1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Also media welcome to it could happen here show about 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: things falling apart. The thing falling apart this week is 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: me after watching nine hours of Clinton testimony the past 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: two days. It can relate. I'm Garrison Davis. I'm joined 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: by Sophie Lechtervid to discuss guys. Hey, Sophie, Hey. 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: To discuss the Clinton testimony. 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I can relate after you know 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: you fortunately missed that Clinton speech at the DNC in 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: Bill Clinton, that was a really really, really really long 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: hour of my life. 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: That's a long speech for a guy that age too. 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we were together during Hillary's speech. 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: We did catch that while we're in the pit. 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: I think that's when I got COVID. I got the 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: Clinton COVID. Hillary got COVID too at the DNC, so 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: I think she gave it to me. 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 4: There you go. 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: That's when we were up close and personal with the 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: Clintons last. Now they're back. 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: They've never been more back, They've never been more I 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: completely agree. If you don't want to hear the voices, 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: I've tried to limit it, but there's gonna be some 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: the voices of Hillary and or Bill Clinton. This is 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: your chance if you want to hear me talk about 26 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: Hillary being asked about everything from spies to aliens and quanon. 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: It's again, this is your sign to continue. 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm excited. Let's do this. 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get started, because there's probably more more to 30 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: cover than what we'll be able to so. On February 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: twenty sixth and twenty seventh, Hillary and Bill Clinton respectively 32 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: testified and closed door hearings about their relationship with Jeffrey 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Epstein and Galaine Maxwell. The Clinton's referst to penay to 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: testify in this bipartisan House Oversight Committee investigation into the 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: DOJ's handling of the Epstein investigation back in August of 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. For months, they pushed back against having 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: to testify, arguing the process was politically motivated, that the 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: subpoenas were quote unquote invalid and legally unenforceable, and that 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: any relevant information they had could be delivered via assigned statement. 40 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: In January twenty twenty six, Chairman James Comer advanced two 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: resolutions recommending the Clintons be held in contempt of Congress 42 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: for refusing to comply days before a vote to hold 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: them in contempt. The Clintons finally agreed to testify in February. 44 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, to be fair, they did let other people give 45 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: little shitty statements. 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: They so did. That is something that Hillary specifically brought 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: up during her deposition more than once. Yes, So let's 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 1: start with Hillary's because that was the first one. 49 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: In her opening statement, she said she had no knowledge 51 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein's criminal activities, did not ever recall encountering 52 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein whatsoever, never flown on the plane or visited 53 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: his Island homes or offices. Gleayne Maxwell dated a family 54 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: friend around twenty ten he named Ted Waite, who was 55 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: a software developer. Waite brought Glaine to Hillary's Daughters of 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: Chelsea's wedding as a plus one guest in twenty ten, 57 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: and Hillary says she was unaware of any criminal activity 58 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: relating to Glene Maxwell, specifically before her crimes republicly revealed 59 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: a few years ago. Hillary was asked to recount the 60 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: origin of the Clintown Foundation, which Hillary only joined the 61 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: board of in twenty thirteen because she was busy serving 62 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: in office. Hillary was asked about Glene Maxwell leading a 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: breakout session on ocean conservation at a Clinton Global Initiative 64 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: conference in twenty thirteen. Hillary said that she was not 65 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: involved in the selection process for those sessions, but that 66 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Glen Maxwell had been an internationally recognized ocean advocate around 67 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: that time. Hillary refused to answer a question about whether 68 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: her husband is a quote unquote smart guy. 69 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: Which was who asked that question? 70 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: I forget, but I had that note written down some 71 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: of these things I was watching pretty pretty late. 72 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what a great question. Hey, Hill babe, is 73 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: your husband a smart guy? Wow? Glad our tax dollars 74 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: are funding such an important question. 75 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: She said that her husband had a limited relationship with 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: Epstein for a limited time. Yes, used his airplane for 77 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation trips, and this connection began and ended before 78 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: any of Epstein's crimes were publicly revealed. Representative Pat Fallen 79 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: with the Republican Majority talked about how Jeffy Epstein visited 80 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: the White House seventeen times under the Clint Did administration. 81 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: This is mostly for White House Historical Association events and 82 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: donated money to the White House Historical Association, but said 83 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: that Epstein never visited under Trump or donated money to Trump. 84 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: This could in fact, just be simply because the Trump admin. 85 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: You know, Trump came into office after Trump's relationship with 86 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: Epstein fell through and Epstein was convicted of sex crimes. Correct. 87 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: Trump got into office at twenty sixteen. Clinton was in 88 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: office in the early nineties. Yeah, that's why Epstein was 89 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: able to visit the White House for these public events 90 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: as a regular citizen, but did not do so when 91 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: Trump was president. 92 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, prior to Epstein's first conviction. 93 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, two thousand and eight. Yeah. Pat Fown also tried 94 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: to characterize a twenty thousand dollars donation to a joint 95 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: campaign fund in the nineties as a donation to Hillary's 96 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: presidential campaign fund. Many years later, he was called on 97 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: this being obviously incorrect. 98 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: Come on, man, that's so dumb. 99 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: There was a lot of stuff like that, So a 100 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: lot of small errors. Some of them may not have 101 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: been arrows right, some of them may have been ways 102 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: to make the transcript read a certain way if Hillary 103 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: or the lawyers weren't able to catch something. But both 104 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: Hillary and her team, but really mostly Hillary was really 105 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: on it for this entire hearing, like very sharp. 106 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: This was peak Hillary. I feel like a lot of 107 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 2: people you know, for a lot of the like analysis 108 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: online I saw, you know, a take over and over 109 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: again that that was like, why wasn't she like this 110 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: when she ran for president? She was? 111 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: This is this is Hillary she was, and it's you know, 112 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: it's impressive, but also a little bit unlikable. For if 113 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: you do that, if you do that like all the time, right. 114 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: If you're like that all the time, it's a little 115 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: bit Oh, okay, I'm going to take a step back. 116 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 5: Now. 117 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: That's a lot, but you know, yeah, we'll have we'll 118 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: have more on her sort of like intellectual sharpness later. 119 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: I mean, she's fiercely intelligent. Yeah, fiercely intelligent. 120 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: And that is that is that is on display for 121 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: the entirety of this deposition. 122 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: But I really hated the take where people were like, 123 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: if she was like this when she ran for president, 124 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: maybe we wouldn't be dealing with Donald Trump. 125 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 6: Now. 126 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: It's like, no, that's not what happened. No, this is 127 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: who Hillary's been her entire adult life. Thank you. 128 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: Hillary said that she never slicted funds for Jeffrey Epstein, 129 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: ever had funds listed on her behalf, and never invited 130 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: Epstein to any political fundraisers when asked about her own 131 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: speculation on her husband, previous investigators, or the mind state 132 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein and Glen Maxwell. She could not answer, 133 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: because that is speculation on other people's opinions or mind states. 134 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: About an hour in Nancy Mace asked Hillary Clinton if 135 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: she believes the Epstein files are quote unquote a vast 136 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: right wing conspiracy. 137 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 5: I think if they are fully released, as the Transparency 138 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 5: Act requires, that would be fulfilling the responsibility of the 139 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 5: Justice Department. But it appears that there have been many 140 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 5: issues with the full release, so I'm not going to 141 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 5: characterize it other than to say I think that's a 142 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 5: well known fact. 143 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: It is certainly an odd question to ask if the 144 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: files themselves are a vast right wing conspiracy, and Hillary 145 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: here just answered by talking about the issues that have 146 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: come up with the full release of the Epstein files. 147 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: After this, Hillary has asked about whether Jeffrey Epstein was 148 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: one of the most prolific sex traffickers in the world 149 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: and how the State Department worked to counter international sex trafficking. 150 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 7: Would you say he's one of the world's most prolific 151 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 7: sex traffickers. 152 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 5: I don't know what to compare it. To there are 153 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 5: terrible sex trafficking rings all over the. 154 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 7: World, and you were he said. You were Secretary of 155 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 7: State from two thousand and nine to twenty thirteen, and 156 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 7: you state your agency prioritized combating sex trafficking internationally. 157 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 5: Correct, that's correct. 158 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 7: During your time as Secretary of State, did you or 159 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 7: the State receive any intelligence cables or briefings mentioning Epstein's 160 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 7: foreign travel, pedophile island, or his network of pedophiles and 161 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 7: sex traffick not that I am aware of. 162 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 4: No, how did you miss it? 163 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 7: If he's I believe, one of the most prolific sex 164 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 7: traffickers in the world, you were Secretary of State, how 165 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 7: did you miss it? 166 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 5: Well, that would have been a matter of the Justice Department, 167 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 5: not the State Department. 168 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 7: But in your opening statement and your statements earlier, in 169 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 7: your opening statement, you stated that Secretary of Rubio should 170 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 7: be called to testify. You said that he has and 171 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 7: the administration has quote abandoned survivors using the same logic. 172 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 7: You were Secretary of State during a time period after 173 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 7: Jeffrey Epstein was convicted of being a pedophile and soliciting 174 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 7: children for sex. Why then, did you quote using your 175 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 7: own logic abandoned survivors. 176 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 4: Uh, what is the question? 177 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 8: Please? 178 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 5: I followed her comment. First of all, we focused on 179 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 5: whether there were laws that made sex trafficking, sexual slavery, 180 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 5: domestic violence, other abuses of women on the books in countries. 181 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 5: And then we tried to evaluate were those laws being 182 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 5: implemented and were judges appropriately trained and briefed about how 183 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 5: to implement those laws, were governments taking them seriously? We 184 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 5: looked at the broad institutional approach to these very serious abuses. 185 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: This is an interesting exchange to me. Yeah, so Mace 186 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: here doesn't really understand the role of the Justice Department 187 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 1: versus the State Department. Yes, for the Justice Department investigates 188 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: crimes committed in the United States, versus the State Department 189 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: is this entity that pressures other countries to create or 190 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, improve sex trafficking laws and doesn't really understand 191 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: this difference right, and refers to a part in Hillary's 192 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: opening statement about how Rubio's shrunk specific office to combat 193 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: international sex trafficking, and she isn't quite able to like 194 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: to understand how Hillary is critiquing that, while also saying 195 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: that the Justice Department mishandled the Epstein investigation while she 196 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: was Secretary of State. It's this interesting just break and 197 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: not really understanding how the government works. And this clip 198 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: also shows like how sharp Hillary is being able to 199 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: follow this line of questioning better than her own lawyers 200 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: in some instances be able to actually like respond to 201 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: what Mace is really asking. 202 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: Notice that as well. 203 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: Mace then continues to ask about how the US government 204 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: handled Jeffrey Epstein's first criminal case, and this is how 205 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: Clinton responded. 206 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 7: Would you say the US government at that time, during 207 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 7: this time period was appropriate with the way that it 208 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 7: handled Epstein. 209 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 5: I don't think that you could say that was true 210 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 5: about any of the government's prosecutorial efforts, starting with the 211 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 5: Southern District of Florida and alex Acosta and all those 212 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 5: who basically gave him a sweetheart deal. And then I 213 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 5: think going up the chain there was very little attention 214 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 5: paid that should have been paid. But what we had 215 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 5: laws on the books, they were not being implemented. But 216 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 5: that was not within my purview because what we were 217 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 5: looking at is what's the institutional structure and can we 218 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 5: do more to make sure countries take it seriously. Our 219 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 5: country had laws on the books, So this man was 220 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 5: not held to account you, It was not in your 221 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 5: purview when you were Secretary of State. Then why is 222 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 5: it today in Secretary of Rubios? Because what's happened is 223 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 5: that the office that was actually following what was going 224 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 5: on around the world has been decimated. Seventy percent of 225 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 5: the staff is gone. It's impossible to carry out the 226 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 5: functions of that office if you don't have a critical 227 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 5: number of people. So my question would be to Secretary Rubio, 228 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 5: is there more that can be done out of time here? 229 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah, Nancy Mace, you suck, You suck. 230 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: Pretty clear articulation there from Secretary Clinton. 231 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I fear that like that, Nancy Mace spent most 232 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: of this time trying to set Hillary up, and I 233 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: don't think she I don't think she succeeded. 234 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: No. Hillary was then asked if she was quote unquote 235 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: concerned when she saw photos of her husband getting a 236 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: back massage or in a pot tub and what went 237 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: through her mind. Hillary refused to speculate on events in 238 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: which she has no context for and was not there. 239 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: We're going to go on a quick ad break now 240 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: and then return to continue the discussion on the Clinton testimony. 241 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: All right, we're back. I want to get a little 242 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: bit into the background of this hearing some more so. 243 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: When the Clintons finally agreed to testify in February, one 244 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: of the things they pushed for was that the testimony 245 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: take the form of public hearings broadcast live. Hillary addressed 246 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: German comra online saying, quote, you love to talk about transparency. 247 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: There's nothing more transparent than a public hearing camera onquote. 248 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: There was a brief back and forth negotiation on what 249 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: the depositions would be open to the public. Ultimately they 250 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: were not, but they were recorded on camera and transcribed 251 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: for later release. Part of the terms for this private 252 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: hearing this deposition was that press and photographers were not 253 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: allowed inside the room, and that deposition materials would only 254 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: be released in full through official channels after sensitive information 255 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: like staffer names, president of the deposition and off the 256 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: record exchanges between lawyers were properly removed or redacted. At 257 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: about an hour and twenty minutes into Hillary's deposition, the 258 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: Clinton staff learned that one of the Republican committee members 259 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: leaked a photo of Hillary to right wing influencer Benny 260 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: Johnson Crazy, who posted the picture and wrote quote breaking 261 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: the first image of Hillary Clinton testifying under oath but 262 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein to the Republican Oversight Committee. This is the 263 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: first time Hillary has had to answer real questions about Epstein. 264 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: Clinton does not look happy. Photo provided by Representative Lauren Bobert. 265 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: Honestly, there's actually nobody more unprofessional than Lauren Bobert. 266 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: Will get into her unprofessional conduct later in this hearing 267 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: as well. Great, but here's a clip of the Clinton 268 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: team realizing that a photo has been leaked. 269 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 9: I have another photos that are being released of the 270 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 9: secretary as she is testifying from inside this room. Can 271 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 9: you please advise me as to whether or not that's 272 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 9: permissible and consistent with the rules, particularly given that we 273 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 9: have asked for public hearing. If there are photos that 274 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 9: are being released of the secretary she is testifying, can 275 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 9: you please explain how. 276 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 5: Much I've done with this. If you guys are doing that, 277 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 5: I am done. You can hold me a contempt from 278 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 5: now till the cows come home. This is just typical behavior. 279 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 5: Oh for heaven, I would like. 280 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 9: To understand how that's permissible hearing. 281 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. 282 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: We all are abiding by the rules. 283 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I would like to take a break at 284 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 5: this movie I'd like to have done for now. 285 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: Fair threw up the record. Pretty shocking stuff. 286 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: There's no defense for that. That's that's wild, and uh 287 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: I would walk out as well. 288 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: When they went back on the record, Chairman Comer discussed 289 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: how he advised all members that no photos of the 290 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: deposition were to be released and that an instant like 291 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: this would not happen again. Lauren Barber later told reporters 292 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: that she took the picture before a testimony actually began 293 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: and that she checked with committee staff about using the photo. 294 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: No follow up on that. 295 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that chance, it's embarrassing. 296 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: After returning from off the record, the minority, the Democrats 297 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: asked about the Justice Department illegally withholding certain files related 298 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: to the investigation from public disclosure. Hillary says that this 299 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: behavior by the Justice Department deserves the most thoroughn destigation 300 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: that Congress could carry out. This will be a longer clap, 301 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: about two minutes, but there's some good information inside. 302 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 5: I think from the very beginning, the behavior of the 303 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 5: Attorney General and her staff has demonstrated either a gross incompetence, 304 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 5: which is bothersome because they are the keepers of information 305 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 5: that should be evaluated for law enforcement purposes or a 306 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 5: clear cover up because they are protecting the president and others. 307 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 5: Either one of those should be the focus of this 308 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 5: committee to try to get to the bottom. If they 309 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 5: are incompetent and they are incapable of complying with the 310 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 5: law that the Congress passed, we need to know that 311 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 5: because they are falling down on the job. They have 312 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 5: an FBI director is more interested in drinking beer in 313 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 5: a hockey dressing room after our team won the Olympics 314 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 5: rather than being responsive and complying with the law as 315 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 5: it has been promulgated. So I don't think it's unfair 316 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 5: to say that given the sequencing of the event, starting 317 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 5: with the way that President Trump made the release of 318 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 5: the files a key element of his twenty twenty four campaign, 319 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 5: the promise that he and then his Attorney General made 320 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 5: that the files would be released, then a walking back 321 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 5: of that as they began to look at the files, 322 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 5: an ignoring of what they had promised, including that they 323 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 5: had a client list on the desk of the Attorney General. 324 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 5: Reasonable people would have to assume they are engaged in 325 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 5: a massive cover up, which is infuriating as an American 326 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 5: as a citizen, all of us should be, regardless of party, 327 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 5: wondering what are they hiding? 328 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,239 Speaker 2: The thing says I watched sports more than calling it 329 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: a hockey dressing room dressing room, I was like Hillary 330 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: up with the times. 331 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 10: Uh. 332 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: Hillary goes on to mention how the prosecutor the original 333 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: Epstein case, alex Acosta, was not asked any questions by 334 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: Republicans during his Epstein deposition. About half an hour later, 335 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: Hillary and the Majority go into about a three minute 336 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 1: exchange thing. This is between Hillary and Nancy Mace about 337 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: Howard Lutnick, Trump's Commerce secretary, who's frequently named in the files, 338 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: whom Hillary knew from being a New York senator during 339 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: the nine to eleven attacks, where Lutnik lost the highest 340 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: of employees out of anyone that day, like over six hundred. 341 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: So Hillary was asked how she knows Lutnik. Hillary tries 342 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: to respond by saying how they met, which was the 343 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: aftermath of nine to eleven. Mace claims that this is 344 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: like a distraction from answering the question and that Hillary's 345 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: trying to garner sympathy. Things get very heated over over 346 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: the course of these like three minutes, as they like 347 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: argue about, you know, if she's actually answering the question. 348 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: Mace talks about being a survivor herself, and now she's 349 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: trying to, you know, get the truth out of these hearings. 350 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: Hillary responds by talking about how she's been very sympathetic 351 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: to Mace's situation and respects the work that she's doing 352 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: in the Epstein hearings, but is trying to answer the 353 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: question specifically about Lutnik. It's a pretty loud and contentious 354 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: three minutes. About two minutes after that, Republicans made Hillary 355 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: read emails from the Epstein files. 356 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 5: Thank you for a fun night. Your littlest girl was 357 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 5: a little naughty. 358 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? 359 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 5: Makes me sick? 360 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 11: If you can also read the EFTA zers zero eight 361 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 11: seven eight four two one. This is also another email. 362 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 12: Can you just please provide the context. 363 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 11: It's an email to Jeffrey Epstein, if you could just 364 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 11: read the context of what it is. 365 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 5: Of course, the O H Jesus, ohio Jesus, I'm coming trick. 366 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 12: And just the main body of the context of the email. 367 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 5: Said that she felt God's presence next her when she 368 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 5: was in bed. She knows that Jesus watches over her 369 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 5: and he helped save her life. 370 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 8: Whoops. 371 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? 372 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 5: It's bizarre. I don't know what it means. 373 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 13: The reason I asked you to read both of these 374 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 13: is because these emails are both sent by co conspirators 375 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 13: that were then given the plea deals and now have 376 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 13: been given victim status. 377 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 4: Both of these. 378 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 11: Women were also named an FBI document, and they're on 379 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 11: a number of other emails. 380 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: What does that have to do with Hillary? 381 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: Yes, that's the exact thing that I wrote down. This 382 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: has no relevance to Clinton at all. This, this doesn't 383 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: relate to her. 384 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: They wanted soundbites of her reading weird things. 385 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: It's a humiliation ritual, right, It's yeah, there's no reason 386 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: for them to do this that the majority just go 387 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: on to ask Hillary if the DOJ should reevaluate the 388 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: plea deals of these two people, something that Hillary has 389 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: no expertise for. Like, that's what she's here to testify 390 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: on her own knowledge relating to Epstein and Maxwell. This 391 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: is this is a complete non sequitor. This doesn't relate 392 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: to her in any way. It's just grosse. You're just 393 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: you're just getting a woman to read the Epstein files 394 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: for your own entertainment. Yes, it's disgusting. Yes, I have 395 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: a few clips here. This is what three clips about 396 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: her intellectual kind of ruthlessness and the ways that the 397 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: question in this committee, we're trying to get certain asses 398 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 1: out of her, and she was able to either correct 399 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: them or navigate in an interesting way. I'll start with 400 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: this first one at three and a half hours in gosh, 401 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: you watched a lot. 402 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 6: In twenty fourteen, Epstein met with William Burns, who was 403 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 6: then a senior State Department official and later a CIA director. 404 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 9: Excuse me, could you say what year that was? 405 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 8: Again? 406 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 6: In twenty fourteen. 407 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 9: In twenty fourteen he met with William Burns. 408 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 6: Epstein met with William Burns as as a Secretary of 409 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 6: State at that time. 410 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 4: Were you aware of that meeting? 411 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 5: I wasn't secretary of State in twenty fourteen. 412 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 6: Okay, were you aware of them? 413 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 4: I was Master Burns. 414 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: Okay, embarrassing stuff. Yeah, she was not secretary of state 415 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen. She served from twenty nine to two 416 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: US and thirteen. Asking a question about if she was 417 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: informed of something, well, secretary of State in twenty fourteen, 418 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: she simply was not there. She was not secretary of State. 419 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: The people in this committee should know this. They should 420 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: know when she actually served as Secretary of State. It's 421 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: embarrassing they continued to get like dates wrong throughout this 422 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: hearing that this guy who's asking this question is his representative, 423 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: Eric Berlinson. He also mischaracterized Chelsea's wedding as Hillary's wedding, 424 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: saying that Glen Maxwell attended Hillary's wedding and that Glene 425 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: Maxwell vacationed with Chelsea after the wedding. This event that 426 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: he's referencing, this vacation was actually a year before the wedding, 427 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: and who has a nine Hillary and her lawyers had 428 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: to correct all of that stuff. Specifically, Eric Berlinson did 429 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: not seem to know what he was talking about at 430 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: all in this hearing. Just constantly got little dates and 431 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: facts wrong. 432 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: That gives me pause for a number of reasons. But 433 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: it just makes me think about, you know, if they 434 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 2: were actually talking to somebody that they needed to deeply press, yeah, 435 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: that they would not get the results needed. It gives 436 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: me a major pause that they have lack of confidence 437 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: in this committee to do their job. But it's it's 438 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: just frankly embarrassing that these are elected officials and they 439 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: can't even get their dates right. 440 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an extremely serious matter, and these are 441 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: the people doing oversight. 442 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: This is not a laughing matter. 443 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they are totally incompetent. 444 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 445 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: Lauren Barber then asked a very leading question about when 446 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: Hillary learned her husband was spending time with a registered 447 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: sex offender. 448 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 14: Miss Clinton, when did you first learn that your husband 449 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 14: was spending time extensively with a registered sex offender? 450 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 5: He did not after he was convicted, years after Bill stopped. 451 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 14: Having any Were there any activities that raised any red 452 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 14: flags to think that he could be charged of sex 453 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 14: crimes during the time, are you asking? 454 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 5: Clinton has awareness yes, of Jeffrey Epstein. 455 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 14: Of any red flags being brought to your awareness, to 456 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 14: your family's awareness while your husband was spending time with 457 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 14: Jeffrey Epstein. 458 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 5: I have no recollection of anyone bringing any red flags 459 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 5: to me. 460 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: They continued to ask about her husband, and she just 461 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: had to She just had to keep reiterating it, like 462 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: the committee will have a chance to question her husband tomorrow, 463 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: like they could ask him about his relationship with it 464 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: Epstein tomorrow. There's no use in her speculating about her 465 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: husband's relationship. They can just ask him, literally in less 466 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: than twenty four hours. But they just kept they just 467 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: kept going. 468 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 2: Classic. 469 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 10: You know. 470 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: One of the more bizarre moments they quoted Epstein referring 471 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: to Hillary being prettier in person. And this exchange is 472 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: interesting because of the way it suggests the committee's interpretation 473 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: of certain statements made by Epstein when I think they 474 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: probably infer something to the opposite. 475 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 2: It's bizarre, just like weird misogyny going on. 476 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 14: So regarding the Epstein files, there are many files where 477 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 14: Jeffrey Epstein seems to speak as though he does know 478 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 14: you personally. In one file ft A zero zero six 479 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 14: five seven one one five, mister Epstein is commenting and 480 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 14: he quotes, Hey, Hillary Clinton is much prettier in person. 481 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 14: This was Tuesday, September twentieth, twenty eleven. And then another. 482 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 5: Congresson I'm not going to object to that keeps me. 483 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 4: Commiss can we see the documents because we don't think 484 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 4: that we would get that present. 485 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 7: They don't think the documents not that you're not pretty. 486 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 14: Jeffrey Epstein is also commented that meetings with Hillary are 487 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 14: not easily discreet. Has he ever connected someone to meet 488 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 14: with you, not that I'm aware of. 489 00:27:52,560 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 11: Okay, this is my first time seeing that clip. 490 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: That's so funny. First of all, very funny. Second of all, 491 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: this is not what this is supposed to be. Why 492 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: are you bringing that up? What does that have to 493 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: do with anything? 494 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're trying to establish some sort of 495 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: relationship between Hillary and Epstein. 496 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: Purely, but it doesn't exist. 497 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: And to me, these exchanges just inferred that, you know, 498 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein had seen Hillary in person before, likely at 499 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: these White House Historical Association events where she sees you know, 500 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: hundreds of people who like walk by, right. But then 501 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: Epstein himself like expressed that it's actually difficult to get 502 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: a private meeting with her. So this, this doesn't prove 503 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: that they had any actual, like personal knowledge of each other, 504 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: like mutually. Obviously Epstein knew who she was. She was 505 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: the first Lady of the United States. 506 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely. It's ridiculous. 507 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: About ten minutes later, and this is getting to the 508 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: end of this hearing about, like, you know, four hours in, 509 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: Hillary just kind of goes off a little bit after 510 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: just being asked the same question again and again and again, 511 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: and then also demonstrates like how much she actually knows 512 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: about this committee's investigation. 513 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 4: You have said that you have never been to mister 514 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 4: Epstein's island. Is that correct? 515 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 5: You know what, I am so tired of answering that question. 516 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 5: If you have one sentilla of evidence to the contrary, 517 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 5: put it forward. I have never been on his island period. 518 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 5: I've never been in his homes, his offices, his anything. 519 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 5: So I don't know how many times you have to 520 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 5: say the same thing over and over and over again. 521 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 5: And I just am struggling with the relevance of all 522 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 5: of this. But no, I never have been. 523 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 4: And based off that response, I would include, you've never 524 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: been to mister Epstein's Manhattan town home. I have not 525 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 4: his New Mexico ranch. 526 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 13: No. 527 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: I have not his Palm Beach residence. 528 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 10: No. 529 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 4: I have not his Paris apartment. 530 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 5: Didn't know he had one. 531 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 4: I haven't been there. 532 00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 10: You know. 533 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 5: I also find it very interesting because I went back 534 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 5: and looked at the transcripts of all of your other depositions, 535 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 5: and none of the Republicans asked a single question to 536 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 5: any witness about Jeffrey Epstein, or any question that would 537 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 5: help provide answers for his victims. 538 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: Hillary goes on to say that Republican Chairman Comer did 539 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: ask Attorney General bar not about Epstein, but if he 540 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: was aware of clinton involvement in the twenty sixteen Russia 541 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: collusion investigation. Again in a deposition about the DOJ's handling 542 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: of the Epstein files. Completely relevant, completely relevant to the 543 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: matter at hand. And if these people want to pretend 544 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: that they actually take, you know, what happened to these 545 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: victims seriously, then they would have a focused effort on 546 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: the actual subject. All these wild partisan threads. And I'm 547 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: now gonna discuss before before we before we go and 548 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: break again about how this hearing kind of threwout it. 549 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: But I've condensed this down into one section, turned towards 550 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: the weird multiple times in ways that are sometimes you know, relevant, 551 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: but oftentimes not. Earlier in this hearing, Hillary stated that 552 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: she had never been briefed on whether Jeffrey Epstein had 553 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: foreign intelligence ties while serving in office, but that speculation 554 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: that Jeffrey Epstein could have been a foreign intel asset 555 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: is a quote unquote fruitful area of investigation. Although she 556 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: was not made aware of any connection of this sort 557 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: wild Secretary of State, she was also asked about a 558 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: passport belonging to Epstein which bore a different name. 559 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 11: This is actually a passport that was given. The individual's 560 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 11: name is Marcus Robert Fortinelli. Do you think that this 561 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 11: is a sign or a telltale sign of intelligence operations 562 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 11: and pseudonymes. 563 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 5: I can't speculate, I don't, okay. 564 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 11: Victims have stated to this committee, both Democrats and Republicans, 565 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 11: that during Epstein's time, during his daycamp DALs what I'll 566 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 11: call it, that he was also an active communication with 567 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 11: Bush's CIA director. They also had stated that he had 568 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 11: active ties to Russia, Israel, and I Ron. Given your 569 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 11: status not just as the first Lady, but also in 570 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 11: your secretary position, have you ever been targeted by any 571 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 11: of these countries as a means of a foreign intelligence 572 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 11: gathering operation? I you were potential vulnerabilities. 573 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 5: And yeah, I was targeted by Russia in the twenty 574 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 5: sixteen campaign. 575 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 8: I mean I think that's pretty well known. 576 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 9: What about Israel Aribran? 577 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 5: I don't know about either Israel or Iran? 578 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: Okay. 579 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 12: Do you believe that Epstein was running potentially a honeypop 580 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 12: operation with intelligence gathering operations to collect information on how 581 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 12: high profile individuals, both Democrat Republican the United States in 582 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 12: an effort to sway. 583 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 5: Are foreign policy. 584 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 9: Is it possible. 585 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 5: I have no direct knowledge, but I think it's one 586 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 5: of the areas your committee should investigate. Do you think 587 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 5: it's possible, Well, it is certainly possible. It's a tried 588 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 5: and true technique of certain intelligence agencies. 589 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 12: Do you believe that he was using Honeypott's an effort to. 590 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 5: I can't sarraculate. 591 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what this is such a weird use 592 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: of their time. 593 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: Later, she said that she had no reason to believe 594 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: that personally she was the subject of an intel gathering 595 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: operation relating to Jeffrey Epstein or Glene Maxwell. And then 596 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: right after she was asked if she was ever denied 597 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: access to information about youaps that's an unidentified aerial phenomenon. 598 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: Hilary said that she was never denied access because she 599 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 1: never asked for access. When questions, she said that she 600 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: believes the American public deserves access to such topics subject 601 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: to national security implications. This bizarre off topic line of 602 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: questioning continued nearly an hour later into the hearing. 603 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 6: Going to begin with some lighthearted different questions and You're 604 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 6: welcome to ignore them or if you want to. But 605 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 6: while I have you here, I just have to ask. So, 606 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 6: when your husband was president, it is Lawrence Rockefeller had 607 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 6: an effort to try to disclose UFOs UAPs. When you 608 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 6: were running for president, John Podesta publicly stated that you 609 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 6: would disclose these files with if given the chance, if 610 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 6: you had been president. Are you pleased to see that 611 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 6: these files may be disclosed? 612 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: Finally, I am pleased. 613 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 5: As I say, I think they have to be carefully 614 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 5: scrutinized so that no national security information is disclosed. But 615 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 5: this is an issue of real importance to so many people, 616 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 5: and I think whatever can be disclosed should be disclosed. 617 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 6: Was there a program that specifically that that was referencing 618 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 6: that you were aware of. It's not. 619 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 5: As you mentioned. John Podesta, who was one of my advisors, 620 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 5: was deeply interested in the issue, and if I had 621 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 5: been elected, I certainly would have listened to his advice. 622 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 6: Oh, thank you for indulgent on. 623 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: That very odd, completely off topic, no relevance to the 624 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: actual subject of inquiry. A few minutes later, Hillary asked 625 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: a clarifying question about why UFOs were brought up. 626 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 4: This is sort of like off subject. 627 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:33,959 Speaker 5: But didn't you all require in the latest Defense authorization 628 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 5: that the UFO information asked about what? 629 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 9: They ripped it out? 630 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 4: They killed it. Oh I thought that it gone through. 631 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 6: That was my amendment and it ripped out. 632 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 5: Oh okay, well you've just I didn't know that, So 633 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 5: thank you for enlightening me. 634 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 9: Okay, Yeah, they've been killing that. 635 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: So if alien disclosure questions weren't bad enough and you know, 636 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: disrespectful to victims of epstein it' sex trafficking, it did 637 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: get worse. Yeah, did, And we will get into the 638 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: worse after this at break. All right, we're back at 639 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: nearly the four hour mark into Hillary Clinton's deposition, Lauren 640 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: Bobert started asking about conspiracy theories. 641 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 14: In past public statements, as in twenty seventeen speeches and interviews, 642 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 14: you described pizza gait as a baseless conspiracy theory alleging 643 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 14: you and others ran a child sex trafficking ring from 644 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 14: a Washington pizzeri based pizzeria basement. Have you reviewed any 645 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 14: twenty twenty five twenty twenty six EPSTEIN files that were 646 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 14: released that you believe reference or relate to those specific 647 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 14: twenty sixteen claims regarding the Podesta emails comic ping Pong 648 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 14: pizza used as code. 649 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 10: Possibly. I'm sorry about whether she's reviewed emails that files 650 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 10: related to the wacky Pizzagate excuse. 651 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 14: You could characterize it however you want. I just would 652 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 14: like to know if she's familiar with any of them. 653 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 9: So your question is about whether or not she has 654 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 9: reviewed any emails in the Epstein release files about Pizzagate. Correct, 655 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 9: Pizzagate was totally made up. 656 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 5: It was an outrageous allegation that ended up hurting a 657 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 5: number of people, that caused a deranged young man to 658 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 5: show up with his assault rifle and shoot up a 659 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 5: local Pizzeriha. I can't believe you're even referencing it. You 660 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 5: should be there. 661 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 14: There are connections to the language. 662 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 5: Believe there are, so I don't know what believe at. 663 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: It completely unhitched. 664 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 2: But why are we doing this? I have complete lack 665 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 2: of faith in this committee. This is offensive to survivors 666 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: of Epstein, and this is getting us no relevant information 667 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 2: to the Epstein probe as they call it. This is ridiculous, 668 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 2: this is infammatory. I mean, I expect nothing less from 669 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: Loan and Bobart, but you know, it's just it's insane 670 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 2: and embarrassing. 671 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: It's insane, and like there has been a resurgence of 672 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: you know, Pizzagate related conspiracy theories, people talking about Pizzagate 673 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: since the files had been released. Since people can create 674 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: their own patterns, right by selectively honing in on words 675 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: or symbols which allow them to overlook what's right in 676 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: front of their nose. Right, all of the very clear 677 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: connections laid out in the Epstein files, those can be ignored, yes, 678 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: and instead you focused on these like coded messages hidden everywhere, 679 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: hidden in the backgrounds of videos, people carrying pizza boxes 680 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: into the Clinton deposition, all this kind of stuff. It's 681 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: it allows them to miss the very the very clear 682 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: things that are actually outlined into files. It is, you know, 683 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: one of the negative side effects of you know, of 684 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: files like this being released is that it allows a 685 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: lot of points of interest to be honed in on 686 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: by people charting wildly conspiratorial matrices. 687 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: I just don't even know how somebody like Lauren Barbert 688 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: on a committee like this, or an elected official or 689 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 2: you know, employed Frankly. 690 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: Hilary went on to say, I expected a lot of 691 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: interesting questions today, but Pizzagate was not on the list. 692 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: Lauren Bobart replied, that's okay. We're asking all sorts of 693 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: things here, okay. A few minutes later, Bobert returned with 694 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: even more Pizzagate questions, and things escalated to the point 695 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: where they had to go off the record. 696 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 14: That's lord, are you aware of any files that were 697 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 14: on Anthony Wiener's laptop and a folder that was titled 698 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 14: Insurance Life Insurance with a ZIP file titled. 699 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 10: Chairman. 700 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 9: Is this within the scope? Mister chairman? 701 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 14: Chairman rules that it's not with mister. 702 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 9: Based on what you said in the public hearing, is 703 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 9: this within the scope? 704 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 4: For a moment, mister chairman? 705 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 9: Is this within the scope? 706 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 8: Record? 707 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: So you couldn't quite make out what Bobart was referencing there. 708 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: She was talking about the Frazzle Drip conspiracy theory that 709 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: alleged Anthony Wiener possessed a video of Hillary Clinton conducting 710 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: a satanic ritual murder of a child, cutting off this 711 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: child's face to wears a mask to fill the child's 712 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: blood with adrenochrome to be harvested. This is like a 713 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen conspiracy theory, one of one of the more 714 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: like like graphic and gross aspects of QAnon, And here 715 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: Bobert is just openly asking Hillary Clinton about Frazle drip 716 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: by name, completely inappropriate, has no bearing on the investigation. 717 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 1: It's an insult to actual victim of child sex trafficking. 718 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: So this whole conspiratorial angle of the Hillary Clinton deposition 719 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: made up a significant chunk. Another chunk that made up 720 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: a significant portion of time is just Clinton kind of 721 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: advising and the committee members both on the Republican and 722 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: Democrat side, like asking for her advice on how to 723 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: conduct their own investigation. She advised that they should follow 724 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: Senator Widens compiled Treasury data on Epstein's financial transactions, and 725 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: that data should be subpoened from the Treasury Department. She 726 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: was asked about how they could determine if Jeffrey Epstein 727 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: was a spy. Hillary advised them to send document requests 728 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: to subpoena the CIA, the Department of National Intelligence counterintelligence 729 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: departments in the DOJ, saying to quote unquote cast a 730 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: wide net. She suggested cooperating with UK investigations and to 731 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: former Prince Andrew and trying to see if Israel will 732 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: cooperate in sharing information regarding the investigation. Finally, Hillary suggested 733 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 1: to Chairman James Coohmer that he should advise on how 734 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: laws could be changed to prevent future abuse based on 735 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: the committee's knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein's manipulation techniques and mode 736 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: of operation. But there was like significant chunk of at 737 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: least like, you know, thirty minutes where she was essentially 738 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: being asked or advising the committee on how to do 739 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: their own job, just due to the sheering competence that 740 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,479 Speaker 1: has been displayed in the clips that I've selected here. 741 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 2: Well, I don't really have anything else to say besides 742 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 2: that it's just like. 743 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: Pathotic, yeah, I mean, and most of the interesting stuff 744 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: is in the Hillary Hillary Clinton won. 745 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 10: Yeah. 746 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: Bill was deposed the next day. But for some of 747 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: the like logistics regarding this hearing, a source told The 748 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: New York Post, so take that as you will. Sure 749 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: that the Clinton team demanded specific quote unquote beauty lighting 750 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: and camera positions relatable life hear to get the most 751 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: flattering angle of Hillary's face, and brought white tablecloths to 752 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: bounce the overhead lighting onto the bottom of her face 753 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: to mind of my shadows. 754 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 755 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: Pictures of the whole room also showed that the Clinton 756 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: team was the only ones with these like nice orange 757 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: upholstered chairs. The rest of the chairs were just like 758 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: regular black folding chairs. The New York Post contains this 759 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: little tidbit that the customized blue paneled backdrop was developed 760 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: by a local specialized vendor within about seven hours after 761 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: Clinton's team concluded it did not like the vibe of 762 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: the original black curtains in the background unquote. So they 763 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: like went in saw this, you know, white table with 764 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: black curtains. They thought it looked too much like a 765 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: criminal interrogation or or like a quote unquote hostage situation 766 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: is what's quoted in the Post article, as opposed to 767 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: like an official congressional deposition, you know, like an official 768 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: government venue. So they got like a local carpenter to 769 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 1: make this blue paneled backdrop in like a few hours 770 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: to put behind Hillary. And that's just an interesting insight 771 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: into like the thought process of the Clinton team regarding 772 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: the optics of this hearing shop local. So let's briefly 773 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: go through some of the sections on bill. Bill started 774 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: by saying that they should not have questioned Hillary, quote, 775 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: but I do think you should be talking to me. 776 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 1: You should have called me, I did take those plain 777 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: trips with him. You have a right to ask those questions. Unquote, 778 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 1: He said that quote, I'll be honest with you, I'll 779 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: be eighty eight years old if I lived my next birthday. 780 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: I don't remember everything that happened twenty four years ago, 781 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: but I do remember some things, and I'll tell you 782 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: what I remember the best that I can. On quote. 783 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: When asked when he first met Jeffrey Epstein, Bill referred 784 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: to a photo of him shaking Epstein's hand in nineteen 785 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: ninety three at a White House Historical Association event. But 786 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: Bill said that he doesn't remember that, but this photo 787 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: does exist. He shook a lot of people's hands. Does 788 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: not remember everyone he meets. He first remembers meeting Jeffrey 789 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,240 Speaker 1: Epstein for a Clinton Foundation plane trip in two thousand 790 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: and two. He said he was connected with Epstein through 791 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: someone named Larry Summers, who told Bill that Jeffrey Epstein 792 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,280 Speaker 1: made a large donation about ten million dollars to brain 793 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: research and was a quote unquote, information hungry person. Summers 794 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: said that Epstein wanted to talk with Bill about economics 795 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: and politics and offered to take Bill his staff and 796 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: his secret service detail on Clinton Foundation trips for global 797 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: humanitarian aid, so Bill saw this as a way to 798 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 1: drive the price down for these trips. He took the 799 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 1: last one of these flights in two thousand and three. 800 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 1: When asked why this relationship ended, Bill said that the 801 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: AIDS program, it was a humanitarian aid program to help 802 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,919 Speaker 1: with AIDS, but that this AIDS program, you know, took 803 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,760 Speaker 1: off and more people that Bill knew better offered to help, 804 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 1: and Jeffrey did not seem as interested in the AIDS program, 805 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,760 Speaker 1: so they kind of just naturally drifted apart. Bill characterized 806 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 1: the relationship as friendly, but didn't know him well enough 807 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 1: to be considered a friend, and so that he never 808 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: talked about witness or participated in anything sexual. Relating to 809 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and young women and girls, Bill said he 810 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: learned of Epstein's crimes in two thousand and eight. Bill 811 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: said he had no indication Epstein was trafficking women. Quote 812 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: There's nothing that I saw when I was around him 813 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: that made me realize he was trafficking women. Quote. Bill 814 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: was asked about if he communicated with a long list 815 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 1: of people regarding Epstein. This was kind of a weirdly 816 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: framed question. It was have you communicated with any of 817 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: these people about Jeffrey Epstein. Bill had a hard time 818 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: kind of understanding the nature of this question. It is 819 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: kind of oddly phrased. Hillary was asked the same one. 820 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: They just read a list of names. Bill recounted if 821 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: he knew the person or not, and lawyers had to specify, like, oh, no, 822 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 1: they're asking if you communicated with them about Epstein, not 823 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: if you knew them. So it kind of got some 824 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: confusing responses. Interestingly, both Hillary and Bill laughed at the 825 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: mention of Noam Chomsky. Bill said that he never communicated 826 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: with Chomsky and that Chomsky quote wasn't a big fan 827 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: of mine. He thought I was too conservative. 828 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 2: Fuck off, nome, fuck off, no crazy. 829 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: Bill did testify that he thought that someone relating to 830 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: law enforcement would ask him about Epstein in two thousand 831 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: and eight when the news about Epstein's crimes came out, 832 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: considering that Epstein let Bill use the plane, but no 833 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: one ever did m He said he never suspected Intel 834 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,800 Speaker 1: agency connections with Epstein and was at the time unaware 835 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 1: of Epstein's visits to the White House while Bill was president, 836 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: and it has only since been informed of this in 837 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: preparation for this testimony, Okay, Bill was asked about a 838 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 1: New York Times article claiming to expound on Bill and 839 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: Epstein's relationship in the nineties, characterized as chummy, which Bill denies. 840 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: He said that he didn't even know Epstein really during 841 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: this time, even though they may have been at the 842 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: same events. He was asked about but being asked to 843 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,839 Speaker 1: write a personal note to Jeffrey Epstein's mother. Bill said 844 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: that he never met Jeffrey Epstein's mother and that he 845 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,959 Speaker 1: wrote a lot of notes to a lot of people 846 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 1: that he did not know. He was unsure of who 847 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: asked him to write this note. He was also asked 848 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 1: about this passport appearing to belong to Epstein bearing a 849 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: different name, with the questioner asserting that they believe Jeffrey 850 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: Epstein was an intelligence operative running a honeypot against the president. 851 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: When later asked if he believes that he was targeted, 852 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,439 Speaker 1: Bill says that it's possible. The lawyers objected this based 853 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: on speculation, but Bill says he doesn't know if he 854 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: was targeted but would be surprised. Refers to Jeffrey Epstein 855 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: as a quote unquote vacuum cleaner of information but was 856 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,959 Speaker 1: not overtly manipulative. Early on, saying that Epstein mostly asked 857 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: about derivatives trading and stock market regulation. Bill was asked 858 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: if he ever had contact with someone named Shante Davies, 859 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 1: who was a quote unquote flight attendant on Epstein's plane. 860 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,439 Speaker 1: Bill confirms that he did, and confirmed that a neck 861 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: rub took place once with Chante Davies, but denied he 862 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: ever went to the island. 863 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 2: I don't know something about neck rub and Bill Clinton 864 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 2: just makes me stomach hurt. 865 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 866 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 1: He later says that he was unaware of the abuse 867 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: happening to Chante Davies and says that he quote wish 868 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: Schante had told me I liked her, but said that 869 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: he did not think there was anything unusual. He said 870 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: that massages on rich people's planes and boats weren't uncommon. 871 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 1: Was never aware of anyone under the age of eighteen 872 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: all these flights, and if there were, that would have 873 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: made him uncomfortable. He specified that Secret Service was with 874 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: him for every single trip. He quote never signed off 875 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: Secret Service protection. He talked about specifically this neck rub incident, 876 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 1: saying that he had a sore neck during one of 877 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,280 Speaker 1: the legs of these Clinton Foundation Aid trips and received 878 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: a massage this one time. That's what he claimed. He 879 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 1: was asked about the note in Jeffrey Epstein's fiftieth birthday book, 880 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 1: Bill said that his own staff asked him to write 881 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: a letter for the book, specifying that he sends out 882 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,720 Speaker 1: hundreds of birthday letters every year to friends or people 883 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 1: he's only met a few times. A regular occurrence, he's 884 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: asked to read a section of the letter that people 885 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: had a hard time transcribing exactly, which makes a reference 886 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 1: to Epstein having made errors in his life, and he 887 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: was asked whether this errors referred to sex crimes. Bill said, no, 888 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: in the life of someone fifty years old, they're going 889 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: to make mistakes. It was a throwaway line in one 890 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: section of this very short letter. I don't think it's 891 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 1: super relevant. Now. Around this time when they're reading from 892 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 1: this letter is where there's this viral clip of Bill 893 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 1: pulling back a copy of a photo from his lawyers 894 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 1: like while smiling. This is circulated a lot. It looks 895 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 1: like he's no recounting like good memories or something. The 896 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: piece paper he's pulling back is actually just a copy 897 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: of a new York Times article. It's not a picture 898 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,240 Speaker 1: of him and Epstein. It's not a picture of memories. 899 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: There may be a small photo framed in the picture 900 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: included in this New York Times article. It's being passed around, 901 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 1: but it's not like he's like flipping through like a 902 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: year book of like a good moments with friends and like, 903 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, happily recounting. I think this, this little clip's 904 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: been decontextualized. 905 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 2: I agree. 906 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm not not trying to defend Bill Clinton here. 907 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 2: No, but I'm adding context for what's. 908 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: Actually happening in this hearing. And his lawyers are passing 909 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 1: around a copy of a New York Times article which 910 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 1: he's being questioned about, and that's the context for that clip. 911 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 2: And like, this clip went pretty viral, and so I 912 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 2: was talking about it actually with my mom My. Mom 913 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 2: My mom's first reaction held some weight with me. She 914 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 2: was like, that's just Bill Clinton's face. 915 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: He's kind of this happy, goofy guy. 916 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 2: Like he's generally like a smiley guy. And you know, 917 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 2: I think that makes sense contextually. Here again, not defending 918 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 2: Bill Clinton, but yeah. 919 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: I do want to play one clip about Trump. Bill 920 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 1: was asked if the committee should talk to Donald Trump 921 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,919 Speaker 1: since his name appears more frequently in the thousand almost 922 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: any other person. Bill says, that's up to the committee 923 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: and mentions an instance where he talked with Trump about 924 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 1: Epstein on a golf course for a charity tournament around 925 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: to US in two to TWISM three, and they talked 926 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,280 Speaker 1: about Epstein because Trump somehow knew that Bill had flown 927 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 1: on the plane. But besides this incident, he had no 928 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 1: other conversations with Trump about Epstein or Maxwell. 929 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 8: The day I was there, he would typically. 930 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 10: Donald Trump would come out and play a few holes 931 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 10: with us, and he somehow knew I had flown in 932 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 10: Jeffrey Epstein's aircraft. And he said, you know, we have 933 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 10: some great times together over the years, but we fell 934 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 10: out all because of a real estate deal. 935 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,720 Speaker 8: And he said, I'm sorry it that's all. 936 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,800 Speaker 15: Do you recall whether President Trump was the first one 937 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 15: to affirmatively bring up the subject of Jeffrey Epstein. 938 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 8: No, but I'd be shocked if I did. I just 939 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,439 Speaker 8: don't do that, you know. 940 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 15: Do you recall whether President Trump elaborated at all on 941 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 15: the great times that he had with Jeffrey Epstein. 942 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 10: No, And I took at the time I took. No, 943 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 10: I didn't put any you know, sexual stint on it. 944 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 15: And as far as you recall, President Trump characterized the 945 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,240 Speaker 15: nature of the ending of their friendship as being solely 946 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 15: due to the real estate he said. 947 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: Interestingly, here Bill recounts that Trump's reason for breaking with 948 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 1: Epstein was due to a real estate deal, not the 949 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,400 Speaker 1: poaching of employees at mar A Lago, as alternatively reported. 950 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: Right the minority, the Democrats referred to statements from three 951 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,959 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein victims in statements, including Bill, in some way. 952 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: Starting with someone named Maria Farmer, an Epstein employee who 953 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,720 Speaker 1: first reported abuse to the NYPDNFBI in nineteen ninety six, 954 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,359 Speaker 1: She claimed that she acknowledge that Bill visited Epstein's house 955 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,760 Speaker 1: multiple times. Bill denies this. Someone named Virginia Roberts Druffey 956 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:37,240 Speaker 1: remarked that she had knowledge that Bill was at Epstein's island. 957 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 1: Bill responded by saying that ultimately his person quote unquote 958 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 1: reached a different conclusion and denied declaimed that he flew 959 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,320 Speaker 1: in a helicopter with Glenn Maxwell to the island. The 960 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: committee member reference a diary entry as the piece of 961 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 1: information asserting that Bill was on the island. Bill's lawyers 962 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: asked about the dates for this entry so that they 963 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: could determine whether Bill was in a different part of 964 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: the world around this time. But this gets moved on 965 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,439 Speaker 1: pretty quick. They briefly bring up this picture of Bill 966 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 1: in a hot tub in Brunei. He says that he 967 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,399 Speaker 1: was staying at a hotel during one of these AIDS 968 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 1: trips and briefly went to a hot tub. Other people 969 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 1: were present from this trip secret Service. That's about a 970 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 1: bizarre painting of Bill Clinton wearing Monica Lewinsky's blue dress 971 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: found in Jeffrey Epstein's apartment. Bill said he'd never seen 972 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: it before. Was asked to speculate why this painting was made. 973 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 1: Lawyers said that the committee can ask the artist. Lauren 974 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: Barber goes on a very poor line of questioning regarding 975 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 1: a conversation transcript between two people, and this line of 976 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 1: questioning requires deposition to go off the record to figure 977 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,280 Speaker 1: out what exactly she's talking about. 978 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 10: Bill. 979 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 1: Event she responds to a question stating that he never 980 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: felt that he owed Jeffrey Epstein any favors and never 981 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: participated in any quote unquote to island orgies since he 982 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,720 Speaker 1: never traveled to the US Virgin Islands with Jeffrey Epstein 983 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: about two hours in. Bill Clinton has asked if he 984 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: thinks Jeffrey Epstein killed himself, something they never asked. Hillary. 985 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 8: I would just like to ask. 986 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 14: You, personally and directly, do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein 987 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 14: killed himself? 988 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,439 Speaker 9: Are you asking him to speculate on how mister Epstein died? 989 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 14: I am asking what Miss the President thinks when you're 990 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 14: asking his opinion, Mister President, was your was your friend Jeffrey. 991 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 9: Epstein's cessifying him as a friend who he has testified. 992 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,280 Speaker 14: That he's a friend in a letter. 993 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 9: He said he was friendly, but not you've asked for 994 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,280 Speaker 9: his test President. 995 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 14: Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein was suicidal? 996 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 10: Do you know? 997 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 14: Was he ever suicidal? 998 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 8: I don't know. 999 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 10: I don't know what the medical founding was. I think 1000 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 10: maybe he finally got caught. 1001 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 8: I don't know. I've accepted it my own mom. I 1002 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,760 Speaker 8: don't know what happened, Miss President. 1003 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 14: What did you accept that he killed himself or. 1004 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 8: That he did not that he did? But I don't know. 1005 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 14: Yes, sir, and none of us know, Miss President has 1006 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:06,959 Speaker 14: been an honor. 1007 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you. 1008 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 2: Why would you ask him that that makes no sense? 1009 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,399 Speaker 1: I mean again, this is Lauren Bobber, the same person 1010 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 1: asking about pizza Gate. He's she's trying to donkey in 1011 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,959 Speaker 1: as many of these conspiracy theory questions as she can, 1012 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 1: because that's that's like who she is, right, she has 1013 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: she is a conspiracy theorist herself. She may not characterist 1014 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: it that way, but she's trying to, you know, go 1015 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 1: go off a checklist of like epic owns against the 1016 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 1: Evil Child eating Clinton's a few other few other small 1017 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: notes that I think are interesting. Bill was asked about 1018 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 1: emails being sent to Glene Maxwell by one of his assistants, 1019 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: and Bill says that he never sent these emails and 1020 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 1: he's only ever sent two emails in his life, which 1021 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,919 Speaker 1: I do believe I can too. 1022 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 3: It's so crazy, Oh, Bill Well. 1023 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 1: Bill's asked about a statement that Epstein made saying that 1024 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: Bill quote unquote likes them young. Bill Lawyer's asked, you know, 1025 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: if Bill's be asked to speculate on Jeffrey Epstein's mind. 1026 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 1: Bill says that this isn't true, that he quote unquote 1027 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: likes them young and never went to the island again. 1028 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 1: Mace later asks if it's unusual for a quote unquote 1029 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: sitting president to receive a massage. Bill Sawyers had to 1030 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 1: argue back and forth because Bill was not a sitting 1031 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 1: president during the time where this neck massage incident occurred. 1032 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 1: Bill's once again asked if he was the target of 1033 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,920 Speaker 1: an intel operation, he says, I doubt it. There was 1034 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 1: then an extended argument between Mace and Lawyer's reference to 1035 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: Daily Beast reporting on a statement Bill made after Jeffrey 1036 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: Epstein's to his a nineteen arrest, mischaracterizing two instances where 1037 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: Jeffy Epstein visited the Clinton office and Bill once visited 1038 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: Jeffy Epstein's New York compartment, which he later remarked Jeffrey 1039 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 1: Epstein was not even present for, and Nancy Mays kept 1040 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 1: asking if Bill lied about only meeting Jeffrey Epstein at 1041 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 1: these two times based on the phrasing of the Daily 1042 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 1: Beast article, but the full statement that the Daily Beast 1043 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 1: was quoting from also lists the four plane trips, which 1044 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: contained a total of seventeen stops. The Beast article just 1045 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 1: mischaracterized this as only being two incidents, and Mace was 1046 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 1: referring to the article, not the actual original statement. This 1047 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 1: resulted in a pretty extensive argument. This leads us to 1048 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 1: the final clip that I'll play, which I think is 1049 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 1: kind of the only interesting question across the nine hours 1050 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 1: of testimony, the only question I think is actually kind 1051 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 1: of interesting and worthwhile, and it's not actually followed up 1052 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: on in any substantial way. Nancy Maaska asks why the 1053 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: Clintons still associated with Glade Maxwell after Jeffrey Epstein's first conviction, 1054 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 1: knowing that Maxwell was one of Epstein's closest associates. 1055 00:59:52,240 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 10: First of all, when the wedding occurred, she was with 1056 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 10: Ted White, and she was for several more years. We 1057 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 10: did not know when Sane was arrested that she was 1058 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 10: still involved with him. 1059 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 8: I think that clears a lot of this up. 1060 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 10: We didn't know, and I don't want all of me 1061 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 10: to get We're all getting an allowed. 1062 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 8: There's a logical extromation. We didn't know, and I'm sorry 1063 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 8: for what she did and what she allowed her life 1064 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 8: to become and now she's living with it. 1065 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 1: They do not follow up on this at all. The 1066 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: fact that the Clinton's, knowing that Maxwell was like Epstein's 1067 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 1: number two guys, spent a decent amount of time with 1068 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 1: on these four plane trips and to US and two 1069 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 1: to two US and three on these humanitarian aid Clinton 1070 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Foundation trips. You know, a lot of time I'm with 1071 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 1: Glaine and Epstein. The committee did not follow up on 1072 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 1: why they continued to associate even loosely, like very loosely 1073 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 1: with Glaine after the Twestaate conviction. Yeah, that's a pretty 1074 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,919 Speaker 1: reasonable question to have, and it just doesn't even get 1075 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 1: focused on very much. Instead, they started talking about this 1076 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 1: report from an Epstein victim about Bill Clinton allegedly walking 1077 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 1: into the offices of Vanity Fair and threatening them to 1078 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 1: not write sex trafficking articles about Jeffrey Epstein, something that 1079 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,560 Speaker 1: Bill obviously denies, and there would be other witnesses for 1080 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 1: this event. But like this, this question about the Clinton's 1081 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 1: extended relationship with Glaine Maxwell after the first conviction is 1082 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,440 Speaker 1: one of the very last questions asked. It takes them 1083 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: nine hours to get there. Yeah, they don't even follow 1084 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,479 Speaker 1: up on it, and it just kind of ends very 1085 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 1: very flaccid. 1086 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,919 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to the survivors, Like, you're not getting any 1087 01:01:54,000 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 2: kind of justice. This committee is incompetent, embarrassing, and pugnant. 1088 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that kind of sums up the hearing, all 1089 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 1: of the hearings they were inconfident, embarrassing and repugnant, really 1090 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 1: spending more time on weird conspiracy theories than asking like new. 1091 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 2: Questions on Pizzagate. 1092 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, because like they asked Hillary and Bill basically the 1093 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: same two questions over and over again, the same answers, 1094 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 1: wasting hours and hours of time. The only new questions 1095 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 1: they asked are these insane conspiracy ones. It's it's embarrassing, 1096 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 1: it does not hold any relevance to the investigation, and 1097 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 1: it's nine hours of my life I'll never get back. 1098 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:31,680 Speaker 2: Yep. 1099 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,959 Speaker 1: Well, that does it for us here at it could 1100 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 1: happen Here. We'll keep following some of these some of 1101 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,880 Speaker 1: these hearings and depositions as this continues. I know there 1102 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 1: was new FBI documents about witness statements regarding President Trump 1103 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 1: released as I was writing this, like last night, and 1104 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 1: we'll probably be talking about those in executive disorder and 1105 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,960 Speaker 1: later on throughout our coverage. 1106 01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 16: Bye, Hi, it could happen Here is a production of 1107 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 16: cool Zone Media. 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