WEBVTT - Make It Make Sense, Respectfully

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of This League, we talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Booker snub, which was inevitable. The Devin Booker All

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<v Speaker 1>Star snub happens. This is the seventh time now why

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<v Speaker 1>the Wizards are no longer the joke of the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>We also break down the resurrection of the Miami Heat

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<v Speaker 1>and why the rest of the e should be worried,

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<v Speaker 1>and we also work on answering a new batch of

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<v Speaker 1>listener dms. All right, Marty, a bonus segment, if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to talk about brandon Ingram. What the hell

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<v Speaker 1>is up with this kid? Brandon Ingram. Let me start

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<v Speaker 1>by saying, brandon Ingram drafted duke player, drafted by the

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<v Speaker 1>LA Lakers, very high.

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<v Speaker 2>Where was he drafted, Marty?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you second?

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<v Speaker 2>He was drafted second overall?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, behind your boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Behind your boy, So okay, brandon Ingram gets drafted to

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers, and then all of a sudden we get

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron James.

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<v Speaker 2>Playing on this team with brandon Ingram.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time that I ran into brandon Ingram was

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<v Speaker 1>right out after he was drafted.

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<v Speaker 2>He was doing he was doing a spot.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, these new NBA players, they have these sponsorship

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<v Speaker 1>deals with brands that they really don't care anything about.

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<v Speaker 2>So the brand reaches out to us.

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<v Speaker 1>This is when I was working at USA Today and

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<v Speaker 1>they say, Hey, would you like to do a one

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<v Speaker 1>on one exclusive interview.

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<v Speaker 2>With brand new lottery draft pick brandon Ingram.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, hell, yeah, absolutely. This kid is nice,

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<v Speaker 1>this kid's long, he's lean, he's the possibly. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's calling him maybe the second coming of Kevin Durant,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a generous comparison, we'll say quick.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, okay, yeah, I'll go interview brandon Ingram.

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<v Speaker 1>So I pull up there and it's very clear that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people excited about brandon Ingram being there,

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<v Speaker 1>but none of them, none of them's name.

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<v Speaker 2>Was brandon Ingram.

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<v Speaker 1>He was basically comatose in the middle of this interview.

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<v Speaker 1>He was his eye were almost closed. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>find the clip. I don't even think actually we published

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<v Speaker 1>it because it was so bad. I think I had

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<v Speaker 1>to tell the it was a knee brace sponsor. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to tell them like, none of this was usable.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had a.

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<v Speaker 2>Non usable interview in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So then we're trying to get some b roll for

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<v Speaker 2>the interview. I mean, this is just like a complete.

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<v Speaker 1>Non secutor, right, we're not planning on talking about this,

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<v Speaker 1>but so we're doing the b roll, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting video to put on top of the interview, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you're not just seeing the two people talking

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time. And so we're like, hey, Brandon, it's

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<v Speaker 1>me and my producer. Shout out to Sandy, who got

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<v Speaker 1>me fired and hired at Barstows.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Sandy.

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<v Speaker 1>So me and Sandy are around and I'm like, hey, Brandon,

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<v Speaker 1>can you give us some dunks and like some layups

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<v Speaker 1>around the rim?

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<v Speaker 2>And he goes, nah, I'm a gunna. I'm a gunna.

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<v Speaker 2>What you mean, I'm a gunna?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's got his brother there, and his brother's like,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look at all like Brandon Ingram. He looks like

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's not. I mean, Brandon Ingram is like slim reaper.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of style.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's two hundred and sixty pounds and probably five

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<v Speaker 1>ft seven.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where Mike Westbrook really yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, there's nothing more polarizing than the brothers

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<v Speaker 1>on the set, the brothers playing basketball and Brandon Ingram's

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<v Speaker 1>just completely out on doing anything complying. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a huge brandon Ingram human being fan. Maybe things have changed,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they haven't. So before we get started, I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to personally address this new brandon Ingram quote. They asked

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Ingram the other night, a couple of nights ago,

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<v Speaker 1>about how he felt about Zion Williamson getting the All

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<v Speaker 1>Star spot at twenty years old, one of the youngest

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<v Speaker 1>to ever get that spot. And this is what Brendon

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<v Speaker 1>Ingram had the gall and audacity to say, I have

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<v Speaker 1>never played with a player as talented as me until

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<v Speaker 1>I played with Zion Williamson, folks. And then he said, oh, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Zion's generational talent, which I will say is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Zion is a generational talent.

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<v Speaker 1>He's tremendous athletically, he's skilled. Who cares that he only

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<v Speaker 1>has like one move around the rim. He's tremendous. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no disrespect to Zion Williamson when I say this is

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<v Speaker 1>just big time cap. This is the biggest cap ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, Brandon Ingram. Do you forget that you played

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<v Speaker 1>with Lebron James.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for a full season, for an.

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<v Speaker 1>Entire season when Lebron James was trying to get your

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<v Speaker 1>little ass out of there so that he could get

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<v Speaker 1>someone new he was trying to, hence the comment, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he's a little salty salty balls.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon Ingram like, what are you kidding me? What an oversight.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just no way he forgot that this is about

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<v Speaker 1>as bad as when Kyrie Irving said, oh, I finally

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<v Speaker 1>have someone now that I have KD that can hit

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<v Speaker 1>a final shot in the fourth quarter. Also forgetting that

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<v Speaker 1>he played with generational talent, one of the greatest of

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<v Speaker 1>all time, Lebron James. Also Brendan Ingram feeling himself. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go into who else he's played with. He's played with

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<v Speaker 1>the US Team USA in the National Select Team roster

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<v Speaker 1>with Daron Fox, with Jason Tatum. He also played the

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald's All American Game with Ben Simmons and Jaylen Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, Brandon Ingram, all those players not only

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<v Speaker 1>are better than you now, aka as good as you now.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that they were as good as you,

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<v Speaker 1>if not better even then, so folks. He also played

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<v Speaker 1>with Drew Holliday. Drew Holliday is much better than Brandon Ingram.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not even close.

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<v Speaker 3>In terms of team value yet it's not close.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, in terms of that's what we're talking about, right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Drew Holliday could lock down brandon Ingram in

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<v Speaker 1>one on one? Are we talking about one on one here?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know as in terms of team value for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>Drew Holliday. In terms of one on one, it's close,

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<v Speaker 1>totally different positions.

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<v Speaker 2>But who are you brandon Ingram to say this?

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<v Speaker 1>You are the second OP on a sub five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>team that is exciting as hell but is not doing

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<v Speaker 1>shit this year. So maybe, just maybe this year? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know how many teams had at least two legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>All Stars on their team before replacements?

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<v Speaker 2>Six? Six six This is a Marty segment.

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<v Speaker 3>Six teams, the Clippers.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lakers, the Jazz, the seventy six Ers, the Celtics.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Nets.

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<v Speaker 1>Six teams had at least two selected All Stars before replacements.

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<v Speaker 1>Who am I missing that's on that list? Who was

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<v Speaker 1>not on that list as a team Marty?

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<v Speaker 3>That would be the Phoenix fucking Suns.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not fair, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>All the best teams in the league this year have

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<v Speaker 1>multiple All Stars on and the Phoenix Suns are legitimately

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<v Speaker 1>one of them, except for the world is just a cruel,

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<v Speaker 1>cold place. As it relates to Devin Booker, they are

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<v Speaker 1>second best backcourt in the league behind the Nets Facts

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<v Speaker 1>and guess what, folks, for the sixth year in a row,

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<v Speaker 1>snub city population one Devin pretty Boy Booker.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've got a lot to say about this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I've it's taken. I've taken a good bit of time

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<v Speaker 3>to gather my thoughts on the snub. And normally I

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<v Speaker 3>think all star snubs are kind of, you know, silly

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about because there's always one. But this is

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<v Speaker 3>part of a bigger story and a bigger pattern of

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<v Speaker 3>disrespect that Devin Booker has been subjected to. I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>used to the slander. It honestly doesn't even really surprise me.

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<v Speaker 2>In You're unfaced when it came out in the group chat.

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<v Speaker 3>You're unfaced, yeah, because it's not a feeling of like

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<v Speaker 3>anger or saltiness that a lot of people you know,

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<v Speaker 3>want to make it into. It's just a confirmation of

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<v Speaker 3>feelings that Devin Booker is consistently disrespected and appreciated, and

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<v Speaker 3>that people switch up narratives to use against him at

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<v Speaker 3>every turn for years, despite putting up offensive numbers. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>immediately upon getting minutes in the league, people just wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to shit on him and give him the good stats,

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<v Speaker 3>bad team guy, that that label, that trope that's thrown

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<v Speaker 3>out all there. When he scored seventy in a game,

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<v Speaker 3>Median fans did everything to discredit it. In twenty eighteen nineteen,

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<v Speaker 3>he scored fifty in back to back games. SI now

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<v Speaker 3>Sports Illustrated is now defunct. Okay Video Platform did a

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<v Speaker 3>segment titled is Devin Booker actually good? After he scored

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<v Speaker 3>fifty points in back to back games? And I saw

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<v Speaker 3>a banner ad for a subfellow's hoodie when I went there,

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<v Speaker 3>so fuck you s I that double team video that

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<v Speaker 3>came out. Do you remember that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I do.

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<v Speaker 3>It was him and a scrimmage. It was like him, Joe, Kim,

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<v Speaker 3>Noah and a few other players. He got mad. He

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<v Speaker 3>was like, hey, stop double teaming me. Were here to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I do remember that, And everybody was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Booker, you can be double.

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<v Speaker 3>What Devin Booker doesn't like to work was basically what no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To work on my game, I get double teamed every

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<v Speaker 1>single night because I am amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't need to practice passing out of double teams.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 3>Before the Orlando Bubble last year, ESPN released an article

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<v Speaker 3>ranking the fifty best players in the bubble. It was

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<v Speaker 3>thirty one. He was behind the likes of Fred Van

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<v Speaker 3>Fleet and Montrez Harrel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yikes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we saw this coming. I knew it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen before it even happened. It was so clear

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<v Speaker 1>in my head, Yeah, that Devin Booker was gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>the snub. I mean it's death taxes and Devin Booker

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<v Speaker 1>not making.

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<v Speaker 3>The All Stars and Devin Booker disrespect.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just the way that it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>And we know, okay, yeah, Devin Booker filled in for

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<v Speaker 1>Dame Lillard and he played in the All Star Game.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you want to earn your spot, Devin.

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<v Speaker 1>Booker now getting a d spot not the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Booker is not a reserves reserve. That's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a respecting.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, absolutely, Yeah, a pattern of underappreciation and disrespect.

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<v Speaker 2>It's appalling.

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<v Speaker 1>I would says, it's past fucked up the way that

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<v Speaker 1>they treat him. And it's not just about the All

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<v Speaker 1>Star selections. It's about everything that goes around that comes

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<v Speaker 1>with the narrative of Devin Booker. And the way that

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Booker put on a show leading up to the

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<v Speaker 1>selection meant to me personally. He was doing everything that

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<v Speaker 1>he could to break down any potential naysayer. He was

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<v Speaker 1>balling for the last three weeks before the selection came out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, the last like ten games leading up

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<v Speaker 3>he was real special.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty points, four and a half rebounds, and five assists

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<v Speaker 1>in his last nine games. Yeah, where the Suns went

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<v Speaker 1>seven and two. So its stats and it's winning. And

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<v Speaker 1>you knew that. The motivation for him to ball out

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<v Speaker 1>was because he was like, Hey, what more do you

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<v Speaker 1>need from me, Devin pretty boy Booker in order to

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<v Speaker 1>make the game. Yeah, he's put not only is he

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<v Speaker 1>putting on a show. Let's just talk about who they've

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<v Speaker 1>beaten in that time period. In the last few weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>they've beaten Boston, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, New Orleans with the historic comeback.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and they mauled my team in Portland. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was like getting destroyed by a bear. Yea

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<v Speaker 1>just when the attention was the brightest, Devin Booker has

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<v Speaker 1>shown up the most, and apparently he's just not an

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<v Speaker 1>All Star.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just not good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a good time to remember and a good

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<v Speaker 1>time to remind everyone that this is not just fuck

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<v Speaker 1>them kids, this is also NBA coaches that are disrespecting

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<v Speaker 1>him in his own conference because you the way that

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<v Speaker 1>the rules go is, Western Conference coaches have to vote

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<v Speaker 1>for the Western Conference reserves. Eastern Conference same deal. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>vote for your own team players, you can only vote.

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<v Speaker 2>For everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet they were like, nah, you know who we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to give it to instead, Paul George.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul George is missed a third of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's missed ten games, folks, how do you make

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<v Speaker 1>Paul George an All Star when he's missed one third

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<v Speaker 1>of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Alright, it's inexplicable, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Like CJ. McCollum would say.

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<v Speaker 1>Make it make sense, make it make sense respectfully, please.

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<v Speaker 1>So Paul George is basically doing the exact same thing

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<v Speaker 1>as Devin Booker. He's averaging twenty four six and five.

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<v Speaker 1>Book is averaging twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>To four and four.

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<v Speaker 1>Both play with current All Stars with Kawhi and Chris Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>he's scored eighteen or more. Devin Booker has scored eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>or more in twenty five out of twenty seven games,

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<v Speaker 1>So he's consistent as hell.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like he's Boomer Bust Averages either, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and the Suns being the hottest team in basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>They're twenty and ten, including nine of their last eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know who ends up getting all.

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<v Speaker 2>The shine for that, Chris Paul. Yeah, Chris Paul average sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was the weird one that didn't get talked

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<v Speaker 3>about a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 2>One of these things are not like the other.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's just I'm cool with the coaches voting if

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<v Speaker 3>they're just gonna be consistent about how they vote. Because

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<v Speaker 3>last year in the All Star Game, Booker got left

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<v Speaker 3>out and was who did they have in there? They

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<v Speaker 3>had Westbrook, Chris Paul, and Donovan Mitchell, all who he

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<v Speaker 3>had better stats than. And the argument was, oh, you're

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<v Speaker 3>just you don't have the team success, you're not doing enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's bullshit, because Bradley Beal made the All Star Team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Wizards at that point in time were one

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<v Speaker 1>of the worst teams in the East, so they just

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<v Speaker 1>keep switching up on what the actual criterion is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Zion bothers me too, because their stats are pretty

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<v Speaker 3>comparable if you want to get I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 3>Zion shooting sixty two percent from the field, so like,

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<v Speaker 3>I get that, but it's just a complete one eighty

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<v Speaker 3>from how they did it last year. And then there

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<v Speaker 3>were people saying, oh, Mike Conley should be eighties. That

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<v Speaker 3>was joke, phl that was that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was joke, Phil.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just don't see it. What is it

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<v Speaker 1>going to take. What do the numbers need to be?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like you said, it was at first, all numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>no wins. Now it's oh, well the wins are really

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<v Speaker 1>for Chris Paul and before he got there.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, well, actually, folks, Devin Booker.

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<v Speaker 1>Led the Suns to going eight and oh in the bubble,

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<v Speaker 1>they were already rising, they were already arriving prior to

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Paul getting to the team. Yep, they are. The

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<v Speaker 1>entire NBA media is well. Actually, Devin Booker every step

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<v Speaker 1>of the way. And I think it's because he's so

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<v Speaker 1>good looking. I think he's so smooth. He has everything

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<v Speaker 1>going for him. He's pretty in the face, he's dating

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<v Speaker 1>Kendall Jenner, and they're like, you know what, fuck him.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would we give Devin Booker more things to hang

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<v Speaker 1>his pretty little hat on. Let's take the one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>one piece of control we can get away from him,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that All Star spot, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is meaningful. You might say to yourself, well, why does

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<v Speaker 1>it matter? It matters for legacy?

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<v Speaker 2>It does?

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<v Speaker 3>It does, Yeah, people talk about it a lot. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of legacy, I love Chris Paul, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>a legacy vote. That was He's averaging seventeen four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half nine great, But is that if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>put Chris Paul in, you have to vote Bookrin because

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<v Speaker 1>they're on the same team and Booker's averaging more stats.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It's like, oh, with Chris Paul, winning matters, but

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<v Speaker 3>with Zion stats matter. With Paul, it's I.

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<v Speaker 2>Demand an investigation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's it's just pure hypocrisy, and I'm sick

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<v Speaker 3>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see who voted for who.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, really, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Want them to stand in front of a podium and

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<v Speaker 1>explain to me why, because I believe it's undefendable. So

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<v Speaker 1>even though we saw this coming, the outrage was even

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than we all would expect because Lebron James took

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<v Speaker 1>to Twitter and said book is the most disrespected player

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<v Speaker 1>in the league right now, except and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Follow by game Dollar.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So even though we all saw it coming, as

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell, I am outraged.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just want to go back to what I

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<v Speaker 3>was saying earlier. I know I didn't talk a whole

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<v Speaker 3>lot about this All Star Game. I hope I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of made my point heard that it's just garbage that

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<v Speaker 3>they've one year it's about wins and team success and

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<v Speaker 3>then the next it's about oh do stats say this?

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a pattern of disrespect that Devin Booker has

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<v Speaker 3>experienced basically since he came to the league, And I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of understand it. He was on a bad team,

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<v Speaker 3>people weren't really watching, there were no national games, and

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<v Speaker 3>they formed an opinion on him unfairly that he was

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<v Speaker 3>just a good stats on special score like a Kevin Martin.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of people thought of him as that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and yeah, I heard that quite a bit, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just hope people understand now the pattern of disrespect

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<v Speaker 3>that Devin Booker has had to deal with through his career,

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<v Speaker 3>and go watch him, watch him play, and reevaluate your

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<v Speaker 3>feelings on him, because I guarantee he's a different player

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<v Speaker 3>than he was three years ago. When you probably last

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<v Speaker 3>watch a son's game.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about that Hornets game last night?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that was part of a Devin Booker

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<v Speaker 1>disrespect because what happened was Devin Booker was egregiously fouled.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and no foul was called. Yeah. No.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you really start to sound like a Homer

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<v Speaker 3>when you get on and complain like, oh, Devin Booker

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<v Speaker 3>never gets calls, but he kind of doesn't. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to be that guy, but he kind of doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>And you see worse players get it, like Bradley Beal

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<v Speaker 3>gets that call and then not that I'm saying Bradley

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<v Speaker 3>Beal's worst, but Damian.

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<v Speaker 1>Lillard for sure gets that call. Harden gets that call.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, damn right, Marty, make it make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a DC segment. Are the Wizards better than

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<v Speaker 2>we think?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's possible. I think it's possible that the

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<v Speaker 1>Wizards have turned a corner. No team more decimated by

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<v Speaker 1>COVID than them When Adam's was just making Miami go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and play with seven guys. They shut Washington

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<v Speaker 1>down for thirteen days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Wizards got shot. Shut down for a full

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>No practice, no communication with your capadres, no contact, no nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>just zoom practices.

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<v Speaker 2>Just brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was on record during the pod saying that

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<v Speaker 1>the Wizards might never play another game again this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, No, I mean they're by far the team

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<v Speaker 3>most affected by COVID this year. They missed the most

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<v Speaker 3>time and the most games two full weeks at a stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>San Antonio was close most recently, but their back playing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and san Antonio.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know which is worse, san Antonio missing like

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<v Speaker 1>like one week and then another week, or whether just

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<v Speaker 1>an entire two week layoff is worse. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>worse when you're just getting You're just getting a ramp

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<v Speaker 1>up for you to just be out for two solid weeks, missing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ten games. Right before they shut down, they

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<v Speaker 1>played the Suns and they beat the shit out of your.

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<v Speaker 2>Sons, Marty.

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<v Speaker 1>They things seem like maybe they had their mojo going.

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<v Speaker 1>It was early in the season. No one really knew

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<v Speaker 1>who was gonna be good and who was not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be good? And then they came back and then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden they obviously were super rusty, right, And

0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.480
<v Speaker 1>all of us didn't really think about the rust, myself included,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're like, oh, yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Wizards are trash. The Wizards are big trush.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because they're always big trash. So we just expect

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<v Speaker 1>that just because something happened last year and the year

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<v Speaker 1>before that and probably the year before that, then it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna continue to persist into the indefinite future.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Also on top of that, they were the second worst

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<v Speaker 1>defense in the NBA. I believe at that point that

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley Beal said at one point he was a we can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Guard a park car.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That was when I was like, yo, burn it.

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<v Speaker 1>Down, send Bradley Beal somewhere else, like trade him, trade

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<v Speaker 1>him free.

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<v Speaker 2>We were all like, free Bradley Beal, free him. It

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<v Speaker 2>feels like just yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what happened, And we were also like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Westbrook and Bradley Beal, Oh I don't know about

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<v Speaker 1>that are much.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's going to take the last shot? It's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be Russell Westbrook.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacking it up, bricking from forty and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, Russell Westbrook because he was out there. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he said he was playing with one leg at

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<v Speaker 1>one point, because that's that's the kind of caliber of

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<v Speaker 1>player that Russell Westbrook is.

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<v Speaker 2>He finally got healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first time he said that he was feeling

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<v Speaker 1>right the entire season was that win against the Nets,

0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:41.760
<v Speaker 1>and the Nets had everybody kde Harden Kyrie and the

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Wizards beat him on a last second steal and

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<v Speaker 1>buzzer beater, whoa, whoa, And we were like, wow, Okay,

0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:55.159
<v Speaker 1>maybe this is just a grudge game, maybe it's just

0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Russ playing against former teammates. But as as I am

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, as we are collectively a lot, we are

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<v Speaker 1>wrong because they've figured out their defense coinciding with the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same time that Russ got healthy, and things have

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<v Speaker 1>looked pretty different over the last thirteen games. They're eight

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<v Speaker 1>and five.

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<v Speaker 2>They beat the number one team in the East, the

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<v Speaker 2>number one team in the West.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, they've been playing good teams in the stretch, like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They went on the road trip west and buzzed through

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<v Speaker 1>their opponents that they had no business beating none they're

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<v Speaker 1>one of the hottest teams now in the league. They

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Blazers, the Nuggets, the Sixers, the Lakers, all

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<v Speaker 1>on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>So why the question is why? Why did this remarkable

0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:46.080
<v Speaker 1>change occur? Scotty Brook says, Russell Westbrook says, Bradley Beal says, Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you take two weeks off, it's really hard

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:52.160
<v Speaker 1>to be in game shape, right, and it's pretty hard

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.760
<v Speaker 1>to play consistently good defense when you're out of condition.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe when you play some games you

0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:02.120
<v Speaker 1>find only have your wind underneath you. They're a month

0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 1>removed from their fourth two week COVID vacation, and now

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, they're good at guarding the perimeter,

0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:14.639
<v Speaker 1>they're shutting down teams, and conditioning obviously matters. Plus I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you remember this or no this, but

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<v Speaker 1>Mo Wagner is now starting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that's one of the biggest reasons that

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<v Speaker 1>this Wizard's team, their starting corps and their bench is

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<v Speaker 1>now playing more effectively because you've got a big man

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<v Speaker 1>in Robin Lopez calming off the bench match up problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too, leading the team in a defensive rating with

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and one, putting the clamps on the Blazers,

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<v Speaker 1>holding every single opponent that he guarded zero for thirteen clamps.

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<v Speaker 2>We were hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Blazers were hot, and then we shot thirty five percent

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<v Speaker 1>from the field With Robin Lopez on us. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying he's the panacea for the Wizards.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's meaningful.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And ever since they've had that change, ever since they've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten healthy, ever since they came back to condition, and

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>ever since they made that lineup change, things have been different.

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<v Speaker 2>And I tell you, what, are the Wizards good? Are

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<v Speaker 2>they good now? I don't know what do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Have they figured their shit out?

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<v Speaker 3>They're definitely closer now than they were coming into the season.

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<v Speaker 3>I just really didn't like this roster and then just

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<v Speaker 3>Westbrook and Beale together, I just didn't really believe in.

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.399
<v Speaker 3>But I did like Thomas Bryant a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 3>when he went down, that's when I really gave up

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<v Speaker 3>on this team. So the two guys you just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>Wagner and Lopez coming in and making up for those

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:42.280
<v Speaker 3>minutes that they lost with Brian, I think it's been

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<v Speaker 3>a big, big factor in this surge.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is is the darkest before the dawn? Are

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<v Speaker 1>we now seeing the Wizards on a surge? Are they

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<v Speaker 1>possibly a playoff team?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It appears though, that I might have been a little

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<v Speaker 1>too early with my opinion that the Houston Rockets won

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<v Speaker 1>the John waltrade. So credit to me for saying that

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<v Speaker 1>I was wrong. Because Russell Westbrook is, according to Bradley Beal,

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 1>a perfect teammates. The teammates, all the teammates on the

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Washington Wizards say that Russell Westbrook is an incredible leader.

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<v Speaker 1>He's bringing it every night. And so now this team

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<v Speaker 1>has changed. Apparently they're beating good teams. They have the

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<v Speaker 1>six best defense over the last thirteen games, sixth best defense.

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>To go from the second to last worst defense to

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth best, I don't know how you make that change,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jesus Christ, I am now very excited to watch

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<v Speaker 1>Wizards games because they've always put up a shitload of points,

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:45.479
<v Speaker 1>but now they can actually defend. And now there are

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<v Speaker 1>only a couple of games out of the playoffs. So

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<v Speaker 1>if they end up sneaking into the eight seed, this

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<v Speaker 1>might be one of the greatest turnarounds seed in an

0:24:55.000 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>NBA season, so Philly, Philly. Anytime you don't make meaningful

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:06.399
<v Speaker 1>changes to your roster and you make the NBA Finals,

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<v Speaker 1>the natural assumption is that you'll probably be a favorite

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<v Speaker 1>to go back, right, Yeah, typically typically, Yeah, the Miami Heat,

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 1>even though they had one of the shortest off seasons

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<v Speaker 1>period other than the Lakers, should be right. There should

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<v Speaker 1>be one of those teams where you're like, yes, they should.

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Be a team.

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<v Speaker 1>It's third in the East, and they have been respectfully

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>big trash. They have been got hot hot and I

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:40.360
<v Speaker 1>don't mean sexy, I mean hot garbage, like the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of garbage in New York City in August, just like

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<v Speaker 1>flies swirling about emanating steam.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's been And I said they were like

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorites that I predicted going back and

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<v Speaker 1>being the contender in the East. And I I feel

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<v Speaker 1>very silly even saying that, given that they've been that bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But some of that kind of like the Wizards, not

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<v Speaker 2>really their fault.

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<v Speaker 3>Right yeah, yeah, no, couch of it was not, Yeah, covid.

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>This team was once forced to play, like I said

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>last segment, they were forced by Adam Silver's ass to

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<v Speaker 1>play with seven guys. They've missed only one game due

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<v Speaker 1>to COVID, but numerous players have missed time due to protocols,

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:33.440
<v Speaker 1>including Buckets, who missed ten games by the way, one

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 1>third of the season with COVID. Dragis missed fourteen games

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and will miss more time ankle injury.

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 2>He's old as fuck. They've cycled get this stet the Heat.

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:50.959
<v Speaker 1>The Miami Heat have cycled through more than fifteen starting lineups.

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<v Speaker 1>Are eighteen fifteen starting lineups so.

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<v Speaker 3>Far this year in like thirty one games.

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<v Speaker 1>In thirty one games, fifteen I would say that's hard

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>to get some chemistry and cohesion in your roster when

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>every night it's changing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say, so, uh, what is their fault is this?

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Pat Riley has decided or did decide, they were not

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<v Speaker 1>going to go after another point guard and Dragas as

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, Marty has limitations, one of those being father time.

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<v Speaker 2>He's pretty much missed.

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>He pretty much missed the entire NBA Finals last year,

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, Nah, we don't need to upgrade.

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 2>We're good with what we have. We'll stay pat.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat Riley, speaking of staying pat, Pat, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>They better make some move there there is no excuse

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>for not having a backup plan for an older, hobbled

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>point guard that had planter foreshitis last year and now

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 1>he's got an ankle bum ankle. The dude has will

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>say he's missing wheels now.

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Also, Kendrick Nunn is awful now.

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Kendrick Nunn somehow, somehow, I think that was probably their plan.

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:06.959
<v Speaker 1>And now they're scrambling evaluating whether they should bring Isaiah

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Thomas on to their roster. That's how bad things got

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>in the point guard spot for the Miami Heat, and

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>so not surprisingly, giving all these things, COVID no point guard,

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>point guards injured, they have sucked. And now that Jimmy's healthy,

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Holy shit, this is the heat we've been talking about.

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>This is the heat that we've been wanting to see.

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:32.360
<v Speaker 1>This is the heat that we expect to see. Right

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the team is slowly turning it back around. They're eight

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and three in their last eleven. They've won four in

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>a row. They beat the Lakers and the Raptors on

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the road, and Rachel Nichols recently interviewed Jimmy and asked

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>him how the heat we're playing at the moment, how

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>would you describe the way the Miami Heat are playing

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>basketball right.

0:28:55.560 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 4>Now, terrible, terrible, not the way that we say we

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 4>want to play, not the way we're supposed to be playing.

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 4>But it's okay because we will turn it around. And

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 4>like you're saying, said.

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<v Speaker 2>Better late than never, Yep, better late than never. That's true.

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>That was before they won on their little run and

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the Heat go where Jimmy goes.

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 2>So here's a little stat. The Heat are twelve and eight.

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>With Jimmy and three and nine without Jimmy. So if

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy hadn't missed any games, they'd be seventeen and thirteen,

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and if he's missed the full season, they'd be.

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Eight and twenty two.

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>At this point, that would mean either third in the

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>East with Jimmy or last in the East without him.

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I would say he's pretty critical to that team's success.

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's significant.

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 2>That's significant.

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Now what I am hearing a little Birdie has told me,

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's also very public in the NBA

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Twitter spheres if they're thinking about adding Victor Ola Depo.

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've heard that as well.

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 2>What do you think about that move?

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 3>I kind of love it.

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I think if you add Oladipo to that roster. Oh boy.

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know if they can get another point guard,

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 1>but at that point, it just really doesn't matter that much.

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 3>No, Jimmy Depo and Bam. I like that. I like

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 3>that trying whole lot.

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And they have a huge test coming up Friday night

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>they play the Jazz.

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 2>What do you think is gonna happen in that game?

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that they're gonna compete or do you

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>think that they're going to get their asses handed to them?

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Like every team that plays the Jazz recently has.

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm not picking against the Jazz until they give me

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 3>a reason to, especially after last night. They just came

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 3>in mault the Lakers. I think the Jazz are playing

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is far from a hot take, but

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 3>the jaz are playing better than anybody in basketball.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>All of that to say, if the Heat end up

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>getting a big player like Oladipo, you better watch out.

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Miami fan base is not necessary to pump them up. Also,

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Dragon's is coming back return is imminent, probably.

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Right before All Star break.

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm hearing yep.

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Bam is now looking healthy the same way that he

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 1>wasn't in the playoffs before his injury. And I tell

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you what, I don't think any Eastern Conference team, including

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 1>the Brooklyn Nets, want to see this team in the playoffs.

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>This Heat team in the playoffs, No way. This is

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 1>like a junkyard dog that has been desperate and hungry

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 1>and scrapping their way even to be in the playoffs,

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>which I think maybe makes them more dangerous than ever.

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>So I don't care where the Heat end up getting

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>seated eight seven. Does it matter if they are fully healthy.

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>The team that plays the Heat is the underdog.

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Count that.

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 3>Let's do it. Okay, first one, we've got why aren't

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.719
<v Speaker 3>more people talking about James Harden as a potential MVP?

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Why aren't people talking about James Harden as an MVP?

0:31:57.880 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a really really good question.

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I would say it's very similar to why Damian Lillard

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>is not getting any shine, And it's all.

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Based around the media.

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Once you get into that like stream, like that happens

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.959
<v Speaker 1>kind of prior to the year even starting. There's like

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>pre odds and like media chatter, and then you have

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 1>a good couple like maybe good ten games. That's why

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Lucas still in the MVP race. Just that's just the

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>hot thing to do. So you've got Braun, Embiid, Jokic,

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Luca and Jannis and Steph is a long shot. That's

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>where the media is right now. And that is what

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>is an NBA MVP narrative that will not change once

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you get like seven guys in that stream.

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it changes.

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Hardin is not part of that discussion, even

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>though I think he should be. And the reason why

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 1>is probably because of the way that he pushed his

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>way out of Houston. I think that makes it tough

0:32:56.680 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>for anyone to root for you. But let's get it straight, folks.

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>The reason that the Nets have had continuity, the reason

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that the Nets have continued to win, is because of

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>James Harden.

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 2>He is so durable.

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>That's the reason that the Size and Sean Marks decided

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>to go after him. To begin with, Durant has missed

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>a ton of games due to COVID. Now he's missing

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>games due to I don't know what we'll call it injury.

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it's injury. They maybe it's load management. Doesn't matter.

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Harden is that guy that can step in and be

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 1>a continuous force. Uh. Kyrie went on his little walkabout.

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>He did his little thing for a while. He's missed

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>some games due to injury as well.

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Who's there?

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Hardens there the most reliable guard possibly from a durability

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>standpoint in the NBA, it's Tim and Dame and.

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would say those two, those two consistently.

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I looked at Harden's stats. He's missed on average, like

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>five games a year for his.

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Entire career only. Yeah, he's been the league like twelve

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 3>years now.

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 2>It's incredible.

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>That guy that we joked about having a fat suit

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>on is doing everything for the team that should win

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.760
<v Speaker 1>the East. He's averaging I had to look these stats

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.240
<v Speaker 1>up twice. He's averaging twenty six or twenty five, seven

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and a half and eleven and eleven over eleven assists

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>a game is twice his career average.

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 2>That's the guy.

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>You remember Harden's narrative, right, he's selfish, he's selfish. He

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't like to pass.

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've heard that.

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:38.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he've heard that, right.

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>MVP Harden doesn't like to pass, even though he was

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>leading the league and assists that year as well. Yeah, narratives,

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:49.760
<v Speaker 1>he's doubling his assist amount per game now he's doing

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>exactly what this Brooklyn Nets team needs him to do.

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, he's got better odds or worse odds,

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>however you would like to call it, than Kevin Durant.

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant is a more favorite to win the MVP

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:06.280
<v Speaker 1>when he's not even playing games. Yes, sir, double Harden

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>is plus thirty three hundred and Crevin Durant is plus

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>fourteen hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, Kevin Durant plus fourteen hundred. That might be

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<v Speaker 3>the worst value bet in all sports, right, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, why would anyone, why would anyone put a dollar

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<v Speaker 1>a dollar into that? You know, it's interesting Harden because

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.959
<v Speaker 1>everybody joked after the trade that Harden wouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 1>to share the ball with Kyrie. And guess what, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't Houston anymore, folks. Where he needs to drop forty

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get off and in order for this

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<v Speaker 1>team to win. It's like, oh, well, Kyrie's there, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll play make for him and KD they're missing, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll drop forty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's insane to watch.

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Harden become this chameleon who matches his game to any scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was coming off the bench in OKC best

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<v Speaker 1>six man in basketball, number one option MVP, playing with

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<v Speaker 1>two other MVP quality players, playmaker James Harden one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoever asked this question disrespect.

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>James Harden one hundred percent deserves a dead serious look

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<v Speaker 1>at MVP this year.

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<v Speaker 2>And why isn't he Because the media fucking sucks.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why. Okay, moving on, We've got If the Sixers

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<v Speaker 3>trade for Lowry, big if how far do you think

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<v Speaker 3>they can go in the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 1>If the Sixers trade for Lowry, how far do I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they can go in the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the finals.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, probably pretty far. Probably adds another all star caliber player,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Lowry can do all the things that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to point guard to do. He can shoot, he can defend,

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<v Speaker 1>he can take charges, he can lead an offense. He's

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<v Speaker 1>outside of this year, pretty damn durable. The question is

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<v Speaker 1>what are the Sixers giving up to get him. It

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<v Speaker 1>appears that Kyle Lowry wants to go to Philly, But

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<v Speaker 1>the question is what does Philadelphia have to give up

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get them? Right?

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 2>If they keep their young core, everything's gravy trained.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like a Finals Finals destined team. If they

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<v Speaker 1>have to lose like Tobias Harris, that's trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's trouble. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The bigger question is, really, how does this team match

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<v Speaker 1>up with Kyle Lowry against the nets You've got. Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Lowry probably matches up with Harden, Tobias guards KD, Yah

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Simmons of guard KD or He'll rotate around and then

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<v Speaker 1>the big three now at that point are pretty well defended.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the only way I think that Philly can

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat stifle a team that's gonna score one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty points per game or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Uh. And then on top of that, Kyle Lowry

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<v Speaker 1>can when the lights are brightest. We know that Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Lowry shows up. We know what he did with the

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<v Speaker 1>Raptors when he was in the finals. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking monster.

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 3>He's a monster.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at this point, Kyle Lowry fan who asked

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<v Speaker 1>this beautiful question, is the perfect player to take pressure

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<v Speaker 1>off of your man, mister balloon hands, Ben Simmons. He

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<v Speaker 1>can then flex into the playmaker position with Ben, they

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<v Speaker 1>can rotate kind of like Lebron did with Rondo, where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, doesn't really matter who brings the ball up,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really matter who initiates the offense, and then Ben

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.479
<v Speaker 1>Simmons can get off in the post with his hard

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<v Speaker 1>shots against the backboard like he likes in his little

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>his little hook shots that he also likes, and then

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the lack of scoring that Ben Simmons has, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a non issue. So yeah, how does Kyle Lowry

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<v Speaker 1>affect this team? I would say a lot. I would

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<v Speaker 1>say this team is going to the finals if they

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<v Speaker 1>can wriggle their way into getting Lowry on and expiring

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<v Speaker 1>and keeping all their core guys. But that's pretty goddamn obvious,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Okay, do the Bulls sell or buy at the deadline?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I would have said originally that they would

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<v Speaker 1>be a seller because you.

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<v Speaker 2>Would want to get rid of those valuable pieces and.

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 1>You're a young franchise, up and coming franchise that it's

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>probably not going to win anytime soon, so you should

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>get some pieces develop your young core.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, are they one of the most surprising teams

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<v Speaker 2>of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh the Bulls yet I think so?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I said earlier that the Bulls were not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be good for an indefinite period of time, and

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I was wrong. They're not great, but they are good,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is important in a year that pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>the entire East is down right, Like everyone thought that

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:01.400
<v Speaker 1>this East would be strong, and now the Celtics are

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<v Speaker 1>sub five hundred and the Heat are a mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah we're baking from who knew?

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah we're back to new Yeah, but at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bulls check this out. They've beaten the Pacers, they've

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<v Speaker 1>beaten the Pelicans, they've beaten the Blazers, they've beaten the

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>MAVs twice, and they played the Lakers, Clippers and Blazers.

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<v Speaker 2>Tight, tight, tight. I would say that's an overachievement.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of that to say, I think you keep

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<v Speaker 1>on to every little piece you have and you maybe

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<v Speaker 1>pick up another asset just so that you can maybe

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<v Speaker 1>make a push to go to the second round.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would not sell zach Lavine at this moment.

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<v Speaker 2>No way, oh, no no way.

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<v Speaker 1>Flip Saunders said that zach Lavine was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a star, and everyone laughed him out of the gym,

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<v Speaker 1>and zach Lavine, let me tell you, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a star.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Bulls in general, even without Zach Lavine and

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<v Speaker 1>his thirty five points that he puts up nightly two

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:00.359
<v Speaker 1>nights ago, there were seven guys with ten or more

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<v Speaker 1>points on that squad.

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<v Speaker 2>That's deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I think the Bulls should probably be buyers.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to add defense, they have to add toughness.

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<v Speaker 1>They can score without marketing. Maybe maybe you get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of marketing and you try to bring in like a

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<v Speaker 1>John Collins.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that because I also I also really like

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Williams a lot, like I don't really like as a stretch.

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 3>I like Patrick Williams. There's a good basketball player in there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not exactly sure what it's gonna look like in

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<v Speaker 3>three years, but there is a good basketball.

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:27.479
<v Speaker 2>He's like a red onion. You have to peel back.

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<v Speaker 1>How many layers are you gonna have to go in

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<v Speaker 1>order to get a quality NBA player?

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the East is wide opening, and the

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Bulls house as good of a shot of taking advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of that as anybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's my answer. That's all the time that we

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