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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. You know what it would

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Speaker 1: a big clue when QC que Chadwick leaves her children

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Speaker 1: and tell you she's dead. And for four long years,

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Speaker 1: four years, the prime suspect has been nowhere to be found,

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Speaker 1: although his image was everywhere. It's amazing how a lot

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Speaker 1: of money can buy your whole new life, Imancy Grace,

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Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: I don't like crimes on women, on mothers. How awful

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Speaker 1: Take a listen, our friends at Inside Edition busted. A

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Speaker 1: fugitive multi millionaire accused of killing his wife nabbed after

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Speaker 1: nearly five years on the run. You can run, but

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Speaker 1: you can't hide. Peter Chadwick made a fortune in real

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Speaker 1: their two million dollar home in Newport Beach, California. The

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Speaker 1: next day, Chadwick called nine one from a gas station

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Speaker 1: near the Mexican border with a hard to believe kidnapping tale.

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Speaker 1: Detectives were suspicious from the start. One big reason Chadwick

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Speaker 1: The fifty four year old tycoon was returned to the

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Speaker 1: US from Mexico after authorities received a crucial tiff. Cops

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Speaker 1: accommodations in motels. In hostels, Peter also worked at number

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Speaker 1: of aliases. After four years outsmarting the cops, multi millionaire

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Speaker 1: how the world did we end up on this wild

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Speaker 1: goose chase? Okay? So where is they chuck her? They

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Speaker 1: with a nine one one call, Wendy Patrick. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: California prosecutor author of red Flags on Amazon, Wendy Patrick

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Speaker 1: Dave Mac. Let me just start with the facts. What

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Speaker 1: the phone with nine one one is Peter Chadwick. He

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Speaker 1: Doctor Chris Berry. When I see scratches on arms and

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Speaker 1: definitely all felt that he was completely comfortable with that.

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Speaker 1: She was definitely less independent than many of her friends.

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Speaker 1: You're hearing our friend Tracy Smith over at CBS. That

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Speaker 1: was the family dynamic, Dave Mack. So many times we

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Speaker 1: think we know what a married couple is like, what

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Speaker 1: their family life is like, because of the image that

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Speaker 1: they project to others. The image that this family had

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Speaker 1: was that they weren't showoffs, but they had money. You know.

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Speaker 1: Chadwick worked at home, managing and working with his company's

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Speaker 1: real estate company. She was a stay at home mom.

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Speaker 1: They had three boys. One the oldest, I think was

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Speaker 1: fourteen at the time this happened. He was away at

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Speaker 1: boarding school, while the two younger boys were twelve and nine.

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Speaker 1: And they attended a fairly exclusive private school in Orange County.

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Speaker 1: Beyond that, inside the home, it was meticulous, very organized.

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Speaker 1: She ran an incredible home. And you could if you

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Speaker 1: look at the pictures of the boys, all of they're

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Speaker 1: always smiling. These boys were they knew their mom loved them.

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Speaker 1: And I think about that when I realized what this

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Speaker 1: Chadwick did to his family. He took this mother, this

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Speaker 1: loving mom who did everything she could for her boys,

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Speaker 1: and he stole her from them. But beyond that, the

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Speaker 1: guy never once asked about the boys. He never checked

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Speaker 1: on you know, think about it, they through all of this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's asked about them yet. And he's

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Speaker 1: left them without the mother that they loved, and he

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Speaker 1: left them destitute. This guy, I'm so thankful he's caught.

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Speaker 1: I'm just ready for the trial. I'm ready for him

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Speaker 1: to you put under the jail. This is the guy

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Speaker 1: who doesn't deserve to share the same oxygen that we

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Speaker 1: breathe crime stories with. Nancy Grace, Queen Chadwick. She's dead

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Speaker 1: and for four long years, four years, the Pride suspect

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Speaker 1: has been nowhere to be found. I'm Nancy Grays. This

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00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: is crime stories, Thank you for being with us. How

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Speaker 1: awful to steal a mother away from her children? In

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Speaker 1: the last hours, A major, major break in the case

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Speaker 1: of the murder of QC. Que Chadwick. Take a listen

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Speaker 1: our friends at Inside Edition, A fugitive multi millionaire accused

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Speaker 1: of killing his wife nabbed after nearly five years on

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Speaker 1: the run. What happened to the accused wife killer? An

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Speaker 1: international manhunt was launched. Chadwick was added to the US

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Speaker 1: Marshall's Most Wanted list. The fifty four year old tycoon

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Speaker 1: was returned to the US from Mexico after authorities received

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Speaker 1: a crucial tip. Cops do it all. They check cell

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Speaker 1: phone records, they check everything regarding social media, computers, cameras

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Speaker 1: in the neighborhood, everything, and they still can't find QC

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Speaker 1: or her body. What she just disappears off the face

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Speaker 1: of the earth until a tip. We started finding two

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Speaker 1: s's items. We found nice bags, we found a really

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Speaker 1: nice purse, so we set those aside. When we opened

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Speaker 1: up the bag, that's when we found QC's ID, her

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Speaker 1: permanent residency card, ten dozen dollars cash, and all of

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Speaker 1: this stuff is the stuff that he described Juan taking

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Speaker 1: with QC's body into Mexico and wrapped in that green

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Speaker 1: blanket QC's body. It was a huge break for us.

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Speaker 1: The dumpster was scheduled to be picked up a Thursday morning,

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Speaker 1: which was the next morning after we believe Peter disposed

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Speaker 1: of QC's body. The issue with that was there was

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Speaker 1: some kind of billing disputes, so they were supposed to

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Speaker 1: pick up the dumpster, but they didn't. Once detectives finally

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Speaker 1: found QC, the medical examiner was able to determine how

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Speaker 1: she died. There was a pretty violent struggle which resulted

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Speaker 1: in strangulation and possible drowning. Wow, so how could they

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Speaker 1: determine from that? To doctor Chris Sperry, chief Medical Examiner,

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Speaker 1: that there have been a possible drowning. I think that's

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Speaker 1: based on the scene evidence back at the house where

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Speaker 1: there's a deep bath hot tub and with a broken

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Speaker 1: vase and some blood and the evidence of a struggle

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Speaker 1: around that area. Drowning with a diagnosis of exclusion, it's

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Speaker 1: very difficult from a pathology for you to actually establish

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Speaker 1: that someone has truly drowned. But strangulation injuries should be

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Speaker 1: very straightforward and fairly fairly easy to detect with a

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Speaker 1: good autopsy. So I think the medical examiner was basically

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Speaker 1: covering all bases, knowing that there was a struggle in

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Speaker 1: and around a tub at the home with broken broken

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Speaker 1: vase and other evidence. So that was added on, as

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Speaker 1: I would say, I'm back up in a sense to

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Speaker 1: indicate the drowning may have occurred, and if so, that

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Speaker 1: would place probably QC back at the house. So let

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Speaker 1: me understand, Dave Matt, syndicated talk show host. Her body

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Speaker 1: is found wrapped inside of a green blanket. Do we

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Speaker 1: know where the blanket came from and where exactly what's

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Speaker 1: her body found? The blanket apparently came from inside the

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00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: home Nancy, and her body was actually found in that

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Speaker 1: dumpster as was described a while ago, that was supposed

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Speaker 1: to have already been taken to the dump but due

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Speaker 1: to a filling dispute, it was actually still there with

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Speaker 1: the body and tact. If you think the nine one

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Speaker 1: one call was bizarre, listen to this. Peter Chadwick's explanation

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00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: of QC's death has always been problematic. The story changes

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Speaker 1: often and the details are bizarre. For example, when asked

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Speaker 1: to described the knife that Juan used to threaten him.

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Speaker 1: During their sixteen hour long ordeal, Peter describes a small

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Speaker 1: Swiss Army utility knife with a blade two inches long,

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Speaker 1: and he points out that the knife blade was very dull.

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Speaker 1: His demeanor is also peculiar, as recorded in a detective's report,

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Speaker 1: I noticed that Peter appeared unemotional and almost sleepy throughout

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Speaker 1: her contact. He spoke very quietly and with a British accent.

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Speaker 1: Peter was very slow to answer my questions and would

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Speaker 1: take frequent long pausits. During his answers, he frequently put

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Speaker 1: his hands over his face, as if he was going

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00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: to cry, but when he removed his hands, he did

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00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: not appear emotional. His eyes were not red and or watery.

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Speaker 1: In one version of the one story, the killer sits

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Speaker 1: on Peter's chest for a solid five minutes so that

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Speaker 1: he can't attempt CPR on his dying wife. In another

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Speaker 1: one forces Peter to disrobe, but after quc is dead,

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Speaker 1: Peter then tries to charge at one but one grabs

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Speaker 1: his testicles and squeezes them to subdue him. Okay, though,

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Speaker 1: that's where our friends that count down to capture Karen

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Speaker 1: start with a guy's story. How does it always boil

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Speaker 1: down to his testicles. Something to do with his testicles,

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Speaker 1: his penis is sex life. Here we go. First of all,

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Speaker 1: the guy sits on him, okay, while his wife is dying.

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Speaker 1: He subdued because one sits on him. Then he grabs

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Speaker 1: his testicles. You know it never ends with this guy, Karen,

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00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: start was this telling you? And also, Karen, while I've

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Speaker 1: got you, what about the fact that he appears like

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Speaker 1: he's about to fall asleep while coots are trying to

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Speaker 1: talk to him about his wife's murderer. Well there's that

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Speaker 1: lack of emotion again, Nancy, where you know he could

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Speaker 1: care less. So he's trying to act as though this

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Speaker 1: is important to him, that it's killed him, that he's

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00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: putting his hands over his face, but meanwhile he's falling asleep.

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Speaker 1: He's boring himself. And his story is unusual for a psychopath.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I'm saying that is that they're usually

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Speaker 1: very planned and exact, and they know exactly what they're

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Speaker 1: going to say, even if you and I don't think

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00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: it'll make sense, they've worked it out. This guy hasn't

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Speaker 1: worked it out at all, So his story becomes very

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Speaker 1: involved and all of a sudden, his manhood comes to

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Speaker 1: question and they're restraining him and what's the worst ways

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Speaker 1: We're having testicles right to a man joining me right now.

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Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter Dave Dave Matt, what

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Speaker 1: more can you tell me? A couple of things that

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Speaker 1: we've found out during the investigation in this is while

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Speaker 1: Chadwick was on the lamb for four years, the Newport

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00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: Beach Police Department never gave up on it. They kept

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Speaker 1: this front and center. They actually were very aggressive digitally

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00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: in trying to keep the guy's picture out there, his story.

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Speaker 1: They wanted people to know this guy was on the

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Speaker 1: LAMB and was trying to avoid justice. Once he did

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Speaker 1: get to a place where he could stay under the radar,

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Speaker 1: he moved around a lot. He probably had to change

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Speaker 1: his name a lot. He had to constantly be working

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Speaker 1: on a new backstory and new fake IDs, and was

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Speaker 1: able to accomplish that for a number of years. But

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Speaker 1: eventually it led to the tips that came in by

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Speaker 1: the Newport Beach Police Department keeping it front and center

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Speaker 1: digitally by aggressively going after him with using a podcast

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Speaker 1: and things like that. There that's how they got the

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Speaker 1: tip to where he was in Mexico. It was just

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Speaker 1: good old fashioned police work seeking out information from the

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Speaker 1: public and the public responding and they were able to

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Speaker 1: follow up on it and boom, they got him. Nancy

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Speaker 1: Grace Crime Stories, signing off goodbye friend,