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Speaker 2: The Rams roll the Vikings twenty seven to nine. We
Speaker 2: normally skew negative after a game like this because the
Speaker 2: season is over for Minnesota. I do want to give
Speaker 2: the Rams their props here, because just because we don't
Speaker 2: know who some of your players are doesn't mean you
Speaker 2: don't have a really good team. And when it comes
Speaker 2: to that Rams defense, they're not household names like they
Speaker 2: were when they won a Super Bowl. They do have
Speaker 2: some offensive firepower. They have a well known head coach.
Speaker 2: But that was a great team performance last night, shutting
Speaker 2: down the Vikings twenty seven to nine. They sacked Sam
Speaker 2: Donald nine times, and you get the feeling the Rams
Speaker 2: probably looked at what the Detroit Lions did when they
Speaker 2: faced the Vikings the previous game, and that is we're
Speaker 2: going after Sam Darnald. We're going to put as much
Speaker 2: pressure on Sam Donald as possible, and it certainly worked
Speaker 2: against the Lions, and the blueprint worked last night. Sam
Speaker 2: Donald was uncomfortable the entire evening and after the game
Speaker 2: he spoke about his play. At the end of the season.
Speaker 3: You know, I clearly just didn't play good enough the
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, you know, left too many throws
Speaker 3: out there that I would usually make and got to
Speaker 3: take better care of the football today especially, you know,
Speaker 3: I feel like I can be a lot better in
Speaker 3: terms of just moving on. My progression is not trying
Speaker 3: to force anything. And but yeah, again, I give them
Speaker 3: a lot of credit for the way they came out,
Speaker 3: they played and the plan that they had.
Speaker 2: The Rams tight an NFL playoff record with nine sacks
Speaker 2: in a playoff game. The Titans did that in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, the Chiefs nineteen ninety three, the Browns in
Speaker 2: eighty six, the Niners back in eighty four. At the
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty six Buffalo Bills, it felt like every time
Speaker 2: Sam Darnald was sacked, money was coming out of his pockets.
Speaker 2: It was like, damn, there's a there's another million dollars,
Speaker 2: there's another million dollars. Poor Sam, what's going on? They
Speaker 2: put pressure on him, and I would have thought that
Speaker 2: they would have expected this from the Rams. And the
Speaker 2: Rams are a young team, you know, aside from Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 2: they are one of the younger teams in the NFL.
Speaker 2: And they are one of those teams at the end
Speaker 2: of the year that we thought, boy, you don't want
Speaker 2: to face them come playoff time. It felt like them
Speaker 2: and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Well, Tampa got kicked to
Speaker 2: the curb. But here are the Rams, and the Rams
Speaker 2: will have the Philadelphia Eagles coming out. And in case
Speaker 2: you're wondering, the Rams are getting six against the Eagles,
Speaker 2: the Texans getting seven and a half against the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: This according to DraftKings. The Commander's getting nine and a
Speaker 2: half against the Lions, and the Ravens are a one
Speaker 2: and a half point favorite against the Buffalo Bills. All right, Seaton,
Speaker 2: pull question here, and then we'll go back to the game.
Speaker 2: We'll also talk about the Cowboys situation with Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 2: who is now free at last to talk to other teams,
Speaker 2: and we'll ask the question, don't know if we have
Speaker 2: an answer to it, will Mike McCarthy be a head
Speaker 2: coach in the NFL next season? All right, seton, you
Speaker 2: know what?
Speaker 4: Just quickly off the last night's game too.
Speaker 2: It was so brutal.
Speaker 4: Every time Sam Donald made a mistake or got sacked
Speaker 4: or did something, they would immediately cut to Kevin O'Connell's face,
Speaker 4: let's get the coach's reaction to what we just saw.
Speaker 4: And then they would sort of pingpong back and forth
Speaker 4: between Sam Donald's just looking shell shocked, like what's happening
Speaker 4: and Kevin O'Connell being like, oh my god, this is awful.
Speaker 2: Was JJ McCarthy on the sidelines because I kept thinking,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna show sideline reaction, just give me the
Speaker 2: quarterback and waiting here and trying to figure out, now,
Speaker 2: what do you do because you can't throw thirty Sam
Speaker 2: Donald had a wonderful year, maybe the comeback player of
Speaker 2: the year, but you have thirty five touchdown passes, what
Speaker 2: did you have twelve or thirteen interceptions? He played great.
Speaker 2: I would like to have seen justin Jefferson's reactions as
Speaker 2: well with everything that was going on, because if you're
Speaker 2: the best wide receiver in the league and you're probably
Speaker 2: going is this as good as we can get? Because
Speaker 2: you don't know what you have in JJ McCarthy. Now
Speaker 2: they think they know because they drafted him high but
Speaker 2: went out with the knee injury, and now what do
Speaker 2: you do with Sam Darnold, Sam Donald, apologists, Pauly PEPs.
Speaker 5: Yes, Paul Weirdly I was thinking about this. The Vikings
Speaker 5: may have benefited by the loss yesterday because three weeks
Speaker 5: ago they had to bring Sam Donald back, whether it
Speaker 5: be franchise, tag or contract. Now they have the wiggle
Speaker 5: room to move on from him, and the fan base
Speaker 5: probably wouldn't revolt. At least this morning, they wouldn't. So
Speaker 5: they are light winners last night. Yeah, I see where
Speaker 5: you going with that. That Okay, we have to keep
Speaker 5: him too. We don't have to keep him.
Speaker 2: And the fan base would be able to say we
Speaker 2: saw him in a couple of big games and he
Speaker 2: didn't do well. Look, it's going to come down to
Speaker 2: the quarterback, win or lose. We give them credit, we
Speaker 2: give them blame. It's more than that. Now, there are
Speaker 2: a lot of times that quarterbacks will they have to
Speaker 2: take the blame for sacks, and this is a situation
Speaker 2: where Sam Darnold has to take some of the blame.
Speaker 2: I think they he was sacked fifty seven times this year.
Speaker 2: You know, Russell Wilson would get sacked, Joe Burrow would
Speaker 2: get sacked. You know, there's certain guys who get sacked
Speaker 2: a lot. And that's you know, in large part because
Speaker 2: you know Caleb Williams. You're trying to hold on, You're
Speaker 2: trying to make something happen. But give credit to the
Speaker 2: rams that rams and if you don't have to blitz.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's such a benefit when you just send
Speaker 2: your defensive line and then you're back in coverage and
Speaker 2: you put pressure. Now, this is what the Vikings were
Speaker 2: doing prior to the last two games. Brian Flores, that
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. He was throwing all kinds of junk defenses,
Speaker 2: crazy stuff, and it worked until it didn't. Yeah, Eton.
Speaker 4: The if you're looking at at Sam Donald, I don't
Speaker 4: know how you and you're you're the Vikings front office,
Speaker 4: I don't know how you in the offseason sit justin
Speaker 4: Jefferson down at a meeting and say we're sticking with Sam.
Speaker 2: I just don't know how you can.
Speaker 4: I don't really know how you can look at any
Speaker 4: of those receivers and be like, Okay, I know those
Speaker 4: are rough two weeks, but we're gonna stick with that.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 4: I just don't know how you can.
Speaker 2: But these aren't pedestrian numbers that he put up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Pauling, it feels like last night he was exposed
Speaker 5: Sam Donald as a good not great quarterback.
Speaker 2: Maybe like Rock Party.
Speaker 5: Has been somewhat exposed as good not great where under
Speaker 5: optimal conditions in November, he's fantastic in a playoff situation,
Speaker 5: there's so only so far he could take you, and
Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford feels the opposite, like you'd ignore the regular
Speaker 5: season on Matthew Stafford say in the playoffs, I trust
Speaker 5: this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But there's only so many quarterbacks who truly are
Speaker 2: game changing. You know, lamar Is and Josh Allen Is,
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, they're truly different than everybody else because you
Speaker 2: can have you know, and you can put Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: in there. I think. I think Joe is legitimately great,
Speaker 2: but you still look at sort of that second tier
Speaker 2: and there's a big difference in that. I mean, Jalen
Speaker 2: Hurts is a good quarterback, I don't think he's great.
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, I think he's a good quarterback, I don't
Speaker 2: think he's great. There's a lot of them that are
Speaker 2: lumped in there, but there's only a couple that you go,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that guy with the ball game on
Speaker 2: the line, he'll make a difference. Sam Darnold's not one
Speaker 2: of those guys. Kirk Cousins is not one of those guys.
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels is becoming one of those guys, like he's
Speaker 2: starting to sneak into the top five of Wow. And
Speaker 2: now let's see what he does. Because it's week by week.
Speaker 2: Your report guard is week by week, and then we go,
Speaker 2: all right, I'll give you an A, give you a
Speaker 2: B minus. Sam Darnold Old, I'm gonna give you a
Speaker 2: D and then that's it. Then your final report card
Speaker 2: and then you go into the off season. If you're
Speaker 2: the Vikings, you have to be extremely confident in JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2: If not, you might have to say to Sam Donald,
Speaker 2: we're gonna franchise you and pay you whatever forty four
Speaker 2: million dollars as an insurance policy. Yes, Fritzy, it's so
Speaker 2: easy to.
Speaker 6: Get caught up. I did two, fourteen and three.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 7: This guy is something. Look at the Vikings.
Speaker 2: But the weight of that Lion's loss and yesterday's loss,
Speaker 2: that's like three losses each from fourteen and three losing
Speaker 2: those two games. But I don't know what to take
Speaker 2: away from this with Sam Darnald, Like at the end
Speaker 2: of the season, if you say, how did Sam Darnald.
Speaker 2: Do you know the totality of the season, I'd say, good, good,
Speaker 2: Now is good worth fifty million dollars? Not to me?
Speaker 2: But then it's not my money. But then how many
Speaker 2: years has he earned or does he say, look, I
Speaker 2: can benefit from the market because there's no other free
Speaker 2: agent quarterbacks who were good or on my level that
Speaker 2: I'm going to be able. Not everybody gets a quarterback
Speaker 2: and he might have to wait until the dust settles
Speaker 2: at the draft, and then that's when a team reaches
Speaker 2: out and says all right, And then if you get
Speaker 2: two teams in a bidding war, then maybe Sam Donald
Speaker 2: is making whatever three years, one twenty something like that,
Speaker 2: And I thought that might be the direction the Vikings
Speaker 2: were going to go in. Is put him in that
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield kind of financial slot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Pauline, it reminds me a bunch of years ago,
Speaker 5: maybe ten years ago. Remember Carson Palmer was on Arizona
Speaker 5: his last stop, and he had that great twenty fifteen
Speaker 5: season where I think they were thirteen wins and he
Speaker 5: was an MVP candidate comeback Player of the Year, and
Speaker 5: then he had a playoff game I think where he
Speaker 5: threw five interceptions and it undid the entire season and
Speaker 5: he never got it back.
Speaker 2: The perception here is Kevin O'Connell, the Vikings head coach,
Speaker 2: on Sam Donald's season.
Speaker 8: You know, I think it's very important we all think about,
Speaker 8: you know, Sam's body of work, what he was able
Speaker 8: to do this year when not very many people thought
Speaker 8: he would be able to lead a team to fourteen wins.
Speaker 8: I'm very rare for a quarterback in their first year.
Speaker 8: In fact, it is rare the most wins by a
Speaker 8: first year quarterback with a team, And just the way
Speaker 8: he came in committed himself to just that daily process
Speaker 8: to be the best version of himself.
Speaker 6: It did not work out in the end.
Speaker 8: I'm proud of him, proud of you know, really everybody
Speaker 8: in that locker room.
Speaker 6: But Sam and the journey him and I went on
Speaker 6: this year.
Speaker 8: Will always you know, be a you know something that's
Speaker 8: a special place in my heart for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, you got to back your guy, man, Kevin's doing
Speaker 2: the right thing. Sam Darnold completed sixty eight percent of
Speaker 2: his passes and had a passer rating of one oh
Speaker 2: six point four, thirty five touchdowns twelve interceptions through week seventeen.
Speaker 2: Then he completed fifty three percent of his passes QB
Speaker 2: rating of sixty six point four, had one touchdown one
Speaker 2: interception in his last two games. So a dramatic fall off,
Speaker 2: And you wonder did these teams figure out something in
Speaker 2: this situation? Now. I always like it when somebody says, well,
Speaker 2: we got the blueprint. Well, there are certain teams that
Speaker 2: have the people to carry out a blueprint. I can
Speaker 2: have the blueprint to solve a Rubik's cube. That doesn't
Speaker 2: mean I'm going to solve it. I'll be like, damn,
Speaker 2: how did these kids do this?
Speaker 5: Yes, possible solution for next year for the Vikings. Play
Speaker 5: Sam Donald in the regular season, play JJ McCarthy in
Speaker 5: the postseason. He was great in the postseason for Michigan.
Speaker 5: Problem solve h Okay.
Speaker 2: Did we come up with the pole question?
Speaker 9: Seaton?
Speaker 2: I think I asked you. I don't know if we
Speaker 2: got a couple of.
Speaker 4: Them, Well, yeah, we got a few of them who
Speaker 4: had a worst day yesterday, Sam Donald or Mike McCarthy. Uh,
Speaker 4: you could argue the case that only one of them
Speaker 4: had a bad day.
Speaker 2: All Right, you know what I'm going to discuss the
Speaker 2: Cowboys situation coming up, and maybe Mike McCarthy had a
Speaker 2: good day yesterday.
Speaker 4: Maybe what else do you have? How about is the
Speaker 4: Cowboys head coaching job desirable? According to Troy Aikman, No
Speaker 4: said that last night, but I still think it is. Well,
Speaker 4: we'll talk about him, all right. Got another one for me?
Speaker 2: Uh sure?
Speaker 4: How about how much money has Sam Darnold lost in
Speaker 4: the last two weeks?
Speaker 2: A ton a bunch.
Speaker 4: Somebody's still getting paid big time.
Speaker 2: What if you had that metal detector guy goes out
Speaker 2: on the field after the game. You know, those guys
Speaker 2: are on the beach walking around like, damn, these aren't coins.
Speaker 2: These are one hundred dollars bills that I'm picking up here.
Speaker 2: I felt bad for him because you don't root against somebody,
Speaker 2: and he was a good story. It just felt like
Speaker 2: he was shell shocked when he was going back to
Speaker 2: pass after the fourth or fifth sack. You almost go
Speaker 2: back going where's it coming from? And the last thing
Speaker 2: you want to do as a quarterback is beef thinking
Speaker 2: about getting sacked. Now, you need to know where pressures
Speaker 2: coming from. There's a difference of where's it coming from
Speaker 2: or which guy is gonna make me hurt? And that
Speaker 2: was the feeling I had with the Rams last night.
Speaker 2: But give them credit. That's tying an NFL playoff record
Speaker 2: with nine sacks, putting the pressure therefore taking the pressure
Speaker 2: off the rams offense.
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Speaker 2: sports columnist, He's got it easy. He's always got something
Speaker 2: to write about. And here you go, right on a platter.
Speaker 2: All I think you wrote two columns like you're on
Speaker 2: fire with what's going on here. So let me start
Speaker 2: with is the Dione possibility a true possibility in your opinion?
Speaker 7: In my opinion, Dad, thanks for having me. I think no.
Speaker 12: But given that it's Jerry Jones, I'm certainly not going
Speaker 12: to rule it out. There's something about the allure of
Speaker 12: doing something like that that would appeal to him. However,
Speaker 12: I just think he's going to try to find somebody,
Speaker 12: somebody else.
Speaker 7: You know, when you look at Dion after two years,
Speaker 7: what is his record of Colorado? About five hundred, barely
Speaker 7: over it?
Speaker 12: And I just I don't think that's going to be
Speaker 12: I don't think this team needs a motivator, and I
Speaker 12: think Dion's stuff works better in.
Speaker 7: College than it will in the NFL. I think this
Speaker 7: team needs a coach, and it needs different schemes, and
Speaker 7: it needs new ideas.
Speaker 12: And I'm not saying Dion couldn't bring that, but I
Speaker 12: think Dion's greatest strength works better at college players.
Speaker 2: And you bring this up in your column. You're saying
Speaker 2: you got to fix Dak Prescott. Tim That's going to
Speaker 2: be difficult for a guy who's injury prone, making that
Speaker 2: kind of money and is a pocket quarterback and is
Speaker 2: thirty two years of age. I don't know who can
Speaker 2: fix that.
Speaker 7: You find those aspects troubling, the fact that he.
Speaker 12: Plays it two thirds of the games. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 12: why you know I've thrown out Cliff kings Bred. Look,
Speaker 12: Ben Johnson is everybody's first choice, and nobody has any.
Speaker 7: Idea what he would be like as a head coach.
Speaker 7: But everybody loves Detroit's offense. But you go through Detroit's offense.
Speaker 12: Player by player, and you know Dallas doesn't win anywhere
Speaker 12: except maybe maybe Ceedee Lamb is a notch higher.
Speaker 7: Than a Mode raw, but it's not much if it
Speaker 7: is at all. And yeah, but if you're the Cowboys,
Speaker 7: if you're Jerry Jones, you have to hope.
Speaker 12: All you can do after signing back to that contract
Speaker 12: is hope you get three or four mostly healthy years
Speaker 12: out of him, and who who can put together the
Speaker 12: best offense that he can thrive in.
Speaker 7: I think that has to be the target here.
Speaker 2: What happened here in the last two weeks with Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 12: I don't know that anything did I mean that the
Speaker 12: fact that they'd met every day last week. You know,
Speaker 12: I do feel for Mike McCarthy sitting through those meetings.
Speaker 12: The sun never sets on a Jerry Jones conversation. They
Speaker 12: just go on and on, and you know, in Jerry's world,
Speaker 12: they didn't even get to contracts till the last day,
Speaker 12: So I don't know what in the world they.
Speaker 7: They talked about.
Speaker 12: I think Jerry's mind was probably made up. If they
Speaker 12: didn't do better in the playoffs this year, no matter,
Speaker 12: no matter how that happened, he needed.
Speaker 7: To go in another direction. It's five years.
Speaker 12: It's one playoff win, one playoff win over an eight
Speaker 12: to nineteen, So.
Speaker 7: You know, I don't think anything went wrong McCarthy.
Speaker 12: Actually, I got coached the hell out of him after
Speaker 12: Dak left and the way they played down the stretch,
Speaker 12: and they could have won the Cincinnati game, and they
Speaker 12: could have won obviously, could have won the Washington game.
Speaker 7: But while Dak was here, there were three and five
Speaker 7: and they were a mess. And you know, I just.
Speaker 12: Think after five years he had to go look for
Speaker 12: another another voice, try something else.
Speaker 2: Okay, but why didn't Jerry make the decision when you
Speaker 2: had the window of opportunities to Ben Johnson.
Speaker 12: Because he doesn't operate that way. He likes to drag
Speaker 12: his speed and take a week, give us headlines for
Speaker 12: talk shows and things like that. I don't really think
Speaker 12: I just mentioned Ben Johnson. I don't think he will
Speaker 12: hire Ben Johnson. I don't think the quiet, soft spoken,
Speaker 12: brainy offensive coordinator. They had one of those in Kelli Borr,
Speaker 12: and I don't think that's Jerry's idea of the head coach.
Speaker 12: So I'll be if Ben Johnson becomes a serious candidate,
Speaker 12: I would be very surprised.
Speaker 2: Any chance that Mike McCarthy had a good day yesterday.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 12: I mean, look, he's been here five years, so he's
Speaker 12: made thirty five or forty million.
Speaker 7: He hasn't done badly here. It might be, and he
Speaker 7: turned it down whatever it was, a one year offer
Speaker 7: supposedly for about the same money.
Speaker 12: He's confident he'll get the Bear's job or another job,
Speaker 12: or sit out a year and try again. And he's
Speaker 12: not a bad coach. I just don't think. I don't
Speaker 12: think he enhanced whatever his reputation was before coming here.
Speaker 12: I don't think he enhanced it in these five years.
Speaker 2: Well, he kind of got neutered there, and I don't
Speaker 2: know if he was ever viewed as a coach that
Speaker 2: was submissive.
Speaker 7: It's always difficult here.
Speaker 12: Parcels is the only hire since Jimmy that Jerry has
Speaker 12: sort of taken a couple of steps back and let
Speaker 12: him be the head coach. You know, it's appalling to
Speaker 12: me that, you know.
Speaker 7: Jerry Jones does Jerry Jones does his post.
Speaker 12: Game press conference at home games the same time Mike
Speaker 12: McCarthy's talking.
Speaker 6: Of course, and there's there's like me and four.
Speaker 12: Other people and Mike McCarthy's roof and everybody else is
Speaker 12: around there. Just think of what that does, not just
Speaker 12: to the head coach, but to the signal it sends
Speaker 12: to all the players walking out.
Speaker 7: They know who the authority figure.
Speaker 2: Here is okay, Tim, If I said to Jerry Jones,
Speaker 2: you can't talk to the media, you don't do any
Speaker 2: more interviews for the next five years, but I'll guarantee
Speaker 2: you you win one more Super Bowl.
Speaker 7: Oh oh.
Speaker 12: He's talked about how much money he says he would spend,
Speaker 12: although he doesn't really spend it.
Speaker 7: That would be a difficult one.
Speaker 2: No radio shows, nothing.
Speaker 7: This man does two radio shows a week.
Speaker 2: Then, Oh, I know, and he'd do more probably if
Speaker 2: he could.
Speaker 7: I mean, he'd like to do drive time.
Speaker 2: He would like to host.
Speaker 7: Three to six Going Home with Jerry, But that would
Speaker 7: be a yeah at this point. At this point, it
Speaker 7: is uh, tad, you're here on this planet. I don't
Speaker 7: think he's I don't think he's going to that. That's
Speaker 7: too tough. Maybe here.
Speaker 2: Oh, he couldn't do it. No, he could not do it.
Speaker 2: He loves it, he's addicted to it, and he wants
Speaker 2: everybody to know that he knows what he's doing. Just
Speaker 2: trust me. I got a plan.
Speaker 7: It's in good hands.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, as always, and probably check
Speaker 2: in with you again soon because you're going to eventually
Speaker 2: get a head coach here.
Speaker 7: They we'll have a head coach. We'll see who that is.
Speaker 2: Thank you to all right, that's Tim cawdi Show.
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Speaker 2: NFL Networks Game Day morning. He was on the call
Speaker 2: for Westwood One Radio Line Night with the wild Card
Speaker 2: game between the Vikings and the Rams. Kurt, good to
Speaker 2: see again. What did you expect pregame was going to
Speaker 2: happen last night?
Speaker 9: Yeah? I wish I knew. I didn't really know what
Speaker 9: to expect.
Speaker 13: You know, anytime you throw you know, everything that was
Speaker 13: thrown at the Rams into this week, including you know, issues.
Speaker 9: With your family and maybe friends of yours.
Speaker 13: I don't think you ever really know how team is
Speaker 13: going to respond, how they are going to grow together.
Speaker 13: But I think Sean McVay did an unbelievable job. Give
Speaker 13: some credit to the Cardinals. I thought they did an
Speaker 13: unbelievable job of welcoming the Rams. And making them feel
Speaker 13: at home. But what a performance. I mean, they came
Speaker 13: out from the get go and they dominated that game.
Speaker 13: And I think oftentimes when you have situations like this, Dan,
Speaker 13: it goes one of two ways, right, and you find
Speaker 13: out pretty early whether a team is ready to play
Speaker 13: or whether their mind is on something else.
Speaker 9: And we saw very early that the Rams were ready
Speaker 9: to play.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's look at Sam Darnold because we know his
Speaker 2: future could be at stake in Minnesota these last two games.
Speaker 2: What did you see from Sam Darnold that you didn't
Speaker 2: see in the other games this season.
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, we'll put it on the team
Speaker 9: as a whole.
Speaker 13: I thought Minnesota got physically dominated in both games. So
Speaker 13: that's the first issue is And it wasn't just upfront.
Speaker 13: Sometimes it was on the back end with the receivers
Speaker 13: as well. But maybe the biggest thing for me was Sam,
Speaker 13: and I kind of saw it all year long, was
Speaker 13: his struggles with pressure, you know, understanding when pressure is
Speaker 13: coming and having answers for that pressure. And sometimes that
Speaker 13: answer isn't even just a completion, but it's just save
Speaker 13: in some yards.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 13: There was that situation in the fourth quarter last night
Speaker 13: where they're what third and eight or something like that,
Speaker 13: and he takes the huge sack. I mean, in that situation,
Speaker 13: you got at least set up for a field goal.
Speaker 13: So if nothing else, throw the football away, maybe you
Speaker 13: go forward on fourth down because you're in that situation.
Speaker 13: But there's too many times this year of him just
Speaker 13: holding and taking negative plays, and those negative plays are
Speaker 13: just hard to overcome. So that, to me was probably
Speaker 13: the biggest issue that I saw. And then you have
Speaker 13: to ask yourself with the question, as I know everybody is,
Speaker 13: is okay if you want to keep him around? What
Speaker 13: does that look like? What kind of commitment do you
Speaker 13: have to make to him? And you know, in those
Speaker 13: big games, the two biggest games of the year, he
Speaker 13: didn't play very well. Are you willing to you know,
Speaker 13: commit to him long term?
Speaker 9: You know? After seeing that?
Speaker 2: All right, I'll ask you play GM, would you keep
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold if the price is right?
Speaker 13: I would say yes, I would keep the prices right.
Speaker 13: I think the question would be how long do I
Speaker 13: have to keep him? And then the other factor, dan
Speaker 13: is I don't really know what we have in JJ McCarthy,
Speaker 13: Like I didn't see him in preseason I didn't.
Speaker 9: Know where he was. I don't know if you know
Speaker 9: the Vikings.
Speaker 13: Were ready to start him after that one preseason game,
Speaker 13: or if you know they hadn't seen enough and Sam
Speaker 13: was the guy. So I feel like after watching him
Speaker 13: this year, they've got a good enough team that they
Speaker 13: need a guy at that position to make them competitive.
Speaker 9: Sam made them.
Speaker 13: More than competitive all year long. But that, to me
Speaker 13: is the question. I don't really know what you have
Speaker 13: in JJ McCarthy. I didn't see enough in college. I
Speaker 13: didn't see enough with the Vikings to know for sure.
Speaker 13: If you feel like you have enough, then absolutely not,
Speaker 13: you go with JJ and you move forward. But if
Speaker 13: you're not sure, I think it's hard to let a
Speaker 13: guy that did that well out of the building and
Speaker 13: you say, Okay, so we saw one flaw or we
Speaker 13: saw a flaw with our team.
Speaker 9: We need to fix that flaw.
Speaker 13: But if we do, we've got this quarterback that played
Speaker 13: at a really, really high level.
Speaker 2: Okay, but is this fixable. You're talking about pressure, Well,
Speaker 2: every quarterback faces pressure. The difference is you welcomed pressure.
Speaker 2: He seemed to be unnerved or very nerved by it,
Speaker 2: like oh my god. And then you start to kind
Speaker 2: of get out of your comfort zone. So can you
Speaker 2: fix what you saw the last two games?
Speaker 9: Dan? I wish I knew the answer to that, but
Speaker 9: I'm with you.
Speaker 13: I think there are some people that in that moment,
Speaker 13: when pressure's on them, high stakes, they can just slow
Speaker 13: the game down and make the right decision. I made
Speaker 13: a comment about Jayden Daniels from the night before, and
Speaker 13: what I love about Jaden Daniels is he makes the
Speaker 13: right decision in the moment, even if he doesn't see it,
Speaker 13: even if something's not open, He'll throw the football away,
Speaker 13: you know, he'll take off and make a two or
Speaker 13: three yard gain instead of taking these sacks. And here's
Speaker 13: a rookie that we're seeing do this. And so I've
Speaker 13: always wondered if that's something that truly can be taught.
Speaker 13: You know, when you've got pressure around you, or when
Speaker 13: the game speeds up, can you slow it down and
Speaker 13: have that answer? I think, you know, I think for
Speaker 13: the most part, if you're good at it, you're good
Speaker 13: at it.
Speaker 9: Do I think you can help a quarterback.
Speaker 13: Sure, you can help them by giving them some answers,
Speaker 13: But I don't know if that's something that all of a.
Speaker 9: Sudden, we're going to see a quarterback that's not.
Speaker 13: Good against pressure become great against pressure. I'm not sure
Speaker 13: that's something that that you can really learn.
Speaker 2: How threatening are the Rams.
Speaker 13: I think they're they're scary, and I think they're scary
Speaker 13: in a game where they can win the line of
Speaker 13: scrimmage and not to me.
Speaker 2: But you're going against the Eagles now exactly, and so
Speaker 2: that to me is where I feel like the Rams
Speaker 2: could struggle a little bit as upfront.
Speaker 13: You know, if they can handle it up front. They
Speaker 13: obviously have playmakers. They've got a young front. I mean,
Speaker 13: nine sacks last night by eight different guys. They've got
Speaker 13: lots of guys that can.
Speaker 9: Get after the quarterback. I just don't think Philly is
Speaker 9: going to play that sort of game.
Speaker 13: So I think they are a dangerous team based on
Speaker 13: what Matthew Staffer can do, the weapons that they have,
Speaker 13: but it has to be more their way of playing football,
Speaker 13: and I'm not sure.
Speaker 9: They're going to be able to dictate that against Philly.
Speaker 2: He's the Hall of Famer Kurt Warner. You can see
Speaker 2: him on NFL Game Day Mornings with Rich Eisending Company.
Speaker 2: He was on the call last night the Vikings and
Speaker 2: the Rams. If I said, you can have Jade and
Speaker 2: Daniels moving forward or justin Herbert.
Speaker 9: Oh, I'm taking Jade Daniels. I mean, no, no doubt
Speaker 9: about it. I mean, I just I've seen that young
Speaker 9: man play.
Speaker 2: It's quarterback Kurt.
Speaker 9: Maybe just outside of that.
Speaker 13: But I'm probably only saying that because because he's a rookie, right.
Speaker 9: And because you know, against one year and one body
Speaker 9: of work.
Speaker 13: But if I stacked up all the things that he
Speaker 13: does well and put him up against the top five
Speaker 13: quarterbacks in the league, it would be hard for me
Speaker 13: to find five guys that do all the things as
Speaker 13: well as Jayden Daniels has done this year, the critical moments,
Speaker 13: handed on pressure, just the consistency of his technique, the
Speaker 13: red zone. You know, normally you have struggles in the
Speaker 13: red zone because everything gets tighter. He has been phenomenal
Speaker 13: in the red zone, last two minutes of games and
Speaker 13: critical moments like it would be hard to probably find
Speaker 13: five guys that have played consistently better than him all
Speaker 13: year long.
Speaker 2: I think you were twenty eight when you were a rookie.
Speaker 9: Weren't you my first year playing? Yes, I was twenty Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty eight the Bills in the Ravens and both
Speaker 2: of these quarterbacks trying not to do too much, Like
Speaker 2: you almost have to say to yourself, Okay, I still
Speaker 2: got to be that same person that I've been all
Speaker 2: season longer my career. But sometimes you want to play
Speaker 2: outside of yourself. And sometimes we've seen where you know
Speaker 2: you're you're your own worst enemy. So how do you
Speaker 2: have that seat belt on that says just stay within
Speaker 2: yourself here?
Speaker 13: I think the biggest thing, Dan is you don't predetermine
Speaker 13: that you're gonna do something that maybe the situation doesn't dictate.
Speaker 13: You know, like if you drop back and you're telling yourself, hey,
Speaker 13: I'm gonna take off here if I see any kind
Speaker 13: of a window as opposed to reading the play and
Speaker 13: then taking off when the play dictates that, that, to
Speaker 13: me is the key is you have to play the play.
Speaker 13: But the easy thing to do is, oh, I need
Speaker 13: to make a big play right here, So I'm gonna
Speaker 13: go back and I'm going to throw this deep one.
Speaker 13: You know, if I get any scenario like you can't
Speaker 13: talk yourself into doing things that the situation doesn't dictate.
Speaker 9: For you to do, and I'm sure you know. You
Speaker 9: know me, I wasn't a runner.
Speaker 13: I couldn't move, So my dictating was, you know, saying
Speaker 13: I'm gonna kind of a deeper throw or make a
Speaker 13: bigger play than was out there. For these guys, it's
Speaker 13: taken off and creating, you know, instead of you know,
Speaker 13: winning with their arm.
Speaker 9: It's like, hey, I can go back.
Speaker 13: And you see these guys do this at times where
Speaker 13: they hit their back foot and they're already taken off
Speaker 13: to run.
Speaker 9: Because they felt something.
Speaker 13: And in those situations, I almost feel like it's you're
Speaker 13: dictating that ahead of time. I know this is a pass,
Speaker 13: but if I drop back and I see something, I'm
Speaker 13: just gonna take off and run instead of allowing the
Speaker 13: situation to play out for you. And I think that's
Speaker 13: what you have to fight. The more talented you are,
Speaker 13: the more things you can do, the more you have
Speaker 13: to fight that and say, play within myself, play within
Speaker 13: what the play dictates, and don't try to do too much.
Speaker 9: Not always an easy thing to do, but that to
Speaker 9: me is the key is play.
Speaker 13: Play to play and don't allow those thoughts to get
Speaker 13: in your head, you know, ahead of time to dictate
Speaker 13: how you're going to play.
Speaker 2: How desirable is the Cowboys, John.
Speaker 13: I mean, I think it's always desirable from the standpoint
Speaker 13: that you know, if you win as a Dallas Cowboy,
Speaker 13: if you have success as the Dallas Cowboy, you're going
Speaker 13: to get notoriety and you're going to have you know,
Speaker 13: that platform that I think you know, every player and
Speaker 13: every coach covets.
Speaker 9: Right when you get to this level.
Speaker 13: You want to know that when you play, you're going
Speaker 13: to be on TV and what you do is going
Speaker 13: to be.
Speaker 9: Going to be focused on around the league. But you know,
Speaker 9: I think everybody's talked about it.
Speaker 13: There's the negative side to that as well, because we
Speaker 13: have this perception that the Cowboys are supposed to win championships,
Speaker 13: even though it hasn't been. It's been thirty years since
Speaker 13: they've won championships. So, like Mike McCarthy, you win a
Speaker 13: lot in the regular season, not good enough, not good enough,
Speaker 13: not good enough, And then we always talk about the
Speaker 13: second factor is you've got an owner that wants to
Speaker 13: be out in the forefront and the owner saying things
Speaker 13: that you know, as a coach, you're like, I don't
Speaker 13: want anybody saying that, you know, I want to keep
Speaker 13: this stuff in house. I want to be able to
Speaker 13: lead here. And you've got to fight your ownership a
Speaker 13: little bit in what they're saying and deal with that.
Speaker 13: So you know, those two factors I think can can
Speaker 13: make it a tough job. But I don't think anybody
Speaker 13: you know that wants to be a head coach is
Speaker 13: going to turn down the opportunity to be a head
Speaker 13: coach of the Dallas Cowboys because you know what that means.
Speaker 13: If you believe in yourself and you have success, what
Speaker 13: that can mean.
Speaker 9: For your career.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you is always thank you.
Speaker 9: I'm going to talk to you too. Thank you, buddy,
Speaker 9: Thank you buddy.
Speaker 2: That's Kurt Warner.
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Speaker 2: We make lay for our friend. He's Mark Sanchez Fox
Speaker 2: Sports joining us on the program. How good are the
Speaker 2: Rams cool?
Speaker 14: I think they're an excellent young team that is peaking
Speaker 14: at the right time. And stude I already forgot Sorry,
Speaker 14: Good morning, DNTs And where are you six six?
Speaker 6: I'm in Hawaii. Actually, my wife's we got two.
Speaker 14: We got twins on the way, so we're doing a
Speaker 14: little trip before she can't travel anymore. And then, uh,
Speaker 14: we'll be in dad mode and wife mode and baby
Speaker 14: mode for for most of the offseason. So this is
Speaker 14: our chance to get away. But I'm not gonna miss
Speaker 14: you guys. Sixty three coach. I'm getting a little heavy
Speaker 14: by the end of the season. I've been eating a
Speaker 14: little too much. I don't read on the sidelines. I
Speaker 14: eat hot dogs on the sidelines, and I'm probably like
Speaker 14: two right now, so I need.
Speaker 2: To trim up. Oh wow, Okay, but Rady shout you
Speaker 2: out though, Mark with the Yeah, I remember seeing it.
Speaker 14: Eating text during the game. I text her during the
Speaker 14: game and he texted me back like a quarter later,
Speaker 14: just with one.
Speaker 6: Of those funny emojis. Yeah, you know, messing around with
Speaker 6: each other.
Speaker 14: But it's uh, it's been cool to watch, you know,
Speaker 14: And when you see other players doing what you're doing
Speaker 14: and watch them grow throughout the season, it's, uh, it's
Speaker 14: pretty fun.
Speaker 2: Okay, go back to eating the hot dog. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: you you blew out the Raiders. Yeah, and you're eating
Speaker 2: a hot dog on the sideline. Did you catch any
Speaker 2: heat from anybody.
Speaker 6: Oh my god.
Speaker 14: Yeah, So we we win three straight. This is my
Speaker 14: rookie year. We win three straight. Then we lose like
Speaker 14: four straight. We go to California. I'm back home. It's
Speaker 14: in Oakland. We're playing the Raiders at the Old Coliseum,
Speaker 14: and my whole family's coming to the game. My mom
Speaker 14: actually got a beer dumped on her by a Raiders
Speaker 14: fan that game because we were beating him so bad.
Speaker 14: And my brothers almost went to jail because they had
Speaker 14: to like throw this guy off over her. It was crazy.
Speaker 14: It was crazy, like classic Raiders game. So then I
Speaker 14: wouldn't I couldn't eat. Like the night before and the
Speaker 14: day of, I was just like so in my head
Speaker 14: and so upset and couldn't figure out what was going on,
Speaker 14: why we're losing, you know, trying to get better whatever,
Speaker 14: and I just didn't eat. So those guys on the
Speaker 14: sidelines that have white shirts and blue shorts, they have
Speaker 14: like one little NFL logo. They're like kind of like
Speaker 14: ball boys. They do like water stuff whatever, And so
Speaker 14: I just looked at one of them and I go, hey,
Speaker 14: did you got any food?
Speaker 6: Because I got pulled out the game.
Speaker 14: I said, do you have any food and he's like,
Speaker 14: you mean like a power bar or like a something
Speaker 14: like that. I was like, I don't know anything. Can
Speaker 14: you run up to concessions. I'll take a hot dog,
Speaker 14: I'll take a burger, like whatever you got. He goes, yeah, dude,
Speaker 14: i'll get I'll grab you a dog. And so he
Speaker 14: ran up, goes and gets a hot dog. Is he's
Speaker 14: running away, I'm like, yo, grabs the mustard, gets the mustard.
Speaker 14: And then you see the whole deal where you know
Speaker 14: Dan Dierdorf and it was Gumble I think Gumble Rip
Speaker 14: was calling the game, but they they had the camera
Speaker 14: on me.
Speaker 6: And they caught me.
Speaker 14: But back to your question about the Rams, because I've
Speaker 14: had them a couple of times this year. I'm so
Speaker 14: impressed with Chris Shula and this defensive coordinator. You know,
Speaker 14: you lose your defensive coordinator Raheem Morris to Atlanta and
Speaker 14: he takes over the job.
Speaker 6: And people think like, oh, yeah, first year.
Speaker 14: Well he's been there for eight years with Sean McVay
Speaker 14: knows exactly what this offense is, what this team looks like,
Speaker 14: how it's supposed to fit together, and the way they've
Speaker 14: drafted and developed. You got it, you know, tip your
Speaker 14: caps a less need and this defensive staff because it's incredible.
Speaker 14: I mean Byron Young at one point he was working
Speaker 14: at like a dollar General and then ended up getting
Speaker 14: his chance to play at Tennessee wherever he went, and
Speaker 14: he wears the number zero, he said, because that's how
Speaker 14: many people believed in me. And this dude's making great
Speaker 14: plays out there. Whether you get Kobe Turner from wake
Speaker 14: Forest who was originally at Richmond, then goes to wake
Speaker 14: Forest for his senior year, the dude's a captain for
Speaker 14: the La Rams defense his second year in the league. Like,
Speaker 14: that's pretty impressive stuff. And then you put in these
Speaker 14: two rookies that Reek Taboc last year on the Florida
Speaker 14: State defense that basically had him undefeated, and it's you know,
Speaker 14: fisk and verse, and so they were able to generate
Speaker 14: pressure without bringing five or six players a lot. They
Speaker 14: did it occasionally, you saw the Kobe Durant pressure. But
Speaker 14: when you can do it with four, that's a defensive
Speaker 14: coordinator's dream. You could just sit back, play coverage, generate
Speaker 14: your pressure with four and force that quarterback to get
Speaker 14: rid of the ball. You got plenty of guys in coverage,
Speaker 14: and I mean, you got to give them all there do.
Speaker 14: They really really played well in that game. And to
Speaker 14: Stafford's point, you were talking about all those yards, It
Speaker 14: wasn't gonna be that kind of day. It wasn't gonna
Speaker 14: be a throw for three to fifty type day. Five touchdowns,
Speaker 14: you know, yeah, thirty five of forty, it's not that day.
Speaker 14: And for him to understand the formula toll win that
Speaker 14: football game the way we're gonna get after him on defense.
Speaker 14: That's what they talk about when you say complimentary football.
Speaker 14: That's what they're talking about. When teams understand that, know
Speaker 14: how to play that game. And sometimes it's time to
Speaker 14: just cut eight, move on with your life. You don't
Speaker 14: have to take the shot downfield. And obviously Matthew Stafford
Speaker 14: knows that.
Speaker 2: Okay, but let me look at the Viking situation. You
Speaker 2: just got manhandled by the lines the previous game. You know,
Speaker 2: the Rams are gonna look at that blueprint and say,
Speaker 2: all right, let's just see can we bring four and
Speaker 2: put pressure on him and make him uncomfortable. We had
Speaker 2: Kurt Warner on last tower and Kurt said, hey, I
Speaker 2: wasn't mobile, but I knew when to get rid of
Speaker 2: the ball. Sacks are not all created equal here, so
Speaker 2: what should the Vikings have done to mitigate the damage
Speaker 2: or certainly the pressure on Sam.
Speaker 6: Okay, this is an extreme example, but remember in the
Speaker 6: game when Stafford.
Speaker 14: Dumps the ball out, Yeah, and people, oh, it's intentional grounding.
Speaker 6: Intentional grounding. Do you understand.
Speaker 14: His level of understoning all of his where all of
Speaker 14: his pieces are at all times, and being able to
Speaker 14: get hit close your eyes, still have that picture in
Speaker 14: your head of exactly where all the chess pieces are,
Speaker 14: and to just flip that ball out knowing you're going
Speaker 14: to get the ball where you're supposed to get the ball.
Speaker 6: I'm not getting sack. I am not.
Speaker 14: I refuse to take negative plays. So sometimes when you'd
Speaker 14: see you know, even Peyton Manning Tom Brady immediately catch
Speaker 14: the ball, boom, it's not right and either fall down
Speaker 14: instead of going back another five yards, or literally just
Speaker 14: rifle the ball at somebody's ankle.
Speaker 6: You're like, what the hell was that? Well, they know
Speaker 6: it's not worth it. You got me.
Speaker 14: I know when to hold them, I know when to
Speaker 14: fold them. Kenny Rodgers right like the gambler. I know
Speaker 14: how to play this game and those kind of things
Speaker 14: are where Stafford is operating at an elite level, and
Speaker 14: Sam is still learning some of those things.
Speaker 6: And it's tough because some of those are on him.
Speaker 14: Some of those he could have got the ball out earlier.
Speaker 14: And in big games like that, we say this all
Speaker 14: the time, you know, I think Pete Carroll was incredible
Speaker 14: about reminding us of these big moments, and all the
Speaker 14: commercials and all the hype surrounding this game makes this
Speaker 14: game feel bigger. Same size field, same size ball, same
Speaker 14: rules except for overtime. So what are we doing? We
Speaker 14: go back to our fundamentals. We know when to get
Speaker 14: rid of the ball, we know when to hold them,
Speaker 14: when to fold them. Let's go play some ball and Sam,
Speaker 14: you know, unfortunately he's just got to got to continue
Speaker 14: to learn.
Speaker 6: But the hell of a year.
Speaker 14: I just feel bad because the last two games, that
Speaker 14: recency bias is going to crush him when it comes
Speaker 14: to you know, contract negotiations this offseason, that that knocked
Speaker 14: them down a couple of rungs.
Speaker 6: But you know, clearly he can play. Now you get
Speaker 6: to that next level.
Speaker 2: If you're Minnesota, do you like what what do you think? Sam,
Speaker 2: Donald's future is where is it?
Speaker 14: Well, I think now it might be better for Minnesota financially,
Speaker 14: you know, because you start negotiating at a different number
Speaker 14: than you might have if he won the last two games, right,
Speaker 14: or he would have won. To love sat out this year, Yeah,
Speaker 14: sure that you totally can if you love McCarthy and
Speaker 14: then you got to bring in another veteran, or you
Speaker 14: keep Daniel Jones who's on the roster and have him
Speaker 14: be your veteran and then potentially be like Sam Donald
Speaker 14: next year. Like there's they have plenty of options. The
Speaker 14: big the big questions are all the free agents they
Speaker 14: got on defense. I think Joe Buck might have said
Speaker 14: it last night, but I think Mattellis is the only
Speaker 14: one in that back end in their secondary and linebacker
Speaker 14: group that's even on contract.
Speaker 6: For the next year.
Speaker 14: So they got like six free agents there there were
Speaker 14: a critical part of their success. So I think it's
Speaker 14: not just a quarterback. There's Kevin O'Connell shown he can
Speaker 14: play well with a lot of different quarterbacks already, whether
Speaker 14: it's you know the past or not, whether it's Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 14: whether it's Sam Darnold.
Speaker 6: You know, they can do. He can do it.
Speaker 14: So now it's okay, how do we win that first
Speaker 14: playoff game? They got to get out of the wildcard
Speaker 14: round or get the first round by and win a
Speaker 14: divisional They just got to win a playoff game, and
Speaker 14: then you know, what are we doing on defense?
Speaker 6: Who's going to play for us at quarterback? I think
Speaker 6: those are great questions.
Speaker 14: But now I think if anything, if anybody has the leverage,
Speaker 14: it might be Minnesota a little more than.
Speaker 2: Sam Mark Sanchez father and waiting joining us on from
Speaker 2: a Fox Sports. You know you're competitive guy, Tom Brady
Speaker 2: is Tom Brady, But do you feel you're a better
Speaker 2: analyst than whoa whoa whoa whoa?
Speaker 6: Careful now careful listen? And I hope Tom would pay.
Speaker 14: But you got you feel like I feel like if
Speaker 14: you're if you're playing quarterback, or if you're going to
Speaker 14: compete at anything, you got to feel like you're the best,
Speaker 14: or you shouldn't be doing it in my opinion, But
Speaker 14: that's just the way I was reard.
Speaker 6: That's just kind of the way you know, we grew up.
Speaker 14: When you step into the booth, you step in between
Speaker 14: the white lines, you step on the court, you're the
Speaker 14: baddest dude out there. And if you don't think like that,
Speaker 14: it's not gonna go well and it's not even worth
Speaker 14: your time. So of course I think, you know, I
Speaker 14: can do this better than anybody. But I'm sure Troy
Speaker 14: Aigman thinks that. I'm sure Tom Brady thinks that, and
Speaker 14: they're all really really good. And at the end of
Speaker 14: the day too, when it comes to, you know, this
Speaker 14: announcing game, it's a little different than you know, as
Speaker 14: as a quarterback. You have a record next to your name,
Speaker 14: you have a completion percentage, you know, you throw for yards, touchdowns,
Speaker 14: you get all these stats. Wasn't an announcer. You get
Speaker 14: a bunch of opinions about either you're good or not. Well,
Speaker 14: what makes you good? I don't know. You might like
Speaker 14: chocolate ice cream. I might like vanilla ice cream. We
Speaker 14: both think they're good, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 14: So it's pretty subjective when you get to the announcing stuff.
Speaker 14: The thing that I do appreciate though, and this is
Speaker 14: kind of a fox thing that I've really you know,
Speaker 14: leaned into and looked up and kind of researched.
Speaker 6: But like when McMillan and.
Speaker 14: Madden and you know, all these old school broadcasters were
Speaker 14: together on the Fox team, they would collaborate because what
Speaker 14: happens is you have crossover tape.
Speaker 6: So think about it.
Speaker 14: You have a sixteen to eighteen game season, and you
Speaker 14: Paul the New Orleans Saints week two, and then you
Speaker 14: have the New Orleans Saints at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Speaker 14: week eighteen. Well, if you haven't seen New Orleans for
Speaker 14: sixteen weeks, that is a completely different ball club. And
Speaker 14: those narratives going into week two have changed in week eighteen.
Speaker 14: So it was interesting before the last game of the
Speaker 14: season together actually in the same place by happenstance. But
Speaker 14: I see Tom and he's working out. I'm working out,
Speaker 14: and he's like, Hey, I got the Saints. You just
Speaker 14: called their game this past weekend in New Orleans. What's
Speaker 14: the work. Talk to me about him a little bit.
Speaker 14: You had him versus the commander's boom. Now he's got
Speaker 14: the commander. So we're just talking and sharing ideas and stuff,
Speaker 14: and hey, man, here's what I saw, Here's where I
Speaker 14: think they got to get better. Here's what they're having
Speaker 14: problems with, Here's what they.
Speaker 7: Do really well.
Speaker 14: And this, this to me is their formula to win,
Speaker 14: you know, so when you watch the tape, i'd keep
Speaker 14: an eye on stuff like that, and he does the
Speaker 14: same thing in you know, back.
Speaker 2: And forth and building. Good. But but who can bench more?
Speaker 2: Between you and Tom Brady?
Speaker 6: Good bench more?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Oh, man, I don't know.
Speaker 2: No, he's he's he's all about it last y.
Speaker 14: Yeah, he's not a big like bench Yeah, he's not
Speaker 14: a big yeah. Pliability, all the bands and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 14: I'll tell you what he was.
Speaker 6: Getting it in that workout, though.
Speaker 9: Bro.
Speaker 14: I walked into the gym and I was like, I
Speaker 14: need a stretch. I just got off a flight, I
Speaker 14: had just arrived. I walked in with a pizza and sandals,
Speaker 14: and my man's over there like full Billy blanks, like
Speaker 14: ty Bo going hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 6: I was like whoa. And then I finally realized it
Speaker 6: with him. I was like, who is this guy?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 6: What are we doing?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 6: Sorry?
Speaker 7: Got it?
Speaker 6: What's up? Dude?
Speaker 2: Does Tom have a bunch of guys around him? They
Speaker 2: remind him how Grady looks like.
Speaker 14: No, no, no, he's you know, he's got a he's
Speaker 14: got a he's got a good group of people.
Speaker 6: And you know the trainer.
Speaker 14: You know he's got I'm over there just thinking back
Speaker 14: to my old workouts, like, yeah, I think I'm supposed
Speaker 14: to do.
Speaker 2: That's why you weigh too forty two Mark Easy.
Speaker 6: We're not body shaving here, We're not body shaving. This
Speaker 6: is okayd of Dad bod. This is a father figure.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's hot. Uh, final minute here. Cowboys job
Speaker 2: is blank. The Cowboys job is.
Speaker 6: Blank, interesting, wild available.
Speaker 2: I mean, those aren't compliments.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know who's best suited to take that job.
Speaker 14: Because if you go Dion, I think there's like he's
Speaker 14: started to catch up to that learning curve of coaching
Speaker 14: in college and clearly made progress. Right you can you
Speaker 14: can tangibly see like there's more wins than the year before.
Speaker 14: He got good players there. He knows how to motivate
Speaker 14: those kind of things. He's gonna need some really good
Speaker 14: coordinators if he's gonna stay that same mode. Unless he
Speaker 14: just goes hardcore coordinate the offense or coordinate the defense,
Speaker 14: he's gonna be more of a delegator when it comes
Speaker 14: to responsibilities coordinating wise. So I love that it'll give
Speaker 14: them a ton of attention it'll give them, you know,
Speaker 14: it'll that star will be shining awfully bright, which I
Speaker 14: know Jerry likes.
Speaker 6: But if we're talking.
Speaker 14: About somebody who's maybe a little more plug and play
Speaker 14: and obviously less media fodder and less you know, stuff
Speaker 14: like that, less energy that way, I mean, how about
Speaker 14: a guy who grew up in the building, who's done
Speaker 14: so well for you, who's over in Philly in your division,
Speaker 14: light in the world on fire and killing more. I mean,
Speaker 14: I'm just I just don't know if they do it,
Speaker 14: because it almost admits that they made a mistake by
Speaker 14: letting him go and keeping McCarthy at that point, right,
Speaker 14: So either way, this defense, I mean, you're gonna blow
Speaker 14: up this defense no matter what you're paying, Dack, you're
Speaker 14: paying CD might want to figure out how to dispurge
Speaker 14: some of that money a little bit. Got to revamp
Speaker 14: the whole line a little bit, but that defense was
Speaker 14: gonna get blown up no matter what.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 9: They were.
Speaker 6: They were hard to watch at times. They give up
Speaker 6: a lot of big plays.
Speaker 2: Before I let you go. The Bill's Ravens game comes
Speaker 2: down to.
Speaker 6: Turnovers.
Speaker 14: If Josh Allen takes care of the ball the way
Speaker 14: he does, and the way he's running it. That was
Speaker 14: their only achilles heel these last few years in the playoffs.
Speaker 14: It would be one bad fumble, one miss down the
Speaker 14: field trying to force the ball. If he plays turnover
Speaker 14: free football, which Joe Brady's got him doing. Their offensive coordinator,
Speaker 14: it's and you notice they're using Cook a lot more
Speaker 14: at the running back spot, not just running the ball,
Speaker 14: but catching the ball in the backfield. Josh has really
Speaker 14: stepped up his game and it's really just cutting down
Speaker 14: the mistakes and eliminating those turnovers. You look at a Stafford,
Speaker 14: you look at Josh Allen. The guys that play the
Speaker 14: best this time of the year, take care of the football.
Speaker 2: Safe travels, good luck.
Speaker 6: We appreciate you, buddy.
Speaker 2: The twins coming up and you got named.
Speaker 14: No, I'd like a poll question on that though, because
Speaker 14: they're identical twin girls. So we're gonna need, you know,
Speaker 14: some good ones. Giselle, my son wants to name him
Speaker 14: Fish and Chips. I told him that's a tough sell.
Speaker 14: Please meet my daughter Fish Like, what so I need
Speaker 14: Fritzy on that. I need I need the boys helping
Speaker 14: out of the day.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think you don't need Fritzy on that. No,
Speaker 2: you don't, we'll come up with something. Yeah, thank you, Mark,
Speaker 2: appreciate you guys. Mark Sanchanz