1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:22,675 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Trump 2 00:00:22,875 --> 00:00:26,275 Speaker 1: and heg Seth and Rubio may be sending thousands of 3 00:00:26,355 --> 00:00:30,555 Speaker 1: American troops into an ambush in Iran. They may also 4 00:00:30,595 --> 00:00:33,355 Speaker 1: be sending many of them, maybe most of them, to 5 00:00:33,435 --> 00:00:38,955 Speaker 1: their deaths, not that they care. Moreover, Trump and Hegseth 6 00:00:38,995 --> 00:00:43,875 Speaker 1: and Rubio may be lying wildly exaggerating how well America 7 00:00:43,955 --> 00:00:49,995 Speaker 1: has degraded Iran's military capabilities while wildly underrating how effective 8 00:00:49,995 --> 00:00:56,275 Speaker 1: Iran has been at destroying American weaponry, especially aircraft. The 9 00:00:56,355 --> 00:00:59,875 Speaker 1: last thing I am is a military strategist or analyst. 10 00:00:59,995 --> 00:01:03,715 Speaker 1: Never showed any aptitude for it, never wanted to. But 11 00:01:03,835 --> 00:01:06,875 Speaker 1: I am good at distilling the analysis of others into 12 00:01:06,915 --> 00:01:09,995 Speaker 1: one big picture. And in the wake of the conservative 13 00:01:10,035 --> 00:01:14,195 Speaker 1: publication the Washington Post reporting that the Pentagon is preparing 14 00:01:14,195 --> 00:01:18,355 Speaker 1: for weeks of infantry and special operations raids in Iran, 15 00:01:18,795 --> 00:01:22,115 Speaker 1: while Rubio is insisting it's all going so well we 16 00:01:22,195 --> 00:01:26,075 Speaker 1: would never need boots on the ground, the recurrent word 17 00:01:26,275 --> 00:01:31,395 Speaker 1: I see from the actual experts is ambush, one of 18 00:01:31,435 --> 00:01:35,315 Speaker 1: the recurrent words. The other recurrent word is asymmetrical. A 19 00:01:35,395 --> 00:01:39,955 Speaker 1: third word is lying, and the conclusion is far from 20 00:01:39,995 --> 00:01:43,875 Speaker 1: being dead. As Trump put it, Iran is conducting a 21 00:01:43,915 --> 00:01:47,875 Speaker 1: war designed to destroy our planes on the ground and 22 00:01:48,035 --> 00:01:52,835 Speaker 1: control or neutralize wherever American troops intend to land, or 23 00:01:52,915 --> 00:01:55,475 Speaker 1: be waiting for them when they arrive there. In short, 24 00:01:55,515 --> 00:01:58,955 Speaker 1: Trump and Hegseth and Rubio are losing this war and 25 00:01:59,075 --> 00:02:02,315 Speaker 1: may be about to lose a terrifyingly large number of 26 00:02:02,395 --> 00:02:08,595 Speaker 1: American troops, not that they care. The Iranians have destroyed 27 00:02:08,675 --> 00:02:11,555 Speaker 1: an American A Wax, one of the big command and 28 00:02:11,715 --> 00:02:15,715 Speaker 1: control aircraft. They destroyed it on the ground in a 29 00:02:15,795 --> 00:02:20,555 Speaker 1: base in the open in Saudi Arabia. The Pentagon lied 30 00:02:20,595 --> 00:02:24,155 Speaker 1: about this, flat out lied. They reported the A Wax 31 00:02:24,195 --> 00:02:29,035 Speaker 1: had just been quote damaged. Photos of the quote damage 32 00:02:29,155 --> 00:02:32,355 Speaker 1: then leaked out the back half of the goddamn plane 33 00:02:32,515 --> 00:02:37,235 Speaker 1: is missing, blown off. What the Pentagon said would be 34 00:02:37,275 --> 00:02:39,955 Speaker 1: a lie even if Sean Duffy were running the Pentagon, 35 00:02:40,715 --> 00:02:44,475 Speaker 1: that A Wax is gone, as our multiple KCY one 36 00:02:44,955 --> 00:02:49,755 Speaker 1: five refueling jets. Thus, the chief foreign affairs correspondent of 37 00:02:49,795 --> 00:02:53,235 Speaker 1: the equally conservative publication The Wall Street Journal is asking 38 00:02:53,275 --> 00:02:56,715 Speaker 1: if anybody at the Pentagon the Pentagon that Hegseth has 39 00:02:56,755 --> 00:03:00,395 Speaker 1: recalibrated to fight the Middle Eastern Wars of the twelfth century. 40 00:03:01,035 --> 00:03:03,515 Speaker 1: He's asking if anybody at the Pentagon has ever heard 41 00:03:03,555 --> 00:03:08,635 Speaker 1: of Operation Spider Web in Russia last year. I had 42 00:03:08,675 --> 00:03:11,555 Speaker 1: to look it up too. That, he points out, was 43 00:03:11,595 --> 00:03:14,835 Speaker 1: when the Ukrainians used drones and other low cost, low 44 00:03:14,915 --> 00:03:18,755 Speaker 1: risk means to wipe out much of Russian strategic aviation 45 00:03:19,075 --> 00:03:21,275 Speaker 1: while it was parked on the ground in the open. 46 00:03:22,995 --> 00:03:27,035 Speaker 1: He suggests that the Iranians learned much from Operation Spider Web, 47 00:03:27,355 --> 00:03:32,155 Speaker 1: even if we were too stupid to. I hear war 48 00:03:32,315 --> 00:03:36,675 Speaker 1: transports destroyed while parked, and I wonder not if Hegseth 49 00:03:36,715 --> 00:03:40,075 Speaker 1: didn't learn from how Ukraine turned Russia's for Day War 50 00:03:40,275 --> 00:03:43,675 Speaker 1: into four years of Russian disaster, but if Hegseth didn't 51 00:03:43,755 --> 00:03:49,275 Speaker 1: learn anything from Pearl Harbor. From the opposite view, it 52 00:03:49,395 --> 00:03:51,995 Speaker 1: is clear the Department of War is not being credible 53 00:03:51,995 --> 00:03:55,355 Speaker 1: about how effective American bombing of Iranian targets has been. 54 00:03:55,635 --> 00:03:59,235 Speaker 1: Reuters quoted an expert on Iran's missile capacity and the 55 00:03:59,395 --> 00:04:04,035 Speaker 1: entire Iranian military, someone named Nicole Gurdjuski of the Paris 56 00:04:04,035 --> 00:04:07,555 Speaker 1: Institute of Political Studies, who politely suggested Trump and his 57 00:04:07,635 --> 00:04:12,515 Speaker 1: liars may have quote overstated how much Iran's capabilities have 58 00:04:12,595 --> 00:04:16,955 Speaker 1: been degraded. Quoting the Reuter's story, she pointed to Iran 59 00:04:17,035 --> 00:04:19,955 Speaker 1: being able to continue to carry out strikes from bid 60 00:04:20,075 --> 00:04:24,635 Speaker 1: Kane military facility that is in Iran, which has been 61 00:04:24,755 --> 00:04:28,395 Speaker 1: heavily bombed, quoting her, the fact that they've managed to 62 00:04:28,435 --> 00:04:32,475 Speaker 1: sustain this, I think indicates the US was overstating the 63 00:04:32,555 --> 00:04:36,035 Speaker 1: success of its operation, Kradjuski said, adding she believed that 64 00:04:36,035 --> 00:04:39,475 Speaker 1: Iran still retained about thirty percent of its missile capabilities. 65 00:04:39,835 --> 00:04:43,075 Speaker 1: Kradjuski said Iran had more than a dozen large underground 66 00:04:43,155 --> 00:04:47,035 Speaker 1: facilities where it has been able to keep launchers and missiles, 67 00:04:47,515 --> 00:04:52,715 Speaker 1: Quoting her again, the big question is have these facilities collapsed? 68 00:04:54,595 --> 00:04:56,355 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, how did the Iranians know 69 00:04:56,435 --> 00:05:01,115 Speaker 1: where we parked our jets, including an a wax basically 70 00:05:01,155 --> 00:05:04,235 Speaker 1: at a meter on the street. How did they know? 71 00:05:05,275 --> 00:05:09,675 Speaker 1: Ukrainian intelligence caught the base in Saudi being imaged by 72 00:05:09,755 --> 00:05:13,795 Speaker 1: Russian satellites three times in the days before the attack. 73 00:05:14,715 --> 00:05:16,715 Speaker 1: This is what we've been talking about here for weeks. 74 00:05:16,995 --> 00:05:21,315 Speaker 1: The Russians are providing Iran with the exact location of 75 00:05:21,395 --> 00:05:26,995 Speaker 1: American assets, including personnel in the Middle East. Trump's response 76 00:05:27,035 --> 00:05:29,995 Speaker 1: when this came out was to lift sanctions on Russian oil, 77 00:05:31,155 --> 00:05:34,995 Speaker 1: which was really helpful to Russia. The Russians could then 78 00:05:35,035 --> 00:05:37,195 Speaker 1: make more money and not have to cut back on 79 00:05:37,235 --> 00:05:43,115 Speaker 1: things like ooh satellite imaging for Iran. Trump is still 80 00:05:43,195 --> 00:05:45,915 Speaker 1: essentially giving the Russians money to help Iran try to 81 00:05:45,955 --> 00:05:50,115 Speaker 1: kill Americans, and then he lifted oil sanctions on Iran too, 82 00:05:50,355 --> 00:05:53,555 Speaker 1: so they had even more resources to try to kill Americans. 83 00:05:55,115 --> 00:06:01,355 Speaker 1: Americans killed funded by Trump. Another analyst notes that it's 84 00:06:01,395 --> 00:06:04,955 Speaker 1: not just about the aircraft. Quote, look at what Iran 85 00:06:05,075 --> 00:06:10,715 Speaker 1: has been hitting since February twenty eighth radar systems, satcom terminals, tankers, 86 00:06:10,795 --> 00:06:14,435 Speaker 1: and now an a wax. That's not random. It's a 87 00:06:14,515 --> 00:06:19,715 Speaker 1: systemic attack on the infrastructure that makes US airpower function. 88 00:06:20,555 --> 00:06:27,395 Speaker 1: Iran's running an asymmetric counter air campaign. And then there's 89 00:06:27,435 --> 00:06:30,435 Speaker 1: this other part. This conclusion seems to be less universally 90 00:06:30,475 --> 00:06:33,675 Speaker 1: agreed on than the first part, that all American airpower 91 00:06:33,795 --> 00:06:37,355 Speaker 1: in Iran is at risk right now. This conclusion is 92 00:06:37,675 --> 00:06:42,475 Speaker 1: the Iranians know or are guessing the American military's likely 93 00:06:42,515 --> 00:06:47,235 Speaker 1: favored choices to land those how many thousand troops looks 94 00:06:47,275 --> 00:06:50,635 Speaker 1: like twenty five hundred marines and twenty five hundred other sailors, 95 00:06:51,115 --> 00:06:54,475 Speaker 1: per the New York Times, and Iran has attacked the 96 00:06:54,555 --> 00:07:00,755 Speaker 1: advanced scouting parties Harris, the pre landing troops. That is 97 00:07:00,795 --> 00:07:05,675 Speaker 1: an ambush. Destroy the opponent's communication system, destroy their means 98 00:07:05,715 --> 00:07:08,115 Speaker 1: of movement. And when you force them to meet you 99 00:07:08,195 --> 00:07:11,275 Speaker 1: on the ground, be waiting for them before they get there. 100 00:07:13,315 --> 00:07:16,155 Speaker 1: And all this is to say nothing of Marco Rubio 101 00:07:16,395 --> 00:07:20,475 Speaker 1: moving the goal posts again and again. On March ninth, 102 00:07:20,715 --> 00:07:23,915 Speaker 1: goal post over here, he said, the goals of the 103 00:07:23,915 --> 00:07:27,435 Speaker 1: mission against the Iranian regime are clear. Destroy their ability 104 00:07:27,475 --> 00:07:33,315 Speaker 1: to launch missiles, destroy factories making these missiles, destroy their navy. Friday, 105 00:07:33,795 --> 00:07:36,595 Speaker 1: he again said the mission was clear, only this time 106 00:07:36,795 --> 00:07:40,715 Speaker 1: it's a different mission. Again quoting the same Marco Rubio. 107 00:07:40,915 --> 00:07:44,835 Speaker 1: Our mission is clear. Iran will never obtain a nuclear weapon. 108 00:07:45,475 --> 00:07:47,995 Speaker 1: In my meeting with the G seven Foreign ministers, I 109 00:07:48,075 --> 00:07:52,515 Speaker 1: reiterated that we must meet this moment with maximum partner contributions. 110 00:07:53,835 --> 00:07:58,075 Speaker 1: Goal posts moved. It goes from destroying the navy, destroying 111 00:07:58,075 --> 00:08:00,915 Speaker 1: the missiles to getting everybody else to come fight a 112 00:08:00,995 --> 00:08:06,555 Speaker 1: war to destroy a non existent nuclear weapon. And they 113 00:08:06,595 --> 00:08:10,515 Speaker 1: are really pushing this nuclear bullshit. He's lightened up on 114 00:08:10,555 --> 00:08:13,235 Speaker 1: it the last few days, but Vance has been emphasizing 115 00:08:13,275 --> 00:08:16,515 Speaker 1: this fantasy of his that Iranians not only have suicide 116 00:08:16,595 --> 00:08:21,315 Speaker 1: bomber vests that they apparently can bring here, but that 117 00:08:21,355 --> 00:08:25,755 Speaker 1: they have nuclear suicide bomber vests or will soon have 118 00:08:26,315 --> 00:08:30,355 Speaker 1: nuclear suicide bomber vests that could kill in the thousands. 119 00:08:32,075 --> 00:08:35,395 Speaker 1: As somebody wrote, this sounds like a teenager vaguely remembering 120 00:08:35,395 --> 00:08:41,035 Speaker 1: the nightmarey had while he was stoned. Sounds like Vance, Hey, 121 00:08:41,075 --> 00:08:44,035 Speaker 1: maybe the nuclear suicide vests are being used by Haitians 122 00:08:44,035 --> 00:08:48,715 Speaker 1: in Ohio, jv. Against your dogs and cats. Or maybe 123 00:08:48,755 --> 00:08:51,915 Speaker 1: we have reached the true nightmare inflection point. Maybe there 124 00:08:51,915 --> 00:08:56,235 Speaker 1: are Haitian Iranian dogs and cats wearing nuclear suicide vests 125 00:08:59,835 --> 00:09:06,355 Speaker 1: in Ohio. Vance has also, just to cover all his bases, 126 00:09:06,715 --> 00:09:11,355 Speaker 1: seemingly been distancing himself from this war and Trump and 127 00:09:11,475 --> 00:09:15,955 Speaker 1: under cutting Trump. Somebody has twice leaked once to Axios 128 00:09:16,235 --> 00:09:20,075 Speaker 1: and once to Britain's Daily Mail, that is the spectrum 129 00:09:20,075 --> 00:09:23,275 Speaker 1: of news organizations in this world that Vance had a 130 00:09:23,395 --> 00:09:26,835 Speaker 1: tense or a difficult phone call with Net and Yahoo 131 00:09:26,995 --> 00:09:29,915 Speaker 1: in which he accused the Israeli strong man of over 132 00:09:30,075 --> 00:09:34,635 Speaker 1: selling how easy the war would be. Wait, you're saying 133 00:09:34,675 --> 00:09:37,555 Speaker 1: somebody was able to convince Trump something would be easy 134 00:09:37,835 --> 00:09:43,675 Speaker 1: and bring him glory. No way. You will also notice 135 00:09:43,675 --> 00:09:48,035 Speaker 1: that whatever Trump or heg Seth Hegseth between his ecstatic 136 00:09:48,075 --> 00:09:52,635 Speaker 1: religious visions and or blackouts have cooked up, nobody else 137 00:09:52,795 --> 00:09:57,275 Speaker 1: is involved. Trump threatened the UK, he cajoled the UK, 138 00:09:57,555 --> 00:10:01,715 Speaker 1: he massaged the UK, he dismissed the UK. Yet, in 139 00:10:01,755 --> 00:10:04,355 Speaker 1: an interview over the weekend with ITV News, Prime Minister 140 00:10:04,435 --> 00:10:08,115 Speaker 1: star still isn't biting. And if you have ever wanted 141 00:10:08,155 --> 00:10:15,155 Speaker 1: to hear somebody politely, elegantly, eloquently telling Trump to f 142 00:10:15,275 --> 00:10:19,675 Speaker 1: off in a central casting English accent, here you go. 143 00:10:20,075 --> 00:10:23,755 Speaker 2: Yes. Of course there's been some hard discussions with President Trump, 144 00:10:24,875 --> 00:10:27,275 Speaker 2: but a lot of what he said is designed to 145 00:10:27,315 --> 00:10:30,115 Speaker 2: put pressure on me to change my mind and to 146 00:10:30,115 --> 00:10:32,955 Speaker 2: get dragged into this war. But I'm not going to 147 00:10:32,995 --> 00:10:35,755 Speaker 2: do so. I'm the British Prime Minister and I act 148 00:10:35,795 --> 00:10:39,835 Speaker 2: in the British national interest and always will so whatever 149 00:10:39,835 --> 00:10:42,995 Speaker 2: the pressure, whoever it's coming from, I'm not going to 150 00:10:43,035 --> 00:10:46,195 Speaker 2: waiver on this. I will put the British national interest first. 151 00:10:46,355 --> 00:10:49,115 Speaker 2: I don't think it's in our national interest to get 152 00:10:49,195 --> 00:10:52,355 Speaker 2: dragged into this war. It is in our interests to 153 00:10:52,515 --> 00:10:57,915 Speaker 2: protect British lives and British interests and our allies in 154 00:10:57,995 --> 00:10:59,835 Speaker 2: the Gulf region. And that's what we're doing. 155 00:11:00,355 --> 00:11:04,635 Speaker 1: Frame that bottom line, Trump and Hegseeth may be sending 156 00:11:04,755 --> 00:11:10,035 Speaker 1: thousands of American ground troops or marines or sailors into 157 00:11:10,075 --> 00:11:13,395 Speaker 1: an ambush in Iran, and they may be sending many 158 00:11:13,475 --> 00:11:16,595 Speaker 1: of them, maybe most of them, to their deaths, not 159 00:11:16,755 --> 00:11:22,555 Speaker 1: that they care, And why would Hegseeth care. Hegseeth is fine. 160 00:11:22,835 --> 00:11:28,835 Speaker 1: He has a giant Crusaders cross tattooed on his drunkard's chest. 161 00:11:29,155 --> 00:11:32,915 Speaker 1: The last crusade was in twelve ninety one. The thirteenth 162 00:11:32,955 --> 00:11:36,835 Speaker 1: century Hegseeths lost that one. They lost nearly all of 163 00:11:36,875 --> 00:11:39,635 Speaker 1: the crusades. Matter of fact, the premise was Western control 164 00:11:39,675 --> 00:11:42,435 Speaker 1: of Egypt and the Middle East and the destruction of 165 00:11:42,475 --> 00:11:47,475 Speaker 1: all the Muslims. The thirteenth century Hegseeths lost, They got slaughtered, 166 00:11:47,835 --> 00:11:50,755 Speaker 1: and for seven hundred and thirty five years, the Hegseeths 167 00:11:50,795 --> 00:11:53,355 Speaker 1: of this world were largely smart enough not to try 168 00:11:53,355 --> 00:11:58,555 Speaker 1: this again. Today, unfortunately, they are too stupid to not 169 00:11:58,795 --> 00:12:25,915 Speaker 1: try it again. Because Hegseth has a tattoo. Yes, ICE 170 00:12:25,955 --> 00:12:28,515 Speaker 1: at the airports instead of shooting people on the streets 171 00:12:28,595 --> 00:12:33,315 Speaker 1: is a bad precedent, especially regarding the midterms. Ice at 172 00:12:33,355 --> 00:12:36,555 Speaker 1: the airport's ICE at the polling stations not that big 173 00:12:36,635 --> 00:12:39,395 Speaker 1: a jump, to say nothing of it being a really 174 00:12:39,475 --> 00:12:43,435 Speaker 1: unfortunate opportunity for ICE to partially rehabilitate its image. On 175 00:12:43,475 --> 00:12:47,755 Speaker 1: the other hand, on the whole, it's still better to 176 00:12:47,755 --> 00:12:49,635 Speaker 1: have them in the airports where we can find them 177 00:12:49,675 --> 00:12:51,915 Speaker 1: and keep track of them, than having them shoot people 178 00:12:51,955 --> 00:12:56,795 Speaker 1: on the streets. Also, any image rehab is being undone 179 00:12:56,835 --> 00:12:59,835 Speaker 1: by one of the dark horse candidates. We're craziest Trump 180 00:12:59,915 --> 00:13:06,675 Speaker 1: administration member, certainly most self destructive Todd Blanche, Deputy Attorney General, 181 00:13:07,035 --> 00:13:11,675 Speaker 1: who does not know that he personally is poised to 182 00:13:11,795 --> 00:13:16,075 Speaker 1: violate eighteen US Code five ninety two, the federal law 183 00:13:16,275 --> 00:13:21,475 Speaker 1: titled troops at polls. Let's hear Todd Blanche commit the 184 00:13:21,475 --> 00:13:25,475 Speaker 1: potential crime first, troops at polls, and then I'll read 185 00:13:25,555 --> 00:13:28,915 Speaker 1: you the law. Why is there objection to sending ICE 186 00:13:28,955 --> 00:13:35,835 Speaker 1: officers to polling places? Illegals can't vote? If you say, well, 187 00:13:35,875 --> 00:13:38,235 Speaker 1: no ICE at the polls is bad, but it's not 188 00:13:38,395 --> 00:13:43,195 Speaker 1: troops at the polls ahem. Eighteen US Code five nine two. 189 00:13:43,315 --> 00:13:46,035 Speaker 1: Troops at polls. Whoever, being an officer of the Army 190 00:13:46,155 --> 00:13:50,475 Speaker 1: or Navy, or other person in the civil, military, or 191 00:13:50,635 --> 00:13:55,315 Speaker 1: naval service of the United States, orders, brings, keeps, or 192 00:13:55,355 --> 00:14:00,315 Speaker 1: has under his authority or control, any troops or armed 193 00:14:00,515 --> 00:14:04,155 Speaker 1: men at any place where a general or special election 194 00:14:04,315 --> 00:14:07,515 Speaker 1: is held, unless such force be necessary to repel armed 195 00:14:07,675 --> 00:14:10,755 Speaker 1: enemies of the United States, shall be fined under this 196 00:14:10,875 --> 00:14:14,795 Speaker 1: title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both, 197 00:14:15,235 --> 00:14:19,235 Speaker 1: and be disqualified from holding any office of honor, profit, 198 00:14:19,395 --> 00:14:25,555 Speaker 1: or trust under the United States. Yeah, Todd already violated 199 00:14:25,595 --> 00:14:28,235 Speaker 1: the wording of eighteen US Code five nine to two. 200 00:14:28,595 --> 00:14:33,035 Speaker 1: Any troops or armed men at any place where a 201 00:14:33,115 --> 00:14:38,355 Speaker 1: general or special election is held, armed men, that's ice. 202 00:14:38,435 --> 00:14:43,875 Speaker 1: And also whoever ordered them there, let's see, be disqualified 203 00:14:43,875 --> 00:14:46,915 Speaker 1: from holding any office of honor, profit, or trust under 204 00:14:46,955 --> 00:14:49,275 Speaker 1: the United States. It's a little late, Trump, but there 205 00:14:49,315 --> 00:14:53,475 Speaker 1: you go. And in the interim by Todd, incidentally, Todd 206 00:14:53,635 --> 00:14:58,635 Speaker 1: said that to impress the kids at sea, pack seapack 207 00:14:58,715 --> 00:15:02,115 Speaker 1: nearly empty this year and reduced to the top one 208 00:15:02,235 --> 00:15:07,315 Speaker 1: percent or bottom one percent of the maga morons, how 209 00:15:07,355 --> 00:15:12,235 Speaker 1: many of you would like to see impeachment hearings? No, 210 00:15:13,275 --> 00:15:17,955 Speaker 1: that was the wrong answer. Again, how many of you 211 00:15:17,955 --> 00:15:24,995 Speaker 1: would like to see impeachment hearings? No, thank you, Matt Schlap. 212 00:15:25,995 --> 00:15:28,395 Speaker 1: The real highlight of Seapac, though, if you missed it, 213 00:15:28,515 --> 00:15:32,435 Speaker 1: was Mike Lindell. Mike Lindell being wrung up by a 214 00:15:32,475 --> 00:15:36,515 Speaker 1: female process server in the middle of an interview. He 215 00:15:36,755 --> 00:15:41,115 Speaker 1: eventually grabs the legal papers she keeps pushing at him, 216 00:15:41,355 --> 00:15:45,315 Speaker 1: and he flings them, which legally means he has accepted 217 00:15:45,395 --> 00:15:50,755 Speaker 1: being served. And this is especially being ad lib This 218 00:15:51,115 --> 00:15:56,235 Speaker 1: is outstanding dialogue. Most of them break a law within 219 00:15:56,275 --> 00:15:58,755 Speaker 1: the first three months. Most of them were on TV. 220 00:15:58,835 --> 00:16:02,515 Speaker 1: Here please bron TV, please, Brown TV, please okay, Brand 221 00:16:02,555 --> 00:16:05,955 Speaker 1: TV please. We're on TV. Please okay, We're on TV. 222 00:16:06,275 --> 00:16:10,715 Speaker 1: What are you shaving? TV? What are you staring about? 223 00:16:15,955 --> 00:16:23,715 Speaker 1: We're on TV? Please okay. By the way, Lindell was 224 00:16:23,755 --> 00:16:26,395 Speaker 1: also wrong on the other part of that. He wasn't 225 00:16:26,475 --> 00:16:30,875 Speaker 1: on TV. On TV, he was being interviewed by a 226 00:16:30,915 --> 00:16:36,755 Speaker 1: guy who works for Little Jimmy O'Keeffe's streaming service. If 227 00:16:36,835 --> 00:16:40,195 Speaker 1: Jimmy O'Keeffe's online feed is television, then what you are 228 00:16:40,235 --> 00:16:43,795 Speaker 1: listening to right now is the CBS World News Round. 229 00:16:55,755 --> 00:17:01,755 Speaker 1: I wish. So, what has Trump hallucinated lately? Well, the 230 00:17:01,755 --> 00:17:06,155 Speaker 1: story about the Sharpie pens that appears whole fabricated. Then 231 00:17:06,195 --> 00:17:08,635 Speaker 1: there's his claim that he learned about how winning makes 232 00:17:08,675 --> 00:17:12,515 Speaker 1: people follow you, and people following you makes you a leader, 233 00:17:13,195 --> 00:17:16,155 Speaker 1: that he learned that from the legendary football coach Vince Lombardi, 234 00:17:16,195 --> 00:17:20,155 Speaker 1: whom he says he knew, when clearly he did not 235 00:17:20,395 --> 00:17:25,755 Speaker 1: know Vince Lombardi. I have figured out something really disturbing though. 236 00:17:25,955 --> 00:17:29,875 Speaker 1: That explains his phony Lombardi's story and lifts it from 237 00:17:29,915 --> 00:17:34,115 Speaker 1: his usual bunch of shit. The pens story, first, it 238 00:17:34,195 --> 00:17:37,555 Speaker 1: is pure psychosis. He was offended, he says, at handing 239 00:17:37,555 --> 00:17:41,755 Speaker 1: out thousand dollars pens at ceremonial bill signings. This is 240 00:17:41,795 --> 00:17:44,515 Speaker 1: the clown who is pissing away four hundred million dollars 241 00:17:44,555 --> 00:17:49,115 Speaker 1: on a ballroom. His successor will implode, hopefully live on 242 00:17:49,195 --> 00:17:52,915 Speaker 1: pay per view. So Trump says he called the head 243 00:17:52,915 --> 00:17:57,355 Speaker 1: of Sharpie Pens, get me, mister Sharpie, and negotiated a 244 00:17:57,395 --> 00:18:01,395 Speaker 1: special deal to get special gold colored sharpies for only 245 00:18:01,515 --> 00:18:06,435 Speaker 1: five dollars apiece. First of all, the thousand dollars. Pens 246 00:18:06,475 --> 00:18:09,795 Speaker 1: he got rid of were actually cross rollerball pens three 247 00:18:09,875 --> 00:18:14,035 Speaker 1: hundred dollars apiece tops and the special discount on Sharpie's 248 00:18:14,235 --> 00:18:19,955 Speaker 1: which let him save hundreds. They sell on Amazon forty 249 00:18:20,955 --> 00:18:25,475 Speaker 1: forty pens for twenty four bucks. That's fifty nine cents each. 250 00:18:25,795 --> 00:18:29,155 Speaker 1: But he is Elmer J. Fudd billionaire, so he got 251 00:18:29,155 --> 00:18:34,515 Speaker 1: them for only five dollars apiece. Also, after his signature 252 00:18:34,555 --> 00:18:37,275 Speaker 1: on the Drawing of the Nude and the Jeffrey Epstein 253 00:18:37,435 --> 00:18:39,555 Speaker 1: Birthday book, why would you want to launch into a 254 00:18:39,555 --> 00:18:43,595 Speaker 1: five minute monologue about pens, about Sharpie pens? What the 255 00:18:43,795 --> 00:18:48,435 Speaker 1: f is wrong with this guy? And still the Vince 256 00:18:48,475 --> 00:18:54,115 Speaker 1: Lombardi story is even more frightening. You know, Vince Lombardi 257 00:18:54,235 --> 00:18:56,635 Speaker 1: was a very tough person, very tough football coach. He 258 00:18:56,755 --> 00:18:59,435 Speaker 1: was sort of a violent guy. Actually, I know him, 259 00:19:00,395 --> 00:19:02,435 Speaker 1: but he won and he got away with things because 260 00:19:02,435 --> 00:19:06,635 Speaker 1: he won. He didn't know him. He didn't know Vince Lombardi. 261 00:19:08,115 --> 00:19:12,515 Speaker 1: He didn't know that Vince Lombardi. I'll explain. I'll show 262 00:19:12,595 --> 00:19:16,275 Speaker 1: my math. Give me a moment first. One other assumption 263 00:19:16,275 --> 00:19:17,955 Speaker 1: about this is wrong. It turns out this is not 264 00:19:18,155 --> 00:19:21,395 Speaker 1: a new hallucination This is not a twenty twenty six hallucination. 265 00:19:22,435 --> 00:19:25,755 Speaker 1: It's an anniversary hallucination. A friend reminds me that on 266 00:19:25,835 --> 00:19:30,715 Speaker 1: March thirty first, twenty sixteen, ten years ago, a decade 267 00:19:30,715 --> 00:19:34,755 Speaker 1: ago tomorrow, in an interview with Bob Woodward and Robert 268 00:19:34,755 --> 00:19:37,595 Speaker 1: Costa of Washington Post, Trump told a similar version of 269 00:19:37,595 --> 00:19:40,915 Speaker 1: this about Vince Lombardi. And remember, in twenty sixteen, he 270 00:19:40,955 --> 00:19:45,435 Speaker 1: was only half crazy. I read from the transcript quote 271 00:19:45,675 --> 00:19:48,435 Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi. I saw this. He was not a big man, 272 00:19:48,515 --> 00:19:50,675 Speaker 1: and I was sitting in a place with some very 273 00:19:50,795 --> 00:19:56,555 Speaker 1: very tough football players, big strong football players. He came in. 274 00:19:56,715 --> 00:19:59,115 Speaker 1: These are tough cookies. He came in years ago, and 275 00:19:59,155 --> 00:20:01,155 Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. I was a young man. He 276 00:20:01,195 --> 00:20:04,195 Speaker 1: came in, screaming into this place and screaming at one 277 00:20:04,235 --> 00:20:06,235 Speaker 1: of these guys who was three times bigger than him, 278 00:20:06,275 --> 00:20:10,115 Speaker 1: literally and very physical, grabbing him by the shirt. Now 279 00:20:10,155 --> 00:20:12,475 Speaker 1: this guy could have whisked him away and thrown him 280 00:20:12,515 --> 00:20:15,475 Speaker 1: out the window in two seconds. This guy, the player, 281 00:20:15,595 --> 00:20:19,115 Speaker 1: was shaking a friend of mine. There were four players, 282 00:20:19,435 --> 00:20:21,715 Speaker 1: and Vince Lombardi walked in. He was angry and he 283 00:20:21,795 --> 00:20:24,275 Speaker 1: grabbed I was a young guy. He grabbed him by 284 00:20:24,275 --> 00:20:27,515 Speaker 1: the shirt, screaming at him, and the guy was literally 285 00:20:27,915 --> 00:20:29,915 Speaker 1: and I said, wow, and I realized the only way 286 00:20:29,995 --> 00:20:32,595 Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi got away with that was because he won. 287 00:20:33,395 --> 00:20:36,075 Speaker 1: This was after he'd won so much, okay, and when 288 00:20:36,075 --> 00:20:38,315 Speaker 1: you have these coaches that are just as tough as 289 00:20:38,395 --> 00:20:42,235 Speaker 1: him but they don't win, there's revolutions, Okay, nobody, but 290 00:20:42,355 --> 00:20:44,835 Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi was able to win and he got I 291 00:20:44,835 --> 00:20:46,515 Speaker 1: have never seen anything like it. It was such a 292 00:20:46,555 --> 00:20:49,635 Speaker 1: vivid impression. You had this big, powerful guy and you 293 00:20:49,715 --> 00:20:52,235 Speaker 1: had Vince Lombardi, and he grabbed him by the shirt 294 00:20:52,235 --> 00:20:54,275 Speaker 1: and he was screaming at him. He was angry at him. 295 00:20:57,035 --> 00:21:00,555 Speaker 1: The tell, as always, is the line in there about 296 00:21:01,115 --> 00:21:04,955 Speaker 1: big strong men. And you can say what you want 297 00:21:05,035 --> 00:21:10,675 Speaker 1: about what his continued woozy obsessions with big strong men 298 00:21:10,995 --> 00:21:16,275 Speaker 1: is all about big strong young men, preferably with tears 299 00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:20,915 Speaker 1: in their eyes. But for our purposes here, it's an 300 00:21:20,915 --> 00:21:24,275 Speaker 1: indicator that he's just making this story up. All that 301 00:21:24,475 --> 00:21:30,275 Speaker 1: was missing there is a sir. It's possible Trump was 302 00:21:30,475 --> 00:21:35,435 Speaker 1: in a as he puts it, place, and the greatest 303 00:21:35,555 --> 00:21:39,955 Speaker 1: figure in football of the nineteen sixties suddenly burst in 304 00:21:40,315 --> 00:21:45,875 Speaker 1: and started throwing football players around. It's interesting Trump doesn't 305 00:21:45,875 --> 00:21:48,755 Speaker 1: even think to explain if that was, you know, a 306 00:21:48,795 --> 00:21:52,675 Speaker 1: football locker room place, and if not, where the hell 307 00:21:52,755 --> 00:21:58,595 Speaker 1: else place? Could it have been a bar, something with 308 00:21:58,675 --> 00:22:01,595 Speaker 1: a window that a player could be throwing Vince Lombardi 309 00:22:01,635 --> 00:22:04,915 Speaker 1: out of. So not on the ground floor, so not 310 00:22:05,035 --> 00:22:09,955 Speaker 1: a locker room in a stadium somewhere. This sounds like 311 00:22:09,995 --> 00:22:13,955 Speaker 1: something Trump saw on TV in a documentary about Vince Lombardi. 312 00:22:15,035 --> 00:22:21,355 Speaker 1: NFL films and thus Semesters of the Midway see Vince 313 00:22:21,395 --> 00:22:23,795 Speaker 1: Lombardi retired as coach at the Green Bay Packers on 314 00:22:23,835 --> 00:22:28,555 Speaker 1: February first, nineteen sixty eight, largely because of what he 315 00:22:28,635 --> 00:22:32,995 Speaker 1: believed to be ulcers. February first, nineteen sixty eight. Donald 316 00:22:32,995 --> 00:22:34,995 Speaker 1: Trump was twenty one years old and still at the 317 00:22:35,075 --> 00:22:40,355 Speaker 1: University of Pennsylvania, not going to class. February first, nineteen 318 00:22:40,395 --> 00:22:43,475 Speaker 1: sixty eight. Trump's father was an obscure racist builder and 319 00:22:43,595 --> 00:22:46,755 Speaker 1: landlord in the outer boroughs of New York. It is 320 00:22:46,955 --> 00:22:49,875 Speaker 1: unlikely at best that either of them would have had 321 00:22:49,955 --> 00:22:54,275 Speaker 1: access to somebody like Vince Lombardi, easily the most famous 322 00:22:54,315 --> 00:22:59,195 Speaker 1: figure in football at that time, still the most famous 323 00:22:59,195 --> 00:23:01,315 Speaker 1: figure in football at that time when he came back 324 00:23:01,315 --> 00:23:04,395 Speaker 1: to the NFL as coach in Washington in nineteen sixty 325 00:23:04,475 --> 00:23:09,995 Speaker 1: nine and rivaled maybe by Joe Namath. And then Lombardi 326 00:23:10,035 --> 00:23:12,035 Speaker 1: got sick again. This time he let the doctors look 327 00:23:12,075 --> 00:23:15,035 Speaker 1: at him. June twenty fourth, nineteen seventy, he was diagnosed 328 00:23:15,035 --> 00:23:19,435 Speaker 1: with cancer and he died seventy two days later. Even then, 329 00:23:19,475 --> 00:23:21,155 Speaker 1: Trump had just turned twenty four and he was still 330 00:23:21,195 --> 00:23:26,155 Speaker 1: living in Queens working for his father. Not only did 331 00:23:26,155 --> 00:23:29,155 Speaker 1: Trump not know Vince Lombardi, but there was something else 332 00:23:29,195 --> 00:23:31,955 Speaker 1: in that remark that struck me as deeply, deeply wrong 333 00:23:32,075 --> 00:23:36,555 Speaker 1: and offensive. The part about quote he was a violent guy. 334 00:23:38,155 --> 00:23:40,555 Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi was not a violent guy. He was tough 335 00:23:40,795 --> 00:23:43,555 Speaker 1: and intense, and he played and coached a violent game. 336 00:23:43,835 --> 00:23:47,595 Speaker 1: And he actually, yeah, he grabbed football players buy their shirts, 337 00:23:48,835 --> 00:23:51,075 Speaker 1: and that was about it. He was actually a bleeding 338 00:23:51,115 --> 00:23:54,755 Speaker 1: heart liberal who, among other unexpected things, was a champion 339 00:23:54,835 --> 00:23:59,115 Speaker 1: for gay rights and gay players in the NFL in 340 00:23:59,155 --> 00:24:03,995 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties. So I'm thinking about this for two days, 341 00:24:03,995 --> 00:24:07,995 Speaker 1: and then it hits me. Trump didn't know Vince Lombardi. 342 00:24:09,355 --> 00:24:15,915 Speaker 1: He knew Vince Lombardi junior. He must have known Vince 343 00:24:15,955 --> 00:24:20,195 Speaker 1: Lombardi's son, Vince Lombardi Junior, and he saw the TV 344 00:24:20,315 --> 00:24:25,035 Speaker 1: thing about Vince Lombardi Senior and just put the two 345 00:24:25,075 --> 00:24:28,995 Speaker 1: of them together somehow. Vince Lombardi Junior was a football 346 00:24:29,075 --> 00:24:33,835 Speaker 1: executive who football people I knew implied might have been 347 00:24:33,955 --> 00:24:37,675 Speaker 1: kind of a violent guy. My only brief encounter with 348 00:24:37,755 --> 00:24:41,475 Speaker 1: Lombardi Junior was maybe a high or a handshake when 349 00:24:41,475 --> 00:24:44,435 Speaker 1: I covered the nineteen eighty two NFL players strike, and 350 00:24:44,595 --> 00:24:47,915 Speaker 1: Lombardi Junior was one of the negotiators for the owners 351 00:24:48,595 --> 00:24:50,795 Speaker 1: at a meeting in Washington. Once, I saw two of 352 00:24:50,795 --> 00:24:54,035 Speaker 1: my friends among the players negotiation team come out to 353 00:24:54,075 --> 00:24:57,275 Speaker 1: the lounge we used to hang out in between bargaining sessions, 354 00:24:57,315 --> 00:25:00,315 Speaker 1: and they were ashen. I asked one of them, what 355 00:25:00,435 --> 00:25:04,195 Speaker 1: was wrong? Own nothing. One of our guys tried to 356 00:25:04,235 --> 00:25:08,395 Speaker 1: strang Vince Lombardi Junior. That's all seems. One of their 357 00:25:08,435 --> 00:25:11,875 Speaker 1: guys was a linebacker and a lawyer. He was insisting 358 00:25:11,915 --> 00:25:14,755 Speaker 1: that the players have access to their medical records that 359 00:25:14,875 --> 00:25:17,555 Speaker 1: was part of the strike. A New York Giants running 360 00:25:17,555 --> 00:25:21,195 Speaker 1: back named Doug Kotar had died, the players believed in 361 00:25:21,235 --> 00:25:24,315 Speaker 1: part because he didn't know in time because he didn't 362 00:25:24,315 --> 00:25:27,315 Speaker 1: have access to his medical records that showed his headaches 363 00:25:27,315 --> 00:25:32,075 Speaker 1: where a brain tumor and Doug Kotar's shocking death was 364 00:25:32,115 --> 00:25:36,355 Speaker 1: the background to that entire strike and this negotiator for 365 00:25:36,395 --> 00:25:40,115 Speaker 1: the players, the lawyer linebacker, asked for the records access 366 00:25:40,275 --> 00:25:43,115 Speaker 1: and Vince Lombardi Junior, according to my friends there, said 367 00:25:43,435 --> 00:25:45,675 Speaker 1: what the hell would you do with medical records? You 368 00:25:45,715 --> 00:25:48,155 Speaker 1: guys are too stupid to read play charts, let alone 369 00:25:48,235 --> 00:25:52,635 Speaker 1: medical And according to their story, Vince Slambardi Junior did 370 00:25:52,635 --> 00:25:55,795 Speaker 1: not get the next word out before the negotiator had 371 00:25:55,875 --> 00:25:58,675 Speaker 1: leaped over the conference table and gotten his hands around 372 00:25:58,755 --> 00:26:02,675 Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi Junior's collar, if not his actual neck, before 373 00:26:02,675 --> 00:26:04,875 Speaker 1: the other players stepped in and broke it up and 374 00:26:04,955 --> 00:26:11,515 Speaker 1: save Vince Lombardi Junior. But still did Trump know Vince 375 00:26:11,555 --> 00:26:15,635 Speaker 1: Lombardi Junior? Was I giving him too much credit? Is 376 00:26:15,675 --> 00:26:21,475 Speaker 1: this just another Trump lie? It is not. Google still 377 00:26:21,515 --> 00:26:25,115 Speaker 1: can be your friend. Donald Trump did not know Vince Lombardi. 378 00:26:25,875 --> 00:26:32,875 Speaker 1: Donald Trump knew Vince Lombardi Junior. I quote from Jeff 379 00:26:32,915 --> 00:26:37,195 Speaker 1: Pearlman's perfect book Football for a Buck on the history 380 00:26:37,755 --> 00:26:41,355 Speaker 1: of the USFL, the United States Football League the league 381 00:26:41,355 --> 00:26:44,155 Speaker 1: in which Trump briefly owned a team called the New 382 00:26:44,275 --> 00:26:49,795 Speaker 1: Jersey Generals. Quote. The first time I met Donald Trump 383 00:26:49,835 --> 00:26:52,715 Speaker 1: was on a flight to a league meeting, said Vince 384 00:26:52,755 --> 00:26:56,435 Speaker 1: Lombardi Junior, son of the legendary Packers coach and president 385 00:26:56,475 --> 00:27:00,555 Speaker 1: general manager of the Michigan Panthers. I didn't know who 386 00:27:00,595 --> 00:27:03,075 Speaker 1: he was, just that he was a busy young guy. 387 00:27:03,795 --> 00:27:06,475 Speaker 1: He started asking all these football questions. Then he told 388 00:27:06,515 --> 00:27:08,515 Speaker 1: me I had no idea what I was talking about. 389 00:27:08,875 --> 00:27:12,835 Speaker 1: I thought, who the hell is this guy? Later on, 390 00:27:12,875 --> 00:27:15,195 Speaker 1: I noticed one very unique thing about the people who 391 00:27:15,235 --> 00:27:22,995 Speaker 1: worked for him. They only knew two words, yes, Donald unquote. 392 00:27:24,315 --> 00:27:27,715 Speaker 1: So so there it is. Trump. Trump did know Vince 393 00:27:27,755 --> 00:27:32,035 Speaker 1: Lombardi Junior. And Trump either thought Vince Lombardi Junior was 394 00:27:32,155 --> 00:27:34,235 Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi when he met him, or he thinks Vince 395 00:27:34,275 --> 00:27:39,475 Speaker 1: Lombardi Jr. Was Vince Lombardi now, or it's like everything 396 00:27:39,475 --> 00:27:42,595 Speaker 1: else Trump lies about or conflates, or his mental illness 397 00:27:42,595 --> 00:27:46,115 Speaker 1: conflates for him, or his brain disease conflates for him. 398 00:27:46,195 --> 00:27:49,235 Speaker 1: When Trump says Vince Lombardi was a very tough person. 399 00:27:49,275 --> 00:27:52,515 Speaker 1: He was a violent guy. Actually I knew him. He 400 00:27:52,635 --> 00:27:58,235 Speaker 1: is not legally lying, you couldn't sue him over that, 401 00:28:01,435 --> 00:28:05,675 Speaker 1: which is the mantra of Trump's life. If his lie 402 00:28:05,755 --> 00:28:08,195 Speaker 1: led to somebody trying to steal something, or shoot somebody, 403 00:28:08,275 --> 00:28:11,355 Speaker 1: or overthrow a democracy somewhere, you couldn't legally pin it 404 00:28:11,435 --> 00:28:16,235 Speaker 1: on him, because all he said was he knew Vince Lombardi. 405 00:28:16,435 --> 00:28:24,915 Speaker 1: He didn't say which Vince Lombardy. But nevertheless, it's not true, 406 00:28:24,995 --> 00:28:27,435 Speaker 1: and it's in many ways worse than just a lie. 407 00:28:27,595 --> 00:28:31,035 Speaker 1: It is Trump pulling one of the crooked deceptions via 408 00:28:31,035 --> 00:28:35,155 Speaker 1: which he has sailed unstopped through a corrupt and evil 409 00:28:35,235 --> 00:28:43,515 Speaker 1: life and adding it to the mix utterly, unnecessarily. Sure, 410 00:28:44,755 --> 00:28:56,835 Speaker 1: Trump knew Vince Lombardi, just not that Vince Lombardi. By 411 00:28:56,875 --> 00:28:59,475 Speaker 1: the way, while we're here, Trump also destroyed the United 412 00:28:59,475 --> 00:29:02,675 Speaker 1: States Football League. It was he who insisted on suing 413 00:29:02,715 --> 00:29:06,035 Speaker 1: the National Football League for anti true trust violations and 414 00:29:06,515 --> 00:29:10,915 Speaker 1: trying to move from the USFL's spring schedule where they 415 00:29:10,915 --> 00:29:13,955 Speaker 1: were beginning to get a little traction into direct competition 416 00:29:14,035 --> 00:29:17,955 Speaker 1: with the NFL in the fall. They won the lawsuit, 417 00:29:17,995 --> 00:29:22,995 Speaker 1: and the jury awarded them a dollar one dollar, hence 418 00:29:23,075 --> 00:29:27,315 Speaker 1: Jeff Perlman's book title Football for a Buck now, to 419 00:29:27,315 --> 00:29:30,715 Speaker 1: be fair, that one dollar was trebled because anti trust 420 00:29:30,755 --> 00:29:34,195 Speaker 1: decisions are trebled. So Trump and the other USFL owners 421 00:29:34,235 --> 00:29:39,395 Speaker 1: got three dollars in damages. Three dollars which would buy 422 00:29:39,435 --> 00:29:42,755 Speaker 1: you five of those sharpies that Trump can get you 423 00:29:43,435 --> 00:29:50,315 Speaker 1: for five dollars. Also of interest, here more testimony that 424 00:29:50,395 --> 00:29:53,315 Speaker 1: Scott Jennings is putting on a pro Trump Act, More 425 00:29:53,395 --> 00:29:56,515 Speaker 1: evidence that Bill Maher is putting on a pro Trumped Act. 426 00:29:56,675 --> 00:29:59,515 Speaker 1: And what happened to the dean of the pro Trump Act? 427 00:29:59,555 --> 00:30:05,635 Speaker 1: What happened to Rudy Giuliani? I mean this literally, where 428 00:30:05,675 --> 00:30:09,275 Speaker 1: the f is Rudy Giuliani? That's next. This is an 429 00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:14,635 Speaker 1: all new edition of Countdown. This is Countdown with Keith 430 00:30:14,635 --> 00:30:38,515 Speaker 1: Olberman still ahead on this all new edition of Countdown. 431 00:30:38,555 --> 00:30:40,715 Speaker 1: So here's a question that came up the other day 432 00:30:41,315 --> 00:30:44,635 Speaker 1: when I explained to somebody that I was friends with 433 00:30:44,715 --> 00:30:48,835 Speaker 1: somebody else, despite the fact that she was when I 434 00:30:48,915 --> 00:30:53,555 Speaker 1: met her, a Rudy Republican, an actual believer that Rudy 435 00:30:53,595 --> 00:30:56,715 Speaker 1: Giuliani should have been president. I believe in fact, she 436 00:30:56,915 --> 00:31:00,235 Speaker 1: cast a vote for him in a primary, she and 437 00:31:00,315 --> 00:31:03,875 Speaker 1: twenty two other people. Here is the question that came up, 438 00:31:04,915 --> 00:31:09,395 Speaker 1: What the f ever happened to Rudy Giuliani next in 439 00:31:09,475 --> 00:31:11,795 Speaker 1: things I promised not to tell, I'll try to answer 440 00:31:11,835 --> 00:31:15,995 Speaker 1: that question by going backwards by telling you my first 441 00:31:16,035 --> 00:31:20,395 Speaker 1: experience with him now thirty years ago, and I knew 442 00:31:20,395 --> 00:31:22,995 Speaker 1: he was nuts then in the interim, we always have 443 00:31:23,075 --> 00:31:26,155 Speaker 1: more new idiots to talk about. The roundup of the miscreants, 444 00:31:26,195 --> 00:31:30,195 Speaker 1: morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute today's other 445 00:31:30,915 --> 00:31:36,195 Speaker 1: worst persons in the world. Speaking of people I've known 446 00:31:36,275 --> 00:31:38,715 Speaker 1: forever and would rather say I never knew at all. 447 00:31:38,795 --> 00:31:44,275 Speaker 1: Billmar Remember all the talk about him getting the Mark 448 00:31:44,435 --> 00:31:49,275 Speaker 1: Twain Humor Prize at the Trump Memorial Kennedy Center and Grill. 449 00:31:50,115 --> 00:31:53,075 Speaker 1: Then the White House dismissed it as fake news, and 450 00:31:53,155 --> 00:31:57,395 Speaker 1: those around Mar denied it. Well, of course they're giving 451 00:31:57,435 --> 00:32:00,555 Speaker 1: it to him. You know, Bill Maher, the guy who 452 00:32:00,595 --> 00:32:03,115 Speaker 1: had dinner with Trump last year, and then Larry David 453 00:32:03,515 --> 00:32:06,355 Speaker 1: did the only thing Bill will be remembered for when 454 00:32:06,435 --> 00:32:10,155 Speaker 1: Bill is dead, Larry's Peace for the New York Times 455 00:32:10,475 --> 00:32:14,075 Speaker 1: My dinner with Adolph. In fact, it may be given 456 00:32:14,115 --> 00:32:17,715 Speaker 1: to Mar as the last event held at the Trump 457 00:32:17,795 --> 00:32:21,435 Speaker 1: Memorial Kennedy Center before they close it, so Trump can 458 00:32:21,475 --> 00:32:24,635 Speaker 1: go over there and spray rustolium gold number three four 459 00:32:24,755 --> 00:32:28,115 Speaker 1: h six four seven, seven hundred cans of it, and 460 00:32:28,155 --> 00:32:31,635 Speaker 1: then use whatever's left over on his own hair and 461 00:32:31,715 --> 00:32:38,875 Speaker 1: his hand. Now I hate to provide Trump any comedy material, 462 00:32:39,595 --> 00:32:42,235 Speaker 1: but he has, as the kids say, the chance to 463 00:32:42,235 --> 00:32:45,275 Speaker 1: do the funniest thing ever. In fact, he has two chances. 464 00:32:45,635 --> 00:32:50,035 Speaker 1: When Mar gets up on the stage, somebody who is 465 00:32:50,355 --> 00:32:53,195 Speaker 1: as equally desperate as Bill Maher is somebody who is 466 00:32:53,235 --> 00:32:57,035 Speaker 1: willing to give him this tarnus piece of shit award 467 00:32:57,555 --> 00:33:00,915 Speaker 1: that Mar is desperate enough to receive. And Mars says, 468 00:33:00,955 --> 00:33:02,755 Speaker 1: this is an award just like the MM He's only 469 00:33:02,955 --> 00:33:07,075 Speaker 1: quote where I win because Bill seems to think his 470 00:33:07,275 --> 00:33:11,875 Speaker 1: half assed, low effort show seems to have deserved an 471 00:33:11,955 --> 00:33:14,435 Speaker 1: Emmy at some point in the last twenty years, rather 472 00:33:14,515 --> 00:33:18,275 Speaker 1: than say Stewart or Colbert or Letterman or John Oliver 473 00:33:18,915 --> 00:33:24,035 Speaker 1: or Craig Ferguson or Conan O'Brien or Jimmy Kimmel or 474 00:33:24,075 --> 00:33:29,355 Speaker 1: even Jimmy Fallon or just Bars and tone. My point 475 00:33:29,395 --> 00:33:32,155 Speaker 1: is they have to have somebody else up there with him, 476 00:33:32,315 --> 00:33:36,115 Speaker 1: somebody to give him the comedy award who's also desperate 477 00:33:36,275 --> 00:33:38,955 Speaker 1: just to be in the spotlight to give Mar the 478 00:33:38,995 --> 00:33:41,635 Speaker 1: Comedy Award he does not deserve. And I have the 479 00:33:41,675 --> 00:33:48,795 Speaker 1: perfect choice, Greg Gutfeld, the equally not funny, equally lazy 480 00:33:48,835 --> 00:33:52,275 Speaker 1: guy from Fox. And then and then they should take 481 00:33:52,315 --> 00:33:55,115 Speaker 1: care of twenty twenty seven and have Mar give Gutfeld 482 00:33:55,395 --> 00:34:01,355 Speaker 1: the Twain Award. Anyway, what Gutfield should hand Mar If 483 00:34:01,395 --> 00:34:03,995 Speaker 1: that's not a good idea, well he should hand her 484 00:34:04,475 --> 00:34:07,395 Speaker 1: the Shania Twain Award for Comedy should be just a 485 00:34:07,435 --> 00:34:12,235 Speaker 1: statue of Shania. Now, if that's not the funniest thing ever, 486 00:34:13,395 --> 00:34:15,675 Speaker 1: and frankly saying out loud, I'm thinking, you know, it's 487 00:34:15,675 --> 00:34:18,315 Speaker 1: not the funniest thing ever. It sounds like something Bill 488 00:34:18,355 --> 00:34:22,195 Speaker 1: would have done seventeen minutes on. If that's not the 489 00:34:22,195 --> 00:34:24,675 Speaker 1: funniest thing ever, then this would be the funniest thing ever. 490 00:34:24,835 --> 00:34:27,995 Speaker 1: The award is scheduled to be handed out June twenty eighth, 491 00:34:28,315 --> 00:34:34,195 Speaker 1: the Kennedy Trump Bar and Grill Rostolium Factory Honors June 492 00:34:34,235 --> 00:34:37,915 Speaker 1: twenty eighth, and then the Kennedy Center closes. Here's the 493 00:34:38,035 --> 00:34:41,875 Speaker 1: Idea Award on June twenty eighth for Bill Maher close 494 00:34:41,955 --> 00:34:51,715 Speaker 1: the Kennedy Center on June twenty seventh Your Welcome El Presidente. 495 00:34:52,355 --> 00:34:55,075 Speaker 1: The runner up, Laura Loomer, the first real life professional 496 00:34:55,155 --> 00:35:00,195 Speaker 1: impersonator of the Family Guy character Glenn Quagmire Giggity, the 497 00:35:00,315 --> 00:35:04,755 Speaker 1: right wing influencer, human science experiment and practice subject for 498 00:35:04,875 --> 00:35:07,955 Speaker 1: all those aspiring plastic surgeons out there who are still 499 00:35:07,995 --> 00:35:11,475 Speaker 1: in high school. She is enraged at the appointment of 500 00:35:11,515 --> 00:35:15,715 Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg to Trump's White House Tech panel. Quote so 501 00:35:15,875 --> 00:35:22,315 Speaker 1: much for accountability. Zuckerberg deplatformed, Trump, censored his supporters, and 502 00:35:22,315 --> 00:35:28,595 Speaker 1: then helped steal an election, the Venezuelan one because there 503 00:35:28,635 --> 00:35:31,555 Speaker 1: wasn't a still an election here. I'm sorry, what a 504 00:35:31,955 --> 00:35:36,395 Speaker 1: slap in the face to Maga, writes Laura. Lumer writes, 505 00:35:36,435 --> 00:35:41,875 Speaker 1: it's a slap in the face. Careful with that language, Laura. 506 00:35:42,555 --> 00:35:45,555 Speaker 1: Kind of dangerous to invoke a slap to the face 507 00:35:45,995 --> 00:35:48,715 Speaker 1: when your own face is made out of old ash 508 00:35:48,835 --> 00:35:54,395 Speaker 1: trays and other recycled ceramics. But the winner, have you 509 00:35:54,435 --> 00:35:57,715 Speaker 1: seen her do a Google search and image search for her? 510 00:35:58,235 --> 00:36:01,755 Speaker 1: Oh my god, and then say is this ai and 511 00:36:01,835 --> 00:36:08,435 Speaker 1: the machine goes Nope. She actually like that. She looks 512 00:36:08,475 --> 00:36:12,115 Speaker 1: like a Nintendo character. So anyway, the winner, Scott Jennings. 513 00:36:12,475 --> 00:36:15,715 Speaker 1: The picture is growing clearer. Now we are now up 514 00:36:15,715 --> 00:36:19,275 Speaker 1: to three frequent panelists on the CNN Abby Philip Show. 515 00:36:20,795 --> 00:36:23,635 Speaker 1: You Know. CNN says it's forty six years of journalistic 516 00:36:23,675 --> 00:36:28,515 Speaker 1: reputation on fire starring Abby Philip. Three panelists on that 517 00:36:28,555 --> 00:36:33,435 Speaker 1: show who now say Scott Jennings entire stick mocking liberals, 518 00:36:33,835 --> 00:36:40,315 Speaker 1: hoaring himself for Trump, defending whatever crimes, MAGA commits lying, slandering, 519 00:36:41,035 --> 00:36:46,635 Speaker 1: being anti American, being racist, being homophobic, being threatening, being paranoid, 520 00:36:46,755 --> 00:36:49,555 Speaker 1: and mostly and this is the greatest of all of 521 00:36:49,555 --> 00:36:55,595 Speaker 1: his many sins, mostly being mediocre. Three other panelists say 522 00:36:56,595 --> 00:36:59,875 Speaker 1: it's all an act. First it was Miles Taylor, the 523 00:36:59,915 --> 00:37:04,115 Speaker 1: former Trump staffer and first term anonymous guy. Then MAGA 524 00:37:04,675 --> 00:37:08,515 Speaker 1: responded to that with outrage and Umbradge demanding that Jennings 525 00:37:08,555 --> 00:37:16,955 Speaker 1: sue Taylor, and Jennings responded by crickets not even subtweeting him. 526 00:37:17,715 --> 00:37:23,395 Speaker 1: Now frequent guest Julia Roginski confirms she can. She says 527 00:37:23,475 --> 00:37:27,355 Speaker 1: corroborate accounts that Scott Jennings trash Trump in the green 528 00:37:27,435 --> 00:37:31,235 Speaker 1: room repeatedly in front of me. Also have my suspicions 529 00:37:31,275 --> 00:37:33,235 Speaker 1: that he has to say in getting people banned from 530 00:37:33,315 --> 00:37:35,595 Speaker 1: the show. Who stick it to him and make him 531 00:37:35,595 --> 00:37:40,035 Speaker 1: look like a fool. Well just as in aside, if 532 00:37:40,035 --> 00:37:42,075 Speaker 1: that's the case. Though, if that's fully the case, how 533 00:37:42,115 --> 00:37:46,115 Speaker 1: could there be anybody else on the show anyway? That 534 00:37:46,235 --> 00:37:49,955 Speaker 1: follows the former Congressman Joe Walsh, who says, yes, Scott 535 00:37:50,035 --> 00:37:52,875 Speaker 1: Jennings is a fraud at in Walsh's words, a liar. 536 00:37:53,235 --> 00:37:56,515 Speaker 1: Walsh also says Taylor gets some kind of veto on 537 00:37:56,595 --> 00:38:00,475 Speaker 1: the other guests, quoting Walsh prior to the midterms, There's 538 00:38:00,515 --> 00:38:03,315 Speaker 1: no effing way I'll ever probably be invited to sit 539 00:38:03,355 --> 00:38:06,475 Speaker 1: on a set with him because he he's a efing crybaby, 540 00:38:06,675 --> 00:38:08,915 Speaker 1: and I have no doubt that he's probably told Abby's 541 00:38:08,955 --> 00:38:12,355 Speaker 1: producers don't put Joe Walsh at the table, I think, 542 00:38:12,435 --> 00:38:15,715 Speaker 1: because so I can corroborate generally with what Miles said, 543 00:38:15,915 --> 00:38:20,155 Speaker 1: Scott Jennings is a fraud. Continue the quote from Joe Walsh. 544 00:38:20,275 --> 00:38:23,315 Speaker 1: He's an actor playing a role back in the day, 545 00:38:23,435 --> 00:38:26,595 Speaker 1: Walsh says, when I was evil mister tea partier, he 546 00:38:26,795 --> 00:38:30,675 Speaker 1: was mister rhino establishment Republican Mitch McConnell. And the what 547 00:38:31,515 --> 00:38:33,555 Speaker 1: he found out that he can make a shitload of 548 00:38:33,555 --> 00:38:36,195 Speaker 1: money by being a maga tough guy, and that's what 549 00:38:36,275 --> 00:38:39,115 Speaker 1: he's done. He plays a role. He doesn't believe what 550 00:38:39,155 --> 00:38:42,875 Speaker 1: he says, he lies, he plays the role, and I 551 00:38:42,875 --> 00:38:45,595 Speaker 1: think it's just disappointing for CNN and folks to give 552 00:38:45,675 --> 00:38:49,155 Speaker 1: him that platform because he doesn't believe what he says. 553 00:38:49,435 --> 00:38:52,715 Speaker 1: I'd rather have true believer Maga folks on those shows 554 00:38:52,835 --> 00:38:57,435 Speaker 1: than somebody like Jennings. Sadly, Joe, you're going to get 555 00:38:57,435 --> 00:39:00,835 Speaker 1: that opportunity sooner than you think. But anyway, in the interim, 556 00:39:01,195 --> 00:39:04,075 Speaker 1: Jennings as he makes his Kermit the frog's scrunchy face 557 00:39:04,115 --> 00:39:08,315 Speaker 1: to the camera is while actual liberals, usually overly serious 558 00:39:08,355 --> 00:39:11,835 Speaker 1: ones who should be asking themselves, why am I participating 559 00:39:11,835 --> 00:39:15,315 Speaker 1: in this bullshit? Who am I that has to be 560 00:39:15,395 --> 00:39:19,115 Speaker 1: on TV? Who am I? Bill Maher? I would rather 561 00:39:19,235 --> 00:39:22,315 Speaker 1: humiliate myself this way. Everybody goes on that show, Oh 562 00:39:22,395 --> 00:39:26,395 Speaker 1: you did a good job. You're participating in the mainstreaming 563 00:39:26,515 --> 00:39:32,875 Speaker 1: of MAGA. You're participating in raising up Scott Jennings, not 564 00:39:32,995 --> 00:39:37,235 Speaker 1: just MAGA, but lying warring MAGA to your level. You 565 00:39:37,275 --> 00:39:39,875 Speaker 1: are bringing him up out of the gutter and saying 566 00:39:40,595 --> 00:39:43,435 Speaker 1: he's the equivalent. His opinions, although they are wrong, are 567 00:39:43,475 --> 00:39:48,075 Speaker 1: the equivalent of Julie Roginsky's or Miles Taylor or Joe Walsh's. 568 00:39:48,155 --> 00:39:51,875 Speaker 1: They're not just go on and one night, let's have 569 00:39:51,915 --> 00:39:53,755 Speaker 1: it the way it's going to be in the future anyway, 570 00:39:54,715 --> 00:40:03,235 Speaker 1: Abby filled up and her guests Scott Jennings anyway, So 571 00:40:03,395 --> 00:40:06,675 Speaker 1: while Jennings makes those Kermit the frog faces and the 572 00:40:06,835 --> 00:40:09,715 Speaker 1: liberals stick to the facts and not making shit up 573 00:40:09,755 --> 00:40:13,635 Speaker 1: like Jennings does. Jennings is the star of the Abbey 574 00:40:13,635 --> 00:40:15,955 Speaker 1: Phillip Show, which raises the question once again that I 575 00:40:15,995 --> 00:40:19,675 Speaker 1: brought up here previously, why is she Abby Phillip destroying 576 00:40:19,675 --> 00:40:23,635 Speaker 1: whatever reputation she once had by participating in this. She 577 00:40:23,755 --> 00:40:26,715 Speaker 1: used to do a news show on there. She wasn't 578 00:40:26,795 --> 00:40:28,835 Speaker 1: very good at it, but at least it was her show, 579 00:40:29,035 --> 00:40:31,275 Speaker 1: and she might have gotten better and she could have 580 00:40:31,315 --> 00:40:34,715 Speaker 1: stayed in the news business. She is hiding behind the 581 00:40:34,795 --> 00:40:37,635 Speaker 1: concepts of oh, this is political debate in the exchange 582 00:40:37,635 --> 00:40:41,195 Speaker 1: of ideas and the market, Miss Phillip. Right wing liars 583 00:40:41,235 --> 00:40:45,835 Speaker 1: have enough platforms as it is. They can exchange their 584 00:40:45,875 --> 00:40:48,315 Speaker 1: points of view on a dozen right wing news and 585 00:40:48,395 --> 00:40:52,955 Speaker 1: talk channels and streams where they can lie without any 586 00:40:53,075 --> 00:40:56,475 Speaker 1: more or less innocent passers. By like yourself and your 587 00:40:56,555 --> 00:41:01,635 Speaker 1: guests getting destroyed. The real problem arises, Abby Phillip, when 588 00:41:01,635 --> 00:41:05,155 Speaker 1: the new Barry Weiss or Barry Weiss clones in by 589 00:41:05,195 --> 00:41:09,595 Speaker 1: the Ellison demons, takes over CNN and points his or 590 00:41:09,635 --> 00:41:13,315 Speaker 1: her Maga death ray at the people Trump still doesn't 591 00:41:13,395 --> 00:41:17,035 Speaker 1: like there, Caitlyn Collins, Jake Tapper, anybody else, even the 592 00:41:17,035 --> 00:41:20,155 Speaker 1: ones who at times pandered to Trump or did in 593 00:41:20,195 --> 00:41:23,555 Speaker 1: fact check him at a debate. Funny the debate I'm 594 00:41:23,595 --> 00:41:26,115 Speaker 1: thinking of was co hosted by Caitlyn Collins and Jake 595 00:41:26,155 --> 00:41:30,395 Speaker 1: Tapper and even the ones who platformed his whoors like 596 00:41:30,435 --> 00:41:36,115 Speaker 1: Scott Jennings. The new CNN is going to fire all 597 00:41:36,195 --> 00:41:40,195 Speaker 1: the people like Abby Phillip, and Abby Phillip will then 598 00:41:40,235 --> 00:41:43,395 Speaker 1: walk out the door, probably with a little money. Good 599 00:41:43,435 --> 00:41:45,835 Speaker 1: for you, but she will then think she has a 600 00:41:45,875 --> 00:41:53,035 Speaker 1: gig waiting for her at MS Midas touch nowhere. Abby 601 00:41:53,075 --> 00:41:58,915 Speaker 1: Phillip has a gig waiting for her nowhere because Fox 602 00:41:58,955 --> 00:42:01,075 Speaker 1: isn't going to hire her. She's hated by the right. 603 00:42:01,555 --> 00:42:06,435 Speaker 1: She contradicts Scott Jennings. If You're name meanwhile, is on 604 00:42:06,475 --> 00:42:09,395 Speaker 1: the TV show of a whore like Scott Jennings. What 605 00:42:09,475 --> 00:42:13,115 Speaker 1: does that make you Abby Phillip? What do they call 606 00:42:13,155 --> 00:42:15,555 Speaker 1: the person who lets the whore do the work but 607 00:42:15,595 --> 00:42:22,155 Speaker 1: then collects the money? Scott Jennings, Oh, Today's other. Nah, 608 00:42:22,195 --> 00:42:24,875 Speaker 1: I'm going on audible here, I'm changing the worst person. 609 00:42:25,115 --> 00:42:32,155 Speaker 1: Actually it's Abby Philip, Today's other worst person and the world. 610 00:42:43,195 --> 00:42:48,195 Speaker 1: Whatever happened to Rudy Giuliani? I'm serious? When was the 611 00:42:48,235 --> 00:42:50,915 Speaker 1: last time you heard a story about Rudy Giuliani? Look, 612 00:42:50,955 --> 00:42:54,915 Speaker 1: I am not asking for more Rudy Giuliani. It's nice 613 00:42:54,915 --> 00:42:59,435 Speaker 1: that there haven't been any Rudy Giuliani stories lately. It's 614 00:42:59,515 --> 00:43:04,195 Speaker 1: nice that maybe he's disappeared. It's nice that his lawsuits 615 00:43:04,195 --> 00:43:06,395 Speaker 1: and lawsuit against him are not in the news, and 616 00:43:06,435 --> 00:43:08,795 Speaker 1: Trump isn't talking about him, and they aren't trying to 617 00:43:08,795 --> 00:43:11,555 Speaker 1: pardon him, and he isn't trying to sell pardons, and 618 00:43:11,595 --> 00:43:15,915 Speaker 1: he isn't involved in the Iran war. It's nice, but 619 00:43:15,995 --> 00:43:18,995 Speaker 1: it does raise a question. And don't say it begs 620 00:43:19,035 --> 00:43:23,595 Speaker 1: the question. That's not what begs the question. Means it 621 00:43:23,755 --> 00:43:29,835 Speaker 1: raises the question, what the f happened to Rudy Giuliani. Well, 622 00:43:29,995 --> 00:43:32,115 Speaker 1: that's a question that's been asked for a long time 623 00:43:32,355 --> 00:43:35,875 Speaker 1: with a different meaning, but it's the same question. What 624 00:43:35,955 --> 00:43:38,555 Speaker 1: the f happened to Rudy Giuliani has been asked more 625 00:43:38,675 --> 00:43:42,155 Speaker 1: or less continuously since about two weeks after nine to 626 00:43:42,155 --> 00:43:46,355 Speaker 1: eleven to the number one story on the Countdown on 627 00:43:46,395 --> 00:43:49,675 Speaker 1: my favorite topic, me and things I promised not to tell, 628 00:43:49,715 --> 00:43:53,715 Speaker 1: And I hear this question about Rudy Giuliani a lot. 629 00:43:54,635 --> 00:43:58,475 Speaker 1: What the f happened to Rudy Giuliani? When did his 630 00:43:58,595 --> 00:44:03,955 Speaker 1: life go so horribly wrong? Here was America's mayor the 631 00:44:04,155 --> 00:44:08,475 Speaker 1: rock in the hours of crisis on nine to eleven 632 00:44:08,955 --> 00:44:12,115 Speaker 1: and twelve and thirteen and fourteen, and maybe for about 633 00:44:12,155 --> 00:44:16,395 Speaker 1: two weeks. And what is he now? After literally years 634 00:44:16,395 --> 00:44:20,475 Speaker 1: of trying to sell the Hunter Biden laptop story? Who 635 00:44:20,475 --> 00:44:26,235 Speaker 1: did the Hunter Biden laptop story bite him? Four seasons 636 00:44:26,275 --> 00:44:31,875 Speaker 1: gardening that'll be part of his obituary, the mascara running 637 00:44:31,915 --> 00:44:36,875 Speaker 1: down his face, gaseous emissions at phony election hearings, the 638 00:44:36,955 --> 00:44:41,675 Speaker 1: role in the Sasha Baron Cohen film, selling pardons, maybe 639 00:44:42,035 --> 00:44:47,675 Speaker 1: asking four pardons, maybe popping viagra constantly. Maybe fired by 640 00:44:47,835 --> 00:44:51,715 Speaker 1: WABC MAGA radio in New York by an equally crazy 641 00:44:51,835 --> 00:44:55,675 Speaker 1: fascist conservative who finally had to get rid of him. 642 00:44:55,675 --> 00:44:59,475 Speaker 1: Because Rudy's obsessional delusion about the twenty twenty election was 643 00:44:59,835 --> 00:45:06,195 Speaker 1: too obsessional for this Trump supporting mag a lunatic, and 644 00:45:06,235 --> 00:45:08,075 Speaker 1: the guy who fired him, when he fired him, had 645 00:45:08,115 --> 00:45:10,275 Speaker 1: tears in his eyes and said Rudy was like a 646 00:45:10,315 --> 00:45:13,795 Speaker 1: brother to him, to which Rudy responded by filing the 647 00:45:13,875 --> 00:45:19,875 Speaker 1: multi million dollar lawsuit against him my brother. I mean, 648 00:45:19,995 --> 00:45:24,835 Speaker 1: even back then two thousand and eight, I thought it 649 00:45:24,835 --> 00:45:27,275 Speaker 1: was nuts that people actually thought Giuliani was the front 650 00:45:27,315 --> 00:45:30,315 Speaker 1: runner for the two thousand and eight Republican presidential nomination, 651 00:45:30,555 --> 00:45:34,115 Speaker 1: which he was widely held to be after Bush's re 652 00:45:34,235 --> 00:45:37,795 Speaker 1: election to two thousand and five six especially two thousand 653 00:45:37,795 --> 00:45:43,155 Speaker 1: and seven, and by the time that Republican presidential nomination 654 00:45:43,555 --> 00:45:46,475 Speaker 1: came about, he was already on his way to having 655 00:45:46,475 --> 00:45:51,835 Speaker 1: spent millions to finish last. But it was the last 656 00:45:51,915 --> 00:45:55,715 Speaker 1: nail in the coffin he lives. In a Democratic debate 657 00:45:55,755 --> 00:45:58,635 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, on October thirtieth, before the 658 00:45:58,675 --> 00:46:01,915 Speaker 1: field shook out, everybody but Obama and Hillary and one 659 00:46:01,955 --> 00:46:04,675 Speaker 1: of the other candidates was excoriating the Republicans and there 660 00:46:04,795 --> 00:46:07,755 Speaker 1: exploitation of terror and the al Qaeda attacks, and he 661 00:46:07,835 --> 00:46:10,995 Speaker 1: said of Giuliani quote, there's only three things he mentions 662 00:46:10,995 --> 00:46:13,475 Speaker 1: in a sentence, a noun, a verb, and nine to 663 00:46:13,475 --> 00:46:19,355 Speaker 1: eleven that also ran candidate was named Joe Biden, and 664 00:46:19,475 --> 00:46:22,435 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani's dislike of him turned to hatred at that 665 00:46:22,515 --> 00:46:25,155 Speaker 1: exact moment, which was also the exact moment at which 666 00:46:25,195 --> 00:46:29,515 Speaker 1: any hopes Giuliani had of being elected anything ever again vanished. 667 00:46:30,355 --> 00:46:35,115 Speaker 1: It also explains the entirety of Giuliani's behavior towards Biden afterwards, 668 00:46:35,195 --> 00:46:38,675 Speaker 1: and where Giuliani went when Biden stepped away from the 669 00:46:38,715 --> 00:46:42,995 Speaker 1: public stage. But anyway, it was clear to me in 670 00:46:43,035 --> 00:46:45,675 Speaker 1: September two thousand and one that sadly what we were 671 00:46:45,715 --> 00:46:48,955 Speaker 1: seeing at that time was a bad man having a 672 00:46:48,995 --> 00:46:53,075 Speaker 1: couple of good days before that month was out. His 673 00:46:53,195 --> 00:46:58,155 Speaker 1: response to the attack on democracy was to himself personally 674 00:46:58,235 --> 00:47:01,795 Speaker 1: and in his own way, also attacked democracy, to propose 675 00:47:01,835 --> 00:47:05,435 Speaker 1: that the November election to choose his success as mayor 676 00:47:05,475 --> 00:47:10,115 Speaker 1: of New York be postponed, or that he'd be kept 677 00:47:10,115 --> 00:47:13,995 Speaker 1: on as co mayor because Rudy Giuliani actually said he 678 00:47:14,115 --> 00:47:19,075 Speaker 1: was too invaluable to stop being mayor, that whoever was 679 00:47:19,115 --> 00:47:21,915 Speaker 1: elected by the people, well, maybe that should just wait. 680 00:47:21,955 --> 00:47:24,515 Speaker 1: But if it couldn't wait, maybe that should be like 681 00:47:24,595 --> 00:47:29,115 Speaker 1: a trainee mayor. While Rudy still ran the city till 682 00:47:29,155 --> 00:47:34,635 Speaker 1: further notice, there had always been more subtle hints that 683 00:47:34,715 --> 00:47:36,955 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani was never a good man, just a slightly 684 00:47:36,995 --> 00:47:40,955 Speaker 1: smarter one. The venomous Rudy, the scheming Rudy, the a 685 00:47:41,235 --> 00:47:46,035 Speaker 1: moral Rudy peaked out from time to time, usually in 686 00:47:46,075 --> 00:47:48,355 Speaker 1: the context of sports, which is where I met him. 687 00:47:48,755 --> 00:47:51,755 Speaker 1: You will remember he was a professional New York Yankees fan. 688 00:47:52,275 --> 00:47:55,955 Speaker 1: Always went to the games for free, mind you, dug 689 00:47:55,955 --> 00:47:59,835 Speaker 1: out seats for himself and his wife, for his other wife, 690 00:48:00,235 --> 00:48:03,635 Speaker 1: for his next wife, for the kids, for the friends. 691 00:48:05,115 --> 00:48:07,435 Speaker 1: When I still had friends at Yankee Stadium, they estimated 692 00:48:07,515 --> 00:48:10,155 Speaker 1: Rudy used to cost them thousands of dollars every time 693 00:48:10,195 --> 00:48:13,355 Speaker 1: he showed up. Also, he always left via the clubhouse 694 00:48:13,395 --> 00:48:14,995 Speaker 1: and got in the way of all the reporters and 695 00:48:15,075 --> 00:48:18,155 Speaker 1: the players. Always wore a Yankees cap, built himself as 696 00:48:18,275 --> 00:48:21,995 Speaker 1: quote the number one Yankee fan. And then when the 697 00:48:22,035 --> 00:48:24,515 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight Republican nomination was still up for 698 00:48:24,555 --> 00:48:26,955 Speaker 1: grabs and the Boston Red Sox were playing in the 699 00:48:26,995 --> 00:48:30,955 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven World series. Rudy Giuliani was campaigning 700 00:48:30,955 --> 00:48:34,195 Speaker 1: for president in New Hampshire Red Sox territory, and Giuliani 701 00:48:34,195 --> 00:48:37,555 Speaker 1: suddenly announced he was rooting for the Red Sox in 702 00:48:37,675 --> 00:48:42,235 Speaker 1: the World Series. This is like being a Trump fan 703 00:48:42,595 --> 00:48:46,915 Speaker 1: and rooting for democracy. You will note that one of 704 00:48:46,995 --> 00:48:51,835 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani's successors, distant successors, but successors nonetheless, as mayor 705 00:48:51,875 --> 00:48:54,955 Speaker 1: of New York, Zora and Mom Donnie, actually put out 706 00:48:54,955 --> 00:49:00,395 Speaker 1: a press release about Bronx bus lanes catered to service 707 00:49:00,635 --> 00:49:03,795 Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium and said, even the Mayor of New York 708 00:49:04,115 --> 00:49:09,835 Speaker 1: has to help help even Yankees fans. He didn't even 709 00:49:09,835 --> 00:49:12,395 Speaker 1: pander the Yankees fans. And here's Rudy Giuliani, who spent 710 00:49:12,435 --> 00:49:16,275 Speaker 1: a lifetime pandering the Yankees fans, pandering the Red Sox fans, 711 00:49:19,755 --> 00:49:22,795 Speaker 1: and that that moment. Two thousand and seven was a 712 00:49:22,875 --> 00:49:26,755 Speaker 1: decade after I found Rudy Giuliani out. I went back 713 00:49:26,795 --> 00:49:29,435 Speaker 1: with Rudy even longer than that. I think it's nineteen 714 00:49:29,515 --> 00:49:32,195 Speaker 1: ninety six. It might have been nineteen ninety five. I 715 00:49:32,355 --> 00:49:35,195 Speaker 1: was called at ESPN by the Deputy Mayor of New 716 00:49:35,275 --> 00:49:38,675 Speaker 1: York City, Fran Writer, and the staff of the Baseball 717 00:49:38,675 --> 00:49:40,315 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and they wanted me to come in 718 00:49:40,475 --> 00:49:44,115 Speaker 1: from ESPN headquarters in Bristol, Connecticut, literally to the steps 719 00:49:44,155 --> 00:49:47,355 Speaker 1: of city Hall to MC an event for what must 720 00:49:47,355 --> 00:49:52,115 Speaker 1: have been three dozen Baseball Hall of Fame members. As 721 00:49:52,155 --> 00:49:54,435 Speaker 1: I got there, and it was a beautiful spring morning, 722 00:49:54,675 --> 00:49:57,835 Speaker 1: the Deputy Mayor approached me, the mayor a few steps 723 00:49:57,875 --> 00:50:01,315 Speaker 1: behind her as she began to introduce. As she realized 724 00:50:01,675 --> 00:50:08,955 Speaker 1: Rudy had begun to wander off Rody, she bellowed she 725 00:50:09,075 --> 00:50:13,355 Speaker 1: had quite the voice. He wandered back towards us. This 726 00:50:13,515 --> 00:50:16,195 Speaker 1: is Keith Olberman from ESPN. He is going to be 727 00:50:16,235 --> 00:50:20,035 Speaker 1: the MC. You will have to introduce him. After you speak, 728 00:50:20,595 --> 00:50:24,675 Speaker 1: he will introduce the players. The mayor seemed to be 729 00:50:24,755 --> 00:50:28,115 Speaker 1: having trouble focusing on me. His head was turning from 730 00:50:28,155 --> 00:50:30,275 Speaker 1: side to side, and I thought of the old joke, 731 00:50:31,275 --> 00:50:33,995 Speaker 1: just keep your eyes on the Olberman in the middle, sir. 732 00:50:35,475 --> 00:50:41,035 Speaker 1: He extended a hand, missed mine, then recalibrated. As we 733 00:50:41,075 --> 00:50:44,795 Speaker 1: shook hands, he grunted something. The deputy mayor now roared 734 00:50:44,835 --> 00:50:48,435 Speaker 1: at him, Rudy, you have to introduce him. His name 735 00:50:48,595 --> 00:50:57,995 Speaker 1: is Keith Olberman from ESPN. He's the MC. He turned 736 00:50:57,995 --> 00:51:00,835 Speaker 1: and looked at her and made a grunting sound again. 737 00:51:02,995 --> 00:51:06,635 Speaker 1: Deputy Mayor Writer now screamed Juliani, repeat it to me. 738 00:51:08,355 --> 00:51:10,195 Speaker 1: He looked at me, then he looked back at her 739 00:51:10,355 --> 00:51:13,755 Speaker 1: and he said, his name is Keith Olderman from ESPN. 740 00:51:13,875 --> 00:51:19,035 Speaker 1: He's the MC. With annoyance. Fran Ryder said thank you. 741 00:51:20,115 --> 00:51:22,715 Speaker 1: It was also a little relief in her voice. Rudy 742 00:51:22,715 --> 00:51:28,875 Speaker 1: Giuliani smiled and wandered off again, like he just discovered electricity. 743 00:51:30,275 --> 00:51:31,715 Speaker 1: I took my seat in the front row of the 744 00:51:31,715 --> 00:51:34,315 Speaker 1: stage built atop the City Hall steps. The President of 745 00:51:34,315 --> 00:51:36,715 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame spoke first. The Mayor sat next 746 00:51:36,755 --> 00:51:39,355 Speaker 1: to me and Juliani at one point leaned in while 747 00:51:39,355 --> 00:51:40,875 Speaker 1: the head of the Hall of Fame was talking, and 748 00:51:40,915 --> 00:51:44,675 Speaker 1: he whispered to me, your name is Keith Olderman from ESPN. 749 00:51:44,835 --> 00:51:49,635 Speaker 1: You're the MC. I introduce you. I said something confirming that, 750 00:51:49,755 --> 00:51:53,275 Speaker 1: and he smiled broadly like a child who was about 751 00:51:53,315 --> 00:51:57,915 Speaker 1: to get some candy for adding tuplus two. The President 752 00:51:57,955 --> 00:52:00,595 Speaker 1: of the Hall of Fame wrapped up introduced Mayor Giuliani, 753 00:52:00,635 --> 00:52:03,395 Speaker 1: who bounced up onto the stage and thanked him and 754 00:52:03,475 --> 00:52:05,595 Speaker 1: got the name of the President the Hall of Fame wrong. 755 00:52:06,715 --> 00:52:08,675 Speaker 1: He then launched into a speech taking credit for the 756 00:52:08,675 --> 00:52:11,555 Speaker 1: great weather, for the great terrific early season performance of 757 00:52:11,555 --> 00:52:14,795 Speaker 1: the Yankees and the Mets and the Dodgers and the 758 00:52:14,835 --> 00:52:16,675 Speaker 1: Giants who had moved out of New York in nineteen 759 00:52:16,715 --> 00:52:19,275 Speaker 1: fifty seven. But if he'd been mayor in nineteen fifty seven, 760 00:52:19,395 --> 00:52:21,155 Speaker 1: then they wouldn't have moved out of New York, would 761 00:52:21,195 --> 00:52:23,355 Speaker 1: have the four teams it deserves. And look at all 762 00:52:23,355 --> 00:52:25,595 Speaker 1: these great players behind me, and let me now turn 763 00:52:25,635 --> 00:52:27,355 Speaker 1: it over to a good friend of mine and a 764 00:52:27,355 --> 00:52:31,795 Speaker 1: great baseball man. And he looked at me, and he 765 00:52:31,915 --> 00:52:36,835 Speaker 1: forgot my name, And finally he looked the other way 766 00:52:36,875 --> 00:52:39,155 Speaker 1: behind him, where the Deputy Mayor had her head in 767 00:52:39,235 --> 00:52:41,835 Speaker 1: her hands, on the other side of the podium, and 768 00:52:41,915 --> 00:52:45,075 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani said loudly, and it was picked up by 769 00:52:45,155 --> 00:52:49,875 Speaker 1: the microphone. Rudy Giuliani said, loudly, what's his name? Who 770 00:52:49,955 --> 00:52:54,915 Speaker 1: is he? As the crowd roared, and some of the 771 00:52:54,915 --> 00:52:57,315 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame players seated behind me gave me pats 772 00:52:57,315 --> 00:53:00,675 Speaker 1: of consolation on my shoulder. I seem to remember al 773 00:53:00,835 --> 00:53:03,355 Speaker 1: Caline in particular, getting a good laugh out of this 774 00:53:03,555 --> 00:53:06,555 Speaker 1: fran rider's scream. And this also was picked up by 775 00:53:06,555 --> 00:53:09,995 Speaker 1: the mike, Keith Olon ESPN, the NCA, you repeated it 776 00:53:09,995 --> 00:53:14,035 Speaker 1: to me. Giuliani turned back to the crowd as if 777 00:53:14,075 --> 00:53:15,755 Speaker 1: there had been no way they could have heard or 778 00:53:15,795 --> 00:53:18,315 Speaker 1: seen any of this, and he said, let me turn 779 00:53:18,315 --> 00:53:20,195 Speaker 1: it over to a good friend of mine and a 780 00:53:20,235 --> 00:53:31,115 Speaker 1: great baseball man, Keith Obelman, our NC from EPs PM. 781 00:53:35,275 --> 00:53:39,715 Speaker 1: I just sat there, more laughs and consolations from the 782 00:53:39,715 --> 00:53:42,315 Speaker 1: players behind me, and now I'm certain I could hear 783 00:53:42,355 --> 00:53:44,755 Speaker 1: the laugh of the Detroit Tigers great the lad al 784 00:53:45,115 --> 00:53:48,795 Speaker 1: Caline rising above the others. Al later came over to 785 00:53:48,835 --> 00:53:52,195 Speaker 1: commiserate with me, as I was sitting there in the 786 00:53:52,195 --> 00:53:56,875 Speaker 1: moment and thinking, should I say thanks, Mayor LaGuardia, And 787 00:53:56,915 --> 00:54:00,395 Speaker 1: then I concluded no, I was representing ESPN and the 788 00:54:00,435 --> 00:54:04,595 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. He said it again, Keith Oboleman for me. 789 00:54:06,995 --> 00:54:08,755 Speaker 1: I just got up and I told the crowd not 790 00:54:08,875 --> 00:54:11,235 Speaker 1: on the microphone, in case somebody was recording the microphone. 791 00:54:11,275 --> 00:54:12,715 Speaker 1: I just got up and told the crowd, sorry, I 792 00:54:12,755 --> 00:54:16,035 Speaker 1: wasn't sure he meant me. So, if you are saying 793 00:54:16,075 --> 00:54:20,115 Speaker 1: to yourself, what no earth happened to Rudy Giuliani with 794 00:54:20,275 --> 00:54:23,355 Speaker 1: that brown Schitz pouring down his face and the great 795 00:54:23,435 --> 00:54:26,795 Speaker 1: disappearance of the year twenty twenty six. I am saying 796 00:54:26,835 --> 00:54:30,755 Speaker 1: to you, he has been this crazy for thirty years. 797 00:54:31,555 --> 00:54:37,795 Speaker 1: You were just lucky enough to not have noticed. Damn it, 798 00:54:37,795 --> 00:54:40,955 Speaker 1: It's all true. Or my name isn't Keith o'doman our 799 00:54:41,195 --> 00:54:59,355 Speaker 1: NC from ESPM. I've done all the damage I can 800 00:54:59,395 --> 00:55:04,155 Speaker 1: do here. Thank you for listening. It'd be a really 801 00:55:04,195 --> 00:55:07,115 Speaker 1: bad thing if something really bad happened to Rudy and 802 00:55:07,155 --> 00:55:09,515 Speaker 1: we just didn't know it yet, and I've done this commentary. 803 00:55:11,035 --> 00:55:13,355 Speaker 1: I mean, it would be a really bad thing, and 804 00:55:13,395 --> 00:55:16,955 Speaker 1: then I get over it in ten to fifteen minutes. 805 00:55:18,035 --> 00:55:21,475 Speaker 1: Our musical directors have Countdowner, John Phillips Chanel on keyboards 806 00:55:21,475 --> 00:55:24,915 Speaker 1: and handling orchestration, and Brian Ray on guitars, bass and drums, 807 00:55:25,355 --> 00:55:27,475 Speaker 1: and they had nothing to do with that remark I 808 00:55:27,595 --> 00:55:31,155 Speaker 1: just made about Rudy. Their work is produced by Tko Brothers. 809 00:55:31,315 --> 00:55:34,395 Speaker 1: Nancy Fauss, the best baseball stadium organists ever, who also 810 00:55:34,395 --> 00:55:36,475 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with my remark about Rudy, is 811 00:55:36,515 --> 00:55:40,115 Speaker 1: responsible for the satirical and fifty musical comments. When we 812 00:55:40,115 --> 00:55:43,115 Speaker 1: play the sports music, it's the old Olderman Show theme 813 00:55:43,155 --> 00:55:46,435 Speaker 1: from ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis Curtisy of 814 00:55:46,675 --> 00:55:50,275 Speaker 1: ESPN Inc. The ESPN and Mitch Davis have nothing to 815 00:55:50,315 --> 00:55:53,395 Speaker 1: do with my remark about Rudy either. Other music was 816 00:55:53,475 --> 00:55:55,755 Speaker 1: arranged and performed by the group No Horn's allowed, and 817 00:55:55,795 --> 00:55:59,315 Speaker 1: my announcer today is my friend. John Dean also had 818 00:55:59,355 --> 00:56:03,035 Speaker 1: nothing to do with my remark Rudy, who may associate 819 00:56:03,355 --> 00:56:06,915 Speaker 1: himself with my remarks Early you're about Bill Maher. This 820 00:56:07,075 --> 00:56:11,035 Speaker 1: program was produced by Ted. Everything else was as always 821 00:56:11,315 --> 00:56:14,555 Speaker 1: my fault. That's countdown for today, Day four hundred and 822 00:56:14,555 --> 00:56:18,475 Speaker 1: thirty five of America held hostage again, just one twenty 823 00:56:18,515 --> 00:56:20,755 Speaker 1: eight days until the scheduled end of his lame duck 824 00:56:20,755 --> 00:56:24,995 Speaker 1: and lame brained term. Unless he's removed sooner by Epstein 825 00:56:25,915 --> 00:56:28,715 Speaker 1: and all those failures he says, he hangs around so 826 00:56:28,795 --> 00:56:32,475 Speaker 1: he can feel more successful. The next scheduled countdown is 827 00:56:32,515 --> 00:56:35,795 Speaker 1: Thursday bulletins. As the news merits until the next one, 828 00:56:35,795 --> 00:56:39,795 Speaker 1: I'm Keith Olberman, good Morning, good afternoon, good night, and 829 00:56:40,115 --> 00:57:07,355 Speaker 1: good luck. Countdown with Eith Alderman is a production of iHeartRadio. 830 00:57:07,635 --> 00:57:12,955 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 831 00:57:13,075 --> 00:57:15,035 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts,