WEBVTT - A Convo With Mother Knows Death! 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:03.519 Get your head us together and we're going to start 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:04.000 to party. 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:04.480 Start. 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:15.400 I'm ready to party the Elvis Duran after Party. 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:19.600 Oh bank God, Nicole and Maria they finally made it. 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:19.960 Yay. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:21.439 I love that. 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.919 Nicole and Jimmy and of course Maria q Caine. You 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.400 get the whole name in there, Mom and daughter of course, 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.120 the stars of our Mother Knows Death podcast on the 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:32.640 Elvis Dran Podcast Network. May I'll just give give you 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.839 a little business by the way, sure in all of 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.240 our podcasts on our network, you guys are one of 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.879 the best. You guys are doing so well, you're killing it. 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:41.440 Thank you. 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:47.400 Speaking of killing it, of your weekly podcast, of course, 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:51.239 focuses on pathology, forensics, death, and you don't do it 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:55.240 in an overly clinical way. You guys talk about all 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.960 these incredible fun subjects in a way we understand what 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:00.160 you're saying, and I appreciate it. 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.160 Thanks. I feel like when I was in college, I 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.920 had a really hard time understanding all of these fancy 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.679 medical words, so I had to dumb it down for myself. 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.480 You know, I'm a high school drop well, so you 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:16.200 know I had to bring it down to my level. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.640 But that I feel like that that helps me explain 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:19.560 it to people better. 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:24.240 But both of you are I feel stupid after a moment. 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.120 I'll show you both because you both are so educated, 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:31.160 especially you know, hyper focusing on pathology. And it's just 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:33.000 don't you feel like you learned something every time you 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:33.479 hang out. 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:34.959 With them without a doubt. I mean, even if you 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.800 just follow them on Instagram or follow Mother Knows Death 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.480 and Missus and Jemmy on Instagram, you learned so much 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.560 about like mister diagnoses and all kinds of other things. 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.399 Well, God, you brought them to us first. Yeah, you 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.360 had them on your podcast. What was it that was 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.960 so interesting to you about them that made us go, 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.840 oh my god? So you know we were gonna steal 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:55.280 them from you. 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.480 I love women in science number one, so that is 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:01.720 always exciting to me. But this stories that they have, 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:07.320 especially Nicole about her time doing you know, pathology assistant 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.800 research and pulling things apart. And when she said, everything 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:12.960 that gets taken out of a body comes to her 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:14.840 and then she gets to analyze it and kind of 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.239 break like figure out what happened here or what's going 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.000 on with it. I was riveted, especially when you find 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.320 out some of the things that come out of a body. 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.200 So you would go in with all the pathology team, 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.560 and after someone passes away, you go inside to try 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:30.560 to figure out why they died. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:36.360 Two different there's two different divisions of our job, which 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.200 is one is surgical pathology. So any single thing that 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.640 ever gets taken out of a person's body goes to 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.839 our lab. So that could be something as simple as 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:50.640 teeth or a quarter a kid swallowed. Also really weird 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.519 stuff people put in their bodies. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:54.840 A lot of guys tripping and fallen in the shower. 0:02:55.040 --> 0:03:00.480 Yeah, yeah, guys landing on things. What's the weirdest things 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:04.320 ever come to you? I'm sure I've said this before. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:05.639 It's the half eaten pair. 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:08.919 I don't remember what there's a story behind it. Tell 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:10.240 the half eaten pairs. 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.800 Oh yeah, some woman put a pair in her husband's 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:19.680 rectum and started eating it and it got sucked up. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:21.160 Okay. 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.400 They say, never put things in there that isn't connected, or. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:26.919 It's a broad based. 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:35.520 Like a ball and chain like a tether ball. Wow, okay, 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.160 but it was eaten and then. 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:42.480 But what's cool though, is like you know, she was 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.200 talking about teeth, but also a bullet. You will take 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.880 that and analyze that right. Or a breast implant, Oh yeah, 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:48.680 we got anything. 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.400 I have gotten a bullet before. We don't commonly get 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.720 them because they should go right to the medical examiner's 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.000 office with the body. But yeah, I mean breast implants 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:02.120 that fail, penis and plants that fail. Wow, things like 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.720 and obviously we get other things like breasts entire breast 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.760 if a person has breast cancer, colon if a person 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:08.520 has colon cancer. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.200 Oh so when I had my breast reduced, they said 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.960 that they sent mine out to get checked, and that's 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:15.760 how I found out I was higher risk for breast 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.120 cancer because everything gets checked and they send it out 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:20.400 when they take it out of your body. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.560 Yeah, so it would come to me and we would weigh, 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.920 especially in reduction cases. Sometimes the weight of it has 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.520 to do if insurance will pay for it or not, 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.479 if it's cosmetic, or if it's actually causing you medical problems. 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:36.760 And we cut it up and we look for tumors 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:38.840 and we have found incidental cancers and those. 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:39.320 Wow. 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:40.400 Yeah. 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.520 My thought is this, If I go into my doctor 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.799 every year for my physical you know, they scan, they poke, 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:47.880 and prod and that's as bed as far as they 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:53.280 get blood. Of course, blood that helps. What is wrong 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.760 with the thought here? I just want to go in 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.600 as a somewhat healthy functioning guy. I want you to 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:01.760 put me on the table and just start digging around 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:03.839 in there and try to find something wrong. Is that? 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:04.279 Is that? 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.240 I mean? Is that a stupid way to try to 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:11.720 see if anyone has a problem brewing inside? Or I 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.040 mean it's very invasive, I would assume. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:19.680 But an autopsy, I want to want to I want 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.560 to as like being alive, you want I. 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.280 Want to be a living autopsy? 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.400 All right, So this is what I would recommend you. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.560 They have these full body ct and MRIs you can 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.599 get as it doesn't have to be ordered by your doctor. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.160 You can go and and pay to get that done 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.600 if you really want to find out. That's as close 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.600 as you're getting. No One, no doctor is going to 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.920 cut you open and just peek around and make sure everything's. 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:45.120 Why not, what's what's your problem? 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:46.080 What could possibly go wrong? 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:50.640 Anytime you open the abdomen or the chest, your you 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.600 can cause scarring and adhesions, which is how Lisa Marie 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:54.360 Presley died. 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:58.320 Actually what Lisa Marie Pressley died because of scarring. 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.960 Yeah, from surgical Wow. 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.159 Hey, let's talk about that for a second. Can we 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:07.120 talk about the book. Yes, Okay, So Nicole's writing a 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:11.520 book about celebrity deaths. This is gonna be fascinating because 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:15.080 we're fascinated with celebrity anyway. Yeah, but when they pass away, 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:16.919 sometimes we don't get the whole story. 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:22.400 Yeah, and it's often times wrong. So I've been writing 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.520 about celebrity deaths actually for the past five years. So 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:29.480 I have a collection of almost a hundred of them 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:33.320 already because I do it every week. And yeah, I 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.960 mean it's it's really interesting. So I started writing the 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.479 book and I've only done nine so far because I 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.240 have until next year to write it. So I've been 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.880 just doing it every couple of days and I start. 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.920 But I'm doing everyone from really interesting ones like Gene 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:52.400 Hackman that just died and higher profile cases like Lisa Marie, 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.920 but also older ones like Gilda Radner and al Capone 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:57.799 died from syphilis. It's just so interesting. 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.200 Wait wait, back up. Wow, I know al Capone, I 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.160 can see, But Gilda Radner died from so civil No, no, no, she. 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:05.520 Has a varying kid. I'm just. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:09.279 What about Amy wine House. 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.800 Will she be in there, Amy Winehouse will be in there. Yeah. 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.080 I wrote about her a couple of years ago because 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:18.640 she died from effects of the alcoholism. So it's it's 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.960 gonna be really awesome. Really, it's it's comprehensive, just people 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:27.040 Alex Trebek, Steve Jobs, just Freddie Mercury, just really it's 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.640 it's awesome, And it's just it's not a lot of reading, 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.120 because I'm not a huge reader like that. You could 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.080 read one and be done and go back to it 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.000 and start off. It's not a continuous book. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.520 Like a fun little anthology. Yeah, it's just like cliff notes. 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:40.200 You know. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:41.960 One of the things that she said that I thought 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:43.760 was so fascinating. I think about it all the time 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.240 whenever we hear a cause of death now, is that 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.200 cardiac arrest as a cause of death is kind of 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.880 a cop out because everyone's gonna die when their heart stops, 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.520 of course, but what caused the heart to stop is 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.840 more interesting in what they kind of try to analyze that. 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.800 It literally just happened yesterday because I wrote it down 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:02.200 because I want to put it in my book. So 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.160 Michael Jackson was the most That's what they were saying 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.040 he died of cardiac arrest. But cardiac arrest just major 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:12.160 heart stops. So like, no, shit, that's how everybody dies, right. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.440 But yeah, so they just did it with Jane Goodall. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.000 They just came out and said her cause of death 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.760 was cardiac arrest. I just saw it, and she died 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.880 from complications of old age, which, well, that. 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:27.520 Was your favorite to you, right, because that's how they 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.480 said the queen died old age. 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:33.800 Old age doesn't answer my question, like the body just 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:34.319 gives out? 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:35.280 What is it? 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.959 Okay, what's the scientific term for the body just gives up? 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.559 And there's things that happen as you age, like your 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.200 blood vessels become weaker, and you can get calcifications and 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.640 things like that which can lead to stroke and coronary 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.960 artery disease and things like that. But that would be 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.240 what you put on the death certificate. That's what would 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.200 be the cause of death, not old age. 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:57.360 Old age. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.079 I love it and I use it in my lecture. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.240 Is an example of her actual death certificate. It says 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:03.880 old agent. 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.640 That's wild that I wanted to stay in mind too. 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.760 And you know, in the hospital and stuff, we always 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.000 have doctors that put cardiac arrest, and then we have 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:14.600 to go up to them and say this is this 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.280 is not a cause of death, like change it, figure 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.839 out what happened and be more specific. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.040 So it's funny though, because we had an episode coming 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.880 out this week. Actually we had another expert, justin Scott 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:26.520 Morgan on our show and the two of them are 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.760 geeking out about causes of death, and we were talking 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.480 about a story where a woman unfortunately was kicked in 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.840 the chest by a student and died. And I said, 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.280 as a layperson, I'm accepting a face value that she 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.240 just got kicked and died. And they're talking about all this. 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.080 You know, she could have her heart could have stopped, 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:42.880 she could have had a clog, all this other stuff, 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:44.360 and I'm just mind blown by. 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:54.120 The kicked and died the certificate. I wanted to to say, 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:59.160 just gave up. He just gave up, give up, he 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.040 was done, so go ahead. 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.600 Is there a lot of conflict then between doctors and 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.880 pathology teams when they put something like that on a 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.160 death certificate and you guys come back and say no, no, no, 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.480 you need to change that. Do you guys argue about it? 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:13.760 No? 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.000 They're usually pretty good it's just kind of a pain 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.520 because we have to track them down and sometimes you 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:22.360 know they're gone for their night, they're not coming back 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.440 for two days, and things like that could hold up 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:28.679 the process. But oftentimes they especially if they're getting an autopsy, 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.880 they might think that they know what the cause of 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.040 death was and then we open them and we change 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.160 it because it's different. Well so and they don't get 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.640 they don't argue with it, like we just can show 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.080 them this is what it is. Come look and there's 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.360 no arguing. It's science right like it's it is what 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:43.679 it is. 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.760 By the way, you're listening to Mother Knows Death with 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:52.080 Nicole and her daughter Maria Stars from our podcast every 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.880 week the pathology, forensics, death and fun stuff that goes 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:58.959 along with it. In your book, though, of your anatomy book, yes, 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.280 do you have Is there an an actual alphabet like 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:06.240 as for anus? Can you recite every single letter? 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.240 No, it's because I had to do. I wanted it 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.680 to be an alphabet and some things I had to 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:17.400 there's there's not really an anatomical organ you would say 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.360 for Z for example, So I use zygomatic bone, which 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.880 is your dis bone in your face. Here your cheekbone, 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.440 so that sometimes I used a whole organ like the heart. 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:31.320 Sometimes I used I might used circulatory system just to 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.880 just to fit it in. But yeah, it was very hard. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:41.320 I used X chromosome okay, yeah, but it just it 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.600 just was random. But I had to do it just 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.600 because I felt like that would be easier for people 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.600 to look at body parts. I just say it's body 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.680 parts because I think I use arm like that's not 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.360 I guess extremity. Maybe I used I don't really know. 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:58.480 This is my point. I need for you to nail 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.440 down the official out for bet get back to me 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:06.160 next time and. 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:08.360 First light it by hard. Yeah. I'm just like, I know, 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:13.120 there's anus, extramity. Everything's there, every single part of your 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:18.560 body and every organ, adrenal, gland, elvis. I didn't write 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:23.200 that book for like three years. My memory is just 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:27.360 the best memory and the worst memory. 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.000 It's weird and funny what the brain will hold on 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.800 to and what it was. So let's talk about that. 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:34.559 As far as the body goes, you can see how 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:38.679 a tendon works, you can see how a bone works 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.480 or whatever. But when it comes to the brain, that's 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.720 a whole other world. That's a it's like it's like 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.000 deep sea diving. It's you're you're you're diving down to 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:48.720 the bottom of the ocean, and it's it's a world 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.040 that we're still finding out more and more every day. 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.360 What have you discovered in your travels as far as 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:59.360 pathology about the brain, Like what has fascinated you? 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:06.440 Well, most people don't realize this, but they're specific. You know, 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:11.120 there's specific brain surgeons. Well, there's specific pathologists that just 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:15.880 do brain and spinal quarter or the nervous system. And 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.320 so when we look when we take out a brain 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.880 and look at it autopsy, we're looking for something that's 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:26.160 blatantly obvious, like they had a stroke and aneurysm, there's 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:30.079 a tumor or something like that, but the very specific 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.679 neurological things that could happen to people. We take that 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:39.280 brain and we save it aside, and a special neuropathologist 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.400 will dissect it days later and look at it and 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:46.120 come up with a diagnosis if it's something like more 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.160 specific like MS or als or something like that. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.400 Yes, are you saying you didn't go to class on 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:52.240 brain day. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:54.240 Day? 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:59.920 People? Exactly, Like it's a whole other field of medicine accent. 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.880 It's just and it's it's very hard to tell. When 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.120 they slice the brain, they'll just look at it and say, oh, 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.880 this minute little thing is this and this. I mean, 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:13.000 you can't see things grossly with your naked eye, like 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.559 schizophrenic or something like that. But you could see Alzheimer's. 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:20.880 You could see CTE. The chronic traumatic encephalopathy is the 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.880 one that you associate with football players, you know, hitting 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.280 their head in multiple concussions. So you could see that. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:33.800 But that's their specialty, and most regular doctors don't want 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:35.600 to deal with the brain because it's like a whole 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:36.200 other beast. 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.680 Wow, I bet well. One of the things I learned 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:42.360 from her about the brain, and our dentist, Elvis, he 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.240 listened to the podcast and was so happy she brought 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.520 it up, was how very closely your mouth is connected 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:48.960 to your brain, and if you do not take care 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:50.880 of your mouth, what can happen to your brain. 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:52.000 Maybe that's my problem. 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:53.160 I'm positive. 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.840 I'm going today. I'll have them do me right, chick 0:14:58.880 --> 0:14:59.160 that up. 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.400 I mean, essentially, covity can kill you, right. 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:02.640 Yeah, it really can. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:03.840 Talk about how they can kill you. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.960 I actually had a really crazy case of a young 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.800 girl in her early twenties that had a wisdom tooth 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:14.640 pulled out and then she just got a terrible infection 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:19.120 and we got her whole entire jaw resected that they 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:23.200 sent down to the lab because she had osteomylitis, which 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.200 is an infection in the bone, and they had to 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.800 remove her entire jaw because of it. A lot of 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:33.280 times people take for granted these minor procedures that we 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:37.800 get done, and there could be really bad complications with 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.640 simple things. I just did a case for on my 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:46.480 Instagram account. I do mystery diagnosis every week, and this 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.480 week I had a picture of a person that got 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:54.600 a full sleeve tattoo who died and they got toxic 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:58.880 shock syndrome from getting tattooed. And whenever you hear about that, 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.720 people think, Tampa, Yeah, that's like drilled into our head, right, 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:07.200 But really, you can get it from something as minor 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.680 of a procedure as a tattoo, because it breaks the 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.360 skin and it allows in this special kind of bacteria 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.720 that can release toxins that could spread to your organs 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:20.200 and kill you. So it's and you could get it 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.680 with a scrape or anything. It's just and people think 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:28.880 tattoos or everybody has a tattoo, but it is you're 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.960 putting a large abrasion over your skin that could let 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:36.240 you're letting down that protective barrier and bacteria from the 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:38.200 outside world could get in really easily. 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:42.120 What's up scary? 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:44.800 You know, I'm fascinated with the liver because I know 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.320 that that's associated with drinking and stuff. Could you tell 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.000 right away when you see a liver, like, oh, that 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.160 person drink a lot over their lifetime, and what does 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:52.640 that look like. 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.240 So first, when you drink a lot, you get your 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.680 liver starts to get replaced by fat and it gets 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.600 it actually gets bigger than it normally should get. And 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.400 it's really cool because sometimes when you open the body, 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.119 the liver's so big that you could see the impressions 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.560 from the ribs because it's pushing up against the ribs. 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.600 It's really I mean, it's not cool for them obviously, 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:19.520 but it's cool scientifically. And then once it has so fatty, 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.120 liver is considered to be reversible. So if you ever 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.320 get diagnosed with that, if you stop drinking, it could 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.520 go back to normal. But once it starts scarring up, 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.639 it gets cirrhosis, and then it starts to shrink and 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.400 it looks very nodular and it's very striking. You can 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:38.040 tell the difference and it becomes smaller, and you also 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:43.560 get associated things with that. You can get hemorrhoids, and 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.600 if there's any kind of a blockage of the portal system, 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.720 which is a part of the circulatory system that goes 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.000 through the liver, it can make blood back up into 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.680 the anus with hemorrhoids, and it could also do it 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:01.520 in the esophagus. You could get swelling in the legs, 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:03.800 you could get your your spleen could get really big. 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.479 So there's kind of a pattern you see with it 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.080 as well. Wow fluid you ever see like an alcoholic 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.520 might have, like a belly that looks pregnant on a man, 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.520 It's just filled with fluid. It's just a whole picture 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.359 you see when you when you open them up. 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:19.119 That's how my system was after college. 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:24.359 A little bit difference between like the fat the fat 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.400 because that's the omental fat. That's the fat that sits 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.280 on top of your organs that acts as not only 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.120 protection for your organs, but it insulates and keeps them 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:34.760 to your body temperature. 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:38.159 As well, so, as you know, mother and daughter doing 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.040 a podcast together, how much fun do you have when 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.240 you sit in front of those microphones both of you 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.800 talk to me about a topic or two you've had 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.159 recently on the podcast, where you just go on and 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:52.320 on because you're so excited about where you're going. You 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.679 have way too much material because you just get so 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.920 passionate about how much fun you're having something. 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:00.359 This is the memory thing. It's like people say, would you, 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.200 I'm like, I don't even know what we talked about. 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.560 I mean you like to go down the morose, gross 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.040 avenue from time to time, and. 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:10.640 Oh yeah, we have fun. You know. We have some 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.480 stories where we end up going on tangents where we 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.320 start talking about personal stuff. We really love making fun 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.160 of my grandparents. They're such easy targets and our listeners 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:21.800 love hearing the stories. So those are always fun. And 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.040 then we fight sometimes and the listeners. 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:27.399 Seem to like that, so we do. We fight, and 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.600 then they and I'm just like, she's my kid. I'm sorry, 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.639 I'm gonna put her in a place, but she's like, 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:34.040 you're a boomer. Stop it. 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:37.960 Like also, just two Italian women talking to each other, 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.280 So I think people think we're always fighting, but it's. 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.320 You should see our family parties. It's everyone is talking 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:46.840 over each other and it's really loud. 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:46.960 No. 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.800 I mean yesterday though, I went on especially a tangent 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.199 about Kevin Federline's book for probably way too long, and 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.320 everybody didn't want to hear about it. But we get 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:58.040 passionate about things, and I feel bad for Brittany so good. 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:03.760 Yeah, and I have a different opinion, are you too? Yeah? 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:08.080