WEBVTT - Born To Run

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everybody, and it is officially underway. Dry January. Welcome everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Amy's TJ here Robes is doing this for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time ever. It's a new year and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people do dry January. You're doing it for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>You've inspired me. You do it. You've done it every

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<v Speaker 2>year for the past ten years, except for last year,

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<v Speaker 2>which is understandable.

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<v Speaker 1>Why what was different about last January?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a top January. So yes, but we're in

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<v Speaker 2>this together now, and I have never done it. I've

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<v Speaker 2>always done what I like to call a damp.

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<v Speaker 1>January, which is it makes sense though when you.

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<v Speaker 2>I reduce my drinking, but I wasn't willing to completely

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<v Speaker 2>cut it out. But this year, this month, I have agreed,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm actually excited about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have agreed. I have agreed that it's a negotiation.

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<v Speaker 2>I have agreed to have a dry January, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>excited because I do like a challenge and this will

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<v Speaker 2>certainly be one for.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, and it's more so it has been for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Open now I feel great. It takes two or three

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<v Speaker 1>days and you just forget about drinking. You get into

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<v Speaker 1>a new habit and new routine. Of alcohol not being

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<v Speaker 1>there when you have lunch or whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just it's an exercise in personal discipline. Is

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<v Speaker 1>why I like it more than anything but the health metadit.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you told me in like three or four days,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna feel the best I've ever felt.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna feel great.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wait.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you're going to be at a restaurants he's

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<v Speaker 1>abody to order in April sprits and you say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, TJ, this is killing.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is a lot of folks out there, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you that are listening. You have a new

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<v Speaker 1>Year's resolution, and most people, the overwhelming majority, do, have

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<v Speaker 1>something related to health fitness in some way. Google puts

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<v Speaker 1>out their resolutions related searches. Their top searches and working out,

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<v Speaker 1>eating healthy were the top two.

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<v Speaker 2>So can you tell the fine folks what number three

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<v Speaker 2>was because you shared that with me this morning and

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<v Speaker 2>it was disturbing.

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<v Speaker 1>Brushing teeth, you know, if it's brushing.

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<v Speaker 2>Teeth more often or three times a day, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is just in general brushing teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe everybody has something different that they filled in

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<v Speaker 1>the blank with brushing teeth more often brushing teeth every

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<v Speaker 1>other day. I don't know what they put in there,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe just brushing teeth was the search.

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<v Speaker 2>People deeply concerning.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but working out, eating healthy. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was gonna say, I love you had some

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<v Speaker 2>really fun stats for me this morning. You also told

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<v Speaker 2>me so. Strava is this app that we use a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of runners, used to monitor how many miles we run,

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<v Speaker 2>what our pace is. And it's fun. You can it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like an Instagram for runners. You can follow

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<v Speaker 2>other people, they can follow you, so you can get

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<v Speaker 2>inspired by someone else's run. And they actually compiled a

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<v Speaker 2>list of stats for last year and it was really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, it's funny that they are able to pinpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know this is just the first week of January,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't want to be a downer on some

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<v Speaker 1>of you all's health goals and resolutions that you've made,

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<v Speaker 1>but many of you listening to me are going to

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<v Speaker 1>fail miserably here in just a couple of weeks, just

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks. Yeah, they have proof, they have the evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of this. They can tell in people's trends they go

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<v Speaker 1>way up while right at the beginning of the year

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody's working out and then they start to see

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<v Speaker 1>them and that's usually the third week of January when

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<v Speaker 1>people start to fall off.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an actual date, right January nineteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>This was one that was given years past. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember which year, but yes, jov they put out this

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<v Speaker 1>was the specific day that they saw this happen.

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<v Speaker 2>People just said, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a wrap.

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<v Speaker 2>They just say, I hate running.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not just running, it's gym memberships. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest month for gym memberships. A lot of you

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<v Speaker 1>all have new ones. If you signed up for one

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<v Speaker 1>in January, chances are in six months eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to be done with your gym members July.

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<v Speaker 2>You got Yes, they're done. You're done. So everyone, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>know what it's like to have a goal, to try

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<v Speaker 2>to be disciplined and then maybe to fall off the wagon,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I mean, can I speak on that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Because there was no you may remember it. There was

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<v Speaker 1>something called fall off the wagon day. Oh okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a different day. I can't remember. I'm sorry. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>give credit to what organization put it together. But they

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<v Speaker 1>looked at activity the trends in fast food consumption and

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<v Speaker 1>the trends in working out and fall off the wagon.

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<v Speaker 1>Day is when they noticed that the trends in fast

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<v Speaker 1>food activity go up and the trends in working out

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<v Speaker 1>go down. Wow, so we start to balance out again

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<v Speaker 1>and people right go right back to the fast food

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<v Speaker 1>and right back to not working out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I think we could all use a

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<v Speaker 2>little inspiration. And there is someone here in studio with

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<v Speaker 2>us who is probably the most disciplined person I have

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<v Speaker 2>ever met. And there's no day of rest or saying

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like it today, or any of that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of mindset. And this is somebody who TJ and

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<v Speaker 2>I met a little over a year ago and we're

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<v Speaker 2>so amazed by and we thought, what a perfect person

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<v Speaker 2>to bring onto the podcast today. He's here in studio

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<v Speaker 2>with us because we could all use a little inspiration

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<v Speaker 2>as we start our health and fitness goals. His name

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<v Speaker 2>is Helicity Bay, and this is well, he's got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of really amazing fun facts that I think are

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<v Speaker 2>going to blow your mind. First of all, he was

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<v Speaker 2>the first black man to run across America from New

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<v Speaker 2>York to Los Angeles. Took him eighty four days average

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six miles a day. You're going to get to

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<v Speaker 2>ask him in just a moment. He is a former

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<v Speaker 2>professional soccer player. He was born in Molly. He also,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is wow, he is what you call a

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<v Speaker 2>run streaker. It doesn't mean he runs without clothing, which

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<v Speaker 2>is where my mind went first. I'm sorry, am I

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<v Speaker 2>the only one?

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<v Speaker 1>You're the only ones? You actually are the only one.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a run streaker, meaning he has run every single day,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of the weather, regardless of what he did the

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<v Speaker 2>night before, since twenty seventeen, so that's over six years.

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<v Speaker 2>His rules are that he imposed upon himself that he

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<v Speaker 2>has to run outdoors woo, and he has to run

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<v Speaker 2>at least two miles. But I believe he says he

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<v Speaker 2>runs on average seven miles a day. So, without further ado,

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<v Speaker 2>please welcome Hella into the iHeart Studios with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel really cool to be sitting with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh please.

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<v Speaker 3>The last time we were together was really fun. Love

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<v Speaker 3>your energy. So it's a privilege to be here and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking and chatting on with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is so and I wish more people could

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<v Speaker 1>see you right now because this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things we walked away with when we first met you.

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<v Speaker 1>That dude just makes you feel good. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>be around, you said, have a smile and a joy.

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<v Speaker 3>I really do. Since that interview, I was just like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>these are the people I want to be around. No

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<v Speaker 3>matter what happened, you leave, your chicks are heading. I

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<v Speaker 3>remember saying, all laughter and fun, that's what I like,

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<v Speaker 3>That's what life has to be about.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have a real joy of running. But it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't always start out that way. So can we ask you?

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<v Speaker 2>I said you were a run streaker. I explained what

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<v Speaker 2>that meant. How many days are you on right now?

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<v Speaker 3>So after I ran this morning, so it's day twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four hundred and twenty. Few consecutive runs.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single day, no matter what. What's the biggest circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>challenge you had, like like a logistic change, the logistical

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<v Speaker 1>challenge you were traveling, or something that you could.

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<v Speaker 3>So going to Australia in twenty nineteen, I had gorpro

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<v Speaker 3>who had invited me. So I called him really sad,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I can't do this because I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>miss my streak. And I said because of running. I

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<v Speaker 3>met you guys, and I don't want to compromise it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was really sad because I wanted to go to Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>It was twenty six hours. So they said, how can

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<v Speaker 3>we make this happen. They connected me with a travel agent,

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<v Speaker 3>so I took four flights so I can get to Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>so I can stop and get off the plane and

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<v Speaker 3>might run it. Oh, so we made that happen. So

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<v Speaker 3>I broke it out. I did a whole full YouTube

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<v Speaker 3>video on it, like explaining the whole scenario, had video

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<v Speaker 3>clips how I kept the streak alive. So that was

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<v Speaker 3>a little tough logistically, but after that I got the

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<v Speaker 3>routine of it. When I went to South Africa, I

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<v Speaker 3>stopped in Germany for fifteen hours so I can run.

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<v Speaker 3>When I went back home to Mali recently, I make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that there was plenty of time when I landed

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<v Speaker 3>that I can run before the twenty four hour window

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<v Speaker 3>was closed.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't like direct flights, I don't like flights.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't do it lesson. It's like in the trans

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<v Speaker 3>continental which is why I'll have plenty of time, but

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<v Speaker 3>I have to stop now.

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<v Speaker 1>You said those were some of your challenges what is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the you remember a wacky or a weird

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<v Speaker 1>thing you had to do or a place you had

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<v Speaker 1>to run that normally you wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Well running across America. And also with the first Black Man,

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<v Speaker 3>it's unofficial, but for one hundred percent concept first African

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<v Speaker 3>because there was all these like, well, these guys did this,

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<v Speaker 3>so I was just like, Okay, I'm just gonna saity.

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<v Speaker 3>Unofficial with that, but running through Arizona was really sketchy

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<v Speaker 3>and really scary. Yeah, I was scared for my life

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<v Speaker 3>and many times I went through some times where like

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<v Speaker 3>literally there's like a black figure that's being you go

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<v Speaker 3>through the day. It was just like whoa. And those

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<v Speaker 3>areas I've never had to run so fast in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be so disturant, so beat out. But I was

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<v Speaker 3>just like, you got to pick it up so you

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<v Speaker 3>can get out of those areas. Those has happened and

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<v Speaker 3>getting chased by dogs and things like that. But there

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot of more beautiful part than that. But

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<v Speaker 3>there's been some sketchy areas during the chance what.

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<v Speaker 1>He described, I've driven through some places in the South.

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<v Speaker 2>Running is a little bit different though, right you're a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more exposed there can I ask you, what

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<v Speaker 2>was the day that you said? Today's day one, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>So day one I said May fifteen, twenty seventeen, but

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<v Speaker 3>it happened three days before. I just don't have proof

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<v Speaker 3>of it. So May fifteenth, I started using my watch.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like run every single day from May fifteenth of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seventeen up until today. But I started like a

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<v Speaker 3>few days prior to that. I just got to a

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<v Speaker 3>point where I was just sick of everything that was

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<v Speaker 3>happening in my life, and I just wanted to stop

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<v Speaker 3>making excuses. I grew up playing soccer. I went to

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<v Speaker 3>the University of Massachusetts playing soccer, and I had professional potentials.

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<v Speaker 3>Pro Teams were coming after me, and then they always

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<v Speaker 3>come down to hell, I we want you, but visa status,

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<v Speaker 3>we got to try to sponsor you. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of money. We'd rather pick a domestic player who was

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<v Speaker 3>a resident, even if they have less talent than you.

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<v Speaker 3>We can develop them and get them to where you are.

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<v Speaker 3>What are having to pay all of the money, all

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<v Speaker 3>the visa stuff that's not even guaranteed. So I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to stop pointing fingers. So I was depressed. I was

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<v Speaker 3>always been a happy person, but my dream was getting

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<v Speaker 3>pulled away. The first dream was being a pilot that

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<v Speaker 3>was pulled away since ninety eleven you can't be on

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<v Speaker 3>a visa, and I had finished ground school already, it

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<v Speaker 3>was ready for air school. One day, stripped out away.

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<v Speaker 3>Soccer was my next dream, stripped away. So I just say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, face something you're afraid of that you're

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<v Speaker 3>scared and running. Hit me immediately because it was used

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<v Speaker 3>as a punishment playing soccer, so I went for it.

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<v Speaker 1>You use it, you said. Those were two dreams, yes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that were kind of taken away, pulled away for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you have a third one? Right? Was there

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<v Speaker 1>even something else that was a backup? Playing to back

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<v Speaker 1>up my third one?

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<v Speaker 3>That was the last one. That's why I just went

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<v Speaker 3>into this dark space that I couldn't get out of.

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<v Speaker 3>I was miserable. You would look at me amy, I'd

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<v Speaker 3>be pissed for nor you would smile at me. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to look at me, like, why are you

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<v Speaker 3>smiling at me? That's how stuff I was. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not a professional, but looking back, it was definitely signs

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<v Speaker 3>of depression, signs.

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<v Speaker 2>Of depression, and I recall you were you were in

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<v Speaker 2>a tough spot financially as well. Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah. When I signed a professional contract in Seattle

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<v Speaker 3>for one year, which was a US second division under

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<v Speaker 3>the Seattle Sounders Kisse Hap Pumas, and I remember the

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<v Speaker 3>first week we were going to do grocery with teammates

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<v Speaker 3>and I had zero dow on my bank account and

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<v Speaker 3>I knew that, so we went to a store similar

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<v Speaker 3>to Aldi. We went to a cheap place. Everybody filled

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<v Speaker 3>up their card. I did mine too, and I get

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<v Speaker 3>to the checkout line. Something told me, my God told me,

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<v Speaker 3>your card's gonna get rejected. Because I've had times where

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<v Speaker 3>I purposely know I had zero dollars and I'll swipe

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<v Speaker 3>the card, it'll charge it, and I'll be negative and

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be charged the fee. I thought that was gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 3>but something told me, hell and not today, So in

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<v Speaker 3>a way, I was up. Next. I moved my card,

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<v Speaker 3>I sneakly went into the aisle and started putting stuff away.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we were finished releaving, my teammate said, hell,

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<v Speaker 3>I you didn't get anything. I said, no, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I like anything in this store. I'm not really hungry,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was dying hungry. So I snugged my room

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<v Speaker 3>and call Bank of America at the time. I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I know I have zero dollars in my count can

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<v Speaker 3>you guys a lot overdrafting? So I'll be I'll charge

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be charged with the fee and everything. And I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I promise you I'm getting my first check the following friday.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a professional soccer player. You can google me. There's

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<v Speaker 3>articles everywhere, and then this is how much I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get paid. I'll pay you guys. They didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>do it, so I asked for a manager. The manager

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<v Speaker 3>came in and said, hey, I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 3>guarantee or not, even though you're showing, even if you're

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<v Speaker 3>on the internet, but I'm going to give you thirty

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<v Speaker 3>dollar credit so you can go get grocery. So that

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<v Speaker 3>was life changing. Thirty dollar credit got me a week

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<v Speaker 3>worth of food. It was like at the time I

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<v Speaker 3>was in vegan, but I got turkey slices, I got bread,

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<v Speaker 3>I got cereal bars. So that was a full week

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<v Speaker 3>of grocery. So that day I was at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>I was embarrassed to ask for family members, Hey can

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<v Speaker 3>I give money? You're a pro? Who does that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? So?

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<v Speaker 3>But to the lighter side, last year, Bank of America

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<v Speaker 3>invited me to speak in front of six other people

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<v Speaker 3>one percent top bankers said, what a full circle? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, how do you tell folks who listen? We got

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<v Speaker 1>here for the inspirational story about your running. But a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people just listen to what you said. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've all at some point in our lives had a

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<v Speaker 1>scary moment at that grocery store, had that scary moment

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<v Speaker 1>of this card going to go through. But for you,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it about the embarrassment? Because I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>all been ashamed to ask for help.

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<v Speaker 3>Gentimes, Yeah, you get looked at and a weird way.

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<v Speaker 3>I was on Facebook pages twenty players selected out of

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<v Speaker 3>four hundred, so people expected you to have everything, and

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<v Speaker 3>even having own family members saying why don't you get

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<v Speaker 3>a real job. You're chasing this dream that's not real.

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<v Speaker 3>And as far as and I tell my dad, my

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<v Speaker 3>dad was like no discouraging even when I got into

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<v Speaker 3>this run stuff. So people who were even closer to home,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's like I can't even go and ask them

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't even think I'm serious about life or

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to better myself. So there's so much behind it,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're kind of hiding it and bottle it up,

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<v Speaker 3>and you don't know what to do, and you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to ask for a helping hand even though you should.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, and it's pretty incredible. You said for Full Circle,

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<v Speaker 2>that's an understatement with the Bank of America. I love

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<v Speaker 2>that story. That's phenomenal. I also love how you said

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<v Speaker 2>you took something that was a punishment in soccer, which

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<v Speaker 2>was running, and owned it. How did you get your

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<v Speaker 2>mind to flip that.

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<v Speaker 3>I being an athlete, I knew that I'm in control

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<v Speaker 3>of my physical movement, even though it can be tough.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just told myself, hey, do something that you're

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<v Speaker 3>afraid of running hit me because it was like I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't sleep nice before fitness there, so it was just

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<v Speaker 3>so bad. So I decided to just said, let's try that.

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<v Speaker 3>Give it a chance, and ten minutes a day, no pressure,

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<v Speaker 3>no coach is yelling at you. Why in the back

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<v Speaker 3>of the line, it's just you that gets to decide

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to stop or keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>How it always works? You tell me, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>do something. I'm pissed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I decided.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks, we got Hella in studio with us, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell probably already why we love this guy. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue with our conversation with him when we

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<v Speaker 1>all right back here, Amy TJ with Hella in studio

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<v Speaker 1>with us. A run streaker who is on what day?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me the day again? Three three days.

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<v Speaker 2>Running twenty six? Right? You said you just can't prove it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't count it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I was curious what happened that guy? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever happened to that guy? And it? Did?

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<v Speaker 1>You talk to him again? The Bank of America guy

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<v Speaker 1>who gave you a thirty dollars credit I was.

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<v Speaker 3>There with, literally was one of their CEO. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>can you find somebody in Washington? I would love to

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<v Speaker 3>thank him because that day, imagine you have to performance

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<v Speaker 3>the highest physical being and you don't have any food,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have the energy. So he saved me that day,

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<v Speaker 3>the whole week leading up till I got my first check.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wanted to thank him. I said that to them,

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<v Speaker 3>if they can ever find and I took some numbers

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<v Speaker 3>down to follow up. But I would love to thank him.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, this is a guy who this wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of some Bank of America policy. He just made wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know they can find it because they told

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<v Speaker 3>me that I have history with them. If they look

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<v Speaker 3>up my name, my Sulcer security, they can find my

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<v Speaker 3>account and I'm sure they can track back and see

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<v Speaker 3>the history thirteen yeah, ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's listening. That would be pretty cool, Hella. I

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<v Speaker 2>obviously you ran across America averaging thirty six miles a day.

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<v Speaker 2>You were going through mountainous terrain. You've done ultra marathons,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet we ran our first marathon, I believe, on

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<v Speaker 2>the same year, in New York City Marathon twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>But you didn't train for it from what I've read.

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<v Speaker 2>But you, the three of us all ran this last marathon,

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<v Speaker 2>New York City twenty twenty three, and you were nervous

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<v Speaker 2>before running it.

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<v Speaker 3>This one that I guess you.

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<v Speaker 2>I read that you trained for it for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Boston Marathon. Oh, the Boston Marathon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, How how would someone like you actually still

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<v Speaker 2>have nerves?

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<v Speaker 3>It's for running, because the one hundred mile race I

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<v Speaker 3>had zero nerve. Both of them let the one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>zero Nerve Western one hundred, which is the oldest hundred

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<v Speaker 3>mile race zero nerve. Because I had experience running across America,

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<v Speaker 3>you learn how to deal with your body and your mind,

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<v Speaker 3>how to fuel when you need to, how to force

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<v Speaker 3>feed yourself when you don't have any appetite because your

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<v Speaker 3>body is still burning calories. We're talking about I've burned

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen thousand calories over one hundred miles. So I had

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<v Speaker 3>the tactic and logistic to figure problem solve because I

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<v Speaker 3>did it for eighty four days, so that was nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I just know how to put the workout in and

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be fine. But the Boston Marathon, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>run out of threshold pace. We're talking about holding no

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<v Speaker 3>less than six minute thirty six miles six minut thirty

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<v Speaker 3>six seconds per mile. So knowing that I have to

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<v Speaker 3>hold that pace is another challenge within itself. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>why I was nervous for the Boston Marathon. And as

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<v Speaker 3>clearly as the course is that as more.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, six thirty I can't run from the

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<v Speaker 1>cops the six thirty pace. That's what you say, now,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll test that theory, and how.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you do? I missed my goal by a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>and the sub through is by one minute thirty four.

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<v Speaker 3>But I actually this is for the first time I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to say I was thinking, like, no slower than

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<v Speaker 3>two fifty. I trained really hard. I went to the

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<v Speaker 3>Boston course two times and ran on the course, went

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<v Speaker 3>over Heartbreak Hill, the toughest part of the race, holding

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<v Speaker 3>six thirty six for mye I did a twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>mile long run. I did an eighteen mile long run,

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<v Speaker 3>seven out of ten level. So I was fine that

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<v Speaker 3>day of the race. I don't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just stuck in this space I can get

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<v Speaker 3>out of. So this year's redemption year, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>out there. I'm finding a flat horse and I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to I'm saying this publicly. I'm going to run a

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<v Speaker 3>fast marathon. I'm preparing really well for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe you, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think you will you for you, what's a fast marathon?

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<v Speaker 3>I needed too forty five. And I don't like to

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<v Speaker 3>put my goal out there like that. I just like

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<v Speaker 3>keep it quiet and then say hey, look, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to say it because I'm going to work hard,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it takes, if anything within my control, I need

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<v Speaker 3>to get a two hour forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it's so funny that you say that, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably the biggest question people ask when they find out

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<v Speaker 2>you're running any race, a half marathon, a marathon, even

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<v Speaker 2>a ten k. What do you want your finished time

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<v Speaker 2>to be? And I never want.

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<v Speaker 3>To say you save yourself from these Too much pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>It's way too much pressure. And every race is different,

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<v Speaker 2>the weather, the terrain, what you ate last night.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it can be best prepared and then you

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<v Speaker 3>get humbled. Oh I didn't know that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's stop, make sing a little funny. Why does a

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<v Speaker 3>little stomach.

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<v Speaker 2>TJ actually had to stop. We were on such good

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<v Speaker 2>pace this past marathon.

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<v Speaker 1>We were crushing it, rushing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet not by your standards, but by our standards and

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<v Speaker 2>my stomach. At mile twenty two twenty three, I I

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<v Speaker 2>actually threw up on myself and then I had to

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<v Speaker 2>go off to the side and finish.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt awful, and we with the two of us

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<v Speaker 1>standing there, Hey, everybody, it happened. Get a look.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents were tracking me and they were like, what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Five minutes and I was like, yeah, I might have

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<v Speaker 2>been vomiting.

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<v Speaker 3>We did finish, Yes, that's all that matters at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was still my best time ever. But it

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<v Speaker 2>could have been so much better.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, imagine, isn't that amazing to know if that didn't happen?

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<v Speaker 3>So next time, we hope that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And hell please, this was not a quick little she

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<v Speaker 1>We were on the side five plus minutes, maybe even ceased.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was seizing and I had to let

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<v Speaker 2>it do it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not even just about the time you wasted.

0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Is the rhythm that you just got, so you going

0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:37.919
<v Speaker 3>back to picking up that rhythm, it's much tougher, So

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<v Speaker 3>huge quotas to you because going back in there to

0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:42.720
<v Speaker 3>that flow, because as soon as you stop, especially of course,

0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.400
<v Speaker 3>like your leg starts to tense up, your muscles starts

0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:48.199
<v Speaker 3>to and then it hunts you. So you guys are

0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.920
<v Speaker 3>trooper to stop that long and resumed the run. Well

0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:52.080
<v Speaker 3>that's why I don't even want to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I was grateful. I was grateful to him.

0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:56.959
<v Speaker 2>I was like, please keep going. He's like, obviously I'm not.

0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.880
<v Speaker 2>But I would have been totally understanding if he had,

0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:02.840
<v Speaker 2>because as a runner, you know what it means to

0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.760
<v Speaker 2>have to stop your rhythm. In terms of understanding runners,

0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you get this A lot. People just ask

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.520
<v Speaker 2>why why? Because it's hard, it's not easy, and all

0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:14.240
<v Speaker 2>of us have runs where we want to stop and

0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:15.879
<v Speaker 2>we don't want to keep going, and a lot of

0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.680
<v Speaker 2>ones where we don't want to start. Yes, why do

0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:20.240
<v Speaker 2>you run? What's the joy?

0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:22.840
<v Speaker 3>It's changed my life in so many ways, not even

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<v Speaker 3>like the extras I'm talking about how I feel good mentally.

0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:28.520
<v Speaker 3>I just find myself smiling because I feel like I

0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:31.440
<v Speaker 3>conquered something that day. Even today was freezing when I

0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:34.320
<v Speaker 3>started with twenty six degrees, but when I was out there,

0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I felt like I was a trooper. You feel like

0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:38.320
<v Speaker 3>a warrior, Like I can go out there and.

0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Battle this cold that I.

0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:42.399
<v Speaker 3>Get to just endure for an hour, which is nothing

0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:44.560
<v Speaker 3>out of my whole day, and then when I'm done,

0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:47.120
<v Speaker 3>I just feel accomplished. I feel in vincent. I feel

0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:50.040
<v Speaker 3>like nothing can stop me. So that feeling alone was

0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.199
<v Speaker 3>everything to me, and it makes me when I get

0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.560
<v Speaker 3>out there every day to keep proving to myself. But

0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 3>what really helps me nowadays is running is a privilege

0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:00.960
<v Speaker 3>that everyone has. There's people out there who can't watch run.

0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:02.879
<v Speaker 3>I see it all the time. The more you run outside,

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.560
<v Speaker 3>you see people who are emputee by accident, by war,

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.280
<v Speaker 3>by birth. So it's almost like insult to me that

0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm not using my privilege. They would do anything to

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<v Speaker 3>have the ability that I have. So in my back,

0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:14.320
<v Speaker 3>in my mind, I'm doing it for them every day

0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 3>because that would love to have what I have.

0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.120
<v Speaker 1>You see the back of your mind. And I wanted

0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:20.040
<v Speaker 1>to get to the mental part of all of this.

0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 1>The physical to hear you run an ultra marathon, you

0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:25.560
<v Speaker 1>run one hundred mile. That's just insane to most people,

0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:28.320
<v Speaker 1>right physically that you can do that, But the part

0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 1>about the mental still right, sometimes you don't want to

0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:35.520
<v Speaker 1>even go. But then there are some times where you're

0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.160
<v Speaker 1>out there you don't even want to stop. How does

0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:40.399
<v Speaker 1>how do you have you tricked your brain? Even as

0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:42.679
<v Speaker 1>much running as you do, How much tricking of your

0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 1>brain are you still having to do?

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<v Speaker 3>You have to be crazy enough to tell yourself that

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.640
<v Speaker 3>you can do it. You got to literally tame yourself,

0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.359
<v Speaker 3>be a child, imagine, oh I can do this. But

0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:53.000
<v Speaker 3>also you got to be smart enough to do the

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:56.320
<v Speaker 3>training while tricking yourself in that way. But I always

0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:58.159
<v Speaker 3>tell people, we go out there to do these races

0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:00.560
<v Speaker 3>and we get mad and we complain, why who's you up?

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:02.840
<v Speaker 3>You did you do so? I said, I sign up

0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:04.600
<v Speaker 3>for this. No one made me do this, so I

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.280
<v Speaker 3>better shut up and just keep going. If I want

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 3>to stop, hang my bib up, and that's okay, walk

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:11.880
<v Speaker 3>off the course. No one's gonna come and say, hey,

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 3>you sink, but you tried. At the end of the day,

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:16.200
<v Speaker 3>you try. So I have it in the back on

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 3>my I sign up for this, and I have this

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:20.400
<v Speaker 3>mindset no matter the circumstances. If I have to crawl,

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.119
<v Speaker 3>I'll crawl. I have thirty hours to finish one hundred miles,

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 3>which is good to know, but whatever it takes, I'll

0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:27.639
<v Speaker 3>get it done. And then you have to also know

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.640
<v Speaker 3>with these races, as the high gets to the highest point,

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.800
<v Speaker 3>don't get too excited because it's gonna dip right back down.

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.479
<v Speaker 3>But low as low as you are, just know that

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 3>hold on a little longer you're gonna get a new

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 3>high again. So you just up and down. So whenever

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:43.320
<v Speaker 3>you're up, no you're gonna go down whenever you're downe No,

0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna stay there. So you just have to

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 3>play that game. And sometime when you're down, you think

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 3>it's coming soon. It comes forever, but there's a hope

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 3>that it's going to come. So that's gonna get you. Oh,

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 3>I just cover another thirty miles waiting for this. I

0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 3>had to come again. Now I see it. But you

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 3>just cover thirty miles. But you were suffering, but you

0:23:57.880 --> 0:23:59.719
<v Speaker 3>were expecting it to come, which helps mentally.

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:03.120
<v Speaker 2>And I know that you said among your rules they

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:05.439
<v Speaker 2>have to be outside. The run also has to be

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:09.400
<v Speaker 2>at least two miles. What's a two mile day for you?

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Are you?

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Did you have too much fun the night before? Did

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 2>you not sleep that well for you to say I'm

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:16.359
<v Speaker 2>only going to do two miles today.

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 3>So there's two example. One just happened recently. So when

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 3>I was leaving Mali to come to the US. It's

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 3>really tricky with the flights. So I got up five

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 3>in the morning and there's a big field behind my house.

0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 3>So I did laps for two miles and I just

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:31.360
<v Speaker 3>did circles. I just want to make sure I get

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 3>my run Downe so five in the morning and Maley

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.119
<v Speaker 3>was midnight here, so it's already the next day. So

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to be saved before I get on a flight.

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 3>I get trapped in the tarmac for twelve hours. Next

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 3>thing you know, I'm landing, it's already midnight. I don't

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 3>want to compromise my run street, so I did that.

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 3>And though crazy thing is in Mali you have to

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 3>be at the airport for three hours before the flight.

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 3>It's not like here you can show up you have

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 3>like tsa pre check. No, you got to shove early

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 3>like anybody else. So the earliest I could do was

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 3>five am there, so it's at least midnight. If I

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 3>want any earlier than that, it would be still the

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:01.679
<v Speaker 3>same day before. So when I did that, when I

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 3>got to the US at seven thirty pm, I got

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 3>home ate something and I got out there again at

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 3>ten pm and did an extra two miles, so it

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 3>was four total. So that got me to add a

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:12.919
<v Speaker 3>little more to it. And another example was when I

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 3>had a wisdom teeth issue. So I had a wisdom

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:17.199
<v Speaker 3>tooth that was coming out and there was a molar

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 3>going up that was the wisdom tooth was blocking the molars.

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 3>The molars coming down on my jaw in the bone,

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 3>so it's making the bone very thick and thin and fragile.

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I could crack. So I got the wisdom, removed the

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 3>molar shape, and I had to do an endplant so

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 3>there's no gap back there. So when I did that

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 3>surgery before going in, I got up to run six

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 3>in the morning. Surgery was at eight, and I told

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 3>my dots. I told the author's surgeon, Hey, if I

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 3>can't run, I'm not doing this. He's like, well, you're

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 3>not going to have a teeth and you're going to

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.120
<v Speaker 3>actually lose sensitivity in your nerves and you can't talk anymore,

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 3>so you decide. So I said, my paints sound was

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:52.720
<v Speaker 3>pretty high, so he only prescribed me high advil. And

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 3>so the next day I waited till eight at night

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:57.880
<v Speaker 3>and I went out to run two miles. The reason

0:25:57.880 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 3>I kept it at two miles because he did say

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 3>something that blood pressure. So the more I was out there,

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 3>my mouth was getting full of blood. So it wasn't

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 3>about I couldn't handle more than two miles, but it

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 3>was safer for me to stop the bleeding, so I

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:09.399
<v Speaker 3>just tapped.

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Ay, wow, nothing is going to stop this streak.

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.920
<v Speaker 3>That's my goal. Physical within my control, that's it.

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>And you haven't had an injury issue that stopped you

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>from the streak.

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 3>I've had injuries, but it didn't stop me, and it

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 3>was so bad. I've had pustration injury where lasted sixty

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 3>plus days where I get home I'm in so much

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 3>pain I go hide in the back of the room

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 3>stopping myself from crying and pain. And I've had that.

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 3>So the second time it happened, I cut my mileage

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 3>from sixty miles a week to twenty one, which is

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:35.919
<v Speaker 3>three a days. That wasn't working. I cut it to

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 3>two a days to fourteen miles away until I got

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 3>rid of this injury. But there's no really way for

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:43.439
<v Speaker 3>me to say, hey, I'm going to because I look

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:45.199
<v Speaker 3>at running as life. I'm not going to tap out

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 3>and throw my talent in the back and say that's it.

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna do my best with with it whatever

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 3>circumstances I'm dealing with. So that's the goal.

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you've had people come up to you and

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 2>just say you're an inspiration, but I can't run even

0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 2>though they're not injured and they actually, we know physical,

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 2>we can run. What would you say to somebody who

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 2>wants to start a regimen nothing like yours, but maybe

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 2>just to even run a mile a day or two

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 2>miles every other day. How do you motivate someone to say,

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 2>this is actually something that can be beautiful and joyful

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 2>and beneficial in so many ways.

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes, So first, being peckable with your word. Whatever you

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 3>say is what you're gonna do. So be nice to yourself.

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 3>Say it may be hard, but I can try. You

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 3>don't have to say I can't. I can try. And

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 3>I said, do something attainable. You don't have to go

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 3>out there and do ten miles. I know if I

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 3>were to start five miles a day, I could have

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 3>done that. I would have been done within a week probably.

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.199
<v Speaker 3>I said ten minutes. It was time. It was in distance,

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:41.880
<v Speaker 3>so I was covering at just over a mile. So

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 3>do something attainable and do a pressure free. The pressure

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 3>free was the biggest one for me because no coach

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 3>was yelling at me. It wasn't anyone pointing fingers, Hey

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 3>you're too slow. How come you're in the back of

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 3>the pack, how come you're not up front? It was

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Milen will. So if you do it with pressure free,

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:57.679
<v Speaker 3>that's amazing, which meaning if you can only jog for

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 3>thirty seconds at a time and you gotta walk for

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 3>two minutes, I count that as a run, because not everybody.

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 3>I can't tell somebody because you didn't do a mile,

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't count. If your capability is thirty seconds at

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 3>a time and then you have to walk and repeat,

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:11.959
<v Speaker 3>that that counts. So this is why I love run shrinking.

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 3>But there's a run strict association that I disagree with.

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:16.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't like that page. I hope it didn't exist.

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 3>They said, if you don't run a mile a day,

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't count. And I said, who am I to

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 3>tell somebody who is physically not able to do a

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.719
<v Speaker 3>mile without if they can only do five minutes, If

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 3>that's not covering a mile, you're now going to tell

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 3>me that. I'm going to go tell them, Hey, that

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 3>doesn't count. Their capability is five minutes. So whatever pressure

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 3>free is the best, and you do how you want it,

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 3>You say your own rules, and when you do that,

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 3>you find yourself going longer, further, being better because you're

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 3>getting better and you're feeling comfortable and you don't have

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 3>to worry about the outside notes, which is really hard

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 3>to do.

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>All right, we are here with Hella quick break, but

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>when we come back, we're going to ask him as

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>we wrap up, about two things when it comes to running,

0:28:57.720 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're just getting started, that are going to be

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>key to your success. We continue in just.

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 2>A moment, Amy and TJ back here with our good

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 2>friend and constant inspiration for at least my running is Hella,

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 2>and he is here to talk a little bit about

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 2>how to motivate all of us to keep up maybe

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 2>our own run streaks, maybe not quite the way you

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 2>do it, but one of your tips. And I love

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 2>this because TJ and I live this. Is it better

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 2>when you have someone running with you.

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I'd rather wrong with people than by myself. It

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 3>just time. It might not be the fastest pace, but

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 3>it feels like it was the fastest time. You could

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 3>be running a ten minute mile pace for ten miles

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 3>you're like, oh, we finished ten miles already. Because there's

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 3>so many conversations going on, there's so many things that

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 3>you get to share with each other. It makes the

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 3>time just goes so much quicker, and you don't think

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<v Speaker 3>about the pain of running, because there's you're with each other.

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 2>There's that African proverb, right, if.

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 3>You want to go fast, you go along. If you

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 3>want to go far, you go together.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>She has that acts all the time.

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 3>I love that. I live by that.

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>You talk also ahead.

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll slow you down.

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 3>So oh no, no, no, you're the one that.

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Got me out there in the first place.

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 3>So it never has their own little things that they

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 3>bring to the table.

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 1>And I would much prefer always to run with somebody

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 1>me too, always. And we were talking about Strava their stats,

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>but one of them they put out is that their

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>percentage of like ten and twenty percent people run, they

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>go faster, and they go farther if they're with a group. Yes,

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>they have statistics that you're.

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Much And I run with people who are faster than

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 3>me and they pull me. I'm like, well, there's no

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 3>out have been able to do that by myself because

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 3>I just don't. I don't have that capability in my

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 3>mind to pull myself because sometimes you hold yourself back

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 3>a little bit. So it helps them so many ways,

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 3>it really does.

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 2>DJ's just asking me if he can now take the lead,

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 2>and I follow him, so that he can pull me.

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>But it is we run different. He's different, naturally. I

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>always run behind her and we don't talk during the runs.

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>You do like talking to people, okay.

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah we did on vacation. Yeah, and it did go

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>by very.

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Quickly always, but you don't like to talk during the runs.

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 3>You know what it is, slow down, slow enough that

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 3>you can have a conversation like this conversational pace, because

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 3>that's also building a retal big strengths schedule on muscular strengths.

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 3>You're not missing anything out of that. There's a saying

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 3>run slowly, run faster. So if you feel like you

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 3>don't want to talk because you want to focus on

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 3>your breath, go much slower, then breath will be an

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 3>issue and you will conversate and you're actually building a

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 3>different type of fitness.

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>See. That's when I first I think I told you

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>it was Matt, Matt James. I went on a run

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>with him, a friend of ours, and he wanted to

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>talk and we ran five miles like I can't talk

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>for five that five miles went through, we were in

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>natural conversation. That's when I said, oh, maybe I'm in

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty good shape.

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Here, yes, yes, And I feel like you get so

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 3>much different, like adrenaline through your body. We're like a

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 3>pace like that. By yourself, you might be breathing a

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 3>little heavier, but that also gets calmed down because your

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 3>body is at a different state with people.

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>The other thing they say is key to success is

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>setting a goal. Not just a goal of I'm going

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>to run a mile to their happ but some people

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>if you set a goal of I'm going to do

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the five k that's in three months, yes, you have

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a much greater chance of success.

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:16.959
<v Speaker 3>I agree. My streak started with ten minutes of there

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 3>for two weeks. It was a two weeks goal turned

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 3>into six plus years, so I had to start somewhere.

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 3>I didn't say I'm going to run every day for

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 3>a year. After the two weeks ago, I'm like, I

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.239
<v Speaker 3>don't think I'm going to stop for at least three

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 3>hundred and six five days. But I didn't jump to

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 3>the three hundred and six five days at first. It

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 3>has to be something small goal that leads up to

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 3>the bigger picture.

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 2>All right, we heard your Boston Marathon goal, but do

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 2>you have any other goals for this year?

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? So I want to actually getting to rather down

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 3>for this spring because I'll be honest, it's flatter. It's

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 3>flat as pancake. So I want flat and fast. So

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 3>that's the redemption from Boston. Yeah, redemption year. So also

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 3>I want to do a run in Semany, France, which

0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 3>is the UTM. Have you guys ever been there?

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I have been to show it is one of the

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 2>most beautiful towns in the world.

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 3>I want two years back to back and it's amazing.

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 3>During a UTMB, which is like the biggest ultra marathon.

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Weekend, are you running? So I climbed. I did some

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 2>technical climbing on the MIDI is what they call it.

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 2>You're not running up there, are you?

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 3>You go through all the mountains I was talking about Switzerland,

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 3>France and Italy and back into.

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Twelve thousand feet thirteen thousand feet.

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah there, You're high up there and it's insane. It's

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 3>a tough race. So I'm not going to do the

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and six mile race there. It will be

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 3>like the fifty plus Klimeter So over thirty miles that's the.

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>REA and then Gez come on.

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Massive elevation, elevation, that's what I'm considering that the elevation

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 2>is anything over nine thousand, Yes, you have less oxy.

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be a fool and then say

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm going a little shorter but higher elevation. But I

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 3>will do one hundred mile race in October this year too,

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 3>so it'll be two ultra marathon, one longer than the

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 3>other in a marathon in the spring. So that's my

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 3>ultimate goal, and I hope I can get out there

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 3>for the Olympics and pairs just to be there.

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I just love any.

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Running events, so maybe I'll do their marathon. Because they're

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.919
<v Speaker 3>actually allowing regular people run marathons Olympics this time, so

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 3>you can. Actually there's an app as well, where like

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 3>you can do challenges. They'll say you have to run

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 3>five k by a PM, so they'll select you and

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:21.800
<v Speaker 3>give you random bibs. So there's an app that I

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 3>have signed up for. There's challenges that if you can complete,

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 3>so they're gonna get I think it's gonna be like

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:28.479
<v Speaker 3>twenty thousand plus runners, so they at least are gonna

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 3>take off like a regular marathon like the Olympians, and

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 3>then US regular average runners are gonna go after so

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 3>people can run the Olympics this year. That's amazing so

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to, like, if I can get in, I

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:41.760
<v Speaker 3>don't care about time at that point, I'm just gonna

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 3>say I ran at the Olympics. We're not gonna start

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 3>an Olympian, but I run at the Olympics. There's connections.

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to I'm exploring every option.

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Way. You just massively peaked our interest.

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that would be epic, and you can

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 3>go yeah, and then you go do something like that.

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 3>You can just be part of the world coming together

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 3>every foty year. That's what's best about the Olympics. So

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 3>and running is one of the biggest things that bring

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 3>us together. So I hope I can get into that

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 3>as well. That'll be like a side thing. Just do

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 3>it for fun, just do it for fun and spectate.

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and I love what you said about running

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 2>bringing us together. I feel like that at every race.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that. Even when I'm running down the

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 2>West Side Highway, you see other runners. There's just this

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:27.359
<v Speaker 2>there's a community, there's a camaraderie and you everyone's looking

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 2>at each other knowing that you're probably suffering slightly, yes,

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 2>but you're doing it anyway exactly. And there's some sort

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:38.800
<v Speaker 2>of I don't know, fun camaraderie to that commitment.

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and helping each other too is big, like pulling somebody.

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 3>One of my best experiences on last year was actually

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 3>not even my one hundred mile race or any of that.

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 3>It was I helped a blind runner and finish the

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.879
<v Speaker 3>New York City Marathon. It was the most fulfilling thing

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 3>I've ever experienced throughout this run streak. So it wasn't

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 3>about me and my time, but the smile of his

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 3>face that we hit his goal and the excitement that

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 3>he had. Rolando is his name, was just like, Wow,

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 3>this is bigger than me, and it reinforced that. So

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 3>helping each other running does that. And we help each

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 3>other in ways that we don't even know even, like

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 3>you said, you guys running together, you're helping each other

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 3>without even thinking about it. I think that's important too.

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in the past couple of years, I mean, on

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 1>one hand, we could probably count how many runs we

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:22.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't do together.

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:24.240
<v Speaker 3>See that's amazing.

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you you are into helping others.

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:27.439
<v Speaker 3>I know that you give back.

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 2>This isn't just about your personal goals or what you

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 2>can accomplish. You want to give back and I know

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 2>you found it in organization Sols for Souls. Tell us

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 2>a little bit about it because it really is inspirational.

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes. So, Social SOL is a nonprofit that take on

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 3>one to shoes, newer youth and clothing and turn into opportunity.

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 3>And their biggest goal is to you know, you feed

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 3>up man. They live for a day, you teach them

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 3>how to fish, they can live for it longer. So

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 3>that's the goal. They've helped so many people by giving

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 3>us shoes and new shoes that can turn into business

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of first world country and thorough all country,

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:00.959
<v Speaker 3>so it's not just like thorough countries. Even in the US,

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:02.760
<v Speaker 3>there's people here that don't have a pair of shoes.

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 3>And the reason this worked out perfectly, I grew up

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.800
<v Speaker 3>in West Africa. A pair of shoes doesn't come often.

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:09.439
<v Speaker 3>So we're talking about you have one pair of shoes,

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 3>you have to use it for five years, and we

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 3>take care of it so much. I wouldn't wear my

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 3>new shoes until if it's occasion, if it's like holidays.

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 3>Otherwise it's not every day you're walking on barefoot or

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 3>you have sandals on, and sometimes you outgrow their shoes

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 3>It's not that you didn't take care of it, you

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 3>just outgrew it and you don't know where your next

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:26.839
<v Speaker 3>pair is going to come from. So for running too,

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 3>all you need is a pair of shoes. So it

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 3>really works really well for me to say, you know what,

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 3>this nonprofit is perfect to run across the country for.

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Hello. The last thing I want to get you out

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 1>of here on is a lot of people might be

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>curious a guy who runs as much as you do,

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 1>what your gear is. Do you have a favorite type

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:49.320
<v Speaker 1>of your shoes? Agree, that's okay, But your shoe, your watch,

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the app you use, what is your go to? I

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 1>just want to make this clear. To run, you don't

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 1>need any of the stuff that I have. All you

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:59.240
<v Speaker 1>need is your shoes and have your body parts covered.

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>You don't even need a watch. You can just go

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>by field. But I love running shoes. I live by it.

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I dissected, I review them. I love super shoes, and

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I do think that they work. The shoe work if

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>you work. If you don't work, it won't you have

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>to work. It enhances your work.

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 3>I love those. I wear four watches when I run,

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 3>and the reason it is not to stay out four

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 3>watches because I am a YouTuber, I review these watches,

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 3>so about to rotate my watches and get new ones

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.359
<v Speaker 3>that no one really talks about. So sometimes you don't

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 3>have to worry about buying a eight hundred dollars watch.

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 3>Maybe there's like a one hundred dollars watch after that's

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 3>doing their job. So I like to do reviews like

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 3>that let my audience know this can work too. So

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 3>I wear four watches when I run. I love my

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 3>running fits because I think that running as tough as

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 3>it is already. But imagine have you ever put on

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 3>that sick running off and you're like, oh, I feel good? Yeah,

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 3>So it is the accessories that makes it fun. So

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 3>I love to try to look as fly as possible,

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 3>maybe to be sometimes maybe someone look at you, this

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 3>is not it as long as you feel good. So

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 3>I love my running outface. I love my running shoes

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 3>and my gadgets.

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:03.720
<v Speaker 2>What's your running shoe?

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 3>I wear Hoka all day every day. I started wearing

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.320
<v Speaker 3>hook I told you guys about this when I started

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 3>wearing it. When I did my first I did the

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:12.919
<v Speaker 3>New York City Subway System Challenge, which is two hundred

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 3>and forty five miles. That's the length of the subway

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.760
<v Speaker 3>system New York City. So the goal was to start

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<v Speaker 3>in Labor Day and start Morial day and finishing Labor

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 3>day weekend. So it's two miles a day. So I

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:23.879
<v Speaker 3>did it in one week. So I was doing thirty

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<v Speaker 3>five miles a day. And when I started this, I

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:28.919
<v Speaker 3>reached out to run and I heard about these shoes

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 3>that's good for ultra. It was Hoka. I was the

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<v Speaker 3>Clifton sixth. They gave that to me. I put one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and five miles on it and I fell in

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<v Speaker 3>love with it. So I just started wearing Hoka and

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<v Speaker 3>next thing you know, I'm sponsored by them. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>my goal to shoes. If you want to shoes for comfort,

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<v Speaker 3>the habit. If you want to shoot for walking even

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 3>though it's running, shooes to have it. If you want

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<v Speaker 3>to shoot to just train the habbit, if you want

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 3>to shoot to go really really fast, the habit. And

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<v Speaker 3>there's a shoe that's about to come out that is

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<v Speaker 3>beyond super shoes. And you know you hear sports cars.

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 3>There's like sports cars supercars, and there's hyper cards. I

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 3>don't know if you heard of that. So the hyper

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:01.800
<v Speaker 3>cars are like like Ferrari, Bugatti, like Pegani Coeni Zags

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 3>and then there's no such thing. Have you ever heard

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<v Speaker 3>hyper shoes? So I just came up with this. So

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<v Speaker 3>this shoe that I ran with this morning is going

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:13.280
<v Speaker 3>to be in hyper shoes is beyond. It's in bargod

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 3>right now to us, so it will be available this year.

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<v Speaker 3>But this shoe is extremely aggressive, extremely responsive, and I

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 3>was screaming when I was running in it because how

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 3>efforts I was moving for the pace that I was

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<v Speaker 3>going at. But I love shoes like that because I

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 3>depend on those. Two helped me hit my goals. I

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:33.840
<v Speaker 3>gotta get fit, but they helped.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and I have to ask one last question because

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<v Speaker 2>I see that you're vegan, and diet is such a

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<v Speaker 2>big part of running, and it's so difficult to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out what to eat, what not to eat, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>blown away that you have been able to, yes, be

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<v Speaker 2>a vegan and run the miles you run.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been vegan. Actually next month it will be eight years.

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 3>I started before even the run Streak twenty sixteen. So

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 3>I went to school for public health and sociology. I

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 3>learned stuff and then things that were taught to me

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 3>that I learned after college. So I decided to take

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 3>my diet very seriously. I want cold turkey. I watched

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 3>that Folks of the Nights. That's all. It took twenty

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 3>minutes in I was dumbfounded, and then I decided to

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 3>clean up a little bit. And the one thing I

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 3>regret about being vegan is that I didn't do it

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 3>soon enough, because as soon as I went, it works

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 3>different for everybody. Mine was instant energy. I couldn't stop,

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 3>and some people it takes about two weeks for your

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 3>system to get used to it. So I think the

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:27.919
<v Speaker 3>reason I can go out there every single day because

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.399
<v Speaker 3>there's less inflammation in my body. We'll talking about less

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 3>animal protein and fat and things like that, so that

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:36.280
<v Speaker 3>causes inflammation. So my recovery is a little more efficient

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 3>because of that, because of the plant based diet. So

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 3>I think that's been a very crucial to my run streak.

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<v Speaker 3>But being saying that, I'm not a vegan that's always

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:50.240
<v Speaker 3>so strict. I eat my fatty food. I love my cheeseburgers,

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 3>I love my pizza. So I'm not gonna pretend here

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<v Speaker 3>like I missed your perfect because even two days ago,

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 3>I drove to Hoboken. I would have drove to New

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 3>York City to go get the cheeseburgers, which is drill

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 3>better burgers, the best burger you'll ever eat. You won't

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 3>even know it vegan. So I did that. I drove

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 3>forty minutes to come, eat two cheeseburgers and a milkshake,

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 3>to go back home forty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, it was still a vegan burger.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheating, you're staying.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not cheating. I'm just saying I eat always healthy,

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 3>because veganism is not always healthy too. It's about the ethics.

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 3>You can be healthy, for sure, but also I want

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 3>to also be transparent. There's on healthy vegan food. I

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 3>also have my share for healthy.

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:32.720
<v Speaker 1>And you're not a drinker.

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 3>I drink occasionally, I'm not. I can't. I can count

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 3>in my hand how many time I've drink in a year,

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 3>for sure. But if I do drink, I love Malibu baberries.

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:43.320
<v Speaker 3>That was introduced to you know, if you asked his

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 3>uncle that drink is really cared And then I got

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:49.760
<v Speaker 3>stuck in my margery. Is the way with salted rims recently.

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 3>They're delicious, aren't they those are delicious.

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Count on one hand how many times you yeah, in

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 1>the year we didn't get exactly.

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 3>Wedding, because that's the time where I'm like, okay, it's

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 3>a wedding. We have to cheers. You gotta have agreed.

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Agreed, yes, yes, well, cheers to you, Hella. This has

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 2>been so much fun. I wish we even had more time.

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I'm taking that sip.

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Round three.

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<v Speaker 1>It really hello. We will have you back for sure

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 1>because you got a lot of things and the events

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot coming up, and we just always love having you, man,

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:24.280
<v Speaker 1>We love talking to you always always.

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 3>You know what we should do. We should do a

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 3>run club, ay TJ Hella, good run club in New

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 3>York City.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we can talk the whole time.

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:33.879
<v Speaker 3>Five k easy, one and a half mile up? Want

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:35.920
<v Speaker 3>to have a mile back? And we call it a day.

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 3>We chat, we hang out, we eat and this is happening.

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<v Speaker 3>We can talk about Come check out this deal podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>If Andy, why didn't you think of that? Man? All right, well, Hella,

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>it's an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much. You all

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>will be hearing from from Hella again here on this podcast.

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:57.360
<v Speaker 3>This is incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Hella and everyone don't forget. You can follow us,

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<v Speaker 1>Until next time, We'll see you Amy A.

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<v Speaker 3>T J.

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<v Speaker 1>Hem