1 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Mittelcoff Freeing Out podcast, 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: Back at it again, a little little Friday edition as 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: we cruise you on into the weekend. And you know, 4 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: it might be a little shorter of a podcast. Actually 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: maybe not, but I'm gonna hit on the C B A. 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: And that's as of recording this going back and forth. 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: I did a little research. I was talking d M 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: in with a with a player involved in this and 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: and got some good information and just a little baffled 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: by some of the things. And I listen, I see 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: both sides. I'm not team owner or team player. I 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: I get it like it's it's gonna get ugly. That 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: that's what a negotiation of billions of dollars usually is 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: because every half a point, meaning half a percentage, is 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: a lot of money. So these these get a little ugly, 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: and uh, we'll hit on both sides. Things that really 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: jump out to me at just the information that we 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: have so far on a deal that I'm recording this 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: on Thursday afternoon. I guess the players technically could vote 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: on Friday. It ain't gonna happen, I'm sure, but I 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: would imagine this thing gets done. But it does have 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: huge ramifications because if a contract is finished, the collective 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: bargaining agreement, team like the Dallas Cowboys and a team 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: like the Tennessee Titans can no longer franchise in transition. 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: Tag Amari Cooper, Dak Prescott, Ryan Tannehill, Derrick Henry. So 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: so big implications with whenever this deal is finished. But 27 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: I'll just hit on some things I've heard and things 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: that stand out to me. Then I just wrote down 29 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of stories, just headlines around the elgue, just 30 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: some of my thoughts on each one. And then we'll 31 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: dive into the Middlecoff mail bag. A bunch of you 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: guys have DM me Instagram at John Middlecoff is the handle, 33 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: slide up on in it and leave your question anything 34 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: football related. Let's start with the C B A and 35 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: one thing that really jumped out to me. I just 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: think this is crazy. This is insanity to me. Now 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: I've known this, but I didn't quite know it. One 38 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs pay dramatically less than the regular season. I 39 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: just picked not a super rich guy. I picked a 40 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: guy that makes like six million a year, Just a 41 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: random player who makes six million dollars a year. Let's 42 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: just say that is their salary for the season. For 43 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: those of you that don't know a player, Unlike if 44 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: me or you, we make a hundred thousand dollars, we 45 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: make that over three, right, we get every two weeks 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: direct deposit. If you're an NFL player. Now obviously you 47 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: get offseason bonus and some other stuff. But in season, 48 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: if your base salary is six million dollars, you get 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: six million dollars divided by seventeen. The bye week counts, 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: so that would be three dollars. Uh net. This excuse me, 51 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: gross gross income, so you make less one. Taxes are 52 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: factory in but three and two thousand dollars a game 53 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: if you make If you're a team and you make 54 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: the wild card round, you make twenty eight thousand dollars. 55 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: If you make the next divisional round you get thirty 56 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: one tho dollars. For the conference championship game fifty six 57 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and if you win the super Bowl you 58 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: get a hundred and twenty four thousand dollars. If you 59 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: lose the Super Bowl you get half that sixty two dollars. Well, 60 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: here's the crazy part. If you get a first or 61 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: second round, by which obviously that might change with the 62 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: new cb A where they're adding to the playoff format. 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: You don't get paid for that first round. That is 64 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: pretty nuts. So the Chiefs made two hundred and eleven 65 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. So if you're a guy like Frank Clark 66 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: making fifteen million, or the Honey Badger making fifteen or 67 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, as the player I was d m and 68 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: back and forth with the player that knows what's going on. 69 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: He's like, you're really playing for the love of the game. 70 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: And the craziest thing is in the playoffs. Now if 71 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: you win, the whole thing, like Honey Badger is now 72 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: a legend in Kansas City, Patrick mahomes a legend in 73 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: Kansas City. But what about the backup for the New 74 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. I'm just a random guy who made thirty 75 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: or twenty eight thousand dollars in that game, whose base 76 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: salary is five hundred thousand dollars, who has no guaranteed 77 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: money on his salary because he was a seventh round pick, 78 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: And if he shatters his leg in that playoff game, 79 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: his career is over. As the player told me, and 80 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: he was so right. In any other business, given the 81 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: risk verse reward of playoff games relative to financial implification 82 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: implications of what you make normally to what you do 83 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: is basically bonus rounds. They would tell you not to play. 84 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: And I think back to when I first got into 85 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: radio right out of the NFL, and I got a 86 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 1: radio job relatively quick about six months after I was fired. 87 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: Full time radio job. I don't know what it quite. 88 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: It paid, maybe it was like sixty five tho dollars. 89 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: And one of the things that I had two hour slot, 90 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: but we had the Raiders. And one of of things 91 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: I was adamant with the boss of the station that 92 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: I wanted to do is I wanted to play a 93 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: role in the broadcast for the Raiders, whether it be 94 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: pregame or post game. And he's like, yeah, you can 95 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: do the post game for the Raiders. So I did 96 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: the post game for the Raiders twenty days. That's obviously 97 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: because the Raiders don't play on Monday or Thursday. You're 98 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: playing on Sunday. I guess they did play back then. 99 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: Not every team played on Thursday, or maybe they did, 100 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: but no Monday nights or no Sunday nights. Basically, every 101 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: game is a ten or one, and I was so 102 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: fired up. And I did it for like two maybe 103 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: three years, and then I realized when I got fired 104 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: and out of radio, and big reason was because I 105 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: was really hard on the Raiders. It was during a 106 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: rough time and I was critical because the team was awful. 107 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: And then you realize when you're partners with teams, they 108 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: get they get very sensitive with that, which I didn't 109 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: quite understand at the time because my boss told me, 110 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: let it loose. You know, if you believe it, say it. 111 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: You know what you're talking about, you know football. But 112 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: here was the main kicker, which I know people that 113 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: do the pre and post game for the San Frasco 114 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: forty Niners, they going right to do the preier post 115 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: game is like a thousand dollars a game because it's 116 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: it's your Sunday. You know. My partner guy who I 117 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: still do another podcast with, who I hosted that radio 118 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: show with. We got paid the same amount at the 119 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: time to do the radio show, but he got the 120 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: weekends off and I was working. I didn't get paid. 121 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: Though I didn't care because I was like, oh, this 122 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: is gonna help my career or whatever. It actually was 123 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: bad for my career. Technically, big picture was great for 124 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: my career, but you know what I'm saying, I didn't 125 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: get compensated for that, And the first couple of years, 126 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: I was so excited. By the third year, I'm like, 127 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: this is insane. Now, I extended my contract and they 128 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: got a huge raise, but not necessarily for those games 129 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: my third year, and it's still it was one of 130 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: those things. Looking back, I was a moron. And the 131 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: one thing the players need to fight for in this 132 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: arrangement is we need more money during the playoffs. Because 133 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: if I'm a ten million dollar player and I'm getting 134 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars a game, give or take, and then 135 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs start and I'm getting thirty thou dollars, how 136 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: does that equate? Especially when the league's are making so 137 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: much money on the playoffs because the viewership, and it's 138 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: a big reason they can sell the league at a 139 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: premium to the networks because so many people are watching 140 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: the half games now. And I I was one thing 141 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: I mentioned to the player, I'm like, well, if you 142 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: have success in the playoffs, right and win a conference championship, 143 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: go to a super Bowl, win a super Bowl, You're 144 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: earning potential is forever. He's like, yeah, that that is true. 145 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: The counter though, is this, what about all the guys 146 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: on those teams that aren't remembered as legends or that 147 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: don't play on a Super Bowl team. That's team. The 148 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: farthest they ever go is in the second round and 149 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: one of those years they get a major injury. Think 150 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: about this Navarro Bowman, who at the time was a 151 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: top five non quarterback in the NFL. His leg was 152 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: snapped in the NFC Championship game against Seattle Seahawks. His 153 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: career was never the same. Ever, he was out of 154 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: the league like two years later, and for his services 155 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: that game, he got fifty six thousand dollars. Yet at 156 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: the time, I think two thirteen is probably making eight 157 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: to ten million dollars a year. So we give these 158 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: guys so much credit, and they play so hard in 159 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs are so intense. They are not compensated properly 160 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: for the playoffs at all. That is something the league 161 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: gets over on them. And I understand the league and 162 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: the players love fighting for days off during the regular season, 163 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: no pads. One of the big things they're fighting for 164 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: right now is typically when training camp starts, Like I 165 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: go to Niners training camp. If you go, if if 166 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: the if the veteran players report July and you show 167 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: up to practice July for the first three days of 168 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: the veterans being there, meaning the whole team is finally 169 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: they're not just the rookies. There are no pads. There 170 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: is a three day kind of you know, slow process 171 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: to ease the guys in that. There's a specific word 172 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: for it. It's not at the top of my tongue, 173 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: tip of my tongue right now, so I don't want 174 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: to say some stupid word that's not the right word. 175 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: But there is a process, and it's a three day 176 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: it's over a three day span. They ease you into it, 177 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: and on the fourth day of practice you put on 178 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: the pads. I read they want to bump that up 179 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: to five and I'm like, the players are fighting for 180 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: all the wrong things. Who cares. The sport of football 181 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: is wearing pads when you fight, when you are heavyweight fighter, 182 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: you spar It's part part of football. You gotta wear paths. 183 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: That's the nature of the sport. To me, the things 184 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: you gotta fight for are the playoff checks are The 185 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: other thing that I was told is during training camp. 186 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: A veteran player gets eight hundred dollars a week, a 187 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: rookie gets a thousand dollars a week. Yet I'm a 188 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: ten million dollar employee. And my counter was, well, isn't 189 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: part of training camp getting ready for the season where 190 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: that incorporates your ten million dollar salary? But if anything, 191 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: I would be like, okay, which, oh, that that might 192 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: be true. Why not fight for ten thousand dollars for 193 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: every veteran a week because I am working? Right? If 194 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: you work, if you get It's complicated because the way 195 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: salary structures work. But the number one thing I would 196 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: tell the players, and I know they know this, and 197 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: especially like Richard Sherman and the guys that are leading 198 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: the charge, they understand this. But for whatever reason, it 199 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: never gets fought for. Stop fighting for days off and 200 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: no pads. Fight for the money because do you know 201 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: what the owners have no problem doing. Yeah, it's no 202 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: paths for five days whatever. Oh yeah, you guys get 203 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: the entire week off during the buy. Oh yeah, you 204 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: can only have ten padded practices during the season. You 205 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: know why they don't care? You know who cares about that? 206 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: The coaches? Do you know what the owner would tell 207 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: the coach, I pay eight million dollars. Figured out. We're 208 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: trying to make more revenue here for everyone. That's the 209 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: reason you guys get paid so much. The players are 210 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: obsessed with days off, acclaimation processes for no pads, uh 211 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: O t A s, non mandatory, all the stuff that 212 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: just the owners are gladly giving them. And they're just 213 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: fighting for more revenue. Fight for if I make the playoffs, 214 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: even if it is a flat rate. Let's say everyone 215 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: makes the same flat rate in the playoffs. It starts 216 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: a five grand and by the time we get to 217 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, it's like one point four million dollars. 218 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: That's what I'd be fighting for. Who gives a ship 219 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: if you got to have an extra practice during the 220 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: during training camp. That's that's something It always bothers me. 221 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: And here's something else that bothers me. The owners are 222 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: screwing the players. That's something you hear all the time. 223 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: Like one ownership right now, because the way society is 224 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: working is almost like frowned upon. I don't know about you. 225 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: Where I come from, every human aspires to own, whether 226 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: it's a home, whether it's a business, whether it's a car. 227 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: Like it's a good thing in this country. Maybe in 228 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: other country's ownership and capitalism are are bad. Where I'm from, 229 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: where most people, I guess we have international listeners. That's 230 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: that's a positive. So if you're looking for me to 231 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: bash capitalism, you're probably listening to the wrong podcast. But 232 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: they owned the team, so I hear this all the 233 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: the players take all the liability. That's not totally true. 234 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: The owners are in charge of negotiating the major television deals, 235 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: which pay for everything they do all that work. They 236 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: then run a network, the NFL Network, which they split 237 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: with the players because the revenue all gets split. Even 238 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: though it's not fifty fifty, it's fifty one to forty eight, 239 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: or forty eight and a half to fifty one and 240 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: a half, whatever it ultimately becomes. Here's the thing though, 241 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: on game day, the players they're definitely you know, risking 242 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: their bodies. We all know that football is a physical sport. 243 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: At any moment, your career can end. What about if 244 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: a guy jumps off the uh the top row at 245 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: Levi Stadium or at the Link or at a T 246 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: and T stadium and falls to his death? Does uh 247 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: does Jimmy Garoppolo or Carson Wentz or Russell Wilson have 248 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: to worry about that. Of course not. They shower and 249 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: they go home. You know this problem that is it's 250 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: that's the Seahawks, that's the Eagles, all the liability in 251 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: a stadium. And if you're listening to this, I think 252 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: it's fair to say you've probably been to an NFL game, 253 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: even if you've just been to one. It's a pretty 254 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: crazy place. You have seventy thousand people in a stadium 255 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: of people don't know each other. Large percentage are males 256 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: that are drinking. So that's boom. You're talking insurance premiums. 257 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: It's it's it's not a risk adverse place. It's a 258 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: pretty risky proposition what they're putting on the teams in 259 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: the league. Take all that risk again. Guy jumps to 260 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: his death, falls to his death, gets beat up, whatever, 261 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: has serious medical issue. That's all on the team. So 262 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: let's stop acting like the owners are just greedy picks. Yeah, 263 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: everyone's greedy this we all want more money. Welcome to reality. 264 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: But here's the other thing. If I'm a partner in 265 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: a law firm and I'm not smart enough to ever 266 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: have gone to law school, But if I had just 267 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: watching movies and reading, you know, books, I guess not 268 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: many books about lawyers, but you know, just mainly watching movies. 269 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: You aspire to become a partner or TV shows. I 270 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: like suits, become a partner in that law firm, right 271 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: or an accounting firm. At one point in time, I thought, 272 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: when I was at cow POULI like my second year, 273 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna become an accountant, I'm gonna work at KPMG, 274 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna become a partner. Thinking about that potential 275 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: life right now, I'd rather do a backflip off the 276 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: Golden gate Bridge into the Pacific. Is being accountant? No 277 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: offensive accountants. I pay mine a lot of money. It's 278 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: just I I need to kind of get up and 279 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: move and I listen. I just talking to him Mike 280 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: for a living. So it's not like I'm mr exciting. 281 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: I just don't think I could have been a great accountant. 282 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm also probably not smart enough. But that if you're 283 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: in a law firm or accounting firm and you become 284 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: a partner, to my knowledge, you're a partner as long 285 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: as you stay there. Now you get benefits when you 286 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: retire whatever. But if you go to another firm or 287 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: quit that firm and go into another industry, I'm pretty 288 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: sure you're not a partner anymore. Right, Well, here's the thing. 289 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: The players and the the owners are tech and the 290 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: teams are partners. But think about the partners the players. 291 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: They're always changing. Unlike the NBA where Lebron James, who's 292 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: you know, a major one of the most famous players 293 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: in the history of the league. He's gonna have a 294 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: twin in year career. That is a long partner. Think 295 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: how many businesses you've been in, even if you're an 296 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: older guy listened to this and I know our demo 297 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: Scuo's younger, But if you're like forty five, have you 298 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: been doing a business partnership for twenty years? That's a 299 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: long time. The majority of NFL players are in and 300 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: out of the league and under four years, so the 301 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: partnership is always turning. So like it. You know, just again, 302 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: this is gonna sound harsh, but the reality the situation 303 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: is owners look a little bit at the players like 304 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: widgets because they're constantly turning over beside the quarterbacks, and 305 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: who are the quarterbacks? The guys paid a premium they're 306 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: not really the ones complaining. There's a reason that Russell 307 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: Wilson and Tom Brady and Drew Brees and Gout and 308 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins aren't leading the charge of the NFL p A. 309 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: They don't care. They're too rich. Life's too good. They 310 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: make a hunter million for you can even blink. So 311 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: I think this notion that the owners are always screwing everybody. 312 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: It is a unique business where your partners slash, your 313 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: labor is turning over at rapid speeds. Here's the other 314 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: element to football. You have enormous costs. Like, oh, the 315 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: NBA players make so much money. You know, they're twelve 316 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: guys on a roster, and for the example the Warriors, 317 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: four guys of the twelve are making money. Everyone else 318 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: is in single digit millions, and a lot of them 319 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: are veteran minimum guys. So once you get a couple 320 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: of max guys, most of you guys don't make much money. 321 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: Baseball double the size of basketball. Still small percentage guys 322 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: are making big money. They're only so many Bryce Harper 323 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: Manny Machado contracts out there, Garrit Cole, It's a small 324 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: percentage of players. The majority of guys make good money, 325 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: make football money, si million dollars. That's if you're good. 326 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: I'd say the majority of guys actually don't make that 327 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: much money, relative not to me and you, but just 328 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: to just professional athletes. So the NFL cost fifty three 329 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: man roster practice squad guys. I would imagine the cb 330 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: A it grows. Think of your travel costs. You you 331 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: charter a jet to a hotel for think how many 332 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: people are on a team, how many people are in 333 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: the hotel, and think how expensive it is to do 334 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: that ten time the year. I guess my ultimate point 335 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: is here is we act like the owners are just 336 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: pocketing all this money. They do reinvest a boatload of 337 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: cash into the team, into the employees, into the coaching staff, 338 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: into their buildings. Now they're cheap ones. The Mike Brown's 339 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: historically the Dean spanos is that somehow is able to 340 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: get a dollar rent from Stan Crocky. But I see 341 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: the Niners, they spend a ton. I would imagine if 342 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: you're a Seahawks fan, you go, you know what, he 343 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: spent a lot of money. Jerry Jones, he's making a lot, 344 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: but he's also spending a lot. I actually think it's 345 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: for the most part in terms of an owner employee 346 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: kind of partner. You know, they can exclaim their partners. 347 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: We all know they're really not. It's a pretty lucrative 348 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: situation for the players. It's pretty good. And when you 349 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: factor in the violence of the sport, there's nothing you 350 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: can do to avoid the injuries. This is not golf. 351 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: Guys are gonna get hurt every game in practice. I'm 352 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: talking devastating injuries. It's a you're literally tackling the other 353 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: guy with a helmet on and shoulder pads with guys 354 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: that run that are the fastest humans in this country. 355 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, I just there's not there's never gonna be 356 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: a perfect solution. Give the players more. The players need 357 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: to fight for more, and if they really want to 358 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: draw a line in the sand, don't be afraid to walk. 359 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: Because I was told and it makes complete sense, the 360 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: owners want to negotiate immediately on the new dv TV contracts. 361 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: Ratings are all time high. They want to strike when 362 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: the iron is hot, and that's why they're so they're 363 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: so aggressive into getting a deal done. And the one 364 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: leverage the players have because at the end of the day, 365 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: as I was told, the player's lack of leverage is 366 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: so many players are so nervous their careers can end 367 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: at any moment. Careers are short, even for good players, 368 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: like a good player can happen eight and hell Louke, Kikley, Navarro, Bowman. 369 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking to top players. Their bodies fail 370 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: them before their thirty. So you've gotta be aggressive and 371 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: take the money. But the owners to negotiate the contracts 372 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: for the television deals with CBS, Fox, you know, etc. 373 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: You have to have labor piece, meaning you have to 374 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: have a deal in place. The Foxes and the CBS 375 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: is are not going to negotiate a deal if there 376 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: is not a long term deal in place. There's just 377 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: these deals are too are worth too much money. I 378 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: can't commit to paying you five billion dollars if we 379 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: might lose a season, Like that's just that can't happen. 380 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: So that's that's the owner's urgency. So the one way 381 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: the players could do is be like, yeah, well let's 382 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: try to talk again in six months. Scare the owners 383 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: and unless they're willing to do it, and in fairness, 384 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: and I completely understand the players side, it's hard because 385 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: unions represent especially a union of the NFL size so 386 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: many players, and the top couple percent of players making 387 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: ten plus million is clearly not the majority. We all 388 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: watch football. The majority of guys on a team making 389 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: under a couple of million or on rookie contracts in 390 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: the fifth, six, seventh, undrafted free a just not making 391 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: much money. And those guys, it's too it's just too 392 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: risky to try to like sit out for big picture. 393 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: What if the next crop of draft picks I'm out 394 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: of the league. So it's a it's a very it's 395 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: a very complicated matter. I really understand both sides. But 396 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: my my only piece of advice is the players have 397 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: to fight from where it really matters and and that's 398 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: the checkbook. Okay, let's uh, let's dive into some topics 399 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: and really quick. I know a lot of you guys 400 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: did it, and I appreciate it. On the Three and 401 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: Out podcast, if you can't just leave a review five stars, 402 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: one star, whatever you feel. If you like the show, 403 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: leave a leave a review, leave a little comments. It 404 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: helps with all this stuff in the podcast world. A 405 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: lot of you guys did it on Apple. You can 406 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: just leave on iTunes, where I think the majority of 407 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: you guys listens is on iTunes. Uh, just just leave 408 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: a little review there. Appreciate everyone that did read them. Uh, 409 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate all the kind words and just uh yeah, 410 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: just just leave a review. Jarvis Landry out six to 411 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: eight months with hip surgery. When I saw he was 412 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: getting hip surgery a couple of days ago or he 413 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: just got a hip surgery, I was like, probably just 414 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: a little off. Sixt eight months. That's a pretty legitimate injury. Now. 415 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: The good thing is he's not a speed guy. He's 416 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: a crafty route run or tough guy over the middle. 417 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: So even if he is a little slower, big picture 418 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't change much. Uh. Still though, six eight months, 419 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: when I when I see that number, I'm like, God, 420 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: that's that's a big I mean, that's we're talking. Is 421 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: this it's almost March? Is he gonna be ready for 422 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: week one? He's one of their better players? Not ideal 423 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: A B I read is gonna go to the combine 424 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: trying to talk with teams. Clearly he desperately wants to 425 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: get back in the league. I still think it's an 426 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: uphill battle. And I'm someone that just I think teams 427 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: and me personally like character that this is not we're 428 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: not teaching life lessons that the NFL it's a business. 429 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: But his office season and really the last six or 430 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: seven months of from the raider situation of the Patriots 431 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: situation to him screaming at his wife that video that 432 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: came out with the police, it's just I don't know, 433 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, that's what it would take for a guy 434 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: of his caliber, and his caliber is one of the 435 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: greatest all time wide receivers we've ever seen. For a 436 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: five year stretch, he's gonna have a hard time getting 437 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: back in. It's just just a fact. And uh, it 438 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: would be interesting if I if I I'm gonna be 439 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: at the combine, so if I see him walking around, 440 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: I'll I'll try to get some video. Jordans Reid. Back 441 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: my last year scouting, I had the tight ends as 442 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: a cross check. And the way it works is scouts. 443 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: You know, if you have a region like you have 444 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: the West, you have the Northwest, you have the Northeast, 445 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: you have the South, you have the Midwest. About this 446 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: time of year, you get a cross check position. So 447 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: maybe you get all the tight ends, maybe you get 448 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: the running backs and slot receivers, maybe you get all 449 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: the defensive lineman and you just kind of cross check 450 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: and I had the tight ends and Jordan read was 451 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: just a fantastic talent, and when he was healthy he dominated. 452 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: But god, he's had how many if I mean it 453 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: feels like fifty concussions? Uh, just just a sad deal. 454 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of the things that kind of 455 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: makes you cringe sometimes about the NFL, as the head injuries. 456 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: And he's he's one of the poster childs of the 457 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: guy that just couldn't avoid him. It was just it 458 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: was always he was always getting concussed. Everson Griffin, who 459 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: I tweeted he became a free agent, he opted out 460 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: of his deal. He'll get more money than Clowney on 461 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: the open market. And then I realized he's thirty two 462 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: years old, So yeah, he probably won't get more money 463 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: than Clowney on the open market. But he's a really, 464 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: really good player. Him and Daniel Hunter. Danail Hunter, you know, 465 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: combined for arguably the best pass rush in the NFL. 466 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: But you know, thirty two years old, how much youre 467 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: willing to pay him? Could he come back? You could 468 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: argue his best place to succeed would still be with 469 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: Minnesota in that scheme was Zimmer allows him to kick 470 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: ass and take names. Did have the thing where he 471 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: kind of lost it a couple of years ago, but 472 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: he he seems to have it all under control now. Uh, 473 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: he'll get some money. Derek Carr their room or swirling, 474 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: and I think we'll really feel it at the combine. 475 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: Is he gonna get traded? Is he on the trading block? 476 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: If they're gonna trade him, who's gonna be their quarterback? Like, 477 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: if they don't get Tom Brady or Philip Rivers, what 478 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: are they gonna do. He's gonna get Jamis Winston, Andy Dalton, 479 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. I think car is better than those guys. 480 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: So would they trade Derek to the Chicago Bears get back? 481 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll have to see, but it feels 482 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of moving parts with the Raiders 483 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: and everything's kind of on the table. Tom Pellisoro tweeted 484 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: or I saw it on Rotor World. That is a 485 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: long shot for Stefan Diggs to get traded this offseason. 486 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: It should be he's, you know, one of their five 487 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: best players, right If Hunters their best player, Dalvin Cook's 488 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: her second best player, little older version of Harrison Smith. 489 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: You know, Diggs is right there. Digs a better player 490 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: than Feeling. The Digs a more explosive player than Feeling. 491 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: If they wanted to trade him, I think they would 492 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: get a first round pick. If I was the Niners, 493 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: I'd give him pick thirty one for Stefan Diggs. He's 494 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: an elite player. Now he's a diva and he'd be 495 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: a pay in the ass, but he's a But he's 496 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: not just elite. Might be strong. He's a really really talented, 497 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: productive player and he factors into winning like you can 498 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: win with him. He's been one of the best players 499 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: on the Vikings over the last four or five years, 500 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: and they kicked ask with him. So I would keep 501 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: Stefan Dicks unless someone offered me like a first and 502 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: second round pick. Then I think I wouldn't even be 503 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: allowed to trade him. But that that's something that it 504 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: would take first might not even get it done. Greg 505 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: Olsen signed with the Seattle Seahawks. You know, what's what's 506 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: the rush to trade to get or sign a guy? 507 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: And people would ask him how does he signed? The 508 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: free agency doesn't start for another month. When you're a 509 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: vested veteran and you get cut, you're not in the 510 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: free agent class. You're just an immediate free agent. Whether 511 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: it happens in February or whether it happens in October, 512 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: you're free to sign wherever you want. He's not on 513 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: the same contract cycle as Jadeveon Clowney in a Mark 514 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: Cooper He was mutually departed, but he was cut, so 515 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: he becomes immediately an understrict free agent. He could sign 516 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: anywhere at any moment. I think they gave him I 517 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: read over five million dollars and guaranteed money. It can 518 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: be up to eight. You know, this guy has been 519 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: hurt a lot. I like Greg Olson, super high character guy, 520 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a great broadcaster. That's a lot of cash, though, 521 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: who are you bidding against the Redskins? Those are the 522 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: ones like that. Those are the type deals that Belichick 523 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: never does. He doesn't get himself in a position where 524 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: you're just kind of over extending yourself for a guy 525 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: that we like Greg Olson, winning player, but he got 526 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: He's available for a reason. He's been hurt a lot, 527 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: and he's old. To me, he's like a two or 528 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: three million dollar player with incentives to get to eight 529 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 1: five million dollars for a team that has a lot 530 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: of money invested into a lot of guys and needs 531 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: to spend on some blue chip talent. That's a lot 532 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: of cash to spend. Now, if he's healthy, Olsen, with 533 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: dis Lee and Hollister, they got three really good tight ends. 534 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: But you notice how I said if healthy Disley is 535 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: coming off a torn achilles. Hollister good player and also 536 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: just injured a lot so it broke his foot multiple times. Uh, 537 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: we'll see, but they have a pretty good tight end 538 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: group again hashtag if healthy. Okay, let's do a couple 539 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: of middlecop mailback questions. Let's dive right in at John 540 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: Middlecoff Instagram, d MS wide open, fire me anything. That's 541 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: how we interact for those of you new to the pod, 542 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: for those of you not shoot me questions. Wanted to 543 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: get your take on if Brady goes to the Cowboys 544 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: for two years and makes it the NFC championship game 545 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: in both and wins the Super Bowl. This is a 546 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: crazy scenario. Would that be enough to separate him from 547 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: Belichick and separate him as a system quarterback? I believe 548 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: at this point in time, no one with any common 549 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: sense calls Brady a system quarterback. I think we all acknowledge, 550 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: even if you hate the Patriots, Brady's great. Belichick is great. 551 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: Now if they do separate in the next month, which 552 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: every day that goes by, I feel becomes more and 553 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: more possible, Yeah, then there would be. If Brady has 554 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: a couple of years and Belichick has a couple of years, 555 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: who has more success the difference Belichick coach for another 556 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: seven Rade. Brady is forty three years old, so there's 557 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: a limit on you know, if he was terrible. Let's 558 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: say it was the opposite. Let's say he went to 559 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and win eight and eight and he sucked. 560 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: He's old, you know. Now if Belichick won the Super 561 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: Bowl with like Jared Stidham or Derek Carr or something, Yeah, 562 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: he's separate for sure. I I put a little bit 563 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: of a red flag. Red flags the wrong word. I 564 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: just I judge Brady a little differently if he leaves 565 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: like the standard, I hold him to moving forward just 566 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: because of his age. Will you be doing a two 567 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: tho draft pod either before or after the draft, excited 568 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: to hear your takes on the next class of rookies. Yeah, 569 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: that you know the great part about the podcast, But 570 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: this in three and Out podcasts and me on Twitter 571 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: and everywhere you find me. My takes never stopped. So 572 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk draft for the next couple of months. 573 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: I'll be at the combine next week when the draft happens, 574 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: I'll have takes that night. The next week, I'll talk 575 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: about it more. We'll just keep on talking about it. 576 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, the Draft podcast is what we call three 577 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: and Out. So we'll be talking draft for the next 578 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: foreseeable future. Love your show and your input, huge Raider fans. 579 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask you, do you think the 580 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: move to Vegas was beneficial or detrimental? Curious to hear 581 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: your points on both sides. I think it was beneficial 582 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: for the Raiders books. They were broke, They had no money. 583 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: The only money Mark David Scott, was from the league. 584 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: The team generated nothing locally, TV ratings nothing, Uh, revenue 585 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: from their stadium nothing because they didn't own it. The 586 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: place was a dump. No suits that they will make 587 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: so much more money now. Granted they owe a lot 588 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: of money. They have a huge note on the stadium. Uh. 589 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: They owe the league like six million dollars for a 590 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: moving fee. But in terms of cash, they'll have way 591 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: more cash than they have now because they have zero 592 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: beside what the league gives them every year. And the 593 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: reality is when you're paying a coach a lot of 594 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: money and a coaching staff a lot of money, and 595 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: players a lot of money, you don't make that much money. 596 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: The reason Jerry Jones and Jed York and Jeffrey Lury, 597 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: it's the stadiums. They pay for everything. Now those guys 598 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: own the stadium or control of the stadium money. It's 599 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: gonna get a little complicated in Vegas, but still way 600 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: better situation than now where it does get a little complicated. 601 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: Is I also think it will help getting free agents. 602 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: No stated income to acts. Vegas is unique. Players in Vegas. 603 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: You know, people like what about the they're gonna be 604 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: with strippers. I lived in Philly. There was a place 605 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: called Delilah's That's where the players hung out. It was 606 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: a strip club. We think players do in Miami or 607 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: Chicago or New York like there. There's stuff to do 608 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: wherever you go. Now, Vegas is probably considered a little 609 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: craze easier, but I think when you live there. When 610 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: I was scouting, I used to go there and just 611 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: stay and I could function no problem, just eat and 612 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: work and it was pretty easy. So I guess the 613 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: negatives are the negatives are just Mark Davis olowns the team. 614 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: You know, as long as he owns the team, I 615 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: think you're a little limited. If you could get your 616 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: next Joe Lacub, Steve Balmer, David Tepper, then I think 617 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: the sky is the limit. But it's it's a big 618 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: unknown for the league. Just what it's gonna look like. 619 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: Are they gonna be good next year? That's my other question. 620 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: If you're not good in Vegas, the one entertainment capital 621 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: of the world, right, will you go there to be entertained? 622 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: You go there to see Celine Dion, You go there 623 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: to see shows. I've actually never seen a show in Vegas. 624 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: You got the Gold Knights got there, they went to 625 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup finals originally immediately you go there to 626 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: go to a casino, You go there, go to sports book. 627 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: Like I've been a lot of Raider games over the 628 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: past decade. A lot of them sucked, and even last 629 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: year they lost to the Jaguars at home. They lost 630 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: to the Jets. Like that, they lose, there's just not 631 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: a very good franchise. They've made the playoffs one time 632 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: in seventeen years. So if they win next year six games, 633 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: Like we all watch bad football sometimes and it's boring. 634 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: It's hard to watch. You better go to Vegas and 635 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: you better win there is It's why Mark Davis wants 636 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. There is tangible pressure on this team to 637 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: get the job done. Can't go to Vegas and be boring. 638 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: It cannot happen. I mean it can because the stadium 639 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: is free, but it can't happen in the sense of 640 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: be bad for business. You gotta be entertaining. That's why 641 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: I think there's tangible pressure right now on Sean McVeigh. 642 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: Like his owners just spent six I don't care if 643 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: his owners were fifteen billions spent six on the stadium. 644 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: You gotta win l A like Vegas, Like it's hard 645 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: to entertain in Vegas. There's so much entertainment in l A. 646 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: People are just apathetic. If your team is not good, 647 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: you gotta get the job done. So I think as 648 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: long as they win, it'll be good. Go Tigers. Huge 649 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: fan of the pot. I've been a die hard l 650 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: s U fan my whole life. So it's easy to 651 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: say this best this best year yet. With most of 652 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: the SEC losing their quarterbacks to the draft, it should 653 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: be a more competitive season. Who is the most intriguing 654 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: team for you this year? Florida is getting a lot 655 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: of noise, but that's typical. Thoughts agree. I think the 656 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: curveball this year is gonna be Texas and M. I 657 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: watched the interview signing day with Jimbo Fisher and he said, 658 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: like the snaps last year were between freshman and red 659 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: shirt freshman. He has crushed it in recruiting these last 660 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: couple of years. So a lot of those guys playing 661 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: are really good. He's won a national championship before. He's uh, 662 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: I think was a Nick Saban called him the best 663 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators ever had. He's had a lot of success 664 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: as a head coach. They're paying him a huge, huge 665 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: amount of money. He's got a lot of talent. Talent 666 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: on the roster. L s U is not gonna be 667 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: as good this year. They lost a ton of guys. 668 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: Quarterback who knows, Bama lost a ton of guys and 669 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: their best quarterback. Uh, Auburn actually should be pretty good. 670 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: Decent amount of guys returning. But a lot of guys 671 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: in that defense, especially the defensive linemen, are going pro. 672 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: Old miss in Mississippi State are going through transitions. Like 673 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: you said, Florida and Georgia on paper always get picked 674 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: have talent. But I'd have to look at A and 675 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: M schedule. I think and I M is gonna be 676 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: pretty good. I would expect A and M to be asleep. 677 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: How about this and M sleeper national championship team. That's 678 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: what I'll my way too early. College football take love. 679 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: Listen to the pod, And since you're following the forty Niners, 680 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: where do you see Jalen Heard. He's a wide receiver 681 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: from Baylor that was a running back at Tennessee's like 682 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: six ft five guy next season in the Niners offense, 683 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: and you think he could help them out on the 684 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 1: revenge tour. I always struggle with young players are hurt. 685 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: You know, he had a stress fracture in his back. 686 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: It would be one thing if you're like, you know, 687 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: he broke his leg going into Week one, never played, 688 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: I'd be like, you know, freak accident. He should be fine. 689 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: He had a stretch fracture in his back. I can't 690 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: even talk stress fracture in his back. That's not a 691 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: random injury, you know. I hope he comes back because 692 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: I've walked by him at the practice field and he 693 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: is huge. A lot of people listening probably watch the 694 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: Niners first preseason game. First preseason game, he trucked the 695 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: due to the goal line. So yeah, I mean he 696 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: definitely could help. I just it's unknown. I always struggle 697 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: with injured young players just because no track record, you know. 698 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. If he's healthy, he's help. 699 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: He helps. If he's healthy, he plays. Um what let 700 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: me see this. If Brady does move and the Raiders 701 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: move off car with the Pats not having a succession plan, 702 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: pick up car for the future or of the franchise. Also, 703 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: who if anyone with the Pats go for a QB 704 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: chased it him, ain't cutting it? Oh because? Oh because 705 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: did him not chased in him? Yeah? I say it 706 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: all the time. I don't know what Belichick likes in 707 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback. We've only seen him draft random guys like 708 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: Matt Castle and Ryan Mallett, and then he drafted Jimmy 709 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: Garrob Lohi, which clearly he loved, but he had to 710 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: get rid of. If Brady leaves, I think everything would 711 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: be on the table. Would he want Car to be 712 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: his franchise quarterback? No? Would he take Car though, to 713 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: be a placeholder? Maybe? I don't think that'd be out 714 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: of the realm and possibility as a Colts fan, and 715 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: as a Colts fan, there are so many different thoughts 716 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: the ways we could go. Love Herbert Easton or get 717 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: Rivers not my favorite. But what about Car? That just 718 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: that depends solely on Brady to Vegas. But still I 719 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: feel Car and Reich are the same guy. Car greater 720 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: than Rivers. To me, probably already have this question and 721 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: no idea how it will shake down. It just seems 722 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: that a better idea to me, Well, the thing with Car, 723 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: Rivers doesn't cost you anything. You just buy Rivers. You 724 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: just pay Rivers twenty million dollars. Derek cost you a 725 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: second round pick if they get Brady or they get 726 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: Tanny Hill, or you know whatever, you gotta trade for 727 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: Derek and give up an asset. Think about Rivers is 728 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: free that way. I mean, he's not free financially, but 729 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: you're gonna be paying quarterbacks anyway. So I actually think 730 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: Rivers be really good in the Dome I think Derek 731 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: would be good for them too. But to get Derek, 732 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to trade for him. And I've talked 733 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: to enough people you probably get a second round pick 734 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: for him. You know, he makes twenty million dollars a year. 735 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: He's under contract for the next three years. You can 736 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 1: cut him in any moment. It's a very very team 737 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: friendly deal. Uh. I'm telling you, I think Rivers has 738 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: one more revenge season in him. I like Rivers to you, guys, 739 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: wish Colin would put you on with him as a 740 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: guest on the hurd sometime. Hopefully I'll get on next 741 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: week at the Combine. We'll see if we can make 742 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: that happen. Do you think the Raiders could try and 743 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: deal Car for picks this season in hopes of getting 744 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: Lawrence or Fields next year? Yeah. I think John's trying 745 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: to win. So John's either going all in for Brady 746 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: or Rivers or He's gonna keep Car and use those 747 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: draft picks to uh to try to win next year. 748 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: They're they're moving into Vegas to win games, so they're 749 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: They're like, to me, the Panthers could tank. You know 750 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: that that would be a team that could tank. That 751 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: the Raiders are not tanking. The winning in Vegas is 752 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: too important. There's too much money on the line that 753 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: there's too much pressure. The States given them this free stadium. 754 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: They can't be what they've been. They have to be 755 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: better there. They just they just have to be better. 756 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: There's no way around it. They have to be better. 757 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: So I think tanking, I mean Gruden wouldn't tank no 758 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: matter what, but definitely this year, I don't. I don't 759 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: think that's an option. Appreciate everyone listening, Keep firing me 760 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: your questions, Enjoy the weekend, and uh if you want 761 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: to follow me on Twitter at John Middlecoff's name as Instagram, 762 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be all over the Combine next week. Inside 763 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: looks at everything going on pretty fired up, bring you 764 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: some interesting angles from the Combine they can't get anywhere 765 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 1: else right here on three Out Podcast. Thanks for listening, 766 00:38:48,880 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: and again, have a have a blessed weekend. Audios s