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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about

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Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama Girl, all about them

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Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in

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Speaker 1: our comic Girl Cheering for the drama queens want go

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Speaker 1: up girl fashion, but you'll tough, girl. You could sit

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Speaker 1: with us. Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queen's DRAWNA Queen's Drama

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Speaker 1: Drawn MC Queen's Drama, Queen's al Right, Wow, Season three,

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Speaker 1: episode fIF team just watch the fireworks. Oh, it was

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Speaker 1: a lot of set up, but with some good stuff,

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Speaker 1: like really good at building anticipation this episode. I just

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Speaker 1: This is where we start to reconnect with Jimmy Edwards,

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Speaker 1: Peyton and Ellie's benefit concert hits the stage with honestly

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Speaker 1: and fallow Boy is back. Who yeah, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: a whole lot happening. Let's start with the time capsule

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Speaker 1: that be a senior thing? That is okay? So that's

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Speaker 1: something that has always bothered me about our show is

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Speaker 1: But we're but we're but we are seniors this year.

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Speaker 1: because I went with Daniel. There was like they were

427
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: having a concert in the Writer's office in l A.

428
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: And we were out there doing press for something. It

429
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: was like Teen Choice Awards or something dumb um not dumb,

430
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: something awesome. I just never won one, so fine be

431
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: gauys are done. Always not one of my little triggers

432
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: right there there it is God sometimes I was pop up.

433
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: So anyway, we're like out in l A. I visited

434
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: the writer's room one time in the entirety of my

435
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: run on the show, and when I got there, there

436
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: was a dark board with one actor's face on it,

437
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: and then there were screen grab like print outs of

438
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: other of us from like Daily's and like shots from

439
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: the show in our underwear and stuff like that and

440
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: what joy And I remember being like, what is that?

441
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: And it's like polaroids from wardrobe fittings like that. And

442
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: by the way, it was online so creepy, and you guys.

443
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: It was not until I went to work on White

444
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: Collar and I was in a van with all the

445
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: writers and I was just kind of like right now,

446
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: like we are right now, just kind of telling it

447
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: with like oh my god, and you guys won't believe

448
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: this and laughing about it that they like stopped me

449
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: and they were like, honey, you're so young, and we

450
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: have to interrupt you. This is dub And I was like,

451
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: what are we talking about. They're like, we've never heard

452
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: of anything like that before. That's insane. But yeah, if

453
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: but Sophia, had you done that in the pasties, there

454
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: would have been a screen grab of you in the

455
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: pasties on somebody and they would have like drawn on

456
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: the ads. But my bare chest would have been out

457
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: for the world to see. And I knew not to

458
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: trust them. And it's funny when you talk about our polaroids. Oh,

459
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: it makes me so ay um not only because we

460
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: had some some I'm not going to say fans are

461
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 1: fans are dope. The people who got um past the

462
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: line of being fans who had no boundaries, Um, I

463
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: don't know what to call them other than inappropriate. But

464
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, there were some people who did those email

465
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: hacks of Carol's yes and a lot of our fitting photos,

466
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: including a lot of photos of things that were being

467
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: emailed back and forth. Email got hacked. Sonogram photo was

468
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: released when I was pregnant. I remember that, and they

469
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: were Remember they were doing all that thing, emailing each

470
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: of us as each other, but they were like weird

471
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: Gmail accounts. I remember Lisa Goldstein one day coming into

472
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: work being like, hey, I caught your email about those photos,

473
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: but like I can't attach enough to the It keeps

474
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: saying it can't send the file, and I was like,

475
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? We go on a second.

476
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: This happened to me after I left the show, when

477
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: I with us I got hacked. Was that all part

478
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: of the same thing, all the same things? And I

479
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: mean it was very disturbing, like like photos of like

480
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: Austin's niece and nephew at bathtime got put on the internet.

481
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: Like things that were so inappropriate, and a lot of

482
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: our fitting photos, a lot of us in our underwear

483
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 1: wound up online and there's one photo all of that

484
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: made me enraged. I'm enraged thinking about it now. I

485
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: feel like our characters with the time Capsule being released

486
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: right now because I'm hearing this for the first time.

487
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: Well and by the way, maybe because we made no

488
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: big deal of the time Capsule, people thought that we

489
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't be upset about this or feel violated by this,

490
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: even though it's deeply violating. And the one bright spot

491
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: in this dark story is that there is a photo. Um,

492
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: I had to do this hilariously stupid episode in like

493
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: all these costumes Hilary after we left, and one was

494
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: like a full like leader hose and thing and obviously

495
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: being in it, like it's such a corset, and I

496
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: swear to you this thing like pushed my tits up

497
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: to my collar bones. And I took a photo for

498
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: Carol like holding my booze making this face that was

499
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: just like like you think this is great because I

500
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: knew I knew who was going to see it back

501
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: in l A. And I was just like, dud, I

502
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: know what you're doing so many people have shared that

503
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: photo and been like, this really seems out of character

504
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: for Quencia. What is she's standing like this? And I'm like, yeah,

505
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: because I'm trolling a pervert, trolling the pervert. No one

506
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: was supposed to see it except the pervert being trolled,

507
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: So now everyone is a pervert. But yeah, man, I

508
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: guess long story longer is I just don't like other

509
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: people having any non consensual images of any of us.

510
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: I think it's gross. Well, if you create something like

511
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: the time capsule, or like our photos or maybe our

512
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 1: private emails, where you think it's going to be between

513
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: you and one or two other people, it is real

514
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: shitty when they get released into the wild. And when

515
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: I left the show and started seeing Jeffrey, someone broke

516
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: into my email and took a picture of him and

517
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: I and released it. And then he got an email

518
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: from someone that was like, she's leaking photos of the

519
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: two of you because she's using you for attention or whatever. Yeah,

520
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: and I was really hurt by it because we were

521
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: new and I was really trying to convince himly no,

522
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: I was hacked. So you guys have validated a thirteen

523
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: year old wound all right, so deep dark. I the

524
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: emails that started coming in, we're so insane, And then

525
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: they started creating like, by the way, I don't have

526
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: any version of my name with without my middle name,

527
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: with without middle name numbers. Every version of my name

528
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: at Gmail is taken, as is yours, as is Joyce

529
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: and and quote unquote fans I will call them perpetrators. Um,

530
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: we're would figure out how to get people's emails. I

531
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: think once they were able to break into the writers

532
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: or whatever, they got everybody's and so they would do

533
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: this and it and it was really sad, like you know,

534
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: to get pictures like you said, of the two of

535
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: you as a new couple, of like me and my

536
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: then partner on vacation with like kids who were like

537
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: naked running around in the ocean, because those are sweet

538
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: photos for your family to have, but not for strangers.

539
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: Like there has to be a line, like joy when

540
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: you reminded me of what happened when you were pregnant

541
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: with Maria, it sends such a rage through me, like

542
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: I can't calm down about it. It's so nobody's posing business.

543
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: I remember coming to work. It was my first pregnant baby,

544
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: new and exciting, and I was young and like, yeah,

545
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: it was just a really precious private time in my life,

546
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: and you deserve to have that Briday sonogram, like people

547
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: could see the inside of my belly. Like I just

548
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: felt like such a violation it was. I'm sorry, that's yeah,

549
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: But you know what, compared to some of the other

550
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: things that people have had to deal with, that's really nothing.

551
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: Well for a kid like Jimmy Edwards that doesn't have

552
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: coping mechanisms and like he doesn't have a support group,

553
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: you know, like you could come to people and be

554
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: like this sucks to at least be together. Someone like

555
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy just has a target on his back now. And

556
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: especially because what you do believe just as you sharing

557
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: something like that with your family or you know, Hillary

558
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: to your point about you're actually a kid who kept

559
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: journals like I wish I had, and I think I

560
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: never did because I was always so afraid someone was

561
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: going to read them. And and this idea that the

562
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: time capsule is supposed to be kind of like a journal,

563
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: like it's going to be private the way that some

564
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: people vented Nathan vented about Haley and then was mortified

565
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: me is in such this dark place, feeling abandoned, and

566
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: he thinks it's a secret. And to have your your

567
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: secrecy and your privacy taken away from you, you know,

568
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: in real life or on screen, is so harmful. And

569
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: I mean you see him, like he gets attacked, he

570
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: gets beat up. It's it's like if if that had

571
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: not been released, you know, he had the chance in

572
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: private to act like somebody he wanted to be, or

573
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: be this guy he thought he was going to try,

574
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: and you know, he was like he was putting on

575
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: a personality for that video, and you could see it

576
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: even when he was lightening up his cigarette. It was

577
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: like he's trying to be somebody. He doesn't quite know

578
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: who or where he is yet, but he's on his

579
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: way and he's trying on all these things. And if

580
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: you can do that within the space of privacy, um

581
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: and control, that's fine. But to have that exposed, it's

582
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: just such a deep, vulnerable cut. It's your identity, it's

583
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: you're trying to you trying to figure out who you are. Yeah,

584
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: it's just so it's so awful, and he probably would

585
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: have been fine. Yeah, that's the thing. I hung out

586
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: with a lot of Jimmy Edwards in high school and

587
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: I loved them. I like the dark. You know, they

588
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: were angry, and I remember as a kid being like,

589
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: you guys are crazy, you know. And then we'd go

590
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: to poetry slams together and they would read their poetry

591
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: and it was lovely. And now they either like work

592
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: for the government or living on they're like our ends,

593
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, like they all have these like very adult,

594
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: functional jobs and lovely lives and they've come out of it.

595
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: But those moments of deep humiliation, I think are the

596
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: situations that make or break up person because some people

597
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: are able to crawl out of that and other people aren't. Humily,

598
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: humiliation for teenage boys is is probably the least under

599
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: stood emotion because anger we can figure out, you know,

600
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: with sadness your girlfriend dumps you, Okay, we can figure

601
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: that out. But humiliation there's something very specific about that

602
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 1: that we don't necessarily talk about the coping mechanisms for boys.

603
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: You know, Brooke Davis handled it right like this cute

604
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: girl is like I'm going to turn it into a thing.

605
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And I love that, But I will say

606
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: women are told to handle it, you know, like and

607
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: they're just like oh, get over it. You're being too sensitive.

608
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: And what makes me sad for our boys is that

609
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: essentially the only emotion we reward from boys is toughness,

610
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: and toughness is expressed in anger. So we teach boys

611
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: to channel all their feelings into anger to be respected.

612
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: But anger and loneliness really go hand in hand, yes,

613
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: and but it's so detrimental. And then you know, we

614
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: look around as this society and like, you know, not,

615
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm supposed to say trigger warning

616
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: or or what the thing is to bring up prior

617
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: to this, but I think that's so connected to why

618
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: we look around and we go, well, gee, why is

619
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: it that you know one and four girls has been assaulted,

620
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, sexually assaulted by the age of twenty two.

621
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, because we we don't give boys

622
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: anyway to be in the world except angry. And what

623
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: is the expression of anger. It's violence, Like and I

624
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 1: know that is a bit of an oversimplification to many

625
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: societal issues we have. But what I what I find

626
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: myself so drawn toward as an adult is healthy expressions

627
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: of emotion, where we give every person, whether it's a

628
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: group of us as women, or or our male friends,

629
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: or anyone the opportunity to experience the sliding scale of

630
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: their emotions from what we have societally deemed as traditionally

631
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: masculine to traditionally feminine, and to be like, where do

632
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: you find your sensitivity? Where do you find your empathy?

633
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: Where do you find your art? What? What is it

634
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: that makes you angry? What does that fuel? Rather than

635
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: where's a healthy place to express it? Because each of

636
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: those things, I don't I don't think that anger is

637
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: meant to just be suppressed and pushed down. It's a great,

638
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: important emotion. It informs you of so much. It's just

639
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: what you're doing with your anger that makes the difference. Yeah,

640
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: and you're right, a lot of people don't have a

641
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: space to put it, and they don't know where to

642
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: put it. Have you ever met boys that watched our show.

643
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: I'm still baffled when I meet grown men that are like, yeah,

644
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: I watched your whole show. I watched the whole series,

645
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: and I used to cry all the time that it's

646
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: so I mean, I don't know if it makes me

647
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: feel like a dinosaur that I'm like, oh boy, watched

648
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: our show gender norms. Um but I think they liked it.

649
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, go ahead. My husband loves

650
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: a show that will let him cry, yeah, and my

651
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: son loves to cry. Like. I think there were a

652
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: lot of boys whose sisters watched the show or girlfriends

653
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: in college, and so they kind of had the uh excuse,

654
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: like the social excuse. Oh yeah, well my girlfriend watched it,

655
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,959
Speaker 1: but basically really loved I loved even when our show

656
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: when it was on, and you know, boys are age

657
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: would be like yeah, you know. I always would remember

658
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: like the night at the bar where the guy would

659
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: be like, my girlfriend loves your show, like, and three

660
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: hours later he's three drinks deep and he's like and

661
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: then when Brooke Davis founded she couldn't get pregnant, man,

662
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: that really sucked me up. And they're like crying at

663
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: the bar and I'm like, this is great. I love this. This.

664
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: There was like a foreign military I can't remember what

665
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: country it was, but I remember getting all these letters

666
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: from some like foeign military where they're like, we're all

667
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: watching this show on bass and like their English was

668
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: very broken, but they were like, but we are very

669
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: invested in these in these little stories. It's like, well

670
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: that was one of the coolest things, popping around on

671
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: like different USO tours, like all over bases in Turkey

672
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: and Germany. Um, and you know, even the stuff we

673
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: did with the us SO guys closer to home in

674
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: Wilmington's like we were one of the I don't know

675
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: eight shows on the Armed Forces Network and really, oh

676
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: you guys, we were on a f N forever. I

677
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: don't know if we still are, but I loved when

678
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: we get those you know, once once we all got

679
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: on Twitter and stuff. You know, we get videos like

680
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: from guys on base like making up songs on their

681
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: guitars about our show, and I was like, I really

682
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: think this is great. Cute joyce a minute moral of

683
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: the stories. We like boys who are in touch with

684
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: their emotions. Yeah, we like we like healthy men. You know,

685
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: Lucas and Nathan in this episode, uh could have gotten

686
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: into a fight about the dan of it all because

687
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: we kick off the episode with Lucas you know, talking

688
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: down Yeah, and instead they get into this hallacious fight

689
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: as teammates to you know, break up this attack on

690
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: Jimmy Edwards. That fight was bananas. That was who are

691
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: those grown ass men who they brought it like those

692
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: were like thirty year old dudes. That was insane. Yeah,

693
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: for sure, those were supposed to be the seniors. Yeah,

694
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: these are high school boys. Get out of here. How

695
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: big is this school? I've never seen those kids before.

696
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: And Rachel's got her pepper spray. I loved that. Danielle

697
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: coming in with the peppers. Thought it was hair spray,

698
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: you did, Yeah, I totally thought she grabbed it off

699
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: the countertop in the back. It was like, which, by

700
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: the way, if you've ever shot pepper spray, you know,

701
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: it comes out of this really nasty like stream and

702
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: it's gross. They were definitely using like a water like

703
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: like an aviance. They painted a heavy on black. Yeah.

704
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: Also what I learned the hard way. I remember first

705
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: getting pepper spray and being like, well, I gotta know,

706
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: like how far does it go when I need to

707
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: use it? No one warns you that, like, yes, it

708
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: shoots forward, but it also creates a cloud. It definitely

709
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: choked you too lightly. I went, I was like burning

710
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: all over and just like hacking, coughing. I was like, cool, cool, Okay,

711
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: when did you have to use pepper spray just for fun?

712
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: I just I when I first got like my first

713
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: pepper spray. I was like, I'm going to shoot this

714
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: out into the distance, like, yeah, I wanted to test it.

715
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: I just wanted to know what I was outside with

716
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: the wind too. I just was like outside, I y'all,

717
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: I did not. It did not end well for me.

718
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: Chet the wind before you check your pepper sprayers. My

719
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: sister's My sister has two boys, and one of them

720
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: sprayed the other week face with bear spray bears. It was, oh, yeah,

721
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: for sure. It was a whole thing. I mean, my

722
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 1: daughters standing here, She's got her mouth wide open. No way, yeah,

723
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: Nathan Spratt, Dylan, Yeah, so we the pepper spray only

724
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: hit the wrestlers in our scene, but didn't get Nathan,

725
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: didn't get Jimmy. Get Jimmy. It's because it was heavy

726
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: on my god, because whoever decided to punch the hole

727
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: in the column paper wall is also the person that

728
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: created the basic container exactly. I mean, I like Rachel's

729
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: interactions in this episode because they are very on brand,

730
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: and I like that she searches Jimmy out. But there's

731
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: also kind of a lesson in that where you know,

732
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: if we're all trying to act too cool and cavalier.

733
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: What Rachel saying is like, you know, it wasn't for you. Yeah, No,

734
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't here to protect you. Had she

735
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: just let him think ink that yeah, yeah, he could

736
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: have gone home and like, you know, not freaked out. Yeah,

737
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: I wondered why, And part of me thought when she

738
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: said that, I thought, Okay, what's the mask they're giving her.

739
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: Why doesn't she want to admit that she doesn't like

740
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: to see people get hurt and what's the purpose of

741
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: her saying this to him? And then obviously we think

742
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: about how far he's meant to be pushed for the

743
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: next episode. So but it definitely did stick out to

744
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: me a little bit. And maybe it's just because I

745
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: know Danielle is like the most caring depends, so I'm like, oh, Ryant,

746
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: she's too nice. Um, But yeah, it was so flippant

747
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: and like honest, and then she goes and gives that

748
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: cutting It wasn't honest, no, but she said it sorry,

749
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: you're right, not honest, very frank like she spoke to

750
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: him very frankly girl. Yeah, And I was like, but why,

751
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: especially then when she goes and says what she says

752
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: to mouth, like she really had a chip her shoulder.

753
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: It's very like John Hughes, like going back with Gus

754
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: and watching Breakfast Club. No, it does not hold up

755
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: the twelve year old audiences like these people are disgusting, right,

756
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: And I thought for sure he was gonna love Judd

757
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: apatat or not jut apta Judd. I really thought he

758
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: would think, like, oh, that guy's cool. And Gus was repulsed,

759
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: which I hadn't seen the movie and you know, fifteen

760
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: twenty years, so I'd forgotten it is repulsive. And Rachel

761
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: is kind of behaving like that. She's behaving like this

762
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: kind of cartoony nineteen eighties. I'm going to say, like

763
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: the cool thing to say, and the lesson is that

764
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: when you think you're being cool, you could be incredibly damaging.

765
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: She's being really damaging here with out knowing it well.

766
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: It was in the context of that speech with mouth,

767
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: it felt like she was It felt she was trying

768
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: to put him in his place or keep him in

769
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: his place or something, which that just is what felt

770
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: strange about it, Like because she on the heels of

771
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: that goes right to mouth and she's like, listen, he's

772
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: either going to sink or swim, and it's not up

773
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: to you to save him. You know, you guys all

774
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: graduated to hang out with the popular crowd. The elite girls.

775
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: Heard elite girls, but you know, someone doesn't jackets with

776
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: elite girls on it, Pink ladies. You know what. I

777
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: like what you're saying, their joy And it's interesting because

778
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: it jogs my sense memory of scenes that Daniel and

779
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: I have later when Brooke finds out that Rachel used

780
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: to be, you know, for categorizing these kids, Rachel used

781
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: to be kind of a Jimmy Edwards. And she, you know,

782
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: by the way, we all have issues with the storyline,

783
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: we'll get to when we get to it. But she,

784
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, for better or worse, transformed herself to be,

785
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote her name, an elite girl. And

786
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: in a way, what I realized now, only because I

787
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: have the experience of having done the material with her,

788
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: is that she's beginning to foreshadow that she was willing

789
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: to cut out her whole life. Yeah that's great. You

790
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: know that she's like, suck it up, this is what

791
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: it is, and you've got to do the work. And

792
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, whoa what is that there's darkness

793
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: there and it feels strange, and I I'm wondering if

794
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: that's what this was meant to be, like a foreshadowing

795
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: of learning that Rachel Gettina wasn't always you know, the

796
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: girl we've met in Tree Hill. It came off as

797
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: jealous to me, like that she was being territorial of Mouth.

798
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: Because if Nathan and Hailey are at this club night

799
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: together and Brooke and hate her being super cute, and

800
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: Lucas and Mouth are having this night with their old buddy,

801
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: nobody's talking to Rachel, you know, and she's just like

802
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: Pete all over Mouth's leg in the last couple episodes.

803
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: So it just it's weird when you see jealousy out

804
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: of someone that you wouldn't expect, where you're like, oh,

805
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: I thought you had the whole world by the tale,

806
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: Why are you being a weirdo? It is also what

807
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: you were saying so about her feeling like I did

808
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: the work. That's also very human nature, right like when

809
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: if we feel like we've done the work, we've been

810
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: able to fight through whatever we had to fight through

811
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: in order to get to point from point A to

812
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: point B. So if I could do it, You can

813
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: do it, and there's no reason you can't. And that

814
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: also creates a divide. It creates discompassionate, It creates loneliness,

815
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: It creates anger and jealousy and frustration because there's always

816
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: going to be another level that you're trying to get

817
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: to and you're having difficulty, but somebody else has reached

818
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: that level and they're looking at you saying you should

819
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: be able to do it. So there's a constant bad

820
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: cycle that comes from that kind of mindset. Yeah. Well,

821
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 1: and I think that's one of the things you have capability,

822
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's the tools or the capabilities I

823
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: suppose to do as an adult is to say, oh wow,

824
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: I can see what's going on with you, and I

825
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: can also see my reaction to it, yeah, and see

826
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: what what triggers me or where my expectations lie. And

827
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: at sixteen or seventeen years old, like, you can't do that, No,

828
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: you can't understand. Everybody goes at their own pace. No,

829
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: somebody pushes your buttons then and you're just like, what

830
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: are you doing? And there's no parents to pick us up? Right,

831
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: drives home, We'll be like this happened, this happened. This happened,

832
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: and somebody's parents would be like, well, you guys, there's

833
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: no parent driving home on our show. It would be

834
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: Karen and Keith. But you know they're all busy getting

835
00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: all engaged. The kissing being cute. Yeah, you were so

836
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: cute in that scene, Sophia jumping up and down and

837
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: squirling and like wrapping them up in your arms. Can

838
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: I make your wedding dress. I'm sixteen years old, please please, please,

839
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: please please. I remember that. I remember how fun that was.

840
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: I like, I have a visceral like sense memory right

841
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: of hugging you and Moira, just like yeah, and it was, Oh,

842
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: it's so fun. I just remember that whole episode being

843
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: so fun and even for you and I like you

844
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: hosting and us being off to the side of the

845
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: Trick stage all night. I remember that. I remember, dude,

846
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: we had a little water bottle full of vodka and

847
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,959
Speaker 1: we like like it was a real club night hanging

848
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: out on the side of the stage. It wasn't real.

849
00:48:52,440 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 1: Sun Kissed, oh Man kissed wherever you are. Thank you

850
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: for paying our bills, thank you for funding our show.

851
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: And stunt Kiss traveled all the bands out because that

852
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: was expensive. Also, Jack's mannequin speaking of the band still hits. Yes,

853
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: you remember how excited we were the Dark Blue song

854
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: and get It Forever Forever. It's such a good album. Cool,

855
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: and it was so important to have an artist there

856
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: that backed up with the with the you know, charity

857
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: work of the show was all of the cancer research

858
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: that we were fictionally and also realistically trying to support. Um. Yeah,

859
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: I really liked hanging out with those guys and it

860
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: we were like in a bubble. So I was still

861
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: really nervous that we had these school kids coming to visit. Yeah, same,

862
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: because we weren't you know, we weren't working in La

863
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: or New York work where every weekend you go to

864
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: a show where you meet somebody from this or that. Like,

865
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: it was just us. It was the nine of us

866
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: and our crew and like the college kids in town.

867
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: And so when a band that we loved would come

868
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: to visit, like, it's probably still I don't know how

869
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: to be cool and rooms full of people, I like,

870
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm just like, wow, you may get this, and everyone's

871
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: like please, like stop, you have to stop. But I

872
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: just remember we were so geeked and and truly like

873
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: for me. You know. This was also around us stage

874
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: where I was beginning to work for nonprofits and really

875
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: find my voice, like my early voice as an advocate.

876
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: You know. I started working on my first political campaigns

877
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: in oh seven. This was Andrew. Andrew was such an

878
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: inspiration to me. I was like, whoa, You've used your

879
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: art and like who you are as a human to

880
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: advocate for this thing that's important to you? Like you're

881
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: allowed to do that. Everybody tells me I was supposed

882
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: to keep my mouth shout about politics and about causes,

883
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: Like what do you mean just stand there and take

884
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: your kid, Yeah, just stand there and look cute and

885
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: write a check to your charity. I was like no,

886
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: and he really, he really kind of was an early

887
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: inspiration for a different way, uh to advocate to me.

888
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's funny. I haven't thought about that in

889
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: a really long time, but it's kind of all it's

890
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: all coming back to me now. We need to hang

891
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: out with that dude again, coming bag. Those days were

892
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: long long because it was all I mean, how many

893
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: bands there were three three songs, three bands and you

894
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: have to shoot it from twenty seven my song Jack's

895
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: Mannekin and Fallout Boy, and you so Okay, so three songs.

896
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: Your song was so good, Joy, it's a good song. Yeah,

897
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: that's the number one requested song from you in this

898
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: with your long hair. I like all of it too.

899
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: I love you guys for saying that. I was saying

900
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: while we were watching it. It's so cringe e to me.

901
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: It's like watching a musical theater kid try and do

902
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 1: rock and roll but it's just cringe e and not working. Um,

903
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: I don't wrong, but whatever, I loved it. I loved it.

904
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: It's like I also loved I loved you, like putting

905
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: that little gravel in your voice. And I don't know, man,

906
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: it gave me. It just gave me vibes. I don't know.

907
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: Something itself is great. It's more just the whole the

908
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: stage performance. It's like I hadn't quite figured out how

909
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: to I didn't have like a stage presence. I didn't

910
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: know what I wanted to put out there. Yeah, it's

911
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: not like they got you like a choreographer, Joy. Yeah,

912
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: nobody was crafting anything. It would like just go stand

913
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: up there and like, you know, move around. I'm like, okay,

914
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: this could be so much cooler, but here Here's the

915
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: thing that probably affected me most in this episode is

916
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: the speech that Haley gives Nathan where she says, I

917
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: am afraid to love it again, and I'm afraid for

918
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: you to see me love it because I have felt

919
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: that in my life where it's like I gotta tamp

920
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: down my excitement because I don't want to threaten anybody.

921
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: And it's such a specifically female saying. If you're an

922
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: ambitious female, to feel like you have to our normal

923
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: gender roles are like, oh no, I'm going to be

924
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: the caretaker. I will handle the homestead if you will

925
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: um this idea that Haley is vocalizing, I'm afraid for

926
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: you to see me love it is. Yeah, I loved it.

927
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: You did such a good job with that. Thank you.

928
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: It is And and they really have gotten so good

929
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: at this point in writing for you and James, They've

930
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: they've dialed in Nathan and Haley in a way you

931
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: guys get to volley. The dialogue is really good. It's

932
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 1: really connected, it's well thought out. You get to play

933
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: inside of it because it's good. You're not trying to

934
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: force the material to make sense. It does. And so

935
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: when you get vulnerable with him in that way and

936
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: all of us goes oof. We felt that when he

937
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: then comes back and says, I'm scared, I'm scared to

938
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: be vulnerable with you, and you realize that these two

939
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: people are they're going through the same experience. They're just

940
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: each on a different end, you know, of a distance

941
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: looking at each other across it. It was so it

942
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: was just so nice. I thought they did a beautiful

943
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: job giving you guys the the space cross scenes to

944
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: really make that conversation so impactful. Yeah. I like that

945
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: they took the time to really bring them back together

946
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: and draw that out. It's fun. I haven't seen that

947
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: a lot in TV. I guess where a couple gets

948
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: together almost right a but then they they actually have

949
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: to spend the majority of the time trying to find

950
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: their way back to each other. After it's like a

951
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: fast to get together and then a fast fallow part

952
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: and then you know, the long stretch of time to

953
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: find their way back to each other, which is how

954
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: it happens sometimes. I think that's really interesting. What was

955
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: that show Divorce? What was that show The Girlfriend's Guide

956
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: to Divorce? She hooke up with ther ex husband on

957
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: that show, which is so much more taboo than hooking

958
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: up with like a new guy, you know, the idea

959
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: that Nathan is your husband but also like your ex

960
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: because you guys didn't kind of break up a little bit. Um. Yeah,

961
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: I liked. I'm glad that they brought back the two

962
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: little boys, the Dan, the young Dan and Keith, because

963
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: when it first showed up a couple episodes ago, it

964
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: felt so strange. It was like, why are we doing

965
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: a flashback with these two kids? And I see now

966
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: that they're trying to thread a device for the next

967
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: little while. Um, So I don't know. I'm just glad

968
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: that they tied it in with something that wasn't just

969
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: totally random. I used to see that happen. Um. But

970
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of build up there with

971
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: Dan and Keith. Interesting too, to see how they brought

972
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: in the storyline that Dan was the one that got

973
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: bullied pretty consistently as a kid, and Keith came to

974
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: his rescue, and Dan grew up to be a bully.

975
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: And while you're watching this man, you know, who's forty

976
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: or however old, he has deal with what happened to

977
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: him as a kid. You see a teenager dealing with

978
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: the ways he has felt bullied or ostracized, and it's

979
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: it's an interesting device they're using to kind of show

980
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 1: you the ways that, um, what we go through as kids,

981
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, to your point earlier, the humiliation um, whether

982
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: it's real or perceived, by the way how it affects us,

983
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 1: because you know, Lucas and Mouth make that great point

984
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: to Jimmy, like, dude, we're sorry, but you didn't call

985
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: us either. You know, you kind of dropped off too.

986
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: And it's it's that question that we ask, you know,

987
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: how much of a responsibility do kids have to like

988
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: pull others with them, and how much of a responsibility

989
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: do kids have to figure out how to overcome their obstacles?

990
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: You know who whose whose responsibility is it? And it's

991
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: interesting to see all of these ways that it can

992
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: turn out represented by these characters. Well, moral of a

993
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: story is, if you are in high school and middle school, UM,

994
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you should be listening to our podcast

995
00:57:53,960 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: because it's kind of round sometimes, but you are episode yes, yes,

996
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: and you're sitting in such a lovely velvet tone. Ladies

997
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. There are a lot of bombs dropped in

998
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: the particular episode at your own risk. But if you are,

999
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: you know, and you see somebody who's sitting alone at

1000
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: lunch or they seem like an outcast, go be a

1001
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: friend to them. Let you know, let go of whatever

1002
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: your social priority is for the day and just make

1003
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: an effort on occasion or you know, as often as

1004
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: feels natural to you to go and be friends someone

1005
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: who looks like they need it. And if you're grown

1006
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: up like us and you have children, um teach that

1007
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: to your children. And if you don't have children then

1008
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: and even if you do have children, you should be

1009
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: doing it yourself and leading by example to be like, yeah,

1010
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: if you have kids, you're off the hook. Kids. You

1011
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: got to ask specific questions. That's that's don't ask them

1012
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: if they're fine, be like, what's going on with Susie,

1013
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: what's going on with Todd? What's going over? So you

1014
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: gotta be specific at pickup, drive your kids, everywhere and

1015
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: be specific as possible. All right, what we got, we

1016
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: got questions. I like it when people are specific with me.

1017
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: By the way, just as a little asterisk on that specificity,

1018
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: you love. It is a love language, you know. It's

1019
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: also a love language for us when you all send

1020
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: us cute questions. We like them. I don't know how

1021
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: I feel about this question. What is it? Say? Okay, yeah,

1022
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: it's from Sasha. She says, was the Peyton and Pete

1023
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: went storyline? Your idea, Hillary, And if it wasn't, were

1024
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: you majorly surprised? It became a thing you guys. Okay, Look,

1025
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: if we were going to be able to request what

1026
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: singers we were going to get to make out with

1027
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: on our show, we would have had way more power.

1028
00:59:54,920 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: You also would have requested like Pad Benatar. Yeah, to

1029
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: be clear, to be clear. Um yeah, I mean, look,

1030
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: I I like Pete. He's a sweet dude. Um he Yeah.

1031
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: At the time, he was with a buddy of mine.

1032
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: I had worked at MTV with Ashley Simpson and was

1033
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: obsessed with her. She's so fun, She's like the nicest girl.

1034
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: I really liked hanging out with her, and so when

1035
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: they were like, Oh, her boyfriend's gonna come on and

1036
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna kiss him. To be perfectly honest, I was

1037
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: weird about it because I was like, is she coming?

1038
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: Like I probably would have been more comfortable kissing her. So, Um, No,

1039
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't my idea, but we had a good time.

1040
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: And Pete was very respectful, you know, like the last

1041
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: time we talked about Pete and I was like, yeah,

1042
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: this storyline is inappropriate. When the news outlets pick up

1043
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: our stories from the podcast and then just aheadline, I'm like, guys,

1044
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: you gotta give context. Um, you weren't saying he was inappropriate,

1045
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: Like we never said that. It's so annoying, like Pete

1046
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: an adult kissing a high schooler. Yeah, not so great

1047
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: right now, that storyline. Um, But Pete Wentz was a

1048
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: doll and so respectful, never crossed a line. Um, good dude,

1049
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: you know who. I loved seeing Pete bond with Jojo. Yes,

1050
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: she washed his hair. She washed his hair for him

1051
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: one day and he was just like in that bowl

1052
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: getting his head massage, and I was like, this cute

1053
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: whatever this is in the corner, like I can't. It

1054
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: was precious ant well, because she always hung out with

1055
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: bands in Atlanta when she was in her twenties and

1056
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: bar attending and so she just right and so she

1057
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: just get right down into into bar talk and like

1058
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Speaker 1: band talk. And he was like, oh, okay, ask him

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01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: about amps, and yeah, alright, Lenny wants to know there

1060
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: are so many iconic love quotes in O t H.

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Speaker 1: If you were writing wet Ean vows, what would be

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01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:09,479
Speaker 1: a quote that you would use? No pressure. This isn't

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01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: an iconic love quote, but I do really love the

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01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: quote at the end of this episode from Whitey saying

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01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: that the journey is the destination. Um. That seems very

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01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: applicable to a wedding vowel. Yeah, that makes because that's

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01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: a whole life. You know, you're you're embarking on a journey.

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01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: You don't want to get to the end of it. Yeah.

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01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: Is it cryptic if I say that quote from Ellie

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01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: Every song ends? But is that anything? What a twisted

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01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: thing to say. Can you imagine being at a wedding

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01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: if someone used that, you would be like like a toast.

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01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: That's the drunk cousin toast. Every song ends. There's no

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01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: reason not to take this journey. Oh my god, I

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01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: hope I hope someone uses that. God bless you guys,

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01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: these are going to I will say it was. I

1077
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,919
Speaker 1: will always be nostalgic about the fact that, like when

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01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: we were prepping our whole ceremony and working with our officiant, like,

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01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, there's a reality that your your story is

1080
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: being told, and I was just like, I'm pretty excited

1081
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: I get to talk about my friends in our story.

1082
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,479
Speaker 1: So like when when Lorie was giving our overviews about

1083
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: like Grant's life in my life, and like the mention

1084
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: of y'all came up. I'll never forget, like standing at

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01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: the altar but then looking over my shoulder and we

1086
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: just did our little thing, and I was like, this

1087
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: is this is fist pumped at your wedding ceremony and

1088
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: you were like like joy And I put in in

1089
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: season eight when we did the Brook and Julian wedding,

1090
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: like you and I at the speech did this little

1091
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: like that thing that everyone's like scripted, and I'm like, no,

1092
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: that was just me enjoy. And so I turned back

1093
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: at you guys, and we were all just pointing at

1094
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: each other like, oh my god, it's real, it's real.

1095
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: We totally sat on the wrong side by the way

1096
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: we were supposed to. I always thought it was the

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01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: opposite side. So we walked down the island. We were like, wait, no,

1098
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: I think we have to go on the right. We

1099
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: should sit on the right. And we sat on the

1100
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: right and then your face, your back was to us.

1101
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: I was like, doesn't. I was looking at the dress.

1102
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: I love you so much. I was looking at that

1103
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: I was on the right side. That son's always so

1104
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: funny to me. And we realized it when we got

1105
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: up there, like we put our parents on opposite sides,

1106
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: because I was like, his parents should be able to

1107
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: see his face. My parents should be able to see

1108
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: my face. But we didn't think about like for the

1109
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: hubbub that it was of like how are we gonna

1110
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: get Grandma Ethel in her seat? And how will my

1111
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: mom know where to go? And then like we're up

1112
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: there and luckily, you know, his best friends would become

1113
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: my best friends. But I'm standing there doing my vows,

1114
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: just looking at his whole bridal party and realizing that

1115
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: all of my bridal parties staring at my back. You

1116
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: guys were staring at my back. I was like, we

1117
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: didn't plan enough of this. I was it was perfect.

1118
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: I loved it. You know what I liked seeing I

1119
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: liked being able to look at his face and see

1120
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: how and love he was with that. And you know,

1121
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: that's what the friends are there for, really, is to

1122
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: make sure this guy is going to do what he's

1123
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: supposed to do. As your husband and you could tell

1124
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: every inch of it in his face. He's I do

1125
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: that too, Like I remember, you know, even at your

1126
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: wedding hill. Like the minute I saw you, I was like,

1127
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,479
Speaker 1: I need to look in Jeffrey's eyes right now. Yes, Yeah,

1128
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: he was like holding George and like he was like

1129
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: handling children. He was. It was so sweet because he

1130
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: was he was like holding a baby and like weeping,

1131
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, weeping exactly, That's exactly what should

1132
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: be happening right now. Boys, boys, cuties. I love them. Well,

1133
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: thanks everybody, we're here, and uh, get you on your way.

1134
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: What do we got today? Most likely to go Hillary,

1135
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: what's it gonna be? Most likely to completely lose it

1136
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: on a roller coaster? That's so weird. I realized Yesterday

1137
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: has never been on a roller coaster, and I was

1138
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: showing him videos of Bush Gardens Williamsburg because that was

1139
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: the theme park we went to growing up, and he

1140
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: was like, Mom, I have to go on these roller coasters.

1141
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: So I feel like in the next month or two,

1142
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: we're about to make some poor choices. So it's gus

1143
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: in real life. Then, Yeah, he's so pumped, but he's

1144
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: not gonna lose it. He's pretty, he's pretty even Stephen

1145
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: um okay, who would lose it? Who's a hysterical person?

1146
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: Who would lose it? I would like, I don't know

1147
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: about lose it. But the person who's like no, no,

1148
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: no commentary I would like to hear on a roller

1149
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: coaster is Antoine. Antoine because the best part about Antoine

1150
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: is that he talks a very big game and then

1151
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: it's just like, hold up, well, we don't actually want

1152
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: to do this, right? He would he would like get

1153
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: us to go to bars with him and be like,

1154
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna stay out till four in the morning, and

1155
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: then at like twelve thirty he'd be like, so we're good, right,

1156
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: Like we did it. I think it's Antoine. I think

1157
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: it's skills in the show, and it's Antoine real life.

1158
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: You know what I will say as a follow up

1159
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: to this that I love if y'all have not gone

1160
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole of the videos of people passing

1161
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: out on roller coasters, do yourself a favor. Jenny like

1162
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: sent me down some TikTok rabbit hole of this, and

1163
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: like people who get launched in those things and they're

1164
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: screaming and then they faint and they come to and

1165
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: they're screaming and then they faint like it is the funniest.

1166
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: If you are having a bad day, just look up

1167
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: people fainting on roller coasters. It's chefs kiss. This is

1168
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: how everyone can spend the rest of their week until

1169
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: our next episode drops. We got you great, You've just

1170
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: given me something to Maria to do next time she's poored. Yeah,

1171
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: good luck everybody. All right, We love you guys. We'll

1172
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: see you next week. See you next week. Hey, thanks

1173
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,000
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1174
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,120
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1175
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1178
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