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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody, and it is officially underway. Dry January. Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 1: Amy's TJ here Robes is doing this for the first

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Speaker 1: time ever. It's a new year and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people do dry January. You're doing it for the first time.

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Speaker 2: You've inspired me. You do it. You've done it every

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Speaker 2: year for the past ten years, except for last year,

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Speaker 2: which is understandable.

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Speaker 1: Why what was different about last January?

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Speaker 2: It was a top January. So yes, but we're in

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Speaker 2: this together now, and I have never done it. I've

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Speaker 2: always done what I like to call a damp.

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Speaker 1: January, which is it makes sense though when you.

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Speaker 2: I reduce my drinking, but I wasn't willing to completely

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Speaker 2: cut it out. But this year, this month, I have agreed,

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Speaker 2: and I'm actually excited about it.

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Speaker 1: I have agreed. I have agreed that it's a negotiation.

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Speaker 2: I have agreed to have a dry January, and I'm

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Speaker 2: excited because I do like a challenge and this will

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Speaker 2: certainly be one for.

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Speaker 1: Me, and it's more so it has been for me.

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Speaker 1: Open now I feel great. It takes two or three

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Speaker 1: days and you just forget about drinking. You get into

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Speaker 1: a new habit and new routine. Of alcohol not being

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Speaker 1: there when you have lunch or whatever it may be.

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Speaker 1: But it's just it's an exercise in personal discipline. Is

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Speaker 1: why I like it more than anything but the health metadit.

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Speaker 1: I feel great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you told me in like three or four days,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna feel the best I've ever felt.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna feel great.

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait.

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Speaker 1: But then you're going to be at a restaurants he's

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Speaker 1: abody to order in April sprits and you say.

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Speaker 2: Yo, TJ, this is killing.

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Speaker 1: But that is a lot of folks out there, a

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Speaker 1: lot of you that are listening. You have a new

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Speaker 1: Year's resolution, and most people, the overwhelming majority, do, have

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Speaker 1: something related to health fitness in some way. Google puts

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Speaker 1: out their resolutions related searches. Their top searches and working out,

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Speaker 1: eating healthy were the top two.

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Speaker 2: So can you tell the fine folks what number three

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Speaker 2: was because you shared that with me this morning and

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Speaker 2: it was disturbing.

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Speaker 1: Brushing teeth, you know, if it's brushing.

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Speaker 2: Teeth more often or three times a day, but this

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe everybody has something different that they filled in

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Speaker 1: the blank with brushing teeth more often brushing teeth every

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Speaker 1: other day. I don't know what they put in there,

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Speaker 2: People deeply concerning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but working out, eating healthy. Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, I love you had some

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Speaker 2: really fun stats for me this morning. You also told

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Speaker 2: me so. Strava is this app that we use a

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Speaker 2: other people, they can follow you, so you can get

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Speaker 1: So well, it's funny that they are able to pinpoint.

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Speaker 1: And I know this is just the first week of January,

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Speaker 1: so I don't want to be a downer on some

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Speaker 1: of you all's health goals and resolutions that you've made,

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Speaker 1: but many of you listening to me are going to

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Speaker 1: fail miserably here in just a couple of weeks, just

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Speaker 1: three weeks. Yeah, they have proof, they have the evidence

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Speaker 1: of this. They can tell in people's trends they go

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Speaker 2: There's an actual date, right January nineteenth.

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Speaker 1: This was one that was given years past. I can't

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Speaker 1: remember which year, but yes, jov they put out this

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Speaker 2: People just said, I'm done.

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Speaker 1: It's a wrap.

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Speaker 2: They just say, I hate running.

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Speaker 1: But it's not just running, it's gym memberships. This is

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Speaker 2: You got Yes, they're done. You're done. So everyone, I think,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean, can I speak on that?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Because there was no you may remember it. There was

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Speaker 1: something called fall off the wagon day. Oh okay, that's

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Speaker 1: give credit to what organization put it together. But they

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Speaker 1: Day is when they noticed that the trends in fast

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think we could all use a

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Speaker 2: little inspiration. And there is someone here in studio with

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Speaker 2: us who is probably the most disciplined person I have

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Speaker 2: to bring onto the podcast today. He's here in studio

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Speaker 2: with us because we could all use a little inspiration

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Speaker 2: as we start our health and fitness goals. His name

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Speaker 2: is Helicity Bay, and this is well, he's got a

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Speaker 2: lot of really amazing fun facts that I think are

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Speaker 2: going to blow your mind. First of all, he was

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Speaker 2: the first black man to run across America from New

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Speaker 2: York to Los Angeles. Took him eighty four days average

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Speaker 2: thirty six miles a day. You're going to get to

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Speaker 2: ask him in just a moment. He is a former

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Speaker 2: professional soccer player. He was born in Molly. He also,

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Speaker 2: and this is wow, he is what you call a

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Speaker 2: run streaker. It doesn't mean he runs without clothing, which

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Speaker 2: is where my mind went first. I'm sorry, am I

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Speaker 2: the only one?

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Speaker 1: You're the only ones? You actually are the only one.

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Speaker 2: He's a run streaker, meaning he has run every single day,

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Speaker 2: regardless of the weather, regardless of what he did the

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Speaker 2: night before, since twenty seventeen, so that's over six years.

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Speaker 2: His rules are that he imposed upon himself that he

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Speaker 2: has to run outdoors woo, and he has to run

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Speaker 2: runs on average seven miles a day. So, without further ado,

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Speaker 2: please welcome Hella into the iHeart Studios with us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I feel really cool to be sitting with you guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh please.

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Speaker 3: The last time we were together was really fun. Love

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Speaker 3: your energy. So it's a privilege to be here and

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Speaker 1: But it is so and I wish more people could

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Speaker 1: That dude just makes you feel good. You want to

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Speaker 1: be around, you said, have a smile and a joy.

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Speaker 3: I really do. Since that interview, I was just like, Wow,

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Speaker 3: these are the people I want to be around. No

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Speaker 3: matter what happened, you leave, your chicks are heading. I

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Speaker 3: remember saying, all laughter and fun, that's what I like,

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Speaker 3: That's what life has to be about.

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Speaker 2: And you have a real joy of running. But it

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Speaker 2: didn't always start out that way. So can we ask you?

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Speaker 2: I said you were a run streaker. I explained what

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Speaker 2: that meant. How many days are you on right now?

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Speaker 3: So after I ran this morning, so it's day twenty

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Speaker 1: Every single day, no matter what. What's the biggest circumstances

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Speaker 1: challenge you had, like like a logistic change, the logistical

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Speaker 3: So going to Australia in twenty nineteen, I had gorpro

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Speaker 3: who had invited me. So I called him really sad,

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Speaker 3: I said, I can't do this because I'm going to

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Speaker 3: I was really sad because I wanted to go to Australia.

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Speaker 3: It was twenty six hours. So they said, how can

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Speaker 3: so I took four flights so I can get to Australia,

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Speaker 3: I broke it out. I did a whole full YouTube

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Speaker 2: So you don't like direct flights, I don't like flights.

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Speaker 1: You said those were some of your challenges what is

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Speaker 1: kind of the you remember a wacky or a weird

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Speaker 3: Well running across America. And also with the first Black Man,

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Speaker 3: Unofficial with that, but running through Arizona was really sketchy

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Speaker 3: and really scary. Yeah, I was scared for my life

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Speaker 3: and many times I went through some times where like

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Speaker 3: just like, you got to pick it up so you

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Speaker 3: getting chased by dogs and things like that. But there

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Speaker 3: there's been some sketchy areas during the chance what.

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Speaker 1: He described, I've driven through some places in the South.

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Speaker 2: Running is a little bit different though, right you're a

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Speaker 2: was the day that you said? Today's day one, and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do this.

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Speaker 3: So day one I said May fifteen, twenty seventeen, but

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Speaker 3: it happened three days before. I just don't have proof

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Speaker 3: of it. So May fifteenth, I started using my watch.

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Speaker 3: There's like run every single day from May fifteenth of

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Speaker 3: making excuses. I grew up playing soccer. I went to

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Speaker 1: You talk to him again? The Bank of America guy

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Speaker 1: But again, this is a guy who this wasn't a

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Speaker 3: And I know they can find it because they told

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Speaker 3: get humbled. Oh I didn't know that's going to happen.

437
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 3: Let's stop, make sing a little funny. Why does a

438
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,520
Speaker 3: little stomach.

439
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,200
Speaker 2: TJ actually had to stop. We were on such good

440
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 2: pace this past marathon.

441
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,120
Speaker 1: We were crushing it, rushing it.

442
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,119
Speaker 2: Yet not by your standards, but by our standards and

443
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,399
Speaker 2: my stomach. At mile twenty two twenty three, I I

444
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 2: actually threw up on myself and then I had to

445
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 2: go off to the side and finish.

446
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,880
Speaker 1: I felt awful, and we with the two of us

447
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,879
Speaker 1: standing there, Hey, everybody, it happened. Get a look.

448
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 2: My parents were tracking me and they were like, what happened?

449
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 2: Five minutes and I was like, yeah, I might have

450
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 2: been vomiting.

451
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,399
Speaker 3: We did finish, Yes, that's all that matters at the

452
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 3: end of the day.

453
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 2: And it was still my best time ever. But it

454
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,639
Speaker 2: could have been so much better.

455
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 3: Yes, imagine, isn't that amazing to know if that didn't happen?

456
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 3: So next time, we hope that doesn't happen.

457
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 1: And hell please, this was not a quick little she

458
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,719
Speaker 1: We were on the side five plus minutes, maybe even ceased.

459
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it was seizing and I had to let

460
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Speaker 2: it do it, you know.

461
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 3: But it's not even just about the time you wasted.

462
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 3: Is the rhythm that you just got, so you going

463
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 3: back to picking up that rhythm, it's much tougher, So

464
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 3: huge quotas to you because going back in there to

465
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 3: that flow, because as soon as you stop, especially of course,

466
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 3: like your leg starts to tense up, your muscles starts

467
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 3: to and then it hunts you. So you guys are

468
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 3: trooper to stop that long and resumed the run. Well

469
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 3: that's why I don't even want to stop.

470
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Speaker 2: I know, I was grateful. I was grateful to him.

471
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,959
Speaker 2: I was like, please keep going. He's like, obviously I'm not.

472
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 2: But I would have been totally understanding if he had,

473
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: because as a runner, you know what it means to

474
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 2: have to stop your rhythm. In terms of understanding runners,

475
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure you get this A lot. People just ask

476
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 2: why why? Because it's hard, it's not easy, and all

477
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 2: of us have runs where we want to stop and

478
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 2: we don't want to keep going, and a lot of

479
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 2: ones where we don't want to start. Yes, why do

480
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 2: you run? What's the joy?

481
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 3: It's changed my life in so many ways, not even

482
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 3: like the extras I'm talking about how I feel good mentally.

483
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 3: I just find myself smiling because I feel like I

484
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 3: conquered something that day. Even today was freezing when I

485
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 3: started with twenty six degrees, but when I was out there,

486
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: I felt like I was a trooper. You feel like

487
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 3: a warrior, Like I can go out there and.

488
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: Battle this cold that I.

489
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 3: Get to just endure for an hour, which is nothing

490
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 3: out of my whole day, and then when I'm done,

491
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 3: I just feel accomplished. I feel in vincent. I feel

492
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 3: like nothing can stop me. So that feeling alone was

493
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 3: everything to me, and it makes me when I get

494
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 3: out there every day to keep proving to myself. But

495
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 3: what really helps me nowadays is running is a privilege

496
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 3: that everyone has. There's people out there who can't watch run.

497
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 3: I see it all the time. The more you run outside,

498
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: you see people who are emputee by accident, by war,

499
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 3: by birth. So it's almost like insult to me that

500
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 3: I'm not using my privilege. They would do anything to

501
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 3: have the ability that I have. So in my back,

502
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 3: in my mind, I'm doing it for them every day

503
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 3: because that would love to have what I have.

504
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: You see the back of your mind. And I wanted

505
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: to get to the mental part of all of this.

506
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: The physical to hear you run an ultra marathon, you

507
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: run one hundred mile. That's just insane to most people,

508
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: right physically that you can do that, But the part

509
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: about the mental still right, sometimes you don't want to

510
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: even go. But then there are some times where you're

511
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: out there you don't even want to stop. How does

512
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 1: how do you have you tricked your brain? Even as

513
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 1: much running as you do, How much tricking of your

514
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: brain are you still having to do?

515
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 3: You have to be crazy enough to tell yourself that

516
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 3: you can do it. You got to literally tame yourself,

517
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 3: be a child, imagine, oh I can do this. But

518
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: also you got to be smart enough to do the

519
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 3: training while tricking yourself in that way. But I always

520
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 3: tell people, we go out there to do these races

521
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 3: and we get mad and we complain, why who's you up?

522
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: You did you do so? I said, I sign up

523
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 3: for this. No one made me do this, so I

524
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: better shut up and just keep going. If I want

525
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 3: to stop, hang my bib up, and that's okay, walk

526
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 3: off the course. No one's gonna come and say, hey,

527
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 3: you sink, but you tried. At the end of the day,

528
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 3: you try. So I have it in the back on

529
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: my I sign up for this, and I have this

530
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 3: mindset no matter the circumstances. If I have to crawl,

531
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: I'll crawl. I have thirty hours to finish one hundred miles,

532
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 3: which is good to know, but whatever it takes, I'll

533
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 3: get it done. And then you have to also know

534
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 3: with these races, as the high gets to the highest point,

535
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 3: don't get too excited because it's gonna dip right back down.

536
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,479
Speaker 3: But low as low as you are, just know that

537
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 3: hold on a little longer you're gonna get a new

538
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: high again. So you just up and down. So whenever

539
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: you're up, no you're gonna go down whenever you're downe No,

540
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: you're not gonna stay there. So you just have to

541
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 3: play that game. And sometime when you're down, you think

542
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 3: it's coming soon. It comes forever, but there's a hope

543
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 3: that it's going to come. So that's gonna get you. Oh,

544
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 3: I just cover another thirty miles waiting for this. I

545
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 3: had to come again. Now I see it. But you

546
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: just cover thirty miles. But you were suffering, but you

547
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 3: were expecting it to come, which helps mentally.

548
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 2: And I know that you said among your rules they

549
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 2: have to be outside. The run also has to be

550
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: at least two miles. What's a two mile day for you?

551
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: Are you?

552
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: Did you have too much fun the night before? Did

553
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: you not sleep that well for you to say I'm

554
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: only going to do two miles today.

555
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: So there's two example. One just happened recently. So when

556
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 3: I was leaving Mali to come to the US. It's

557
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: really tricky with the flights. So I got up five

558
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: in the morning and there's a big field behind my house.

559
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: So I did laps for two miles and I just

560
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 3: did circles. I just want to make sure I get

561
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 3: my run Downe so five in the morning and Maley

562
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 3: was midnight here, so it's already the next day. So

563
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: I wanted to be saved before I get on a flight.

564
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: I get trapped in the tarmac for twelve hours. Next

565
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: thing you know, I'm landing, it's already midnight. I don't

566
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: want to compromise my run street, so I did that.

567
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: And though crazy thing is in Mali you have to

568
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: be at the airport for three hours before the flight.

569
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 3: It's not like here you can show up you have

570
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 3: like tsa pre check. No, you got to shove early

571
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: like anybody else. So the earliest I could do was

572
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: five am there, so it's at least midnight. If I

573
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 3: want any earlier than that, it would be still the

574
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 3: same day before. So when I did that, when I

575
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: got to the US at seven thirty pm, I got

576
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: home ate something and I got out there again at

577
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: ten pm and did an extra two miles, so it

578
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 3: was four total. So that got me to add a

579
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 3: little more to it. And another example was when I

580
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: had a wisdom teeth issue. So I had a wisdom

581
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 3: tooth that was coming out and there was a molar

582
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: going up that was the wisdom tooth was blocking the molars.

583
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: The molars coming down on my jaw in the bone,

584
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: so it's making the bone very thick and thin and fragile.

585
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: I could crack. So I got the wisdom, removed the

586
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 3: molar shape, and I had to do an endplant so

587
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: there's no gap back there. So when I did that

588
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: surgery before going in, I got up to run six

589
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: in the morning. Surgery was at eight, and I told

590
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: my dots. I told the author's surgeon, Hey, if I

591
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: can't run, I'm not doing this. He's like, well, you're

592
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 3: not going to have a teeth and you're going to

593
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 3: actually lose sensitivity in your nerves and you can't talk anymore,

594
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: so you decide. So I said, my paints sound was

595
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: pretty high, so he only prescribed me high advil. And

596
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 3: so the next day I waited till eight at night

597
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 3: and I went out to run two miles. The reason

598
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: I kept it at two miles because he did say

599
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 3: something that blood pressure. So the more I was out there,

600
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: my mouth was getting full of blood. So it wasn't

601
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: about I couldn't handle more than two miles, but it

602
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: was safer for me to stop the bleeding, so I

603
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 3: just tapped.

604
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: Ay, wow, nothing is going to stop this streak.

605
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 3: That's my goal. Physical within my control, that's it.

606
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: And you haven't had an injury issue that stopped you

607
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: from the streak.

608
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: I've had injuries, but it didn't stop me, and it

609
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 3: was so bad. I've had pustration injury where lasted sixty

610
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: plus days where I get home I'm in so much

611
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: pain I go hide in the back of the room

612
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: stopping myself from crying and pain. And I've had that.

613
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: So the second time it happened, I cut my mileage

614
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: from sixty miles a week to twenty one, which is

615
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 3: three a days. That wasn't working. I cut it to

616
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: two a days to fourteen miles away until I got

617
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: rid of this injury. But there's no really way for

618
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 3: me to say, hey, I'm going to because I look

619
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 3: at running as life. I'm not going to tap out

620
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: and throw my talent in the back and say that's it.

621
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna do my best with with it whatever

622
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: circumstances I'm dealing with. So that's the goal.

623
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've had people come up to you and

624
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: just say you're an inspiration, but I can't run even

625
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: though they're not injured and they actually, we know physical,

626
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: we can run. What would you say to somebody who

627
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: wants to start a regimen nothing like yours, but maybe

628
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: just to even run a mile a day or two

629
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: miles every other day. How do you motivate someone to say,

630
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: this is actually something that can be beautiful and joyful

631
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: and beneficial in so many ways.

632
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: Yes, So first, being peckable with your word. Whatever you

633
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: say is what you're gonna do. So be nice to yourself.

634
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: Say it may be hard, but I can try. You

635
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 3: don't have to say I can't. I can try. And

636
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: I said, do something attainable. You don't have to go

637
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: out there and do ten miles. I know if I

638
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: were to start five miles a day, I could have

639
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: done that. I would have been done within a week probably.

640
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: I said ten minutes. It was time. It was in distance,

641
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 3: so I was covering at just over a mile. So

642
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: do something attainable and do a pressure free. The pressure

643
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: free was the biggest one for me because no coach

644
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: was yelling at me. It wasn't anyone pointing fingers, Hey

645
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 3: you're too slow. How come you're in the back of

646
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: the pack, how come you're not up front? It was

647
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: Milen will. So if you do it with pressure free,

648
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 3: that's amazing, which meaning if you can only jog for

649
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 3: thirty seconds at a time and you gotta walk for

650
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 3: two minutes, I count that as a run, because not everybody.

651
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: I can't tell somebody because you didn't do a mile,

652
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: it doesn't count. If your capability is thirty seconds at

653
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Speaker 3: a time and then you have to walk and repeat,

654
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Speaker 3: that that counts. So this is why I love run shrinking.

655
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Speaker 3: But there's a run strict association that I disagree with.

656
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 3: I don't like that page. I hope it didn't exist.

657
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 3: They said, if you don't run a mile a day,

658
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Speaker 3: it doesn't count. And I said, who am I to

659
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Speaker 3: tell somebody who is physically not able to do a

660
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Speaker 3: mile without if they can only do five minutes, If

661
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Speaker 3: that's not covering a mile, you're now going to tell

662
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Speaker 3: me that. I'm going to go tell them, Hey, that

663
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Speaker 3: doesn't count. Their capability is five minutes. So whatever pressure

664
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Speaker 3: free is the best, and you do how you want it,

665
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: You say your own rules, and when you do that,

666
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 3: you find yourself going longer, further, being better because you're

667
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: getting better and you're feeling comfortable and you don't have

668
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Speaker 3: to worry about the outside notes, which is really hard

669
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Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are here with Hella quick break, but

671
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Speaker 1: when we come back, we're going to ask him as

672
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Speaker 1: we wrap up, about two things when it comes to running,

673
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Speaker 1: if you're just getting started, that are going to be

674
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Speaker 1: key to your success. We continue in just.

675
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Speaker 2: A moment, Amy and TJ back here with our good

676
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Speaker 2: friend and constant inspiration for at least my running is Hella,

677
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: and he is here to talk a little bit about

678
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Speaker 2: how to motivate all of us to keep up maybe

679
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: our own run streaks, maybe not quite the way you

680
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Speaker 2: do it, but one of your tips. And I love

681
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: this because TJ and I live this. Is it better

682
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Speaker 2: when you have someone running with you.

683
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'd rather wrong with people than by myself. It

684
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Speaker 3: just time. It might not be the fastest pace, but

685
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: it feels like it was the fastest time. You could

686
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Speaker 3: be running a ten minute mile pace for ten miles

687
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, we finished ten miles already. Because there's

688
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: so many conversations going on, there's so many things that

689
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: you get to share with each other. It makes the

690
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: time just goes so much quicker, and you don't think

691
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Speaker 3: about the pain of running, because there's you're with each other.

692
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Speaker 2: There's that African proverb, right, if.

693
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Speaker 3: You want to go fast, you go along. If you

694
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Speaker 3: want to go far, you go together.

695
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Speaker 2: I love it.

696
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Speaker 1: She has that acts all the time.

697
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Speaker 3: I love that. I live by that.

698
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Speaker 1: You talk also ahead.

699
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Speaker 2: I'll slow you down.

700
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Speaker 3: So oh no, no, no, you're the one that.

701
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Speaker 1: Got me out there in the first place.

702
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: So it never has their own little things that they

703
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Speaker 3: bring to the table.

704
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Speaker 1: And I would much prefer always to run with somebody

705
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Speaker 1: me too, always. And we were talking about Strava their stats,

706
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Speaker 1: but one of them they put out is that their

707
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Speaker 1: percentage of like ten and twenty percent people run, they

708
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Speaker 1: go faster, and they go farther if they're with a group. Yes,

709
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Speaker 1: they have statistics that you're.

710
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Speaker 3: Much And I run with people who are faster than

711
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Speaker 3: me and they pull me. I'm like, well, there's no

712
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Speaker 3: out have been able to do that by myself because

713
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Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't have that capability in my

714
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Speaker 3: mind to pull myself because sometimes you hold yourself back

715
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Speaker 3: a little bit. So it helps them so many ways,

716
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: it really does.

717
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Speaker 2: DJ's just asking me if he can now take the lead,

718
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: and I follow him, so that he can pull me.

719
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Speaker 1: But it is we run different. He's different, naturally. I

720
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: always run behind her and we don't talk during the runs.

721
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: You do like talking to people, okay.

722
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah we did on vacation. Yeah, and it did go

723
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Speaker 2: by very.

724
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Speaker 1: Quickly always, but you don't like to talk during the runs.

725
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Speaker 3: You know what it is, slow down, slow enough that

726
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: you can have a conversation like this conversational pace, because

727
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: that's also building a retal big strengths schedule on muscular strengths.

728
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Speaker 3: You're not missing anything out of that. There's a saying

729
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: run slowly, run faster. So if you feel like you

730
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Speaker 3: don't want to talk because you want to focus on

731
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: your breath, go much slower, then breath will be an

732
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Speaker 3: issue and you will conversate and you're actually building a

733
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Speaker 3: different type of fitness.

734
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Speaker 1: See. That's when I first I think I told you

735
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Speaker 1: it was Matt, Matt James. I went on a run

736
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Speaker 1: with him, a friend of ours, and he wanted to

737
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Speaker 1: talk and we ran five miles like I can't talk

738
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Speaker 1: for five that five miles went through, we were in

739
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Speaker 1: natural conversation. That's when I said, oh, maybe I'm in

740
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Speaker 1: pretty good shape.

741
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Speaker 3: Here, yes, yes, And I feel like you get so

742
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: much different, like adrenaline through your body. We're like a

743
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: pace like that. By yourself, you might be breathing a

744
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: little heavier, but that also gets calmed down because your

745
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: body is at a different state with people.

746
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Speaker 1: The other thing they say is key to success is

747
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: setting a goal. Not just a goal of I'm going

748
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Speaker 1: to run a mile to their happ but some people

749
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Speaker 1: if you set a goal of I'm going to do

750
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Speaker 1: the five k that's in three months, yes, you have

751
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Speaker 1: a much greater chance of success.

752
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 3: I agree. My streak started with ten minutes of there

753
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: for two weeks. It was a two weeks goal turned

754
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: into six plus years, so I had to start somewhere.

755
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: I didn't say I'm going to run every day for

756
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: a year. After the two weeks ago, I'm like, I

757
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 3: don't think I'm going to stop for at least three

758
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: hundred and six five days. But I didn't jump to

759
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: the three hundred and six five days at first. It

760
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: has to be something small goal that leads up to

761
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: the bigger picture.

762
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: All right, we heard your Boston Marathon goal, but do

763
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: you have any other goals for this year?

764
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I want to actually getting to rather down

765
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: for this spring because I'll be honest, it's flatter. It's

766
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: flat as pancake. So I want flat and fast. So

767
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: that's the redemption from Boston. Yeah, redemption year. So also

768
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: I want to do a run in Semany, France, which

769
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: is the UTM. Have you guys ever been there?

770
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: I have been to show it is one of the

771
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: most beautiful towns in the world.

772
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: I want two years back to back and it's amazing.

773
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: During a UTMB, which is like the biggest ultra marathon.

774
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: Weekend, are you running? So I climbed. I did some

775
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: technical climbing on the MIDI is what they call it.

776
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: You're not running up there, are you?

777
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: You go through all the mountains I was talking about Switzerland,

778
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: France and Italy and back into.

779
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: Twelve thousand feet thirteen thousand feet.

780
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah there, You're high up there and it's insane. It's

781
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: a tough race. So I'm not going to do the

782
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: one hundred and six mile race there. It will be

783
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: like the fifty plus Klimeter So over thirty miles that's the.

784
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: REA and then Gez come on.

785
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: Massive elevation, elevation, that's what I'm considering that the elevation

786
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: is anything over nine thousand, Yes, you have less oxy.

787
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 3: I don't want to be a fool and then say

788
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: I'm going a little shorter but higher elevation. But I

789
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: will do one hundred mile race in October this year too,

790
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: so it'll be two ultra marathon, one longer than the

791
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: other in a marathon in the spring. So that's my

792
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: ultimate goal, and I hope I can get out there

793
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: for the Olympics and pairs just to be there.

794
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: I just love any.

795
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: Running events, so maybe I'll do their marathon. Because they're

796
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 3: actually allowing regular people run marathons Olympics this time, so

797
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: you can. Actually there's an app as well, where like

798
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: you can do challenges. They'll say you have to run

799
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: five k by a PM, so they'll select you and

800
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 3: give you random bibs. So there's an app that I

801
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: have signed up for. There's challenges that if you can complete,

802
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: so they're gonna get I think it's gonna be like

803
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 3: twenty thousand plus runners, so they at least are gonna

804
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: take off like a regular marathon like the Olympians, and

805
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: then US regular average runners are gonna go after so

806
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: people can run the Olympics this year. That's amazing so

807
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: I'm trying to, like, if I can get in, I

808
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 3: don't care about time at that point, I'm just gonna

809
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: say I ran at the Olympics. We're not gonna start

810
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 3: an Olympian, but I run at the Olympics. There's connections.

811
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: I'm trying to I'm exploring every option.

812
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: Way. You just massively peaked our interest.

813
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that would be epic, and you can

814
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: go yeah, and then you go do something like that.

815
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 3: You can just be part of the world coming together

816
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: every foty year. That's what's best about the Olympics. So

817
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: and running is one of the biggest things that bring

818
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: us together. So I hope I can get into that

819
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: as well. That'll be like a side thing. Just do

820
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: it for fun, just do it for fun and spectate.

821
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: I mean, and I love what you said about running

822
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: bringing us together. I feel like that at every race.

823
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: I feel like that. Even when I'm running down the

824
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: West Side Highway, you see other runners. There's just this

825
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: there's a community, there's a camaraderie and you everyone's looking

826
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: at each other knowing that you're probably suffering slightly, yes,

827
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: but you're doing it anyway exactly. And there's some sort

828
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: of I don't know, fun camaraderie to that commitment.

829
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: Yes, and helping each other too is big, like pulling somebody.

830
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: One of my best experiences on last year was actually

831
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: not even my one hundred mile race or any of that.

832
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: It was I helped a blind runner and finish the

833
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 3: New York City Marathon. It was the most fulfilling thing

834
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: I've ever experienced throughout this run streak. So it wasn't

835
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: about me and my time, but the smile of his

836
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: face that we hit his goal and the excitement that

837
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: he had. Rolando is his name, was just like, Wow,

838
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: this is bigger than me, and it reinforced that. So

839
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: helping each other running does that. And we help each

840
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: other in ways that we don't even know even, like

841
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: you said, you guys running together, you're helping each other

842
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: without even thinking about it. I think that's important too.

843
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the past couple of years, I mean, on

844
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: one hand, we could probably count how many runs we

845
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: didn't do together.

846
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 3: See that's amazing.

847
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you you are into helping others.

848
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 3: I know that you give back.

849
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: This isn't just about your personal goals or what you

850
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: can accomplish. You want to give back and I know

851
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: you found it in organization Sols for Souls. Tell us

852
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: a little bit about it because it really is inspirational.

853
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: Yes. So, Social SOL is a nonprofit that take on

854
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 3: one to shoes, newer youth and clothing and turn into opportunity.

855
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: And their biggest goal is to you know, you feed

856
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 3: up man. They live for a day, you teach them

857
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: how to fish, they can live for it longer. So

858
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: that's the goal. They've helped so many people by giving

859
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 3: us shoes and new shoes that can turn into business

860
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: and a lot of first world country and thorough all country,

861
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 3: so it's not just like thorough countries. Even in the US,

862
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 3: there's people here that don't have a pair of shoes.

863
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: And the reason this worked out perfectly, I grew up

864
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 3: in West Africa. A pair of shoes doesn't come often.

865
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 3: So we're talking about you have one pair of shoes,

866
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: you have to use it for five years, and we

867
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: take care of it so much. I wouldn't wear my

868
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Speaker 3: new shoes until if it's occasion, if it's like holidays.

869
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: Otherwise it's not every day you're walking on barefoot or

870
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: you have sandals on, and sometimes you outgrow their shoes

871
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 3: It's not that you didn't take care of it, you

872
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: just outgrew it and you don't know where your next

873
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 3: pair is going to come from. So for running too,

874
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: all you need is a pair of shoes. So it

875
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: really works really well for me to say, you know what,

876
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: this nonprofit is perfect to run across the country for.

877
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Speaker 1: Hello. The last thing I want to get you out

878
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: of here on is a lot of people might be

879
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: curious a guy who runs as much as you do,

880
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: what your gear is. Do you have a favorite type

881
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: of your shoes? Agree, that's okay, But your shoe, your watch,

882
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: the app you use, what is your go to? I

883
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: just want to make this clear. To run, you don't

884
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: need any of the stuff that I have. All you

885
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: need is your shoes and have your body parts covered.

886
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: You don't even need a watch. You can just go

887
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: by field. But I love running shoes. I live by it.

888
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: I dissected, I review them. I love super shoes, and

889
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: I do think that they work. The shoe work if

890
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: you work. If you don't work, it won't you have

891
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: to work. It enhances your work.

892
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: I love those. I wear four watches when I run,

893
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: and the reason it is not to stay out four

894
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: watches because I am a YouTuber, I review these watches,

895
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: so about to rotate my watches and get new ones

896
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 3: that no one really talks about. So sometimes you don't

897
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 3: have to worry about buying a eight hundred dollars watch.

898
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 3: Maybe there's like a one hundred dollars watch after that's

899
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: doing their job. So I like to do reviews like

900
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: that let my audience know this can work too. So

901
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: I wear four watches when I run. I love my

902
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 3: running fits because I think that running as tough as

903
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: it is already. But imagine have you ever put on

904
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: that sick running off and you're like, oh, I feel good? Yeah,

905
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: So it is the accessories that makes it fun. So

906
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: I love to try to look as fly as possible,

907
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: maybe to be sometimes maybe someone look at you, this

908
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: is not it as long as you feel good. So

909
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: I love my running outface. I love my running shoes

910
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: and my gadgets.

911
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 2: What's your running shoe?

912
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 3: I wear Hoka all day every day. I started wearing

913
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 3: hook I told you guys about this when I started

914
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: wearing it. When I did my first I did the

915
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 3: New York City Subway System Challenge, which is two hundred

916
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: and forty five miles. That's the length of the subway

917
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 3: system New York City. So the goal was to start

918
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: in Labor Day and start Morial day and finishing Labor

919
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: day weekend. So it's two miles a day. So I

920
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 3: did it in one week. So I was doing thirty

921
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: five miles a day. And when I started this, I

922
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 3: reached out to run and I heard about these shoes

923
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 3: that's good for ultra. It was Hoka. I was the

924
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: Clifton sixth. They gave that to me. I put one

925
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: hundred and five miles on it and I fell in

926
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: love with it. So I just started wearing Hoka and

927
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: next thing you know, I'm sponsored by them. But it's

928
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 3: my goal to shoes. If you want to shoes for comfort,

929
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: the habit. If you want to shoot for walking even

930
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: though it's running, shooes to have it. If you want

931
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: to shoot to just train the habbit, if you want

932
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: to shoot to go really really fast, the habit. And

933
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: there's a shoe that's about to come out that is

934
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: beyond super shoes. And you know you hear sports cars.

935
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: There's like sports cars supercars, and there's hyper cards. I

936
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: don't know if you heard of that. So the hyper

937
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: cars are like like Ferrari, Bugatti, like Pegani Coeni Zags

938
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: and then there's no such thing. Have you ever heard

939
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 3: hyper shoes? So I just came up with this. So

940
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: this shoe that I ran with this morning is going

941
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 3: to be in hyper shoes is beyond. It's in bargod

942
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 3: right now to us, so it will be available this year.

943
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: But this shoe is extremely aggressive, extremely responsive, and I

944
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: was screaming when I was running in it because how

945
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: efforts I was moving for the pace that I was

946
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: going at. But I love shoes like that because I

947
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: depend on those. Two helped me hit my goals. I

948
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 3: gotta get fit, but they helped.

949
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 2: Oh and I have to ask one last question because

950
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: I see that you're vegan, and diet is such a

951
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 2: big part of running, and it's so difficult to figure

952
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: out what to eat, what not to eat, and I'm

953
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: blown away that you have been able to, yes, be

954
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: a vegan and run the miles you run.

955
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 3: I've been vegan. Actually next month it will be eight years.

956
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: I started before even the run Streak twenty sixteen. So

957
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: I went to school for public health and sociology. I

958
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: learned stuff and then things that were taught to me

959
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: that I learned after college. So I decided to take

960
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: my diet very seriously. I want cold turkey. I watched

961
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: that Folks of the Nights. That's all. It took twenty

962
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: minutes in I was dumbfounded, and then I decided to

963
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: clean up a little bit. And the one thing I

964
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: regret about being vegan is that I didn't do it

965
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: soon enough, because as soon as I went, it works

966
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: different for everybody. Mine was instant energy. I couldn't stop,

967
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: and some people it takes about two weeks for your

968
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: system to get used to it. So I think the

969
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 3: reason I can go out there every single day because

970
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 3: there's less inflammation in my body. We'll talking about less

971
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: animal protein and fat and things like that, so that

972
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 3: causes inflammation. So my recovery is a little more efficient

973
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: because of that, because of the plant based diet. So

974
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: I think that's been a very crucial to my run streak.

975
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: But being saying that, I'm not a vegan that's always

976
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 3: so strict. I eat my fatty food. I love my cheeseburgers,

977
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: I love my pizza. So I'm not gonna pretend here

978
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: like I missed your perfect because even two days ago,

979
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: I drove to Hoboken. I would have drove to New

980
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: York City to go get the cheeseburgers, which is drill

981
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: better burgers, the best burger you'll ever eat. You won't

982
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: even know it vegan. So I did that. I drove

983
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: forty minutes to come, eat two cheeseburgers and a milkshake,

984
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: to go back home forty minutes.

985
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: Wait, it was still a vegan burger.

986
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: Cheating, you're staying.

987
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not cheating. I'm just saying I eat always healthy,

988
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: because veganism is not always healthy too. It's about the ethics.

989
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: You can be healthy, for sure, but also I want

990
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 3: to also be transparent. There's on healthy vegan food. I

991
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: also have my share for healthy.

992
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: And you're not a drinker.

993
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 3: I drink occasionally, I'm not. I can't. I can count

994
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: in my hand how many time I've drink in a year,

995
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: for sure. But if I do drink, I love Malibu baberries.

996
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 3: That was introduced to you know, if you asked his

997
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: uncle that drink is really cared And then I got

998
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 3: stuck in my margery. Is the way with salted rims recently.

999
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: They're delicious, aren't they those are delicious.

1000
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: Count on one hand how many times you yeah, in

1001
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: the year we didn't get exactly.

1002
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: Wedding, because that's the time where I'm like, okay, it's

1003
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Speaker 3: a wedding. We have to cheers. You gotta have agreed.

1004
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: Agreed, yes, yes, well, cheers to you, Hella. This has

1005
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: been so much fun. I wish we even had more time.

1006
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm taking that sip.

1007
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: Round three.

1008
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: It really hello. We will have you back for sure

1009
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: because you got a lot of things and the events

1010
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: and whatnot coming up, and we just always love having you, man,

1011
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: We love talking to you always always.

1012
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: You know what we should do. We should do a

1013
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: run club, ay TJ Hella, good run club in New

1014
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: York City.

1015
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 2: All right, we can talk the whole time.

1016
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 3: Five k easy, one and a half mile up? Want

1017
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: to have a mile back? And we call it a day.

1018
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: We chat, we hang out, we eat and this is happening.

1019
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 3: We can talk about Come check out this deal podcast.

1020
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: If Andy, why didn't you think of that? Man? All right, well, Hella,

1021
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: it's an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much. You all

1022
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: will be hearing from from Hella again here on this podcast.

1023
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 3: This is incredible.

1024
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

1025
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: Thank you, Hella and everyone don't forget. You can follow us,

1026
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: follow our podcast at Amy and t J Podcast.

1027
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Speaker 1: Until next time, We'll see you Amy A.

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Speaker 3: T J.

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