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Speaker 2: All right, what's the big deal really? We'll explain that

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Speaker 2: a week it's been. I can't wait to talk to

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Speaker 2: him here he is as always Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: How are you, Buck?

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Speaker 3: I'm good and what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Everything is good. I couldn't wait to talk to you today.

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Speaker 2: I got to get something off my chest. But first

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Speaker 2: the news of the day. I guess everybody's telling you

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Speaker 2: about the Masters. You know why there's nothing else going on?

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Speaker 2: Really too early for baseball. NBA players haven't started yet,

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Speaker 2: NCAA basketball is over, you know football, the draft is

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Speaker 2: like about ten twelve days away. So it's Master's time.

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Speaker 2: And they got Rory McElroy right now. Two stroke leader

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Speaker 2: to the finals today. He's twelve under fifty four. That's

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Speaker 2: the good news. Do you watch golf, do you play golf?

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Speaker 2: Tell me I'd like to know.

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Speaker 4: I can't say that I'm an avid golf watcher participant,

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Speaker 4: but I know enough to know what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Also, I'm good enough to.

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Speaker 4: Not embarrass myself when I go play in scrambles, so

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Speaker 4: I know a little bit.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm glad. I'm glad you're kind of on

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Speaker 2: the same wavelength as me. You know, the golf situation

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Speaker 2: is like, you know, you get invited to these golf tournaments,

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Speaker 2: you gotta go right. Other than that, I could care

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Speaker 2: less about golf really, And I'm gonna take a page

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Speaker 2: out of my buddy Mike North. If they have the

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Speaker 2: Masters in my backyard, I close the curtains really because

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Speaker 2: I want to know what's the big deal. And I

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Speaker 2: said that early on everybody smooth, smooth, smooth.

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Speaker 1: I'm here the announcers on TV.

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Speaker 2: He's going up to the tee and no, I'm tired

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Speaker 2: of it. First of all, golf is not a sport.

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Speaker 2: It's recreation number one, all right, number two. It has

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Speaker 2: no gambling interest whatsoever. Yeah, they have a pool now

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Speaker 2: and again. But that's basically not really big gambling. Where's

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Speaker 2: the defense? Most great sports have defenses. In football, they

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Speaker 2: have a special defensive unit. Golf has no defense. We're

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Speaker 2: at the storylines. Where's the controversy. That's what sports is

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Speaker 2: all about. And I'll tell you what else about sports?

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Speaker 2: And what about golf and the Masters in particular. It's

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Speaker 2: an elitist sport. Bill, No one's gonna say it. I'll

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Speaker 2: say it. Golf is an elitist sport. Even the name,

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Speaker 2: the name Masters. Are you freaking kidding me?

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Speaker 1: You can't even use the.

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Speaker 2: Term master bedroom anymore? Masters, change the name. It's an

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Speaker 2: elitist sport. It's a selective sport. It's too long, it's

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Speaker 2: four freaking days. The public doesn't and the public can't relate.

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Speaker 2: They can't relate to the Masters. They can't relate to golf. Now,

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Speaker 2: I will tell you this. I challenge anybody, anybody and

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Speaker 2: everybody to challenge me on what I had to say

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Speaker 2: about the Masters on golf in general. At eight seven

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Speaker 2: to seven ninety nine on Fox sixty three sixty nine,

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Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks, I know you agree with me.

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Speaker 1: I know you're gonna agree it's an elitist sport.

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Speaker 2: And the term masters in this day and age, Are

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Speaker 2: you freaking kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't. I don't. I'm on the other side

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Speaker 3: of defense. I don't take.

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Speaker 4: Offense to the masters being called the masters, because I

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Speaker 4: think it's masters of the basics, masters of skills in

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Speaker 3: So I don't see it as anything beyond that. In

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Speaker 4: And like needing pizzazz, I don't know, Like I mean,

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Speaker 4: my lifetime where you've had a sizeable superstar that was

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Speaker 3: For such a long period.

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Speaker 4: And it's definitely not tied to win it because we've

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Speaker 3: Roy McLeroy is at the top of the list.

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Speaker 4: He's won significant enough to maybe make people like follow winners.

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Speaker 4: Winning, I think it's a little bit about everything. It's

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Speaker 4: they just don't have anyone that captivates the minds of

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Speaker 4: a lot of that on Tiger Woods. He was so good,

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Speaker 4: he was so captivating, He made so many people kind

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Speaker 3: They haven't been able to replace that.

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Speaker 4: And so that's really why you haven't seen the same

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Speaker 2: Blessed you, Bucky Brooks. Okay, I'm gonna say something right now.

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Speaker 2: You got that clown and we'll get to him later

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Speaker 2: on Today in Memphis, the Memphis Cruzy John Morant, even

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Speaker 2: he's going off again. I'll tell you this much. You

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Speaker 2: get a John Morant and Rory McElroy and announced they're

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Speaker 2: guarantee you John Moran well the audience as opposed to

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Speaker 2: Rory McElroy. That's just the way that people relate to

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Speaker 2: John Moran, good bit or and different. No matter what

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Speaker 2: with his fingers, whatever you want to do, but more

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Speaker 2: people will relate to him than to Rory McElroy Because

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Speaker 2: I will say it again, golf is an elitist sport

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Speaker 2: only for certain people, certain age groups. And really, you know,

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Speaker 2: you got money to play golf, That's basically what it is.

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Speaker 2: And most people right now don't have that extra money

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Speaker 2: to play golf. They don't, they really don't. I just think, look,

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Speaker 2: play golf. But I will say this, I still say

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Speaker 2: it's a recreation. It's not a sport, period.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: I John Moran, No, I think it's I still think

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Speaker 4: I think it's a sport because, like there's some exertion

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Speaker 3: Everyone can't play. There's a skill level that you have

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Speaker 4: And when you think about like other sports that we

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Speaker 4: And there's typically a crossover to those skills like the

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Speaker 3: So I won't.

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Speaker 4: Disrespect golfers by saying it's not a sport. I think

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Speaker 4: it's different, but I think certainly is a sport.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll say this.

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Speaker 2: Let's say, for example, that're having an opening, a grand

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Speaker 2: I don't care, and they invite Roy McElroy or John Moran,

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Speaker 2: more people will show up if it's promoted that John

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Speaker 2: Moran's going to be there. A good bitter and different

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Speaker 2: get it, But more people can relate to him, more

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Speaker 2: just the way it is. And I'll tell you something

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Speaker 2: More business deals are cut on the golf course than

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Speaker 2: anywhere else. It's a social event. That's basically what It's fine.

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Speaker 2: Come on, it's an event, the good news about the masses.

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Speaker 2: And they're lucky about this. As I said, there's nothing

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Speaker 2: All right, if you say so. I listened to you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he had a heck of a

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Speaker 2: ninety think about it. I mean, come on, but again,

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Speaker 2: people love it and it's very stage.

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Speaker 1: It really is.

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Speaker 2: It's for older people, for older white people, ages sixty

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's demographic, but it definitely, I mean,

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Speaker 4: it definitely isn't one that has been wide open like

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Speaker 4: like whatever that is.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think they've tried to make efforts to

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Speaker 4: And I'm saying this like Tiger Woods was a once

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Speaker 2: But you know what, it's funny because you know, people

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Speaker 1: That's what sports talk radio is.

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Speaker 2: Have an opinion. That's what you do, Okay, And this

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Speaker 2: relate to. Howie Roseman, the general manager vice president of

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Speaker 2: That's beautiful. Really, Roger Goodell, take a page out of

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Speaker 2: Howie Roseman. That's what you should do. The public would

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But I think that goes above how he rose

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Speaker 4: their background, allegations, convictions, instances, the transgressions, boom, they were

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Speaker 2: I had never thought that, because I don't think Howie

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Speaker 2: You know, it makes Howie Roseman looked like a genius. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm not so certain the public cares. You know, what

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't ride with you and Dad. I think

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Speaker 4: in those things. Think, ultimately, as I sit here and

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Speaker 4: tell you about like branding and character in those things,

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Speaker 4: I would say, the greater the talent, the higher the tolerance.

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Speaker 4: So the more talented the player, the more tolerance you

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Speaker 4: may get given those instances and circumstances in those things.

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Speaker 4: And whether we can call it fair or not, that's

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Speaker 4: just kind of the American way, right. The American way

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Speaker 4: is when someone is immensely talented, they may be forgiven

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Speaker 4: more so than those who don't have the same level

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Speaker 4: of talent. It's not fair, but that's just kind of

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Speaker 4: how it goes. And the same thing exists in the

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Speaker 4: NFL and other sports. If a player is super talented,

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Speaker 4: they may be given a couple of second chances, or

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Speaker 4: a second or third chance to kind of right or

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Speaker 4: wrong while being able to participate.

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Speaker 1: Now, if I may, I want to ask you will

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Speaker 1: not this.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: It was Howie Roseman involved with the Eagles when Michael

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Speaker 2: Vick was there.

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Speaker 4: I think he had to be in the organization in

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Speaker 4: psych capacity because that was the Michael that was the

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Speaker 4: Andy Reid era. I know Roseman was maybe a part

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Speaker 4: of the organization at that time, not as a high

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Speaker 4: ranking sound but he may have been around it. But

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Speaker 4: regardless whether he was there or not, the organization stood

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Speaker 4: for that, and Jeffrey Lewie was the owner of the

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Speaker 4: team during that time, so whatever it stood for then,

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Speaker 4: they continued to stand for now and the Michael Vick

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Speaker 4: situation was one where they were able to kind of

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Speaker 4: find a way to do it.

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Speaker 2: could get Bucky Brooks at Bucket Brooks on x we

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Speaker 2: could get him on at Andy Permanent fas Are and

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Speaker 2: of course eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox without

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Speaker 2: as Bucky This hour, yay n a hour number two

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Speaker 2: in the Playing Game of Nur number three. But life

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Speaker 2: really does begin at forty for one NFL player.

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Speaker 3: That's next.

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Speaker 2: All right, someone has something to say about this move.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio in the iHeart app and it'll always

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Speaker 2: pop up at the top of your screen. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I want to wish everybody a happy Palm Sunday this

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Speaker 2: Sunday before Easter Sunday. And when I think of the

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Speaker 2: word Palm Sunday, Bucky, I think of like they never

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Speaker 2: call palming the ball and basketball anymore. They don't call it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I watch these games all the time. These

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Speaker 2: guys are turning the ball up, they're dribbling up to

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Speaker 2: their shoulder, and they never called palming the ball that

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Speaker 2: in three seconds are never called it anymore. But happy

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Speaker 2: Palm Sundays.

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Speaker 3: There you go, Okay?

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Speaker 2: And next next next Sunday is Easter Sunday, the two

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Speaker 2: days people go to church today and next Sunday is true. Right,

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Speaker 2: But it's gonna be rough this year because there won't

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Speaker 2: be many Easter egg hunts because the price of eggs

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Speaker 2: are gone up so high. Really, so I'm gonna see

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Speaker 2: a big, big backlog on Easter egg hunts next Sunday

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Speaker 2: for Easter Sunday, Right, you agree with that?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, it's gonna be a different It certainly would

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Speaker 3: be different.

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Speaker 4: Like you don't have the time to waste on Easter

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Speaker 4: eggs like you would at the past because they are

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Speaker 4: so expensive.

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Speaker 3: It'd be more of a luxury to be able to

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Speaker 3: use them now.

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Speaker 2: And you know who could help us buy some Easter

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Speaker 2: eggs this year? Joe Flacco. At forty years of age,

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Speaker 2: he was signed to a one year deal for four

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Speaker 2: mil by the Cleveland Browns. Now, I'd had a good move,

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Speaker 2: a bad move or desperation move, that's what I think

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Speaker 2: it is. I mean, maybe it was a move to

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Speaker 2: kind of put a little fire on the Deshaun Watson's

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Speaker 2: rear end.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't know if they're factoring Deshaun Watson

532
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Speaker 4: in the plans, but his achilles injury and those things,

533
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Speaker 4: he's not slated to come back until mid to late

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: At this point.

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Speaker 4: What it does, it tells me is Joe Flacco and

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Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett are going to battle out to be the

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Speaker 4: starting quarterback, and Joe Flacco is probably going to win

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Speaker 4: the job. Joe Flacco had a lot of success in

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Speaker 4: Cleveland previously, was in NFL Comeback Player of the Year

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Speaker 4: in leading the Cleveland Browns to the playoffs, and then

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Speaker 4: they didn't bring him back because they didn't want to

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Speaker 4: create this competition or they wanted to make sure that

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Speaker 4: they protected Deshaun Watson's insecurities. If Joe Flacco's in the room,

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Speaker 4: well now all the gloves are off. Jimmy Haslam admitted

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Speaker 4: that they made a mistake when they brought in Deshaun Wasson.

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Speaker 4: KM Stefanski and Andrew Berry are in kind of win

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Speaker 4: nail mode, and it makes sense for them to go

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Speaker 4: and get Joe Flacco because it frees them up to

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Speaker 4: be able to draft the best player available at number two.

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Speaker 4: And we can presume that it's going to be Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 4: To me, yeah, Deshaun Watson is a not a factor

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Speaker 4: in the scenario in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 3: Wow. All.

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Speaker 2: You know, when they signed Joe Flacco, I remember two

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Speaker 2: years ago they brought him moll off the couch. You know,

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Speaker 2: it proves to me, maybe enough to be in shape

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Speaker 2: to play football. I don't know, but maybe in a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know them. When they signed him just

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Speaker 2: the other day, you know, and he was a first

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Speaker 2: round in two thousand and eight by the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to see his stats, all right, this guy

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Speaker 2: has thrown for over forty five thousand yards and two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty seven touchdowns. I mean, seventeen years in

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Speaker 2: the National Football League. An MVP is Super Bowl XLV

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Speaker 2: one one when the Ravens beat the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I said, you know, I always thought

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Speaker 2: he was sort of like a journeyman.

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Speaker 1: This guy could play.

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Speaker 2: I mean really, because I just remember when they brought

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Speaker 2: him off the couch two years ago and it just

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00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: came and he did well. He really did so with

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Speaker 2: no preseason working out or whatever it may be What

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Speaker 2: does that tell you at forty years of age you

575
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Speaker 2: can get it done to Look, he's not Lebron James,

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Speaker 2: who's forty. I mean, it's a lot more athleticism in

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Speaker 2: the NBA than the NFL as far as quarterbacks concern.

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Speaker 2: But still at all he could throw.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he absolutely can throw.

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Speaker 4: And he's one of the original quarterbacks that better themselves

581
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: to turn a modest contract or offer into a megabucks contract.

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00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 4: He did that that season he led to Baltimore Ravens

583
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Speaker 4: to a super Bowl because he bettered himself and he delivered,

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Speaker 4: and others like Dak Prescott had benefited from being able

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Speaker 4: to better themselves and deliver and make big money. For

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Speaker 4: Joe Flacco, he has always been someone when played in

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00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 4: the offense at his vertical base, he's crushed it. When

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00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 4: he had Gary Kubiak as it's coordinated with the Baltimore Ravens,

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00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: those were his best years. When he has teamed up

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00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 4: with other guys that have really freed him to push

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00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 4: the ball down the field, he's been at his best.

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00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 4: Kevin Stefanski's system really works well for what Joe Flacco

593
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Speaker 4: does really well. This is a good move for the Browns,

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Speaker 4: and I would say an even better move than the

595
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Speaker 4: move that people expected them to make for Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 4: To me, Joe Flacco at this stage of his career,

597
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 4: it's still a much better player than Kirk Cousins. And

598
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Speaker 4: in a one in a one year scenario where you're

599
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 4: just trying to get this team kind of up and

600
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Speaker 4: running in the mix to buy yourself time, I understand

601
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 4: what Kevin Stefanski made the move and why the Cleveland

602
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: Browns opted for Joe Flacco over anybody else on the market.

603
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Speaker 2: This is a statistic that if I'm with the Cleveland Browns,

604
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: I bury. I don't want anybody to know about it,

605
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna let you know because it's an embarrassment.

606
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: It really is. Joe Flacco is one of the three

607
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that has a winning record with the Browns since

608
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 2: they return to Cleveland. The other two Brian Hoyer and

609
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: case Keenum. That is pathetic. That's pathetic, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Really? I didn't think they were that bad.

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00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I would

612
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 4: call it pathetic, Andy, I mean, it's just a reality,

613
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 4: like they have not been a good franchise. They've not

614
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 4: been a good team and the quarterback play has been

615
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 4: an issue. And when you look at what they've finally

616
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Speaker 4: been able to do with Joe Flacco, it makes sense

617
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 4: to bring him back.

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Speaker 3: They have not had quarterbacks who've been able.

619
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Speaker 4: To kind of understand what it is to be effective

620
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Speaker 4: in the dog pound. Joe Flacco is one of those,

621
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Speaker 4: and we'll see if he can turn back the clock

622
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: one time at one more time at forty. But I understand,

623
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Speaker 4: I understand the logic behind the move.

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00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: So that's why I can kind of I can go

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00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: with this. I can go with this. If I'm a

626
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: Browns Yan, I should be able to support this as.

627
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Speaker 2: A Browns with Jimmy Haslam is the owner of the Browns.

628
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: He's the guy that I guess he signed the paychecks.

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Speaker 2: His name is under paycheck. He went public the other

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Speaker 2: day and he said that Deshaun Watson was a failed gamble, right,

631
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: and it's got to really hurt him in the wall

632
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: because he showed out Mega Bucks to sign this guy

633
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Speaker 2: and it kind of opened up the door for the

634
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: quarterbacks getting big time money. Really, a quarterback should thank

635
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: Jimmy Haslim. But you know when he did that and

636
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Speaker 2: then I guess with the signing of Joe Flacco, all

637
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Speaker 2: of a sudden, I mean, Watson goes public.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: He says that although the brown says could be very unlikely,

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00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: he could take another snap of Cleveland. And he's only

641
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: played in nineteen games since the Brown's got him in

642
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: exchange for those three first round picks in twenty twenty two.

643
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: But he came back on social media. He says, your

644
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: best performance comes from your back is against the wall.

645
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: This is what he says. You don't have anything to lose,

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Speaker 2: and I feel that's where I'm in right now. You know,

647
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: everybody's doubting me. Everyone don't believe in me. Everyone don't

648
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: think that I can get back to where I was.

649
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: But I know and I believe. I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 2: I belie great to say.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all of that is great, but over the past

652
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Speaker 4: four years, we have little evidence to back that up.

653
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Speaker 4: And people are talking about the Cleveland years. But here's

654
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 4: what I'll say. The demise in the fall of Deshaun

655
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 4: Watson happened when he, I guess, did a holdout hold

656
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 4: in for the Houston Texas and wanted to be traded,

657
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: so he didn't play that year, he got suspended for

658
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: ten games. The following year he got hurt and miss

659
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 4: time the year after that, and then he's been hurt.

660
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 3: So he hasn't been around.

661
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 4: But four years is a lifetime in the NFL. Understand this,

662
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 4: and they talk about the average NFL career being three

663
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 4: and a half years on average, but the majority of

664
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 4: people don't play longer than a year or two. So

665
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: he literally missed an NFL lifetime being good way due

666
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: to hold out, suspension and injuries. To think that after

667
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 4: a four year I won't call it sabbatical, but a

668
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 4: four year journey in which you didn't play a lot,

669
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Speaker 4: that you're going to miraculously come back and be a better.

670
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: Player, it is a long shot at best.

671
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Speaker 4: And so the only thing that you can do as

672
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Speaker 4: an executive, if you're the Browns man, you got to

673
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: live in reality. And the reality is since Deshaun Watson

674
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 4: has been with the Browns, he has not played well.

675
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: And if you think anything is going to change, it's lunacy,

676
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: just because you have to deal in a fact based world.

677
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 3: The fact suggests.

678
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 4: That he has not played well in Cleveland and it's

679
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 4: unlikely for him to turn it around. In that environment,

680
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 4: in that scheme, in those things, so he can talk

681
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Speaker 4: about it, but we'll see.

682
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Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of strange. He came out and

683
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: said this and continuing what he has to say, unquoting,

684
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm prepared, he said, And I think before I wasn't prepared.

685
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Speaker 1: You know what, I guess when he got the money.

686
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: That is.

687
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: Crazy. That is crazy.

688
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: If he said that he was not prepared and I'm

689
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 4: sorry I cut you off before it didn't say anything

690
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: else about did he say anything else about the preparation

691
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 4: and why he wasn't prepared previously?

692
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Speaker 2: And I think before I was to be paid because

693
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: I was kind of going with the flow of how

694
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: the world was seeing me. But when you kind of

695
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: get knocked down to the ground, you got to stand

696
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: back and walk through the rain. That brings out another fire,

697
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: another challenge, another grit that you have inside you, my mentality,

698
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: the things that I got to dig with on the outside.

699
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 2: I'm not taking everything personal like I did before.

700
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Speaker 4: Whatever that means I mean now I've said this, And

701
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: for disclosure, I knowic Sean a little bit. I've known

702
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: him since he was in high school. I worked on

703
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 4: the lead eleven when he came through. I talked to

704
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 4: him a few times after that or whatever. Can't say

705
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 4: that we're best friends or there's a mental relationship, but

706
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 4: I know, I know the kid. I known him at

707
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 4: his best, and I always knew that when he was

708
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: going through this. He's always been the hometown hero. He's

709
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 4: always been celebrated, he's always been lifted up. There were

710
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: people that really loved his story, and the story that

711
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: he had coming up was a great one.

712
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

713
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 4: The habitat for humility, living in these houses, coming back,

714
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: giving back, doing all these wonderful things. When he gets

715
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: caught up in this scander, the massage scandal too, which

716
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 4: is very similar to the Scandalda Justin Tucker's involved in,

717
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 4: and he's struggling and all of that stuff, it's the

718
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 4: first time that he was viewed in a negative light

719
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 4: and different situation. But I would say same mentality when

720
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 4: Lebron James went from Cleveland to Miami and was vilified.

721
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 4: Lebron James had never been vilified prior to that point.

722
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: And some people love dealing with like, oh, I'm the villain. Cool,

723
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: I'll lean into that dark side, and that won't discourage me,

724
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 4: it won't knock me down. In fact, I feed off

725
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 4: of that. Deshaun Watson is not one of those guys,

726
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 4: much like Lebron James isn't. Deshaun Watson fees off the

727
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: adoration of others, and when the world turned on him,

728
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: very very difficult for him to deal with it. Now,

729
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 4: that's not me knowing him and saying, oh, he told

730
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: me that. That's me looking at him and understanding his

731
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: personality type.

732
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Speaker 3: That's very, very difficult.

733
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 4: It's very difficult for some people who have been heroes

734
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 4: to be the villain and to bounce back. And so

735
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 4: now to talk about like being better prepared for it,

736
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 4: it's hard.

737
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: For me to believe that after four years you better

738
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: prepared for it.

739
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 4: I'll have to see it. Who's to say it can happen,

740
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 4: but man, it's really unlikely. And when you say that

741
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 4: you weren't prepared, what it does is it makes people think, like,

742
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 4: wait a minute.

743
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 3: You just had a.

744
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 4: Contract that rewards you like highest guaranteed, most guaranteed money

745
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: of any quarterback in the league, fully guaranteed deal that

746
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 4: people were dying to have NFL players get. And at

747
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 4: that point when you got the contract, you didn't feel

748
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 4: like you were prepared for whatever's about to take place

749
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 4: on or off the field. To me, man, that is

750
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 4: even crazier for him to suggest and say that. And

751
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 4: so even though he's saying like, oh, I'm better prepared

752
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: to deal with it, I think people will look at

753
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: it and be like, well, why weren't you prepared.

754
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: To deal with it before you knew it was coming?

755
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 3: You had three years to deal with it. Why weren't

756
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 3: you prepared to deal with it before?

757
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 4: Like, to me, that is that is kind of crazy

758
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 4: and a blinking light if I'm someone that either is

759
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 4: intrigued by him or wanna want to bring a man

760
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 4: potentially down the line.

761
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: When I reach stuff like that, I think of Marvin

762
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: Lewis the film a Bengals coach. He always said I

763
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: see better than I hear, so we'll see what he

764
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: could do.

765
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks.

766
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm defirming. This is Fox Sports Sunny and Fox Sports Radio.

767
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 2: So many questions, but he has all the answers. Ask

768
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: Bucky is next. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports

769
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,680
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Speaker 2: Search FSR to listen live. All right, ass, Bucky, coming

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00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 2: right up. That's Bucket Brooks. I'm in Defermative live from

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Speaker 2: tune in to Draft Night Live on Thursday, April twenty

778
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Speaker 2: fourth at APM easton throughout the first round of the

779
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Speaker 2: draft inside of Jay Glazer, former Jets general manager Joe Douglas,

780
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Speaker 2: college Football Hall of Famer LeVar Arrington. A Fox Sports

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00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: League college football reporter Jenny taff will have picked by pick,

782
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: predictions and reactions to every first round pick. That's Thursday,

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Speaker 2: April twenty fourth, at a pm Eastern throughout the first

784
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: round of the draft live right here on Fox Sport's

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Speaker 1: Where were you, Bucket? You're not going to be there?

787
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: How come you're not there?

788
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 4: I Am going to be handling draft coverage for NFL

789
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: Network from our LA studios. Those who are on the app,

790
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 4: they have NFL Plus Fast Channel. Those things. I'll be

791
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 4: doing the coverage for that. But I'll be in LA

792
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 4: not in Green Bay.

793
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: I'll be watching you. Okay, now let's do it a

794
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: little bit. Ask Bucky right now, your pick Page Beckers

795
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: or Caitlin Clark. Which one is yours?

796
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 4: Ooh, that's a tough one. I still will go Kayln

797
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 4: Clark over Page Beckers. But I will say this, Page

798
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: Beckers is the real deal. She was the real deal

799
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 4: coming out. She's bounced back from the University of an

800
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 4: acl to continue to be that girl. But Kaitlin Clark

801
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 4: was so dynamic, so special at IOWA and even our

802
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 4: first year in the WNBA.

803
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna rock with double C.

804
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna stick with women's basketball here because

805
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 2: I've seen South Carolina women's basketball coach Doing Stanley drop

806
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 2: an F bomb during the game. I want your thoughts

807
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: on coaches, be that men or women, at least in

808
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: a college game, using profanity.

809
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 3: It happens.

810
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: I try not to use spicy language when it comes

811
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 4: to coaching people, but I don't really use it a

812
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: lot in my personal life. Look, it happens, and I

813
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 4: think sometimes in coaching, like your frustration can make it

814
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 4: where that's the only way that you can communicate. I

815
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 4: just think you have to just be careful how you

816
00:38:55,320 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 4: directed at players. But I'm not opposed to a coach

817
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 4: using bad language.

818
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes it just happens.

819
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: Did the coaching staff for the North Carolina used profanity

820
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: during practicing times?

821
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 4: Coach coach realn was not I believe in that he'd

822
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: believing curse and he didn't believe.

823
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: It even yelling at players.

824
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: So I kind of grew up in that environment, and

825
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 4: that would be the environment that I would like to.

826
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: Try and recreate when I'm around young people.

827
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: But look, sometimes it happens. I'm not saying that that

828
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 4: weighs the right way. Sometimes people need a harder coaching

829
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 4: environment to succeed.

830
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Speaker 2: Okay, this year's final four nc Double A men had

831
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: all number ones, no so close Cinderella teams. Is this

832
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: the future right now of NCAA basketball.

833
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: Yes, Unfortunately it's the Yes.

834
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 4: March madness won't be madness anymore because what has happened

835
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 4: within the top levels.

836
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: They're even the mid majors in there kind of like.

837
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 4: Feeder programs for the bigs, and so you're not going

838
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 4: to see the big programs that don't have the ammunition

839
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: to fend off the little guys. I think maybe an

840
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 4: occasional upset in the first round, but from here on out,

841
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: it's always going to be the top seas in men

842
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: and women because that's what turn inspired this year.

843
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't have a problem with that. Really

844
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: was great, Really was or He's Bucky Brooks and Andy

845
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: Furman and the Superpowers according to Bucky Brooks and so

846
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Speaker 2: much more wear right here.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday coming up next.

848
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Speaker 2: You know, we're talking the same league as Superman and Batman.

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Speaker 2: That's all coming up next. Good morning, everybody. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports.

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Speaker 3: Ready.

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Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman and were broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: tire buying should be here. He is Bucky Brooks. He

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Speaker 2: want to see him on TV. They'll be doing the

859
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: draft next week. I can't wait. You got special outfit

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00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 2: the way have to wear special outfits at tuxedo or

861
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: something and that.

862
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no no, no, I'm not getting drafted,

863
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 4: so I'm just I'm just talking about the players who

864
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 4: are getting drafted. So it won't require any special outfits.

865
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 4: We're just suited and booted. Keep this kind of simple,

866
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: but it should be fun.

867
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Speaker 2: You know, I wondered for years during the NFL Draft,

868
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: where these guys, these athletes, these college athletes that are like,

869
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: couldn't have enough money to get a pizza pie. You know,

870
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: we'll get these clothing outfits for the draft. Now, I

871
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: understand the anil moneys coming in, but where in the

872
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: past did they get these guys coming out with suits?

873
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: I mean like may to order suits. I mean, how

874
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: do they get those with the clothing owners that they

875
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: would wear to the draft? Are unreal?

876
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: Really, I would say that.

877
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 4: So, so what normally happens, as you like back in

878
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: the day, So after the thing, you give it an agent,

879
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: your agent and all that stuff takes care of a

880
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: bunch of different stuff.

881
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: You may obtain a line of credit.

882
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 4: But what typically happens when it comes to the guys

883
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 4: getting for the draft. You have various clothiers who want

884
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 4: your business because it's a showcase for their products, and

885
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 4: there will be not where you have to pay for it.

886
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 4: But hey, if you do this, we will give you.

887
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: We'll give you a suit, will give you accessories that

888
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 4: you can rent for the night and all of that.

889
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 4: You just make sure you shout us out, you post

890
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 4: us on Instagram. You do all this other stuff so

891
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 4: we can get the attention and others will come to

892
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 4: us to get suits in gear because they've seen you

893
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 4: shine on the brightest stage.

894
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: That's how it would work. Sometimes these guys wouldn't pay

895
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: for all of this stuff that you see, and.

896
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 4: The jewelers would do it. Much like the Oscars or

897
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 4: the Grammys. When you see your favorite celebrities in outfice,

898
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 4: it's the same a lot of it's the same stuff.

899
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: I knew you'd have the answer. I mean, that's why

900
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: it is. I never put you on the spot because

901
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: you have the answer to everything. There you go. I

902
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: got my last comments here on the Masters because it's

903
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: really bugging me and I'm going to say it, and

904
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: that's the end of it. Close the door. It's an

905
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: elitist situation. It's not relatable to the general public. It's

906
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: very selective. And I think that golf to me as

907
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: a recreation out of sport That's all I have to

908
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: say in that if anybody doubts me or has a problem.

909
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm here. I'm here, I'm not hiding. I am here.

910
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: And Bucky you agreed to some extent that it is elitist.

911
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: Then the general public is the republic at large really

912
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: did not relate to the Masters or golf in general.

913
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: Sorry that they related to the game when Tiger was there,

914
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: Tiger brought a whole new audience to golf.

915
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: He's gone, and so is that audience.

916
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: Sorry. I want to see what the ratings for the

917
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: Masters will be this year on CBS. I don't think

918
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: they'll be as strong as they were when Tiger played.

919
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 4: No, they won't be. And now some of that is

920
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: just relatability. Some of that is as you talk about,

921
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 4: you call it elitists. I would say accessibility, because it

922
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 4: does cost money to buy the equipment and to for

923
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 4: the casual fan, for the kid, the aspiring kid, Like

924
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 4: it doesn't have you gotta have money to get the equipment.

925
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 4: It takes money to be able to go and play around.

926
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: Even though I will say this like there are a

927
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 4: lot of municipal courses, a lot of public courses that

928
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 4: are in these areas, you still have to have the

929
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 4: money to pay the fees to go participate and play.

930
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 4: And the final part of it is people are typically

931
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 4: inspired by people that look like them.

932
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 3: And when you're looking at the game and you look

933
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 3: at it on.

934
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 4: TV, do I see people that I can relate to,

935
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 4: people that look like me, that come from my background,

936
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 4: that can inspire me today take a chance and do

937
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 4: these things. Other sports are more relatable because there there

938
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 4: are more people that casuals can relate to, and so

939
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 4: that inspires them to go pick up back.

940
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 2: Do you agree with it? More people relate to John

941
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: Laurant than they do to Rory McElroy, even though as

942
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: a clown.

943
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: Do and there's there's no disrespect to Rory McElroy. But

944
00:44:59,160 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 3: I would say that.

945
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 4: There are too few people that can appeal to the

946
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 4: masses that would fall in love with Jah Morant than

947
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: those that then on the golf course. There's not a

948
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 4: Jamarant presence on the golf course right now, and it

949
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 4: requires more than one. They have to be multiple because

950
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: some of the people that like Jah Morant are fine,

951
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 4: but they may not like it.

952
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: Anthony Verwards and some of the people that like Anthony.

953
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 4: Edwards can't relate to Ja Morant or Trey Young or

954
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 4: any of these other things. But there's so many different

955
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 4: guys that you can get behind. Golf doesn't present that

956
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. And look, I would say golf suffers

957
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 4: from that. Baseball in a little way suffers from that

958
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 4: from not necessarily a race based thing, but from American players.

959
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: We grew up.

960
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 4: There were more American players, American black players. You don't

961
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 4: see that as much in baseball now, and so they

962
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 4: see Dominicans and Venezuelans and various Latinos.

963
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 6: It's still not and they can't speak English. Yeah, I mean,

964
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 6: he could be a superstar on baseball. He learned to

965
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 6: speak English season, but it's still broken English.

966
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: And you know a lot of people don't want to

967
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: relate to him because they quote say, he's not one

968
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: of us, right, I mean that's that, and maybe that

969
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 2: hurts baseball.

970
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

971
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 2: I haven't done a study, but yeah, what helps the

972
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: NBA is that you follow a kid playing basketball in

973
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: college and then he goes to the NBA, you'll see

974
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: how he'll do. You can't follow a kid in the

975
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 2: in the Dominican or you can't follow a kid in

976
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 2: college baseball. No one really follows college baseball. They really

977
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: don't maybe for the college World Series and that's basically it.

978
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: But but but you're right. I mean that's just the

979
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 2: way it is. I mean, look, I think this should

980
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: be what if there was trash talking and golf will

981
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 2: be big if Rory McIlroy started trash talking right now,

982
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: you know, with with the with the competition there, and

983
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 2: they'd be big. I mean, people like that against the

984
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: d Do Shiambo if he was talking against him like

985
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: he ain't gonna beat me.

986
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: People love that. That's what it's all about.

987
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 4: Me Like, yeah, some of that is true. And I

988
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 4: am one who loves rules and etiquette in those things.

989
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 4: But some people don't like that. And so the the

990
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 4: unwritten rules, the etiquette things that transferring golf and some

991
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 4: of the unwritten rules that show up in baseball. Yet,

992
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 4: like some of those things can impact it. But I

993
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 4: truly believe when it comes to golf, it is the

994
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 4: related ability of the casual fans. Can the casual fan

995
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 4: relate to the players that are on the leader board.

996
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 4: Is there someone that I can look at and say, oh,

997
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: he's kind of like me. I can get behind him.

998
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: I'm on that team. I can go do those things.

999
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 4: And golf also has to want to open up the

1000
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 4: floodgates and have a different fan base embrace it. Right now,

1001
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 4: evidently on the bottom line, it hasn't impacted it enough

1002
00:47:58,760 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 4: where they.

1003
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 3: Need to solicit more people, get.

1004
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 4: More eyeballs on it. But at some point you're going

1005
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 4: to need more people, like a more diverse fan base,

1006
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: for the game to continue to grow and grow at

1007
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 4: the rate that you needed to grow to keep up

1008
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 4: with football and some of the other sports.

1009
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: You go to an airport today and you see Rory

1010
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: McElroy looking to get his bags, and you see Steph

1011
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: Curry over there. Where's the crowd's going to go through?

1012
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: They wouldn't even know who Rory McElroy is. Maybe a handful,

1013
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: but I promise you, but I will tell you this.

1014
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: There won't be anybody of color going to Rory McElroy,

1015
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: but they wouldn't relate to him.

1016
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying it.

1017
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 4: And I want to say it, and I don't want

1018
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 4: I don't want to say like like of color because

1019
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 4: I don't want to make it like a colorless deal

1020
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 4: that like blacks can't relate to whites, and whites can't

1021
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: relate the blacks and.

1022
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: Looking sport, they don't.

1023
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and maybe perhaps in that sport, yes, but that's

1024
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 4: that's not like true because when you go to NBA games,

1025
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 4: you see white kids with black players jerseys, and black

1026
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 4: players can look up they will color.

1027
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1028
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 4: No, so I'm saying so and golf, you are right,

1029
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 4: there is something to that.

1030
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: But I think it's even bigger than like racial stuff.

1031
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 4: I think some of it is like a socioeconomic thing.

1032
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 3: When it comes to accessibility.

1033
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 4: It's one thing for me to watch the Masters over

1034
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 4: the course of the weekend. It's another thing to then

1035
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 4: take that and be inspired and say, hey, I want

1036
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 4: to go to the course on Monday. Mammy, can you

1037
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 4: drop me off at the course?

1038
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: Well? What does that require? Hey, it's going to take

1039
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: you thirty five dollars to play around? Do you have

1040
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: the equipment?

1041
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 4: Oh, let's go to Dix and see if we can

1042
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 4: find you some starter clubs. Like it's different, whereas in

1043
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 4: some of those other sports, all I need to do

1044
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 4: is be able to go to Dicks and get a basketball. Okay,

1045
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: basketball may cost me twenty dollars, But to say one time, investment,

1046
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 4: parks are everywhere. It's all of that other stuff that

1047
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 4: we'll do it and we can talk about other sports,

1048
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 4: because soccer should be bigger in our country than it is,

1049
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 4: but accessibility prevents it from growing. And so if it

1050
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 4: doesn't grow where I can play it, I'm definitely not

1051
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 4: going to watch it with this passion and fervor. That's

1052
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 4: where it kind of you lose the fandom because you've

1053
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 4: got to be able to participate to want to follow it.

1054
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: And you're right, because there are certain sports that all

1055
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 2: of a sudden, when they start, they mushroom, they go crazy,

1056
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: and one of those sports right now is flag football.

1057
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: I mean colleges across the country having female flag football

1058
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: teams all over the place is catching on like wildfire,

1059
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 2: and its being backed by the NFL. I think flag

1060
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: football could be the next big thing. Could be leagues

1061
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 2: in flag football.

1062
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: It is going to be the next big thing.

1063
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 4: I think coming out of the owners meetings, they talked

1064
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 4: about finding multiple people that are willing to invest in

1065
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 4: pro flag leagues. I would say this first firsthand. I've

1066
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 4: watched it in my own my daughter. So my daughter

1067
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 4: played flag football for the first time. She's a high

1068
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 4: school senior. She played at her school for the first

1069
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 4: time and she loved it. In California, it's been a

1070
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 4: sanctioned high school sport for two years and they had

1071
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 4: state championships this year. Her school was good, she participated,

1072
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: She fell in love with the sport. It allowed her

1073
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 4: she played like linebacker, dB, stuff like that, but it

1074
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 4: allowed her to take things that she played another sports,

1075
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 4: soccer and track, and take those skills and apply them

1076
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 4: in the game. And what happened to me was eye

1077
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 4: opening because after she played, she then said, Hey, I

1078
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 4: need to find an NFL team to follow. So then

1079
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens became her team and every Sunday I

1080
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 4: would get textaus I'm with the Jags. I would get

1081
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 4: text like, oh, I'm watching the game, Lamar Jackson, did X,

1082
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 4: Y and Z.

1083
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 3: So what the NFL has done is they figured that

1084
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: it's an.

1085
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 4: Entry way to create a bigger and more expansive fan

1086
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 4: base if we support this, put girls in the game early,

1087
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 4: tell them like, hey, this is great. We're going to

1088
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 4: do so many things to have you have an opportunity.

1089
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 4: Because all ball is football and flag tackle, it doesn't matter.

1090
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 4: They've been able to expand their fandom because now girls

1091
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 4: participate in it.

1092
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 3: So what do they want to do on the weekends.

1093
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 3: They want to watch it?

1094
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: Why because the watching it it inspires them to go

1095
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 4: and do more stuff. It's a cycle. And because they

1096
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 4: open it up and they I would say that you

1097
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 4: can say a lot of things about the NFL. They're

1098
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 4: marketing geniuses. They understand how to expand their brand, and

1099
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 4: going to flag has only expanded the brand for them

1100
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 4: because now you have girls and boys watching it, and

1101
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 4: they're going to continue to follow teams and buy merchandise

1102
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 4: and all that other stuff.

1103
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: You know you talk about your daughter playing in high school.

1104
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: I mean on the East Coast. Now they've got colleges

1105
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: that have a division three leagues, and three schools in

1106
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: New York City have flag football. Saint Joseph University in Brooklyn,

1107
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 2: Long Island University in Brooklyn, and I think Wagner College

1108
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: on Staten Island they have flag football. It's catching on.

1109
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: It's big, it's big.

1110
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's big. And I'll say this at the collegiate level.

1111
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 4: In Aii, schools have offered women's scholarships to play. I

1112
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 4: just looked up and Winston Salem State won the Flag

1113
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 4: CIBA Championship. Their HBCU they won Flag Football Championship. Now

1114
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 4: my daughter's going to the University of Texas in the fall,

1115
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 4: and one of the things.

1116
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: She's like, I got to figure out how to continue

1117
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 3: to play.

1118
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 4: I want to continue to play, whether that's club, whether

1119
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 4: that's whatever.

1120
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 3: I want to play.

1121
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 4: And so everything that the league has intended when they

1122
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 4: really stepped in and invested in the game at the

1123
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 4: lower level, I'm seeing it happen in my own house

1124
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: because it's created a passion. That passion turns into fandom.

1125
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 4: That fandom turns into a lifetime of supporting the sport

1126
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 4: that the sport.

1127
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 3: Won't support it, So it all works together.

1128
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: So golf and those other sports have to make a

1129
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 4: similar commitment to increase their fandom and passion to allow

1130
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 4: people to really want to follow them and check it out.

1131
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: Well, Sid, I'm speaking of the college A couple of

1132
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: bitch and peaches I want to pick up and share

1133
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 2: with you right now. But the NTAA Championship game last Monday,

1134
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: I still think the Cougars Andvan Sampson they were the

1135
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: better team. How they blew the lead the end, and

1136
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: also also there was a no call goaltending against Florida

1137
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: in the finals against Houston Monday night. I don't know

1138
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 2: what happened. And Bill Rafferty is usually the guy who

1139
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: would say something about it. No one said anything. No

1140
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: one brought that up. That was a goaltending call. And

1141
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: I know you remember that, So that bugs me. It

1142
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: really buzzs.

1143
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: I was pulling for Tho Googles badly.

1144
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was pulling for him, and I was pulling

1145
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 4: for him for a different way. I was pulling for

1146
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 4: him as a coach. I love what Kevin Sampson Reps

1147
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 4: represents when it comes to building culture and kind of

1148
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 4: taking a line in the sand when it comes to

1149
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 4: the type of players that they are bringing in, the

1150
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 4: guys who have to buy into the team over their

1151
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 4: individual and we're seeing the college landscape is changing. We've

1152
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 4: seen the situation in Tennessee, which I'm sure we will

1153
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 4: talk about later with the quarterback certainly putting his own

1154
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 4: interests over that of the team.

1155
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: And we're seeing that. And so I was pulling for Houston.

1156
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 3: Hard won.

1157
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 4: They knocked off Duke in the way in which they

1158
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 4: knocked off Duke, Cooper Flagg the best player in the country,

1159
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 4: hands down. They were able to knock it off because

1160
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 4: their team concept eventually overwhelmed.

1161
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: Dude can wore them down at the end.

1162
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 4: Well, the thing about Houston and why they were kicked

1163
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 4: themselves is the last four possessions that they had in

1164
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 4: the game in the final ninety seconds, they turned the

1165
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: ball on every possession. There was an opportunity for them

1166
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 4: to take that lead up to five, and they turned

1167
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 4: it over. And then they continue to turn it over.

1168
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 4: So their execution or lack thereof, is what cost him.

1169
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 4: And that's one of the things that man, when you

1170
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 4: were a coach and you lose, and you lose the

1171
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 4: way in which they lost, the faulty execution, not being

1172
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 4: able to get the shot up, they didn't get shots up,

1173
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 4: make or miss.

1174
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, for a three at the end, I mean, really

1175
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: go and sign, but then you know that's neither here

1176
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: nor there right now. But still I was shocked. They

1177
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: went for a three at the end and didn't even

1178
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 2: get the shot off.

1179
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 4: Didn't get a shot off, turned it over multiple times.

1180
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 4: And it's the little things like they didn't set the

1181
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 4: screen properly where you should have had an open shot.

1182
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 4: So then the guy who came to contests, wouldn't discourage

1183
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 4: the shot from being attempted.

1184
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 3: All of those things, just the little things.

1185
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 4: And we all know this, anyone who's played, anyone who's coached,

1186
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 4: do you understand like it always comes down to the

1187
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 4: little things. If you take care of the small things,

1188
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 4: all things would work out in your favor. And they

1189
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 4: just didn't do it. So it's heartbreaking for them, But

1190
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 4: the hats off to Florida for coming back. They came

1191
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 4: back multiple times throughout the tournament, the toughness they displayed.

1192
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 4: Look the kid Clayton just being able to step his

1193
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 4: game up. And what we'll see is more of that.

1194
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 3: At that level.

1195
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 4: A guy who goes to Island there for a couple

1196
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 4: of years, then makes his way up to the big

1197
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 4: leagues in Florida leads them to a national title.

1198
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 3: We're gonna see more of that.

1199
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 4: And so the little guys are going to lose out

1200
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 4: for now because the little guys are gonna become glorified

1201
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 4: junior colleges where hey man, that's great that you played

1202
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 4: there for two years, but as soon as you play

1203
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 4: your two years and establish yourself.

1204
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: The big schools are going to get you out the poor.

1205
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 3: That's just how it is.

1206
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 4: Until the system changes, we're gonna see more that it's

1207
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 4: gonna just be the heavy weights that we see time

1208
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 4: and time again participating in the championship browns of these tournaments,

1209
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 4: whether it's the College Football Playoff.

1210
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 3: Or the n C Douable A March maintains that's what

1211
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 3: we're gonna see.

1212
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 2: Am I mistaken though, that Todd Golden, the Florida coach

1213
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: and the cal Florida gate has won at all. Wasn't

1214
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: he a little bit of a hot water for its

1215
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 2: kind of stalking girls on campus?

1216
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: Wasn't that?

1217
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1218
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 4: That's I mean, there were some allegations right that were

1219
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 4: that were that were against him when it came to

1220
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 4: harassment and those things. And even though I think the

1221
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 4: last time I rich those things were not true or

1222
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 4: what they did an investigation that went nowhere. Yeah, it

1223
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 4: was a bit of a cloud that hung around him,

1224
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 4: and so you couldn't fully celebrate him and his mastery

1225
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 4: on the court because look, they had to deal with

1226
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 4: it ordeal the entire season. I'll say this, like between

1227
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 4: the lines, he's really great. He's a great coach. Like

1228
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 4: how they played, what they were able to do they

1229
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 4: went from me and bounced in the first round in

1230
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 4: the title. Hats off to him for being able to

1231
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 4: uplift that program. But yeah, like the off field stuff

1232
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 4: put a cloud over the championship and really prevented us

1233
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 4: from fully celebrating him as a coach.

1234
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 3: There we go.

1235
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: Now you did mention something over here with the you

1236
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: know kind of I ooner like the minor leagues. With

1237
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: this portal action going on in college basketball right now?

1238
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: Is it all about the money? I mean, in other words,

1239
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: if I'm a player X at a school like Iona

1240
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 2: and I'm looking to get out, does a kid go

1241
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: because of the school that pays him the most?

1242
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 3: Is that?

1243
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: And how does it work? I mean an agent calls up, Well,

1244
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: now they're so called general managers at the school. They

1245
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: call the player and say, look, we're going to offer

1246
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: you this amount you'll come play for us. Is that

1247
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: how it works? Right now?

1248
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 3: Every kid has an agent. Now agents are shrewd and smart.

1249
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 4: They went from being able to represent players at the

1250
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 4: NFL NBA level to now let me represent them at

1251
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 4: a collegiate level for their NIL and by representing them

1252
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 4: with their NRAL that now will eventually part layed to me,

1253
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 4: being able to represent them fully as players when they

1254
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 4: get to the point where they able to go to

1255
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 4: the pros. What happens the agents or the middle people.

1256
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 4: Third party people are always contacting schools and sniffing around

1257
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 4: and kind of seeing where the opportunities are. And general

1258
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 4: managers certainly are aware of who's sniffing around and who's

1259
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 4: doing what, and they can engage in those discussions to

1260
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 4: set the table for when people want to make moves.

1261
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 4: This is something that has required all teams to get

1262
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 4: a general manager. Because you're head coach, you can't imagine

1263
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 4: Toime Iszo fielding phone calls in the middle of Elite

1264
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,959
Speaker 4: eight trying to figure out, like, hey, how to play

1265
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 4: my top player while getting ready to participate for a game.

1266
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 3: That's why general managers are in needed.

1267
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 4: But I'll say this, Nick Saban was talking about football

1268
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 4: when he said this, and some of it came from

1269
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 4: the fact that a couple of years ago his team

1270
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 4: was getting ready.

1271
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: To play Michigan and.

1272
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 4: Was that an It wasn't a national title game, it

1273
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 4: was the Final four, and the week of leading into it,

1274
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 4: rumors said that some people that come into his office

1275
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 4: with some money demands while they're getting ready to play

1276
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 4: the semi finals.

1277
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 3: And so as a coach, you're like, what are we

1278
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 3: talking about here?

1279
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 4: We are we have the opportunity to win the biggest

1280
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 4: thing that you can win as a team, and I

1281
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 4: have players that I'm having to deal with when it

1282
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 4: comes to money and opportunities and those things in the

1283
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 4: middle of the playoffs.

1284
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1285
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 4: And we're seeing more people like that, And so I

1286
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 4: understand coaches frustration, even though I would say that they

1287
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 4: are speaking out both sides of their mouth. They don't

1288
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 4: want the players to deal with it, but yet they're

1289
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 4: also working on deals for themselves. The entire system, Yeah,

1290
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 4: the entire system is whack when it comes to that,

1291
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 4: and there needs to be some regulation on all of that,

1292
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 4: coaches and players. Because you had the guy at West

1293
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 4: Virginia who I mean soon they whind him on about

1294
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 4: not getting the tournament and it might not have even

1295
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 4: been twenty four hours. He's a head coach at Indiana

1296
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 4: and his son who didn't play, who got hurt early

1297
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 4: but didn't play for the Mountaineers really this season as

1298
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 4: a medical so he can go play with him in Indiana. Look,

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Speaker 2: right now we are live from the Tairaq dot com studios. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's get into something that you did on NFL dot com,

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Speaker 2: which I love your list. You talk about superpowers all right?

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Speaker 2: What exactly are you talking about? Superpowers? You guys?

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Speaker 1: Could they fly?

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Speaker 2: I mean, have you done any of this? What is

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Speaker 2: this superpowers all about? I'm interested because the draft is

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Speaker 2: next week.

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Speaker 4: In the scouting we're one of the things that you

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Speaker 4: look for when you're looking at all prospects is what

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Speaker 4: is the elite trade that this player presents that's going

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Speaker 4: to allow them to have a ton.

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Speaker 3: Of success in the league.

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Speaker 4: And the blue chip players, the best of the best,

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Speaker 4: may have multiple superpowers. So when we think about like

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Speaker 4: our favorite superheroes, they always have something that distinguishes themn

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Speaker 4: and syts them apart from others. And when I'm looking

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Speaker 4: at guys, the first thing I'm looking for at tape

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Speaker 4: is like, man, what do they do better than anybody else? Like,

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Speaker 4: what is the one thing that you can do better

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Speaker 4: than anybody else? That one thing can separate you from

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Speaker 4: others and it gives you an opportunity to be dominant.

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Speaker 3: I learned a long time in going.

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Speaker 4: To the league the league is really not about the

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Speaker 4: best players who have the most complete set of skills,

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Speaker 4: but it's the players who have an elite superpower that coaches.

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Speaker 3: Can build around and allow them to be great.

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Speaker 4: And so the article kind of highlights some of the

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Speaker 4: things that I've seen and looking at the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: five class and some of the players that we love

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Speaker 4: and celebrate.

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Speaker 2: All Right, so now to me the best athlete in

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Speaker 2: the draft next week, The best player in football college

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Speaker 2: wise is Travis Hunter. Agreed, if I'm a personnel die

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Speaker 2: and I have the first pick. I'm picking this guy.

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Speaker 2: You know you talk about Kim Kimwood Miller, Kim Ward

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Speaker 2: to Kim Wharf Miami, Oh, Kim Wharf right, everybody saying

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Speaker 2: he's the number one guy. Okay to me, Travis Hunt

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Speaker 2: is the number one guy, best player available.

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Speaker 1: I he should pick him. But what is his superpower?

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Speaker 3: I would say his superpower is just his ball skills.

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Speaker 3: I mean he is an elite ball catcher.

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Speaker 4: You just don't find guys who and when we think

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Speaker 4: about balls, I want you to understand, ball skills are

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Speaker 4: not just how will they catch the ball? Is their

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Speaker 4: ability to track the ball, the ability to find the ball,

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Speaker 4: the ability to catch the ball in.

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Speaker 3: A variety different ways utilizing their hands.

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Speaker 4: And so, whether that's a ball that is relatively easy

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Speaker 4: to catch, but you see him snatch it and pluck

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Speaker 4: it without issue, if it's him in a crowd being

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Speaker 4: able to elevate over top of multiple defenders to.

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Speaker 3: Pull it down.

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Speaker 4: It's him being able to take a ball that is

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Speaker 4: off target but make it an easy reception because he

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Speaker 4: can contort his body or display some acrobatics. That's what

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Speaker 4: he has and he has it on each side of

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Speaker 4: the ball where he displays. As a wide receiver, he

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Speaker 4: shows it all the time. But even as a dB,

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Speaker 4: his instincts, awareness and ability to catch the ball at

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Speaker 4: various locations. Man, his ball skills are not I mean,

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Speaker 4: they're out of worldly. We can talk about elite, but

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Speaker 4: it's even a word beyond elite.

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not big on my drafts. Do you do

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Speaker 1: a lot of mock drafts?

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Speaker 4: I do, But I think what gets lost in mock

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Speaker 4: drafts of this mock drafts are what you think others

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Speaker 4: are going to do, not what you would do. What

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Speaker 4: others are doing going to do a list of big

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Speaker 4: board top fives, this is how I see them, And

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Speaker 4: if you ask me who's the best, I always say,

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Speaker 4: look at my top fives, don't look at my mock drafts.

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Speaker 4: My mock drafts. I'm guessing what a team is going

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Speaker 4: to do based on what I know about the team,

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Speaker 4: how they get down, coaches and those things. Yeah, if

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Speaker 4: it's about list and me telling you who I think

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Speaker 4: are the best ones, that's what.

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Speaker 3: My list is. I'm gonna tell you from top to pot.

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Speaker 2: I like the list pedal I'm looking at a mock

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Speaker 2: draft right now. I just ripped this out. I think

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Speaker 2: it's from USA today, and they have obviously it's Tennessee, Cleveland,

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Speaker 2: the Giants, and Patriots. They have the Patriots picking four,

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Speaker 2: picking Travis Hunter. Why he goes out to fourth, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I understand that the Patriots need help in

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Speaker 2: both areas, which is cornerback and of course they need

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Speaker 2: help as reach, so he wants to play both. So

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Speaker 2: I guess that's a perfect fit for the Patriots. But

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Speaker 2: why would he fall? I mean, I'm saying full falled down.

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Speaker 2: The four Giants wild pick three. They need a quarterback

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Speaker 2: and they got your door standers going there. Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 2: they're going for the edge. They're going for Abdual Carter,

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Speaker 2: Penn State guys. Looky, maybe now with Flackall, maybe they

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Speaker 2: could afford to go with that edge guy.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, I don't know. And Titans going with cam Ward.

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Speaker 4: Well, it depends. So there are a few different things

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Speaker 4: when we look about it. First, we have to separate

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Speaker 4: need from the players that are available. If you ask me,

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Speaker 4: when it comes down to the players that are available,

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Speaker 4: how many guys.

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Speaker 3: Are elite players?

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Speaker 4: Because the top five should be reserved for guys that

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Speaker 4: are elite players, the best of the best, like their

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01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 4: skills would put them at the top of the board

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Speaker 4: in any draft. To me, they're only a handful of

1444
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Speaker 4: guys that I would put in that category. Abdu Carter

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Speaker 4: is one, Travis Hunter is another. I would say that

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Speaker 4: askting genty would qualify Tod Warren, the tie end from

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Speaker 4: Penn State, and maybe.

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01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 3: Jalen Walker from Georgia.

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Speaker 4: Those are the guys that are the elite prospects in

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01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 4: my mind.

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Speaker 3: The other guys are really good, really good.

1452
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 4: But if I'm saying that those guys are the A pluses,

1453
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 4: the guys that come beneath them are a's and a minuses.

1454
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Speaker 3: And there is a difference.

1455
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 4: And so that's why when you have a Travis Hunter,

1456
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 4: teams have to debate, do I want to really really

1457
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 4: elite prospect who may be in a position that is

1458
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 4: not a market position or a position of need, or

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Speaker 4: would I'd rather have the quarterback because I need a quarterback.

1460
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Speaker 4: And even though I don't believe that he's going to

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Speaker 4: be elite or a gold jacket guy, he's better than

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Speaker 4: what we have, so we can take him and put

1463
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 4: him in on the chief and those things.

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Speaker 3: You have to make those kinds of decisions.

1465
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 4: Is it business or is it to the ideal, Because

1466
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 4: if it's to the ideal, then you're always gonna come

1467
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Speaker 4: away better because you're going to take great players and

1468
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 4: have a team for the great players, and then you

1469
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 4: as a coach.

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Speaker 3: Have to figure out how to utilize those great players.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you got the superpowers right here, and you have

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Speaker 2: obviously Travis Hunt the number one, but you did have

1473
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 2: Ashton Genty, the running back from Boise State, number two.

1474
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: A couple of questions right here. If he's that great,

1475
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Speaker 2: if he's such a super competition guy, and he has

1476
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 2: all these superpowers, why then on this mock dreff that

1477
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at, they have the Dallas Cowboys picking him

1478
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 2: at twelve because they said, well, the Cowboys must have

1479
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: addressed a dwinning back position, so they get Genty. He

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01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 2: shouldn't last that long. He should be gone before then.

1481
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:35,520
Speaker 2: If he's that good, right.

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Speaker 3: He shouldn't last that long. But here's where we've got.

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Speaker 4: We've gone awry because we've gotten cute in the National

1484
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 4: Football League because we've tried to out smart everybody. We

1485
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 4: have these things where we talk about positional value, right,

1486
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 4: there's certain positions on the field that matter more than

1487
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 4: other positions. Those premium positions, as we call them, are

1488
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 4: things that are centered around the passing game because it's

1489
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:00,799
Speaker 4: a pass league.

1490
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 3: So on offense, that is.

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01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 4: Your quarterback, your left tackle because that used to be

1492
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 4: your best protector blindside, and then it is I would

1493
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 4: say a playmaker, so that playmaker could spawn anywhere in

1494
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 4: the backfield, so quarterback tied in running back, someone that's

1495
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,440
Speaker 4: a playmaker that can put points on the board. On defense,

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01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 4: your premium positions are your defensive ends. Your premium positions

1497
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 4: are your cornerbacks, and then one interior pass rusher like

1498
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 4: d lineman, detackle or whatever.

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Speaker 3: So in the draft, typically in the.

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Speaker 4: First round, in the early rounds, you want to draft

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01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 4: a blue chip player at a premium position because if

1502
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 4: I told you these are the market positions on the team,

1503
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 4: you want an elite player in the market positions because

1504
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 4: it gives your team an opportunity to be elite because

1505
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 4: they got the best of the best, and to think

1506
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 4: in the positions that impact the game the most. Where

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01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 4: it goes awry is when you try to put a

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01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 4: good player can at a great position that's reserved for

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01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 4: great players because he plays at a marquee position, as

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01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 4: opposed to taking a great player who may be at

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01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 4: a non marquee position. Which is why in a mock

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01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 4: draft you can see Aston genty at twelve, because there

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Speaker 4: are people out here that don't.

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01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,879
Speaker 3: Value the running back as a marquee position.

1515
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: Wow, that's Will said, You know what.

1516
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 2: I would also think that maybe I watched him play

1517
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 2: several times on TV, But is there a question because

1518
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 2: of the conference he played in, not playing a top

1519
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:30,520
Speaker 2: notch competition.

1520
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 4: I mean, there is definitely some of that that is

1521
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 4: going on. But what if I told you that la

1522
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 4: Danian Thomason didn't play in a marquee conference, was taken

1523
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 4: number five and became a Hall of famer, Marcia Fault

1524
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 4: didn't play in a marquee conference, was taken early in

1525
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,839
Speaker 4: the draft and became a Hall of Famer.

1526
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,759
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean there are a ton.

1527
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 4: Of exact amples of guys that can run the ball

1528
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 4: that did not come out of like elite programs in

1529
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 4: elite conferences that have been able to shine. Asking gent

1530
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 4: last year at twenty six hundred yards, he was only man.

1531
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 3: I think he was only twenty.

1532
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 4: Five yards short of breaking Barry Sanders record for most

1533
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 4: yards in the season, like most rushing yards in the season.

1534
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 4: He had I think nineteen games with twenty plus carries,

1535
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 4: nine games with thirty plus carries. So he's shown that

1536
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 4: he has a competitive stamina to be the workhorse. He

1537
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 4: is super explosive, like dynamic, great balance, body control, can

1538
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 4: run with power, can finish with the violence that.

1539
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 3: You love to see, but also has the home run

1540
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 3: a building.

1541
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 4: I mean, there are not many things that he can do,

1542
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 4: and so there are people have talked about it, and

1543
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 4: I'll say this, the comparisons made between Ladania and Thompson

1544
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 4: on the high side and Josh Jacobs on a low

1545
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 4: side meaning ceiling is Latenian Thompson.

1546
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 3: Floor is Josh Jacobs.

1547
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 4: If I tell you that we're talking about either a

1548
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame player or at a minimum in an

1549
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 4: NFL rushing champion, why wouldn't you sign up to get

1550
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 4: that player?

1551
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 3: That's how I view asked in genty.

1552
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 2: You know, I look at Astra denty and look at

1553
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 2: his stats. He's five to eight, two eleven. He's got

1554
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 2: a low center of gravity, which I think is great

1555
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 2: for a running back. He's built like a shot put

1556
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 2: he really is. I mean, and when you got those

1557
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 2: strong legs and that low center of gravity, I think

1558
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: that what makes him powerful. It really does. I mean,

1559
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 2: I don't think a running back should be over six

1560
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 2: foot tall. I think the shorter the better because you're

1561
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: like a barrel coming through that line.

1562
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 3: I mean, basically just what you're talking about. You talked

1563
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 3: about a mussed.

1564
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 4: Up, compact guy who has great balance. You talk about

1565
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 4: low center and gravity, great balance, great footwork, explosive burst

1566
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 4: size on him where he can run through contact in

1567
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 4: the hole and right now will knock on wood. The

1568
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 4: stamina to endure heavy workload, that's one of the things

1569
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 4: that I would say is most impressive. Some guys can

1570
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,799
Speaker 4: run that can have success, but it's a different animal

1571
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 4: to run it twenty five to thirty times.

1572
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 3: Andy, when you're.

1573
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 4: Touching the ball thirty times, like you know how tough

1574
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 4: you have to be mentally and physically to endure that

1575
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 4: kind of pounding over the course of the day. I mean,

1576
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 4: you're talking about running between the tackles, putting your pads

1577
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 4: on people, finishing runs off, run through the line, doing

1578
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 4: it over and over again, just to get ready for

1579
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 4: games and then in games to be able to take

1580
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 4: that to me.

1581
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 3: It's a testament to his toughness.

1582
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: Here we go. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman.

1583
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,040
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Speaker 2: be sure to tune it to Draft Night Live on Thursday,

1587
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 2: April of twenty fourth, eight pm Eastern throughout the first

1588
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 2: round of the draft. Inside of Jay Glazier, former Jets

1589
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 2: general manager Joe Douglas, college Football Hall of Famer LeVar Arrington,

1590
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 2: and Fox Sports lead college football reporter Jenny Taff. We'll

1591
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: have pit by pit predictions and reactions.

1592
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: To every first round pick.

1593
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 2: That's Thursday, April twenty fourth, apm Eastern, throughout the first

1594
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 2: round of the draft, live right here, Fox Berts. Ready,

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1596
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 2: this is unbelievable because it's time. It's either up or down,

1597
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 2: yay or nay. And it's freaking next all right, yay

1598
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 2: or nay? Coming right up right now. It's about eleven

1599
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 2: minutes before the top of the hour. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sun, They Fox Butts ready on life on the

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01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 2: ti iraq dot com studios.

1602
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Firma. Right now is time

1603
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 1: for yay or nay. Okay, let's rack those brains, gentlemen.

1604
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 5: These stories need an answer.

1605
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 3: I think we need a ruling on this.

1606
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: It's yay or nay? Patty?

1607
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:56,799
Speaker 2: Are you ready?

1608
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: Are you up? Are you ready?

1609
01:15:58,520 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 3: Oh?

1610
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 2: I'm ready walking ladies to cars? Okay, Really, geez, you

1611
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 2: got a job to do here.

1612
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 7: Well, you know what today is, guys, it is time

1613
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 7: to play on this day the yay and nays and

1614
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 7: I say, let's play. So continuing with the masters, talk here, guys,

1615
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 7: yay or nay?

1616
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: Baseball or golf?

1617
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeay or nay?

1618
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 1: Andy Furman, I take baseball.

1619
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 2: I take anything over golf, really and truly, I take

1620
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 2: my sanitation man picking up my garbage over golf, really

1621
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: to see how fast they could lift up the garbage cans.

1622
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 2: So I'm telling you right now, golf would put me

1623
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 2: to sleep. It's an old man's game. It's it's a

1624
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 2: it's elitist, and that's all I have to say about that.

1625
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 3: Wow, I would take I would take baseball over over golf.

1626
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 3: Just in terms of.

1627
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 4: The excitement level, there's nothing like playoff baseball. And so

1628
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 4: the month of October, the run for the opportunity to

1629
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 4: win the war seas to me it he sees anything

1630
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 4: that golf can present, So give me baseball.

1631
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 7: All right, we're gonna continue with this one because I

1632
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 7: got just I got another one for US Masters or

1633
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 7: the NFL Draft.

1634
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, your name.

1635
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 7: If it's not the NFL Draft, I'm being very mad,

1636
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 7: Bucky Brooks her Nay, that's precious.

1637
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 4: Look, the NFL draft outrates the NBA basketball playoffs, so

1638
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 4: I'm definitely gonna take that over golf. I mean, it's

1639
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 4: choice a phenomenon that I look, it doesn't even really

1640
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 4: make sense. It just shows you how much people are

1641
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 4: willing to love the game that they would rather see

1642
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 4: names picked off the board and rewatch highlights from a

1643
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 4: previous season than watch an NBA game that's taking place.

1644
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 2: I'll go with step further. I'd rather go to the

1645
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 2: NFL draft than go to the Masters. How's that lit alone? Watching?

1646
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: So how do you like that? Stick down in your.

1647
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 2: Pipe and smoke it. Yeah?

1648
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 7: Well, all right, final one of this Masters either or

1649
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 7: Masters or the Final four yeay or nay?

1650
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 2: And what do you think? What do you think? Final

1651
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 2: for even funnel for women. I'm not gonna say either

1652
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 2: final four women or men.

1653
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't care. Final four Division two.

1654
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:16,919
Speaker 4: I'll go, Man, you are really poop pulling the Masters

1655
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 4: right now.

1656
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna go.

1657
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna join you because I'm gonna go Final four

1658
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 4: over the Masters. I can't say that I've watched. I

1659
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 4: have watched some highlights. I've watched, man, maybe five minutes

1660
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 4: of the Masters yesterday.

1661
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 3: I can't imagine watching.

1662
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 4: A lot of it outside of the last three holes today.

1663
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 4: So yeah, but I watched the final four, and I

1664
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 4: was riveted by what took place in the final four.

1665
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 7: All right, that was all right, that's all pretty good.

1666
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: Masters are a wizinator.

1667
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm kidding.

1668
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. O. Happy birthday. Your wator's gonna be in

1669
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: the mail.

1670
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 7: I just want to throw that in there, just throw

1671
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 7: you guys off. But no, that was not a real one.

1672
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 7: This this one's real nice.

1673
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: So your age you may be needed winator. I might

1674
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: need one at this point now.

1675
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 7: So so guys, the w NBH draft ticket prices will

1676
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 7: increase and it'll be at the shed at Houston Yard

1677
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 7: Houston Hudson Yards in New York City. It's ninety nine

1678
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 7: dollars on Ticketmaster. Last year tickets were forty nine to

1679
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 7: ninety nine. Yay or nay, Bucky Brooks, yay.

1680
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 3: That's good man, that's good. That's good for them.

1681
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 4: That means there's more interest in the league, despite all

1682
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 4: of the controversy that is surrounded the league over the

1683
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 4: last year or so. It does mean that there's an

1684
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 4: uptick and amount of interest.

1685
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 3: And so I'm good. I'm good on that. That's great.

1686
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 2: Oh screw that day. Anytime prices go up, it's a nay. Really,

1687
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 2: prices for eggs gone up. I got a waffle house

1688
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 2: so breakfast and they choked me fifty cents more up

1689
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 2: because the exit gone up.

1690
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean, really, come on.

1691
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 3: Nay, Well I'm looking. I'm I've learned. So I didn't

1692
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 3: even know there's a waffle house up in that area.

1693
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 3: Like that's just good to know. Hell, yeah, good, that's good.

1694
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: You'll visit me. I'll take you to waffle house.

1695
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, all that nang. It's like we have a

1696
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 3: horse over here.

1697
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 2: Oh man.

1698
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 7: But so next one we got MLS was tinkering with

1699
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 7: the idea of moving their season from winter to fall

1700
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 7: to fall to spring.

1701
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: Yay or nay. Andy.

1702
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: You know what, I don't care where they moved. The

1703
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 2: season is too long. It's ridiculous. I mean, come on,

1704
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 2: do you start in February, end of October? It's nuts.

1705
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 2: Start in May, that's what you do. Sorry, spring is.

1706
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,719
Speaker 3: Better for them, don't competigst NFL.

1707
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 2: All right, take a look what Nil did. Unbelievable. That's

1708
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 2: coming right off. Good morning, This is the Power Hour

1709
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Ready these Bucket, Brooks and

1710
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: Andy firm and we're broadcasting live from the ti raq

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1715
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 1: I tire buying, Big buck.

1716
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 2: I can't believe we're rolling right down the Highway of sports.

1717
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 2: That's what we're doing. Our number three and I want

1718
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 2: to talk about this. We haven't mentioned this yet, but

1719
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 2: I think we got to mention it. My guy John Morant, Okay,

1720
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 2: I mean, look, he got in trouble again, faming an

1721
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 2: imaginary gun to celebrate three pointer is he's gone in

1722
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 2: a different, make believe, violent way to mark a long

1723
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 2: distance shot right now. He was fined seventy five grand

1724
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 2: for that for mimicking that long gun after a basket.

1725
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: But a Thursday night.

1726
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: In a game when they won one, they lost acts

1727
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 2: he won forty one one twenty to Minnesota. He did

1728
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: something else. He's gonna make believe. He was pulling a

1729
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 2: pin and tossing a grenade in that game.

1730
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: There you go.

1731
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 2: I mean, as long as he's gonna get attention doing this,

1732
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna keep he's gonna keep on doing it. Really,

1733
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 2: if you just ignore him, I think we'll stop. Maybe

1734
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, Who cares? Does anybody really care? Is a

1735
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: kid gonna go to a game and watch him this,

1736
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 2: do this and go on buy a grenade? I mean,

1737
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 2: come on, I think.

1738
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 4: For all of it what it is like, and we

1739
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 4: talked about it, and no matter how we try and.

1740
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 3: And parse out the words, athletes are role models.

1741
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 4: And what you're trying to do is you're trying to

1742
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 4: make sure that we talk about the brand. You try

1743
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 4: to make sure that the brand is littered with positive imagery,

1744
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 4: not negative imagery, So when John Morant shoots to three

1745
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 4: and pulls the gun out or pulls the pin on

1746
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 4: the grenade, its negative imagy that's now associated with your game.

1747
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 4: And what it does is and watching young people. They

1748
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 4: copy what they see on TV. And what the NBA

1749
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 4: was trying to do is trying to be responsible to

1750
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 4: prevent us from going to rec centers all over the

1751
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 4: country where you have six year olds hidding threes and

1752
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 4: pulling out fake ouzzies to mimic what it's taken. So

1753
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 4: that's what you're doing. So if you're Adam Silber, you're

1754
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 4: trying to think about the greater good.

1755
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 3: Right.

1756
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 4: I don't want little kids mimicking what Jah Moran is

1757
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 4: doing after he has threes. It is in poor taste,

1758
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,799
Speaker 4: it's not a great portrayal, and it really diminishes the brand.

1759
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 3: Now.

1760
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 4: I don't understand why Jah Morant does this. I don't

1761
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 4: understand why he likes these violet images or why after

1762
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 4: really dealing with a skin of four year and a

1763
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 4: half he puts himself right back in it. I don't know,

1764
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 4: but I know this, I know at some point we

1765
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 4: talked about talent and tolerance. At some point his talent

1766
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 4: doesn't equate to the tolerance and the grace that the

1767
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 4: league has shown him.

1768
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Thursday night, in that loss, he was five or

1769
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 2: thirteen for three point range, and he was covering as

1770
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,440
Speaker 2: he is after there's like a windmill hurl and the explosive,

1771
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:47,799
Speaker 2: the invisible explosive.

1772
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:48,759
Speaker 1: Here is my point.

1773
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 2: It's the job of a parent to monitor, not the NBA,

1774
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 2: what a kid's gonna do right, Number one, Number two,

1775
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 2: Adam Silver's got bigger problems than Jah Morant doing like

1776
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,759
Speaker 2: a fake grenade. You know, stop the three point goals.

1777
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 2: That's what they got to still do altogether and control

1778
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 2: that because the game is going down to cropper there

1779
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 2: really is. I've seen some films of games of yesteryear,

1780
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 2: when the Big O was playing, when Jerry West was playing.

1781
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 2: They got this thing on HBO now called what Celtics Pride.

1782
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 2: I think it's on Monday or Tuesday nights. I've been

1783
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 2: watching that. The way these guys played like a team,

1784
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 2: you don't see that anymore. Really. And they interviewed Bill Russell,

1785
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 2: the late Bill Russell, May he rest in peace. He said, basically,

1786
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 2: all we had was like seven basic plays. Sam Jones

1787
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:32,440
Speaker 2: was there, John Havlichik.

1788
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: It was great.

1789
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 2: Dennis Johnson, I'm watching this. You don't have that today.

1790
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 2: Maybe at times the Golden State Warriors play like that.

1791
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 2: Other than that, I watched the Brooklyn Nets play is disgusting.

1792
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 2: I'd rather go to a park and watch a game.

1793
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: I really would. The New York Knicks disgusting.

1794
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: It really is.

1795
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, one guy taking twenty five threes. It's ridiculous. Really,

1796
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 2: there's no bonus for that. Play the game of basketball

1797
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 2: the way it should be played. And John Morett, you

1798
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 2: want to do an explosive, go ahead and do it.

1799
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 2: I will say this, If you're dumb enough to give

1800
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 2: up seventy five grand for a stupid fine like that,

1801
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 2: that that's on you. Because to me, if you will

1802
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 2: to be a hero, I'll tell you what you do.

1803
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 2: You take that seventy five thousand dollars, you write a

1804
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 2: check and you feed the homeless in the city of Memphis.

1805
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 2: That's what you do with the seventy five thousand. You

1806
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 2: don't give it to the NBA, these homeless people who

1807
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 2: sleeping in the street Memphis, Tennessee.

1808
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 1: Give them the money.

1809
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what you have is you have.

1810
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 4: A talented but troubled player, a player who's been enabled.

1811
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 3: You talked about parenting.

1812
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 4: His dad is on the sideline while he's doing those gestures,

1813
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 4: and it's never changed. And it is really unfortunate that

1814
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,600
Speaker 4: a player like him, who had an opportunity to be

1815
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 4: the face of the league, prevents himself from me in

1816
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 4: the face on his own doing like just because he

1817
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 4: is fascinated by this life that he should not be

1818
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 4: leading or that he's not involved in. He has really

1819
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 4: hurt the brand, take money out of his pockets, and

1820
01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:59,719
Speaker 4: really damaged the league.

1821
01:25:59,520 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 3: In a way.

1822
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 4: And we can talk about like ignoring him in the

1823
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 4: gestures or whatever, but I understand why Adam Silver and

1824
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 4: those guys are trying to do it. If David Stern

1825
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 4: was a commissioner now, he would crush all of that

1826
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 4: silliness like he would crush it, just like he did

1827
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 4: with the dress code and all that other stuff, because

1828
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 4: he knows how that impacts the bottom line. And sometimes

1829
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 4: players don't recognize that sports are business, but man, we're

1830
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 4: talking about a billion dollar business that John Morant is

1831
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 4: basically in essence peeing on.

1832
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 3: That's what he's.

1833
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 4: Doing when he doesn't listen to what the commissioner and

1834
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 4: what the rules are. He does that, but that's sometimes

1835
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 4: where we are, where young people want to do these things.

1836
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,480
Speaker 4: They want to put the attention on themselves as opposed

1837
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 4: to thinking about the greater good. But trusts the new

1838
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 4: CBA has to be negotiated soon, and owners are going

1839
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 4: to make the players really really feel the pinch because

1840
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 4: whether it's the job stuff, whether it's low management or

1841
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 4: sitting out or not doing all these other things like

1842
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 4: disrespecting the game. Trust is gonna be a very contentious

1843
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 4: negotiation because ownership is not going to continue to watch

1844
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 4: this and watch how these actions tarnished the brand.

1845
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you mentioned David Stern. I heard

1846
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 2: a story and I'm sure it's true when Alan Iverson

1847
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: did not stand for a national anthem one time in

1848
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 2: a game in Philadelphia. David Stern was watching the game

1849
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 2: on TV. He called the spectrum at the time, and

1850
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 2: he got a hold of him through some security guard

1851
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 2: and they got him hooked up and they told Alan

1852
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 2: arbusly's gonna be fine for that because he didn't stand

1853
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 2: for the national anthem.

1854
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: That to me was so yeah.

1855
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 4: I mean, look, certain did not play. He understood the

1856
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 4: bigger thing about the brand. And that's the one thing

1857
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 4: that I will say about the National Football League. The

1858
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 4: National Football League has built their model on team over player.

1859
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 3: Like it's always about the team.

1860
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 4: It's not necessarily about the of late they tried to

1861
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 4: make it about the quarterbacks or whatever, but make no mistake,

1862
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 4: it's always about the teams. The NBA was built on

1863
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 4: the backs of personalities and individual players magic and Bird

1864
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 4: save today Michael Jordan. Then we got Covid and whatever player.

1865
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 4: It's always been about the players, and those things where

1866
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 4: the issue. When you have the players, the players are

1867
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 4: empowered where they feel like they're bigger than the league

1868
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 4: in some way, shape or form. The NBA has to

1869
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 4: range some of that back in to allow the brand

1870
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 4: to continue to grow. Because you talk about the product

1871
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 4: being in the toilet. I don't see it as that,

1872
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:43,719
Speaker 4: but I do see where hard working fans can grow

1873
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 4: tired of seeing the ceiling is done by these guys.

1874
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 3: I can see that. And even though they'll be referenced.

1875
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 4: As millionaires and the owners of billionaires, the public is

1876
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,600
Speaker 4: always going to hold the millionaires the players to a

1877
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 4: higher standard than they hold.

1878
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 2: The owners, right because they don't know the owners, they

1879
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 2: see the players.

1880
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 3: Yep.

1881
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: That's by the reason of being. And look, I get it.

1882
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm kind of a stretch here, but you're talking about brand,

1883
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 2: and brand is so important. For example, if you work

1884
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 2: at McDonald's, you know you get that hamburger on the

1885
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:16,839
Speaker 2: sesame seed bun. You can't put the hamburger on a bagel.

1886
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 2: It doesn't work the way the brand is a sesame

1887
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 2: seed bun. You cannot. You're not bigger than the brand.

1888
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 2: That's the And I guess you're saying that, you know,

1889
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 2: John Moranda is not bigger than the brand. The NBA

1890
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 2: going to.

1891
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 1: Grizzlies, you gotta follow the rules. I get it.

1892
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 2: You can't wear a different colored uniform because you're part

1893
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 2: of the Grizzlies organization. You can't come out there in

1894
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 2: a green uniform that's the Celtics. You gotta wear the

1895
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 2: Grizzlies uniform.

1896
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's a big part of that.

1897
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you though, but this is fostered at

1898
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 4: lower levels. This is fostered at home. This is fostered

1899
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 4: through like club teams and all this other stuff where

1900
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 4: everyone is going for self. People aren't thinking about the

1901
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 4: team and if you grow up an environment where everything

1902
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 4: is about you and it's selfish and is this, Well,

1903
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 4: when you come to the league, you're gonna be selfish

1904
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 4: and make decisions that are just about you and not

1905
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 4: about everybody else. And unfortunately, players are gonna learn the

1906
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 4: hard way because it's impacting the bottom line.

1907
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 3: People are not watching it. If you're not watching it.

1908
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 4: Then the money changes in terms of how much comes

1909
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 4: into the league and how much revenue is split with

1910
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 4: the players. All of these things they seem small individually,

1911
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 4: but collectively they add up to a big deal. And

1912
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 4: it's one of the things that when they do have

1913
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 4: to kind of ratify or negotiate a new CBA, I

1914
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 4: trust me, Ja Morant's gestures and all this other stuff

1915
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 4: will be a part of the conversation because it's tarnishing

1916
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 4: the brand.

1917
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 2: Well, and you talk about brand, I mean I watched

1918
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 2: the games on TV, and there was a time when

1919
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 2: the teams would wear the same uniform in a sense

1920
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 2: that they would wear the same sneaker. Right now, go away, Right,

1921
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 2: We're always wearing cut black converse. That's what they would wear.

1922
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 2: All right, that's back in the day. But now I

1923
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 2: watch again the other day, each player's wearing a different

1924
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 2: ones wearing Adidas, one waring Pumas, They're all wearing what

1925
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 2: they do. They kind of deal with their own shoe company.

1926
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a good thing. I mean, it's great.

1927
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 4: Then I'm okay with them wearing their own shoe company,

1928
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 4: but I'm a little more traditional. The shoe color bothers me,

1929
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 4: like no, end Andy, and I get it. I know

1930
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 4: everyone wants to be their own individual, but to me,

1931
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 4: I felt like it was better. Let's talk about it

1932
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 4: from a branding standpoint. When someone tunes in and they

1933
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 4: look at the Boston Celtics and all their players have.

1934
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 3: On black shoes.

1935
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 4: You look at the Lakers and all their players have

1936
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 4: on white shoes or whatever the color way they choose, Like,

1937
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 4: hey man, pick whatever your team color is. And everyone

1938
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 4: needs to do that because there's a uniformity to it.

1939
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 3: We have seen it. And then the.

1940
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 4: One thing the National Football League does is they do

1941
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 4: not mess with the brand. They'll have a month where

1942
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 4: they say, hey guys, y'all can get crazy with the

1943
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 4: shoe color, right so in October, whether it's pink or

1944
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:13,759
Speaker 4: whether it's whatever, They'll let people get away with that stuff.

1945
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 4: If it's mental health awareness week, they will do that.

1946
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 4: But it's a uniform thing that the league says, oh

1947
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 4: everybody this week, Hey, y'all can wear your pink stuff,

1948
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 4: you can wear your purple stuff or whatever. But when

1949
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 4: they kick off the regular season, you're not gonna see

1950
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 4: that wild stuff.

1951
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Speaker 3: They don't do that.

1952
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:36,639
Speaker 4: They find people for that because they understand the brand. Look, nothing,

1953
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 4: no one is bigger than the brand and the NFL

1954
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 4: and particularly make sure everyone understands that at all times.

1955
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: So here's the million dollar question.

1956
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 2: How come the NFL could control that and the NBA can't.

1957
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 2: Is it the players union strong or what?

1958
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 4: Well, it's different because when the NBA elected to make

1959
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 4: their business model about the players, the players have more power.

1960
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 4: When the NFL elected to always make it about the team,

1961
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 4: the teams control it. They never let the players have

1962
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 4: all of the power. That's why you don't hear about

1963
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 4: the player empower movement empowerment movement in the NFL, because

1964
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,719
Speaker 4: the NFL is like, yeah, nah, we're about the team.

1965
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 4: This is about the team. The business model is about

1966
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 4: the team. They're squashing all of that. And if they

1967
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 4: needed to have holdouts to make sure that they retained

1968
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 4: the power. The NFL owners were willing to do that.

1969
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 4: The players have more of the juice in the NBA.

1970
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 4: But I think, look, man, at some point, if it

1971
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 4: continues to go this route, there's gonna be a market

1972
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 4: correction and the NBA is gonna try and see some

1973
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 4: of some of that power back.

1974
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 2: I would hope. So basketball is a great game. I

1975
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 2: love the game of basketball, but you have to admit,

1976
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,520
Speaker 2: right now, I think college basketball may be more popular

1977
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 2: than the NBA, although that may change also with the

1978
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 2: portal situation, because you really have a hard time following

1979
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 2: your favorite team because these guys are leaving, leaving rosters

1980
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 2: like free agents. It's the way. It's like the pros.

1981
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean it makes it hard to keep

1982
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,799
Speaker 4: up with. And you know the thing about that model

1983
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 4: is that model needs to be corrected because you need oversight,

1984
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 4: you need a clear set of rules so everyone can participate.

1985
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 4: They're basically doing pro football or pro based basketball without regulation.

1986
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 4: So you have that with no salary cap. So without

1987
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 4: a salary cap, it's all willy nilly. It's not fair.

1988
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 4: I mean, you don't just don't have any governess. Someone

1989
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 4: has to be in charge of the system. There's no

1990
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 4: one in charge of the system right.

1991
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 3: Now, you know.

1992
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:45,959
Speaker 2: And I've been reading a lot about, you know, Rip Patino,

1993
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 2: what he's done at Saint John's, and a lot of

1994
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 2: coaches are following his footsteps in the sense that he

1995
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 2: will not recruit a high school kid. He said, why

1996
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 2: take a chance on trying to quote develop a player,

1997
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 2: because he may not be there to develop. So they

1998
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 2: go after guys from other colleges and they get him

1999
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 2: in the portal and that's how they do it. They

2000
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 2: didn't even going for junior college kids anymore. They're going

2001
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 2: for portal players. They're not going for the four year

2002
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:13,599
Speaker 2: high school kid anymore because they're fearful of that kid

2003
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 2: will never stay that four years.

2004
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 4: Well that makes sense because also like the model, and

2005
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 4: I said, this man going back to like twenty fifteen,

2006
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 4: sixteen seventeen, the older teams were winning when Kentucky and

2007
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 4: Duke really championed the one and done era, Like it

2008
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 4: was great, but you're not winning with a bunch of

2009
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 4: eighteen and nineteen year olds against twenty three to twenty

2010
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:38,600
Speaker 4: four year old players. We saw that play out in

2011
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 4: the Final four Cooper Flag and Duke was the most

2012
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 4: talented team in the field. There's no question when you

2013
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:46,760
Speaker 4: looked at them play all season, they're the most talented team.

2014
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 4: But in a one game scenario with everything riding on it,

2015
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 4: the age and the maturity, the physical development and overall

2016
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 4: toughness of Houston wore down the Blue Devils and really

2017
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 4: impacted their best player, Cooper Flack, who's a terrific player

2018
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 4: and prospect.

2019
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 1: But he's a kid playing against men.

2020
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 3: He's still a kid. He's still a kid.

2021
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 4: He's still eighteen nineteen playing and what is amounting to

2022
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 4: a man's game. Yeah, it's not fair to him, It's

2023
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 4: not fair to everybody else who's trying to play against

2024
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 4: those older teams.

2025
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 1: It's gonna changed. It has to change, you know.

2026
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 2: On Alner note that we talk about players what they've done.

2027
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 2: Did you hear about Lebron James. He becomes the first

2028
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 2: professional male athlete to have a likeness depicted in a

2029
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 2: Ken Doll. When I read that, I thought about Bucky

2030
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 2: Brooks with a Ken doll.

2031
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I would love it. I'm not gonna be

2032
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:39,640
Speaker 3: mad at it.

2033
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 4: So here's what it says to me about Lebron James.

2034
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 3: Love mahete him.

2035
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 4: He has crossover appeal, right, and there are a lot

2036
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 4: of people that adore him for what he's been able

2037
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 4: to do on the court. Like they talked about, this

2038
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 4: year is only the second year in his lifetime, in

2039
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 4: the second year in his NBA career, twenty two seasons

2040
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 4: these average below twenty five points, and then he avers

2041
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:07,599
Speaker 4: twenty four point four points this year, and when everyone

2042
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 4: talked about, yeah, forty years of when everyone talks about

2043
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 4: the debate, and I won't get into the goat debate

2044
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 4: or whatever, but here's what I will say. And watching

2045
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan in the twilight of his career with the

2046
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 4: Washington Wizards, the last season whatever, Michael Jordan could not

2047
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,600
Speaker 4: sustain a high level of play like Lebron has sustained

2048
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 4: that final season. Lebron doesn't look like he's slowing down. Yeah,

2049
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 4: there's some little things that you see, but I remember

2050
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 4: watching the end of Kobe's run. I remember watching the

2051
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 4: end of MJ's run. Different look, different field. This dude

2052
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 4: is committed to Sam Shaving being at his best, and

2053
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 4: he's been able to do it.

2054
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 1: I will tell you this much.

2055
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,719
Speaker 2: They talk about Lebron James and I hear these people

2056
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 2: behind microphones talk about is he the goal, the comparison

2057
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 2: to Michael Jordan. I hear about the Mount Rushmore of

2058
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,679
Speaker 2: the NBA. Anybody who does that lazy, that's the lazy

2059
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 2: man's out. That's a lazy man's topic for a conversation

2060
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 2: on the radio.

2061
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:06,799
Speaker 1: Do you agree.

2062
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 2: I agree you can't compare yesteryear to today because if you

2063
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 2: ask me who the greatest player was of all time,

2064
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now is Will Chamberlain. I think

2065
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 2: Will Chamberlain was the greatest player ever of all what

2066
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 2: he did fifty points a game, he averaged fifty a games,

2067
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 2: scored one hundred and one game, led the league, and

2068
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 2: assists one time. So don't even go that route and

2069
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,680
Speaker 2: not to have Will Chamberlain amount the so called Mount Rushmore,

2070
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 2: you're an idiot, really, And those people who talk about

2071
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 2: all time players and goats do your homework. You know,

2072
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 2: you can't talk about that list. You know the history

2073
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 2: of the league, and most people don't. They go back

2074
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 2: to Kobe and that's about it. That's what they did.

2075
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 3: That's about it.

2076
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 4: And I'll say this, you talk about Will Chamberlain, I

2077
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:49,480
Speaker 4: would say the most disrespected.

2078
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 3: Great player of all time is kareemam do what you bar?

2079
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 4: I agree not put enough respect on his name for

2080
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 4: what he was able to do. Winn that championship in Milwaukee,

2081
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 4: scored warships and let at one point being the all

2082
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 4: time leading scorer, and creating a shot or mastering a

2083
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 4: shot that was an unstoppable shot. He does not get

2084
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 4: enough credit for what he was able to do. When

2085
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 4: you're right, people need to get beyond this latest generation,

2086
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 4: this Michael Jordan era back and really appreciate the players

2087
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 4: been there. I would say this, the NBA is probably

2088
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 4: its own worst enemy because it's players often criticized its

2089
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 4: own players, and they diminished the accomplishments of their predecessors.

2090
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 4: When they talk about, like JJ Redick may have uttered

2091
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 4: when he was in media, that they're playing against plumbers

2092
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:48,839
Speaker 4: and electricians in those things, you are disrespecting the legacy

2093
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 4: of guys like Bob Coosey and Jerry West and Russell.

2094
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 4: You talked about Wilt and gild Rich and whoever. You're

2095
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 4: disrespecting the legion of players. But there has to be

2096
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 4: a reverence for the people that set the table before you.

2097
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 4: And writing in the NBA they don't have that any

2098
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:07,839
Speaker 4: that that view of history.

2099
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to see Kareem Abdul Jabbar when

2100
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 2: he was lu Al Sindor play in high school at

2101
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:16,600
Speaker 2: Powell Memorial High School in New York City which is

2102
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 2: no longer that schools closed down gone, and every college

2103
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 2: in the country wanted him to play there, and I

2104
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 2: was hoping he got n YU coach Lewissini May he

2105
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 2: rest in peace, and he was going to play for

2106
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 2: the Violess. NYU was home court with Madison Square Garden,

2107
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 2: so he opted out and he ended up going to

2108
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 2: UCLA and guess what happened. NYU dropped basketball there back

2109
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 2: in the Division III. He would have saved New York

2110
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 2: City college basketball. But he went out west. And I

2111
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 2: get it, you know, and I'm I'm saying he got

2112
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 2: money whatever, whatever he did. That's fun and he had

2113
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 2: a great career. But I would have loved to see

2114
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 2: him stay in New York City. But he got out

2115
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:52,720
Speaker 2: and he went he went out west. That's what he did.

2116
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, it's unfortunately sometimes you make decisions

2117
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 4: that you maybe either regret or you do us best

2118
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 4: for you at that time. But no, it would have

2119
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 4: been great to have that, to set that up to

2120
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 4: kind of spawn it. We talk about a grassroots, homegrown situation.

2121
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 3: That would have been an opportunity to come and do that.

2122
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 2: By the way, the Lebron James Kendall goes on sale

2123
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:21,680
Speaker 2: tomorrow for seventy five bucks if you're interested, and the

2124
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 2: doll wears sunglasses, headphones, and a blue and white letterman's

2125
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 2: jacket with the LJ on the left breast, his number

2126
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 2: twenty three on the right sleeve, and Ohio and crown

2127
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 2: patches on the other. His first name is on the

2128
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 2: back with just a kid for Makron underneath his T

2129
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 2: shirt says we are family, a nod to the Lebron

2130
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 2: James Family Foundation, and his blue shoes of course on

2131
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 2: Nikes saw Doi like seventy five bucks. You ought to

2132
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 2: get your daughter when you really should. I mean, you're

2133
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 2: a good pop. You should get your daughter.

2134
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll go and get Lebron James Kendall. Yeah, I'll

2135
01:41:57,920 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 3: work on it. Let's see if I can get it

2136
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Speaker 3: before it says.

2137
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 1: There you go. All right, he's Bucky Brooks.

2138
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Speaker 2: Get him on my next at bucket Brooks at anthy

2139
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2152
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Speaker 2: game at the end of this hour. But is your

2153
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Speaker 2: that in just about a minute. He's Bucky Brooks and

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Speaker 2: be sure to tune into Draft Night Live on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: April the twenty fourth, eight pm Easton throughout the first

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Speaker 2: round of the draft inside of Jay Glazer, Formerjet general

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Speaker 2: manager Joe Douglas, College Football Hall of Famer LeVar Arrington

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Speaker 2: and Fox Sports lead college football reporter Jenny Taft will

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Speaker 2: have picked by pick, predictions and reactions to every first

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Speaker 2: Now let's get into this. I want your thoughts right now.

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01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks on the nil name image like this, Is

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01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 2: it here to stay?

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Speaker 1: If it's going to change? What changes?

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01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 2: If anyone needed?

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01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 4: Oh, it's here to stay because there's no putting the

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01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 4: genie back in the bottle. However, the things have to change.

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01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 4: You have to have some regulation. You have to figure

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01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 4: out how are we going to operate this to make

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01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 4: the the playing field level for all of the teams.

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01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,759
Speaker 4: Revenue sharing gets coming into the mix. And so revenue

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01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:10,639
Speaker 4: sharing where they're splitting the money in schools are directly

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01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 4: paying players based on the revenues and the percentages.

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Speaker 3: In those things.

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Speaker 4: But nil also has to be regulated. So how do

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01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 4: you manage all of those things to be able to

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01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 4: make sure that, look, it's a deal that is fair

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Speaker 4: for the players and the schools. At some point you're

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01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 4: gonna have to unionize and you have to have collectively

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01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 4: bargained agreements to make sure their level of protections for

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Speaker 4: both the team and the player.

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Speaker 3: When we go forward.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get it too.

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Speaker 2: This story bro Now, University of Tennessee quarterback nico Ya

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01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 2: Lala Malava. He wanted a new contract and now obviously

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Speaker 2: he's leaving Tennessee. His agents, his agents has representatives asked

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Speaker 2: his deal to increase, get this to the four million

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Speaker 2: dollar range? Are you kidding me? Joe Floko's making four

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Speaker 2: million dollars now for the Cleveland Browns. He's a seventeen

2200
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 2: year pro in the end NFL and this kid at

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Speaker 2: the University of Tennessee wants.

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Speaker 1: For a million.

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Speaker 2: What is going on? It's craziness, isn't it. This is nuts?

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01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 2: And he's gone and right now I don't think any

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Speaker 2: other school's going to pay him. Thank goodness, Tennessee had

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01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:16,519
Speaker 2: the hanging downs to say, get lost, we're not paying you.

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Speaker 1: Go away.

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01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:22,759
Speaker 4: Look I give Tennessee you talk about the hangy downs,

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Speaker 4: I give them credit for having the onions to be

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01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 4: like kick Rocks. And this was a challenging situation for

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01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:34,520
Speaker 4: Tennessee because out California.

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Speaker 3: I remember he was at Warren High School.

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Speaker 4: He didn't play his senior year because Tennessee paid him

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Speaker 4: on a contract that was anywhere from eight to ten

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Speaker 4: million dollars, didn't play a senior year, made his way

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Speaker 4: out of Tennessee, enrolled early, has become the starting quarterback,

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Speaker 4: led him to a ten y three record last year,

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Speaker 4: and was in the midst of a deal that was

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01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 4: paying him two point four million dollars. They got greedy,

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Speaker 4: they wanted more cash, and Tennessee was like, no, we're good.

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Speaker 4: Nobody's bigger than the program. And Josh Heipel said this

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01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 4: at the presser. There have been a lot of great

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01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:13,559
Speaker 4: players and coaches that have donned the power t and

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01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 4: there would be great players and coaches that will where

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01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 4: the power tea after I'm gone. And after several of

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01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 4: these players are gone. Got to take a stare. Nico

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01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 4: was selfish his teammates doing, and if they agreed to

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01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 4: that deal and brought them back, it would erect the

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01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 4: chemistry of the team.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem.

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01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 2: He didn't go to practice this peace Friday, and yesterday

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01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:34,639
Speaker 2: was the Orange and White spring game, so he sat

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Speaker 2: that out. Now he's gone. First of all, I get it,

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01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 2: you could ask for the moon. I mean, it doesn't

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01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:42,719
Speaker 2: necessarily mean you're gonna get it. Who said he's worth

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01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 2: that kind of money initially? Number one? Number two, who's

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01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 2: paying this money? And number three? How do you control

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01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:51,720
Speaker 2: something like this, Because if in fact they gave him

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01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,599
Speaker 2: the four million dollars, then everybody in that ball club's

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Speaker 2: going to go and they want more money as well.

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Speaker 2: It'll be a domino effect. It's not good. It's not

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01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 2: healthy for the sport. And I can see now instead

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01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 2: of players leaving early, big gonna state you could make

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Speaker 2: more money in college than you can maybe in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Some instances, yes, you absolutely can. And we're seeing that

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Speaker 4: impacted draft. Excuse me, So we're seeing that impact to draft.

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Speaker 4: And the reason we're seeing it Day three, the later

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Speaker 4: round picks.

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Speaker 3: What used to be. I wouldn't say like high level

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Speaker 3: talent that would be there.

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Speaker 4: Some of those guys are now staying in school and

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01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 4: exhausting all of their eligibility, and because of that, the

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01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 4: draft doesn't have the depth that it had in the past,

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01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 4: when you had an influx of juniors that were coming

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Speaker 4: out looking to start their working life making money.

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Speaker 3: In those things. Well, now I'm making money in college.

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01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 4: Why there doesn't need to be a rush for me

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01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 4: to get there.

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Speaker 3: I'm Carson Back.

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Speaker 4: I'm making four million dollars if I'm drafted, depending on

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Speaker 4: what level.

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Speaker 3: Draft, maybe make that, maybe I don't.

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01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just gonna stay here and make this money

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01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 4: in college and continue to have fun and do all

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01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 4: the other stuff that you do as a college student.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people are making that, so it has

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01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 4: changed the business model, not only at the collegiate level,

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Speaker 4: but at the NFL level.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so now he's in the portal and apparently they

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01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,679
Speaker 2: say his representatives reached out to other schools, including one

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01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:24,880
Speaker 2: Oregon said sorry when not interested. So my question is

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01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,640
Speaker 2: this was Oregon not interested because of his talent or

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01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 2: not interested because any want to pay him When he

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01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 2: was asking.

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Speaker 3: Could be a combination of things.

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01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:36,560
Speaker 4: Colleges are now going to take the same approach to

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01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 4: NFL team's take. You have to fit not only schematically,

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01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:44,719
Speaker 4: but you got to fit from a personality standpoint. If

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01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:48,160
Speaker 4: Nico is already making two point four million dollars the

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Speaker 4: starting quarterback at Tennessee in the SEC, If in the

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01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:56,599
Speaker 4: midst of this he's contacting another school to see if

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01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:58,680
Speaker 4: he can get a better deal, well, what is he

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01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 4: going to do when he gets to your school.

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01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 3: He's gonna do the same thing. He's gonna try and

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01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 3: get more money. So he is.

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01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 4: Look, he's not for long when it comes to wherever

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01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 4: he goes. He also is telling you he ain't really

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01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 4: a team player. He's a mercenary that's looking out for himself.

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01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:21,640
Speaker 4: It is hard to win games at any level. It's

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01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:24,759
Speaker 4: hard to win in college. Yeah, you can be superiorly talented,

2291
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,560
Speaker 4: but when you end up facing these like teams, the

2292
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 4: chemistry and the connectivity has to be there. He's already

2293
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 4: showing you he's not about the team, and he's never

2294
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 4: gonna be about the team. He's gonna be about the money,

2295
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:39,719
Speaker 4: and that is gonna be a problem when you're trying

2296
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:43,799
Speaker 4: to build a team, even an environment where everyone's getting paid,

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01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 4: even in the pros where everyone is getting paid. At

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01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 4: its essence, football is a team sport and everyone has

2299
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 4: to be connected. And that connectivity has to extend beyond

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01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 4: the money that you make and any transactional things that

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01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 4: are agreed upon. It has to be a full commitment

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Speaker 4: to your teammates and your coaches.

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01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 3: Nico's not committed. It's gonna be hard for him.

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Speaker 4: He'll get paid, he'll get money, whatever, but you'll never

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01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 4: be what he could be because he's not wired the

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Speaker 4: right way.

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01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe that's his representative's fault. Maybe he's too

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01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 2: stupid to understand that. But you know, he had a

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01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:19,120
Speaker 2: good year, there's no doubt about that. Tennessee went to

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01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:21,760
Speaker 2: the college football playoffs. They finished ten and three. He

2311
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 2: threw for over twenty six hundred yars, nineteen touchdowns and

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01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 2: only five picks, and completed almost sixty four percent of

2313
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 2: his passes. But here's my question, how to fix this?

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01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 2: That's my deal. I want to fix this because I

2315
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 2: love college sports other sports in general, and this is

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01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 2: sports going down the tube. It really is. You want

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01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 2: to go in the portal, what you're in Now that's fine,

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01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 2: you go in the portal, get as much money as

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01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:43,599
Speaker 2: you can, but you're gonna have to sit out a year.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe that'll stop it.

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01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 2: Because it not gonna day when back in the day

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01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 2: when you train, when you played, if you were going

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01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 2: to transfer, you'd have to sit out a year.

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01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:52,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But see, like I'm not for punishing players for getting

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01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:59,719
Speaker 4: in the portal when we don't punish coaches for leaving.

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01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 4: So it can't be good for the goose and not

2328
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 4: good for the game. They like, both things have to matter. Now,

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01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 4: if you are a team and we're talking about contracts

2330
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:13,599
Speaker 4: in those things, I think you then have to put

2331
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 4: like buyouts and those things into the contracts if you

2332
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 4: have that. The other thing, and I tweeted this, but

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01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:24,799
Speaker 4: I think people have to understand if we're now moving

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01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 4: into a full model where college football is basically minor

2335
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:32,000
Speaker 4: league pro football, it's not just the Nkos that are

2336
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 4: now in danger of having their money pulled. It's the

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01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:39,599
Speaker 4: bottom of the roster guys, the guys who were brought

2338
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:44,400
Speaker 4: in recruited, but they're not living up to their recruiting stars.

2339
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 4: They're not contributing as valuable players. Well, what you're gonna

2340
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 4: start seeing you can start seeing people and players get cut.

2341
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:55,640
Speaker 4: You're gonna start seeing this act out just like it

2342
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 4: does in NFL training camps. Hey, man, we get to

2343
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 4: the point, here's our roster.

2344
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,840
Speaker 3: Hey, we wish you well, but we're gonna part ways

2345
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:06,719
Speaker 3: with you right now. We're gonna take the money back.

2346
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 4: We also gonna take away your opportunity to continue to

2347
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 4: go to our school.

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01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 3: So all of these.

2349
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 4: Players that are making these things to go chase money

2350
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 4: and a higher level of education, those opportunities are gonna

2351
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 4: be different now because this is the big leagues and

2352
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 4: we're not gonna pay for you to get your degree

2353
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 4: or whatever. So the pressure that players feel is going

2354
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 4: to be different because not only do I have to

2355
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 4: get it going quickly on the field, I got to

2356
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 4: start knocking out some of these credits so I can

2357
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 4: at least leave here with a degree. And since the

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01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:43,040
Speaker 4: overwhelming majority of players that are in the college game

2359
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 4: do not play in the pros, man, you better be

2360
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 4: on it with your p's and q's in terms of

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01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 4: your path to a better life.

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01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:52,800
Speaker 3: You better be on it when it comes to getting

2363
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 3: your degree and all this other stuff.

2364
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 4: Because the opportunities are going to be different for you

2365
01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:58,639
Speaker 4: now that we're going to a pro model.

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01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:00,559
Speaker 2: I want to put the brakes what you said for

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01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 2: one second, because you said it's going to be like

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01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 2: the pros, and they're gonna say, we're not going to

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Speaker 2: give your money. Now, here's the question I have. Do

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01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 2: the colleges actually give them money to the kid or

2371
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 2: is it some benefactor or a booster cuts a deal

2372
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 2: with a booster, Because I'm thinking, like the person who

2373
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 2: put up the money for Nico right now is scratching

2374
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 2: his head or banging his head against the wolf, saying,

2375
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 2: what did I do? I paid for this kid to

2376
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 2: come to Tennessee. Now he wants more money, but he's leaving.

2377
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 2: I mean, amout the money. I'm not thinking like maybe

2378
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 2: maybe Peyton Manning did it. He's a Tennessee grad. Maybe

2379
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 2: he's putting up money to get kids to come in there,

2380
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:35,760
Speaker 2: and then I l I don't think the school's doing

2381
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 2: it right. It's actual boosters and benefactors.

2382
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:40,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think everyone's connected.

2383
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,360
Speaker 4: When you're dealing with the amount of money that we're

2384
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 4: talking about, there's no one that's paying the players without

2385
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 4: the team knowing. There's no one that's paying the players

2386
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 4: at a certain dollar amount without the team saying hey

2387
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:54,799
Speaker 4: it's okay to green light him for four million dollars

2388
01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 4: like it is a It is a collective unit when

2389
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 4: it comes to the decision makers and who's getting paid

2390
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 4: and how much they're getting paid.

2391
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, this is this is the pro model.

2392
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 3: This is what we have when people talk about like

2393
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:12,679
Speaker 3: how much money Ohio State spent twenty million dollars they had,

2394
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 3: that's the salary cap the players and coaches.

2395
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:18,120
Speaker 1: When they from boosters.

2396
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 2: They got the money for it.

2397
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 3: They got it from boosters.

2398
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got boosters, and the boosters have things their

2399
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 2: money to funnel it into Ohio State. Is that what

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01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:24,680
Speaker 2: they do?

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01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:27,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, they funnel it into a collective and then collective

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01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:31,599
Speaker 4: pays it out. But look, the collective likely pays it

2403
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 4: out at the direction and the discretion of the coaching staff,

2404
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:38,120
Speaker 4: of the head coach, the general manager and those things.

2405
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, those moneies are not just loosely going to

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01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 4: all these guys. You don't have one booster just running

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01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 4: around looking up and down the roster saying, hey, I'm

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01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 4: gonna give him one hundred thousand.

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01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 3: This got three hundred.

2410
01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 4: Now the coach is police and control that because remember,

2411
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 4: there are a lot of players on the team, and

2412
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:56,879
Speaker 4: if you're trying to keep the cohesion of the team,

2413
01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:00,960
Speaker 4: everybody has to get something. You can't have some guys

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01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 4: making money and other guys not making money. Because now, Andy,

2415
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:08,280
Speaker 4: how am I going to in good conscience? Like, Man,

2416
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 4: I'm doing the same workouts as Nico. I'm not getting

2417
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 4: any money, but I'm supposed to block and protect him.

2418
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to run around and sacrifice my body to

2419
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 4: catch his passes that our errant. And he's making four

2420
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 4: million dollars driving a Bughatti and I'm over here with

2421
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 4: no money in my Honda Accord that barely has hup

2422
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:30,000
Speaker 4: caps and will nah, it's not gonna work. So they

2423
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 4: have to make it where everybody gets something, and then

2424
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 4: the elite players get the most, just like an NFL

2425
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 4: locker room.

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01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:39,839
Speaker 3: But everybody has to get something.

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01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 4: And that's why I say, like, this thing submits the

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01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 4: full transformation of college football to the pro pros. And

2429
01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:52,160
Speaker 4: you're going to see people take pay cuts. You can

2430
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 4: see people get cut. You're gonna see all of these

2431
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 4: things put in there. And so now we know and

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01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 4: I've talked to coaches because everyone talks about like, oh

2433
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 4: what the transfer porter, you can't coach them hard.

2434
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 3: I think you can coach them harder now.

2435
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:09,520
Speaker 4: Because now that I'm paying you, there's a level of

2436
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 4: expectation of the things that you have to meet. So

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01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 4: what used to be optional you watching film, you comeing

2438
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 4: to that, Hey, if you don't do this, I'm gonna

2439
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:20,200
Speaker 4: find you, just like I will find you in the pros.

2440
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:23,160
Speaker 4: I'm taking money out of your pocket if you don't

2441
01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 4: complete these tasks that we.

2442
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 3: Expect you to do. To me.

2443
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 4: It's cleared up a lot of the stuff that used

2444
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 4: to be pyeing the stock, pieing the sky, idealistic stuff.

2445
01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:35,600
Speaker 3: When it comes to the team.

2446
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:39,320
Speaker 4: Oh no, the coaches that were hardcore, they can be

2447
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:42,360
Speaker 4: even harder because now I got you, I can control

2448
01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 4: you with the money that I pay.

2449
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 2: I had no idea. See now you woke me up

2450
01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 2: because I don't get paid here and you do.

2451
01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:55,720
Speaker 1: It's like you just woke me up. I had no idea.

2452
01:56:55,840 --> 01:57:00,240
Speaker 2: I thought we did this for free. Wow, but keep

2453
01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 2: brooks Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio.

2454
01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:05,200
Speaker 1: Get ready to point the playing game.

2455
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 2: It's freaking next. The blame game coming right up. It's

2456
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 2: about nine minutes before the top of the hour. He's

2457
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks and Andy Ferhman. Of course we're lying at

2458
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:15,200
Speaker 2: the ti rack dot com studios and speaking of nine

2459
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 2: am Eastern, which is the top of the hour countdown

2460
01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 2: with Briano. What a trifecta brian O, Bill Krackenberger at

2461
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 2: rich Olberger right there at nine o'clock right here on

2462
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:29,040
Speaker 1: But right now it's time for the playing gate. Oh no,

2464
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 1: it's your fault.

2465
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 2: What is all your fault?

2466
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 5: Maybe it's everyone's faults, the liar.

2467
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 8: That's why there's the blame game, the blame game. Let's

2468
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 8: figure out who to blame. Yeah, Patty, who's gonna blame?

2469
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:49,520
Speaker 8: All right, Well, you're your fault, you know it's your fault. Andy,

2470
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 8: I blame you for making me play this game.

2471
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:56,680
Speaker 7: I'm kidding. I love this game. It's the blame game, everybody.

2472
01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:57,520
Speaker 7: And where are we going?

2473
01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: First?

2474
01:57:58,240 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 7: I'll tell you right now. He's coming next, Antonio Brown.

2475
01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 7: It's not ab We're talking Tyreek Hill.

2476
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 3: Guys.

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01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:08,960
Speaker 7: He has again been involved in another domestic dispute. The

2478
01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 7: report stated that Hill's mom in law said that Tyreek

2479
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 7: was acting very aggressive and impulsive, claiming he threw laptop,

2480
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:21,280
Speaker 7: grabbed his wife and walked toward the balcony. High rise

2481
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:23,800
Speaker 7: Hoody blamem Andy Furman.

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01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 2: I blame the media because he never touched her. He

2483
01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:30,000
Speaker 2: never allegedly hit her. He yelled, Hey, people have arguments

2484
01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:32,040
Speaker 2: all the time in fights. This was not a fight.

2485
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:35,080
Speaker 2: So what he threw the laptop. Maybe it didn't work,

2486
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:37,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. But the point is you have a

2487
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 2: high profile athlete and people are out there trying to

2488
01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 2: pick on him.

2489
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:41,200
Speaker 1: That's what they do.

2490
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:43,960
Speaker 2: They're dealing with John Moran, now they're dealing with Tyreek Hill.

2491
01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 2: Back off, back off. It's his private life. He had

2492
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:47,720
Speaker 2: an argument.

2493
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:48,000
Speaker 5: Bool.

2494
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is his private life.

2495
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:53,840
Speaker 4: But he's made his private life public by engaging in

2496
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 4: some of the things out in public, and so people

2497
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 4: will have an interest in him. And so now that

2498
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 4: he's opened that up, he's op up Pandora's box.

2499
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 3: People are going weigh in.

2500
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 4: He has to make sure that he always watch his actions,

2501
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 4: watch his behavior, because ultimately he is always going to

2502
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 4: be held at a higher standard.

2503
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:10,520
Speaker 3: And when you look at.

2504
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:12,640
Speaker 4: The backstory of how he came into the league, and

2505
01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:15,000
Speaker 4: some of the stuff that was in his background. It

2506
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 4: makes sense that people are going at him about any argument,

2507
01:59:18,640 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 4: any incident that he has with a female.

2508
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 1: All right, next one up, guys.

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01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 7: Michael Malone, head coach of the Denver Nuggets, was fired

2510
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 7: on the last week of the regular season. Who do

2511
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:30,400
Speaker 7: you blame, Bucky Brooks?

2512
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:34,800
Speaker 4: I blame the ego that permeated throughout the Nuggets organization.

2513
01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 4: So Mike Malone and Calvin Booth could not get along.

2514
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 4: They could not get on the same page. And while

2515
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:42,480
Speaker 4: they're preaching to the team to play as a team,

2516
01:59:42,520 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 4: you have two of the leaders of the organization not

2517
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 4: playing or not being good teammates. So I blame the

2518
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:51,160
Speaker 4: people up top, Calvin Booth and Mike Malone. Their ego

2519
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 4: got in the way, and so now both are out

2520
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:54,840
Speaker 4: of a job because they couldn't get it together.

2521
01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 2: It's rid thaniculous. I blame the organization. Was you have

2522
01:59:57,720 --> 01:59:59,600
Speaker 2: a good man like Michael Malone, what heck of a

2523
01:59:59,640 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 2: coach the week before the end of the season. That's ridiculous. Okay,

2524
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:05,760
Speaker 2: And I know Michael's daddy, Brendan Malone, hell of a coach.

2525
02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:07,320
Speaker 2: Michael's a hell of a coach. Did a lot of

2526
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:09,640
Speaker 2: good things in Denver. Shame on you, Denver.

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02:00:10,640 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 7: All right, final say guys Alex Evaskin bro Gretzky's career

2528
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:18,360
Speaker 7: goals record last week? Why no more national news on

2529
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 7: this super record?

2530
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:23,360
Speaker 2: Who do you blame, Mandy? Because none was speak French.

2531
02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:24,600
Speaker 2: That's why Florence.

2532
02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:26,120
Speaker 3: No one pays attention to hockey.

2533
02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:32,640
Speaker 2: So yeah,