WEBVTT - UFOs, Spies, and Pizzagate: The Clinton Epstein Deposition  0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:08.640 Also media welcome to it could happen here show about 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.200 things falling apart. The thing falling apart this week is 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:16.960 me after watching nine hours of Clinton testimony the past 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:21.320 two days. It can relate. I'm Garrison Davis. I'm joined 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:27.680 by Sophie Lechtervid to discuss guys. Hey, Sophie, Hey. 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:30.200 To discuss the Clinton testimony. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:32.960 I was gonna say, I can relate after you know 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.600 you fortunately missed that Clinton speech at the DNC in 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:37.560 twenty twenty four. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.800 Bill Clinton, that was a really really, really really long 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:43.720 hour of my life. 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:46.840 That's a long speech for a guy that age too. 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.920 Yeah, but we were together during Hillary's speech. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.000 We did catch that while we're in the pit. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.520 I think that's when I got COVID. I got the 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.480 Clinton COVID. Hillary got COVID too at the DNC, so 0:00:58.520 --> 0:00:59.480 I think she gave it to me. 0:00:59.640 --> 0:00:59.960 There you go. 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:02.880 That's when we were up close and personal with the 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.360 Clintons last. Now they're back. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:08.880 They've never been more back, They've never been more I 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:12.319 completely agree. If you don't want to hear the voices, 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:14.000 I've tried to limit it, but there's gonna be some 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:18.120 the voices of Hillary and or Bill Clinton. This is 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.160 your chance if you want to hear me talk about 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:27.120 Hillary being asked about everything from spies to aliens and quanon. 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.720 It's again, this is your sign to continue. 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.480 Yeah. So I'm excited. Let's do this. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.440 Yeah, let's get started, because there's probably more more to 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.080 cover than what we'll be able to so. On February 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.000 twenty sixth and twenty seventh, Hillary and Bill Clinton respectively 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:44.640 testified and closed door hearings about their relationship with Jeffrey 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.960 Epstein and Galaine Maxwell. The Clinton's referst to penay to 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.840 testify in this bipartisan House Oversight Committee investigation into the 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.960 DOJ's handling of the Epstein investigation back in August of 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.640 twenty twenty five. For months, they pushed back against having 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.560 to testify, arguing the process was politically motivated, that the 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:06.680 subpoenas were quote unquote invalid and legally unenforceable, and that 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.400 any relevant information they had could be delivered via assigned statement. 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.960 In January twenty twenty six, Chairman James Comer advanced two 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:18.080 resolutions recommending the Clintons be held in contempt of Congress 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.880 for refusing to comply days before a vote to hold 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:26.120 them in contempt. The Clintons finally agreed to testify in February. 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.080 Yeah, to be fair, they did let other people give 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:30.520 little shitty statements. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.440 They so did. That is something that Hillary specifically brought 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:39.280 up during her deposition more than once. Yes, So let's 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:40.839 start with Hillary's because that was the first one. 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:41.360 Yeah. 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.040 In her opening statement, she said she had no knowledge 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:49.360 of Jeffrey Epstein's criminal activities, did not ever recall encountering 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:54.079 Jeffrey Epstein whatsoever, never flown on the plane or visited 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:58.840 his Island homes or offices. Gleayne Maxwell dated a family 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.720 friend around twenty ten he named Ted Waite, who was 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:06.560 a software developer. Waite brought Glaine to Hillary's Daughters of 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.959 Chelsea's wedding as a plus one guest in twenty ten, 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.360 and Hillary says she was unaware of any criminal activity 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:17.840 relating to Glene Maxwell, specifically before her crimes republicly revealed 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:22.240 a few years ago. Hillary was asked to recount the 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.320 origin of the Clintown Foundation, which Hillary only joined the 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.920 board of in twenty thirteen because she was busy serving 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.480 in office. Hillary was asked about Glene Maxwell leading a 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:35.840 breakout session on ocean conservation at a Clinton Global Initiative 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.880 conference in twenty thirteen. Hillary said that she was not 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.720 involved in the selection process for those sessions, but that 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:45.400 Glen Maxwell had been an internationally recognized ocean advocate around 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.960 that time. Hillary refused to answer a question about whether 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.560 her husband is a quote unquote smart guy. 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:53.880 Which was who asked that question? 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.480 I forget, but I had that note written down some 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.880 of these things I was watching pretty pretty late. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:04.200 Yeah, yeah, what a great question. Hey, Hill babe, is 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:10.160 your husband a smart guy? Wow? Glad our tax dollars 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:11.960 are funding such an important question. 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:16.320 She said that her husband had a limited relationship with 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:20.120 Epstein for a limited time. Yes, used his airplane for 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:24.719 Clinton Foundation trips, and this connection began and ended before 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:29.480 any of Epstein's crimes were publicly revealed. Representative Pat Fallen 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.200 with the Republican Majority talked about how Jeffy Epstein visited 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:37.120 the White House seventeen times under the Clint Did administration. 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.000 This is mostly for White House Historical Association events and 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:44.640 donated money to the White House Historical Association, but said 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:49.120 that Epstein never visited under Trump or donated money to Trump. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:54.239 This could in fact, just be simply because the Trump admin. 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:57.440 You know, Trump came into office after Trump's relationship with 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:02.400 Epstein fell through and Epstein was convicted of sex crimes. Correct. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.040 Trump got into office at twenty sixteen. Clinton was in 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.360 office in the early nineties. Yeah, that's why Epstein was 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.800 able to visit the White House for these public events 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.719 as a regular citizen, but did not do so when 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:15.080 Trump was president. 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.080 Yeah, prior to Epstein's first conviction. 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:23.120 Yeah, two thousand and eight. Yeah. Pat Fown also tried 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.280 to characterize a twenty thousand dollars donation to a joint 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.960 campaign fund in the nineties as a donation to Hillary's 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.840 presidential campaign fund. Many years later, he was called on 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.680 this being obviously incorrect. 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.400 Come on, man, that's so dumb. 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:40.440 There was a lot of stuff like that, So a 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.880 lot of small errors. Some of them may not have 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.640 been arrows right, some of them may have been ways 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.960 to make the transcript read a certain way if Hillary 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.719 or the lawyers weren't able to catch something. But both 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.920 Hillary and her team, but really mostly Hillary was really 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.640 on it for this entire hearing, like very sharp. 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.440 This was peak Hillary. I feel like a lot of 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.799 people you know, for a lot of the like analysis 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.600 online I saw, you know, a take over and over 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.320 again that that was like, why wasn't she like this 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:08.960 when she ran for president? She was? 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.200 This is this is Hillary she was, and it's you know, 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.200 it's impressive, but also a little bit unlikable. For if 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.360 you do that, if you do that like all the time, right. 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.560 If you're like that all the time, it's a little 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.039 bit Oh, okay, I'm going to take a step back. 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:23.360 Now. 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:28.200 That's a lot, but you know, yeah, we'll have we'll 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.720 have more on her sort of like intellectual sharpness later. 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:37.160 I mean, she's fiercely intelligent. Yeah, fiercely intelligent. 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:38.479 And that is that is that is on display for 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:39.920 the entirety of this deposition. 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.120 But I really hated the take where people were like, 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:45.800 if she was like this when she ran for president, 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.120 maybe we wouldn't be dealing with Donald Trump. 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:48.360 Now. 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:52.200 It's like, no, that's not what happened. No, this is 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.640 who Hillary's been her entire adult life. Thank you. 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.200 Hillary said that she never slicted funds for Jeffrey Epstein, 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.160 ever had funds listed on her behalf, and never invited 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:06.080 Epstein to any political fundraisers when asked about her own 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:10.760 speculation on her husband, previous investigators, or the mind state 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:14.760 of Jeffrey Epstein and Glen Maxwell. She could not answer, 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:19.000 because that is speculation on other people's opinions or mind states. 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:24.880 About an hour in Nancy Mace asked Hillary Clinton if 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.600 she believes the Epstein files are quote unquote a vast 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.720 right wing conspiracy. 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.880 I think if they are fully released, as the Transparency 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:43.840 Act requires, that would be fulfilling the responsibility of the 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:47.679 Justice Department. But it appears that there have been many 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.520 issues with the full release, so I'm not going to 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.320 characterize it other than to say I think that's a 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:55.840 well known fact. 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.040 It is certainly an odd question to ask if the 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:03.720 files themselves are a vast right wing conspiracy, and Hillary 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.360 here just answered by talking about the issues that have 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.200 come up with the full release of the Epstein files. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.280 After this, Hillary has asked about whether Jeffrey Epstein was 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.920 one of the most prolific sex traffickers in the world 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:22.120 and how the State Department worked to counter international sex trafficking. 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.239 Would you say he's one of the world's most prolific 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:25.120 sex traffickers. 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.160 I don't know what to compare it. To there are 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.840 terrible sex trafficking rings all over the. 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.199 World, and you were he said. You were Secretary of 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.320 State from two thousand and nine to twenty thirteen, and 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.960 you state your agency prioritized combating sex trafficking internationally. 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:41.199 Correct, that's correct. 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.680 During your time as Secretary of State, did you or 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.360 the State receive any intelligence cables or briefings mentioning Epstein's 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.800 foreign travel, pedophile island, or his network of pedophiles and 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:52.360 sex traffick not that I am aware of. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.559 No, how did you miss it? 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.080 If he's I believe, one of the most prolific sex 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.640 traffickers in the world, you were Secretary of State, how 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:02.280 did you miss it? 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.200 Well, that would have been a matter of the Justice Department, 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:06.400 not the State Department. 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.520 But in your opening statement and your statements earlier, in 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.880 your opening statement, you stated that Secretary of Rubio should 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:14.199 be called to testify. You said that he has and 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.680 the administration has quote abandoned survivors using the same logic. 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.560 You were Secretary of State during a time period after 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.920 Jeffrey Epstein was convicted of being a pedophile and soliciting 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.840 children for sex. Why then, did you quote using your 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:28.560 own logic abandoned survivors. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:30.440 Uh, what is the question? 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:30.800 Please? 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:38.640 I followed her comment. First of all, we focused on 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:44.439 whether there were laws that made sex trafficking, sexual slavery, 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:49.679 domestic violence, other abuses of women on the books in countries. 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.160 And then we tried to evaluate were those laws being 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:59.079 implemented and were judges appropriately trained and briefed about how 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:04.000 to implement those laws, were governments taking them seriously? We 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:10.520 looked at the broad institutional approach to these very serious abuses. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:16.760 This is an interesting exchange to me. Yeah, so Mace 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:21.559 here doesn't really understand the role of the Justice Department 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:25.719 versus the State Department. Yes, for the Justice Department investigates 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.360 crimes committed in the United States, versus the State Department 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:33.280 is this entity that pressures other countries to create or 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.840 you know, improve sex trafficking laws and doesn't really understand 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.920 this difference right, and refers to a part in Hillary's 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.800 opening statement about how Rubio's shrunk specific office to combat 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:47.040 international sex trafficking, and she isn't quite able to like 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:51.920 to understand how Hillary is critiquing that, while also saying 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:55.520 that the Justice Department mishandled the Epstein investigation while she 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:59.560 was Secretary of State. It's this interesting just break and 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.319 not really understanding how the government works. And this clip 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.480 also shows like how sharp Hillary is being able to 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.120 follow this line of questioning better than her own lawyers 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.439 in some instances be able to actually like respond to 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.080 what Mace is really asking. 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:13.680 Notice that as well. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.680 Mace then continues to ask about how the US government 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:21.920 handled Jeffrey Epstein's first criminal case, and this is how 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:23.040 Clinton responded. 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.360 Would you say the US government at that time, during 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.720 this time period was appropriate with the way that it 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:28.840 handled Epstein. 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.760 I don't think that you could say that was true 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:38.280 about any of the government's prosecutorial efforts, starting with the 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:42.360 Southern District of Florida and alex Acosta and all those 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.720 who basically gave him a sweetheart deal. And then I 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.880 think going up the chain there was very little attention 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.600 paid that should have been paid. But what we had 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.920 laws on the books, they were not being implemented. But 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.880 that was not within my purview because what we were 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.640 looking at is what's the institutional structure and can we 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.520 do more to make sure countries take it seriously. Our 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.480 country had laws on the books, So this man was 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.520 not held to account you, It was not in your 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.679 purview when you were Secretary of State. Then why is 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.800 it today in Secretary of Rubios? Because what's happened is 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:19.600 that the office that was actually following what was going 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:24.640 on around the world has been decimated. Seventy percent of 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.120 the staff is gone. It's impossible to carry out the 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:32.760 functions of that office if you don't have a critical 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:37.360 number of people. So my question would be to Secretary Rubio, 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.199 is there more that can be done out of time here? 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:45.880 Wow? Yeah, Nancy Mace, you suck, You suck. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.000 Pretty clear articulation there from Secretary Clinton. 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:54.240 Yeah, I fear that like that, Nancy Mace spent most 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:58.600 of this time trying to set Hillary up, and I 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.280 don't think she I don't think she succeeded. 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.560 No. Hillary was then asked if she was quote unquote 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.880 concerned when she saw photos of her husband getting a 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.640 back massage or in a pot tub and what went 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:15.000 through her mind. Hillary refused to speculate on events in 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.720 which she has no context for and was not there. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.400 We're going to go on a quick ad break now 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:34.120 and then return to continue the discussion on the Clinton testimony. 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.880 All right, we're back. I want to get a little 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.640 bit into the background of this hearing some more so. 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:47.080 When the Clintons finally agreed to testify in February, one 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.000 of the things they pushed for was that the testimony 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:54.160 take the form of public hearings broadcast live. Hillary addressed 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.319 German comra online saying, quote, you love to talk about transparency. 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.520 There's nothing more transparent than a public hearing camera onquote. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.120 There was a brief back and forth negotiation on what 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:07.679 the depositions would be open to the public. Ultimately they 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:11.199 were not, but they were recorded on camera and transcribed 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:16.079 for later release. Part of the terms for this private 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:20.000 hearing this deposition was that press and photographers were not 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:24.240 allowed inside the room, and that deposition materials would only 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:28.600 be released in full through official channels after sensitive information 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.600 like staffer names, president of the deposition and off the 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:35.520 record exchanges between lawyers were properly removed or redacted. At 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:40.600 about an hour and twenty minutes into Hillary's deposition, the 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.640 Clinton staff learned that one of the Republican committee members 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.760 leaked a photo of Hillary to right wing influencer Benny 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:53.440 Johnson Crazy, who posted the picture and wrote quote breaking 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.280 the first image of Hillary Clinton testifying under oath but 0:14:56.400 --> 0:15:00.200 Jeffrey Epstein to the Republican Oversight Committee. This is the 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:04.760 first time Hillary has had to answer real questions about Epstein. 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:09.480 Clinton does not look happy. Photo provided by Representative Lauren Bobert. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:14.520 Honestly, there's actually nobody more unprofessional than Lauren Bobert. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:19.280 Will get into her unprofessional conduct later in this hearing 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.960 as well. Great, but here's a clip of the Clinton 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.200 team realizing that a photo has been leaked. 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.440 I have another photos that are being released of the 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.520 secretary as she is testifying from inside this room. Can 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.560 you please advise me as to whether or not that's 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:36.000 permissible and consistent with the rules, particularly given that we 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.200 have asked for public hearing. If there are photos that 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.080 are being released of the secretary she is testifying, can 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:43.160 you please explain how. 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:44.960 Much I've done with this. If you guys are doing that, 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.120 I am done. You can hold me a contempt from 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.280 now till the cows come home. This is just typical behavior. 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:53.520 Oh for heaven, I would like. 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.640 To understand how that's permissible hearing. 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:58.360 It doesn't matter. 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.680 We all are abiding by the rules. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.080 Yeah, well, I would like to take a break at 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.400 this movie I'd like to have done for now. 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.800 Fair threw up the record. Pretty shocking stuff. 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:15.760 There's no defense for that. That's that's wild, and uh 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:17.240 I would walk out as well. 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.080 When they went back on the record, Chairman Comer discussed 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.240 how he advised all members that no photos of the 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.800 deposition were to be released and that an instant like 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:30.040 this would not happen again. Lauren Barber later told reporters 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.920 that she took the picture before a testimony actually began 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:37.000 and that she checked with committee staff about using the photo. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:38.760 No follow up on that. 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.960 Yeah, that chance, it's embarrassing. 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:48.600 After returning from off the record, the minority, the Democrats 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.920 asked about the Justice Department illegally withholding certain files related 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:57.640 to the investigation from public disclosure. Hillary says that this 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.480 behavior by the Justice Department deserves the most thoroughn destigation 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.879 that Congress could carry out. This will be a longer clap, 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.840 about two minutes, but there's some good information inside. 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.399 I think from the very beginning, the behavior of the 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:22.200 Attorney General and her staff has demonstrated either a gross incompetence, 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:26.480 which is bothersome because they are the keepers of information 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:34.480 that should be evaluated for law enforcement purposes or a 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:39.399 clear cover up because they are protecting the president and others. 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.840 Either one of those should be the focus of this 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.679 committee to try to get to the bottom. If they 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:52.560 are incompetent and they are incapable of complying with the 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:56.200 law that the Congress passed, we need to know that 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.040 because they are falling down on the job. They have 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:02.320 an FBI director is more interested in drinking beer in 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:08.840 a hockey dressing room after our team won the Olympics 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:14.800 rather than being responsive and complying with the law as 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:22.920 it has been promulgated. So I don't think it's unfair 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:27.360 to say that given the sequencing of the event, starting 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.480 with the way that President Trump made the release of 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:35.720 the files a key element of his twenty twenty four campaign, 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:41.240 the promise that he and then his Attorney General made 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:45.399 that the files would be released, then a walking back 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.120 of that as they began to look at the files, 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:53.520 an ignoring of what they had promised, including that they 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:57.119 had a client list on the desk of the Attorney General. 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:04.119 Reasonable people would have to assume they are engaged in 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:10.200 a massive cover up, which is infuriating as an American 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:14.040 as a citizen, all of us should be, regardless of party, 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.880 wondering what are they hiding? 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.239 The thing says I watched sports more than calling it 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:25.560 a hockey dressing room dressing room, I was like Hillary 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:26.760 up with the times. 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:27.720 Uh. 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.240 Hillary goes on to mention how the prosecutor the original 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:36.760 Epstein case, alex Acosta, was not asked any questions by 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:41.920 Republicans during his Epstein deposition. About half an hour later, 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.399 Hillary and the Majority go into about a three minute 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.479 exchange thing. This is between Hillary and Nancy Mace about 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:53.240 Howard Lutnick, Trump's Commerce secretary, who's frequently named in the files, 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.560 whom Hillary knew from being a New York senator during 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.840 the nine to eleven attacks, where Lutnik lost the highest 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.880 of employees out of anyone that day, like over six hundred. 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:08.080 So Hillary was asked how she knows Lutnik. Hillary tries 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.000 to respond by saying how they met, which was the 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:14.399 aftermath of nine to eleven. Mace claims that this is 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.040 like a distraction from answering the question and that Hillary's 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.960 trying to garner sympathy. Things get very heated over over 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:21.520 the course of these like three minutes, as they like 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.600 argue about, you know, if she's actually answering the question. 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.800 Mace talks about being a survivor herself, and now she's 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.120 trying to, you know, get the truth out of these hearings. 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:33.200 Hillary responds by talking about how she's been very sympathetic 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:35.920 to Mace's situation and respects the work that she's doing 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:39.560 in the Epstein hearings, but is trying to answer the 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:43.320 question specifically about Lutnik. It's a pretty loud and contentious 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:48.840 three minutes. About two minutes after that, Republicans made Hillary 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.639 read emails from the Epstein files. 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:57.040 Thank you for a fun night. Your littlest girl was 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:58.080 a little naughty. 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:00.000 How does that make you feel? 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:00.840 Makes me sick? 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:05.640 If you can also read the EFTA zers zero eight 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:10.280 seven eight four two one. This is also another email. 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.399 Can you just please provide the context. 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:16.720 It's an email to Jeffrey Epstein, if you could just 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:18.919 read the context of what it is. 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:27.800 Of course, the O H Jesus, ohio Jesus, I'm coming trick. 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.400 And just the main body of the context of the email. 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:33.760 Said that she felt God's presence next her when she 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.320 was in bed. She knows that Jesus watches over her 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:38.159 and he helped save her life. 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:38.879 Whoops. 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:40.240 How does that make you feel? 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.080 It's bizarre. I don't know what it means. 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.880 The reason I asked you to read both of these 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:50.040 is because these emails are both sent by co conspirators 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:52.600 that were then given the plea deals and now have 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.040 been given victim status. 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:57.119 Both of these. 0:21:56.880 --> 0:22:02.000 Women were also named an FBI document, and they're on 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:03.399 a number of other emails. 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:06.000 What does that have to do with Hillary? 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.800 Yes, that's the exact thing that I wrote down. This 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:13.440 has no relevance to Clinton at all. This, this doesn't 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:13.960 relate to her. 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:16.879 They wanted soundbites of her reading weird things. 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:19.920 It's a humiliation ritual, right, It's yeah, there's no reason 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.320 for them to do this that the majority just go 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:25.679 on to ask Hillary if the DOJ should reevaluate the 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:29.120 plea deals of these two people, something that Hillary has 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:32.640 no expertise for. Like, that's what she's here to testify 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:36.399 on her own knowledge relating to Epstein and Maxwell. This 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:38.960 is this is a complete non sequitor. This doesn't relate 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:41.760 to her in any way. It's just grosse. You're just 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.000 you're just getting a woman to read the Epstein files 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:48.359 for your own entertainment. Yes, it's disgusting. Yes, I have 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:53.480 a few clips here. This is what three clips about 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:59.320 her intellectual kind of ruthlessness and the ways that the 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:01.879 question in this committee, we're trying to get certain asses 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.959 out of her, and she was able to either correct 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:09.600 them or navigate in an interesting way. I'll start with 0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:14.080 this first one at three and a half hours in gosh, 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:15.120 you watched a lot. 0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:20.159 In twenty fourteen, Epstein met with William Burns, who was 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:24.720 then a senior State Department official and later a CIA director. 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:26.920 Excuse me, could you say what year that was? 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:27.280 Again? 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:28.960 In twenty fourteen. 0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:31.320 In twenty fourteen he met with William Burns. 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:36.320 Epstein met with William Burns as as a Secretary of 0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:37.080 State at that time. 0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:38.560 Were you aware of that meeting? 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:40.880 I wasn't secretary of State in twenty fourteen. 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:43.000 Okay, were you aware of them? 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:44.080 I was Master Burns. 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:48.440 Okay, embarrassing stuff. Yeah, she was not secretary of state 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.879 in twenty fourteen. She served from twenty nine to two 0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:54.399 US and thirteen. Asking a question about if she was 0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:56.639 informed of something, well, secretary of State in twenty fourteen, 0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.160 she simply was not there. She was not secretary of State. 0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:02.320 The people in this committee should know this. They should 0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:05.480 know when she actually served as Secretary of State. It's 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:09.560 embarrassing they continued to get like dates wrong throughout this 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:13.080 hearing that this guy who's asking this question is his representative, 0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:18.280 Eric Berlinson. He also mischaracterized Chelsea's wedding as Hillary's wedding, 0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:21.480 saying that Glen Maxwell attended Hillary's wedding and that Glene 0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:26.080 Maxwell vacationed with Chelsea after the wedding. This event that 0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.280 he's referencing, this vacation was actually a year before the wedding, 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:30.919 and who has a nine Hillary and her lawyers had 0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:35.320 to correct all of that stuff. Specifically, Eric Berlinson did 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:37.360 not seem to know what he was talking about at 0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:40.480 all in this hearing. Just constantly got little dates and 0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:41.120 facts wrong. 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:44.040 That gives me pause for a number of reasons. But 0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.399 it just makes me think about, you know, if they 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:52.360 were actually talking to somebody that they needed to deeply press, yeah, 0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.359 that they would not get the results needed. It gives 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.240 me a major pause that they have lack of confidence 0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:02.280 in this committee to do their job. But it's it's 0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:04.840 just frankly embarrassing that these are elected officials and they 0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:06.800 can't even get their dates right. 0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.520 Yeah, this is an extremely serious matter, and these are 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.119 the people doing oversight. 0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.080 This is not a laughing matter. 0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:16.800 Yeah, they are totally incompetent. 0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:17.760 Yeah. 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.800 Lauren Barber then asked a very leading question about when 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:24.240 Hillary learned her husband was spending time with a registered 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:24.960 sex offender. 0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.560 Miss Clinton, when did you first learn that your husband 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:32.600 was spending time extensively with a registered sex offender? 0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:40.040 He did not after he was convicted, years after Bill stopped. 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.960 Having any Were there any activities that raised any red 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.160 flags to think that he could be charged of sex 0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:47.520 crimes during the time, are you asking? 0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.800 Clinton has awareness yes, of Jeffrey Epstein. 0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:54.800 Of any red flags being brought to your awareness, to 0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:58.560 your family's awareness while your husband was spending time with 0:25:58.640 --> 0:25:59.440 Jeffrey Epstein. 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.679 I have no recollection of anyone bringing any red flags 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:02.960 to me. 0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.359 They continued to ask about her husband, and she just 0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:08.199 had to She just had to keep reiterating it, like 0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:11.879 the committee will have a chance to question her husband tomorrow, 0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.480 like they could ask him about his relationship with it 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.760 Epstein tomorrow. There's no use in her speculating about her 0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:21.080 husband's relationship. They can just ask him, literally in less 0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.399 than twenty four hours. But they just kept they just 0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:24.200 kept going. 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:26.160 Classic. 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:27.119 You know. 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:34.480 One of the more bizarre moments they quoted Epstein referring 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:38.919 to Hillary being prettier in person. And this exchange is 0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:43.639 interesting because of the way it suggests the committee's interpretation 0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:45.640 of certain statements made by Epstein when I think they 0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.440 probably infer something to the opposite. 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.640 It's bizarre, just like weird misogyny going on. 0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:55.920 So regarding the Epstein files, there are many files where 0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:59.879 Jeffrey Epstein seems to speak as though he does know 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:07.000 you personally. In one file ft A zero zero six 0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:15.680 five seven one one five, mister Epstein is commenting and 0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:20.680 he quotes, Hey, Hillary Clinton is much prettier in person. 0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:26.000 This was Tuesday, September twentieth, twenty eleven. And then another. 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.400 Congresson I'm not going to object to that keeps me. 0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.320 Commiss can we see the documents because we don't think 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.120 that we would get that present. 0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:40.240 They don't think the documents not that you're not pretty. 0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:45.800 Jeffrey Epstein is also commented that meetings with Hillary are 0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:50.520 not easily discreet. Has he ever connected someone to meet 0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.040 with you, not that I'm aware of. 0:27:52.560 --> 0:28:01.800 Okay, this is my first time seeing that clip. 0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:07.880 That's so funny. First of all, very funny. Second of all, 0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.760 this is not what this is supposed to be. Why 0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.000 are you bringing that up? What does that have to 0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:13.760 do with anything? 0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.040 Yeah, I mean they're trying to establish some sort of 0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.240 relationship between Hillary and Epstein. 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:20.480 Purely, but it doesn't exist. 0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.679 And to me, these exchanges just inferred that, you know, 0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.639 Jeffrey Epstein had seen Hillary in person before, likely at 0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:29.080 these White House Historical Association events where she sees you know, 0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:31.840 hundreds of people who like walk by, right. But then 0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.800 Epstein himself like expressed that it's actually difficult to get 0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.160 a private meeting with her. So this, this doesn't prove 0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.240 that they had any actual, like personal knowledge of each other, 0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.720 like mutually. Obviously Epstein knew who she was. She was 0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:45.640 the first Lady of the United States. 0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.520 Absolutely. It's ridiculous. 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.800 About ten minutes later, and this is getting to the 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.960 end of this hearing about, like, you know, four hours in, 0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.040 Hillary just kind of goes off a little bit after 0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.040 just being asked the same question again and again and again, 0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:04.720 and then also demonstrates like how much she actually knows 0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:06.160 about this committee's investigation. 0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.720 You have said that you have never been to mister 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:11.240 Epstein's island. Is that correct? 0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:16.160 You know what, I am so tired of answering that question. 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.640 If you have one sentilla of evidence to the contrary, 0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:24.560 put it forward. I have never been on his island period. 0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:29.360 I've never been in his homes, his offices, his anything. 0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:31.840 So I don't know how many times you have to 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:35.320 say the same thing over and over and over again. 0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:39.040 And I just am struggling with the relevance of all 0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:40.960 of this. But no, I never have been. 0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:44.640 And based off that response, I would include, you've never 0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.520 been to mister Epstein's Manhattan town home. I have not 0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:49.240 his New Mexico ranch. 0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:49.640 No. 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:51.800 I have not his Palm Beach residence. 0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:52.080 No. 0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.360 I have not his Paris apartment. 0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:56.400 Didn't know he had one. 0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:57.440 I haven't been there. 0:29:58.680 --> 0:29:58.840 You know. 0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.160 I also find it very interesting because I went back 0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:08.520 and looked at the transcripts of all of your other depositions, 0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:14.120 and none of the Republicans asked a single question to 0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:20.040 any witness about Jeffrey Epstein, or any question that would 0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.200 help provide answers for his victims. 0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:27.680 Hillary goes on to say that Republican Chairman Comer did 0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:32.320 ask Attorney General bar not about Epstein, but if he 0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:37.200 was aware of clinton involvement in the twenty sixteen Russia 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:42.400 collusion investigation. Again in a deposition about the DOJ's handling 0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:48.640 of the Epstein files. Completely relevant, completely relevant to the 0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:52.080 matter at hand. And if these people want to pretend 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.560 that they actually take, you know, what happened to these 0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:58.600 victims seriously, then they would have a focused effort on 0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:04.040 the actual subject. All these wild partisan threads. And I'm 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.040 now gonna discuss before before we before we go and 0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.400 break again about how this hearing kind of threwout it. 0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:12.240 But I've condensed this down into one section, turned towards 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:18.160 the weird multiple times in ways that are sometimes you know, relevant, 0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.760 but oftentimes not. Earlier in this hearing, Hillary stated that 0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.720 she had never been briefed on whether Jeffrey Epstein had 0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:29.320 foreign intelligence ties while serving in office, but that speculation 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.320 that Jeffrey Epstein could have been a foreign intel asset 0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:36.200 is a quote unquote fruitful area of investigation. Although she 0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:37.920 was not made aware of any connection of this sort 0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.760 wild Secretary of State, she was also asked about a 0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:44.960 passport belonging to Epstein which bore a different name. 0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.120 This is actually a passport that was given. The individual's 0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:52.120 name is Marcus Robert Fortinelli. Do you think that this 0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:56.720 is a sign or a telltale sign of intelligence operations 0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:57.800 and pseudonymes. 0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:00.760 I can't speculate, I don't, okay. 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.800 Victims have stated to this committee, both Democrats and Republicans, 0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:10.520 that during Epstein's time, during his daycamp DALs what I'll 0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.520 call it, that he was also an active communication with 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.920 Bush's CIA director. They also had stated that he had 0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:21.479 active ties to Russia, Israel, and I Ron. Given your 0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.320 status not just as the first Lady, but also in 0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.800 your secretary position, have you ever been targeted by any 0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:31.080 of these countries as a means of a foreign intelligence 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:35.480 gathering operation? I you were potential vulnerabilities. 0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.000 And yeah, I was targeted by Russia in the twenty 0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:38.040 sixteen campaign. 0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:39.840 I mean I think that's pretty well known. 0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:41.320 What about Israel Aribran? 0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.760 I don't know about either Israel or Iran? 0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:46.080 Okay. 0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.840 Do you believe that Epstein was running potentially a honeypop 0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.800 operation with intelligence gathering operations to collect information on how 0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:56.120 high profile individuals, both Democrat Republican the United States in 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:57.520 an effort to sway. 0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:00.080 Are foreign policy. 0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:01.560 Is it possible. 0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:03.520 I have no direct knowledge, but I think it's one 0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:06.240 of the areas your committee should investigate. Do you think 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:10.040 it's possible, Well, it is certainly possible. It's a tried 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.959 and true technique of certain intelligence agencies. 0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.720 Do you believe that he was using Honeypott's an effort to. 0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:17.360 I can't sarraculate. 0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:21.920 I don't know what this is such a weird use 0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:23.360 of their time. 0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:25.640 Later, she said that she had no reason to believe 0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.200 that personally she was the subject of an intel gathering 0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:32.280 operation relating to Jeffrey Epstein or Glene Maxwell. And then 0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.440 right after she was asked if she was ever denied 0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:41.560 access to information about youaps that's an unidentified aerial phenomenon. 0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.640 Hilary said that she was never denied access because she 0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:48.239 never asked for access. When questions, she said that she 0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.719 believes the American public deserves access to such topics subject 0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:55.640 to national security implications. This bizarre off topic line of 0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:59.680 questioning continued nearly an hour later into the hearing. 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:04.480 Going to begin with some lighthearted different questions and You're 0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.000 welcome to ignore them or if you want to. But 0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:09.840 while I have you here, I just have to ask. So, 0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:14.520 when your husband was president, it is Lawrence Rockefeller had 0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:20.120 an effort to try to disclose UFOs UAPs. When you 0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:23.839 were running for president, John Podesta publicly stated that you 0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:27.279 would disclose these files with if given the chance, if 0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.120 you had been president. Are you pleased to see that 0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:32.279 these files may be disclosed? 0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.240 Finally, I am pleased. 0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:38.120 As I say, I think they have to be carefully 0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:43.319 scrutinized so that no national security information is disclosed. But 0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:48.440 this is an issue of real importance to so many people, 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:52.360 and I think whatever can be disclosed should be disclosed. 0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:57.440 Was there a program that specifically that that was referencing 0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.360 that you were aware of. It's not. 0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.839 As you mentioned. John Podesta, who was one of my advisors, 0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:09.480 was deeply interested in the issue, and if I had 0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:13.280 been elected, I certainly would have listened to his advice. 0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:14.640 Oh, thank you for indulgent on. 0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:19.239 That very odd, completely off topic, no relevance to the 0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:23.080 actual subject of inquiry. A few minutes later, Hillary asked 0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.359 a clarifying question about why UFOs were brought up. 0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:28.000 This is sort of like off subject. 0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:33.959 But didn't you all require in the latest Defense authorization 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:37.399 that the UFO information asked about what? 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:38.160 They ripped it out? 0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.680 They killed it. Oh I thought that it gone through. 0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:42.680 That was my amendment and it ripped out. 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.680 Oh okay, well you've just I didn't know that, So 0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:46.719 thank you for enlightening me. 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:48.480 Okay, Yeah, they've been killing that. 0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:53.799 So if alien disclosure questions weren't bad enough and you know, 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:58.759 disrespectful to victims of epstein it' sex trafficking, it did 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:02.840 get worse. Yeah, did, And we will get into the 0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:17.720 worse after this at break. All right, we're back at 0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:22.840 nearly the four hour mark into Hillary Clinton's deposition, Lauren 0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:27.600 Bobert started asking about conspiracy theories. 0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:33.239 In past public statements, as in twenty seventeen speeches and interviews, 0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:38.080 you described pizza gait as a baseless conspiracy theory alleging 0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:41.399 you and others ran a child sex trafficking ring from 0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:46.359 a Washington pizzeri based pizzeria basement. Have you reviewed any 0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:49.799 twenty twenty five twenty twenty six EPSTEIN files that were 0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:54.680 released that you believe reference or relate to those specific 0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:59.239 twenty sixteen claims regarding the Podesta emails comic ping Pong 0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:01.240 pizza used as code. 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:07.880 Possibly. I'm sorry about whether she's reviewed emails that files 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.080 related to the wacky Pizzagate excuse. 0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:12.759 You could characterize it however you want. I just would 0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:14.520 like to know if she's familiar with any of them. 0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:18.439 So your question is about whether or not she has 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:24.960 reviewed any emails in the Epstein release files about Pizzagate. Correct, 0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:29.439 Pizzagate was totally made up. 0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:34.440 It was an outrageous allegation that ended up hurting a 0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.880 number of people, that caused a deranged young man to 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.520 show up with his assault rifle and shoot up a 0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:46.759 local Pizzeriha. I can't believe you're even referencing it. You 0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.960 should be there. 0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:52.840 There are connections to the language. 0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:56.600 Believe there are, so I don't know what believe at. 0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:58.120 It completely unhitched. 0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:01.239 But why are we doing this? I have complete lack 0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:04.759 of faith in this committee. This is offensive to survivors 0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:08.000 of Epstein, and this is getting us no relevant information 0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:12.239 to the Epstein probe as they call it. This is ridiculous, 0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.920 this is infammatory. I mean, I expect nothing less from 0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.520 Loan and Bobart, but you know, it's just it's insane 0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:19.239 and embarrassing. 0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:22.359 It's insane, and like there has been a resurgence of 0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.719 you know, Pizzagate related conspiracy theories, people talking about Pizzagate 0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:29.880 since the files had been released. Since people can create 0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:33.920 their own patterns, right by selectively honing in on words 0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.960 or symbols which allow them to overlook what's right in 0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.160 front of their nose. Right, all of the very clear 0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:42.600 connections laid out in the Epstein files, those can be ignored, yes, 0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:46.000 and instead you focused on these like coded messages hidden everywhere, 0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:50.480 hidden in the backgrounds of videos, people carrying pizza boxes 0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:54.600 into the Clinton deposition, all this kind of stuff. It's 0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:57.160 it allows them to miss the very the very clear 0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:59.640 things that are actually outlined into files. It is, you know, 0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:01.880 one of the negative side effects of you know, of 0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.120 files like this being released is that it allows a 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:06.600 lot of points of interest to be honed in on 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:10.600 by people charting wildly conspiratorial matrices. 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:14.480 I just don't even know how somebody like Lauren Barbert 0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:18.560 on a committee like this, or an elected official or 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.200 you know, employed Frankly. 0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.440 Hilary went on to say, I expected a lot of 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:27.840 interesting questions today, but Pizzagate was not on the list. 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.520 Lauren Bobart replied, that's okay. We're asking all sorts of 0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:36.160 things here, okay. A few minutes later, Bobert returned with 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:40.200 even more Pizzagate questions, and things escalated to the point 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:41.560 where they had to go off the record. 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:47.360 That's lord, are you aware of any files that were 0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:52.200 on Anthony Wiener's laptop and a folder that was titled 0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:58.640 Insurance Life Insurance with a ZIP file titled. 0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:00.760 Chairman. 0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:04.560 Is this within the scope? Mister chairman? 0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:06.440 Chairman rules that it's not with mister. 0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:09.080 Based on what you said in the public hearing, is 0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:09.880 this within the scope? 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:12.560 For a moment, mister chairman? 0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:13.520 Is this within the scope? 0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:15.000 Record? 0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.279 So you couldn't quite make out what Bobart was referencing there. 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:23.400 She was talking about the Frazzle Drip conspiracy theory that 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:27.920 alleged Anthony Wiener possessed a video of Hillary Clinton conducting 0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:31.759 a satanic ritual murder of a child, cutting off this 0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:35.000 child's face to wears a mask to fill the child's 0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:39.360 blood with adrenochrome to be harvested. This is like a 0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:42.640 twenty eighteen conspiracy theory, one of one of the more 0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:48.040 like like graphic and gross aspects of QAnon, And here 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:52.320 Bobert is just openly asking Hillary Clinton about Frazle drip 0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:57.640 by name, completely inappropriate, has no bearing on the investigation. 0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:01.280 It's an insult to actual victim of child sex trafficking. 0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:07.279 So this whole conspiratorial angle of the Hillary Clinton deposition 0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:10.960 made up a significant chunk. Another chunk that made up 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:14.080 a significant portion of time is just Clinton kind of 0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:16.600 advising and the committee members both on the Republican and 0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:19.759 Democrat side, like asking for her advice on how to 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:24.960 conduct their own investigation. She advised that they should follow 0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:30.360 Senator Widens compiled Treasury data on Epstein's financial transactions, and 0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:33.920 that data should be subpoened from the Treasury Department. She 0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.640 was asked about how they could determine if Jeffrey Epstein 0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:41.480 was a spy. Hillary advised them to send document requests 0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:45.680 to subpoena the CIA, the Department of National Intelligence counterintelligence 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:49.279 departments in the DOJ, saying to quote unquote cast a 0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:53.000 wide net. She suggested cooperating with UK investigations and to 0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:56.160 former Prince Andrew and trying to see if Israel will 0:41:56.160 --> 0:42:02.480 cooperate in sharing information regarding the investigation. Finally, Hillary suggested 0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.879 to Chairman James Coohmer that he should advise on how 0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:09.360 laws could be changed to prevent future abuse based on 0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:13.560 the committee's knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein's manipulation techniques and mode 0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:17.120 of operation. But there was like significant chunk of at 0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.719 least like, you know, thirty minutes where she was essentially 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:22.839 being asked or advising the committee on how to do 0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:25.600 their own job, just due to the sheering competence that 0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.479 has been displayed in the clips that I've selected here. 0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:32.400 Well, I don't really have anything else to say besides 0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:33.440 that it's just like. 0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:36.440 Pathotic, yeah, I mean, and most of the interesting stuff 0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:38.440 is in the Hillary Hillary Clinton won. 0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:38.759 Yeah. 0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:41.160 Bill was deposed the next day. But for some of 0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:45.279 the like logistics regarding this hearing, a source told The 0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.520 New York Post, so take that as you will. Sure 0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:51.320 that the Clinton team demanded specific quote unquote beauty lighting 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:55.279 and camera positions relatable life hear to get the most 0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.960 flattering angle of Hillary's face, and brought white tablecloths to 0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.680 bounce the overhead lighting onto the bottom of her face 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:02.640 to mind of my shadows. 0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:03.480 Yeah. 0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:05.520 Pictures of the whole room also showed that the Clinton 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:08.480 team was the only ones with these like nice orange 0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:12.000 upholstered chairs. The rest of the chairs were just like 0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:15.640 regular black folding chairs. The New York Post contains this 0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:21.680 little tidbit that the customized blue paneled backdrop was developed 0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:26.200 by a local specialized vendor within about seven hours after 0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.719 Clinton's team concluded it did not like the vibe of 0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:34.239 the original black curtains in the background unquote. So they 0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.120 like went in saw this, you know, white table with 0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:39.920 black curtains. They thought it looked too much like a 0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:43.400 criminal interrogation or or like a quote unquote hostage situation 0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:46.719 is what's quoted in the Post article, as opposed to 0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:50.560 like an official congressional deposition, you know, like an official 0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:54.719 government venue. So they got like a local carpenter to 0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:58.360 make this blue paneled backdrop in like a few hours 0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:02.600 to put behind Hillary. And that's just an interesting insight 0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.560 into like the thought process of the Clinton team regarding 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:09.960 the optics of this hearing shop local. So let's briefly 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:13.040 go through some of the sections on bill. Bill started 0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:17.120 by saying that they should not have questioned Hillary, quote, 0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:19.520 but I do think you should be talking to me. 0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:21.399 You should have called me, I did take those plain 0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:24.680 trips with him. You have a right to ask those questions. Unquote, 0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:27.359 He said that quote, I'll be honest with you, I'll 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:29.440 be eighty eight years old if I lived my next birthday. 0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.359 I don't remember everything that happened twenty four years ago, 0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:33.400 but I do remember some things, and I'll tell you 0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:35.920 what I remember the best that I can. On quote. 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.400 When asked when he first met Jeffrey Epstein, Bill referred 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:42.600 to a photo of him shaking Epstein's hand in nineteen 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:46.160 ninety three at a White House Historical Association event. But 0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:48.520 Bill said that he doesn't remember that, but this photo 0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.640 does exist. He shook a lot of people's hands. Does 0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:54.680 not remember everyone he meets. He first remembers meeting Jeffrey 0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:58.240 Epstein for a Clinton Foundation plane trip in two thousand 0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:01.680 and two. He said he was connected with Epstein through 0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:05.360 someone named Larry Summers, who told Bill that Jeffrey Epstein 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:08.280 made a large donation about ten million dollars to brain 0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:13.120 research and was a quote unquote, information hungry person. Summers 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:15.440 said that Epstein wanted to talk with Bill about economics 0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:18.560 and politics and offered to take Bill his staff and 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.880 his secret service detail on Clinton Foundation trips for global 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:25.360 humanitarian aid, so Bill saw this as a way to 0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:28.800 drive the price down for these trips. He took the 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:30.399 last one of these flights in two thousand and three. 0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:34.400 When asked why this relationship ended, Bill said that the 0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:37.520 AIDS program, it was a humanitarian aid program to help 0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:39.919 with AIDS, but that this AIDS program, you know, took 0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:43.760 off and more people that Bill knew better offered to help, 0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.280 and Jeffrey did not seem as interested in the AIDS program, 0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:50.760 so they kind of just naturally drifted apart. Bill characterized 0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:53.359 the relationship as friendly, but didn't know him well enough 0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.879 to be considered a friend, and so that he never 0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.719 talked about witness or participated in anything sexual. Relating to 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:02.480 Jeffrey Epstein and young women and girls, Bill said he 0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:05.640 learned of Epstein's crimes in two thousand and eight. Bill 0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.480 said he had no indication Epstein was trafficking women. Quote 0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:10.520 There's nothing that I saw when I was around him 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:13.480 that made me realize he was trafficking women. Quote. Bill 0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:16.759 was asked about if he communicated with a long list 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:20.360 of people regarding Epstein. This was kind of a weirdly 0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:23.600 framed question. It was have you communicated with any of 0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:27.239 these people about Jeffrey Epstein. Bill had a hard time 0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:29.600 kind of understanding the nature of this question. It is 0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:32.400 kind of oddly phrased. Hillary was asked the same one. 0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.480 They just read a list of names. Bill recounted if 0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:39.640 he knew the person or not, and lawyers had to specify, like, oh, no, 0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:42.800 they're asking if you communicated with them about Epstein, not 0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:45.319 if you knew them. So it kind of got some 0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:51.360 confusing responses. Interestingly, both Hillary and Bill laughed at the 0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:55.799 mention of Noam Chomsky. Bill said that he never communicated 0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:59.160 with Chomsky and that Chomsky quote wasn't a big fan 0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.680 of mine. He thought I was too conservative. 0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:07.080 Fuck off, nome, fuck off, no crazy. 0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:10.160 Bill did testify that he thought that someone relating to 0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:12.759 law enforcement would ask him about Epstein in two thousand 0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:15.520 and eight when the news about Epstein's crimes came out, 0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:20.400 considering that Epstein let Bill use the plane, but no 0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:24.680 one ever did m He said he never suspected Intel 0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:28.800 agency connections with Epstein and was at the time unaware 0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:31.880 of Epstein's visits to the White House while Bill was president, 0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:34.680 and it has only since been informed of this in 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:39.440 preparation for this testimony, Okay, Bill was asked about a 0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:44.480 New York Times article claiming to expound on Bill and 0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:51.640 Epstein's relationship in the nineties, characterized as chummy, which Bill denies. 0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:55.000 He said that he didn't even know Epstein really during 0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.759 this time, even though they may have been at the 0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:00.880 same events. He was asked about but being asked to 0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:04.839 write a personal note to Jeffrey Epstein's mother. Bill said 0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:07.279 that he never met Jeffrey Epstein's mother and that he 0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:08.959 wrote a lot of notes to a lot of people 0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.399 that he did not know. He was unsure of who 0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:13.960 asked him to write this note. He was also asked 0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:18.799 about this passport appearing to belong to Epstein bearing a 0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:22.920 different name, with the questioner asserting that they believe Jeffrey 0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:27.520 Epstein was an intelligence operative running a honeypot against the president. 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:32.040 When later asked if he believes that he was targeted, 0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:35.439 Bill says that it's possible. The lawyers objected this based 0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:37.560 on speculation, but Bill says he doesn't know if he 0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:41.160 was targeted but would be surprised. Refers to Jeffrey Epstein 0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:45.040 as a quote unquote vacuum cleaner of information but was 0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:49.959 not overtly manipulative. Early on, saying that Epstein mostly asked 0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:54.759 about derivatives trading and stock market regulation. Bill was asked 0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:57.239 if he ever had contact with someone named Shante Davies, 0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:01.360 who was a quote unquote flight attendant on Epstein's plane. 0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:05.439 Bill confirms that he did, and confirmed that a neck 0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:10.880 rub took place once with Chante Davies, but denied he 0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:12.000 ever went to the island. 0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:15.800 I don't know something about neck rub and Bill Clinton 0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:18.120 just makes me stomach hurt. 0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:19.040 Yeah. 0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:21.360 He later says that he was unaware of the abuse 0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:25.040 happening to Chante Davies and says that he quote wish 0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:28.640 Schante had told me I liked her, but said that 0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:31.520 he did not think there was anything unusual. He said 0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:35.319 that massages on rich people's planes and boats weren't uncommon. 0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:37.360 Was never aware of anyone under the age of eighteen 0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:39.600 all these flights, and if there were, that would have 0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:42.400 made him uncomfortable. He specified that Secret Service was with 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:46.000 him for every single trip. He quote never signed off 0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:49.880 Secret Service protection. He talked about specifically this neck rub incident, 0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:52.759 saying that he had a sore neck during one of 0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:57.280 the legs of these Clinton Foundation Aid trips and received 0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:01.400 a massage this one time. That's what he claimed. He 0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:06.440 was asked about the note in Jeffrey Epstein's fiftieth birthday book, 0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:09.319 Bill said that his own staff asked him to write 0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:12.120 a letter for the book, specifying that he sends out 0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:15.720 hundreds of birthday letters every year to friends or people 0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:19.840 he's only met a few times. A regular occurrence, he's 0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:22.680 asked to read a section of the letter that people 0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:26.880 had a hard time transcribing exactly, which makes a reference 0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:30.840 to Epstein having made errors in his life, and he 0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:36.000 was asked whether this errors referred to sex crimes. Bill said, no, 0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:38.560 in the life of someone fifty years old, they're going 0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:42.560 to make mistakes. It was a throwaway line in one 0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:44.799 section of this very short letter. I don't think it's 0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:49.480 super relevant. Now. Around this time when they're reading from 0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:53.560 this letter is where there's this viral clip of Bill 0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:56.480 pulling back a copy of a photo from his lawyers 0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:59.359 like while smiling. This is circulated a lot. It looks 0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:03.279 like he's no recounting like good memories or something. The 0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:05.680 piece paper he's pulling back is actually just a copy 0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:09.400 of a new York Times article. It's not a picture 0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:12.240 of him and Epstein. It's not a picture of memories. 0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:16.200 There may be a small photo framed in the picture 0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:19.560 included in this New York Times article. It's being passed around, 0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:21.400 but it's not like he's like flipping through like a 0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:24.000 year book of like a good moments with friends and like, 0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:27.400 you know, happily recounting. I think this, this little clip's 0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:29.040 been decontextualized. 0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:29.960 I agree. 0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:33.360 I'm not not trying to defend Bill Clinton here. 0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:35.520 No, but I'm adding context for what's. 0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:38.640 Actually happening in this hearing. And his lawyers are passing 0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:41.880 around a copy of a New York Times article which 0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:44.680 he's being questioned about, and that's the context for that clip. 0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:49.080 And like, this clip went pretty viral, and so I 0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.200 was talking about it actually with my mom My. Mom 0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:55.160 My mom's first reaction held some weight with me. She 0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:56.920 was like, that's just Bill Clinton's face. 0:51:57.080 --> 0:51:59.080 He's kind of this happy, goofy guy. 0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:04.000 Like he's generally like a smiley guy. And you know, 0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:09.279 I think that makes sense contextually. Here again, not defending 0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:12.359 Bill Clinton, but yeah. 0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:15.640 I do want to play one clip about Trump. Bill 0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:17.960 was asked if the committee should talk to Donald Trump 0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:20.919 since his name appears more frequently in the thousand almost 0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:23.640 any other person. Bill says, that's up to the committee 0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:27.040 and mentions an instance where he talked with Trump about 0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:30.839 Epstein on a golf course for a charity tournament around 0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:32.719 to US in two to TWISM three, and they talked 0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:35.280 about Epstein because Trump somehow knew that Bill had flown 0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:38.799 on the plane. But besides this incident, he had no 0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:42.799 other conversations with Trump about Epstein or Maxwell. 0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:46.480 The day I was there, he would typically. 0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:51.480 Donald Trump would come out and play a few holes 0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:56.799 with us, and he somehow knew I had flown in 0:52:57.120 --> 0:52:59.480 Jeffrey Epstein's aircraft. And he said, you know, we have 0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:04.000 some great times together over the years, but we fell 0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:07.640 out all because of a real estate deal. 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:11.720 And he said, I'm sorry it that's all. 0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.800 Do you recall whether President Trump was the first one 0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:19.120 to affirmatively bring up the subject of Jeffrey Epstein. 0:53:21.120 --> 0:53:24.040 No, but I'd be shocked if I did. I just 0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:25.439 don't do that, you know. 0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:29.680 Do you recall whether President Trump elaborated at all on 0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:32.200 the great times that he had with Jeffrey Epstein. 0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:35.520 No, And I took at the time I took. No, 0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:43.239 I didn't put any you know, sexual stint on it. 0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:46.400 And as far as you recall, President Trump characterized the 0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:50.240 nature of the ending of their friendship as being solely 0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:52.839 due to the real estate he said. 0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:58.640 Interestingly, here Bill recounts that Trump's reason for breaking with 0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:01.880 Epstein was due to a real estate deal, not the 0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:06.400 poaching of employees at mar A Lago, as alternatively reported. 0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:10.920 Right the minority, the Democrats referred to statements from three 0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:14.959 Jeffrey Epstein victims in statements, including Bill, in some way. 0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:18.200 Starting with someone named Maria Farmer, an Epstein employee who 0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:21.720 first reported abuse to the NYPDNFBI in nineteen ninety six, 0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:27.359 She claimed that she acknowledge that Bill visited Epstein's house 0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:31.760 multiple times. Bill denies this. Someone named Virginia Roberts Druffey 0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:37.240 remarked that she had knowledge that Bill was at Epstein's island. 0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:41.400 Bill responded by saying that ultimately his person quote unquote 0:54:41.480 --> 0:54:45.319 reached a different conclusion and denied declaimed that he flew 0:54:45.360 --> 0:54:48.320 in a helicopter with Glenn Maxwell to the island. The 0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:52.520 committee member reference a diary entry as the piece of 0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:58.480 information asserting that Bill was on the island. Bill's lawyers 0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:01.680 asked about the dates for this entry so that they 0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:05.480 could determine whether Bill was in a different part of 0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:08.160 the world around this time. But this gets moved on 0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:11.439 pretty quick. They briefly bring up this picture of Bill 0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:14.680 in a hot tub in Brunei. He says that he 0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:16.399 was staying at a hotel during one of these AIDS 0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:18.960 trips and briefly went to a hot tub. Other people 0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:22.719 were present from this trip secret Service. That's about a 0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:27.400 bizarre painting of Bill Clinton wearing Monica Lewinsky's blue dress 0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:30.600 found in Jeffrey Epstein's apartment. Bill said he'd never seen 0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:33.640 it before. Was asked to speculate why this painting was made. 0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:37.920 Lawyers said that the committee can ask the artist. Lauren 0:55:37.960 --> 0:55:40.600 Barber goes on a very poor line of questioning regarding 0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:44.120 a conversation transcript between two people, and this line of 0:55:44.200 --> 0:55:46.400 questioning requires deposition to go off the record to figure 0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:48.280 out what exactly she's talking about. 0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:48.920 Bill. 0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:52.080 Event she responds to a question stating that he never 0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:54.960 felt that he owed Jeffrey Epstein any favors and never 0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:59.000 participated in any quote unquote to island orgies since he 0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:01.720 never traveled to the US Virgin Islands with Jeffrey Epstein 0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:05.600 about two hours in. Bill Clinton has asked if he 0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:10.480 thinks Jeffrey Epstein killed himself, something they never asked. Hillary. 0:56:10.880 --> 0:56:12.200 I would just like to ask. 0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:15.120 You, personally and directly, do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein 0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:15.920 killed himself? 0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:18.439 Are you asking him to speculate on how mister Epstein died? 0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:22.160 I am asking what Miss the President thinks when you're 0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:26.640 asking his opinion, Mister President, was your was your friend Jeffrey. 0:56:26.320 --> 0:56:29.759 Epstein's cessifying him as a friend who he has testified. 0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:31.280 That he's a friend in a letter. 0:56:31.080 --> 0:56:33.360 He said he was friendly, but not you've asked for 0:56:33.400 --> 0:56:34.280 his test President. 0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:36.160 Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein was suicidal? 0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:38.960 Do you know? 0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:40.719 Was he ever suicidal? 0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:41.920 I don't know. 0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:46.239 I don't know what the medical founding was. I think 0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:50.560 maybe he finally got caught. 0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:55.000 I don't know. I've accepted it my own mom. I 0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:56.760 don't know what happened, Miss President. 0:56:56.800 --> 0:56:59.000 What did you accept that he killed himself or. 0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:01.600 That he did not that he did? But I don't know. 0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:06.440 Yes, sir, and none of us know, Miss President has 0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:06.959 been an honor. 0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:08.319 Thank you, Thank you. 0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:12.920 Why would you ask him that that makes no sense? 0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:15.399 I mean again, this is Lauren Bobber, the same person 0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:18.360 asking about pizza Gate. He's she's trying to donkey in 0:57:18.400 --> 0:57:20.959 as many of these conspiracy theory questions as she can, 0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:23.520 because that's that's like who she is, right, she has 0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:26.880 she is a conspiracy theorist herself. She may not characterist 0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:29.680 it that way, but she's trying to, you know, go 0:57:29.880 --> 0:57:32.400 go off a checklist of like epic owns against the 0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:36.680 Evil Child eating Clinton's a few other few other small 0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:39.640 notes that I think are interesting. Bill was asked about 0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:44.000 emails being sent to Glene Maxwell by one of his assistants, 0:57:44.400 --> 0:57:46.240 and Bill says that he never sent these emails and 0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:49.480 he's only ever sent two emails in his life, which 0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:52.919 I do believe I can too. 0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:56.760 It's so crazy, Oh, Bill Well. 0:57:57.160 --> 0:58:00.560 Bill's asked about a statement that Epstein made saying that 0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:05.200 Bill quote unquote likes them young. Bill Lawyer's asked, you know, 0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:08.360 if Bill's be asked to speculate on Jeffrey Epstein's mind. 0:58:09.560 --> 0:58:11.640 Bill says that this isn't true, that he quote unquote 0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:14.880 likes them young and never went to the island again. 0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:18.440 Mace later asks if it's unusual for a quote unquote 0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:22.760 sitting president to receive a massage. Bill Sawyers had to 0:58:22.840 --> 0:58:25.280 argue back and forth because Bill was not a sitting 0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:29.160 president during the time where this neck massage incident occurred. 0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:32.240 Bill's once again asked if he was the target of 0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:34.920 an intel operation, he says, I doubt it. There was 0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:38.320 then an extended argument between Mace and Lawyer's reference to 0:58:38.600 --> 0:58:41.800 Daily Beast reporting on a statement Bill made after Jeffrey 0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:45.360 Epstein's to his a nineteen arrest, mischaracterizing two instances where 0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:49.000 Jeffy Epstein visited the Clinton office and Bill once visited 0:58:49.040 --> 0:58:52.280 Jeffy Epstein's New York compartment, which he later remarked Jeffrey 0:58:52.280 --> 0:58:55.360 Epstein was not even present for, and Nancy Mays kept 0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:58.440 asking if Bill lied about only meeting Jeffrey Epstein at 0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:01.520 these two times based on the phrasing of the Daily 0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:05.280 Beast article, but the full statement that the Daily Beast 0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:09.600 was quoting from also lists the four plane trips, which 0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:13.640 contained a total of seventeen stops. The Beast article just 0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:16.640 mischaracterized this as only being two incidents, and Mace was 0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:19.200 referring to the article, not the actual original statement. This 0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:22.760 resulted in a pretty extensive argument. This leads us to 0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:25.560 the final clip that I'll play, which I think is 0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:31.560 kind of the only interesting question across the nine hours 0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:34.080 of testimony, the only question I think is actually kind 0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:37.680 of interesting and worthwhile, and it's not actually followed up 0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:41.440 on in any substantial way. Nancy Maaska asks why the 0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:47.160 Clintons still associated with Glade Maxwell after Jeffrey Epstein's first conviction, 0:59:47.720 --> 0:59:51.160 knowing that Maxwell was one of Epstein's closest associates. 0:59:52.240 --> 1:00:04.840 First of all, when the wedding occurred, she was with 1:00:06.200 --> 1:00:11.280 Ted White, and she was for several more years. We 1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:18.160 did not know when Sane was arrested that she was 1:00:18.200 --> 1:00:21.400 still involved with him. 1:00:21.560 --> 1:00:23.240 I think that clears a lot of this up. 1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:27.720 We didn't know, and I don't want all of me 1:00:27.800 --> 1:00:29.000 to get We're all getting an allowed. 1:00:29.280 --> 1:00:37.760 There's a logical extromation. We didn't know, and I'm sorry 1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:41.120 for what she did and what she allowed her life 1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:43.400 to become and now she's living with it. 1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:46.440 They do not follow up on this at all. The 1:00:46.520 --> 1:00:50.320 fact that the Clinton's, knowing that Maxwell was like Epstein's 1:00:50.360 --> 1:00:52.600 number two guys, spent a decent amount of time with 1:00:52.720 --> 1:00:54.800 on these four plane trips and to US and two 1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:58.280 to two US and three on these humanitarian aid Clinton 1:00:58.280 --> 1:01:00.400 Foundation trips. You know, a lot of time I'm with 1:01:00.840 --> 1:01:04.560 Glaine and Epstein. The committee did not follow up on 1:01:04.640 --> 1:01:07.920 why they continued to associate even loosely, like very loosely 1:01:08.240 --> 1:01:12.000 with Glaine after the Twestaate conviction. Yeah, that's a pretty 1:01:12.040 --> 1:01:14.919 reasonable question to have, and it just doesn't even get 1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:17.960 focused on very much. Instead, they started talking about this 1:01:18.000 --> 1:01:21.880 report from an Epstein victim about Bill Clinton allegedly walking 1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:25.240 into the offices of Vanity Fair and threatening them to 1:01:25.320 --> 1:01:28.440 not write sex trafficking articles about Jeffrey Epstein, something that 1:01:28.560 --> 1:01:31.560 Bill obviously denies, and there would be other witnesses for 1:01:31.600 --> 1:01:35.400 this event. But like this, this question about the Clinton's 1:01:35.840 --> 1:01:39.760 extended relationship with Glaine Maxwell after the first conviction is 1:01:39.760 --> 1:01:42.440 one of the very last questions asked. It takes them 1:01:42.520 --> 1:01:44.840 nine hours to get there. Yeah, they don't even follow 1:01:44.920 --> 1:01:48.479 up on it, and it just kind of ends very 1:01:48.840 --> 1:01:49.840 very flaccid. 1:01:50.080 --> 1:01:53.919 I'm sorry to the survivors, Like, you're not getting any 1:01:54.000 --> 1:02:00.640 kind of justice. This committee is incompetent, embarrassing, and pugnant. 1:02:01.280 --> 1:02:03.919 Yeah, and that kind of sums up the hearing, all 1:02:03.960 --> 1:02:08.520 of the hearings they were inconfident, embarrassing and repugnant, really 1:02:08.520 --> 1:02:12.680 spending more time on weird conspiracy theories than asking like new. 1:02:12.560 --> 1:02:14.520 Questions on Pizzagate. 1:02:15.200 --> 1:02:17.160 Yeah, because like they asked Hillary and Bill basically the 1:02:17.160 --> 1:02:19.840 same two questions over and over again, the same answers, 1:02:20.080 --> 1:02:22.880 wasting hours and hours of time. The only new questions 1:02:22.880 --> 1:02:26.760 they asked are these insane conspiracy ones. It's it's embarrassing, 1:02:26.760 --> 1:02:29.080 it does not hold any relevance to the investigation, and 1:02:29.120 --> 1:02:31.120 it's nine hours of my life I'll never get back. 1:02:31.400 --> 1:02:31.680 Yep. 1:02:32.480 --> 1:02:35.959 Well, that does it for us here at it could 1:02:35.960 --> 1:02:38.280 happen Here. We'll keep following some of these some of 1:02:38.320 --> 1:02:41.880 these hearings and depositions as this continues. I know there 1:02:41.880 --> 1:02:47.760 was new FBI documents about witness statements regarding President Trump 1:02:47.840 --> 1:02:51.120 released as I was writing this, like last night, and 1:02:51.120 --> 1:02:53.600 we'll probably be talking about those in executive disorder and 1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:55.960 later on throughout our coverage. 1:02:56.520 --> 1:03:03.120 Bye, Hi, it could happen Here is a production of 1:03:03.200 --> 1:03:06.320 cool Zone Media. 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