1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, greetings, and welcome in another beautiful edition 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: of Fox Sports Sunday. Here Fox Sports Radio Mike Harmon 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: alongside Dan Bayer my tag team partner for this voyage 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: one more time as we roll into Week one of 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: the NFL preseason. In earnest fantasy drafts, I actually just 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: made a pick right before we went on air in 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: a long slow I'll tell you who it was in 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: a second, because the answer is maybe. 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It is the closest place 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: that is open to the radio studios at this time 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: of the hour for us on the West coast, But 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: still it is USA Proud USA Donuts to the rescue. 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: Slam that stamp down. All right, So here's the pick 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: I made, right, you know, guillotine leagues for those unaware. Right, 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: every week the team with the lowest score you get 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: sent away. All those players go to waivers. The feeding 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: frenzy continues, and the whole strategy is, all right, how 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: much am I building a team thinking I'm their long term? 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: How much is I might have a good matchup a 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: week one? And that's the beauty of its strength of 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: schedule and all that. Ye really have no idea. We 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: could say with some sense of certainty that the Arizona 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals probably aren't gonna be very good, but you know 33 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: what they did. They still beat Sean Payton, so that 34 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: was kind of fun. But you know, it's that kind 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: of thing, is like, you know, you have all these 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: assumptions of how good or bad a team's gonna be, 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: and then you see some craziness go down and teams 38 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: get eliminated. But what it means is you're not drafting 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: ten or twelve teams. You're drafting enough for the entirety 40 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: of an NFL season and one, which means the pool 41 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: gets thinned real fast. So I just drafted Melvin Gordon 42 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: in round twelve. 43 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: Oh wow, waiting for the JK. Dowhart, hoping for the JK. 44 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: Dobbins sit in to continue even longer, or. 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 1: I mean just questioning JK. Dobbins. His health has been 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: sure tenuous at best in a lot of a lot 47 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: of games and circumstance. And really it's the all right, 48 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: I'll just have another running back on the roster should 49 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: this go anywhere. I mean, now we're so deep into 50 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: backups it's not even funny. I mean, eighteen teams, twelve rounds, 51 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: you're far. 52 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: Draft to find a lot of value. Yeah, Ravens are 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: one of those interesting teams with the offensive coordinator change, 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: and how are things going to be different? I don't 55 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: know how different they should be, Mike. To be perfectly 56 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: honest with you, I thought they had a nice recipe 57 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 2: for success. Maybe people don't think that they could win 58 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, but I thought that they were just fine. 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: It really just comes down to Lamar Jackson and Lamar 60 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: Jackson being healthy. 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: But right, can he stay on the field? 62 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: Right? 63 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, in the end, what you had all these 64 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: years a good run game, obviously Lamar being part of that. 65 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: And we could talk about the wide receivers and the 66 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: health right, because that was one of my big talking 67 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: points the last couple of seasons Dan for both the 68 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: Chargers and the Ravens. As much as we can talk 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: about the play on the field, the fact that they 70 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: couldn't get guys back right. Two week injuries were six 71 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: week injuries constantly in the trainer's room, and both those 72 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: teams changed out their trainers. So we'll see if they 73 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: have some better I don't know. Maybe they did the 74 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: whole incense and sagebrush thing like Kyrie Irving, and maybe 75 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: it just took some bad demons out of the locker 76 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: rooms as well. But now you go and you're changing 77 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: things out, and maybe to just prove that you're a genius. Right, 78 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: DeCosta was how many more wide receivers can we get 79 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: in the room? Rashad Bateman? How much is he gonna play? 80 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: What he plays? Flash is a little bit of something? 81 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham junior? How good is he gonna be? The 82 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: only steady you had is Mark Andrews as a receiver. 83 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: So but if Lamar Jackson is gonna play twelve games 84 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: a year, it doesn't matter. 85 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: And when Lamar Jackson, like we always have this Lamar 86 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: Jackson conversation, and now we don't have to have it 87 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: with because of the contract extension is there. But Lamar Jackson, 88 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: I also believe Mike is in this group where if 89 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: he just gets one, and maybe maybe this is kind 90 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: of on the heels of you know, Dirk Novitzky going 91 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame, which I know we're going 92 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: to talk about later in the show, but going into 93 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: the basketball Hall of Fame is Dirk didn't need to 94 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: win four titles, didn't need to win Kobe's five, just 95 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: needed to get one to validated. And I feel like 96 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: like Lamar is in that spot where they just need one. 97 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: If he gets one, it's solidified. He's not to be 98 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: in a race with Mahomes. I don't believe not gonna 99 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: be in a race with other quarterbacks, but to just 100 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: get the one is what I think would be so 101 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: huge for Baltimore. And you mentioned that, you know, the 102 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: additions the Rashad Bateman being held over. They used another 103 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: first round pick on Zay Flowers, who a lot of 104 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: people are high on as well. But I just I 105 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: look at the Ravens team and hey, preseason, get the 106 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: w got it? On Saturday Night against the Eagles. Keep 107 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: that thing rolling. I look at like Lamar and the 108 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: Ravens and when they would win a Super Bowl or 109 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: how they would win a Super Bowl. They wouldn't do it, 110 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: Mike as a one seed. I think they do it 111 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: as like a six seed. You know, when you go 112 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: in and you face a hot goalie in the Stanley 113 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: Cup playoffs and almost the next thing you know, Florida 114 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: Panthers are in the Stanley Cup. Yeah you know, I 115 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: mean the final or however you want to use the example. 116 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: If Lamar would get hot on a playoff run, you 117 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: could see something like that. You could see that run. 118 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if the one two seed like fits 119 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: then the year that they were bounced by the Titans, 120 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: and heck, you know they even went to Tennessee and 121 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: were able to get a road win a few years ago. 122 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: But if you went in as like a sixth seed 123 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: and just all of a sudden got really hot ran 124 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: through the playoffs, that's our I think Baltimore ends up 125 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: getting it done. Long term, you're looking at where Lamar 126 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: Jackson is. 127 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: I will full disclosure, I have a lot of Lamar 128 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: Jackson shares in my early fantasy drafts do. Yeah, just 129 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: the people I know around there in Baltimore that it's 130 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: like a different resolve and that this offense really could 131 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: be something different. Right, And you didn't abandon the run game, right, 132 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: You still have a pretty good, healthy stable of guys 133 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: in there, and bringing in Melvin Gordon, you paid him 134 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: like three million dollars, so he's there. It's just a 135 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: question of how those carries get divvied up. And the defense, 136 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, is always going to be solid. But the AFC, 137 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: to your point, Dan, are you running to the one 138 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: or Juice Seed? I mean that division's gonna be tough 139 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: just in itself, right, whatever Joe Burrow's injuries, he's back 140 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: throwing and whatever. But then they'll take there, you know, 141 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: be cautious with it. But Cleveland's gonna be better Pittsburgh. 142 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: Not that we take a lot out of preseason games, 143 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: but certainly all the video that we've been watching out 144 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: of camp and all the whispers out of there, you know, 145 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: George Picktens is gonna be a problem. The run game 146 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: between Najie Harris and Jalen Warren is a problem. And 147 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: if Kenny Pickett shows that level of growth, Friarmouth, You've 148 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: got other guys that can make plays. And Pittsburgh is 149 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: always gonna be in that five hundred range. So they're 150 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: gonna be good enough to mess things up even under 151 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: the worst circumstances because they're still gonna grind out, you know, 152 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: some of those lower games on the schedule, and they're 153 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: going to cannibalize things in division. And we know the 154 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: Steelers Ravens games are usually pretty hotly contested down to 155 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: the wire. So yeah, it's not any path even through 156 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: the division, let alone the rest of the conference. 157 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: Now, you're not gonna go six an hour, five and one. 158 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: I mean just it's not it's not going to happen, 159 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: not not in the a f C North. And I 160 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: like Pittsburgh this year, you know, TJ. Watt hopefully for 161 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: them healthy for you know, hopefully for them the whole 162 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: the whole season as opposed to last year and missing 163 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: the first half after the injury and game number one. 164 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's there's you can see. You can see 165 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: Kansas City getting home field again. I'm not a big 166 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: believer in the in the Raiders, and I do think 167 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: that Denver has work to do. I think it's a 168 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: two team race in the AFC West, and so then 169 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: you start to look around at where also, Okay, who 170 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: else could the AFC East is gonna be? Is gonna 171 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: be tough a f C South. I believe it's Jacksonville's sit, 172 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: you know, division that's up for grabs. But the point 173 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: is is, yeah, I think I think the number one 174 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: seed would be difficult out of the AFC North. 175 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm also Lamar's playing seventeen sure or sixteen, Like I 176 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. Twelve's the magic number and you get 177 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: what you're you know, get what you get out of that. 178 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: But I think just style of play and Freddy quarterback 179 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: at this point, right, I mean, there's a lot of 180 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: bumps and bruises along the way, uh, and not that 181 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: you're doing load management, but you're also trying to be 182 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: judicious about what your long term goals are and watching 183 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: these preseason games, I mean, we can take, you know, 184 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: some excitement. I was getting a bunch of texts from 185 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: friends back in Chicago justin fields. Look at that big 186 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:33,239 Speaker 1: Touchou'm like it was DJ Moore on a run essentially, 187 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: Like I still have trouble reconciling those plays. Dan, you know, 188 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: I'll take my sixty. It looks great, and hey, sixty 189 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: four yard touchdown goes scrolling across the screen and then 190 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: you see the play. It's like, well, run, look. 191 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: At it this way, Mike. Now defenses are gonna have 192 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: to defend that play, which then would maybe allow Justin 193 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: Fields to have a sixty yard run if they bust this. 194 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: You know, the the coverage on the screen. 195 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: That's that's that's my guy, because two touchdowns. And man, 196 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: we obviously know that play is gonna work pretty well 197 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: for them, and they've they've really pushed that forward. But 198 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: just the excitement, it's like, look, we're going into preseason games. Man, 199 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: how much talk was there last night about Stetson Bennett 200 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: all right, Rams and Chargers getting on here. It's at 201 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: so far in Los Angeles. And again, my my tweets like, 202 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: I was out in a soccer tournament, So a good 203 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: chunk of the day of the phone was just off 204 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: and immersed in what my daughter and her team and 205 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: and everything that was going on there. So I missed 206 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: some of the early craziness except when I turned it 207 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: on and got all the Justin Field stuff. And then 208 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: I get finally get home and I refresh X, and 209 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 1: I was like, Bennett, Bennett, Benett, pictures of Bennett, that 210 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: guy's never seen the gym in his life, all like 211 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: every critique you could possibly have about Stetson Bennett. Here's 212 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: a picture of Wilford Brimley. How close is he to 213 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: his Wilford Brimley cocon age? You'd name it. Everything came 214 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: out in the wash, but preseason week one a lot 215 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: of excitement, and at the end, I was like, can 216 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: we just start? 217 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: I get it. I get it. And the funny thing 218 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: is is, for those that missed it, when Mike's Bears 219 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: took on of the Titans, Justin Field's not only threw 220 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: a basically a pass out in the flat to Dj Moore, 221 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: took it to the house from about sixty yards. Khalil 222 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: Herbert had a screen pass that he then took to 223 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: the house. So Justin fields numbers for the day three 224 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 2: for three passing, one hundred and twenty nine yards and 225 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: two touchdowns. 226 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: That is a perfect quarterback rating right there. 227 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: You ask anyway a banner, Ask anybody in fantasy football. 228 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: They're mad that the sixty two and the fifty six 229 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: yard scores did not come via his legs. 230 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's true. 231 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: Dan. 232 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: Here's here's the question, you know, week one of the preseason, 233 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: and we'll continue this chatter as we go forward. Gino 234 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: Smith didn't take a snap. Did you ever think you'd 235 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: see a day in your life all these other guys 236 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: are taking snaps, running out couple of series sex. You 237 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: know what, Gino, he's good. 238 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: Did not did not that they'd want to keep Geno 239 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: Smith in bubble wrap, but a testament to Gino Smith. 240 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: And then then what I also saw Mike was Drew 241 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: Lock looked good. Now, I don't know how much Drew 242 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: Lock really did on Thursday night against the Vikings. It 243 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: was you know, it was it was whatever. There were 244 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: a few nice throws here in that. But that's what 245 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: you get in the preseason. It's the ultimate overreaction and 246 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: and it's it's strong. I'm telling you like it is. 247 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: Some of the some of the highlights have told you 248 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: about this kid. You know, somebody breaks off a you know, 249 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: forty yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter, and all 250 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: of a sudden, everybody was a draft expert four months 251 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 2: ago and telling us about this guy or that they 252 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: were in on this guy, which actually kind of makes 253 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: me sick of the preseason a little bit, like, all right, 254 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: let's let's get the real stuff going on. I love 255 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: seeing the graphics, I love seeing the teams out on 256 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: the field, but we are We're just one weekend basically, 257 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: and I'm almost I'm almost done with the preseason. 258 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: I was laughing so Friday and Friday night, Smith's off, 259 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: I've got Ernie Spanier in with me, and the end 260 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: of the Washington Cleveland game incensed him. 261 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: I don't even know what happened. 262 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, let me tell you how this 263 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: breaks down. Okay, so Washington's Cleveland scores and it's a 264 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: two point game, missed the two point conversion and then 265 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: they just kick it away. Three kneel downs and it's done, 266 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: and he lost his mind. I'm like five percent chance 267 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: of an onside kick recovery over the course of the 268 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: NFL if you look at special teams injuries just in 269 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: week one of the preseason, guys ripping quads, chess muscles, 270 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: you name, like, why are we risking anything? And he's like, 271 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: don't you want to win? I'm like, all right, you 272 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: need to calm down. 273 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 2: If they make the two point conversion. They both may 274 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: have just quit. Well, but that's final two minutes. You 275 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: kneel down, I'll kneel down. Let's go, because there's no 276 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 2: overtime in in preseason game. The other part of it, 277 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: it might is anybody that is on the kickoff team 278 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 2: at that point in the game very likely is not 279 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: gonna make it. That is right. So you can't even 280 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: get a rep. You can't even get a rep in 281 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: to do. 282 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: It's not your kicker, even your kicker practicing, No the 283 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: on side kick, like there's no value. That was the argument, 284 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: and he tried to like did you bet them? Like, 285 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: I know you're a but I guess Browns would. The 286 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: Browns were minus three, so if they'd got the ball back, 287 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: maybe they score the touchdown to actually win the game. 288 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: But it was really one of the borey inane conversations. 289 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: And it's part of it is he plays the perfect 290 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: radio foil. I'm gonna die on this argument, but it 291 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: was just one of those moments of its preseason football. 292 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: None of these guys are playing past week three, so 293 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: we'll get to that soon enough. 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Fox Sports Sunday, 321 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: Mike Harm Dan Byer with you here. You hear Dan 322 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: during the week part of the Doug Gottlieb Show, as 323 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: well as Cavino and Rich Here on Fox Sports Radio. 324 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm usually yelling and trying to talk about something that 325 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: isn't the Jets alongside Jason Spence four hours a night, 326 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: Hold on a second in the week, hold on a 327 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: second year. 328 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm going to reveal the curtain a little bit. 329 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: Mike sent the rundown late last night and put together 330 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: our stories and in the one line he said, stets 331 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 2: and Bennett. I just wanted to talk about stets and Bennett. 332 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: You get him in. 333 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: You got he got Stets and Bennett in so we 334 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: can talk about whatever it is. But we were going 335 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: to make the deal to get Stetson Bennett in. 336 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: Well, it just really was the story of that game, 337 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: right primetime game here in LA and and we've got 338 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know, Ilo and Steve de 339 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: Sager and my producer justin probably we got a lot 340 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: of people that help with the broadcasts as you flow, 341 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: and you know, so I'm paying attention a little bit 342 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: because i know it's just going to come up in conversation. 343 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: My executive producer for the show with Smith, Like he 344 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: even heads up the radio spot. So it's like, all right, 345 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: what did you see when you get so try to 346 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: pay a little bit of attention. But Stetson Bennett became 347 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: the guy on social medium like, and he was good, 348 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: took some hits, made a couple of big throws, played 349 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: a lot whatever. But it's like, again owing back to 350 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: it's week one of the preseason and when we're talking 351 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: down distance, game circumstance, who he's throwing against again, all professionals, 352 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: And at no point do I ever want it to 353 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: make it sound like I'm denigrating a guy who's gone 354 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: through college football and his path to the NFL however 355 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: long short it is. But you're talking third stringers. You're 356 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: talking guys that are most likely going to be the 357 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: last you know, this may be the last stuff they 358 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: put on tape before they get into whatever the next 359 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: career is but its stetson. Bennett becomes like, I think 360 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: the poster child for this weekend's games of the preseason 361 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: and how much we try to take away from them. 362 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 1: For some guys, you want to get a little bit 363 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: of rusted off, right, Jordan Love, all right, you're you're 364 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: now the guy. Go do some things. A couple of 365 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: awful throws and then a nice lob to Dobbs for 366 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: the for the touchdown. Right, there was a third down pass. 367 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: It was about fifteen feet too high and about twenty 368 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: yards to the leading the wide receivers like, wow, that 369 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: was awful on a thurn down. And then they go 370 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: and score the next possession. Okay, pass completed, Clap the 371 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: hands move on the justin field stat line that we 372 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: read a little bit earlier, right, like, okay, good Bears fans, 373 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: all right, he got a little bit off. Russell Wilson 374 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: plays multiple series and it doesn't look right at all, 375 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: and then he finds Jerry Judy gets the touchdown and 376 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: finally comes out. So we're seeing that reversal. We talked 377 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: about it a little bit last week of starters, in 378 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: most cases at least kicking the can for a series 379 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: before seeding to the second teams. A little bit of 380 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: throwback that way. Guys used to play a lot longer, 381 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: but we were at the point the last two or 382 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: three years where guys were just in sweatpants hanging out 383 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: on the sideline. So at least a change there. But 384 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: trying to take any grandiose meaning from this, I mean 385 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: we got Bryce Young, played a bit, CJ. Stroud, everybody 386 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: dissected his brief time. I mean, ad nauseum. You want 387 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: to talk about a guy who's now behind the eight 388 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: ball off of a short stint playing for Houston. The 389 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: other day, man the poison pens were out in rapid 390 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: fire succession for him. 391 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: Well, it's also the first game of the week. It 392 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: gets you going, and it's really the kickoff of the preseason. 393 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 2: There's something with the Rams, though, that I do want 394 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: to bring up because I think it's worth. I think 395 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: it's worth at least a little bit of a conversation. 396 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 2: So tomorrow for the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, 397 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: we're gonna be live from Chargers training camp. About a 398 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: week ago, we were at Rams camp and there was 399 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: there was a different vibe with Rams camp It wasn't 400 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 2: a negative vibe. It's just different. There were there were 401 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 2: other years that you went there, and there's there's like 402 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: real expectations. And the message that I feel that was 403 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: coming from rams Camp and I saw it on social 404 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 2: media last night, is about how many young guys there are, 405 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: you know, with thirty five to forty rookies coming in 406 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: and trying to make this roster. My question, Mike, and 407 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure this out myself. Is this narrative 408 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: a precursor to what the season is or are we 409 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: talking about this narrative because it is in such stark 410 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: comparison to what they were previously, meaning, you know, the 411 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: go out, let's spend and you know, bleep them picks 412 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 2: and all that whole thing. But now there's this because 413 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: you're not necessarily one hundred percent sure on Matthew Stafford's health, 414 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: there's a retooling on the offensive line if you can 415 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 2: get everybody healthy. But there just seems to be this 416 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: push of the young guys of look at there's thirty 417 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 2: thirty to forty rookies that you could you know, new 418 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: names you could see on this roster, and my whole, 419 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: my whole thing about it is is it a pre 420 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: cursor to like, all right, get it ready for a 421 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: five and twelve season again, or is it trying to 422 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 2: inject something new with the organization. And that's what That's 423 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: what I can't necessarily tell. And Stetsan Bennett's probably the 424 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: one that isn't included in all of this. But I'm 425 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: just wondering on what the Rams because we don't expect 426 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: a lot from them. But is this narrative that's being 427 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: pushed one of trying to be this is a team 428 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: that's on the upswing or is it just hey, get 429 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: ready because it's going to be ugly this year too. 430 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: I would go to the latter part, but also to 431 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: the idea of Sean McVeigh. How real or imagine was 432 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: he almost out of the league and taking a year 433 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: off or disappearing or whatever the case was, because I mean, look, 434 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: we did it, and I certainly had as big a 435 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: megaphone as I could saying what it gets hard and 436 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: you leave, like I get, you got a lot of circumstance, 437 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: and I don't downplay the stress of you know, the 438 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: job and the grind of coaching, et cetera. But you 439 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: win a super Bowl. You've got your the Wonder Kids, 440 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, the Charmed Life, all of this super genius, 441 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: and then you have one rough year where a bunch 442 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: of guys get to get hurt and the heavy investments 443 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: that you made on veteran players didn't pay off because 444 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: most of them couldn't stay on the field. Yeah, right, 445 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: so you know you almost walked away. So I think 446 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: part of it is also all right, we've got to 447 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: go a different path, maybe from from ownership of we 448 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: paid most of our money to what eight to ten 449 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: guys yep, and then tried to sprinkle it in, which 450 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: can work. But that's also everything has to go right. 451 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: Like I always talk about it, talking about so the 452 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: Cubs and their World Series run. You can never take 453 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: that away. But remember how that team was build was like, 454 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: all right, now they have their core, their nucleus for years, 455 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: here's you know, Anthony Rizzo and here's Chris Bryant and 456 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: all these guys. Well, it fractured pretty fast, right, They 457 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: didn't stay healthy, they got free agent contract. Go back 458 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: to the eighty five Bears. You're obviously Chicago centric with 459 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: my mind, you know, of the home but like one 460 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: of the most dominating teams in football history, and then 461 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: it was gone, just like that. Wilbrim Marshall leaves for Washington. 462 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: Buddy Ryan and Mike Ditka hate each other and probably 463 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: would still street fight these days. It's good, you know 464 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: all of those things that you know, it just fractures 465 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: really quickly. And for the Rams, you had everything come 466 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: together properly. Hell, even Odell Beckham Junior getting hurt didn't matter, 467 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: which was good talking about you know his I would 468 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: have gotten two fifty in that game if I hadn't 469 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: gotten hurt. You've got guys from the Bengals chirping bags 470 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: like I still got my ring. So I mean it's 471 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 1: good fodder, right, I enjoy it. But the next iteration 472 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: and this were stets In Bennett actually has some football 473 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: value for what he showed and the length that because 474 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: ripping was no good. Right saw that pretty fast. We 475 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: kind of know what Brett Rippon is. Yes, So for 476 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: Stetson Bennett, for all the age jokes and whatever else, 477 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: the guy's played against the best competition that you could 478 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: possibly throw at him for multiple years. If Matthew new 479 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: Stafford isn't right, this was also the audition of all right, 480 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: are we going to be ready with him. But I 481 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: think to your point, it's going to be a rough year, 482 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: But the bigger thing is we're gonna have to do 483 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: this a different way. 484 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I also think of just how they're handling how 485 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: they would handle that backup quarterback spot also maybe tells 486 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: you that if it's not Matthew Stafford, they obviously have 487 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: no chance. And the only reason I bring that up 488 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: off of what you said is because of what happened 489 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: with McVeigh prior to Matthew Stafford, when you had Jared 490 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: Goff and John Wolford, and then all of a sudden, 491 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: the playoffs come around and Wolford's going to be the 492 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 2: starter and he's replaced Jared Goff, and so there was 493 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: value there, meaning I mean, for as great as Stetson 494 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: Bennett was at Georgia and leading them to back to 495 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: back Nash titles, if if he's if Matthew Stafford's hurt, 496 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: they're not They're not going to go anywhere. And even 497 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: if Matthew Stafford's healthy, I think that there's a question. 498 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: You know, there's no more Jalen Ramsey. 499 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of depth. Cooper cups already a 500 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: little bit nicked up in the preseason, should be okay, 501 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: But look at the rest of the receiving corps. Not 502 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: a murderers row cam akers. What is he? 503 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 504 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: Is he the guy that nobody wanted on the field 505 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: and was going to walk away? Or is the guy 506 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: that suddenly became the bell cow for a month period 507 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: dourn to stretch. We don't know, like once the game 508 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: and the season was already gone at that point. Yeah, 509 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: right to when he has his big numbers. So how 510 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: much do we call it, you know, on a season 511 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: basis what we do on a normal football Sunday of hey, 512 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: fourth quarter garbage time. Yeah, take nothing away from his effort. 513 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: The numbers are the numbers. But are you getting that again? 514 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: Is that the guy that's bought in or they made, 515 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, play nice sandbox and move forward? Defensively, you're 516 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: a year older in the secondary. You mentioned Ramsey's gone. 517 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: He's not playing where he's at either, but he's gone. 518 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: That takes a lot of that veteran leadership away. You 519 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: got your Seahawks and you got the forty nine ers 520 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: that no matter who's a quarterback, they always seem to 521 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: be formidable. Sure, so and the Arizona I think we 522 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: can all agree. Unless some miracle happens, they're going to 523 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: be terrible. But the Rams are looking at a third 524 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: place finish in the division. 525 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 2: You're gonna get a lot from Week one because the 526 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: Rams are in Seattle to face the Seahawks, and no 527 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: matter what, the Rams have just had the Seahawks number. 528 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: Even even in games that the Seahawks have won, mic 529 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 2: it hadn't it hasn't been easy, like you know, especially 530 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: over the last you know, three years or so. There 531 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: was a Thursday night game a few years back when 532 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 2: the Rams are still wearing the white horns and Jared 533 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 2: Goff was still trying to figure stuff out, and the 534 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: Seahawks brought out there, you know, the the green uniforms 535 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 2: and it was just, you know, they dominated. But other 536 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 2: than maybe that performance, it's always been a difficult game 537 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: for Seattle. If Seattle is you know, wins that game 538 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 2: with ease, it may tell you something about the Rams 539 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: in Week one and where this team really is because 540 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: they just have they've kind of had the Seahawks number 541 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: and have been able to match up with them. And 542 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: even when the Seahawks were a better team and the 543 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: Rams obviously with better team the last you know, a 544 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: couple of years prior to last year. But yeah, that 545 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: Week one matchup will tell you a lot. I just 546 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: I found the sets and Bennett' stuff. I think it 547 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: gets a lot of hype too, because oh, here's college 548 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: quarterback name. Now we're gonna see him in the NFL 549 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 2: this weekend. But you're hearing a lot of the thirty 550 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: five to forty rookies on this team. This you're going 551 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: to see a lot of. And I just kept on 552 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: hearing that. I saw a tweet about that, like somebody 553 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: tweeted thought it could have been a hashtag ad after 554 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: it because of this message that's being pushed. And I'm like, 555 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: why is this message being pushed? Is it because hey 556 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: we're on the upswing, or hey this is going to 557 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: break you for a for a hard fall if you 558 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: think that there could be something special coming up this season. 559 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we need to go back and do 560 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: a deep as to what those contracts all look at 561 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: like at the end of this year, how many do 562 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: they get off the books so they can do a 563 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: complete reload or overhaul. And maybe that's part of the 564 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 1: reason mcveigh's back because you do, get to build it 565 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: back up from scratch. 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We'll tell you what that's gonna mean. 579 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: But first we've got to go to our guy, Isaac 580 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: Lowengron to find out what's trending. 581 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 5: Good morning, fellas in what's trending the NFL preseason? Because 582 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 5: on Saturday night, the Baltimore Ravens made it an NFL 583 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 5: record twenty fourth consecutive preseason win. They held off the 584 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagles twenty to nineteen that included a sixty yard 585 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 5: field goal by Justin Tucker, who then said see in 586 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 5: September anyway. The Los Angeles Chargers defeated the Los Angeles 587 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 5: Rams thirty four to seventeen. The Chargers ran for two 588 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 5: hundred and fourteen yards as a team. Rams rookie quarterback 589 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 5: and according to Twitter, future Hall of Famer Stetson Bennett 590 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 5: completed seventeen twenty nine, one sixty one and a touchdown, 591 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 5: and it's time to play a quick Stetson Bennett trivia. 592 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 5: Stetson Bennett is one hundred and thirty three days older 593 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 5: than Justin Herbert. There is your future Hall of Famer 594 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 5: Stetson Bennett trivia. In Major League Baseball, on Saturday night, 595 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 5: the Baltimore Orioles won at Seattle and ten innings won 596 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 5: to nothing on an RBI single by Ryan mount Castle 597 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 5: in the top of the tenth, breaking the Mariners eight 598 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 5: game winning streak. The Los Angeles Dodgers over the Colorado 599 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 5: Rockies four to one, as the Dodgers broke a seven 600 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 5: excuse me, the Dodgers made it seven wins in a row. 601 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 5: And eleven of their last twelve. The Diamondbacks broke a 602 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 5: nine game losing streak. They defeated the Padres three to nothing. 603 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 5: San Diego has won five, has lost rather five of six, 604 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 5: and the Atlanta Braves winning over the Mets six to 605 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 5: nothing to sweep a doubleheader, Spencer Strider winning the second 606 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 5: game for his thirteenth victory of the season. Atlanta had 607 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 5: won the first game twenty one to three, Nationals over 608 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 5: Oakland three to two. K Bear Ruiz the game winning 609 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 5: home run on the first pitch of the bottom of 610 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 5: the ninth inning. Also Saturday Night, Dwayne Wade, Dirk Noovisky, 611 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 5: Tony Parker, Pau Gasol, Becky Hammond, and Greg Popovich among 612 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 5: those inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame Class of 613 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 5: twenty twenty three. 614 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 6: Can I finish my statement? 615 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 5: No, your speech already went twenty six minutes. Get out 616 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 5: of here, back to you guys. Did it go six 617 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 5: twenty six minutes, which is more time combined than his 618 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 5: career interviews with sideline reporters. 619 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: I heard the duh line. I don't know if when 620 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: did that happen? Like? How soon in the internew did 621 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: you know? Yeah? 622 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 5: It was it was relatively soon, and so he went 623 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 5: over and he you know, embraced it was it was Parker, Jenobili, 624 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 5: Duncan and David Robinson, and they thought that that was 625 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 5: the end of his speech. So a madrasad came to 626 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 5: get him off the stations. 627 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: He started to play. 628 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, it was like the Academy Awards where they 629 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 5: played people off the stage. 630 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: I dig that a madrashod still part of the festivities. 631 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: Thinking back to him and Willow Bay on a Saturday morning. 632 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: Sheer will we grew up. We grew up that way, 633 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: sheer Wheel. Indeed. Yes. 634 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: Now you also mentioned ilo the age difference between Stetson 635 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: Bennett and Justin Herbert. I just want to say it's 636 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: really good that Herbert got his contract because now he's 637 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: equal to career earnings on Twitter. 638 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: At damn, the dogs are going to be barking at 639 00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: Mike Carmen get him at. 640 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: Some I'll take it all as we roll on. There's 641 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: there's an exciting story in golf. And no it's not 642 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: the soccer golf tournament we were watching earlier as we 643 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: came into the studios. Something that's got tongues wagon. I 644 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: want to get Dan's feel and his temperature on it, 645 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: and we'll do that next here on Fox. 646 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 647 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 648 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 4: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 649 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 4: listen live. 650 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back into the tirerac dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios, 651 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday Mike Carmen alongside Dan Byer having a blast. 652 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: We're just getting warmed up here on this beautiful Sunday morning. 653 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: So much on the the books today in terms of 654 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,719 Speaker 1: sporting activity, Dan, But a story that that circled up 655 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: that I thought I would I would ask you about, 656 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, as the the golf officionado here, you've got 657 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: your what you got a titleist hat on titles and 658 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: the US Open pullover. So I was using my US Open, 659 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: uh little little chair that I bought all these soccer tournaments. 660 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: You want to talk about a conversation starter, just like 661 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: we talked about last week, Dan Bar everybody has to 662 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: ask really get to go. It's like, yeah, I went, 663 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, parents from other teams might be fighting 664 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: like cats and dogs on the pitch, Dan, but the 665 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: US Open chair brings everybody together. 666 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 2: Yes, it brings up conversation, it's it's great. It's also 667 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: the tricky thing of when you're wearing an event on 668 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: your shirt that you didn't go to because or sitting 669 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: in a chair to be like, oh, did you go 670 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 2: in there and you're like no, and it's such a disappointment. 671 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: So I've tried to veer away from, you know, stuff 672 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 2: like that because it is such a letdown, especially for 673 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 2: the person that asked. Then you feel like you're letting them. 674 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: Well, but like the concert shirts or whatever, Oh did 675 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: you get to go? It's like, no, it's not. His 676 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: sign was cool? 677 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 678 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: Or my my friend went and bought me this shirt. 679 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: I know, that's that's a different one. I got my 680 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: buddy went or got you like, that's that's. 681 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: There's at least you know, I'm a middleman. But no, yeah, 682 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: I bought it because I like the loco, yes exactly. 683 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: Or it was in the backyard and whatever. 684 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 2: You're an Oilers fan, Uh No, I just liked the 685 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: oil Derek logo. That's what I get when I you know, 686 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 2: like when you are the throwback. 687 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: I just like that you say oiled Derek. Yes, it's 688 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: I mean, it's what it is. But in today's day 689 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: and age, you PLoP a fifty dollars bill in for 690 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: someone and say, what is that oil? Derek probably ain't 691 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: coming to their mind real fast. 692 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 693 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: According to the wonderful world of the twitter verse, someone 694 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: was quoted as saying that Tiger Woods was out and 695 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: about and a junior golf tournament last week at Old 696 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: Palm uh in Florida and had no walking boot on 697 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, the eyebrows raised, people 698 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: get excited, and so you know, this has gone through 699 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: playing through the the blog, and it's made its ways 700 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: through uh, the the social media world, and we'll take 701 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: it at face value here because it's just a great 702 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: talking point, is Tiger Woods. We keep waiting for the 703 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: the next iteration, And you and I have been doing 704 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: this for a long time together, and you know, folks 705 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 1: get I think we're just at the we'll take any 706 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: glimpse we can get of Tiger will ye period in this. 707 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: You know, in this week we obviously had the Phil 708 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: Mickelson Billy Walter's story that took up a lot of oxygen. 709 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: Roy McElroy and Jordan Speith kind of commenting on all 710 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: of those things. 711 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: And Phil Micholson, by the way, denied something that he 712 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 2: wasn't being accused of. He wanted to bet on the 713 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: Ryder Cup, which was the accusation. Phil statement of denial says, 714 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 2: I never bet on the Ryder Cup. He never denied 715 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: that he wanted to. 716 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody that that's a rational human 717 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: being that's watched Phil Michelson for the last twenty five 718 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: years would believe that he didn't want to correct right, 719 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: because we'd heard a lot of things. And Smith and 720 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: I got into a big long discussion about betting habits 721 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: and whatever and really put that but Rory taking his shot, well, 722 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: he won't have to worry about betting on himself this 723 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: time around. Whatever. But he comes in because golf was 724 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: in the news a bunch this week based on that, 725 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: And so for Tiger Woods, whenever the name comes up, 726 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: you get to bring up the history, you get to 727 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: bring up some of those great shots and great rounds 728 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: Dan and for the game, it injects a little bit 729 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: of juice, not only within the golf community, but certainly 730 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: in the sports world at large, because we could start 731 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: running more top tens, we could start running more top fives. 732 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: We can talk about all the history and the records, 733 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: and even if there's an appearance at a course, it's 734 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:56,439 Speaker 1: a big deal. 735 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: We're eight months away from the Masters in twenty twenty four, 736 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: a lot sooner than people would think, but eight months away, 737 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: and when you think of that event, that's the part 738 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 2: where if you're looking at a Tiger comeback, you look 739 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 2: towards maybe he would play at the Genesis Invitational at Riviera, 740 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 2: maybe there would be a tournament that he would play prior. 741 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 2: But when we last saw Tiger again, it's him limping 742 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 2: around Augusta National when weather wasn't great that week. And 743 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: then you go to the year before, Mike in twenty 744 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 2: twenty two, when he wanted to play the Masters, played 745 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: in the PGA Championship but had to withdraw, and then 746 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 2: he was like, I'm going to play the Open Championship 747 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 2: at St. Andrews. Missed the US Open, but that was 748 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 2: the big deals to play at the one hundred and 749 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 2: fiftieth Open Championship and what ends up happening, Mike. The 750 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 2: reason I'm bringing this timeline up is because the more 751 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 2: you watched him, you're like, man, he's a lot further away. 752 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 2: From that twenty nineteen Masters win than I thought, But 753 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 2: how many of us truly really thought the Tiger would 754 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 2: win the twenty nineteen when he did, And I think 755 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 2: if we were being honest with ourselves, we didn't think 756 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 2: that he would be able to do that again. But 757 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 2: he did it. So now that's what this does because 758 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 2: the last really you know, five major tournaments, four or 759 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 2: five major tournaments that we've seen of Tiger, he's been 760 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 2: limping around, he's been hurting, the conditions haven't been ideal. 761 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 2: Withdrew from the Masters because of the bad weather this 762 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 2: past year, where Sunday was going to be quite the 763 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 2: you know, quite the trek for him and ended up 764 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 2: withdrawing and not playing there on the final day, but 765 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: made the cut, and now are saying, well, now because 766 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 2: following the surgery, now he can maybe do that again. 767 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 2: Now he can maybe get Major number sixteen. And I 768 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 2: think it's because we truly never thought that he would 769 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 2: actually win again, and when he did in twenty nineteen, 770 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 2: it makes us think that he can do the impossible again. 771 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 2: And that's why I think there's so much hype of 772 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 2: Tiger's not seen in a walking boot. Well, guess what 773 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 2: he got the issue fixed that had been hampering him 774 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: for the last you know, twelve to eighteen months, and 775 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 2: I it's that's why people get excited. I don't think 776 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 2: it's realistic that he's gonna win a major again, I 777 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 2: really really don't. But the I didn't think you would 778 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 2: win the twenty nineteen Masters, and I think that's what 779 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 2: a lot of people are holding out of Tiger doing 780 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 2: the unthinkable and surprising us all again. 781 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: Well, we like to cite it as often as we can. 782 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: Hope is can be the best of things. Hope is 783 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: a dangerous thing at times. But the old you're saying, 784 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: there's a chance, and if he's on the course, there's 785 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: a chance, yes, And if it brings casual folks back in, 786 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 1: even for one tournament, one round, one weekend, you get 787 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: to think of all those great times you had watching 788 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: him when he was at his best and keeping Phil 789 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: and his pocketbook lean betting on himself. 790 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 2: That news maybe bigger than the Fedexicup playoffs that have 791 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 2: started this week. Crazy enough, crazy how that all works together. 792 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: He's Dan Byer on Mike Carmen here Fox Sports Sunday, 793 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Live from the tirerac dot com studios. 794 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: Come next the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame. Let's talk 795 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,479 Speaker 1: about it next, dun Fox Greetings and welcome in hour 796 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: two of the program, a beautiful Fox Sports Sunday Live 797 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: from the tyrack dot com studios. Tyrack dot com will 798 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: help you get there an unmatched selection, fast free shipping, 799 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: free road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers 800 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: tyreck dot com. The way tire buying should be Mike 801 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 1: Harmon alongside Dan Byer with you here at dan Byer 802 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: on Fox on X, find me over at Swollen Dome, 803 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: at Buyer, Grahams at Buyer, talk at Harmon, rants for 804 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: me on TikTok. A lot of Top five's coming up. 805 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: We've been doing a lot of just random ranting during 806 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: the week about movies and TV whatever. Might as well 807 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: bring that to the masses and get them mount me too. 808 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 2: Why not get everybody mad at you? 809 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: That's okay, you know that's what we try to do. 810 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: You're mad at them, Well, that's Jit's it's a battle. 811 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: I mean, look, my rundown still says Saturday again. So 812 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: you know all of those things that flow together. 813 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 2: This is a true and I know the listener doesn't 814 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 2: necessarily know. But Shay, you can end this tradition. I 815 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 2: would think, since well, since I've been here in March, 816 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 2: it has always said Fox Sports Saturday at the top 817 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 2: of this rundown, So you have the power. It has 818 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: always said that. It is always said Fox Sports Saturday, 819 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 2: so you have the power to make the change. 820 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 1: So every week when we begin the show at six am, 821 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: I've started the tradition of crossing out Saturday as I 822 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: do the instroduction and writing Sunday atop my rundown. There's 823 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: your behind the curtains. But hey, the information, the. 824 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 2: Date underneath it is correct. It says Sunday August thirteenth, 825 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 2: and last week I'm sure it said Sunday August sixth, 826 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 2: but above it said Fox Sports Saturday. 827 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: It's funny how it all works together and we just 828 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,720 Speaker 1: call out what we do and there it is coming 829 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: up twenty five days from now. It's like a lit 830 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: an advent calendar that we can get started. 831 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 2: Be great. That's actually a really good idea. 832 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: The twenty five days ahead of the opening night game. 833 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: I mean, do you take little mini bottles of booze, 834 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: like different confections. 835 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,439 Speaker 2: This is what I would do is a cheese curd 836 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 2: day I would take I would I would get a 837 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 2: I would get a box. I would make thirty two doors. 838 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 2: So each door you open is something of a team, okay, 839 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 2: like maybe a coin or a piece of candy, maybe 840 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: in the shape of a Dallas Cowboy star. But for 841 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 2: each of the doors you would open would be something 842 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 2: related to one of the thirty two NFL teams. The 843 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 2: larger trading card. 844 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: I don't know you did it, well, I mean, we 845 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: make it where it's a giant wall, just. 846 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 2: Play the enormous one. I'm just thinking the one you 847 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 2: keep on the counter. 848 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: But okay, okay, you know I was. I was thinking 849 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: large vision. Here there's thirty two trading cards and every 850 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: day you get a legend. Actually, that's not a terrible idea. 851 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: I think we now have to see if we how 852 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: much is it going to cost us to manufacture that dan. 853 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 2: They they were in radio, but then they teamed up 854 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 2: and they're the ones who started the NFL Advent calendar. 855 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 2: It's not a bad way to get part of our Yeah. Well, 856 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 2: I have been. 857 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: Getting a lot of ads. They evidently did one from 858 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,919 Speaker 1: Nakatomi Plaza, where you can have Hans Gruber falling every 859 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: day and you move him down to zero. So you've 860 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: got that going for you as well. We've got Chris 861 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: Prophet tags in from Mark Shay, who we shouted out 862 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: there it is it easy and our guy Isaac Low 863 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: and crown on Updates pleased to be with you here 864 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: on a beautiful Fox Sports Sunday morning. Yesterday. The Naysmith 865 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame got to get it right 866 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: because otherwise people get a little upset, you know, And 867 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: if you go to their website, it's just whopaul dot com. 868 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: They don't even go through the pageantry of giving you 869 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: a full name. But we had a lot of inductions yesterday, 870 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: a lot of long speeches. You heard Ilow refer to 871 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: Greg Popovic's twenty six minutes, which is amazing. We'll get 872 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: to him in a second. They do always do an 873 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: autograph signing as a group that you could buy tickets to, 874 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: and they have long established Hall of famers that do 875 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: those as well. But saw some video clips coming out 876 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: of people breaking down into tears getting to talk to 877 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 1: Popovich and the other members of this class about what 878 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: they meant to them in their careers and such it 879 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 1: was really some touching stuff, right. So you have Dwayne 880 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 1: Wade probably as you laid it out, would be atop 881 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: the marquee. Name wise, you've got Popovich and Parker, Dirk Noavinski, 882 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: my guy Gene Katie, who I used to see at 883 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: Welsh Ryan Arena in Evanston as a student and thereafter 884 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: always said, hey, he was always really nice as can 885 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: be until the whistle blew and then he had that 886 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: trademark scowl on his face and. 887 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 2: There I have heard similar similar stories about Gene Katie 888 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 2: just being an awesome individually, just. 889 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,800 Speaker 1: An awesome dude talking to you about his team, the players whatever. 890 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: I remember when Glenn Robinson was there and whatever, what 891 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: a big deal you know that was, and how much 892 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 1: he loved talking about that team, Kwanso Martin and all 893 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: those guys together. And then you got Paul Gasol. There's 894 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: other members, Becky Hammond and such. But for the purpose 895 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 1: of this conversation, we'll talk about it from an NBA perspective, 896 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: and why don't we hear from Popovich to get things 897 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: rolling as we get into the Hall of Fame discussion. 898 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 6: I tried to think of a word that would describe 899 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 6: what this might feel like, and it feels even it 900 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 6: feels even different than I thought it would. But for me, 901 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 6: it's unimaginable. And that's not an attempt to be humble. 902 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 2: This is unimaginable. 903 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 6: And for anybody that's gone through this and felt it, 904 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 6: it's not you think about as you're growing up. 905 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: It's unimaginable. So Popovich goes on for twenty six minutes. 906 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: You've got all of the luminaries from the titles, and 907 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: you see David Robinson, Tim Duncan popped out of hiding, 908 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: all of those things that we get, and we celebrate 909 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: those squads, right, Becky Hammond for her role and what 910 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: we talk about women and coaching and what the next 911 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: iteration and growth of the sport and evolving of the sport. 912 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, Popovich and Parker. Over here, we've got Dirk 913 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: Noavitsky one ring with the Mavericks. But look, we had 914 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,359 Speaker 1: a song when Christaps Porzingis came into the league. You know, 915 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: is he the you know Latvian Dirk was the hope 916 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: and then he's had a bunch of injuries and bounced around. 917 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 1: But every once in a while you see glimpses of 918 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 1: what could have been. But Dirk gets presented by Jason Kidd. 919 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: Paul Gasol goes in as well, he gets presented by 920 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 1: Tony Kukoch, going back to my you know, nineties bulls 921 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: in that process, and all of them have their their 922 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,760 Speaker 1: the web of how the NBA has progressed these last 923 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: twenty five years. Popovic obviously still coaching, still active, But 924 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: we look at the impact for the global and globalization 925 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 1: of the game. Like you can make your argument for 926 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 1: a number of these players and participants like Popovich that 927 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 1: and coaches and contributors that how much they've changed the game. 928 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 1: Like I love Dwayne Wade, great player, but is he 929 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,879 Speaker 1: a transcendent guy in that same way. No, We've got 930 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: three pillars over here that I think are just a 931 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: bit different. 932 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think Dwayne Wade on the surface, people would 933 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 2: look at that and be like, that's your marquee Hall 934 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 2: of Famer. But when you dive deeper into this class, 935 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 2: and honestly, we don't dive deep into Hall of Fame 936 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 2: classes that go into the Basketball Hall of Fame class 937 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,839 Speaker 2: that unless you have, you know, a class like this 938 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 2: where it's just star after star after star. But I 939 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 2: think that Dwayne Wade's name brand would be probably on 940 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,799 Speaker 2: the outside marquis. But you want to talk about what 941 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 2: the night really felt about. It did seem like it 942 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 2: was a celebration of the San Antonio Spurs, but I 943 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 2: would argue that of everybody there and that so the 944 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 2: Spurs and Tony Parker and Greg Popovich and what they've done, 945 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 2: that the person with the biggest impact is Dirk Novitzky. 946 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 2: And to see what he meant to the NBA, how 947 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 2: it changed, how teams were trying to draft players, the 948 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 2: way that Europe opened up to the NBA and the 949 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: NBA trying to find the next Dirk. We've talked about 950 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 2: so many times. I would say that his presence and 951 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 2: what he meant is probably had the most impact on 952 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,720 Speaker 2: the game. And then it's not just the one title 953 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 2: to summ his career standing in Hall of Fame standing, 954 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 2: you know, there's there's also the fact of like they're 955 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 2: you know, late Kobe Bryant. How many guys do you 956 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 2: think Kobe Bryant came into the league that Kobe Bryant 957 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 2: like truly respected and like you know, looked after and said, 958 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 2: I you know, I'm good with that. I think Dirk 959 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,800 Speaker 2: was one of those guys. Heck, he tried to copy 960 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 2: Dirk shot, you know, like there's. 961 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,439 Speaker 1: And recruit him in all of those things. Right, those 962 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: stories are legendary, there's yeah, there's you know. 963 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,879 Speaker 2: So when you look at this class, it's such a 964 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 2: star studded name brand class. But I think that this 965 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 2: is not meant to disrespect Dwayne Wade at all. I 966 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 2: think that when we look at today's NBA, Dwayne Wade's 967 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 2: name probably pops more than more than everyone else's. But 968 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 2: it was a celebration I felt to the Spurs. But 969 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,839 Speaker 2: in reality, like the biggest, the biggest impact in basketball 970 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 2: maybe of any of the buddy on that dais last 971 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 2: night or at the podium, was Dirk Noovitsky. 972 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,760 Speaker 1: So you have Dwayne Wade, right, You've got him with Shack, 973 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 1: You've got him with Lebron James, clearly married to Gabrielle Union, 974 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: they do commercials, he's got a game show, very present 975 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: as it were. Dirknovisky he opened a restaurant at the 976 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: airport and then went to the Hall of Fame stuff. 977 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 1: So that was great. To your point about the International 978 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: I was leaning towards Paul Gasol because he's a guy 979 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: that I think from the larger scale doesn't have the 980 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 1: same name and name recognition and juice. But without him, 981 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant doesn't get his other two titles. 982 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 2: But is that Hall of Fame worthy? 983 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: Well, I mean you look at his career and the 984 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 1: way the Basketball Hall of Fame works, you start adding 985 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: international play and everything else, there's a lot of names 986 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: that go in. Yes, right, yes, that kind of thing. 987 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: So for me, it's it's him, but it's also what 988 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: it does for the legacy of Kobe Bryant. To add 989 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,959 Speaker 1: on to the international stuff is undisputed. 990 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 2: Right. 991 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 1: You had players that had made their way over, but 992 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 1: they were outliers in terms of scouting recruiting. You had 993 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: one or two organizations that did that. And then you 994 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 1: look at even the Spurs, Tony Parker coming from France 995 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of those players. And 996 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: now somehow they get Victor wemb min Yama who grew 997 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 1: up a Spurs fan because of Tony Parker. But you know, 998 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: the ball, the balls bounce and tanking happens as as 999 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: it does, no penalties for them. But the idea is 1000 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,800 Speaker 1: that you know, you you have the the international like 1001 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 1: because That's what the Spurs did. They took a lot 1002 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,439 Speaker 1: of shots on guys that never came over. 1003 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:46,359 Speaker 2: Right. 1004 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 1: They would always draft guys like maybe in two to 1005 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 1: three years they develop and they want to come to 1006 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 1: the States. Maybe they don't, but they're lottery picks. And 1007 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean that from the maybe they they get it to, 1008 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,799 Speaker 1: you know, give us some rich maybe they don't in 1009 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: second round pick. So not a lot of big investment 1010 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 1: because they probably weren't gonna make the rotation that year anyway, 1011 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: and then they never came. But there were very few 1012 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,720 Speaker 1: teams back in the day that really spent any money 1013 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: on international scouting, and Dirk changed that, which why now 1014 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,919 Speaker 1: having Kukoach as part of the ceremonies is a big 1015 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 1: deal because he was also this guy in Chicago. I 1016 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: never thought he was gonna come correct, correct, right, I mean, 1017 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: so you know, you change the game there. I'm just 1018 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: looking at it from the you know, the the other 1019 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 1: side of from Gasol. He doesn't have that same marquee level, 1020 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: but his impact certainly here in Los Angeles. You know, 1021 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 1: you don't look at basketball the same and Kobe Bryant's 1022 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 1: legacy and what he means on the pantheon when we 1023 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 1: talk about him and Duncan as that next tier of 1024 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: guys with three titles that doesn't get there. 1025 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, I think with Pow it 1026 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 2: is that it is the whole picture. It's what's happened internationally, 1027 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 2: you know, in looking at the class that went in. 1028 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 2: Tony Parker was a guy honestly that I couldn't stand, 1029 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 2: could not stand Tony Parker. And then in two thousand 1030 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 2: and seven they beat the Cavaliers in the finals, swept them, 1031 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 2: and that's when he was Finals MVP. He really got 1032 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 2: like an appreciation of what he was because you remember, 1033 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 2: like that the Spurs team that won their first title 1034 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 2: that was in Avery Johnson, Sean Elliott, David Robinson and 1035 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 2: Tim Duncan, and so then he, you know, like Duncan stays, 1036 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 2: but there are pieces that then Bruce Bowen ends up being, 1037 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 2: you know, part of that run, and their new Manu 1038 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 2: obviously comes along, but Parker was you know, I think 1039 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 2: it was I just I don't think it was because 1040 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 2: he was French Mike, but there was just something about 1041 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,240 Speaker 2: Tony Parker. I'm like, gosh, you know, this guy lands 1042 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 2: into this spot, you know, getting to play with Tim Duncan, 1043 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 2: but then you really got to see him later on 1044 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 2: one of the guys that I couldn't stand, but then 1045 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 2: later on in his career just really really appreciated as 1046 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 2: a player for what he did. I was even I 1047 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 2: was kind of like that with Russell Westbrook as well. 1048 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 2: But Tony Parker, I think there are some people who 1049 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,720 Speaker 2: be like, as Tony Parker really a Hall of Famer, 1050 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 2: you know, like like I think that would be the 1051 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,959 Speaker 2: you know, one of one of the questions you also 1052 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,879 Speaker 2: have to realize on who is actually in the Hall 1053 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,919 Speaker 2: of Fame, and then if you saw it, you'd be like, oh, yeah, 1054 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,319 Speaker 2: obviously he's a Hall of Famer. But lest I felt 1055 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 2: like a celebration of the Spurs, and I do feel 1056 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 2: that Tony Parker's Hall of Fame worthy. 1057 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is always interesting we get into these debates 1058 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 1: of Hall of Fames and it's not me trying to 1059 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,479 Speaker 1: justify say, Harold Baynes being in the Baseball Hall of Fame. 1060 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,240 Speaker 1: But in the end, it is a museum celebrating periods 1061 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: of time and players that contributed to it. Yeah, and 1062 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: you don't tell the tale of that second part of 1063 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,240 Speaker 1: the Spurs run without Tony Parker. 1064 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 2: Correct, yep, right right, and. 1065 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 1: He's still there for all of it. And Manu gets 1066 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: in at the International I get it. And you know, 1067 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 1: we look at the number of guys go in, you know, 1068 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: pro football Hall of Fame, get contentious, Baseball Hall of Fame, 1069 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: be pick and choose, deciding on who you like and 1070 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 1: what's more important versus others at other points. And I'm 1071 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 1: not going down the McGuire and Bonds and Clemens road here, 1072 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: but it's just worthy to note that in the end, 1073 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: you're celebrating the game and you can go in and 1074 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 1: see artifacts of all these guys, but they don't get in. 1075 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 1: Billy always kind of an interesting thing. It's like, hey, 1076 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: we can't tell this tale without a baseball from this guy, 1077 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 1: a bat from this guy. But you know what, you 1078 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 1: can't come in. I remember going to the Hall of Fame. 1079 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: They were like seven pictures of Pete Rose a jersey 1080 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 1: or whatever else. It never walking in unless he's a 1081 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: paying customer. He's Dan Byer. I'm by Carbon here. Fox 1082 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radios. Fox Sports Sunday brought to you by Progressive Insurance. 1083 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 1: Progressive makes buggling easy and affordable. You can get a 1084 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 1: multi policy discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV 1085 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,320 Speaker 1: and more all your protection of one place bundling saveant 1086 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: Progressive dot Com coming up next. A lot has changed 1087 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:06,280 Speaker 1: in the college football college sports atmosphere over the last 1088 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and we've been trying to watch it 1089 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: and it's you might as well have it like it's 1090 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: an election map, trying to read the tea leaves. But 1091 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 1: you know what, there was a ruling that came down 1092 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: yesterday and a note about something we expected that shows 1093 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: you the songs can still remain the same. We'll talk 1094 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 1: about it next year on Fox Welcome back in Fox 1095 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. It's Fox Sports Sunday by Carmen dan Byer 1096 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 1: with you here. 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We appreciate you being part of our 1107 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,439 Speaker 1: extended and ever growing family here at Fox Sports Radio 1108 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 1: as we come to you from the tirerac dot Com studios. Now, 1109 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 1: a lot has changed in our college world, a lot 1110 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 1: of football back and forth, a lot of big verbal swings. 1111 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 1: And I know earlier Jeff and Andy doing a little 1112 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 1: bit of the blame game and kind of talking about 1113 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, where do you source it between the PAC 1114 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 1: twelve and ACC And we'll get into the ACC and 1115 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: we don't want your leftovers kind of thing coming up 1116 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 1: a little bit later. But one thing has remained the 1117 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: same is that the NCAA, for their part of all 1118 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: of it, they can't get anything right and come to 1119 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 1: an easy resolution seemingly on anything. And I've joked about 1120 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: it the last couple of weeks. The fact that we're 1121 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: in negotiations with Jim Harbaugh at Michigan over the burgers 1122 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 1: and improper benefits and whatever else about when and how 1123 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: a suspension will be served. She shows you how useless 1124 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 1: this year organization is at this point. Right, It used 1125 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 1: to be all right. Long investigation, too long, too many people, 1126 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 1: too many dollars. We saw it right. Reggie Bush had 1127 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 1: was already finishing his NFL career before they did anything 1128 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 1: with what happened at USC and so many investigations. We 1129 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 1: saw the Tennessee deal. Here's eight million dollars. We'll take 1130 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: away some wins. Nobody cares because they're done. You don't 1131 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: have to give back any of the money or anything 1132 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 1: that flowed out of that. Oh and the scholarship productions 1133 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: because you worked with us a little bit. Tell you 1134 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 1: what time served, and then you've got two scholarships of 1135 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 1: each of the next couple of years that you lose. 1136 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: Everybody good, Yeah, man, is there any teeth to that? No, 1137 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 1: you had two hundred fractions and that was your penalty. 1138 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 1: And now Jim Harbaugh negotiating for a four game suspension, 1139 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 1: and the NCAA Committee on Infractions decided, you know what, 1140 00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: we don't like this. This is done. Becomes a all 1141 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 1: right kick that can down the road and get ready 1142 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: for the season. Opener. 1143 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 4: I e. 1144 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 1: You may never be suspended at all by time the 1145 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 1: winds blow. 1146 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not I'm not sure if that's the case. 1147 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 2: I would say that if the uh it was a 1148 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 2: four game ban, that was expected for Jim Harbaugh, and 1149 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 2: that's and and I'm gonna say that's it. I know 1150 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 2: that's not totally it, but it basically is because he 1151 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 2: would have been allowed to be around the team throughout 1152 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 2: the week and would have been able to be there 1153 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,439 Speaker 2: at practice. He just wouldn't be there on game days. 1154 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 2: And you're like, well, that could be an issue. The 1155 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 2: games that he would miss were against East Carolina, UNLV, 1156 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 2: Bowling Green, and Rutgers exactly, like, so those are the 1157 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 2: those are the matchups. You know if if it. 1158 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Is a conference game, though, Dan, that is big showdown 1159 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 1: against Rutgers. 1160 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 2: That is true for a team that really could win 1161 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 2: a national championship this year. If if all goes right, 1162 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 2: for them to have him miss the first six games 1163 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 2: of the season wouldn't even be that big of a deal. 1164 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 2: It's not the problem of just how massive this is 1165 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 2: if that's if we're talking about a deal between a 1166 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 2: four and six game or if it's even more than 1167 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 2: say six games. Because what's being reported is Harbaud did 1168 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 2: not cooperate with the investigation, and so there's expectations are 1169 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 2: are through the roof national championship is not out of 1170 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 2: the question, especially for a team that you know made 1171 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 2: it to the to the College Football Playoff last year, 1172 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 2: had that crazy game against TCU, losing in the in 1173 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 2: the semi finals, but you know play Krum should be 1174 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 2: back healthy. A lot of a lot of optimism in 1175 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,959 Speaker 2: ann Arbor. And you just wonder, Mike on how how 1176 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 2: severe that the penalty the NCAA would like to hand down, 1177 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 2: because I think that if it was the four games, 1178 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 2: Michigan would run and take that ticket to to the 1179 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 2: office and cashing in immediately, especially considering he'd be able 1180 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 2: to be with the team the six other days of 1181 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 2: the week of that with a case. 1182 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 1: I wonder how much of this is the Harbaugh obstinates 1183 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 1: that comes into it, right that maybe he's still not 1184 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 1: he's reticent to accept that he wouldn't play games miss 1185 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 1: that he would have to miss those games. I should 1186 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 1: say that they play, but the committee and fractions like, 1187 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 1: is there more to it, because as you just laid 1188 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 1: it out and what we've seen transpire, the fact that 1189 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 1: he didn't cooperate not shocking, but are you trying to 1190 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 1: make an example of him? Is there something else? Another 1191 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 1: shoe to drop because they're talking about this could go 1192 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 1: to a full hearing. Michigan, I guess, still has the 1193 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 1: potential to try to raise up and say, hey, well 1194 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 1: we'll find him, suspend him, have our own self imposed stuff, 1195 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 1: much like Tennessee. Right, hey, we agree to this, so 1196 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: scholarships or whatever over so many years, et cetera. It's 1197 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 1: just funny that we're actually negotiating a suspension as opposed 1198 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: to all right, you can go through the appeals process, 1199 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 1: you can fight. Here's where we're at, four games, eight 1200 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 1: games a year or whatever. Band like, no, no, let's 1201 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,760 Speaker 1: let's talk about this. Let's let's talk it out and 1202 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 1: see in this day and age of college athletics, how 1203 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,920 Speaker 1: severe your punishment really should be. 1204 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,920 Speaker 2: You know, if I'm Michigan, I just would I honestly 1205 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 2: just would want him on the sidelines starting November first. 1206 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 2: Like that's like, that's the stretch around they should be 1207 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 2: able to navigate. I know that there could be surprising 1208 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 2: games here, but you got to back into the schedule. 1209 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 2: Your final three regular season games are Penn State, Maryland, 1210 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 2: and Ohio State. Like that's what that's what you want 1211 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 2: to make sure that your Hay has made There's there's 1212 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 2: no Wisconsin on the schedule, there's no Illinois on the schedule. 1213 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 2: There's so I mean, if if that's the case, Mike, 1214 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 2: I'm Michigan, I'm saying five. And I know there could 1215 01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 2: be pay involved as well, So not naive to to think. 1216 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 2: But in the grand scheme of things of what's at 1217 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 2: stake for Michigan this year, for the school to get 1218 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 2: this out of the way, if you were to miss 1219 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 2: six or eight games, not a big deal. The reason 1220 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 2: that just has me scratching my head are two things. 1221 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 2: Number One, I don't think that Harbaugh leaves after this season. 1222 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 2: I actually now believe that his days of coaching in 1223 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 2: the NFL or are older. I would agree, Yeah, I 1224 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 2: don't think that that is going to happen. We know 1225 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 2: that he interviewed for the Vikings job a few years ago. 1226 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 2: I think that we felt that the Colts and Dolphins 1227 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:40,439 Speaker 2: were likely the most likely opportunities for him to go 1228 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 2: and coach for Jim Mersey, a place where he played well. 1229 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:49,600 Speaker 2: They just hired Shane Steichen, so wasn't like Harbaugh could 1230 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 2: really go in indian go to Indianapolis right away. Miami 1231 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,000 Speaker 2: seems to be in a decent place with Mike McDaniel. 1232 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,440 Speaker 2: And we know the Stephen Ross connection and that Stephen 1233 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 2: Ross also wouldn't want to take Jim hart Ball away 1234 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 2: from Michigan. I just don't know. I don't know what 1235 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 2: options there would be in the NFL that would would 1236 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 2: want to bring him in again. 1237 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean thinking about it from both sides. For 1238 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, what's better than what you have now? Right? 1239 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 1: Any NFL job is not necessarily a step up, right, 1240 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 1: especially the style and the type of guy is. If 1241 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 1: people are bristling over Eric b Enemy right now in Washington, 1242 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 1: is Harbaugh you know that much? You know, leaner, meaner, nicer, 1243 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 1: whatever in terms of how he dealt with NFL players, 1244 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 1: because he had the reputation not just battling with front 1245 01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 1: offices but also around players that it would wear out 1246 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 1: after a short period of time. The other part was, 1247 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, for me with all the Michigan because in 1248 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 1: our business we had a lot of people calling him 1249 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 1: for him to go. It's like, at some point you 1250 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,640 Speaker 1: got to be realistic about who you are, right That 1251 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 1: title with Bo schem Beckler is a long time ago. Yes, 1252 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 1: And Lloyd Carr is a long time ago. Right, those 1253 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 1: are out liars in what has been pretty a really 1254 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,480 Speaker 1: good run. Right. If I'm winning nine games a year, 1255 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean what else? What else do you expect? 1256 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 4: Right? 1257 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean you're in rarefied air if you're doing that 1258 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 1: on an annual basis with the occasional one off hiccup 1259 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,480 Speaker 1: and stuff when thing doesn't work your way. Uh and 1260 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 1: and so you know this rise back and the expectations 1261 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,920 Speaker 1: as you laid them out for this year, who are 1262 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,080 Speaker 1: you finding that's better? Like anytime we want to do 1263 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,880 Speaker 1: the fire, the coach get rid of this guy. He 1264 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 1: can't win X y Z. It's like, all right, that's fine. 1265 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 1: You don't like the end mbry, he doesn't win a 1266 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 1: playoff game whatever, Like, who are you going and finding 1267 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 1: the next whiz kid that's suddenly going to have that 1268 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,400 Speaker 1: program and keep it to that level immediately? Right? I 1269 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 1: don't know that that guy is always there to be found. 1270 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 1: We do it in every sport when we try to 1271 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 1: run guys out of town, and then everybody gets mad 1272 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 1: when they recycle the same guys. Right, well, different space. 1273 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,800 Speaker 1: So here was the statement. Michigan infractioned case is related 1274 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 1: to impermissible on and off campus recruiting during the COVID 1275 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:10,919 Speaker 1: nineteen dead period, and impermissible coaching activities. Not a cheeseburger, 1276 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:15,080 Speaker 1: said Derek Crawford, NCAA Vice president of Hearing Operations. It's 1277 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 1: not uncommon for the COI to see clarification on key 1278 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:23,400 Speaker 1: facts prior to accepting now the COVID nineteen dead period. 1279 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,439 Speaker 1: At this point, I mean, I don't know how much 1280 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,160 Speaker 1: you'd try to go back and legislate. It's sad at 1281 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 1: this point. 1282 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not about that. It's that Harball lied to them, 1283 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 2: and that's and that's what it's about, and that that's 1284 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 2: really of of and they don't feel that four games 1285 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:47,760 Speaker 2: is sufficient. Six games likely would be enough. But that 1286 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,920 Speaker 2: comes back to our point, Mike, of if you're Michigan 1287 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 2: and you could get this out of the way, when 1288 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,960 Speaker 2: the the additional two games that you mentioned, and even 1289 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 2: I mean even if the sky falls in and you know, 1290 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,480 Speaker 2: you drop one of those, you'd miss games at Nebraska 1291 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 2: and at Minnesota, those would be the games that he 1292 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 2: would we. 1293 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 1: Got up to six. Yeah, it's funny. His attorney, Harbaugh's 1294 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 1: Tom Mahers, issued this statement pursue it to the NC 1295 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:18,800 Speaker 1: Double a's internal operating procedures and under threat of penalties, Michigan, 1296 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,599 Speaker 1: the involved coaches, and their lawyers are prohibited from uttering 1297 01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 1: a word about this ongoing case. Yet the NC double 1298 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,559 Speaker 1: A can issue a public statement putting its spin on 1299 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:32,120 Speaker 1: the case. Yeah, the NC double A. They're trying to 1300 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 1: show that they still have clouts. Sure, I mean that's 1301 01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,559 Speaker 1: you know, that's the way they're still trying to spin 1302 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,559 Speaker 1: this as best they can. I would agree with his point, like, 1303 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 1: if that's the rules of engagement legally, then then yes, 1304 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,680 Speaker 1: everybody should be working behind the scenes to to do this. 1305 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,000 Speaker 1: There's no need to go in and clarify or you know, 1306 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 1: try to even if you're making fun of the way 1307 01:08:55,120 --> 01:09:00,320 Speaker 1: it's been characterized as a cheeseburger case, there's no at 1308 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 1: this point if behind the scenes you're trying to work 1309 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,080 Speaker 1: to a deal amicably. 1310 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:08,280 Speaker 2: Just curious to see on how severe they would want 1311 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,320 Speaker 2: to get six games kind of seems to be for 1312 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,720 Speaker 2: the for the Level one violation, and it does on 1313 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 2: the surface, it seems like a lot half of the 1314 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,640 Speaker 2: regular season essentially, But when you look at you know 1315 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 2: what Michigan has at stake and who is on that 1316 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,760 Speaker 2: schedule and the games that you wouldn't want to miss. 1317 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,719 Speaker 2: But again, he's gonna be He would be there throughout 1318 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 2: the week anyway. So it's just the game day situation. 1319 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to I'm not trying to downplay that, 1320 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,799 Speaker 2: but it's not like his presence would be absent. 1321 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 1: Fright that he kicked out for a month? Yeah, exactly, 1322 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,680 Speaker 1: so curiosity and obviously will follow the illegal wranglings of 1323 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,519 Speaker 1: this much to the national title implications and obviously the 1324 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 1: ever expanding Big Ten. 1325 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would say that this suspensionly comes down 1326 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,639 Speaker 2: is this is making it, I think a bigger deal 1327 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,640 Speaker 2: than maybe of what it even is, not like just 1328 01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 2: to now that it just continues to go on and 1329 01:09:59,200 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 2: now it starts to. 1330 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,479 Speaker 1: He just gets hyped at this point, right, And look, 1331 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 1: you want college football to be talked about, you don't 1332 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 1: want college football to be talked about for this, right, 1333 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,560 Speaker 1: the two stories that we have about college athletics, specifically 1334 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,280 Speaker 1: college football are not ones that really get people excited, correct, Right, 1335 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 1: traditionalists are still trying to wring their hands and wrap 1336 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,080 Speaker 1: their arms around hey, we're going to be part of 1337 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 1: a different conference or where the teams nobody wants at 1338 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 1: a conference or Florida State. We're trying to get out 1339 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,840 Speaker 1: of a deal that's in place till twenty thirty six, 1340 01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,600 Speaker 1: and we don't want you you and you while we 1341 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 1: have to be here and then you've got this and 1342 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,679 Speaker 1: the other side. And Harbaugh's name cuts through a lot 1343 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,240 Speaker 1: of things because we bring those NFL people back in 1344 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:49,640 Speaker 1: and those considerations of what he's been. So yeah, it's 1345 01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,599 Speaker 1: fun times. But if you kick it to a full 1346 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,640 Speaker 1: hearing whatever, like when does that go? Does that go 1347 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,879 Speaker 1: after the season? Is that all of a sudden November fifteenth? 1348 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 1: Not Ah, You've got to appear like there's there's so 1349 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 1: much the timeline that it looks like the NCAA is 1350 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,479 Speaker 1: trying to play puppet strings with this a little bit 1351 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 1: to create more angle, trying to push. 1352 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 2: The only thing I would say to that is it 1353 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 2: sounds like Carbot tried to do his own puppet strings 1354 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:13,639 Speaker 2: that got him into this situation. 1355 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,880 Speaker 1: Sure, so turn about as fair play, as they say 1356 01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 1: at dan Byron Fox find me over at Swollen Dome. 1357 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,040 Speaker 1: Now it's time to turn the attention over to Isaac Lohenkron, 1358 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 1: who's got an update on the Slippery Steps competition. How 1359 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,720 Speaker 1: did you know that I was going to lead with 1360 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,320 Speaker 1: that because I've known you a long time. 1361 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,760 Speaker 5: I mean you remember, you know Fourth of July was 1362 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,600 Speaker 5: all about the Nathan's Hot Dog eating contest, much to 1363 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,960 Speaker 5: my own disappointment. I will start with the NFL preseason, 1364 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 5: but I think we're gonna find some interesting items that 1365 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,439 Speaker 5: will draw people's interests. We start with the Baltimore Ravens 1366 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 5: Saturday Night, holding off the Eagles twenty to nineteen for 1367 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:56,000 Speaker 5: their NFL record twenty fourth consecutive preseason victory. The Los 1368 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,839 Speaker 5: Angeles Chargers over the Los Angeles Rams thirty four to seventeen. 1369 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 5: Chargers ran for two hundred and fourteen yards as a team. 1370 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 5: Rams rookie quarterback and according to Twitter, future Nobel Prize 1371 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,680 Speaker 5: winner Stetson Bennett completed seventeen of twenty nine for one 1372 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,000 Speaker 5: sixty one and a touchdown. Earlier, the Jets wanted Carolina 1373 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,639 Speaker 5: twenty seven to nothing. Of course, there was the big 1374 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:22,080 Speaker 5: recent controversy fellas when new Broncos head coach Sean Payton 1375 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 5: ripped former Broncos head coach and new Jets offensive coordinator 1376 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 5: Nathaniel Hacken. Now, the reason I'm bringing this up. This 1377 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:35,720 Speaker 5: past Tuesday, NFL Media's James Palmer tweeted the following, what 1378 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,839 Speaker 5: head coach Sean Payton wants to see during the Broncos 1379 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 5: first preseason game after starters are pulled, No interviews during 1380 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:50,600 Speaker 5: the game, No uniforms off after you're done playing, no sunglasses, 1381 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 5: no Gilligan hats aka bucket hats. 1382 01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 2: Well. 1383 01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:03,320 Speaker 5: During yesterday's Jets Panthers game, Jets receiver Garrett Wilson conducted 1384 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 5: a TV interview on the sideline during the game with 1385 01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:13,680 Speaker 5: his uniform off while wearing sunglasses, and you guessed it, 1386 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,120 Speaker 5: wearing a bucket hat. 1387 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 1: I wish you would have worn the little Gillian but 1388 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,000 Speaker 1: it said Gilligan on it, right right, I mean, actually 1389 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:22,760 Speaker 1: put it on there. 1390 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, is that a coincidence? It cannot be 1391 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,000 Speaker 5: a coincidence. 1392 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,200 Speaker 1: No, it's a nice return to. 1393 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,040 Speaker 2: Who the Jets Broncos is going to be the rivalry 1394 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 2: in the AFC. I love it. 1395 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 1: Sean Payton's got a lot, He's writing a lot of 1396 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,920 Speaker 1: checks right now. By the way, Wilson's going to have 1397 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:42,479 Speaker 1: to catch him. 1398 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 2: I will. 1399 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,479 Speaker 5: I would like to credit the first individual to notice that, 1400 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:54,320 Speaker 5: uh oh at raj Pac one is the some random 1401 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,280 Speaker 5: guy on Twitter is the first person who noticed that 1402 01:13:56,439 --> 01:14:00,280 Speaker 5: and could legitimately add legitimate feel to the fire of 1403 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:05,000 Speaker 5: the controversy. Insider, Yes, I guess. Finally, guys, we have 1404 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:09,559 Speaker 5: a tennis update. Yesterday, in the semi finals of the 1405 01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:15,120 Speaker 5: Montreal Open, IgA Spiontec and Jessica Pegoula were in the 1406 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:19,120 Speaker 5: middle of an intense rally during a second set tiebreaker 1407 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:24,280 Speaker 5: when there was an untimely faux pas by the sound system. 1408 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:40,760 Speaker 5: Listen closely, Cotton Eye Joe just came on this mid rodeo. 1409 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 5: And you know what, I'd like to credit whoever that 1410 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:50,800 Speaker 5: announcer was, because he instantly identified it as cotton Eyed 1411 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,679 Speaker 5: Joe when you had no idea that was coming. 1412 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,280 Speaker 2: Sharp move backew music. Where did it come from? Where 1413 01:14:55,320 --> 01:15:04,599 Speaker 2: did it go? Right? I think I think cotton Eye Joe. 1414 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 1: That's brilliant. Jessica Bagoula the daughter of one of my 1415 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,439 Speaker 1: old bosses over in the world. So there you go. Really, 1416 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,360 Speaker 1: Terry Begoulah was a big studio exec and then over 1417 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:16,680 Speaker 1: at Yo. 1418 01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:19,640 Speaker 2: Really I didn't know. 1419 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,960 Speaker 1: There you go. He's Dan Byron, Mike Harmon here, Fox 1420 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 1: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday. 1421 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,639 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that was the background and no bills, 1422 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:27,320 Speaker 2: you know, but. 1423 01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Uh or am I No, I'm 1424 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,400 Speaker 1: thinking of Semmel. I just screwed that. I totally I 1425 01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 1: conflated to two last names because there was some level 1426 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:43,160 Speaker 1: of success. All right, scratch that kill that from the podcast. Yes, 1427 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,960 Speaker 1: the Begoula's uh in Buffalo just uh you know, had 1428 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,439 Speaker 1: a uh can I call it my no hair moment? 1429 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,439 Speaker 1: It's not a blonde moment anymore because I don't have 1430 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 1: enough hair to claim that. Coming up next here Fox 1431 01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:59,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio, Uh, who are the five Star cities? We'll 1432 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,519 Speaker 1: try to answer that and make it all make sense. 1433 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,040 Speaker 1: Next to you on Fox get those dancing shoes on 1434 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,880 Speaker 1: early on a Sunday morning. Welcome back in Fox Sports Radios. 1435 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,240 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Harmon, Danbyer live from the tire 1436 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,679 Speaker 1: rack dot Com studio. I'm gonna start playing the Spoons 1437 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 1: here any second on the podcast. This will make no sense, 1438 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,880 Speaker 1: but the throwback to the Cotton Eyed Joe and the 1439 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,680 Speaker 1: tennis tournament just a random song to start playing in 1440 01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,120 Speaker 1: the middle of a tournament, by the way, but Dan Byron, 1441 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:31,960 Speaker 1: maybe that could be your new walk up music as 1442 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:33,440 Speaker 1: I hand you the stick microphone. 1443 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 2: No, we've got some different music to play, Mike Carmen, 1444 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 2: And it sounds a little something like this. Let's get 1445 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:43,559 Speaker 2: the Fox family together and play the feud. There it is, Sorry, 1446 01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:49,040 Speaker 2: Cotton Eye, Joe, Mike, Chris, Shae, Isaac all making up 1447 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:53,920 Speaker 2: the Fox family. Where's Shay go? Where Shae? It hits 1448 01:16:53,960 --> 01:17:00,160 Speaker 2: the boys room for a second. There's there's the one 1449 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,519 Speaker 2: segment we need them. He has disappeared. All right, we'll 1450 01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 2: get We'll get to the state. That same thing about 1451 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,599 Speaker 2: Clark Kent. By the way, we only got three minutes. 1452 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,120 Speaker 2: All right, I guess it's gonna be you guys, top 1453 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:16,280 Speaker 2: ten answers on the board, ready for this. Yeah, this 1454 01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,200 Speaker 2: is basically where the feud is originated. It's all based 1455 01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:24,200 Speaker 2: on this question. This is the originator. The ten metro 1456 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:28,839 Speaker 2: areas or cities that have teams in all five major 1457 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:34,360 Speaker 2: sports leagues NFL, Major League Baseball, NBA, NHL, and Mlso 1458 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 2: there are ten markets, we'll put it that way that 1459 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,240 Speaker 2: have all five teams. I want to know what they are. 1460 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,559 Speaker 2: Three strikes in a pass available, Mike Carmen, who we 1461 01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:46,000 Speaker 2: start with you? 1462 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna take the Los Angeles Giant Metro 1463 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:49,760 Speaker 1: and move on. 1464 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,000 Speaker 2: All right, chill me La. There they are on the list. Yeah, 1465 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,719 Speaker 2: they got a bunch in a bunch of different leagues. 1466 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,799 Speaker 2: They are one of the ten. Over to Chris Perfetts. Easy, 1467 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna just keep taking the big ones off here. 1468 01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,160 Speaker 2: Show me Chicago, okay, Hey, the hometown of one Mike Harmon, 1469 01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:09,679 Speaker 2: Show me Chicago. There it is two for two? Still 1470 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 2: no Shay or for two Isaac glowing. 1471 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,880 Speaker 5: Prom I'm gonna go with maybe one of the under 1472 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:15,719 Speaker 5: the radar ones. 1473 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,760 Speaker 2: Philadelphia, Philadelphia? Are they under the radars? Show me the 1474 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:20,840 Speaker 2: city of brotherly love? 1475 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:22,000 Speaker 7: All right? 1476 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:26,919 Speaker 2: One, three, four, five teams in Philadelphia? Three for three? 1477 01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,639 Speaker 2: We'd go to Shay. He's not here. Let's go around 1478 01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:30,439 Speaker 2: to Mike Harvin. 1479 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,639 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back here in the tire at dot Com 1480 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Studios. How about Atlanta? 1481 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:40,960 Speaker 2: Atlanta? Great? Guess is it Atlanta? It is no hockey team? 1482 01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:45,599 Speaker 2: All right, I'll host the San Chritz this is my show, 1483 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,160 Speaker 2: I bet all right, Yes, there's no hockey team, Mike, 1484 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,519 Speaker 2: all right, Atlanta? First strike? 1485 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:56,040 Speaker 8: Over to Chris, Okay, are we counting all of the 1486 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,120 Speaker 8: New England teams like Foxborough, et cetera. 1487 01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:02,320 Speaker 2: That's market. Yes, yes, show me, yes, yeah, show me Boston. 1488 01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,799 Speaker 2: Why not, Chris, you want to do the show yourself. 1489 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,599 Speaker 2: I mean, geez, you're taking my lines and everything. Shay, 1490 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,920 Speaker 2: since you were gone. We are looking at the top 1491 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,920 Speaker 2: the ten metro area's market cities that are home to 1492 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:21,280 Speaker 2: five all five professional sports in the US. That's the NFL, NBA, 1493 01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:25,160 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, NHL, and MLS. Off the board are Chicago, LA, 1494 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:26,320 Speaker 2: and Philadelphia. 1495 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,840 Speaker 7: It has to be a US yes, okay, Houston. 1496 01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:36,280 Speaker 2: Is it Houston? No? Sorry, no, NHL in Houston? Good guess? 1497 01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,680 Speaker 2: Two strikes. Over to Isaac Longcron. 1498 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,920 Speaker 5: Oh, great, pressures on me. Then Washington, DC. 1499 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,920 Speaker 2: Is it the district? Show me the district of Columbia. 1500 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,280 Speaker 2: There it is Washington, d C. On the board. Over 1501 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:54,720 Speaker 2: to Mike Carmon, looking for cities and our home to 1502 01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 2: the five major sports. 1503 01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:01,599 Speaker 1: Chicago, LA is part of death. Yeah yeah, okay, So 1504 01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:02,439 Speaker 1: I'll take Dallas. 1505 01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:08,599 Speaker 2: Show me Dallas there it is big d as well one, two, three, four, 1506 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,759 Speaker 2: five in Dallas. Over to Chris. 1507 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,920 Speaker 8: Okay, let me let me work on my vocabulary. I'm 1508 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,639 Speaker 8: gonna go with Miami. Miami, show me Miami. 1509 01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,479 Speaker 2: All right, there we go. We got six. Shay, you 1510 01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,000 Speaker 2: got another one a city that's home to all five 1511 01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:29,559 Speaker 2: major sports leagues. Oh man, I know, and we're running 1512 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:30,080 Speaker 2: out of time. 1513 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,160 Speaker 7: Oh man, I'm just gonna throw a random one out there. 1514 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,559 Speaker 7: Let's go. Did someone in say New York? 1515 01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:40,480 Speaker 2: No, nobody, show me New York and we will conclude 1516 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,480 Speaker 2: the feud next How about that, Mike Carmen. 1517 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,160 Speaker 1: That is a good call here for the tire Rack Studios. 1518 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 1: Greetings and welcome in our three of the program this morning, 1519 01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,000 Speaker 1: live from the tirerac dot com studios. Tire act dot 1520 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,679 Speaker 1: com will help you get there an unmatched selection, fast 1521 01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,479 Speaker 1: free shipping, free road azerd protection and over ten thousand 1522 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:04,320 Speaker 1: recommended installers. Tirerac dot com The Way tire buying should 1523 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,479 Speaker 1: be coming up In just a couple of minutes, we'll 1524 01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:11,639 Speaker 1: get into the leak of Christmas Day games for the NBA. 1525 01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,400 Speaker 1: That's fine and good, but we've got NFL to talk about, 1526 01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,840 Speaker 1: and how do we translate that into our excitement and 1527 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,400 Speaker 1: schedule watching and making things a marquee event. But we've 1528 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 1: got some unfinished business, Dan Byrn we do. 1529 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,639 Speaker 2: We have to finish the feud we have to finish 1530 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,920 Speaker 2: the feud because this could be the last time Mike 1531 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,559 Speaker 2: and I are together in the mornings for a little while. 1532 01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:38,240 Speaker 2: So I'm on vacation next week, so there's yes, I 1533 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,640 Speaker 2: need something off and I am I Am, I am. 1534 01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:42,880 Speaker 1: Fantasy Draft Part two. 1535 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:47,840 Speaker 2: No, that unfortunately up in last week, and I wasn't 1536 01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,519 Speaker 2: in a full draft mode either. 1537 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,639 Speaker 1: No, I know it takes a while to ramp up. 1538 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,400 Speaker 2: You hear the music. We're playing the feud here. It's 1539 01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 2: the first time we've ever extended it into the next 1540 01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,960 Speaker 2: segment because we have the top ten answers on the board, 1541 01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:02,840 Speaker 2: and we got eight of them, and then we just 1542 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,960 Speaker 2: ran out of time. There were three strikes. We didn't 1543 01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,120 Speaker 2: get the board cleared out, so there are two more answers, 1544 01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,719 Speaker 2: and we were looking for these top ten answers. And truly, 1545 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,600 Speaker 2: when when we started doing the feud MIC, it was 1546 01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:19,519 Speaker 2: based off of the sports question. What were the cities 1547 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:24,080 Speaker 2: in the United States that had the four then four 1548 01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:28,160 Speaker 2: major sports teams in them. We're adding the MLS to 1549 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:33,160 Speaker 2: make it five. There are ten markets metropolitan area cities 1550 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:37,559 Speaker 2: where they are home to all five of the major 1551 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:42,959 Speaker 2: sports leagues. We've got eight of them so far Boston, Chicago, Dallas, LA, Miami, 1552 01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,639 Speaker 2: New York, Philadelphia, and Washington, d C. We were about 1553 01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:50,760 Speaker 2: to go to Isaac glohingcron back against the wall. There 1554 01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,320 Speaker 2: is a pass available if you want. There are two strikes, Isaac, 1555 01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:55,680 Speaker 2: it is over to you. 1556 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:04,040 Speaker 5: I'm going to go Minneapolis slash Saint Paul because the 1557 01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,400 Speaker 5: hockey team's in Saint Paul. Minneapolis, Saint Paul. 1558 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,559 Speaker 2: Show me the Twin cities there, It is all right, 1559 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,040 Speaker 2: number nine. Was there any any looking up of that 1560 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,040 Speaker 2: Isaac Lohan crown in the last eight minutes when we 1561 01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:19,040 Speaker 2: were we were away or is this eight minutes or nine? 1562 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,640 Speaker 5: And no, I'm just kidding fortuitously for some reason, I 1563 01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,719 Speaker 5: actually am one of the there's actually a major league 1564 01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,520 Speaker 5: soccer team I know in Minneapolis. 1565 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Mike Carmen. It comes down to. 1566 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,479 Speaker 1: You can I can I do what we were just 1567 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,360 Speaker 1: talking about the fantasy draft when the guy steals your 1568 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,599 Speaker 1: pick and then you're left dumbfounded and you can't think 1569 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,840 Speaker 1: of anything else, because I did the whole Minnesota Like, 1570 01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, and they're here and there and 1571 01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 1: so like I don't know, I know, and that would 1572 01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:49,960 Speaker 1: be strike three. 1573 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,679 Speaker 2: It's been a rocky road, but hopefully there's a little 1574 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,240 Speaker 2: nugget there for you to maybe get this this bad boy. 1575 01:23:56,320 --> 01:24:04,840 Speaker 2: Any thoughts popping in your Denver? Denver? Oh? Man, that 1576 01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:06,439 Speaker 2: was an avalanche of a hint. 1577 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:12,200 Speaker 1: That was. That was beautiful, rapid, rapid answer, ically done. Yeah, 1578 01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,439 Speaker 1: I mean I really did. It fired off so quickly. 1579 01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,559 Speaker 1: I man, that was There was no bucket hat or 1580 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,240 Speaker 1: standing around for me there. 1581 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,240 Speaker 2: It is. It's a it's an interesting list as well, 1582 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,960 Speaker 2: especially when you're thinking of cities and you know a 1583 01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,960 Speaker 2: couple of the strikes, you're like, all right, I can't 1584 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,120 Speaker 2: I forgot that that city didn't have that. 1585 01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, Chris, I kept I kept thinking Bay Area. Then 1586 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,839 Speaker 8: I realized it's that split because like the hot hockey 1587 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,400 Speaker 8: team and MLS are down in San Jose. Yeah, and 1588 01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 8: I don't know if that Yeah, that probably doesn't count 1589 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,320 Speaker 8: unless you're counting the entire I didn't. 1590 01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,400 Speaker 2: I did not count those two, but I mean I 1591 01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:49,320 Speaker 2: guess we could have as well. 1592 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean that that is a thirty mile Yes, they're intended. 1593 01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think their name is San Jose. They're 1594 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,719 Speaker 5: not the baita it is. Yeah, it's the Quakes. 1595 01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so if you if you use that, you 1596 01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,360 Speaker 2: can give yourself a half point. I got of dig 1597 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:03,720 Speaker 2: that though. 1598 01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:07,559 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the good exercise of where where you 1599 01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,920 Speaker 1: find your franchises and sustaining five sports as well. 1600 01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,720 Speaker 2: Atlanta had the Thrashers at one point. I don't think 1601 01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:15,760 Speaker 2: this is where I went to a meetia. 1602 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly paying a lot of attention to NHL movement. 1603 01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:20,200 Speaker 1: I do my college football. 1604 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,000 Speaker 2: But no, you know that they've got the soccer team 1605 01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,479 Speaker 2: that they love there, but I don't. They weren't together 1606 01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,640 Speaker 2: at the same time in that city. But it's just 1607 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:34,400 Speaker 2: that it's a unique it's a unique list of cities, 1608 01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,920 Speaker 2: a lot more three teamers than you would think. But 1609 01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:42,920 Speaker 2: you know, Houston's got four, Chris nos Detroit's got four. 1610 01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:47,360 Speaker 2: It's just an interesting list for sure. Phoenix is four. 1611 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,920 Speaker 2: They don't have a soccer they don't have an MLS team. 1612 01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:52,400 Speaker 2: So there you go. 1613 01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,960 Speaker 1: There, there we went through a great exercise reminder pride 1614 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,639 Speaker 1: of Detroit at Chris purfet uh soccer knowledge as well 1615 01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,960 Speaker 1: as all things for the really other than the Jets, 1616 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:08,880 Speaker 1: the most type team in the NFL offseason, the Detroit Lions. 1617 01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:12,360 Speaker 1: People excited Jamison Williams obviously starting with a suspension, but 1618 01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,320 Speaker 1: a lot of talk about him the potential for the 1619 01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:18,599 Speaker 1: spectacular once he returns Jared Goff and company. So check 1620 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:22,000 Speaker 1: him out at Chris Purfett, find Dan at Dan Byron, Fox, 1621 01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:25,639 Speaker 1: of course, Ilo at Isaac Loewen Kron, and me over 1622 01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,360 Speaker 1: at Swollendome if you want to curse at me for 1623 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,519 Speaker 1: something I got wrong, or you know, just the the 1624 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,439 Speaker 1: takes and opinions that are mine and not Fox Sports 1625 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:38,040 Speaker 1: Radios or the management thereof Dan. Something you and I 1626 01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:41,120 Speaker 1: have talked about a lot during our years together is, 1627 01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, always trying to figure out that next jump 1628 01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,800 Speaker 1: off moment for the NFL schedule. We celebrate it when 1629 01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,840 Speaker 1: it gets released right that morning you're updating all your 1630 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,160 Speaker 1: social media. We add another one because you know the opponents. 1631 01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,400 Speaker 1: But then it's just a matter of the sequencing prime 1632 01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:01,160 Speaker 1: time events and all of those how many did we get, Oh, 1633 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,240 Speaker 1: they think we're gonna stink, so we only got one, 1634 01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:08,639 Speaker 1: and all of those kind of circumstances. But the NBA 1635 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,759 Speaker 1: this week, you know, set everybody is at the world 1636 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,799 Speaker 1: a blaze by the leak of the Christmas Day games. 1637 01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,240 Speaker 1: Sure always excited, and like people start getting very offended. 1638 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,280 Speaker 1: Right we're in Los Angeles, so Clipper fans were pretty 1639 01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,160 Speaker 1: salty that they weren't included, Like, you can't guarantee me 1640 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,719 Speaker 1: that your stars are playing, and obviously injuries are part 1641 01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:33,240 Speaker 1: of it and whatever. But the consideration is what we 1642 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,640 Speaker 1: know and what we've seen of the squad. Do we 1643 01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,439 Speaker 1: think it's important for Paul George and Kawhi Leonard to 1644 01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:39,800 Speaker 1: get out of court Christmas Day? 1645 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:40,360 Speaker 9: No? 1646 01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,679 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody just says, okay, we can count 1647 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,840 Speaker 1: that no matter what the circumstances, they're going to try 1648 01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,360 Speaker 1: to battle to be on the court because the December 1649 01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,960 Speaker 1: game to them doesn't matter, it's the are you ready 1650 01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,679 Speaker 1: for April? So for the NFL, you know, primetime games 1651 01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,439 Speaker 1: are a big deal. Hard knocks and who ended up 1652 01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 1: doing it was a big deal. But trying to find 1653 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,120 Speaker 1: those equivalent to get folks excited outside of the opening 1654 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:08,000 Speaker 1: day and Thanksgiving? Can you find similar? 1655 01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:08,240 Speaker 4: No? 1656 01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,040 Speaker 2: And the funny thing is is TV Networks too, Mike 1657 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,960 Speaker 2: will argue over what games that they want in. 1658 01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:14,639 Speaker 1: The conected game. 1659 01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, the most you know, the it's not that all 1660 01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:21,120 Speaker 2: of them go to the prime time slot. On Sunday 1661 01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:25,880 Speaker 2: Night football. CBS and Fox want certain matchups for themselves 1662 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:30,000 Speaker 2: as well, monster matchups throughout the season, and the NBA 1663 01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:34,200 Speaker 2: has the ability because everybody plays everybody, and everybody plays 1664 01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 2: everybody twice at least during an NBA season, So you 1665 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:42,360 Speaker 2: have some flexibility in making your Christmas Day schedule, and 1666 01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:44,479 Speaker 2: now with the end season tournament, you even have some 1667 01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:50,200 Speaker 2: flexibility in making that schedule out a certain way. So 1668 01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:54,880 Speaker 2: when you see the Christmas Day schedule that comes out, 1669 01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,280 Speaker 2: what you realize is is it is Mike. There is 1670 01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,240 Speaker 2: a reason that people get mad because it is a 1671 01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,640 Speaker 2: ranking of who is important in who is not, who 1672 01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,840 Speaker 2: is the bigger brands. And I would argue that you've 1673 01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:09,559 Speaker 2: got of the ten teams that you've put in this 1674 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:13,920 Speaker 2: Christmas Day schedule, you may have eight of ten, you 1675 01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:15,400 Speaker 2: may have nine of ten, you may have ten of 1676 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:19,280 Speaker 2: ten of the most popular teams in the NBA. And 1677 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,240 Speaker 2: if you were to do that in the NFL, I 1678 01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,920 Speaker 2: think you would have an amazing schedule. And we know 1679 01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,439 Speaker 2: that the NFL has wanted to play games on Christmas Day, 1680 01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,920 Speaker 2: and in fact has done so in the past and 1681 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,559 Speaker 2: has kind of taken over the day from the NBA 1682 01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,240 Speaker 2: because of the schedule the NFL puts together. But what 1683 01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,599 Speaker 2: the NFL doesn't have, Mike, is the ability to say, 1684 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:42,840 Speaker 2: we're going to put our two most popular teams and 1685 01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,640 Speaker 2: have them play because it may not work out in 1686 01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:49,519 Speaker 2: the way that the schedule revolves. But I thought, why 1687 01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:52,360 Speaker 2: not try to figure out what an NFL Christmas Day 1688 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,880 Speaker 2: schedule would look like without the restrictions. And I think 1689 01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:57,479 Speaker 2: the way that you do that is you have to 1690 01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,479 Speaker 2: look and figure out, all, right, who are the eight 1691 01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,280 Speaker 2: most pot popular teams right now in the National Football League. 1692 01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:06,320 Speaker 2: So I would think that the Chiefs would be one, 1693 01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:10,120 Speaker 2: right they Super Bowl in the one seed. Absolutely absolutely. 1694 01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,720 Speaker 2: I'd put the Buffalo Bills in there. 1695 01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,280 Speaker 1: A lot of hype, a lot of expectation. Sure on 1696 01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:16,200 Speaker 1: the AFC. 1697 01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:19,479 Speaker 2: Side, forty nine Ers in Eagles NFC Championship game. Yep, 1698 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,760 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys have to be in that conversation. And 1699 01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,599 Speaker 2: I'd also put the Cincinnati Bengals. 1700 01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,200 Speaker 1: Like for Bengals where they're at right now, I take 1701 01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:31,120 Speaker 1: their division mate, the Steelers. They always travel well, you 1702 01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:32,439 Speaker 1: always watch Steeler games. 1703 01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:34,439 Speaker 2: With the Steelers on there. For sure. I think you 1704 01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:38,040 Speaker 2: could put a team like honestly, the Lions. You just 1705 01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,479 Speaker 2: talked about. There's a lot of buzz about the Lions 1706 01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:42,920 Speaker 2: right now. So you're trying to figure out who are 1707 01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,320 Speaker 2: the top teams? Who do you want to watch Chargers? 1708 01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,240 Speaker 2: I'd want to watch the Chargers play. Heck, they got 1709 01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,200 Speaker 2: a lot of love and being flexed last year. I 1710 01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:52,120 Speaker 2: felt there was like a four week stretch where they 1711 01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:53,920 Speaker 2: were on Sunday Night Football. 1712 01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,400 Speaker 1: Every single week saying meaningful games. And let's face it, 1713 01:30:56,479 --> 01:31:01,120 Speaker 1: there is and we at the risk of bringing up old, 1714 01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,800 Speaker 1: old kind of tropes of things like there are quarterbacks, 1715 01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,160 Speaker 1: there are players, there are teams that folks want to 1716 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:11,360 Speaker 1: see see in primetime and see succeed Justin Herbert's a 1717 01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,559 Speaker 1: guy that you get a lot of coverage for what 1718 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,680 Speaker 1: has been a mediocre team, like he's been fantastic, he 1719 01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,840 Speaker 1: got paid this offseason. But when you really break down 1720 01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:21,680 Speaker 1: the team, there's still a lot of finger pointing over 1721 01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,920 Speaker 1: at Brandon Staley, at least for the moment. How much 1722 01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:29,880 Speaker 1: becomes the deification of Kellen Moore. If this offense truly 1723 01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,920 Speaker 1: does hit another level remains to be seen. 1724 01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,960 Speaker 2: Jets, I'm sorry, but you got to put it. 1725 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, for this year, they have to be there. 1726 01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,280 Speaker 2: All right, So we've kind of got a we've kind 1727 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:41,000 Speaker 2: of got a template. 1728 01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's ten. 1729 01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,360 Speaker 2: So here here's what I would I would put's and 1730 01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:46,400 Speaker 2: it may not be all those teams. 1731 01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:47,040 Speaker 1: That's eight. 1732 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's but we're understanding. We have an understanding 1733 01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:54,080 Speaker 2: of where we're going with this. The NBA schedule for 1734 01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:56,879 Speaker 2: the Christmas Day was Bucks at Nicks, six Ers at Heat, 1735 01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:59,400 Speaker 2: Celtics at Lakers. I mean, you can't get any more 1736 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:03,919 Speaker 2: NBA than Celtics at Lakers, Mavericks at Suns, Warriors at Nuggets. 1737 01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:09,800 Speaker 2: And while it may not be the rivalry in the NFL, 1738 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,920 Speaker 2: I would think that the Celtics Lakers version of what 1739 01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,439 Speaker 2: we would have in the NFL would be the number 1740 01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:18,040 Speaker 2: one team in the AFC, which I think is the 1741 01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:21,160 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, and I think it's the most popular 1742 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:24,280 Speaker 2: team in the NFC, and that would be the Dallas Cowboys. 1743 01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:28,800 Speaker 2: I think a Chiefs Cowboys game would be perfect for 1744 01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,400 Speaker 2: a Christmas Day matchup. It's the most I think it 1745 01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:33,200 Speaker 2: would be the most popular game in the NFL. 1746 01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,880 Speaker 1: Puts it to all sorts of height. Yeah, and can 1747 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:40,080 Speaker 1: Dak rise up and all of the expectation and hype there. 1748 01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:41,519 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of pressure going on. He 1749 01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,719 Speaker 1: still hasn't gotten paid. On the other side, Mahomes after 1750 01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:48,080 Speaker 1: the Quarterback Show on Netflix, you saw a different side 1751 01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:51,360 Speaker 1: of him. Travis Kelcey. I've about had it with his 1752 01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:55,200 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes who he is. But you know that keeps going. 1753 01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,360 Speaker 1: He's a Hall of Famer and the growth of his 1754 01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:00,800 Speaker 1: brand and everything is good. He'd like that he tried 1755 01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,679 Speaker 1: to shoot a shot with Taylor Swift in the bracelet, 1756 01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:07,080 Speaker 1: which it can Yeah, no, exactly, take advantage of the opportunities. 1757 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, that's a matchup that'll get tongues 1758 01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:10,760 Speaker 1: wagon in a lot of eyeballs. 1759 01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:14,120 Speaker 2: So again, they don't play each other this year. But 1760 01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:16,640 Speaker 2: if that was not a restriction, that would be my 1761 01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:19,840 Speaker 2: NFL Christmas Day game, my number two game. It's the 1762 01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:24,519 Speaker 2: Chris Berman Super Bowl pick Niners Bills. Now, that would 1763 01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:27,040 Speaker 2: be magnificent. I think it's made that pick for like 1764 01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:29,920 Speaker 2: thirty seven straight years did and I'm sure we're probably 1765 01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,720 Speaker 2: gonna get it again this year. Niners Bills would be 1766 01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:34,920 Speaker 2: on my schedule. Now you're saying, well, what about the 1767 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,520 Speaker 2: Eagles they went to the Super Bowl. How about Bengals Eagles. 1768 01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:42,439 Speaker 2: How nice would that be? Another cross conference game? We're 1769 01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:46,600 Speaker 2: getting some cross conference action here. So that's what I 1770 01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,280 Speaker 2: put in my top three games. Now we're going to 1771 01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,360 Speaker 2: kind of get into the the to round out the schedule, 1772 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,760 Speaker 2: because like the NBA may maybe Bucks Knicks doesn't do 1773 01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:58,599 Speaker 2: it for a lot of people because for me, but 1774 01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:00,600 Speaker 2: you know, I'm a bucks Man and New York, but 1775 01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,920 Speaker 2: maybe people out on the West Coast don't care as much. 1776 01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:06,559 Speaker 2: You gotta have Aaron Rodgers in the game. And I thought, 1777 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,840 Speaker 2: you know what, maybe maybe a matchup against Tua and 1778 01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:10,920 Speaker 2: the Dolphins, like we see that twice a year. Anyway, 1779 01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:15,479 Speaker 2: how about Jets Jaguars double j with that offense, the. 1780 01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:17,080 Speaker 1: Old guy against yes guy. 1781 01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:21,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, how fun of a game would that be? And 1782 01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:25,959 Speaker 2: and considering I'm looking for fun, let's do Lions Chargers. 1783 01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,960 Speaker 2: That would be the final That would be final one. Yes, 1784 01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,760 Speaker 2: I think those would be great. No offense. Steelers. I 1785 01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:33,200 Speaker 2: just don't want to I think you're gonna have a 1786 01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,280 Speaker 2: great season. I just don't want to watch your games. 1787 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:39,759 Speaker 2: But I think that these other games here, Jaguars, Jets, Lions, 1788 01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:42,599 Speaker 2: Chargers would be fun games to watch. How many points 1789 01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:45,240 Speaker 2: would be scored in Lions Chargers, you know what I mean? Like, 1790 01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,320 Speaker 2: how great would that be? You got two teams that 1791 01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,920 Speaker 2: are hot, expectations, great uniforms for both. 1792 01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,320 Speaker 1: Gonna be a Brandon Stalley decision in the final two 1793 01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,520 Speaker 1: minutes in the game. So what everybody wants. 1794 01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:59,000 Speaker 2: When it's forty two, you know the thirty nine. That's 1795 01:34:59,000 --> 01:34:59,880 Speaker 2: what I dig that. 1796 01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,519 Speaker 1: And obviously this year you also have the This would 1797 01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:06,519 Speaker 1: be another great wrinkle for the battles for games because 1798 01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:09,679 Speaker 1: the rights changed, right, it was always a AFC NFC. 1799 01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:13,040 Speaker 1: All right, you're on CBS, you're on Fox, and now 1800 01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:16,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of a potpourrie and a free for all. 1801 01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:19,160 Speaker 1: Now you're you're vying for these games in terms of 1802 01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:23,040 Speaker 1: what you're protecting and clinging onto and getting the rights to. 1803 01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:23,880 Speaker 1: I love it. 1804 01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:27,320 Speaker 2: That's it. It's not gonna happen because the NFL is 1805 01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:30,240 Speaker 2: so strict with their scheduling and their policies, and they 1806 01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,679 Speaker 2: make a boring schedule. Mike and I have talked about 1807 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:34,719 Speaker 2: it one hundred times, how the Giants and Jets should 1808 01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,840 Speaker 2: play each other every single year, But there are even 1809 01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:41,160 Speaker 2: restrictions that would not allow us to see some great games. 1810 01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:44,320 Speaker 2: I just think I think Chiefs Cowboys, and we've seen 1811 01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,400 Speaker 2: a Chiefs Niner Super Bowl, we saw it a few 1812 01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:49,880 Speaker 2: years back. We just saw Chiefs Eagles. So to have 1813 01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,360 Speaker 2: the two best teams, I don't know. Still, the Cowboys 1814 01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:55,559 Speaker 2: brand is so heavy. You know, maybe if Aaron Rodgers 1815 01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:57,920 Speaker 2: was back in Green Bay and you know, another Chiefs 1816 01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,479 Speaker 2: Packers showed out. But I just think that of all 1817 01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:02,639 Speaker 2: the games that you could possibly play in the NFL, 1818 01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,479 Speaker 2: a Chiefs Cowboys game, which by the way, I know 1819 01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,040 Speaker 2: they played a year or two ago. It didn't It 1820 01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,439 Speaker 2: wasn't the high scoring affair that we thought it was 1821 01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:13,240 Speaker 2: going to be. But like you play in Dallas, on 1822 01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:17,360 Speaker 2: that surface, I think we'd have some we'd have some 1823 01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:20,679 Speaker 2: explosive offense going on. And if you're a Cowboy hater, 1824 01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:23,479 Speaker 2: maybe you'd see the Chiefs, you know, fly pass. 1825 01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:26,800 Speaker 1: Well and you start getting a little a little sad 1826 01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,639 Speaker 1: because we're gonna be uh, Christmas Day on a Tuesday 1827 01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:32,560 Speaker 1: and Wednesday here soon enough. Yes, all right, then we 1828 01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,559 Speaker 1: got to take it. You gotta cycle that out for 1829 01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,840 Speaker 1: a couple of years until we get back towards the weekend. 1830 01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:41,559 Speaker 1: He's Dan buyer, He's an innovator, He's a forward thinker 1831 01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:43,360 Speaker 1: and a guy looking to make you a lot of 1832 01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:46,559 Speaker 1: money at Dan Byron Fox. Find me over at Swollen Dome. 1833 01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,080 Speaker 1: We're brought to you by Progressive Insurance. 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Guys that 1842 01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,920 Speaker 1: you should be paying attention to later in your drafts. 1843 01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,840 Speaker 1: He's Dan on Mike and this is Fox Sports Sunday. Hey, 1844 01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:22,160 Speaker 1: welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radios. Fox Sports Sunday 1845 01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:25,720 Speaker 1: Live Fromthetirac dot Com Studios. Mike Carmen, Dan Byer with 1846 01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:29,200 Speaker 1: you here. Enjoying a little bit of kickball action. I 1847 01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:33,320 Speaker 1: just saw someone try to bunt in kickball. Unfortunately they 1848 01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:35,479 Speaker 1: got under it a little bit, so an easy pop 1849 01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:38,479 Speaker 1: out to end the inning. But Dan we've got live action. 1850 01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:42,120 Speaker 1: It's just all action whenever we can get it. Twenty 1851 01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:42,679 Speaker 1: four to seven. 1852 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,360 Speaker 2: Here, we had horse shoes earlier on in the day. 1853 01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,840 Speaker 1: That some slide stare competition. 1854 01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:52,320 Speaker 2: I was glad to see horseshoes because cornhole and bags, 1855 01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,920 Speaker 2: however you want to call it, is you really taken over. 1856 01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,599 Speaker 2: But if you play horseshoes, you're an og. 1857 01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:00,960 Speaker 1: I just like the fact that most of those guys 1858 01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:05,120 Speaker 1: looked our age, perhaps another decade or two older. Yes, 1859 01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,000 Speaker 1: So it's like, all right, competitive sports continues. 1860 01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,439 Speaker 2: Where I'm from, there wasn't a tavern that didn't have 1861 01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:17,719 Speaker 2: at least, you know, for sure, horse or place. Yeah, 1862 01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,800 Speaker 2: but you got the wood backing as well. There's a 1863 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:22,800 Speaker 2: little in a little sand to make it worse. 1864 01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:26,080 Speaker 1: Sure, But you know, now we're seeing so many places 1865 01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:30,360 Speaker 1: convert to axe throwing opportunities for folks, which mixed with 1866 01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:33,960 Speaker 1: alcohol doesn't seem like a good idea insurance wise. I'd 1867 01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:37,400 Speaker 1: love to know the particulars of that. But that's the 1868 01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:41,960 Speaker 1: next iteration, not to mention land has become a little harder, right, 1869 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:43,559 Speaker 1: if you've got to add it off to the back 1870 01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:45,800 Speaker 1: of the tavern, which a lot of those places did, 1871 01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:49,040 Speaker 1: you'd have a nice little patio section where you'd have 1872 01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,559 Speaker 1: that those kind of activities corded off. 1873 01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:57,400 Speaker 2: The days of horseshoes in softball, diamonds are being replaced 1874 01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:03,000 Speaker 2: by corn hall and axe throwing, kickball courts and soccer pitches. 1875 01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:05,200 Speaker 1: So we did the report a couple of weeks ago. 1876 01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:09,519 Speaker 1: I mean, how much you know the pickeld is going 1877 01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:13,000 Speaker 1: to be uh, you know, hitting the insurance companies and 1878 01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:16,800 Speaker 1: injuries and time missed whenever they do those Challenger and 1879 01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:21,000 Speaker 1: Christmas surveys about what fantasy football and betting do. Now 1880 01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,960 Speaker 1: we're going to start act adding in all the pickleball injuries. 1881 01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:26,799 Speaker 2: Nothing like the old clang of the horseshoe though. 1882 01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:30,200 Speaker 1: No, that's it when you when you ringer, yeah, there's yeah, 1883 01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:33,040 Speaker 1: it is about the most unmistakable sound. 1884 01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:36,000 Speaker 2: Nothing like it. And of course the pitcher on this 1885 01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:38,639 Speaker 2: softball game which is on ESPN two. 1886 01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:40,879 Speaker 1: The hotel yes today, yes. 1887 01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:43,000 Speaker 2: Number sixty nine. Of course. 1888 01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:49,160 Speaker 1: He's also a good uh of course, three spins. I 1889 01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:52,600 Speaker 1: don't know how he's a left. If you've got to, 1890 01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:54,200 Speaker 1: i'd test him. 1891 01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:57,839 Speaker 2: All right, cooking right, kicking a lineup. 1892 01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:02,200 Speaker 1: But that was a nice chess pass by the third 1893 01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:05,000 Speaker 1: baseman to get the out there is now when talking 1894 01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,320 Speaker 1: about kickball. 1895 01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:10,439 Speaker 2: The it's kickball, people love it. 1896 01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:12,920 Speaker 1: No exactly. Hey, it's nice and easy. You get a 1897 01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:16,679 Speaker 1: ten dollars rubber ball, just a patch of grass, get after. 1898 01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:20,400 Speaker 1: It's nice and easy. 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Sponsored by tire Ac dot Com. The way 1909 01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,519 Speaker 1: tire buying should be another winner getting chosen later on. 1910 01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:56,240 Speaker 2: To date, that's pretty awesome. Not as awesome as the 1911 01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:58,160 Speaker 2: guy who just took the first two pitches at the 1912 01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:01,720 Speaker 2: kickball match and was down two in the count. I 1913 01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:04,040 Speaker 2: don't know. If you shorten up your kick, that's what 1914 01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:04,519 Speaker 2: you do. 1915 01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:06,240 Speaker 1: You try to make contact at that point. 1916 01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:08,280 Speaker 2: Yes, anyway, all right. 1917 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,280 Speaker 1: You're trying to get hit by the ball, like, hey, 1918 01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,760 Speaker 1: take one to the team, all right, damn meyern. The 1919 01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:19,360 Speaker 1: fantasy draft season is upon us. You last last week, 1920 01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,720 Speaker 1: you took one for the team. You guys drafted a 1921 01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:25,320 Speaker 1: lot earlier than you wanted to. Yes, And I could 1922 01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,960 Speaker 1: see it on your face that it's still problematic. I'm 1923 01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:31,080 Speaker 1: doing all these industry things and then you know, starting 1924 01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:35,800 Speaker 1: to get into the long guillotine league eighteen teams and 1925 01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:38,479 Speaker 1: we're in round twelve, So now it's all right, which 1926 01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:42,120 Speaker 1: guy will actually see the field beyond the third preseason 1927 01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:45,000 Speaker 1: game is some of the guesswork that you start to 1928 01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:48,400 Speaker 1: do at that point. Another long, slow draft going, and 1929 01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:53,120 Speaker 1: that's squat. I'm feeling pretty good about draft staples. For me. 1930 01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:58,759 Speaker 1: I seem to have found myself rationalizing Lamar Jackson a bunch. 1931 01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:01,840 Speaker 1: I also have your guy DK Metcalf, so he can't 1932 01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:05,519 Speaker 1: let me down. But what's interesting in this draft season 1933 01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,200 Speaker 1: is we still have just a giant question mark at 1934 01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:11,600 Speaker 1: the running back position because of all the holdouts, holdings, 1935 01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:13,800 Speaker 1: everything else. And talked about it at the start of 1936 01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:16,040 Speaker 1: the show. I had literally made a pick right before 1937 01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,479 Speaker 1: we started. It was my turn, and I drafted Melvin Gordon, 1938 01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:22,040 Speaker 1: who's in camp with the Ravens and from all accounts 1939 01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:25,439 Speaker 1: looking leaner, meaner, and looking like he's a guy that 1940 01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:29,439 Speaker 1: wants some level of a significant workload in that squad. 1941 01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:31,120 Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, I'll take a shot. Because 1942 01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:34,559 Speaker 1: while they've changed everything with Todd Mounkin and again Lamar 1943 01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,120 Speaker 1: Jackson is a guy I think his prime for a 1944 01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:41,880 Speaker 1: big year. You're not abandoning your identity altogether, right, still 1945 01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:45,120 Speaker 1: about finding it out. John Harbaugh is still there no 1946 01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:47,840 Speaker 1: matter what you do with your coordinators. He has had 1947 01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,439 Speaker 1: a winning brand of football for years. But we talk 1948 01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:54,880 Speaker 1: about Josh Jacobs. Will they go sign Damian Williams Now 1949 01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,639 Speaker 1: obviously apples to oranges in terms of where they're at 1950 01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:03,679 Speaker 1: on their career timelines and all. But you're starting to 1951 01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:07,600 Speaker 1: sign warm bodies to a degree. But also it's insurance 1952 01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:10,360 Speaker 1: in the event Josh Jacobs doesn't decide to show up 1953 01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:14,760 Speaker 1: to camp. Yes, so we've got Jacobs, You've got Jonathan 1954 01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:18,439 Speaker 1: Taylor in his situation. You look at I mean, Austin 1955 01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,640 Speaker 1: Eckler's in camp, He's gonna play. He's still making his 1956 01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:23,880 Speaker 1: six million dollars, But in terms of his workload, how 1957 01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:26,559 Speaker 1: much do you see Kelly or one of these other 1958 01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,439 Speaker 1: backs take up a little bit of a role. But 1959 01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:35,200 Speaker 1: all the holdouts and those situations like Saquon signed his deal, 1960 01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:38,040 Speaker 1: we're not worrying about him anymore. So you draft accordingly. 1961 01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,200 Speaker 1: But with draft season on us, like, there's a bit 1962 01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:44,200 Speaker 1: of a risk here in the early rounds with the 1963 01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:47,320 Speaker 1: running back position just waiting for it to get settled. 1964 01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:49,760 Speaker 1: Rationality would say, these guys eventually come in and get 1965 01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:53,680 Speaker 1: their paychecks, but not everything works to rationality. 1966 01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,240 Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook win higher in my draft than I ever 1967 01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:57,320 Speaker 2: thought that he would, so. 1968 01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:58,559 Speaker 1: He doesn't even going high yet. 1969 01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so there's there are a lot of 1970 01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:05,439 Speaker 2: a lot of question marks the Josh Jacobs, you know, 1971 01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:09,800 Speaker 2: Damian Williams sonning that they had in uh in Las Vegas. 1972 01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:14,360 Speaker 2: I think that puts also a little pressure on Josh 1973 01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:18,040 Speaker 2: Jacobs to be like, Okay, we're gonna just proceed as 1974 01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,800 Speaker 2: it's going to be life without Josh Jacobs. 1975 01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:23,040 Speaker 1: And so if you get really done more, if they'd said, hey, 1976 01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,120 Speaker 1: here's four million dollars to Dalvin Cook. 1977 01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:29,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would have done quite a bit for sure, 1978 01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:31,679 Speaker 2: but it does at least try to say like, hey, 1979 01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,160 Speaker 2: all right, are you gonna come in here or or not? 1980 01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:37,120 Speaker 2: What's the deal? I think at the in the end 1981 01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:42,120 Speaker 2: he's gonna show up, but this could end up pushing 1982 01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:46,320 Speaker 2: that forward. I right now, if I have Jonathan Taylor, 1983 01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:53,080 Speaker 2: I'm I'm worried. I am I am not not cautiously optimistic. 1984 01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:57,040 Speaker 2: I am in the worried stage because nothing has gone well, 1985 01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:00,840 Speaker 2: nothing has gone right in terms of that situation. There 1986 01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:04,840 Speaker 2: hasn't been a breakthrough scenario. So if you've got what 1987 01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:08,200 Speaker 2: Dean Jackson, you know, there's a lot of handcuffing in 1988 01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:12,960 Speaker 2: that scenario. Yeah, I think that's It's that would worry 1989 01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,519 Speaker 2: me as well. If I'm a Jacobs or tailor holder, 1990 01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:16,400 Speaker 2: I'm concerned. 1991 01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,439 Speaker 1: Right then, there's one other top ten back. I wanted 1992 01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:20,160 Speaker 1: to get to it as we get through this, and 1993 01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,479 Speaker 1: you've got Tony Pollard. We talked about the Cowboys a 1994 01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:27,839 Speaker 1: little bit. The expectations right still, maybe Kansas City supplanted 1995 01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:30,839 Speaker 1: them as fully America's team, as people love Patrick Mahomes 1996 01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:34,800 Speaker 1: and doing Kermit the Frog impressions, but the idea that 1997 01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:39,679 Speaker 1: Dallas is always a marquee Marquee brand, Dak Prescott still 1998 01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:42,439 Speaker 1: looking for his deal. But you've got Ceedee Lamb, You've 1999 01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:45,160 Speaker 1: got these names, and you've got Tony Pollard where there's 2000 01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:47,080 Speaker 1: always been a debate of whether he should be a 2001 01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:52,240 Speaker 1: bell cow anyway, But now are you going Malik Davis? 2002 01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Duce Vaughan gets a lot of run, but 2003 01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:58,000 Speaker 1: that's because of his height. So's he's overachieving, Like he 2004 01:45:58,080 --> 01:45:59,800 Speaker 1: may be doing great things, but it's always going to 2005 01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:03,040 Speaker 1: be because of his stature. It's probably gonna get pushed 2006 01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:07,000 Speaker 1: up a bit. But like normally we look at handcuffs 2007 01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,920 Speaker 1: and you try to look at offenses that are gonna 2008 01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:11,799 Speaker 1: be potent and say, all right, I want some shares 2009 01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:14,760 Speaker 1: later in a draft. Here, I don't know that there's 2010 01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:17,680 Speaker 1: an obvious handcuff to go to, and they remain a 2011 01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:21,120 Speaker 1: mystery team. Does Ezekiel Elliott eventually sign a deal and 2012 01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:21,599 Speaker 1: come home. 2013 01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:23,920 Speaker 2: I think so, Like I really think that that is 2014 01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:29,160 Speaker 2: a possibility. Heck, Ronald Jones got dinged up, so he's 2015 01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:32,680 Speaker 2: not available in Dallas, and it would just be seamless 2016 01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:37,400 Speaker 2: if Zeke did return. Despite the change in play calling, 2017 01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:40,200 Speaker 2: I don't think that Pollard is affected you're right, Like, 2018 01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:42,479 Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a lot of Deuce Vaughan hype, 2019 01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:45,800 Speaker 2: but I don't think that Pollard is affected by it 2020 01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:49,240 Speaker 2: in terms of snaps. But your point of the handcuff 2021 01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:54,040 Speaker 2: is unique because if Pollard would go down Vaughan not 2022 01:46:54,200 --> 01:47:00,120 Speaker 2: to the greatness that Tony Pollard has, but would be 2023 01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:04,080 Speaker 2: a similar like if Zeke signs, it's I think it's 2024 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:06,240 Speaker 2: gonna be Pollared and Zeke, and you're gonna sprinkle in 2025 01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:09,080 Speaker 2: a little du Swan here and there. But if Pollard 2026 01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:12,040 Speaker 2: is out, then Vaughn would be the one who would 2027 01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:15,800 Speaker 2: pick up that workload, whereas opposed, if Ezekiel Elliott doesn't sign, 2028 01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:18,599 Speaker 2: it's not like Dukewan's getting more snaps because of that, 2029 01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:21,360 Speaker 2: Like he would take up the Pollard roll, and Pollard's 2030 01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:25,879 Speaker 2: not gonna take what Zeke would have had anyway. So yeah, interesting. 2031 01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:27,840 Speaker 2: You know, if if you have Tony Pollard, maybe maybe 2032 01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,280 Speaker 2: you do want a handcuff with with du Swan. But yeah, 2033 01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:33,519 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's gonna get those Ezekiel Elliott carriers 2034 01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:34,879 Speaker 2: except Ezekiel Elliott. 2035 01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:35,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2036 01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,640 Speaker 1: The running back position, just watching it in drafts has 2037 01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:39,400 Speaker 1: been so interesting because. 2038 01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:40,439 Speaker 2: The you know. 2039 01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:42,519 Speaker 1: We we debated it a few weeks ago. All Right, 2040 01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,160 Speaker 1: I had the number one pick in a draft. What 2041 01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:45,880 Speaker 1: was I gonna do? Do I go to the wide 2042 01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:49,400 Speaker 1: receiver route? Do I take McCaffrey. I decided to hold 2043 01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:53,920 Speaker 1: my nose and click McCaffrey. Four minutes later, I was 2044 01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:57,280 Speaker 1: upset about my decision, said, what am I doing? But 2045 01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:00,680 Speaker 1: at the running back position, I've seen all per mutations 2046 01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,680 Speaker 1: of that top tier. Some folks just looking at Nick 2047 01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:05,320 Speaker 1: Chubb and just saying, I know what I'm getting. 2048 01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:06,320 Speaker 2: Yep. 2049 01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:08,400 Speaker 1: If he's on the field, he's touching the ball twenty 2050 01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:12,240 Speaker 1: to twenty five times. I'll assume Deshaun Watson makes that 2051 01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:17,439 Speaker 1: offense at least serviceable, if not better, and then Nick 2052 01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:21,360 Speaker 1: Chubb feasts thereof Okay, I can listen to that. B 2053 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:24,599 Speaker 1: John Robinson, we talked about him a lot. I've seen 2054 01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:27,439 Speaker 1: him go number one in a number of drafts, just 2055 01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:31,800 Speaker 1: jumping past Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Cooper Cup all these 2056 01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:34,280 Speaker 1: guys and just straight to the head of the line. 2057 01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:38,479 Speaker 1: I've seen Austin Eckler, he's hungry, he's well, yeah, but 2058 01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,559 Speaker 1: there's also where's the tipping point? But you're expecting that 2059 01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:46,240 Speaker 1: offense to be explosive, and once again he got a 2060 01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:48,160 Speaker 1: guy catching the ball out of the backfield to the 2061 01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:51,559 Speaker 1: tune of one hundred and seven receptions an hour ago. 2062 01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:56,720 Speaker 1: That even with Johnston coming in Alan Williams, I mean, 2063 01:48:56,760 --> 01:49:00,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of mouths. Defeed, I'm not banking on 2064 01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:04,479 Speaker 1: seventeen games of health from the three receivers, particularly the 2065 01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:05,880 Speaker 1: first two. Right the veterans. 2066 01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:09,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I have Mike Williams that I am already prepared for, right, but. 2067 01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,040 Speaker 1: For Allen and Williams, you draft them with the expectation 2068 01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:15,880 Speaker 1: of I will have them for maybe twelve games if 2069 01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm lucky, fourteen, and that's where we're at in that process. 2070 01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:22,400 Speaker 1: But Eckler a guy that you argue based on that, 2071 01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, workload that he has on a week to 2072 01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:27,840 Speaker 1: week basis that he could argue him up number one. 2073 01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:30,519 Speaker 1: So it's a bit more jumbled, I think than it 2074 01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:32,280 Speaker 1: has been in a while. That top tier. 2075 01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:34,559 Speaker 2: I think we touched on this last week. But there 2076 01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:36,960 Speaker 2: are a couple of couple of spots that I think 2077 01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:41,479 Speaker 2: are interesting. Two in the same division. Number one I 2078 01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:45,679 Speaker 2: really like because there is there's the top tier gap 2079 01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:47,360 Speaker 2: Mike and then there's the guys that we talk about 2080 01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:50,479 Speaker 2: with the question marks of Taylor, of Jacobs, and then 2081 01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:53,760 Speaker 2: right under that, you've got Aaron Jones in green Bay, 2082 01:49:54,439 --> 01:49:59,160 Speaker 2: Green Bay. Right now, Luke Musgrave is getting rave reviews 2083 01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:01,479 Speaker 2: as a tight end. But who's going to be Jordan 2084 01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:05,600 Speaker 2: Love's safety blanket likely will be Aaron Jones, And I 2085 01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:10,120 Speaker 2: don't expect aj Dillon's workload to decrease. I like that 2086 01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:12,800 Speaker 2: two headed monster in Green Bay when you're talking about 2087 01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:15,720 Speaker 2: value in Jones higher than Dylan. But I think that 2088 01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:19,240 Speaker 2: there's I think that there's value into those guys, and 2089 01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:21,479 Speaker 2: I think that the numbers will be there, and honestly, 2090 01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:24,200 Speaker 2: I think that the numbers could be better. I think 2091 01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:26,120 Speaker 2: they're going to be relied on more than they were 2092 01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:31,439 Speaker 2: with Rogers. The other point is in Detroit, there's a 2093 01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:34,360 Speaker 2: lot of love for Jamiir Gibbs, ye first round pick. 2094 01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:36,760 Speaker 2: But the David Montgomery value, I know, it's something you 2095 01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:40,000 Speaker 2: said on the program a week or two ago. I mean, 2096 01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:44,240 Speaker 2: considering how it worked last year with Swift and Williams, 2097 01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:46,840 Speaker 2: you'd have to think that, all right, Montgomery's going to 2098 01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:49,840 Speaker 2: be able to maybe get a a little bit more 2099 01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:54,160 Speaker 2: than people expect he's a top thirty right now, gives 2100 01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:55,040 Speaker 2: in the top fifteen. 2101 01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:59,120 Speaker 1: So Montgomery right now on average going as the back 2102 01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:03,439 Speaker 1: end RB to early RB three. AJ Dillon's being drafted 2103 01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:08,040 Speaker 1: as a back end three. Yeah, so potential for tremendous 2104 01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:09,840 Speaker 1: value there, because you've got a lot of other question 2105 01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:12,559 Speaker 1: marks along the way. I mean, you got guys drafting 2106 01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,719 Speaker 1: Bryse Hall as a back end one, high end two. 2107 01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,400 Speaker 1: Is he even gonna be ready? And are they going 2108 01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:20,880 Speaker 1: to give him a huge workload out of the gate? Right? 2109 01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:25,920 Speaker 1: And some of it is best ball scenario versus once 2110 01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:29,160 Speaker 1: we start parsing it out week to week, but certainly 2111 01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:34,920 Speaker 1: becomes a very curious proposition running back. Yeah, the zero 2112 01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:38,479 Speaker 1: running back to me is kind of dead. I'm not 2113 01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:43,160 Speaker 1: waiting on guys, but I recognize those that just say, 2114 01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:45,799 Speaker 1: give me three or four receivers in my PPR leagues 2115 01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:48,240 Speaker 1: and I'll come in to cobble together a running back 2116 01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:48,880 Speaker 1: stable later. 2117 01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:51,680 Speaker 2: And Nick Sirianni threw quite the wrench and last night 2118 01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:55,280 Speaker 2: for the Eagles in their backfield, Kenneth Gainwelt didn't play well, 2119 01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:58,120 Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift and Rashade Penny did So now you're wondering 2120 01:51:58,200 --> 01:51:59,600 Speaker 2: what's the pecking order in Philadelphia? 2121 01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, gain, well, fantastic run. Maybe they'll trade him to Indianapolis. 2122 01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, he's standfire. I'm by carbon here, Fox 2123 01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:10,639 Speaker 1: Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Hey, I just want guys 2124 01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:13,000 Speaker 1: to get their touches and if it's too crowded there, 2125 01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,680 Speaker 1: go somewhere and be free, my man. Actually, no, with 2126 01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:18,800 Speaker 1: the number of guys that get hurt, you need to 2127 01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:22,680 Speaker 1: have three or four capable backs on your roster, no question. Hey, 2128 01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:25,479 Speaker 1: let's turn it over now to Isaac lowen Kron get 2129 01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:28,519 Speaker 1: an update on this kickball game and so much more. 2130 01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:30,120 Speaker 1: In our Sporting. 2131 01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:35,840 Speaker 5: Universe memories of elementary school, we played kickball with an 2132 01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:41,840 Speaker 5: all bright orange ball. As I recall, that's the burning Sun. 2133 01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:45,400 Speaker 5: I like it exactly like the old MISL, which was 2134 01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:47,639 Speaker 5: big back in the day the Major Indoor Soccer League. 2135 01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:50,920 Speaker 5: We will start with another ball sport, and that would 2136 01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:54,360 Speaker 5: be the NFL preseason. On Saturday night, the Los Angeles 2137 01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:57,559 Speaker 5: Chargers defeating the Los Angeles Rams thirty four to seventeen. 2138 01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:00,360 Speaker 5: The Chargers ran for two hundred and fourteen yards on 2139 01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:03,799 Speaker 5: the Rams side, their rookie quarterback and according to Twitter, 2140 01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:07,800 Speaker 5: your next Supreme Court Justice Stetson Bennett completed seventeen of 2141 01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:10,639 Speaker 5: twenty nine for one to sixty one at a touchdown, 2142 01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:13,800 Speaker 5: the Baltimore Ravens holding off the Philadelphia Eagles twenty to 2143 01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:18,160 Speaker 5: nineteen for their NFL record twenty fourth consecutive preseason victory. 2144 01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:20,879 Speaker 5: Justin Tucker a sixty yard field. 2145 01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:22,200 Speaker 2: Goal for the Ravens. I would say he's ready for 2146 01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:25,479 Speaker 2: the regular season now, Mike and Dan. 2147 01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:28,599 Speaker 5: You know when you're watching TV and you press the 2148 01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:32,240 Speaker 5: channel guide and it has this description of you know 2149 01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:32,920 Speaker 5: what you're watching? 2150 01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:36,639 Speaker 2: Yeah? So, anyway, last night for. 2151 01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:43,240 Speaker 5: The Ravens Eagles telecast on NFL Network in certain parts 2152 01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:47,240 Speaker 5: of the country on certain cable systems. If you click 2153 01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:50,759 Speaker 5: the channel guide, the description would read the following NFL 2154 01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:54,360 Speaker 5: football Philadelphia Eagles at Baltimore Ravens from M and T. 2155 01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:55,920 Speaker 2: Banks Stadium in Baltimore. 2156 01:53:56,160 --> 01:54:03,000 Speaker 5: Closed captioning violence, explicit language, adult situations and nudity. 2157 01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:07,519 Speaker 1: Wait what you heard me? Wow? 2158 01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:11,799 Speaker 5: Adult situations and nudity. If you click the channel guide 2159 01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:16,040 Speaker 5: for the Eagles Baltimore rad escalated quick tell it did. 2160 01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:22,240 Speaker 5: Shout out to Stuart Goldman of Overland Park, Kansas for notice. 2161 01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,839 Speaker 2: Random Twitter handle being credited. No, it's good, it's Isaac Staple. 2162 01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:26,719 Speaker 1: He digs deep. 2163 01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:28,840 Speaker 5: Apparently there was sort of alternative. 2164 01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:32,000 Speaker 2: What I thought he was gonna say was like Rod 2165 01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:37,280 Speaker 2: Jaworski and the egos, what we've seen before. Yes, somebody 2166 01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:41,240 Speaker 2: getting a team. Baltimore's Ted March of brotas crew looks 2167 01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:42,440 Speaker 2: to get a preseason win. 2168 01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:47,840 Speaker 5: Earl Morrile expected a quarterback the second half. But anyway, 2169 01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:50,160 Speaker 5: no word yet if there was actually some sort of 2170 01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:53,360 Speaker 5: alternate telecast of that game anyway. In Major League Baseball, 2171 01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:56,200 Speaker 5: on Saturday night, the Baltimore Orioles what at Seattle in 2172 01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:59,120 Speaker 5: ten innings, wanted nothing, breaking the Mariats eight game woning streak. 2173 01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:01,440 Speaker 5: Dodgers now in seven game winning streak. They beat the 2174 01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:04,560 Speaker 5: Rockies four to one. The Arizona Diamondbacks over the San 2175 01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:08,440 Speaker 5: Diego Padres three nothing. Diamondbacks break their nine game losing streak. 2176 01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:11,520 Speaker 5: Padres have now lost five of six. Also Saturday night, 2177 01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:15,800 Speaker 5: Dwayne Wade, Dirk Tabitsky, Tony Parker, Pau Gasol, Becky Hammond, 2178 01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:21,960 Speaker 5: and Greg Popovich among those inducted into the Basketball Hall 2179 01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:23,880 Speaker 5: of Fame in Springfield. 2180 01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:25,560 Speaker 2: I do what you're talking about. 2181 01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:28,160 Speaker 5: Apparently he did during his twenty six minute speech back 2182 01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:29,440 Speaker 5: to you guys, thanks so much. 2183 01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:32,520 Speaker 1: Ilo at Isaac Lowencrod where you fy him. Angel City 2184 01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:38,040 Speaker 1: FC Chargers are back. He's a man burning the midnight oil. 2185 01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:40,760 Speaker 1: He's Dan Byer. I'm Mike Krmon here Fox Sports Sunday 2186 01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:45,200 Speaker 1: and coming out next college football. The musical Chairs one 2187 01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:48,520 Speaker 1: conference tells two teams to beat it and rip them 2188 01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:51,120 Speaker 1: off of the playing table. We'll talk about that next 2189 01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:51,840 Speaker 1: here on Fox. 2190 01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:52,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back in. 2191 01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:56,000 Speaker 1: It's Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio, Mike Carmen dan 2192 01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:59,000 Speaker 1: Byer with you live from the tire Ac dot Com studios. 2193 01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:02,000 Speaker 1: I'll say this, we did get a visual, you know, 2194 01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:05,360 Speaker 1: we'd paying attention to. We've got some golf on, some 2195 01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:10,360 Speaker 1: NFL preseason action rewatch of the Cowboys and Jaguars game, 2196 01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:12,840 Speaker 1: and then we got this kickball competition. There was just 2197 01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:15,760 Speaker 1: someone in the stands wearing a Washington Bullets jersey. I've 2198 01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:17,480 Speaker 1: not seen one of those in a while, so that's 2199 01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:20,520 Speaker 1: kind of cool. I love the throwbacks. 2200 01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:26,040 Speaker 2: I know, I know, and I I just you know, 2201 01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:31,960 Speaker 2: of the name changes. I just I just I don't know. 2202 01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:37,760 Speaker 2: I felt bullets was I didn't think of actual bullets 2203 01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:38,320 Speaker 2: see neither. 2204 01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:43,400 Speaker 1: So, yeah, Chris brings up bullet train, but yeah, I 2205 01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:45,879 Speaker 1: don't know. I just always thought about it as speed 2206 01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:50,240 Speaker 1: and whatever. I don't know. Yes, all right, Chris, what 2207 01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:50,720 Speaker 1: do you got? 2208 01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:51,240 Speaker 4: So? 2209 01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,680 Speaker 8: I wanted your guys opinion on this speaking of throwbacks, 2210 01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:57,440 Speaker 8: because I did see I think it was like last month, 2211 01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:02,280 Speaker 8: the Tennessee Titans are going to unveil Houston Oilers throwbacks, 2212 01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:06,600 Speaker 8: and I just I have conflicts in my mind. I 2213 01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:10,760 Speaker 8: know they own the history to the Oilers, but it's 2214 01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,600 Speaker 8: not their city and the people who have the memories 2215 01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:17,400 Speaker 8: the Oilers are in Houston, and this is always something 2216 01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:19,200 Speaker 8: that struck me as very weird. I was curious what 2217 01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:20,640 Speaker 8: you guys thought of those on that. 2218 01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:24,480 Speaker 2: I agree one thousand percent. Now, there some may point 2219 01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:27,200 Speaker 2: out that when the Oilers did move, that did wear 2220 01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:30,440 Speaker 2: those same uniforms in Memphis and in Nashville before the 2221 01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:35,720 Speaker 2: actual team name did change. But to say that the 2222 01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:38,760 Speaker 2: the you know, eight games they played in Memphis and 2223 01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:40,920 Speaker 2: then the eight games they played at Vanderbilt Stadium, which 2224 01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:42,840 Speaker 2: I think I've told you, Mike. I was in attendance 2225 01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:46,760 Speaker 2: for an Oilers game at Vanderbilt Stadium in the late 2226 01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:51,080 Speaker 2: nineties that's sweet. Yes it was. It was crazy you 2227 01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:55,600 Speaker 2: still had the ticket stub. I actually what I ticket 2228 01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:57,560 Speaker 2: was up got dumped at some point. I'm still a 2229 01:57:57,600 --> 01:58:00,240 Speaker 2: little bit bitter about it. And sometimes those Ticketmaster the 2230 01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:03,080 Speaker 2: ink fades on it, and so that may it makes 2231 01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:05,760 Speaker 2: it even cool. That may have been the one. But 2232 01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:09,880 Speaker 2: to Chris's point, I agree with that that was actually 2233 01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:13,240 Speaker 2: one of the great things about when the Hornets moved. 2234 01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:18,360 Speaker 2: When the Hornets moved to New Orleans and then Charlotte 2235 01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:20,960 Speaker 2: got the team, they became the Bobcats, and then Jordan 2236 01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:22,320 Speaker 2: took over and was like, all right, we want the 2237 01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:25,160 Speaker 2: Hornets name back in the history, and they got it back. 2238 01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:27,960 Speaker 2: So then the New Orleans became the Pelicans and they 2239 01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:31,800 Speaker 2: started like they started fresh. Like I wish the same 2240 01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:36,400 Speaker 2: could have been done for Nashville and that franchise, and 2241 01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:38,480 Speaker 2: then the Texans would have been able to have the 2242 01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:39,360 Speaker 2: Oiler's history. 2243 01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:42,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, like the Browns got their old history back. I 2244 01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:44,160 Speaker 8: should know this from immaculate Grid. It's not like the 2245 01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:47,080 Speaker 8: Raven's history. They can't just do a Brown's throwback. No, 2246 01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:48,760 Speaker 8: and like but and they're like, yeah, they played some 2247 01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:50,360 Speaker 8: games going up there, but love you Blue. 2248 01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:53,440 Speaker 2: That's Houston. Yes, and when it was when when the 2249 01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:57,720 Speaker 2: Ravens came, they were put in as a new franchise, 2250 01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:00,280 Speaker 2: even though they moved, but they were technically, as you said, 2251 01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:03,919 Speaker 2: started from day one. That was their first days of franchise. 2252 01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:06,160 Speaker 2: It's not like they have the old Colts stuff. You know. 2253 01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:08,480 Speaker 1: You know what, that was far more and far better 2254 01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:13,480 Speaker 1: orchestrated than the actual move undercover night Mayflower trucks maybe 2255 01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:16,240 Speaker 1: Mayflower trucks in the middle of the night, versus hey, 2256 01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:18,840 Speaker 1: we've already taken care of all of our trademarks. Something 2257 01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:21,480 Speaker 1: that the commanders could have used or whatever we're gonna 2258 01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:24,000 Speaker 1: call them in the future that maybe they should have 2259 01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:26,800 Speaker 1: gone down the process of trying to register all these trademarks. 2260 01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:28,720 Speaker 2: I think the Timberwolves should be able to wear the 2261 01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:33,760 Speaker 2: Minneapolis Lakers stuff. I don't think the Los Angeles Lakers. 2262 01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:37,120 Speaker 1: The North Stars for hockey, so sure, yeah, I mean, 2263 01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:39,840 Speaker 1: like all of those legacy players. Look, if we're going 2264 01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:42,720 Speaker 1: to do that and celebrate those, let's actually do it 2265 01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,440 Speaker 1: in the cities where it makes sense. He's dan Byer. 2266 01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:49,120 Speaker 1: I'll buy Carmen. There's a little trip down the nostalgia 2267 01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:52,879 Speaker 1: and bridging through all sparked by someone wearing a Washington 2268 01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:56,680 Speaker 1: Bullets jersey. And now I'm thinking of all the legends 2269 01:59:56,680 --> 02:00:03,680 Speaker 1: that play there. I'm gonna get Google, Outeff Malone. Nicely done. Yeah, 2270 02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:06,560 Speaker 1: you got Jeff Malone, and I can't stop that. Dan 2271 02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:09,560 Speaker 1: and Mike here, Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Coming 2272 02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:11,879 Speaker 1: up next, we turn our attention back to college football 2273 02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:14,240 Speaker 1: and the conference that told a couple of teams to 2274 02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:17,440 Speaker 1: beat it. We'll tell you why why it all makes sense. 2275 02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Next on Fox Green Eggs. Welcome in. It is the 2276 02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:23,320 Speaker 1: final hour of the program this morning, live from the 2277 02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:26,480 Speaker 1: ti rack dot Com studios. Tyrack dot com. We'll help 2278 02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:29,280 Speaker 1: you get there an unmatched selection, fast, free shipping, free 2279 02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:32,720 Speaker 1: road hazard protection, over ten thousand recommended installers tire rack 2280 02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:36,080 Speaker 1: dot com. The way tire buying should be. Mike Carman, 2281 02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:38,920 Speaker 1: Dan Byer with you here at Dan Byer on Fox 2282 02:00:38,920 --> 02:00:40,720 Speaker 1: where you find him on Twitter. You hear him during 2283 02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:43,160 Speaker 1: the week part of The Doug Gottlieb Show and Cavino 2284 02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:46,720 Speaker 1: and Rich that's twelve to four Pacific time. I find 2285 02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:50,840 Speaker 1: me seven to eleven Pacific time alongside Jason Smith at 2286 02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Swollen Dome on Twitter. So much action. We're watching all 2287 02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:57,240 Speaker 1: of these preseason games. We've got a couple more later 2288 02:00:57,320 --> 02:01:01,160 Speaker 1: on today, Chief Saints getting a little bit of as 2289 02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:04,760 Speaker 1: we get into this next hour, Dan as well as 2290 02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:05,480 Speaker 1: all the other. 2291 02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:08,879 Speaker 2: Chaos, Niners Raiders cause. 2292 02:01:08,680 --> 02:01:11,760 Speaker 1: I sporting event Niners Raiders had a very spirited joint 2293 02:01:11,840 --> 02:01:14,680 Speaker 1: practice the other day. And it's so it's something that 2294 02:01:14,720 --> 02:01:16,600 Speaker 1: you and I were talking about a little bit. We 2295 02:01:16,640 --> 02:01:19,240 Speaker 1: referenced it earlier. We'll get to college football in a minute, 2296 02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:22,600 Speaker 1: but just the idea of preseason games and the more 2297 02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:28,720 Speaker 1: joint practices, and really, when you're trying to accomplish something, right, 2298 02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:31,200 Speaker 1: all right, we want to work on these drills, we 2299 02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:35,040 Speaker 1: want to work on these situations. How much more of 2300 02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:39,520 Speaker 1: that is a help than preseason games? Now? For preseason 2301 02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:42,320 Speaker 1: this year, I think we've just got a unique circumstance. 2302 02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:46,520 Speaker 1: Half the league change their offensive coordinators. Yeah, right, full 2303 02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:50,960 Speaker 1: sixteen teams, So maybe you need some live action in 2304 02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:54,720 Speaker 1: game situation, But it seems like also you can simulate 2305 02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:56,800 Speaker 1: that well enough in practices. 2306 02:01:56,920 --> 02:01:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could get a little taste of stuff in 2307 02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:01,720 Speaker 2: a in a week one game and then in a 2308 02:02:01,720 --> 02:02:05,680 Speaker 2: week two. But the shortening of the preseason didn't take 2309 02:02:05,720 --> 02:02:07,520 Speaker 2: away from the fact that teams just aren't going to 2310 02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:10,040 Speaker 2: play their starters in Week three for sure, like they're 2311 02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:13,440 Speaker 2: they're holding out, even though it is a good full 2312 02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:16,560 Speaker 2: week and a half, two weeks before the actual season 2313 02:02:16,640 --> 02:02:20,760 Speaker 2: starts for these for these teams, after that Week three 2314 02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:24,200 Speaker 2: preseason game, Yeah, I just wonder, Mike, like, even watching 2315 02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:27,920 Speaker 2: like this full slate of games, looking back on it, 2316 02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:30,520 Speaker 2: I can't believe that we sat through four preseason games. 2317 02:02:30,520 --> 02:02:34,960 Speaker 2: Like HiT's crazy. I don't I don't remember the I 2318 02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:37,800 Speaker 2: don't remember those days, but I remember the the the 2319 02:02:37,960 --> 02:02:40,240 Speaker 2: four days because it was four games, because it was 2320 02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:44,960 Speaker 2: pretty recent and it was it it was a long time. 2321 02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:47,280 Speaker 2: You were almost kind of ramping up to that third 2322 02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:50,520 Speaker 2: game when starters would would play about the first half. 2323 02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:52,520 Speaker 2: But even of just this week, I got to the 2324 02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:54,520 Speaker 2: point of, you know what, I think two games would 2325 02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:57,480 Speaker 2: be great. And we know the reason why they play 2326 02:02:57,560 --> 02:03:00,920 Speaker 2: three preseason games is because they want twenty games on 2327 02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:03,520 Speaker 2: the schedule where they can open those doors to the stadiums. 2328 02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:07,480 Speaker 2: And if it's gonna be seventeen and three, then that's 2329 02:03:07,480 --> 02:03:12,160 Speaker 2: what it's gonna be. But now, Mike, for to add 2330 02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:14,680 Speaker 2: an extra game, which I know would be a lot. 2331 02:03:14,720 --> 02:03:17,960 Speaker 2: I think the addition of the seventeenth game has made 2332 02:03:18,040 --> 02:03:20,000 Speaker 2: this season even longer. So now I have the super 2333 02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:23,720 Speaker 2: Bowl go to mid February, does just make it a 2334 02:03:23,960 --> 02:03:28,200 Speaker 2: longer season. And if you added another preseason game, they're 2335 02:03:28,200 --> 02:03:30,640 Speaker 2: not gonna do it. They're not gonna play on Labor Day. 2336 02:03:30,680 --> 02:03:33,160 Speaker 2: They've moved away from doing that, So then you'd put 2337 02:03:33,160 --> 02:03:37,000 Speaker 2: it on President's Day weekend usually of where that falls 2338 02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:40,520 Speaker 2: on the calendar, and it would just be a long 2339 02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:42,480 Speaker 2: NFL season. But I almost think that we're there. I 2340 02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:45,560 Speaker 2: almost think that we're at to the eighteen game schedule 2341 02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:49,640 Speaker 2: because I've about had enough of preseason and we're not 2342 02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:51,840 Speaker 2: even through the Week one yet. And not usually a 2343 02:03:51,880 --> 02:03:55,200 Speaker 2: guy doesn't mind the preseason, but for some reason this 2344 02:03:55,240 --> 02:03:57,760 Speaker 2: time around, I'm like, all right, these guys could probably 2345 02:03:57,840 --> 02:04:00,360 Speaker 2: use another game for about who we're gonna see, and 2346 02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:03,000 Speaker 2: we should be pretty good. I know that maybe the Panthers, Colts, 2347 02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:05,200 Speaker 2: and Texans would like a little bit more time, you know, 2348 02:04:05,240 --> 02:04:08,080 Speaker 2: with their guys, But for the rest of the of 2349 02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:10,960 Speaker 2: the league and the teams, I think those joint practices 2350 02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:13,560 Speaker 2: basically do what they want to and accomplish. 2351 02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think when we look at it, I mean 2352 02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:18,560 Speaker 1: the eighteenth game. As we know from the CBA, that 2353 02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:21,200 Speaker 1: could be triggered at any point. The owners have the 2354 02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:23,520 Speaker 1: right to do that, and there's just so much money 2355 02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:26,920 Speaker 1: at stage and there always has been, right, So I 2356 02:04:27,000 --> 02:04:29,840 Speaker 1: want to just you know, say that categorically it's always 2357 02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:31,960 Speaker 1: been a lot of money. Now it's just a little 2358 02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:35,000 Speaker 1: bit more, right, But we talk about it from the 2359 02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:38,680 Speaker 1: college angle of all these you know, giant contracts, who 2360 02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:43,240 Speaker 1: agrees who fights and which commissioner slash presidents get things 2361 02:04:43,280 --> 02:04:45,920 Speaker 1: screwed up. I mean from the NFL, it's now just 2362 02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:49,840 Speaker 1: a question. I think it's inevitability that the eighteenth game 2363 02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:53,440 Speaker 1: comes and then you make some sort of considerations in 2364 02:04:54,120 --> 02:04:58,360 Speaker 1: probably the next CBA is when this really would likely happen, 2365 02:04:58,680 --> 02:05:01,040 Speaker 1: where you start talking about roster and maybe you add 2366 02:05:01,040 --> 02:05:05,280 Speaker 1: a couple of jobs per team because of attrition and 2367 02:05:05,320 --> 02:05:09,200 Speaker 1: knowing that the eighteenth game probably creates a lot more 2368 02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:14,640 Speaker 1: turnover on rosters. But it's certainly for the preseason. It 2369 02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:18,280 Speaker 1: was interesting to watch Richardson play, fun to watch you 2370 02:05:18,320 --> 02:05:20,720 Speaker 1: know Stroud, Bryce Young and get their reps. Okay, not 2371 02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:23,919 Speaker 1: so much fun for CJ. Stroud because right now everybody's 2372 02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:26,200 Speaker 1: now thrown him to the bottom of the trash heap 2373 02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:28,560 Speaker 1: off of a very limited. 2374 02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:31,280 Speaker 2: Yeah twenty one or whatever it is, and he throws 2375 02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:34,680 Speaker 2: in an interception and yeah, it wasn't a good interception. 2376 02:05:34,840 --> 02:05:37,200 Speaker 1: It was a terrible throw. But I mean everybody's made 2377 02:05:37,240 --> 02:05:39,520 Speaker 1: that throw like you got you gotta have that. Welcome 2378 02:05:39,560 --> 02:05:41,640 Speaker 1: to the NFL moment. There it is in week one 2379 02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:43,960 Speaker 1: of the preseason. Yes, you're right, get it out of 2380 02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:46,080 Speaker 1: your system. I forget who I heard say it. You 2381 02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:49,480 Speaker 1: know X NFL player somewhere somehow, I don't know. It 2382 02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:52,920 Speaker 1: all blends together as you're driving around to and from 2383 02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:55,880 Speaker 1: soccer tournaments and stuff after sitting in the sun because 2384 02:05:55,880 --> 02:06:00,920 Speaker 1: you see, I'm thermometer head part two of the summer today. Yeah, 2385 02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:04,880 Speaker 1: I gotta get some more effective sunscreen when I'm out there. 2386 02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:07,960 Speaker 1: But the idea just being that you wouldn't you rather 2387 02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:12,160 Speaker 1: have people taking their chances throwing new wrinkles into the offense. 2388 02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:15,240 Speaker 1: And if you're a young quarterback, you're taking chances to 2389 02:06:15,320 --> 02:06:19,240 Speaker 1: see and test that speed difference from college to the 2390 02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:23,360 Speaker 1: proses testing all right, what is my receiver willing to 2391 02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:26,240 Speaker 1: do on this route? Yes, can they make a play 2392 02:06:26,320 --> 02:06:28,240 Speaker 1: for me? All the other things wouldn't you rather have 2393 02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:31,000 Speaker 1: that week one of the preseason than week one of 2394 02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:33,920 Speaker 1: the regular season and then realize, Okay, all of those 2395 02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:36,560 Speaker 1: throws are now off the table because they can't make it, 2396 02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:38,880 Speaker 1: and we can't make this part of our offense work. 2397 02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:41,160 Speaker 2: I feel this is a Sunday sermon that you're giving 2398 02:06:41,240 --> 02:06:43,160 Speaker 2: right now. All of it is true. This is the 2399 02:06:43,200 --> 02:06:46,800 Speaker 2: opportunity to make mistakes. And how many guys just come 2400 02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:50,320 Speaker 2: in and it's as simple as can be, you know, 2401 02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:52,400 Speaker 2: like it's just it does doesn't happen. 2402 02:06:52,520 --> 02:06:55,160 Speaker 1: No, it doesn't, like even rookie seasons, right, we seem 2403 02:06:55,200 --> 02:06:58,960 Speaker 1: to conveniently forget how terrible Peyton Manning was in large 2404 02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:00,440 Speaker 1: stretches of his first season. 2405 02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Pete, Yeah, And that's the thing that Peyton Manning 2406 02:07:02,960 --> 02:07:05,880 Speaker 2: threw for twenty six touchdowns that year, and you know, 2407 02:07:06,080 --> 02:07:08,560 Speaker 2: I thirty eight hundred yards something that could be off 2408 02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:11,960 Speaker 2: by a little, but there was the twenty eight interceptions. 2409 02:07:12,080 --> 02:07:15,120 Speaker 2: You know that That's what it is. It's it's it's different, 2410 02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:17,480 Speaker 2: like and that's but that's it. That's the other different thing, 2411 02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:19,520 Speaker 2: Mike if and I know Zach Wilson wasn't a rookie 2412 02:07:19,600 --> 02:07:22,440 Speaker 2: last year, but like Zach Wilson at times looked like 2413 02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:23,560 Speaker 2: he couldn't complete a pass. 2414 02:07:23,680 --> 02:07:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had the chuck knoblock yips is what 2415 02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:27,880 Speaker 1: it started to beat. 2416 02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:29,840 Speaker 2: It's just like, I don't know if we're going to 2417 02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:34,560 Speaker 2: get this thing downfield. And that's you know, it's the 2418 02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:37,200 Speaker 2: it's the opposite of Jameis Winston, who again, I know 2419 02:07:37,280 --> 02:07:39,800 Speaker 2: he wasn't a rookie in the in the thirty thirty 2420 02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:42,360 Speaker 2: year that he had, but he still was able to 2421 02:07:42,440 --> 02:07:48,400 Speaker 2: throw thirty three touchdowns at the thirty interceptions. It's there 2422 02:07:48,440 --> 02:07:50,320 Speaker 2: are guys that you know, all of a sudden that 2423 02:07:50,360 --> 02:07:53,520 Speaker 2: you're just wondering, all right, can this football even go downfield. 2424 02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:56,480 Speaker 2: That's when you start scratching your head and being like, 2425 02:07:56,520 --> 02:07:58,520 Speaker 2: all right, I don't think this this guy is going 2426 02:07:58,560 --> 02:08:01,000 Speaker 2: to well Jackson going to get it. 2427 02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Go back to Sam Darnold seeing ghosts, yeah right, And 2428 02:08:05,160 --> 02:08:07,160 Speaker 1: so all of a sudden, you're not making a throw 2429 02:08:07,200 --> 02:08:11,120 Speaker 1: because you're seeing defenders into a box like you can 2430 02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:14,920 Speaker 1: whatever trigger it in your head. So yeah, I mean 2431 02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:18,360 Speaker 1: jet sho. But the for Zach Wilson, I mean it 2432 02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:21,680 Speaker 1: was a very big deal. And now whatever Rogers is doing, 2433 02:08:21,960 --> 02:08:24,240 Speaker 1: at least you saw him on Cork that fifty seven 2434 02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:28,400 Speaker 1: yard pass that maybe some of those mental blocks are gone. 2435 02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:32,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's the growing pains of the position 2436 02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:36,280 Speaker 1: that we give guys such a short leash anymore to 2437 02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:41,120 Speaker 1: make a mistake, right the you know, over over use 2438 02:08:41,160 --> 02:08:45,680 Speaker 1: of quarterback rating and touchdown to interception ratio as barometers 2439 02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:47,080 Speaker 1: of how well someone plays. 2440 02:08:47,200 --> 02:08:50,000 Speaker 2: Yes, well, you know, you're we're also in the dnage 2441 02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:52,240 Speaker 2: where people want to be the first with everything. Sure, 2442 02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:55,440 Speaker 2: and so as soon as CJ. Stroud throws an interception 2443 02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:57,400 Speaker 2: on the first game of the first week of the 2444 02:08:57,440 --> 02:09:00,880 Speaker 2: preseason outside of the Hall of Fame game, it's easy 2445 02:09:00,920 --> 02:09:04,480 Speaker 2: to make that declaration. You know, there's there's stuff that's 2446 02:09:04,520 --> 02:09:07,120 Speaker 2: going for c J. Stroud, there's stuff that's going against him. 2447 02:09:07,160 --> 02:09:09,440 Speaker 2: You know, you look at the other rookie quarterbacks. Their 2448 02:09:09,440 --> 02:09:13,360 Speaker 2: head coaches are offensive minded guys, Shane Stikeen and Frank 2449 02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:18,280 Speaker 2: Reich in Carolina and Indianapolis, and c J. Stroud's got 2450 02:09:18,280 --> 02:09:21,400 Speaker 2: a defensive minded head coach, and you know, Demiko Ryans 2451 02:09:21,680 --> 02:09:25,000 Speaker 2: and in his first year, and Frank Reich's obviously a 2452 02:09:25,080 --> 02:09:27,880 Speaker 2: veteran head coach. Shane Steikin's got his first year job 2453 02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:30,000 Speaker 2: so maybe Bryce Young scheduled a little advantage over the 2454 02:09:30,040 --> 02:09:32,360 Speaker 2: other guys because there's a lot that we could sit 2455 02:09:32,360 --> 02:09:35,840 Speaker 2: there and pick through. It felt like CJ. Stroud's interception 2456 02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:39,800 Speaker 2: was different than Anthony Richardson's interception. And that's the part 2457 02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:43,560 Speaker 2: that I that I don't get. Mike was prime time, Yeah, 2458 02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:45,680 Speaker 2: that's everybody was watching. 2459 02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:49,600 Speaker 1: Yesterday was Saturday. Everybody's out and about moving, and it 2460 02:09:49,720 --> 02:09:53,680 Speaker 1: was just a blim on in your Twitter verse or 2461 02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:54,440 Speaker 1: wherever you found. 2462 02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:57,080 Speaker 2: And that's not meant to say that Anthony Richardson should 2463 02:09:57,080 --> 02:09:59,200 Speaker 2: have gotten criticism. It's to say that maybe c J. 2464 02:09:59,360 --> 02:10:02,560 Speaker 2: Stroud didn't have gotten as harsh of a criticism because 2465 02:10:02,600 --> 02:10:05,480 Speaker 2: by all accounts, and I did not see the rest 2466 02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:09,960 Speaker 2: of richardson snaps on Saturday, but by the accounts he 2467 02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:11,320 Speaker 2: fared pretty decently. Well. 2468 02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:14,560 Speaker 1: Yeah the stretch, Yeah he got comfortable. But sometimes you 2469 02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:17,360 Speaker 1: need to get like they always say, right everybody, what 2470 02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:20,240 Speaker 1: was in the Mike Tyson. Everybody's got a great plan 2471 02:10:20,360 --> 02:10:22,760 Speaker 1: until you get punched in the mouth. Yes, Likewise in 2472 02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:26,440 Speaker 1: the NFL, until you take that first hit, everything's happy, 2473 02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:31,120 Speaker 1: everything's good, and then you're hyper focused and ready to roll. Thereafter, 2474 02:10:31,600 --> 02:10:33,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to get to it for a minute, because 2475 02:10:33,440 --> 02:10:35,840 Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a long couple of weeks 2476 02:10:35,880 --> 02:10:41,400 Speaker 1: of it with college football and the reorganization of conferences 2477 02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:44,040 Speaker 1: at all. I like the Chip Kelly suggestion, but then 2478 02:10:44,080 --> 02:10:47,760 Speaker 1: nobody's ever going to enact that football teams are all 2479 02:10:47,800 --> 02:10:51,760 Speaker 1: independent and you're in conferences and the NCAA and whatever 2480 02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:55,520 Speaker 1: ruling body governs everything else. All right, you know, that's 2481 02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:57,640 Speaker 1: that's nice in theory, it's never gonna happen. But we 2482 02:10:57,680 --> 02:11:01,080 Speaker 1: had the report that the ACC old Stanford and Coal 2483 02:11:01,200 --> 02:11:04,880 Speaker 1: to beat it, and you had several schools, including Florida State, 2484 02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:08,280 Speaker 1: who's always already trying to exit the ACC themselves, but 2485 02:11:08,280 --> 02:11:11,960 Speaker 1: then realize they're locked in until twenty thirty six unless 2486 02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:16,720 Speaker 1: something gets blown up there. Look for the non revenue sports. 2487 02:11:17,000 --> 02:11:19,320 Speaker 1: We recognize some of those schedule logistics, and you and 2488 02:11:19,400 --> 02:11:21,480 Speaker 1: I went through it quite a bit a couple of 2489 02:11:21,480 --> 02:11:24,960 Speaker 1: weeks ago of what teams already do to make this 2490 02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:30,000 Speaker 1: stuff work, like long road trips, school and study hall 2491 02:11:30,080 --> 02:11:32,560 Speaker 1: and all that on the road. Like it's been done, 2492 02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:36,080 Speaker 1: Like there's nothing real new, really new to this. Maybe 2493 02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:40,360 Speaker 1: just you add another state to your United States passport, 2494 02:11:40,480 --> 02:11:43,520 Speaker 1: like you would have stamp if you were traveling abroad. 2495 02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:46,920 Speaker 1: But when it gets down to it, right, unless the 2496 02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:51,640 Speaker 1: dollars are are going to be augmented and you're not 2497 02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:54,920 Speaker 1: taking away from my pile, it doesn't make sense. 2498 02:11:55,360 --> 02:11:59,320 Speaker 2: Well, what doesn't make sense at all with the ACC 2499 02:11:59,440 --> 02:12:04,400 Speaker 2: as nine the geography, but the economics. And what I 2500 02:12:04,400 --> 02:12:08,760 Speaker 2: mean by the economics is the well the ACC. I 2501 02:12:08,800 --> 02:12:11,959 Speaker 2: wouldn't say beat it because eleven of the fifteen schools 2502 02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:15,960 Speaker 2: were ready to welcome Callen Stanford. The problem is it's 2503 02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:17,680 Speaker 2: the four schools that didn't. 2504 02:12:17,720 --> 02:12:20,920 Speaker 1: Well ready enough, right, because the reports were that there 2505 02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:23,560 Speaker 1: were a couple of schools that were just kind of like, Okay, 2506 02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:24,680 Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Sure? 2507 02:12:25,240 --> 02:12:28,800 Speaker 2: And the four schools that voted against it were Florida State, Clemson, 2508 02:12:28,920 --> 02:12:33,080 Speaker 2: North Carolina, and North Carolina State. And Florida State we 2509 02:12:33,160 --> 02:12:37,000 Speaker 2: know about their angst towards the ACC right now in 2510 02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:41,520 Speaker 2: the amount that they get. Clemson has similar feelings. I 2511 02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:45,280 Speaker 2: think North Carolina, of every team in the ACC, is 2512 02:12:45,320 --> 02:12:48,480 Speaker 2: the apple of the eye of the SEC and the 2513 02:12:48,480 --> 02:12:51,240 Speaker 2: Big Ten. There's going to be a I think that 2514 02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:54,000 Speaker 2: the Big Ten would be fine if the ACC got 2515 02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:56,400 Speaker 2: Florida State. I think the Big Ten would be fine 2516 02:12:56,400 --> 02:12:58,960 Speaker 2: if the ACC got Clemson. I do not think the 2517 02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:01,480 Speaker 2: Big Ten would be fine if the SEC got Notre 2518 02:13:01,560 --> 02:13:03,839 Speaker 2: Dame or excuse me, North Carolina. 2519 02:13:04,520 --> 02:13:07,120 Speaker 1: No, I get what you're saying, right, SEC can pick 2520 02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:09,360 Speaker 1: up everybody else but Carolina. 2521 02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:12,520 Speaker 2: A lot of value there, Yes, and there's a lot 2522 02:13:12,560 --> 02:13:14,760 Speaker 2: of value with that school and even the program. And 2523 02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:18,720 Speaker 2: then it's ties NC State, Virginia and Virginia Tech I 2524 02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:22,200 Speaker 2: think have value as well. But the point is, Callan 2525 02:13:22,240 --> 02:13:25,240 Speaker 2: Stanford aren't going to the ACC because those four schools 2526 02:13:25,320 --> 02:13:29,320 Speaker 2: voted against it. It's also those schools saying, my goodness, 2527 02:13:29,400 --> 02:13:32,920 Speaker 2: take care of us. You know, we're not We're not 2528 02:13:32,960 --> 02:13:36,960 Speaker 2: worried about the ACC surviving. We're worried about us surviving. 2529 02:13:37,400 --> 02:13:40,080 Speaker 2: So your goals of adding Callen Stanford are trying to 2530 02:13:40,200 --> 02:13:44,360 Speaker 2: save what is left of or what is the ACC 2531 02:13:44,640 --> 02:13:46,880 Speaker 2: to try to stave off the Big ten or SEC 2532 02:13:47,080 --> 02:13:49,560 Speaker 2: from poaching any of those schools. And I think what 2533 02:13:49,640 --> 02:13:54,200 Speaker 2: Florida State, North Carolina, Clemson are all saying is maybe 2534 02:13:54,880 --> 02:13:57,240 Speaker 2: maybe care about us, you know, figure out a way 2535 02:13:57,240 --> 02:14:00,280 Speaker 2: where we are happy within this league, and then maybe 2536 02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:02,600 Speaker 2: your league will survive because we won't be going to 2537 02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:05,320 Speaker 2: the other leagues. I it's no surprise that those were 2538 02:14:05,320 --> 02:14:10,200 Speaker 2: the four schools that we were voting against it, because 2539 02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:11,960 Speaker 2: I think they're the ones that are getting screwed the 2540 02:14:11,960 --> 02:14:16,200 Speaker 2: most in the ACC And I just get it. It 2541 02:14:16,240 --> 02:14:18,840 Speaker 2: was a nice thought. But you use the term leftovers 2542 02:14:18,840 --> 02:14:21,360 Speaker 2: as well. That's what they are. They're they're the ninth 2543 02:14:21,400 --> 02:14:23,680 Speaker 2: and tenth options right now. 2544 02:14:23,720 --> 02:14:24,600 Speaker 1: Well, but that's it, right? 2545 02:14:24,800 --> 02:14:25,600 Speaker 2: Is that valuable? 2546 02:14:25,640 --> 02:14:27,720 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of value unless you want to say, well, 2547 02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:31,480 Speaker 1: we add a couple of academic schools. But to the 2548 02:14:31,480 --> 02:14:34,960 Speaker 1: bottom line of any deal that's already in place, you 2549 02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:37,800 Speaker 1: either have to have the networks that you're working with 2550 02:14:38,040 --> 02:14:41,480 Speaker 1: rip up the deal and create a new one, or 2551 02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:44,200 Speaker 1: you have to give up some of your money. Who 2552 02:14:44,280 --> 02:14:46,200 Speaker 1: wants to give up any of their money? Right? They 2553 02:14:46,240 --> 02:14:48,480 Speaker 1: already think they got a bad deal. Right in the 2554 02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:50,760 Speaker 1: Big ten, they were able to go back to Fox 2555 02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:53,160 Speaker 1: and basically say, hey, we need a bigger check, so 2556 02:14:53,240 --> 02:14:56,600 Speaker 1: Oregon get in, Washington can come in, and they said, Okay, 2557 02:14:56,600 --> 02:15:00,320 Speaker 1: that's worth it, sir, yep. Right, they have the brand 2558 02:15:00,600 --> 02:15:06,360 Speaker 1: cachet and brand value. These others great schools, great institutions. 2559 02:15:06,840 --> 02:15:09,840 Speaker 1: They're not moving the needle economically, to where we need 2560 02:15:09,880 --> 02:15:14,240 Speaker 1: it to. So for these four schools, given their success, 2561 02:15:14,880 --> 02:15:18,040 Speaker 1: given their histories, anything else, if they're not satisfied with 2562 02:15:18,080 --> 02:15:20,320 Speaker 1: their deal, should is hell not giving away a penny 2563 02:15:20,560 --> 02:15:23,040 Speaker 1: yes to somebody else coming in if you're not a 2564 02:15:23,120 --> 02:15:26,680 Speaker 1: value add to where we can go back. Because again, 2565 02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:29,200 Speaker 1: you got to be a dope to sign a rights 2566 02:15:29,240 --> 02:15:32,680 Speaker 1: deal for fifteen years. Right, that's a whole other problem 2567 02:15:32,760 --> 02:15:36,560 Speaker 1: with your commissioner and your university presidents. It's the old 2568 02:15:36,560 --> 02:15:41,320 Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen Bulls thing. It's like, you want the longevity, 2569 02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:43,800 Speaker 1: you're doing your trade off, right, We'll give you the 2570 02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:48,120 Speaker 1: longevity and that long time commitment. However, when you want 2571 02:15:48,120 --> 02:15:49,600 Speaker 1: to come back to the table and say I need 2572 02:15:49,640 --> 02:15:51,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more, it's like, well, we gave you 2573 02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:52,400 Speaker 1: seven years. 2574 02:15:52,440 --> 02:15:55,480 Speaker 2: I mean we invested in you. Ticking clock, the ACC 2575 02:15:56,000 --> 02:15:59,000 Speaker 2: It's going to crumble. It is going to crumble. It's 2576 02:15:59,040 --> 02:15:59,360 Speaker 2: going to. 2577 02:15:59,760 --> 02:16:02,200 Speaker 1: Dam buy I'm buy carbon here. Fox Sports Sunday, Fox 2578 02:16:02,240 --> 02:16:06,000 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Coming up next, James Harden. The trade season 2579 02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:09,320 Speaker 1: in the NBA. It's gotten awful quiet, real fast. But 2580 02:16:10,320 --> 02:16:12,960 Speaker 1: the theory, and I think a right one that Dan 2581 02:16:13,080 --> 02:16:16,880 Speaker 1: Byer proffers on why this all happened the way it did. 2582 02:16:16,920 --> 02:16:19,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it next year on Fox. Glose sticks 2583 02:16:19,240 --> 02:16:21,200 Speaker 1: up on a Sunday morning. Let's get it on live 2584 02:16:21,280 --> 02:16:24,600 Speaker 1: at the tyrac dot com studios by Carma dan Byer 2585 02:16:24,680 --> 02:16:27,760 Speaker 1: with you here as we roll on a little bit on. 2586 02:16:28,360 --> 02:16:31,480 Speaker 1: We're watching a little bit of Little League Softball World 2587 02:16:31,640 --> 02:16:35,320 Speaker 1: Series now, dan Byer. So we're getting a veritable potpourrie 2588 02:16:35,800 --> 02:16:39,240 Speaker 1: of sporting action. A little uh English Premier League coming 2589 02:16:39,320 --> 02:16:43,320 Speaker 1: up later on tonight, a couple more NFL preseason games, 2590 02:16:43,360 --> 02:16:46,840 Speaker 1: we got some golf man, Major League Baseball slate. There's 2591 02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:47,959 Speaker 1: a lot going. 2592 02:16:47,720 --> 02:16:54,320 Speaker 2: On, tons going on, USA hoops going on, getting Yeah, gosh, 2593 02:16:54,320 --> 02:16:55,560 Speaker 2: can we think of anything more? 2594 02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:58,000 Speaker 1: Well, we got to get the you know, start people 2595 02:16:58,080 --> 02:17:00,959 Speaker 1: pushing down that bandwagon because you know, it's been a 2596 02:17:00,959 --> 02:17:05,120 Speaker 1: week since the women's national team was unceremoniously dumped. You 2597 02:17:05,160 --> 02:17:06,640 Speaker 1: know what I did. I lost a lot of sleep 2598 02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:09,000 Speaker 1: this week, not because they lost, but because I still 2599 02:17:09,040 --> 02:17:11,320 Speaker 1: stayed up and watched a lot of the tournament. And 2600 02:17:11,360 --> 02:17:14,760 Speaker 1: the ratings, as our guy Steve Desager loves television ratings, 2601 02:17:15,320 --> 02:17:17,160 Speaker 1: they were still up at around one to eight, good 2602 02:17:17,280 --> 02:17:19,959 Speaker 1: for a lot of these these games. So while Fox 2603 02:17:20,080 --> 02:17:25,280 Speaker 1: lost the giant you know, boost that the women's team 2604 02:17:25,280 --> 02:17:29,160 Speaker 1: would have given them the tournament overall is performing quite well. 2605 02:17:29,360 --> 02:17:31,120 Speaker 1: Of course, if they just won their group, they would 2606 02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:36,000 Speaker 1: have been a more advantageous time slot television wise, but 2607 02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:38,160 Speaker 1: they also wouldn't have played Sweden, who has now beat 2608 02:17:38,200 --> 02:17:39,560 Speaker 1: in Japan and moved on. 2609 02:17:39,680 --> 02:17:41,240 Speaker 2: So under the final four here we go. 2610 02:17:41,320 --> 02:17:44,480 Speaker 1: We keep moving through as we roll it on here 2611 02:17:44,520 --> 02:17:47,920 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Sunday. We'll get into Little League Baseball 2612 02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:51,480 Speaker 1: softball and some observations there in a minute. But in 2613 02:17:51,520 --> 02:17:54,560 Speaker 1: the NBA, for a while, it was every day we 2614 02:17:54,600 --> 02:17:57,600 Speaker 1: seem to be getting an update of guys wanting to 2615 02:17:57,640 --> 02:17:59,840 Speaker 1: be traded, demanding to be traded. And I know it's 2616 02:17:59,879 --> 02:18:02,040 Speaker 1: the summer, but doesn't mean you got to go quiet. 2617 02:18:02,040 --> 02:18:04,560 Speaker 1: You got to stay relevant. So we've had the latest 2618 02:18:04,560 --> 02:18:09,959 Speaker 1: twist in turn of James Harden, who either a reunion 2619 02:18:09,959 --> 02:18:13,680 Speaker 1: in the planet Houstinner somewhere else was expected to be 2620 02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:17,920 Speaker 1: dealt and now well, no serious offers means there's no 2621 02:18:18,000 --> 02:18:21,840 Speaker 1: longer James Harden trade in the offing anytime soon. 2622 02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:25,520 Speaker 2: The interesting thing about this to me is now that 2623 02:18:25,560 --> 02:18:28,480 Speaker 2: trade talks have ended. We've seen this before. Heck, we've 2624 02:18:28,480 --> 02:18:31,240 Speaker 2: seen Darryl Morey hold on to Ben Simmons and then 2625 02:18:31,680 --> 02:18:34,640 Speaker 2: ended up doing a deal. It brought him James Harden. 2626 02:18:35,000 --> 02:18:37,640 Speaker 2: So now James Harden, I don't know if he's off 2627 02:18:37,680 --> 02:18:40,800 Speaker 2: the trading block, if that would be the right phrase, Mike. 2628 02:18:40,840 --> 02:18:45,320 Speaker 2: But as he said, trade talks now have ended. And 2629 02:18:45,480 --> 02:18:48,120 Speaker 2: the Sixers plan, and I'll use the air quotes that 2630 02:18:48,160 --> 02:18:51,040 Speaker 2: you can't see on radio, plan is to have James 2631 02:18:51,080 --> 02:18:53,560 Speaker 2: Harden be available for the team at the start of 2632 02:18:53,600 --> 02:18:55,680 Speaker 2: training camp. Now, there are a couple of things that 2633 02:18:56,520 --> 02:19:00,400 Speaker 2: I feel are very important to point out. It's tough 2634 02:19:00,400 --> 02:19:05,280 Speaker 2: to sometimes to realize your own faults, and you may 2635 02:19:05,360 --> 02:19:08,920 Speaker 2: have to ask a close friend, maybe ask one of 2636 02:19:08,959 --> 02:19:13,960 Speaker 2: your brothers, can ask your significant other. That you could say, 2637 02:19:14,280 --> 02:19:16,879 Speaker 2: am I really like that? This happened to me? This 2638 02:19:16,959 --> 02:19:20,360 Speaker 2: happened to me about a week or so ago. My 2639 02:19:20,879 --> 02:19:25,280 Speaker 2: father in law made a comment about me being on 2640 02:19:25,320 --> 02:19:30,520 Speaker 2: the phone not talking but Twitter okay, And you know, 2641 02:19:30,680 --> 02:19:33,760 Speaker 2: I said that it was a joke. But I said 2642 02:19:33,800 --> 02:19:36,680 Speaker 2: to my wife afterwards, I go, am I on the 2643 02:19:36,800 --> 02:19:39,920 Speaker 2: phone that much like? I don't think that I am. 2644 02:19:40,440 --> 02:19:44,039 Speaker 2: She goes, You're on a lot and I just it's 2645 02:19:44,040 --> 02:19:48,320 Speaker 2: scrolling and scrolling, I'm like, wow, Like I didn't realize it. 2646 02:19:48,360 --> 02:19:51,200 Speaker 2: I needed you to tell me the truth. And that's 2647 02:19:51,200 --> 02:19:54,760 Speaker 2: where I feel James Harden is right now and Darryl Morey, 2648 02:19:54,840 --> 02:19:57,360 Speaker 2: while he's the general manager of the team that's going 2649 02:19:57,400 --> 02:19:59,879 Speaker 2: to give you the contract, he's also the one that's 2650 02:20:00,080 --> 02:20:03,640 Speaker 2: probably being able to give you the truth that you 2651 02:20:04,680 --> 02:20:07,440 Speaker 2: probably don't want to hear but need to hear, and 2652 02:20:07,800 --> 02:20:11,680 Speaker 2: that is that you are worth this much in terms 2653 02:20:11,720 --> 02:20:15,200 Speaker 2: of a contract extension. If anybody would want to give 2654 02:20:15,280 --> 02:20:18,560 Speaker 2: James Harden, I think the most that he could it 2655 02:20:18,600 --> 02:20:19,760 Speaker 2: would be Darryl Moury. 2656 02:20:20,000 --> 02:20:21,840 Speaker 1: Their history would say it, yeah, yes. 2657 02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:26,160 Speaker 2: And even though even though the Clippers would maybe give 2658 02:20:26,240 --> 02:20:29,200 Speaker 2: Harden what he wanted in a trade or if he 2659 02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:32,000 Speaker 2: was acquired and get the contract that he wanted, I 2660 02:20:32,040 --> 02:20:35,720 Speaker 2: don't know if he's really worth that much. And in 2661 02:20:36,080 --> 02:20:40,320 Speaker 2: the the fact is this is, if you're another team, 2662 02:20:40,920 --> 02:20:44,959 Speaker 2: or if you're the Clippers, if Darryl Moury is unwilling 2663 02:20:45,000 --> 02:20:47,720 Speaker 2: to give James Harden what he wants, what does that 2664 02:20:47,760 --> 02:20:50,879 Speaker 2: tell you about James Harden. And that's the part where 2665 02:20:50,959 --> 02:20:56,039 Speaker 2: I think it's where James Harden knows Darryl Moray knows 2666 02:20:56,120 --> 02:21:00,240 Speaker 2: James Harden knows him up and down, front and back, 2667 02:21:00,680 --> 02:21:03,039 Speaker 2: knows the type of player. So it's kind of like, well, 2668 02:21:03,120 --> 02:21:05,560 Speaker 2: if he's not willing to, why should we be willing to? 2669 02:21:05,640 --> 02:21:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the harsh reality of James Harden at 2670 02:21:07,959 --> 02:21:10,880 Speaker 1: this point, while he can be a great player at times, 2671 02:21:11,480 --> 02:21:16,520 Speaker 1: we've watched playoff after playoff. That's winning time. I don't 2672 02:21:16,560 --> 02:21:19,720 Speaker 1: care about your stats in the regular season. You can 2673 02:21:19,760 --> 02:21:22,320 Speaker 1: win all the regular season awards you want. You can 2674 02:21:22,400 --> 02:21:26,160 Speaker 1: win fifty games, fifty five games. Whatever that metric's going 2675 02:21:26,200 --> 02:21:29,240 Speaker 1: to be is fill up the statu sheet. Can you 2676 02:21:29,320 --> 02:21:32,039 Speaker 1: play consistently in the playoffs? And once again he did not. 2677 02:21:32,959 --> 02:21:36,360 Speaker 1: In an opportunity to give them that giant boost and 2678 02:21:36,440 --> 02:21:41,280 Speaker 1: push them forward, he failed miserably. I take nothing like Look, 2679 02:21:41,400 --> 02:21:44,880 Speaker 1: Joel Embiid was awful as well, but Harden was terrible. 2680 02:21:44,920 --> 02:21:47,480 Speaker 2: There were some forty point games, but when they needed, 2681 02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:49,360 Speaker 2: when they're up three to two in the series, they 2682 02:21:49,360 --> 02:21:50,680 Speaker 2: didn't get it done, couldn't finish. 2683 02:21:51,040 --> 02:21:53,800 Speaker 1: So part of that is all right, your history there. 2684 02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:57,000 Speaker 1: You're also older. You're a guy that doesn't necessarily take 2685 02:21:57,280 --> 02:22:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm being kind here, doesn't necessarily take care of your 2686 02:22:00,360 --> 02:22:06,039 Speaker 1: body around the clock working your way into shape anymore. 2687 02:22:06,200 --> 02:22:08,959 Speaker 1: Is not the way any of these professional leagues work. 2688 02:22:09,760 --> 02:22:11,840 Speaker 1: Right the Hey, the guy's in the best shape of 2689 02:22:11,840 --> 02:22:13,840 Speaker 1: his life. You're always in the best shape of your life, 2690 02:22:13,920 --> 02:22:16,560 Speaker 1: unless you're coming back off injury and you did something 2691 02:22:16,600 --> 02:22:20,160 Speaker 1: to retool and maybe you changed your diet and muscle whatever. 2692 02:22:20,280 --> 02:22:24,200 Speaker 1: Otherwise you're just rolling into the next season and you're 2693 02:22:24,280 --> 02:22:26,680 Speaker 1: in shape. Like back in the day, you know, guys 2694 02:22:26,760 --> 02:22:30,560 Speaker 1: used to report to NFL training camp after working, you know, 2695 02:22:30,920 --> 02:22:35,200 Speaker 1: delivering milk and beer and stuff, right, steaks, and then 2696 02:22:35,240 --> 02:22:37,119 Speaker 1: you don't have to work a second job anymore. You're 2697 02:22:37,160 --> 02:22:38,680 Speaker 1: training because that is your job. 2698 02:22:38,959 --> 02:22:41,800 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant and James Harden are really good friends. But 2699 02:22:41,959 --> 02:22:45,280 Speaker 2: one of the rifts between them when it came to 2700 02:22:45,360 --> 02:22:48,720 Speaker 2: the basketball team of the Brooklyn Nets was Harden showed 2701 02:22:48,800 --> 02:22:51,120 Speaker 2: up the training camp out of shape. Yeah, you know, 2702 02:22:51,160 --> 02:22:54,280 Speaker 2: and it was something that Durant didn't like. And now 2703 02:22:54,280 --> 02:22:56,640 Speaker 2: you wonder what is Harden going to do because he's 2704 02:22:56,640 --> 02:22:59,199 Speaker 2: opted in on his contract, so he's gonna make the 2705 02:22:59,240 --> 02:23:01,959 Speaker 2: thirty five million whatever it is for the upcoming season. 2706 02:23:02,040 --> 02:23:04,000 Speaker 2: But now that he's not going to get his way 2707 02:23:04,040 --> 02:23:07,160 Speaker 2: and be doubt and get the long term deal. Now 2708 02:23:07,240 --> 02:23:09,360 Speaker 2: is he going to be the Ben Simmons and just 2709 02:23:09,400 --> 02:23:10,840 Speaker 2: I'm not going to suit up? Is he going to 2710 02:23:10,879 --> 02:23:14,879 Speaker 2: just show up to camp overweight? But the fact that 2711 02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:18,520 Speaker 2: Darryl Mory is unwilling to give him the deal, I 2712 02:23:18,560 --> 02:23:20,400 Speaker 2: think is enough of a red flag for any other 2713 02:23:20,440 --> 02:23:22,520 Speaker 2: team to be like, maybe we don't want to give 2714 02:23:22,600 --> 02:23:24,840 Speaker 2: up the assets or give him the contract that he 2715 02:23:24,920 --> 02:23:26,360 Speaker 2: desires and make a trade for him. 2716 02:23:26,400 --> 02:23:30,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, per sam Amick, you know the athletic he's been. 2717 02:23:30,480 --> 02:23:33,440 Speaker 1: You've read him for years, says quote. No one longer 2718 02:23:33,480 --> 02:23:35,600 Speaker 1: wants to play in Philadelphia and has no plans of 2719 02:23:35,640 --> 02:23:38,600 Speaker 1: taking part in training camp. Like at some point, like 2720 02:23:38,720 --> 02:23:41,160 Speaker 1: you got your thirty six million dollars, are you a 2721 02:23:41,240 --> 02:23:44,120 Speaker 1: thirty Like? Look, someone else can argue whether you're a 2722 02:23:44,120 --> 02:23:47,199 Speaker 1: thirty six million dollar player, but in years to follow, 2723 02:23:47,200 --> 02:23:49,520 Speaker 1: are you a thirty six to forty million dollar player? 2724 02:23:49,760 --> 02:23:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm not taking that on for a guaranteed deal of 2725 02:23:53,000 --> 02:23:57,480 Speaker 1: three years or whatever you're looking for. And sometimes you've 2726 02:23:57,520 --> 02:24:00,520 Speaker 1: got to be able to read the room and recognize 2727 02:24:00,560 --> 02:24:03,320 Speaker 1: where you are in your career continuum. But again, the 2728 02:24:03,320 --> 02:24:06,039 Speaker 1: playoff failures of this last year, if that's not the 2729 02:24:06,120 --> 02:24:08,360 Speaker 1: thing to slap you up side the head and say, hey, 2730 02:24:08,600 --> 02:24:10,760 Speaker 1: this is why you're not getting the long term deal, 2731 02:24:11,320 --> 02:24:13,640 Speaker 1: because I mean, you're telling me he's how many tickets 2732 02:24:13,640 --> 02:24:17,920 Speaker 1: get sold because James Harden's coming to town, not as many, 2733 02:24:18,040 --> 02:24:20,199 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, it's not the same 2734 02:24:20,800 --> 02:24:23,680 Speaker 1: same thing of years ago. He's filling it up. You've 2735 02:24:23,680 --> 02:24:27,640 Speaker 1: got this scoring run where we're talking about he gets buckets, 2736 02:24:27,640 --> 02:24:29,600 Speaker 1: he gets to the fall line because that part of 2737 02:24:29,640 --> 02:24:33,160 Speaker 1: these game got taken away, right with some rules adjustments 2738 02:24:33,200 --> 02:24:36,280 Speaker 1: and stuff like, all of this plays into a you're 2739 02:24:36,280 --> 02:24:40,000 Speaker 1: still a good player. You're not a transcended guy. You're 2740 02:24:40,040 --> 02:24:42,840 Speaker 1: not a superstar. And if we're putting up all right, 2741 02:24:42,879 --> 02:24:45,880 Speaker 1: here's our twelve to fifteen best, I don't think you're 2742 02:24:45,879 --> 02:24:47,360 Speaker 1: making the back end of that list. 2743 02:24:47,480 --> 02:24:50,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right. And I know that Maury's asking 2744 02:24:50,520 --> 02:24:53,240 Speaker 2: price has been high, but Daryl Moury doesn't have a 2745 02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:56,040 Speaker 2: reason to lower the asking price. He held on to 2746 02:24:56,080 --> 02:24:58,680 Speaker 2: Ben Simmons and got what he wanted in return, like 2747 02:24:58,760 --> 02:25:00,800 Speaker 2: it worked out for him. It's out in the past, 2748 02:25:00,840 --> 02:25:03,920 Speaker 2: so why wouldn't this maybe end up working out. It's 2749 02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:07,240 Speaker 2: just a warning though to other teams that even though 2750 02:25:07,520 --> 02:25:12,760 Speaker 2: there's that high acting asking price. If Darryl Moury really 2751 02:25:12,879 --> 02:25:16,440 Speaker 2: truly believed that James Harden would help that team win 2752 02:25:16,480 --> 02:25:19,320 Speaker 2: a championship, I think they'd give him the big money 2753 02:25:19,320 --> 02:25:20,800 Speaker 2: contract that he actually desired. 2754 02:25:20,920 --> 02:25:24,039 Speaker 1: Go get his contract extension, as it were. Mike Garman, 2755 02:25:24,120 --> 02:25:27,520 Speaker 1: Dan Byer with you here, Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. 2756 02:25:27,640 --> 02:25:27,800 Speaker 2: Dan. 2757 02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:30,280 Speaker 1: We were talking about it a little bit off air, 2758 02:25:30,360 --> 02:25:33,760 Speaker 1: and we've been watching a veritable poperie of sporting events, 2759 02:25:33,760 --> 02:25:37,240 Speaker 1: and right now we've got the Little League Softball World Series, 2760 02:25:37,320 --> 02:25:41,560 Speaker 1: Ages ten to twelve, Connecticut and Texas. I wanted to say, yukon, 2761 02:25:42,760 --> 02:25:44,920 Speaker 1: like just I'm so programmed. 2762 02:25:44,520 --> 02:25:44,840 Speaker 2: So ed. 2763 02:25:45,480 --> 02:25:47,920 Speaker 1: But we're watching this game. It's early on, it's being 2764 02:25:47,959 --> 02:25:51,880 Speaker 1: televised nationally, which is part one of what we're talking 2765 02:25:51,920 --> 02:25:54,800 Speaker 1: about here. And you've got all the infielders wearing masks. 2766 02:25:54,920 --> 02:25:55,160 Speaker 2: Yep. 2767 02:25:55,200 --> 02:26:00,560 Speaker 1: Safety absolutely, safety paramount in this process. These look like 2768 02:26:00,560 --> 02:26:03,440 Speaker 1: they're like five to ten. Me being a follow of 2769 02:26:03,520 --> 02:26:05,240 Speaker 1: five nothing, I'm jealous. 2770 02:26:05,360 --> 02:26:08,879 Speaker 2: Did you say it's ages ten to twelve? I did, yep. 2771 02:26:09,040 --> 02:26:12,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, so we're looking at what fifth to seventh grade? 2772 02:26:13,280 --> 02:26:14,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, fourth to sixth yeah. 2773 02:26:14,720 --> 02:26:17,840 Speaker 1: Something like that, depending on birthdays and all, but we 2774 02:26:17,879 --> 02:26:19,600 Speaker 1: got that, we got the Little League World Series. The 2775 02:26:19,640 --> 02:26:23,600 Speaker 1: team from El Segundo here in southern California has advanced, 2776 02:26:23,640 --> 02:26:26,520 Speaker 1: so that's been a pretty big local story here winning 2777 02:26:26,520 --> 02:26:27,400 Speaker 1: the West Regional. 2778 02:26:27,840 --> 02:26:28,840 Speaker 2: But you showed me the. 2779 02:26:28,800 --> 02:26:31,600 Speaker 1: Grid of what the bracket looked like for the Little League. 2780 02:26:31,640 --> 02:26:35,280 Speaker 2: The world see the expansion of Little League and the 2781 02:26:35,680 --> 02:26:38,080 Speaker 2: expansion of the interest of Little League. Let me, that's 2782 02:26:38,120 --> 02:26:40,880 Speaker 2: a better way to put it to me as astounding, 2783 02:26:41,480 --> 02:26:44,120 Speaker 2: like think back to when we were growing up some 2784 02:26:45,240 --> 02:26:49,840 Speaker 2: thirty thirty five years ago, I know. And the reason 2785 02:26:49,879 --> 02:26:54,039 Speaker 2: that I need this timeline to explain why this is 2786 02:26:54,160 --> 02:26:58,560 Speaker 2: kind of a phenomenon. I remember the championship game being 2787 02:26:58,600 --> 02:27:03,600 Speaker 2: broadcast ABC's Wide World of Sports. US champion would take 2788 02:27:03,640 --> 02:27:08,160 Speaker 2: on Chinese Taipei team, or you would just see the 2789 02:27:08,280 --> 02:27:12,080 Speaker 2: championship game, and then it expanded. Then they said, all right, 2790 02:27:12,120 --> 02:27:15,520 Speaker 2: we're gonna show you the US Championship. So now you 2791 02:27:15,560 --> 02:27:18,400 Speaker 2: saw the US Championship game the day before, and then 2792 02:27:18,440 --> 02:27:21,560 Speaker 2: you saw the actual Little League Championship the next day. 2793 02:27:22,000 --> 02:27:25,240 Speaker 2: Then ESPN gets its hands on this thing and it's like, 2794 02:27:25,400 --> 02:27:27,760 Speaker 2: we're gonna show you the entire Little League World Series. 2795 02:27:28,480 --> 02:27:31,720 Speaker 2: This is what you've got Day one in Williamsport and 2796 02:27:32,200 --> 02:27:35,400 Speaker 2: Mike they are like, we need more Little League, So 2797 02:27:35,560 --> 02:27:39,080 Speaker 2: guess what We're gonna show you the championship games that 2798 02:27:39,120 --> 02:27:42,120 Speaker 2: are being played in these regions that will allow the 2799 02:27:42,160 --> 02:27:45,879 Speaker 2: team to punch their ticket to Williamsport. And then this 2800 02:27:46,040 --> 02:27:47,800 Speaker 2: past week, and it may have gone on for the 2801 02:27:47,840 --> 02:27:50,039 Speaker 2: last couple of years. I don't know, but to me 2802 02:27:50,120 --> 02:27:55,160 Speaker 2: it was it was so surprising we were looking at 2803 02:27:55,440 --> 02:27:59,240 Speaker 2: tournament games from these regions that weren't even championship games. 2804 02:27:59,720 --> 02:28:03,920 Speaker 2: I saw on TV Montana taking on Utah in a 2805 02:28:03,920 --> 02:28:04,760 Speaker 2: Little League game. 2806 02:28:04,640 --> 02:28:07,720 Speaker 1: Say Live sports Man, and I don't watch. 2807 02:28:08,120 --> 02:28:10,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's because there are so many 2808 02:28:10,640 --> 02:28:14,280 Speaker 2: networks and they maybe ESPN needs stuff to put on 2809 02:28:14,320 --> 02:28:18,560 Speaker 2: the networks, but I do think that there is there 2810 02:28:18,720 --> 02:28:24,400 Speaker 2: is something to putting your name of the state on 2811 02:28:24,440 --> 02:28:28,520 Speaker 2: that screen. Sure, So if you're from Montana or you're 2812 02:28:28,560 --> 02:28:32,600 Speaker 2: from Utah, you don't know where these kids are from, 2813 02:28:32,920 --> 02:28:35,800 Speaker 2: but you are watching like those that is the that 2814 02:28:35,920 --> 02:28:38,680 Speaker 2: is the squad that you are watching. Little League has 2815 02:28:38,680 --> 02:28:43,000 Speaker 2: also expanded its regions, so there's there's a bunch of 2816 02:28:43,080 --> 02:28:47,160 Speaker 2: different regions. Now they've gone to ten American regions, there's 2817 02:28:47,240 --> 02:28:49,200 Speaker 2: just a lot of different teams. Growing up, we were 2818 02:28:49,200 --> 02:28:54,480 Speaker 2: in the Great Lakes region. Now because the Great Lakes 2819 02:28:54,480 --> 02:28:56,879 Speaker 2: it was like its own region. Now there's a separate 2820 02:28:56,959 --> 02:29:00,440 Speaker 2: Midwest region. It's just more and more Little League. And 2821 02:29:00,760 --> 02:29:03,600 Speaker 2: I know that some people don't like it, they're not fans, 2822 02:29:04,160 --> 02:29:07,320 Speaker 2: But to me, it's just amazing on how much it 2823 02:29:07,440 --> 02:29:10,720 Speaker 2: has expanded. That it's expanded to all the way to 2824 02:29:11,440 --> 02:29:15,240 Speaker 2: semi final games in regionals that would even get you 2825 02:29:15,240 --> 02:29:16,920 Speaker 2: to the Little League World I just go back. 2826 02:29:16,840 --> 02:29:19,640 Speaker 1: To when when we were playing, we had very rudimentary 2827 02:29:19,680 --> 02:29:23,360 Speaker 1: travel ball. Right, you'd make an all star team and 2828 02:29:23,440 --> 02:29:26,880 Speaker 1: we would go to southern Illinois down to Matune, and 2829 02:29:26,920 --> 02:29:29,240 Speaker 1: you'd have a host family that you'd stay with for 2830 02:29:29,280 --> 02:29:32,360 Speaker 1: a couple of days and that kind of stuff. That 2831 02:29:32,480 --> 02:29:34,240 Speaker 1: was about as far as it got, right, There were 2832 02:29:34,320 --> 02:29:36,720 Speaker 1: no considerations. But the Little League World Series. I just 2833 02:29:36,760 --> 02:29:39,720 Speaker 1: remember it's like, all right, normally we're getting whatever bowling, 2834 02:29:40,240 --> 02:29:43,160 Speaker 1: there's a shankle giving me some earl. Anthony mark Roth 2835 02:29:43,240 --> 02:29:45,720 Speaker 1: battles like, no, no, no, it's a Little League World Series 2836 02:29:45,760 --> 02:29:49,200 Speaker 1: this week on ABC's Wide World of Sports. Right, and 2837 02:29:49,240 --> 02:29:53,800 Speaker 1: then the expansion as you as you laid it out 2838 02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:57,600 Speaker 1: just bit by bit, it's that more expansive. And I mean, 2839 02:29:57,600 --> 02:30:00,959 Speaker 1: we've got the great meme of good old my name 2840 02:30:01,040 --> 02:30:04,840 Speaker 1: is Big Al and I hit dingers that's become so legendary, 2841 02:30:04,920 --> 02:30:08,240 Speaker 1: like the kid introductions. As part of these things, we've 2842 02:30:08,280 --> 02:30:10,800 Speaker 1: had some major league players that we get to go 2843 02:30:10,840 --> 02:30:14,040 Speaker 1: and find their old footage and to show them playing. 2844 02:30:14,959 --> 02:30:18,560 Speaker 1: I just think it's a great celebration of these towns 2845 02:30:18,400 --> 02:30:23,360 Speaker 1: and cities across the country. And look, we always talk about, 2846 02:30:23,680 --> 02:30:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, representation is a big deal, and I don't 2847 02:30:26,440 --> 02:30:28,760 Speaker 1: want to make it sound like I'm making light of 2848 02:30:28,800 --> 02:30:33,080 Speaker 1: it in other aspects, right when we talk about culturally, racially, 2849 02:30:33,120 --> 02:30:35,920 Speaker 1: all those things of people being able to see kids 2850 02:30:35,959 --> 02:30:37,760 Speaker 1: like them. But if you're like a little eight year 2851 02:30:37,760 --> 02:30:42,480 Speaker 1: old nine year old baseball player, the soccer they kind 2852 02:30:42,480 --> 02:30:44,280 Speaker 1: of do the same thing. Where we're starting to see 2853 02:30:44,320 --> 02:30:48,640 Speaker 1: more junior soccer being played, Like that's a big stage. 2854 02:30:49,280 --> 02:30:50,920 Speaker 1: Like how about you work on your game? You could 2855 02:30:50,959 --> 02:30:51,760 Speaker 1: be on TV too. 2856 02:30:52,280 --> 02:30:54,760 Speaker 2: You're if you're an eight year old girl that likes 2857 02:30:54,800 --> 02:30:58,840 Speaker 2: to play softball in Texas, guess what Texas is on 2858 02:30:58,959 --> 02:31:01,360 Speaker 2: TV right now playing in a little league softball game 2859 02:31:01,360 --> 02:31:05,000 Speaker 2: that you could like there's there is absolutely something to that. 2860 02:31:05,320 --> 02:31:08,640 Speaker 2: I'm just astounded because I know in growing up in 2861 02:31:08,680 --> 02:31:11,920 Speaker 2: our town, we had a senior league baseball team that 2862 02:31:12,000 --> 02:31:15,039 Speaker 2: went they maybe won the state, so they went to 2863 02:31:15,080 --> 02:31:17,680 Speaker 2: the to the regional thing and they played games in 2864 02:31:17,680 --> 02:31:22,400 Speaker 2: Indiana and the you'd have to tune into the local 2865 02:31:22,480 --> 02:31:25,480 Speaker 2: radio station right to find out what the scores were, 2866 02:31:25,600 --> 02:31:28,040 Speaker 2: not that they were even broadcasting the game's live mic, 2867 02:31:28,080 --> 02:31:29,959 Speaker 2: because you didn't even just a news up there, yes, 2868 02:31:30,240 --> 02:31:33,720 Speaker 2: just a hey, so and so's dad called in to 2869 02:31:33,800 --> 02:31:37,240 Speaker 2: score from like you know, in that maybe very small 2870 02:31:37,280 --> 02:31:39,440 Speaker 2: town where I'm from, But that's how you would get 2871 02:31:39,480 --> 02:31:42,119 Speaker 2: these scores, or you would find out that way. Now 2872 02:31:42,280 --> 02:31:45,320 Speaker 2: it'd be like, hey, guess what we're gonna watch Charlie. 2873 02:31:45,360 --> 02:31:48,560 Speaker 2: He's playing on ESPN two. Like that's crazy. It's crazy 2874 02:31:48,640 --> 02:31:51,360 Speaker 2: to think on how much it has expanded that we 2875 02:31:51,440 --> 02:31:53,320 Speaker 2: would It's not even the Little League World Series, it's 2876 02:31:53,320 --> 02:31:55,240 Speaker 2: the tournaments they get you to the Little League World 2877 02:31:55,280 --> 02:31:56,400 Speaker 2: Series that are on team Well. 2878 02:31:56,320 --> 02:31:58,160 Speaker 1: Let me pull it back from TV for a second. 2879 02:31:58,200 --> 02:31:59,560 Speaker 1: I know we got to get to Ilo here at 2880 02:31:59,560 --> 02:32:03,480 Speaker 1: a second. Is like from my daughter's soccer tournaments, right, 2881 02:32:03,520 --> 02:32:06,039 Speaker 1: she travels a bunch and like they were out in 2882 02:32:06,040 --> 02:32:08,520 Speaker 1: New Jersey whatever. Well, there's all these different companies where 2883 02:32:08,520 --> 02:32:11,320 Speaker 1: you can now buy a package to have a live 2884 02:32:11,360 --> 02:32:16,440 Speaker 1: stream for that weekend's tournament. And is the technology one 2885 02:32:16,520 --> 02:32:18,600 Speaker 1: hundred percent. No, You're still missing a lot of the 2886 02:32:18,680 --> 02:32:22,760 Speaker 1: corners and the camera doesn't quite track the ball as 2887 02:32:22,840 --> 02:32:25,960 Speaker 1: well as it will in two to three years. But 2888 02:32:26,000 --> 02:32:28,440 Speaker 1: you at least get to see your kid play and 2889 02:32:28,640 --> 02:32:32,560 Speaker 1: some function. And we see that for baseball, for softball, 2890 02:32:32,600 --> 02:32:36,000 Speaker 1: for soccer, for volleyball, and that has become a multi 2891 02:32:36,040 --> 02:32:37,600 Speaker 1: billion dollar business as well. 2892 02:32:37,720 --> 02:32:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know we do got to get Isaac. But 2893 02:32:39,560 --> 02:32:41,320 Speaker 2: I'll just say the one thing with that that is 2894 02:32:41,480 --> 02:32:43,880 Speaker 2: active watching, because you're watching because your kid is in 2895 02:32:43,959 --> 02:32:46,440 Speaker 2: it or your nephew is in it. What this does 2896 02:32:46,760 --> 02:32:49,440 Speaker 2: This makes it very passive where you're just turning on 2897 02:32:49,520 --> 02:32:53,720 Speaker 2: the Oh, guess what team from Iowa. I'm from the Midwest. 2898 02:32:54,000 --> 02:32:56,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch this game. And it works. It's a 2899 02:32:56,520 --> 02:32:58,240 Speaker 2: lot of times like we talk about, like when you 2900 02:32:58,280 --> 02:33:00,840 Speaker 2: put a flag on a team West flag, you're like, oh, 2901 02:33:00,840 --> 02:33:03,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch this because it's USA. It's the same 2902 02:33:03,240 --> 02:33:06,240 Speaker 2: thing when they have those the states on that scoreboard. 2903 02:33:06,360 --> 02:33:08,920 Speaker 2: It brings people in and it's just crazy that it's 2904 02:33:09,240 --> 02:33:12,720 Speaker 2: expanded so much in little league or Little league softball. 2905 02:33:12,360 --> 02:33:14,400 Speaker 1: And I didn't even know I was looking for it. 2906 02:33:14,480 --> 02:33:18,560 Speaker 1: Dan Byers, Yes, we're a live forth Tirack dot Com, 2907 02:33:18,600 --> 02:33:21,279 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Studios. He's Dan Byer On Mike Harmon. 2908 02:33:21,480 --> 02:33:23,600 Speaker 1: Now it's time to turn our attention to a man 2909 02:33:24,120 --> 02:33:28,560 Speaker 1: among men. He is Isaac Lowenkron with a latest job title, 2910 02:33:28,680 --> 02:33:31,480 Speaker 1: the Forest Gump of the NFL. Stetsybeded. 2911 02:33:32,000 --> 02:33:36,080 Speaker 5: Indeed, he will be among our documentation that we go 2912 02:33:36,200 --> 02:33:40,680 Speaker 5: here starting with this just actually a programming reminder, Mike 2913 02:33:40,720 --> 02:33:42,400 Speaker 5: and Dan along those lines coming up at the top 2914 02:33:42,400 --> 02:33:44,680 Speaker 5: of the hour on Fox FS one, Fox Sports Go 2915 02:33:44,840 --> 02:33:49,480 Speaker 5: and Fox Deportes. It'll be Greenbrier, Arkansas. Third grade football 2916 02:33:50,040 --> 02:33:54,199 Speaker 5: coach Anthony Hood's Blue team takes on Matthew Bates' Black 2917 02:33:54,240 --> 02:33:58,200 Speaker 5: team in their preseason scrimmage. Kevin Burkhart, Greg Olsen, Aaron Andrews, 2918 02:33:58,200 --> 02:33:59,560 Speaker 5: and Tom Rinaldi will. 2919 02:33:59,360 --> 02:34:00,040 Speaker 1: All be on. 2920 02:34:00,840 --> 02:34:02,879 Speaker 5: By the way, those are actually real coaches in a 2921 02:34:02,920 --> 02:34:06,520 Speaker 5: real league, Green Brior, Arkansas. We're probably going, wait a minute, 2922 02:34:06,560 --> 02:34:09,440 Speaker 5: what what what? Anyway, Actually, at the top of the hour, 2923 02:34:09,480 --> 02:34:11,880 Speaker 5: we have an NFL preseason game kicking off with the 2924 02:34:11,920 --> 02:34:14,720 Speaker 5: New Orleans Saints hosting the Super Bowl champion Kansas City 2925 02:34:14,800 --> 02:34:17,520 Speaker 5: Chiefs on Friday. Head coach Andy Reid said that Patrick 2926 02:34:17,600 --> 02:34:19,720 Speaker 5: Mahomes and the rest of the Chiefs first string will 2927 02:34:19,760 --> 02:34:22,360 Speaker 5: play the first quarter. A short time ago, the Miami 2928 02:34:22,400 --> 02:34:25,320 Speaker 5: Dolphins side receiver Kei key cut, who was released by 2929 02:34:25,360 --> 02:34:29,199 Speaker 5: the Saints on Friday. On Saturday night, in the NFL preseason, 2930 02:34:29,480 --> 02:34:33,160 Speaker 5: the Baltimore Ravens made a twenty four consecutive preseason victories 2931 02:34:33,160 --> 02:34:35,880 Speaker 5: with a twenty to nineteen win over the Eagles. The 2932 02:34:35,879 --> 02:34:39,160 Speaker 5: Los Angeles Chargers over the Los Angeles Rams thirty four 2933 02:34:39,200 --> 02:34:42,320 Speaker 5: to seventeen, but Rams rookie fourth round pick Stetson Bennett 2934 02:34:42,360 --> 02:34:44,440 Speaker 5: had a good game seventeen of twenty nine for one 2935 02:34:44,520 --> 02:34:47,440 Speaker 5: sixty one with a touchdown pass. One major League Baseball 2936 02:34:47,480 --> 02:34:50,160 Speaker 5: game going on right now, Tigers and Red Sox tied 2937 02:34:50,160 --> 02:34:53,160 Speaker 5: at one to the top of the third inning at Fenway. Finally, 2938 02:34:53,200 --> 02:34:56,840 Speaker 5: in case you missed it earlier, we have a tennis update. Yesterday, 2939 02:34:56,840 --> 02:35:01,520 Speaker 5: in the semi finals of the Montreal Open IgA, Swiantech 2940 02:35:01,640 --> 02:35:04,880 Speaker 5: and Jessica Pegoulo were in the middle of a rather 2941 02:35:05,080 --> 02:35:09,160 Speaker 5: intense rally during a second sent tiebreaker when there was 2942 02:35:09,200 --> 02:35:13,800 Speaker 5: a most untimely faux paw by the sound system. 2943 02:35:14,080 --> 02:35:31,360 Speaker 9: Listen, Oh wow, Cotton Eye Joe just came on mid rally. 2944 02:35:32,040 --> 02:35:35,560 Speaker 5: Oh wow, if I could name that song in two notes. 2945 02:35:36,280 --> 02:35:38,880 Speaker 5: I mean there was you know, name that tune the 2946 02:35:39,200 --> 02:35:43,240 Speaker 5: game show. And this guy just randomly, with no warning, 2947 02:35:43,320 --> 02:35:46,400 Speaker 5: is able to identify Cotton Eye Joe instantly. 2948 02:35:46,520 --> 02:35:47,600 Speaker 2: So props to that guy. 2949 02:35:47,680 --> 02:35:50,840 Speaker 1: Back to you, guys, legend at Isaac Lowancroft Banks, Isaac 2950 02:35:51,080 --> 02:35:54,520 Speaker 1: coming up next. I want to be immortalized in butter too. 2951 02:35:54,600 --> 02:35:57,600 Speaker 1: And we have the progressive play of the day celebrating 2952 02:35:57,600 --> 02:35:59,800 Speaker 1: a streak that I don't know how much you got, 2953 02:35:59,879 --> 02:36:02,200 Speaker 1: you get celebrated, but I kind of dig it. He's Dan, 2954 02:36:02,280 --> 02:36:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm Mike. This is Fox sixty. 2955 02:36:04,440 --> 02:36:05,240 Speaker 2: Yard field goal. 2956 02:36:05,320 --> 02:36:07,520 Speaker 5: Try to close out the ham Chucker, get out the 2957 02:36:07,600 --> 02:36:08,480 Speaker 5: legg into. 2958 02:36:08,240 --> 02:36:08,600 Speaker 1: It at. 2959 02:36:16,600 --> 02:36:18,280 Speaker 2: Prince upstut. 2960 02:36:21,440 --> 02:36:26,040 Speaker 1: Hey, you go, justin Tucker, the excitement, the exuberance, the 2961 02:36:26,800 --> 02:36:30,879 Speaker 1: veteran progressive play of the day, progressive making things even easier. 2962 02:36:30,879 --> 02:36:33,000 Speaker 1: They'll help you bundle your home and car and church together. 2963 02:36:33,240 --> 02:36:35,320 Speaker 1: She can say, I'm both. Learn more at progressive dot 2964 02:36:35,320 --> 02:36:39,120 Speaker 1: com or dial up one eight hundred progressive dan Byer, 2965 02:36:39,200 --> 02:36:43,600 Speaker 1: the streak that continues. Network, I believe that's the Ravens 2966 02:36:43,680 --> 02:36:47,480 Speaker 1: Radio Network on the call, jacked up and excited about it. 2967 02:36:48,720 --> 02:36:50,880 Speaker 1: Sixty yarder and then you just say, all right, I'm 2968 02:36:50,920 --> 02:36:53,199 Speaker 1: putting on my baseball cap and walking away. 2969 02:36:53,000 --> 02:36:56,840 Speaker 2: My bad ninety eight Rock, Ravens Radio Network, ninety eight Rock. 2970 02:36:56,720 --> 02:37:01,279 Speaker 1: Even better specificity always for the win twenty to nineteen 2971 02:37:01,320 --> 02:37:05,520 Speaker 1: year final edge out the Eagles. And now we look 2972 02:37:05,560 --> 02:37:09,280 Speaker 1: at the Ravens with their twenty four game streak in 2973 02:37:09,360 --> 02:37:12,840 Speaker 1: the preseason, and I always struggle with how to I mean, 2974 02:37:13,160 --> 02:37:15,280 Speaker 1: how much weight to give it. I mean, obviously it's 2975 02:37:15,320 --> 02:37:21,440 Speaker 1: important to Harball that this stays alive. But we talk 2976 02:37:21,560 --> 02:37:24,040 Speaker 1: all the time, like I was on with Arnie on Friday, 2977 02:37:24,200 --> 02:37:27,440 Speaker 1: referenced it a little bit earlier, the fighting for a win, 2978 02:37:28,200 --> 02:37:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, slim margins and plays and you know, playing 2979 02:37:32,800 --> 02:37:35,480 Speaker 1: to the final whistle versus all right, we got what 2980 02:37:35,520 --> 02:37:37,200 Speaker 1: we needed out of this game, and let's move on. 2981 02:37:37,360 --> 02:37:40,280 Speaker 2: I would say the second that it affected your regular 2982 02:37:40,400 --> 02:37:45,240 Speaker 2: season was the second that you stopped caring about the streak. However, 2983 02:37:46,160 --> 02:37:48,480 Speaker 2: remember this is a team that lost JK. Dobbins to 2984 02:37:48,480 --> 02:37:51,640 Speaker 2: a knee injury. Just a few seasons ago playing in 2985 02:37:51,680 --> 02:37:53,680 Speaker 2: a preseason game, and again, you can get hurt on 2986 02:37:53,800 --> 02:37:57,920 Speaker 2: any play in the NFL, understand, But that didn't change 2987 02:37:57,959 --> 02:38:02,280 Speaker 2: anything with what the Ravens have done. And obviously John 2988 02:38:02,320 --> 02:38:04,879 Speaker 2: Harbaugh feels it sets a tone for their culture and 2989 02:38:04,920 --> 02:38:07,520 Speaker 2: where they are. But I would I would think like, 2990 02:38:07,600 --> 02:38:10,000 Speaker 2: as soon as it affected your regular season, they're like, Okay, 2991 02:38:10,040 --> 02:38:12,279 Speaker 2: we're not going to do that anymore. But it doesn't 2992 02:38:12,280 --> 02:38:15,280 Speaker 2: seem to have effected the Ravens. What's you know one bit? 2993 02:38:15,640 --> 02:38:16,080 Speaker 2: Very much? 2994 02:38:16,200 --> 02:38:18,720 Speaker 1: The Harbaugh next man up, if you ever want to 2995 02:38:18,760 --> 02:38:21,600 Speaker 1: see the application of it. The Dobbins injury would be 2996 02:38:21,640 --> 02:38:24,200 Speaker 1: as like, well, we got Gus Edwards for as long 2997 02:38:24,200 --> 02:38:27,200 Speaker 1: as he's ready to run, we're good. And we moved through. 2998 02:38:27,280 --> 02:38:29,760 Speaker 1: So a couple more preseason games today. We'll see some 2999 02:38:29,800 --> 02:38:33,000 Speaker 1: Trey Lance coming up later on this afternoon. There was 3000 02:38:33,080 --> 02:38:37,800 Speaker 1: some good fireworks in the Raiders forty nine ers the 3001 02:38:37,840 --> 02:38:41,960 Speaker 1: other day. Brock Purdy with extensive reps and struggling against 3002 02:38:42,000 --> 02:38:43,119 Speaker 1: that Raiders defense, and. 3003 02:38:43,080 --> 02:38:48,160 Speaker 2: The fireworks between Kyle Shanahan and Jimmy Garoppolo just amazing, 3004 02:38:48,280 --> 02:38:51,080 Speaker 2: Like a war of words in the media, almost of 3005 02:38:51,600 --> 02:38:54,800 Speaker 2: revisionist history. And Jimmy gen and saying like, all right, 3006 02:38:54,840 --> 02:38:57,520 Speaker 2: don't believe everything you hear, and then Kyle Shanaan confirming 3007 02:38:57,560 --> 02:38:59,640 Speaker 2: they were looking at Philip Rivers and he was going 3008 02:38:59,680 --> 02:39:02,640 Speaker 2: to sil like there's just there's stuff that doesn't match 3009 02:39:02,720 --> 02:39:04,640 Speaker 2: up with the decisions that were made. So I don't 3010 02:39:04,640 --> 02:39:07,280 Speaker 2: necessarily know who is all telling the truth, but for 3011 02:39:07,360 --> 02:39:09,600 Speaker 2: them to go head to head just weird. 3012 02:39:09,760 --> 02:39:12,880 Speaker 1: The Philip Rivers story is about as good as it gets, though, 3013 02:39:13,000 --> 02:39:15,000 Speaker 1: the idea that he might have been able to go 3014 02:39:15,040 --> 02:39:18,160 Speaker 1: and potentially win his Super Bowl, yeah, as a member 3015 02:39:18,200 --> 02:39:20,200 Speaker 1: of the forty Whiners after not playing at all, And. 3016 02:39:20,240 --> 02:39:22,840 Speaker 2: Why didn't Jimmy get surgery? Like that's like the point, 3017 02:39:22,840 --> 02:39:24,680 Speaker 2: like you would have been on ir Hecky was inactive 3018 02:39:24,680 --> 02:39:25,359 Speaker 2: for the NCA. 3019 02:39:25,520 --> 02:39:27,520 Speaker 1: If he was going to suddenly be ready like there's 3020 02:39:27,520 --> 02:39:29,680 Speaker 1: so much to it, Hey, Katelyn Clark got a butter 3021 02:39:29,760 --> 02:39:32,840 Speaker 1: statue at the Iowa State Fair. I'm turning fifty in 3022 02:39:32,879 --> 02:39:35,760 Speaker 1: a couple months. Should I get a butter statue? If 3023 02:39:35,760 --> 02:39:37,680 Speaker 1: I were ever to get a butter statue, this would 3024 02:39:37,720 --> 02:39:40,080 Speaker 1: be it. Anybody that knows how to sculpt one, let 3025 02:39:40,120 --> 02:39:43,320 Speaker 1: me know. He's Dan. I'm Mike Steve Hartman coming up 3026 02:39:43,360 --> 02:39:44,800 Speaker 1: with Jason Martin X on Fox