1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 3: Er Toors, Jason Martin. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Tirec dot Com studios. 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Tirec dot com will help you get there and unmatched 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: election fast free shipping, free road, azerd protection and over 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: ten thousand recommended installers. Tirec dot Com the way tire 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: buying should be. Er Tors in our Fox Sports LA studios. 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: Jason Martin out in Nashville, jaymart. 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: What's going on, man? How you doing? Happy super Bowl? Eve? 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing alright. I'm doing alright. 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 4: Looks like ABC is getting themselves a nice little finish 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 4: tonight in the NBA. 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: It's been a lot of college basketball to watch. 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 4: There's a question I have at some point to ask 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 4: you about college basketball. 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: Before the end of the show. I know, obviously super 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Bowl was coming up. What'd you say? 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: I said, I know what the question is. It's not 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: the lead topic the day before the Super Bowl, but. 21 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 4: No, it's definitely not. We'll get We'll get to it 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 4: before the end of the program. But yeah, super Bowl 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 4: and an exciting one to me just because I could 24 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 4: see it going either way. And I think that you 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 4: have a lot of storylines and a lot of things 26 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: going into this game to sort of not really speculate about, 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 4: but just kind of I think it's really interesting to 28 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: think about what the storyline will be come Monday when 29 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 4: it comes to this Super Bowl in particular. 30 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 3: So a couple of things. 31 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: One from the college basketball perspective, we are told that 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 2: Matt Payn, head coach of the number two rank Purdue 33 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: boiler Makers. They took care of their rival Indiana tonight. 34 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: He is expected to actually join us this hour live 35 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: from West Lafayette. So we are efforting coach Painter and 36 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: a lot to late discuss with him. But we'll start 37 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: with football, Jason, and listen, you know, I mean, I 38 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: know that this game has been analyzed and reanalyzed and overanalyzed, 39 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: but we are now, you know, roughly, what about let 40 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: me do some quick math here about nineteen hours from kickoff. 41 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: Shit mentioned by the way, JMRT and I will be 42 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: on air at eleven pm Eastern Time tomorrow, following Arnie 43 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: Spanier and Chris Plank, so we will have plenty to 44 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: react to. But listen, my kind of first take of 45 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: this game, San Francisco is still considered a slight favorite 46 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: in Vegas, about a one one and a half point favorite, 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: depending on what sportsbook you're looking at. Over Under said 48 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: at forty seven and a half, so Vegas is expecting 49 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: a low scoring game. When I look at this game, Jason, 50 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: I think what you said is what stands out to 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: me is that there are times going into games, whether 52 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: it's a Super Bowl, conference championship, whatever, I have strong 53 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: opinion for how how things are going to go, and 54 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: I should mention, by the way, you know, sometimes you 55 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: get those wrong. I was very convinced I thought Baltimore 56 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: was going to take care of business against against Kansas 57 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: City and the AFC Championship game. I was wrong, but 58 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: I felt confident in that pick. I bring it up 59 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: to say, when I look at this game, I really 60 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: do think it could go either way. 61 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: You know, we'll make our picks in the final hour. 62 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: But bluntly, listen, I think Kansas City is winning in 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: a way that they really haven't won during this era. 64 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: That's with defense, with run game, with ball control, with 65 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: clock control, and I think you have a forty nine 66 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: ers team that bluntly, I think, if you really asked 67 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: even the guys in that locker room, and we did 68 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: ask Trent Williams in this time slot three weeks ago 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: after they beat the Packers. 70 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: I don't know that they've you know, played. 71 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: Their best football for probably you know, of the last 72 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: eight quarters they've played, I would say about five of them, 73 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: they really haven't played great football. So interesting game from 74 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: that perspective. You have a team that's winning at a 75 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: really high level in a way that they really never 76 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: have and a team that I would argue to San 77 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers. You take out that fourth quarter 78 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: against San Francisco, the second half against Detroit. Credit to 79 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: them for getting here. But I still think, as weird 80 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: as it sounds, their best football in the playoffs maybe 81 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: ahead of them. 82 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 4: Jason, Yeah, I think that's I mean, I think that's 83 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: very possible. My top storyline, I think is about the quarterbacks, 84 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: and it's the difference in what the headline could look 85 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: like Monday. It could be a star making night for 86 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: brock Party or a legacy defining night for Patrick Mahomes. 87 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: I think you have the opportunity here to really set 88 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: in stone, all right, this dude might be coming for 89 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 4: Brady's neck. When it comes for the greatest. 90 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Of all time. 91 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 4: No, no, yeah, I probably should have specified now considered 92 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 4: and there were two guys in a conversation. But if 93 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: but you also have that chance when it comes to party, 94 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: you have this opportunity where if perty goes out there 95 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 4: and lights the world on fire, I think, I just 96 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 4: I would be fascinated to hear how he is spoken 97 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: of on Monday, the way it goes up. 98 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: And down and will continue to I think for a 99 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: long time. But this is the kind of game that 100 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: if he shows up. 101 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: And shows out somehow and has a solid game, doesn't 102 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 4: turn the football over repeatedly, makes a couple of things happen. 103 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 4: Maybe this sets in stone a different kind of trajectory 104 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 4: for his narrative going forward. I think that's that's really interesting. 105 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: And Mahomes again, Mahomes at this point is just playing 106 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 4: against history. He's playing against you know, being. 107 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: Regarded as the greatest to ever do it. 108 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 4: He's got a ways to go, but I don't know 109 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: how many times you're gonna get Super Bowls, but you 110 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 4: got to cash. 111 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: Him in when you get there. And this is an 112 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: opportunity where. 113 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 4: Mahomes has to know he does have the defense right now, 114 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: he has the scheme from Spagnolo. 115 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: You mentioned the run game. 116 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 4: He's got it, and he's got young receivers and he's 117 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 4: got his guy in Travis Kelce. So this is when 118 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: he has to feel like, I've got to cash this 119 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: one in. I blew that one against against Tampa Bay. 120 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 4: Never had a chance in that game against their defense. 121 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: This defense is gonna come to prove something because they 122 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 4: got embarrassed by their own GM after the Lions game. 123 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 4: So I'd better be on my toes. But we know 124 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 4: how good he is. He knows how good he is. 125 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: So there's just there's a lot riding on this game 126 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 4: for quarterbacks. 127 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: So let's get into that because obviously, you know, it's 128 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: a team game, fifty three guys, coaching staff, whatever. But 129 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: obviously success and failure is often, you know, as the 130 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: old cliche goes, you know, the quarterback gets too much 131 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: success when you win and too much blame when you lose. 132 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: But let's jump in, and I do want to start 133 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: with brock Party because this guy remains a polarizing lightning rod. 134 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: You either love him or you hate him. And bluntly, 135 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: you know, I do think you know to be blunt 136 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: is that, frankly, he has given the haters some reasonable 137 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: It's weird actually, now that I talk it out, is 138 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: that you look at this guy in the playoffs this year, 139 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: the two games they've played sixty one percent completion percentage, 140 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: two touchdowns, one interception. But in the fourth quarter he's 141 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: been awesome and or he's been good enough to lead 142 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: two comeback wins to get victories. But if brock party 143 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: does win, let's start there. 144 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 3: What is the conversation in your opinion. 145 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: I know you can't really know, because we don't know 146 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: how the game's gonna unfold. In twenty four hours from now, 147 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: you and I are going to be in this same 148 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: time slot reacting to this exact question. But if they win, 149 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: if he gets that ring, if he is at least 150 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: in part responsible for that success, and I'm assuming we 151 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: don't get anything crazy like, you know, three picks sixes 152 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: or something like that, because frankly, that's not who Mahomes 153 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: has been at any point in his career, let alone 154 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: in these playoffs. If he plays a role to a 155 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: big role in the San Francisco forty nine ers winning 156 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl five years, four years, excuse me, after 157 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: losing to these same Kansas City Chiefs when they did 158 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: not have him and much to the same core of 159 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: roster and coaching staff is the same. 160 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: What do you think the conversation about brock pretty will be. 161 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 4: Humans are prideful and stubborn, especially those that happen. 162 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: To work in the industry we work in. 163 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: So I would be hesitant to say that the narrative 164 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: flips completely even if he has a great game, Like 165 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: you have to pry opinions from media people from their 166 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: cold dead hands, So they're going to find a way 167 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 4: to say, well, yeah, with that defense and with Christian 168 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 4: McCaffrey or whatever. But if he goes out there and 169 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: goes for let's just I don't know, two seventy five 170 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 4: and two touchdowns, get gets a first down or two 171 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 4: running the football, escaping trouble, and he doesn't make the 172 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 4: big mistake in the game, that's really what they need 173 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 4: him to do, because if you look at the way 174 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 4: that they are built, I expect if that stat line 175 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: is right, then McCaffrey's probably somewhere close to one twenty 176 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 4: one point thirty And then of course you add some 177 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 4: of some extra yardage that I'm sure he's caught the 178 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 4: football as well. I feel pretty confident about that Mahomes 179 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 4: if those are his stats. I'm not as sure if 180 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: Kansas City wins the game, because I just feel like 181 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 4: he usually needs to be more a focal point of 182 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 4: the offense in terms of the touchdown ratio in particular, 183 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 4: so I would. I don't know that it just shifts 184 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 4: dramatically based on one game, because those that want to 185 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 4: hate are going to continue to hate, because really, Rock 186 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 4: Perty's given you no reason to hate him. You just 187 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: don't like the fact that you didn't believe in this 188 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: thing and it's still going on, and so you're going 189 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 4: to continue to poke holes in it. But I think 190 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 4: the most fascinating part of this is this they went 191 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 4: with Perty and got rid of Garoppolo. Garoppolo was in 192 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 4: the last Super Bowl, and Party is in this one. 193 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: If Party wins, nobody's going to say they made the 194 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 4: wrong decision. That to me is one part about this 195 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 4: is can he make the play that Jimmy g could not? 196 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: Can he make the one throw in the game that 197 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: separates a winner from a loser. In that game, it 198 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: was one throw that he could not find Emmanuel Sanders 199 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: on wide open down the field. 200 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: If he hits that good chance, forty nine Ers win. 201 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 4: Then after that, Mahomes threw a pass to Tyreek Hill, 202 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: and of course he completed that pass, and you saw 203 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 4: how that Super Bowl ended right there. Late in the 204 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 4: fourth quarter, you mentioned that Brock hasn't been great in 205 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 4: this postseason particularly, but he's been stellar in the fourth quarter. 206 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: That's all that matters. 207 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 4: If you get to the end of sixty minutes and 208 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: your team has more points on the scoreboard. 209 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: Than they do. 210 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 4: I don't know that that's going to be the case, 211 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 4: but if my quarterback is playing his best in the 212 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 4: fourth quarter in crunch time, I like my odds. 213 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: If I'm a Niners fan, or if I'm Kyle Shanahan. 214 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 3: Let me ask you the opposite. 215 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: If things go really sideways, if it's twenty seven to three, 216 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: is the final score of the offense can't keep going? Like, 217 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: do you see any scenario where we come out of 218 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: that game where you and I are on air at 219 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: eleven pm Eastern time tomorrow and we just say, listen, 220 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: this was a great story. 221 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: It was fun. 222 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: He got you to this point, but you can't bring 223 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: him back, or or at the very least, you know, 224 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: if you can't bring him back as maybe you can 225 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: just based on everything else that you can't win with him, 226 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: that we've seen that he was so bad, and I'm 227 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: not you know, we're not rooting for it obviously, But 228 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: is there any scenario, like, if it goes really, really, 229 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: really bad, what do you expect that conversation to be about, 230 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: Brockberty to Wall. 231 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 4: Exactly what you would think it would be. I do 232 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: think that the knives will come out at that point. 233 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 4: It will be all right. You didn't have a quarterback 234 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: with Jimmy g. You had kind of a glorified game 235 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 4: manager in that game. You can get it done now 236 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: you got mister irrelevant in there. This has been great 237 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: and all, but if you want to win in this league, 238 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 4: then you got to have your Patrick Mahomes, your Josh 239 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 4: Allen blah blah blah blah blah. 240 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: It's the same thing. 241 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: I mean, when Dak loses, it's time to get rid 242 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 4: of Dak in Dallas every single time. Why would it 243 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: be different for the last pick in the draft, who's 244 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 4: been battling against that reality since he took over in 245 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: San Francisco. If he goes out there and has a stinker. 246 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: There's gonna be this guy. This is why he was 247 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: drafted there. It's gonna be the same story. It's gonna 248 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: be the same story until further notice. I don't even know. 249 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 4: If he goes out there has a great game, if 250 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: it shuts everybody up permanently, maybe it gives him a 251 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: couple of weeks reprieve. 252 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: But this is gonna take time. 253 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: This is gonna be a gradual winning over, at least 254 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 4: for some types. 255 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, if he. 256 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 4: Goes out there and has a bad game, you will 257 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,119 Speaker 4: see a large clamor about the difference for San Francisco 258 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 4: is they didn't have a quarterback. 259 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: And maybe when we. 260 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: Get to the predictions, that's what it comes down to. 261 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: But Brock Party, Brock Party can right his future in 262 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: many ways if he can just go out there and 263 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 4: play the game of this life. 264 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: Tomorrow. 265 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: We are efforting a very special guest here. But in 266 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: the meantime, by the way, one quick update, we do 267 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: have a final In the late NBA game, Golden State 268 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: Warriors take care of the Phoenix Suns. A late Steph 269 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 2: Curry three with points seven seconds left gives the Warriors 270 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: a one thirteen one to twelve victory. Say, you'll have 271 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: more details on that here in just a few moments. 272 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: Let's talk Patrick Mahomes for a second. I mean, first 273 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: of all, let me let me ask you a dumb question. 274 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 2: If he loses and it's bad, he was not good 275 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: in that Tampa Bay super Bowl that you reference, but 276 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: also the offensive line was terrible, we get it, But 277 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: is there any like, what is the what is the conversation? 278 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 2: If he loses and he's really bad at that point, 279 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: it would be four super Bowls two and two overall. 280 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: The first one bluntly against San Francisco, he really, as 281 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: you just reference, wasn't very good for about three quarters, 282 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: was much better last year, et cetera. 283 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 3: But he'd be two and two. 284 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: Is there any like how negative would it get considering 285 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: that we're still talking about a guy that's twenty seven 286 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: to twenty eight years old that would have just completed 287 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: his fourth super Bowl. 288 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 4: Not very again, same point about the stubbornness and pridefulness 289 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 4: of human beings. He's got a whole lot built into him, 290 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 4: and a lot of people have spent a lot of 291 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 4: years building him up, talking about him being, you know, 292 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 4: the contemporary for a Tom Brady type. 293 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: So if he loses, there will be the offensive line 294 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: let him down, or the defense let him down. 295 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 4: Or there'll be a wide receiver for the Yeah, there'll yeah, 296 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 4: or there will be drops or there it'll kelsey. You know, 297 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 4: whatever it is, there will be an excuse. And I'm 298 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 4: not saying and it might be a viable excuse. I 299 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 4: tend to think as we go into the break, I 300 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: tend to think, oh, okay, we got okay, We're gonna 301 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 4: stick around. I tend to think that in general, that's 302 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 4: not gonna happen either way. I don't think he's gonna 303 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: play badly. 304 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jamart, we have about two and a 305 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: half hours left to get to all things super Bowl. 306 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: But in the meantime, you want to do a hard 307 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: pivot and talk a little college hoops. As the number 308 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: two team in the country, tonight, the Perdue boiler Makers 309 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: take care of their big rival, the Indiana Hoosiers in 310 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: West Lafayette and joining us now. The head coach of 311 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: the Purdue boiler Makers, Matt Painter, is on the phone. 312 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: Coach Painter, how you doing. 313 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 5: I'm good, guys, thanks for having me on. 314 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate you having on. First of all, quick question, coach. 315 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: For those of us who you know, we always hear 316 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: about the great rivalries across this sport, and everybody knows 317 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: what they are. For those of us who haven't had 318 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: a chance to experience a Purdue Indiana game, either in 319 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: Bloomington or West Lafayette, right taking take us into what 320 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: it was like in your building tonight. 321 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was pretty electric. Our fans are great, obviously. 322 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 5: They have great fans in Indiana also, and so it's 323 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 5: just one of those special games you have the bragging 324 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 5: rights in your state. They swept us last year, we 325 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 5: swept them this year. But it's pretty special. I've got 326 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 5: to experience it as a player and assistant coach and 327 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 5: the head coach. Now it's been it's been pretty cool. 328 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: So you guys, twenty two and two, rocking and rolling 329 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 4: inside the conference. You've got the tournament coming up. Obviously, 330 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: what is it about this team that you like best? 331 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 4: And you really feel like it's the strengths as you 332 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 4: get down to the nitty gritty. 333 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the balance of our team. Obviously. We 334 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 5: have an elite point guard, we have an elite center. 335 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 5: We have really good players across the for we have 336 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 5: skilled guys that go with those guys Mason Gillis, Fletcher Lawyer, 337 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 5: Lance Jones, just to say a few of them that 338 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 5: they really balance things out. Trey Kauffman Win is different 339 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 5: than Mason and he's more of a post up guy. So, 340 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 5: you know, we have really good pieces. Heck, we got 341 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 5: guys that don't play very much and don't play at 342 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 5: all that can play. And so like we're very fortunate. 343 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 5: Our assistants have done a great job evaluating recruiting here. 344 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 5: We try to get the right fit at Purdue, you 345 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 5: know both, you know, on the court and off the court. 346 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 5: We're not perfect, but that's what I just like our balance. 347 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 5: I like the guys on our team. They're competitive, they 348 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 5: want to win. We faced adversity, we've had success, and 349 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 5: we just kind of keep going in the direction of 350 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 5: just being positive and just trying to get better on 351 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 5: both hands. 352 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: Matt Painter, head coach Purdue boiler Makers are joining us coach, 353 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: I know you just reference that balance and that's probably 354 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: the answer to this question. But you know, college hoops 355 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: is crazy this year. It seems like every single night 356 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: top ten team is losing, especially on the road. Is 357 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: it that balance, Is it that entire group that has 358 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: allowed you guys to just consistently win night after night 359 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: in the sport we're outside of you and maybe the 360 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 2: only other team atop the rankings, Yukon seems like everybody's 361 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: vulnerable on any given night. 362 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, no question, everybody's vulnerable. Even though you might have 363 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 5: a better record than some everybody's vulnerable and anybody can 364 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 5: beat you on a given night. But you know, Zach 365 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 5: Edy is someone that you really can't prepare for unless 366 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 5: you've already played him, Like he can prepare for him, 367 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 5: but like he's such a physical presence and can it 368 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 5: causes so many problems for people, and so like we 369 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 5: just try to establish him and I think that's where 370 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 5: we have a difference with a guy like that. But 371 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 5: then we have a lot of experience, We have a 372 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 5: lot of unselfish guys that play roles, and so that 373 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 5: combination has really helped us kind of separate ourselves. 374 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 4: So, I mean, he's seven to four, so that's the 375 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 4: obvious like strength advantage, but just in terms of his game, 376 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 4: what's the thing that you look at and say, this 377 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 4: is why he is so special? 378 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 5: You know, his ability to rebound every night. Like he 379 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 5: you know, he puts up really good numbers, be able 380 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 5: to get deep position. Also, sometimes you'll have a good 381 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 5: post player and like certain people aren't. 382 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 6: Gonna let them, you know, get you know to that 383 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 6: point of where like can you get five to eight 384 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 6: feet from the basket. So like you know, he can 385 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 6: get five to eight feet from the basket, and so 386 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 6: that really separates and puts people in binds. But he 387 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 6: runs the flower, he plays ball, screen d change of shots. 388 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 6: He does a little bit of everything for us. But 389 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 6: you know, he's a special player. And obviously he's a 390 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 6: National Player of the Year. I would think he's gonna 391 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 6: be a National Player of the Year again. And uh, 392 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 6: you know, we're very fortunate to have him coach. 393 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: A couple of quick ones. We'll get you out of here. 394 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: Matt Panter joining us from Purdue University Purdue to care 395 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: business against Indiana this tonight. Just quick question, you know 396 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: with Mett, with Zach, he's so unbelievable. But obviously, especially 397 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: coming off that Northwestern game a few weeks ago, there 398 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: was a conversation fair or not you guys had a 399 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: decided free throw advantage. Does that bother you at all, 400 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: just just he's so good. But that became a topic 401 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: of conversation coming on that game. 402 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 5: Well, anybody who has a top of a conversation about 403 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 5: that doesn't know anything about basketball. Because the team that 404 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 5: was playing gets fouled the most in the Big Can 405 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 5: in the team that we were going against fouls the 406 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 5: most in the Big Ten, and that has nothing to 407 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 5: do with our game first sample. And so when you 408 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 5: foul the most in the league and you get fouled 409 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 5: the most in the league. We had the number one 410 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 5: free throw disparity in the country last year, three hundred 411 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 5: and sixty one teams. So it was just poor journalism 412 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 5: and immediate people grabbing things that don't exist. You know, 413 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 5: he gets in the post comment and starts talking about 414 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 5: they fouled intentionally at the end and they got two technicals. 415 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 5: There's eight free throws, all right, So it was that 416 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 5: thirty eight and he was talking about there were fifty 417 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 5: free throws and there wasn't. There was thirty eight. But 418 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 5: he's getting fouled like that. So like, I just don't understand. 419 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 5: When I go back and watch the tape of Money, 420 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 5: I always tell our guys, I just be honest about stuff. 421 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 5: It was against us, but be honest about it. That's 422 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 5: how you learn, you know, you get better by it. 423 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 5: So like that to me was just it was bad 424 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 5: because here we have a really good win, a tough win, 425 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 5: and then people are writing those articles and talking about 426 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 5: those things. Go go make clips, Go go show me 427 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 5: clips where he's getting fouled and they're calling it and 428 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 5: it's not a foul like you can bring out like 429 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 5: one or two. And if you do that, you're like, Okay, 430 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 5: now you've opened up a can of worms to the 431 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 5: things that don't get called to them, and it's going 432 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 5: to be more than two. And so like to me, 433 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 5: like people create that narrative because they don't want to 434 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 5: really talk about you know, down he's that hard of 435 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 5: the cover, he's that tough to go against. So we 436 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 5: shot a bunch of free throws the same way at 437 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 5: their place, but they drove the ball in that game 438 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 5: and the game at our place they shot and made 439 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 5: a bunch of threes. Well, you're not going to go 440 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 5: to the free throw line if you shoot a bunch 441 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 5: of perimeter shots and a bunch of threes. And rightfully, 442 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 5: so the other element of that argument was they're they're 443 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 5: they're fouling us, and we missed them that game. So 444 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 5: what they're doing and following us, we were missing free throws, 445 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 5: so they should just stay with it. So when they 446 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 5: went to complain about it and saying this is a 447 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 5: crazy box score, it didn't make sense because part of 448 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 5: what they were doing was helping them. Now the other 449 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 5: part wasn't because we didn't make some but we didn't 450 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 5: shoot a very high percentage that game at all. So 451 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 5: to me, that's just a lack of basketball understanding. Because 452 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 5: when you go look at data and you look at 453 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 5: facts like the facts that I gave you like, it 454 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 5: speaks for itself. So when somebody goes there and they 455 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 5: run articles and they ESPN picked it up and ran 456 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 5: the article that was the headline of the article about 457 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 5: our game, that wasn't the game. The game was they 458 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 5: were falling way too much and they needed to stop 459 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 5: falling and do something schematically differently if they wanted to 460 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 5: stop them. 461 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: Coach, don't want to end in a negative, So just 462 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: one last positive before we let you go. 463 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: You are too No, that wasn't a negative. 464 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, well we're something negative about it. But at some point, 465 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 5: like people who write stories and cover stuff like they do. 466 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 5: These things create that you could create a stir, but 467 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 5: you also got to look at the facts, like Liz, 468 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 5: look at factual information that I just gave to you, like, 469 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 5: that's not my opinion, those are facts, and so like that, 470 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: it takes away from the success that he's had, and 471 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 5: it takes away from the success that our team's had, 472 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 5: and that's not what you want. You just can't, you know, 473 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 5: you can't just put out a false narrative. And that's 474 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 5: what that was. 475 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: Well, I was just going to say, I want, I 476 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 2: want you to go on, you know, maybe maybe more positive, 477 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: but just how much are you enjoying this group? Second 478 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: straight year you've had the core together, you obviously had 479 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: a piece Michaelance Jones, and it just seems like it's 480 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: a group that's a lot of fun to be around. 481 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, there is. They're they're fabulous there, they're great guys. 482 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 5: It seems like it's a different guy each night, you know, 483 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 5: chiming in for us, making shots, making plays. But no, 484 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 5: this is a this is a great, very very good 485 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 5: group and a bunch of good guys to be around. 486 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: Matt Painter, head coach per Due Boilermakers coach. We know 487 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: it was a busy night rivalry win. We know you 488 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: got a lot on your plate. We genuinely appreciate you 489 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: making some time and sharing some insight with us. 490 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 5: All Right, thanks guys. 491 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 2: That was Matt Painter, head coach of the Purdue Boilermakers. 492 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: Real we got to get to break Jason. Maybe we 493 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: come back and just kind of react to that really 494 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: quickly because he has so good Yeah, well listen, and 495 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: I'll say this. 496 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 3: I'll be blunt. 497 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: You know, I am one of those people that has 498 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: been somewhat not someone I've been very critical of some 499 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 2: of the refereeing in their games. And I have no 500 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: idea if he knows who I am. But it was 501 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: clear that, you know, he has heard a lot about that, 502 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 2: and it is clear that he was not happy about it. 503 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: So come back, maybe talk a little Purdue basketball, and 504 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: we will get back to the Super Bowl, of course, 505 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: which is now less than twenty four hours away. 506 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 3: Ra Torres, Jason Martin Fox Sports Radio. 507 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 508 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 7: the nation. 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Learn more at Discover dot com. Slash 529 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: match credit card limitations apply. Tell you what Jay Bart 530 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: I want to react to actually a little bit of 531 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: what Matt Painter had to say before we do, though, 532 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 2: let's get over the news desk first time this evening. 533 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 3: Steve de Seger, what is trending? My friend? 534 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 9: We had an NBA game that was the feature matchup 535 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 9: at Golden State and the Warriors were down in the 536 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 9: final seconds against Phoenix. Golden State inbounded to guess who 537 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 9: out's pass. 538 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 3: Over to Curry, steps and fires at three. 539 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: It's up a good he had point seven ago Curley. 540 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: Nothing but neck. 541 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 9: And it winds up one thirteen, one to twelve. Golden 542 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 9: State over Phoenix. Curry with not only that late three pointer, 543 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 9: but thirty points in the game. The call from ninety 544 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 9: five point seven the game Warriors Radio Network. The late 545 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 9: contest is mid third quarter at Portland. It's only fifty 546 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 9: nine to fifty Pelicans leading on the road. As for 547 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 9: some of the earlier games, Cleveland won its ninth in 548 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 9: a row Orlando with an overtime win. Charlotte ended a 549 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 9: ten game losing streak beating Memphis one fifteen one oh six. 550 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 9: Grizzlies have lost state in a row. Spurs lost their 551 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 9: seventh straight, Washington lost at sixth in a row. Dallas 552 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 9: pounded Oklahoma City today one forty six to one eleven. 553 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 9: Luka Donzich thirty two points in thirty one minutes. NHL 554 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 9: overtime wins for Carolina and Detroit the late games in 555 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 9: LA second period lead for the Kings two nothing over 556 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 9: the Edmonton Oilers. In college hoops, we know for certain 557 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 9: that Arnie Spanier is not on the air tonight because 558 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 9: the eighth ranked Arizona Wildcats are dominating at Colorado sixty 559 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 9: seven forty eight with twelve and a half minutes left 560 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 9: in that one. Texas A and M, speaking of domination, 561 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 9: took care of six ranked Tennessee tonight eighty five to 562 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 9: sixty nine. Michigan State upset number ten Illinois Rutgers all 563 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 9: over number eleven Wisconsin. Florida beat twelfth ranked Auburn eighty 564 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 9: one sixty five. Auburn has lost fifteen times in a 565 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 9: row at Florida over the last twenty eight years. Gonzaga, 566 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 9: we talked about Zag's last weekend here on this show. 567 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 9: They be in the NCAA Tournament. They needed a win 568 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 9: like today, which certainly could have gotten away from them. 569 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 9: At Kentucky, Zags were up by twelve early second half. 570 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 9: They do hold on for a victory eighty nine eighty 571 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 9: five at seventeenth rank Kentucky. The Wildcats have actually lost 572 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 9: three straight and home. That is a first for the 573 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 9: program at Ruperta, which opened in nineteen seventy six. UNLV 574 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 9: won at twenty fifth rank New Mexico eighty to seventy seven. 575 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 9: The Super Bowl is tomorrow in Vegas, Kansas City against 576 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 9: San Francisco. Super Bowl fifty eight kickoff at six forty 577 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 9: pm Eastern Time. Running Back Jerck McKinnon of Case, after 578 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 9: the groin injury, was activated off injured reserve. He's questionable 579 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 9: for the game after being limited in practice. He played 580 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 9: for San Francisco in twenty twenty. Chiefs All Pro guard 581 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 9: Joe Tooney will be out again this weekend with his 582 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 9: pectoral injury. He missed practice all week and in fact 583 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 9: is now on ir no injury designation anymore. For Kansas 584 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 9: City running back Isaiah Pacheco or for wide receiver Rashi Rice, 585 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 9: and they each practice for yesterday. Chiefs had about a 586 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 9: thirty minute walk through at the stadium today, then the 587 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 9: team photo meetings tonight at the team Hotel forty nine ers. 588 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 9: Perhaps you've heard we're practicing outdoors on some grassover turf 589 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 9: at UNLV. One hour walk through for them there and 590 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 9: then back to Lake Las Vegas there, Team Hotel back 591 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 9: to you. 592 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve de Saga, Fox Sports Radio, 593 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 2: Fox Sports, Fox Football Live aeron Torres. Jason Martin, broadcasting 594 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 2: live from the tyreck dot Com studios, should mention shortly 595 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: after the show, our podcast is going up. If you 596 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: missed any of today's show, be sure to check out 597 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get 598 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: your podcasts, and be sure to also follow, rate and 599 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: review the podcast. 600 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: Again. 601 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, 602 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: and you'll see this show posted right after we get 603 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: off air. Jason, I bring up the podcast because if 604 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: you have missed it, about fifteen minutes ago, Matt Paynter 605 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: head coach Perdue, Boilermaker's number two team in the country, 606 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: just joined us. They were off a twenty point win 607 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: over the Indiana Hoosiers. We're efforting so of the sound 608 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: right now, but one thing I did ask him. There 609 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: have been some games where the foul discrepancy has been 610 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: very one sided, you know, most recently the Northwestern game 611 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: about two weeks ago. They won in overtime. But if 612 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: I'm if my memory is correct, they were plus thirty 613 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: eight from the fall one, which is unheard of, forty 614 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: six to eight. They outshot Northwestern at the foul line. 615 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: And after the game, I know that a lot of 616 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: people were distracted with football, but it was a big 617 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: topic of conversation in college basketball. Is that team is 618 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: Zach Edy specifically, as you referenced. I think everybody knows, 619 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: even if you're not a huge college basketball fan, they're 620 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: seven foot four All American center. You know, is he 621 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: is he unfairly refereed and is perdue unfairly refereed following 622 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: a game where they had thirty eight more file shots 623 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: than their opponent. We don't yet have the sound. We'll 624 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: maybe play it maybe an hour three, But I'm paraphrasing. 625 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to quote coach Painter directly and be 626 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: accused of misquoting him, but I believe he said something 627 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: to the effect of, if you believe that you don't 628 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: know anything about basketball, take that, yeah, take that for 629 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 2: data data. Yeah, David Fizdale, where's. 630 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 3: He at these days? Anyway? He went through a very 631 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: very good rant. 632 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: About you know, why that that narrative isn't fair, why 633 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: it's unfair to his team? Why it takes away from 634 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: zach EDI's brilliance. But it was clear I don't know 635 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: that I intended to kind of hit on any specific, 636 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: you know, like point that would get him that fired up. 637 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: But you could tell he had a lot to say, 638 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: what did you what did you make a coach painter? 639 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: Because he came out pretty strong with that question, anwer. 640 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I loved it because he defended this guy, 641 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 4: he defended his team, and he didn't do it in 642 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 4: a measured way like that was a very candid response, 643 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 4: because it was clearly something because you said does that 644 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 4: bother you? Like that's the way you kind of frame 645 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 4: the questions like does it bother you that that's been a. 646 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: Talking point, and the short answer. 647 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 4: If he just wanted to go too long, don't read, 648 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 4: would just be yes, like very very apparently. Obviously it 649 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 4: bothers him tremendously. And even though Edie has you know, 650 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 4: one Player of the Year and likely will win it 651 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 4: again or certainly is going to have the best opportunity 652 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 4: to do so this year, he feels like that's a 653 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: slight and it's something that's going to be used against him. 654 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: And clearly he doesn't agree, and he had a look. 655 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 4: The best part about what he said was it wasn't 656 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: all emotional because he was bringing in facts, like he 657 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 4: definitely made a good argument because of how you said 658 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 4: it right before the break, what is your opinion on 659 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 4: the topic. You asked the question, but you also kind 660 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 4: of intimated that you might have been a bit critical 661 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 4: of the of the free throw discrepancy yourself. 662 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. I'll try not to boork people too much. 663 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: But I actually he called this out in December and 664 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: I literally got killed by Purdue Twitter. And Jason, I'm 665 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: sure you've been in some of these Twitter you know, 666 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: beats or whatever. Yes, and I mean I literally, and 667 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to make myself sound important. I have 668 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: no idea if he knows who I am. But I 669 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,239 Speaker 2: did have the Purdue sid tweeting at me. I had 670 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 2: other people and whatever. So I have been on this 671 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: for a while, and what I would say is, Jason, 672 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: I think it's a very nuanced topic. Because, by the way, 673 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 2: if you criticize him too much, it makes it sound 674 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: like you hate Zach Edie. I think he's an incredibly 675 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: skilled guy for seven foot four, and he does stuff 676 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: that that no one can defend, but I do think 677 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: it's tough because it's impossible to referee him, and it's 678 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: impossible from the perspective. 679 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: That you know, and I think this is what coach 680 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 3: Paynter alluded to. 681 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: Again, I don't want to directly quote him because I 682 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: don't want to misquot him whatever, But essentially, like what 683 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 2: he said was a guy that big, a guy that's strong, 684 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: he's pretty much gonna be following down every play. I 685 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: think my counter to that would be, I get that, 686 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: but there have been games where you know, he finishes 687 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: a game with one to two fouls, and like as 688 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: the Alabama game for some perspective, if I remember correctly, 689 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: like four or five of Alabama's big guys either followed 690 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: out or finished with four foules or whatever. 691 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: And I'm loosely quoting those stats there. 692 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: But the point that I would make in that is, 693 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: I don't think any player is good enough to draw, 694 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: you know, to follow three, four five guys out of 695 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: a game in a physical, low post game without in 696 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: turn picking up essentially any fouls either. So again it's nuanced. 697 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: He's so much bigger, he's so much stronger. But the 698 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: one thing I will say, because people say, well, he's 699 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: so big, it's like Shack, there's nothing you can do, 700 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: and you know whatever, the difference was, Shaq was like 701 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 2: a thirty five percent file shooter and Zach Edy is 702 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: a great file shooter. Zach Edy on the season is 703 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 2: shooting let's see here, just make sure I have it right, 704 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: seventy one percent from the fall line. And so there's 705 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: no there's no motive to follow him. So a lot 706 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: of people said, well, I mean he's just so big. 707 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: I mean, he gets followed on every play. It's like, 708 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 2: I guess my only point was really quickly is I 709 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: don't think any player is good enough to draw twenty 710 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: five twenty to twenty five files on one end and 711 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: commit one to two on the other end. But the 712 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 2: other thing is, if your argument is well, I mean 713 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: it's like Shack, everybody purposely followed him, It's like, no, 714 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 2: that can't be your argument because he's a seventy one 715 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 2: percent file shooter. So I don't know if that answer 716 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 2: your question at all, Jason, but that was kind of 717 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: my takeaway when I said what I said over the 718 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. 719 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. 720 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 4: I mean I have always heard and it's not really 721 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 4: the shack I mean the shack argument you would make 722 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 4: if he was a bad re throwt shooter, like you said. 723 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 4: But there has always, I mean, there's been that, Like 724 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 4: I've heard that talking point about Lebron, that Lebron is 725 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 4: played so physically that he is destroyed on every play, 726 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 4: his body is ravaged, and that half the stuff doesn't 727 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 4: get called. Now, you can say that's true, you can 728 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 4: say that's false, you can say that's whatever. But I 729 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 4: do think that guys like that are incredibly hard to officiate. 730 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 4: They're hard to defend, but they're really really hard to 731 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 4: officiate because how much is too much? What do you 732 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 4: let go? Do you have different standards in that scenario? 733 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 4: And how much can we pick up in real time? 734 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 4: And how much do we have to see on a 735 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 4: very slow motion replay? And how much are these guys 736 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 4: seeing and overreacting to or underreacting to. And then because 737 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 4: he's so big, are they giving him a little bit 738 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 4: of the benefit of the doubt, not because it's a superstar, 739 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 4: but because it's kind of hard for him not to 740 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 4: make some kind of contact. 741 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if I'm making any. 742 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 4: Sound under, but I just think he's really difficult to 743 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 4: like anybody with eyeballs that's officiating. 744 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: I still think that is a big time challenge. 745 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: Well, and the last thing we really got to get 746 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 2: to break. But what I would just say, which I 747 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: think makes it an extra big challenge, is that you know, 748 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: college different refs, different leagues, different this, different that. 749 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 3: And what I've seen. 750 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 2: With him is that some refs come in and say, basically, 751 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 2: it's like any other game. Once you start calling it 752 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: tight early in the game, you kind of got to 753 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: stick with it. And if you do that, there's literally 754 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: a fall on both ends every single play. And so again, 755 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: it really stinks because if you criticize the officiating or 756 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 2: you question the officiating, sounds like you're criticizing the player. 757 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: That's unfair. Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live 758 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 2: from the Tireck dot com studios. We just had Matt Paynter, 759 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: head coach Purdue. 'll wrap our conversation on Matt Painter, 760 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: get back to the super Bowl. 761 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 3: That's all next. Fox Sports Radio. 762 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 763 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 7: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio 764 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 7: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 765 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 7: listen live. 766 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Tords, Jason Martin 767 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tirec dot Com studios, closing in 768 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 2: on our one Jason Busy Hour. I'm still a little 769 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: like still you know, it's just funny. You just never 770 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 2: know what you're gonna get. And I don't mean to 771 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 2: be like college basketball nerd guy. For people who don't 772 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 2: know much about me or my background, college basketball is 773 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 2: probably the sport you know, I've covered the most. I 774 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: know the most Matt Painter we had on in hour one. 775 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 2: We'll try to get you the podcast and some sound 776 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 2: because he had a lot of interesting things to say. 777 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 2: By the way, Jason, we'll get back to super Bowl 778 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: next hour. I'm guessing I know what the question that 779 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 2: is college basketball related was that you wanted to ask me, 780 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 2: But but you know, we got a short segment here 781 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 2: if you want to If you want to ask, now 782 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: is probably maybe the right time to do it. 783 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 784 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I. 785 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 4: Felt like this was sort of true last year, but 786 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 4: it just seems even more so this time. And I 787 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 4: mean it's the same thing that you've talked to Painter 788 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 4: about I mean, I think it's the thing everybody sooking. 789 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 4: It's just like, what's going on here with everybody that's 790 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 4: ranked in the top ten. Every given night, it just 791 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 4: seems like somebody is dropping. Today it was Tennessee, but 792 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 4: we've seen everybody pretty much do it. Yeah, Perdue, It's 793 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 4: they're on like a nine ten game win streak. Yukon's 794 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 4: playing really really well, but everybody can get beat. And 795 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 4: I don't know what that is, Like, I don't know 796 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 4: why that is. And I didn't know if you had 797 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 4: kind of figured it out, why the parody seems so 798 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 4: much greater now in college basketball than we've seen in 799 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 4: recent memories. 800 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: So I do. 801 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 3: I actually went on with Bernie the other night. We 802 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 3: talked a lot about this. 803 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 2: I think this is the first year where you're really 804 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 2: seeing the portal and NIL essentially just completely flatten the 805 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 2: playing field because nobody wants to sit, nobody wants to wait, 806 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 2: Guys are going up levels, down levels, whatever. And this 807 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: is the first year, like this is the first off 808 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: season into a season where we kind of had nil 809 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 2: figured out. If you remember summer of twenty twenty one, 810 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 2: it's just like we just have nil, just one day 811 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: we don't have it, then the next day we do. 812 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 3: Nobody knows what the heck to make of it. 813 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 2: The year after, some people kind of had their collective 814 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 2: set up, some people didn't. Nobody really knows what to 815 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: make of it. 816 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 3: Whatever. 817 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 2: Last off season everybody went in like, hey, if we 818 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 2: want to compete for players, we got to have this 819 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 2: much money put aside. This is what the quote unquote 820 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 2: going rate is. No, you're not supposed to pay for play, 821 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 2: but we know you do. And so I just look 822 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: at these teams and when you watch these top leagues, 823 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 2: the Big East, the Big Twelve, the SEC, I just 824 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 2: don't see that much of a difference between like team 825 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 2: one and team. 826 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 3: Twelve or thirteen. 827 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 2: Now maybe in the Big East, you know, after Ucon's 828 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 2: number one, but after them team two to team nine 829 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 2: or ten. 830 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 3: Same with the Big Twelve. 831 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 2: So to answer your question, I think that's what it is, 832 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 2: is just nil. Everybody can get players. Now, it's not 833 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 2: about recruiting. It's just about do you have the bag? 834 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 2: And I think more than anything, that's probably what it is. 835 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean that's fair. 836 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 4: I mean, do you think because you have to worry 837 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 4: about so many less guys, it's easier to get one 838 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 4: or two on most teams as opposed to college football, 839 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 4: where it's harder because you have to recruit so much 840 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 4: more just in terms of sheer quantity, and as such, 841 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 4: the depth can still be a problem for some of 842 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 4: these big name schools. 843 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's two things. One, depth is 844 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,720 Speaker 2: such a bigger factor in college football. But in college 845 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 2: basketball you only need two dudes, you know, like right, 846 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 2: and you can kind of fill out around them. 847 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean I think that's what it is. 848 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 5: Is. 849 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 2: It's just this is the year we've seen the flattening 850 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 2: of the playing field. As a matter of fact, I 851 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 2: have a stat right here, and we'll come back and 852 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 2: we'll talk about this. We'll get back to super Bowl talk. 853 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 2: But the stat is, Jason, how about this. As of 854 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 2: this moment, top ten teams are thirty one and thirty 855 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 2: three this season when playing on the road against unranked opponents, 856 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 2: So unranked teams basically going on the road. 857 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, We're going on the road. 858 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyway, yeah, fuck. 859 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: Was that dude? 860 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Hour two. Fox Sports Radio er Torus 861 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the tirec dot 862 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 2: Com studios tirec dot com. 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J Mart 869 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 2: and I will also be on Sunday Night Super Bowl 870 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 2: Sunday eleven pm Eastern, following Chris Plank and Arnie Spaniel 871 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 2: recapping recapping the Super Bowl. 872 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: Baby, It's gonna be so much fun. 873 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 4: This will be the first time I've done the post 874 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 4: super Bowl show for Fox, and I am looking extremely 875 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 4: forward to it because we're all gonna have watched it 876 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 4: and we're gonna have nine thousand takes on everything that 877 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 4: we have just seen, and we're gonna have first dips 878 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 4: of reaction. 879 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,919 Speaker 1: I am geeked for that one. 880 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 3: The same with me, And you know, I've said this 881 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 3: so many times, Jason. 882 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 2: I know people are probably sick of me saying it, 883 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 2: and maybe you even of hearing it, but you know, 884 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 2: I think we're so blessed to be in this timeslot. 885 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 2: I know that, you know, working saturdays. You know we 886 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 2: were away from our families. By the way, I should mention, 887 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 2: I haven't even told you we're pat but I'm actually 888 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,439 Speaker 2: off next week. We got a family commitment, but neither 889 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 2: here nor there. No, it's not the post super Bowl. 890 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 2: Torres has just taken a weekend. Okay, my little sisters, 891 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 2: you know, seven a baby, seven little baby showers, So 892 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 2: we're gonna be spending. 893 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: Time that's more important than the show. 894 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, I think so too. I made sure 895 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 2: to tell our boss specifically. I was like, look, this 896 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 2: ain't just about you know, it's not just the weekend 897 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 2: after the super Bowl, and Tours is kicking his feet 898 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 2: up thinking that the job is done. 899 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 3: Nothing like that. 900 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 2: But I love working this shift, man, because no matter 901 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 2: what it is, whether it's major college football, whether it's 902 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 2: NFL playoff games. We were on air obviously right after 903 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 2: that forty nine Ers Packers game a few weeks ago, 904 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 2: NBA playoffs. I don't even remember all the details, but 905 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 2: I remember us being on right after a wild Celtics 906 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: heat game last year in the playoffs. I mean, it's 907 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 2: such a fun shift, and you're exactly right. 908 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: Is that. 909 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 3: Listen. 910 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 2: You know, we're lucky to work with a ton of 911 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 2: guys and girls on this network, and everyone's gonna have 912 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 2: great opinions on Monday and Tuesday and Sunday night. 913 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 3: Ben Maller following us. But to essentially be the first ones. 914 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Arnie and Plank will be reacting as 915 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 2: the game goes final, but we're gonna be the first 916 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 2: ones that kind of have an hour, take a deep breath. 917 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 2: What do we think? What happened? What didn't happen. It's 918 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 2: gonna be fun. It's going to be a ton of fun. 919 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, no doubt. 920 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, the super Bowl involves even more than 921 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 4: just the game itself. Who knows what else there's going 922 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 4: to be to talk about there comes from tomorrow as well. 923 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 4: But man, that's about time to really start breaking down 924 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 4: this game and get down to business. 925 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, where do you want to start? 926 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 3: I mean we obviously I don't know. 927 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we talked our one about a lot about 928 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 2: brock Party, but mahomes as well, the impact that this 929 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 2: could have on their legacies. Let me ask you this, 930 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 2: I don't know that I've heard like a ton of this, 931 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 2: But I have heard this, and I don't know that 932 00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 2: I fully get it. But Andy Reid sixty five five 933 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 2: years old, he'll be sixty six in March. I have 934 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 2: heard the conversation. I mean one, First of all, I'll 935 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 2: ask you this, Andy Reid, if he wins this, obviously 936 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 2: he'll be his third Super Bowl? What his fifth appearance? Overall, 937 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 2: I don't do like I'm not big on like rankings 938 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 2: and this and that, but I've heard our buddy Colin 939 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 2: Cowhard reference this quite a bit. Is that the front 940 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 2: end of Andy Reid's career, every rule was defensive oriented. 941 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 2: You know, you could receivers run over the middle, you 942 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 2: could try to take their heads off literally, And since 943 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 2: the rules have changed, this guy has gone to another level. 944 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 2: And I just bring it up because I don't want 945 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 2: to do the whole like, where does he rank if 946 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 2: he wins another Super Bowl? But as the rules have changed, 947 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 2: and once he got listened, Donald McNabb was very good, 948 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 2: he was never great. But Andy Reid, I mean, he 949 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 2: wins this one, he wins a third one. There aren't 950 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 2: very many guys that have won a third. And I'll 951 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 2: take it even a step further. Jason I've heard a 952 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 2: lot about, you know, the idea of he's sixty six 953 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 2: years old, could he potentially retire? 954 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 3: I just don't get it. 955 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I I you know, unless his health isn't good, 956 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 2: which I there's no reason to think that it isn't. 957 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 2: This is a guy that you know, toiled away for 958 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 2: many years with with Alex Smith and Donovan McNabb and whoever. 959 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 2: And it's just like guy's an offensive savant and he 960 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 2: has his muse in Patrick Mahomes. I just can't imagine 961 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 2: win or lose, why he would possibly want to step away. 962 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 3: Especially because I think they got a nice little runway here. 963 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 2: You win this one this year, Jason, after a season 964 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 2: in which we all and I include myself, left that 965 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 2: team for dead, especially that Christmas Day game Las Vegas Raiders. 966 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: Whatever. 967 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 2: Anyways, I'm rambling the point I'm trying to make. He 968 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 2: was this one. That's three. 969 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 3: I don't think the runway is anywhere close. 970 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 2: To being done. I don't see the reason why he 971 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 2: should or would step away if they win this one. 972 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: Jason, Well, I mean, the only. 973 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 4: Reason that he steps away is for reasons we can't know, 974 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 4: and that would be and well, you mentioned health. But 975 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 4: I didn't even think of that. I just thought, is 976 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 4: it possible he's tired? Is it possible, yes, I mean 977 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 4: it could be. Is he not having fun anymore? I 978 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 4: tend to doubt that based on all of what you 979 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 4: just laid out. 980 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 3: I agree he's having more fun than he's ever had 981 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 3: to be. 982 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be my thinking. And then it's just, hey, 983 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 4: you know, do you want to spend time with your wife? 984 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 4: Do you just is it time to just wind down 985 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 4: and go take it to the house. And there are 986 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 4: some people that aren't, like, maybe he's sad enough. I 987 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 4: don't tend to think that way. It just doesn't feel 988 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 4: like to me. He wins and then rides off into 989 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 4: the sunset. He does have the opportunity, if he wins, 990 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 4: to leave on top, and that is it's a double 991 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 4: edged sword because most people can't do it. But a 992 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 4: lot of people, if you talk to him, they'd love 993 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 4: to have done it. They'd love to have the opportunity to. 994 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: Go out on their own terms. 995 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 4: And there's very few John Elway stories where you go 996 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 4: out after a Super Bowl win. So you have the 997 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 4: opportunity to do that if you in the game. But 998 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 4: if his health is fine and he's still having fun. 999 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 4: They're going to continue to be a contender as long 1000 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 4: as that guy's the quarterback, and especially with the offense 1001 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 4: that Andy Reid has helpedcraft for him. 1002 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: So I don't see it either. 1003 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 4: It would just it would just have to be some 1004 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 4: personal choice of something else that he wants to do 1005 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,479 Speaker 4: with this time, or just. 1006 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: Having had enough for one reason or another. 1007 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 6: Uh. 1008 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: And that's just not something we can know until he 1009 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: were to walk away and tell. 1010 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 2: Us yeah, and that's you know, again, we obviously don't know. 1011 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 2: I think it's a good point. If there's something that 1012 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 2: would push him out with a win, you know, it's 1013 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 2: something that we probably frankly would. 1014 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 3: Not know at this point. 1015 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 2: But I just sit there and say, I just think 1016 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 2: if you're an offensive genius, you know, it's it's no 1017 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 2: different than whatever, being a basketball coach, and you know, 1018 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 2: you wait your whole career and you get to coach 1019 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan or Lebron James or you know whoever, Steph Curry, whatever, 1020 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 2: and it's like, I just I don't know. 1021 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 3: I just I can't. 1022 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 2: I can't understand how you spend your whole career or 1023 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 2: this offensive guy the rules are working against you. You 1024 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 2: don't have the guy, you don't have the right quarterback. 1025 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: Now you have a. 1026 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 3: Once in a generation, a once in a life. 1027 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 2: I don't even think it's it's beyond once in a generation, Jason, 1028 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 2: because mahomes can do things that literally no one maybe in. 1029 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 3: The history of the sport has been able to do in. 1030 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 2: Terms of you know, throwing, running deep ball, short passes, 1031 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 2: arm angles. I mean, I just that's the part that 1032 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 2: stands out to me, is like I've heard a lot 1033 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 2: of this is like well. 1034 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean, it's just. 1035 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 2: It's like, no, he's probably, like, like we just said, 1036 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 2: he's probably having more fun than he has ever had before. 1037 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question. I kind of think, by. 1038 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 2: The way, if he loses, if the Chiefs lose, does 1039 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 2: that change your perspective on Andy Reid it all or 1040 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 2: is it just more of a if he's healthy, if 1041 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,240 Speaker 2: he's happy, if his wife is supportive, there's no reason 1042 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 2: to step away. 1043 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 1: Wait, wait say that again. No, No, I'm saying. 1044 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying if he loses, just just the option. 1045 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it changes anything. 1046 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,280 Speaker 4: I mean, maybe you still have a little more fire 1047 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 4: because you want to come back, but I don't think so. 1048 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 4: I mean, his legacy is set. Everybody knows who he 1049 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 4: is and what he's done, what he's responsible for, how 1050 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 4: good he's been. He's validated all those NFC championship opportunities 1051 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 4: that he had with the Eagles and making it to 1052 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 4: that Super Bowl, and then you know, he finally gets 1053 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 4: what he needs around him and the support of good ownership, 1054 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 4: and we see what he's capable of. But no, I 1055 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 4: don't think a win or a loss is going to 1056 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 4: tip the scales. I mean, yeah, it might. I think 1057 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 4: it would probably lead to him coming back more than leaving. 1058 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 4: But I just don't think that there's much difference either way. 1059 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 4: I just just based on how it feels, I just 1060 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 4: don't sense that he is looking for a way out 1061 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 4: right now. 1062 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 2: Let me ask you about one of his star players, 1063 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 2: Travis Kelce, thirty four years old. He'll be thirty five 1064 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 2: October of twenty twenty four. I kind of feel the 1065 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 2: same way. I mean, listen, it's not my body that's 1066 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 2: getting beat up every single week. I'm not the guy 1067 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 2: that's dating the pop star that's worth a billion dollars, 1068 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 2: just believe it or not. 1069 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 3: My wife is not worth a billion dollars. 1070 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,359 Speaker 2: But I only bring it up because you look at 1071 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 2: at Kelsey and it's kind of the same thing. Listen, 1072 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 2: we don't know his health, but if you're winning super Bowls, 1073 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 2: you're making so much money off the field, you're you're 1074 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 2: now one of the most recognizable guys in this sport, 1075 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 2: maybe the most recognizable non quarterback, maybe factoring in who 1076 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 2: he's dating, the most recognizable. Yeah, maybe the most recognizable 1077 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 2: player in the sport period. I mean, I guess you 1078 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 2: could go tour with your girlfriend and and make a 1079 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 2: lot of money and live a good life, but especially 1080 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 2: if you win, if you get that third I don't 1081 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 2: really understand why Travis Kelsey would want to step away either, 1082 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 2: but I feel like that's become a narrative you're over 1083 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 2: these last couple weeks as well. 1084 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't sense that one either, And 1085 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 4: I don't think that I know he struggled a bit 1086 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 4: from time to time this year, but I still think 1087 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 4: he is outstanding, and he knows who he's got at quarterback, 1088 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 4: and he knows he's walking into Canton as soon as 1089 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 4: he leaves, as soon as he's eligible, he's gonna be 1090 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 4: a slam dunk Hall of Famer might be. 1091 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: The greatest tight end to ever live. 1092 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 4: But you say, I mean he's thirty five, he's not 1093 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 4: forty five, and he's got Patrick Mahomes and he's got 1094 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 4: Andy Reid. Now, if all of those guys were all 1095 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 4: walking away, if Mahomes' contract was coming to an end, 1096 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 4: he was going to make a move, and that was. 1097 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 1: All the talk. 1098 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,439 Speaker 4: And there have been all this drama throughout the year. 1099 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 4: You know, maybe we have a different discussion here. I 1100 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 4: just don't sense it. I think that that core nucleus 1101 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 4: of Red, Maholmes, and Kelsey are all going to be 1102 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 4: on the field wearing the exact same colors next season. 1103 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,320 Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason do want to come back? And 1104 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 2: I want to look at it from the opposite perspective. 1105 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 2: We talk brock perty in our one. What is at 1106 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,720 Speaker 2: stake on Super Bowl Sunday for Kyle Shanahan. That's next. 1107 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 2: Aaron Torres Jason martin In on a busy Saturday night 1108 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 2: into Sunday, right before the Super Bowl. This is Fox 1109 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Welcome Backy Body, Fox Sports Radio. Eric Torres, 1110 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 2: Jasmartin broadcasting live from the Tire Rack Dot com Studios. 1111 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 2: We are continuing our conversation on the Super Bowl. For 1112 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 2: the break, we were talking a little bit about Patrick Mahomes, 1113 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey. Could Travis Kelsey retire, Could Andy Reid retire? 1114 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 1: Jason What's wait a second here, here you go. 1115 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 4: What's more likely Travis Kelsey retires after a win or 1116 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,720 Speaker 4: proposes to Taylor Swift. 1117 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 3: He was asked this week and he said, I'm only 1118 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 3: focused on one ring right now. 1119 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,479 Speaker 1: So, yeah, do you say which one? 1120 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 2: I think he implied it was. I know, I know 1121 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 2: it was the one that fifty two of his other 1122 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,240 Speaker 2: friends gets. So yeah, huh. 1123 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 4: I do you want to buy into the conspiracy theory 1124 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 4: of this whole thing being artificial and a setup, marketing deal, 1125 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 4: all this kind of thing, And there's reason to believe that, 1126 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 4: because there's a lot of Taylor Swift and maybe all 1127 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 4: of Taylor Swift that feels very hard, official and created 1128 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 4: and meticulously designed. But then you would think that the 1129 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 4: fix has been in, that the Chiefs are going to 1130 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl and this whole thing has been 1131 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 4: set up because it's the Taylor Swift thing. I've actually 1132 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 4: seen that argument made. I think it's insane, But it 1133 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 4: just shows kind of where we are in twenty twenty 1134 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 4: four and. 1135 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 1: How people think. 1136 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,760 Speaker 4: But I do think it is fascinating to think about 1137 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 4: the moment and the stories and the amount. 1138 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: Of like outside of the royal family. 1139 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know that you would have more magazine 1140 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 4: covers covering one thing with maybe one or two photos 1141 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 4: and everything else than that moment. 1142 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 1: If Travis Kelcey. 1143 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 4: Were to propose on the field to Taylor Swift, with 1144 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,839 Speaker 4: all the cameras and fifty million, eighty million people whatever 1145 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,760 Speaker 4: it is they're going to be watching the Super Bowl tomorrow, 1146 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,839 Speaker 4: I'm sure it'll be a record watching that moment. That 1147 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,240 Speaker 4: will be one of the most trafficked images and moments 1148 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 4: it's in global history. 1149 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 3: That's a great question. 1150 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 2: Would there be considering the amount of eyeballs that are 1151 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:10,280 Speaker 2: already on a Super Bowl one hundred plus million, most tears, considering. 1152 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 3: How many more will be on even. 1153 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 2: If it's four, five, six, eight ten million, which is 1154 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 2: a small number relative to most Super Bowls because of 1155 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's boyfriend playing like, would that be the most like? 1156 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 2: I think you could argue you'd be maybe the most 1157 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 2: iconics not the right word. 1158 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,880 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, it would be one of the it 1159 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 4: would be one of the most memorable, retweeted, famous photos, whatever. 1160 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 4: It's a great point of all time, like in American history. 1161 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 4: Like legitimately, I know that some people are rolling their 1162 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 4: eyes right down now, but tell me I'm wrong. 1163 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 3: Now you can't. 1164 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 2: And it's crazy because you think about like the world 1165 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 2: that we live in, right, and you talk about like 1166 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 2: the fracture of the media. How you know, nobody watches 1167 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,720 Speaker 2: the same TV shows and you can can't get anyone 1168 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 2: to a live TV at the same time. It's like 1169 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 2: if that happened at the same time, like, how many 1170 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 2: people would be Like that'd be something that you know, 1171 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 2: again just one of probably I think you could argue 1172 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 2: the single what's the right word, not most viewed, but 1173 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 2: the single most experienced pop culture moment of all time, Like. 1174 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 4: It would be on it would be in terms of 1175 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 4: the super Bowl. It would, you know, knock Janet Jackson 1176 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 4: off the list. It would knock all those things off 1177 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 4: the list. But again, like that's why I mentioned the 1178 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 4: Royal Family because to me, the Royal Family is pop 1179 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 4: culture because this point, it's basically figurehead and it's kind 1180 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 4: of about the pageantry and everything goes around it. 1181 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: It's not really ruling the country or anything like that anymore. 1182 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 4: But when you have a royal wedding, I mean, my 1183 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 4: wife got up at like five a m. Got with 1184 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 4: her friends and watched that and all that kind of stuff. 1185 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 4: So I said, outside of the royal family, and maybe 1186 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 4: even include the royal family, I can't think of anything 1187 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,720 Speaker 4: that would make that kind of impact and be talked 1188 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 4: about that much. 1189 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 1: Ever. 1190 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 4: Like it's just it would be staggering from a pop 1191 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,280 Speaker 4: culture standpoint, what that would look like Sunday night, Monday morning, 1192 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,240 Speaker 4: it would be insanity. 1193 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 3: Real quick. 1194 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 2: I believe the most viewed event outside of a super 1195 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 2: Bowl was the series finale of Mash. Well, yeah, one 1196 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,839 Speaker 2: hundred and five million people watched according to Wikipedia, which 1197 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 2: is that's just an insane number. That was in nineteen 1198 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,760 Speaker 2: eighty three, yep, or maybe. 1199 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 3: It was Dallas. Was it Dallas? 1200 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: Dallas? 1201 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,800 Speaker 4: I mean that was big too, but Mash is always 1202 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 4: the most famous finale. Everybody pretty much that had a 1203 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,320 Speaker 4: television apparently tuned into that. And this was a time 1204 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 4: that you know, they had the advantage though. You got 1205 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,399 Speaker 4: to think, where you only had three four television, what's 1206 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 4: what I mean, so everybody watched Mash, and everybody watched 1207 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 4: that finish, Whereas even by the time Cheers, Seinfeld, Fraser, friends, 1208 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,240 Speaker 4: whatever the show is that you loved came to a close, 1209 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,839 Speaker 4: there was cable, there was sports on that night, There 1210 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 4: was all sorts of other things that you could be watching. 1211 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 4: That makes it very hard to dethrone something like Mash. 1212 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 3: The Who Shot Jr? 1213 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,919 Speaker 2: Episodehead it was a big eighty three million viewers, which 1214 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 2: was more than the number of people who voted in 1215 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 2: that year's election, according to again that the trusted Wikipedia. No, 1216 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 2: it's an interesting conversation that I wasn't prepared for. But 1217 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 2: and I don't want to keep just rehashing the same thing. 1218 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 2: But I'm trying to think of what could have been 1219 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 2: more viral and just the amount of it, Like you said, like, 1220 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 2: here's the question outside because you know, like like you know, 1221 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 2: you have these shows, Good Morning America, whatever, all these 1222 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 2: morning shows, and they always talk about the halftime performance 1223 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,439 Speaker 2: and the commercials. Would they talk about anything other than 1224 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 2: the engagement if it were to happen, No, right. 1225 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 1: Probably not. 1226 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 4: I mean, Usher's performance is not likely to generate much 1227 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 4: like talk unless there's something special coming from I know 1228 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 4: he's got an album or whatever, but it's not there's 1229 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 4: not something that's going to be It's probably gonna be 1230 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 4: a great performance, but it's not gonna be anything particularly newsworthy. 1231 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 4: The commercials are always discussed, and apparently they're all full 1232 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 4: of celebrities, more so than ever before this year, So 1233 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 4: prepare for that, America. But yeah, if that happens, that's 1234 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 4: all it's gonna be talked about. In fact, if that happens, 1235 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 4: the game is going to take back. 1236 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 3: See that's what I was gonna say. 1237 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 2: Like our FS one shows would obviously focus on the game, 1238 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 2: but I think even that would be whatever. By the way, 1239 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 2: what is your answer to that question? Andy Reid retiring 1240 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 2: or Travis Kelcey leaving the field and engage man tomorrow. 1241 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: Between the two, I think the more likely one is 1242 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 1: the engagement Me too, Yeah, I do. 1243 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 4: I like there is a piece of me that those 1244 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 4: they know and their publicists know, and everybody surrounding them 1245 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 4: knows that they have the opportunity to do something massively 1246 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 4: historic in the pop culture landscape that will never be forgotten, 1247 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 4: that will be written about that, Movies will be done, documentaries, 1248 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 4: all this stuff Is that a moment that you can 1249 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 4: give up? I don't know, but I definitely think that 1250 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,800 Speaker 4: the more likely of the two is that than Andy 1251 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 4: Reid retiring. 1252 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 2: Okay, can I take a dark twist off of this 1253 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 2: same conversation? 1254 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 4: Depends on how dark you want to go, but let's 1255 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 4: we'll wade into that water. 1256 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 2: Do you think, because I have been thinking about this 1257 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 2: and I'm not being sarcastic about a very serious topic, 1258 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 2: do you think Patrick Mahomes's dad is it? 1259 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1260 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 2: The only reason I asked Jason, I don't want to 1261 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 2: make light of this, but if you remember the year 1262 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 2: that Kansas City lost in the Super Bowl Tampa Bay, 1263 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 2: they had a legal issue with Andy Reid's son right 1264 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 2: before the game. Yeah, and at the time nobody thought 1265 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 2: about it, but it was clearly some degree of a distraction. 1266 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 2: And I know this is like a dark turn that 1267 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 2: you obviously weren't prepared for. But I have been thinking 1268 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 2: about it. Is Mahomes is saying all the right things, 1269 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 2: He seems fine. I know, you know not to you know, 1270 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,919 Speaker 2: make light of it, but the father, at least for now, 1271 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 2: is out on jail. But out on bail. Excuse me, 1272 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 2: but this is obviously something that's kind of serious. And again, 1273 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 2: you know, I know the Mahomes family has been out 1274 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,800 Speaker 2: in enjoying Vegas. I've seen plenty of videos of Jackson, 1275 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 2: and plenty of videos of Brittany, and plenty of videos 1276 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 2: of whatever. I do just wonder if that's just like 1277 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 2: a little bit of a something that's taken away from 1278 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 2: the game prep. I hope it's not. Do you think 1279 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 2: that's at all a distraction for number sixteen? 1280 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: I wonder if he gets asked that question if they lose, 1281 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 1: sure that would be more what I would want to see. 1282 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 4: It's like in the press conference after the game, would 1283 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 4: somebody ask Patrick Mahomes if that was a distraction. 1284 01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 1: During the week or do you leave it alone? 1285 01:00:59,600 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 5: Now? 1286 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 4: The problem here is this is serious. This is third 1287 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 4: DWI yep, at least per the records, So and I 1288 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 4: mean it's a significant scenario. I don't know that it's 1289 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 4: going to be a talking point, but it again gives 1290 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 4: another reason why Patrick Mahomes can kind of get a 1291 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 4: pass if something goes wrong here for those that are 1292 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 4: already in the tank and are never going to have 1293 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,760 Speaker 4: a bad thing to say about it. In general, I 1294 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 4: am one of them and not in the tank. But 1295 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 4: just I think he's already set. I know what he 1296 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 4: is when we get to predictions. You know, his name 1297 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 4: carries a lot of weight when we get to the predictions. 1298 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 4: I hope it's not a storyline. 1299 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 1: I really do. 1300 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 4: I hope it's not something that we even have to 1301 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 4: ask about because it's not Patrick Mahomes that did it. 1302 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 4: His father did it. It's unfortunate. It's not the kind 1303 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 4: of story that you want. It's not what you want 1304 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 4: to have to deal with the week of the super 1305 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 4: Bowl if you're Patrick Mahomes. I hope they don't lose 1306 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 4: because somebody will ask I would think, and the answer 1307 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 4: is not going to be He's not going to have 1308 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 4: the answer where he yet really bothered me. That's not 1309 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 4: gonna happen. It's going to be a blowoff answer. And 1310 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 4: I just, I just I hope that's not what we're 1311 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:15,959 Speaker 4: talking about. 1312 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 3: One thing I will say about Mahomes that we will 1313 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 3: get to Di Seger. 1314 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 2: I give that guy so much credit because there is 1315 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 2: a lot of noise around him, man, and it's like, 1316 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 2: you know, you look at say Lebron James wife stays 1317 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 2: out of the spotlight, raises the kids. 1318 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 1: The kids are all good. 1319 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 2: You know, you know, Bronni's doing his thing at USC. 1320 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,280 Speaker 2: Obviously he had the health scare but whatever. But you know, 1321 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 2: Steph Curry, you know, his kids is and it's like 1322 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 2: you look at Mahomes. His brother is always doing something dumb, 1323 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,880 Speaker 2: his wife, you know, outspoken, and you know obviously now 1324 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 2: he has this issue with his father. I just give 1325 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 2: the guy so much credit. It's not a take or whatever, 1326 01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 2: but it is something I've just been thinking about. Is 1327 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 2: he's it seems to be able to compartmentalize, you know, 1328 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 2: the others around him that are causing chaos. So again, Jea, 1329 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if you have anything to add, but 1330 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 2: it's it is something I've been thinking about. One the 1331 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 2: father angle of it, but two how well he as 1332 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 2: a young man has been able to compart my mentalize 1333 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 2: and separate that kind of you know, really over the 1334 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 2: course of his career. 1335 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a really good point 1336 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 4: because you don't often think about all those other things 1337 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 4: when you watch him. 1338 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 1: You just watch him. 1339 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 4: Play football, and then you usually listen to him after 1340 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 4: the game on the field, talking after a victory, because 1341 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 4: that's generally what happens when Patrick Mahomes plays football. But 1342 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 4: I do think it is to his credit that it 1343 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 4: has not become a circus because he's kind of been 1344 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 4: the thermostat that's kind of kept it there at seventy 1345 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 4: when it comes to Patrick Mahomes, and so we can 1346 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 4: focus on the athlete there, and everything's going on around 1347 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 4: him does not seem to be able to get to him, 1348 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 4: or if he does, we don't know it. He does 1349 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 4: a great job at just staying neutral and moving through. 1350 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Aeron Tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from 1351 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 2: the tyreck dot Com studios. We'll come back, We'll pay 1352 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 2: off the teas from twenty minutes ago about Kyle Shanahan. 1353 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 2: What does he have at stake? On Sunday. Before we 1354 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 2: get to it, though, news Desk disaga what is trending? 1355 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 9: There are a few pop culture moments when you talk 1356 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 9: about like, oh, I know, you got stuff. When the 1357 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 9: final episode of mash was an enormous thing, and that 1358 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 9: same year, in the nineteen eighties, there was a TV 1359 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 9: movie called The Day After about the end of the 1360 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 9: World that was enormous and again no Twitter back then, 1361 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 9: but that really hit the culture. 1362 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,920 Speaker 1: You bringing up you're about to bring up Elvis Presley 1363 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 1: or the Beatles. 1364 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 9: On just have the anniversary for that. What was that 1365 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 9: seventy million or something they said, But when Muhammad Ali 1366 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 9: won the title back against Leon Spinks, that was more 1367 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 9: than seventy million viewers. That was on regular TV with 1368 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 9: Howard Kosel. But as far as pop culture moments, not 1369 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 9: just sports related moments, the when OJ Simpson was running 1370 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,440 Speaker 9: for the Wow. 1371 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,440 Speaker 4: Great call, that's probably not I don't usually think of 1372 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,920 Speaker 4: pop culture and crime together, but if there's one way 1373 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 4: to get there, it's through the juice. 1374 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 9: Because the NBA Finals were on that night back when 1375 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 9: they got big ratings on NBC, and the local NBC 1376 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 9: station in Los Angeles put the NBA Finals in the 1377 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 9: corner and did the juice stuff live with the anchors talking. 1378 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:31,160 Speaker 9: You couldn't hear the basketball at all. As far as 1379 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 9: for history, you know, Nixon resigning or the Apollo landing 1380 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 9: on the moon or things like that. But the one 1381 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,440 Speaker 9: thing I thought of when you were talking about that 1382 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 9: was the Winter Olympics in nineteen ninety four, because they 1383 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,920 Speaker 9: were saying at the time that was over one hundred 1384 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,480 Speaker 9: million viewers. I don't know what it finally fleshed out 1385 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 9: to be, but it was a sixty four share. That is, 1386 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,240 Speaker 9: sixty four percent of the TVs that were turned on 1387 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 9: were watching that one program on CBS. There had been 1388 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 9: close to twenty Super Bowls in history that didn't get 1389 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,720 Speaker 9: a sixty four share, So that Winter Olympics from ninety 1390 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 9: four has got to be on the list somewhere. As 1391 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 9: far as the NBA Everything's Final that included a Golden 1392 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 9: State win, edging Phoenix won thirteen one twelve. Steph Curry 1393 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 9: a late three pointer thirty points in the game. Record 1394 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 9: of twenty five and twenty five for the Warriors. Meanwhile, 1395 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 9: Cleveland wins again thirty five and sixteen record for the Caves. 1396 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 9: They led at Toronto in the second quarter fifty one 1397 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 9: to twenty eight. Nine straight wins for the Caves. They've 1398 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 9: won seventeen of their last eighteen games. Tonight's final one 1399 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 9: nineteen ninety five Atlanta Beach Houston won twenty two to 1400 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 9: one to thirteen the Hawks. Dejonte Murray returned had thirty 1401 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 9: four points. He was out last night with a bad back. 1402 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 9: Indiana shot sixty one percent from the floor and a 1403 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 9: victory at New York won twenty five one to eleven, 1404 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 9: even though Nicks all starred Jalen Brunson was back from 1405 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,680 Speaker 9: a springed ekle and had thirty nine points. New Orleans 1406 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 9: took the late game at Portland ninety three eighty four. 1407 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,520 Speaker 9: Charlotte sent Memphis to an eighth straight loss Brooklyn since 1408 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 9: San Antonio to a seventh straight loss. Philadelphia won at Washington. 1409 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 9: Wizards have lost six in a row. NHL overtime wins 1410 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 9: for Detroit and Carolina and the late games in LA. 1411 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 9: It's the Kings late in the game up three to 1412 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 9: nothing over Edmonton to college hoops Texas A and m 1413 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 9: all over number six Tennessee eighty five to sixty nine. 1414 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 9: In the top five, not only wins for number one 1415 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 9: Connecticut at number two ranked Perdue, but number three North 1416 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,360 Speaker 9: Carolina won seventy five seventy two at Miami, fourth rank 1417 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 9: Kansas over Baylor sixty four to sixty one, and fifth 1418 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 9: ranked Houston was down seven points at Cincinnati early in 1419 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 9: the second half but beat the Bearcat sixty seven sixty two. 1420 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:46,880 Speaker 9: Michigan State upset number ten Illinois Rutgers over eleventh ranked Wisconsin. 1421 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,040 Speaker 9: Florida beat number twelve Auburn. In fact, the Gators led 1422 01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,960 Speaker 9: in the first half twenty six to nine. Gonzaga a 1423 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 9: winner at number seventeen Kentucky. SEC Network said, Kentucky is 1424 01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 9: the first team in that conference since nine ninety three 1425 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 9: to will allow eighty five points for more or more 1426 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 9: in four straight home games. And yeah, they've lost three 1427 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,919 Speaker 9: straight at home, a first for the program since repp 1428 01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,959 Speaker 9: Arena opened in nineteen seventy six. UNLV won at number 1429 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,680 Speaker 9: twenty five right New Mexico, eighty to seventy seven. Obviously, 1430 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 9: a lot of Super Bowl stuff coming up in about 1431 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:21,360 Speaker 9: ten minutes. 1432 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:21,760 Speaker 1: Back to you. 1433 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 2: Yes, Disega will be back in just a few minutes 1434 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,800 Speaker 2: with his extended update. Fox Sports Radio air towards Jason Martin, 1435 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com studios. By the way, Jason, 1436 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 2: when you said to open the show there was a 1437 01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 2: college basketball question you had, I thought it was going 1438 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 2: to be Caliperi in Kentucky because. 1439 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 1: Oh, that's I mean, that's definitely that's the other talking 1440 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:40,559 Speaker 1: point right now, no question. 1441 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, every fall, every single it feels like, really since COVID, 1442 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:50,680 Speaker 2: every couple weeks we get a new worst you know, 1443 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 2: worst of X since X stat with Kentucky in the 1444 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 2: most recent one, as Disaga just told you, first time 1445 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,679 Speaker 2: in a UP arena history, Kentucky, he has lost three 1446 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 2: straight games, so we. 1447 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,000 Speaker 3: Will you know, we'll be monitoring that one. 1448 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 2: Jayson really quickly. I mentioned a few a few times, 1449 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan. First of me, let me even ask you this. 1450 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 2: Forty nine ers, okay, So George Kittle's thirty going on 1451 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 2: thirty one. Trent Williams is obviously mid to late thirties. 1452 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey twenty seven going on twenty eight, which we 1453 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 2: know is pretty old for a quarterback, even more so 1454 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 2: for a running for a running back. Yeah, I don't 1455 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,200 Speaker 2: know if I say quarterback on my brains fried But 1456 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 2: of course he's deal. 1457 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 1: With injuries too, so his body is you know, he's 1458 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:34,760 Speaker 1: taking a beating. 1459 01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:40,320 Speaker 3: Do you think that with this core, this is the 1460 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 3: last best chance? 1461 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,439 Speaker 2: And I would add to this NFC is a little 1462 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 2: bit down, but but Philly has reworked their coaching staff. 1463 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,640 Speaker 2: Green Bay came on like Gangbusters. Dallas has plenty of 1464 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 2: talent on any given day. Detroit is young and talented. 1465 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 2: In nearly one at Levi Stadium, just a few weeks ago. 1466 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:04,960 Speaker 2: The back the Rams are back. I mean, it's hard 1467 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,600 Speaker 2: to call them in, but they're getting up there. Like 1468 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 2: it does feel like this core so many of those 1469 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 2: guys were part of the twenty nineteen to twenty twenty 1470 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 2: Super Bowl run four years ago. I don't know if 1471 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,600 Speaker 2: this is like the last dance, but I don't know 1472 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 2: how many bites you get at the Apple with this 1473 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 2: particular core going forward given some of the ages. 1474 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is your best shot. I know 1475 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,640 Speaker 4: it's again against Patrick Mahomes, but I don't think a 1476 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,960 Speaker 4: lot of these guys are retiring, but they are going 1477 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 4: to start to wear down more and more. 1478 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 1: And you're coming to. 1479 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,799 Speaker 4: This game with most of these guys healthy and ready 1480 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,400 Speaker 4: to go, And this just feels like this needs to 1481 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:47,480 Speaker 4: be the culmination of this entire process, this entire. 1482 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 1: Build for the San Francisco forty nine. 1483 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,960 Speaker 4: When it comes to Kyle Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan is talked 1484 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,320 Speaker 4: about relentlessly about how great he is, but then he's 1485 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 4: have futility in the playoffs, although he's now coaching in 1486 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,680 Speaker 4: his second Super Bowl, and it just feels like, all right, 1487 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 4: if you don't get it done, this year, what's it 1488 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 4: gonna take because they are eventually gonna have to take 1489 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,400 Speaker 4: a step back because you can't pay everybody. And again, 1490 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,160 Speaker 4: there's gonna be something that you're gonna have to let 1491 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,080 Speaker 4: go because of age and things like that. But I 1492 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 4: think the biggest reason why you need to get it 1493 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 4: done now, other than you can never count even if 1494 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,759 Speaker 4: you think it's gonna be an easy road going forward, 1495 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,800 Speaker 4: it's not going to be. We've seen that historically, is 1496 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 4: that the NFC is coming. The NFC is on a 1497 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,840 Speaker 4: come up. There are young conference, but they are good 1498 01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 4: in some spots, faster than we thought. And you might 1499 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 4: be adding Caleb Williams to that mix you have, you 1500 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:36,080 Speaker 4: know there's gonna. 1501 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:36,439 Speaker 1: Be some changes. 1502 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,680 Speaker 4: There's gonna be some things that are gonna make the 1503 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 4: NFC a much tougher road, even in his own division. 1504 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,400 Speaker 4: So I think that's probably the biggest thing is just 1505 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:46,879 Speaker 4: this team feels fully formed. 1506 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:47,800 Speaker 1: Preseason. 1507 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,840 Speaker 4: I picked Chiefs forty nine ers as my Super Bowl 1508 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,559 Speaker 4: And the biggest reason why I picked the forty nine 1509 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 4: ers over the Eagles at the time, which seemed to 1510 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,760 Speaker 4: be the popular pick, is because I just felt like 1511 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,559 Speaker 4: there were less holes to fill and was just a 1512 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 4: completionist mindset, where was just all right, this team's fully 1513 01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 4: formed once they got McCaffrey and they kept him healthy. 1514 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,840 Speaker 4: Now I buy into where they are and I feel 1515 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:14,160 Speaker 4: good about this, and that's you know, when you're there, 1516 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 4: it's not something that lasts. That's not something in football 1517 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:18,640 Speaker 4: that you have for ten years. So you've got to 1518 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:19,559 Speaker 4: take advantage of it. 1519 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 1: Very good. 1520 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:20,840 Speaker 6: Uh. 1521 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,680 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan obviously own one in a Super Bowl as 1522 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 2: a head coach, own one in the Super Bowl as 1523 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 2: a coordinator with eight to three yep. 1524 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,080 Speaker 3: I know it depends on how it all looks. 1525 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 2: And if they lose thirty one to twenty eight and 1526 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,599 Speaker 2: Brock Purty throws for three hundred yards and the defense 1527 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,280 Speaker 2: can't get off the field, then it's a little bit different. 1528 01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 2: Defense hasn't been playing well. I do kind of feel 1529 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 2: like there's a lot at stake for him, though. I mean, listen, 1530 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 2: he's young. I think he's good enough where he is 1531 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,920 Speaker 2: going to have more opportunities in the future, and maybe 1532 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 2: not with this particular core, but you know he's gonna 1533 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,160 Speaker 2: be coaching twenty five thirty years if he wants to. 1534 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,599 Speaker 2: I I don't think it's like, oh, I mean he's 1535 01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,040 Speaker 2: overrated or he's a debacle or whatever. But I do 1536 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,400 Speaker 2: think you know, you can quite a lot of critics 1537 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 2: if there are critics, because he's doing a lot without 1538 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,160 Speaker 2: elite quarterback play. But if he loses this one, there's 1539 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,200 Speaker 2: obviously going to be a lot of talk come Monday 1540 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:17,000 Speaker 2: about Kyle Shiannan. 1541 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and I mean think that. I think 1542 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,599 Speaker 4: the out is if the defense struggles again, then it's 1543 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 4: going to fall on Steve Wilkes and a lot of 1544 01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,880 Speaker 4: forty nine Ers fans that I've seen have already placed 1545 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 4: a lot of wame on Steve Wilkes, so that's going 1546 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,200 Speaker 4: to be sort of the saving piece. But if you're 1547 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:34,600 Speaker 4: the head coach, it all has to come through you, 1548 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,519 Speaker 4: so it can't all be on your coordinators win or lose. 1549 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,400 Speaker 4: It also comes down to you being able to run 1550 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 4: that team and get the job done at the end 1551 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 4: of it. So, yeah, Shanahan needs to cash it in 1552 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,559 Speaker 4: because he's talked about as if he's won several Super 1553 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 4: Bowls and that hasn't happened yet, And I think he 1554 01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:52,639 Speaker 4: knows that full well. 1555 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,920 Speaker 1: And you only get so many cracks at the apple 1556 01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:55,639 Speaker 1: in the first place. 1557 01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,040 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio eron towards Jason Martin. We are broadcasting 1558 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,800 Speaker 2: live from the Tirec dot com studios. Will come back 1559 01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,280 Speaker 2: Steve de Saga, as he said, he's gonna drop all 1560 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,680 Speaker 2: sorts of interesting Super Bowl nuggets. 1561 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:09,479 Speaker 3: That's next. 1562 01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:10,439 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. 1563 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:12,400 Speaker 3: Welcome back everybody. 1564 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,559 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Here tors jy Smart broadcasting live from 1565 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,320 Speaker 2: the tyreck dot Com studios. We are less than twenty 1566 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,639 Speaker 2: four hours away from the Super Bowl. We've been talking 1567 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 2: about it all night. But to Sager Flor's yours extended update, 1568 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,479 Speaker 2: I know you have plenty more on what to expect tomorrow. 1569 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,920 Speaker 9: Kickoff is six forty pm Eastern time. Las Vegas the 1570 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,439 Speaker 9: hosting city for Kansas City versus San Francisco Super Bowl 1571 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:39,080 Speaker 9: fifty eight tomorrow. Guys, it is indoors and more on 1572 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,479 Speaker 9: that in a moment. Do you know that, as much 1573 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,479 Speaker 9: as we're used to games eventually making their way to 1574 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 9: New Orleans and the Super Dome, the first few Super 1575 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,200 Speaker 9: Bowls that were in New Orleans were outdoors because the 1576 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,320 Speaker 9: Super Bowl hadn't been Superdome hadn't been built yet. So 1577 01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,720 Speaker 9: we had three Super Bowls in New Orleans in the 1578 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 9: early days outdoors, in January, and a couple of those 1579 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 9: will forever go down as the coldest super Bowls ever 1580 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,120 Speaker 9: because you wouldn't think they'd be stupid enough to do 1581 01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,599 Speaker 9: this again. But one of them was like forty degrees 1582 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,439 Speaker 9: for a super Bowl. There was a Terry Bradshaw's for 1583 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,519 Speaker 9: a Super Bowl for example, it was two to zing 1584 01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,839 Speaker 9: at halftime and temperature in the forties at two Lane Stadium, 1585 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 9: which is what they used to use. The very first 1586 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,799 Speaker 9: super Bowl at the LA Coliseum famously was not a sellout. 1587 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,960 Speaker 9: They still had a large crowd, like sixty five thousand 1588 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:29,120 Speaker 9: or something, but if you know the configuration for years 1589 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 9: of the Colisseum, some of the seats in the end 1590 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,960 Speaker 9: zone are so far away from the action. I'm glad 1591 01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 9: for the sake of the fans they did not sell those. 1592 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,839 Speaker 9: But no, the first super Bowl was not a sellout. 1593 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,960 Speaker 9: What about ticket prices? Well, according to the network carrying 1594 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,320 Speaker 9: it tomorrow, face value tickets for a Super Bowl for 1595 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:51,200 Speaker 9: a nosebleed seat usually cost about one thousand dollars. I 1596 01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 9: looked at the official ticket master website for tomorrow, and 1597 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 9: I found in the entire stadium in Vegas exactly five 1598 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:03,160 Speaker 9: tickets as low as six thousand dollars on resale currently, 1599 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,559 Speaker 9: and that does not include the fees, which will take 1600 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 9: it up far, far more than six thousand dollars. Here's 1601 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,960 Speaker 9: how much the ticket prices have gone up for the 1602 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 9: Super Bowl. And I understand supply and demand. There's especially 1603 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 9: in Vegas. It's one of the smaller stadiums that we're 1604 01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,120 Speaker 9: going to get in recent years hosting a super Bowl, 1605 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 9: but the demand is enormous. 1606 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:26,559 Speaker 1: It's the super Bowl. 1607 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 9: But about fifteen years ago, the top price face value 1608 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,680 Speaker 9: for the absolute best seat was one thousand dollars. Now 1609 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,559 Speaker 9: it's nosebleeds face value are one thousand. If you go 1610 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,040 Speaker 9: back to when the Bears dominated their Super Bowl in 1611 01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,120 Speaker 9: the mid nineteen eighties, that was Super Bowl twenty, ticket 1612 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,839 Speaker 9: prices were seventy five dollars to get into the super 1613 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 9: Bowl seventy five. And this is not ancient history. This 1614 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,600 Speaker 9: is in the nineteen eighties, and for most of the 1615 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,640 Speaker 9: thirty years, first thirty years of Super Bowl history, the 1616 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,719 Speaker 9: price was the same for each seat in the house. 1617 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,360 Speaker 9: It didn't matter what level until finally after about Super 1618 01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 9: Bowl thirty they changed that. But when the Bears won 1619 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,800 Speaker 9: the Super Bowl, face value seventy five bucks. Twenty years later, 1620 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 9: face value was seven hundred bucks. So yes, things have changed, 1621 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,600 Speaker 9: as they have for the national anthem singer and for 1622 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,320 Speaker 9: the halftime shows. I mean one of the early Super Bowls, 1623 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 9: the halftime entertainment was Carol Channing, granted a Broadway legend, 1624 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,839 Speaker 9: God bless her, but for crying out loud, Carol Channing, 1625 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,400 Speaker 9: Are you kidding? There was the year before that Anita 1626 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:34,080 Speaker 9: Bryant singing the national anthem. They for Super Bowl in LA. 1627 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 9: Who did the national anthem? But the bands of the 1628 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,680 Speaker 9: universities of Michigan and Arizona, and they were the halftime 1629 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,800 Speaker 9: entertainment as well. Even for a while they didn't used 1630 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,639 Speaker 9: to bring anybody out for the coin toss but the 1631 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,880 Speaker 9: referee and the players, the captains. Finally, by Super Bowl 1632 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,960 Speaker 9: twelve they had the legendary Red Grange out at the 1633 01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 9: center of the field helping with the coin toss. And 1634 01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,400 Speaker 9: then the three years after that they had from the 1635 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,040 Speaker 9: families of Hallis, Rooney and Lombardi. So they really got 1636 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,120 Speaker 9: things going. But it's sunny this weekend in Las Vegas, 1637 01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,040 Speaker 9: and the stadium tomorrow does have a roof, although that 1638 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,840 Speaker 9: roof did leak in September caused a brief delay in 1639 01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,559 Speaker 9: the UNLV football opener. But it's an indoor stadium, but 1640 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 9: it does have a grass field. The NFL is using 1641 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,639 Speaker 9: grass from the same North Carolina farm that the forty 1642 01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,120 Speaker 9: nine ers get their stadium grass from. I bring this 1643 01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:27,599 Speaker 9: up because the way they do the grass field there 1644 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,760 Speaker 9: in Vegas for Raiders games is kind of like what 1645 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,799 Speaker 9: Arizona does for Cardinals games and who hosted the Super 1646 01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,960 Speaker 9: Bowl last year. Arizona and the league grass field there 1647 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,519 Speaker 9: did not get good reviews. Lots of slipping a year 1648 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:43,720 Speaker 9: ago that was reportedly from overwatering outside. So even though 1649 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,320 Speaker 9: we've had rain in Vegas early in the week, I've 1650 01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 9: assumed that the field, which sits outside on its own, 1651 01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,680 Speaker 9: has had time to dry. What they do is this 1652 01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 9: entire football field of grass is on an enormous tray 1653 01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:01,400 Speaker 9: and it gets wheeled in on rails moved indoors over 1654 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,960 Speaker 9: the one hundred and twenty yard stadium floor. So they 1655 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,880 Speaker 9: can't in Vegas use a grass field for Raiders and 1656 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,600 Speaker 9: a turf field for UNLV, for example. So I'll be 1657 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,960 Speaker 9: looking at the field conditions. And finally, the referee tomorrow 1658 01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,240 Speaker 9: is going to be Bill Vinovitch, who was the referee 1659 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,639 Speaker 9: for the forty nine Ers Chief Super Bowl four years ago. 1660 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,559 Speaker 9: But he has an all new on field crew now. 1661 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,280 Speaker 9: This is a guy who in the early eighties was 1662 01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,599 Speaker 9: a Division III football player at University of San Diego 1663 01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:32,120 Speaker 9: where Jim Harbaugh later was coach. This guy started as 1664 01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,840 Speaker 9: an NFL official on the field over twenty years ago, 1665 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,200 Speaker 9: but it looked like his career was over about two 1666 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,760 Speaker 9: thousand and six because Bill Vinovitch was working out on 1667 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,280 Speaker 9: a treadmill, felt severe back pain, thought he'd hurt himself 1668 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,960 Speaker 9: while working it out, went to the doctor and said, hey, 1669 01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,120 Speaker 9: told him as a patient, your life is in danger 1670 01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:53,120 Speaker 9: aortic aneurism. And he had to retire from the NFL 1671 01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:57,559 Speaker 9: on field due to his heart condition, eventually open heart surgery, 1672 01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,759 Speaker 9: and five years later got back on the field. 1673 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,400 Speaker 2: Incredible stuff to say. You're glad he's happy and healthy 1674 01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:05,599 Speaker 2: and he will be on the field tomorrow night. Fox 1675 01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,479 Speaker 2: Sports radio erintors Jason Martin broadcasting live for the tyreck 1676 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,879 Speaker 2: dot com studios. Do you have one hour left plenty 1677 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,000 Speaker 2: more of the Big Game to talk about, maybe even 1678 01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:17,719 Speaker 2: hit on one quick college football topic. It is a Busy, 1679 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 2: Busy Saturday and Sunday in the NFL erin Torris, Jason 1680 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,879 Speaker 2: Martin One hour left, Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in Everybody, 1681 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:31,080 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Live eron Torris. Jason Martin 1682 01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:35,599 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tire dot Com studios tyreck dot com. 1683 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,599 Speaker 2: We'll help you get there, and I'm matched election fast 1684 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,600 Speaker 2: free shipping, free road hazard protection at over ten thousand 1685 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,800 Speaker 2: recommended installers tyreck dot com. 1686 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:51,000 Speaker 3: The Way tire Buying should be our three of the show. 1687 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,320 Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fraddo Show will follow us 1688 01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:55,760 Speaker 2: at the top of the hour. We are taking you 1689 01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:59,120 Speaker 2: up until two am Eastern time. And you know Bernie, 1690 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,679 Speaker 2: who is in the center of it all, the belly 1691 01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:03,320 Speaker 2: of the beast. You know he's gonna have a lot 1692 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:09,439 Speaker 2: of good stuff to discuss. Jason, do want to get 1693 01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,000 Speaker 2: back to the super Bowl in just a minute, but 1694 01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,320 Speaker 2: just five minutes on what was kind of an interesting 1695 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 2: college football topic. We were gonna talk about it in 1696 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,080 Speaker 2: an hour two, but we actually spent most of our 1697 01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:21,439 Speaker 2: one talking college basketball. 1698 01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,960 Speaker 3: If you missed it. Matt Paynter, head coach of the 1699 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:25,240 Speaker 3: Purdue boiler Makers, joined us. 1700 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:28,360 Speaker 2: He had a lot to say, including some stuff about 1701 01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,679 Speaker 2: how he feels about people that believe that his team 1702 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,040 Speaker 2: is unfairly refereed. If you missed any of that, make 1703 01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,160 Speaker 2: sure to go back and download the podcast. But Jason, 1704 01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:43,280 Speaker 2: really quick. Yesterday Friday, we had some really big and 1705 01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,679 Speaker 2: somewhat surprising college football news. We knew that Chip Kelly 1706 01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:52,560 Speaker 2: was looking to get out of UCLA, interviewed for multiple 1707 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:58,080 Speaker 2: coordinator jobs Washington Commanders, Seattle Seahawks, but with Bill O'Brien 1708 01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:02,599 Speaker 2: leaving Ohio State to take the Boston College job, chip 1709 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:06,519 Speaker 2: Kelly left a sitting Power five head coaching job to 1710 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,720 Speaker 2: take a coordinator position at Ohio State. I have a 1711 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 2: bunch of thoughts, but what were your reactions when you 1712 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:12,840 Speaker 2: saw that news, Jason? 1713 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:17,519 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean remember towards the end of the year, 1714 01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,960 Speaker 4: he was just kind of throwing off anybody that suggested 1715 01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:24,600 Speaker 4: he wouldn't be at UCLA next year, Like it just 1716 01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,920 Speaker 4: seemed like there was smoke there and then there wasn't. 1717 01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,040 Speaker 4: He just kind of tried to shut it down, and 1718 01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:30,960 Speaker 4: then he leaves. I think it's more fascinating than he 1719 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,720 Speaker 4: left to go be an OC. Sure he didn't leave 1720 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:35,519 Speaker 4: for another head coaching job. He left to be an 1721 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:41,400 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator obviously at one of the great football institutions 1722 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,880 Speaker 4: of all time. But you would think it's a step down, 1723 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:50,120 Speaker 4: but because it's Ohio State, and I'm just I don't 1724 01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,800 Speaker 4: know why I would think this, But I mean, do 1725 01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,799 Speaker 4: you want to get into that pipeline if you're Chip Kelly, 1726 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,200 Speaker 4: to put yourself kind of back in the mix, to 1727 01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,240 Speaker 4: step down for a little while, to maybe step back 1728 01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,280 Speaker 4: up into a different job. I don't know all the 1729 01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,519 Speaker 4: background to everything that happened at UCLA, but I could 1730 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,720 Speaker 4: certainly say that it has not worked out the way 1731 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:09,639 Speaker 4: that he hoped it would. 1732 01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,719 Speaker 3: It didn't work out the way anybody hoped it would. 1733 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the only the only real takeaway that 1734 01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:24,120 Speaker 2: I have is very unique situation where it was seemed 1735 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,960 Speaker 2: pretty obvious that he was at the very least entering 1736 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,800 Speaker 2: next year on the hot seat. There were mixed reports 1737 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,519 Speaker 2: on if they tried to fire him after this year. 1738 01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 2: You know, you hear all sorts of things. Who knows 1739 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,880 Speaker 2: what the exact truth is. And I think it's a 1740 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:41,080 Speaker 2: unique situation where he has so much money he doesn't 1741 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,680 Speaker 2: have to stick around and wait to get fired and 1742 01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:46,080 Speaker 2: collect a buyout and I don't think this, to me 1743 01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:50,600 Speaker 2: is any sort of like career trajectory, you know, do 1744 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:52,720 Speaker 2: two years at Ohio State and then get another head 1745 01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:56,400 Speaker 2: coaching job, although maybe that's the way it works. I 1746 01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,559 Speaker 2: just think he's a dude. You know, he's getting up 1747 01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,519 Speaker 2: there in age, He's made a ton of money, and 1748 01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,639 Speaker 2: you know, I think it was the rare situation where, 1749 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,920 Speaker 2: first of all, like, let let's call a spade a spade, 1750 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,120 Speaker 2: he'll be making very good money as the offensive coordinator 1751 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,000 Speaker 2: at Ohio State. Yeah, which, h yeah, I was gonna say, 1752 01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:15,760 Speaker 2: I know, you know that, but I mean, this isn't 1753 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,120 Speaker 2: taking an offensive coordinator job at you know, Kent State 1754 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,479 Speaker 2: or something like that. But I just think he knew 1755 01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,519 Speaker 2: he was on the hot seat. There's reports about how 1756 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:29,120 Speaker 2: much he and the ad got along. You know, I've 1757 01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,360 Speaker 2: heard that wasn't as bad as people make it out 1758 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,800 Speaker 2: to be, But only those two guys know the truth. 1759 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:34,639 Speaker 3: And I'm not here to speculate. 1760 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,800 Speaker 2: On that same time, it was clear the fans had 1761 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:41,320 Speaker 2: certainly turned on him, and so I think if it's hey, 1762 01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,360 Speaker 2: I can wait another year and get a four million 1763 01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,120 Speaker 2: dollar buyout plus the salary that I have this year, 1764 01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,439 Speaker 2: or I can just take two million to go to 1765 01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,479 Speaker 2: Ohio State, Like I don't think it's a move that 1766 01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,519 Speaker 2: many others would make. But he's sixty years old, he's 1767 01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,439 Speaker 2: made his money, he has no kids. You know, he's 1768 01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,719 Speaker 2: got two NFL buyouts that came his way. Like money 1769 01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,640 Speaker 2: isn't an issue. And it was still surreal though to 1770 01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:06,880 Speaker 2: actually see him do it. 1771 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,519 Speaker 4: And I'll say, I'll say this one other thing, just 1772 01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,880 Speaker 4: because it came to mind, you know what's not gonna 1773 01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:17,200 Speaker 4: be fun next year being UCLA in the Big Ten? 1774 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,720 Speaker 1: Like that just got real hard, real fast. Like the 1775 01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:22,719 Speaker 1: PAC TWELV was a great. 1776 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,840 Speaker 4: League this past season, but now you're gonna add into that, 1777 01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,160 Speaker 4: we know some of the schools in the Big Ten 1778 01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,720 Speaker 4: that you're gonna add into that. Your offense is going 1779 01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:35,200 Speaker 4: to be facing annoying IOWA defenses and things like that. 1780 01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,439 Speaker 4: Like if you were gonna jump off that ship now 1781 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,400 Speaker 4: because you just realize, all right, this is not I'm 1782 01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:42,600 Speaker 4: not gonna be able to win the other way I 1783 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,320 Speaker 4: thought I was gonna be able to The support's not good. 1784 01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,320 Speaker 4: Finances are in the toilet, not getting along with this 1785 01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 4: person of that person, whatever it might be. This is 1786 01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,400 Speaker 4: the time to get out from underneath it before it 1787 01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:59,360 Speaker 4: really goes south when everything gets harder next year, let 1788 01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,000 Speaker 4: me just go to the top of that conference as 1789 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,240 Speaker 4: opposed to being a bottom feeder, so that I'm not 1790 01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,600 Speaker 4: here when this thing becomes the next Nebraska. 1791 01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 6: No. 1792 01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,400 Speaker 2: And that's a great point too, is that it only 1793 01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:13,719 Speaker 2: gets harder the resource. You know, listen, a great school. 1794 01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:19,840 Speaker 2: I think that with the right person the money, that 1795 01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,920 Speaker 2: money could probably be raised. But this is the new 1796 01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:24,840 Speaker 2: and that's the other thing too, And I think it 1797 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:29,040 Speaker 2: is important to note there probably is not a worse 1798 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,040 Speaker 2: person to be your head coach in the modern era 1799 01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,080 Speaker 2: than Chip Kelly, not because he's not a good football coach, 1800 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,920 Speaker 2: but being a head coach in major college football right now, 1801 01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,519 Speaker 2: it's about being It's about football share a little bit, 1802 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,320 Speaker 2: but it's about kind of pandering to eighteen nineteen twenty 1803 01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:48,200 Speaker 2: year old kids, recruiting, but then re recruiting your entire 1804 01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,280 Speaker 2: roster and convincing a bunch of kids that are gonna 1805 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,439 Speaker 2: leave that they should stay. And it is about raising 1806 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,639 Speaker 2: money because this is a pay for play world now, 1807 01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:01,120 Speaker 2: and so I think that every time something like this happens, 1808 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,320 Speaker 2: you know, everyone tries to make it like the big 1809 01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,000 Speaker 2: you know, this is this and this is the downfall 1810 01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,679 Speaker 2: of that. And like when Jeff Hafley, the Boston College coach, 1811 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,160 Speaker 2: left for an NFL defensive coordinator job last week, it 1812 01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:13,080 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I mean. 1813 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,320 Speaker 3: This is proof nobody wants to coach college football anymore. 1814 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I mean he was coaching the worst 1815 01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,400 Speaker 2: job probably in Power five was twenty two and twenty 1816 01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,160 Speaker 2: six as a head coach, is probably getting fired next 1817 01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,280 Speaker 2: year anyway. So he goes same you know, probably same salary, 1818 01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,880 Speaker 2: probably two three years runway with the Green Bay Packers, 1819 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,680 Speaker 2: and if he does well, who knows, maybe gets an 1820 01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:31,599 Speaker 2: NFL head coaching job. 1821 01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,400 Speaker 3: And so I think that was overblown of. 1822 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,439 Speaker 2: Like, oh, it means this, and it's like, I don't 1823 01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,120 Speaker 2: think it really means anything other than that. Frankly, the 1824 01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,840 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator job is probably better than 1825 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,280 Speaker 2: the Boston College head coaching job. And so I think 1826 01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,280 Speaker 2: it's the same with Chip Kelly. Is I think people 1827 01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:50,040 Speaker 2: want to make it into something. Is it an indictment 1828 01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,800 Speaker 2: on modern college football? Is it an indictment on UCLA? 1829 01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,040 Speaker 2: Is it an indictment on Chip Kelly? I just think 1830 01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,200 Speaker 2: it was kind of a perfect storm of like I said, 1831 01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,600 Speaker 2: a coach that probably isn't really equipped to be a 1832 01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 2: coach in monorn College football on the hot seat. Reports 1833 01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,280 Speaker 2: are he didn't get along with the administration, the fans 1834 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,719 Speaker 2: had turned on him. Can go to a place where 1835 01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 2: you can make really good money as a coordinator. A 1836 01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,799 Speaker 2: lot of the off the field stuff is off your shoulders. 1837 01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:16,719 Speaker 2: It is worth noting by the way he and Ryan 1838 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,680 Speaker 2: Day are really close. Ryan Day worked for him in 1839 01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 2: San Francisco. I just think it's one of those things 1840 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:23,439 Speaker 2: where again I think people want to make it an 1841 01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,599 Speaker 2: indictment on what does this mean about Chip Kelly? 1842 01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:26,799 Speaker 3: What does it mean about UCLA? 1843 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,080 Speaker 2: It means a lot, But it also doesn't mean as 1844 01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:31,960 Speaker 2: much as probably a lot of people make it out 1845 01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:32,120 Speaker 2: to be. 1846 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:33,960 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, No, I think that all makes sense. 1847 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,760 Speaker 4: I don't know what I really have to add to it. 1848 01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,960 Speaker 4: I think that what you're I mean, that case is logical. 1849 01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,000 Speaker 4: And when you look at everything with the landscape and 1850 01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,120 Speaker 4: where chip Kelly finds himself at now, I mean, does 1851 01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:46,559 Speaker 4: he really even want to be a head coach at 1852 01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,000 Speaker 4: this point? If he can make some good money, be 1853 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:51,000 Speaker 4: around some friends and look, it could reopen some opportunities. 1854 01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,439 Speaker 4: It might like the fire back under him in the 1855 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,599 Speaker 4: right way to be in a change of scenery and 1856 01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,400 Speaker 4: do what he does best, which is running offense. And 1857 01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,799 Speaker 4: you know the other thing is that's a good step 1858 01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:04,960 Speaker 4: from going for Bill O'Brien to Chip Kelly. As far 1859 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,960 Speaker 4: as I'm concerned, Oh, you can't get to give me 1860 01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,439 Speaker 4: one shot. I had to get the shot in because 1861 01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:11,320 Speaker 4: it is a Sunday. 1862 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,880 Speaker 2: Well, I will say really quick, we don't need to 1863 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,800 Speaker 2: nerd out on college football here the day before the 1864 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:16,320 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. 1865 01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:17,080 Speaker 3: We'll get back to it. 1866 01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,840 Speaker 2: But I will say, like I've had a lot of 1867 01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:24,840 Speaker 2: I've listened to a lot of smart football people because 1868 01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,360 Speaker 2: Chip Kelly, like we think about his offenses, but it's 1869 01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,960 Speaker 2: a run based offensive dating back to the Oregon stuff, 1870 01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,559 Speaker 2: and like the tools and the pieces that he will 1871 01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:37,559 Speaker 2: have access to. I'm not enough of a scheme nerd 1872 01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,759 Speaker 2: to know what he's capable of doing. But they basically 1873 01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:45,440 Speaker 2: bring back, outside of Marvin Harrison, basically the entire offensive 1874 01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:50,240 Speaker 2: skill position group. They add quinn Sewn Jenkins, the running 1875 01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,880 Speaker 2: back from Old Miss who rushed for twenty five hundred 1876 01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,720 Speaker 2: yards over the last two years. So, by the way, 1877 01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,800 Speaker 2: maybe this is just the role that he has meant 1878 01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:58,880 Speaker 2: to have. Maybe it's just not meant to be a 1879 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:00,559 Speaker 2: head coach, but it could be exciting. 1880 01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,280 Speaker 1: Maybe not anymore. I mean, certainly he was for a time. 1881 01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,360 Speaker 1: Totally fair, totally fair. So all right. 1882 01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,240 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio Ertors Jason Martin. 1883 01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:12,200 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Tyraq dot com studios. 1884 01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:15,720 Speaker 2: It is Super Bowl Sunday on the East Coast and 1885 01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:16,719 Speaker 2: Central time zones. 1886 01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,559 Speaker 3: We have plenty more to discuss coming up. Should match. 1887 01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:20,760 Speaker 2: By the way, at the end of the first year, 1888 01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,920 Speaker 2: Discover credit cards automatically double all the cash back you've earned. 1889 01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,479 Speaker 2: That's right, everything you've earned doubled. Seriously see terms and 1890 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,839 Speaker 2: check it out for yourself at Discover dot com. Slash match. 1891 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,800 Speaker 2: The San Francisco forty nine Ers will be your Super 1892 01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,240 Speaker 2: Bowl champion, if. 1893 01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:42,200 Speaker 3: We'll discuss that next. Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody. 1894 01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,680 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Ertorris Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the 1895 01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:50,960 Speaker 2: Tirack dot Com Studios. 1896 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:51,599 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. 1897 01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:57,519 Speaker 2: We are now seventeen hours or so away from kicking 1898 01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,519 Speaker 2: off between the forty nine Ers and the Kansaity Chiefs, 1899 01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,280 Speaker 2: second time in four years that we have this matchup. 1900 01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:07,040 Speaker 2: Jason let's start with the San Francisco forty nine ers, 1901 01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:11,040 Speaker 2: because I think there is one thing that is crucial 1902 01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:14,920 Speaker 2: to them winning this game. But before I get to it, 1903 01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:18,439 Speaker 2: what do you believe is the singular or could be 1904 01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,960 Speaker 2: more than one X factor to San Francisco winning this game? 1905 01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:22,920 Speaker 1: Chris Jones? 1906 01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:28,960 Speaker 4: Honestly, I think that if they can you're talking about 1907 01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,960 Speaker 4: San Francisco winning the game. I think it is can 1908 01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:35,880 Speaker 4: they get to Patrick Mahomes, period, point blank? That is 1909 01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,519 Speaker 4: how Tampa Bay beat them, And that, to me is 1910 01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:42,000 Speaker 4: the is the blueprint to beat this guy, especially at 1911 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:42,599 Speaker 4: this point. 1912 01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,000 Speaker 1: So I look at Jones and I mean, yeah. 1913 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,880 Speaker 4: Obviously the other guys, if he's able to get the 1914 01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,720 Speaker 4: ball off, can you get him to get the ball 1915 01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:50,720 Speaker 4: out of his hands a little faster than he wants to, 1916 01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:54,519 Speaker 4: and can you maybe take advantage of an errant thrower 1917 01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:55,960 Speaker 4: where he's trying to do too much? 1918 01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,439 Speaker 1: That's really that's that's it. To me, that's your X factor. 1919 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:01,639 Speaker 4: Can talk about the offense, So we could talk about 1920 01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:04,360 Speaker 4: the obvious things all day long, But to me, if 1921 01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,080 Speaker 4: you can't get to Patrick Mahomes, you flat out cannot 1922 01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,920 Speaker 4: beat You can't beat the guy. And so I think 1923 01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:14,000 Speaker 4: that it's I think that if you can actually do 1924 01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:16,200 Speaker 4: something I said Chris Jones, I should have said for 1925 01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,080 Speaker 4: San Francisco, size just getting to Patrick Mahomes, period. But 1926 01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:20,840 Speaker 4: the X factor to me in the game is Chris 1927 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:24,400 Speaker 4: Jones because he can play the Aaron Donald role in 1928 01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:28,439 Speaker 4: reverse here. And if he can force brock Party into 1929 01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:31,000 Speaker 4: some bad throws, which we know he's capable of, because 1930 01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,639 Speaker 4: he can get into that gunslinger mentality, this thing could 1931 01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,280 Speaker 4: get fairly ugly. But for San Francisco, it is flat 1932 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:38,680 Speaker 4: out getting to Patrick Mahomes. 1933 01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,200 Speaker 2: So I actually, I actually disagree. I think it's the 1934 01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:46,960 Speaker 2: exact opposite. Mahomes hasn't been the reason they're in these games. 1935 01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,479 Speaker 2: Isn't the reason they're here. I mean, he is a reason, 1936 01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:54,000 Speaker 2: but I think it's because of that Kansas City defense. 1937 01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:58,000 Speaker 2: Zero points allowed against Miami in the second half, zero 1938 01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:00,799 Speaker 2: points allowed against Baltimore in the second half, an early 1939 01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:04,320 Speaker 2: touchdown against Kansas City, but outside of that, or against Buffalo, 1940 01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:07,040 Speaker 2: excuse me, outside of that, no touch no points allowed. 1941 01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,120 Speaker 2: And so when I look at what the Chiefs have 1942 01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:14,320 Speaker 2: done in the second half defensively, and when I look 1943 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:19,040 Speaker 2: at what San Francisco has done, offensively in the first half, 1944 01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:22,160 Speaker 2: which not sure. If you remember the NFC Championship game, Jason, 1945 01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,479 Speaker 2: it was not very good, nor was it against the 1946 01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:28,800 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers. To me, the X factor for San 1947 01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:32,439 Speaker 2: Francisco winning this game. Everybody want to talk about Rockberdy, 1948 01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:36,320 Speaker 2: this and that and whatever. I think they got to score, 1949 01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:40,040 Speaker 2: and they got to move the ball on Kansas City, 1950 01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,240 Speaker 2: and they got to put up points early. Because with 1951 01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:46,320 Speaker 2: the way that Kansas City's defense has played this entire postseason, 1952 01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,839 Speaker 2: I don't think you can expect to fall down twenty 1953 01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:53,280 Speaker 2: four to two seven or whatever the number is double 1954 01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:57,519 Speaker 2: figures in the first half and rally to win one 1955 01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:01,960 Speaker 2: because you got an all time on the other side 1956 01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,719 Speaker 2: of the football, and when he needs to score points, 1957 01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,000 Speaker 2: if he needs to put up points, he's obviously more 1958 01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:10,519 Speaker 2: than capable of it. But I think more than that, 1959 01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,680 Speaker 2: that defense has been so lights out. You're not scoring 1960 01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,160 Speaker 2: what they score twenty four points in the second half, 1961 01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:19,880 Speaker 2: even more twenty I think twenty four points in the 1962 01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:24,000 Speaker 2: second half against against Detroit. You're not doing that against 1963 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,599 Speaker 2: the against this Kansas City defense, not with the way 1964 01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,360 Speaker 2: they're playing. And so to me, the X factor for 1965 01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:33,080 Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers. I think you have 1966 01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:36,760 Speaker 2: to score and score early, because if you think this 1967 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:38,080 Speaker 2: is gonna be one of these games you can just 1968 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,200 Speaker 2: come back from a double digit second half deficit. 1969 01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,080 Speaker 3: I just don't see that, Jason, I just don't see Yeah. 1970 01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:45,280 Speaker 4: I mean I agree with that point. I mean, certainly 1971 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,280 Speaker 4: you're gonna have to score, but if you can't get 1972 01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:51,160 Speaker 4: to Mahomes, I don't I don't think you can outscore 1973 01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,760 Speaker 4: what he does in these kind of scenarios. He was 1974 01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,800 Speaker 4: outplayed last year technically against Jalen Hurts, but Hurts made 1975 01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,960 Speaker 4: one mistake, Mahomes made none, and the Chiefs won the 1976 01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,479 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. I think it comes down to I don't 1977 01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:06,960 Speaker 4: think it's as simple as which quarterback makes fewer mistakes 1978 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:11,479 Speaker 4: in this situation. I think it is it is really 1979 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,839 Speaker 4: about making sure Patrick Mahomes is as uncomfortable as possible. 1980 01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:20,120 Speaker 4: And really the reason why I just cannot get watching 1981 01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:24,160 Speaker 4: that blowout against Tampa Bay out of my head, watching 1982 01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:26,599 Speaker 4: that game and watching the way they made him run 1983 01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:30,599 Speaker 4: nearly three hundred yards east to west in that game. 1984 01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:35,559 Speaker 4: Just it was a brutalization. And they retooled the offensive 1985 01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,840 Speaker 4: line afterwards, but the offensive line this year has not 1986 01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,559 Speaker 4: been quite as dominant as it's been over the last 1987 01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:44,240 Speaker 4: couple of seasons for Kansas City. And you look at 1988 01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,800 Speaker 4: what happened with San Francisco's defense in this postseason and 1989 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,000 Speaker 4: even John Lynch kind of calling him out and saying 1990 01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:53,280 Speaker 4: it's been addressed. The effort issue has been addressed. Me 1991 01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,080 Speaker 4: and Steve Wilkes both we've adjusted with the team. This 1992 01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:59,320 Speaker 4: will not happen again. So basically he admitted, yeah, there 1993 01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,719 Speaker 4: was a problem here. We needed to address this problem. 1994 01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,679 Speaker 4: If they come out there with fire to show something 1995 01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,120 Speaker 4: and Nick Bosa is able to get there, if some 1996 01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,280 Speaker 4: of these guys are able to cause problems and Mahomes 1997 01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:14,400 Speaker 4: has to throw the ball off schedule half second before 1998 01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:18,040 Speaker 4: he wants to off and maybe late off that throwing platform, 1999 01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,400 Speaker 4: then you got Fred Warner stepping in front of a 2000 01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:22,400 Speaker 4: pass here and there that you. 2001 01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:24,920 Speaker 1: Know, that becomes the moment they've got. 2002 01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,600 Speaker 4: They have got to get to Patrick Mahomes, Like, I 2003 01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:29,920 Speaker 4: just don't see a universe where they're just going to 2004 01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:33,280 Speaker 4: tear into Kansas City offensively. But if you go back 2005 01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:37,280 Speaker 4: and you look at the AFC Championship Game, uh with 2006 01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,040 Speaker 4: Kansas City and Baltimore. 2007 01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:43,320 Speaker 1: You your point stands. I think both these things are true. 2008 01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,519 Speaker 4: But when you really look at that game, Baltimore couldn't 2009 01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,760 Speaker 4: take advantage of what their defense was able to do 2010 01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,879 Speaker 4: in the second half in terms of at least limiting points, 2011 01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:57,320 Speaker 4: limiting possessions and things like that. But early in the 2012 01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:59,519 Speaker 4: game you saw that as well. So I mean I 2013 01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,200 Speaker 4: think that I think that San Francisco definitely can't fall 2014 01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:04,120 Speaker 4: behind the way they have fallen behind some of these 2015 01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:06,200 Speaker 4: other games, because Kantasy is not going to let you 2016 01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,720 Speaker 4: back into it that way. But I think the defense 2017 01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:12,519 Speaker 4: just making Patrick mahomes life an utter disaster, just making 2018 01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,559 Speaker 4: it a nightmare scenario for him. 2019 01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:16,719 Speaker 1: I think that's their pathway to victory. 2020 01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:20,040 Speaker 2: I know you're not a former coach or a former player, 2021 01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:23,400 Speaker 2: not a scheme expert that I know of. Have you 2022 01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:26,240 Speaker 2: got any explanation as to what has happened with this defense, 2023 01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,280 Speaker 2: because like you said, you know, I know John Lynch 2024 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:30,519 Speaker 2: has publicly talked about it, but they have just come 2025 01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:34,640 Speaker 2: out so flat at a time of the year that 2026 01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:36,320 Speaker 2: you shouldn't be like, these are the biggest games of 2027 01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:38,439 Speaker 2: the year. You should be locked in, you should be focused. 2028 01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,360 Speaker 2: But twenty four points in the first half to the 2029 01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:43,800 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions struggled against the Green Bay Packers. Have we 2030 01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:47,719 Speaker 2: gotten any explanation as to why this team has struggled 2031 01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:49,280 Speaker 2: the way that they have over the last couple weeks. 2032 01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,759 Speaker 1: Not really, I mean you have, I've seen. 2033 01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:57,320 Speaker 4: I didn't realize just how negative their own fan base is. 2034 01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:01,720 Speaker 4: But going to some of the gamers aults, like at 2035 01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:04,000 Speaker 4: the Athletic or something, and going to the comments section 2036 01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:05,960 Speaker 4: and just kind of looking at what Niners fans are 2037 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:07,559 Speaker 4: saying about their own team. A lot of them are 2038 01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:10,479 Speaker 4: like Nick Bose is overpaid, Fred Warner's washed. 2039 01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,240 Speaker 1: All of this kind of stuff is out there. 2040 01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:14,599 Speaker 4: It was a lot more toxic than I was expecting, 2041 01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:18,760 Speaker 4: quite frankly, and many people wanting Steve Wilks fired all 2042 01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:22,160 Speaker 4: through the playoffs before the playoffs, take to play calling 2043 01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,200 Speaker 4: away from him, going to this game, all that kind 2044 01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:28,040 Speaker 4: of stuff. So there's there are seventeen thousand reasons, according 2045 01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:29,759 Speaker 4: to their own fans, as. 2046 01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:30,559 Speaker 1: To what's going wrong. 2047 01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:32,920 Speaker 4: But I still look at that field and see a 2048 01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,320 Speaker 4: lot of talent on it and a lot of guys 2049 01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:37,479 Speaker 4: that I would not want to match up with if 2050 01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,880 Speaker 4: I was an offense, and I just the fact that 2051 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:46,559 Speaker 4: they addressed an effort situation is odd, and even more 2052 01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:48,920 Speaker 4: so that they admitted to it and when they were 2053 01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:51,479 Speaker 4: asked a question didn't shy away from it or give 2054 01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,200 Speaker 4: a coach speak answer, said no, yep, we addressed it. 2055 01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:59,240 Speaker 4: How do you not have effort in the NFC Championship game? 2056 01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:01,400 Speaker 4: I mean, you came out, you won the game after that, 2057 01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:05,000 Speaker 4: and then you had to address an effort issue with who, 2058 01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:07,240 Speaker 4: Like I didn't go back and watch the tape to 2059 01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:10,320 Speaker 4: see who wasn't legging it out or whatever like that, 2060 01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:14,080 Speaker 4: But that was definitely a red flag. But it also 2061 01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:15,800 Speaker 4: that's the worst thing I'd want to hear if I 2062 01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,360 Speaker 4: was a Chiefs fan, because you can better believe that 2063 01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,960 Speaker 4: they are not going to do that again, simply because 2064 01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:26,400 Speaker 4: from a business perspective, it's not a smart decision when 2065 01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:30,040 Speaker 4: your general manager and your defensive coordinator, everybody's coming to 2066 01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,400 Speaker 4: you and saying, hey, you need to play harder. So 2067 01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:34,680 Speaker 4: it seems like just to make a statement and make 2068 01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,599 Speaker 4: sure that that noise is quieted down, you may come 2069 01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:40,479 Speaker 4: out to show what you're actually capable of, and that 2070 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,799 Speaker 4: is that's a dangerous proposition for anybody facing that defense. 2071 01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,120 Speaker 2: The other thing I would say in terms of keys 2072 01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:49,280 Speaker 2: for San Francisco, and this is super obvious and if 2073 01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:52,240 Speaker 2: there was an easy explanation for it, it would have 2074 01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:56,639 Speaker 2: been addressed. In the AFC Championship game, I could not believe, 2075 01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,720 Speaker 2: and I know I'm not the only one you know 2076 01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:03,280 Speaker 2: this is obvious. But like the ability to continually get 2077 01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:08,240 Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey open against the Baltimore Ravens when you know 2078 01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,040 Speaker 2: he's their only threat, Caadarius Toni is not even playing. 2079 01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:16,479 Speaker 2: The other wide receivers are playing. Well, that's like another 2080 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,960 Speaker 2: thing is stopping Travis Kelsey. I think the other thing, 2081 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,320 Speaker 2: too is if you do fall behind. This goes to 2082 01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:26,320 Speaker 2: both the NFC and the AFC Championship Game. In the 2083 01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:30,160 Speaker 2: AFC Championship game, it was so obvious that the Baltimore 2084 01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:33,960 Speaker 2: Ravens got scared and just completely went off script right away. 2085 01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,759 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the stat was six total rushing 2086 01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:40,280 Speaker 2: attempts for their true running backs, basically rushing attempts that 2087 01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:43,240 Speaker 2: aren't Lamar Jackson. But then I think it's the opposite 2088 01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:46,559 Speaker 2: was also true in the NFC Championship game, which was 2089 01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:49,600 Speaker 2: that you know, I do give San Francisco credit of 2090 01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:52,000 Speaker 2: they were down twenty four to seven, and they stayed 2091 01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:53,880 Speaker 2: true to who they were. They stayed true to running 2092 01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:57,360 Speaker 2: the football. Now, they obviously had some things fall their 2093 01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:00,439 Speaker 2: way in terms of Jamiir Gibbs fumble and the other 2094 01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:02,439 Speaker 2: things that happened, But I think that's another factor to 2095 01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,479 Speaker 2: me as well, Jason is like, you know, if you're 2096 01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,880 Speaker 2: San Francisco, you can't get off script. You can't turn 2097 01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:11,719 Speaker 2: into somebody else that you're not if you do fall behind. 2098 01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:14,040 Speaker 2: Because that was I thought the single bit, and we 2099 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,440 Speaker 2: talked about this last We've been single biggest mistake Baltimore 2100 01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:19,840 Speaker 2: made was like, what are you guys doing? Like, why 2101 01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:23,680 Speaker 2: are you trying to turn Lamar into whoever? You know, 2102 01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,679 Speaker 2: this isn't Texas Tech football. You don't have to throw 2103 01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:31,160 Speaker 2: the ball sixty times a game, And that's what they did. 2104 01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,680 Speaker 2: And I just don't think San Francisco can panic if 2105 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:34,519 Speaker 2: they do fall down. 2106 01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:38,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, whatever got you there, you got to 2107 01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:41,720 Speaker 4: keep doing that. It doesn't mean you don't make adjustments 2108 01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:43,960 Speaker 4: at halftime if some of your play calls aren't working 2109 01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:47,640 Speaker 4: exactly right. But whatever your identity is, you've got to 2110 01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:50,559 Speaker 4: stick to that. And you're absolutely right. Baltimore got away 2111 01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:55,640 Speaker 4: from Baltimore Football. They panicked. They look like they just 2112 01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:58,200 Speaker 4: weren't ready for that moment, which was kind of shocking 2113 01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:03,160 Speaker 4: and on and when you had Lamar Jackson being just 2114 01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:06,720 Speaker 4: that inaccurate on that one day, that was enough to 2115 01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:10,040 Speaker 4: get you beaten and really just stimy your offense for 2116 01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:11,479 Speaker 4: sixty full minutes. 2117 01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:14,360 Speaker 1: You certainly can't have that. I think the big. 2118 01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:17,360 Speaker 4: Difference in this game for San Francisco on the offensive 2119 01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:22,200 Speaker 4: side of the ball is McCaffrey. I just McCaffrey could 2120 01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:26,080 Speaker 4: if they win the Super Bowl, the chances McCaffrey is 2121 01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:29,000 Speaker 4: the MVP of the game have to be over fifty 2122 01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:33,679 Speaker 4: percent to me, because it would for them to win. 2123 01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:35,400 Speaker 4: I think he has to have about one hundred and 2124 01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:36,520 Speaker 4: thirty yards. 2125 01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,160 Speaker 3: I don't disagree. 2126 01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,680 Speaker 2: I think I haven't seen anything from Rock Party these 2127 01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:45,559 Speaker 2: playoffs to make me think that they're even going to 2128 01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,200 Speaker 2: let him be in the position to do too much. 2129 01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,160 Speaker 2: And I do think that if San Francisco does win, 2130 01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:52,679 Speaker 2: it is probably should have had you Christian McCaffrey pretty 2131 01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,120 Speaker 2: early in terms of the X factors for San Francisco winning. 2132 01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,640 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Era towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from 2133 01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:00,559 Speaker 2: the tyreck dot Com Studios will come back. We'll talk 2134 01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:04,280 Speaker 2: about what Kansas City needs to do and needs to 2135 01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,479 Speaker 2: do to win sure victory. It's getting laid over here. 2136 01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:09,160 Speaker 2: I apologize. Let's host to the news desk to sega, 2137 01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:09,920 Speaker 2: what is trending? 2138 01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:13,559 Speaker 9: McCaffrey with all the touchdowns this year has saved them, 2139 01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:17,080 Speaker 9: especially in that Green Bay bad weather playoff game. I 2140 01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:19,240 Speaker 9: mean that was a seven to six halftime game. He 2141 01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:21,679 Speaker 9: had two touchdown runs second half, had the game winner 2142 01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,120 Speaker 9: with about a minute to go. It would be rare 2143 01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:27,559 Speaker 9: actually if we had a running back win Super Bowl MVP, 2144 01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:31,639 Speaker 9: because the last was Terrell Davis over twenty five years ago. 2145 01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:34,960 Speaker 9: There have been more defensive players to win Super Bowl 2146 01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,479 Speaker 9: MVP than running backs to do so. 2147 01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:42,519 Speaker 1: Don't you think it would have been Marshawn Lynch? Yeah? 2148 01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:44,880 Speaker 3: Yes, patriotically yeah soon too soon. 2149 01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:45,759 Speaker 1: Sorry. 2150 01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:49,960 Speaker 9: By the way, I go back to our resident Northern 2151 01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:53,080 Speaker 9: California forty nine ers fan Mark Willard, who after their 2152 01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:57,400 Speaker 9: two playoff wins, have said, hey, this was not an 2153 01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:01,320 Speaker 9: enjoyable experience going through those games and they won to advance. 2154 01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:04,200 Speaker 9: And he also said after last weekend they've won two 2155 01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:06,160 Speaker 9: playoff games there in the Super Bowl, and I'm not 2156 01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,800 Speaker 9: sure if they're any good end quote. Yes, San Francisco 2157 01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:12,639 Speaker 9: this postseason, in the two playoff games has allowed twenty 2158 01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,760 Speaker 9: six points a game. If they win it all tomorrow 2159 01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:18,519 Speaker 9: and allow another twenty six or so, that would be 2160 01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,240 Speaker 9: the record for most points per game allowed in the 2161 01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:25,439 Speaker 9: postseason by the Super Bowl champ. Last year, Kansas City 2162 01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:28,880 Speaker 9: allowed twenty five a game, including the high scoring Super Bowl. 2163 01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:32,880 Speaker 9: Tomorrow's game in Las Vegas kicks off at six forty 2164 01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,839 Speaker 9: pm Eastern Time, Super Bowl fifty eight with the Chiefs 2165 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:39,080 Speaker 9: and the forty nine Ers. Kansas City running back Jeric McKinnon, 2166 01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:43,000 Speaker 9: after the groin injury earlier this season, was finally activated 2167 01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:45,679 Speaker 9: off injured reserve today, but he's questionable for the game. 2168 01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,640 Speaker 9: He was limited in practice this past week. McKinnon, the 2169 01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:51,679 Speaker 9: guy who played for San Francisco in twenty twenty. Chiefs, 2170 01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,160 Speaker 9: will be missing. All Pro guard Joe Tooney out again 2171 01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:56,959 Speaker 9: this weekend with the pectoral injury. Today, he was officially 2172 01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:00,000 Speaker 9: placed on IR. The good news is no injury designated 2173 01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:03,639 Speaker 9: any more for Kansas City running back Isaiah Pacheco or 2174 01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:07,640 Speaker 9: for wide receiver Rashi Rice. The age practice fully yesterday. 2175 01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:09,599 Speaker 9: The Chiefs had about a thirty minute walk through at 2176 01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,400 Speaker 9: the stadium today and then the team photo meetings tonight 2177 01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:15,479 Speaker 9: at the team hotel and again sunny weekend in Vegas. 2178 01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,680 Speaker 9: Let's see if the grass is in good condition as 2179 01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:21,360 Speaker 9: they've wheeled it in to the indoor stadium hosting a 2180 01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:23,439 Speaker 9: Super Bowl. Yes, there is a roof, but with a 2181 01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:28,240 Speaker 9: grass field to the NBA, Cleveland has won nine games 2182 01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:30,640 Speaker 9: in a row. In fact, the Cabs have won seventeen 2183 01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:34,400 Speaker 9: of their last eighteen. They dominated at Toronto tonight, led 2184 01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:37,240 Speaker 9: in the second quarter fifty one to twenty eight. Calves 2185 01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:40,400 Speaker 9: won nineteen ninety five, the final wins for New Orleans 2186 01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:43,519 Speaker 9: and Indiana, wins for Atlanta and Golden State, which edge. 2187 01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:46,160 Speaker 9: Phoenix won thirteen one to twelve. Steph Curry with a 2188 01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:51,519 Speaker 9: last second three pointer thirty points in the game for him. Earlier, 2189 01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:54,720 Speaker 9: Charlotte ended a ten game losing streak beating Memphis one 2190 01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,920 Speaker 9: fifteen to one OZH six. Memphis Grizzlies have lost eight 2191 01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:01,479 Speaker 9: in a row. Spurs lost their seven straight, Washington lost 2192 01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:02,320 Speaker 9: at sixth. 2193 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:02,519 Speaker 3: In a row. 2194 01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,680 Speaker 9: Orlando got an overtime win against Chicago, one fourteen to 2195 01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:08,439 Speaker 9: one AW eight. Franz Wagner with thirty six points. In 2196 01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:11,639 Speaker 9: college hoops wins in the top five for Connecticut, Purdue, 2197 01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:15,000 Speaker 9: and number three North Carolina, which won at Miami seventy 2198 01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:18,200 Speaker 9: five seventy two. Hurricanes now six and seven in the ACC. 2199 01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:21,719 Speaker 9: Number four Kansas over Baylor in a close one sixty 2200 01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:25,200 Speaker 9: four sixty one. Baylor with twenty one turnovers more turnovers 2201 01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:28,040 Speaker 9: than Baskets in this game. Number five Houston had to 2202 01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,840 Speaker 9: come back to win at Cincinnati sixty seven sixty two. 2203 01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:34,559 Speaker 9: Texas A and m dominated Number six Tennessee eighty five 2204 01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:38,840 Speaker 9: sixty nine. Marquette came back to beat Saint John's. Arizona 2205 01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:42,360 Speaker 9: dominated at Colorado. Tonight, Duke beat Boston College, and it 2206 01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:45,559 Speaker 9: was Michigan State over number ten Illinois eighty eight to eighty. 2207 01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,800 Speaker 9: The Spartans were six and six in the Big Ten Conference. 2208 01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:52,599 Speaker 9: NHL overtime wins for Carolina at Detroit. The late game 2209 01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:55,240 Speaker 9: in LA went to the Kings four nothing over Edmonton, 2210 01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:59,280 Speaker 9: and Washington won three nothing at Boston. By Thursday, all 2211 01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:03,479 Speaker 9: MLB and catchers will have reported to spring training. Dodgers 2212 01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:06,400 Speaker 9: reported early got their first workouts yesterday, in fact, because 2213 01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:09,160 Speaker 9: their regular season starts in South Korea with two games 2214 01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:13,080 Speaker 9: against the Padres March twentieth and twenty first. Meanwhile, in 2215 01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:17,200 Speaker 9: Golf in Vegas today, Dustin Johnson a one shot victory 2216 01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:19,639 Speaker 9: in the live golf event No Golf in Vegas tomorrow. 2217 01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,679 Speaker 9: Something else is going on. And on Golf's corn Ferry Tour. 2218 01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:23,840 Speaker 9: I don't know if you've heard about it. 2219 01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:24,360 Speaker 1: This week. 2220 01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:28,040 Speaker 9: There was a guy who shot a fifty seven there 2221 01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:30,960 Speaker 9: on that tour on Thursday, lowest round ever in a 2222 01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:34,360 Speaker 9: PGA sanctioned event. He shot seventy five today fell out 2223 01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,760 Speaker 9: of the top thirty. There was a nineteen year old 2224 01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,120 Speaker 9: yesterday in the second round who shot fifty nine at 2225 01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:42,519 Speaker 9: this tournament in Colombia. Turns out Bogata's over eight thousand 2226 01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,679 Speaker 9: feet above sea level rain earlier had softened the greens. 2227 01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:48,920 Speaker 9: Some players have said, yeah, it's a really short course. Nonetheless, 2228 01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:50,799 Speaker 9: a records a record. 2229 01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:54,080 Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve the Sager, 2230 01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:57,840 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Er Torres. Jason Martin 2231 01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:01,040 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studio twenty four 2232 01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:03,960 Speaker 2: minutes from now. Bernie Freddo of The Bernie Freddo Show 2233 01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:06,280 Speaker 2: will follow us. By the way, I hope Saga has 2234 01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:09,960 Speaker 2: a great evening. He will be back in tomorrow and oh, 2235 01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:12,320 Speaker 2: by the way, Jason Martin and I will be back 2236 01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:16,600 Speaker 2: in as well. Eight pm Pacific, eleven pm Eastern. We 2237 01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:21,599 Speaker 2: will be following Arnie Spanier and Chris Plank after the game. 2238 01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:24,559 Speaker 3: All right, Jason, let's get to the other side. 2239 01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:28,479 Speaker 2: We just talked at length about San Francisco what they 2240 01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:32,719 Speaker 2: need to do to win on Sunday, Kansas City Chiefs. 2241 01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:33,800 Speaker 1: Let me say this about case C. 2242 01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:37,000 Speaker 2: Jason, I've been thinking a lot about this so all 2243 01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:42,080 Speaker 2: college football season long. We talked about how this might 2244 01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:45,880 Speaker 2: have been Nick Saban's best coaching job in college football 2245 01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:49,120 Speaker 2: at Alabama. Obviously, Nick Saban has since retired, but the 2246 01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:53,439 Speaker 2: argument being that basically about two three weeks into the season, 2247 01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:55,639 Speaker 2: he kind of realized, you know what, the way we 2248 01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:57,439 Speaker 2: want to play, the way we have played in the 2249 01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,960 Speaker 2: past with Bryce Young and Tua, it's not gonna work. 2250 01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:02,920 Speaker 2: We need to change how we play. We need to 2251 01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:05,639 Speaker 2: run the ball more, we need to play great defense, 2252 01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:07,920 Speaker 2: we need to let our quarterback run more. I bring 2253 01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:11,760 Speaker 2: it up because I feel like that's kind of what 2254 01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:14,799 Speaker 2: Kansas City has done is I think they were trying 2255 01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:18,400 Speaker 2: to be the twenty nineteen, twenty twenty twenty twenty one 2256 01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:21,880 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs up until about three weeks ago, and 2257 01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:24,799 Speaker 2: then they got to that playoff game against the Dolphins 2258 01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:28,120 Speaker 2: when it was negative a million degrees and they just 2259 01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,200 Speaker 2: ran the crap out of the ball. They played defense, 2260 01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:32,559 Speaker 2: they got out with the win, and since then this 2261 01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:36,439 Speaker 2: has been a defense first, run first team that Mahomes 2262 01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:39,240 Speaker 2: obviously makes plays, but he's not being asked to put 2263 01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:41,920 Speaker 2: up four hundred yards a night. And so when I 2264 01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:44,360 Speaker 2: look at this team and I look at what Kansas 2265 01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:46,160 Speaker 2: City has to do to win, I think it's obvious. 2266 01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:50,040 Speaker 2: Keep doing what you've been doing. Mistake free football, zero 2267 01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:53,759 Speaker 2: turnovers in these playoffs, or at least Mahomes has zero turnovers. 2268 01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:57,080 Speaker 2: I should say that's the key. I know it's obvious 2269 01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:59,880 Speaker 2: because you're here. But I don't think it's you have 2270 01:49:59,920 --> 01:50:02,280 Speaker 2: to score thirty one points. I think it's get ahead, 2271 01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:05,400 Speaker 2: play defense, rely on the run game, and you're gonna 2272 01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:05,839 Speaker 2: have success. 2273 01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:08,599 Speaker 4: What say you, Yeah, I mean I think that's true. 2274 01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:11,880 Speaker 4: You don't have to outscore the way that you used to. 2275 01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:16,640 Speaker 4: Lugerious need has been shut down. I don't think I 2276 01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:19,400 Speaker 4: think I saw this he did not give up a 2277 01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:23,160 Speaker 4: touchdown until the game against the Bills a couple of 2278 01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:26,840 Speaker 4: weeks ago this year, and he's usually against the number 2279 01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:30,160 Speaker 4: one wide out. So we'll see whether or not they're 2280 01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:33,400 Speaker 4: able to do something against them. They meaning San Francisco 2281 01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:38,080 Speaker 4: in this case. But you've got Carl Loftus who has 2282 01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:41,240 Speaker 4: emerged big time, and Chris Jones, who of course got 2283 01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:45,880 Speaker 4: paid and is a massive force. And if he can 2284 01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:49,320 Speaker 4: get to rock Party, ouch, that's gonna be a real 2285 01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,960 Speaker 4: problem for San Francisco. But this is a team that 2286 01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:55,360 Speaker 4: and you have said it repeatedly, it doesn't have to 2287 01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:56,679 Speaker 4: win on offense anymore. 2288 01:50:57,360 --> 01:50:58,200 Speaker 1: It can. 2289 01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:00,479 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that Patrick Mahomes needs to be a 2290 01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:03,519 Speaker 4: game manager, but if they avoid the big mistake, their 2291 01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:05,759 Speaker 4: defense is likely going to put them in a position 2292 01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:10,080 Speaker 4: to win a game against just about anybody on any 2293 01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:13,479 Speaker 4: respective Sunday, whether it's the Super Bowl or Week one 2294 01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:16,200 Speaker 4: when they lost to the Alliance. But Chris Jones was 2295 01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:19,160 Speaker 4: watching from a box that night, so you know, you 2296 01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:23,639 Speaker 4: look at everything that has happened this year, it would 2297 01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:27,640 Speaker 4: be very I don't know, it would almost be on 2298 01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,120 Speaker 4: brand for them to show up tomorrow and the offense 2299 01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:33,840 Speaker 4: to go wild. But I think that both these defenses 2300 01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:35,320 Speaker 4: actually are going to be playing with a lot of 2301 01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:39,080 Speaker 4: pride tomorrow and they're gonna want to be spoken of 2302 01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:43,839 Speaker 4: after this game. So I anticipate this to be lower 2303 01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:48,479 Speaker 4: scoring than maybe I would have at the beginning of 2304 01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:52,800 Speaker 4: the year when I predicted this game. It just it 2305 01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:54,760 Speaker 4: feels like this is going to be more of a 2306 01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:57,800 Speaker 4: war of attrition than last year was a great football game. 2307 01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:00,760 Speaker 4: I do not think this game is going to be 2308 01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:04,880 Speaker 4: up and down offensively in the same way we have. 2309 01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:09,840 Speaker 2: Hit on this Super Bowl from every single angle. So 2310 01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,160 Speaker 2: the only want thing to do left that is pick 2311 01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:12,759 Speaker 2: our winner. 2312 01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:13,840 Speaker 3: We'll do that. 2313 01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:14,160 Speaker 1: Next. 2314 01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:28,599 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aeron Torris, 2315 01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:31,880 Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios. 2316 01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:33,559 Speaker 2: We're taking you to the top of the hour. Bernie 2317 01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:37,080 Speaker 2: Fredo of The Bernie Freddo Show follows us. By the way, 2318 01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:40,240 Speaker 2: if you missed any of the show, make sure to 2319 01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:43,080 Speaker 2: go back and download the podcast. We did have Purdue 2320 01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:47,200 Speaker 2: basketball coach Matt Painter on the show, and we asked 2321 01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:50,400 Speaker 2: him about some kind of pseudo controversy around his program 2322 01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:52,879 Speaker 2: in the last couple of weeks. To some foul stuff, 2323 01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:56,560 Speaker 2: and he was very passionate in defending his team and 2324 01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:59,280 Speaker 2: his program. If you love college hoops, go back and 2325 01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:02,280 Speaker 2: download the pod cast. Coach Peter gives about probably ten 2326 01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:05,120 Speaker 2: twelve minutes of his time. It was Yeah, it was great. 2327 01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:07,000 Speaker 3: Man. 2328 01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:08,960 Speaker 1: No, I don't have anything else to add other than that. 2329 01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:13,720 Speaker 4: Like that, The answer to that question about if the 2330 01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:15,680 Speaker 4: way his team has been officiated this year was just, 2331 01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:18,559 Speaker 4: I know it's super Bowl, but man, like, it's gonna 2332 01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:20,960 Speaker 4: take a It's gonna take quite a performance tomorrow to Trump. 2333 01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:21,120 Speaker 1: Though. 2334 01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know, and you said it in our 2335 01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:27,200 Speaker 2: one is sometimes you know, first of all, you get 2336 01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:29,840 Speaker 2: these coaches on and you know, very often they're not 2337 01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:30,720 Speaker 2: gonna say very much. 2338 01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:32,200 Speaker 1: Okay, even if. 2339 01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:37,680 Speaker 2: It's a pseudo you know, whatever you deem controversial, you know, 2340 01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:40,760 Speaker 2: usually they're gonna take the path of least resistance. Well, 2341 01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:44,080 Speaker 2: you know, we disagree, but whatever, We're focused on the 2342 01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:46,400 Speaker 2: next opponent. I'm trying to think of a football analogy. 2343 01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:49,320 Speaker 1: You know, I don't own the Cincinnati. 2344 01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're on a Cincinnati. I mean, you know, whatever 2345 01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:56,479 Speaker 2: he I you know, listen, I I don't know how 2346 01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:01,360 Speaker 2: much media he does. Outside of media availabilities and you know, 2347 01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:04,800 Speaker 2: mandatory media availabilities. And I don't know if he's really 2348 01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:07,120 Speaker 2: had a chance to unload on that. You know, I'm 2349 01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:09,880 Speaker 2: sure that like the night of the game, I'm sure 2350 01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:13,040 Speaker 2: he was asked about it, but then probably bluntly, you know, 2351 01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:15,639 Speaker 2: just probably, you know, it's it's the heat of the moment, 2352 01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:17,720 Speaker 2: and it's right after the game. You don't really have 2353 01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:21,280 Speaker 2: a chance to really prepare an answer. And so I 2354 01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,680 Speaker 2: don't know if he's he hasn't had a big platform 2355 01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:26,680 Speaker 2: to talk about it, or if he has answered it 2356 01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:28,640 Speaker 2: so many times. Maybe it's the opposite that he was 2357 01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:34,360 Speaker 2: just ready to go. But again, very passionate about his answer, 2358 01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:40,360 Speaker 2: as as the Purdue head coach Matt Painter, did go 2359 01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:44,120 Speaker 2: ahead and did give us some good intel mixture. You 2360 01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:44,880 Speaker 2: download the podcast. 2361 01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:45,160 Speaker 3: What's that? 2362 01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:46,360 Speaker 1: He brought the heat? 2363 01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:49,160 Speaker 3: He brought the heat? So did his team? Twenty point win? 2364 01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:53,160 Speaker 2: Tell you what, Lorena, help our friend Mary get us 2365 01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:55,840 Speaker 2: some music, Get us some NFL music, because we are 2366 01:54:55,920 --> 01:55:02,640 Speaker 2: going to make our Super Bowl picks. All right, Sunday afternoon, 2367 01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:06,720 Speaker 2: six forty Eastern time, Jason, So we are talking, I 2368 01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:08,360 Speaker 2: can you I'm not evenna do the math I'm tired. 2369 01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. 2370 01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:14,280 Speaker 2: Home San Francisco against the Kansas City Chiefs in Vegas. 2371 01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:18,360 Speaker 2: San Francisco a one and a half point favorite. Jason, 2372 01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:20,640 Speaker 2: We've spent three hours talking about it. Go ahead and 2373 01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:24,120 Speaker 2: tell us what your take is in your official final prediction. 2374 01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:27,960 Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm gonna go with what I went with 2375 01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:31,760 Speaker 4: before the season, and I'm gonna go with it for 2376 01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:34,680 Speaker 4: the reason that I should have gone with it when 2377 01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:39,800 Speaker 4: I miss judged the championship game of one of these conferences. 2378 01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:46,760 Speaker 4: And it's still Patrick Mahomes League until further notice. He's 2379 01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:49,280 Speaker 4: just better than you are. He's better than you are 2380 01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:51,400 Speaker 4: at football, and he's gonna find a way to beat you. 2381 01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:54,560 Speaker 4: And in the biggest moments, he's just gonna make a play. 2382 01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:59,240 Speaker 4: He's gonna do something, and I'm just not betting against 2383 01:55:59,240 --> 01:55:59,919 Speaker 4: the guy anymore. 2384 01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:01,320 Speaker 1: I am picking. 2385 01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:04,440 Speaker 4: Kansas City to beat San Francisco, even though there have 2386 01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:06,440 Speaker 4: been times this season when I said San Francisco was 2387 01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:10,160 Speaker 4: more complete. I think Patrick Mahomes and you add to it, 2388 01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:14,080 Speaker 4: Spagnolo and the way that that defense for him has 2389 01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:16,680 Speaker 4: played this year and has played. 2390 01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:17,520 Speaker 1: In this postseason. 2391 01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:21,520 Speaker 4: I just think that Kansas City enters this game as 2392 01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:27,160 Speaker 4: the better football team with an underworldly quarterback who owns 2393 01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:30,120 Speaker 4: the NFL Right now, I know he's not the reigning MVP, 2394 01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:32,440 Speaker 4: and I understand why Lamar Jackson won it. 2395 01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:34,879 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is the best player in the NFL. 2396 01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:37,920 Speaker 4: He will prove it again and Kansas City will win 2397 01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,800 Speaker 4: another Super Bowl in back to back years. 2398 01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:44,680 Speaker 2: Well, I'll go ahead and give my pick and listen, 2399 01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:47,200 Speaker 2: it is Kansas City as well. And listen, I hate 2400 01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:50,839 Speaker 2: the super cliche. You know you can't bet against Patrick Mahos, 2401 01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:53,920 Speaker 2: but you're right. I've done it. Two weeks in a row. 2402 01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:58,160 Speaker 2: I thought for sure the Baltimore Ravens were going to 2403 01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:01,240 Speaker 2: win that AFC Championship game at home and ball to 2404 01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:03,360 Speaker 2: more best defense in the NFL. 2405 01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:04,560 Speaker 3: And they completely fell apart. 2406 01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:06,720 Speaker 2: And it was the same with the Buffalo Bills, who 2407 01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:08,680 Speaker 2: could not move the football in the second half. And 2408 01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:11,880 Speaker 2: so why I like the Kansas City Chiefs is because 2409 01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:15,680 Speaker 2: this is probably their least explosive offense, but it is 2410 01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:18,640 Speaker 2: by far the best defense of this run. And that's 2411 01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:20,680 Speaker 2: not a new take. Everyone's been talking about it for 2412 01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:23,000 Speaker 2: the last two weeks. I get that, But at the 2413 01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:27,160 Speaker 2: same time, the way these two teams have played. San 2414 01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:31,440 Speaker 2: Francisco has made a habit of falling down early. Kansas 2415 01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:35,280 Speaker 2: City has made a habit of getting a lead, controlling 2416 01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:38,480 Speaker 2: the clock, and controlling the game with that defense. And 2417 01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:41,000 Speaker 2: so if San Francisco is going to play the way 2418 01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:44,320 Speaker 2: that they have over the last couple games, this is 2419 01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:46,240 Speaker 2: not a team that you can fall down twenty four 2420 01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:48,400 Speaker 2: to seven against. This is not a team that you 2421 01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:52,600 Speaker 2: can fall down double digits a touchdown and just expect 2422 01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:54,240 Speaker 2: to magically flip a switch. 2423 01:57:54,280 --> 01:57:54,960 Speaker 3: This is not a team. 2424 01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:57,320 Speaker 2: By the way they ran the ball all over the 2425 01:57:57,360 --> 01:58:00,000 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions in the second half of that NFC Championship game, 2426 01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:01,920 Speaker 2: you cannot do that. 2427 01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:02,760 Speaker 3: In this game. 2428 01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:05,920 Speaker 2: You will not be able to do that. So I 2429 01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:09,680 Speaker 2: have Kansas City twenty four to seventeen. I think it's close. 2430 01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:14,320 Speaker 2: I think it's low scoring, and I think Kansas City's defense, well, 2431 01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:16,080 Speaker 2: they won't get the literal MVP. 2432 01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:17,920 Speaker 3: I think they will be the MVP of this game. 2433 01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:19,760 Speaker 1: Jason, did you say twenty four to twenty one? 2434 01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:21,000 Speaker 3: I sit twenty four seventeen. 2435 01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:23,680 Speaker 4: Oh, twenty four to seventeen. Yeah, that's about where I 2436 01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,560 Speaker 4: have it. I don't think this game hits thirty points. 2437 01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:28,360 Speaker 4: I don't I think that you can win it with 2438 01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:29,960 Speaker 4: twenty seven. You might be right, you could win it 2439 01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,480 Speaker 4: with twenty four. I was in my head, I was 2440 01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:34,760 Speaker 4: thinking something like twenty four to twenty one. I think 2441 01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:36,920 Speaker 4: it's that close. It's twenty four to twenty one, it's 2442 01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:40,720 Speaker 4: twenty eight twenty four, it's something in that range. I 2443 01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:42,880 Speaker 4: think it should be a great football game with a 2444 01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:45,360 Speaker 4: lot of things for us to chat about this time 2445 01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:46,120 Speaker 4: Tomorrow night. 2446 01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:49,760 Speaker 2: That is right for people who miss the announcement. Jason 2447 01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:53,960 Speaker 2: Martin and I will be on at eleven pm Eastern 2448 01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:56,840 Speaker 2: Time breaking down this game from all angles Tomorrow night. 2449 01:58:57,000 --> 01:59:01,320 Speaker 2: Sunday night, Super Bowl Sunday. Arnie Spaniard Plank will be 2450 01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:05,720 Speaker 2: on for believe about five or so hours. 2451 01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:09,880 Speaker 1: That much of Ernie Spanier was that you imagine that 2452 01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:10,960 Speaker 1: much of Ernie Spanier. 2453 01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:13,080 Speaker 3: It's a lot of Arti Spader. That's a lot of 2454 01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:13,760 Speaker 3: Arti Spader. 2455 01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:16,200 Speaker 1: It's all the that's all the Arty Spaniard. 2456 01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:16,440 Speaker 6: Yeah. 2457 01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:18,920 Speaker 2: I think they come on at five Eastern, so about 2458 01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:21,600 Speaker 2: an hour before kickoff, and they take you straight up 2459 01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:25,280 Speaker 2: until eleven pm Eastern time. Jason Martin and I will 2460 01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:28,680 Speaker 2: follow follow them and We're gonna have a ton of fun. Man, 2461 01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:31,600 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to do it. It's gonna be fun. 2462 01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:33,920 Speaker 2: Uh and there is going to be so much to 2463 01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,440 Speaker 2: discuss one way or the other. If you missed any 2464 01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:39,160 Speaker 2: of today's show, we hit on this game from all angles. 2465 01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:41,080 Speaker 2: We talked about what the Chiefs need to do to win, 2466 01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:43,120 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers need to do to win, what's 2467 01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:46,200 Speaker 2: mahomes legacy gonna be Brock Party, Andy Reed, Travis Kelcey, 2468 01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:48,320 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. So that said, we gotta get 2469 01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:49,520 Speaker 2: out of here. Want to thank the crew, want to 2470 01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:52,760 Speaker 2: thank Lorena and Mary on the board. Want to thank 2471 01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:56,200 Speaker 2: producer Pat Steve de Seger. From my partner Jason Martin, 2472 01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm are Taurus. Make sure to download the podcast Coming 2473 01:59:59,880 --> 02:00:03,920 Speaker 2: up next Bernie Fratto in Vegas of The Bernie Fratto 2474 02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Show That's Next Fox Sports radioh