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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal home that for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 3: Is that woof?

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Speaker 4: Woof?

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Speaker 2: And Dan and Tye welcome back to the solid Verbo

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Speaker 2: boys and girls. My name is ty Hillenbrandt, joining me

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Speaker 2: as always over there and beautiful in sunny, in springy

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Speaker 2: in the heart of the Midwest, Chicago, Illinois. Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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Speaker 2: how are you ringing springy? It's I'm trying to make

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna have a day today. That's what I'm

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Speaker 5: That's how I'm feeling. So we have playoff teams. We

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Speaker 5: waited to start this show until we have the official

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Speaker 5: top four rankings. We have two three. I don't know

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Speaker 5: how many coaching hires that we're gonna have to talk

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Speaker 5: about on live streams on YouTube dot com slash of

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Speaker 5: the Solid Verbal today. But I am I am ready.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to empty everything I have in my very soft,

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Speaker 5: weird brain today because there are thoughts about the postseason.

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Speaker 5: There are thoughts about Championship Week, there are thoughts about

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Speaker 5: my team losing a coach if that happens. At the

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Speaker 5: time of recording, nothing's confirmed, but I'm sure it will

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Speaker 5: be soon. I just I'm everything's coming out of me,

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Speaker 5: ty everything, every every possible way.

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Speaker 2: That's weird. Now that I hear myself say it's strange,

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Speaker 2: It's okay, we're finds. I'm preparing to launch, is what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah. Well, look, it's the last week of

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Speaker 2: the season. So if you can't leave it on the field, now,

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Speaker 2: when the heck are you gonna do it? Dan? True,

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Speaker 2: that's my question to you. Thank you for downloading, for listening,

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Speaker 2: for playing along, thank you for bearing with us all

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Speaker 2: season long. Championship Week is in the books. We've got

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Speaker 2: our playoff matchups set. We will talk about those momentarily.

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Speaker 2: We would first encourage you to go on out to

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Speaker 2: but we've got a lot of content planned as we

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Speaker 2: get into bowl season. And oh, by the way, we

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Speaker 2: do have some breaking news Dan on that front.

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Speaker 5: We do you know why we have breaking news because

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Speaker 5: we are in the midst of maybe the ultimate December.

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Speaker 2: To remember it is true. Dan, thank you keep that

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Speaker 5: It's your helmet in the ring, all right, ty, where

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Speaker 5: are we starting steer this ship? I am steering this

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Speaker 5: ship in the direction of the college football Playoff. We

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Speaker 5: have our top four. History has been made. Cincinnati becomes

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Speaker 5: the first ever group of five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do it, baby? Continue at long last, we have

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Speaker 2: their huge victory over Georgia in the SEC title game. Michigan,

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Speaker 2: We will obviously dissect those games much much more as

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Speaker 2: the marketplace. But two games where both of the SEC

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Speaker 5: I bump. I might bump the Bama line up. And

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Speaker 5: I think I saw our buddy jacked Chris Fawler talking

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying Alabama's winning it, killing Cincinnati are covering

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Speaker 5: huh really, But yep, we'll find out. Why don't we

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Speaker 5: This would be the fourteenth straight week of doing it.

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Speaker 5: We've shut the reverblind down now. I think until we

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Speaker 5: a great batch of calls at four h eight verbal one.

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Speaker 5: A great job is always to our guy Dylan for

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Speaker 5: cutting and he's up in a very timely fashion.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate all of his efforts. We appreciate the support

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Speaker 2: of the verbowlerhood. Dan here, it is one last job

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Speaker 2: week fourteen. Reaverbs have a listen.

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Speaker 1: This is Jeremy from Winnipeg, Minnesoba, Canada, and I have

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Speaker 1: a theory says Alabama is a death Star and Nick

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Speaker 1: Saban is Darth Vader? Does that make twenty nineteen Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow Skywalker and ed Orgeran Princess Leia just a thought?

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Speaker 2: Dan Tie, This is Scott and Lawrence, Dan Tie.

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Speaker 4: This is Michael from.

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Speaker 1: Austin, Hi, Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 3: This is Lauren in Chicago.

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Speaker 4: Dan Tye.

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Speaker 1: This is Sean from Seattle.

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Speaker 4: I know you guys don't use.

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Speaker 1: Swear words, so holy bleak, we're.

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Speaker 2: Going to the Rose Bowl. I just watched my Appalachian

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Speaker 2: State Mountaineers get tramped by Louisiana, and I am very sad.

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Speaker 2: My Bears just won a big soft championship.

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Speaker 1: I just spiked my shirt in the middle of my

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Speaker 1: lipping room. Sick'm bear, who's the Big twelve championship game?

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Speaker 6: Proudly shooting his conference in the foot since nineteen ninety six,

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Speaker 6: Dan Hi, it's it's that guy who writes the solid plate.

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Speaker 2: Connor Baylor, Baylor. Yeah, that's about it.

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Speaker 6: Stick everything, stick them, stick all the things Baylor.

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, Baylor's defense has turned into an iron

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Speaker 1: The goal line. Blake Chapin does not.

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Speaker 6: Miss stick them Bear. This coach O, I'll just call

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Speaker 6: him garis about over job opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. This is Brian Kelly.

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Speaker 6: My Southern acci didn't go very well, so trying out

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Speaker 6: a deep occasion thing the Oaks.

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Speaker 1: Tagger.

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Speaker 2: Hi, this is Austin from in.

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Speaker 4: Columbus, Ohio. I just want to say Cincinnati. They did

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Speaker 4: it for Boise State, for Fresno State, for Hawaii, for Houston,

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Speaker 4: for UCF, for k It's all for PCU, for every

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Speaker 1: School they didn't want in there. Sun goes down, offense

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Speaker 1: comes out in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 7: It is currently eleven twenty at night, and I just

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Speaker 7: watched my Cincinnati Bearcat clinch a birth to the college

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Speaker 7: football Playoffs. Whatever ride this has been, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 7: Go Bearcat, Let's win the Natty Baby.

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Speaker 3: And although my beloved Notre Dames Fighting Iris are not

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Speaker 3: playing this weekend, I still had to call you to

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Speaker 2: Go markets in the Notre Dame fide Irish love it.

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Speaker 6: I just wanted to give can you pick At a

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Speaker 6: shout out for that awesome opening run against wake Forest. Also,

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Speaker 6: does that mean that I could go play quarterback for

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Speaker 6: slide my way all the way down tom Osborn field

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Speaker 6: never had, but that would be legendary.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me that Alabama quarterback had a generational performance

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Speaker 1: against a Georgia defense. No, and I'm happy that plucky

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Speaker 1: underdog teams.

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Speaker 3: Like Alabama have the opportunity to make the College football playoffs.

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Speaker 1: For one role.

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Speaker 3: Tie it's a halftime Alabama twenty four, Georgia seventeen. I'm

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Speaker 3: just going to say it now that Kurt Warner biopick

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Speaker 3: has more promise than Georgia's process in the second half world.

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Speaker 6: Time, and rumors of the Ghats demise were greatly exad.

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Speaker 1: Thank so, let's I got a question for you. While

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Speaker 1: was the Georgia fan saying go DAGs because he didn't get.

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Speaker 4: That of you.

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Speaker 2: Oh alrighty wow, that does it? A incredible season of reverbs.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate one and all calling in. There were many dozens,

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Speaker 2: if not thousands of folks who called in and weren't

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Speaker 2: able to get messages played. We yeah, do our best

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Speaker 5: To as many voicemail leavers voicemailers as we possibly can.

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Speaker 5: By the way, I did hear that. I think in

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Speaker 5: my eyes it was like a Luren from Chicago in there. Okay,

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't know what her message was, but

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Speaker 5: I think I told you this that a buddy of mine, Scott,

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Speaker 5: But yeah, a lot went into this win. Of course,

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Speaker 5: Georgia started out pretty well. They were going to James Cook,

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Speaker 5: So that that's rough. But no, I think you hit

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Speaker 5: But they came to play. I don't know if it

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Speaker 5: the Georgia offense with Stetson Bennett, and I know Georgia

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Speaker 5: So I can. I can understand the finger pointing, because

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Speaker 2: And Bennett had a very good year. His ceiling maybe

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Speaker 5: More of a an in theory quarterback than anything at

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Speaker 5: I mean, I feel it was it's New year, same story.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was the exact same score as when they

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Speaker 2: that was dictated largely by big plays. That was a

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Speaker 2: little bit about Bama's defense, but they frankly just took

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Speaker 2: they played the Big Finn Championship game. Stetson Bennett's final

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Speaker 2: line three forty three touchdowns, two picks. It is a

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Speaker 2: over then to the Big Ten Championship. Dan forty two

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Speaker 5: It was absolutely a crock potting in a very vintage

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Speaker 5: Came back, spilled the egg roll sauce all over my couch,

432
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Speaker 5: which still needs cleaning up because I'm just a sloppy idiot,

433
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,239
Speaker 5: and everybody was very happy. I got a call, like

434
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Speaker 5: three calls in the car from my wife, and I

435
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 5: was like, oh God, something's wrong, something's wrong with the

436
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 5: kid or something, and she was just like, Josh Gaddis

437
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 5: just threw a trick play Josh Gaddis to Roman Wilson,

438
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 5: Roman reigns, and so she was very excited. I think

439
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 5: that put Michigan up fourteen. I want to say, right,

440
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 5: the Blake Korum run was the first touchdown. Then you

441
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 5: had the Tass trick pass, trip double pass, from Donovan

442
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 5: Edwards to Roman Wilson to go up two scores. Look,

443
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 5: the takeaway is Michigan has rung everything it possibly can

444
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Speaker 5: out of this offense.

445
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Speaker 2: Right.

446
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 5: The offensive line has dramatically improved over these last few years.

447
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 5: The running game has improved. Hassan Haskins, even if he's

448
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 5: not getting a ton of yardage against a top defense,

449
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 5: is still making winning plays. Sam can be said for

450
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 5: Kate McNamara, who has been a little bit sloppy with

451
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 5: the Ball of Light but is still making winning plays.

452
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 5: I guess that's my new thing, right, Whereas like, even

453
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Speaker 5: if you're not great, be great occasionally, and that's what

454
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Speaker 5: he was. And so Michigan came to play. They were

455
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 5: creative enough and played to their identity in a positive way,

456
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Speaker 5: which is where Iowa and the Wolverines differ enough that

457
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 5: they were scoring points. They had Iowa on the ropes.

458
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Speaker 5: And a defense can only be as good as its

459
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 5: offense is competent for four quarters. And eventually, if Iowa's

460
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Speaker 5: offense is doing its own defense no favors, it's an

461
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 5: alley oop gone awry. And that's where we are now.

462
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Speaker 5: I think it's a story of Michigan breaking through and

463
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Speaker 5: making those winning plays and coming through when it counts,

464
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Speaker 5: both on offense and defense. Aiden Hutchinson is beyond a dude,

465
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Speaker 5: whatever that means. And the Michigan defense has improved and

466
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Speaker 5: adjusted quite impressively from where they've been. I just I

467
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 5: came away so impressed with where Michigan has ascended to

468
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Speaker 5: as a program and disgusted with what I saw from

469
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Speaker 5: what Iowa refuses to do.

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Speaker 2: Can we talk about Kirk Farens and this Iowa offense please?

471
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Speaker 5: It's we can, And I don't know, we don't want

472
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Speaker 5: to do a terribly long show today. But my only

473
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Speaker 5: takeaway is very similar to what I felt about Wisconsin,

474
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Speaker 5: but maybe even more dramatically. So Iowa is insanely impressive

475
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Speaker 5: that they can win ten games without at all consistent

476
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 5: or even average quarterback play based on a very specific

477
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Speaker 5: way of winning, which is ball control on offense and

478
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 5: turning the ball over on defense. And so that's impressive

479
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 5: in its own way that Iowa's in this game, but

480
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Speaker 5: that Iowa is so stubborn about changing things on offense sematically,

481
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 5: coaching staff wise, and that it's the head coach's son

482
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 5: running the offense. See almost literally into the grounds. As

483
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 5: you know, a Spencer Petris ball again falls incomplete. I

484
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 5: it's an unseerious program, not in that they're doing things

485
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 5: that take away from winning the national championship or something

486
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 5: like that, but they could run an average offense in

487
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Speaker 5: Iowa City and they steadfastly refused to for whatever reason.

488
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Speaker 2: Dan, this is a modern college football example of the

489
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: Emperor having no clothes. Sure is somebody gonna tell Kirk

490
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Speaker 2: Ferens about this. Has he ascended to that level within

491
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Speaker 2: the Iowa program that somebody can't give him a little

492
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Speaker 2: nudge and say, come on, man, Like, this isn't an

493
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: original take At this point, I know the offense is bad.

494
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: It's bad, and it's unfair frankly to both Spencer Petris

495
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Speaker 2: and Alex Badilla and his flotilla and all all of

496
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Speaker 2: the Iowa quarterbacks we've seen, pretty much all the quarterbacks

497
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Speaker 2: we've seen over the last decade. Yeah, this offense is

498
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 2: straight out of Techno Super Bowl. There are eight plays.

499
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: There are eight plays that these guys run. It's the

500
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: same eight plays. There's no creativity. They're running play action

501
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 2: passes when you know they're gonna throw it. There's no

502
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: threat of a run there, guys, what's going on here?

503
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: Mike McDonald. Mike McDonald came over from the Ravens. He

504
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: gets paid to do this. He looks at the tape.

505
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 2: He has a brain. All he does is study what

506
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Speaker 2: you're going to do. He knows what you are going

507
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 2: to do when you do it. Anyway, what he expects

508
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 2: gonna happen. He lose by thirty nine.

509
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Brian Farrence came to you from the bedroom down

510
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 5: the hall. That's I know he was with the Patriots

511
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 5: or wherever he was, but that's you know.

512
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Speaker 2: What I've been trying to do though, Yeah, what I've

513
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: been trying to do because I have some familiarity with

514
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: this back in the Paterno days when Joe bahired his

515
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 2: kid to run the offense and at the time, remember

516
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Speaker 2: the spread HD that was kind of like a punchline

517
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Speaker 2: to some extent because he wasn't good at running the

518
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Speaker 2: offense either. He was better than Brian Ferrence, but jpus

519
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: thing was he would try to teach was it Anthony

520
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: Morelli at the time using madd in two thousand and eight,

521
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: one of the video games How to Play Quarterback, And

522
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: you know that didn't work. Morelli was horrible. He's a

523
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: five star, but he's horrible and it never worked. He

524
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: just wasn't a good coordinator and Morelli wasn't a good quarterback.

525
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: And it's just frustrating. I feel for the Iowa people

526
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: because they have a good program. The defense does more

527
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: than carry its fair share. But when you go up

528
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: against a team like Mission Michigan, excuse me that again,

529
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: I will re emphasize is legitimately good, legitimately coorized. Last year,

530
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: Mike McDonald has worked out, Josh Gattis is calling really

531
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: good creative plays within that system. They're staying within themselves.

532
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: They're doing so much right. They're number two in the country.

533
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: They're going to get a crack at Georgia. I'm excited.

534
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for them. Right, when you play against a

535
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: team like that, you're gonna lose. They're almost as good

536
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: as Michigan State. Michigan is, by the way, Yeah, yeah,

537
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I would love to talk about Iowa football

538
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: for a long long time. A bunch of people coming

539
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: after Brian Farrence for jobs. Yes, no, probably not. Yeah,

540
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: And that's the difference. Right.

541
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Speaker 5: There are coaches sons who coach, but usually they go

542
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 5: elsewhere because they don't want to rely on the easy routes.

543
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 5: And that's you know, Kyle Shanahan coaching elsewhere and all

544
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 5: things like that. And I believe Kyle did coach with

545
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 5: his father eventually, But for every Kyle Shanahan, there's a

546
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 5: lot of these situations. It's unfortunate because i was a

547
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 5: major major program that look Iowa with similar talent to

548
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 5: what they currently have, but with a better run offense,

549
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 5: could have beaten Michigan. They weren't serious about it, and

550
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 5: this is what we get. Iowa had a great season

551
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 5: all things considered. Yeah, getting double digit wins, great year.

552
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 5: But it's just a tough watch. And I mean, we

553
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 5: can talk about this within the context of last year

554
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 5: in the playoff and this year in the playoff or whatever,

555
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 5: but like if Iowa had come into this game twelve

556
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 5: and zero and lost was forty two to three as

557
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 5: a final score, yeah, shouldn't be in the playoff. No,

558
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 5: you've blown out in conference championship game. And we can

559
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 5: talk about Georgia win that situation as well in a

560
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 5: little bit, But yeah, that was that was a rough

561
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 5: watch and an amazing watch all at the same time.

562
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: Cincinnati wins thirty five twenty over Houston to seal the deal.

563
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: They get into the playoff. Their reward for doing so

564
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: is Alabama. I can make a very good case that

565
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: regardless of whether or not they beat Alabama, the prize

566
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: is just making the playoff. The fact that we've gotten

567
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: here is very significant for college football. Do not undersell

568
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: that point, even though it's been assumed for a couple

569
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: of weeks running now that if they win there in

570
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: a group of five team making it a bunch of

571
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: Power five conferences being left out I think is significant

572
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: in the ongoing expansion discussions. This is significant. Do not

573
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: undersell the fact that Cincinnati is now here in the playoff.

574
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: They will be dogs against Alabama, but the fact that

575
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: they're there I think is very very significant. In this game, especially,

576
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: Houston looked competitive early and they were getting pressure, which

577
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: isn't a surprise if you listen to our show, if

578
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: you followed Houston at all this year, they were able

579
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: to get some early pressure. But beyond that it did

580
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: sort of go the way we expected, right, and we

581
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: both said it on the previews show. We thought Houston

582
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: was good, legitimately good, but for how long how long

583
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: could they keep pace with Cincinnati in this game? And

584
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: that's eventually what ended up happening. This was fourteen, thirteen

585
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 2: and a half. Cincinnati came out in the second half,

586
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: they ripped off twenty one straight in the third quarter,

587
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: and it was on ice. This game was over. Yep,

588
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: how much of this? Did you watch all of it

589
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: this morning?

590
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 5: I watched it a good chunk yesterday, going back and forth,

591
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 5: but I watched it this morning. And first of all,

592
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Speaker 5: in the Houston inside, I like Clayton Tune. I like

593
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 5: portions of their defense. I'm enamored with Tank Dell right,

594
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 5: the receiver for Houston. Drive ten, one hundred and sixty pounds.

595
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Speaker 5: Whatever he is, he is, he is shifty, he has

596
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 5: high end speed, he's got great hands. He was a

597
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 5: joy to watch and he was a problem for the

598
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 5: American all year long. But similarly, Drove Ford, the guy

599
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 5: just pops. The guy just you know, you give him

600
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 5: an in, she takes a mile and he's terrific. And

601
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 5: the Cincinnati team to make plays on defense and to

602
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 5: adjust like they did on defense, and for Desmond Ridder

603
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 5: to make the plays that he made. And I don't

604
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 5: love this receiving core for Cincinnati. It's I mean, obviously

605
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 5: it's not going to be as talented a team as

606
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 5: the teams they're up against, potentially up against in the playoff,

607
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 5: but they maximize everybody. And I like a team. I

608
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 5: love a team that can turn a fourteen thirteen game

609
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 5: into a thirty five to thirteen game. And what was

610
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: it like six minutes of game time? Yeah, that to

611
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 5: me is quickly right, I mean.

612
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Speaker 2: Ty boy, that escalated quickly, it is. That was sort

613
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: of the theme.

614
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 5: Yeah for conference outside of and even inside of Baylor

615
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 5: Oklahoma State, there is that that sudden escalation Saturday quality

616
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Speaker 5: to what we saw. So, you know, Houston scored I

617
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 5: think another touchdown. The final score is thirty five to twenty.

618
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Speaker 5: But no, I think Cincinnati made its clase, made its

619
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 5: case plain as day.

620
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Speaker 2: Thirteen to zero for the Bearcats, they win the American

621
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Speaker 2: again for them. You're only undefeated FBS team, right, that

622
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: is correct? Yeah, for the umpteenth time, the first G

623
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: five team to qualify for the College Football Playoff. I

624
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: would go a step further to legitimately have a chance

625
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: to win the national championship. We'll see what the knock

626
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: on ramifications are of putting Cincinnati in the playoff. I

627
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: think they will acquit themselves. Well, I really do. I

628
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: think this is a team that we'll be ready to play.

629
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Speaker 2: You're one hundred percent accurate in saying that all the

630
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: teams they play, without any eccept from here on out,

631
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: will have more talent on the roster than them. But

632
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,239
Speaker 2: they are coached very well. They're coach very well, and

633
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: the one thing that they do that Michigan doesn't necessarily do.

634
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Speaker 2: If we're looking at teams outside of Alabama and Georgia

635
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 2: and even to some extent outside at Georgia, Cincinnati does

636
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: have an explosive quality to them with des Ritter and

637
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: their ability to stretch the field, their ability to make

638
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: a really quick play that I think makes them an

639
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: interesting discussion piece. I don't think they're going to beat Alabama,

640
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's as big a mismatch as

641
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: some might be led to believe. If you're just a

642
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: casual observer and you see Cincinnati against Alabama, I think

643
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: they will acquit themselves.

644
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: Well.

645
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean again, where a week removed from Alabama

646
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 5: scoring zero points in the first three quarters against Auburn

647
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 5: and needing whatever was triple quadruple overtime to win that

648
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 5: game against Auburn's backup quarterback. It is, in all likelihood

649
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 5: a reality in which we're going to see the best version,

650
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 5: the best possible version of Alabama their next two games.

651
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 5: But there is a version of Alabama that didn't exist

652
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 5: all that long ago that can lose to Cincinnati. That's

653
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 5: the important thing to remember here where it's overwhelmingly going

654
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 5: to be Alabama, but it's not one hundred percent. It's

655
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 5: not a sure thing. And I think in most years

656
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 5: I would feel like it's a sure thing. So there's that,

657
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 5: and Cincinnati is just an awesome football team with an

658
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 5: awesome crowd. Nippert's great, like the whole the totality, the

659
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 5: three hundred and sixty degrees of the Cincinnati program has

660
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 5: been incredibly fun.

661
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: And I told you that Mommy age called me to

662
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: tell me that she thinks Luke Fickle looks like Rob Wriggle,

663
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: And then we argue that it's either it's either Rob

664
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: Wriggle or Steve Coogan.

665
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 5: Steve Coogan, yeah, some sort of combination. Thereof also a

666
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 5: lot of Notre Dame connections here right between Cincinnati and

667
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 5: the Irish over the years, with Luke Fickle being rumored,

668
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 5: you have what is it? Michael Young is the receiver?

669
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 5: The transfer from Notre Dame. Mike Denbrock. Mike den Brock, right,

670
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 5: the offensive coordinator, was Brian Kelly's first offensive coordinator at

671
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 5: Notre Dame. There was a quarterback way back when, at

672
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 5: the beginning of the Charlie Weiss period the transfer from

673
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 5: Notre Dame Field Gunner Keeble. Wasn't there another guy too?

674
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: Oh?

675
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 2: Probably wasn't there another quarterback?

676
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: Maybe?

677
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: Who is the quarterback that started for Notre Dame against

678
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech? Did you transfer im? I'll find it before

679
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: we I want to say, at least a Golick transferred

680
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: from Notre Dame to Cincinnati? Is it Jay? Is it

681
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: jam Golick?

682
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 5: I don't remember, but a lot of a lot of

683
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 5: over a lot of a lot of overlap. Yeah, yeah,

684
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 5: so again, I mean, I don't have any more compliments

685
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 5: for Cincinnati that I don't think everything there covered. But uh,

686
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 5: an awesome story.

687
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 2: Let's move over to the Big Twelve championship game. Let's

688
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: this was a Nutsoe game. Man, this is a Nutsoe game.

689
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: An incredible ending with a goal line stand by the Bears.

690
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: Desmond Jackson for Oklahoma State reaching out on fourth down

691
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 2: sort of in that Michael Pennox vane that we saw

692
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: a year ago against penn State, Jackson comes up a

693
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: few inches short.

694
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 5: I'd have had the Cowboy as the Pokes comfortably over

695
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 5: Baylor in over Georgia, but that's not a reality in

696
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 5: which we live.

697
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 2: Both fan bases in this game are gonna come away frustrated, Yeah,

698
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 2: because both teams were actively trying to lose this game

699
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: in the second half. If you are in Oklahoma, if

700
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: you are an Oklahoma State fan, dan h Baylor gave

701
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: you so many chances to win this frigging game. Spencer

702
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 2: Sanders looks like he had been tagged with a stun

703
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: grenade all game, like he was out of it. I

704
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 2: don't know what was going on there. Four picks for him. Yeah,

705
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 2: that's now seven picks and two affairs against Baylor this season. Yep.

706
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: It didn't help that Jalen Warren was out for the Pokes,

707
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: but even still, there were a handful of times when

708
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: they had chances in the red zone they couldn't convert. Obviously,

709
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: that play down the stretch that that opportunity to win

710
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: the game with no time left, it was there for

711
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: him and they just could not capitalize. That was sort

712
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: of the recurring theme for the Pokes, and the same

713
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 2: is true for Baylor to some extent, because they were

714
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: trying real hard to lose this game. They had this

715
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: one by the Horns in the first half. Blake's Shapen

716
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: starts off incredibly seventeen of seventeen. But then there's this

717
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: sequence early in the second half when David Randon decides

718
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: to go for it and fourth down deep enough in

719
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: his own territory. Yeah, which something like that. Yeah, it

720
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 2: didn't work out. The Pokes get it back, they get

721
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Momentum shifts, Blake Shapin does something to his shoulder.

722
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 2: I didn't see exactly what, but you know, he's doing

723
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: soft toss on the sidelines, wincing any time he throws

724
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: the ball more than five yards, and suddenly it feels

725
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: like it's coming off the swivel. For the Bears, they're

726
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: able to hold on and win this thing, but along

727
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: the way, they missed two kicks. They had chances galore

728
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: to put this one ice on ice. They weren't able

729
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: to do it. Your final score here was twenty one sixteen.

730
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: In my view, it was the game of the day.

731
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: It kept everybody on pins and needles. It was definitely

732
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: not a clean game down the stretch, No, But in

733
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: terms of a harbinger for what was to come on

734
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: Championship Saturday, it was a pretty good one. They played

735
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 2: this one at high noon in Dallas. Twenty one sixteen.

736
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: A hell of the year for David Rand and the Bears.

737
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you can say at the beginning that

738
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 5: escalated quickly, and then it didn't right, and it just

739
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 5: didn't and then it slowed down and didn't escalate that

740
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 5: much at all. One I recall saying Spencer Sanders threw

741
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 5: three picks. It was arguably his worst game against Baylor

742
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 5: during the season. He's not going to do it again.

743
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: And I was right.

744
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 5: He threw four. So I have that going for me

745
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 5: if I'm going to make it all about myself, and

746
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 5: I yeah.

747
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: I steered into the narrative that this guy might still

748
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 2: suck just because he was good in Bedlam. He might

749
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 2: he might still suck.

750
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 5: I think he's a pretty I think he's a decent

751
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 5: quarterback who is far too mistake prone, which I understand.

752
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 5: Decent quarterbacks are not mistake prone. I understand the fallacy

753
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 5: and that logic. But he is a playmaker who obviously

754
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 5: made winning plays for this program all year long, and

755
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 5: got ten was a big reason why they got to

756
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 5: this point. Not the biggest reason. That would be the defense.

757
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 5: But I admire on a certain level his ability to say, sure,

758
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 5: I've thrown three picks, but I'm still or four picks

759
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 5: at whatever it was at that moment, I'm going to

760
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 5: be demolished and throw it straight up in the air

761
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 5: because we all just are who we are. And so

762
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 5: I admired on a very strange level his ability to

763
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 5: do that.

764
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: And it worked.

765
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 5: I think Oklahoma State caught that ball on a first down.

766
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 5: So just the degree of difficulty to throw and to

767
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 5: have to deal with those four interceptions and still come

768
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 5: within literal inches of winning the game is an almost

769
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 5: impossible task that apparently Oklahoma State was almost up for.

770
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 5: And you're right about the red zone thing. That's to me,

771
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 5: that's the killer everything. I mean, the interceptions, the inconsistent

772
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 5: play at the top. I get all that, but was

773
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 5: it five trips inside the ten netting a you know,

774
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 5: the turnover on downs at the end of the game,

775
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 5: and three field goals, three field liel attempts, and that

776
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 5: one touchdown. That to me is the killer that that

777
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 5: team was not ready to capitalize, that did not have

778
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 5: an ace up their sleeve with their starting quarterback, which

779
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 5: Baylor did not have once again in the Big Twelve

780
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 5: championship game. They it was what Zeno and Bohannon and

781
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 5: Charlie Brewer two years ago in twenty nineteen had the

782
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 5: long Zeno pass who's since transferred. And so in that moment,

783
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 5: knowing that Baylor wasn't going to get to overtime and

784
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 5: win a shootout they had scored in forever, that Oklahoma

785
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 5: State wasn't throughout the game in the red zone inside

786
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 5: the ten, ready for some sort of misdirection, ready for

787
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 5: a plan a one to two three, like I mentioned

788
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 5: with Penn State needing to go to Excelsior right their

789
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 5: secret sequence of plays when they had Michigan on the

790
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 5: ropes a few weeks ago. And so that to me

791
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 5: is the huge disappointment. And they've had those offensive couronators

792
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 5: with the ability to unleash Excelsior and from what we've

793
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 5: seen from Casey Dunn, who was promoted from receivers coach

794
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 5: an excellent receivers coach. Excelsior doesn't exist for the Pokes

795
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 5: in those huge spots, and it's an unfortunate reality with

796
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 5: how good that defense was. And again, the bigger story

797
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 5: here is Baylor holding on for dear life by their fingernails.

798
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 5: Is fingernails to secure this win an unbelievable play at

799
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 5: the goal line. A great story for Dave A. Randa

800
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 5: in year two to win the conference. You can understand

801
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 5: all the interest in him across the sport to be

802
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 5: another program's head coach, but to win this game with

803
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 5: a backup quarterback, to come up with those huge defensive

804
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 5: stops like they did and deepen their own territory. Obviously,

805
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 5: what a year, What a story for the Bears.

806
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: What I and we talked about this earlier when we

807
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: were both upright and early getting ready for the show.

808
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: What I love about Aranda is that Aranda was criticized

809
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: last year for playing some things too conservatively or just

810
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: making this decisions on the coaching side that weren't received

811
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 2: well with Baylor Nation and David Randa now seems like

812
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: the guy who spent a good chunk of the offseason

813
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: reading the internet, and he just said, fit, let's go

814
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: for it, let's do it. I love it. He is

815
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: the anti Brian Harson, right, He's the opposite of Brian Harson.

816
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: Him going for it inside his own territory, deep inside

817
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: his own territory, knowing that it could shift momentum. I'm

818
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: sure that will be analyzed six ways from Sunday, but

819
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: I love the fact that he's got the courage to

820
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: try it, knowing that do it. Yeah, like, we're not

821
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 2: going to be in the playoff, we have an opportunity

822
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: to win the Big twelve, the goal eleven and two.

823
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: Most of the pundits, myself, I don't know if you

824
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: call me a pundit, whatever I am. You know, people

825
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: had him going five and seven, not even making a bowl,

826
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 2: so to be it at the precipice of eleven wins

827
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: a conference championship, you leave your cards on the table,

828
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: and he did it. And then work out in that sequence.

829
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's building a culture and I admire that.

830
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: I admire what Random has done, and good for Baylor.

831
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 2: I'll give you wanted the peak into my reality during

832
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: the Michigan game. I'll give you a peek into my reality.

833
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 2: In that very moment.

834
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 5: We have Sean McDonough and Todd Blacklitch calling the game,

835
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 5: and they're very you know, they're very good and diplomatic

836
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 5: about like, I don't know about this call. This is

837
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 5: a field position game, blah blah blah. Like they were

838
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 5: respectful about it, and they questioned the move. And I

839
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 5: sat on my couch alone, I think kids and Jody

840
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 5: were out and about, and I said to myself out loud,

841
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 5: to nobody in particular, just myself.

842
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: I said, so crazy, just my work. Yeah, I did it,

843
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: just did it, didn't and it led to an Oklahoma

844
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: say touchdown, and so it was. It ended up being

845
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: very bad for the Bears. But I don't know.

846
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 5: If you're going to give me a coach who occasionally

847
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 5: is going to make a bad decision in the interest

848
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 5: of offensive aggression, I'm into it. Maybe that's just a

849
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 5: kink of mine. I'm into it.

850
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: I would always rather have that than mister softy Brian Harson. Yeah,

851
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: quarterback on one leg can beat your biggest rival in overtime,

852
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: a walk off win. Let's kick the extra point. Let's

853
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: just kick it. Play it safe, all right, might work.

854
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the ACC game Dan Yes, Pit forty five,

855
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: Wake twenty one. Speaking of quarterbacks, that threw four picks.

856
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: If Sam Hartman we're in that Oklahoma State game, mm hmm,

857
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: it would have mentally broken him. But poor kid, he

858
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: was mentally shattered after this game against Pitt sort of

859
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: got yippie in the fourth quarter, if I'm being honest.

860
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: He threw picks on back to back drives. The last

861
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: one went for a pick six. It just broke them.

862
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: It broke them. Dave closs and yanked and put the

863
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: backup in. They just ran the clock out because at

864
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 2: that point it was pretty far gone. RG three, who

865
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: was on the call sort of doing his variety show,

866
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: which was fun and unique. I thought he made a

867
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: good comment in that classing pretty much benched him to

868
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: save him from himself at that point, and that's a

869
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: real thing. I understand it. Yeah, I get it. I

870
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: get it. And Sam Hartman's been great for them all year,

871
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: so it sucks that it ended the way it did.

872
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: He only had two hundred and thirteen passing yards in

873
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: this game. For all the trouble that Pitt has had

874
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: against the pass. This year, they really did do a

875
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: good job containing that wake offense, and it was more

876
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: the same on the pit side of the ball when

877
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: they had it. It was Kenny Pickett, it was Jordan Addison,

878
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: it was Kenny Pickett with a fake slide on the

879
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: first touch. Did you see that I did?

880
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 4: That was.

881
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.

882
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 5: I don't know if we can get it enough over

883
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 5: the course of every college football year. I want to

884
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 5: invent I was thinking about this earlier. I want to

885
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 5: vent the hesiman for the best hesitation move of the season.

886
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 5: So you're just flipping the eye in the s and

887
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 5: heisman the Hezeman, because that to unleash that in that

888
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 5: moment now it's probably not planned, but to have the coordination,

889
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 5: Like I love any moment where somebody does the fake

890
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 5: spike right, the fake spike get and then all of

891
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 5: that where it's just like that's teetering on the brink

892
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 5: of poor sportsmanship.

893
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 2: Right, I'm there.

894
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 5: I live in that brink, ty, So I love to

895
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 5: see what Kenny Pickett did there and all.

896
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: Within the rules.

897
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 5: Maybe not with the spirit because of course, like pulling

898
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 5: up Costing, he didn't. But you know, if you watch

899
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 5: Jack Cone do it, or I watched Anthony Brown do

900
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 5: it or whoever. I'd be pretty pumped because that ended

901
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 5: up in the end zone, did it not?

902
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: If Jack Cone did that, he'd tear his ACL Jack

903
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: Cone does not have that kind of athleticism, to be clear.

904
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 5: And I don't think Anthony Brown has acls left, so

905
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 5: it might be moot.

906
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 4: Right.

907
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: Well, this is a good win for Pitt forty five

908
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 2: twenty one. They ended up winning this one going away.

909
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: They finished eleven and two their A SEC champs. Wake

910
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: also has a really good year. They go ten to

911
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: three and impressive season. Oh amazing by any standard for

912
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 2: Wake football. Even Deacon's double digit wins, it's damn impressive.

913
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: I feel badly for Sam Hartman after the year he had.

914
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: I still believe in this offense. I still believe they

915
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: will go out there and score a ton of points

916
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: in the bowl, whatever bowl game they end up going to.

917
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: But you know this is Pitt was a better team

918
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: on this night. There was also an interesting thing that's

919
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: semi related to the game that I did need to

920
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: discuss with you. I love that. So there were about

921
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: fifteen Doctor Pepper tuition throws yesterday. Yeah, it's gotten a

922
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: little bit out of control, but it's fun. We all

923
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Kellen's Slattery was the name of the participant.

924
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: He didn't win, actually, which is disappointing, but I believe

925
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: he invented something. My history could be hazy on the

926
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: Doctor Pepper tuition throw and the different methodologies that folks

927
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: have been using to try and win this thing. But

928
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: Kellen did the move where he would palm two footballs

929
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 2: coming out of the can at once, so instead of

930
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 2: having to go back and forth, back and forth, back

931
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: and more efficient. Yeah, it was sort of like a

932
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: like a hot dog eating contest style jockeying of the

933
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: steps there was he Papa shot at it. He didn't

934
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: Papa shot strategy. Yeah, so he didn't win. He was

935
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: still doing the chess pass or the flick or you

936
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: know whatever they're doing now. But he would do two

937
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 2: footballs at a time, and I just thought, if you

938
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: had somebody who was maybe a little less nervous and

939
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: slightly more accurate, that's the kind of thing that moving forward,

940
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: could really could really do this thing. But you need

941
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: two hands to really execute the chess pass. So where

942
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: was he storing the second ball? He was just doing

943
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: kind of a backhanded flick. Oh, so he was like

944
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: a shovel pass type. He was Papa shotting it in

945
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: that sense. You upset the chess pass. Gods though, when

946
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: you do that. Yes, I guess I've come around me.

947
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 5: And of course, of course, our friend Bud Elliott was like,

948
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 5: move it to fifteen yards, eliminate the chess pass. Let's

949
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 5: see who's who. And I love Bud. I just don't

950
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 5: have thoughts on it, but yeah, it's uh, I have

951
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 5: thoughts on the doctor Pepper thing. You can go back

952
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 5: to the end of the previous episode we did. I

953
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 5: think it's a travesty, right of course. Uh yeah, black

954
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 5: people got a bunch of money for tuition.

955
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: That's good, and let's close it out in the Power

956
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 2: five with the Utah thirty eight Oregon ten, Utah rush

957
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: for one, three touchdowns, Utah going to the rose ball

958
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: for the first time. Hey, that's pretty cool. They go

959
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: ten and three. Oregon finishes ten and three as well.

960
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: A lot of injuries, very inconsistent quarterback play, which I'm

961
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: sure you will discuss here.

962
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 5: I've done it ad nauseam, but continue.

963
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: You have to do it again, my friend. I'm sorry,

964
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 2: it wasn't.

965
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 5: It was actually especially consistent against Utah on Friday night

966
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 5: in all the wrong ways.

967
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, a really topsy turvy season for the Oregon Ducks.

968
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 2: You had the highs of beating Ohio State, you had

969
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: the lows of getting hammered twice against Utah. Yeah, losing

970
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: a stand a truly awful Stanford team as well. Yeah,

971
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: and now we've got the adder of reportedly losing Marrio

972
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: Cristo Ball to Miami reportedly.

973
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 5: I haven't seen anything from a source that I would

974
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 5: deem nationally trustworthy at the time. It's twelve twenty central,

975
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 5: one twenty eastern. But you know, if you know Ross

976
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 5: Dellinger or Bruce or Nicole or any of those people

977
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 5: come in with a confirmation, that's that's the word.

978
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: Man.

979
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: I will say this because this rumor has persisted, yeah,

980
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: for at least a week now, much longer in actuality,

981
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 2: and Marria Crista Ball has not gone out there and

982
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: openly disputed it. Well, there's the.

983
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 5: Negotiation tactic that organ is in the process of offering

984
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 5: him an extension as well. So you see what Miami's offering.

985
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 5: You go back to, I don't know, I don't know

986
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 5: what the from what I've heard at this moment twelve

987
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 5: twenty one Central time, one twenty one Eastern time, he's gone.

988
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 2: He's gone. I'm going to assume that he's gone for

989
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: the purposes of our discussion, so we don't have to

990
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: reaccord this. But okay, I hate to ask the talk

991
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: about question. Talk about it, talk talk about Oregon, talk

992
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: about Utah. By the way, an amazing season for Utah,

993
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 2: Like we need to understand this bowl, Yeah, Rose Bowl,

994
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: I mean, dealt with all this adversity, these horrible tragedies

995
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: over the last you know, I mean year. It's been

996
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: amazing what Kyle Whittingham has been able to do to

997
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: keep the ship together. So good on him and good

998
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: on the Utes. But you know, put a bow in

999
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: this for us.

1000
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, Now, the Aaron Low and Ty Jordan tragedy, it

1001
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 5: is truly horrific. Brbaffel and horbreaking. Utah had an amazing

1002
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 5: season and would have been even better if they started

1003
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 5: cam Rising from the start instead of Charlie Brewer, because BYU,

1004
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 5: while excellent and beats up on pack twelve teams, they

1005
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 5: could have beaten the Cougars and Sam Goes for San

1006
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 5: Diego State, who certainly is beatable, although also very good

1007
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 5: and had a very good season and played for the

1008
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 5: Mountain West Championship. Utah stuck with their game plan. They

1009
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 5: didn't try to do anything too fancy or bombit downfield

1010
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 5: in ways that they weren't doing the rest of the year.

1011
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 5: They win the Pac twelve. It's an amazing story. They

1012
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 5: have dudes, especially younger dudes on defense and that secondary,

1013
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 5: that were just making plays all over the field. Utah

1014
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,479
Speaker 5: was and is the better team. It's a less talented team,

1015
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 5: doesn't really matter all that much because Oregon was not

1016
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 5: able to put it together with a beat up roster,

1017
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 5: as you mentioned, but a team that's good enough and

1018
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 5: healthy enough to have won that game if put in

1019
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 5: a position to do so. But Utah has a better coach,

1020
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 5: Utah has a better staff, Utah has a better group

1021
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 5: of players equipped to win in a moment like that.

1022
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 5: And so hats off to Utah. Great year once again

1023
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 5: and heading to the Rose I don't know if you've

1024
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 5: seen any announcement over who's playing in the Rose Bowl,

1025
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 5: if you've seen any of those le announcements at the

1026
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 5: time we're recording, I assume Ohio State, but I don't know.

1027
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 5: And Oregon, I mean, they played this game two weeks ago.

1028
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 5: Oregon played this game in which they couldn't move the

1029
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 5: ball consistently, they missed open throws. I think the defense

1030
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 5: came to play in a way that they didn't a

1031
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago. Especially in that first half. They

1032
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 5: were making plays, they were getting to cam rising, forcing

1033
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 5: turnovers and playing hard playing you know, they were playing

1034
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 5: well in the trenches. They did everything they could have

1035
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 5: to make that a game in the first half. But

1036
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,959
Speaker 5: as we talked about with other situations Iowa whoever, there's

1037
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 5: only so much that can be done. There's only so

1038
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 5: much that can be done when your offense isn't holding

1039
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 5: up their end of the bargain. And you know, I

1040
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 5: really like and I know you feel fond things for

1041
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 5: Joe Moorehead. I don't know if he was checked out

1042
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 5: on any level he accepted the akron Head coaching job.

1043
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 5: You know, I've heard that he hasn't always been at

1044
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 5: practice this year, and you know he's working, but you know,

1045
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 5: it's just I don't know, maybe Oregon wasn't the right fit.

1046
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 5: And you know, I don't know what that locker room

1047
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 5: is like with rumors swirling and the losses to both

1048
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 5: Utah and Stanford and the inconsistent play at quarterback and

1049
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 5: offense overall, don't I don't know that general tenor of

1050
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 5: that locker room in that program, but I would imagine

1051
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 5: a team more together and a team better equipped from

1052
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 5: the top down to perform on a stage like that

1053
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 5: would have lost that game thirty eight to twenty four,

1054
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 5: thirty one to twenty three something, you know, twenty seven

1055
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 5: seventeen showing a little more on both sides of the

1056
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 5: ball for four quarters, and that hasn't been Oregon for

1057
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 5: the last what three weeks? So whatever the case is

1058
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 5: with Mario, Mario was a very good coach or is

1059
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 5: a very good coach for Oregon with deficiencies, with issues

1060
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 5: and will he get over them in Miami next year,

1061
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 5: in the next few years or Oregon. I don't again,

1062
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 5: don't have confirmation in this moment. Tough to see. Tough

1063
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 5: to see because some of the problems are repeating themselves

1064
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 5: and he doesn't have the type of pressure at Oregon

1065
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 5: that he does or he will or would at Miami

1066
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 5: to like Pitt has been in the acc how long

1067
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 5: eight years. They just added that notch in their belt

1068
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 5: as a program that they won their conference, the ACC.

1069
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 5: Miami's been in that conference since what two thousand and four,

1070
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 5: still waiting, still waiting for this supposedly great program to

1071
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 5: win an ACC crown. So we'll see, we'll see if

1072
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Speaker 5: Mario's the guy. I've been a Mario fan, but a

1073
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 5: crystal ball realist because there's a lot of realities that

1074
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 5: are hard to ignore within this Oregon program. Having now

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00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 5: four years to find and develop a quarterback and inheriting

1076
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 5: justin Herbert's great, handing him off to Marcus Arroyo, not

1077
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 5: so great at offensive coordinator, and not finding a high

1078
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 5: school guy, not finding a guy in the portal. He

1079
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 5: will inherit somebody if he goes to Miami and Tyler

1080
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 5: van Deme, who's great. But now you're going to change

1081
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 5: his head coach. Obviously, he's going to have a new

1082
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 5: coordinator either way. With RHT Lashley leaving. Okay, okay, I'm

1083
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 5: looking forward to seeing how all of this plays out,

1084
00:56:58,560 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 5: whatever the outcome.

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00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: Wow, well, I mean yeah, it's we listen if Mario leaves.

1086
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: If Mario leaves, obviously we're not in a position to

1087
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: confirm anything at time of recording one point thirty on

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00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon. But if and when you find out about

1089
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: this going out to the YouTube channel, we will be

1090
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: doing a stream. We will talk about it there. We

1091
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: will break it down in painstaking detail, not just putting

1092
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: a bow on the Mario crystobaal Era in Eugene, but

1093
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: also trying to break down who organ might look to

1094
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: next to lead the show you want? You want lesser

1095
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: coaching news that has been breaking these past few minutes. Sure,

1096
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: Tulane offensive coordinator Chip Long, who you're familiar with, moves

1097
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: on to Georgia Tech has been hired by Jeff Collins

1098
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: to run their offense. Oh boy, well, I mean he

1099
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: improved Notre Dame's offense? Did he not an offense that

1100
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: needed improving? Okay? And Joe Brady out with the Carolina Panthers. Interesting.

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00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 5: I don't know if he wants to coach college football,

1102
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 5: but he's now how officially a failed NFL offensive coordinator.

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00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

1104
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 5: So doesn't mean he's a bad coach, doesn't mean he's

1105
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 5: not smart. Didn't work out with the Panthers. He is

1106
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 5: a current failed NFL offensive coordinator.

1107
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: So Okay, there's a name. There is a name. There

1108
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: are going to be high profile offensive coordinator openings in college.

1109
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: My assumption is they will not include the receiving core

1110
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: that he inherited at LSU.

1111
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 5: No, that's my assumption that Jamar Chase is not walking

1112
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 5: through any college doors anytime soon. But otherwise, those are

1113
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 5: my very limited express comments on Mario christaball in the

1114
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 5: Oregon season, in the organ future, and a potential Miami

1115
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 5: higher You will have to tune in to a YouTube

1116
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 5: stream if and when something happens, and of course that

1117
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 5: bonus podcast goes to subscribers at verbalers dot com very quickly.

1118
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: Dan four other games that we do need to discuss here.

1119
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: We had Utah State Big Big was wrong about this one,

1120
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: so was I over the San Diego State Aztecs forty

1121
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 2: six to thirteen. A huge game for Logan Bonner and

1122
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 2: Brandon Bowling. So this has been a really successful year

1123
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: for Utah State and Blake Anderson, kudos to him. We

1124
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: had Louisiana sending Billy Napier out on a high note.

1125
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: They win twenty four to sixteen over app State to

1126
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: win ran all over them, Yeah, to win the Sun

1127
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: Belt we had Northern Illinois jumping out to a seventeen

1128
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: to nil halftime lead. They had this one at arm's

1129
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: length pretty much the whole game. Northern Illinois with forty

1130
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 2: minutes of possession in knocking off Kent State forty one

1131
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 2: to twenty three over Kent State again, Rocky Lombardi roar

1132
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: conference champ. Nice story. And as we travel back in

1133
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: time to Friday again, it is UTSA winning a wild

1134
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: one forty nine to forty one over Western Kentucky over

1135
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: eleven hundred total yards in this one, Dan sincere McCormick,

1136
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: your boy from UTSA. I like them. Yeah, thirty six carries,

1137
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 2: two hundred and four yards and three touchdowns. On the

1138
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: flip side, we had our friend Bailey Zappi one last time,

1139
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: five seventy seven, four touchdowns, two interceptions. Two of those touchdowns,

1140
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 2: by the way, went to his fellow transfer Jared jaredf

1141
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: stern Saith and almost said Jared ten catches, one seventy

1142
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: nine and two touchdowns for him, So a ton of

1143
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: stats and he had a chance.

1144
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 5: Had Hi may I one last time? Maybe this will

1145
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 5: be the second to last time. Amazing story, Amazing performances

1146
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 5: all year, long for the Western Kentucky offense, and that

1147
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator I forget his name escapes me at the moment,

1148
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 5: I think.

1149
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: Heading to Texas Tech. Is that what I saw?

1150
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 5: Yes, I believe that's the word that Joey Maguire at

1151
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 5: Texas Tech has brought in the mastermind behind Western Kentucky

1152
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 5: really upping their offensive game.

1153
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: We shall see which direction that goes to Texas Tech.

1154
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 2: But I think a good hire. I like that move.

1155
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 2: I really do like that move. Dan, Yep. Before we

1156
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 2: let the fine people go, one final look back at

1157
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: that Big ten game, our Big ten Game of the week,

1158
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: of course, always presented by DraftKings Sportsbook, Dan, Depending where

1159
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: you looked in that game, we had a point spread

1160
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: about eleven and a half twelve and a half in game.

1161
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 2: If you grabbed it like I did stupidly, you could

1162
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 2: get it at seventeen and a half. Favorite Michigan Iowa

1163
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: getting those points. I'm looking. I'm looking on all the apps,

1164
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: DraftKings Sports Book wherever where can I find a good

1165
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 2: number here for Iowa? Iowa killed me? Dan, They killed me?

1166
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 5: Was it because you thought Iowa because you just wanted

1167
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 5: a value number? It was because you thought Iowa was

1168
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 5: going to turn it around in the second half. I

1169
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 5: have this, I do this heart. Was an Iowa win

1170
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 5: means Notre Dames in where were.

1171
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I was written for like hell

1172
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 2: for Iowa. But I do this thing where if an

1173
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 2: underdog or even a favorite, doesn't matter whoever gets the

1174
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 2: ball first, if that team scores right out of the shoot,

1175
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: it's going to affect the point spread one way or

1176
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 2: the other right, and so totally if you're looking at

1177
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: this game, and if you like Iowa as I did. Now,

1178
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: I didn't put any actual money on it pregame, but

1179
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: I liked Iowa plus the points because of you know,

1180
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 2: go back and listen to the pregame picks that we did, right,

1181
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: you know why I would take Iowa makes sense. But

1182
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: Michigan comes out, they score really quickly, long run by

1183
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 2: Blake Quorum. Suddenly the line pops. So I'm thinking, hey,

1184
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: I liked them at eleven, I liked him at twelve,

1185
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: I love them at seventeen and a half. This is

1186
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: speaking my language at that point. Yes, then I threw

1187
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 2: the money in. They lose by thirty nine, they lose

1188
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 2: by thirty nine. I turned this game off to see

1189
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 2: what was going down when Sam Hartman was losing it

1190
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 2: over in the weight game, and I came back and

1191
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: I was like, I clearly miss something because now they're

1192
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: losing by thirty nine and they were not getting that

1193
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: many points at last check, right, So look, listen, it

1194
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: did not work out for me. I hope it worked

1195
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,680
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Speaker 5: I think you should or anybody should. This is just

1210
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 5: a suggestion have an internal rule of if I'm going

1211
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 5: to live bet, especially if I'm going to take points

1212
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 5: and I'm going to need some sort of comeback to

1213
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 5: make this interesting, I think you have to visualize you

1214
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 5: enjoying that comeback, right like I think, or you like

1215
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 5: aligning yourself, like if North Carolina goes down twenty one

1216
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, it's whoever plus or it's

1217
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 5: whoever minus thirteen, I don't know whatever the number is.

1218
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 5: And you're like, well, look, I'm not positive North Carolina

1219
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 5: can come back, but I know the North Carolina offense

1220
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 5: can be fun, can be good. I know I'll get

1221
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 5: a ride out of this. I know I'll get Sam Howell,

1222
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 5: who is capable. But with Iowa, like to attach yourself

1223
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 5: to that ride. Even if they cover, You're not gonna

1224
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 5: have fun. You're not gonna have fun watching them like

1225
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 5: be offensive orthodonics.

1226
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 2: Against my sear. There's a quality of that. Yeah, that

1227
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 2: is basically just hurting yourself. I understand, But keep in

1228
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: mind I was rooting for Iowa to win. I need

1229
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 2: it as a notreed anything I needed Iowa.

1230
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 5: I understand that, But you've already aligned your emotional wellbeing

1231
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Speaker 5: with IOWA. Now your financial wellbeing. It's just a lot time.

1232
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Speaker 2: I mean, it was ten bucks. Let's be honest. It

1233
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: was ten bucks.

1234
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Speaker 5: I know, but that's on your way to an amazing,

1235
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 5: huge Italian sandwich.

1236
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: I know.

1237
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: Well, I finished at about sixty one percent this year

1238
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 2: in real money bets, and I feel pretty good about you.

1239
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: That's great. You beat me, by the way. In locks.

1240
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 2: We had an verballer out on our discard again which

1241
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 2: you can only get to through overballers dot com or Patreon,

1242
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 2: who charted all of our locks throughout the course of

1243
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 2: the year. Now, I was much more of the dave

1244
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 2: A Randa in this year podcasting relationship. I gave twenty

1245
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 2: five locks on the year you only gave thirteen.

1246
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 5: It's like one of those fake ads at the bottom

1247
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 5: of websites. He doesn't always give out his stock picks,

1248
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 5: but when he does, right.

1249
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 2: He was on Amazon early.

1250
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 4: No.

1251
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you were eight four and one. I was

1252
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 2: something like fifteen and ten. Both of us were good,

1253
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: but you were ten percentage points better. So congratulations, sub above. Yeah,

1254
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 2: sixty seven percent to my fifty seven percent. Are you

1255
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 2: good with the playoff?

1256
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 5: Like we haven't really given like you talked about the

1257
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 5: line you talked about you know that it's a big

1258
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 5: deal at Cincinnati's in which obviously, but are these the

1259
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 5: four teams that are going to make the most entertaining?

1260
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 5: Is this deserving? Are these the four best?

1261
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 4: Like?

1262
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 5: Do you have any big picture like I am especially excited,

1263
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 5: kind of ambivalent, Like, now that you've had a little

1264
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 5: bit of time during the show to digest the matchups

1265
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 5: and the process by which they came about, how do

1266
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 5: you feel?

1267
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 2: First off, we were both right, Yeah, Alabama is a

1268
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 2: fourteen point favorite. Now, oh well you it's already moved me.

1269
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 2: Alabama a fourteen point favorite at time of recording over

1270
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and Georgia exactly at seven and a half over Michigan.

1271
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 2: Makes sense, so we are both pretty close. I am

1272
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 2: thrilled for Cincinnati. I think they will equit themselves. Well,

1273
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 2: I would still be inclined to go Alabama minus whatever.

1274
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 2: There's just too much talent on that field. The Georgia

1275
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: Michigan game, to me is very interesting.

1276
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 4: Now.

1277
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: I happen to think that Georgia is going to run

1278
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 2: away with that one. And I feel that way because

1279
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: I think Georgia's defense is good enough to take away

1280
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 2: the one thing that Michigan does really well on offense,

1281
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 2: and that is run. Georgia's front seven is good enough

1282
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 2: to shut that down. And if Jim Harbaugh finds himself

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Speaker 2: in the situation of having to throw the ball forty

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01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: forty five times with Katee McNamara, I like my chances

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Speaker 2: as a Georgia Okay, so I'm probably on Georgia minus

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Speaker 2: whatever there. It is also not lost to me that

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Speaker 2: Georgia and Michigan also play sort of a similar style

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Speaker 2: of football. And we saw what happened when Georgia's offense

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01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 2: went up against a pretty good defense in Alabama. So

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01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 2: what's good for the Goose in this sense is also

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01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: good for the Gander. And I do believe that Michigan's

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01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 2: defense can cause some fits for Georgia's offense, so I

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01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 2: think that'll be a better game between the two. Ultimately,

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01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 2: Michigan's got to be in. I think Cincinnati has got

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01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 2: to be in. I understand that there's a logic behind

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Speaker 2: putting both Alabama and Georgia, and I get all that.

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01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: I'm glad they're not playing in the first round. The

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Speaker 2: fact that there are two SEC teams. Does know that

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01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 2: doesn't make it the most entertaining brand of playoffs, But right,

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Speaker 2: you know, by this metric that we've got now, looking

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01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 2: at team to strength, to schedule and whatnot, and certainly

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01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: by virtue of the other chaos around college football, I

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01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 2: understand the four and I'm at peace with it.

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Speaker 5: Are you okay with Georgia in I am? I know

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01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 5: that's a it sounds like a very silly question.

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Speaker 2: I am, But they've been the best team all year.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 5: They were the best team until their biggest game of

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01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 5: the year. Like, I know it's recentcy biased, but it's

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01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 5: a recent sport, right, You're supposed to get better or

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01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 5: worse of all of whatever. And I felt this about

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01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 5: Notre Dame last year. I'm gonna stay consistent with it.

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Speaker 5: I don't have a team I would put in over Georgia.

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01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 5: You know, well, speak with my chest. I can't say

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01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 5: put Notre Dame in over Georgia or put an Oklahoma

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01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 5: State team who wins that game. Like, I'm not going

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01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 5: to go to alternate and bend reality. But it's not

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01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 5: my favorite thing that Georgia is in this playoff. It's

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01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 5: not my favorite thing to have two SEC teams and

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Speaker 5: an American Conference team and a Big Ten team. I guess,

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01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 5: you know, if we're in a different universe which there

1322
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 5: is a bigger playoff, I'm more excited about some of

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01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 5: these matchups. I think Alabama Cincinnati is fascinating. I think

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01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 5: Georgia Michigan has its own degree of fascinating. But you

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01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 5: go to your conference championship game, a game you've known

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Speaker 5: was coming for essentially all year long, and make the

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01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 5: same mistakes that you did last year and lose that

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Speaker 5: down what thirty eight to seventeen At a certain point, Yeah, Like,

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01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,799
Speaker 5: I know what Georgia looks like against a good playoff

1330
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 5: team now, and it's not pretty. And now I'm gonna

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01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 5: have to potentially watch that as a rematch. What questions

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01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 5: were left unanswered by Alabama Georgia that the playoff needs

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 5: to help us understand? To me, it's none. To me,

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Speaker 5: it's absolutely none. And I will watch Georgia Alabama if

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01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 5: that's a matchup that happens. I will be fascinated by

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01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,839
Speaker 5: it because of for football reasons, but for big picture

1337
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 5: legacy and the health of this Like it's a rerun.

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01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 5: This wasn't a triple overtime one point game. This was

1339
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 5: a decisive Alabama win that And so if Georgia wins

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01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 5: this that game twenty eight to twenty four, what does

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01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 5: that mean? What does that tell us about the best

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01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,839
Speaker 5: team in college football? And how it's decided? Kind of nothing?

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01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 5: Kind of nothing? And so that's the bummer to me

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01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 5: that Georgia and it's I mean, two biggest games. Really,

1345
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 5: if you're gonna go buy spplus or whatever, you open

1346
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 5: the season, you don't score an offensive touchdown, you close

1347
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 5: the season getting drilled by Alabama, a rerun of what

1348
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Speaker 5: Georgia football has been in the modern era.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't get my juices flowing like I hope the

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01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 5: playoff somehow would. And it's a bummer because Georgia is

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01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 5: not worthy of a playoff spot if you go off

1353
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 5: of how they performed against a playoff team what eighteen

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01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 5: hours ago? Come on, come on, let's be honest with ourselves.

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Speaker 2: All right, well look we will have much more time

1356
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: to dissect all of this. We would encourage you all

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Speaker 2: We are super excited about it. We will be previewing

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Speaker 2: all the Bowl games. We do need a little bit

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01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 2: of time first to a see what the matchups are

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01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 2: and then be to read up on these matchups. Now,

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Speaker 2: Bull Confidence Pool is fun because all you got to

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Speaker 2: we'll keep all of that stuff as important context. But

1366
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Speaker 2: we're picking winners. We're ranking games in order of certainty,

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Speaker 2: and it's a ton of fun. Get a chance to

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Speaker 2: It's Matt Black signed RG three. His star is rising,

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Speaker 2: in the media space. So go out there, put your

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Speaker 2: name in the in the contest. Yeah, I agree, that's

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Speaker 2: all I have.

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Speaker 5: Tyler Tyler, Okay, you start calling me Daniel, ty You

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Speaker 5: gotta be able to take it.

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Speaker 2: For that guy over there, I'm a good friend, Daniel

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Speaker 2: Rubinstein for myself, ty Hildebret will be back. Yeah pretty soon.

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Speaker 2: Still going three days a week. Stop buy on Wednesday.

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