fire.

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<v Speaker 1>How about punches?

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<v Speaker 2>How about them? Stage fighting man something we have not

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<v Speaker 2>learned yet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much a must if you want to become

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<v Speaker 1>a stunt man. That's less than one is, go take

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<v Speaker 1>stage fighting courses. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Learn how to sell a punch as the giver and

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<v Speaker 2>as the receiver without looking corny and hoki and fake

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<v Speaker 2>like pro wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But it's very much similar to pro wrestling, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever seen somebody throw a punch in pro

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling and you can hear the skin slap. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>because that person was actually just punched. Yeah, the key

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<v Speaker 1>is they weren't punched very hard, certainly not as hard

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<v Speaker 1>as there the jerk of their head would would say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've got camera angles and you've got sound effects,

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<v Speaker 2>and through the art of movie magic, it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>a good knockdown, drag out brawl.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And if you've got it like a really good

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<v Speaker 1>stunt coordinator, there'll be like a punch that's sold and

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<v Speaker 1>the person who's being punched is on a ramp, so

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<v Speaker 1>they fly through the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's awesome, all right. Gunshots. We talked about squibs.

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<v Speaker 2>A squib is basically you're gonna have a chest metal

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<v Speaker 2>chest plate with a squib on the front of it,

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<v Speaker 2>right to protect your body. And it's it's it's basically

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<v Speaker 2>a little blood packet that's rigged electronically to explode when

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<v Speaker 2>it's supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the plate in between the squibbing and chest

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<v Speaker 1>protects you. Sure, and maybe you are in charge of you,

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<v Speaker 1>the stunt man are in charge that you have a

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<v Speaker 1>little button, Yeah, maybe to explode the charge or there's

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else doing it remotely and it's pretty awesome. Releases

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<v Speaker 1>theater blood opens a hole in the shirt. Yeah, pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It is very awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>This I didn't realize though, how they make bullet holes

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<v Speaker 1>in like like a wall, like stuck a wall. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was pretty ingenious. They drill the hole

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of time and then they cover it up with

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<v Speaker 1>like putty or paper or something and paint with a

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<v Speaker 1>squib in there. Yeah, and they blow that squib out

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes a bullet hole.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ingenious. It's simple, it seems like, but it's very ingenious.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, especially when you watch a movie. Ideally you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>lost in the movie, not paying attention, but if you

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<v Speaker 2>watch like a John woufilm or something, yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 2>see just like a wall get riddled with bullets. Just

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<v Speaker 2>think about all the time, Yeah, it took to set

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<v Speaker 2>up all those squibs.

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<v Speaker 1>And like what if the actor trips in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of it, You're just like, we have.

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<v Speaker 2>To do it again, Yeah, which is no good. And

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, big stunts they go with many mini cameras

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<v Speaker 2>on stunts that you don't or can't recreate because of

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<v Speaker 2>either danger or money. Yeah, And like some of the

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<v Speaker 2>shots have, like, you know, a dozen more camera shooting

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<v Speaker 2>right time.

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<v Speaker 1>Which makes a lot of sense, of course, and Grabster

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<v Speaker 1>points out that another reason why you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do a big take like that more than once is

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<v Speaker 1>because every time you do, the danger for the stunt

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<v Speaker 1>person multiplies. Yeah, and I was like how, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh, well doing it more right, and your

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<v Speaker 1>your chances of injury or increased the more you carry

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<v Speaker 1>out the more times you carry out a dangerous act.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's how it multiplies.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting back to squibs, these days, a lot of directors

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<v Speaker 2>are opting for CGI blood and uh and bullet wounds.

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<v Speaker 2>But supposedly Quentin Tarantino and this is out. By the

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<v Speaker 2>time this comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>Jango and Change, I can't wait to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposedly he had one real squibs and the blood like

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<v Speaker 2>they're supposed to be the bloodiest, nastiest squibs that hollywould

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<v Speaker 2>have seen in years.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's supposed to be pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh. Yeah, have you seen a machete? Yeah that was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty bloody. Yeah that was though I agree it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was still pretty blank.

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<v Speaker 2>They also blanks if you were firing a gun on set.

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<v Speaker 2>It is probably a blank, you would hope. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the same as a dummy cartridge. No, a blank

0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:17.679
<v Speaker 2>actually fires gunpowder, has gunpowder and fires what's called a wad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like paper or wood or plastic. But it does

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<v Speaker 2>not obviously have shot or a bullet.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but there's sometimes when the bullet explodes, bits of

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<v Speaker 1>metal can end up being shot out as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how Brandon Lee died when they were filming The Crow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. His was actually an accident. There was a bullet

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<v Speaker 2>lodged in the barrel that they didn't know about.

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<v Speaker 1>What I thought, Okay, well then I'm thinking of somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else who like was messing around with a gun.

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<v Speaker 2>That was man, I can't remember anything, put it to

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<v Speaker 2>his head.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pulled the trigger and like the water, like the

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<v Speaker 1>gases or something killed them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was I can't remember his name, but it

0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 2>was on a TV show set and he like goofing

0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.119
<v Speaker 2>around put it to his head as a joke. So

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<v Speaker 2>you should never mess around with blanks. No, very dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>Still No, but there was a bullet in the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a bullet. They got the guns mixed up

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 2>and there was a real bullet slug lodged in the

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:10.159
<v Speaker 2>barrel that they didn't know about, so it fired a blank,

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<v Speaker 2>but it ejected that other thing and Brandon Lee died.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, it was one of the biggest oops is

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<v Speaker 2>probably in Hollywood history.

0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I guess you could call it that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he they thought he was still acting

0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 2>and continued to roll cameras for a bit afterwards. Oh gee,

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<v Speaker 2>even Yeah, very sad tragic. Are we to falling?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which he'll do I won't do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll jump off of stuff. I've always done that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they use these huge, huge air bags right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, back in the day they did, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>and if you're doing a fall today, they still will sometimes,

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:49.640
<v Speaker 2>but generally these days they have like a bungee type contraption.

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I would still demand an air bag. Yeah, they apparently

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<v Speaker 1>also for shorter falls, they'll take some cardboard boxes and

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:00.679
<v Speaker 1>they'll cut the sharp corners off. Yeah, and then you

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:02.919
<v Speaker 1>jump onto that. Did you do that when you were

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<v Speaker 1>a kid.

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I always would jump into water.

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I would jump like onto the ground off of like

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 1>the credenza or whatever. And now I'm like, I wouldn't

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:13.639
<v Speaker 1>even do that. It's dangerous.

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Falls used to be the thing, Like I'm sure you

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 2>remember as a kid, falls were a really big deal

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<v Speaker 2>for stuntmen and Dar Robinson, remember that guy. No, he

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<v Speaker 2>did the Sharki's Machine fall. Okay in Atlanta and the

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:29.119
<v Speaker 2>Burt Reynolds movie. Nope, it's very famous fall out of

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 2>the Peachtree Plaza hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>I was up in Toledo at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was still it was released in Toledo in Toledo

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<v Speaker 2>Sharky's Machine one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, uh off the off the Waist Hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>He went through a window of the Peachtree Plaza and

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<v Speaker 2>uh into onto an air bag. And it's just it

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the famous early falls, and or not

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 2>early falls, but one of the famous falls.

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<v Speaker 1>What Florida did he jump out of?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it pretty high?

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean it was over over like one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty feet in Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>But see, so imagine planning that stunt. How many times

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 1>they measured everything to figure out where the air bags

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>needed to go, and then they probably supplemented it with

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>additional airbags and if they loved the guy at all

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:11.400
<v Speaker 1>they did all this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, stuntman. When you go to talk to one, if

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.199
<v Speaker 2>you're on set, you'll be disappointed by the fact that

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 2>they aren't these crazy dudes like you want them to be.

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:22.199
<v Speaker 2>They're actually really sensible because they want to work and

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 2>earn money, so they want to be really, really sure

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 2>that no one gets hurt. It's a little more boring

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>than you would think talking to them, sure, but they

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 2>are a little nuts.

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you'd have to be at least a little

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<v Speaker 1>What else, chuck fire? How about fire?

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I just saw Anchorman the other night, Remember when they

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<v Speaker 2>had the street brawl that got on fire just walks by.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a pretty serious stunt, Like when you are

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 1>when you set yourself on fire. Yeah, and there's a

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of safety precautions, but even still, it's you're on fire,

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>whether you like it or not.

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You're wearing all kinds of fire protective clothing and

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 2>fire retardant and then you're smeared with the flammable gel.

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Yep. You have a hood on that protects you yeah

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 1>as well, and there's an oxygen tank in there, so

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you're basically just completely wrapped in this outfit. Yeah, but yeah,

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the flammable gels on and they liked you and then

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 1>film you and you're going, oh, it's always the wavy.

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 2>This kind of looks the same.

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 1>And then the people run over and put you out

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 1>with fire extinguisher.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>But they time it very closely as well. Oh, I'm sure,

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:31.679
<v Speaker 1>because I think it's kind of like, well, if we

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>go twelve seconds, he actually will catch on fire, so

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 1>we can shoot for eleven.

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Eleven point five. Right. Explosions are a big deal obviously

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 2>these days. There's so many explosions in movies. Sometimes they

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:47.400
<v Speaker 2>cheat a little bit what's called a technique called force

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:49.959
<v Speaker 2>perspective to make it look like the actor is closer

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 2>to the explosion. And if there's an explosion, you're probably

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 2>also going to be propelled with the air ram that

0:26:56.520 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about. It's almost called a Hollywood trope at

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 2>this point. The explosion in the dudes flying like twenty

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:03.880
<v Speaker 2>feet in the hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was big in a commando.

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, there are a lot of air rams used

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 1>in Commanda.

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<v Speaker 2>Many more than I can count.

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>That was such a good movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Car chases and crashes.

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they use rams as well. They may be attached

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>to the car. So if a car needs to flip,

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 1>you see people like going up on a ramp or whatever. Yeah,

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'd probably use that if you're just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>stay on two wheels. But if you're trying to flip,

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>there's usually a ram that pushes the car, pushes it

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 1>off the ground and it flips, or if you haven't

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>coming out of the rear, it'll make it jump really high.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh true. Like in Hooper, I don't know.

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 1>All these movies you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh dude. Hooper was the stuntman movie with Burt Reynolds.

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see it.

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, how neat am very famous stuntman turned director.

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<v Speaker 1>Directed, founder of The Cannonball Run.

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, and director of the movie The Cannonball Run

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 2>and Smoking the Bandit and Hooper. Hooper was about an

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 2>aging stuntman Burt Reynolds, who was challenged by the up

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 2>and comer Jan Michael Vincent. And of course there's the

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 2>love relationship with Sally Field choosing that too. And it

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 2>was good. It was like the best. It's sort of

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 2>the best stunt movie ever because it was about stunts, huh.

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 2>And he had a rocket car and that one that

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 2>was a big rocket car jump. It was the big climax.

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>I did not see Hooper?

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Did you need to see Hooper?

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>What was I watching back then?

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 2>What were you? You're probably watching TV and stuff, I guess, Yeah, Hey,

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:35.199
<v Speaker 2>it was a little before your time. And like I

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 2>said earlier, stunt drivers, it's not all like a lot

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 2>of this stuff you're gonna see on TV's stunt driving,

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 2>even though you might not think it's necessary.

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, apparently it does just pull off of a.

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Sometime sometimes not. How do you become a stuntman Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, Well, apparently, as far as Grabanowski says, you basically

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>have to start off as an extra on the set.

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 2>That's not necessarily true.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, if you want, and if you want to go

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>from the absolutely from zero to stuntman in the slowest

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>way possible, then you would start out as an extra

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>on the set. You have to be a screen act

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>you have to be a member of the Screen Actors

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Guild in most cases. Yeah, and when you're hanging around

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the set, you identify who the second unit director or

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>stunt coordinator is and you hand them your headshot.

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 2>This ad painted a path to becoming a stunt person

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 2>that we've kind of laughed at. It is not the

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 2>only path, but one thing is for sure. To become

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 2>a stunt person, you need to get to know someone

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 2>else in that department. And that's really with every film department.

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 2>If you want to be in a wardrobe, you should

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 2>get a job as a BA and start hanging out

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>with the wardrobe people. If you want to be in makeup,

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 2>start hanging out with the makeup people. And that's just

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 2>how it works in Hollywood. There's no degree. You can

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 2>get a film degree, but come on, let's wasted money.

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Just go to work on the set. You get to

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 2>know the people in the department and then start bugging

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 2>them a little bit when they're not busy. Stunt coordinators

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 2>are a little testy. There's a lot on the line,

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 2>you know. Sure, so you know, if you're a new

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 2>pa on set, don't run over to the stunt coordinator

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 2>start bugging them right away. Pick and choose your time

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.239
<v Speaker 2>and then give them your headshot and then give him

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>your headshot.

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, what you're saying is that it's apprentice based.

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 2>It is.

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Basically there are schools.

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>One recommended driving school, the Rick Seaman Stunt Driving School.

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 2>There's also the International Stunt School that sounds pretty serious,

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 2>and this is where you can learn to do some

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff. But it's not like you exit with

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 2>a degree and then show up and say, now i'd

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 2>like to do stunt work.

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Right, all the rest of you are fired. I have

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>a degree from the International Stunt School.

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 2>And Grabster points out that you should have a large

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>area of specialty rather than one thing.

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought that's a very good point.

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's not necessarily true. I've talked to some

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 2>stunt dudes that say, eventually you would like to have

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 2>a wide range of skills, but a good way to

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 2>get in is to have one really specific skill that

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.959
<v Speaker 2>you're great at. And you might get back call like

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 2>this guy's good with wirework or water work and or

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>he's a hell of a driver, or a really good

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 2>motorcycle guy, yeah, or a great skier if you're doing

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>like what was that for your eyes only?

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Is that the one that heard ski Chase?

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Never say never again?

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 2>I know it's definitely Roger Moore.

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think it's for your eyes only, all right.

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 2>But it helps to have these skills, Like a lot

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 2>of stunt people are former motorcycle motocross racers or car

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>enthusiasts or you know, how to stand stand forest back riding. Yeah,

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 2>so a lot of them had these skills just anyway,

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, hey, I can I've been driving dirt

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 2>track for twenty years as we'll make some money.

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, film me.

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 2>There's books out there, are they? So you want to

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>be a Stuntman? By Mark Aspitt.

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's a great name for a book like that.

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 2>The Full Burn by Kevin Conley, Fight Choreography, The Art

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:59.479
<v Speaker 2>of Nonverbal Dialogue by John Kring, and then Hall Needham's

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 2>biography stunt Man with a.

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Exclamation had to be had to be you got? You

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:10.479
<v Speaker 1>said you have a list of actors that do their

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>own stunts.

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think most people know this, people like Jason Statham,

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<v Speaker 2>famous for doing his own stunts.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh. I see Zoe Bells on there. I thought she

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<v Speaker 1>was a stunt person.

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<v Speaker 2>Well she is, and she was in Death Proof though

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<v Speaker 2>as an actor, right, And they were like, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>they include her now because she did that awesome hanging

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<v Speaker 2>onto the hood scene.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching that earlier and it is just not

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty cool. It's like she's when she's hanging on

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like by belts or whatever. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>she's she's kind of sliding still across the hood.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>All it would take is like half an inch, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden she's gone too far and

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<v Speaker 1>she's off the side of the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was it. She's one of the best in

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<v Speaker 2>the business apparently.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that's scary.

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<v Speaker 2>Burt Reynolds used to do a lot of his stunts.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, he got injured pretty bad. That led to

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<v Speaker 2>some bad health problems on set. Oh yeah, though not

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<v Speaker 2>City Heat. The Clint Eastwood movie Burt Lancaster.

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<v Speaker 1>He used to do his own stunts. He's a tough guy, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the movie Tough Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, in that Yeah. Yeah, I don't think we mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>been hurt either. That's one of the famous stunts ever,

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<v Speaker 2>The Chariot Race.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you want to tell him about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, what do you got.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, there's a stuntman named Joe Cannutt and he

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<v Speaker 1>was doubling for Charlton Heston and during the Chariot Race,

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<v Speaker 1>this big, long, intense race. Yeah, he falls off the

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>chariot and is about to be run over. But in

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<v Speaker 1>true stuntman fashion, grabs it. It's being dragged. Yeah, pulls

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<v Speaker 1>himself back up and continues on.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that made it on screen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's in the movie. But that was a real thing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it wasn't a planned stunt, Like the guy saved

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<v Speaker 1>his own life.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome, Dad, Harrison Ford, you mentioned as far as

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<v Speaker 2>the ladies go, Angelina and Jolee and Cameron Diaz are

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<v Speaker 2>the right known for doing stunts. Arnie arts in Niaga

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<v Speaker 2>and Jackie Chan very famous for doing his own stunts.

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<v Speaker 2>And it makes a difference, man, when you can tell

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<v Speaker 2>it's Tom Cruise on the side of that mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that was scary. Is that really him?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Emily worked on that shoot on there, just that

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.879
<v Speaker 2>segment in Moab, the rock climbing segment, and that's when

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.280
<v Speaker 2>famously Tom Cruise was like four hours late and flies

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<v Speaker 2>in on a helicopter and like the whole crew was

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<v Speaker 2>waiting around all day for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't heard that, and then yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean famous in my family. Yeah, and now I

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<v Speaker 2>guess famous to the podcast community.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea Cruise is not punctual.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he wasn't that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow stunts.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen Haywire the Soderberg movie. Uh uh, it's

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 2>about uh assassin. Assassin's basically it's an action movie, Soderberg's

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 2>take on an action movie. But Gina Karana was a

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 2>former mixed martial artist and she she's awesome and does

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<v Speaker 2>her own stunts. What's her name, Gina Carano.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe I know her.

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<v Speaker 2>She plays the lead. I'm she I think that was

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 2>her first like legit movie. Oh gotcha known for mixed

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 2>martial arts. But yeah, she does her own stunts.

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<v Speaker 1>She's b a hey wy hey, I'll check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I got nothing else.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't either.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty straightforward.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to learn more about stunts, you can

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<v Speaker 1>type stunts into the house stuff works search bar. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said search bar, which means it's time for listener.

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<v Speaker 2>May Josh, I'm gonna call this things we I guess

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 2>say a lot. Oh no yeah, like no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone says like, though I know.

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>But I've people have pointed out here they're like, you

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>guys say like a lot. And I've started to notice

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>And when I say it when I hear the podcast,

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't hear when I'm saying it. Only later on

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<v Speaker 1>when I can't do anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't don't beat yourself up. Everybody says that, like there

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<v Speaker 2>are articles written in the New Yorker about the use

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>of the word like in the twenty first century. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're part of that crowd. No, you're not millennial.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm an aged person.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, he's wrong with me today, Guys, Before I start,

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:14.360
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I should get out my adoration of

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 2>the podcast. Always listen as I'm walking my dog, Chloe

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 2>keeps me entertained for hours. I love that you guys

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 2>are still going strong, and I'm very thankful. I have

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 2>comprised a list, however, of words and phrases used most

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 2>often in the show, besides obvious ones like Chuck or

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Josh or search bark. Let's hear them in no particular order.

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:35.360
<v Speaker 2>A boy to being a bout a boom.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure he left off the bon Jovi.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, she we'll talk about this later, or we'll get to.

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:44.280
<v Speaker 1>That, and then a lot of times we don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I feel like I say that a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's hilarious when we say that we're going

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to talk about something later and then we forget.

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<v Speaker 2>To yeah, or I say all the time. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we should point out and she didn't put them in here,

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 2>but I'll go ahead and throw my own on there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm making air quotes. Yeah, I E E G. Yeah,

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 2>that's one of yours. That's a good band name, and

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 2>that's usually me. Sure, that's not just a sweat. You

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 2>just don't go out sweat a lot because of me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a stand up guy. I don't remember her saying

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 2>that a lot. Do you say that a lot? All right,

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take at you with that one, Katherine on

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 2>the up and up.

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that's c a of course we say

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot, definitely.

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 2>People always ask it what it means.

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<v Speaker 1>We never tell.

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<v Speaker 2>They never tell. And then have you seen the movie? Ironically?

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<v Speaker 1>That's about right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And those are ten things that we say a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is she says she thinks these are great

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:45.280
<v Speaker 2>comforts her and she smiles, and that is Catherine Phillips.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks a lot, Katherine. That's pretty cool. Somebody's out there

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.399
<v Speaker 1>like writing lists of things we say.

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 2>It's nicer to hear people say like I take comfort that.

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<v Speaker 2>And except for the emails when we get.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you guys always say this and it's John Travolta

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<v Speaker 1>taking against the task. If you want to take the task,

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 1>whether John Travolta or anybody else, or you just want

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>to say, hey, here's a list of things I noticed

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>because the podcast or whatever. You can join us on Twitter. Actually, first,

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<v Speaker 1>before we sign off, let's remind everybody that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, TV show Stuff you Don't You Should Know TV

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<v Speaker 2>Or get it on iTunes the following day. Yeah, on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Chuck, Just go to iTunes and type of

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