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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four seventh home of the Black and Goal

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Speaker 1: SNR Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Ally,

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Speaker 1: he is Matt Williamson, and Matt's a Friday here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: It's the Friday before the opening of the NFL's twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three season officially starts next week. And a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff to get to today on the show. But

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Speaker 1: I did want to make note that Dick Hayley, the

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Speaker 1: one of the architects of the teams of the seventies,

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Speaker 1: died today. Of course he was was he a Steelers

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Speaker 1: director of pro personnel player personnel, I should say, during

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Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies, basically nineteen seventy one through nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: and so he was. You can draw a direct line

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Speaker 1: from Dick Hayley to Tom Donahoe, to Kevin Colbert and

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Speaker 1: now Omar Khan. That job is morphed into the quote

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Speaker 1: unquote official GM job. But that was Dick Hayley's job

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Speaker 1: back in in the in the seventies when the Steelers were,

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Speaker 1: of course, you know the maybe the greatest franchise or

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Speaker 1: the greatest dynasty in the history of the NFL. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he's a bit of a scouting legend of course,

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh guy, and you know, he it's amazing to me.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm almost fifty years old. I've seen three

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Speaker 1: head coaches and now basically you've seen more or less

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Speaker 1: four gms, you know what I mean, Like just the

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't get looked at in that light like

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Speaker 1: the coaching head coach situation does. But the stability and

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Speaker 1: the stuff that he built, you know, to pass it

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Speaker 1: on to Tom Donahoe and then to Kevin and you know,

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Speaker 1: it makes uh, just such a huge impact on the

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Speaker 1: whole you know, franchise as a whole. Yeah. And of

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Speaker 1: course he's also the father of Todd Haley, the former

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Speaker 1: Steelers offensive coordinator and just uh, um, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: a he's a Washington County guy like I now consider

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Speaker 1: myself um so um yeah, sad to sad to hear

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Speaker 1: that I knew he'd been ill for a while. Um,

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Speaker 1: but thoughts, I go out to the Haley family and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, um, he's starting to see some of these

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Speaker 1: guys pass like that. That's just the reality of the

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Speaker 1: world we live. In um it is but um Anyway, So,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned Matt, the NFL free agent period basically

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Speaker 1: starts next Monday. UM teams can start negotiating deals in

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Speaker 1: the legal tampering period. So I thought we'd start the

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Speaker 1: show today by taking a look at some of the

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Speaker 1: free agents who were out there, and uh, I thought

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Speaker 1: need for the Steelers. So I really wanted to take

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Speaker 1: a hard look at the linebacker position. Okay, um, and

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Speaker 1: if you look at that, I'm just going off the

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Speaker 1: list here that Pro Football Focus has your their top

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Speaker 1: guys available. You got Lavante David, You gots Romaine Edmunds,

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Speaker 1: David Long, Bobby Wagner, t J Edwards, Bobby Oca, Rique Layton,

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Speaker 1: Vander Esch, Jermaine Pratt, Drew trankwill Alex Singleton from the Broncos,

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Speaker 1: Kaiser White, another Eagle player, ziz Al Shehi here um

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Speaker 1: Denzel Perryman, Hoel Holcom Eric Kendricks got added to that

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Speaker 1: Quincy Williams with the Jets, Anthony Walker from the Browns,

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Speaker 1: I've been saying that all along because this class, it

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Speaker 1: a wealth of off the ball linebackers. Probably the first

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Speaker 1: talk about Miles Jackson. Here's what I would do with him.

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Speaker 1: Matt He's still twenty seven years old, right, so I

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Speaker 1: not forget he led led the team attacks last year, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: replacing him, and then I'm still going to have a need.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, I mean, I think if you cut him,

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Speaker 1: one right now, I'm in much better shape. Yes, I mean,

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Speaker 1: even if it's the Bobbioka reque, you know, he's a

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Speaker 1: the end Robinson and maybe even Spillane at a bargain

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Speaker 1: I'm I don't love drafting one high, I just don't

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Speaker 1: because I don't love this class. There's so many other

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Speaker 1: might change after free agency. That's the only thing I'll

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Speaker 1: using a day to pick on linebackers. Well my problem

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Speaker 1: I've got Jack and Bobby Wagner where I've got Jack

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Speaker 1: But I think that fifth guy can play, can play

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Speaker 1: I'm not dissing Mark Robinson at all, but he was

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Speaker 1: I don't mind the idea. I don't want to take

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Speaker 1: one early in the draft in the first round, probably

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Speaker 1: not even with the pick at thirty two, but I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking about it at forty nine. I'm definitely thinking about

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Speaker 1: to find those guys. It's not you're right, You're right.

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Speaker 1: was it Jackson out of Appalachian State or whatever? I think. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a ton of them, either in

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Speaker 1: you and I will be in Latrobe saying here's four

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Speaker 1: off the ball linebackers that have had pretty decent careers

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Speaker 1: that you could sign for league minimum. Yeah, it's almost

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Speaker 1: like the safety position. Now, Funny you brought that up

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Speaker 1: because I was looking at the safeties. I would love

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Speaker 1: become the true middle class of Yeah, defensive free agency.

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants to pass rushers. Everybody wants the guys who

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Speaker 1: Most of them didn't work out that well. You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he he gives you pass rush, but he's

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Speaker 1: like he's not he'll end up with two sacks, but

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Speaker 1: to He's gonna have to be somebody that I know

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Speaker 1: if I know right now a Lulu Ogan job warmly

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Speaker 1: something like that. Um, go get yourself a Bud Dupree

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Speaker 1: I mean, and the draft wouldn't be terrible for that,

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Speaker 1: The projection here on Pro Football Focus for bud Dupree

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Speaker 1: But he's thirty, he starts Wow. That surprised me that

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the perfect storm with that. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: now he's a perfect example for me. If they're talking

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Speaker 1: under four million a year. Yeah, absolutely, sign me up.

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Speaker 1: gonna come back with well. Daniel Jeremiah has updated his

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Speaker 1: top fifty list. Matt, oh cool, I got some new

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