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Speaker 2: What's going on, buddy?

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Speaker 2: Man? Been a minute? Did you grow another foot? Or why.

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Speaker 3: Man, ready to get rolling.

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful thing as we get ready for a

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Speaker 2: full day of action. There's action on the links. We've

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Speaker 2: got soccer, We've got NBA, NHL playoffs, Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 2: I open up my Twitter right because I got to

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Speaker 2: do the t's over at Fox Sports Radio at Swollen

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Speaker 2: Dome is where you find me. And one of the

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Speaker 2: things that's trending is family matters. And for a minute,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what happened to Reginald bel Johnson. I'm like, oh, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it's more of the the Drake stuff. And so I

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Speaker 2: had to catch myself up on that Ryan a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You know, he took a day off, and you miss

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Speaker 2: a lot when it comes to pop culture and the

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Speaker 2: chaos that ensues. But one thing I did not miss

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Speaker 2: was game one of these next Western Conference playoffs and

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Speaker 2: the Anthony Edwards Show, which if you've been paying attention

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Speaker 2: to the NBA all year, you've watched him grow, You've

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Speaker 2: watch the Rise of the Tea Wolves. But if you're

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Speaker 2: nude to and just getting acclimated to things because it's

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Speaker 2: playoff time, welcome aboard because you've got to see something special.

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Speaker 2: And I like that we got already into the morphing

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Speaker 2: of his face into anything happen to do with Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 2: It happens fast. Ryan, we got to annoint the next.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, it doesn't hurt that his game matches

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Speaker 3: the look. And you know what, it's funny, it's clearly

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Speaker 3: a familiar face, but he does have the resemblance. I

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Speaker 3: think we would love if that story was. You know,

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Speaker 3: Michael made a mistake somewhere. I'm sure his mother and

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Speaker 3: father are somewhere cringing every time they hear that. Sure,

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Speaker 3: but I mean it's gold because the league is starved

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Speaker 3: for the next face of the NBA, and I think selfishly,

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Speaker 3: we get it. Finally, Lebron James is gonna have to

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Speaker 3: slow down. Lebron James can no longer keep I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's unbelievable. And I think just as much as people

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Speaker 3: cringe when they see Lebron succeed, as many haters are

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Speaker 3: out there, they know, Okay, we're gonna have to pass

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Speaker 3: the torch to somebody. And Anthony Edwards right now is

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Speaker 3: looking like the guy. And what I'm hearing from all

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Speaker 3: of the former players, the ogs, the ones who throw

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Speaker 3: out the respect, is they want someone with that that

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Speaker 3: killer instinct. They want someone with the trash talk, the

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Speaker 3: trash talk that gets backed up. They want somebody that's

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Speaker 3: that's edgy. They want somebody that can jump, and with

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Speaker 3: all due respect, they want somebody like Jordan and Anthony

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Speaker 3: Edwards that just looks like him. He has a similar game.

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Speaker 3: He's a two guard that shoots the mid range and

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Speaker 3: can fly and you know it's crazyboy, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I know you feel like this Mike. There's levels where

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Speaker 3: he jumps higher than Mikes double right where he's even

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Speaker 3: and Mike was a specimen like rookie Michael Jordan. I

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Speaker 3: think rookie young third year Michael Jordan was built like

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Speaker 3: this dude to tank.

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Speaker 2: Well you look at it. I think Ryan. One of

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Speaker 2: the things, and we've talked about it coming into these

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Speaker 2: playoffs is just the changing of the guard is is

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Speaker 2: always uneasy and for the NBA to suddenly have you know,

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Speaker 2: whatever you think of Kevin Durant, whether it was he

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Speaker 2: just latched on to the Warriors and whatever, he was

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Speaker 2: still the MVP of those finals both years and has

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Speaker 2: had one hell of a career. But he's out of

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Speaker 2: the playoffs as well as anybody that's attached themselves to him.

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Speaker 2: You've got Lebron James, We've got plenty on the Lakers

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Speaker 2: as we go forward, and like Lebron, at times, we'll

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Speaker 2: do things and say things that certainly bring the derision.

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Speaker 2: But it ties back to the Michael thing right there

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Speaker 2: get tired of stuff. They want to see something new.

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Speaker 2: You appreciate it to a degree. I was like this

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Speaker 2: guy again, and so that's when we get into some

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Speaker 2: of those discussions about, you know, the the love hate

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Speaker 2: relationship keep going. The Warriors are out of the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: so you're trying to figure out who's going to be

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Speaker 2: that next guy or next team that's going to captivate

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Speaker 2: the imagination and have some staying power, because yes, we

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Speaker 2: do get tired of it. The Warriors were another great

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Speaker 2: example of it. Wow, they're changing the game. It's like

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Speaker 2: a damn it. Now everybody's shooting three pointers. They changed

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Speaker 2: the game, jerks, and now we're mad at them all

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Speaker 2: these years later. So that happens quickly, right. The expiration

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Speaker 2: data is like leaving your milkout. The same thing. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna accelerate things a little bit along the way, and

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Speaker 2: for Anthony Edwards and for Minnesota. Right when was the

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Speaker 2: last time we talked about Minnesota where we were having

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Speaker 2: commercials that featured Kevin Garnett and Stefan Marbury.

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Speaker 3: So there's so many similarities for May Edwards game and

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Speaker 3: even the ways it's funny as you bring up Minnesota

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Speaker 3: and the way they're built. That's like old school traditional basketball, right,

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Speaker 3: Like he doesn't cat's a great player, but he's he's

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Speaker 3: like a clear like like the second best. You get

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Sure, you got a lot of size there,

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Speaker 3: you got defenders on the team. And then it's kind

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Speaker 3: of like Anthony Edwards just go score, go score, like

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Speaker 3: they're built for him to score forty. Okay, it's not

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Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors moved to basketball. You got twenty, you

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Speaker 3: got twenty, you got that, Like this is Anthony Edwards.

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Speaker 3: Go score? Like people want Michael? Am I wrong? Like

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Speaker 3: as much as people scream for we want something different,

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Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards is is the mold of Michael. It's the mold.

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Speaker 3: There's enough similarity there there. They're asking for the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of it comes back to

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Speaker 2: we want to talk about team after somebody loses, right,

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Speaker 2: right after somebody loses. Well, this wasn't constructed, right, this

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Speaker 2: wasn't great.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: We heard a lot about that with the Clippers and

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Speaker 2: whatever else. The roster was ill, ill constructed, and of

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Speaker 2: course you know with the Lakers you get the extra

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Speaker 2: Lebron residual stuff that flows out of there. But we

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Speaker 2: talk about roster construction after the fact. In the moment,

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Speaker 2: you want individual greatness because that's what this game has

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Speaker 2: been predicated on for as long as I've been alive,

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Speaker 2: and certainly for you you're younger than I am. Man, what

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Speaker 2: have you watched the end of everybody telling you about

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Speaker 2: the magic and Bird and doctor j Era, maybe a

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Speaker 2: little bit of Kareem at his end, but then it

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Speaker 2: goes straight into Michael and then the league has done

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Speaker 2: whatever it can to promote the individual superstar. Left and right. Man,

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Speaker 2: the Spurs were great. Nobody talks about how good Tim

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Speaker 2: Dunk was. He gets more talk for showing up in

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Speaker 2: does for anything he ever did on a court. Davitski,

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Speaker 2: he showed up in the studio. He got more love

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Speaker 2: I think he's gotten for what was one of the

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it's that kind of thing,

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Speaker 2: like we don't talk about those teams like they're one offs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was talking with it with Ian r

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Speaker 2: Our producer this morning, and Mark before he left, our

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Speaker 2: technical brucher Chris Prefett in the chair with us this morning,

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Speaker 2: you know, just talking about when we look at teams

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Speaker 2: the window. Right. I heard Andy and Bucky talking about

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark and WNBA and you moving the needles, and

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Speaker 2: we'll get into a cool social media story that came

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Speaker 2: What we were talking about. We're talking about individuals. Right,

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Speaker 2: Here's Caitlin Clark, there's Juju Watkins, there's Angel Reese and

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Speaker 2: then South Carolina one. They're a great team. Don Staley's

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Speaker 2: a great coach, but you're not talking about them the

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Speaker 2: same way they are the women's college basketball version of

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Speaker 2: the Spurs. You appreciate it, celebrate it, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think the individuals get necessarily the love that they would deserve.

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Speaker 3: Now you're you're right. You know it's funny to me,

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Speaker 3: m and always and as you talk about it. We

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Speaker 3: just mentioned it with Michael and you know why everybody's

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Speaker 3: so big on Anthony Edwards. The team is constructed for

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Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards to just shoot an abundance of shots. I

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Speaker 3: don't want to not going to call it, Michael, look

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Speaker 3: fair because their job is to score.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that fine line. I know exactly where you're

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Speaker 3: Their job is to unapologetically score. Okay, and all that.

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Speaker 3: People are gonna care because there are moments with Anthony

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Speaker 3: Edwards with a due respect, and they're built like this

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Speaker 3: where he can be inefficient, right because he's easy going

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Speaker 3: and he's scoring, and he's so much more. And our

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Speaker 3: job here is to make you smart. So when you

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Speaker 3: watch Minnesota, for the most part, Anthony Edwards is gonna

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Speaker 3: chill in the first half, He's gonna take whatever shots

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Speaker 3: come to him. In third quarters, he lights up. Oh

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Speaker 3: it's time. It is Anthony Edward. He lights up and

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Speaker 3: you'll see him all of a sudden, he starts bringing

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Speaker 3: the ball up court, he starts shimmying, he starts getting excited,

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Speaker 3: and it is it is Anthony Edwards time. Okay, so

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Speaker 3: that's that's different. It took Kobe a while in his

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Speaker 3: great scores. It's it's a game plan and they do

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Speaker 3: that now. Point is, the points are applauded, the team

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Speaker 3: play is not applauded. Lebron James, why a lot of

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Speaker 3: you would never see him as a goat for maybe

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Speaker 3: many reasons other than this is the one thing that

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Speaker 3: he's never gonna get respect for is the way that

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Speaker 3: he passes the basketball. The average fan will not look

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Speaker 3: at Lebron and say, and I'm not trying to have

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Speaker 3: to don't debate. Don't get me wrong here, just talking

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Speaker 3: to Anthony Edwards. I'm talking the next face of the league.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking that little butter the little butterflies you fill

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Speaker 3: in your stomach when you see Anthony Edwards. Lebron James

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Speaker 3: was a passer. He's not gonna excite you the same

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Speaker 3: way that Anthony Edwards is because Michael Jordan was such

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Speaker 3: big players are getting phase out of the NBA. I

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Speaker 3: think what's gonna happen is the big players are going

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Speaker 3: to become more and more skilled.

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Speaker 2: Well, look at Victor, right, we talk about Ween Binyama.

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Speaker 2: We went deep into this conversation and mean, there's a

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Speaker 2: guy seven to four who runs the floor about as

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Speaker 2: well as anybody right now, right, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's hyperbole and me just wanting to be you know,

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Speaker 2: the hey, let's jump on the next greatness bandwagon to

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Speaker 2: say after watching him in his rookie year, and yes,

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Speaker 2: they did not have a lot of team success. You

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Speaker 2: rebuild around him, but you'd be hard pressed not to

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Speaker 2: already start looking as a top ten guy as an individual. Oh,

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Speaker 2: he's what he does on both ends of the court.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have Anthony Edwards on one end and Wimby

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Speaker 3: Yama on the other end, and Mike my opinion, he

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Speaker 3: has over exceeded expectations And hats off to san Antonio

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Speaker 3: because I felt like san Antonio was very calculated in this.

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Speaker 3: They wanted to make sure that the height was gone

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Speaker 3: around Wimby. And as the draft builds up, as Wimby

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Speaker 3: was came in, everybody wants to say, he's Lebron, He's this,

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Speaker 3: he's that, he's all, he's all these things right, and

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Speaker 3: how's he gonna fair? What is? And san Antonio was like, no,

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Speaker 3: he's just he's just a guy. And we're gonna be

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Speaker 3: conservative this year. We're gonna be this, this and this,

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Speaker 3: and he he quietly this is one of the most

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Speaker 3: This is one of the most amazing quiet seasons that

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Speaker 3: I had ever seen played. He quietly, I mean just

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Speaker 3: went berserk. He I mean quietly. Wimby absolutely was enough.

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Speaker 3: I mean this was something that we had not seen,

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Speaker 3: and I mean ever seen. This was this is unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: I mean every game and it's the great Sean Elliott

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Speaker 3: when we went down there, got to play, got to see,

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Speaker 3: got to see the spurs, said Sean, you know what

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Speaker 3: is he that good? What's the you know, what's the

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Speaker 3: deal with him? He said, Ryan. Every time I see

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Speaker 3: him play, every time he touches the floor, you will

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Speaker 3: see something that you have never seen done in the

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Speaker 3: game of basketball. You will see something that has never

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Speaker 3: been done in the game of basketball, ever been seen.

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Speaker 3: All the rules, everything that you thought was possible is

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Speaker 3: no longer possible when you see this guy play. So really, Sean,

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Speaker 3: that's it. That's those are the big words. And you know,

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Speaker 3: the old school, older players, they don't just jump on

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Speaker 3: the hype. They don't believe. They don't believe. And every

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Speaker 3: time I seen Victor play, he has done something that

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Speaker 3: I had never seen possible in the game of basketball.

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Speaker 3: There are possessions, as we talked about earlier, ore Au

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Speaker 3: or the dad stuff comes out and Mike you feel it.

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Speaker 3: We said, there's a difference between the JV and the varsity.

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Speaker 3: We're seeing things that you only see in kids basketball.

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Speaker 3: You're seeing NBA grown men dribble to the basketball and

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Speaker 3: not want to shoot the ball with Wimbayama in the vicinity.

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Speaker 3: You're seeing a three on one fast break in today's

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Speaker 3: NBA where guys are dribbling the ball out and saying no, no, no, no, no, dude,

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Speaker 3: shoot the ball anywhere near him, because if you shoot

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Speaker 3: the bonny where near him, he's gonna block it. You're

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Speaker 3: gonna put your your your shot in the stands. Dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that range is ridiculous. Right, You relax for a

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Speaker 2: second and he's up on you. You Well, he had

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Speaker 2: the glory that unless you had the the NBA package,

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Speaker 2: they weren't good enough to crack the rotation, no matter

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Speaker 2: how good he was, especially when you have the rise

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Speaker 2: of Minnesota and the force feeding on the west coast

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Speaker 2: of the Portland Trailblazers. But that's my own lamentation for

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Speaker 2: what I was forced to watch with great regularity here

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Speaker 2: in the studios alongside Jason Smith, not to mention his

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Speaker 2: insufferable Nick's self. We'll get into them a little bit

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Speaker 2: later on, but what do we take away from game one?

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Speaker 2: For me, it was the I mean obviously Edwards, but

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Speaker 2: you mentioned the defense of this squad before Ryan. They look,

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Speaker 2: Jokic got his numbers, but tell me that first half

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Speaker 2: they didn't make those guys look really uncomfortable. Some good

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Speaker 2: adjustments and obviously it's a game late. They rally back

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Speaker 2: from that huge early deficit, right because the t Wolves

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Speaker 2: put it to him in the first Murray goes scoreless

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Speaker 2: for a half and go on down the line. But

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Speaker 2: it really was it looked like that offense had to

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Speaker 2: be sped up because of the length, because of the

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Speaker 2: tenacity on the defensive end.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about it earlier. Minnesota has the bodies

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Speaker 3: that throw at Jokic and we haven't seen teams be

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Speaker 3: able to match up. I mean, in the in the

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Speaker 3: finals last year. I mean it was embarrassing. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he was he was backing the Miami Heat under the

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Speaker 3: rim and just just scooting to shooting two foot layps.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he made the game look so easy. It

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Speaker 3: was it was honestly, it was. It was embarrassing and

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Speaker 3: with him being able to do that, I mean, it

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Speaker 3: puts you in a situation you're like, man, something has

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Speaker 3: to be changed. And I want to say, this is

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Speaker 3: the most uncomfortable Nicola has looked in the playoffs. But

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Speaker 3: they've got the bodies to throw out them. And normally,

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Speaker 3: you know when when you see Rudy on the other side,

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Speaker 3: it's just Rudy versus Nakola one on one, but they

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Speaker 3: are throwing cat at him there, throwing noos red, they're physical.

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Speaker 3: And then you got guys like McDaniel's on the backside,

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Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards that can get physical with the wings of

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Speaker 3: the of the of the Timberwolves. But it's the size

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Speaker 3: that stands out to me. And obviously you're not gonna

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Speaker 3: shut out Nicola, but you know, being able to match

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Speaker 3: up pound for pound because again, a lot of times

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Speaker 3: the niggas don't get credit. They're just bigger than imposing teams.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon is physically man, He's as big as the

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Speaker 3: old school power forward and he jumps out the gym.

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Speaker 3: He is a physical player. And to me, that's one

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Speaker 3: of the big things that I'm seeing man being able

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Speaker 3: to just you guys are going great guys that are

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Speaker 3: gonna get their numbers. But people have not been able

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Speaker 3: to match up with Nicola. They have not.

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Speaker 2: We've got a fun one and certainly our boss Scott Shapiro,

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Speaker 2: between the twins twelve game winning streak and this, he's wondering, well,

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Speaker 2: what is the shoe to drop? He's right allins, Oh

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Speaker 2: my garment. Here Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Time

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Speaker 2: to turn our attention to a man who's all knowing

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Speaker 2: man with stats, figures and quips for days. It's our guy,

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Speaker 2: Isaac Low and cron Isaac lower Crown on Twitter. What's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 7: I love Good morning Mike, Good morning Ryan. And indeed

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Speaker 7: we do start with Game one of the NBA's Western

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Speaker 7: Conference semi Finals on Saturday night, as the Minnesota Timberwolves

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Speaker 7: stole Game one on the road at Denver, what oh

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Speaker 7: six to ninety nine. On the story Anthony Edwards pouring

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Speaker 7: in a playoff career high forty three points. Edwards has

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Speaker 7: been so good he is actually causing marital problems. After

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Speaker 7: Game one, some guy named Nate tweeted, and I quote, Hi, Nate,

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Speaker 7: Anthony Edwards is making me feel things no one ever

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Speaker 7: has unquote. A woman named Tyra replied and I quote,

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Speaker 7: oh parentheses, this is my husband unquote.

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Speaker 2: Good luck to Nate.

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Speaker 7: We'll try and follow up on how he's doing after

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Speaker 7: that perhaps reckless tweet.

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Speaker 2: What did did Tyra take the challenge? I mean, what

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Speaker 2: happened there? Pats On? What would be by tap?

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Speaker 3: What do you think ry? I said? Oh?

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Speaker 7: Really, perhaps Nate was playing the long game.

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Speaker 2: Is what you're saying.

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Speaker 7: Go exactly a bit of a goblet laid down if

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Speaker 7: you will, you know what. I'm going to follow both

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Speaker 7: of them on social media and see where this story goes.

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Speaker 7: In the Stanley Cup playoffs. On Saturday night, the Boston

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Speaker 7: Bruins won Game one, Game seven of their opening round

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Speaker 7: series over the Toronto Maple Leafs that overtime, two to one,

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Speaker 7: as Boston's David Posterno scored the series winner a minute

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Speaker 7: and fifty four seconds into ot and Major League Baseball

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Speaker 7: on Saturday night, Max Munsey hit three home runs as

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Speaker 7: his Los Angeles Dodgers to beat at the Atlanta Braves

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Speaker 7: eleven to two. The San Diego Padres won an Arizona

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Speaker 7: thirteen to one. Luisa Rise went four to six in

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Speaker 7: his San Diego debut. Finally, earlier Saturday, Mysstic Dan won

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Speaker 7: the one hundred and fiftieth Kentucky Derby in a photo

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Speaker 7: finish over Sierra Leone. Here's what Mystic Dan had to

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Speaker 7: say after his glory. This trip past the blunt Oops, sorry,

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Speaker 7: how about that long rong glorious trip back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean a little decompression and self medication after a

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Speaker 2: hard fought victory. Thanks Hylo. At Isaac Lowan Crown. He's

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Speaker 2: also the voice of Angel City FC A big game

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Speaker 2: on Friday this past week. You know, I got my

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Speaker 2: finger on the pulse and I stalk him on social

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Speaker 2: media as well. At Isaac Lowan Crown find Ryan at

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Speaker 2: the Ryan Hollinds find me over at Swollendome and coming

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Speaker 2: up next, you can just point to the sky. They

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Speaker 2: will lead the way. We'll tell you what that's all about.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next here on Fox.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Go to little old school here, Annie, beautiful Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you being with us. It's Ryan Hollins with me.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mike Carmen. Thanks for being part of the family.

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00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: Got Isaac, we got Ian, We got Chris making a

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Speaker 2: sound so pretty all the information and tunes that you're

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Speaker 2: hearing over the course of the day, so Ryan, in

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Speaker 2: parallel with the fun and excitement of the NBA playoffs,

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Speaker 2: we've got the first exhibition games thus far for the WNBA.

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Speaker 2: A lot of excitement, people monitoring the price of tickets

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Speaker 2: on the secondary market, and all that fun stuff when

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Speaker 2: you get down to it. But not every game is

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Speaker 2: being televised and necessarily the same free flowing way that

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Speaker 2: you know you've come to expect in league passes and

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Speaker 2: all of that stuff. So the other night you had

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Sky and Minnesota Lynx get after it and

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Speaker 2: there was no television, which doesn't make a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of sense. Cardoso and Angel Reese making their first appearances,

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Speaker 2: although after watching the press conference and set up they

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Speaker 2: had for Angel Reese, I'm still kind of scratching my head.

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Speaker 2: I don't need to, you know. The city of Chicago

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Speaker 2: they got enough issues, although they finally won an NBA

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Speaker 2: or an NFL draft, at least in theory with the

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams arrival. But someone on Twitter decided, well, I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna start live streaming this thing. They were sitting

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Speaker 2: around center court and they've got over two hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: people to tune in and watch some of that game.

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Speaker 2: Ryan the age of the w NBA, at least in

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Speaker 2: these exhibition moments, we've arrived on a different scale and

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Speaker 2: now it becomes the how do we capitalize and push forward?

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Speaker 2: But normally they shut you down when you got live

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Speaker 2: streams like that, although I suppose that's usually UFC, WWE

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Speaker 2: and other events that they want you on the pay

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Speaker 2: per view. So maybe an exemption here or maybe some

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Speaker 2: theory testing as to how big this could get as

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Speaker 2: another outlet for the games.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think you got to be excited and listen.

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Speaker 3: Demand gets big enough, they're gonna have to fix some

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Speaker 3: things with the WNBA. And I think you love it.

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing. For every sport, it takes personalities.

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Speaker 3: It's entertainment. It takes a name that you know, it

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Speaker 3: takes a household name. And for those who may not

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Speaker 3: know what Mike, you remember these times. Hey, it was

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Speaker 3: the competition between Larry Bird and Magic Johnson that took

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Speaker 3: the NBA to another level. Then he went from there

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Speaker 3: and Michael Jordan. We don't just applaud him as the goal.

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Speaker 3: We don't just applaud him as as a guy who

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Speaker 3: won championships. He grew the league exponentially. The league just

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Speaker 3: took off under Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant maintained the

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Speaker 3: torch Lebron James grew the league. He's gonna have to

643
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Speaker 3: get credit for that, for what he's done and where

644
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Speaker 3: the league has gone during his time and run in

645
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Speaker 3: the NBA. But ultimately, at the end of the day,

646
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Speaker 3: we bring that out because of Caitlin Clark, because of

647
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Speaker 3: Angel Reese. Are those two going to be the names

648
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Speaker 3: that take the w NBA to the next level where

649
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Speaker 3: they're going, Hey man, we're making this money, We're getting

650
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Speaker 3: this no variety of this TV packages here because of

651
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Speaker 3: what they had been able to do. They are household names.

652
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Speaker 3: The way that they transformed the game of college This

653
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Speaker 3: was the women's college basketball this year, Mike. You know this.

654
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Speaker 3: They they outrated you know, the NBA, NFL. I mean,

655
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Speaker 3: they were absolutely box office during that time, and they

656
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Speaker 3: did numbers. And the challenge is are those same numbers

657
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Speaker 3: going to roll over to the w NBA. Are change

658
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Speaker 3: is gonna be made? You know? Streaming wise, are they

659
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Speaker 3: gonna get more TV games. Where do they stand?

660
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Speaker 2: Well, the beauty of it is, you know, and to

661
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: back it out, it's like your imprint has been small. Right,

662
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: go back to the NBA. Think about when Magic and

663
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: Bird came in. Your NBA Finals were on tape delay

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Speaker 2: after the late local news and nightlibe. Right, is all right?

665
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Speaker 2: Now at midnight, here's game three. I mean that's where

666
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Speaker 2: the NBA was, And now what is it? A ten

667
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Speaker 2: billion dollar?

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Speaker 5: Ye?

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Speaker 2: Your business estimated add some asterisks for some fuzzy accounting,

670
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Speaker 2: But for the WNBA, the last math I still saw

671
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: is that it was a two hundred million dollar business.

672
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Speaker 2: That's that's a huge gap, quite obviously, but there's room

673
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Speaker 2: for growth and a thirst for it that you know,

674
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: you've got a different generation and how you consume things.

675
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: Add the fact that, well it's another thing we can

676
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 2: bet on, so you're going to be able to get

677
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Speaker 2: that market in let's not let's call it what it

678
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Speaker 2: is when you can. Even during the NCAA tournament for

679
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: the women's we started seeing a lot of discussions on

680
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Speaker 2: point total over unders in some of those matchups, et cetera.

681
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: Here in Los Angeles, they're hoping you know that Cameron

682
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: Brink can become a star, right, the Steph Curry ties

683
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: there and everything else, But it's it's the idea that

684
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Speaker 2: even if you have massive growth on a percentage basis,

685
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: it may not be the exciting numbers that people are

686
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Speaker 2: looking for in terms of rating share and overall market.

687
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Speaker 2: But by the same token, NBA ratings on a night

688
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: to night basis aren't exactly you know through the roof, right,

689
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: they're good, but it's a new world order in terms

690
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Speaker 2: of what constitutes good ratings for live television and look,

691
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: sports is always going to be the last bastion because

692
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Speaker 2: you're gonna have to sit through some advertisement to get

693
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Speaker 2: to quarter four to see what Edwards and Jokic are

694
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: doing for you or in this case, Caitlin Clark is

695
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: she's still get getting forward. And something I think happened

696
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Speaker 2: with the Iowa squad as well Ryan that helped ratings

697
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: is you started to get people that were not just

698
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Speaker 2: the old head WNBA players. I wait to see her

699
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Speaker 2: on the next level. It was the all right, they're

700
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 2: waiting for her to fail. Hate watching is a real

701
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: thing in our sports watching society. It's part of the

702
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: Lebron James and why everything is so magnified. A lot

703
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Speaker 2: of excitement what's he gonna do next? But on the

704
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Speaker 2: same token, how's he gonna fail? The private parts discussion

705
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: of ratings for Howard Stern back in the day. There

706
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Speaker 2: you go aging myself truly, but it was I can't

707
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Speaker 2: wait to see what he's gonna do next. People that

708
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Speaker 2: hate him listen twice as long why I can't wait

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00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: to see what he's gonna do next? Same thing here.

710
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: You start getting that build up. That's the best thing

711
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: you can possibly ask for in the sport because you

712
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: start getting opinion makers to dive in. They may not

713
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: have a clue as to what they're saying, although a

714
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Speaker 2: lot of the guys that get paid the two commas

715
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: don't really seem to watch any sports anymore anyway, So

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Speaker 2: you know, I'll leave that there.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's controversial because he hadn't seen it before, and

718
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Speaker 3: you talked earlier about Michael and Kobe. Kobe wasn't controversial

719
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Speaker 3: because you saw Kobe and Michael. Lebron's controversial because we've

720
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Speaker 3: seen anybody do it for that long. Hey, he doesn't

721
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Speaker 3: conduct it himself as we would assume his greatness is

722
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Speaker 3: and for the way that Caitlynkark plays. You hadn't seen

723
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Speaker 3: that success. You hadn't seen a name like that in college.

724
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Speaker 3: You hadn't seen it transfer over. She's a Steph Curry.

725
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Speaker 3: So many people did not believe in Steph Curry. You know,

726
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Speaker 3: I was taught in my time in the NBA that

727
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Speaker 3: rebounds the defense win championships.

728
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Speaker 2: All those years ago, and then they changed the game.

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Speaker 2: All right, you mentioned Lebron, We got to talk about

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Speaker 2: the Lakers. Darvin Ham railroaded question mark.

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Brother?

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Speaker 2: That was a fast first hour, man. We covered a

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Speaker 2: lot of grounds. I think we spoke some wisdom into

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Speaker 2: the universe. And now we'll try to do it again.

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Speaker 3: It was so fast, I mean I didn't even realize

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Speaker 3: it in like an hour already.

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Speaker 2: No, that's it. And speaking wisdom on this NBA game,

757
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Speaker 2: we get more playoff action a little bit later on

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Speaker 2: a game seven. How about that? A Game seven Orlando

759
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Speaker 2: Magic and the Cleveland Cavaliers. I picked the Calves to

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00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 2: go to the uh. You know, because we decided around

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00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 2: here Ryan, that we generally don't go chalk with our picks.

762
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Speaker 2: I go, I'll go a little off the grid. And

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Speaker 2: now the Cavaliers are on the brink of extinction.

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Speaker 3: Hey man. For one, we're glad we're getting a game seven.

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00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: Always yeah, home court advantage, that's a that's a big thing.

766
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Speaker 3: And I think my disappointment is that I thought for Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: I thought experience went out. I thought this was, you know,

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Speaker 3: their moment. It got Donovan Mitchell, who'd been there before

769
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Speaker 3: for Orlando. This is a lot of first They're both

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Speaker 3: very constructed, very similar. I've got history work with JB.

771
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 3: Bickerstaff three times, coach Jamal Mosley, defensive mind to throw

772
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Speaker 3: back boxes and elbows team, they like to take care

773
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Speaker 3: of the paint first. But I just I didn't think.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised with Paul and those guys that they are

775
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: having this much success this early. And I think for Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: if they end up losing this, I don't want to

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00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: say they blow things up, but I want to say

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00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: there's going to be, you know, be some changes. This

779
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: was a series they should have been able to win.

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Speaker 2: Now let's go back. You got Game four, Franz Wagner

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00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: with the elbow to Jared Allen and he's not been

782
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Speaker 2: in since two and a half. Is the spread on

783
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Speaker 2: this one? Cleveland the home favorite, about one ninety four

784
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 2: and a half the total, But midway through the third

785
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Speaker 2: quarter of that game. Four. Man, you're talking about a

786
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Speaker 2: guy who's whated sixteen and ten that's suddenly out of

787
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Speaker 2: the middle and out of the mix. So on the

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Speaker 2: injury report for game seven and it's Dicey. I haven't

789
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Speaker 2: seen any true update. He's still listed as questionable with

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Speaker 2: the rib contusion.

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00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that'll be a big factor. But you know

792
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 3: sometimes that injuries like that can help out. The reasonably

793
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Speaker 3: why I can say that they end up helping out

794
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: is because what happens is, you know, you go smaller,

795
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Speaker 3: you change up, you know how fast you play, Mobiley

796
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: slides over to the center position. Those two don't conflict

797
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Speaker 3: with each other, and you know, it could be a

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Speaker 3: big thing. It could end up helping them out in

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Speaker 3: the long run. So I'm interested to see how that

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Speaker 3: works out. But I mean, listen, Game sevens, there's nothing

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Speaker 3: like them. A lot of times more than not, you

802
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Speaker 3: give the credit to the home team, And I think

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Speaker 3: in this situation, you're gonna have to roll with the

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Speaker 3: home team just because these two have not had a

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Speaker 3: lot of playoff success. And you know what happens. Role

806
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 3: players play better at home, and you're gonna have. That's

807
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Speaker 3: where you're gonna have to lean.

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Speaker 2: We look at Suggs and Bunco who you mentioned before,

809
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: a couple of other young stars. So the kids are

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00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: all right, as it were, But let's go back to

811
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Speaker 2: the veterans, because, let's face it, the as much as

812
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: folks maybe bemoan the idea of, hey, let's talk Lakers again,

813
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: they're the story outside of the playoffs based on Lebron's

814
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Speaker 2: comments refusing to comment on his future, and we've played

815
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Speaker 2: that a little bit, so we'll just move past it

816
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: here for the sake of time. But you know, the

817
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: uncertain offseason. He's got the player player option, what is

818
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Speaker 2: it fifty one and a half million dollars there about,

819
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: and now we're talking about three years max deal for him.

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Speaker 2: You got Anthony Davis and a lot of questions of

821
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Speaker 2: the roster construction. But one thing that is certain is

822
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Speaker 2: the Lakers are in line for another head coach. And

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Speaker 2: I know you talked about it with Jason Smith in

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Speaker 2: my stead on Friday night, But for those who weren't listening,

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Speaker 2: I was off, you know, gallivanting and enjoying a little

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Speaker 2: time with my daughters and the others. It's a topic

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Speaker 2: welcome in for folks that only get us on a

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning. Ryan, was it inevitable given the last couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks and the public comments and histrionics of James

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Speaker 2: and Anthony Davis directed towards there? Now, former head coach.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Lebron knows how to end the season

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Speaker 3: with some controversy. You know, of course, he's been seizoned

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Speaker 3: enough and he's smart enough to also know his value.

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes in sports, a lot of guys that

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Speaker 3: don't know their value, you know, you kind of you

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Speaker 3: just kind of go about, and Lebron knows how to

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Speaker 3: create that that kind of Oh, he knows, he knows

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Speaker 3: that he's how to put it. He knows those people

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Speaker 3: that hate him they secretly love him. They want to

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00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 3: see him. So as soon as he just throws out, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if this year is gonna work for me.

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Speaker 3: You know that excitement's gonna be there, Lebron also knows, Hey,

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00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 3: you know what, I need some leverage. You want to know,

844
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Speaker 3: I because I plan on my son playing with me.

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Speaker 3: I want an opportunity for my son to play with me.

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Speaker 3: And if I go out and not create the no no, no, Lebron,

847
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Speaker 3: we need you to stay. You mean so much, you

848
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 3: look so great. There's nothing there's no team without you, Lebron.

849
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: Guess what you have the leverage to say, Hey, I

850
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 3: want to make sure that my son is drafted here.

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00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 3: I want to make sure that I get a chance

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Speaker 3: to play with them. And I think it's very realistic

853
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 3: that you see that. And I think for Lebron, he

854
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 3: does not allow organizations. He does not allow people anymore

855
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 3: to get comfortable with them. And I think this is

856
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: part of it.

857
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: I wields the un invisible hand. I use that phrase

858
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: with my daughter. She got all excited starting to talk

859
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 2: about Adam Smith and economics, which was kind of cool

860
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: at fifteen that she wants to have those kinds like see,

861
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: you're paying attention in your history classes. But it's the

862
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: idea that you do have a huge amount of power.

863
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: And for Genie Buss and husband j Moore and the

864
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: brass there Ryan, I mean, it's a lot of the

865
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 2: all right, if he leaves, what do we got? And

866
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: we know even if they backed off a little bit.

867
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: And this is where we can get into Rob Polenka

868
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: and the job of the front office with him comes

869
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: at a lot of expectations. Right, every it's built for

870
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: this year. It's not a long haul, right, it's always

871
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: the we have to win now and make moves accordingly,

872
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: or at least that's the thought. And for Darvin Ham

873
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: during this run, trying to maximize what was on your roster.

874
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 2: And I heard a lot of folks talking about Vanderbilt

875
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: and Vincent not being available. It's like, well it's the NBA.

876
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 2: I guess you know, as you were just talking about

877
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: with the Cavaliers, Well you change up how you approach things.

878
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: And they had great health from both James and Anthony

879
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: Davis that still only led them to the plan, even

880
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: with them playing together as often as they did Austin

881
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 2: Reeves after the big contract. I don't think you saw

882
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: the step up in game night to night that they

883
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: expected there. And we can go full on roster if

884
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: you need to. But for Lebron, he knows there's great

885
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: power in that jersey and for him personally, you know,

886
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: to wield all the leverage. Now. As for the kid,

887
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's going to be. I don't

888
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: think anybody does at this point, but he's got Lebron James.

889
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: You know, as his backer and as a guy who

890
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: can say, well, I'll take my traveling road show somewhere else.

891
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: You know why because I've done it before. Because that's

892
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 2: the other thing. You know, we were talking about Michael

893
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: and Kobe and you know, the fun that were we

894
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: get to use all these guys first name like their

895
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 2: pop stars, but the idea that the other guys didn't

896
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: move like Kobe may have threatened a few times and

897
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: he did, he didn't go anywhere, and Michael didn't go

898
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: anywhere until the end when he left for Washington, and

899
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: that was after the run with the Bulls was done.

900
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: And there's ownership and all that other stuff that comes out.

901
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: But with Lebron, he's taken the road show before, so

902
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: you can use that as leverage.

903
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, he as and before you're right, the

904
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 3: leverage was I'll go play somewhere else. But I think

905
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 3: Lebron's really everge we talked about earlier is that I

906
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 3: can retire. I don't need.

907
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: This, And I was thrown that out a little bit, right.

908
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: You know what's next? What do I have left to accomplish?

909
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny, which no anybody that believes that

910
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: I've got a bridge to sell you.

911
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 3: You know what's funny. I watched him kind of like

912
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 3: the you know, the rant that he had or the

913
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: meltdown whenever, the frustration said it whatever, you want to

914
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: put it out right. When he did the challenge to play.

915
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, three year old stomp, Yeah.

916
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: It was a challenge of play. I feel like that

917
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: was a move and he's had some things that stood

918
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 3: out that when he was towards the end of his career,

919
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 3: he to his career, you just don't care anymore. I

920
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 3: remember tore the end of my career. I didn't do

921
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 3: anything in the NBA, not wild, but just overseas. My

922
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: last year played in Spain and Italy. A little bit

923
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 3: maybe in the NBA, but there was that feeling that

924
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 3: I don't care anymore. I don't need this. There's some

925
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 3: of that I don't need this and some of my behaviors.

926
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 3: Coach would say some things we're unnecessary. I don't need this. No,

927
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: I don't agree.

928
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: Did you ever eat on a bench like D'Angelo Russell?

929
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: No? I did not do that. Okay, I didn't do that,

930
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: but there's just kind of some I don't agree to

931
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: that Often move on and for all of us who

932
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 3: have maybe been in a situation or you have another

933
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: job looming, you have another opportunity, and once you know

934
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: that opportunity viz.

935
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah right, things change.

936
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: The way you approach things change, okay, And I challenge

937
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: everyone in their lives to get to the point where

938
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 3: they don't listen, do not go jump off a bridge

939
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: at at my expense, but get to your like in

940
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 3: your in your life, like Lebron, where you don't need it. Hey,

941
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 3: do you want to do this little little little extra

942
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: extra day, don't need it. Get to the point where

943
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 3: you can say no, That's the challenge in life. Get

944
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: to a point where you can be appreciated and where

945
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 3: you can say.

946
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: No, that's it. You talk about it as blank you

947
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: money or situations, and most folks never achieved that. But

948
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 2: just from the work perspective, as you say, man, Lebron

949
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: can now play the you know lakers where you're at

950
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 2: as an organization you need me more than I need you. Yeah,

951
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: well there'll be there would be plenty of people I think,

952
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: lined up perspective free agents to come fill that salary cap. Uh,

953
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: pretty fast, There's no question about it. But when we

954
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 2: talk about overall impact, et cetera. Even with early exits,

955
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 2: you know, it's still imments from the media coverage to

956
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 2: the sales and everything that rolled through it. The coverage

957
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,240
Speaker 2: and continuity, and let's face it, LA is a star town.

958
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 2: So it flows to that. The sidelight, you know, talking

959
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: about you know, Bronnie James and what he becomes on

960
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: the next level. I know there's been a lot of

961
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: discussion of him getting the NBA combine. Invite my guy

962
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: Boo Booie, one of your top guards and in the

963
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: game coming out of Northwestern, did not get invited. In

964
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: their number of names, It's like, yeah, that's it. They

965
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: want attention. It's like everything else, right, this is a

966
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: draft class that if we're to believe it is either

967
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: a no good or if you are it's a lot

968
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: being dominated from abroad as the game changes and the globalization,

969
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: but that we're not getting the same level, you know,

970
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 2: owing to the conversation we had last hour about men's

971
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: college basketball versus women's college basketball and spotlights this year, Ryan,

972
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: So if Bronnie James' appearance gets a spotlight on the

973
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: rest of these guys and the doings over at the

974
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: Moody Bible Institute another. I mean, that's good for the game,

975
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: So why would you not invite him not to mention, Hey,

976
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 2: Lebron may show up or whoever else from Clutch Sports,

977
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: so you got more eyeballs documentaries, et cetera. And as

978
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: we certainly talk about a lot, we love legacy plays.

979
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: Now it makes me feel old as hell every time

980
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: I see this guy junior and it's like, yeah, I

981
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: watched his old man's entire career and he's been retiring

982
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: for ten years and now this guy gets drafted. So

983
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: the wait, now his kids retiring? No, his grandkid's coming up.

984
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 2: Now I'm truly old. But you know, we were talking

985
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: a lot, you know, yesterday and through the end of

986
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: the week about the Kentucky Derby. And when we start

987
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: talking about trying to make selections for future performance, what

988
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 2: are we doing. We're trying to go through and figure

989
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: out Hell the WWE it's all about bloodline. See what

990
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: I did there? I get the rocket while I'm at

991
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: it in the Little Roman reigns. But you know, you're

992
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: expecting greatness. But as long as you can link it

993
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: to the game of today, it's good for business. It's

994
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: good for marketing and sales even if the kid never

995
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: pans out.

996
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing with Bronnie that I want people

997
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 3: to know this. He's not as great as the expectations say,

998
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: and he's definitely not as bad as some people like

999
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 3: to put a put to him. He definitely deserves the

1000
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 3: draft invite that he's gotten. He's an incredible talent. Physically,

1001
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 3: he's his dad, just a shorter version. He has the

1002
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: same size movements. You'll see, We've seen it if you're

1003
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 3: taking a good look at Bronnie, and he fits the

1004
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 3: NBA game. So he's somewhere in between. Like I said,

1005
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 3: does he deserve to be in the NBA? Yeah, I

1006
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 3: think that as far as you know, the two way

1007
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 3: contracts are given out and you see a lot of

1008
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 3: that Today's mean like, Bronnie can definitely play in the NBA.

1009
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 3: There's no There's no question. This is not a far

1010
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 3: reach of if he's an NBA player, if he has

1011
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 3: the potential, if he can do it or not do it,

1012
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 3: he can do it. Okay, let's make that very clear

1013
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 3: and very right now. Let's put those notions to rest.

1014
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 3: And obviously, is he going to have a bit of

1015
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: a nob because his dad is Yes, but he definitely

1016
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: can play, and he has the talent and the potential

1017
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: is there, and it's still potential. He didn't. You know,

1018
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 3: it's not like he's just been tearing things up. We're

1019
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 3: not going to pretend like he's been doing that. But

1020
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 3: you know, he definitely has a shot to play in

1021
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 3: the NBA.

1022
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 2: All right. And it comes back to the NBA draft

1023
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: is all about potential anyway, because we're usually drafting virtually

1024
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: all eighteen nineteen year old guys, maybe twenty year old guys.

1025
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 2: It's all about, all right, are they going to grow

1026
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: another inch or two? Are they going to put some

1027
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: weight on? Are they going to develop? In this case,

1028
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: you had a guy playing on a squad coming off

1029
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: a heart attack, which is part of the background here,

1030
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: but I mean he wasn't cleared to play basketball and

1031
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: so you were well into the season.

1032
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And one thing you mentioned too, which is accurate,

1033
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 3: it's not a strong draft is one of the weaker

1034
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 3: drafts that we've seen sometime. It is not by any

1035
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 3: measure of strong draft. There's no clear cut number one.

1036
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 3: There's no maybe there's gonna be some great role players

1037
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 3: a diamond in the rough that we don't know about.

1038
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 3: But this is not one of the memorable drafts that

1039
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 3: we also see. But for Lebron, his mindset is saying, hey,

1040
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: we want Bronni drafted by the Lakers, so we don't

1041
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 3: have to have any type of movement with that second

1042
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 3: round pick or going drafted, and I'm gonna scare every

1043
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 3: other team out of going out and trying to get them,

1044
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 3: you know, scare every other team. And I think the

1045
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 3: the chess match is to say, is someone gonna challenge

1046
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 3: Lebron and clutching those guys and go out and say, hey,

1047
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 3: we're gonna draft Bronni just to mess some things up.

1048
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 3: I would draft Bronnie just to just to see because

1049
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 3: Lebron made the comments up I'm gonna go play where

1050
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: my son plays.

1051
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean there's been some reports the last

1052
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: week that maybe he's backed off that a little bit

1053
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: in terms of that being you know, a career cap

1054
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: er kind of thing. But I agree with you. I'm

1055
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: in the second round, man, how many guys truly make

1056
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: it out of the second round? And I know we've

1057
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: got Nicola Jokic as the great example running right now,

1058
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: but one of those guys. There's no guaranteed contracts, so

1059
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: why would you not try to apply pressure If nothing else,

1060
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 2: you get some buzz for your lower level squad for

1061
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: a little while of what might happen, right and the

1062
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 2: excitement thereof So yeah, I don't think there's any downside,

1063
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: And perhaps then you get to do one of those

1064
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: big sales pitches like when those guys were all free

1065
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: agents back in the day and Mike.

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Speaker 3: Would you look down on an organization if they did that? No?

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00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 3: Like no, But what I'm saying is, like, you know,

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00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 3: Lebron wants him with him on the Lakers. He wants that,

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00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: you know, to be kind of something there. Would it

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00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 3: be kind of like a petty move? Would you would

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00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 3: just like, come on, man, you didn't have to do that.

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00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 3: Would you, like, we had a chance that's for him

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00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 3: to play with his dad, Like, would would that be

1074
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 3: a petty move to do?

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00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: I think you still have the opportunity to go and

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00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 2: pitch the dad right if he hasn't re up with

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00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: the Lakers by that point, because he doesn't have to

1078
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: right now.

1079
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 3: So you feel fair game if somebody goes and wow

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00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 3: one hundred.

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00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: Percent, yeah, wow, Like again, it's it's a roster spot. Look,

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00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: if he can come and claim it, two way deal,

1083
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: whatever it is on that squad, that's all fine and good,

1084
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: you know, But if it also puts me potentially in

1085
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: Lebron James coming to my town, particularly if you're one

1086
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: of these also ran squads that aren't in the playoff hunt,

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00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: you're trying to put butts in seats, man, You're trying

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00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: to be relevant. So yeah, all's fair to me. Hey,

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Speaker 2: coming up next, let's talk about the coaching side of

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00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: things here. We've gone a little long with this discussion.

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Speaker 2: He's Ryan Hollins at the Ryan Hollins, find me over

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Speaker 2: at Swollen Do Home. This is Fox Sports Sunday on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: action ahead. We've already got some Premier League on the pitch, golf,

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Speaker 2: reving up, some motorsports as the day goes on. Of course,

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Speaker 2: NBA NHL playoffs continue as well. Ryan, full slate of things.

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Speaker 2: But it always seems to be a coach hiring season

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Speaker 2: here in Los Angeles, somewhere along the line, and once

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01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: again the Lakers cycle out Darvin ham Is. Since Phil

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01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: Jackson left, it's a never ending cavalcade. I think if

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Speaker 2: Dan Byer were in the chair, we'd do a family

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01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 2: feud of all the guys who coached at least one

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01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 2: game for the Lakers in the last fourteen years and

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01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 2: the top what fifteen answers would be on the boards

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01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: or thereabout, including all those interims. So Darvin's out, what

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01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: do you do to maximum eyes? What's left of Lebron?

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Speaker 2: And how much input should he have.

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Speaker 3: If he's going to be there, he should have a

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01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 3: lot of input. If Lebron is still the guy in

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Speaker 3: l A and they have invested into him, he should laugh.

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01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 3: He's still the best player on the Lakers. He's still

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01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 3: one of the better players in the entire NBA. And

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Speaker 3: I think what you do is and this is this

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01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 3: is what's really really tough, And this is where I

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01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 3: feel bad for the Lakers. This is what's tough for them.

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Speaker 3: You don't know how long Lebron is going to be

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01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 3: Lebron for and apparently he's got of like outlived, you know,

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Speaker 3: is his expectations of how long he can be Lebron.

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01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 3: And the reason I say it is, how do I

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01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 3: explain this the best way? No one knew you'd get

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01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 3: like Lebron playing at this level for this long, and

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Speaker 3: he's and he's still like really really not just kind

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Speaker 3: of good, he's still very, very good. So as long

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Speaker 3: as he's good, he's gonna have that choice. He's gonna

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01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 3: be the guy. And even when Lebron's done, he's still

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Speaker 3: gonna have some inputs. So the challenge is how long

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Speaker 3: do we keep you know, keep making him a priority.

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01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 3: But he's priority worth. The value is there and you're

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01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: seeing that with Lebron, so he should definitely, ever say,

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01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 3: things should be tailored around him. And what you would

1133
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 3: normally do is you'd want your coach to match up

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01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 3: with your best players. So give or take, let's say

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01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 3: Lebron can do this for two more years. And I

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01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 3: feel crazy even saying this. Do we get a coach

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01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 3: on a two year deal that fits with Lebron.

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01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: So and it doesn't want to coach defense?

1139
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 3: Whatever I mean, listen, whatever you want to put it under, right,

1140
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 3: whatever you want.

1141
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: To say, come on, you're just gonna let that pass by.

1142
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 2: Come on, I laid that up on a team for you.

1143
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 3: I'm not listen. I'm not gonna fight that. There are

1144
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 3: moments were against the Nuggets where Lebron was he was gross.

1145
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 3: He was absolutely gross, giving up backdoor layups you didn't

1146
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 3: even know where.

1147
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: There were a couple of times where he made great

1148
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: reads and stole them ball like it was old school.

1149
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's part of when you are older. There's part

1150
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 3: of that we talked about, just not Karen. That's part

1151
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 3: of that. Not Karen, okay, but for for Lebron or

1152
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 3: for the Lakers. You almost got a match up. Okay, Lebron,

1153
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 3: if we're gonna let you handpick a coach, we're gonna

1154
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 3: let you go out and go get JJ Reddick. Right,

1155
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 3: We're gonna mark JJ Reddick's deal or put a team

1156
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 3: in option there around the time where we feel like

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01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 3: Lebron may not be the same guy. But for right now,

1158
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 3: everything that he's shown is that he deserves to be

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01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 3: able to handpick his coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, still looks at least from the offensive end. You've

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01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 2: got two or three years of lifeline here, so trying

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01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: to construct the roster around it, it's just the curiosity

1163
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 2: of you know, guys, have a look, you're hired to

1164
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: be fired in all in all jobs, but certainly as

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01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 2: an NBA coach, just seems the lifeline there in organizational direction,

1166
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: they're rudderless. Right, it's the all right, I gave you one,

1167
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: or let's see how fast you can you can go?

1168
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I'm going in a circle. I'm not really

1169
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 2: moving forward here because it seems we end up back

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Speaker 2: at the same place. Right, I mean, you got a

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Speaker 2: guy that won ninety regular season games over two years.

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Speaker 2: He got to the conference finals a year ago, and

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01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 2: yes they underachieved owing to what we said before. Right,

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01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: you had Lebron and ad healthy virtually all season and

1175
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: still couldn't get there. But why is Rob Polinka, you know,

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01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 2: blameless in the larger, larger scale, like it seems like

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Speaker 2: he gets a free pass of all this.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, there's no way that Rob gets a free pass.

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Speaker 3: The reason I say that is.

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Speaker 2: Well, but everybody's going after Darvin and not the roster construction.

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01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 3: That's the that's the name of the game, behind the scenes.

1182
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 3: That that's that's somewhy where. And here's the thing. Don't

1183
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 3: feel bad for Darvin. Hats off to Darvin He'll.

1184
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 2: Be fine, he'll have another job.

1185
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 3: But even more so, he knew taking the head coach

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01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 3: of the Laker's job, that he was going to be

1187
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 3: in a position where he would have to be himself.

1188
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 3: He'd have to do some controversial things, he'd have to

1189
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 3: kind of be publicly scrutinized, he'd have to deal with

1190
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 3: hey Lebron and his frustrations and when they set in.

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01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 3: He knew that. Darvinham very much knew that. And Darvinham,

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01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 3: in my opinion, did an excellent job in the in

1193
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 3: the position. But I say, don't feel sorry for Darvin Ham,

1194
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 3: because he's not asked. He's not gonna be asking you

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01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 3: or anyone to feel sorry for him. He knew what

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01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 3: was going on, he knew what the deal was, and essentially,

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01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, hey man, I thought

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01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 3: he did an excellent job. Barring all the all those factors,

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Speaker 3: I thought Darvinham did an excellent job.

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Speaker 2: Didn't think you'd catch the stray he did from a D.

1201
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 2: When you Luly say we didn't know what we were doing.

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01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 3: Here's what Here's where a D has to be careful.

1203
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 3: If for some reason the Lakers say we want to

1204
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 3: go out and get a name. We want somebody reputable. Okay,

1205
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 3: you know I had coaches do they talk and they're

1206
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 3: gonna look and be like, dude, I don't want to

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01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 3: coach Hansy Davis if that type of behavior is okay

1208
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 3: and and and validated. I don't want to coach anybody

1209
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 3: that It was a cheap move. You don't And I

1210
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 3: don't care. Maybe maybe Darvin didn't do a great job

1211
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 3: in that situation. You don't do that when you still

1212
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 3: have a chance that you're competing in the playoffs or

1213
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 3: you're you just don't do that. It's it's it's it's

1214
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 3: a cheap move. You're throwing your coach, your guy under

1215
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 3: the bus. And I don't I don't think it went overwhelm.

1216
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 3: And if I'm a coach, I'm going And you're the Lakers.

1217
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 3: You want to get a reputable coach, right, you want

1218
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 3: to You want to bring in a name, right, you

1219
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 3: want to get someone who who has value. They don't

1220
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 3: want to They don't want to touch that job with

1221
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 3: a ten football because of the things that you have

1222
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 3: to go again, so you're in a position, hey, you

1223
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 3: might as well go get you know, go get a

1224
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 3: you know, let Lebron pick his coach. Let go get

1225
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 3: a guy that he that he validates, that he feels

1226
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 3: comfortable with Anthony Davis feels comfortable right, right, Because then

1227
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 3: if there's a situation that they feel goes right or

1228
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 3: goes wrong, don't go throwing that guy in the bus. Well,

1229
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 3: he's your guy. He's your guy, so you should be

1230
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 3: throwing your guy into the bus, buddy. I thought it

1231
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 3: was a really cheap move. Even if Anthony Davis was right,

1232
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 3: even if there's confusion behind the scenes with a couple

1233
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 3: of those situations, you don't say it publicly that was wrong.

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01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 2: Heavy is the head? Who where's the crown? And you

1235
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 2: could use that either for you know, everything that people

1236
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: will throw at at the Lebron world or certainly those

1237
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: that take jobs coaching him. The Anthony Davis thing, you

1238
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 2: know normally that's filtered to anonymously to a guy in

1239
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 2: the back, so tells you where you were at there,

1240
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 2: And I agree with you, but it is one of thirty.

1241
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: So you'll take the guarantee money and move out. We'll

1242
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 2: talk about guaranteed money in a whole other way in

1243
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: a minute, but a reminder Shortly after the show, the

1244
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 2: podcast goes up. If you missed any of today's show,

1245
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,040
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1248
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: discussions this morning. Again, search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

1249
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 2: get your podcasts, you'll see this show Fox Sports Sunday

1250
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 2: Hollins and Harmon posted right after we get off the air.

1251
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: We'll get to that contract that I alluded to in

1252
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: a moment, but first let's go to a man who's, oh,

1253
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 2: right now, the most powerful voice in radio. He's our guy,

1254
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: Isaac Lohenkron. Why thank you there? It is that deeper

1255
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 2: and deeper.

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01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 7: When he said powerful, my voice just went down in octave.

1257
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 7: So I appreciate that. Game one mic at the NBA's

1258
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 7: Western Conference semi Finals on Saturday night saw Anthony Edwards

1259
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 7: of the Minnesota Timberwolves poor in a playoff career high

1260
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 7: forty three points as they stole Game one at from

1261
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 7: the defending champions on six to ninety nine. Minnesota meanwhile

1262
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 7: forced seven turnovers by Denver superstar Nikola Jokic, leading to

1263
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,520
Speaker 7: this exchange and this question to Jokic in the postgame

1264
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 7: news conference.

1265
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 5: What's the adjustment that you can make to you know,

1266
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 5: Rudy Gobert's length, and you know, not only that them

1267
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 5: just rotating three fresh bigs on you, you know.

1268
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 3: For most of the game to have duplicate klonof myself.

1269
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 7: Nikola Jokic two shows nightly at the Cherry Creek Hampton Inn.

1270
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 2: Anyway.

1271
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 7: In the Stanley Cup Playoffs on Saturday night, the Boston

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Speaker 7: Bruins won Game seven of their opening round clash with

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Speaker 7: the Toronto Maple Leafs in overtime, two to one, Boston's

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01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 7: David Posternock scoring this series winner a minute and fifty

1275
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 7: four seconds into OT. In Major League Baseball Saturday Night,

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01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 7: Max Monthsey at the Los Angeles Dodgers, who had three

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01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 7: home runs and an eleven to two win over the

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01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 7: Atlanta Raves. The San Diego Padres won on Arizona thirteen

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Speaker 7: to one. Luisa Riise went four for six in his

1280
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 7: San Diego debut earlier Saturday, missed it. Dan won the

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01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 7: one hundred and fiftieth running of the Kentucky Derby in

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01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 7: a photo finish over Sierra Leone's probably regretting getting that

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01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 7: nose job, Mike and Ryan back to you.

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Speaker 2: One of the craziest photo finishes that you see. It's

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01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: like one's high, one's low, and then you've got the

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01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 2: eleven mixed there in great finish. Great race yesterday, Churchill Downs.

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Speaker 2: I'll have an update from the guys on the road

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01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 2: back from Churchill Downs because we have to discuss their

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01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: option for breakfast on the long and arduous road back

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Speaker 2: from Churchill Downs to Chicago. We'll get to that coming

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Speaker 2: up in a couple of minutes. But the power of contracts,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, I just wanted to point this out my

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01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: beloved Chicago Bulls. After missing two plus seasons with a

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01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 2: knee injury, Lonzo Ball was able to exorci Is a

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01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 2: twenty one point four million dollar option on his contract

1296
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty four to twenty five season. Three

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01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:11,839
Speaker 2: surgeries and a lot of well shaking hands and clapping

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01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 2: in his last couple of years with the Bulls. Boy,

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01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 2: the power of the union and guaranteed contracts in the

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01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 2: NBA showing at its best right here for the players.

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Speaker 3: I love it. You want to why when when a

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01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 3: guy's on a rookie deal and he's averaging twenty or

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01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 3: thirty points or out playing his contract. No one goes, man,

1304
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 3: that team was really good and away with the with

1305
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 3: the value they're and they're selling millions of dollars in jerseys.

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01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 2: So that's exactly what we say, they're getting away with

1307
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 2: the value. I mean, we probably do it more in

1308
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 2: the NFL than we do the NBA, but.

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01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 3: It gets frowned upon more so from a player's Oh

1310
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 3: he hadn't even played. When you sign a contract, you

1311
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 3: are projecting. Okay, what you do? You are you are

1312
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 3: making an investment. When when when that portfolio comes out

1313
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 3: or you got an investment plan, we're gonna say, hey,

1314
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 3: invest in this. It's not a guarantee, but it looks

1315
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 3: like this is gonna work out if you pay this money.

1316
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 3: You know this is gonna come back to you. You

1317
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 3: know that's what that's that's it's an investment. And unfortunately

1318
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 3: no one saw that Lonzo would be hurt. Otherwise they

1319
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 3: wouldn't have paid on the money. And guess what they

1320
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 3: still own the money that you don't just get the

1321
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 3: back out on the money. Okay, So I'm I'm not

1322
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 3: gonna bat No, I'm not gonna win them not gonna

1323
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 3: do anything. It's just nothing. It's part of the game

1324
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 3: because a lot of times the organizations, you know, they

1325
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 3: are making those same moves and you know what, the

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01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 3: players outplay their contract. Wow.

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01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 2: I mean that was the old uh staying in Chicago,

1328
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: the old Scottie Pippen thing. You sure you want to

1329
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: sign this long term deal?

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01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 2: I want the security. I want to it. You sure

1332
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 2: you want to sign this long term deal because we're

1333
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:56,440
Speaker 2: not renegotiating.

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01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 3: No, it is one hundred a part of it. It's

1335
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 3: a part of the game, and hey, you got to

1336
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 3: respect it when it goes the other way, you know,

1337
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 3: at the end of the day. And I think this

1338
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 3: is one of one of those situations. But Lonzo Ball

1339
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 3: is worth that. You know that that contract and it's

1340
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 3: you know, it's hey, it's paying off.

1341
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 2: Man paid off for him and if he doesn't play

1342
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 2: another minute, and there's insurances and other things that kick

1343
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 2: in as well. We know the other side of that.

1344
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 2: But you know, it's just always, you know, when when

1345
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 2: a player has that opportunity to cash in and exercise.

1346
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: But let's face it, the other side is if you're

1347
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 2: not happy in today's hell, in any league, at this point, Ryan,

1348
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 2: you basically say I want out, and you can find

1349
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 2: another person, another team to find that contract and reup

1350
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 2: you because that because that's the name of the game

1351
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 2: at this point as well.

1352
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 3: Here here's the frustration that people have. And I think

1353
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 3: this is what you're speaking to, Mike. In the NBA,

1354
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 3: it's a players league, so the players have choice. And

1355
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 3: we just talked about Lebron James and Darmenham and those guys.

1356
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 3: We're not saying that the Lakers did it because Lebron

1357
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 3: James was unhappy. But guess what, there are players understand

1358
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 3: their voice, they know that they are heard, and they

1359
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 3: know in these situations, guess what the coach is going

1360
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 3: to go before the players go. And that's what we're

1361
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 3: seeing with a lot of a lot of these things

1362
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 3: going on here. And because of that, Hey, laws of

1363
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 3: Ball's gonna get his money. The players don't have to

1364
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 3: take these non guaranteed contracts, okay. And because it's a

1365
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 3: guaranteed contract, whether he's hurt, whether unless if he just

1366
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 3: does something unethical, he's gonna get his money. And we're

1367
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 3: seeing that here.

1368
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 2: Well, everybody just wishes their jobs afforded. In the same

1369
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 2: level of power. He's Ryan Hollins. I'm Mike Carbon here

1370
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next week. Yeah,

1371
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 2: we talk about questionable breakfast choices and then the goat debate,

1372
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 2: but centralized around one se in the NBA playoffs to come.

1373
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that next year on Fox. Hey, welcome

1374
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 2: back in Fox Sports Sunday. Here, Fox Sports Radio, Mike Harmon,

1375
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins with you as we roll through and get

1376
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 2: ready for a full day of our sporting world. We've

1377
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: gotten the updates from Isaac Lowencron. You've got injury notes

1378
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 2: looking at Jared Allen, Willie or Woney for Game seven

1379
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 2: a little later Cleveland and Orlando. But I got to

1380
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 2: pay off the tease. My brothers and friends High Bernsey.

1381
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 2: They're driving back from Churchill Downs after a big day

1382
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: at the races, the one hundred and fiftieth running of

1383
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: the Kentucky Derby. Ilo talking about the photo finish a

1384
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 2: little bit earlier. Guys, they were trying to stop for

1385
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:49,919
Speaker 2: breakfast along the highways and byways of America, right middle America,

1386
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 2: getting after it, and they found the place closed. But

1387
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 2: I got to ask, how often do we go to

1388
01:15:54,920 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 2: Arby's for breakfast. WHOA, how about that bit of a

1389
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 2: left turn right? McDonald's not he.

1390
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 8: I think when I lived down in Savannah, Georgia, they

1391
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 8: did do breakfast of the Arby's there and it was

1392
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,480
Speaker 8: very good. It was like sausage e and cheese biscuits,

1393
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 8: kind of remind me of the ones I had of

1394
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 8: like Tim Horton's in the North.

1395
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 2: Ryan, what do you what do you say to that?

1396
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 2: I don't think I see now, I'm intrigued.

1397
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 3: Here's I don't even know if I knew Arby's had breakfast.

1398
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 8: It is probably just regional franchises just picking up breakfast

1399
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 8: on their own.

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01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 7: Well, speaking of regional, isn't Louisville in waffle house territory?

1401
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 7: They're open twenty four hours. Even McDonald's, you've got to

1402
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 7: be able to find like Arby's just seems like such

1403
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 7: a last resort.

1404
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: Now, now, let me let me throw this out here.

1405
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 2: I did get a photo from from them from the

1406
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 2: road here, Ryan, my brother was wearing a straight out

1407
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 2: of Arby's T shirt album cover.

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01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 7: I'm literally on the Arby's website right now and they

1409
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 7: don't even have breakfast items on their own menu.

1410
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, breakfast is it's rare. That's the other thing though, right,

1411
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be traditional breakfast foods. I mean,

1412
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 2: who's to say that a beef sandwich, you know, a

1413
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 2: beef and shadder doesn't constitute breakfast for somebody.

1414
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 3: But you got to at least like put it on

1415
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 3: a biscuit or something. You can't just leave it. It's eggs.

1416
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 3: Eggs is the big thing that makes it breakfast for

1417
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 3: me is like does your sandwich have eggs on it? Yes?

1418
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 2: Or no?

1419
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 3: I like that?

1420
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 2: ILOs going full research mode here, hold dud.

1421
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 8: I've had it before. I just don't know how, like

1422
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 8: how many places really keep it around?

1423
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 2: Sorry about feedback? Are you gonna start? Did you plug

1424
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 2: in a guitar?

1425
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1426
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 2: That would get a song now or sorry about that?

1427
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 8: Parts out there there are pictures of certain Arby's driveters

1428
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 8: that have this.

1429
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, go on island.

1430
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 7: Apparently there is an item called blueberry muffin French toasticks,

1431
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 7: and toasticks are spelled ta sti x at Arby's for breakfast.

1432
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 2: Which means toast sticks in the general sense, was probably

1433
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: trademarked by somebody else. Burgerhan, Yeah, yeah, how do you

1434
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 2: feel about this, Ryan, I think I like going bold

1435
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 2: and being off the map. I mean I've had breakfast Rosco's.

1436
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess there's waffles involved, but still fried chicken.

1437
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 3: I'm all in with it. The more the merrier I

1438
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 3: like options, more options, the better I'm in with it. Hey, Arby,

1439
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 3: keep it going. We'd like to see more places who

1440
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 3: don't have breakfast. Give us some options, you know, Hey,

1441
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 3: I'm in with it.

1442
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 2: At the Ryan Hollins, if you have a breakfast joint.

1443
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 2: I mean he travels a lot with the rockets.

1444
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 8: All day breakfast back I got taken from us from

1445
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,520
Speaker 8: McDonald's before the pandemic. We were so close to greatness.

1446
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 8: All day breakfast.

1447
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 2: Now's the time. How's the time to.

1448
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 3: Make your voice all day breakfast. I'm in with that

1449
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 3: all day breakfast.

1450
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly locally you can find places like that. Now

1451
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm on the website and I'm going down a deep

1452
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 2: dark rabbit hole. Appreciate you, fellows, Ian, Isaac and Chris

1453
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 2: there at Chris perfat At Isaac Lowenkron where you find

1454
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 2: them in the Twitter verse. Ian shout out, you got

1455
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 2: an x account that you want to put out at

1456
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 2: Ian Roddy Underscore. Get the extra underscore there at the

1457
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins find me over at Swollendome. Coming up next, Ryan,

1458
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 2: we take our conversation into goat status and no it's

1459
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 2: not Michael Lebron and some of the usual tired things.

1460
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: Now we're going to centralize it in New York because

1461
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 2: for a first time in a long time, the New

1462
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 2: York Knicks are relevant beyond the screaming of one Jason

1463
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 2: Smith at night here on Fox Sports Radio from seven

1464
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 2: to eleven Pacific time, and from other national talking heads

1465
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 2: who may or not may may have missed the trade

1466
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 2: deadline or may have missed how players are actually being deployed.

1467
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 2: You know who you are, and I know you're listening

1468
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 2: out there. Ryan, as we ponder breakfast, you have you

1469
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 2: had breakfast yet? I mean it is a little later

1470
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 2: there in Houston.

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01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 3: I have not had breakfast yet.

1472
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 2: I did not because Arby's on the rain are now

1473
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 2: might we get him down towards in Arby's. I don't know.

1474
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 2: That's a tease coming up. Nick's talk, Yeah, you love it.

1475
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 2: We'll talking next. John Fox.

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Speaker 2: wherever you may be listening, appreciate you giving us a

1483
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 2: few minutes of your time. I'm by Karmen alongside me,

1484
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 2: ten year NBA vet man who works over in the

1485
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 2: planet Houston. Now with the Houston Rockets coming off a

1486
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: big season. It's my guy, Ryan Hollins with his ties

1487
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 2: back here to you see. Get your eight clap in

1488
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: lay now, members of the Big ten Conference. Ryan Hollins,

1489
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 2: it has been a fantastic fast two hours. Now we

1490
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 2: go for hour three and tell me what's it like

1491
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: being on the road as an announcer, a broadcaster and

1492
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 2: getting ready for games.

1493
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 3: It's challenging, and I say challenging in the sense of

1494
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 3: I thought it. You know, traveling in the NBA was tough.

1495
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:39,719
Speaker 3: But when you don't have practice to do, you gotta

1496
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 3: find time to work out, you gotta find time to eat, right, man,

1497
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 3: you can you don't find yourself eat a little too

1498
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 3: much of that Arby's breakfast. Man, You know, you end

1499
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 3: up sitting around so like you know, after work, after stuff,

1500
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 3: after everybody's done everything, you gotta go work out, you

1501
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 3: gotta go and eat right, and then you gotta kind

1502
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 3: of manage your time. So it is very challenging. And

1503
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 3: I'll give you a little little fun fact that probably

1504
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 3: nobody thought about. Hit me, the broadcasters, the color guys,

1505
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 3: we are the only ones in the entire traveling party

1506
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 3: that still wear suits.

1507
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 2: No, that's actually a good point.

1508
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 3: It is rare. You might get a general manager right

1509
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 3: that that wears the suit. Still right to.

1510
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 2: Go full Darvin Ham in your tracksuit.

1511
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of people do not wear suits anymore.

1512
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: By the way, with Darvin Ham, you know, I kept

1513
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 2: thinking of the meme, remember the one from Arthur where

1514
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 2: he's got the shaking fist. Maybe that's why Darvin Ham,

1515
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 2: because he didn't want to show his anger with the Lakers.

1516
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 3: Darvin's got some big fists.

1517
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 2: Why you always had the hands in the pocket because.

1518
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 3: You don't want to see those Darvin Ham fists going

1519
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 3: all over the place. I'll tell you that much. That's

1520
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 3: a big everybody's he he and hat from the internet.

1521
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 3: Those are some big hands. That's a big mid You

1522
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 3: don't want to upset I'll say.

1523
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: That, but I think about it now, Ryan. I mean

1524
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 2: the keeping your discipline on your diet, right, because you

1525
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 2: got some time when you get to a city to

1526
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 2: kind of hang making sure you're getting into the fitness

1527
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 2: center at the hotel. Yeah, being suited up.

1528
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I'm listen, how about this. I'm

1529
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,719
Speaker 3: seven feet tall, I wear a size seventeen. Those aren't

1530
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 3: little shoes in suits that I'm lugging around. Those are

1531
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 3: big suits. What's a big bag? And everybody has these jokes, Oh,

1532
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 3: what are you traveling for the next two three weeks?

1533
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 3: You know where you going? Man? Are you? Are you

1534
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 3: moving away? There's something you want to tell us that.

1535
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 3: It's all these jokes, and it's like, you guys are

1536
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 3: not wearing three piece suits. I am. You guys are

1537
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 3: wearing your your your truck pants and your you know,

1538
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 3: your your fun stuff. I'm the one, okay that has

1539
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 3: to wear these suits. Me and I got Craig. Okay,

1540
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 3: me and Craig wear the suits. So that's the most

1541
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 3: challenging thing. Now, there aren't some general managers that will

1542
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 3: wear a suit and you know, put some slacks onto

1543
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 3: the game. But for the most part, everybody's casual but us.

1544
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 3: It makes travel very hard. But I'm not complaining. I

1545
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 3: love what I do.

1546
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 2: That goes back to my old sports broadcasting thing of

1547
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 2: the fact that guys are still wearing suits. I used

1548
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 2: have to do that doing video segments for fantasy football.

1549
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 2: It's like, really, I gotta suit up for that. I'm

1550
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 2: gonna be more authoritative because I'm wearing a nice three

1551
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 2: piece suit and a big tie. I don't think so.

1552
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 2: I don't think it works that way. Now let me

1553
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 2: ask you this, if you were to think of the

1554
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 2: greatest Nicks of all time, where does your brain.

1555
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 3: Go, Well, Frazier gotcha ewing M Carmelo and the conversation

1556
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 3: in there. Sure there's someone a lot older then that

1557
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 3: I was not old enough to watch play. But that's

1558
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 3: where I go when I think all time Nicks.

1559
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 2: Charles Oakley had some interesting comments that Mark Jackson felt

1560
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 2: like he had to go and respond to, and he

1561
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 2: did so with one of the great alongsiding.

1562
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 9: I'm not asking you to comment on it handless we

1563
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 9: level Oaks a Warrior, tremendous teammate, tremendous guy. But Oak

1564
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 9: made a statement that Jalen Brunson is the greatest New

1565
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 9: York Knick basketball player since Clyde Fraser. Time out? Are

1566
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 9: you kidding me again? I love you?

1567
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 2: But what are we doing?

1568
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 9: Let me introduce you again to the greatest, not just

1569
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 9: since Clyde Fraser, the greatest New York Knick basketball player

1570
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 9: of all time. That includes everybody. If you put everybody

1571
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 9: that ever played in the Blue and Orange and you

1572
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 9: put them on the draft board, the number one pick

1573
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 9: is Patrick Ewing. So that's nothing against Jalen Brunson and

1574
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 9: what he's been able to accomplish and the incredible year

1575
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 9: that he's put together and.

1576
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 2: What he's going to do moving forward, but it is.

1577
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 9: Beyond question that this guy is the best to ever

1578
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 9: do it in Blue and Iron.

1579
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 2: Mark Jackson appearing out a podcast alongside Patrick Ewing, Hey,

1580
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 2: it's funny how we Brunson wins them a and we

1581
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 2: like Jalen Brunson right because he's not seven feet and dominating.

1582
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 2: He's not, you know, he's a guy that was His

1583
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 2: contract kind of bashed a little bit as he got

1584
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 2: signed by the Knicks and all and talk about his

1585
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 2: dad and everything else. But uh, especially when he has

1586
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,799
Speaker 2: that clip. Say, he refused to have Michael Jordan autograph

1587
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 2: a jersey for him at one point because he said

1588
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 2: it would ruin the jersey, which I thought was pretty funny.

1589
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 2: But you know, Carmelo's career kind of gets passed by.

1590
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 2: I mean, certainly Patrick Ewing, man that do they have beef?

1591
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 2: I didn't know about him and Oaks. I know Oak

1592
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 2: has issues with James Dolan. Uh, and and folks there

1593
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 2: at the Garden they're Ryan, but uh, you know Patrick

1594
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: Ewing one of those guys who was unfortunately in that

1595
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 2: time where he was overshadowed by Michael Jordan and the

1596
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 2: OJ Chase.

1597
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's just we've all been prisoner, some

1598
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 3: of some recency biased. You gotta appreciate what he's doing.

1599
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 3: And maybe he just forgot Pat. You know, maybe he

1600
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 3: forgot It's easy. It's been a long time, and I

1601
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 3: mean how long.

1602
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: How did you forget about Pat? Pat was the guy

1603
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 2: you played alongside for years.

1604
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 3: You're right, it might be some beef. Who knows.

1605
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a story that comes out of that. For me,

1606
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 2: it's like wait are they beefing? And I don't know

1607
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: about it very well.

1608
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 3: With Oak, you never know, a lot of those folks play.

1609
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 3: They're very very competitive. Those guys are are edgy. There's

1610
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 3: a reason why they were as great as they were.

1611
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 3: And who knows, there may be some beef. Who knows.

1612
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not speaking to it. I'm not

1613
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 3: throwing it out, but we're trying to make a logic

1614
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 3: of it. And you literally you never know.

1615
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you throw out something and you just dismissed

1616
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 2: the guy you were playing alongside, I got I gotta

1617
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 2: ask some questions. But I mean you go through with

1618
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 2: the Knicks and even looking at Carmelo Anthony, I mean

1619
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,480
Speaker 2: he average what nearly twenty five a game for them.

1620
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 3: They didn't win. There's some winning the Knicks have done.

1621
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 2: But all you did was beat the Sixers.

1622
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 3: No, that's not all you can do.

1623
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 2: If you're now Yorord and has a huge run, then sure, But.

1624
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 3: If you are a New York fan and you haven't

1625
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 3: you haven't had playoffs, you haven't had won in the

1626
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 3: playoffs and how long?

1627
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 2: No, it's I mean since Patrick Ewing.

1628
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, guess what. It's not just all you did. Okay,

1629
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that right now, Mike, it's not just

1630
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 3: all you did. And then it's even sweeter. I don't

1631
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 3: know if you feel the same way, Mike, when you're

1632
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 3: when you aren't expecting this, when you just said the

1633
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 3: Knicks are gonna be good, We're gonna be competitive, and

1634
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that, and then they win and they

1635
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 3: know you just beat anybody. You beat Philly, You beat Philly,

1636
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,440
Speaker 3: you beat the guys right there, right down the street.

1637
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, it's a proud time. Those are the

1638
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 3: fun seasons.

1639
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 2: No, the added pettiness of the ticket thing and everything

1640
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 2: just took it over the top. There's no question about that.

1641
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 2: But go back. I mean, you look at the Eastern Conference.

1642
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 2: It's been for the entirety of the year was the

1643
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 2: Celtics and this huge gap and everybody else, and then

1644
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 2: Milwaukee whatever the hell happened after Doc Rivers showed up,

1645
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 2: the disaster that was not to mention the the exit

1646
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 2: of Pat Beverly. You want to jump on that one

1647
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 2: for a minute. If anybody missed what you had to

1648
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 2: say on Friday, throwing the ball at folks, and then

1649
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 2: the the interview stuff I mean, that's Bush League material

1650
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 2: on many levels and probably a massive suspension to follow.

1651
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 2: But otherwise the Eastern Conference has been a bunch of

1652
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 2: all right, wait and see. So why not the Knicks.

1653
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 3: Well, this is what I talked about with Jason. Jason

1654
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 3: on Friday, and we had to agree here, and I

1655
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 3: had to give him credit. I said, he didn't like

1656
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 3: the way well, he did like the way I worded it,

1657
01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 3: you know him.

1658
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, this is what I said my partner

1659
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 2: during the week on a bash Jets, Knicks and Matt

1660
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 2: super Fan to the point of for me sometimes nausea.

1661
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was gross. It was gross.

1662
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 2: I mean, respect that I can.

1663
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 3: The things that he did Friday, they were gross. They

1664
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 3: were illegal in fifty states. Okay, shouted shoutow Jason spit

1665
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,680
Speaker 3: by the way. Okay. But but the one thing that

1666
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 3: I told him is I said, the Knicks are not

1667
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 3: gonna win the championship. But if they were to win

1668
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 3: a championship, this would be the year to win a championship.

1669
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 3: For Zingis is out, Giannis is out, and Bean was hired.

1670
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 3: This is a year. This is the year for the

1671
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 3: Knicks to win a championship. But I don't think they're

1672
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 3: gonna win the championship. Damian Lillard had the achilles Yep,

1673
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 3: this is the year. Okay, this is the year.

1674
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 2: Sometimes it all flows together. It is a very I mean,

1675
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 2: look in the in the NBA at this point when

1676
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:00,600
Speaker 2: we look at a what is it, three and a

1677
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 2: half month playoff run, it's a war of attrition and

1678
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 2: it has been the last couple of years, and the

1679
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: lamentation when guys take an extra day off or or

1680
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 2: whatever during the regular season. I can't blame him.

1681
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 3: And then he proceeded. He doesn't stop there. Just so

1682
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if you're listening. We assume

1683
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 3: you always listen.

1684
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 2: No, no, I'll be realized knowing that he was gonna

1685
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 2: bombard you with Knicks talk. I took the mental health

1686
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 2: day away from Knicks talk.

1687
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 3: He proceeded to kick Julius Randle off the team for assets,

1688
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 3: did he Yeah, that's that's where Yeah. He Just when I.

1689
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 2: Found funny was Josh Hart like in a series where

1690
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 2: it was all about our toughness and being together, where

1691
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 2: Josh Hart made sure to point out the hey, we're

1692
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 2: winning with this guy off, so just remember this big

1693
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 2: component of ours and he started citing stats he's not here,

1694
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 2: basically saying, if we end up losing to the Sixers,

1695
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 2: remember Julius wasn't here.

1696
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, but essentially, uh, mister Smith decided to kick Julius

1697
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 3: Randall off the team, for.

1698
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: He does that every year.

1699
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 3: He moved forward, and you know, I'm like, wow, I thought,

1700
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 3: this is you know, once a Nick, always a Nick,

1701
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 3: you know, a thing like that. He moved forward right

1702
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 3: right before our eyes, and I was I was dumbfounded.

1703
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 3: I could not believe. But I was hearing.

1704
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,839
Speaker 2: Did he put Julie Joel Embiid in a Nick's uniform

1705
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 2: in doing so? I don't know if he's been trying

1706
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:28,639
Speaker 2: to speak that into existence.

1707
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's I mean, no, no, Oh, it

1708
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 3: was Paul George. Paul George was in Nick. Paul George

1709
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 3: was a Nick. That that's what was going on.

1710
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:39,480
Speaker 2: Because when I think playoff and clutch performances and consistency,

1711
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 2: I think Paul George.

1712
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, listen, the Clippers no longer needed his services

1713
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 3: and there's gonna be a big trade and it was

1714
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 3: Julius Randall and you know, some assets for Paul George.

1715
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 3: That that's where he went and you know, I mean

1716
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 3: I had no parts of it. I couldn't. I couldn't

1717
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 3: believe it. He wanted he you know, he's slick about

1718
01:32:56,760 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 3: it because he wanted me to. He wanted me kind

1719
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 3: of be like, yeah, man, that makes a lot of sense.

1720
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 3: That should work for both sides. He wanted me to

1721
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 3: go there, and I was like, what, No, I'm not

1722
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 3: going there. I'm not booting the guy off the team.

1723
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 3: I mean, what's wrong with you? You know he wanted me

1724
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 3: to do that. I'm not doing that with him.

1725
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 2: That's what he does. He's already working on the next

1726
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:19,839
Speaker 2: generation of the squad.

1727
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he wanted me to say it. He wanted

1728
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 3: this to No, that's not what I'm saying. This is

1729
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 3: not okay because the guy's injured to just you know,

1730
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 3: put an end to him.

1731
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,599
Speaker 2: No, No, Hey, he had a good run. Is really

1732
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 2: where Smith comes Like now, as an injured asset, where

1733
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 2: can we go and find value? The fact that he

1734
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 2: went to Paul George. I'll have to bring that up

1735
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 2: to him when I see him next, No question about that.

1736
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 2: Clippers obviously in a strange state as well. The fact

1737
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 2: that we have a lot of conversation about ty Lew

1738
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 2: and extensions is kind of funny, like he still got

1739
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 2: a year left on the deal.

1740
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he's just completely.

1741
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 2: You're not gonna let him walk across the hallway.

1742
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 3: No, no, no, they're not. But he just he's all

1743
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 3: over the place, and you know it is you know,

1744
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 3: I love what TYLERU said. And I worked with ty

1745
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 3: in la and in Boston, and you know, someone asked

1746
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 3: him about it and he was just like, man, it's flattering.

1747
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 3: It's always good to be wanted. No, sure, that is

1748
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 3: the approach. It is always good to be wanted.

1749
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 2: That's a good quote. Take that into your day wherever

1750
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 2: you may be. However you're listening, and whomever you're listening with,

1751
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 2: maybe you just turn to the person next you say, see,

1752
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 2: it's all I need to hear once in a while.

1753
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 3: It's always good to be wanted, right, That's right? Right,

1754
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 3: significant other, Hey, always good to be wanted.

1755
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 2: Just you got to make it known.

1756
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 3: That's it.

1757
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to say it. Ryan Hollins with the

1758
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 2: Sage Advice via Tyler at the Ryan Hollins where you

1759
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 2: find him on Twitter find me over at Swollen Dome.

1760
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:53,839
Speaker 2: You know I'm talking about goats let's talk about villains

1761
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 2: and one NFL player who had his realization moment of

1762
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 2: maybe I've cross to the other side. Talk about that

1763
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 2: next time. Hey, welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radios,

1764
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carmen alongside Ryan Hollins at the

1765
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins where you find him, find me over at

1766
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 2: Swollen Dome, and of course follow us always at Fox

1767
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Has become to you live from the ti

1768
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 2: Raq dot Com studios. And Ryan, you know the old phrase, right,

1769
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 2: you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

1770
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 2: We steal it straight from Batman.

1771
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 3: Well.

1772
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 2: One NFL quarterback, a babyface, if we were to take

1773
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 2: the WWE parlance, felt like he found that moment speaking

1774
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 2: on the Impulsive podcast, Yes that with Logan Paul. Here's

1775
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes talking about that moment.

1776
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 10: This year definitely was a more villain type role for that.

1777
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,719
Speaker 10: I think the whole team. I don't think I really

1778
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 10: realized that, Like I had heard people like talking in

1779
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 10: like the obviously social media there's people always talking, so

1780
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 10: I didn't know how real it was until I got

1781
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 10: the Buffalo this year. I think I saw forty little

1782
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 10: fingers on the way into the stadium. We go out

1783
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 10: there and win. I'm trying to hand you know, I'm

1784
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 10: trying to hand my headband and sleeve off to a kid,

1785
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 10: and they're just snowballs and just flying at me headband

1786
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 10: and sleeve. Trying to take care of a kid. Look,

1787
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 10: I'm still getting pelted.

1788
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:20,679
Speaker 2: But man is that's got to be the best feeling

1789
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 2: in the world, right because now you know you've gotten

1790
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 2: over on a full level again, ww Parlance like you,

1791
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 2: you have won over a crowd to where they're all

1792
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 2: against you. And there's nothing dislikable about the Chiefs except

1793
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,759
Speaker 2: they win because we get bored or we get angry.

1794
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 2: We did it with the Warriors. People got tired of

1795
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 2: the long, generous and a lot of what we talk

1796
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,799
Speaker 2: about with Lebron James. People got over it with Brady

1797
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 2: and the Patriots like you, you're become tired of but

1798
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 2: also to the villain status and maybe BUILDEO like Taylor Swift.

1799
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 2: So they went after Travis Kelsey in that regard. But

1800
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, I got to think if I'm an athlete,

1801
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 2: it's got to be a pretty cool feeling because if

1802
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 2: forty thousand people hate me means I'm pretty damn good

1803
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 2: at what I'm doing and I'm probably beating them with

1804
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:09,640
Speaker 2: some regularity.

1805
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 3: You're right about that, but I mean, listen, this is

1806
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 3: elite company, this is elite talk, So I don't know

1807
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,600
Speaker 3: what it's like. But you know, Patrick Mahomes is a

1808
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 3: very likable guy. He wants to be like so that

1809
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 3: I mean that kind of stinks. Like I feel bad

1810
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 3: for him. Man, he wants to be liked. He's likable,

1811
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 3: he's positive. But then you hear him. He's given his

1812
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 3: he's looking and this sounds like a consistent thing, giving

1813
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 3: his headman to a kid.

1814
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 2: I like that. That random and not so random, if

1815
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, I'm kind of thrown. It's

1816
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 2: like I'm trying to help out a kid. Look, I'm

1817
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,839
Speaker 2: giving him my sleeve and my headband and they're pelting

1818
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,879
Speaker 2: me with snowballs. Oh oh the horror.

1819
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:56,959
Speaker 3: Yeah that's not you know, that's that's not nice. That stinks.

1820
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 3: He's a good guy, but you know what hats off.

1821
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 3: And I think everybody felt this. Lamar Jackson was so likable.

1822
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 3: I think that you wanted to see Lamar uh, you know,

1823
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 3: in that position, And I think just you just kind

1824
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 3: of had enough of Mahomes winning. And then, honestly, I

1825
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:25,799
Speaker 3: think just the Taylor Swift thing, it just consumed the NFL.

1826
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 3: It consumed them. That's where you know, a lot of

1827
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 3: the frustrations came from. People were kind of just just

1828
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 3: tired of you know, she's big, big down coming up.

1829
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 3: You look over and it's like, what does Taylor Swift think?

1830
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,639
Speaker 3: I mean, she was getting in the NFL. After they

1831
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 3: got the criticism, I mean, they leaned into it.

1832
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you people watching games that had never watched

1833
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 2: games before. Every sport should be so lucky to have

1834
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 2: somebody that status. They and look at the in the NFL,

1835
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 2: you know, their ratings, kings anyway. But to get a

1836
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 2: bunch of a bunch of folks who don't watch the

1837
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 2: NFL suddenly activated for a Sunday afternoon of tilt in

1838
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 2: early November, come on, sign me up right?

1839
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, I understand it. But for the

1840
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 3: the actual sports fan you were, you were against it.

1841
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 3: They were they were the super villains. Hey, we talked

1842
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 3: about it. Hey, we talked about Bronnie earlier. Would you

1843
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 3: know what's stunk for Bronnie? As soon as Bronnie and

1844
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 3: BRODDI is one of the greatest kids effort. But when

1845
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 3: his dad is lebron his dad showed up to the game,

1846
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 3: Bronnie became somewhat of a villain.

1847
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 2: You know, like, well dad, yeah, but dad also saying

1848
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 2: that he should be playing heavy rotation minutes for the Lakers,

1849
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 2: and yeah, but during during the year probably help that.

1850
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 3: When you're in a position of greatness, you have to

1851
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 3: deal with that. And I think it's more so obviously

1852
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 3: to two different situations. Ronnie just it's always tough to be,

1853
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 3: you know, the sun of a great and Brunnie's one

1854
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 3: of the greatest, just an amazing kid man, and I

1855
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 3: hate that he has to go through that. But for

1856
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:10,640
Speaker 3: for Mahomes, yeah they've won, and you know what, Mahomes,

1857
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:15,480
Speaker 3: he does it his way. It's not the same expectation

1858
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 3: of a lot of other people. Just goes and wins.

1859
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 3: He's a good guy. It's it's I'm not gonna say

1860
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 3: he's got the Russell Wilson treatment. It's different, but he's

1861
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 3: he just's he's standard. He's Manila others. There's not a

1862
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 3: lot of spice there. He's just a good guy. Just

1863
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 3: does what he's supposed to do. Sometimes people don't appreciate

1864
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 3: someone who does what they're supposed to do. Now, now

1865
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 3: Tom Brady and them, don't get me wrong, to me

1866
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:42,920
Speaker 3: tom Brady, the spygate, all the controversy to them winning,

1867
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 3: and someone would say cheating, I'm not gonna do that.

1868
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:48,440
Speaker 3: That's for you to say. Okay, I don't know enough information.

1869
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 3: But for Mahomes, I think the big turning point was

1870
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:53,600
Speaker 3: a Taylor Swift thing. I'm gonna I'm gonna pin it

1871
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 3: on Taylor Swift. That's why his team became very unlikable.

1872
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 2: Certainly does doesn't hurt. Why didn't she choose our team,

1873
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 2: choose a guy on our team and give us the clicks?

1874
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 2: And yes, the the cutaways were there, But again, as

1875
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:12,000
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant once famously said, you don't like it, don't

1876
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 2: watch move on with my homes if they, at least

1877
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,680
Speaker 2: to this point, seems a little bit goofy, but it

1878
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 2: hasn't crossed into the Russell Wilson quote phony area. And

1879
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 2: as for the Bronny, you know you feel bad for him.

1880
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:28,520
Speaker 2: It's gotten him a lot of a lot of positives.

1881
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 2: I think if folks anonymous folks on social media are

1882
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 2: getting after him a little bit. I think you can

1883
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 2: think of a lot, a lot worse things than what's

1884
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 2: been bestowed upon him given the surname.

1885
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah no, and I'm in with that, And I think,

1886
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 3: you know, you hit it right on the head. This

1887
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 3: is a little different, but I think I guess it

1888
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 3: all fairness. The more we think about it, I think

1889
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 3: we unfortunately we put this on Taylor Swift and her

1890
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 3: popularity and going, you know, what does this have to

1891
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 3: do with football? You know? And I don't want to

1892
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 3: see her in another cutaway again. You know that that

1893
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,639
Speaker 3: that's we'll lean into it with this one.

1894
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 2: Fair You know, I would have leaned into a hey

1895
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 2: like the NBA does now, because you know, with most games,

1896
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:09,719
Speaker 2: if you go, it's at least on my YouTube TV

1897
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 2: no ad, I pay for my subscription. I go to

1898
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 2: pick up a game, it's like, Hey, would you like

1899
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 2: to watch here? Would you like to watch the bet

1900
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 2: cast on True TV? If I were the NFL, I

1901
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 2: would have had the tailor cam worked out a deal

1902
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 2: with her to where if that's all you wanted to

1903
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 2: watch for three hours, you would get reactions of her

1904
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:30,440
Speaker 2: and Blake Lively and her cast of characters.

1905
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 3: You have to pay her a lot of money. Now

1906
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 3: see that. Now we're now we're talking a whole different conversation.

1907
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:39,840
Speaker 3: Now now you live on pay per view. Come on now,

1908
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 3: hey listen, I'm with it. Listen, Hey, I think that

1909
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 3: every I think every sports team should have a celebrity

1910
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 3: mascot would be wrong. I don't think that'd be a

1911
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 3: good word.

1912
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 2: Maybe, yes, you might have angered the Swifties.

1913
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Speaker 3: A celebrity, you know, a face, a celebrity face.

1914
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 2: Let me ask you that. So let let's go through that. Right,

1915
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 2: New York, he got all these guys up front. Right,

1916
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 2: you saw Tracy Morgan flipping guys off, Jalen Brunson. Uh,

1917
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 2: you've got Ben Stiller with not quite Zoolander face and

1918
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:19,679
Speaker 2: everybody else getting after it like the Luminaries in New York.

1919
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:23,440
Speaker 2: For Philadelphia, they were so low in terms of celebrities,

1920
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:25,560
Speaker 2: they had to go to Big Dom as one of

1921
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 2: their top celebrities. You know who Big Dom is. Who's

1922
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 2: Big Dom security guy and sidelined guy for the Eagles.

1923
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, that's how fast they got down your

1924
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 2: celebrity stats.

1925
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 3: You know what Philly did a good job of, though,

1926
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:44,639
Speaker 3: they brought back their former players, Allen I ever since

1927
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 3: kind of the guy? Would you count? Alan? Alan Iverson

1928
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 3: feel like a former player doesn't count?

1929
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but former players generally don't count. And by the way,

1930
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 2: anybody who ever wore a Knick's uniform is under one

1931
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 2: of those baskets. At this point, there's a whole row

1932
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,480
Speaker 2: of guys celebrating every made bucket.

1933
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they's did a good job there, But but you

1934
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 3: want a Taylor Swift esk Well.

1935
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 2: But like the former players I expect to be around,

1936
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 2: it's when you get the added bonus of like the

1937
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,760
Speaker 2: San Diego Padres, there's Emma.

1938
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,560
Speaker 3: Stone, Okay, well maybe the pattern.

1939
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 2: Game and part of the Swifty entourage there.

1940
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 3: Maybe whoever the person is, they have to have like

1941
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 3: a I guess, a relationship with the player.

1942
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, yeah, maybe, I don't know. We're

1943
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 2: starting to get down the wags commentary.

1944
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to go there. I don't know. You're

1945
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 3: taking a.

1946
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 2: Bat a dark paths.

1947
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 3: You want them to show up every game, and it's like,

1948
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 3: why would you show up every game? And if they're

1949
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:48,600
Speaker 3: a big enough name, you know you're not gonna have

1950
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 3: enough money to keep them there every game.

1951
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 2: You know, Wow, football wise, you can make it work.

1952
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 2: You got eight home games.

1953
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know it's not enough money. Let's

1954
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 3: say her and Kelsey their relationship changes, okay, as life happens.

1955
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 3: But she may not want to be there. Dude, she

1956
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 3: may not want to be there.

1957
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 2: You really took this in a whole other direction.

1958
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 3: There. You wanted the truth them give you the truth?

1959
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 3: Do you want to know? Why not?

1960
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Speaker 2: Swift?

1961
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1962
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 2: Listen, which I mean right now would be a kid

1963
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 2: to saying you know you dislike Arby's Sandwiches for breakfast.

1964
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 2: See what I did there? You pull it all together Arvey's.

1965
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 3: I think you're going to Arvey's for breakfast. No, no,

1966
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 3: I gotta go pick up my kid and twenty.

1967
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 2: Miles for soccer.

1968
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 3: Within the week, you will go to Arby's for breakfast

1969
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 3: and you will shoot out a nice little tweet of

1970
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 3: your Army's breakfast and we can't tell. Yeah, we will

1971
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 3: do this.

1972
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 2: We may have to do a review again, not a sponsor,

1973
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 2: just a discussion point on the highways and byways of life.

1974
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:52,680
Speaker 2: All right, we got a tale from Churchill Downs from

1975
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 2: yesterday that I got to hear your opinion on and

1976
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 2: we have to circle back to the Clippers and the

1977
01:45:57,160 --> 01:46:00,120
Speaker 2: mess that is there for Steve Balmer. But first it's

1978
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 2: turned it over to our guy, Isaac Lowingron with an

1979
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 2: update of everything going on in our sporting universe.

1980
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 7: I've actually also got a tale of Churchill downs as

1981
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 7: well going up. When we start with the first round

1982
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 7: of the NBA Playoffs, it concludes today in Cleveland. Game

1983
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 7: seven between the Cavaliers and the Orlando Magic tip off

1984
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 7: about an hour and a half from now.

1985
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 2: Now.

1986
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 7: Cleveland's Jared Allen officially listed as questionable due to a

1987
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 7: right rib contusion. Cavaliers head coach JB. Bickerstaff was just

1988
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:34,480
Speaker 7: asked moments ago if Allen will play and replied, we'll see.

1989
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 7: In Game one of the Western Conference semi finals on

1990
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 7: Saturday night, the Minnesota Timberwolves what at Denver? What six

1991
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 7: to ninety nine Anthony Edwards a playoff career high forty

1992
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 7: three points, and the Stanley Cup Playoffs. On Saturday night,

1993
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 7: the Boston Bruins won Game seven of their opening round

1994
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 7: series over the Toronto Maple Leafs that over time two

1995
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:56,759
Speaker 7: to one. Boston's David Posternoch, the series winner, A minute

1996
01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 7: and fifty four seconds into ot baseball Saturday night, I

1997
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 7: saw the Dodgers Max Munsey hit three home runs in

1998
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 7: an eleven to two win over Atlanta. The San Diego

1999
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 7: padres one at Arizona thirteen to one as Luis Arrise

2000
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 7: went four for six. It is San Diego debut. Earlier Saturday,

2001
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 7: Mysstic Dan won the one hundred and fiftieth Kentucky Derby

2002
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 7: in a photo finish over Sierra Leone.

2003
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 2: The drama of.

2004
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 7: The photo finish capsulated by a young woman named Hannah

2005
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:29,759
Speaker 7: who tweeted this morning and I quote called my parents

2006
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:33,640
Speaker 7: to tell them about my first Kentucky Derby experience. And

2007
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 7: the first thing they asked me is if I saw

2008
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 7: Travis kelcey unquote.

2009
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 2: Here you go, see Mike and Ryan back to you.

2010
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 2: It all comes together. You gotta talk the guy that

2011
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 2: had to have a full on entourage and security and everything. Boy,

2012
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 2: life much different. You're a Super Bowl champion. Yeah, you

2013
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:56,640
Speaker 2: could walk about freely in that environment. Taylor Swift relationship

2014
01:47:57,160 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 2: next level stuff. Although I still have people in my

2015
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:01,800
Speaker 2: timeline that are like, boy, they really have gone to

2016
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 2: the ends about this fake relationship. And I'll leave that

2017
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:07,959
Speaker 2: there for the blogs. Shortly after the show, the podcast

2018
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 2: goes up. If you missed any of today's show, be

2019
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 2: sure to check it out. Search Fox Sports Radio wherever

2020
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,760
Speaker 2: you get your podcast. Be sure to follow, rate and

2021
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 2: review the podcast. Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

2022
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 2: your audio. You'll see this show posted Fox Sports Sunday

2023
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 2: Hollins and Harmon right after we get off the air.

2024
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:27,719
Speaker 2: All right, the Clippers, how do you fix it? What happens?

2025
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 2: What is Tyler working with next year? Who's coming back?

2026
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:33,839
Speaker 2: Who vacates the premises as they go into a new building.

2027
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 3: Well, you've got to sacrifice someone for an asset and

2028
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 3: or assets. So I don't know if it's a sign

2029
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 3: and trade opportunity. I'm not sure how you go about it,

2030
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 3: but you have to go out and you have to

2031
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 3: find a way to get someone that can actually kind

2032
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 3: of you got to get younger, you know, you got

2033
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 3: to get some young blood in there, because the thing

2034
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:08,839
Speaker 3: is younger players are typically more healthy, and the struggle

2035
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 3: is health and you have to have a future to

2036
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 3: look forward to because you know, hey, all of the

2037
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:18,760
Speaker 3: stars with the Clippers, they're on their back end. So

2038
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to I don't know if it's if

2039
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 3: it's Harden, I don't know if it's even possible with Kawhi,

2040
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:27,719
Speaker 3: or it's it's Paul George, but one of those guys

2041
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 3: you gotta kind of sacrifice to get younger. I don't

2042
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 3: think you're in a position where you want to just

2043
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 3: wash yourself, wash your hands of all of them, but

2044
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 3: I think that could be a big factor somehow you

2045
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 3: can get younger and obviously holding on to the you know,

2046
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 3: Terrence Man and guys like that, but I think you

2047
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 3: really have to find a way to get younger.

2048
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, as we look at it in the moment,

2049
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 2: both Harden and George both thirty four years old, Kawhi

2050
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 2: Leonard at thirty two. I mean, nobody's training for that

2051
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 2: contract at this point, given the injury history that he's got,

2052
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 2: and you just signed him, right, he was the guy

2053
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 2: that you decided, right, we're gonna build and then he's

2054
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 2: unavailable once again when you need him. You know, it's

2055
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:18,519
Speaker 2: two seasons, right, and the NBA regular season, you can

2056
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:21,559
Speaker 2: be look in the Western Conference obviously much tougher sledding

2057
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:24,680
Speaker 2: in those back seeds. As we saw a lot of

2058
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 2: the big superstars in the play in tournament, but you

2059
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 2: have more room for error to be able to maybe

2060
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 2: sit a game or two or get your load management.

2061
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 2: I hate that term, but for the purposes of the conversation,

2062
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:41,040
Speaker 2: we'll use it here to try to make yourself available

2063
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:42,919
Speaker 2: to the playoffs. But as we know, there's no guaranteed

2064
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:46,639
Speaker 2: that that's the case. So now you're building and trying

2065
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 2: to rebuild on faulty architecture as it were.

2066
01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but again the answer, I don't think you just

2067
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 3: clean house of all of them. I think you're going

2068
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 3: into a new stadium. I don't think it works. And

2069
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 3: here's a tough thing. I mean, Jason talked about this Friday.

2070
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 3: Paul George is by far your best asset. That's the

2071
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 3: best asset, and you hadn't signed him back, So maybe

2072
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 3: there's a sign and trade opportunity or something there. I

2073
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:15,559
Speaker 3: don't think you'd want to see Paul George go, but

2074
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 3: you maybe try to see something I guess come back

2075
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 3: that definitely has a huge value there, you know. So

2076
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 3: I think he is the asset, but he's the one

2077
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 3: you wouldn't want to let go. But that's the one

2078
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:28,679
Speaker 3: that you can.

2079
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 2: Maybe feet enough for.

2080
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, the value getting.

2081
01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 2: Actual value and assets, be it a player, be it

2082
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 2: you know that plus draft picks or whatever you're looking

2083
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 2: for there. I mean, you're looking at a player option

2084
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:50,320
Speaker 2: of about forty nine million for this coming year, which

2085
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, does it even pick up the option?

2086
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 2: You can sign and deal somewhere else and just leave

2087
01:51:57,479 --> 01:51:59,760
Speaker 2: all together. And it's not where you get into your

2088
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:00,719
Speaker 2: side in trade.

2089
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 3: It's just really hard to see, you know, see the

2090
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:08,000
Speaker 3: Clippers moving on from Paul George. I think they I

2091
01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 3: think they write it out. I don't think there's a

2092
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 3: situation where they just they just let him walk by

2093
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:16,639
Speaker 3: any any measure. But you know, and then what guy's

2094
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 3: out there? And here's a tough thing right now in

2095
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 3: the NBA. There are so many teams that are good.

2096
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 3: So from another team standpoint, they're like, why would we

2097
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 3: move on? There's nothing for us to move on to.

2098
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna hold put. We like what we have. There's

2099
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 3: not a lot of teams just out there looking to

2100
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 3: get better or to improve. So in terms of Paul George,

2101
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 3: it's like, well, why would we get rid of them?

2102
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 2: Well, but that's the reality though, right what do.

2103
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:46,960
Speaker 3: We need to move? No, we don't have anything that

2104
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 3: we want to move right and.

2105
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 2: Not to disrespect the career of Paul George is a

2106
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:55,600
Speaker 2: nineteen well, he's a nineteen five a game in the postseason.

2107
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 2: We've seen some great moments, and I don't mean to

2108
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:02,680
Speaker 2: diminish him as a player, but the idea that he's

2109
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:05,760
Speaker 2: your best asset that really isn't saying much. One guy

2110
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:08,920
Speaker 2: can't play, and we've watched James Harden in big moments

2111
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 2: for years. Paul George is right there with him.

2112
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2113
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, consistency he's not there. I don't think his inconsistency

2114
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 2: isn't there. So why am I going to gut and

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Speaker 2: change up my rotation in chemistry to bring him in.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you're another team, you're not looking at Paul

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Speaker 3: George as a guy. You're looking at him as a

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Speaker 3: as a second or third option. And a lot of

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Speaker 3: teams may feel like, hey, we'll take that, we need

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Speaker 3: that where that we are that one piece away. So

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Speaker 3: I think for for another team, that's the real appeal

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Speaker 3: of Paul George. I definitely think he's a second or

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Speaker 3: third option there. There's no there's no question there. He

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Speaker 3: can he can play that role. So I think that's

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Speaker 3: more and so what you would look for from Paul

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Speaker 3: and you know you're not you know, I don't think

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Speaker 3: you're you're going, you know, too too crazy about it

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Speaker 3: with that, and he's beyond great in that role. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know the honestly, the Clipper's best option right

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Speaker 3: now may just beat a state put, you know, or

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Speaker 3: maybe maybe make some small moves for maybe a second

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Speaker 3: round pick, maybe they sneak into the draft somewhere. But

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm not in love with getting rid of

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Speaker 3: Paul George at all. I don't. I don't, I personally

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Speaker 3: don't think that is the move.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing. It's like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 2: all these thought pieces of his Russell Westbrore gonna leave town,

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Speaker 2: like you're shrugging, like this is the thing that's gonna

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Speaker 2: put him over the top. This guy's exit whatever, it's

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Speaker 2: it's a mess for Steve Balmer. But he will have

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Speaker 2: a new state of the art facility insert requisite toilet

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Speaker 2: joke capacity and hot dog gun here. He's Ryan Hollins, I,

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Speaker 2: Mike Carbin, Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday and coming

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Speaker 2: up next. We all have those early jobs that may

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Speaker 2: have molded us. One guy had a really interesting response

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Speaker 2: at Churchill Downs about the most stress job an impactful

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Speaker 2: job he's ever had. We'll do that next. Welcome back

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Speaker 2: in Fox Sports Radio. Fox Sports Sunday coming up in

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Speaker 2: about ten minutes. Martin Wise, Carrie Rhodes, get you into

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Speaker 2: the day, get ready for Game seven, Orlando Magic, Cleveland Cavaliers,

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, action and everything going around. The latest

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Speaker 2: in the sporting universe. Mike Carmen alongside Mike got Ryan

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Speaker 2: Hollins find him at the Ryan Hollins ten years in

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Speaker 2: the NBA working with the Houston Rockets. I'm sure he's

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Speaker 2: got plenty of ask me anythings on his social media,

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Speaker 2: including breakfast foods. You gotta listen to the whole show.

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Speaker 2: Go find the podcast. It'll be up in about fifteen

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes time. Wherever you get your audio Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Hollands and Harmon. Now, Ryan, you're a man hustling in

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Speaker 2: the NBA and in the post NBA world, the media

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Speaker 2: mogul that you are, and you love the art of

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01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 2: interviews and the conversations like we have here for our

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Speaker 2: three hours. This is one of my favorites. Watching the

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Speaker 2: Kentucky Derby pre I wouldn't call it pre show because

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Speaker 2: there are races going on, but you know, you start

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Speaker 2: interviewing all the luminaries eyes that got the line in

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Speaker 2: about Travis Kelsey. Jason Garrett was on the dais and

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Speaker 2: you know, passing by answering questions, and he gave an

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Speaker 2: answer that I think we'll get dissected as the week

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Speaker 2: goes on.

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Speaker 5: You know, I grew up in a town called Mammoth

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Speaker 5: Beach and it's about three miles from Mammoth Park, a

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Speaker 5: great racetrack there. One summer, I was a paramutual until

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Speaker 5: this day, by far, the most high pressure job I've

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Speaker 5: ever had, right, I mean, there's all that time between

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Speaker 5: the races, but nobody shows up at your window till

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Speaker 5: like a minute before, and then there's fifty guys in

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Speaker 5: your line screaming at you. But great experience, Absolutely incredible

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Speaker 5: day here.

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Speaker 2: This is really fun to be here.

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Speaker 8: How much did you learn from those days of being

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Speaker 8: a mommouth Park as a young man.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think I learned a whole lot.

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Speaker 5: I've always loved horses, just seeing him being in the environment.

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Speaker 5: You know, I used to always bet on like this

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Speaker 5: long shot at the end of the day, and it

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Speaker 5: never came home for me. But it's it's incredible. It's

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Speaker 5: such a nice environment to be and it's fun. Everybody's

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Speaker 5: got their hats on. This is really a great day.

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Speaker 2: See there you go. He got to the hats, got

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Speaker 2: to the pageantry, talking about betting on long shots. But

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Speaker 2: the key the money quote talking about pressure. And this

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Speaker 2: was a guy that coached the Dallas Cowboys. When we

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Speaker 2: talked about the Los Angeles Lakers, Lebron James and the

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Speaker 2: magnifying Glass, Jerry Jones certainly brings the spotlight with his

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Speaker 2: weekly visits to the fan there in in Dallas. So

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Speaker 2: to say that being a teller for paramutual wagering was

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Speaker 2: the most pressure he head. I kind of did that,

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Speaker 2: having spent many a night hanging around racetracks and watching

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Speaker 2: how that works. I got fifteen minutes still post no action,

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Speaker 2: Maybe someone cashing a ticket as soon as they say, hey, hey,

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Speaker 2: there's two minutes two minutes, all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 2: line starts to form and you got to make sure

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Speaker 2: those tickets are right. Yeah, a lot of potential for chaos.

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Speaker 2: So shout out Monmouth Park and those and those first

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Speaker 2: jobs that teach you the skills that you need to

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Speaker 2: definitely work through information.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, look, man, sometimes you know, it's funny when

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Speaker 3: you've done something for so long, you feel pressure in

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Speaker 3: other places, you know, Like here's the thing, like I

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Speaker 3: have a I love playing flag football. In the times

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Speaker 3: that I go out and play flag football, it's a

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Speaker 3: different type of pressure, you know, and it's kind of

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Speaker 3: like you just want to you just want to try

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Speaker 3: something different, you know, and you can feel the anxiety.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's a there's just a deal when you're

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Speaker 3: trying something new, you're trying something different. So I get it.

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Speaker 3: I understand it.

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Speaker 2: I'm immediately starting to think of how i'd use you

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Speaker 2: in the red zone, get you towards the edges. I

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Speaker 2: now have an extra six yards that I could throw

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Speaker 2: the ball out of bounds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's a thing. If I drop a pass,

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Speaker 3: I feel pressure. But you know, you you think, hey,

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Speaker 3: I've kind of lived under pressure. That shouldn't be a thing,

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Speaker 3: but it's it's a thing.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's funny, right saying this was the

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Speaker 2: pressure and the guy that was in the spot that

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Speaker 2: is the pressure cooker as the quarterback, as the coach,

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Speaker 2: but again, as we talked about, you come, like Darvin

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Speaker 2: Ham to some of these organizations. You recognize what you're

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Speaker 2: walking into and the opportunity that is there if you win.

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Speaker 2: But certainly as you lose, the slings and arrows will

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Speaker 2: mount up very fast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's and that's honestly with anything. So I mean,

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Speaker 3: you get it, you gotta you gotta embrace it. And hey,

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Speaker 3: that's why you get paid the big bucks. And you know,

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Speaker 3: and unfortunately we like to call them what Mike you say,

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Speaker 3: it a lot rich people problem. So no one's gonna

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Speaker 3: unfortunately that.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, first world problems, no question about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no one's gonna feel sorry for Darvin or

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Speaker 3: a couple of those guys. And he's gonna be fine. Man.

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Speaker 3: And I think just when I hear fans speak about

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Speaker 3: Darthard Ham, for me, hold respect, have respect, keep it

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Speaker 3: in context, keep it to the sport. You don't have

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Speaker 3: to like the guy or agree.

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Speaker 2: Look at you try to be all positive. But I

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Speaker 2: now add paramutual teller to one of the list of

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Speaker 2: jobs I may have before I'm done. Martin Kerry coming

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Speaker 2: up next here on Fox