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Speaker 1: Lisa Lampanelli is not a licensed therapist or life coach.

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Speaker 1: She is a meddling advice giving yanta I know it all,

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Speaker 1: and her words come from her head, her heart, and

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Speaker 1: often out of her ass. His podcast should not be

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Speaker 1: misconstrued as therapy. I should be taking with a huge

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Speaker 1: strain of salt for entertainment purposes only.

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Speaker 2: These.

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Speaker 3: You need help, You're the problems. Come on, come do.

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Speaker 4: Go lamb, take a pill.

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Speaker 5: I think you're insane.

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Speaker 3: Do what I said, dumb ass, listen to me. Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 3: it's droll po Lisa, Oh, Lisa.

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Speaker 5: Don't I sound like mister Ed?

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Speaker 3: Is that a reference, by the way, that either of

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about?

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Speaker 5: Okay, what about you? Did you know that, Celia?

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Speaker 4: No, I've no.

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Speaker 5: I know a horse is a horse, of course, of course.

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Speaker 2: And.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: It's mister Ed.

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Speaker 3: He was a talking horse. In the fifties they had

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Speaker 3: the worst, yet slash best, most wholesome sitcoms because you

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Speaker 3: know why, no blacks. No, no, they had the worst sitcoms,

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Speaker 3: but they were wholesome.

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Speaker 5: So what was this guy who's like owns a horse.

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Speaker 3: That can talk and not once did the people growing

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Speaker 3: up in the fifties think oh, he fucks the horse.

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Speaker 3: I did, however, because I have a disease where I

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Speaker 3: think dirty all the time. We've talked about this, and

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Speaker 3: it's a disease that I enjoy and made a living

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Speaker 5: So mister ed I don't know why we're They almost

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Speaker 5: have weird.

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Speaker 3: Sitcoms like Hazel, where Hazel was the maid, the battle Axe,

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Speaker 3: the me if you will, and she's living with the Baxters,

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Speaker 3: and but she runs the ship. She's always like, get

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Speaker 3: mister Baxter, you getting fat? And he's like, oh, Hazel,

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Speaker 3: at your cooking? Like and that's supposed to be a punchline.

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Speaker 5: Dennis the Menace.

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Speaker 3: There's Dennis and he lives next door to mister Wilson, who,

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Speaker 3: by the way, in real life was a big corn holer,

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Speaker 3: but yet never molested Dennis, which proves that gay men

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Speaker 3: do not molest It's the straight one. You got to

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Speaker 3: watch for me, yep, which one.

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Speaker 5: Anyway?

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Speaker 3: It's Lisa Evan the Old Badly is the here with

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Speaker 3: shrink Thiss. I'm here with Nick Scope Leddy. You can

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Speaker 3: find him. I'm not letting you say it. You Nick

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Speaker 3: Scopes at TikTok and also the other one of Instagram,

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Speaker 3: and you can find Celia the clam producer at Celia

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Speaker 3: Underscore Underscore.

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Speaker 5: Remondou do you say it? How do you say it?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 5: Ramon?

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Speaker 2: Who?

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Speaker 6: She said a very classics?

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Speaker 5: Oh it's so Leggs. Anyway, we're just shut up, shut up.

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Speaker 3: We're doing a little short episode today to tide you

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Speaker 3: over till our January season two Paraba. Big news, folks,

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Speaker 3: We're back here January and we're revisiting some of our

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Speaker 3: past episodes. This week, we will revisit the one called

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Speaker 3: codependent Yes or code read.

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Speaker 5: This was an idea I had when I was like,

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Speaker 5: I gotta call someone. I have to talk. And then

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Speaker 5: I was like, wait a minute, how about you try

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Speaker 5: self soothing? Bitch said?

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Speaker 3: What was calling your friends and driving them freaking crazy?

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Speaker 3: Giving you twat bitch? Hate you so much, needy bitch.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, oh, wait, I have ways to regulate

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Speaker 3: my nervous system. I have, oh this thing called breathing

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Speaker 3: that I could do.

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Speaker 5: I have a tree. I could go touch touch a

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Speaker 5: fucking tree. It does a great deal for you.

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Speaker 3: I've touched rocks and it's done that that's some dirty

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Speaker 3: touch rocks.

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Speaker 6: But I have Rockefeller Center and touch a tree.

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Speaker 5: On touch of fucking stones.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: No, So we talked about when is it okay to

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Speaker 3: reach out to people and when should you just see

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Speaker 3: if you can handle it yourself without imploding?

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Speaker 5: So, Nick, do we have oon lettar?

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Speaker 6: We do? Dear Lisa, Wait.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask first, Celia, are you a big self soother?

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Speaker 3: I imagine you're a big pain in the ass as

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Speaker 3: a friend who calls and goes, oh my y, Lisa

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Speaker 3: is mean to me today. Let me play that episode

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Speaker 3: for a anartist.

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Speaker 5: No, do you? Are you more of us? Be honest.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to brag. You're a young kid.

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Speaker 3: You get to still be making mistakes. Do you tend

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Speaker 3: to go wait, I'm gonna try to solve this internally

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Speaker 3: or do just like, oh my god, such and such

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Speaker 3: a thing happened.

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Speaker 2: I think I I think I try to to self

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Speaker 2: it worse for myself, like spiraling, I didn't know how

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Speaker 2: to do it right, I would call my friends and

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Speaker 2: then I kind of had a wake up call after that,

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Speaker 2: and I actually experienced this yesterday like I had a

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Speaker 5: I heard about that. The Verizon guy called me. I

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Speaker 5: said it was really funny. He said, wow, she's unhinged.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And at first I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I have no one to talk to you about this,

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Speaker 2: like I don't know what to do. And I was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to follow it.

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Speaker 4: And so that's what I did.

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Speaker 3: Because Okay, that observes applause because honestly, that anxiety and

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Speaker 3: that spiraling once it's not going to solve it. But

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Speaker 3: once a plan is put into place, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: I can handle this. I can at least I'm aware

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Speaker 5: So that's a good tool for you.

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Speaker 2: And it worked because then I did complete my plan,

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Speaker 2: which was just kind of like go home, take a shower,

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Speaker 2: I was like, why was I so upset?

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Speaker 3: Like did that make Can I tell you be honest

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Speaker 3: today this happened to me today. Last night, one of

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Speaker 5: I brought it back.

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Speaker 3: But I wanted to talk to you and thank you

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Speaker 3: anyway in front of the whole class, because they think

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Speaker 3: it's they think it's safe. If I'm telling you in

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Speaker 5: Well guess what.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't work with me. So I was like, well,

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Speaker 3: last night. So today, on the way to meet Nick,

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm just gonna call my friend Amy

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Speaker 3: and just I'm gonna like fucking leave an audio message

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Speaker 3: but I'll send the audio message. I record the full

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Speaker 5: She would have been like, oh my god, that's awful.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 3: She shouldn't have done it that way, but I go, oh,

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Speaker 3: I got it out. I don't need to now burden

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Speaker 3: it's colmer and it's like not charged, who cares? And

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Speaker 3: I go, oh, just getting it out was nice. Then

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Speaker 3: Nick will tell you I was in a perfectly fine

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Speaker 5: Was like, oh, it's out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So it was sort of a combination of venting to

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Speaker 2: It's like when people say, like, if you feel a

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Speaker 4: Them and delete it. Yeah, and it kind of does work.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But once my roommates got home, I was like, they

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, you kind of forget why it was bad.

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Speaker 2: I was like listening to this story, then I'm laughing

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Speaker 2: It also helps to like put put your problems into perspective.

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Speaker 2: I was like, there are people pinching pennies out here, correct,

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Speaker 3: Well, that's like looking at things through a lens of

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Speaker 3: gratitude versus resentment. It's like just once the gratitude, it's like,

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Speaker 3: holy shit, I have a phone, I know, and I

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Speaker 5: I mean that is but it's true. Perspective is huge.

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Speaker 3: But also it's like giving yourself the chance to experiment

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Speaker 3: with like, let me see if I can handle this

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Speaker 5: So it is good to get it out a little.

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Speaker 4: Well, imploy it and then I and then I handled it.

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Speaker 5: That's all right, but it got there really well.

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Speaker 2: Like I think that I was actually pretty proud of

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Speaker 2: myself after Yeah, I would be too.

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Speaker 4: Like in my roommates, we're like, wow, like you handled

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, for someone your age, that's I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's you know, think about it. When you're three times

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Speaker 3: nailing it, you know, So I say you're onto something.

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Speaker 3: The only hopeless case in this room is Nick. Now

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Speaker 3: do we have a letter?

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Speaker 5: Nick?

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Speaker 3: Do we have one at Nick scopses dot com.

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Speaker 6: We do have a letter, Dear Lisa. I'm a guy

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Speaker 6: that holds everything in and deals with my wife's problems,

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Speaker 6: my kids problems, and my own problems. The joke is

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Speaker 6: that guys like me have heart attacks and die.

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Speaker 5: Oops.

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Speaker 6: I think complaining is pointless, and I'd say I only

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Speaker 6: explode in a tantrum two to three times a year.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, he has it on a chart that is healthy.

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Speaker 6: This guy's from Princet, New Jersey with a pussy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean I've originally live in Prince Then no,

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Speaker 3: so what wait? So he just holds it in and

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Speaker 3: explodes and I'm almost gonna guarantee explodes it the wrong people,

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Speaker 5: What do you think?

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Speaker 6: I mean a little from the waist down?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a lot. I mean, you got to find

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Speaker 6: But really, it doesn't I I Yeah, like she said,

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Speaker 3: I like when men cry appropriately, Like I'm very proud

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Speaker 3: I think guys like this guy writing in were somehow

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Speaker 5: In front of the kids. But just to have emotion

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I think I think too. It just depends,

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Speaker 6: More on sometimes, but he was not afraid to show

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Speaker 6: You can be that, you can be emotional, you can

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: It's just so sad and guys turn into these artificial

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Speaker 3: people who aren't even showing anything. Like you've teared up

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I know him better now, you know.

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Speaker 3: And only after I pointed at you and called you

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Speaker 6: And the weird part is when you point at me

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Speaker 6: and called me a fag, I came in my pants.

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Speaker 3: It's happening for Celia right now. I see that chair

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Speaker 3: going up and down.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I do scissor. Oh my god, Like.

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Speaker 3: Listen, Celia, how much money would it take if you

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Speaker 3: had to have sex with Nick?

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Speaker 5: Like how much money would it take? Like like a

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Speaker 5: million or ten thousand? No, I just feel.

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Speaker 6: I would write it off as charity works, So don't

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Speaker 3: Would it like seriously, because we all have a price.

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Speaker 3: Would it would it be? I don't know how much

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Speaker 3: one hundred grand, would you'd be like, I'll take one

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Speaker 3: for the team. Why because of daddy.

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Speaker 4: Need more money than that?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 3: More to Nick? Is that not not because he's unattractive?

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Speaker 3: Is it because it's just like, oh we know each

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Speaker 4: Not in like the age.

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Speaker 2: No, it's just there's a huge age gap that's not

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Speaker 4: What do you have a girl?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I am New York City?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: What are you? Twenty three?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's why.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't fuck Nick, among other o't fuck fats anymore.

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Speaker 3: The age gap is really big. Sixty four to thirty

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Speaker 3: seven is gross. I think sixty four to forty five

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Speaker 4: So eleven years yeah, Cecilia.

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Speaker 6: I also think though, okay to me, okay, but like no,

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Speaker 6: They definitely have money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hang out, what's wrong?

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Speaker 3: What's fucking?

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Speaker 4: You know, my parents had a fourteen year age gap, so.

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Speaker 5: That worked out exactly.

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Speaker 2: So like I just think, I think, no, I either

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Speaker 4: Older than I am.

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Speaker 6: For sure.

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Speaker 4: I hate that. I mean, I was told the other

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Speaker 5: It's just yeah, that the need for botox.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, she looks, she looks. It is the

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Speaker 6: way I forget that you're twenty tho.

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Speaker 3: You comport yourself as if you are a older soul.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I if I'm loving that, you know,

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Speaker 2: my that's good. I don't know, because I don't I

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Speaker 5: What would you be this way? Shut up? Everybody? Shut up?

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Speaker 5: Shut up?

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Speaker 4: Everyone.

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Speaker 3: You're you accept yourself the way you are. Who cares

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Speaker 3: if you like it? You just start liking yourself this way.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm loving that?

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Speaker 5: Too bad? Too bad? Mister? Where can people listen?

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Speaker 2: Nick?

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