Speaker 1: You're listening to mess Okay, wow we're here.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, girl, what accent is that?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've just had to you know how you have to
Speaker 3: rep yourself up. You know, you will have one of
Speaker 3: those cars where you do like man, you will you
Speaker 3: be like m I had to rep myself up.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's how we do it. Yeah, thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I need some coffee, but I'll be okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah damn do I need some coffee?
Speaker 4: No, you don't know.
Speaker 2: You're doing great? Hey boo, what's up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Sydney, I feel like I haven't seen you
Speaker 1: all of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Oh loys, going for seven days? Just seven day?
Speaker 1: All that seven days? You was already gone for like
Speaker 1: seven days. Yeah, yeah, like seventy seven days. That's you
Speaker 1: know what, You're right all of twenty twenty five. I
Speaker 1: am a mess exclusive. I'm in a relationship. I have someone,
Speaker 1: and yes, yes I don't. I was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it, but I have someone.
Speaker 3: So now I split time and so I've been split
Speaker 3: time with them me.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean it's just crazy. I don't have
Speaker 2: enough time truly, just like where does the time go?
Speaker 3: So yeah, I came back from Brazil, went to Brazil
Speaker 3: for the birthday and love that. My mess of the
Speaker 3: week is I did not post about my birthday. That
Speaker 3: was dumb because people did not call me on my
Speaker 3: actual birthday. That was my mess. I was surprised. I said, wait,
Speaker 3: what nobody called own dry? My sister called me five times.
Speaker 2: That's messy.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I people didn't call. It was I was
Speaker 3: surprised people didn't call you, and that's a mess. Yeah
Speaker 3: that was because if you don't publicize your birthday, if
Speaker 3: you don't do if you don't make a big deal,
Speaker 3: then people don't make a big deal.
Speaker 2: You have to make a big deal. That's just what
Speaker 2: it is. Like you are the leader of how you
Speaker 2: want people to celebrate you.
Speaker 1: So I well remember back in the day, like you
Speaker 1: used to put it on face Book and then everybody
Speaker 1: would just be on your wall like love me birthday
Speaker 1: and you'd be like, I got this money cabins, they
Speaker 1: love me this year.
Speaker 2: People from Facebook messaged me.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I got my sister called five times and
Speaker 3: I said, this is insane. She's like, I'm not calling
Speaker 3: for anything, just to your birthday. I'm like, but don't
Speaker 3: act like you don't call for stuff.
Speaker 2: She's like, no, I was calling Greta.
Speaker 1: And I was like, damn. So my sister called five times.
Speaker 1: At least she knew that it was my birthday. Did
Speaker 1: you not pick up four times? Or did you pick
Speaker 1: pick up time?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I didn't pick up.
Speaker 3: She just kept calling because my phone was also on
Speaker 3: D and D. That's also a mess. D and D
Speaker 3: is a mess, but it's a productive mess because you're like,
Speaker 3: I'm putting up a boundary. I don't I don't want to,
Speaker 3: you know, engage right now.
Speaker 1: So your phone was on do not disturb, and you're
Speaker 1: mad that people didn't call you on your birthday.
Speaker 2: But your phone was on do not disturb.
Speaker 3: But people, dick, you still can call when you're on
Speaker 3: D and D because my sister called five times.
Speaker 2: Right, So you wouldn't have talked to anybody anyway. I was,
Speaker 2: you know, it depends.
Speaker 3: You know, you're right, But I would have looked and
Speaker 3: I would have called back, but there was there was
Speaker 3: no calls to call back.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you just had unlimited data when you travel?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: Originally I was like, oh, I'm not I'm trying to
Speaker 3: have my phone off so that I don't get international
Speaker 3: because when I went to Morocco, my phone bill was
Speaker 3: like full hundred some dollars.
Speaker 2: That's when I came back thatause I got paid.
Speaker 3: I got charged twelve dollars a day there ten days,
Speaker 3: plus whatever extra shit I did while it was there.
Speaker 1: You were on the Sydney was making full blown phone
Speaker 1: calls from a pyramid, like, yeah, it was on the
Speaker 1: phone right, so yeah, and not even WhatsApp the regular phone.
Speaker 1: She wasn't using What'sapp in Brazil either.
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't. I wasn't. She was like, go do
Speaker 2: it didn't go through. I was like, girl, why are
Speaker 2: you not calling me on WhatsApp?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was my girl rich No, it was stupid,
Speaker 3: but yeah it was. I did want a low key birthday,
Speaker 3: but I did make me sad that no one called.
Speaker 3: But I think it was because I was with my girlfriend.
Speaker 3: But I was like, my girlfriend doesn't supplement my friends.
Speaker 3: I still want my friends to call. Well, we all
Speaker 3: taught you in the group chat early in the morning.
Speaker 2: I don't want a text.
Speaker 5: I want to call.
Speaker 3: Everyone called me last year. I was like, what you
Speaker 3: were in the States, that's what's different. I went, I
Speaker 3: don't know you were in Puerto Rico last year? What
Speaker 3: did we call you every time? It doesn't matter where
Speaker 3: i'm you guys call me wherever I am anywhere.
Speaker 1: No, that's not true, because so I don't call you
Speaker 1: on your birthday every year because most of the birthdays
Speaker 1: I be there.
Speaker 2: We did Colla Rica.
Speaker 1: We did Costa Rica in twenty twenty two, twenty three, yes, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: twenty four you was in Puerto Rico and we called
Speaker 1: you because you were by yourself, because it was like
Speaker 1: I don't want her to get kidnapped or took or
Speaker 1: john Wick through whatever.
Speaker 2: So I had to make sure you were still alive.
Speaker 1: But did you you you're with your girl. When you're
Speaker 1: with your girl, I am leaving you alone. I'm letting
Speaker 1: you know that. I mean, I think you know that,
Speaker 1: but I'm just assuming you know that's y'all. She's you
Speaker 1: doing breakfast in bed? You know you you know croissant,
Speaker 1: a Brazilian croissant, if that's a thing, paste leo.
Speaker 2: I had a pastelo.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but I well, I think that like it's
Speaker 3: hard because it's like, yes, I'm with my girlfriend, but
Speaker 3: my girlfriend does not like my friends are more not
Speaker 3: more important, But I care about my friends just as much.
Speaker 2: Sounds like you need to bring us on the trip
Speaker 2: next year, will be there.
Speaker 3: Yes, But when we were in Costa Rica, I got
Speaker 3: I got phone calls on my birthday. So this was
Speaker 3: the first birthday I did not get phone calls and
Speaker 3: I was suprised.
Speaker 2: Surprise, surprise, Sabra. But we celebrated your birthday when you
Speaker 2: got back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, happy birthday, thank you, and everyone was saying it
Speaker 1: when they saw you when you got back.
Speaker 3: Yes, our guest today who's a close friend. I had
Speaker 3: this conversation with him before and he was like, I didn't.
Speaker 2: Call you, So it felt like that was ill.
Speaker 3: Never I will never do that again, take a trip
Speaker 3: or not post on your birthday.
Speaker 2: And then I, yeah, I don't. I know.
Speaker 3: It was like when you ain't got no hoes. It
Speaker 3: felt like that. That's what it felt like.
Speaker 1: But maybe people work on you. They just wasn't going through.
Speaker 1: No I could see no calls on my birthday. Well
Speaker 1: your phone doesn't work international for sure?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 5: Wow wow?
Speaker 2: Were your phone goes ghosts?
Speaker 3: That's crazy in Jamaica and Jamaica every every time you
Speaker 3: in Thailand.
Speaker 1: I've called you, No, Jamaica. My phone worked when I
Speaker 1: was on the Wi Fi. My phone always works on
Speaker 1: the Wi Fi. And that Verizon is mess so period
Speaker 1: except ex it.
Speaker 2: What's your mess?
Speaker 5: Mary?
Speaker 2: My mess is also family related? I don't what was
Speaker 2: your mess? Family related?
Speaker 1: No, my friends are my family. So yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: my message family related. My cousin got married last weekend
Speaker 1: and my mom did not go to the wedding. My
Speaker 1: mom didn't go to the wedding, and she made a
Speaker 1: whole big, dramatic thing about it and then tried to
Speaker 1: act like it wasn't a big deal when I spoke to.
Speaker 2: Her about it yesterday. Who he shit and so dramatic.
Speaker 1: So my cousin is my mom's nephew on my aunt's side,
Speaker 1: So my mom and his mom are sisters, and my aunt,
Speaker 1: you know, this is her her son getting married, her baby.
Speaker 1: So she got like a gold dress and silver shoes,
Speaker 1: and she got her hair done. It was a wig,
Speaker 1: but she, you know, she spent her like they spent
Speaker 1: money and whatever. And she was talking to my mom
Speaker 1: and my mom was like, I couldn't find something new
Speaker 1: to wear, so I'm just gonna wear a dress that
Speaker 1: I have, and my aunt was like, oh.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, calls my dad.
Speaker 1: Messy, calls my dad and it's like, I can't believe
Speaker 1: she didn't get a new dress for the wedding, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm going to wedding, I'm gonna dress
Speaker 1: up and I want to look good. And my dad
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, I can't believe that either. And
Speaker 1: then as soon as my mom got home, my dad
Speaker 1: was like, let me tell you what your sister said
Speaker 1: on the phone.
Speaker 2: Dad is mess. Mess. The auntie man mess. Auntie mess.
Speaker 2: Dad definitely mess.
Speaker 1: And but the way that my aunt explained it to me,
Speaker 1: she was like, well, your mom works really hard and
Speaker 1: she doesn't spend any money on herself.
Speaker 2: She deserves a nice note, does she does? She tell
Speaker 2: dad that. I'm sure she said that to my dad
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: And then because he wasn't invited to the wedding, Oh
Speaker 1: he wasn't invited, Mom didn't tell him.
Speaker 2: Oh, so it's the whole thing is mass. So that's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. When my aunt called to talk to
Speaker 2: him about the wedding, my dad was like.
Speaker 4: What wedding?
Speaker 2: Now that that's so mess. This is a layer.
Speaker 1: This is a panini layered of mess that yeah, panini
Speaker 1: press mess, Panini press mess souh. You know, my dad
Speaker 1: was just itching to tell my mom what my aunt said,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he added extra adjectives to the story, right,
Speaker 1: And so he told he was like, yeah, she said,
Speaker 1: you don't have nothing new to wear, oh bitch. And
Speaker 1: my mom was like, well, I guess I'm not going
Speaker 1: to the wedding because they're not about to be looking
Speaker 1: at me like I'm homeless at this wedding and I
Speaker 1: don't need nobody talking about me. So this is the
Speaker 1: night before the wedding, my mom decides this. Me and
Speaker 1: my sister are like, what if we send you a uber?
Speaker 1: What if we send you a car? My Mom's like,
Speaker 1: I won't be there, no thanks, And she didn't come.
Speaker 1: Then I'm talking to her on the phone like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be mad Haitians at this wedding. You know, they're
Speaker 1: gonna look crazy, like it's gonna be mad aunties and uncles,
Speaker 1: they gonna look wild, like just show up. And my
Speaker 1: mom was like no, and it was like such a
Speaker 1: beautiful wedding. My cousin like was sad that she wasn't there.
Speaker 1: But like you had such a nice time, and it
Speaker 1: was like we're getting you're getting older, we're getting older,
Speaker 1: Like this is the time to like be free and
Speaker 1: do what you want. And instead you're just like mad
Speaker 1: that this dress that would have looked great at the wedding.
Speaker 1: You're mad, dad, She said that it wasn't new girl girl.
Speaker 3: I mean, but as somebody who I feel your mom
Speaker 3: on it, because it's like yo, trying to find an
Speaker 3: outfit is so annoying and stressful and depending on like
Speaker 3: how you're feeling, and so you're like, oh, I already
Speaker 3: got something. I'm gonna bring that. And then somebody makes
Speaker 3: a comment that something you were probably already like stressed
Speaker 3: out about. You're like, you know what, fuck it, I
Speaker 3: don't need it, I don't need to come whatever. Nobody
Speaker 3: don't see me. My presence was a present goodbye, and
Speaker 3: so yeah, I would have went anyway, but she didn't.
Speaker 3: It already like messed up her mental and I'm sure
Speaker 3: your mother was like ego about it, like goodbye, y'all
Speaker 3: have fun now.
Speaker 1: And then the next day my aunt was at my
Speaker 1: mother's house and they were talking like nothing happened, missed
Speaker 1: the whole wedding, missed the whole wedding, but like had
Speaker 1: a card for my cousin with money and it Like, girl,
Speaker 1: you could have just came to the wedding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't want to come.
Speaker 3: What's cousin Andrews the vemo so we can send cinema gift,
Speaker 3: Cindema wedding gift. But congratulations, brother, we have another reason
Speaker 3: to celebrate today, Yes we do.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited, so happy.
Speaker 3: Fabulous guests in the studio, the best, the best, I mean,
Speaker 3: you were unofficial expert of the unofficial expert, truly one
Speaker 3: of the stars of Abbot Elementary, one of the stars. Yes,
Speaker 3: and all number seven on the call, all all all
Speaker 3: things theater and plays and greatness.
Speaker 2: Larry Owens is in the building and.
Speaker 1: The building, the building.
Speaker 4: I just put gum with that moment.
Speaker 2: That's a mess. Yeah, chewing chewing gum, chewing on the pod.
Speaker 5: You don't yet, I know, doing around no respect.
Speaker 3: You're gonna swallow it, you swallow it? Yeah, you're not.
Speaker 3: You truly can't chew on the past.
Speaker 1: Crazy get that you needed you making me swallows crazy?
Speaker 2: Swallow?
Speaker 1: Are you saying that this is not your your mother?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 2: Seconds whoa.
Speaker 4: You got Okay, that's my phone charger.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I sort of kicked it out of the plug
Speaker 5: at twenty person, I can get down the road.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean if you need to do it,
Speaker 2: just at any point, we could do it and put
Speaker 2: it on put it on airplane mode.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't need this live camera to see
Speaker 5: me sort of plugging in an the bias.
Speaker 2: Give me your phone. Take that gum off, the loose
Speaker 2: gum off.
Speaker 3: You have gum for later on the phone, Larry.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of mess going on, this whole thing.
Speaker 4: Actually, yes, an invoice from iHeart.
Speaker 1: Yes, you break it, you buy it, break it, you
Speaker 1: buy it.
Speaker 5: I can reach it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And you know who didn't do this when they came
Speaker 1: to I heeart Riah car Sure didn't quen remove them?
Speaker 5: Yeah right here? Yeah, yeah, I don't really need to
Speaker 5: Wikipedia anything.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 5: I know everything about you too, Yeah, okay, you know everything.
Speaker 2: Okay, Middle, you're putting more gum in your mouth.
Speaker 1: This is chaos, This is truly Wow. I can't believe
Speaker 1: we're off the rails.
Speaker 2: This put more don't come out?
Speaker 5: Whoa?
Speaker 2: We said?
Speaker 3: You know it's crazy because the title now the pod
Speaker 3: truly becoming the titles every.
Speaker 4: Time you want to be in the studio with us.
Speaker 1: You got it, Maria carric Ma, Malary car Larry, They're
Speaker 1: going to when you post this on Patreon, eventually they're
Speaker 1: going to see it.
Speaker 4: Yes, this is edits, which is why I didn't want
Speaker 4: to bend over.
Speaker 1: Okay, Larry, do you have any thoughts on what you
Speaker 1: heard so far from the first half?
Speaker 5: The first of all, congratulations chef Drew, Drew cousin Drew,
Speaker 5: I really do, I know everything.
Speaker 4: And Drew is just what an upstanding man.
Speaker 2: He is so good, a good man.
Speaker 5: We're just really happy for your family movie. And we're
Speaker 5: actually really happy to hear about the inner workings of Mets.
Speaker 4: Sort of the mess that made you so that is
Speaker 4: maybe is sort.
Speaker 2: Of king of the mess. You're princess mass Yeah, isn't
Speaker 2: your genetic.
Speaker 5: It's I love to hear that. And honestly, like, there's
Speaker 5: nothing like good petty mess.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the.
Speaker 5: Petty or the mess actually kind of like the better.
Speaker 5: It tastes like a little or dirt. Yeah, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. You get like a little like caviar
Speaker 5: chip with crem fresh. You like, that's like, you know,
Speaker 5: when the mess is small, now the global mess is
Speaker 5: less funny.
Speaker 2: Well, the global mess is people are dying every day.
Speaker 2: Everything was a dress, right.
Speaker 1: The petite mess is like this is.
Speaker 2: I love your mom.
Speaker 3: So I when you when you were texting me this,
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, okay, like I don't want a
Speaker 3: feelings to be heard.
Speaker 4: Also, she kind of needs this small drama.
Speaker 5: This is what makes her indie film of her life,
Speaker 5: like after a twenty four films.
Speaker 4: Dress dress, you know what I mean, he's already doing it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I got a time child.
Speaker 5: I can't know new projects okay, Yeah, we can't nothing
Speaker 5: up off the side of the road.
Speaker 2: You know, is that what you call me?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: You know that film is going to be gorgeous.
Speaker 5: That's going to take five years to bring it from
Speaker 5: and I charge you with that. And in regards to
Speaker 5: your mess, yeah, hiding oneself is mess.
Speaker 4: I did the same thing one birthday.
Speaker 5: I didn't post and then I found myself inside with
Speaker 5: you know, my you know, my my move your musicals
Speaker 5: being like where's the fanfare? And mind you, the fanfare
Speaker 5: is out there even if we think we don't need it,
Speaker 5: because it's actually not about vanity or ego, Like I
Speaker 5: did try to explain this to you because you.
Speaker 2: Were like wait, you were like you know, you were like, wait,
Speaker 2: but I don't calling you.
Speaker 5: I was, Oh, but yes, It's like it's actually an
Speaker 5: acknowledgment that this life is tough as fuck and like
Speaker 5: your body, no matter what the fuck you think happened,
Speaker 5: went through three hundred and sixty five days like everybody else,
Speaker 5: and we're just gonna acknowledge and celebrate that, and like
Speaker 5: it kind of spiritually needs to be done because and
Speaker 5: you don't get to the world alone.
Speaker 1: And the birthday, the birthday day is so nice because
Speaker 1: it's like people that you haven't spoken to in weeks, months,
Speaker 1: maybe since your day, they pop back up and they're
Speaker 1: like hey, and I like calling people on their birthdays
Speaker 1: because I know that they're busy, so the calls.
Speaker 2: Will be shure, Yeah, how you doing today, Happy birthday?
Speaker 2: Don't want to hold you, gotta go.
Speaker 4: Exactly, And that's what you wanted to feel.
Speaker 5: You wanted to feel like like even just one would
Speaker 5: have been one versus zero. Now happened zero was fucked
Speaker 5: up feeling Yeah, but it was exactly what you asked for.
Speaker 5: Who but going away to.
Speaker 4: A foreign country with the park and not posting on
Speaker 4: social media.
Speaker 2: Shoot me up.
Speaker 5: Volition you chose, yeah, volition, Yeah, down into the mic
Speaker 5: Hey positive for both. It's so delicious. Let's keep it small.
Speaker 5: Let's keep it smallst keep it unimportant, and then acknowledge
Speaker 5: ourselves like it's gonna feel tough. Like it's like life
Speaker 5: is mess like it's messy, which means that you know,
Speaker 5: every cooking has clean up. So if you're gonna enjoy
Speaker 5: the food, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Larry owen.
Speaker 1: The video camera, but you're all around, maybe you're on
Speaker 1: Every cooking has a clean up.
Speaker 5: Now you enjoy the food, you have a writer up
Speaker 5: and you also have to there's a.
Speaker 1: Little creative there's reads out loud. Now you hear it now, Larry,
Speaker 1: I love you now, Larry? What what?
Speaker 2: What? What is your mess?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 4: My mess is it's it's I don't.
Speaker 2: Didn't pare a mess?
Speaker 1: Okay, chewing gum didn't bring mess?
Speaker 4: Is my mess? Like truly like having to arrive here.
Speaker 5: And like both like put like my voice into this thing.
Speaker 5: And also now we go on camera, so like now
Speaker 5: like look amazing?
Speaker 4: Do I look?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: All right? So and then you know you just go
Speaker 4: off the dome.
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's wild and yeah, I do think
Speaker 5: you know, some people with microphones, not the girls in
Speaker 5: this room, are responsible for a lot of the collapse
Speaker 5: of society. Can you have all the cards? It really democratized.
Speaker 5: We used to have to get cleared and pass a
Speaker 5: step up on stage and like hold attention. Not anymore,
Speaker 5: people just recline. I don't want to go negative on the.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, you're going no, that is my mess.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, Your negative in that house is hilarious.
Speaker 1: That's another type of the pot. Now you could do both,
Speaker 1: though you can you go in and out.
Speaker 5: No, but my mess is that, like I like, I'm like,
Speaker 5: I want to lean into the mess of it and
Speaker 5: like not even choose.
Speaker 2: Your episode will be the messiest one we've ever Yes,
Speaker 2: we do. Yeah, the episode.
Speaker 4: We love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, inside the Messa verse, Well I will I will
Speaker 1: say this because we are close.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: You don't like podcasting yourself because you don't want to
Speaker 3: reveal you're vulnerable.
Speaker 5: No, don't want to do anything actually for the Wikipedia.
Speaker 5: Yeah is gay?
Speaker 4: I like that?
Speaker 1: Also a great titles gay.
Speaker 5: Actually really love it.
Speaker 2: That's all your Wikipedia said, I think.
Speaker 5: I haven't been, but like there's like a personal life,
Speaker 5: you know, and it's like let's look up.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I love Wow. It doesn't need to be too much.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to have to scroll too
Speaker 2: much to see things.
Speaker 5: No, No, it's it's definitely like it's an amazing like
Speaker 5: way of getting the audiences. Like you two are the
Speaker 5: best at the form, like the joy and like the
Speaker 5: surprising moment and the guessing the relationship between you two,
Speaker 5: Like it's so like.
Speaker 4: You were actually like you know, on the pioneering end
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 1: So of this art, your heart a bitch pioneers.
Speaker 4: I'm so Julie on my back.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: So the one thing about podcasting for you, you don't
Speaker 3: want to give extra because you already gave so much
Speaker 3: like in real life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, you know, like the work really I
Speaker 5: love the work speaking for itself. Like I'm so interested
Speaker 5: in people's work in their process, and I think that
Speaker 5: that's so generous of artists to give over and so
Speaker 5: then to like give over more. It's like we actually
Speaker 5: have people doing these jobs now, you know, influencers and
Speaker 5: reality stars, like they don't make art.
Speaker 4: So you know, have them.
Speaker 2: Die influencers and reality stars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like let's talk about that, right, Like can
Speaker 1: we talk about reality stars? Which ones anyone that you
Speaker 1: want to talk about? Because you are you are a
Speaker 1: reality TV fan?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched I watched Salt Lake. I just finished
Speaker 4: that reunion.
Speaker 2: Did you watch the Salt Lake When Mary Mary is good?
Speaker 4: Mary's coming back? You don't even Marry.
Speaker 2: Mary took the cake. She took the cake.
Speaker 5: It's Mary's arc Marie, Like just from Mary alone, she
Speaker 5: left for a little bit. Don't have to watch that, Yeah,
Speaker 5: but from like watch season one where she's like, what, like,
Speaker 5: what the hell am I doing on TV? And then
Speaker 5: she comes back after her little break. She knows what
Speaker 5: she's doing on TV.
Speaker 3: Okay, which is very beautiful to see because now everyone
Speaker 3: gets on reality and they know they're in reality TV,
Speaker 3: and they're like are they already picked?
Speaker 2: Oh, who I'm going to be?
Speaker 1: And it's already it's too calculated, calculated, and they're preoccupied,
Speaker 1: and it's like, where's the funny.
Speaker 5: You're not leaving any room for what actually being a
Speaker 5: housewife is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what the beast, that's the monster of the housewives, right.
Speaker 1: The first seasons of it, it was like legit women,
Speaker 1: just you know that have money, and we're doing their
Speaker 1: own makeup, and we're wearing stuff from Barney's or Bloomingdale's
Speaker 1: or Sacks or whatever, coals.
Speaker 2: And maybe not coals.
Speaker 1: And they were just saying funny things and being like
Speaker 1: going to events and having a good time. And now
Speaker 1: it's like I'm trying to sell a wine, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get a spin off, I'm trying to start.
Speaker 2: My own wig line, and it's like they're trying to
Speaker 2: sell a brand.
Speaker 5: Salt Lake Works because it is this weird microcosm, like
Speaker 5: they're kind of secluded, like and nothing else going on
Speaker 5: in Salt Lake besides kind of the petty mess, right,
Speaker 5: and then they also have this backdrop of religion and
Speaker 5: like Marianda Church and a lot of them are Mormons.
Speaker 5: Like that also just kind of gives a little, you know,
Speaker 5: a little specificity. Like now the coastal ones are a
Speaker 5: little too wide. It's like the New York girls wouldn't
Speaker 5: be in the same room. Not in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Now I'm so upset. I'm so upset that they let
Speaker 3: New York go like this. I'm so it was so
Speaker 3: fun before Derenda, Ramona Luan Sonya, like those those witch
Speaker 3: just came in there, like I don't care what anybody thinks.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be racist, We're gonna be stupid. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be bad with money. My house got a lean on it. Whatever,
Speaker 3: let's go. My house got a lean on it.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 4: I know they they were, they were so good.
Speaker 5: I think New York reached a tipping point where it
Speaker 5: was like, you're out of tricks now, those that set
Speaker 5: of women. But I feel like there was something that
Speaker 5: they could have done to just shake that set up
Speaker 5: or like same same series that's like like have like
Speaker 5: a little fifteen minutes manhat fifteen minutes Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: Like something something time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, girl slowly introduced some girls who like actually know
Speaker 5: each other. Yeah, and it's meant to be different. But yeah,
Speaker 5: it's a shame. It's a shame.
Speaker 3: Nobody has a memorable line. Give me the like, no,
Speaker 3: like watch Niini Leaks and come back, take a class, do.
Speaker 4: Something emblematic of culture.
Speaker 5: Me was spilling her well from hanging out with some
Speaker 5: good old black gays in Atlanta. So when you aren't
Speaker 5: getting Nani Leaks and I know that between black women
Speaker 5: and queer black men there's a cultural exchanged. Chicken egg,
Speaker 5: I know who started it.
Speaker 2: You don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 1: It's the black woman because they gave birth to the
Speaker 1: black man, okay.
Speaker 4: Or it's the black gays have to defy the black women.
Speaker 4: It's homophobia.
Speaker 1: No, no, you wouldn't be here.
Speaker 5: If it wasn't for a black woman woman as a
Speaker 5: black man. Only my privilege, I'll concede. Okay, okaymen, yeah,
Speaker 5: make it easy. But I hear what you're saying exactly,
Speaker 5: but saying that Nemi is bringing that to her reads.
Speaker 4: Reading.
Speaker 5: Shade came from reading. Reading came first. This is a
Speaker 5: quote from Paris is Burning. And then we have in
Speaker 5: the mid twenty tens, white people saying she's shading her.
Speaker 5: You don't shade anyone, You throw shade.
Speaker 2: Okay to teach.
Speaker 5: And Hires built off Atlanta, popped it Jersey for the
Speaker 5: table who.
Speaker 3: Prostitution, whror horror, eyebrows non existent. That's forehead on zero
Speaker 3: negative head.
Speaker 2: Great, great title. I'll take that. Yeah, I wish for that.
Speaker 2: That's one of my for sure.
Speaker 5: You know, but Mary Mary learned organically. Mary like she came,
Speaker 5: she kind of fell in her face. Were like, you're
Speaker 5: so weird and she could have crumbled, but she came
Speaker 5: back weirder than ever, like leaning. And then the season
Speaker 5: with her her son's addiction, just like.
Speaker 3: The love that, but not love addiction. But they love
Speaker 3: when you are vulnerable. They love it when they know you.
Speaker 5: Are actually remarkable, because you would think from three seasons
Speaker 5: of Salt Lake that Mary can't you know, I can't
Speaker 5: be there from for someone like you kind of doubt
Speaker 5: her as a spiritual leader, and she actually did. She
Speaker 5: practiced what she each in that moment. No me, I'm
Speaker 5: a synec I'm watching I'm like production cut, voiceover cut,
Speaker 5: like the match, look at the wine classes. I'm not
Speaker 5: really watching reality with my heart open. But you know,
Speaker 5: Mary got a little got me a little misty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have the journey fun.
Speaker 3: No, she did because it was like I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't have a son, but I've dealt with addiction.
Speaker 3: And where she where she was coming from, I was like,
Speaker 3: that's what he needs, he needs that. I was like, yes,
Speaker 3: this is exactly how you're supposed to look at it.
Speaker 2: Damn, I don't I don't watch something but if you there,
Speaker 2: there's clips on it. There's clips. I did watch Secret
Speaker 2: Life of Mormons? Is that was? What was that? The
Speaker 2: show Mormons of what are the sex Lives of?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I watched a couple of episodes of that.
Speaker 1: They all look the same and they right, yeah, they
Speaker 1: all have the same extensions.
Speaker 2: They go to the same lady they go to. It's
Speaker 2: the same place. They all soaking together, you know, yeah, soaking.
Speaker 4: We all know this.
Speaker 5: That's TikTok. Yeah, there's no other reason. Yeah, people just
Speaker 5: be like soaking throwing it out there. You didn't learn
Speaker 5: it from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I had a show the other day and
Speaker 1: there was a couple in the audience, but there was
Speaker 1: a person sitting between them, and I was like, why
Speaker 1: aren't y'all not sitting next to each other? And the
Speaker 1: guy was like, we're Mormon. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: is the friend in the middle of the one that
Speaker 1: shakes the bed? Everybody laughed, and the people who didn't laugh,
Speaker 1: I said, oh, y'all not on sick took.
Speaker 2: I don't know about the Mormon.
Speaker 5: But then, okay, let's talk a little about so TikTok
Speaker 5: was that was my original number one that was coming here.
Speaker 2: That was your mess is mess.
Speaker 5: It had a stronghold on me. It was gripping my
Speaker 5: brain cells.
Speaker 2: So why is it mess? What's on it or what
Speaker 2: it's done to you?
Speaker 5: I think what it's done to the country, what it's
Speaker 5: done to entertainment, to the idea of the entertainment industry,
Speaker 5: and yeah, like what it does to our attend like
Speaker 5: to art, Like we don't understand that this value time
Speaker 5: we spend on there is the time that like we
Speaker 5: need to be using for powder revolution.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, but that's what they're but they're doing.
Speaker 3: But they believe that they're doing the revolution on the
Speaker 3: TikTok and.
Speaker 4: You can't and you can't do it like.
Speaker 2: They say they're doing the work here. You like, you can't.
Speaker 2: You can only free Palestine while you're on the t
Speaker 2: t feting.
Speaker 5: Into you're feeling into the oppressor as you do. It's
Speaker 5: like it's hard. Obviously there's no like ethical consumption, but
Speaker 5: like you can literally get your news, organization, entertainment elsewhere,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. This isn't like the one
Speaker 5: grocery store in the hood. This is what you're doing
Speaker 5: with your time. And really it was just like having
Speaker 5: it be taken away and then giving back as a
Speaker 5: gift from the pident. Oh, I will never be grateful.
Speaker 5: I will like thank you, Like this can't be a
Speaker 5: gift giving it back.
Speaker 2: The propaganda of it all.
Speaker 1: It was like, we're going to work with President Trump
Speaker 1: to be back soon hopefully.
Speaker 2: And then it went away for like ten minutes minutes
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: And then they got back and they were like rejoicing
Speaker 1: President Trump and.
Speaker 2: It was like he hasn't even become president.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they were like, you know what, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get on red Note, We're gonna learn Mandarin. And I
Speaker 1: was like, you can't read.
Speaker 5: You don't want manifest I was like, was like, I
Speaker 5: did not know. It was so fast on Commonist. It
Speaker 5: was like that was a jump. It was sound right
Speaker 5: over Socialism. They're like, go for it. This is crazy.
Speaker 1: It stressed me out for shoot, at the moment, I
Speaker 1: was like, because I didn't want people to think like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want TikTok because I don't want people get money,
Speaker 1: because obviously people are using it for marketing and getting
Speaker 1: their audience, and I love that they're going. But at
Speaker 1: the moment that I was like, it's almost gonna it's
Speaker 1: gonna be gone.
Speaker 2: Fuck, maybe we'll get back to like how it used
Speaker 2: to be, like.
Speaker 3: Being you know, connected and not so focused on being
Speaker 3: perceived and putting ourselves in this marketing bubble.
Speaker 2: That's what I was excited. I was like, Okay, maybe we'll.
Speaker 3: Just start existing that That's what I was excited for.
Speaker 5: Yeah, serve a double edged sword because the access and
Speaker 5: reach of it is so great. Obviously, like anyone anywhere
Speaker 5: can post a video and it could in minutes be
Speaker 5: seen by millions of people. But I think just as
Speaker 5: thinking people, and I'm only talking to thinking people now.
Speaker 5: If you're making now if you're if you're a contrarian,
Speaker 5: if you are, it's not a rd ass if you're
Speaker 5: a butt, but but if you're a Devil's advocate, like.
Speaker 4: Please jez the room, Yeah it acrs.
Speaker 5: They're thinking person, just like ask yourself, like if something
Speaker 5: is easily given, how easy is it to take away?
Speaker 5: And so we actually saw that in those fourteen hours.
Speaker 5: It's like all these people's livelihood, the people were depending
Speaker 5: on that they got from this very relative, you know,
Speaker 5: accessible medium was then able to be taken away and
Speaker 5: all the benefits.
Speaker 1: And they did it early they were like, on the nineteenth,
Speaker 1: it is going to go. And then on the eighteenth
Speaker 1: and Tampion people were like.
Speaker 2: What it's gone, It's like, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Doct They said, we're trying to get out of here early.
Speaker 1: Let's just unplug it, lug it now so I can
Speaker 1: go home to my wife.
Speaker 5: That's going. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I haven't posted on i G at all year.
Speaker 2: It's hard all year.
Speaker 4: I know, I'm really trying to upstate.
Speaker 1: Why Sydney on her birthday?
Speaker 5: Well, when I deleted TikTok, I did read seven books
Speaker 5: in two weeks.
Speaker 2: Shut up? Yeah, wait, seven real books.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's various sizes.
Speaker 2: But you were you're a reader before that, so don't
Speaker 2: even do that.
Speaker 5: But why couldn't I hold the sentence when I'm going
Speaker 5: four hours of talk? Why?
Speaker 2: Why can't I? Why can I?
Speaker 5: Why? Through them holding the bone? I dropped the phone
Speaker 5: from here to my.
Speaker 3: Face, glasses on my nose, on everything right on the
Speaker 3: Jackson five.
Speaker 2: It's true, it's happened to all of us.
Speaker 5: And watching what I can't tell you? I can't tell you?
Speaker 5: Why then something I can't tell you?
Speaker 2: Okay? That was the test being tested by the tt T.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I just really wanted to reclaim, honestly, my focus.
Speaker 5: I wanted to reclaim like my own internal voice, and
Speaker 5: I wanted to reclaim just like how I think about
Speaker 5: my art being positioned in the world.
Speaker 1: But you're a genius though, like you're like you're not
Speaker 1: like an average person.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: First of all, thank you, wow, Okay, whoa. And second
Speaker 5: of all, I think that we all are more engaged
Speaker 5: in alert than we give ourselves credit for. And that's
Speaker 5: what TikTok does. It allows us to undermine our intelligence.
Speaker 5: That's what Fox News does, That's what CNN does, That's
Speaker 5: what the right conservative edge is trying to do. They're
Speaker 5: trying to take people to their lowest common denominator, not
Speaker 5: to the part of themselves. It says, oh, wait, we
Speaker 5: actually can create enough renewable energy in six months to
Speaker 5: sustain us and we never have to worry about ol again.
Speaker 5: Oh if we just simply have like the emotional conversation
Speaker 5: about the blight of slavery on our peoples and we
Speaker 5: learn how to rehabilitate the white psyche after hundreds of
Speaker 5: years of faux idea of privilege, and then.
Speaker 4: Well you know what I mean, introduced the coexistence.
Speaker 2: Have you still off TikTok?
Speaker 1: He can't, he can't redownload it, he's not on I
Speaker 1: don't know, but you can use it on the laptop.
Speaker 4: Wait, is this true? Way I can't get back on it.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, if you deleted it, delet didn't get back
Speaker 1: well for me, thank you.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, and listen to my practice and no I did.
Speaker 3: I mean I feel what you're saying, because that's why
Speaker 3: I like, I've been struggling. I was like an online
Speaker 3: person and I've been struggling because I was like, yo.
Speaker 2: I'm so caught up.
Speaker 1: I'm so caught up with like how I want to
Speaker 1: put stuff out?
Speaker 2: How nomn how side so much? How it was it
Speaker 2: was not for fun.
Speaker 5: These things used to be fund out purely fun, and
Speaker 5: they weren't coming for the government. I had downloaded the
Speaker 5: back you know, if it was a load of you know,
Speaker 5: little little something something.
Speaker 4: But no, it's too much.
Speaker 5: We were okay, So I before not posting everyone on Instagram,
Speaker 5: I actually unarchived all of my posts. Yeah, right before
Speaker 5: the end of twenty twenty four, so December, I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: it's like y'all on archive and I.
Speaker 2: Went, you know, I came for you when you archived exactly.
Speaker 2: It was like, I was like, what's it's a different time.
Speaker 4: It's a different time.
Speaker 5: It was it was taking that transition from personal to
Speaker 5: purely professional to you know, completely corporatized. We watched that
Speaker 5: happen in seven years. We watched Instagram, so the fore
Speaker 5: mother to TikTok, the like what we spend hours on.
Speaker 4: We watched it, watched it be so fun.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, people used to post grainy photos of food
Speaker 1: and put a weird filter on.
Speaker 4: But I was on our memes.
Speaker 2: The themes were like.
Speaker 5: I'm taking a photo of your hat right now, and
Speaker 5: been like ooring is my favorite color, and thirteen likes
Speaker 5: to skip down the streets thirteen likes and all to
Speaker 5: look dot on the train and like is and that's
Speaker 5: that's it, you know what I mean. That's like a
Speaker 5: photo cataloging thing, and now it's just so far from that.
Speaker 4: But it used to be so fun.
Speaker 5: And I understand, like our are that we want to connect,
Speaker 5: like that's the most human thing ever. And I understand
Speaker 5: that the phone makes it seem like the mirage literal
Speaker 5: glass and light. It makes it seem like we're connected
Speaker 5: with each other, but nothing is that substantial social media.
Speaker 2: Social media. They're like, yeah, I have one hundred thousand friends,
Speaker 2: and it's like.
Speaker 3: Do you know because when it was my actual birthday,
Speaker 3: the niggas didn't talk.
Speaker 2: I have a sister.
Speaker 5: I have it.
Speaker 2: I legit have a sister.
Speaker 3: That's why I have no my brother didn't call, and
Speaker 3: I talked to my brother more, which is I.
Speaker 2: Was like, this is something's not adding up AnyWho?
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, I think that, Like, uh, I actually
Speaker 3: want to take it all the way back to my space.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, I's coding.
Speaker 4: We didn't even know.
Speaker 2: I want the dollar, the dollar sign to rotate the.
Speaker 5: Top eight, kind of like American's model Core. Yeah, it's
Speaker 5: choosing now. Can you imagine it's choosing eight people? And
Speaker 5: I will up there. I don't want to imagine image.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to have
Speaker 2: to think about it.
Speaker 5: But actually, you know what I want that what he
Speaker 5: I am? What at a computer? Chat with you at
Speaker 5: a computer?
Speaker 1: I want to put an away message up and people
Speaker 1: be like, gir, what you're doing over there?
Speaker 5: Exactly exactly what would your way message be?
Speaker 4: Right now?
Speaker 2: They had the away message now on Instagram.
Speaker 4: I don't like it, not I need more.
Speaker 2: My way message right now would be in the stew
Speaker 2: with my boot.
Speaker 5: It's actually really good, but it's like head, it's to
Speaker 5: the stew so we would tell them it was such
Speaker 5: a gorgeous communication. You could be doing something talk and
Speaker 5: talking to six people at once, long sentences.
Speaker 2: But that's what texting is right now, like.
Speaker 5: Much with the device, because why are you getting your
Speaker 5: communication from me from the same place that you get
Speaker 5: your videos?
Speaker 2: And you and you want the separation in your email
Speaker 2: and your email because you just.
Speaker 4: Parasympathetically.
Speaker 5: I believe that we feel the energy of like all
Speaker 5: the power that our device holds, even if we don't confront.
Speaker 4: It all the time.
Speaker 2: Okay, So now that you don't have any social media on.
Speaker 1: Your phone on Instagram, I scrolled, Oh you're just not
Speaker 1: posting it, no.
Speaker 5: Posts, and I'm scrolling less because of this diet.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I forgot what my question was because it
Speaker 1: turned out I was wrong.
Speaker 4: What was it?
Speaker 2: Oh, you were going to say, Oh, how how are
Speaker 2: you spending your time?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: How do you?
Speaker 1: I mean you said you read seven books in two weeks.
Speaker 1: Need to see the episod of these books. Did they
Speaker 1: look like the gum packet.
Speaker 3: That's fine, we'll post we'll post the books that you read.
Speaker 3: We'll put it on the Yeah, but you're still post
Speaker 3: it on the fence.
Speaker 5: No, I don't even like that no more the fence
Speaker 5: to ry. Everybody quiet wants to.
Speaker 2: Be popping, really giving, like, oh, now I know.
Speaker 4: You because you want to show the front.
Speaker 2: They don't want to. It's crazy because you well, because
Speaker 2: it's the leaks.
Speaker 1: You can't trust people. People are inside of it now
Speaker 1: and it's like, yo, you can't just keep it, like
Speaker 1: even if you do know, don't let howther people know that?
Speaker 2: You know? Like, why are you doing that?
Speaker 3: That sucks up the whole reason why we're doing fincedown,
Speaker 3: that's the whole point.
Speaker 2: How do we feel about close friends closes?
Speaker 5: I love being on it. There's a few green bubbles
Speaker 5: that I love and I'm not even close with these people.
Speaker 1: But oh every time somebody asks me to their close
Speaker 1: friends still, now I'd be like.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, there are two closes, and I'm just like
Speaker 5: just happy to see these people go, you know, like
Speaker 5: like some like some twenties, they're still in their twenties
Speaker 5: and they're like having fun. I'm like, wait, this is
Speaker 5: what this is what I would be doing if I
Speaker 5: was Keatsy, Like I'm in my I'm in my transition.
Speaker 4: I'm not dad, but I'm like giving young Dad.
Speaker 2: You're giving young Dad.
Speaker 5: I think my voice like, I'm like, hey, you still
Speaker 5: sound like that.
Speaker 4: Okay, dam's fucked up.
Speaker 2: No, I think it's you're not on d T.
Speaker 3: You got such a serious you know it goes with
Speaker 3: the button now, but it's like.
Speaker 5: Chair she was whispering, Well yeah, but you probably lean
Speaker 5: in just a little bit and just say something right.
Speaker 2: That the thing.
Speaker 1: But that's also about being celebrity though I think, you know,
Speaker 1: what are you doing?
Speaker 2: I think that like, you know, that's but that's celebrity.
Speaker 3: That's the difference between TikTok is, Like people want to
Speaker 3: be famous, but they don't need to be a celebrity.
Speaker 3: They're like, I'm going to be in this bonnet. I
Speaker 3: didn't wash my face. I'm saying what I want.
Speaker 2: I went by.
Speaker 4: TikTok is a mess. TikTok loves when you're down.
Speaker 2: When you're down bad, when you're spiraling.
Speaker 4: You have a bond.
Speaker 5: There's something wrong with black culture. From the hood Baltimore City.
Speaker 5: But they want that. They definitely will take that over
Speaker 5: glam any day.
Speaker 2: They want to make up smeared, they want mess that.
Speaker 5: They want that that or fresh Valentino every day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like like what what lane are you in?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: TikTok.
Speaker 1: They also love the like well put together, like good life,
Speaker 1: hair is always done, get ready with me.
Speaker 2: They also love.
Speaker 5: That consumer culture when someone's like my day and they
Speaker 5: like opened a drawer of like things packages and they
Speaker 5: put that on top of another product like they do.
Speaker 1: And then they have the TikTok shop like my links
Speaker 1: and it's like okay, okay, it's like these.
Speaker 2: Glasses from TikTok shop. No I actually got from. No
Speaker 2: I got this from.
Speaker 1: I went to Keangle store and they were yeah Jackson.
Speaker 2: No, I think they both they both yeah, I would say,
Speaker 2: but whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think like the selling everything everybody's selling
Speaker 3: ship on there.
Speaker 5: Now. He's supposed to be good word and he's supposed
Speaker 5: to be like, I'm really good at this thing.
Speaker 4: It's not like I do this one thing only and
Speaker 4: you will you know what I mean. It's like it.
Speaker 5: There was a moment I was dancing around, like what
Speaker 5: My participation on that website was like as a person
Speaker 5: who like, as a person do you mean? And I
Speaker 5: was just like, ultimately, I like an anti niche, like
Speaker 5: a comedian who say, like, that's like, but both are niches.
Speaker 5: It's two and one, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 5: like I'm an actor who's black, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So it's like I'm not just like wipeway of the mind.
Speaker 5: Like it's like so it's it's just it just requires
Speaker 5: such single mindedness.
Speaker 1: My tactic for TikTok now is just throwing everything at
Speaker 1: the wall and whatever.
Speaker 2: Stick sticks.
Speaker 4: You're amazing, You're like, I'm just saying comedian to the bone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just like yeah. But like the stuff is
Speaker 2: does really well.
Speaker 1: And then a lot of the stuff recently is just
Speaker 1: like okay, dude, it's nobody on TikTok I think it's
Speaker 1: algorithmic racism. Algorithmic racism, thank you.
Speaker 5: But and so that's like a little bit of like
Speaker 5: the invisible insipid stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If I was blond and skinny and had blue eyes
Speaker 1: and my dad was like a judge or something, I
Speaker 1: would be in a poppy commercial.
Speaker 4: Right now. I think you're gonna be a poppy commercial.
Speaker 5: Now, TikTok wants you to think that you need all
Speaker 5: those things a person. That means it's working. This is
Speaker 5: not funny, y'all, but it is.
Speaker 1: They're getting there fighting the tiktoctors to the Grammys. They
Speaker 1: inviting them to the They're in Super Bowl ads, like.
Speaker 2: At the mec Gala. They at the met Gala, Like
Speaker 2: what table? Who sponsored a table for you? But they're there.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're entertainers. They deserve it.
Speaker 3: I've sat and watched it, you know, a seventeen part
Speaker 3: thing on like you know, my brother slept with my
Speaker 3: sister and now they got a baby together, and you.
Speaker 2: Know, I'm going to the I'm going to the birthday
Speaker 2: of the baby. Like what do the baby look like?
Speaker 2: Show me a phone with the baby now.
Speaker 3: But like I watched them, like okay, like this is
Speaker 3: it'll be more compelling.
Speaker 1: This some of the stuff that I see on TV.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you'll crazy. Remember Marisa Tisasa. She was
Speaker 1: like a forty seven part series. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what the final count was, but everybody like all over the.
Speaker 5: World was Yeah, it was episodic.
Speaker 3: But you think that like you're special, Like there was
Speaker 3: a moment where you're like, oh, you're special and like
Speaker 3: nobody else had this has happened to and there was
Speaker 3: a moment where everything that's out there is like there's
Speaker 3: only a few of it. Now, It's like I don't
Speaker 3: feel that way, Like I think that I'm funny. I
Speaker 3: know there's nobody's like me. The things that happened to
Speaker 3: me happened to me, and then there's me. But then
Speaker 3: I get on TikTok and I'm like, girl, there's millions
Speaker 3: of people crazy. Shit is I'm not comparing. I'm just
Speaker 3: this is a fact.
Speaker 5: But you aren't comparing by virtue, by virtue looking at
Speaker 5: other people relationship to your art.
Speaker 4: No, it's just like why do your TikTok? Was my
Speaker 4: life changed? Like what do I do? It's like I
Speaker 4: literally just.
Speaker 5: Like don't think about other people who like, you know,
Speaker 5: work all day to make thirty second clips when I write,
Speaker 5: you know, plays.
Speaker 2: I create art.
Speaker 4: I don't think about the art, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like and just yeah, I just really understand that, Like
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, Like I'm on the Mess podcast. It's
Speaker 5: like this is plenty of attention. You know what I
Speaker 5: mean like I get to be a part of like
Speaker 5: abb Elementary, Like that's plenty of attention.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: It's like why why if this thing that I'm using
Speaker 5: for fun makes me feel like I'm not doing something enough?
Speaker 5: And that's for everyone. That's for like, like if you
Speaker 5: are an artist at a record label, they're like, get
Speaker 5: on TikTok and so you have a record deal and
Speaker 5: you make me read music and play the piano and
Speaker 5: they're telling you to.
Speaker 2: Like get but about it.
Speaker 3: Okay, you don't sound like Monique, but your Monique in
Speaker 3: a blazer right now?
Speaker 4: Every time, you know, I'm always on her side.
Speaker 2: Yeah side, Yeah, I'm like yeah.
Speaker 5: That was probably like one where I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you know, Shannon got one. But like generally, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm very much a line with my bottom my stuff.
Speaker 2: I love that. Thank you for sharing, Larry.
Speaker 3: What do you do for fun? Like that has nothing
Speaker 3: to do with comedy theater?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Work, work, reading? What else? What else are we doing?
Speaker 2: Is the reading? The fun?
Speaker 5: The reading is really fun. And I do go to
Speaker 5: the library a lot.
Speaker 2: They know you your part is platinum. You're a platinum library.
Speaker 5: Do you know your public library that line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why podcast that line? I want to leaning in
Speaker 2: for library.
Speaker 1: To Yes, we don't we need the library, give it
Speaker 1: to us what is happening there because we will. Famously,
Speaker 1: Carrie Bradshaw was trying to get married in that library
Speaker 1: and she did get stood up.
Speaker 2: In that life, it did not happen. So one stuff
Speaker 2: does happen.
Speaker 5: A yeah, I know, I know go to the patients
Speaker 5: afforded to when I go to a different one. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I know there's a guy who, like it was definitely
Speaker 5: a skeezer who sits at this one desk every time.
Speaker 5: And if like a girl sits across from like a
Speaker 5: young like student girl, he will watch like a weird
Speaker 5: sort of SMR video of their type. So if she's Asian,
Speaker 5: it'll be an Asian girl like combing her hair. It
Speaker 5: feels and I don't like it.
Speaker 2: Are you going to step in or not? No, Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: Really know if it is, but you hear what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I do. But that's the just between me and you
Speaker 2: is like.
Speaker 3: I need to know if I'm going to the library
Speaker 3: all the time, I'm most likely going to get involved
Speaker 3: that I know.
Speaker 2: I know, I see her a lot. What's going on
Speaker 2: is that her?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's so old and scary, honestly, Like, I don't
Speaker 5: think that you would be old and gary.
Speaker 2: I'm those together?
Speaker 4: I know, Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: You can push him over, you can blow on you fall.
Speaker 5: I guess I haven't really said anything because libry is
Speaker 5: kind of a silent place, like you don't really talk anyway.
Speaker 2: Well I don't.
Speaker 3: That's the thing, Like, now I don't know what we
Speaker 3: should be doing because people are so used to putting
Speaker 3: their phone up or like telling a story about something
Speaker 3: that happened that it's like why you didn't call the
Speaker 3: cops or why you didn't get involved? So now we
Speaker 3: don't know what.
Speaker 4: But what is the line?
Speaker 5: What is the line of the vigilante in twenty twenty
Speaker 5: five is if it's phone enough, you just recorded and
Speaker 5: you know that's it, You got it.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's certain situations you can't do anything except
Speaker 1: record or stand and bear witness. I saw a video
Speaker 1: the other day a shark jumped into a boat with
Speaker 1: all of these white.
Speaker 2: Dudes and it was like flanling around.
Speaker 1: It had all these little razor sharp teeth and they're
Speaker 1: all like who and like shooting it and laughing, and
Speaker 1: people were like why would they just let it suffocate
Speaker 1: on the boat, And everyone in the comments was like,
Speaker 1: have you ever tried to pick up a shark?
Speaker 2: How are you supposed to get in there? And it's
Speaker 2: flailing and flash Like.
Speaker 1: Comment section is mass, but the comments sometimes is the
Speaker 1: best part of the medium, because.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was I remember there was like a shark
Speaker 3: following a seal. The seal jumped on the boat and
Speaker 3: the seal was like and but then people were trying
Speaker 3: to push the seal.
Speaker 2: It's like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Save
Speaker 2: this seal?
Speaker 1: And they were like, well, we don't want this seal
Speaker 1: on this boat. Also, the shark is coming at it
Speaker 1: because the seals here what it wants. But also the
Speaker 1: seal didn't put in for the boat. It's true, and
Speaker 1: that is real Housewives bright there.
Speaker 4: Com like like.
Speaker 5: After the Super Bowl performance, it's like you would never
Speaker 5: everyone was sitting in the stadium watch having opinions. No
Speaker 5: one could walk up to Kendrick and tell him, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, whatever opinion.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter, it's it's all not comment.
Speaker 5: Is now in a Wall Street Journal article and that
Speaker 5: reading someone's nonsense yep. And because people say it now
Speaker 5: it's fact, and it's like people because we'll say anything anonymously. Oh.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing is when you talk to somebody and
Speaker 1: you're like, I read this article that said and it's like, no,
Speaker 1: you watched a TikTok.
Speaker 2: TikTok is a new reading if you didn't. So I
Speaker 2: read this article the other day. I don't remember where
Speaker 2: it was. It was on TikTok.
Speaker 5: My my like verification of my new sources has also
Speaker 5: got up. I will say, like, I just have to
Speaker 5: go to trusted new sources.
Speaker 2: Where what's the truth piece?
Speaker 5: You know? I mean, we're all around, We're all around.
Speaker 5: We hear Wall Street Journal. I already mentioned them.
Speaker 3: Plug is some of the fact that it well, AP
Speaker 3: is a mess because they had these girls interviewing people
Speaker 3: and they were interviewing baby Pace, the Kenneth babyface Yes,
Speaker 3: and they pushed him to decide to have chuck up.
Speaker 2: So it was like, AP, do I trust you now?
Speaker 5: He said, he said, you go do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you go do that, And that's how you
Speaker 1: have to move. That's how we have to move in
Speaker 1: twenty two five, respect.
Speaker 5: Ball, it's the easiest thing to do. It's like that's
Speaker 5: the state of like the media. It's like that's They're
Speaker 5: just like.
Speaker 4: Wow, why like why can't you focus?
Speaker 5: Why why do you with a microphone in your hand
Speaker 5: talking to a multi Grammy, a war winning artist at
Speaker 5: the Grammy's.
Speaker 2: Legend legend, legend legend, Why can't you.
Speaker 5: Sustain a thought more than fourteen motherfucking her fy jerky
Speaker 5: seconds to get to the end of the sentence and.
Speaker 1: Say, because TikTok videos are fifteen seconds, thirty seconds, sixty seconds,
Speaker 1: ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Yes, So they're like, why would I our brain? Those
Speaker 2: girls were like twenty our.
Speaker 5: Brains, our brains, You got your work. You're in the
Speaker 5: middle of something.
Speaker 2: So how do we strengthen our brains? I gotta do sudokus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do a lot of wordles fromles.
Speaker 4: Word right now. You know I'm playing chest out too.
Speaker 4: See I'm not a word person ever, But this.
Speaker 2: Is you're not boring because I had to.
Speaker 5: Come up out of the mess, you know, not well,
Speaker 5: just like you know.
Speaker 2: We sit and mess here. This is mess.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I just have to like do
Speaker 4: like be home.
Speaker 5: I just have to like you know, save my energy
Speaker 5: and just like grow.
Speaker 4: Up and focus.
Speaker 2: Grow up and focus. Is that what you're saying right now?
Speaker 5: In five? A child and distract up and focus my trauma.
Speaker 2: That's not like a four.
Speaker 5: Now that's my trauma response. I'm like, oh, like.
Speaker 2: I feel you on that.
Speaker 3: I feel that I'm in a cross road right now
Speaker 3: because it's like, damn, I want to be you know,
Speaker 3: giddy and fun and.
Speaker 2: Just like that that that.
Speaker 3: But now it's like because of this birthday, I'm like, hmmm,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We gotta make a ship, we gotta pivot.
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm usually relieving tension, like like the
Speaker 5: mess is I call my mess, Like having fun would
Speaker 5: usually respond.
Speaker 4: To me like relieving tension.
Speaker 5: Yeah, now there's so much retention, but I'm always having fun.
Speaker 4: I have a fun line.
Speaker 2: Yeah you are my friends New York.
Speaker 4: It's fun.
Speaker 5: And I have to be like okay, okay, great, I've
Speaker 5: like I've seen it. I was like like, I know
Speaker 5: what a big room looks like. I know what a
Speaker 5: small room looks like. I know a room face people
Speaker 5: look like. I know a room with everybody looks like.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, I can compare it, you know,
Speaker 5: I can just keep going.
Speaker 4: But just go home.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just go home, just like instead instead of trying
Speaker 5: to escape into like someone's perfect organization or they're perfect
Speaker 5: like politic or they're amazing singing voice. This is a TikTok,
Speaker 5: by the way, instead of like experiencing all of that
Speaker 5: in this way that it's just not enough investment for me.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I just like I want to mature. Our
Speaker 5: country needs to mature. I feel like I'm just like
Speaker 5: not because shit ain't funny.
Speaker 1: I'm like, but when you think about it, our country
Speaker 1: is really not that old. Yeah, compared to you know,
Speaker 1: some of these other countries that's been around for three
Speaker 1: thousand and five thousand years old.
Speaker 3: You know, we're so unseerious though, Like we're so un
Speaker 3: like you know, when when Donald Trump was like they're
Speaker 3: eating the cast, they made a remix.
Speaker 2: Eating we should be Laughing.
Speaker 4: Podcast, I'm like, you're doing.
Speaker 5: You said something insanely and like the next like like
Speaker 5: the subterranean and now it's a fun thing and it's
Speaker 5: literally it's like the spirit of black Twitter co opted
Speaker 5: by white media, white legacy media, and now we're left
Speaker 5: with the deterioration of.
Speaker 4: A government black people.
Speaker 5: We have the privilege to make shit funny that ain't
Speaker 5: been funny because we're talking about no reparations from chattel
Speaker 5: slavery and we have to that's all right now now, Now,
Speaker 5: Becky from Ohio and Bruce from something should be serious
Speaker 5: to you because someone was serious to your grandfather who
Speaker 5: came over here by choice from wherever. You know, like
Speaker 5: dot was important on the santam Aia, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. So it's like, how do we balance ourselves
Speaker 5: so no one can have like fun petty mess again?
Speaker 1: I think remove everything from TikTok except the wrapping chift.
Speaker 1: This guy that cooks and he wraps when he cooks,
Speaker 1: he made a spicy RIGATONI the other day that I
Speaker 1: was like.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of the song that he used,
Speaker 2: but it was I don't know. I literally watched it
Speaker 2: last night.
Speaker 5: Oh so you didn't hold on to it from last night.
Speaker 5: About TikTok brain.
Speaker 2: It sounds like we'ed brain. Sounds like we'd brain yourself.
Speaker 5: It's harty And if I didn't make it how you
Speaker 5: make it, then I'm sorry. The chicken breads and marinated
Speaker 5: and some yoga garlic pangs and ginger pas.
Speaker 4: I got some thriller and spices.
Speaker 2: That's not the one that I watched by This.
Speaker 4: Is what we don't have overall deals anymore.
Speaker 2: It is definitely not modo. All right, well let's read
Speaker 2: some mess. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, let's read some
Speaker 2: mess and Larry, you could tell us how you feel
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is good like a little prompt.
Speaker 5: Yes, we love a prompt.
Speaker 2: This is a different segment, and then we'll get everybody
Speaker 2: out it.
Speaker 1: Look the finish line, well, I mean I'm literally looking
Speaker 1: at the clock.
Speaker 5: Clock.
Speaker 2: It's over there. I put it over to here. Are
Speaker 2: you ready? It's a long one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this might make me sound like an ass is
Speaker 1: the title. Hey, Marie and Sydney. So here's my mess.
Speaker 1: I have a partner that's messy, an amazing partner. He
Speaker 1: makes me feel loved, wanted, care for best relationship i've had, So.
Speaker 2: What's the wrong.
Speaker 1: However, before meeting him, I was having sex with a
Speaker 1: different man for about a year.
Speaker 2: This man is good at sex, great at sex.
Speaker 4: I knew what it was going to be.
Speaker 2: Best sex. Honestly, make sure I come every time.
Speaker 1: She's dragging it. She's fucking dragging it. Girls, get out
Speaker 1: of multiple rounds, long used toys.
Speaker 2: Does it all? Girl? You don't have a job. Why
Speaker 2: do you need you need all that?
Speaker 5: Just because you haven't seen a Cydney doesn't mean it's
Speaker 5: not possible you haven't.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is not what we was doing in Brazil.
Speaker 1: I stopped having sex with this man after hearing his thoughts,
Speaker 1: like if he had just shut up and fucked, I
Speaker 1: would have been none the wiser. I had a man
Speaker 1: like that once. This man is a misogynistic ass. What
Speaker 1: really ended it is when he gave me an STI ladies,
Speaker 1: no matter what.
Speaker 2: Males say, make them wear a condom or leave.
Speaker 1: I also decided I wanted a boyfriend, so I told
Speaker 1: him our sessions were over and I went on to
Speaker 1: find my partner. We remained somewhat friends following ig talk
Speaker 1: about our travels and anime, nothing else.
Speaker 4: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: A year into the relationship, the sex guy texted me
Speaker 1: asking could I come over for a good time. No,
Speaker 1: I don't even reply, just blocked. I thought it was disrespectful.
Speaker 1: I don't post my partner, but he shouldn't know if
Speaker 1: I have a man. But I'd be lying because I
Speaker 1: think they still stuff anime. But I'd be lying if
Speaker 1: I said I didn't think about the sex, like nothing
Speaker 1: else about him is good but that and I would
Speaker 1: never cheat. I don't want to break up to be
Speaker 1: free to have sex with him. I know the grass
Speaker 1: ain't greener on the other side, I just want to
Speaker 1: stop thinking about him and his sex.
Speaker 2: Like, how do I do this? Miss thoughts larry me first?
Speaker 2: I mean, we could all talk about it.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's a conundrum.
Speaker 5: It's a conundrum because it's something specific that she wants.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I dated a guy that was also
Speaker 1: that The sex was great, but I also did not
Speaker 1: listen like.
Speaker 2: Listening to him talk.
Speaker 1: He would quote Kevin Samuels and stuff to me, and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, oh, this dude is an idiot girl.
Speaker 2: And he had to.
Speaker 4: Go How long did it last?
Speaker 1: Mmm?
Speaker 2: How long did I bang him for? On and off?
Speaker 1: For like maybe like a year's time, maybe not even
Speaker 1: maybe not even a full year.
Speaker 2: Just Ninja Turtle beat me in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but that was like I knew him for
Speaker 1: like over a year, but we actually hooked up for
Speaker 1: I don't know, like, oh no, no, it was not And.
Speaker 4: What made you stop seeing him?
Speaker 2: I didn't like him stupid he would.
Speaker 1: Talk and I'd be like, oh my god, even.
Speaker 2: The text messages off and shuch about and.
Speaker 4: How did you deal with the fallout from not having
Speaker 4: that dick? Oh?
Speaker 2: I was fine.
Speaker 1: I had a backup and he wasn't the best. Oh yeah, yeah, comparable, great,
Speaker 1: but not excellent. No, no, no, it was it was
Speaker 1: great the person after or the person that replaced him with.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't think she can go back to the
Speaker 5: other guy for sex.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I think I think maybe cut communication clean. But she
Speaker 2: says she do like them.
Speaker 3: But we gotta we gotta detach ourselves from from the
Speaker 3: importance of sex.
Speaker 2: I think, I like, hmm, it has helped me. I like,
Speaker 2: I don't. I like it.
Speaker 3: It's good. I have a good time, but it's not
Speaker 3: a factor for me. I like, I could be with
Speaker 3: somebody and not have sex all the time, and I'll
Speaker 3: be Okay.
Speaker 2: I want to be with somebody and not have good sex. No, no,
Speaker 2: I couldn't do that.
Speaker 3: But it's just because I've gone long periods without it
Speaker 3: and then got back into it and then got out.
Speaker 3: I was like, it's fine, it's cool, Like I enjoy it,
Speaker 3: but it's I'm not. It's not gonna make me do
Speaker 3: any more of these decisions. Like before last like last year,
Speaker 3: what I was doing, I was like just not even
Speaker 3: I don't even care about sex like this.
Speaker 2: Why am I fucking in New Jersey right now? It's
Speaker 2: just stupid. That is crazy.
Speaker 5: Maybe this person can invite the guy with good dick
Speaker 5: into the relationships. Then the other guy can watch how
Speaker 5: the good guy and that has been an amazing episode
Speaker 5: of mess because what the fuck?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, because he says that I have a partner,
Speaker 1: an amazing partner.
Speaker 2: He makes me feel loved, wanted, cared for. She keep
Speaker 2: thinking about that exactly, so then bringing the dick in? No,
Speaker 2: maybe bring the toys. Maybe.
Speaker 4: Sometimes good advice is hearing bad advice.
Speaker 1: And you know what, miss miss.
Speaker 5: She should I think she should really shake it up.
Speaker 5: I think she should be messy. Invite the guy and
Speaker 5: the other guy gets a tutorial. Be okay, tell first
Speaker 5: guy it's more bad. Tell first guy, hey, you gotta
Speaker 5: go study up? Or is it about the equipment? Is
Speaker 5: he is it?
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's maybe, but.
Speaker 5: She didn't mention that. She didn't say, like any that's
Speaker 5: the most perfect.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I just said great at sex, best sex.
Speaker 1: Honestly, he said first, she said good at sex, great
Speaker 1: at sex, best sex. Okay, make sure I come every time.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the other one's not making you come.
Speaker 4: Digmatized me, She's s digmatized.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the other one has her heart, but the other
Speaker 3: one has her coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, sometimes totally.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I feel like it's hard to give advice because gay
Speaker 5: men logic is so different.
Speaker 4: I don't have it, but it's like what I have
Speaker 4: to like live under.
Speaker 2: What is game man logic?
Speaker 5: Just see, there will always be more they'll like, There'll
Speaker 5: always be more dick, just like go open with your
Speaker 5: partner like the skies. If they don't like it, move on,
Speaker 5: you know, just there will always be more dick around
Speaker 5: the corner.
Speaker 2: There will always be on the shelf.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But my thing is this, like I'm sure the
Speaker 1: sex is great, but you might.
Speaker 2: Be remembering it better than what it.
Speaker 1: Is because that happened to me before, like best sex,
Speaker 1: great sex, And then I spin the block and I'm like,
Speaker 1: well I actually don't like this person, and now.
Speaker 4: Nostalgic sex.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes it's a.
Speaker 2: Quas Yeah, that's why I would go back that memory
Speaker 2: foam sex.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're eating the eggs and suddenly you're like, I'm
Speaker 5: eating the eggs.
Speaker 2: Do I even like?
Speaker 1: Ru?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So you're in New Jersey.
Speaker 2: May all of these men that I've forgotten about rest
Speaker 2: in peace?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, maybe this was incredible. I really had a
Speaker 1: good time. Yeah, this was cute.
Speaker 2: Can you tell people where they can find you even
Speaker 2: though you're hiding?
Speaker 5: Yes, Hey, everyone, I still have live accounts at Larry
Speaker 5: Owens Live.
Speaker 4: Follow because there may be news and just thank you so.
Speaker 5: Much for having me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not you learned the voice.
Speaker 5: Valentine's Day, every line, My family to yours. It's been
Speaker 5: so wonderful to be here, my loving heart to yours.
Speaker 5: Wishing all of you New Yorkers. Angelina's out there, Chicago
Speaker 5: and anyone listening. Yeah, Berlin's you know, there's lots and lots.
Speaker 1: Of Australia's in the hell, lots of Law and Kenya.
Speaker 4: And Kenyon to Toronto, hel On.
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