1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: You're listening to mess Okay, wow we're here. 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: Oh wow, girl, what accent is that? 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 3: I've just had to you know how you have to 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 3: rep yourself up. You know, you will have one of 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 3: those cars where you do like man, you will you 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 3: be like m I had to rep myself up. 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's how we do it. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: you know, I need some coffee, but I'll be okay. 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah damn do I need some coffee? 11 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 4: No, you don't know. 12 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: You're doing great? Hey boo, what's up? 13 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Sydney, I feel like I haven't seen you 14 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: all of twenty twenty five. 15 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 2: Oh loys, going for seven days? Just seven day? 16 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: All that seven days? You was already gone for like 17 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: seven days. Yeah, yeah, like seventy seven days. That's you 18 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: know what, You're right all of twenty twenty five. I 19 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: am a mess exclusive. I'm in a relationship. I have someone, 20 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: and yes, yes I don't. I was like, I'm not 21 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: doing it, but I have someone. 22 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: So now I split time and so I've been split 23 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: time with them me. 24 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean it's just crazy. I don't have 25 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: enough time truly, just like where does the time go? 26 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, I came back from Brazil, went to Brazil 27 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: for the birthday and love that. My mess of the 28 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: week is I did not post about my birthday. That 29 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: was dumb because people did not call me on my 30 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: actual birthday. That was my mess. I was surprised. I said, wait, 31 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: what nobody called own dry? My sister called me five times. 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:35,639 Speaker 2: That's messy. 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, I people didn't call. It was I was 34 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: surprised people didn't call you, and that's a mess. Yeah 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: that was because if you don't publicize your birthday, if 36 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: you don't do if you don't make a big deal, 37 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: then people don't make a big deal. 38 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: You have to make a big deal. That's just what 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: it is. Like you are the leader of how you 40 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: want people to celebrate you. 41 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: So I well remember back in the day, like you 42 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: used to put it on face Book and then everybody 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: would just be on your wall like love me birthday 44 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: and you'd be like, I got this money cabins, they 45 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: love me this year. 46 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: People from Facebook messaged me. 47 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, I got my sister called five times and 48 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: I said, this is insane. She's like, I'm not calling 49 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: for anything, just to your birthday. I'm like, but don't 50 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: act like you don't call for stuff. 51 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: She's like, no, I was calling Greta. 52 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, damn. So my sister called five times. 53 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: At least she knew that it was my birthday. Did 54 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: you not pick up four times? Or did you pick 55 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: pick up time? 56 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 5: No? 57 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: I didn't pick up. 58 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: She just kept calling because my phone was also on 59 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: D and D. That's also a mess. D and D 60 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 3: is a mess, but it's a productive mess because you're like, 61 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: I'm putting up a boundary. I don't I don't want to, 62 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 3: you know, engage right now. 63 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: So your phone was on do not disturb, and you're 64 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: mad that people didn't call you on your birthday. 65 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: But your phone was on do not disturb. 66 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 3: But people, dick, you still can call when you're on 67 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: D and D because my sister called five times. 68 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: Right, So you wouldn't have talked to anybody anyway. I was, 69 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: you know, it depends. 70 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: You know, you're right, But I would have looked and 71 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: I would have called back, but there was there was 72 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 3: no calls to call back. 73 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so you just had unlimited data when you travel? 74 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 5: Really? 75 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no. 76 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: Originally I was like, oh, I'm not I'm trying to 77 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: have my phone off so that I don't get international 78 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: because when I went to Morocco, my phone bill was 79 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: like full hundred some dollars. 80 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: That's when I came back thatause I got paid. 81 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: I got charged twelve dollars a day there ten days, 82 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: plus whatever extra shit I did while it was there. 83 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: You were on the Sydney was making full blown phone 84 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: calls from a pyramid, like, yeah, it was on the 85 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: phone right, so yeah, and not even WhatsApp the regular phone. 86 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: She wasn't using What'sapp in Brazil either. 87 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: No, I wasn't. I wasn't. She was like, go do 88 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: it didn't go through. I was like, girl, why are 89 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: you not calling me on WhatsApp? 90 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 91 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was my girl rich No, it was stupid, 92 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: but yeah it was. I did want a low key birthday, 93 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: but I did make me sad that no one called. 94 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: But I think it was because I was with my girlfriend. 95 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: But I was like, my girlfriend doesn't supplement my friends. 96 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: I still want my friends to call. Well, we all 97 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: taught you in the group chat early in the morning. 98 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: I don't want a text. 99 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 5: I want to call. 100 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: Everyone called me last year. I was like, what you 101 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: were in the States, that's what's different. I went, I 102 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: don't know you were in Puerto Rico last year? What 103 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: did we call you every time? It doesn't matter where 104 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: i'm you guys call me wherever I am anywhere. 105 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: No, that's not true, because so I don't call you 106 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: on your birthday every year because most of the birthdays 107 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: I be there. 108 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: We did Colla Rica. 109 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: We did Costa Rica in twenty twenty two, twenty three, yes, yeah, no, 110 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: twenty four you was in Puerto Rico and we called 111 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: you because you were by yourself, because it was like 112 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: I don't want her to get kidnapped or took or 113 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: john Wick through whatever. 114 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: So I had to make sure you were still alive. 115 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: But did you you you're with your girl. When you're 116 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: with your girl, I am leaving you alone. I'm letting 117 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: you know that. I mean, I think you know that, 118 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: but I'm just assuming you know that's y'all. She's you 119 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: doing breakfast in bed? You know you you know croissant, 120 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: a Brazilian croissant, if that's a thing, paste leo. 121 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: I had a pastelo. 122 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, but I well, I think that like it's 123 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: hard because it's like, yes, I'm with my girlfriend, but 124 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: my girlfriend does not like my friends are more not 125 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: more important, But I care about my friends just as much. 126 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: Sounds like you need to bring us on the trip 127 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: next year, will be there. 128 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 3: Yes, But when we were in Costa Rica, I got 129 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: I got phone calls on my birthday. So this was 130 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: the first birthday I did not get phone calls and 131 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 3: I was suprised. 132 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: Surprise, surprise, Sabra. But we celebrated your birthday when you 133 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 2: got back. 134 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, happy birthday, thank you, and everyone was saying it 135 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: when they saw you when you got back. 136 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: Yes, our guest today who's a close friend. I had 137 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: this conversation with him before and he was like, I didn't. 138 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: Call you, So it felt like that was ill. 139 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: Never I will never do that again, take a trip 140 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: or not post on your birthday. 141 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: And then I, yeah, I don't. I know. 142 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: It was like when you ain't got no hoes. It 143 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: felt like that. That's what it felt like. 144 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: But maybe people work on you. They just wasn't going through. 145 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: No I could see no calls on my birthday. Well 146 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: your phone doesn't work international for sure? 147 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: Wow? 148 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 5: Wow wow? 149 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 2: Were your phone goes ghosts? 150 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: That's crazy in Jamaica and Jamaica every every time you 151 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: in Thailand. 152 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: I've called you, No, Jamaica. My phone worked when I 153 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: was on the Wi Fi. My phone always works on 154 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: the Wi Fi. And that Verizon is mess so period 155 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: except ex it. 156 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: What's your mess? 157 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 5: Mary? 158 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: My mess is also family related? I don't what was 159 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: your mess? Family related? 160 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: No, my friends are my family. So yeah, okay, okay, 161 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: my message family related. My cousin got married last weekend 162 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: and my mom did not go to the wedding. My 163 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: mom didn't go to the wedding, and she made a 164 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: whole big, dramatic thing about it and then tried to 165 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: act like it wasn't a big deal when I spoke to. 166 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 2: Her about it yesterday. Who he shit and so dramatic. 167 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: So my cousin is my mom's nephew on my aunt's side, 168 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: So my mom and his mom are sisters, and my aunt, 169 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, this is her her son getting married, her baby. 170 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: So she got like a gold dress and silver shoes, 171 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: and she got her hair done. It was a wig, 172 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: but she, you know, she spent her like they spent 173 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: money and whatever. And she was talking to my mom 174 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: and my mom was like, I couldn't find something new 175 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: to wear, so I'm just gonna wear a dress that 176 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: I have, and my aunt was like, oh. 177 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: Okay, cool, calls my dad. 178 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: Messy, calls my dad and it's like, I can't believe 179 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: she didn't get a new dress for the wedding, Like, 180 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, if I'm going to wedding, I'm gonna dress 181 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: up and I want to look good. And my dad 182 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, I can't believe that either. And 183 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: then as soon as my mom got home, my dad 184 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: was like, let me tell you what your sister said 185 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: on the phone. 186 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: Dad is mess. Mess. The auntie man mess. Auntie mess. 187 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: Dad definitely mess. 188 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: And but the way that my aunt explained it to me, 189 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: she was like, well, your mom works really hard and 190 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: she doesn't spend any money on herself. 191 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: She deserves a nice note, does she does? She tell 192 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: dad that. I'm sure she said that to my dad 193 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: like that. 194 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: And then because he wasn't invited to the wedding, Oh 195 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't invited, Mom didn't tell him. 196 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: Oh, so it's the whole thing is mass. So that's 197 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. When my aunt called to talk to 198 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: him about the wedding, my dad was like. 199 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 4: What wedding? 200 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: Now that that's so mess. This is a layer. 201 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: This is a panini layered of mess that yeah, panini 202 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: press mess, Panini press mess souh. You know, my dad 203 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: was just itching to tell my mom what my aunt said, 204 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: and I'm sure he added extra adjectives to the story, right, 205 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: And so he told he was like, yeah, she said, 206 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: you don't have nothing new to wear, oh bitch. And 207 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: my mom was like, well, I guess I'm not going 208 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: to the wedding because they're not about to be looking 209 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: at me like I'm homeless at this wedding and I 210 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: don't need nobody talking about me. So this is the 211 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: night before the wedding, my mom decides this. Me and 212 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: my sister are like, what if we send you a uber? 213 00:08:58,679 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: What if we send you a car? My Mom's like, 214 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: I won't be there, no thanks, And she didn't come. 215 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: Then I'm talking to her on the phone like it's 216 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: gonna be mad Haitians at this wedding. You know, they're 217 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: gonna look crazy, like it's gonna be mad aunties and uncles, 218 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: they gonna look wild, like just show up. And my 219 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: mom was like no, and it was like such a 220 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: beautiful wedding. My cousin like was sad that she wasn't there. 221 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: But like you had such a nice time, and it 222 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: was like we're getting you're getting older, we're getting older, 223 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: Like this is the time to like be free and 224 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: do what you want. And instead you're just like mad 225 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: that this dress that would have looked great at the wedding. 226 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: You're mad, dad, She said that it wasn't new girl girl. 227 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: I mean, but as somebody who I feel your mom 228 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: on it, because it's like yo, trying to find an 229 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 3: outfit is so annoying and stressful and depending on like 230 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: how you're feeling, and so you're like, oh, I already 231 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: got something. I'm gonna bring that. And then somebody makes 232 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: a comment that something you were probably already like stressed 233 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: out about. You're like, you know what, fuck it, I 234 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: don't need it, I don't need to come whatever. Nobody 235 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: don't see me. My presence was a present goodbye, and 236 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: so yeah, I would have went anyway, but she didn't. 237 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: It already like messed up her mental and I'm sure 238 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: your mother was like ego about it, like goodbye, y'all 239 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: have fun now. 240 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: And then the next day my aunt was at my 241 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: mother's house and they were talking like nothing happened, missed 242 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: the whole wedding, missed the whole wedding, but like had 243 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: a card for my cousin with money and it Like, girl, 244 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: you could have just came to the wedding. 245 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't want to come. 246 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: What's cousin Andrews the vemo so we can send cinema gift, 247 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: Cindema wedding gift. But congratulations, brother, we have another reason 248 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: to celebrate today, Yes we do. 249 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: I'm so excited, so happy. 250 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: Fabulous guests in the studio, the best, the best, I mean, 251 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: you were unofficial expert of the unofficial expert, truly one 252 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: of the stars of Abbot Elementary, one of the stars. Yes, 253 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: and all number seven on the call, all all all 254 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: things theater and plays and greatness. 255 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: Larry Owens is in the building and. 256 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: The building, the building. 257 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 4: I just put gum with that moment. 258 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 2: That's a mess. Yeah, chewing chewing gum, chewing on the pod. 259 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 5: You don't yet, I know, doing around no respect. 260 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: You're gonna swallow it, you swallow it? Yeah, you're not. 261 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 3: You truly can't chew on the past. 262 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: Crazy get that you needed you making me swallows crazy? 263 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: Swallow? 264 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: Are you saying that this is not your your mother? 265 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 5: Wow? 266 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: Seconds whoa. 267 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: You got Okay, that's my phone charger. 268 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I sort of kicked it out of the plug 269 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 5: at twenty person, I can get down the road. 270 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean if you need to do it, 271 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 2: just at any point, we could do it and put 272 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: it on put it on airplane mode. 273 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't need this live camera to see 274 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 5: me sort of plugging in an the bias. 275 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: Give me your phone. Take that gum off, the loose 276 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: gum off. 277 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: You have gum for later on the phone, Larry. 278 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: It's a lot of mess going on, this whole thing. 279 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: Actually, yes, an invoice from iHeart. 280 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: Yes, you break it, you buy it, break it, you 281 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: buy it. 282 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 5: I can reach it. 283 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: Okay. 284 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: And you know who didn't do this when they came 285 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 1: to I heeart Riah car Sure didn't quen remove them? 286 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 5: Yeah right here? Yeah, yeah, I don't really need to 287 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 5: Wikipedia anything. 288 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: Okay. 289 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 5: I know everything about you too, Yeah, okay, you know everything. 290 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 2: Okay, Middle, you're putting more gum in your mouth. 291 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: This is chaos, This is truly Wow. I can't believe 292 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: we're off the rails. 293 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: This put more don't come out? 294 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 5: Whoa? 295 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 2: We said? 296 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: You know it's crazy because the title now the pod 297 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: truly becoming the titles every. 298 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: Time you want to be in the studio with us. 299 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: You got it, Maria carric Ma, Malary car Larry, They're 300 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: going to when you post this on Patreon, eventually they're 301 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: going to see it. 302 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 4: Yes, this is edits, which is why I didn't want 303 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 4: to bend over. 304 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: Okay, Larry, do you have any thoughts on what you 305 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: heard so far from the first half? 306 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 5: The first of all, congratulations chef Drew, Drew cousin Drew, 307 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 5: I really do, I know everything. 308 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 4: And Drew is just what an upstanding man. 309 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: He is so good, a good man. 310 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 5: We're just really happy for your family movie. And we're 311 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 5: actually really happy to hear about the inner workings of Mets. 312 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: Sort of the mess that made you so that is 313 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 4: maybe is sort. 314 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: Of king of the mess. You're princess mass Yeah, isn't 315 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: your genetic. 316 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 5: It's I love to hear that. And honestly, like, there's 317 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 5: nothing like good petty mess. 318 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the. 319 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 5: Petty or the mess actually kind of like the better. 320 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 5: It tastes like a little or dirt. Yeah, you know 321 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 5: what I mean. You get like a little like caviar 322 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 5: chip with crem fresh. You like, that's like, you know, 323 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 5: when the mess is small, now the global mess is 324 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 5: less funny. 325 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: Well, the global mess is people are dying every day. 326 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: Everything was a dress, right. 327 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: The petite mess is like this is. 328 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: I love your mom. 329 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: So I when you when you were texting me this, 330 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: I was like, wait, okay, like I don't want a 331 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: feelings to be heard. 332 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 4: Also, she kind of needs this small drama. 333 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 5: This is what makes her indie film of her life, 334 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 5: like after a twenty four films. 335 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 4: Dress dress, you know what I mean, he's already doing it. Yeah, 336 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 4: I got a time child. 337 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 5: I can't know new projects okay, Yeah, we can't nothing 338 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 5: up off the side of the road. 339 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: You know, is that what you call me? 340 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 5: No? 341 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 4: You know that film is going to be gorgeous. 342 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 5: That's going to take five years to bring it from 343 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 5: and I charge you with that. And in regards to 344 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 5: your mess, yeah, hiding oneself is mess. 345 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 4: I did the same thing one birthday. 346 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 5: I didn't post and then I found myself inside with 347 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 5: you know, my you know, my my move your musicals 348 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 5: being like where's the fanfare? And mind you, the fanfare 349 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 5: is out there even if we think we don't need it, 350 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 5: because it's actually not about vanity or ego, Like I 351 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 5: did try to explain this to you because you. 352 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: Were like wait, you were like you know, you were like, wait, 353 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: but I don't calling you. 354 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 5: I was, Oh, but yes, It's like it's actually an 355 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 5: acknowledgment that this life is tough as fuck and like 356 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 5: your body, no matter what the fuck you think happened, 357 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 5: went through three hundred and sixty five days like everybody else, 358 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 5: and we're just gonna acknowledge and celebrate that, and like 359 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 5: it kind of spiritually needs to be done because and 360 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 5: you don't get to the world alone. 361 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: And the birthday, the birthday day is so nice because 362 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: it's like people that you haven't spoken to in weeks, months, 363 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: maybe since your day, they pop back up and they're 364 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: like hey, and I like calling people on their birthdays 365 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: because I know that they're busy, so the calls. 366 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: Will be shure, Yeah, how you doing today, Happy birthday? 367 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: Don't want to hold you, gotta go. 368 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: Exactly, And that's what you wanted to feel. 369 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 5: You wanted to feel like like even just one would 370 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 5: have been one versus zero. Now happened zero was fucked 371 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 5: up feeling Yeah, but it was exactly what you asked for. 372 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 5: Who but going away to. 373 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: A foreign country with the park and not posting on 374 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: social media. 375 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: Shoot me up. 376 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 5: Volition you chose, yeah, volition, Yeah, down into the mic 377 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 5: Hey positive for both. It's so delicious. Let's keep it small. 378 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 5: Let's keep it smallst keep it unimportant, and then acknowledge 379 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 5: ourselves like it's gonna feel tough. Like it's like life 380 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 5: is mess like it's messy, which means that you know, 381 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 5: every cooking has clean up. So if you're gonna enjoy 382 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 5: the food, yeah. 383 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Larry owen. 384 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: The video camera, but you're all around, maybe you're on 385 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 1: Every cooking has a clean up. 386 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 5: Now you enjoy the food, you have a writer up 387 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 5: and you also have to there's a. 388 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: Little creative there's reads out loud. Now you hear it now, Larry, 389 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: I love you now, Larry? What what? 390 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 2: What? What is your mess? 391 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 5: Okay? 392 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: My mess is it's it's I don't. 393 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: Didn't pare a mess? 394 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: Okay, chewing gum didn't bring mess? 395 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: Is my mess? Like truly like having to arrive here. 396 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 5: And like both like put like my voice into this thing. 397 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 5: And also now we go on camera, so like now 398 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 5: like look amazing? 399 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 4: Do I look? 400 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: Okay? 401 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 4: All right? So and then you know you just go 402 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 4: off the dome. 403 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 5: You know, it's it's wild and yeah, I do think 404 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 5: you know, some people with microphones, not the girls in 405 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 5: this room, are responsible for a lot of the collapse 406 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 5: of society. Can you have all the cards? It really democratized. 407 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 5: We used to have to get cleared and pass a 408 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 5: step up on stage and like hold attention. Not anymore, 409 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 5: people just recline. I don't want to go negative on the. 410 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, you're going no, that is my mess. 411 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, Your negative in that house is hilarious. 412 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: That's another type of the pot. Now you could do both, 413 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: though you can you go in and out. 414 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 5: No, but my mess is that, like I like, I'm like, 415 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 5: I want to lean into the mess of it and 416 00:18:59,119 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 5: like not even choose. 417 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: Your episode will be the messiest one we've ever Yes, 418 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: we do. Yeah, the episode. 419 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: We love that. 420 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, inside the Messa verse, Well I will I will 421 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: say this because we are close. 422 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 4: Right. 423 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: You don't like podcasting yourself because you don't want to 424 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 3: reveal you're vulnerable. 425 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 5: No, don't want to do anything actually for the Wikipedia. 426 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 5: Yeah is gay? 427 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 4: I like that? 428 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: Also a great titles gay. 429 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 5: Actually really love it. 430 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: That's all your Wikipedia said, I think. 431 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 5: I haven't been, but like there's like a personal life, 432 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 5: you know, and it's like let's look up. 433 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: You know. 434 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: I love Wow. It doesn't need to be too much. 435 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to have to scroll too 436 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 2: much to see things. 437 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 5: No, No, it's it's definitely like it's an amazing like 438 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 5: way of getting the audiences. Like you two are the 439 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 5: best at the form, like the joy and like the 440 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 5: surprising moment and the guessing the relationship between you two, 441 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 5: Like it's so like. 442 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 4: You were actually like you know, on the pioneering end 443 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 4: of it. 444 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: So of this art, your heart a bitch pioneers. 445 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: I'm so Julie on my back. 446 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 5: Okay. 447 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: So the one thing about podcasting for you, you don't 448 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 3: want to give extra because you already gave so much 449 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: like in real life. 450 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, you know, like the work really I 451 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 5: love the work speaking for itself. Like I'm so interested 452 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 5: in people's work in their process, and I think that 453 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 5: that's so generous of artists to give over and so 454 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 5: then to like give over more. It's like we actually 455 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 5: have people doing these jobs now, you know, influencers and 456 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 5: reality stars, like they don't make art. 457 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 4: So you know, have them. 458 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: Die influencers and reality stars. 459 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like let's talk about that, right, Like can 460 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: we talk about reality stars? Which ones anyone that you 461 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: want to talk about? Because you are you are a 462 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: reality TV fan? 463 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched I watched Salt Lake. I just finished 464 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: that reunion. 465 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: Did you watch the Salt Lake When Mary Mary is good? 466 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 4: Mary's coming back? You don't even Marry. 467 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: Mary took the cake. She took the cake. 468 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 5: It's Mary's arc Marie, Like just from Mary alone, she 469 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 5: left for a little bit. Don't have to watch that, Yeah, 470 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 5: but from like watch season one where she's like, what, like, 471 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 5: what the hell am I doing on TV? And then 472 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 5: she comes back after her little break. She knows what 473 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 5: she's doing on TV. 474 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 3: Okay, which is very beautiful to see because now everyone 475 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 3: gets on reality and they know they're in reality TV, 476 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 3: and they're like are they already picked? 477 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: Oh, who I'm going to be? 478 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: And it's already it's too calculated, calculated, and they're preoccupied, 479 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: and it's like, where's the funny. 480 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 5: You're not leaving any room for what actually being a 481 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 5: housewife is. 482 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what the beast, that's the monster of the housewives, right. 483 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: The first seasons of it, it was like legit women, 484 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: just you know that have money, and we're doing their 485 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: own makeup, and we're wearing stuff from Barney's or Bloomingdale's 486 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: or Sacks or whatever, coals. 487 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: And maybe not coals. 488 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: And they were just saying funny things and being like 489 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: going to events and having a good time. And now 490 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: it's like I'm trying to sell a wine, I'm trying 491 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: to get a spin off, I'm trying to start. 492 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: My own wig line, and it's like they're trying to 493 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: sell a brand. 494 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 5: Salt Lake Works because it is this weird microcosm, like 495 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 5: they're kind of secluded, like and nothing else going on 496 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 5: in Salt Lake besides kind of the petty mess, right, 497 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 5: and then they also have this backdrop of religion and 498 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 5: like Marianda Church and a lot of them are Mormons. 499 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 5: Like that also just kind of gives a little, you know, 500 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 5: a little specificity. Like now the coastal ones are a 501 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 5: little too wide. It's like the New York girls wouldn't 502 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 5: be in the same room. Not in twenty twenty five. 503 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 3: Now I'm so upset. I'm so upset that they let 504 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 3: New York go like this. I'm so it was so 505 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 3: fun before Derenda, Ramona Luan Sonya, like those those witch 506 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: just came in there, like I don't care what anybody thinks. 507 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: We're gonna be racist, We're gonna be stupid. I'm gonna 508 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 3: be bad with money. My house got a lean on it. Whatever, 509 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: let's go. My house got a lean on it. 510 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: Let's go. 511 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 4: I know they they were, they were so good. 512 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 5: I think New York reached a tipping point where it 513 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 5: was like, you're out of tricks now, those that set 514 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 5: of women. But I feel like there was something that 515 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 5: they could have done to just shake that set up 516 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 5: or like same same series that's like like have like 517 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 5: a little fifteen minutes manhat fifteen minutes Brooklyn. 518 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 2: Like something something time. 519 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, girl slowly introduced some girls who like actually know 520 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 5: each other. Yeah, and it's meant to be different. But yeah, 521 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 5: it's a shame. It's a shame. 522 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 3: Nobody has a memorable line. Give me the like, no, 523 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: like watch Niini Leaks and come back, take a class, do. 524 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 4: Something emblematic of culture. 525 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 5: Me was spilling her well from hanging out with some 526 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 5: good old black gays in Atlanta. So when you aren't 527 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 5: getting Nani Leaks and I know that between black women 528 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 5: and queer black men there's a cultural exchanged. Chicken egg, 529 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 5: I know who started it. 530 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: You don't know, we don't know. 531 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: It's the black woman because they gave birth to the 532 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: black man, okay. 533 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 4: Or it's the black gays have to defy the black women. 534 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 4: It's homophobia. 535 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: No, no, you wouldn't be here. 536 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 5: If it wasn't for a black woman woman as a 537 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 5: black man. Only my privilege, I'll concede. Okay, okaymen, yeah, 538 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 5: make it easy. But I hear what you're saying exactly, 539 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 5: but saying that Nemi is bringing that to her reads. 540 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 4: Reading. 541 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 5: Shade came from reading. Reading came first. This is a 542 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 5: quote from Paris is Burning. And then we have in 543 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 5: the mid twenty tens, white people saying she's shading her. 544 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 5: You don't shade anyone, You throw shade. 545 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: Okay to teach. 546 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 5: And Hires built off Atlanta, popped it Jersey for the 547 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 5: table who. 548 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: Prostitution, whror horror, eyebrows non existent. That's forehead on zero 549 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 3: negative head. 550 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: Great, great title. I'll take that. Yeah, I wish for that. 551 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: That's one of my for sure. 552 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 5: You know, but Mary Mary learned organically. Mary like she came, 553 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 5: she kind of fell in her face. Were like, you're 554 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 5: so weird and she could have crumbled, but she came 555 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 5: back weirder than ever, like leaning. And then the season 556 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 5: with her her son's addiction, just like. 557 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: The love that, but not love addiction. But they love 558 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 3: when you are vulnerable. They love it when they know you. 559 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 5: Are actually remarkable, because you would think from three seasons 560 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 5: of Salt Lake that Mary can't you know, I can't 561 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 5: be there from for someone like you kind of doubt 562 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 5: her as a spiritual leader, and she actually did. She 563 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 5: practiced what she each in that moment. No me, I'm 564 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 5: a synec I'm watching I'm like production cut, voiceover cut, 565 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 5: like the match, look at the wine classes. I'm not 566 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 5: really watching reality with my heart open. But you know, 567 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 5: Mary got a little got me a little misty. 568 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have the journey fun. 569 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: No, she did because it was like I was like, 570 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 3: I don't have a son, but I've dealt with addiction. 571 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 3: And where she where she was coming from, I was like, 572 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: that's what he needs, he needs that. I was like, yes, 573 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 3: this is exactly how you're supposed to look at it. 574 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: Damn, I don't I don't watch something but if you there, 575 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 2: there's clips on it. There's clips. I did watch Secret 576 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: Life of Mormons? Is that was? What was that? The 577 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: show Mormons of what are the sex Lives of? 578 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 579 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 2: I watched a couple of episodes of that. 580 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: They all look the same and they right, yeah, they 581 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: all have the same extensions. 582 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: They go to the same lady they go to. It's 583 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: the same place. They all soaking together, you know, yeah, soaking. 584 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 4: We all know this. 585 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 5: That's TikTok. Yeah, there's no other reason. Yeah, people just 586 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 5: be like soaking throwing it out there. You didn't learn 587 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 5: it from. 588 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I had a show the other day and 589 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: there was a couple in the audience, but there was 590 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: a person sitting between them, and I was like, why 591 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: aren't y'all not sitting next to each other? And the 592 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: guy was like, we're Mormon. And I was like, oh, 593 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: is the friend in the middle of the one that 594 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: shakes the bed? Everybody laughed, and the people who didn't laugh, 595 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: I said, oh, y'all not on sick took. 596 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: I don't know about the Mormon. 597 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 5: But then, okay, let's talk a little about so TikTok 598 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 5: was that was my original number one that was coming here. 599 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: That was your mess is mess. 600 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 5: It had a stronghold on me. It was gripping my 601 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 5: brain cells. 602 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: So why is it mess? What's on it or what 603 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 2: it's done to you? 604 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 5: I think what it's done to the country, what it's 605 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 5: done to entertainment, to the idea of the entertainment industry, 606 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 5: and yeah, like what it does to our attend like 607 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 5: to art, Like we don't understand that this value time 608 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 5: we spend on there is the time that like we 609 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 5: need to be using for powder revolution. 610 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, but that's what they're but they're doing. 611 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 3: But they believe that they're doing the revolution on the 612 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 3: TikTok and. 613 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 4: You can't and you can't do it like. 614 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: They say they're doing the work here. You like, you can't. 615 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: You can only free Palestine while you're on the t 616 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: t feting. 617 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 5: Into you're feeling into the oppressor as you do. It's 618 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 5: like it's hard. Obviously there's no like ethical consumption, but 619 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 5: like you can literally get your news, organization, entertainment elsewhere, 620 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. This isn't like the one 621 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 5: grocery store in the hood. This is what you're doing 622 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 5: with your time. And really it was just like having 623 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 5: it be taken away and then giving back as a 624 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 5: gift from the pident. Oh, I will never be grateful. 625 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 5: I will like thank you, Like this can't be a 626 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 5: gift giving it back. 627 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: The propaganda of it all. 628 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: It was like, we're going to work with President Trump 629 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: to be back soon hopefully. 630 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: And then it went away for like ten minutes minutes 631 00:28:59,560 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: it was. 632 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: And then they got back and they were like rejoicing 633 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: President Trump and. 634 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: It was like he hasn't even become president. 635 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And they were like, you know what, we're gonna 636 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: get on red Note, We're gonna learn Mandarin. And I 637 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: was like, you can't read. 638 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 5: You don't want manifest I was like, was like, I 639 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 5: did not know. It was so fast on Commonist. It 640 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 5: was like that was a jump. It was sound right 641 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 5: over Socialism. They're like, go for it. This is crazy. 642 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: It stressed me out for shoot, at the moment, I 643 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: was like, because I didn't want people to think like, oh, 644 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't want TikTok because I don't want people get money, 645 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: because obviously people are using it for marketing and getting 646 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: their audience, and I love that they're going. But at 647 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 1: the moment that I was like, it's almost gonna it's 648 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: gonna be gone. 649 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: Fuck, maybe we'll get back to like how it used 650 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: to be, like. 651 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: Being you know, connected and not so focused on being 652 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: perceived and putting ourselves in this marketing bubble. 653 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: That's what I was excited. I was like, Okay, maybe we'll. 654 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 3: Just start existing that That's what I was excited for. 655 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, serve a double edged sword because the access and 656 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 5: reach of it is so great. Obviously, like anyone anywhere 657 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 5: can post a video and it could in minutes be 658 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 5: seen by millions of people. But I think just as 659 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 5: thinking people, and I'm only talking to thinking people now. 660 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 5: If you're making now if you're if you're a contrarian, 661 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 5: if you are, it's not a rd ass if you're 662 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 5: a butt, but but if you're a Devil's advocate, like. 663 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 4: Please jez the room, Yeah it acrs. 664 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 5: They're thinking person, just like ask yourself, like if something 665 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 5: is easily given, how easy is it to take away? 666 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 5: And so we actually saw that in those fourteen hours. 667 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 5: It's like all these people's livelihood, the people were depending 668 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 5: on that they got from this very relative, you know, 669 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 5: accessible medium was then able to be taken away and 670 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 5: all the benefits. 671 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: And they did it early they were like, on the nineteenth, 672 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: it is going to go. And then on the eighteenth 673 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: and Tampion people were like. 674 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: What it's gone, It's like, what's going on? 675 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: Doct They said, we're trying to get out of here early. 676 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: Let's just unplug it, lug it now so I can 677 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: go home to my wife. 678 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 5: That's going. Yeah. 679 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 4: I haven't posted on i G at all year. 680 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: It's hard all year. 681 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 4: I know, I'm really trying to upstate. 682 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: Why Sydney on her birthday? 683 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 5: Well, when I deleted TikTok, I did read seven books 684 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 5: in two weeks. 685 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: Shut up? Yeah, wait, seven real books. 686 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's various sizes. 687 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: But you were you're a reader before that, so don't 688 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: even do that. 689 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 5: But why couldn't I hold the sentence when I'm going 690 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 5: four hours of talk? Why? 691 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: Why can't I? Why can I? 692 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 5: Why? Through them holding the bone? I dropped the phone 693 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 5: from here to my. 694 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 3: Face, glasses on my nose, on everything right on the 695 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 3: Jackson five. 696 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: It's true, it's happened to all of us. 697 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 5: And watching what I can't tell you? I can't tell you? 698 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 5: Why then something I can't tell you? 699 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: Okay? That was the test being tested by the tt T. 700 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I just really wanted to reclaim, honestly, my focus. 701 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 5: I wanted to reclaim like my own internal voice, and 702 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 5: I wanted to reclaim just like how I think about 703 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 5: my art being positioned in the world. 704 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: But you're a genius though, like you're like you're not 705 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: like an average person. 706 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 4: Okay. 707 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 5: First of all, thank you, wow, Okay, whoa. And second 708 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 5: of all, I think that we all are more engaged 709 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 5: in alert than we give ourselves credit for. And that's 710 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 5: what TikTok does. It allows us to undermine our intelligence. 711 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 5: That's what Fox News does, That's what CNN does, That's 712 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 5: what the right conservative edge is trying to do. They're 713 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 5: trying to take people to their lowest common denominator, not 714 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 5: to the part of themselves. It says, oh, wait, we 715 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 5: actually can create enough renewable energy in six months to 716 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 5: sustain us and we never have to worry about ol again. 717 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 5: Oh if we just simply have like the emotional conversation 718 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 5: about the blight of slavery on our peoples and we 719 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 5: learn how to rehabilitate the white psyche after hundreds of 720 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 5: years of faux idea of privilege, and then. 721 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 4: Well you know what I mean, introduced the coexistence. 722 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: Have you still off TikTok? 723 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: He can't, he can't redownload it, he's not on I 724 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: don't know, but you can use it on the laptop. 725 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 4: Wait, is this true? Way I can't get back on it. 726 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: No, yeah, if you deleted it, delet didn't get back 727 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: well for me, thank you. 728 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,239 Speaker 4: Oh yes, and listen to my practice and no I did. 729 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: I mean I feel what you're saying, because that's why 730 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 3: I like, I've been struggling. I was like an online 731 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: person and I've been struggling because I was like, yo. 732 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: I'm so caught up. 733 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm so caught up with like how I want to 734 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: put stuff out? 735 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: How nomn how side so much? How it was it 736 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: was not for fun. 737 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 5: These things used to be fund out purely fun, and 738 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 5: they weren't coming for the government. I had downloaded the 739 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 5: back you know, if it was a load of you know, 740 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 5: little little something something. 741 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 4: But no, it's too much. 742 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 5: We were okay, So I before not posting everyone on Instagram, 743 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 5: I actually unarchived all of my posts. Yeah, right before 744 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 5: the end of twenty twenty four, so December, I was like, oh, 745 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 5: it's like y'all on archive and I. 746 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: Went, you know, I came for you when you archived exactly. 747 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: It was like, I was like, what's it's a different time. 748 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 4: It's a different time. 749 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 5: It was it was taking that transition from personal to 750 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 5: purely professional to you know, completely corporatized. We watched that 751 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 5: happen in seven years. We watched Instagram, so the fore 752 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 5: mother to TikTok, the like what we spend hours on. 753 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 4: We watched it, watched it be so fun. 754 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, people used to post grainy photos of food 755 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: and put a weird filter on. 756 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 4: But I was on our memes. 757 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: The themes were like. 758 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 5: I'm taking a photo of your hat right now, and 759 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 5: been like ooring is my favorite color, and thirteen likes 760 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 5: to skip down the streets thirteen likes and all to 761 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 5: look dot on the train and like is and that's 762 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 5: that's it, you know what I mean. That's like a 763 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 5: photo cataloging thing, and now it's just so far from that. 764 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 4: But it used to be so fun. 765 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 5: And I understand, like our are that we want to connect, 766 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 5: like that's the most human thing ever. And I understand 767 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 5: that the phone makes it seem like the mirage literal 768 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 5: glass and light. It makes it seem like we're connected 769 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 5: with each other, but nothing is that substantial social media. 770 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 2: Social media. They're like, yeah, I have one hundred thousand friends, 771 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: and it's like. 772 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: Do you know because when it was my actual birthday, 773 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 3: the niggas didn't talk. 774 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 2: I have a sister. 775 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 5: I have it. 776 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: I legit have a sister. 777 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 3: That's why I have no my brother didn't call, and 778 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 3: I talked to my brother more, which is I. 779 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: Was like, this is something's not adding up AnyWho? 780 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, I think that, Like, uh, I actually 781 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: want to take it all the way back to my space. 782 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 3: That's yeah, I's coding. 783 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 4: We didn't even know. 784 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 2: I want the dollar, the dollar sign to rotate the. 785 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 5: Top eight, kind of like American's model Core. Yeah, it's 786 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 5: choosing now. Can you imagine it's choosing eight people? And 787 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 5: I will up there. I don't want to imagine image. 788 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to have 789 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: to think about it. 790 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 5: But actually, you know what I want that what he 791 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 5: I am? What at a computer? Chat with you at 792 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 5: a computer? 793 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: I want to put an away message up and people 794 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: be like, gir, what you're doing over there? 795 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 5: Exactly exactly what would your way message be? 796 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 4: Right now? 797 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 2: They had the away message now on Instagram. 798 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 4: I don't like it, not I need more. 799 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: My way message right now would be in the stew 800 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 2: with my boot. 801 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 5: It's actually really good, but it's like head, it's to 802 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 5: the stew so we would tell them it was such 803 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 5: a gorgeous communication. You could be doing something talk and 804 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 5: talking to six people at once, long sentences. 805 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 2: But that's what texting is right now, like. 806 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 5: Much with the device, because why are you getting your 807 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 5: communication from me from the same place that you get 808 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 5: your videos? 809 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 2: And you and you want the separation in your email 810 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 2: and your email because you just. 811 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 4: Parasympathetically. 812 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 5: I believe that we feel the energy of like all 813 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 5: the power that our device holds, even if we don't confront. 814 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 4: It all the time. 815 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 2: Okay, So now that you don't have any social media on. 816 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: Your phone on Instagram, I scrolled, Oh you're just not 817 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 1: posting it, no. 818 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 5: Posts, and I'm scrolling less because of this diet. 819 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So I forgot what my question was because it 820 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: turned out I was wrong. 821 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 4: What was it? 822 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 2: Oh, you were going to say, Oh, how how are 823 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 2: you spending your time? 824 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 4: Now? 825 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 2: How do you? 826 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: I mean you said you read seven books in two weeks. 827 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: Need to see the episod of these books. Did they 828 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: look like the gum packet. 829 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 3: That's fine, we'll post we'll post the books that you read. 830 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 3: We'll put it on the Yeah, but you're still post 831 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 3: it on the fence. 832 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 5: No, I don't even like that no more the fence 833 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 5: to ry. Everybody quiet wants to. 834 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: Be popping, really giving, like, oh, now I know. 835 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 4: You because you want to show the front. 836 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 2: They don't want to. It's crazy because you well, because 837 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 2: it's the leaks. 838 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: You can't trust people. People are inside of it now 839 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: and it's like, yo, you can't just keep it, like 840 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: even if you do know, don't let howther people know that? 841 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 2: You know? Like, why are you doing that? 842 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 3: That sucks up the whole reason why we're doing fincedown, 843 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: that's the whole point. 844 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 2: How do we feel about close friends closes? 845 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 5: I love being on it. There's a few green bubbles 846 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 5: that I love and I'm not even close with these people. 847 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: But oh every time somebody asks me to their close 848 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: friends still, now I'd be like. 849 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 4: I love it. 850 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 5: But yeah, there are two closes, and I'm just like 851 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 5: just happy to see these people go, you know, like 852 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 5: like some like some twenties, they're still in their twenties 853 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 5: and they're like having fun. I'm like, wait, this is 854 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 5: what this is what I would be doing if I 855 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 5: was Keatsy, Like I'm in my I'm in my transition. 856 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 4: I'm not dad, but I'm like giving young Dad. 857 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 2: You're giving young Dad. 858 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 5: I think my voice like, I'm like, hey, you still 859 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 5: sound like that. 860 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 4: Okay, dam's fucked up. 861 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 2: No, I think it's you're not on d T. 862 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 3: You got such a serious you know it goes with 863 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 3: the button now, but it's like. 864 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 5: Chair she was whispering, Well yeah, but you probably lean 865 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 5: in just a little bit and just say something right. 866 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 2: That the thing. 867 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: But that's also about being celebrity though I think, you know, 868 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: what are you doing? 869 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 2: I think that like, you know, that's but that's celebrity. 870 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 3: That's the difference between TikTok is, Like people want to 871 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 3: be famous, but they don't need to be a celebrity. 872 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 3: They're like, I'm going to be in this bonnet. I 873 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 3: didn't wash my face. I'm saying what I want. 874 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 2: I went by. 875 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 4: TikTok is a mess. TikTok loves when you're down. 876 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 2: When you're down bad, when you're spiraling. 877 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 4: You have a bond. 878 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 5: There's something wrong with black culture. From the hood Baltimore City. 879 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 5: But they want that. They definitely will take that over 880 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 5: glam any day. 881 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 2: They want to make up smeared, they want mess that. 882 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,720 Speaker 5: They want that that or fresh Valentino every day. 883 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, like like what what lane are you in? 884 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 885 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 2: TikTok. 886 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: They also love the like well put together, like good life, 887 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: hair is always done, get ready with me. 888 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 2: They also love. 889 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 5: That consumer culture when someone's like my day and they 890 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 5: like opened a drawer of like things packages and they 891 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 5: put that on top of another product like they do. 892 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 1: And then they have the TikTok shop like my links 893 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: and it's like okay, okay, it's like these. 894 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 2: Glasses from TikTok shop. No I actually got from. No 895 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 2: I got this from. 896 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: I went to Keangle store and they were yeah Jackson. 897 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 2: No, I think they both they both yeah, I would say, 898 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 2: but whatever. 899 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think like the selling everything everybody's selling 900 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 3: ship on there. 901 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 5: Now. He's supposed to be good word and he's supposed 902 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 5: to be like, I'm really good at this thing. 903 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 4: It's not like I do this one thing only and 904 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 4: you will you know what I mean. It's like it. 905 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 5: There was a moment I was dancing around, like what 906 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 5: My participation on that website was like as a person 907 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 5: who like, as a person do you mean? And I 908 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 5: was just like, ultimately, I like an anti niche, like 909 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 5: a comedian who say, like, that's like, but both are niches. 910 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 5: It's two and one, you know what I mean. It's 911 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 5: like I'm an actor who's black, you know what I mean. 912 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 5: So it's like I'm not just like wipeway of the mind. 913 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 5: Like it's like so it's it's just it just requires 914 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 5: such single mindedness. 915 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: My tactic for TikTok now is just throwing everything at 916 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: the wall and whatever. 917 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 2: Stick sticks. 918 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 4: You're amazing, You're like, I'm just saying comedian to the bone. 919 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just like yeah. But like the stuff is 920 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 2: does really well. 921 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: And then a lot of the stuff recently is just 922 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: like okay, dude, it's nobody on TikTok I think it's 923 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: algorithmic racism. Algorithmic racism, thank you. 924 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 5: But and so that's like a little bit of like 925 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 5: the invisible insipid stuff. Yeah. 926 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: If I was blond and skinny and had blue eyes 927 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: and my dad was like a judge or something, I 928 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: would be in a poppy commercial. 929 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 4: Right now. I think you're gonna be a poppy commercial. 930 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 5: Now, TikTok wants you to think that you need all 931 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 5: those things a person. That means it's working. This is 932 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 5: not funny, y'all, but it is. 933 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: They're getting there fighting the tiktoctors to the Grammys. They 934 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: inviting them to the They're in Super Bowl ads, like. 935 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 2: At the mec Gala. They at the met Gala, Like 936 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 2: what table? Who sponsored a table for you? But they're there. 937 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're entertainers. They deserve it. 938 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 3: I've sat and watched it, you know, a seventeen part 939 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 3: thing on like you know, my brother slept with my 940 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 3: sister and now they got a baby together, and you. 941 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 2: Know, I'm going to the I'm going to the birthday 942 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 2: of the baby. Like what do the baby look like? 943 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 2: Show me a phone with the baby now. 944 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 3: But like I watched them, like okay, like this is 945 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 3: it'll be more compelling. 946 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: This some of the stuff that I see on TV. 947 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: And I'm like, you'll crazy. Remember Marisa Tisasa. She was 948 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: like a forty seven part series. I don't even know 949 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: what the final count was, but everybody like all over the. 950 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 5: World was Yeah, it was episodic. 951 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 3: But you think that like you're special, Like there was 952 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 3: a moment where you're like, oh, you're special and like 953 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 3: nobody else had this has happened to and there was 954 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 3: a moment where everything that's out there is like there's 955 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 3: only a few of it. Now, It's like I don't 956 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 3: feel that way, Like I think that I'm funny. I 957 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 3: know there's nobody's like me. The things that happened to 958 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 3: me happened to me, and then there's me. But then 959 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 3: I get on TikTok and I'm like, girl, there's millions 960 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 3: of people crazy. Shit is I'm not comparing. I'm just 961 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 3: this is a fact. 962 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 5: But you aren't comparing by virtue, by virtue looking at 963 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 5: other people relationship to your art. 964 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 4: No, it's just like why do your TikTok? Was my 965 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 4: life changed? Like what do I do? It's like I 966 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 4: literally just. 967 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 5: Like don't think about other people who like, you know, 968 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 5: work all day to make thirty second clips when I write, 969 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 5: you know, plays. 970 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 2: I create art. 971 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 4: I don't think about the art, you know what I mean? 972 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 5: Like and just yeah, I just really understand that, Like 973 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, Like I'm on the Mess podcast. It's 974 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 5: like this is plenty of attention. You know what I 975 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 5: mean like I get to be a part of like 976 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 5: abb Elementary, Like that's plenty of attention. 977 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 4: You know. 978 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 5: It's like why why if this thing that I'm using 979 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 5: for fun makes me feel like I'm not doing something enough? 980 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 5: And that's for everyone. That's for like, like if you 981 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 5: are an artist at a record label, they're like, get 982 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 5: on TikTok and so you have a record deal and 983 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 5: you make me read music and play the piano and 984 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 5: they're telling you to. 985 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 2: Like get but about it. 986 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 3: Okay, you don't sound like Monique, but your Monique in 987 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 3: a blazer right now? 988 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 4: Every time, you know, I'm always on her side. 989 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah side, Yeah, I'm like yeah. 990 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 5: That was probably like one where I was like, okay, 991 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you know, Shannon got one. But like generally, yeah, 992 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,720 Speaker 5: I'm very much a line with my bottom my stuff. 993 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:33,280 Speaker 2: I love that. Thank you for sharing, Larry. 994 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 3: What do you do for fun? Like that has nothing 995 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 3: to do with comedy theater? 996 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 5: Yeah? 997 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 2: Work, work, reading? What else? What else are we doing? 998 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 2: Is the reading? The fun? 999 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 5: The reading is really fun. And I do go to 1000 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 5: the library a lot. 1001 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 2: They know you your part is platinum. You're a platinum library. 1002 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 5: Do you know your public library that line. 1003 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, why podcast that line? I want to leaning in 1004 00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: for library. 1005 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: To Yes, we don't we need the library, give it 1006 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: to us what is happening there because we will. Famously, 1007 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: Carrie Bradshaw was trying to get married in that library 1008 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: and she did get stood up. 1009 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 2: In that life, it did not happen. So one stuff 1010 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 2: does happen. 1011 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 5: A yeah, I know, I know go to the patients 1012 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 5: afforded to when I go to a different one. But yeah, 1013 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 5: I know there's a guy who, like it was definitely 1014 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 5: a skeezer who sits at this one desk every time. 1015 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 5: And if like a girl sits across from like a 1016 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 5: young like student girl, he will watch like a weird 1017 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 5: sort of SMR video of their type. So if she's Asian, 1018 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 5: it'll be an Asian girl like combing her hair. It 1019 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 5: feels and I don't like it. 1020 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 2: Are you going to step in or not? No, Okay, 1021 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 2: I don't. 1022 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 5: Really know if it is, but you hear what I'm saying. 1023 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 2: I do. But that's the just between me and you 1024 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 2: is like. 1025 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 3: I need to know if I'm going to the library 1026 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 3: all the time, I'm most likely going to get involved 1027 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 3: that I know. 1028 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 2: I know, I see her a lot. What's going on 1029 00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 2: is that her? 1030 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's so old and scary, honestly, Like, I don't 1031 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 5: think that you would be old and gary. 1032 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 2: I'm those together? 1033 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 4: I know, Am I wrong? 1034 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 2: You can push him over, you can blow on you fall. 1035 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 5: I guess I haven't really said anything because libry is 1036 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 5: kind of a silent place, like you don't really talk anyway. 1037 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 2: Well I don't. 1038 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 3: That's the thing, Like, now I don't know what we 1039 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 3: should be doing because people are so used to putting 1040 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 3: their phone up or like telling a story about something 1041 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 3: that happened that it's like why you didn't call the 1042 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 3: cops or why you didn't get involved? So now we 1043 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 3: don't know what. 1044 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 4: But what is the line? 1045 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 5: What is the line of the vigilante in twenty twenty 1046 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 5: five is if it's phone enough, you just recorded and 1047 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 5: you know that's it, You got it. 1048 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's certain situations you can't do anything except 1049 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 1: record or stand and bear witness. I saw a video 1050 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: the other day a shark jumped into a boat with 1051 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: all of these white. 1052 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 2: Dudes and it was like flanling around. 1053 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: It had all these little razor sharp teeth and they're 1054 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: all like who and like shooting it and laughing, and 1055 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: people were like why would they just let it suffocate 1056 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: on the boat, And everyone in the comments was like, 1057 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,280 Speaker 1: have you ever tried to pick up a shark? 1058 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,240 Speaker 2: How are you supposed to get in there? And it's 1059 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 2: flailing and flash Like. 1060 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: Comment section is mass, but the comments sometimes is the 1061 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 1: best part of the medium, because. 1062 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was I remember there was like a shark 1063 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 3: following a seal. The seal jumped on the boat and 1064 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 3: the seal was like and but then people were trying 1065 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 3: to push the seal. 1066 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 2: It's like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Save 1067 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 2: this seal? 1068 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: And they were like, well, we don't want this seal 1069 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: on this boat. Also, the shark is coming at it 1070 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: because the seals here what it wants. But also the 1071 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: seal didn't put in for the boat. It's true, and 1072 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,760 Speaker 1: that is real Housewives bright there. 1073 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 4: Com like like. 1074 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 5: After the Super Bowl performance, it's like you would never 1075 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 5: everyone was sitting in the stadium watch having opinions. No 1076 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 5: one could walk up to Kendrick and tell him, you 1077 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 5: know what I mean, whatever opinion. 1078 00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter, it's it's all not comment. 1079 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 5: Is now in a Wall Street Journal article and that 1080 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 5: reading someone's nonsense yep. And because people say it now 1081 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 5: it's fact, and it's like people because we'll say anything anonymously. Oh. 1082 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: My favorite thing is when you talk to somebody and 1083 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 1: you're like, I read this article that said and it's like, no, 1084 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 1: you watched a TikTok. 1085 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 2: TikTok is a new reading if you didn't. So I 1086 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 2: read this article the other day. I don't remember where 1087 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 2: it was. It was on TikTok. 1088 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 5: My my like verification of my new sources has also 1089 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 5: got up. I will say, like, I just have to 1090 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 5: go to trusted new sources. 1091 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 2: Where what's the truth piece? 1092 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 5: You know? I mean, we're all around, We're all around. 1093 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 5: We hear Wall Street Journal. I already mentioned them. 1094 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,919 Speaker 3: Plug is some of the fact that it well, AP 1095 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 3: is a mess because they had these girls interviewing people 1096 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 3: and they were interviewing baby Pace, the Kenneth babyface Yes, 1097 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 3: and they pushed him to decide to have chuck up. 1098 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 2: So it was like, AP, do I trust you now? 1099 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 5: He said, he said, you go do that. 1100 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you go do that, And that's how you 1101 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: have to move. That's how we have to move in 1102 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 1: twenty two five, respect. 1103 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 5: Ball, it's the easiest thing to do. It's like that's 1104 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,399 Speaker 5: the state of like the media. It's like that's They're 1105 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 5: just like. 1106 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 4: Wow, why like why can't you focus? 1107 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 5: Why why do you with a microphone in your hand 1108 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 5: talking to a multi Grammy, a war winning artist at 1109 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 5: the Grammy's. 1110 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 2: Legend legend, legend legend, Why can't you. 1111 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 5: Sustain a thought more than fourteen motherfucking her fy jerky 1112 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 5: seconds to get to the end of the sentence and. 1113 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: Say, because TikTok videos are fifteen seconds, thirty seconds, sixty seconds, 1114 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 1: ten minutes. 1115 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 2: Yes, So they're like, why would I our brain? Those 1116 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 2: girls were like twenty our. 1117 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 5: Brains, our brains, You got your work. You're in the 1118 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 5: middle of something. 1119 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 2: So how do we strengthen our brains? I gotta do sudokus. 1120 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, you do a lot of wordles fromles. 1121 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 4: Word right now. You know I'm playing chest out too. 1122 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 4: See I'm not a word person ever, But this. 1123 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 2: Is you're not boring because I had to. 1124 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 5: Come up out of the mess, you know, not well, 1125 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 5: just like you know. 1126 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 2: We sit and mess here. This is mess. 1127 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I just have to like do 1128 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:08,879 Speaker 4: like be home. 1129 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 5: I just have to like you know, save my energy 1130 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 5: and just like grow. 1131 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 4: Up and focus. 1132 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 2: Grow up and focus. Is that what you're saying right now? 1133 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 5: In five? A child and distract up and focus my trauma. 1134 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 2: That's not like a four. 1135 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 5: Now that's my trauma response. I'm like, oh, like. 1136 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 2: I feel you on that. 1137 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 3: I feel that I'm in a cross road right now 1138 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 3: because it's like, damn, I want to be you know, 1139 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,399 Speaker 3: giddy and fun and. 1140 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 2: Just like that that that. 1141 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 3: But now it's like because of this birthday, I'm like, hmmm, 1142 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1143 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 2: We gotta make a ship, we gotta pivot. 1144 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm usually relieving tension, like like the 1145 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 5: mess is I call my mess, Like having fun would 1146 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 5: usually respond. 1147 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 4: To me like relieving tension. 1148 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, now there's so much retention, but I'm always having fun. 1149 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 4: I have a fun line. 1150 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah you are my friends New York. 1151 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:07,760 Speaker 4: It's fun. 1152 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,879 Speaker 5: And I have to be like okay, okay, great, I've 1153 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 5: like I've seen it. I was like like, I know 1154 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 5: what a big room looks like. I know what a 1155 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 5: small room looks like. I know a room face people 1156 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 5: look like. I know a room with everybody looks like. 1157 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 5: It's like, you know, I can compare it, you know, 1158 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 5: I can just keep going. 1159 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 4: But just go home. 1160 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, just go home, just like instead instead of trying 1161 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 5: to escape into like someone's perfect organization or they're perfect 1162 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 5: like politic or they're amazing singing voice. This is a TikTok, 1163 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 5: by the way, instead of like experiencing all of that 1164 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 5: in this way that it's just not enough investment for me. 1165 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 5: So yeah, I just like I want to mature. Our 1166 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 5: country needs to mature. I feel like I'm just like 1167 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,240 Speaker 5: not because shit ain't funny. 1168 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, but when you think about it, our country 1169 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,839 Speaker 1: is really not that old. Yeah, compared to you know, 1170 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: some of these other countries that's been around for three 1171 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: thousand and five thousand years old. 1172 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,840 Speaker 3: You know, we're so unseerious though, Like we're so un 1173 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,919 Speaker 3: like you know, when when Donald Trump was like they're 1174 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 3: eating the cast, they made a remix. 1175 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 2: Eating we should be Laughing. 1176 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 4: Podcast, I'm like, you're doing. 1177 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 5: You said something insanely and like the next like like 1178 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 5: the subterranean and now it's a fun thing and it's 1179 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,280 Speaker 5: literally it's like the spirit of black Twitter co opted 1180 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,439 Speaker 5: by white media, white legacy media, and now we're left 1181 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 5: with the deterioration of. 1182 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 4: A government black people. 1183 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 5: We have the privilege to make shit funny that ain't 1184 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 5: been funny because we're talking about no reparations from chattel 1185 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 5: slavery and we have to that's all right now now, Now, 1186 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:53,240 Speaker 5: Becky from Ohio and Bruce from something should be serious 1187 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 5: to you because someone was serious to your grandfather who 1188 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 5: came over here by choice from wherever. You know, like 1189 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 5: dot was important on the santam Aia, you know what 1190 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 5: I mean. So it's like, how do we balance ourselves 1191 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,959 Speaker 5: so no one can have like fun petty mess again? 1192 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 1: I think remove everything from TikTok except the wrapping chift. 1193 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 1: This guy that cooks and he wraps when he cooks, 1194 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: he made a spicy RIGATONI the other day that I 1195 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: was like. 1196 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of the song that he used, 1197 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 2: but it was I don't know. I literally watched it 1198 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 2: last night. 1199 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 5: Oh so you didn't hold on to it from last night. 1200 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,320 Speaker 5: About TikTok brain. 1201 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 2: It sounds like we'ed brain. Sounds like we'd brain yourself. 1202 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 5: It's harty And if I didn't make it how you 1203 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 5: make it, then I'm sorry. The chicken breads and marinated 1204 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,760 Speaker 5: and some yoga garlic pangs and ginger pas. 1205 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 4: I got some thriller and spices. 1206 00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 2: That's not the one that I watched by This. 1207 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 4: Is what we don't have overall deals anymore. 1208 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 2: It is definitely not modo. All right, well let's read 1209 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 2: some mess. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, let's read some 1210 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,799 Speaker 2: mess and Larry, you could tell us how you feel 1211 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 2: about it. 1212 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is good like a little prompt. 1213 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 5: Yes, we love a prompt. 1214 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 2: This is a different segment, and then we'll get everybody 1215 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 2: out it. 1216 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,919 Speaker 1: Look the finish line, well, I mean I'm literally looking 1217 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 1: at the clock. 1218 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 5: Clock. 1219 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 2: It's over there. I put it over to here. Are 1220 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 2: you ready? It's a long one. 1221 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, this might make me sound like an ass is 1222 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 1: the title. Hey, Marie and Sydney. So here's my mess. 1223 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: I have a partner that's messy, an amazing partner. He 1224 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: makes me feel loved, wanted, care for best relationship i've had, So. 1225 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:49,280 Speaker 2: What's the wrong. 1226 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: However, before meeting him, I was having sex with a 1227 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: different man for about a year. 1228 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 2: This man is good at sex, great at sex. 1229 00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 4: I knew what it was going to be. 1230 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 2: Best sex. Honestly, make sure I come every time. 1231 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: She's dragging it. She's fucking dragging it. Girls, get out 1232 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 1: of multiple rounds, long used toys. 1233 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 2: Does it all? Girl? You don't have a job. Why 1234 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 2: do you need you need all that? 1235 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 5: Just because you haven't seen a Cydney doesn't mean it's 1236 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 5: not possible you haven't. 1237 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,760 Speaker 2: Okay, this is not what we was doing in Brazil. 1238 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: I stopped having sex with this man after hearing his thoughts, 1239 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 1: like if he had just shut up and fucked, I 1240 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,319 Speaker 1: would have been none the wiser. I had a man 1241 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 1: like that once. This man is a misogynistic ass. What 1242 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 1: really ended it is when he gave me an STI ladies, 1243 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: no matter what. 1244 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 2: Males say, make them wear a condom or leave. 1245 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 1: I also decided I wanted a boyfriend, so I told 1246 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: him our sessions were over and I went on to 1247 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,839 Speaker 1: find my partner. We remained somewhat friends following ig talk 1248 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,760 Speaker 1: about our travels and anime, nothing else. 1249 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:57,319 Speaker 4: Mm hm. 1250 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: A year into the relationship, the sex guy texted me 1251 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 1: asking could I come over for a good time. No, 1252 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 1: I don't even reply, just blocked. I thought it was disrespectful. 1253 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't post my partner, but he shouldn't know if 1254 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: I have a man. But I'd be lying because I 1255 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 1: think they still stuff anime. But I'd be lying if 1256 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: I said I didn't think about the sex, like nothing 1257 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 1: else about him is good but that and I would 1258 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: never cheat. I don't want to break up to be 1259 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: free to have sex with him. I know the grass 1260 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 1: ain't greener on the other side, I just want to 1261 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: stop thinking about him and his sex. 1262 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 2: Like, how do I do this? Miss thoughts larry me first? 1263 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 2: I mean, we could all talk about it. 1264 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's a conundrum. 1265 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 5: It's a conundrum because it's something specific that she wants. 1266 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I dated a guy that was also 1267 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 1: that The sex was great, but I also did not 1268 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 1: listen like. 1269 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 2: Listening to him talk. 1270 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: He would quote Kevin Samuels and stuff to me, and 1271 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: I was like, no, oh, this dude is an idiot girl. 1272 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 2: And he had to. 1273 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 4: Go How long did it last? 1274 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 1: Mmm? 1275 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,919 Speaker 2: How long did I bang him for? On and off? 1276 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 1: For like maybe like a year's time, maybe not even 1277 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 1: maybe not even a full year. 1278 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 2: Just Ninja Turtle beat me in. 1279 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but that was like I knew him for 1280 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 1: like over a year, but we actually hooked up for 1281 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, like, oh no, no, it was not And. 1282 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:30,919 Speaker 4: What made you stop seeing him? 1283 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 2: I didn't like him stupid he would. 1284 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 1: Talk and I'd be like, oh my god, even. 1285 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 2: The text messages off and shuch about and. 1286 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,439 Speaker 4: How did you deal with the fallout from not having 1287 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 4: that dick? Oh? 1288 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 2: I was fine. 1289 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 1: I had a backup and he wasn't the best. Oh yeah, yeah, comparable, great, 1290 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: but not excellent. No, no, no, it was it was 1291 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 1: great the person after or the person that replaced him with. 1292 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't think she can go back to the 1293 00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 5: other guy for sex. 1294 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. 1295 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 2: I think I think maybe cut communication clean. But she 1296 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 2: says she do like them. 1297 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 3: But we gotta we gotta detach ourselves from from the 1298 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 3: importance of sex. 1299 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 2: I think, I like, hmm, it has helped me. I like, 1300 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 2: I don't. I like it. 1301 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 3: It's good. I have a good time, but it's not 1302 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 3: a factor for me. I like, I could be with 1303 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 3: somebody and not have sex all the time, and I'll 1304 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:24,919 Speaker 3: be Okay. 1305 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 2: I want to be with somebody and not have good sex. No, no, 1306 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 2: I couldn't do that. 1307 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 3: But it's just because I've gone long periods without it 1308 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 3: and then got back into it and then got out. 1309 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 3: I was like, it's fine, it's cool, Like I enjoy it, 1310 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 3: but it's I'm not. It's not gonna make me do 1311 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 3: any more of these decisions. Like before last like last year, 1312 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 3: what I was doing, I was like just not even 1313 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 3: I don't even care about sex like this. 1314 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 2: Why am I fucking in New Jersey right now? It's 1315 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 2: just stupid. That is crazy. 1316 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 5: Maybe this person can invite the guy with good dick 1317 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 5: into the relationships. Then the other guy can watch how 1318 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 5: the good guy and that has been an amazing episode 1319 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 5: of mess because what the fuck? 1320 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 1: No, no, no, because he says that I have a partner, 1321 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 1: an amazing partner. 1322 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 2: He makes me feel loved, wanted, cared for. She keep 1323 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 2: thinking about that exactly, so then bringing the dick in? No, 1324 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 2: maybe bring the toys. Maybe. 1325 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 4: Sometimes good advice is hearing bad advice. 1326 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 1: And you know what, miss miss. 1327 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 5: She should I think she should really shake it up. 1328 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,919 Speaker 5: I think she should be messy. Invite the guy and 1329 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 5: the other guy gets a tutorial. Be okay, tell first 1330 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 5: guy it's more bad. Tell first guy, hey, you gotta 1331 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 5: go study up? Or is it about the equipment? Is 1332 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 5: he is it? 1333 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's maybe, but. 1334 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 5: She didn't mention that. She didn't say, like any that's 1335 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 5: the most perfect. 1336 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 1: No. 1337 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 2: I just said great at sex, best sex. 1338 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Honestly, he said first, she said good at sex, great 1339 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 1: at sex, best sex. Okay, make sure I come every time. 1340 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 1: It sounds like the other one's not making you come. 1341 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 4: Digmatized me, She's s digmatized. 1342 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, the other one has her heart, but the other 1343 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 3: one has her coach. 1344 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, sometimes totally. 1345 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1346 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 5: I feel like it's hard to give advice because gay 1347 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 5: men logic is so different. 1348 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 4: I don't have it, but it's like what I have 1349 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 4: to like live under. 1350 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,120 Speaker 2: What is game man logic? 1351 01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 5: Just see, there will always be more they'll like, There'll 1352 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 5: always be more dick, just like go open with your 1353 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 5: partner like the skies. If they don't like it, move on, 1354 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 5: you know, just there will always be more dick around 1355 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 5: the corner. 1356 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 2: There will always be on the shelf. 1357 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1358 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, But my thing is this, like I'm sure the 1359 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 1: sex is great, but you might. 1360 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,959 Speaker 2: Be remembering it better than what it. 1361 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 1: Is because that happened to me before, like best sex, 1362 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: great sex, And then I spin the block and I'm like, 1363 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 1: well I actually don't like this person, and now. 1364 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 4: Nostalgic sex. 1365 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes it's a. 1366 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 2: Quas Yeah, that's why I would go back that memory 1367 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 2: foam sex. 1368 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're eating the eggs and suddenly you're like, I'm 1369 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 5: eating the eggs. 1370 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 2: Do I even like? 1371 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 1: Ru? 1372 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? So you're in New Jersey. 1373 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 2: May all of these men that I've forgotten about rest 1374 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 2: in peace? 1375 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, maybe this was incredible. I really had a 1376 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 1: good time. Yeah, this was cute. 1377 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 2: Can you tell people where they can find you even 1378 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 2: though you're hiding? 1379 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 5: Yes, Hey, everyone, I still have live accounts at Larry 1380 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 5: Owens Live. 1381 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 4: Follow because there may be news and just thank you so. 1382 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 5: Much for having me. 1383 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, not you learned the voice. 1384 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 5: Valentine's Day, every line, My family to yours. It's been 1385 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 5: so wonderful to be here, my loving heart to yours. 1386 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 5: Wishing all of you New Yorkers. Angelina's out there, Chicago 1387 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:54,120 Speaker 5: and anyone listening. 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