1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio News, The. 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Stock Movers Report, your roundup of companies making moves in 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: the stock market, harnessing the power of Bloomberg Data. 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm Carol Masser, a longer Tim Statick. Let's get to 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: some stocks on the move on this Friday with us 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: as Bloomberg News crosss that reported Danizza Sikova. You know, 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: sometimes I just have to stop talking. You should start talking, though. 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: No, But I want to talk about the competition. The 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: competition in AI is heating up. Meta platform shares are 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 3: down four percent today. That's the biggest drops in October. 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 3: Of course, we had that New York Times report about 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: their so called Avocado model that is being delayed. But 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: metabit made a big splash, all those big hires, you know, 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: all the pay packages were absolutely so they made this. Yeah, 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 3: they made this big campaign and now there is this 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: delay there. Unlyst is saying that they maybe are going 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: to license Jamine similarly to what Apple does. Really, yeah, 18 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: that's something that's circulating. But it's interesting because obviously they 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: spend all that much money and now there is a delay. 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: Vital Knowledge is saying this report will raise further questions 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: about the objectives of meta AI spending. So investors are 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 3: not too excited about this delayed today, but you know, 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: maybe if it indeed is delivered in a few months, 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: maybe everything will be fine. Lots of competition open AI. 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 4: It's interesting seeing that move based on this report because 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: that is a significant move. 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: Flower. 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so meta platforms on your radar? What else 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 4: you watching? 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: We're looking at Adobe and of course we're talking about 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: the AI race, and it hasn't been nice to software 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: company and Adobe ticker ADB shares fill as much as 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: eight percent in earlier trading. The stock is on twenty 34 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: seven percent here today. Of course, Adobe has Photoshop in 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: design all those super complicated products to edit video audio, 36 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: but now with AI, we have much simpler ways to 37 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: achieve those things. And some of those software are pretty expensive. 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: And we've saw a lot of the names like Salesforce 39 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: at Last, you know, all of those have been under 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: a lot of pressure and Adobe is just just the 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: next onund to be part of it. And now we 42 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: see the CEO slipping down who has actually seen a 43 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: lot of success under his name, Wow at Adobe. But 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: the air revolution is changing everything. 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: Can't there just be an AI version of Adobe like 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: or is it just. 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: That is the concern? I mean because the software as 48 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 4: a services company has been using AI for years, the firefla, 49 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: they've come on our show to talk about, why can't 50 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: they just be well, I think the concern Well, so 51 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: there's a few different things here. It's a software as 52 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 4: a service company, so you know, companies pay the recurring revenue. 53 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 4: If you can do some of the things you do 54 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 4: with products that Adobe makes, like if you can do 55 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: certain things with AI that you don't necessarily need Photoshop 56 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: for anymore, that's a threat to the company's business. But 57 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: the company's embracing AI. And in the press release yesterday that, 58 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 4: like you said, also announced that that and Ryan would 59 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 4: be stepping aside and the new CEO would be coming in. 60 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: They did say, this is a company that we're building 61 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 4: for the AI era. 62 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: I just do wonder, right, like, I don't know, we'll see. 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: I just feel like there's going to be vertical winners 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: in terms of specific sectors of the market. But what 65 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: do I know. 66 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: I think all the one stop shops are winning, and 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 3: all the kind of morniche shops are clearly under pressure. 68 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: Or maybe to your point, care. 69 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: But that's what I think. The niche shops at some 70 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: point are going to have a very specific data set 71 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: that's going to be powerful rather than that broad base 72 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: of data. 73 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 4: Or maybe some analysts have pointed out that it's over sold. 74 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: The concern not I'm not talking about specifically. That's sort 75 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 4: of like the so called SaaS apocalypse and that people. 76 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: We saw something buying there. A lot of people are 77 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: being turning up optimistic. 78 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: Talk about as I can say, just twiska decoproprium. 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: You can say, what, wow, that's oppressive. 80 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: Apparently I can't. Boy do I feel like it's Friday 81 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: talked about ALTA. I thought like this was safe. 82 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was it was supposed to be a safe bed. 83 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: Failtheen percent today it's actually a pretty big reaction. The 84 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: company offered guidance for the current year that was toward 85 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: the lower end of what anlysts we're expecting. Alists we're 86 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: expecting about three points half percent, and their range is 87 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: a little bit lower than that. But neverthless, we're seeing 88 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: a massive reaction. But that company has been on a tier. 89 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: The company has doubled over the past year, so perhaps 90 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: we're seeing part of the reaction is coming from that 91 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 3: that says, Udha has been doing okay. They've been expanding 92 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: in many regions. 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