1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: You know, I've had time to prepare, not even just 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: this past four months, ever since that two thousand seventeen season, 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: So from like January on, I've been prepared to hang 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: it up. That would absolutely kill me to go out 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: there and play and not be able to be held accountable. 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: And like especially offensive line, if I start getting worked 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: and like the quarterbacks getting killed, that's terrible. Running the 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: football is important. Welcome into the lounge. Uh, it's a 9 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: bit of a sad lounge kind of this week because 10 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: marcial Lyonda decided to retire and uh that that hurts 11 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: on multiple levels. A because the Ravens off pensive line 12 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: won't be as good and B because I really like Marshall. Uh, 13 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: just a good guy and uh you know for his 14 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: it's funny. He always, his entire career, was the anti 15 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: media guy. He he loved giving us a hard time. 16 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: You didn't he didn't walk into the locker room when 17 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,279 Speaker 1: there's no other reporters in there because you were afraid 18 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: Marshall might yell yeah, you don't want to be on 19 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: the other end of that. Now it changed, it's it 20 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: started to change this year, well I think this year. Yeah, 21 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: his last year, so the previous twelve Yeah, yeah, he wasn't. 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: He was never seeking out interviews. He was never seeking 23 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: out interviews. But during his retirement press conference today, he 24 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: joked that he's done more media than he did basically 25 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: in the entire twelve first twelve years of his career. Yeah, yeah, 26 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: but it was It was funny, though. You go into 27 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: the locker room, you're looking for somebody else, you know, 28 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: you're looking to an interview. I'd be tiptoe in there. 29 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: I'd be looking, hey, man, it's Marshall. Marshall in there. 30 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: Yet first I looked at Marshall's all right, he's not 31 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: in here. I'm good, I'm good. If he was in there, 32 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: get the reporters that allowed in here exactly. I would 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: tell well, sometimes you would take you would pick your 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: head in, and then he would You would lock eyes 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: with Marshall. Bake, Carol, what hell are you doing here? Speaking? Yeah? 36 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: I was, I'm awesome. Um, but none of that today, 37 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: None of that today. Marsha Yonda was gracious enough, after 38 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: doing all of his other interviews, to sit down for 39 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: the pod to share some stories. So, uh, we'll jump 40 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: right into that interview with future Hall of Famer you 41 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: like that future future ring of honor all that. That's right, 42 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: Marshall yonda congratulations once again. I know him about the 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: person to say that to you today. But we gotta 44 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: we gotta start with with the most important thing here, 45 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: and and that is you look like a different man, 46 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: no doubt. But I've been getting after it. Seriously. You've 47 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: lost forty five pounds. I'm like two and yeah I 48 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: was like three ten the way ends, but the day 49 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: before the Titans game, so I think make ways more 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: than you now. I wouldn't go that far replacement. He 51 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: now put me in the right guard. You could be 52 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: the spokesperson for weight watchers. I feel like, yeah, you 53 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: never know. But still like at the end of the day, 54 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: all that stuff, it's the want to though. I mean, 55 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: no matter what die you do or what exercise, you 56 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: gonna have the want to number one, Like I've had 57 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: the want to for a very long time, just because 58 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: you know, I've been big my entire life, and it's 59 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: like I've been waiting a long time to lose the way. 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: Most people are like, oh, they don't like the are 61 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: they you know, it's just been flipped in their minds. 62 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: So for me, I've been ready to get after the weight. 63 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: Have you had to like eat a ton of the 64 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: course of your Yeah. So I would weigh myself like 65 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: every two days, three at the max. Like I would 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: wait to weigh myself. I would weave myself at least 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: every day every other day, and if I waited three days, 68 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: I would look because I was always worried about being 69 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: too low or too light. So like if I was 70 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: down two or three okay, then I would increase my 71 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 1: calories the next the next meal, or even the next 72 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: day to maintain that. Yeah. So that was like a 73 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: constant like discipline battle of always being enough. So that's 74 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: why I like, you know, when I had a chance 75 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: to to go down, I've been, like I said, I've 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: been waiting and excited for it. That's really interesting. Uh 77 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: So we have obviously have to ask you some of 78 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: the most important questions, even though you've been answering them 79 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: all day here. Um, And I think the thing that 80 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: struck me when it was made official yesterday was that 81 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: I was, like, of all the guys that I would 82 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: ever envision to play to the very end til they 83 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: the game was saying you're completely done, it would be 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: you because you love the game more than anybody I've 85 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: ever known, right, and so I just thought you would 86 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: play until they said so for the for our listeners, 87 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: why yeah, yeah, And I've got that question a lie. 88 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: You know, I just just did an interview and they're like, 89 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: you're playing great. You know, we have a really good team. 90 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: You're we're the one seed. We won four teen games. 91 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: But the why is because the wear and tear is 92 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: still there, you know, just like like stand White uh 93 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: came up to me after my speech and congratulated me. 94 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I played thirteen years too, so I 95 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: didn't have one surgery in thirteen years. Like, wow, I've 96 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: had eight in thirteen years. So that's that the wear 97 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: and tear. And so you want to know the why. 98 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: It's not because I gosh, yes, I would love to 99 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: play this falling like the competitive drive is still there. 100 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: But I have been hurt a good amount through my career. Now, 101 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: I've battled through a lot and fought through years. On 102 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: I r are Super Bowl year, I played with a 103 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: torn rotator cuff in my right shoulder, my first shoulder 104 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: or first shoulder injury of my career, and I tore 105 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: that week too, and literally played all year with the 106 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: pain through that. Obviously it was worth it, and we 107 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. But like grinding through those those 108 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: injuries and grinding through that rehab does drain you. And 109 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: after the two thousand sixteen seventeen season, had a shoulder 110 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: surgery in sixteen, had to play left guard half the 111 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: year and make it through. And then in seventeen week 112 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: two broke my ankle. And then at the end of 113 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: that year, I tore my shoulder my other shoulder lifting weights. 114 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: So it was like all of a sudden, I had 115 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: three two shoulder surgeries and an ankle surgery, and like 116 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: a year so ever since then, I I was put 117 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: on notice, you know, by my heart and the way 118 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, and listening to your body saying, hey, you're 119 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: getting hurt too much. Now, No, I don't want to 120 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: be getting banged up too much where I can't spend 121 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: my time with my kids and my family and be 122 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: health because what's it all for if you don't have 123 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: your health. If you don't have your health, you don't 124 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: have anything right, like to spend time with my family 125 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: and my kids and and all that stuff. So I 126 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: didn't want to keep pushing because I felt like I 127 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: had two really good years where I stayed healthy and 128 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm happy with that, and yes, I 129 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: would love to play again, but the risk of getting 130 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: injured again outweighed because every single play you're at risk 131 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: of having a catastrophic injury and you're done for the year. Well, 132 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: what's to say I wouldn't have a neck injury or 133 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: a back injury and it happens so right, you know, 134 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean pit a Frian Chase year. I 135 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: mean this is these are real people that like have 136 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: these really bad injuries. So at the end of the day, 137 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: I just the uh, like, the risk of injury outweighed 138 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: me to to hang it up. And and then guys 139 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: are like, well, you're playing so well when you hang 140 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: it up, And it's like I also wanted to do 141 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: that too. That was a goal of mine. My entire 142 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: career was like, I wanted to play at a high 143 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: level the entire time. I did not want to fade 144 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: away and at the end of my career saying, oh, yeah, 145 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: he really lost this step, but he still gets it done. 146 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: But you know he's just just just hanging in there. 147 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: It's like that's not me. I wanted to like I 148 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: wanted to be out of playing at a high level. 149 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: I still wanted to be held accountable, Like we can 150 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: put the block on you. We don't want to like 151 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: have to worry about taking care of you. We want 152 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: to like run the play behind you. Still, like I 153 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: still have that that sense of ownership and an accountability 154 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: like put it on me. Still I want that. That's 155 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: why I play so like that was also where I 156 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: hope I wanted to end playing it out on a 157 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: high note. And obviously it just wasn't me. Lamar and 158 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: the whole team has a big reason why we all 159 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: did well. Like the entire offensive line had a great year. 160 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: Why do you think that is right? Because of the 161 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: entire team and the entire everybody had you know what 162 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: I mean, like if they all complimented each other, so 163 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: I understand it wasn't just me. You know. Well, it's 164 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: interesting because there's kind of two ways to look at it. 165 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: You brought out the point of you kind of with 166 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: that as much as you love the game that you 167 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: would just play until the very bitter end until they 168 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: drag you off the field. The other way of looking 169 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: at it, and I kind of thinking from disrespected and 170 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: as I hear you explain it, it it makes sense to me. 171 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: I've always said you're like the ultimate team guy team 172 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: first team. First, that your attitude was like you almost 173 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: have too much respect for the game to put yourself 174 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: out there and to be to be a bomb like that. Yeah, 175 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: because I know, but but but at some point you 176 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: would be more years if you keep if you keep 177 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: pushing and you keep like and you get another injury 178 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: where all of a sudden, you know, being really good 179 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: and then dropping off a cliff is a lot closer 180 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: than people think, you know what I mean, if playing 181 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: at a really high level and then not being productive. 182 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: And I've seen it in one year where this guy 183 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: is dominant and then one year something happens and they 184 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: literally like tank and you know, considerably, And it's like, 185 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: I agree, that would absolutely kill me to go out 186 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: there and play and not be able to be held accountable, 187 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: and like especially offensive line, if I start getting worked 188 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: and like the quarterbacks getting killed, that's terrible, Like like 189 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: you know, like that's the tough part about our jobs, 190 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: Like we get beat and somebody else gets to get 191 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: killed because of it. You do, you'd rather have that 192 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: help and you're having yourself. But like so, I did 193 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: not want to be ever be a risk. I want 194 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: to be an asset. I want to be relied on. 195 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: I want to be the guy that's accountable that you 196 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: know what. Yeah, we all get beat, there's no question, 197 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: but the next play you're gonna get my best and 198 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: over the course of the game, you're gonna get consistency 199 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: out of me. And like I said, that's that was 200 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: one of my long term goals of my career. Is 201 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: when I got older, I wanted to not drop off 202 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: as much as I dropped off something. There's no question 203 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: you get old. But I'm saying still at playing at 204 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: a level. You guys don't see it obviously, but I'm 205 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: saying I know because I know the super you know 206 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: details of what was your peak. Two thousan fourteen was 207 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: probably my best year, so you feel like it was 208 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: you dipped even since then. Yeah, but I mean not 209 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: not a ton though. No, I mean I feel like 210 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm still playing at a above average, above a really 211 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: good level. I mean that level is definitely I mean 212 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: it can be you know however you perceive it. But anyways, 213 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm still playing well and I'm that's why 214 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to. That's that was the plan for sure. 215 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, people are like, how could you walk away? Now? 216 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: It's like I've also had eight surgeries and had the 217 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: ship beat on me too, So it's like, you know, 218 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: you have to understand like when to say when to 219 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, if I was standing white, 220 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: I'd play another year. There's no question I'd play another 221 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: year if I didn't have a surgery, not one or like, 222 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm definitely like Eric Weddle has his 223 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: decision too, but like he just had his first surgery 224 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: after a thirteen year right, and it was a minor 225 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: surgery and it was it was it was a minor 226 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: nie scope. So it's like, you know, some guys are 227 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: very very very lucky. I've had to grind through a 228 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: lot of rehab. He didn't even mention year, how many 229 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: times have you broken your fingers a ton? I'm wearing 230 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: a band aid because I was down tune of fishing 231 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: in Mexico and I like, and I got a blister 232 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: on my hang hand from fishing. So you know, the 233 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: rigorous life of retirement, this is what you're gonna have 234 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: to deal with, exact I wonder how much how much 235 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: better do you think you would have been if you 236 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: didn't have all the injuries And it sounds like half 237 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: the time you're playing it was I know exactly. So 238 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: just think if I didn't have that, Yeah, it would 239 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: have been crazy. But you go down that rabbit hole 240 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: whords that you don't know where like you could speculate 241 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: for I'm still just at the end of the day, gosh, 242 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm happy and fortunate. Like all that grinding through, there 243 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: was always a light at the end of the tunnel, 244 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: and I got like, um, I was rewarded for that, 245 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: for that sacrifice, you know, Like the first year I 246 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: played through an entire injury, we won the Super Bowl 247 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: that year. I would have crushed me being away from that, 248 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, and I still got to contribute. It could 249 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: still get it done because it was my right shoulder, 250 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: and you gotta have your gonna have your inside shoulder 251 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: good and you can get it done pretty good. But 252 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: if it's here, but if you get if you play 253 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: the right side of the line, you gotta have your 254 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: left shoulder. If you play the left side of the line, 255 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: you gotta have your right shoulder. So which is why 256 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: or sixteen in sixteen, I tore it my left so 257 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: then I went to the other side because you got 258 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: to have that inside hand to stop the inside move. 259 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: Because guard where you give up all your sacks. Is 260 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: if you get beat on on an inside move and 261 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: you don't have your inside hand, you get beat inside 262 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: a guard, there's nowhere else for the quarterback to go. 263 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: He gets beat in the a gap and he's running 264 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: straight at him up the field. There's nowhere for him 265 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: to go. If you get beat outside, the quarterback has 266 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: a chance to step up. So having your inside hand 267 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: is like your fail safe. You have to have it, 268 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: have to. So yeah, that's a little Yeah. This all 269 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: leads me to think, because you know, you even said it, 270 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: the passion is still there for sure. So what do 271 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: you think? And I know it's impossible to say, but 272 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: when you go and sit down to watch the Ravens 273 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: games first game week one of this season, how are 274 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: you gonna feel? Yeah, I mean, obviously I'm gonna feel like, um, 275 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: I'll be missing it like crazy. I assume, you know, 276 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what my emotions are gonna be and 277 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: how it's gonna be without football, because it's been my 278 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: entire life, my whole life, right, So it's like I'm 279 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: just gonna take it. I'm sure I'm gonna miss it, 280 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be some mixed feelings at that point 281 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: as far as I'm gonna want to be back out 282 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: there obviously just the competitor I am. But you know 283 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: the reality is that that you know, that ship will 284 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: have sailed, and I'll definitely I'll be able to I'll 285 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: be able to be okay, and I'll actually like watching 286 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: The only time I watched Ravens games as if I 287 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: was hurt, you know, like in live. So it'll actually 288 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: be good to me for me to watch now because 289 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: I'll just think, well, this could be way worse. I 290 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: could be hurt with a broken leg and watching the team, 291 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: and that was miserable watching when you were hurt, like 292 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: I got, you know, for a while there, I like 293 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't watch some of the games, Like my family 294 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: would watch him in one room and I'd be in 295 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: my chair in the other room because like it painfully 296 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: hurt me to watch the team because like I cared 297 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: that much and wanted to be out there. This is 298 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: what I do, and these dang injuries like it, it 299 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: can pile up on you. So I'll just think back 300 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: to that and think, well, that's this is gonna be 301 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: way better dealing with it when I when I've had 302 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: an injury. So you know, you always look on the 303 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: bright side, and that's what that's hopefully how I approach it. 304 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: You can be eating the glacamole in the case. Actually, 305 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: all right, well that's why you might it'll be the 306 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: day cheat day. Yeah, it's when you talk about like 307 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: how you'll fear watching games, something that I was struck 308 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: by today and listening to you. Sometimes when a player retires, 309 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: you feel like in three months, we'll see how they feel. 310 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: I don't have any feeling that you're like when you 311 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: made the decision, it seems to me like it's it's done. 312 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: You knew and and you it was almost like a 313 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: little bit of a relief because like you kind of 314 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: reached the finish line and you knew that. Yeah, And 315 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I've had time to prepare, 316 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: not even just this past four months, ever since that 317 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen season, So from like januaryen on, I've 318 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: been prepared to hang it up if I got injured 319 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: or like if I've made it long enough. I was 320 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: still on a short leash of my career, Like, I'm 321 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: at the tail end. If I stay healthy, I got 322 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: one or two more years that's in even if I 323 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: stay completely healthy. Now, at that point, coming in season, 324 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: I've been hurt so much. I didn't even know if 325 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: I was gonna make it a whole year. And there 326 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: was I definitely, Uh, it was a little doubtful that 327 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna make it because those two years prior 328 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: to that have been hurt bad in sixt in seventeen, 329 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: So I was like, am I gonna be old enough 330 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: and good enough durable enough to make it through a 331 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: sixteen game season? Again, I didn't know, and by the 332 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: previous experience, I was doubtful. So my mind has been 333 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: on retirement for the last you know, over two years. 334 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: So that's why I like, yes, Like, I'm completely content. 335 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm I get to do it my way, 336 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, like and obviously you know you know all this. 337 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: You know you wanna hanging up when you're still playing, 338 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: Well that's important to me, and and uh and yeah 339 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: and the wear and tear. So but yeah, I'm definitely 340 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: content with my decision. And I took a ton of 341 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: time thinking about it hard, like January February, like these 342 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: last two months, like I really gave it some thought 343 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: and just wanted to make sure in my heart, you know, 344 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: every day that I was thinking, like am I making 345 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: the right decision? How is how's my heart feeling? And 346 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: I was dominated by I'm I'm happy and I'm not 347 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: worth It's not worth the risk to me now to 348 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: risk another injury. That's that was what dominated my my 349 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: thinking was I just I'm not risking tearing another shoulder. 350 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: I've already had two shoulder surgeries on my one right arm, 351 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, so that's you know, that's you know that 352 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: could wear and tear. And I'm getting older too. Obviously 353 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: it compounds on you fast, for sure. But you're the 354 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: first guy that's retired because he's you know old Quo 355 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: Air quotes. He's younger than me by the way you 356 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: feel old today, five months younger than me. But but 357 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: NFL years are like dogs. When I saw that, I 358 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: was like, Marshall's younger than you, just like because I 359 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: don't know if it's because you kind of like, you know, 360 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: look up to players and idolize guys and like, you know, 361 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: and you're like, they just seem older than you. You know. Well, 362 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: but I mean when you're in like in our workforce 363 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: and our job, like when you are like an eight 364 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: year plus vet, you are like, I feel like you're older. 365 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It is they'll be just 366 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: because like you know, guys are playing ten plus years. 367 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: There's there's not very many. I don't what the percentages, 368 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: but it's super low. So it's just it's just one 369 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: of those deals where perception of like you're old and 370 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: you are still playing, you know, playing a young man's game. 371 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: So that's definitely what it is. But you're still thirty five. 372 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tie now. I don't know, I'm still a 373 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: young man in real world but not not not NFL years. 374 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: So I only hit you with some kind of like 375 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they're not quicker questions because they're large in scale. 376 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 1: But really what I want to get to after these 377 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: questions is telling some stories because they're a great storyteller. Um. 378 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: But before we get to that, just what was what 379 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: was the most joy you ever had playing the game? Oh? Man, 380 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: that's a tough one. I would I mean, I would say, 381 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: like the easy the answer that comes to my mind 382 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: is like my entire my entire career, like here, I 383 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: feel grateful to be drafted by the Ravens that have 384 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: this experience, like my entire career. You could have been 385 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: drafted somewhere else where. You don't play in the playoffs 386 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: for ten years and you retire, you don't play in 387 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: the playoffs for twelve years, and you know, so I 388 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: mean my entire you know time with the Ravens. I 389 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: don't know how many years we were in the playoffs, 390 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: but way well more than half my time we're in 391 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs and relevant. You know, it's a winning culture here. 392 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: So being a part of that winning culture here in 393 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: my entire time, I'm grateful for that. You can just 394 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: stop right there. But like if we go like single stories, 395 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, the Super Bowl run, you know obviously that year, 396 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: um and uh gosh, there's a ton of them. You know, 397 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: there's you know, the adversity you know, coming back from 398 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: my knee injury, you know, in two thousand and eight 399 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: and playing again, and we played well that year and 400 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: I got my job back and then we played, uh 401 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: we didn't make it the championship that year. We made 402 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: it to the divisional and lost in uh Indianapolis. So 403 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Two thousand and eight was the 404 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: year I got hurt. They made it the n C Championship. 405 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: But I came back that second year and rolled the bench. 406 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: That was my third year, but I'm saying, rolled the bench, 407 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 1: and then we uh got my job back. And then 408 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: we played New England in New England in the playoffs 409 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: and we roasted them. Like the first play of the 410 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: game was ray Rice for eighty five yards touchdown. We're 411 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: on the fifteen yard line, we get the ball and 412 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: then we run uh gosh, what was it called fifty gut? 413 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: It was an inside zone play and Vince will folks 414 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: in the middle with Matt Burke and me, and literally 415 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: Matt locks up with Vans and I run down and 416 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: slam vents and just get him off on one leg. 417 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: And that's the hardest thing to do, is just get 418 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: him turned a little bit. And and then I went 419 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: right up on the backer in Raye just and then 420 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: Mike got the backside cut off and like the first 421 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: play of the game in the playoffs is eighty five 422 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: yard touchdown run and I mean like right behind us, Like, 423 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: so I mean, that's what you. That's what you live for, 424 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you want the ball 425 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: ran behind you. You want the accountability of Like I 426 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: want to help you, know what I mean. I want 427 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: to be the pentapod. I want you to build the 428 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: game plan where running behind me. You know what I mean, 429 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: because I've seen times where they try to shelter guys 430 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: and cover up guys, you know what i mean. Like 431 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: I want to be the guy you run the ball behind. 432 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: So like that's just a scenario there where like you know, 433 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: running the football like that in a playoff game and 434 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: we got after him. I mean Junior say I was 435 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: in that game, was playing against Junior say Out, and 436 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: I was like a young buck in my third year 437 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm in the NFL playing against Junior 438 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: say Out. Let's go. I Like, I'm like, you know, 439 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just grateful for that opportunity and all that 440 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: like that comes with it of the game of meeting 441 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: people experience in that, like I said, going against those 442 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: older players that you watch growing up watching on TV 443 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: and then you're playing against him, it's like that's this 444 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: is this is awesome. A little SI note questions that 445 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: how many times did you tell a coach run it behind? Yeah, 446 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: it happened. You know, you try to you try to 447 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: not to do that because you want the offensive coordinator 448 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: to be locked in his mind and let him let 449 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: it the evan flow of the game come to him. 450 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: If people start picking at a coordinator, then he starts 451 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: like trying to please. No, you need to stay in 452 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: your your lane with your binoculars, run your game plan. 453 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: Because you start, you start deviating and and taking too much. 454 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: So I tried not to do that too much. But 455 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: it did happen once in your speech. Yeah, I mean 456 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: you were, You're on target. And then also you kind 457 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: of be like and it was just fun to run 458 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, no doubt, I know. And I had 459 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: to put in as many plugs as I could to 460 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: make you know, like I said, to remind people that, 461 00:20:54,560 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, running the football is important. Amball. No questions. 462 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: So we don't want to get some stories, uh from you, 463 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: because like Ryan said, you're a great storyteller. So one 464 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: to start with was how you ended up on the 465 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: Iowa football team. Yeah, we're going back to the beginning 466 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: on that one. Yeah, yeah, like the Juco stuff. Yeah, so, um, 467 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: that's a good story just because um Iowa did not 468 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: offer me. Like it was my second year of junior college. 469 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: I took uh I took you know, credits uh two 470 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: years of college in a year and a half so 471 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: I could graduate in uh IN at the end of 472 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: death set December, so I could be at a Division 473 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: one program in January. Well, I played well my second 474 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: year of Nayack and Iowa State had offered me a 475 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: scholarship like two weeks into my sophomore year. Well, it's like, hey, 476 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: at this point, you don't know you're playing in the NFL, Right, 477 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: You're at a junior college where, like I said, there's 478 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: a hundred forty guys that literally raised their hand and 479 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: said that I want to You know, the head coach 480 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: gets in there in my freshman year and says, who 481 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: wants to go to Division one? Who's here to make 482 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: it to Division one? Every single guy raises their hand. 483 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: We all want to go to Vision one. Right, I 484 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: was the only guy. I have a hundred and forty 485 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: guy is that made a Division one? Well, fast forward 486 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: to my sophomore year and Iowa State had offered me. 487 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to go to Iowa right because Iowa State 488 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: still a good program, but Iowa wanted me to walk on, 489 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: and at that time I didn't know that I was 490 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: gonna um play in the NFL. So it's like, you 491 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: gotta take the full right scholarship. This is a Division 492 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: one scholarship. Even though it's still Iowa State. There's still 493 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: a good program. They're not the offensive line university like 494 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: Iowa is. But like, I can't walk on when I'm 495 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: gonna turned down a D one scholarship. So we're up 496 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: in the dorm room in Mason City and I have 497 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: my call the Iowa State say hey, I'm gonna go. Uh, 498 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: we're gonna sign my letter, you know, on whatever, like 499 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: say Friday morning, and uh. And I called Iowa on Wednesday, 500 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, two days before, and I said, hey, I 501 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: understand you guys want me to walk on, but I 502 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: have a full right scholarship to to Iowa State. You 503 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: know I can't turn that down. And I said, I 504 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: want to be with you guys, but if you guys 505 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: can't offer me, I'm going to Iowa State. I have to. 506 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: So I said, you know, just you know, it's I 507 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: left a message. They didn't talk to me, just left 508 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: a message and left it at that, didn't hear nothing. Wednesday, 509 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: didn't hear nothing. Thursday, and my wife or my mom 510 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: and my sister came up to Mason City, made the drive. 511 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: We're gonna drive dioa state from Mason City, which is 512 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: a names. So we wake up Friday morning and bombs 513 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: like you know, she said it the night before, he said, 514 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: you gotta get excited, and I was excited. You know, 515 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: you're getting the Vision one scholarship. So we wake up 516 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: Friday morning and there's a voicemail from Reese Morrigan, the 517 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: guy that I thank in my speech. He was my 518 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: recruiter and my offensive line coach. He's retired now from 519 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: like four in the morning. Of course these coaches, you know, 520 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: they you know he's up at four in the morning. 521 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: And it can't be officially like he I listen to 522 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: the mess and he's like, Marshall, it's Reese Morrigan with 523 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: the Iowa Hawkeyes. I can't offer you or I'm we're 524 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: offering you. But it's not official. You can't tell anybody, 525 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: and it's not official, but don't go to Iowa State. 526 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: It's not official. You can't tell anybody, but don't go 527 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: to Iowa State. It's like we'll figure it out like 528 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: in the next half day or whatever, and we'll have 529 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: you down, but don't go to Iowa State and you 530 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: can't tell anybody it's not official. And it's like, well, 531 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: holy cow, you know what I mean. So you have 532 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: to tell Iowa State you're not coming, and then obviously 533 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: it's not official. So we you drive down there the 534 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: whole way, you know, back down to Iowa City. We 535 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: made the drive instead back Tiwa City, and I'm going 536 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: down there, and then I have doubts, like, well, they 537 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: could easily like this is not official, I could bank it. Yeah. 538 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: So like I signed it and everything was great, but 539 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: of course I I played a terrible move, Like my 540 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: mom and my sister are waiting for me and I 541 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: come back. After I I signed the letter, I'm like, oh, 542 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, they pulled the offer. They didn't didn't offer me. 543 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: You know, I messed with them. It was terrible, right, 544 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: terrible joke at that time, and I'm just like, oh, 545 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: you know, they wanted they tried to really get me 546 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: to walk on again. They thought where they would make 547 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: one final push to get me to walk on, and 548 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: they just didn't offer me, you know, I've shaking my 549 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: hands and I had a water bottle in my hand 550 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: and then I'm just like, I'm just kidding, walk guys, baby, 551 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, and like you know, it was it was awesome. 552 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: So so that was like that was the that was 553 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: that was you know, my initial uh you know, started 554 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: on the ascent going like that. It was like, you know, 555 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: when I got to Iowa, so and you get you 556 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: get drafted in the third round by the Ravens, and 557 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: you told a great story in your speech today about 558 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: your first padded practice at training kids. We're gonna actually 559 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: just roll the audio that one I will never forget. 560 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: My first day of training camp with pads. JO started 561 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: the season on p U P and I had finished 562 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: my last six games that I will playing left tackle 563 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: because of injury. I was a right tackle in college, 564 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: but I finished a left tackle, So of course the 565 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: logical thing would be to throw me in there a 566 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: left tackle with the ones on the first day pads, 567 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: going against Terrell Suggs. Right, it sounds like a great idea. 568 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: I wish I could tell you that I held my 569 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: own and I had an okay first day. Up until 570 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: that day in my career, I've never been put on 571 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: my back playing football. I'd watched it happened to a 572 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: lot of guys, but their thought in the back of 573 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: my mind, that will never happen to me, that's not happening. Well, 574 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: sis got me that day, my first day. All right, 575 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: so you get your first practice on your belt. You're 576 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: then how long did it take for you to realize, Okay, 577 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: you know what I act, we can make it in 578 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: the NFL. I would say, oh, I didn't know if 579 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: I was gonna be able to be consistent enough, but 580 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: I would say probably midway through my rookie year. Was 581 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: still midway through. I was still I was still fighting 582 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: day to day. I was literally in just a day 583 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: to day battle like and I still didn't have good days, 584 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, midway through my my my rookie year, but 585 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: definitely I had some consistent games by the end and 586 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: uh and I and by the end of my my, 587 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: uh my rookie year, I had felt that, like I belong, 588 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 1: I can be here, you know what I mean. Like 589 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: we played the Patriots on like Monday, it was either 590 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: Monday night or Sunday night football, and they were undefeated 591 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: that year. And we had a terrible year and we 592 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: had him beat in M ANDT Bank and that was 593 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: when we literally had him stopped on fourth down. We 594 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: could have called time or we they we just had 595 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: him stopped and we could have just kneeled on the 596 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: ball and won the game. But we called a time out. 597 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: Our defensive coordinate Rex round and called the time out, 598 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: so they got another shot at the fourth down. That's 599 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: when Barts got through the flag into this and we 600 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: end up losing that game. But like, we played a 601 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: heck of a game verse undefeated Patriots and they're playing 602 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: for everything, right and like I was going against Mike 603 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: Vrabel at right tackle and like, and I had a 604 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: really good game, and it was like, you know what, 605 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: I can do this, and like I can play I 606 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: I belong here, and like I said, so it was 607 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: a transition, but like I had, I did have a 608 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: rough training camp, though once I got away from left tackle, 609 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 1: it wasn't as bad. Tackle was not my position. I 610 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: was always a right sided player, so me just playing 611 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: over there. And then, like I said, I mean Sis 612 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: was in his prime. I mean he was Defensive Player 613 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: of the Year right then, So I mean literally I 614 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: just ran into a damn buzz saw. Oh man, and 615 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: like you want to talk about stripping your confidence, Like 616 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: my confidence was like this might be it, you know 617 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I I got drafted and like 618 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: some guys obviously get drafted in the first round and 619 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: they bust, you know, or they don't pan out, they 620 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: just don't transition well to the NFL. And I'm like, well, 621 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: I got a lot further than I thought I was 622 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: going to get in Nyack Injmer College, So like this 623 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: might be it is what it is. But that was 624 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: you know, that was day one and it it got better. 625 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: But there's I mean, there's a lot of humbling days 626 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: with those guys. You know, it's tough to they get 627 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: after you. You know, it's it's it's hyper competitive. So 628 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: let's flash forward to the Super Bowl. What is a 629 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: memory that stands out to you most from the Super Bowl? 630 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: I think of were you on the Were you part 631 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: of the conversation at the end of the game where 632 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: Flacco was like, hey, if he runs out there, tackle him. 633 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: Were you in that when that in that if he 634 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: runs out there? Was it was on the final kickoff? 635 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yes, yes, I was. Yeah, remember, And 636 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: I'm like and I'm like yeah, Joe, Like if he 637 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: runs by and we tackle him, we automatically lose. Like 638 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: I thought that was that was a ridiculous comment. I'm like, no, 639 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: we can't. We're gonna have to let watch you know, 640 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: that guy run by and we're gonna have to accept 641 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: the loss, like we're not gonna like you know, but 642 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: it was it was obviously just a crazy, like rash 643 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 1: comment where you know, what are we gonna do? You know, 644 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: it was funny because he was like I was joking. 645 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: I was like, you're not joking, joke exactly. So, but 646 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: just like after the game, just because like the way 647 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: that game had went, we had literally like kicked their butts, 648 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, the first half and like and then the 649 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: second half, we were ready to like blow them out. Jacoby, 650 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: I think to start the second of the third quarter, 651 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: he returned for a touchdown, so we're like, oh, the 652 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: routes on, we're gonna blow them out. And obviously the 653 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: lights went off and everybody knows that story. But we 654 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: literally like held on to the very last inch and 655 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: I mean and they're on the goal line for like 656 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: five or six plays, and I mean, not to throw 657 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: shade of Kyli Kaepernick, but like we got lucky, you 658 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean. We got lucky, So I mean 659 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: they should have won that game. So that whole anxiety 660 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: of like, oh god, we're gonna blow like a twenty 661 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: one point lead, because would rather just get I would 662 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: rather just get beat out right, then blow a lead 663 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean, Because when you 664 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: have when you've done everything right and you just got 665 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: to hang on and do things the right way and 666 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: continue to do that. But when you blow a lead 667 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: like that, that's the worst way to lose. Some people 668 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: are like, oh, would you rather blow leave? Would rather get, 669 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, just have them blow you out? As like 670 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: I'd rather be blown out from the jump than than 671 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: ruined squander that opportunity. Yeah, exactly. You know that they 672 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: were there, they were a better team, they're more prepared, 673 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: they showed up to play and and it's a done deal. 674 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: But you have to try, like and that's what going 675 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: to my mind. We can't blow this game. We can't 676 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: blow this game. So but then obviously to storm the 677 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: field and everybody's like I said, running around tackling people, 678 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: and you know, and your family's down there in the 679 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: Confetti's all over the field, my kids are. You know, 680 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: Graham's real young. He's the only one actually that could, 681 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: but he's messed around in the confetti, and I mean 682 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: it was it was just awesome, you know, and like 683 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: the parade then at the parade at the stadium, through 684 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: the whole city was unreal. Never seen so many people 685 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: like so we started in the middle of Baltimore and 686 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: then went through the city and even to try to 687 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: get down to the to the to the locker room 688 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: to start the parade, some guys had to have police 689 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: escort because every major higher eight, three, nine was just slammed. 690 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: And then when we get to the stadium after we've 691 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: went by, I don't know how many people, probably like 692 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: half a million people. I don't even know. It was ridiculous. 693 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: The whole entire stadium was full, and the field was full. 694 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean that was just cool, Like just you felt 695 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: the love and people that were, you know, super stoked, 696 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: and that was I mean, that was that was it 697 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: right there. I've never heard the story that you turned 698 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: yourself into a human ice block in the Denver and 699 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: a couple of those the pictures at the end of 700 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: that that two minute video they released yesterday is the Denver. 701 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: So if you watch that again, look at my face mask, 702 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: you can see the ice in there once you if 703 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: you'd notice it ice the face mask, and then like 704 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: when I'm shaking my head in the video, you can 705 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: see the ice. And then this is why I was 706 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: wearing a white jersey. But yeah, I always, you know, 707 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: I always use a squirt bottle with water and a 708 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: smelling salt before every series. Every every series, I crack 709 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: of smelling salt and I spray my face with water. 710 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm ready to rock, Like you have to. 711 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: You have to be right, and like if you want 712 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: to play in a high level for a really long time, 713 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: it's week after week, year after year. You have to 714 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: find little things that get you to give to give 715 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: you every advantage you can. And that gets me alert. 716 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: Like I you smell on a smelling salt, it will 717 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: clean you and just get your also get your sinus 718 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: is cleared up to breathe really heavy too. It's a 719 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: long series. So but that with the water Denver, we 720 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: went into overtime and they ran out of they ran 721 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: out of fuel heat on the fuel heaters, so it 722 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: was like cold cold and then so we didn't get 723 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: warmed up on the bench, so it was literally just 724 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 1: like once I would spray, it would stick in my 725 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 1: in my face mask. And then obviously the overspray just 726 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: started just building up after series after series. It was 727 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: a long game and overtime and literally finally, like the 728 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: Denver players like, ref, look what he's doing. He's cheating. 729 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: He's got ice all over and that's intentional. He's I can't, 730 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: I can't put my hands on it. And I'm like, Reff, 731 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just spraying my face with water. I 732 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: said it's ten, it's five blow zero, okay, like water 733 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: is gonna freeze, and the ref let it pass. But 734 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: like literally it was just like and the cool thing 735 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: was and I mean it didn't really matter that much, 736 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: but he could not like lock up here, there was 737 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: no let. Yeah, it was slipping off. So yeah, I 738 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: mean that was that was another awesome like experiencing game 739 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: and celebrating that locker room, because i mean, going in 740 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: that Denver game, nobody gave us a chance to win. 741 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: Came in like fours before and Baltimore and beat us 742 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: like thirty one to three, stomped us like a month 743 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: before that. So then we're gonna play them in a 744 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: playoff atmosphere where everything's on the line in their stadium, 745 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: and we go in there and beat them, and when 746 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: we should have. And I still say to this day, 747 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: we play them ten times. That year, they beat us 748 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: nine times. Guess what, you only got to beat him 749 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: one time, and we beat him one time out of 750 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: ten and the right scenario, right conditions, you know what 751 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean. Tory Smith, we like, was just roast and 752 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: making big plays, and Manning turned the ball over late, 753 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: and justin Tucker, you know, Tucker made some huge kicks. 754 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, that game was awesome because 755 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: we had nobody. Everybody wrote us off in that game. 756 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: And what I remember meet up to the Tennessee Ravens game, nobody, 757 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: there ain't nobody that that thought Tennessee was gonna win. 758 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: And they had everybody only only people from the Titans 759 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: and the coaching staff and the players. I thought they 760 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: had a chance. And then you hit a few big plays, 761 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, there's some doubt, and then you continue to 762 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: do what you do. And guess what, we believed from 763 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: the entire time. So we're gonna play this game no 764 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: matter what happens, and that's the great That's the reason 765 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: why football is awesome. Because anybody can beat anybody on Sunday, 766 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: you gotta earn it and prove it every single Sunday. 767 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: There's not what you did the week before, it doesn't matter, 768 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: it's you've got to do it and prove it again. 769 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: So that's what makes it great. And that's why. You know, 770 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: like I said, you know we beat him one time 771 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: out of tens that we should and that happened to 772 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: be that year, and you have to and when you 773 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, you figure out things have to 774 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: line up for you and get some breaks and things 775 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: happen your way. Stuff has to turn your way for 776 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: you to make it that far a win, and that 777 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: year we just had really good things going our way. 778 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: It's cool. One more thing that I'm curious about is 779 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: and when you broke your ankle, so to kind of 780 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: bring down the mood here, Um, you walked off the field, 781 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: did you know at that moment that it was bad? 782 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: I knew so. No, I didn't know the season ending. 783 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: I was thinking there was torn legments in there and 784 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: I was gonna I knew I was gonna miss games. 785 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: I could feel like I was gonna miss like three 786 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: or four games. But I'm already like compartmentalizing, like, okay, 787 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: I know I felt this before. I had actually tore 788 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: some legments in my ankle in two thousand twelve two 789 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: and I missed a game and then got better and 790 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: I played. But anyways, I'm like, all right, I'm gonna 791 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: miss probably two three games. But it doesn't feel broken. 792 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: It feels pretty bad. It doesn't feel broken. But by 793 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: the time I had got in the locker room and 794 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: it had time to swell and and like I had 795 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: time to like take my pads off, I could not 796 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: put an ounce of pressure on my toes. And that's 797 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: when I knew. I was like I was already, like 798 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: you know, already thinking doubts like it's once it's swelled 799 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: up that fast too, I'm my god, there's something wrong 800 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: and there, you know. Then then Dr Curl looked at 801 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: it for like, you know, and the longer they look 802 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: at it is sometimes uh better. But she literally took 803 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: like thirty seconds that I'm sorry, Marshall, you know this 804 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: is clear cut. It's you're you're done, you know, And 805 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: it's like you'd you'd want her to take five minutes 806 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: and let you down. It's literally like thirty seconds, like 807 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, and obviously she's you know, I love Dr 808 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: Curl and she's just like, you know, I'm sorry, Marshall. 809 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: This is you know, this is season ending. It's just like, oh, 810 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you want to talk about your whole world 811 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: and like you know, and about the course of like 812 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: any minutes. That's how fast life changes for US players, 813 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: you know. Because I thought it was done. I just 814 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: think it was crazy that you walked off the field. 815 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: I know I agree, but that to me that like 816 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean it was that was in that video because 817 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: it kind of sump to me that it did, because 818 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: you know what my entire career, if I was gonna 819 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: be able to fight through an injury and that is 820 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: part of the NFL, and that's part of the football, 821 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: I dang and I was gonna do it, and I 822 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: was gonna give it everything I had to try to 823 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: do that because you're not gonna, like I tell the 824 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: young players, you're not gonna play at a d percent 825 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: when you feel you'll be lucky if you play the 826 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: whole year at ninety you know what I mean. But 827 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: you're not gonna fly a wake up on Sunday and 828 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: be like, Wow, I just feel great because you just 829 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: played six days ago and you just got the ship 830 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: beat out of you six days ago. And compound that 831 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: for seventeen weeks and compound that into the playoffs, You're 832 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: not gonna feel great. So it's a grind. So I 833 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: I accept that, and I you know, and I get it. 834 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: But that was just like a scenario where I was 835 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: trying to push it to the max, like if I 836 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: could play, I'm going to. And obviously when they're season 837 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: anying like that, I had two of those. You know, 838 00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: my knee was in oh eight and then that was 839 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: in seventeen, so they're just that's just tough to swallow. Well, 840 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: and now you're you're getting out before the seventeen game season, right, Yeah, Yeah, 841 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm not Yeah, I'm not happy about that. Vote vote 842 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: no for that. We're fighting a losing battle on that. 843 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, how, like this ankle thing, Like, 844 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: how did you get yourself into work yourself into such 845 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: a froth mentally that you were so ready to rip 846 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: somebody's head off on a Sunday Like the ability to 847 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: flip the switch lea you've talked about, how did you 848 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 1: do that. We had some guys that did that, like 849 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: early on that I watched and do that. Um, Ray 850 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: Lewis did that. Jared Johnson did that. Um who else guys? Uh, 851 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: guys that were just and you watched you know, other 852 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: guys on the film. There's other ravens, but those two 853 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: just come to mind. And like Ray talked about, you 854 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: gotta play this game piste off no matter what. Like 855 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: if you literally go out there and you get in 856 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: the mindset of like you're angry, and you have to 857 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: play with that attitude no matter what. Because the game 858 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: is too long. There's the seventeen week season is too long, 859 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: and the physical demands they pile up on you and 860 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: for you to be like physical and get after it 861 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: and want to like be the aggressor every single Sunday, 862 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: I felt like and just for me personally, now everybody 863 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: does in different ways. I had to go there, you 864 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean for me to play at the 865 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: level I wanted to play. So if I didn't go there, 866 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: I I had been through it when I was a 867 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 1: younger player, where if I didn't get there, in my mind, 868 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: I didn't play well. So like I I had, I 869 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: had some games where like, you know, I just wasn't 870 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: feeling it and I didn't didn't really mentally lock in, 871 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, you know, I'm just kind 872 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: of going through the motions. I didn't play well and 873 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: I didn't play consistent when I got to that level, 874 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: and I approach it that way. I always played pretty 875 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: darn consistent on that mentality of like, you gotta play 876 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: piste off and I don't care if that's your mom 877 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: over there on Sunday Sunday. Guess what she's getting blocked 878 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: and is getting you know, you're getting after. I don't 879 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: care who it is, you know, I mean, I'd chew 880 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: a guy's leg off on Sunday if I have to win, 881 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it at all costs, no matter what 882 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: who's over there. We can talk after the game and 883 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: yuck it up and we're friends, but during the game, 884 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: it is on, and that competitiveness is that it's yeah, 885 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: and like I said that Ray did that. You know, 886 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: guys did that, and not all guys have to do that. 887 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: There's no question, there's there's way more ways to do it. 888 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: But that's what made me consistent. And you're always playing 889 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: that battle of Okay, what did I do that made 890 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: me play? Well? I want to duplicate that. I want 891 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: to do that over. Okay, Like I like these cleats, Bam, 892 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: I don't change my cleats for fifteen years, you know 893 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like because like you find stuff that 894 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: you don't that you can control and you don't have 895 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: to change, and you get in that groove. So I like, 896 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: I just trying to fine tune everything, you know, my 897 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: my you know, pregame stuff, my mental approach and just 898 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: getting locked in, you know what I mean, not worrying 899 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: about taking pictures before the game because I'm mentally locked 900 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: in and ready to play the game. And all that 901 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: stuff can come after the game, but right now the 902 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 1: number one focus and for you to play Wall for 903 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 1: a really long time, these little disciplines are very important, 904 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: very I'm not just talking playing you know to three years. Yeah, 905 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: go ahead, and you know, try that, but I'm saying 906 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: play a long time and be consistent, play at a 907 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: high level. It takes. It takes a lot of mental discipline. 908 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: And and yeah, yeah, well, I know you're gonna have 909 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: a lot of fun with your family in Iowa. And 910 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: you said you don't know what's next. But I'll tell you, 911 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the suit or what, but 912 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: you would make one hell of a head coach. Someday, 913 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 1: I'll throw some shade. You'd also make a good podcast, 914 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 1: even though I know you're probably gonna feel insulted by that. 915 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: You would never stoop to that level. Head coach. I'm 916 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: on it, seriously, you would make one hell of a 917 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: head kid. I mean yeah, I mean I appreciate that, 918 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: and you just don't. You don't know how much football, 919 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: uh is gonna what's you know. I'm gonna figure out 920 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: this fall how much I wanted my life, you know, 921 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: just because like it's like you know, eating breakfast in 922 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,479 Speaker 1: the morning. It's been part of my life, my entire life. 923 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna figure that out and sift through that 924 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: and just kind of see how it goes. It's just 925 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 1: the one thing I think about being a head coach. 926 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: It's just you. You definitely, uh, you give up a 927 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: lot of time with your family too, but you want 928 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: right now. That's that's like exactly what you want right now. 929 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: The idea of giving it up, I know, I know. 930 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: So so we'll we'll figure it out. Like I said, 931 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: I just Uh, try not to predetermine anything. Just keep 932 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: an open mind and figure it out. Honestly, it's been 933 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: a pleasure to watch you appreciate. Thank you so much. 934 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 1: All Right, we're really good stuff from Marshall. Um, he's 935 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: going to do great things post career. He's only thirty 936 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 1: five years young, just like me. He's an old man. 937 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: It is. It is a wild to see somebody who's 938 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: achieved so much at such a young age. And I 939 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: look at myself and I'm like, wow, what am I doing? 940 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: Are you going to retire? It's kind of like I 941 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: felt with Sean McVeigh, and there's other guys, you know, 942 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: it's like there, well, well we were doing the math. 943 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: You're not You're not older than every guy a team. 944 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: Sam Cook still has you buy a couple of years. 945 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: So Sam, so you got that hold out you want 946 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: sand until he's eighty years old exactly. Um. No, I 947 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: think it'll be interesting to see what he does. You know. 948 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: I think he's obviously pretty open with the fact that 949 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: he's going to take it day by day and find 950 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 1: out and go back to Iowa and let things kind 951 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: of figure themselves out on what's next. Um. But if 952 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 1: he wants to coach, he could coach. If he wants 953 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: to do broadcasting, he could do broadcasting. Um, there's network. 954 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: I can see that. Yeah, I mean he could do 955 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: Big ten network. He could come back here and do 956 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: Ravens games. Um, there's all sorts of things you know 957 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: that he could do if he wants to. If he 958 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: would want to coach. I could also see him wanting 959 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: to coach his kids teams and want to want to 960 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: do that. You know. I think he could go back 961 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: to his the farm life and and work on a 962 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: farm in the sense of, you know, like running a 963 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: farm out there. Yeah, a year ago when he signed 964 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: his contract, we had Marshall on the pod after begging 965 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: him to come on the pod for the previous three years. 966 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: Came on about this time a year ago and he 967 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: said that he said, I might just start a farm. 968 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 1: I like the farm. If I learned a lot from 969 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: the farm life and sends of work ethic, I might 970 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, I could see that. I think anything's 971 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: on the table. Um. But it is encouraging that he 972 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: does plan to come back for Ravens games in the falls, 973 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: so it's we'll be able to see him then. So really, 974 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: really excited for him. I mean, I think something It 975 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 1: is bittersweet because he's a great player and he's a 976 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: great asset to this entire organization. So for him to 977 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: retire is disappointing. But I'm also really happy for him because, 978 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: like I said, he is really content with this decision 979 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: and he knows this what he needs to do, and 980 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: like you gotta be happy for him and making a 981 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 1: decision and celebrate what he's been able to accomplish. So 982 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: as happens in the NFL, you immediately turned the page 983 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: to move on the next. So how do you replace Martial? 984 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really difficult, obviously. You know 985 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: we've talked a little bit about it before, but first 986 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: round offensive lineman does not seem how to reach, you know, 987 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: out of the picture at all on my mind. If 988 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: they're even were to take a guy twenty eight, I 989 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: know who that guy is. We'll say that for another podcast, 990 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: but it would not surprise me at all if they 991 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: were to use an early pick, first round pick on 992 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman this year. No, that gonna happen. Uh, 993 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: They're gonna. I think they're gonna sign a free agent. 994 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a veteran free agent something 995 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: to come in. It's a young offensive line, you know. 996 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Ronnie Stanley is still fairly young in his career. 997 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown next to him, young guy entering his third season. 998 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: You have a young center in Scurro or McCarry. Uh, 999 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: you know, left guard's Bradley Boseman. I think that they 1000 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: would it would benefit them to have a veteran guard 1001 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: come in there and uh kind of carry on some 1002 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: of what marshallana brought here. That's the bummer of the 1003 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: situation is whoever the Ravens bring in, they're not going 1004 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: to be as good as Marshall or probably even as 1005 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: as good as Marshall would have been. Yeah. Right, So 1006 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: it's like you're automatically you're gonna have to either invest. 1007 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: That's why I really don't like the idea of a 1008 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: first round pick. It's just and it's fine. I mean 1009 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: that that's maybe the smart thing to do, but it's 1010 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: such a bummer that like you use your first round 1011 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: pick and you're not even upgrading, you're getting worse at 1012 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: the position, but you're using a first round pick on it. 1013 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: It just sticks. It does. But also at the same time, 1014 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of an unfair like projection to put on 1015 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: the guy like, well, your first round picking you might 1016 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 1: be great, but you're not more Fano, so I know, 1017 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,439 Speaker 1: but it's just, I mean, it would be fair to say, 1018 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: like when they first come into I think I think 1019 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: that that they should if they if they have an 1020 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: opportunity to get a free agent who could be a 1021 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,479 Speaker 1: plug and play starter shore or trade for somebody. Yeah, 1022 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: any of those options. If they can get a veteran, 1023 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm fine with that, but I'm just that hasn't 1024 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: happened yet. Obviously, you know, free agencies next week, so 1025 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: that could change in the next seven days. But uh, 1026 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: at this point, I would not rule out an early 1027 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: offensive Linbing. Yeah. The other option is Ben Powers, who 1028 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: they drafted in the fourth round last year out of Oklahoma. 1029 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: And you know, cem Ben Powers walk up on stage 1030 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: to take the big group photo of everybody. I couldn't 1031 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: help but look at him and say, is this the 1032 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: next Fianda? I mean Yanda marsh Lando was the third 1033 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: round pick out of Iowa. Ben Power's fourth round pick 1034 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma. You got these Midwest guys like I 1035 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: was honestly was looking at him, I was like, he's 1036 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 1: about he's about Yanda size, you know, I mean who 1037 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: Ben Powers isn't a guy who you look at and 1038 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,240 Speaker 1: you're like physically wow, Like, but neither is Marsha Yanda. 1039 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 1: You know, he made the most of his tools. I'm 1040 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: sure Ben took a lot of notes from watching Marshall 1041 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: last year. Why not. The Ravens have done a really 1042 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: good job at developing offensive lineman. Nobody thought Bradley Bozen 1043 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: was gonna be as good as he wasn't left guard 1044 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 1: last year a fifth round pick. Yes, Matt Scura. Another 1045 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,720 Speaker 1: example who's played really well at center before his injury. 1046 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: Wait was Bosman? Fifth round of six round? I just 1047 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: don't want to get that wrong. Bozeman was a sixth 1048 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 1: round Okay, yeah, I got tis anyway, Um, but yeah, 1049 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean you can go through the list and the 1050 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: Ravens have had late round guys who have gone on 1051 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 1: to be really good offensive lineman. Ryan Jensen was a 1052 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 1: sixth round pick at the biggest center, Conte Wagner fifth. 1053 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: Wagner was a fifth round pick. So they've had a 1054 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: lot of success with these guys developing them along the 1055 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: offensive line and everyone being all worried about who's gonna 1056 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: take over that position. So so uh, I think that 1057 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens are going to do a good job of 1058 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: developing and trying to put someone in that position. Um. 1059 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,919 Speaker 1: But it's it's gonna be it's gonna be tough losen, 1060 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 1: no question, no question, no question. Uh. And then the 1061 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,399 Speaker 1: other question before we go that I want to talk 1062 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: about is when does Martianna win or if uh, does 1063 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 1: Marciana get in the Pro Football Hall of Fame? In 1064 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: your opinion, I think you will get into the Hall 1065 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: of Fame. I don't really doubt that. I think a 1066 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: first ballot offensive lineman as a as a guard is 1067 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: a difficult thing to do. Um, and so you have 1068 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: to look at it, and I think it will be. 1069 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: I don't know within eight years. Let's say took Will 1070 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: Shields nine years, who I think was a twelve year 1071 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: pro bowler, Uh, nine years after he retired, Yeah, you 1072 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: got in. Uh. Alan Fanica so doesn't got any yet. 1073 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 1: Has Se has not gotten in? He had one more 1074 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, one more All Pro year, all to had 1075 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: a Suita Bowl, just like Marshall, very similar resume. Alan 1076 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 1: Fantic is not in, But I agree with you. I 1077 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: think Marsha Leana will get in. What I what I 1078 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: always say when debating Baseball Hall of Fame football Hall 1079 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,439 Speaker 1: of any of these is were they among the very 1080 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: best or the best of their generation at their position 1081 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 1: without a doubt? There's no question. Was that without a doubt. 1082 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 1: So if you're the best guard in the NFL for 1083 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: the basically the entire time you played pretty much, I 1084 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 1: probably for probably for ten years in the NFL, Marshall 1085 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: was the best or second best, third best. Yeah, he 1086 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: was in the top three for ten years. You deserve 1087 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: to be in the Hall of Fame, right and and 1088 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: I just when you look at the basically you can 1089 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: only this is kind of objective. But when you look 1090 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: at the response to his retirement from media, who was 1091 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,760 Speaker 1: ultimately going to vote on this, well, and his opponents, 1092 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,800 Speaker 1: the sense is this guy's a Hall of Famer, this 1093 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: guy's a Hall of famer, this guy's a Hall of 1094 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 1: fam teammates, opponents, media, everyone's saying that. So that the 1095 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: ground swell is already underway. Yes, I would agree with 1096 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: that anyway. Thank you for listening. 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