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Speaker 1: Of course, if you have a franchise quarterback, well it's

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Speaker 1: not just about winning regular season games, but winning postseason games.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, the Cardinals certainly feel they have a

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Speaker 1: has been all off season long. Also, we'll discuss the

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Speaker 1: depth behind Murray, you know, just in case that's needed.

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Speaker 1: But hopefully knots knock on wood. It's Cardinals Cover two

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Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with

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Speaker 1: Craig Griga Lew and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is

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Speaker 1: Slash podcasts. Murray rolls to the right, throw your side

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Speaker 1: of Pitts caught, He's into the ends after the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. So we always talk

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Speaker 1: The game starts to slow down. There's less thinking, more reacting,

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Speaker 1: the league. And I think MJ we saw that with

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just look at his completion percentage, you know,

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Speaker 1: think they're really excited with their offensive line and some

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Speaker 1: We always kind of tease our colleague Bertrand Berry on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals certainly believe that they have a great quarterback in

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Speaker 1: in aing I just I mean to me, the timing

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Speaker 1: because of rondel more speed and then aj Green's route running.

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Speaker 1: But for the most part, though, they've had a ton

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Speaker 1: of reps before they even step into training camp, let

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Speaker 1: alone preseason games and the regular season. I think they

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Speaker 1: will go a long way. And it's a trust factor.

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Speaker 1: I gotta trust you, yes, and I think that comes

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Speaker 1: with sharing time on the field and maybe even a

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Speaker 1: little bit off the field. And look, Burt Gang, there

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Speaker 1: is a lot to like about Kyler Murray. And now

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Speaker 1: all we're doing is literally nitpicking what is what is

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Speaker 1: separating him and this offense to going from good to great,

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Speaker 1: great to outstanding to where this team is perennial playoff contenders.

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Speaker 1: Because you look at the overall numbers you brought it up,

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Speaker 1: sixty seven percent completion percentage of more than thirty nine

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Speaker 1: hundred yards, twenty six touchdowns, and then you look at

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Speaker 1: his rushing totals eight nineteen a team best, eleven touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: average better than six yards a carry, all great numbers,

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Speaker 1: and it puts him at the top or at least

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Speaker 1: amongst the I guess you'd say the middle of the

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Speaker 1: pack when it comes to passing yards, passing touchdowns, and

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Speaker 1: completion percentage. But it's the rushing numbers that really elevate

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Speaker 1: his status to where a lot of people believe he

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Speaker 1: can be a top ten quarterback in the NFL. Well,

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Speaker 1: to me, he's one of the most dynamic quarterbacks out there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Josh Allen, I think you look

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Speaker 1: at his size and he likes to run. He's physical,

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Speaker 1: he'll get that first down for you. Obviously, Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: in the open fields dynamic, But to me with Kyler

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Speaker 1: with that four three three speed, and I think Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson's probably similar. He's got more experience, he's been in

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Speaker 1: the postseason, but from my dynamic standpoint, I'd put him

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Speaker 1: up there in the top two or three. Now, go

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Speaker 1: back to the first year, forty eight sacks, I want

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Speaker 1: to say twenty nine one around him correct correct, three

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Speaker 1: hundred nine yards down to twenty seven sacks, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and seven six shares. So they cut that in half

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Speaker 1: and give credit to Kyler Murray, but also the offensive

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Speaker 1: line because they take pride in him not getting hit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that is something that even Kyler admitted to after

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Speaker 1: his first season, that look, this is I need to

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Speaker 1: do a better job. And you can't run around in

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Speaker 1: circles and certainly turn your back to the defense because

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Speaker 1: that certainly it puts the offensive line in a vulnerable position,

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Speaker 1: especially on the tackles where they don't know where the

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Speaker 1: quarterback is. And I do think having Kyler Murray and

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Speaker 1: this offensive line pretty much consistent for the most part

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Speaker 1: since he's been here, especially on the left side with

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Speaker 1: DJ Humphries and Justin Pugh, that they are more aware

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Speaker 1: of what Kyler Murray can do wants to do. And

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Speaker 1: then you have that clock in your head you're blocking

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Speaker 1: for you know, a second and a half, two full seconds,

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Speaker 1: then maybe you try to kind of feel where Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray might be. But you've always brought up that if

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Speaker 1: you have Rodney Hudson and you bring in a Brian

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Speaker 1: Winters or it's Justin Murray on the right guard, and

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Speaker 1: you form that backwards or upside down, you and instead

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Speaker 1: of Kyle Murray drifting or going backwards, he now can

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Speaker 1: step up in the pocket. And that's further we'll buy

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Speaker 1: him some time and give Kyler credit. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: the first year he was kind of just sitting and

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Speaker 1: when he was going to take a hit. You know,

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Speaker 1: I know he doesn't want to run as much as

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Speaker 1: he has in a pass and he was on pace

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Speaker 1: for four thousand yards passing in a thousand rushing. But

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Speaker 1: he doesn't take a lot of big hits. Now we

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Speaker 1: look at you know, the shoulder the Dunlop played, sounds

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Speaker 1: like maybe he heard in the Miami game. The hamstring

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Speaker 1: is just going to be something where he's when he

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Speaker 1: takes off, that's going to happen. You would think it

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Speaker 1: would happen more in cold weather. But he doesn't take

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Speaker 1: those big hits. And really, when I look at his numbers,

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Speaker 1: I mean he had five hundred and forty four yards

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Speaker 1: rushing his first year eight nineteen, and then you look

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Speaker 1: at it, I mean four four I think it was

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Speaker 1: like close to eleven hundred yards yards before contact. So again,

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Speaker 1: I wanted him to be a weapon. But if you

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Speaker 1: sit in the pocket like he wants to do, then

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like pick your poison when you

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Speaker 1: defend Kyler Murray. Yeah, and you have to kind of

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Speaker 1: make that choice early on once that ball is snapped,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes if you're good enough to react as a

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Speaker 1: quarterback and catch that defense off guard. Well, I remember

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys gament, just how we walked into at the

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Speaker 1: touchdown there, and you know, go back to a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago when he made that nice run and

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Speaker 1: then I think Gonzalez came in and they beat the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals that Yeah, that was the game game winner. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they and they yeah. So I mean there's there's

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Speaker 1: times when I he kind of high steps in a

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Speaker 1: little bit. It kind of puts the ball out. But

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Speaker 1: you don't want to take that away from him, No,

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Speaker 1: And I don't. I don't want to see it taken away.

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Speaker 1: Just maybe I wouldn't say less of it, just not

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Speaker 1: as much as we sought to be the starting points

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Speaker 1: of the offense. He shouldn't have to run the football

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Speaker 1: to open up the rest of the passing game. To me,

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Speaker 1: it's it's if you're if you want to run to

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Speaker 1: open up the pass, which we've you have to, then

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Speaker 1: let that be Chase Edmonds, James Connor or someone else,

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Speaker 1: and don't put Kyler Murray in unnecessarily harmful positions or

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Speaker 1: in Harm's way, if you will, that's better better way

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Speaker 1: of saying it, because the less hits that he sustains,

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Speaker 1: the more apt he's available all season long. And when

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Speaker 1: I say available, yeah, he started all thirty two games

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Speaker 1: he's played, but the last couple of weeks of the

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Speaker 1: regular season, especially last year, you know, Week seventeen at

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Speaker 1: the Rams. If he's healthy, the Cardinals win that ball game.

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Speaker 1: I think it was very winnable at the time, and

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Speaker 1: that injury happened early on in that contest, and then

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Speaker 1: obviously the Cardinals win that And it's an entirely different

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Speaker 1: narrative in the off season. Now he's gonna have to

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Speaker 1: stay healthy for seventeen games. The bar is always being

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Speaker 1: raised on Kyler Murray, but he's he has the bar

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Speaker 1: raised himself, and there is no more anyone can say

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Speaker 1: or do to put undue expectations on Murray's shoulders, because

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Speaker 1: he's going to do that himself. Listen, when he gets

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Speaker 1: in the open field, he reminds me of Devin Hester.

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Speaker 1: That's how dynamic. Now we know that he can out

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Speaker 1: run sometimes linebackers and defensive ends because of the angles

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Speaker 1: heat date take, but he's breaking ankles when it comes

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Speaker 1: to DB's trying to because they don't know which he

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Speaker 1: can turn on a dime. They're trying to size him up,

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Speaker 1: and at that point you're just trying to maybe force

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Speaker 1: him to go out of bounce. When he's in the

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Speaker 1: open field. He is dynamic. It is fun to watch

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Speaker 1: and Dave passion Ron wilfully listening to them pass on

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Speaker 1: the play call and then wolf with the reaction on

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. It is a lot of

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Speaker 1: points on Kyle the Murray before we kind of focus

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Speaker 1: on Colt McCoy and Chris Traveler here as we talk

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Speaker 1: all things quarterback on this edition Cardinals Cover two presented

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Speaker 1: by Hunday, partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Speaking of Ron Wolflee,

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Speaker 1: he has been very vocal, as have others. Rob Frederickson,

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Speaker 1: who we do the show with on Cardinal talk about

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Speaker 1: wanting to see Kyle the Murray under center. Where do

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Speaker 1: you stand on That's I think According to Pro Football Reference,

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Speaker 1: Murray was under center about sixteen percent of all snaps

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Speaker 1: that are over a thousand snaps, and sixteen percent of

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Speaker 1: those he was under center. Now, some of that bird

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Speaker 1: gang is kneel downs and some of that is spiking

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Speaker 1: the football. So those are other ways you can have

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Speaker 1: under center that you know, there's a reason why you

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Speaker 1: want to be under center for spiking, that's to make

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Speaker 1: sure that not enough time goes off the clock. And

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Speaker 1: then when you're kneeling down at the end of the

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Speaker 1: half or end of the regular or the end of

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Speaker 1: the second half, obviously things looking very good for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: But having Murray under center a little bit more, does

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Speaker 1: that or doesn't it open up things a little bit

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Speaker 1: for him? The way I look at that, Craig is

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Speaker 1: this offense is predicated on the RPO, the zone reads

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Speaker 1: the pistol. You know, maybe every once in a while,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think they should go out of their

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Speaker 1: way to pease the outside. Well he does, He's not

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Speaker 1: under center as much. I mean, they say Lamar Jackson's

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Speaker 1: going to be under center, and Kingsbury was on with

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Speaker 1: a Schreeger and Sean mcvah. He said I'll believe it

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Speaker 1: when I see it, So I don't think they're going

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Speaker 1: to change their approach there. And when you get into

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Speaker 1: you know, the third and twos and the fourth and ones,

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Speaker 1: you would like to have him under center to hand

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Speaker 1: off to Connor or chase Edmons. But also you know,

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Speaker 1: Kyler is a guy that either he can the RPO

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Speaker 1: is really you can hand it off to the running back,

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Speaker 1: you can run, or you can pass it. So there's

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Speaker 1: there's been times where he puts the ball in the

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Speaker 1: belly of the running back and he looks to the

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Speaker 1: right and he's wide open to run to the cone.

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Speaker 1: So again I think on short yard of situation, that's

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Speaker 1: where I would lean on under center because you're right

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Speaker 1: there and you just hand the ball versus four yards

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Speaker 1: behind a line of scrimmage where something could happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do they say the quickest point or the quickest distance,

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Speaker 1: the shortest distance between two points? As I get my

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Speaker 1: analogy correct here, the shortest distance between two points is

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Speaker 1: a straight line. Well, you can go even further. The

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Speaker 1: quickest way to get there is starting at a shorter distance. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you back up four or five yards in the shotgun

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you're making it more difficult.

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Speaker 1: That's what I don't like about the shotgun in short

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Speaker 1: yarded situations where you're trying to sneak it or you're

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Speaker 1: trying to just get two or three yards, Yes, just

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Speaker 1: pound it between the tackles. Don't try to get cute.

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Speaker 1: And I think that is a lesson that has been learned. Now.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to say under center in the offseason,

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Speaker 1: as the Baltimore Ravens have done. It's another thing to

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Speaker 1: actually execute it and really go out and show everyone

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Speaker 1: you're doing it. And it wouldn't be a surprise if

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Speaker 1: the Ravens adjust, or it's one of the things where

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Speaker 1: maybe the Cardinals follow suit. Maybe you do see a

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Speaker 1: lot of it in one in Week two just to

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Speaker 1: have it on film, and then you don't use it

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Speaker 1: hardly ever the rest of the season. I guess we

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Speaker 1: should ask Rodney Hudson what he prefers, because they are

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Speaker 1: I mean, they had a huge offensive line. I mean

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Speaker 1: they're like six five six six six seven across the board,

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Speaker 1: and there were times that you know, with Josh Jacobs,

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Speaker 1: they would have Derek Carr under center. Now you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of centers. You know, as long as a snap,

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Speaker 1: you know, the snap goes back. I got no concerns

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Speaker 1: with Hudson there, but he may want to line up

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Speaker 1: on the fourth and one and just have somebody under center.

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Speaker 1: Let's just explode off the ball. All five guys explode.

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Speaker 1: So again, it's going to be come down to down

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Speaker 1: and distance and then a play call. But if you've

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Speaker 1: got a guy like Hudson up there where he can

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Speaker 1: maul people, that can change a little bit of philosophy

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Speaker 1: with the play call. All right, let's continue here on

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and yes, Bird Gang, I'm knocking on wood

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Speaker 1: here that we do not need to see a backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback in twenty twenty one. The question is who is

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Speaker 1: that number two quarterback who will be least on the

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Speaker 1: depth chart, the backup to Kyle Murray. Kingsbury this offseason

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Speaker 1: asked about that with respects to quote McCoy being signed

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Speaker 1: in the offseason, and Kingsbury said, there's gonna be competition,

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Speaker 1: And I guess, to a certain extent, I understand, Yet

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Speaker 1: you want to put the best guy out there, and

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Speaker 1: whether that's McCoy or Straveler. But I'll say this, if

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Speaker 1: it's not cult McCoy as the backup, I'll be more surprised, shocked,

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Speaker 1: really than I was a year ago when Streveler beat

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Speaker 1: out Brett Hunley to be the backup. And then we

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Speaker 1: get into that whole conversation in Week seventeen postgame, and

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Speaker 1: every wanted to know, well, what's wrong with Brett Hunley?

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Speaker 1: Well follow along, and he's been inactive all season long,

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Speaker 1: so that's page has been turned. But I was a

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Speaker 1: fan of the signing first and foremost just to get

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Speaker 1: someone in that room with some experience. I didn't have

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Speaker 1: Culte McCoy in mind, or anyone in particular. I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to see a veteran that can come in and

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Speaker 1: be a sounding board, offers some advices, offers some criticism

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Speaker 1: if you will, to Kyler Murray in that room. And

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Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals got someone who, in the words

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Speaker 1: of Kingsbury quote, we couldn't have gotten a better guy

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Speaker 1: to come in and really set an example end quote.

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Speaker 1: And if that's all Colt McCoy does in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: I'm perfectly satisfied with that signing. Yeah, the only thing

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Speaker 1: Kyler doesn't like he went to Texas. That's true. Now,

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Speaker 1: Colt McCoy, I want to say, I believe he was

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Speaker 1: on a podcast and I sent you the quotes when

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Speaker 1: it happened. He said, quote, I've only got to spend

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Speaker 1: three weeks with Kyler and he's been great. He's so talent.

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Speaker 1: There are things that he does that I can't do.

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Speaker 1: Not many guys can. He's experienced a ton of success

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Speaker 1: in his career. He went on to say, he's taught

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Speaker 1: me a lot about the offense. I asked a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions. We've taken into the field. We've worked on

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Speaker 1: some things that I'm excited about this year. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of talent around us, and we just need to

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Speaker 1: be consistent turnover free football unless the rest happened. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was a recent radio interview in Austin, Texas, and

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Speaker 1: I do think you know, it's the only time we've

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Speaker 1: heard from Culte. McCoy hasn't actually had an introrectory press conference.

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Speaker 1: I believe the day he flew into sign was following

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Speaker 1: the birth of his third or fourth kids, so it

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Speaker 1: was a busy day for him. And then we just

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Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to hook up with Coulton McCoy,

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Speaker 1: but I do like the fact that not only is

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Speaker 1: he here, but there is I think already a respect

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Speaker 1: factor for Kyler Murray. And maybe Colt McCoy doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the numbers, as you know, someone who's entering his twelfth season.

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Speaker 1: He's predominantly been mostly a backup in his career. But

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the going to Texas and Kyler Murray first

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Speaker 1: at A and M and then Oklahoma, but that area,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is very familiar with Colton McCoy and what

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Speaker 1: he did in high school and college. And when you're

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Speaker 1: growing up in that area, you put that quarterback on

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Speaker 1: a pedestal and that's where Kyler Murray wants to be.

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Speaker 1: And I think he certainly surpassed what Coulton McCoy did

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Speaker 1: at the high school in college level, and now all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's trying to put himself on a

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Speaker 1: pedestal at the NFL level. But that respect factor you

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Speaker 1: bring in someone that maybe they haven't met. I don't

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Speaker 1: know their relationship before coming to the Cardinals, but it's

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Speaker 1: knowing who cult McCoy is as a quarterback and not

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Speaker 1: just a quarterback, but a Texas quarterback. And what I

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Speaker 1: like about Coulton McCoy, he knows his role. He's not

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Speaker 1: coming in here to, you know, take Kyler's job. That's

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Speaker 1: not happening. I'm sure all that was discussed. And if

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Speaker 1: he does have to play, he's got experience, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't want the offense to change a ton, but

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Speaker 1: the fact that he has NFL experience, he can recognize

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Speaker 1: defenses and you know that's something that Kyler and him

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Speaker 1: are going to do when you're watching film session. They

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Speaker 1: cannot do what they did last year with Chris Treveler.

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Speaker 1: That's that can't happen again. No, you have to have

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Speaker 1: a capable backup who can win you a game or

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Speaker 1: two or for whatever reason. Starter goes down for three

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Speaker 1: to four weeks. You're comfortable for that number two guy

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Speaker 1: to come in and spell you for a month if

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Speaker 1: you need to, and actually maybe even win you a

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Speaker 1: couple of ball games so you're not falling off the

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Speaker 1: playoff race when the starter returns. That's what I wanted

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Speaker 1: to see, And based off of Week seventeen at Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: that cannot be Chris Straveler. It's a little unfair to

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Speaker 1: him because it's the first impression. Well, the first impression

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Speaker 1: for me is Okay, you need to go find someone else,

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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals did and Colton McCoy. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: think Cliff said that on one of these podcasts where

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Speaker 1: you know, he had he had no training camp basically,

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Speaker 1: or he had training camp and no preseason games. And

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Speaker 1: I thought they when they brought him in it was

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Speaker 1: more of a Tyson Hill thing and we got a

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Speaker 1: chance to see him early in the season, maybe Week

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Speaker 1: one where they took Kyler Murray off the field and

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Speaker 1: that never happened again, just for the record, And so

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Speaker 1: I just like the fact that you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: with Cam Turner now kind of more hands on, you

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Speaker 1: got Coulton McCoy in there, you got Burko. I just

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Speaker 1: like that room now because everyone's pulling the same or open.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if they keep two quarterbacks on the act

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Speaker 1: of roster. Oh, I think they. I think two is

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Speaker 1: the number. And then what do you do if you

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Speaker 1: try to get a third quarterback on the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: But I would think Streveler just you got to give

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Speaker 1: him a chance and hopefully he doesn't have to play

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Speaker 1: right away. But they kind of intrigue with that low

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Speaker 1: salary unless somebody gets released. But I think they'll go

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Speaker 1: in with two quarterbacks. It gives you another roster spot

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Speaker 1: if you want to go, have you at a certain position,

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Speaker 1: and then they can slide Streveler. Like I said, there's

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Speaker 1: still going to be the sixteen man practice squad, and

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to load up at certain positions.

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Speaker 1: I just think quarterback they'll just add one. If a

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Speaker 1: third quarterback is on the fifty three man roster at one,

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Speaker 1: I think that's more of a luxury than a necessity.

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Speaker 1: But if that does happen, MJ, I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: on record and saying that that to me is an

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Speaker 1: indication that's that number three quarterback. It's because they have

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Speaker 1: a package in place for Chris Streveler or whomever that

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill to come in and try to change things up.

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Speaker 1: But let's go back. We did see that early on.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Straveler was on the field the first three

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Speaker 1: games of the regular season and then we didn't see

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Speaker 1: him again until week eleven, and that was on special teams.

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Speaker 1: Because I think I don't believe Kyle the Murray likes

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Speaker 1: coming off the football field, and that's a signal to

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Speaker 1: the defense that well, we're gonna do something else. Even

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Speaker 1: if Murray is on the field, but he's lined up

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Speaker 1: as a wide receiver, I'd be very hesitant to do

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Speaker 1: that because the best way to gain the first down, score,

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Speaker 1: touchdown win a ball game is Kyle the Murray as

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Speaker 1: your quarterback. Well, you wonder you know, Jeff Rogers, we

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Speaker 1: know there's about five to eight guys, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking about the long snapper, punter, or holder, slash kicker.

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Speaker 1: He does he could cover special teams. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they talk about his speed. I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's four or four or four five.

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Speaker 1: But he could be a guy on the outside that's

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Speaker 1: covering kicks. But again, usually a backup is active on

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Speaker 1: game day to play on special teams. Here, you're going

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Speaker 1: a little bit deeper there. But you know, we'll see

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Speaker 1: how much he's involved into special teams when it comes

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Speaker 1: to camp. You know what, now that you mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: I didn't account for that. But as we've seen, you're

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Speaker 1: listed as a running back or a linebacker, but the

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Speaker 1: majority of your snaps are on special teams, to where

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Speaker 1: maybe Straddler is that punt protector. I mean, somebody's going

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Speaker 1: to replace Dennis Garden until he comes back. That's true.

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Speaker 1: And I think they're comfortable with Zeke Turner Tanner of Vallejo.

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Speaker 1: We know that, you know, some other guys, some of

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Speaker 1: these rookies that were in this class are going to

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Speaker 1: be on teams. Isaiah Simmons can be that guy going

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Speaker 1: down covering kicks. It's interesting wrinkle that you just tossed

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Speaker 1: out there that now it kind of has my mind spinning,

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Speaker 1: and maybe I got to go back and say, well,

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Speaker 1: if a third quarterback is on the fifty three man roster,

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Speaker 1: maybe there's a little asteret because it's not a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: it's more a special teams player. Because Straddler has done

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Speaker 1: something in the eye of Jeff Rogers to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I can be a part of special

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Speaker 1: teams and yeah, in an emergency, a real emergency, I

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Speaker 1: can go out and play quarterback. I mean he's a

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Speaker 1: football player. I mean, you know in the CFL didn't

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Speaker 1: come easy to him. Again, I think it's a luxury

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Speaker 1: addressed three quarterbacks on game day. Maybe maybe they can

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Speaker 1: change his number. He's just position player. You know, like

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Speaker 1: a tight end or something, but that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Everyone wants to play tight and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: has become a popular position because well, you know, no

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Speaker 1: need to go in with the Larry Fitzgerald route, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: the tight end position has become very popular this offseason.

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Speaker 1: As we continue here on Cardinals Cover Too, presented by

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Speaker 1: Hunday Proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, you brought up

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Speaker 1: Cam Turner, and it's a name that people have asked

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions about because he wears the hat

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Speaker 1: on the sideline and people are wondering who is Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray talking to. Last season, he was the assistant quarterbacks coach.

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Speaker 1: He was promoted this offseason to quarterbacks coach, replacing Tom Clements,

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Speaker 1: who has since we're hired now. Turner has been on

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Speaker 1: the staff for three seasons. But I think a lot

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Speaker 1: can be talked about as far as Cam Turner and

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Speaker 1: the relationship he has with Kyler Murray. In fact, Murray

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Speaker 1: believe it was your question asked about Cam turn and

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Speaker 1: Murray said, quote, me and Cam have a great relationship,

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Speaker 1: and quotes that is important. Especially a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: One you need someone on that sideline that you can

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Speaker 1: talk to, and it can't be Cliff Kingsbury because he

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Speaker 1: needs to have his eyes on everything else and not

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Speaker 1: divert his attention always to the offense. And I do

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Speaker 1: think you can't say enough about what Cam Turner means

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Speaker 1: in that room and Colt McCoy means in that room

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Speaker 1: as far as uplifting Kyler Murray as an NFL player,

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Speaker 1: not skill level, not skill set, but the leadership and

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Speaker 1: just realizing you're the face of the franchise. What you

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Speaker 1: do and what you say gets magnified a hundred times over,

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Speaker 1: so you have to be wary of when the cameras

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Speaker 1: are on you and what you say. And I think

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Speaker 1: those two individuals, Kyler Murray certainly respects and listens to.

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Speaker 1: I think Kingsbury has the right approach. You know clearly,

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Speaker 1: when Kyler comes off the field, you could just see

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Speaker 1: his facial expressions. Maybe overthrew a ball, they couldn't pick

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Speaker 1: up a first down, you know clearly, you know he

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Speaker 1: wants to move the chains. So Cliff doesn't go over

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Speaker 1: there right away, and then you let Kyler sit down.

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Speaker 1: You know you could see he's looking at you know

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Speaker 1: the score and everything else. And then finally Cam Turner

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Speaker 1: comes over and they'll start looking at the Microsoft pads

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Speaker 1: and then they'll then they'll have conversation, and then finally

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Speaker 1: Cliff will come over, maybe when the defense is on

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Speaker 1: second or third down. But I like Cliff's approach. The

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Speaker 1: last thing you want to do because he's if he

858
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: made a mistake or he missed an open receiver, you

859
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: don't want to remind him. Hey, just move on to

860
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Speaker 1: the next play. Don't don't don't get you know, don't

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00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: let him fester to something bigger. So I like the

862
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Speaker 1: approach when they allow him to be on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: But you're gonna see Cam Turner over there because they're

864
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what they wanted to do next

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Speaker 1: when they go on the field. And it's okay to

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Speaker 1: be frustrated as a quarterback or as a player. The

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Speaker 1: great ones get frustrated when things don't go right because

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Speaker 1: nothing goes right one hundred percent of the time, and

869
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Speaker 1: what your natural reaction is to show frustration. And it's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen yet, I think, and we got a lot

871
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: of calls on Cardinal talk about it that you know

872
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: the camera always found Kyle the Murray, and it was

873
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Speaker 1: always in situations where he was discussed up sets or

874
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: just wasn't in the game, just by stuff, reading facial

875
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: expressions and stuff, and it's like, you know, you're trying

876
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: to make You're trying to take one snapshot and all

877
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden kind of blow it up into this

878
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: large picture and kind of figure out exactly what Kyle

879
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,479
Speaker 1: the Murray was thinking or doing on that particular play

880
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: or situation. I think that you can't do that, but

881
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Speaker 1: I get it when you're watching it on television and

882
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: you see certain things and all of a sudden, it's like, well,

883
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: that's not good, or does that lead into something next series,

884
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: next quarter, next week. But I do believe that when

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Speaker 1: you have someone and it might not just be Cam Turner,

886
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Speaker 1: maybe it's maybe it's Kyle Murray Colt McCoy sitting together

887
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Speaker 1: with the Microsoft tablet and just discussing things. And now

888
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: you've got two guys wearing hats, Cam Turner and Colt

889
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: McCoy a flanking Kyla Murray trying to figure out, all right,

890
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: what can we do better on the next series. Usually

891
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: he sits at the end of the bench, so you

892
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: know Cam and Cole can be there. Yeah. Like I said,

893
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: it's what happens is if you turn the ball over

894
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: or you were sacked. Television cameras is are going to

895
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Speaker 1: commercial break. They have an isle on the sidelines, so

896
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: they're not going to miss anything. But you know, listen,

897
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: if he's upset, that's just don't let it carry over

898
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Speaker 1: to the next down or the next possession. Bottom line,

899
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Speaker 1: when you talk about quarterback, and obviously a lot of

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Speaker 1: this on Kyler Murray, I am certainly expecting big things,

901
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: as is Kyle Murray. I mean, no one wants to

902
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: win more than Kyler Murray. He is certainly not used

903
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: to ending his seasons without postseason on the docket, and

904
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Speaker 1: he hasn't had that. So we can be frustrated, we

905
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: can be disappointed, but there is no player more disappointed

906
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Speaker 1: at the end of a game or at the end

907
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: of a regular season that doesn't include the postseason than

908
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. So I do believe that as much as

909
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Speaker 1: we talked a year ago at this time about year

910
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Speaker 1: two and Pat Mahomes and everyone making that jump from

911
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: year one to year two, I like your analogist or

912
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Speaker 1: your comparison with what Josh Allen did in year three,

913
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Speaker 1: and I think, you know, we're always going to focus

914
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Speaker 1: on the quarterback position. But if you're the general manager

915
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Speaker 1: and Steve come as we began this show talking about

916
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Speaker 1: the quarterback's room and his confidence in those players, in

917
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Speaker 1: particular Kyle Murray, it's better to have a franchise quarterback

918
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Speaker 1: than searching for one. And for a while this team

919
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: was searching for a franchise QB. And I'll tell you

920
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Speaker 1: right now, I mean the way he's he's trending in

921
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Speaker 1: the right direction. Now again, he's gonna be judged on

922
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Speaker 1: wins and losses getting to the postseason, but the future

923
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: is bright at that position, and he's still young, he's

924
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Speaker 1: still learning the position. So clearly it was the right

925
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: decision moving on from Josh Rosen. Yeah, and we talk

926
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Speaker 1: about patients, and it's easy to do that here MJ.

927
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Speaker 1: In the offseason. It's difficult to preach patience patients when

928
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Speaker 1: we're you know, week six, week seven, and you're like,

929
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Speaker 1: let's let's let's go. You know, what are you waiting for?

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think, you know, week one against Tennessee,

931
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Speaker 1: right out of the gate, win or lose, there's gonna

932
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Speaker 1: be a lot of people figuring out, Okay, what does

933
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Speaker 1: this one game mean for the rest of the regular season. Well,

934
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Speaker 1: you know, I hope it doesn't derail the season. I

935
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: know beat Train was on that a couple a few

936
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Speaker 1: years ago when they lost it to Patriots without Tom

937
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: Brady and they had some linement out. But to me,

938
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Speaker 1: it's it's, yeah, she want to get off to a

939
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: good start, okay, but it's how you got to be consistent.

940
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: You gotta learn how to finish games. It's really what

941
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Speaker 1: you do at the end. But you want to have

942
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Speaker 1: enough wins to where you're jockeying for position. I mean,

943
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: let's be honest. Come back in Week two, you're playing

944
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Speaker 1: a really good Vikings team. A lot of people think

945
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: that that defense is going to be a lot better,

946
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Speaker 1: and that's where Mike Zimmer kind of makes his Hey,

947
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: they've had a four or five new players, including Patrick Peterson,

948
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: and they feel comfortable with our offense. They didn't tweak

949
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Speaker 1: with that a lot, but they think defensively, we know

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00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: the Titans are going to be physical, so you know,

951
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 1: you just don't want to get off to a slow start.

952
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: But if you lose the first game, you learn from

953
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: the mistakes. But their plan is to go in there

954
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Speaker 1: and get into a dog fight. Getting up for Week

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00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: one Week two should be easy, real easy for this

956
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Speaker 1: Cardinals team. Yeah, I mean again, there's seventeen games. They

957
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: know it. And last year they get off to a

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Speaker 1: two and oh start against division opponents, finished two and four,

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00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: and then there were five and two and six and three.

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00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: We know what happened at the end, so at some

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Speaker 1: point you got to move on. But you'll learn from that,

962
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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals certainly believe they have. In particular they

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Speaker 1: have with Kyle Murray leading the charge going into year three,

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Speaker 1: an important year for the Arizona Cardinals, looking to get

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Speaker 1: into the postseason for the first time in five seasons.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, let's put a lid on this

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Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday, proud partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our

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Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Almahundro for Mike Jarecki. I'm Greg rayel Loup.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.