1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast got stuck in traffic on 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: the way in This morning from the Chris west Link 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: podcast studio, It's Around the NFL Dan Jansas with Greg Rosenthal, 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: a hero who was stuck in traffic. So the Zummie 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: drop works sometimes I think some waltz just inside my 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: own brain, or he just like he's actually back there 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: live reading it. Maybe maybe this is all just a 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: what do they call it? A simulation in the end 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: um Also, Hey, Mark, what's up? What up? Beach? I 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: know you're under the weather. How are you feeling? This 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: is a water Gate level disaster? What are some symptoms 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: we're dealing with? Black coo does not come from me. 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if I buy that because you brought 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: it up. Are you gonna be able to do the 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: show with us today? I am attempting to. I cannot. 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: He can't. You can't miss the Thursday preview show. Though, Mark, 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: you're overrating my interest in in in the whole thing too. 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: How about this, Greg, how about this? Give us one 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: football take and then get back in bed. I think 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: that Mike Rabel is one of the most underrated coaches 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: in the entire league. Good take, especially in this time. 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: It's not yeah with the Titans at all. Literally, don't 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: care what your responses. Okay, wow, wow wow, later clowns 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: Wow Toffy. Mark's not with us today, but in a 25 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: way he always is. That that was rough. I mean 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: it was mean at the end, clowns, Well, he can 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: get me and sometimes as you know, as you know 28 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: all too well, Greggy, Uh, this is the week fourteen preview. 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: How about that we've already previewed the Thursday night football 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: matchup between the Raiders and Rams across the sidewalk. You 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: take in the family or anybody you're going to that game. 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: I am not going to the game now, no, okay uh, 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: And now we're gonna get through the rest of the week. 34 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if the Rams would have helped out by 35 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: giving my daughter a little more enjoyment watching football over 36 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: the a couple of months, we might be there. I 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: asked her what she wanted for Christmas. She said multiple times, 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: a Rams win. It means that much to her. So okay, 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: So how old is your daughter? Now? Okay? How old 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: am I? I think you know, forty two years old? Uh, 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: you're eleven year old? Daughters team won the Super Bowl 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: I get it. I get it, but it makes you 43 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: a little less. Just let her know that it's not easy. 44 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: It's not You can't assume success, not at all. She 45 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: stays there to the very end of the game. She 46 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: was so hopeful and crushed last week. But I think 47 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: seeing a loss in person when I expect it to 48 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: be lost, I hear that. I hear that. Anyway. So 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: there's thirty two teams in the league, of course, six teams, 50 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: Greggy on by that's uh six teams, you know, and 51 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: did that by two games. We already we already did 52 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: the Thursday night previous or twelve games to talk about 53 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: our last buys of the season. I'm gonna miss him, 54 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna miss them. You know, I know 55 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: this schedulemakers don't keep fantasy people in mind. But hitting 56 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: people with a six bye week in the final week 57 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: of the fantasy regular season, I know you know what 58 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking about out there. Um, all right, let's get 59 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: into We're also gonna have a special guest because you 60 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: just heard from Mark under the weather. Uh Neil Reynolds 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: are good friend from sky Sports over in the UK, 62 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: will join us and draft on Mark's beh happy let's 63 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: start as we always do with the prime time games, 64 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: and yes, another flexed game. I believe this is flexed correct. 65 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: Elphins at Chargers once again from across the sidewalk. They 66 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: get a lot of use out of that facility. Stand 67 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: Cronky raking it in. Let's talk about um an important game, 68 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: I think for ball teams, Greggy, let's do it this 69 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: way because the Dolphins licking their wounds a little bit pride, 70 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: maybe a little hurt. After you go to San Francisco 71 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: and you get humbled a little bit, both your offense, 72 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: which had been unstoppable and the fact that you know 73 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: the Mr. Irrelevant was the other team's quarterback for the 74 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: last three quarters of the game. You still couldn't find 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: a way. You want to prove people out there that 76 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: you are legit and a contender. And the Chargers, as 77 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: beat up as they are, they're still in the playoff 78 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: mix and they kind of have to have it. They do. 79 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: I think this is one of the biggest games of 80 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley's career as a head coach. There's differing views 81 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: about his future. Some people, I think think he's gonna 82 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: be safe regardless, but he's got the Dolphins this week. 83 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna win this game. They've got 84 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: the Titans next week. I don't know if they can 85 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 1: beat anyone that's halfway decent right now. They're not good 86 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: at all the ways that you want to be good 87 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: playing football when you're like, think about all right, we 88 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: want to be a tough physical team. Every coach says 89 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: we want to be a tough physical team. They can't 90 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: run the ball, they can't stop the run, they can't 91 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: rush the passer. I wouldn't say kill. Khalil Mack has 92 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: been a letdown, but you can you need more than 93 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, and he hasn't been an explosive pass rusher 94 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: most of the season. With Joey Boson out there, and 95 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: they can't protect their quarterback, that's a lot of things 96 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: you can't do well. And it's one of the reasons 97 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: why Herbert fans like myself have been you know, in 98 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: defense mode. Uh, because I really do feel like this 99 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: is a bad football team being propped up by a 100 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: top ten quarterback when not much else right now. If 101 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: they get Mike Williams back for this game, and it 102 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: sounds like he's trending back that that will help out 103 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: the offense a lot. Yeah, and uh, I think what 104 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: the Chargers hoped was that Khalil Mack was going to 105 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 1: be their version of Von Miller or what von Miller 106 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: was until Thanksgiving in Buffalo Joey Bosa. That was just 107 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: a killer injury for them because he is an elite 108 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: uh pass rugger edge rusher. That would have changed the things. 109 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: And he still has no timetable. Mike Williams will be back, 110 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: but again, last time he came back in prime time. 111 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: All these teams play the same six teams playing Brian time. 112 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: Last time he played was in prime time and he 113 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: re hurt, reinjured his ankle. And I think the offensive 114 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: line you can't ignore that, I mean, uh, not playing 115 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: with You played without your starting center, left tackle, and 116 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: right tackle last week, and you saw it, and it 117 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: affects everything, especially when you take out Mike Williams as well. 118 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: So you can't bomb away and even if you even 119 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: if you wanted to, you're not getting enough time to 120 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: make it happen. And it's all kind of a a 121 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: vicious stew for the quarterback. Yeah. Corey Lindsley, their center, 122 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: who to me has been a bit of a Jenga 123 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: piece for them all year. If you look at the 124 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: numbers with him on the field and off was back 125 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: at practice, which indicates he's probably gonna progress through the 126 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: concussion protocol. Their tackle situation is still a problem. I 127 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: think the Dolphins defense had been trending better until a 128 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: week ago. Jalen Phillips is having a really nice season 129 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: for them as a second year passenger. I also noticed 130 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: by the way that he was like the is it 131 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: the ed Block Courage Award nominee? That what it's called 132 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: from his team, and he's a second year player. That's 133 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: unheard of. I looked up and down list. He's the 134 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: youngest player in the league to get that. To shout 135 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: out to Jalen Phillips, but he's really been playing well overall. 136 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: And then you flip it to their offense, and I 137 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: think that was just a blip on the radar. I 138 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: think they're gonna smoke this Chargers team. I think the 139 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: put thirty plus points on the board. I will be 140 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: curious to see. And this is a game where I 141 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: think they miss having j C. Jackson. I know j C. 142 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: Jackson started out slow, but I think the idea of 143 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: having J. C. Jackson is you can mix up what 144 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: you do defensively a little more and play play more 145 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: pressed man coverage. The way that the forty Niners played 146 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, I thought was telling Kyle Sanny and knows 147 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel and vice versa. They had their cornerbacks up 148 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage, trying to press them, just 149 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: trying to mess up the timing just a little bit. 150 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: And it seemed like it did mess up the timing 151 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: just a little bit, which which spooked to a here's 152 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: some data points, and I'm kind of with you. I 153 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: think maybe obviously disappointing from Miami's offense, but there were 154 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: still receivers running around wide opening that game, and two 155 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: have just had a bad game. So I don't think 156 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: you could take one off game for the quarterback and 157 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: say that this isn't gonna work. I'd love to, you know, 158 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: I'd love to, Greggy, but I can't. And then what 159 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: you said about the Chargers and their defense being what 160 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: it is right now, I mean they're averaging nearly twenty 161 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: six points allowed per game right now, that's thirty in 162 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: the league. And the Dolphins this offense, we know what 163 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: they do to defenses that aren't ready. In fact, according 164 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: to our research department, against bottom ten defenses this year, 165 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: which Los Angeles is they're four and four, four and 166 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: oh and averaging nearly thirty four points a game and 167 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: over four d and twenty yards Ken justin Herbert Um 168 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: some on somewhat on an island here, keep up with 169 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: this Miami offense. That's what you want to see. We 170 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: know what we want to hear Greg, we want to shootout, 171 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: but is going to really need to bring it on 172 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: offense to keep up with this team. Like one of 173 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: the great playoff games of all time that we were 174 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: in around four but everyone tells us and if you 175 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: look at the score Kellen Winslow against the Dolphins and 176 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: that was similar to this. I think it'll be fun. 177 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: But if I could lock two games, I would lock 178 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: this one up to But I'm not because I like 179 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: one another one even a little better. But I feel 180 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: great about the Dolphins here. Okay, great, let's hear from 181 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel because that's always fun. Dolphins head coach answer question. 182 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: He does have an arm. I think I believe too 183 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: of him. Um, and it is strong. I'm not sure 184 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: how much. He can curl, but he can throw the 185 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: ball far. Very good player, challenging player that um our 186 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: guys will be up for and exensive tests. Mike's McDaniel 187 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert. It's always that little extra, little bitty 188 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: thing that he adds Justin Herbert's two arms. Actually, very 189 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: matter of factly, there are parallels between Rosenthal and McDaniel. 190 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: Let's just say what it is. I could see you 191 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: giving a similar answer there. I love Mike McDaniel. I 192 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: didn't like though that you um, I think he uh, 193 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: he's a unique personality, but I think you you have 194 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: privately questioned you maybe just like he's he almost seems 195 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: like he's from another planet. I think he connects with 196 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: the players pretty well. I think he is who he 197 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: is and he doesn't try to be anything else. And 198 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: I don't think he's like inhuman or lacks like understanding 199 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: of emotions. I think that I think everything you just 200 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: said about Mike McDaniel, I could I could say about 201 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: you as well. And I mean I don't mean that 202 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: as an insult. I don't think he's an alien. I 203 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: just think he's a little bit um coming from a 204 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: different angle and and the way he puts things. Uh, 205 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: I just find him humorous. And as I said, I'm 206 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: no Dolphins fan, but I think it's good that a 207 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: guy like Mike McDaniel could be successful in our league, 208 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: so we could have some other archaeotypes for what a 209 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: leader of a team can be. They gotta win this 210 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: game to set up the Bills Dolphins game being as 211 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: big as possible next week. Let's move to the other Oh, 212 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: I didn't even think of that too. You got two 213 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: a Hive and Herbert. That's the That's the only angle 214 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: that anyone is taking. Of course, it seemed like them 215 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: Dolphins a year ago had made a catastrophic franchise changing 216 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: mistake by taking to a a pick before Justin Herbert. 217 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: Now it looks better, but let's not get crazy. You'd 218 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: still rather have Justin her Do you know? I like 219 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: Herbert too, but I'm not a member of the Herbert 220 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: Defense Fund like you and some other people. Um, do 221 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: you guys have if this ends poorly on on Sunday 222 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: night and he plays poorly? Do you guys have an 223 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: emergency meeting before the Monday morning twitter takes? Or how 224 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: do you play this? The the playbook in terms of 225 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: how we defend Justin Herbert as well established DF We 226 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: understand the two systems that they're in right now. And uh, 227 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: if Justin Herbert was on the Miami Dolphins, he'd be 228 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: putting up m v P stats too. That is, that's 229 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: a pretty good defense. It's hard to argue against that. 230 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: But how about Herbert balls out? Yeah, I want to 231 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: see that. I need Monday night football. No, this is wrong. 232 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: The Patriots couldn't be in prime time again. Well, you 233 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: know what they could be would be in prime time 234 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: four straight weeks, Dan, but they were flexed out of 235 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: week fifteen. So just be thankful that we're getting the 236 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: Giants and Commandos tie rematch in week fifteen because that 237 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: would have been Patriots Raiders. Yeah, they're they're in prime time. 238 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: I understand New England has a big fan basicis of 239 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: all the winning, But what on Park Avenue were they 240 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: aware the Tom Brady was no longer on the team 241 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: when they made the schedule this season. I've got a 242 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: theory about this. You want to hear yes, I want 243 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: to hear it. It's driving me nuts. It's not a 244 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: fun team, by the way. That's the other Okay, And 245 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: I didn't really understand this as much before, but prime 246 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: time game is a big deal to owners, you know, 247 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: and I think there was probably some trepidation even of 248 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: taking this week the Chiefs and Broncos out of prime 249 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: time just because it's like the Walton's they just joined 250 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: the family that was gonna be a big spot, and 251 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: we're kicking the Waltons out of prime time. I think 252 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: the Robert Kraft juice uh is a factor here. And 253 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: you know, another team that plays in the a f 254 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: C East that wears green, who everyone will agree is 255 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: a very fun team to watch this year, we're still 256 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: waiting for a prime time an owner without a lot 257 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: of juice. I've got I gotta say ten am Pacific time, 258 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: Jets as usual. All right, let's get into this game. 259 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: The Patriots needed they need it in the worst way. 260 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: They're six and six, and you know, if not for 261 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson, their season might be over. Let's let's face it. 262 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: But they did take care of the Jets those two 263 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: out of three weeks or whatever it was, and and 264 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: got to the six wins, but back to back losses 265 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: to Minnesota, which they played well but not good enough. 266 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say they played well, but they played competitively. 267 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: Uh and then the Buffalo game in prime time last 268 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: week didn't go the way they wanted it to. But 269 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: Arizona this week, Vegas next week are the Patriots. Let's 270 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: start here a little more above the treetouse for Greggy 271 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: the the former Patriots fan. Patriots fan, is their season 272 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: come down to they gotta win these two road games 273 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: because at best their final three games, which include the 274 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: Dolphins and Bill Cincinnati Miami a Buffaloto clothes. I mean, 275 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: you're certainly not sweeping those games. If you won one 276 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: one of those three games, I would take it right now. 277 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: So for any chance to make the playoffs and get 278 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: to nine wins, you gotta win these next two, and 279 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: you probably gotta get to ten wins. But I'm gonna 280 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: keep it above the tree tops Dan, because this game, 281 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: it's two mediocre teams in my mind, um who probably 282 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: aren't going anywhere. Patriots have a chance. I noticed when 283 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: Kirk herb Street talked about Mac Jones in that Thursday 284 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: night game that he specifically said Mac is gaining confidence 285 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: in the people around him. I thought that that's interesting. 286 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: Kirk has a relationship with Mac Jones back to Alabama 287 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: probably had that little meeting and stuff, and it just 288 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: goes along with this whole thing that Mac Jones hasn't 289 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: been happy with the coaching staff the whole time. And 290 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: that's what I took out of that. The gaining confidence 291 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: was in the coaching staff coming off a nice game 292 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: in Minnesota and then everything fell apart there. That's number one, 293 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: number two, and this is juicy. This isn't breaking news, 294 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: but I haven't seen it talked about anywhere else. I'm 295 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: a I'm a subscriber to the Boston Sports Journal. It 296 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: was a gift from our friend Mike Burkewitz. Way too 297 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: many details. Take this out of the network showing. Greg 298 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: Bard writes it great writer in in the Q and 299 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: A with the with the subscribers this week, which I 300 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: checked out randomly. I a lot of questions about Bill 301 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: Belichick's future. Greg Bard, who's been there a long time 302 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: and knows a lot, thinks that Bill Belichick's job status 303 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: is very much up in the air if Bill Belichick 304 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: is not willing to have a plan for how to 305 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: fix what is going on here, and what's going on 306 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: here is a the offensive staff be the relative understaffing 307 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: of the coaching staff in general, and then see the 308 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: fact that Bill Belichick's all but running the front office 309 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: all by himself, that he's basically coaching the offense, the defense, 310 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: and the special teams now because anytime something wrong happens, 311 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: he jumps into that side. And uh, and he's doing 312 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: the entire front office. And that if Bill, for whatever 313 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: reason pushed back and didn't want to start populating these positions, 314 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: that this could be Bill Belichick's last season, Greg, But 315 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: I hasn't written this. An article was in a Q 316 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: and A. But I'm like, well, like you often say, Greg, 317 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: when you come at someone for throwing something out there 318 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: in a mail bag as opposed to reporting it with 319 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: their chest and all that stuff. I don't want to 320 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: make too much of it, but it does logically makes 321 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: He's not saying out of the blue. Either's not getting fired. 322 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: But it could be a situation where Craft, another powerful 323 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: guy with you know, a prideful man that has a 324 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: vision for the organization, might give him an ultimatum and 325 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: then you know, there are a lot of egos that 326 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: here and and maybe that's how it ends. Um. Yes, 327 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: and I'll even I'll say, better win this game by 328 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: the way, I think this game is a little dangerous. 329 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: I think it's dangerous. Well, let's stay above the tree 330 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: tops just a little bit longer, just because. Um. Yeah, 331 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: I think that Belichick did kind of foul up. And 332 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: I was defending him in the beginning of the season 333 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: and through the summer, like, oh, they'll figure it out. 334 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: They always figure it out. But I agree, like you're 335 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: seeing the frustration. You saw Mac Jones picked up by 336 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: the cameras on Amazon UM saying, you know, throw the 337 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: ball downfield. The short game doesn't work. Uh, there's obviously 338 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: frustration there. And then Belichick himself was doing his UM. 339 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: He does a weekly radio show up there in New England, 340 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: and I thought this was pretty interesting what he had 341 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: to say when asked about the offense and what changes 342 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: they can make to kind of get this thing going. Yeah, 343 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: I think we need to do what we're doing better. UM. 344 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't think at this point making a lot of 345 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: traumatic changes. Is it's too hard to do that we 346 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: need we're we can just do consistently what we were doing. Well, 347 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: I think we'll be all right. I think that great 348 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: with with Belichick is as close to you'll get as 349 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: a public admission that he kind of messed this up 350 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: a little bit and it's too late to change things, 351 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: and now they just got to find it a way 352 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: to make it work. Um as it is, and maybe 353 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: that's not gonna be good enough. And you're right, as 354 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: we turned like kind of looking at this game specifically, 355 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: it should be a winnable game against the Cardinals. Um, 356 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: but do I trust this New England team to go 357 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: on the road and win in prime time? I do own. 358 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: I just don't think they're very good. I agree this 359 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: is a an Arizona offensive line that you would think 360 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: the Patriots defense was scheme up pressures against and confused 361 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: and do enough to win the game. I do think 362 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: they'll win, but they've struggled with mobile quarterbacks. Kyler looked 363 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: pretty good coming off as injury. Ran for fifty six 364 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: yards in that game back where they really outplayed the Chargers, 365 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: and it was the first time we've seen Marquise Hollywood Brown, 366 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, and Rhonday Moore all healthy and kind of 367 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: getting things done. And I just don't see a very 368 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: athletic Patriots defense. So I could see it. I could 369 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: see the Patriots losing this game. I I expect it 370 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: will come down to the end. That pass rush is 371 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: gonna be important for the Patriots too, led by Matthew Judeon, 372 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: because Kyler Murray is one of the worst quarterbacks in 373 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: the league under pressure. In fact, according to Next Gen Stats, 374 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: his completion percentage is that's twenty seventh in the league, 375 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: dead last uh in um passing touchdowns. He has not 376 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: throwing a touchdown under pressure this year, according to Next 377 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: Gen Stats, is passer rating twelve point eight. So if 378 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: you get after him, he's throwing the ball for grabs. 379 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: He's going down, he's starting to sulk, and and this 380 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: this negativity machine of the Cardinals starts firing up. All right, 381 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: check out that Monday Night football recap. It'll be a banger. 382 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Who's who are you gonna get? I think 383 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: we've got Nate Tys this week, a Tye bomb. All right, 384 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: let's let's take a break and then we will begin 385 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: our draft with Neil Reynolds. Welcome back. We have a guest, Greggy. 386 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: He is the anchor of Sky Sports NFL and our 387 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: friend Neil Reynolds. Welcome buddy. Thank you very much. Grand 388 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: music for it was, but it's like something regal for 389 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: our Englishmen are friend. Absolutely, it's like anything, You're like 390 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: stabilizing the rest of the coverage, not dragging it to 391 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: the bottom of the sea. I just and just and 392 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: just so I'm clear in terms of rivalries here, Neil 393 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: sky Sports, Greggy does the Channel five thing over there 394 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: in the so you guys are kind of enemies because 395 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: we don't we don't do a studio on Sky Sports 396 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: at that time of night. So I'm fast asleep enjoying 397 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: my beauty sleep while Gregg's still feel it feels like 398 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: a potentially dangerous I see what you're trying to do. 399 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: But if you want to be entertain yeah, check us 400 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: out on Channel Yeah. That's a whole three am. Neil. 401 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: We need you, buddy, We need your help. I don't 402 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: know if you heard Mark at the top of the show, 403 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: but he's just not um up to doing the Thursday 404 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: program beyond that cameo. So now that we start the 405 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: portion of the preview show that has a draft, I 406 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: need you to step in for Mark Sessler and make 407 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: some picks. And I was thinking about that when you 408 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: messaged me on the way, and I was like, what 409 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: an honor. First of all, it should be an honor, right, 410 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: I think it's stepping in and drafting for Mark. I 411 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: listened to the podcast all the time. I love the 412 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: the preview show. I actually listened to it when I'm 413 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: driving to Sky Sports to do our Sunday show because 414 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: it's like a ninety minute drive and parafit's perfect. But 415 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: part of me just wants to pick really bad games, 416 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: but he kind of does it. Please it'll It'll not 417 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: only make this show better, It'll make the rest of 418 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: the shows of the week better, make Sunday better. Let's 419 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: do it, all right, So let's get into the draft. 420 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: And yes it is Greg Rosenthal with the first overall pick. 421 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: We only have ten games on the slate here with 422 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: all the buys, so go get it, Greggy. Okay, some 423 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: are going to be surprised by this pick, but I 424 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: don't care. Vikings Lions is the game I want to 425 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: watch this week. The team of a t L again 426 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: behind the team of a t L. It's a very 427 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: special honor to watch them, and I know it's not 428 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: going to be there at pick uh six, and I'm 429 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: invest very special? Is it? Is it? Mad um to 430 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: you guys that the people in the desert have the 431 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: Detroit Lines is the favorite in this game. I guess 432 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: it's just recency biased, maybe the fact that people are buying. 433 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: People are thinking, well, the Vikings had all those one 434 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: score games last year and lost them this year, their 435 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: nine and O in them. I don't think there's a 436 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: trust in the Vikings yet, but people trust in the Lines. 437 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: I think the answer is yes. You know what, it 438 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: started as the Vikings being about a one point favorite 439 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: DAN right after the Sunday Games, and so many fans 440 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: and presumably betters have gone for the Lions that it's 441 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: flipped around and people think like, oh, it's recently bias 442 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: this year that No, they're about the numbers and the 443 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: numbers if you get the sharps are and the Sharps are, 444 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: but also the people setting the lines, expected points added 445 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 1: on offense defense, yards per play offense defense. If you 446 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: look at the Lions, since thereby there's no question that 447 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: they're performing at a higher level than the Vikings, that 448 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: they have a top ten defense, since thereby, in terms 449 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: of d v o A, that seems a little bit much. 450 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: But a top six or seven offense, since thereby that 451 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a bit much. That seems very repeatable, 452 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: and I like the match above. That offense versus Minnesota 453 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: this week. It's incredible. With Detroit, Lions have scored thirty 454 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: points or more in half their games. I'm still having 455 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: nightmares about watching the lines on Thanksgiving last year and 456 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: Jared Goff through like thirty five swing passes out of 457 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: the bankfield. They transformed themselves. They are fun. They blew 458 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: out the Giants, and they blew out the Jaguars. Show 459 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: me the Vikings blowouts that they've had doesn't happen. They 460 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: haven't had one. They've been involved with one, and it 461 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: was when the Eagles blew them out. But yeah, I thought, 462 00:23:54,760 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: watching Detroit specifically in week thirteen, how how anable it felt. 463 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: Um this is. This is no smoke in mirrors. With 464 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift healthy, with the monro St Brown as a 465 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: true number one ride receiver, with this offensive line's ability 466 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: to protect Golf and let him be the best version 467 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: of himself, it's all real. So I think they're going 468 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: to continue to score points here. And I want to 469 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: hear from Dan Campbell because we love to hear from 470 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. They played the Vikings once back in Week three. 471 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: It was one of those narrow losses for the Lions 472 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: and narrow wins for the Vikings, and and if you 473 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: hear this, you will know that Campbell is pushing those 474 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: motivational buttons behind the scenes this week. I mean, yeah, look, 475 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: it burns me, you know, of course it burns me. 476 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that'll be there till the day I die. 477 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: That's still gonna go away. It does. But but I 478 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: also know I can't waller in that, and uh, let 479 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: that pull me down. I mean, it is what it is, 480 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: and it happened for a reason. And honestly, I think 481 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: the US losing uh you know, five in a row 482 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: is why we're where we're at right now. So that's 483 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: kind of how I look at it. Maybe we need 484 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: this to happen to get to where we're at right 485 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: now at this point. And if you don't recall, that 486 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: was a game the Lions were ahead fourteen entering the 487 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: fourth quarter and kJ Osborne had a game winning twenty 488 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: yard touchdown in the final minute or rip your heart 489 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: out loss. So you know the Lions want to make 490 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: things right after something like that. Yeah, they they certainly do. 491 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: They play really hard for Dan Campbell. We all know that, right, 492 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: But I think why this game is so fascinating is 493 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: because of the world the Vikings living. This will probably 494 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: go down to the wire as well. Every one of 495 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: their games has just been incredible. They start fast, they 496 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: forget themselves, they make a play at the end, whether 497 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: it be one on offense like a k J Osborne 498 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: or Can buying them interception. There's always something that the 499 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: Vikings seem to find. And even with Kirk Cousins not 500 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: having the best of seasons, you know he's kind of 501 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: has moments. I suppose this game's these games are about moments, 502 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: but um, it's incredible. His year is weird. A lot 503 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: of numbers aren't good, and yet the team obviously is 504 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: doing well. And when you watch, if you're watching the 505 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: team like how they're winning these games, he's stepping up 506 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: and making big plays in the red zone. But it's 507 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: those kind of in between type plays that he struggled with. 508 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: And we saw it again against the Jets last week 509 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: Greg where he missed so many throws, left a lot 510 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: of yards on the field, and yet their success in 511 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: the red zone allowed them to escape with that win. Right, 512 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: I don't see a team getting better. I think a 513 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: secondary in Minnesota is vulnerable. We'll see if Cam Danzler 514 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: returns this week, but they had a player, uh Kaylee 515 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: Evans might be messing up. The first name there, Duke Shelley, 516 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: Pat Peterson, you can pick on this secondary. And Ben Johnson, 517 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator in Detroit, comes up with a great 518 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: weekly game plan. And I think they're gonna go pass heavy, 519 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: just like the Jets do because they see holes in 520 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: that zone coverage and I think Jared Goff is gonna 521 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: be able to exploit those holes. And yeah, in theory, 522 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: it's a big game for the Vikings, like they're playing 523 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: for one sea blah blah. It's the biggest game in 524 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions five years, say the Jim Cardwell year 525 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: where they were above five founder and they were competing 526 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: for a playoff spots. You can't forget that. But since 527 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: then they haven't competed for anything. They win this game 528 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: and then they have a game next week against the Jets, 529 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: and it's on like you are in the playoff race 530 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: if you win this game. That's why it's fascinating, isn't it. 531 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 1: And I love to look at the stories as they 532 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: unfold and how we may be thought of teams and 533 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: players in the summer and it's completely different. But we 534 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought Jamal Williams would be scoring fourteen Russian touchdowns. 535 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: We wouldn't have thought Detroit would put up this many points. 536 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: We maybe thought the Vikings would be in the close games. 537 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: They got on the wrong end of all of those 538 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: last year. So it's just fascinating that the Lions have 539 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: become who they are and they are in the race, 540 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: the genuinely in the race, but they were happy to win. 541 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: This happen where they're in a lot of trouble. The 542 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: regression monster, yes, yes, yes, getting better. You're right, Dan, 543 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: the regression monster is going to come for the Vikings 544 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: at any point. They they rank outside the top ten 545 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: and scoring offense, scoring defense, total offense, and total defense. 546 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: Every every and then you pop the hood for the 547 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: analytics and it's more of the same. If this game 548 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: is a blowout on Sunday, it won't because the Vikings 549 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: blow out a team. No, No, I think it's let's 550 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: got a team of a t L. I think it's 551 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: I think it's again. It goes back to why I 552 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: think lots of players tell me lots of coaches tell 553 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: me games are decided. And it's a bit of a cliche, 554 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: but games are decided in five six moments in a game. 555 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: The Vikings are just winning all those moments and depend 556 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter which side of that Week three game 557 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: ruined everything for the flipped bodies and now they're going 558 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: to flip them back. Then he will never get over 559 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: the Week three game. Neil, you are up in the 560 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler slot. Okay, So can I give him the 561 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: Patriots and Cardinals? No, you can't. Board of the board. 562 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Jags and Titans. I'm looking at 563 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Problem. No. I know Mark likes to 564 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 1: listening to the podcast Mark Lights an afternoon game, right, 565 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: he likes a late afternoon game. So I'm going to 566 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: go the Bucks at the Haughty Niners, And I think 567 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: this is flascinating for a number of reasons. We flashed 568 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: up a lot of graphics on sky Sports last week 569 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: about the Miami Dolphins and the potency of their attack 570 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: and how they were going to go up against San 571 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: Francisco's defense, and it didn't matter. They still lost that game. 572 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: If you look at the Bucks on defense, on offense, 573 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: they're one of the worst offenses in the NFL. But 574 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: they've got Tom Brady, which always is a factor. You know, 575 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was not good on Monday Night, and then 576 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: he came alive against the Saints late. He wasn't good 577 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: against the Rams, he came alive late and delivered the 578 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: touchdown wins. So you never want to write off Tom 579 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: Brady and the Bucks, and so that they're in, they're 580 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: interesting to me and I think this game shapes how 581 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: far can San Francisco go. How do you play around 582 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: seventh round draft picking brock Purdy because you have to 583 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: play around the seventh round draft pick because there's a 584 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: reason they were taking in the seventh round. You know, 585 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: it was interesting though it didn't feel like they were 586 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: playing around him last week. They were very pass heavy. 587 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: How many times did he throw in game? Thirty seven times? 588 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: If he didn't play the first series, I think they 589 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: might be pass heavy again because that's kind of how 590 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: you approached the Buccaneers the running backs, wasn't it. That 591 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: was full turn policies to the running backs. And now 592 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: you got Devin White and that's that's what Jimmy Garoppolo 593 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: does too. There is quick passes. I think it's gonna 594 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: be tough to run against the Buccaneers. The forty Niners 595 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: haven't really fixed their running game with Christian McCaffrey. It's 596 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: been okay, but it hasn't been as good as, for instance, 597 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell and the running game was consistently a year ago. 598 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: And the Bucks defense is good. This is probably gonna 599 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: be a low scoring game. I think you are gonna 600 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: make Mark happy, though, because if ever there's a brock 601 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 1: Purty guy, it's Mark Selin, Like he's gonna be all 602 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: about the brock Purtty experience. And you know, a low 603 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: scoring game, maybe less stoppages, maybe the clock of the 604 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: time of the game. This feels like a much fest today. 605 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: That that part. That part, yeah, I think the issue 606 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: this is how you diagnosed this game. Yes, the forty 607 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: Niners are not as good as they were last week 608 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: because the quarterback is not as good unless we have 609 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: some type of magical story developing here. But let's see. 610 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: And that's why it's good for Purdy and the Niners, 611 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: uh that they have a runway here before January to 612 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: see if they can get this thing off the ground. 613 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, there was that report that came 614 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: out about maybe Jimmy g can return because he avoided 615 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: that dreaded Harlot Liz frank Um. I think it was 616 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: clarified a bit by Kyle Shanahan after the fact. That 617 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: would be a huge surprise, Um paraphrasing here or maybe 618 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: putting word in his mouth if we see Garoppolo again. 619 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: So really, this is Purdy's team here. They had a 620 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: chance to make a claim on Baker. They chose not to. 621 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: So here we go now, And my question to you guys, 622 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: as we saw what happened with Tampa and I on 623 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: Monday night, and I think we all kind of enjoyed 624 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: it because it was who knows what happens with Tom 625 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: Brady going forward? If this team gets its stuff together, 626 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: does he play next year? Even maybe that was the 627 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: less special Brady moment that we collectively got to enjoy. 628 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna kind of detach a little from 629 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: the nostalgia of it all. How many times have you 630 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: said that, I know, but you know, he is a 631 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: little different. He still missed a lot of throws, a 632 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: lot of deep throws, especially in that game. They scored 633 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: two touchdowns in their final two possessions. I just don't 634 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: see where the points are for the Bucks in this game. 635 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,239 Speaker 1: This feels like a ten point week for them. It's 636 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: just hard work, isn't it. And it's only a little 637 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: bit of late magic. I mean, that couldn't have been 638 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: a more depressing watch if you're a Bucks fan for 639 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: the first fifty five minutes of that game against the Saints, 640 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: and so when Brady is able to deliver at the end, 641 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: we forget about it. We just think, oh, what a 642 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: great moment it will. Don't forget about it. I feel 643 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: traumatized that, you know, we're we're there on Channel five 644 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: trying to talk about commercial. It's like more it's there 645 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: to say, hey, can you start throwing the Mike Evans please? 646 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: That was like we can think of to say can 647 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: you do some hurry up a little bit? Because whenever 648 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: they go into a hurry up, Tom Brady takes over 649 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: and it's like he's twenty five again because he's calling 650 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: all the place like can we do a little more 651 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: hurry up? I do like what I see at a 652 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: Rashad White like there should be answers, but I am 653 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: losing hope. I get mystified when Brady makes those bad 654 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: throws because you know, I mean, it's always a treat 655 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: to watch Tom Brady, you know, even now when he's 656 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: forty five and at the end of his career. You know, 657 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: I was at that game in Munich in Germany and 658 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: you're watch him warm up and he still throws such 659 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: a nice pass and he had a really good games accuracy. 660 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: I think is where you're seeing the age. Yeah, a 661 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: little bit disappointing. That can throw a few names out 662 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: there for the forty nine Jeff Hostetler, Kurt Warner. Nick 663 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: Fall was two thousand seventeen. I can't give up on 664 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: it yet. Falls is a good one because podcast we 665 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: had a huge argument whether the Eagles are worth even 666 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: talking about anymore because they have Nick Falls in terms 667 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: of could they win a playoff game or two? Remember 668 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: and remember that, yes, strange things happen, but you you 669 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: named three instances. You know what five years of football? 670 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: If there is a Channel five Sky Sports alley fight 671 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: like Anchorman style, what is your weapon of choice? And 672 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: it can't just be a gun? Uh? Start with you, Greg, 673 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: your weapon of choice, I mean my weapon of choices. 674 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: Maurice Jones, Drew, I'm just gonna put put him in 675 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: front of me, and and see what happens. Neil, you 676 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: look like a morning star guy. Yeah, I'm I'm actually 677 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: gonna I'm just gonna throw Rob Ryan at you. If 678 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: you're like I can outrun them off, you're gonna have 679 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: a healthy see how you deal with them if there's 680 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: an alley fight running away, that is an act of 681 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: a coward, at least like some Floyd Mayweather stuff where 682 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: I just you know, all right, let's move to the third. 683 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: By the way, that game to me has nine or 684 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: sixteen bucks ten written. All totally agree, That's where I'm going. 685 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: Anybody think the uh that night down to the score total? 686 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: All right, great, I feel good about that. All right. 687 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: Third over, I'll pick the ZEUSA Jets at Bills. Here 688 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: we go, Here we go. Very frustrating from the Jets side, 689 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: obviously in Minneapolis that they failed five out of six 690 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: times in the red zone. But you know what, Neil, 691 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: you know it doesn't suck so much. The Jets were 692 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: in the red zone six times and that was something 693 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: that would never happen with Zack Wilson at quarterback. I thought, 694 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: despite those failures down in you can't ignore them. Obviously 695 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: in the in the quarterback Mike White. There's some blame 696 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 1: there on him, blame on everyone for not being able 697 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: to finish that game. Off I saw more more good 698 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: things than bad things, and I'm very encouraged. I want 699 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: to point to one place because I don't think we 700 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: talked about it on Sunday Show. In the game, the 701 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: Jets were facing uh fourth and ten at the Minnesota 702 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: forty seven with three forty seven to play in the 703 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. On third intend White drop back to pass, 704 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: got crushed, peeled himself off the turf. Was not in 705 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: a good place physically. You could tell fourth and ten. 706 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: He stands strong in the pocket and drills past the 707 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: Corey Davis or thirty one yards to keep that driving 708 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,959 Speaker 1: around alive. That's why Garrett Wilson after the game says, 709 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: I would go to war for that boy. And that's 710 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: why this offense I think it's this is sustainable that 711 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: they're going to continue now to push defenses and be 712 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: able to score some points. That said, Buffalo's defense embarrassed 713 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: Mike White last year in a similar circumstance for interceptions 714 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: sent him back to the bench. In fact, and the 715 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: Bills at home. This is gonna be a huge test 716 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: greg for this Jets offense, not to mention the defense, 717 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: although I'm more confident in them than the attack. Yeah, 718 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: we learned this late week that Von Miller will not 719 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: be returning this season for the Bill's defense. We knew 720 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: he wouldn't play this game, but that is still he 721 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: said last week he wanted to play this game. So 722 00:36:54,760 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: that exploratory surgery obviously revealed something much worse. Um and 723 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: that's gonna affect them. It's a huge let down. And 724 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: I think they're a playmaking defense still, but there potentially 725 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: without Matt Milano this week, who's missing practice. Their potentially 726 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: without Jordan's Poyer, who has been on the side of practice, 727 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: And those are some of the guys that would make 728 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: big plays against Mike White. And I think Mike White 729 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 1: will give you a chance to make big plays. I'm 730 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: glad you brought up that throw because that was an 731 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: incredible throw and he's had some incredible throws. And I 732 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: think the Mike White bill of goods that I've been 733 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: sold is not the Mike White I've seen on the 734 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: field the last couple of weeks. He is not Mr. 735 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: Point guard who's gonna take a bunch of safe checkdowns 736 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: and hit the easy stuff. He's not necessarily like a 737 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: low risk, low reward guy. I see a guy who's 738 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: six ft five. By the way, he's got he's got 739 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: a big arm um. I don't know if it's like 740 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: above Yeah, he's got two of him, but he's got 741 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: if it's above average for an NFL starter, but it's 742 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 1: good enough human being and he's aggressive. And I wouldn't 743 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: say he's shown great touch either. If there's been a downside, 744 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: it's like everything is a heater. So to me, he 745 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: almost seems like a guy who's making good decisions. I'm 746 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: not saying that he isn't, but he's a guy who 747 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 1: will take some chances. That he's a little more Ryan 748 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick with a bigger arm. That's that's not a good 749 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: comparison either. I don't know who the right comparison is, 750 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna take chances, give the other 751 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: team another chance, but he's gonna make some big place 752 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: because of that. He's not just like a boring backup. 753 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm kind of shocked Cooper Rush beat him out in 754 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: a backup job back in Dallas. Granted that was four 755 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: years ago. That's throw he made to Corey Davis got 756 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: us out of our seats in the sky sports students. 757 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: I want to throw. And I actually stood up when 758 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: there's Corey Davis and the week before I was like, 759 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: there's Alijah More. I mean, it shows how much the 760 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: offense has woken up with Mike White there, that some 761 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: of these receivers that weren't even featuring uh in the 762 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: attick have now become prominent again. And Robert Silo couldn't 763 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: ignore everything that had happened with Zach Wilson's play, followed 764 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: by the comments, followed by the entire team getting on 765 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: the plane whearing a my I mean, how awkward a 766 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: moment was that the team whearing the mike. Why it's 767 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: crazy and it's just it's not even Jets, it's it's 768 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: football in general. Because the summer started with the Zach 769 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: Wilson as Good T shirts. I spent money on one. 770 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't know where it is now. It's a rag 771 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: under my sink. But the team is going to follow 772 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback they believe, and that's what we're seeing on 773 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 1: the on the Buffalo side of things here. Remember these 774 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: teams faced off last month and it was. It was 775 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 1: the biggest game of the Jet season. In the meadow Lands, 776 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: you've felt a home field advantage and they slowed down 777 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: their attack. I think finding a way to um neutralized 778 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs changes a lot, and the Jets have the 779 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: weapons to do that with Sauce Gardner of course, in 780 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: DJ Reid who uh you know. We just saw them 781 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: do it to Justin Jefferson, and I think if you 782 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: could do that, you put more pressure on Alan to 783 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: find ways and then he starts playing that hero ball 784 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, that elbow injury that affects him, 785 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: the Jets did that to him. That's what that was. 786 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: At the end of that game. Yeah, he said he 787 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: had five sacks in this game. It was the only 788 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: game where he didn't throw a touchdown pass. I think 789 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: since that elbow injury, of course, he's not been quite 790 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: the same. The turnovers have been there. He's still can't 791 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: be curtailed. He's going to throw himself in there and 792 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: try and punch out football's after interceptions and fumble recoveries. 793 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: But I like that Jets defense as well. Dan. I'd 794 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: just let you know as a Jets fan, so I 795 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: do an interview with the Jets. Jets are one of 796 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: the teams that market themselves in the UK, now so aggressively. 797 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: I wait for this bit. So I I do. I 798 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 1: do a series of interviews for the New York Jets. Um, 799 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: I have a contract. So really, if they win the 800 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I get ring. I would imagine, No, you do. 801 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: It's a team employee. There's been money has changed hands. Yeah, 802 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: but you're like, is that a fault? I think full 803 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: time jobs, get it? See how you let's see how 804 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 1: many minutes for a week are you working for the Jets? 805 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: Eleven or twelve? I mean, you gotta ring with the Rams. 806 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,439 Speaker 1: But that's he's the radio broadcaster. That's a whole game, pregames, game, 807 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: what about it? Not to you to Woody Johnson pre 808 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: interview and the post interview. All the work that Neil 809 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: does eleven and twelve minutes included that what I was 810 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: gonna say. My point I was gonna make it's a 811 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: great locker room. You know, you speak to d J. Reid, 812 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: you speak to Solomon Thomas, you speak to Garrett Wilson. 813 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: It's a really good locker room. And I know lots 814 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: of players come on and they do good interviews and stuff, 815 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: but because I see them one after the other, I 816 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: have a really good feel about where they're going under 817 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: Robert Sale. It's crazy to me the Bills are favored 818 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: by nine in this game. I think it's a very 819 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: tough matchup for the Bills, as we already saw, and 820 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,959 Speaker 1: it's because their line. The things we were concerned about 821 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: coming into the year with the Bills. Do they have 822 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: enough secondary depth that could be exposed here? How's their 823 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: offensive line going to be? I think it's gotten worse 824 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 1: throughout the season. I think Josh Allen had to bail 825 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: the out a little bit in Foxboro with some just 826 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: great plays, but they're not protecting him well. I don't 827 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: think the Jets offensive line is very good either, and 828 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: so it could be just which defensive line wrecks the 829 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: most amount of the shop here. But nine points is 830 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: way too much for me. And the Jets lost the 831 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: offensive lineman Max Mitchell, and there's somewhat mysterious uh circumstances. 832 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: He's out for the year, was moved to the non 833 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: football injury list. George fan is back. He's going to 834 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: be at right tackle. I find this one of the 835 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: things about this Jet season, they zig when I expect 836 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: them to zag, and vice versa. So every time I 837 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: think they're gonna win, they lose. And every time I 838 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: think they're gonna lose they're gonna win, they win. I 839 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: think the lose this game. I think the Bills are 840 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: a better team at home, and yet I think the 841 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: Bills win this figure. I'm just gonna say, though, if 842 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: you've cost me my super Bowl ring me and you've 843 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 1: got back down that it's not it's not if you're listening, 844 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: Jet Dan deserves it more if it's gonna be one. 845 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't think the Jets like me so much. I 846 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: don't think I'll be getting a ring. Let's take a 847 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: break and we will continue the draft. All right, welcome back. 848 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: It's uh the Draft Week fourteen and snakes to the 849 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: old Zuser and it's time for the Sunday Drive presented 850 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: by Toyota, and we will drive Greggy to Cincinnati. Does 851 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: that get you a little bit? That zinging a little bit. 852 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,399 Speaker 1: I'd love to go see the Wesleyans hang out with him. 853 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: I'm talking about from for draft purposes that you might 854 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: want that, because I I was, yeah, I would have 855 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and their quarterback the Shawn Watson. Uh. 856 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: They're the second game for Watson. Now. I don't know 857 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: how long it's gonna take for Watson to knock the 858 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: rust off. It might hell, you know, wouldn't it be 859 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 1: terrible if it never happened? What a shame that would be. 860 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: But Deshaun Watson now travels after getting a layup in 861 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,280 Speaker 1: the Texans uh, in his old home at NRG Stadium, 862 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: he has to go to Cincinnati to play a Bengals 863 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: team that is absolutely locked in right now. And I, uh, 864 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: as I've said on this podcast, my I have always 865 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: liked Joe Burrow, but this season, my my, I'm just 866 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: even more impressed with the way he plays the game, 867 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 1: the way he carries himself, the way he dresses. I think, 868 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: I think in another world, like if I could be 869 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: somebody like Burrow might be the guy I would want 870 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: to be. A guy that so talented, good looking dude, 871 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: charismatic guys, swaggy to greggy, something that I will never be. 872 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: So here we are now, um, with the Bengals ready 873 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: to stack another win and take it to a division rival. Yeah, 874 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: and they look complete, don they? Now? I think the 875 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: Bengals have been really good on defense the last couple 876 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 1: of weeks. They've shown different ways of winning a smart 877 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: JP rhin going over a hundred yards. You had, of 878 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: course shutting down Derrick Henry. That's not always how we 879 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: associate the Bengals were playing. Um, so we know about 880 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, who's He's just that to me, he's like 881 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: the you know, the old sort of we described the 882 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the eighties, like the gunslingers, Like oh, John 883 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: Elway throw five interceptions and he doesn't care or keep coming, 884 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: or Brett Fave in the nineties. Joe Borrow can take 885 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: five sacks, throw two interceptions, and then for a game 886 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: winner down the stretch. So I really like the Bengals. Um, 887 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think they are a very well rounded team. 888 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: I didn't I think we pay so much attention to 889 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: their offense. I didn't expect them to be as good 890 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: as they've been on defense in recent weeks. Yeah, and 891 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: even in the first month of the season, they've had 892 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: ups and downs. And they're not great at cornerback and 893 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 1: they're not great when they play the Browns. But otherwise, 894 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: other than that Monday night game against the Browns, the 895 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: Bengals are the best team in the NFL over the 896 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: last two months. I think just because of the teams 897 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: that they've played and the offense staying at that higher level, 898 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: like they'd be right there with the Eagles and the Chiefs. 899 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: But I think you've got to give the Bengals even 900 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 1: a little bit of an edge. And yet after these 901 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: last two games, you could argue that this is just 902 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 1: as big a test of their toughness. They have lost 903 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: five straight to the Kevin Stefanski Brown. They lost just 904 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 1: back in Week eight, when the when this little running 905 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: for the Bengals had already started, thirty two to thirteen. 906 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: You might think, okay, well, what about last year when 907 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals are actually good? They lost forty one to 908 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: sixteen against Baker Mayfield, Like there is something here that 909 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: they don't match up well, Like it's a meaningful But 910 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,439 Speaker 1: I believed in Joe Burrow when he said a couple 911 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, I loved and I'm with you and 912 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: what you're saying about Joe Burrow in terms of like 913 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: you would want him and begged team now. I I 914 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: wanted to push back on that, but trying not to 915 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: interrupt as much. You know that. Well, if it's something 916 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: that's I just I mean, you're swaggy in your way. 917 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: I think we all are. You know, Neil is the 918 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,959 Speaker 1: least swaggy of the three of us, so that we 919 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: welcomed him to our shores. He's a great post. But no, 920 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 1: you got that that British like stiff upper lip. You 921 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: count yourself with class, uh not? Not a swaggering charismatic 922 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: Now he's had through Kara kind. That's a shot that 923 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: I meant more just saying, you know, cockiness, we're obnoxious 924 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 1: Americans here. Wait, I wanted to get to my point, please, 925 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: I never did. It's about it's about this ground team 926 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: and this Bengals team, and it's actually about the Bengals 927 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: team the transition. It's gonna be good point. Great teams 928 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 1: do win the type of games that they won against 929 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: Tennessee the other week, where they kind of out physical 930 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,280 Speaker 1: them on the road and came back in a big spot. 931 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 1: Great teams win the type of game they had last 932 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: week against the Chiefs, where they make that comeback at 933 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: home against Patrick Mahomes and great teams and this stupid 934 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: Brown season put them out of their misery and get 935 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: off the schnide against Kevin Stefanski. And that's why I'm 936 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: locking up the Bengals this week. Its lock in with 937 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: this heart I am. I don't usually put this much 938 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: emotion on it because no results all season would bother 939 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: me more than the Browns winning this game. But Deshaun 940 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: Watson looked terrible last week. Let's put this miserable season 941 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: to the Browns out of its misery, charisma, passionate. Okay, yes, justin. 942 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: While we're on the subject of people locking up the Bengals, 943 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,479 Speaker 1: Hey heroes. Before I get to the lock of the week, 944 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: I have a question for y'all. Where do you nerds 945 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: come up with these nicknames? Block Zaddy, block father, lock 946 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: Daddy's Get the heck out of here. The only family 947 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: that matters when it comes to the Locks is the 948 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: Westling Brothers. And we've won three in a row and 949 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: we're ready to make another playoff run, just like we 950 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: did last year. What's we're staying home this week? The 951 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: Bangles and the Browns. Now. Everyone says the Browns owned 952 00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: the Bangles, but I'm not feeling that. Deshaun Watson not 953 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: only is he a terrible human being, but now he's 954 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: a terrible quarterback to Joey Burrow, he uses m v 955 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: P run lock it up. I love it. You know 956 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: what that is the great Nick Westling. I love that man. 957 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: Um And we were texting this week in fact, and 958 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: we were talking a little Burrow and I said, like, 959 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: Cincinnati must be in love with this, this man, this 960 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 1: athlete and uh and I said, uh, I wrote, he's like, 961 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: you know this guy, He's carries himself with confidence and 962 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: and someone you could kind of get behind. He's got 963 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: this game like Montana. Uh. They must be just obsessed 964 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: with them. And he wrote back they are, but not 965 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: like past grade athletes. Athletes. People are super chill about it, 966 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: almost like they have taken on his personality a little 967 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: like that even more. And that's a great sports town 968 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: and and region. They I think they understand what they 969 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: have here. I'm with you. I think this is gonna 970 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: be a romp. I don't buy into any type of Stefanski. 971 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm a little worry the Bengals in this fun big time. 972 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: I do too, but I'm a little worried. I liked 973 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 1: also that Tony GROSSI asked Kevin Stefanski, considering what a 974 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: big game this is for the Browns. We should mention 975 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: their five and seven We've mentioned all these other five 976 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: and seven teams. Their schedule has some winnable games moving 977 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: forward that their numbers have indicated they're better than the 978 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: record all year. So this is a big game if 979 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: you're a Browns fan. And he said, are you, you know, 980 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,959 Speaker 1: trying to do everything you can win this game? Would 981 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: that include benching Deshaun Watson during the game. And it's 982 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: like everyone is killing Tony Grossy and Cleveland for asking 983 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: this question, But I love asking it. At least it's 984 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 1: a football question because I'll allowed to ask any other questions. Yeah, exactly, 985 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: all right. That was the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. 986 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: The Draft now rolls over to Neil Reynolds in the 987 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,839 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler spot. Fantastic. Let me just say as well, Uh, 988 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: seeing Nick do the thing that, um, what an honor 989 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: is to be in the Chris west Limp podcast. You know, 990 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 1: it's my first time in here, so it's it's it's 991 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 1: really cool. I'm gonna pick for Mark. I'm going to 992 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: give Mark the gift of watching what I think is 993 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL. I'm going to give 994 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles at the New York Giants. So he 995 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: loves the Giants. You drafted. I think exactly how Mark 996 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: would have You might have flipped those two picks, but 997 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 1: you ended up the same. Mark. We've got some kindred 998 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 1: spirit stuff going on there. So I think that he 999 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 1: going over his place with some chicken soup, not chickens, 1000 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 1: like some type of tofu. Take him some noodles. Mark, 1001 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 1: how are you doing, By the way, let's check back in, 1002 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. I am having the time of my life. 1003 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 1: He doesn't need me, then he's situation. He'd a blanket 1004 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: watching every Christmas movie he can think of. What I 1005 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: have going for me is my raging apathy on this front. Yeah, 1006 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,439 Speaker 1: that's true. That's true. All right, So there you go. Hey, 1007 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: this is a big game, neal for the for the Giants, 1008 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: especially because you know they haven't what they have one 1009 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: win in six weeks now and you got Washington up next. Yeah. 1010 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: I know it's a tid test to beat the Eagles, 1011 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 1: but at least, like, feel good about yourself in this game. 1012 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: Don't get your doors blown up in your building. Yeah, 1013 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: and I think the Giants have found their level. I 1014 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: think when you look at how they started. There were 1015 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: a lot of one score games and they can go 1016 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: either way. But I think they've been fortunate in some 1017 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 1: of those games as well. So I think I think 1018 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: this is an Eagles win quite comfortably for me. I 1019 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,760 Speaker 1: think the Eagles are the best team in the NFL. 1020 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: And Mark spoke about this on the Your Sunday Show 1021 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 1: last week. When you can run for the three sixty 1022 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 1: three against Green Bay, then run for sixty seven the 1023 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: following week and your quarterback throws for close to four 1024 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: hundred and he's pulled out of the game, it's okay 1025 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: which way you want to try and stop us will 1026 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: beat you the other way. They are the most balanced team. Uh. 1027 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 1: Bill Parcels would love this team because it's all about 1028 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 1: the trenches and building in the trenches, and they can 1029 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,399 Speaker 1: dominate both lines. They get a lot of sacks. Their 1030 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: touchdown runs against Green Bay where the runners weren't touched 1031 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 1: until they got into the end zone five or six 1032 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: yards downfield. They just more people. So to me, I 1033 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: was I was one of those earlier in the season. 1034 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, the Equals for real, you know's 1035 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: they haven't been where they are, Um, you know, in 1036 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: terms of earning that respect from the public. And I 1037 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: think now they are absolutely for real, and I think 1038 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 1: there's a there's a separation. I'm with you on that 1039 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: I had there was some doubt for me and and 1040 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: I don't feel that way now. No, you just wear 1041 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 1: pushing back because I had them as my super Bowl champion. 1042 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: That's why you're like, I can't what's going on with it? 1043 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: Was you thinking about Greg when you're like, that's how 1044 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 1: everyone thinks, right, That's how I imagine it all the time. 1045 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 1: About me, there's that swaggy nous. Jalen Hurts has really 1046 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: improved as about me passer from the pocket, He's like 1047 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 1: accurate at every level. He's not similar to some of 1048 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: these other running quarterbacks in that I don't think he's 1049 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: better throwing on the move. I think he's actually better 1050 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: throwing from the pocket. And he's an incredible runner. And 1051 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,280 Speaker 1: that's not really what they're offfense is about is marrying 1052 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: those two. And that's fine. Everyone's got different strengths. But 1053 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: he has been really accurate in the intermediate level. He 1054 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: they always said he threw a beautiful deep ball, and 1055 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: he didn't quite hit on it last year. But he 1056 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 1: is hitting on it this year, and the matchup this 1057 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 1: week against these cornerbacks for New York, I think of 1058 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 1: all of their issues this year, I think their cornerbacks 1059 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: and their secondary and the injuries, losing a Tory Jackson 1060 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,320 Speaker 1: from a group that already was not very talented is 1061 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: the thing that hurt them the most. And I think 1062 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: the Eagles are set up in a way, and you 1063 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 1: saw it against Tennessee. They could take advantage of whatever 1064 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: mismatch you give him, whether it's in the middle level, 1065 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: whether it's in the running game, or whether it's on 1066 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 1: the outside. And this week it seems like it's gonna 1067 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,800 Speaker 1: be on the outside, and you would expect them to 1068 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: crush him. The offensive line for the Giants is not 1069 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,840 Speaker 1: playing well right now. Can I say a couple of 1070 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 1: couple of things from that game? Shook had a um 1071 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: something you said on Sunday that then I watched the 1072 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 1: game myself and I was like, I agree. It felt 1073 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: like the Giants offensive lee took some strides and had 1074 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: a little bit of more dynamic nature to them against Washington. 1075 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 1: I also thought something that we had been tracking se 1076 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley, did he look a step slow the previous 1077 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Yes, I thought he looked good. Last week. 1078 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: I thought he kind of exploded through the whole a 1079 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 1: couple of times, and I said, Okay, I think he's 1080 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 1: gonna be Okay. Um, this this particular rivalry is interesting. 1081 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,439 Speaker 1: So Jalen Hurts sixteen and two now in his less 1082 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: eighteen starts in the regular season. One of those losses 1083 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 1: and this kind of just tells you how much things 1084 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: have changed for this quarterback and this team. The last time, Um, 1085 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: they've lost two straight road games of the Giants back 1086 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,879 Speaker 1: in Week twelve last season. Hurts through odd and twenty 1087 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 1: nine yards and three interceptions. And it's just like, I'm 1088 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 1: not saying that means a different regime for the Giants 1089 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: the whole thing. That's that's something to keep an eye on. 1090 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: But I mean it more as like, can we it's 1091 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: hard to believe how much Jalen Hurts has progressed and 1092 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: become to me the m v P of the league 1093 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 1: so far, and I the way he carries himself. He 1094 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 1: talked in the Packers game. They talked about how he 1095 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,800 Speaker 1: was telling the reporters leading up for he's the temperature 1096 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 1: of the team and He didn't mean it in a 1097 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: in a conceited, arrogant way. He was just you've got 1098 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: to be that. And his growth has been incredible. But 1099 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: every time he goes to the press conference podium, you 1100 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,720 Speaker 1: come away impressed by what he said. I mean, obviously 1101 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,439 Speaker 1: the son of a coach, it's been around the game, 1102 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 1: kind of does it all the right way. And it's 1103 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 1: I think it's really good this season because his games 1104 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 1: stepped up so much and he has become like you're saying, 1105 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 1: Dan absolutely justified m v P contender. We get to 1106 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 1: see a bit more and no, a bit more about 1107 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 1: him as a leader, and I think he I think 1108 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 1: he's very small franchise leader like Burrow, and they're from 1109 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 1: the same draft class. It's really crazy to think of 1110 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 1: the draft class. I'll get it looks with Herbert into 1111 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 1: in the mix now as well. I love the Eagles 1112 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: that they never have to play their defensive players, by 1113 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: the way, it's such a luxury. Brandon Graham played eighteen 1114 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 1: snaps last week. Josh Sweat, who's having a great season 1115 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: like an edge rasher who makes fifteen million dollars a year, 1116 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 1: played twenty seven snaps. They just like rotate a minute out. 1117 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 1: They're barely on the field because the offensive dominated is 1118 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 1: what they did when they won the Super Bowl, and 1119 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,319 Speaker 1: they used to be able to rotate seven or eight 1120 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: guys with Bill Belichick come January. For them, of course, 1121 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 1: the way football is one bad step or a guy 1122 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: flawing into and all that gets thrown out the window. 1123 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: But having these guys juice s uff for you know, naturally, 1124 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: juice stuff I quite like for January. Sorry, Dan, when 1125 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 1: you're worry about injuries as well. I thought, going back 1126 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 1: to the Packers game, there were so many Jalen Hurts 1127 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 1: runs where it opened up so much and then he 1128 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 1: just went twenty yards downfield and then stepped out bounce. 1129 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,959 Speaker 1: We weren't seeing we weren't seeing any you know, Josh 1130 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 1: Allen hurdling or Joe Burrows spinning and falling on his back, 1131 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 1: and you know it was that was good. It was 1132 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: good to see that he will take a sensible approach 1133 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: because he's everything to All right, Greggy, you are up, 1134 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: all right, Let's go Seahawks Panthers in the late window. 1135 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 1: Only three games. I usually try to mix it up, 1136 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 1: but I've basically become a Seahawks and Lions House every 1137 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 1: Sunday in terms of what I'm watching, and uh, it's 1138 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 1: always first as the NFL's prime time schedule. I I'm 1139 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 1: worried about this game. As the world's newest Seahawks fan, 1140 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't see these two teams as very different. They're 1141 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 1: they're very different in the way that they play, but 1142 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 1: just overall qualities. So I went and I checked out 1143 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: like the d V O A over the last three 1144 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 1: or four weeks, and they had the Panthers and the 1145 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 1: Seahawks about twenty each. And that checked out too, because 1146 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 1: the Seahawks have a great passing game and not a 1147 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: lot else that's consistent week to week. And you look 1148 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 1: at the Panthers, since they got Jeremy Chin and j C. Hornback, 1149 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: that's two real deal guys in their secondary. They have 1150 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 1: a good pass rush. Steve Wilkes has been playing with energy. 1151 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 1: They kind of remind me the Lions in that at 1152 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: some point in the season the defense started playing with 1153 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 1: real energy and even the numbers back it up that 1154 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 1: they're a top ten defense. So I think they can 1155 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,960 Speaker 1: match up pretty well and make this a slog and 1156 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 1: make this a nervous game for the Seahawks who really 1157 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: have to win the games they're supposed to win and 1158 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: if they're going to make the playoffs. So I know 1159 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 1: you guys have talked about Geno Smith, right, and it's 1160 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,440 Speaker 1: all on Geno really at the moment, which is we 1161 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 1: actually haven't talked about Gino Smith this season, and I'd 1162 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: like to hear more. No, well, let's talk. I was 1163 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 1: going to say about Kenneth Walker in the gaming Munich 1164 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 1: just disappeared, and it's actually I thought that can happen. 1165 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 1: It can be like a one game thing where you, 1166 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, you build them up and you're doing your 1167 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 1: your pregame show and there's an hour of chatting and 1168 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 1: you're going through everything. So you build up Kenneth Walker 1169 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 1: and then you barely remember him even taking a snap 1170 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: and running the football. But that's been a thing, isn't it, 1171 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: Which is a worry, it is, But you know it's 1172 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 1: like they still find a way and they put the 1173 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 1: points and they got it done last week against the Rams, 1174 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 1: even if it wasn't pretty. And Greggy, I'm going to 1175 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 1: give you your tulips on this one, um, which is 1176 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 1: different than the other one. So I don't have to 1177 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 1: put money in the ain't it I've showed incredible discipline. 1178 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Do you know a certain rock star speaking of swaggy 1179 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: and charisma, a certain rock star offensive coordinator for the 1180 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, Ben mcade And do you remember what in 1181 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 1: part got Ben McAdoo poop canned right out of the 1182 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 1: meadow lands a few years back? I mean, you should 1183 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 1: give him the Presidential Medal of Courage or freedom? Just 1184 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 1: what is it right for the choosing Geno Smith over 1185 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: Eli Manning and then getting fired the next week because 1186 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: of it? So it wasn't the oversize suit of the 1187 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: first conference of the Star. So now Ben McAdoo was 1188 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: asked about Geno Smith and this is what he had 1189 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: to say, the O C of the Panthers. I have 1190 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for Geno. Uh, the way he 1191 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 1: carried himself in New York, way handled him business business. 1192 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: He's a pro um. So it's it's outstanding to see 1193 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 1: him having the success that he's having um in the 1194 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: years that he's having. And I'm a big fan of Geno. 1195 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't know about on on Sunday, but uh no, 1196 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a genial guy, um, which is uh 1197 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 1: he said he was a leader to atone. You see 1198 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 1: that little that smile on his face there too, because 1199 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 1: this has been a good thing for Ben McAdoo and Greggy. 1200 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 1: You know, Greg, I always treat you with respect. There's 1201 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 1: a man you know. We go back many years, and 1202 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 1: you know that I have respect for you, Seattle Seahawks 1203 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 1: fandom this season and what you were able to achieve 1204 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 1: here with Gino Smith, my luck father, I'm gonna look 1205 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 1: up to Seattle Seahawks this week and I asked you, 1206 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: as a showing of respect, to take this and join 1207 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: me in this luck oh, as a showing of the 1208 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 1: two emily is coming together to promote peace and prosperity, 1209 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 1: and that all our future children, our masculine children, what's up. Well, 1210 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 1: like had to find masculine for me. I just hope 1211 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: it all of your children, Uh, masculine children. I even 1212 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 1: you're putting me in a very uncomfortable position here, my friends, 1213 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 1: that the two families come together and let there be 1214 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 1: peace and prosperity. I feel like you you're locking up 1215 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Okay, that's that's the greatest gift you could have, 1216 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: a gift I show my respect to you. That alone 1217 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 1: is like opening up the beautiful present on Daddy Christmas 1218 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,439 Speaker 1: this Saturday at the Rosenthal House. That's Christmas. I don't 1219 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 1: even need to lock up the Seahawks. This alone is 1220 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 1: disrespect by not joining, I can't, I mean, come to you. 1221 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 1: This accent is uh not a good president. I don't 1222 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to change my lock whatever, 1223 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 1: I am locking up the Seahawks. I feel good about 1224 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 1: this game. I died. I like Carolina's defense, and Steve 1225 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 1: Wilkes certainly has done a really good job. But I 1226 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna travel Seattle and stop them 1227 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 1: from scoring four touchdowns. Yes, justin the lock Fathers may 1228 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 1: not be aligned this week, but you have a lock Zaddy. 1229 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 1: Because Mark Sessler absent from the pod, is I always return? Oh? Yes, 1230 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 1: This is a very interesting moment here that Dan asked 1231 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 1: me to join him and it ends up being Mark 1232 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,040 Speaker 1: from his confidence in you, and now I must go 1233 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 1: to the other This could be this could be a 1234 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 1: turning point. I'm just I'm just enjoying the show in 1235 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,920 Speaker 1: the flesh. Normally I'm on a treadmill listed to I mean, 1236 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 1: you're you're an active part. There's a lot of things 1237 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 1: going on here. Before we say goodbye to Neil, I 1238 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 1: do want UH bring up a very embarrassing moment about 1239 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 1: twenty minutes ago. He doesn't know this happened where I 1240 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 1: drank from his water, so we we're sharing sing fluids. 1241 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 1: On that side of that, I think there was some 1242 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 1: funny business going on. Did I drink and it got confusing? 1243 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,520 Speaker 1: And now about major regret us regret for you. I'm 1244 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 1: just making sure I'm okay. So I didn't drink um. 1245 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 1: How do how you feeling about it? I already feel 1246 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 1: the disease just being Channel five Neil Reynolds follow him 1247 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Neil Reynolds NFL is Yeah. Thanks. You 1248 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 1: don't follow me off the top of my head. I 1249 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 1: probably do, and if I don't, I will rectify it. 1250 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 1: But I almost certainly do. Uh. And also sky Sport everyone, 1251 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,640 Speaker 1: we have so many overseas listeners, you know, Neil, he's 1252 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 1: basically the eyes and out there. Wow, So thank you 1253 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 1: for words. Yeah. I think Zessler will be happy with 1254 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 1: this on I hope he's okay with it, and if 1255 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 1: he if he's mad about them, that's even better. I'll 1256 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 1: be six thousand miles away, But all right, we'll take 1257 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 1: a break and then finish out the draft. All right, 1258 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:14,640 Speaker 1: welcome back Neil Reynolds. We saw him off Greg as 1259 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 1: we went to break, total panic over taking a sip 1260 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 1: of another man's water. You know, I know it's been 1261 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: a lot that's happened in in the world in the 1262 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 1: last few years. Greg, when I'm starting to get a 1263 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 1: little bit worried that you're becoming one of those like 1264 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 1: German not a germophobe. And Neil said, he was like, 1265 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,919 Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't left his house in six years, 1266 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 1: not at all. But you also, you don't want to 1267 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: drink another man's water. You're never drinking o this. You 1268 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,440 Speaker 1: don't moan another man's lawn and you don't drink his 1269 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 1: water anyway. Um, stay with us, Greg, That's what That's 1270 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Greg, and a bubble would be kind 1271 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 1: of funny. I'm so not a germophobe. I'm not a germophobe. 1272 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 1: I am taking I'm just moving on in the draft. 1273 01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 1: I just gotta take We have the foot wait, put 1274 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 1: that footage up. We have footage of the moment Gregg 1275 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 1: takes the sip. This is good. This is why I 1276 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 1: gotta watch the TV show on NFL Network and YouTube, 1277 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 1: and watch as he takes the gulp of the water. 1278 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 1: He's enjoying it, he's washing it down. Oh, the germs 1279 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,440 Speaker 1: are invading my soul and my body. You could see it. 1280 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,920 Speaker 1: He's disgusted. He's not even hearing at that point. I'm 1281 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,080 Speaker 1: glad there's no close up. I wish we we gotta 1282 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 1: get the slow motion. Can we get a zoom and 1283 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 1: slow motion before the end of the show. All right, 1284 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 1: let's get back to it. Yeah, did you have something else? 1285 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:40,640 Speaker 1: Say no snakes to you. We got four more games. 1286 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,480 Speaker 1: Ravens Steelers used to be the best rivalry in the league. 1287 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 1: Now it's not but a little bit of juice here 1288 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 1: with Tyler Honley, Uh Steelers five and seven. There's a 1289 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 1: lot of five and seven teams around the NFL this 1290 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 1: week that I think I've been better than the records. 1291 01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 1: We've talked about that the Steelers are one of them. 1292 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:06,840 Speaker 1: They statistically played like a top tennis offense, which is crazy, 1293 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 1: or top tennis defense. No, no, no, a top ten 1294 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 1: team overall. Since thereby they had that nice game against 1295 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 1: Cincinnati which I was impressed by their offense overall, their 1296 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 1: defense has been rock solid. They did move the ball 1297 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 1: well against Atlanta, even if they scored. I think they 1298 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 1: showed something to themselves into their coach over the last 1299 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,160 Speaker 1: month that they can run the ball when they want 1300 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 1: to and that's who they want to be. The run 1301 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 1: blocking has gotten better, Nase Harris is definitely running the 1302 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 1: ball better. But you're coming up against a Ravens team 1303 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: who I think specializes in run defense. I do believe 1304 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,800 Speaker 1: in this Ravens defense a lot. I know they blew 1305 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 1: those late leads only once, really since I think they 1306 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: changed their identity and have improved, and so I don't 1307 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 1: think this is a gimmey win for either team. I 1308 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 1: picked the Steelers online. Who would you pick in this 1309 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 1: game if you were forced to pick games every weekday? Yeah? 1310 01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 1: I would pick the Steelers as well for the reasons 1311 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 1: you've meant shinned Um. Their defense is really come along here. 1312 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,400 Speaker 1: I think Pickett has not been someone that's blowing the 1313 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,480 Speaker 1: doors off the league like a Justin Herbert a couple 1314 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 1: of years ago, or name the rookie that makes an 1315 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 1: immediate impact. But I think he's leading the team and 1316 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 1: close at more, maybe not at the level when Mac 1317 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,760 Speaker 1: Jones is playing really well last year, but kind of 1318 01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:20,640 Speaker 1: in that in that club what it's like. He's not 1319 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,639 Speaker 1: holding the team back and he's making some plays UH 1320 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,880 Speaker 1: and Baltimore. I'm just not high on the Ravens right 1321 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 1: now at all. Even when Lamar was there, um My 1322 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 1: faith had been shaken by too many failed performances, too 1323 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,519 Speaker 1: many second half collapses. And while I like and respect 1324 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,240 Speaker 1: Huntley as as a backup, I don't I see them 1325 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,880 Speaker 1: struggling to score points here. I think it's another team. 1326 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 1: Like we talked about with the Bucks going to San Francisco. 1327 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,519 Speaker 1: This feels like a ten point week, thirteen point week 1328 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,439 Speaker 1: for the Ravens, and I think the Steelers find a 1329 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:53,840 Speaker 1: way and we have another to me like seventeen thirteen, seventeen, ten, 1330 01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:58,240 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen type game. I I agree that it will 1331 01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 1: be close, it'll be low score. Rien. I believe Huntley 1332 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:06,680 Speaker 1: played against the Steelers UH a year ago in Week seventeen. 1333 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 1: It was a crazy game, and that they ended up 1334 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,720 Speaker 1: losing sixteen to thirteen. He's always trying to lead these 1335 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 1: late comeback. He's not Lamar, obviously. He is very good 1336 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 1: at running for first downs. He had five running first 1337 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 1: downs last week. I thought he played as well as 1338 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 1: you could humanly play in a game where you only 1339 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 1: scored ten points and had an interception last week. He 1340 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 1: doesn't throw the ball deep though, like Lamar deep on 1341 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 1: the outside. He yeah, he he is. He is more 1342 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,680 Speaker 1: of kind of what we thought Mike White would be 1343 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 1: as a passer. He is that little a lot of 1344 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,960 Speaker 1: short stuff and point guard distributor. But that might be 1345 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,559 Speaker 1: all they need. Ronnie Stanley looks like he's gonna be back. 1346 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 1: That's really important for their offensive line. Who also lost 1347 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Macary the other tackle, So it's like they're they 1348 01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 1: lost both their tackles last week. Now you get one 1349 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,679 Speaker 1: of them back, they have a chance to win this game. 1350 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,960 Speaker 1: I think these two teams are close. If they don't, 1351 01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,000 Speaker 1: it gives the Bengals a real chance to go take 1352 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,920 Speaker 1: charge of this division and that one seed. The one 1353 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,080 Speaker 1: seat is everyone that has eight wins has a chance 1354 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,080 Speaker 1: for the one seeds. The Dolphins have a chance for 1355 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 1: the one seed. The Bengals have a chance. The Ravens 1356 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,360 Speaker 1: have a chance. Like I don't think the Chiefs are 1357 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 1: gonna slip up too much, so it's not that much 1358 01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 1: of a chance. But this is a huge game for Baltimore. 1359 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,799 Speaker 1: I was with you, You're talking about the Browns earlier, 1360 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 1: and you know, put their season too bed if Cincinnati 1361 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 1: can take care of them this week. There was a 1362 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:36,400 Speaker 1: scenario briefly I was thinking about when Cleveland with Watson 1363 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,560 Speaker 1: took car of Houston and then it looked like the 1364 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 1: Ravens were gonna get get beat by Denver after Lamar 1365 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,080 Speaker 1: went out, and then you were looking at that division 1366 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,160 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh man, this is this could get interesting. 1367 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 1: Could Cleveland catch Baltimore? I think they. I think Baltimore 1368 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,960 Speaker 1: could fade in the standings. I think it's a very 1369 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,679 Speaker 1: very strong chance here that Cincinnati ends up running away 1370 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,679 Speaker 1: from this with this division and Pittsburgh again, they're they're 1371 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 1: just in proving there are three and one since thereby, 1372 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 1: And I know this matters to to Mike Tomlin. It 1373 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,120 Speaker 1: matters the Steelers fans. I imagine the streak of never 1374 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 1: having a losing season. They have the fifth easiest strength 1375 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 1: of schedule remaining among a f C teams, and I 1376 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 1: think the hardest matchup is this one. And I like 1377 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,560 Speaker 1: them in this game. So I think the Steelers. I 1378 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna make a push for the playoffs. 1379 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 1: But I thought this season for the Steelers was heading 1380 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,960 Speaker 1: towards like just a real one of those ugly grim 1381 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,320 Speaker 1: four and thirteen type seasons. Uh, if you would have 1382 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 1: talked to me about them six weeks ago. And they've 1383 01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 1: really figured things out, and I think they're going to 1384 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,960 Speaker 1: continue to show us that it's the stars and scribes defense. 1385 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 1: But they have their stars playing well. Cameron Hayward's playing well. 1386 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,640 Speaker 1: Alex Highsmith I think is now a star, or at 1387 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 1: least he's a guy that you're gonna give a long 1388 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 1: term contract to. Ten Sacks playing really, t J Watt, 1389 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:52,080 Speaker 1: Minka Fitzpatrick's that's like four really good defensive players. I 1390 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 1: don't know by the rest of the guys, but they're 1391 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,679 Speaker 1: good enough. All right, Let's move now to the final. 1392 01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 1: Mark sesslerfick Mark of course under the weather, but we 1393 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,640 Speaker 1: have heard from him a couple of times today, so 1394 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 1: that's always nice. Uh. Neil Reynolds is checked out, so 1395 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 1: let's have the Grave Digger make a selection for Mark Well. 1396 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,439 Speaker 1: I think Mark has always talked about how he loves 1397 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 1: watching Patrick Mahomes play, and as much as he's also 1398 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,760 Speaker 1: on the Titans bandwagon, you better not be a Romo 1399 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,799 Speaker 1: game because he literally he will knife you. Is actually 1400 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,560 Speaker 1: your Jets this week? Really? Yeah? Can you believe that? 1401 01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 1: Is that right? Did you know that I didn't? Would 1402 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,960 Speaker 1: that have affected your draft choice? I was pretty set 1403 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 1: on the line here, Mr Jets, but I wanted Mr 1404 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,400 Speaker 1: Jets me. I've said many times, no problem with people 1405 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,440 Speaker 1: taking that if I didn't do that. My normal broadcaster preparation, 1406 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 1: that kind of which is look at the piece of 1407 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 1: paper you print for me, thank you. That's why I 1408 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,880 Speaker 1: knew that they were the Jets. I mean, although we 1409 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:55,599 Speaker 1: have to worry about Gravers uh attending to detail here. 1410 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,439 Speaker 1: If he thinks that Mark loves watching Patrick mah, he's over. 1411 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 1: Mark tends to like the the less covered athletes, the 1412 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,800 Speaker 1: ones that get a lot of primetime love and what not. 1413 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,720 Speaker 1: But either way, this is a good pick, taking the 1414 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 1: Chiefs that Broncos for Mark because there's no way Charles Davis, 1415 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:16,639 Speaker 1: you know, no, that's Mark away from the Titans because 1416 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 1: of everything that's happened since he joined. I see that's 1417 01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:24,639 Speaker 1: really funny, well well played there. Yes he's uh, he's 1418 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,880 Speaker 1: been a bit of a poison there, but uh, yeah, 1419 01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,840 Speaker 1: so we're going with Chiefs Broncos. You said, that's right, Okay. 1420 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,439 Speaker 1: I like that. The Chiefs I've really worked on the 1421 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,920 Speaker 1: running game. I know they didn't win that game last week, 1422 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 1: but when they ran it in the red zone on 1423 01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 1: third and four, I was like, okay, Chiefs and then 1424 01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,000 Speaker 1: some pretty good runs in key spots when the Bengals 1425 01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:46,840 Speaker 1: were kind of begging them too. And this is a 1426 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,360 Speaker 1: game where, yeah it's a mismatch, but the Broncos defense 1427 01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,719 Speaker 1: is great and I think they'll do some of the things, 1428 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,000 Speaker 1: uh that a lot of defense has tried to do 1429 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 1: against Kansas City, which has forced them to run. And 1430 01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,120 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have shown they can do it now with 1431 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,200 Speaker 1: Pacheco and McKinnon. I like McKinnon better. That's all I 1432 01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 1: get to say. There's three four pm games Eastern. Yeah, 1433 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,000 Speaker 1: but now we have Mark taking two of them. Oh 1434 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,680 Speaker 1: should I undo that? Oh? Justin we can do a 1435 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:19,120 Speaker 1: post show. You can do a post show trade and 1436 01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,920 Speaker 1: clean it up. I don't always take everything into account 1437 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,639 Speaker 1: that you guys do. Just that I bring you into 1438 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:28,640 Speaker 1: my home, give me my music, please, I'll bring you 1439 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:35,000 Speaker 1: into my own this podcast family we call an And 1440 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 1: this is how you want to pay me, which is 1441 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 1: great at the disrespect, I will not forget. That's all 1442 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 1: I got. We really need this, uh you know, for 1443 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,320 Speaker 1: everyone listening on the podcast to check out the TV 1444 01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,800 Speaker 1: show re errs throughout the weekend just to see Dan 1445 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 1: Hanson show for that al Pacino scent of a woman Oscar. Uh, 1446 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,880 Speaker 1: that's Brando. But all right, let's let's send anything else 1447 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,120 Speaker 1: we want to add to this game. I just want 1448 01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,160 Speaker 1: to say we've we've hit on the Broncos side of 1449 01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 1: this pretty hard recently. But I'll say it again, ten 1450 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:13,920 Speaker 1: games with one touchdown or less. And uh, the Russell 1451 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,800 Speaker 1: Wilson story line here, it's the biggest surprise in the NFL, 1452 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 1: I think this year. What has happened to him and 1453 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,880 Speaker 1: Denver and the expectations there. It's just it's still blows 1454 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,200 Speaker 1: my mind when you watch uh them on offense and 1455 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna I will slide and grab this game. 1456 01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,600 Speaker 1: Mark will understand, just so I can grab one of 1457 01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 1: these late games. Um, but like, I'm not gonna enjoy it. 1458 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,559 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be fun. And the Chiefs, I feel 1459 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,800 Speaker 1: I could be more in that uh the mode they 1460 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:47,479 Speaker 1: were against the Rams at Arrowhead where it's just survive 1461 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,479 Speaker 1: in advanced type vibe. So I don't expect this to 1462 01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:50,800 Speaker 1: be a fun game. And the one thing I'll give 1463 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 1: credit to Denver on Greggy that their defense hasn't quit 1464 01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,599 Speaker 1: despite all the frustrations on that other side of the ball. 1465 01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 1: Last week was interesting for the Broncos. They have gone 1466 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 1: to the next level and not trusting Russell Wilson to 1467 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,800 Speaker 1: throw the ball in a lot of situations running on 1468 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 1: third and five. Every third and long was a throw 1469 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 1: short of the sticks, but they did set up a 1470 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:16,720 Speaker 1: few deep shots. I I was skeptical of this assessment, 1471 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,559 Speaker 1: but that probably was Russell Wilson's best game of the season. 1472 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,360 Speaker 1: Even I'm just saying, no, you had that one game 1473 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,840 Speaker 1: against the Raiders, he was okay, I just mean they folk. 1474 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,920 Speaker 1: He did a couple of nice deep balls and didn't 1475 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,680 Speaker 1: make any huge mistakes. Greg Dulsich has really come on 1476 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,360 Speaker 1: as a nice option for them and this Chief's defense. 1477 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,600 Speaker 1: They're not a pass rush team. Show show us you 1478 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,240 Speaker 1: can have a plus game Chiefs defense. You're gonna have 1479 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,160 Speaker 1: to try to go win the Super Bowl with his defense. 1480 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,800 Speaker 1: If you can't make Russell Wilson look bad, then I'd 1481 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,240 Speaker 1: start being worried. Yeah, did you know that the Broncos 1482 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:55,920 Speaker 1: have won once in September? There were some people who 1483 01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,680 Speaker 1: saw them as a Super Bowl contender. I don't even 1484 01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 1: want to go back and check out my season for 1485 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:03,280 Speaker 1: actions because I think I had Wilson in the Offensive 1486 01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:07,400 Speaker 1: Player of the year. Well little check on that, all right, 1487 01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 1: So why don't why don't we flip this now? So 1488 01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,080 Speaker 1: let me grab that game. Let's make that the we 1489 01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,640 Speaker 1: talked about the trade last week that Mark this, this 1490 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,519 Speaker 1: is the terms of the trade. I actually moved up 1491 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,599 Speaker 1: one spot in this draft. I grabbed that. And now 1492 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,759 Speaker 1: justin you will take a game on behalf of Mark Sessler. 1493 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,240 Speaker 1: You're back at a kid, all right. Mark loves games 1494 01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 1: that end quickly that he doesn't have to pay super 1495 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,599 Speaker 1: close attention to. So let's give him Texans at Cowboys. Yeah, 1496 01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:38,639 Speaker 1: he would adore that game. All right. My my second 1497 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,839 Speaker 1: tray is a better tray. Now you have to provide 1498 01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:46,240 Speaker 1: though incredible analysis about this sends you threw it out, 1499 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:52,200 Speaker 1: all right, Let's see the Cowboys have dominated whatever. Let's 1500 01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 1: see the Cowboys are a team in Dallas, Texas for 1501 01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 1: Texas my home state ball. How much analysis Kyle Allen 1502 01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,959 Speaker 1: still playing. I saw Davis Mills said he was excited 1503 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,559 Speaker 1: to get out there and hasn't lost his confidence. Kyle 1504 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:14,640 Speaker 1: Allen isn't playing, Davis Mills is back, and uh, it 1505 01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,680 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They're the same person. Though. He said he 1506 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,479 Speaker 1: hasn't lost his confidence and he's excited to get back out. 1507 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 1: He should thank Kyle Allen. Davis Mills should buy him 1508 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,599 Speaker 1: like the best Christmas present, because there is a difference. 1509 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:32,920 Speaker 1: They're not the same. Kyle Allen was so bad. I 1510 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,559 Speaker 1: watched that game and thought, man, they could. They might 1511 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,759 Speaker 1: have won that Browns game with Davis Mills, just because 1512 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,760 Speaker 1: at least, if nothing else, Kyle Allen made Davis Mills 1513 01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,040 Speaker 1: look like a long term back up in the NFL, 1514 01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,720 Speaker 1: whereas I don't think Kyle Allen should be that. Just 1515 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,160 Speaker 1: give me this, Greggy, have you can you tell me 1516 01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,800 Speaker 1: with absolute certainty you've ever seen Kyle Allen and Davis 1517 01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,760 Speaker 1: Mills in the same place at the same time now, 1518 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,240 Speaker 1: but one of them has a huge neck, so they 1519 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 1: are distinctive in some In some ways, this will probably 1520 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:04,960 Speaker 1: be uh an easy game for the Cowboys to work 1521 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:08,240 Speaker 1: on their This is like this is again, Yeah, Michael 1522 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,599 Speaker 1: Parsons working on his Twitter issues, like this is a thing. Well, 1523 01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,759 Speaker 1: you're not digging pass rush Limbaugh. It's the best nickname 1524 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,519 Speaker 1: of all time, past rush Limba rush Limbaugh. H. He 1525 01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:23,120 Speaker 1: was fired up about the Brittany Grinder release from Russia. 1526 01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 1: It's good that Brittany back, though you're kidding me. I 1527 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 1: was like that felt. I was genuinely almost emotional when 1528 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,640 Speaker 1: I saw that. Was I don't know, that's been on 1529 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,879 Speaker 1: a long thing and you got Christmas coming. Almost emotional. 1530 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean I was emotional. It just it sounds like 1531 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm playing to the to the crowd or something, but 1532 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,920 Speaker 1: I was. It was great, great news to wake up 1533 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:43,880 Speaker 1: to this one. It was. It was very This is 1534 01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,400 Speaker 1: my last two wake ups. Actually woke up on UM 1535 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. Aaron Judge back to the Yankees on a 1536 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,800 Speaker 1: year deal. I'm sure that will work out. The next day. 1537 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:59,640 Speaker 1: Grinders out different in scope in terms of like importance 1538 01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 1: to the people. Um, but I very important. I see 1539 01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 1: what you're saying. You know what else is important? Cowboys 1540 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 1: They lost Anthony Brown for the season starting quarterback to 1541 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,479 Speaker 1: the I've liked Ron Bland who had those interceptions, but 1542 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,400 Speaker 1: this is kind of it's perfect. They can work on 1543 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,800 Speaker 1: like the things they're not happy with, except it's like 1544 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 1: a preseason game, except you get a win in the 1545 01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,120 Speaker 1: in the standings after it's over. Did you see some 1546 01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:28,040 Speaker 1: of the Uh. I saw Joe Douglas trending also this morning, Greggy, 1547 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:29,879 Speaker 1: and I was like, what is this? Was my GM trending. 1548 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,639 Speaker 1: It was all people just doing bits of how if 1549 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,439 Speaker 1: he would have handled the negotiations of the Grinder release, 1550 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:40,679 Speaker 1: the America would have gotten way more. I that's that's funny. 1551 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,160 Speaker 1: But I also am annoyed by like the people who 1552 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,639 Speaker 1: treat it as if it's some like trade deadline deal. 1553 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,920 Speaker 1: They're like, well, what, you didn't get enough for the 1554 01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,040 Speaker 1: second round pick. It's like, this is real life here. 1555 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,960 Speaker 1: Just shut up. Thank you, Greg, You've as always put 1556 01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,759 Speaker 1: it in proper perspective. Okay, I'm gonna put one quick 1557 01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,559 Speaker 1: point in perspective for this game, and then we can 1558 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:03,400 Speaker 1: move on Dalton's alts Michael Gallup like thirteen targets last week, 1559 01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,080 Speaker 1: fifty six yards, Doc actually didn't really have that good 1560 01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,200 Speaker 1: of a game, uh, throwing the ball. Despite all this point, 1561 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,080 Speaker 1: I just want to see them be a little more 1562 01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,720 Speaker 1: consistent those two guys are really important. Now that we 1563 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:15,599 Speaker 1: know O. B J Is not coming and I think 1564 01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,519 Speaker 1: we know it. Uh, that's their second and third receiver. 1565 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,320 Speaker 1: They're gonna need to be consistent and they it's been 1566 01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,080 Speaker 1: up and down. Like one week you think they're back 1567 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,360 Speaker 1: and then they're not. Just stay healthy, Dallas Cowboys, get 1568 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:31,320 Speaker 1: through the game, survive in advance. Let's move on now. Uh, 1569 01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,960 Speaker 1: last pick. Right, We're at the Titans and Jaguars. Titans 1570 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 1: and Jaguars. Um, Actually, it could be a good game. Actually, 1571 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,120 Speaker 1: I think it will, just I think it'll be a 1572 01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,880 Speaker 1: close game. Now, the Jaguars got humbled a little bit. 1573 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:46,640 Speaker 1: I wonder if they were a little high on their 1574 01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:51,600 Speaker 1: own supply after the way things closed out. UM in 1575 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,200 Speaker 1: week twelve with that dramatic two point conversion to beat 1576 01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:59,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens, and everybody including people in this room talking 1577 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 1: up the game is the thing game that changed everything, 1578 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,599 Speaker 1: uh for the Giaguars. And uh, you know, I'll cycle 1579 01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 1: back to the point I made last week in this 1580 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,120 Speaker 1: very show, and I brought up Peyton Manning and Night 1581 01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,360 Speaker 1: and his big game he had to beat a really 1582 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,760 Speaker 1: good Jets team. Well, that next week he went to 1583 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,519 Speaker 1: Buffalo and that the Colts got killed. So it's not 1584 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,439 Speaker 1: like it's not like this is it's a flip to switch. 1585 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,439 Speaker 1: And now the quarterback in that offense will always be good, 1586 01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,160 Speaker 1: but we've now seen it can happen at any time. 1587 01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 1: And uh, the Tennessee tickle monsters are gonna really need 1588 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,720 Speaker 1: to step up here, Justin and put some pressure on 1589 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,120 Speaker 1: on Lawrence Lawrence, and we're gonna need at some point Justin. 1590 01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna need your running back to break out of 1591 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:45,960 Speaker 1: this funk and allow Ryan Tannehill to operate. And you know, 1592 01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 1: we know Trayvon Burke's Traylon Barks. He is um still 1593 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 1: the concussion protocols this time, at this time, Robert Woods 1594 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,880 Speaker 1: hasn't made a big impact this year. You need, you need, 1595 01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:58,800 Speaker 1: you need Derrick Henry to break out of this and 1596 01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,240 Speaker 1: put up a big game. Yeah, come on, de Henber 1597 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:05,800 Speaker 1: where you at hasn't hasn't really think I don't know 1598 01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,640 Speaker 1: if I have that more like de Hoover, And we 1599 01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:15,080 Speaker 1: were also excited for dem Berks, but that's a lot 1600 01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:20,519 Speaker 1: is also out of practice. Christian Fulton's out of practice, 1601 01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,720 Speaker 1: David Long's out of practice, and most importantly in this game, 1602 01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,559 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is out of practice now. There was early 1603 01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,080 Speaker 1: optimism out of Jacksonville that he'll return to practice by 1604 01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,439 Speaker 1: the end of the week and and can hopefully play. 1605 01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,880 Speaker 1: But I remember a certain team that's also playing in 1606 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:42,280 Speaker 1: this game that gave some early week optimism about their 1607 01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 1: quarterback who wasn't practicing, and then it turns out they 1608 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,559 Speaker 1: were doing an oki dok the whole time to get 1609 01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:53,960 Speaker 1: the other team to prepare. Be connish. I think there's 1610 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,320 Speaker 1: a realistic chance C. J. Bethard is starting this game 1611 01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,519 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, which would be a shame uh and serratite. 1612 01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't believe when I was watching the 1613 01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:06,280 Speaker 1: Jags that you know that looked bad when he got 1614 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 1: twisted down and bent the wrong way Lawrence did, and 1615 01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,400 Speaker 1: when he went down in the Detroit and with surprise 1616 01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:12,960 Speaker 1: that he came back, to be quite honest with you, 1617 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,040 Speaker 1: and he ran really well. I wonder if he was 1618 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,880 Speaker 1: shot up though. It's a toe injury, which I think 1619 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 1: is fascinating because those are usually lingering. Could be the 1620 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 1: dreaded turf toe uh ligament damage in there. So yeah, um, 1621 01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:29,760 Speaker 1: but I do you know what I do I think 1622 01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:33,280 Speaker 1: de Hamber. That would be my kind of something I 1623 01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,200 Speaker 1: feel good about, almost to the point where I would 1624 01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,240 Speaker 1: lock your guys, um. But because if everything that's happening 1625 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,439 Speaker 1: with the Titans, of course the general manager firing, and 1626 01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,120 Speaker 1: I think Rabel, as we know, is a very good coach. 1627 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,040 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler said at the top of the show, he's 1628 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 1: gonna I think he's gonna circle the wagons here and 1629 01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,400 Speaker 1: have this team ready to play. And I think you're 1630 01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,760 Speaker 1: gonna get be ready to cut this for the show 1631 01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,840 Speaker 1: on Sunday. I think we're gonna get one of those 1632 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,840 Speaker 1: monster Henry games. I'm thinking a hundred and fifty plus 1633 01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,439 Speaker 1: rushing yards, mull, ultiple touchdowns, maybe a big reception as well, 1634 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,840 Speaker 1: and that's going to be the difference in the Titans win. 1635 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,280 Speaker 1: That kind of settles things down if they're really chaotic 1636 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,280 Speaker 1: two weeks. I love those predictions. You know his Week fourteen, 1637 01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,840 Speaker 1: when Derrick Henry had his breakout game on Thursday night 1638 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,360 Speaker 1: football ran for those four touchdowns yards score. So we're 1639 01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,240 Speaker 1: at the same time of year against the same opponent. 1640 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,040 Speaker 1: This is prime de Hamber territory, That's what I'm saying. 1641 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,920 Speaker 1: It's crazy because I can remember where I was for 1642 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:31,040 Speaker 1: that very game in the First City newsroom. Chris Westling 1643 01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,600 Speaker 1: was on that night as well. With me, I'm not 1644 01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:38,400 Speaker 1: as confident though about this game for the Titans and 1645 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:44,400 Speaker 1: two against the division since the start of And is 1646 01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,280 Speaker 1: he gonna do? Is he gonna believe? I believe enough 1647 01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,160 Speaker 1: that this is going to be a closer game than 1648 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,840 Speaker 1: everyone thinks, but still Titans will pull it out. I'm 1649 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 1: walking up there, you go, justin. I believe it will 1650 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 1: be closer game than everyone thinks. But I'm locking up. 1651 01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,080 Speaker 1: It's a four point spread. That's good. That's a good job. 1652 01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:07,000 Speaker 1: Just he justin knows what he's doing here. He knows 1653 01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,719 Speaker 1: he might get C. J. Beathard. And then the line 1654 01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:13,280 Speaker 1: moves and you got a fact, all these things being sneaky. 1655 01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,080 Speaker 1: Dan said that the Titans made me look foolish earlier. 1656 01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,439 Speaker 1: I've made myself look foolish enough. Now I'm in the 1657 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:24,200 Speaker 1: last place in the lock standing. We could if we're 1658 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,000 Speaker 1: there there, let's take a look Greggy and and first, 1659 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,640 Speaker 1: but he betrayed me. So I'm gonna come for him now. 1660 01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,720 Speaker 1: Zeus or nine and for the defending champion zuer You 1661 01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,280 Speaker 1: want to find the trophy head to Zeuser manner. Go 1662 01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:41,640 Speaker 1: to my foyer. There is nineteen or trophy can be 1663 01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,639 Speaker 1: looking at a dynasty here you live in the past. 1664 01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,240 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, eight and five of the West Brothers seven 1665 01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:51,080 Speaker 1: and six and graved there sub five D. I don't 1666 01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,560 Speaker 1: know something about that producer chair. They don't quite the 1667 01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,840 Speaker 1: game escapes them, and Justin is here's the thing. Justin 1668 01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,800 Speaker 1: as a very knowledgeable football fan, but something about that 1669 01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,880 Speaker 1: share leads to madness when it comes to the lock game. 1670 01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,719 Speaker 1: I told you I want you guys to be in first. 1671 01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:09,040 Speaker 1: It's you're the host of the show that I think 1672 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,160 Speaker 1: I was in last. I am worried. Just I just 1673 01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:12,680 Speaker 1: want to get this out. I think there's a dark 1674 01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,720 Speaker 1: timeline for the Titans where things completely fall apart. So 1675 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:19,200 Speaker 1: you got Jeffrey Simmons is not looking the same. The 1676 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,040 Speaker 1: offensive line is a mess that just fired their GM 1677 01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,920 Speaker 1: where they could be like an eight or nine win 1678 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 1: team in the in the playoffs still, but just that 1679 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,559 Speaker 1: it doesn't go well. I don't know about what happens 1680 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:30,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the season, but I will tell 1681 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:37,040 Speaker 1: you this, just nice, relaxing dub henry O beast that 1682 01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,840 Speaker 1: would match the Titans highest score of the seat point total, 1683 01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,599 Speaker 1: not a not an lead offense. That's about the best 1684 01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,880 Speaker 1: they can do. Um. All right, there you go. That 1685 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:50,759 Speaker 1: is the draft. That is the program. Uh what's before 1686 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:54,840 Speaker 1: we go again? If you are in the Los Angeles area, Hell, 1687 01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,320 Speaker 1: even if you're not in the Los Angeles area, we 1688 01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:01,479 Speaker 1: have our a t N home homecoming, uh live show 1689 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:08,559 Speaker 1: from the Bourbon Room in Hollywood, Wednesday, January. Get your 1690 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:12,920 Speaker 1: tickets Ticketmaster or anywhere else. I love it. Con memory, 1691 01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,479 Speaker 1: we heard that our last mentioned sold some tickets and 1692 01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,720 Speaker 1: they could be out before Christmas, so don't wait. All right, 1693 01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,160 Speaker 1: there you go. Thank you to Neil Reynolds for his 1694 01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:26,000 Speaker 1: expert work. Thank you to Mark Sessler for popping in. 1695 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,240 Speaker 1: That's so you know he's a trooper for the Old 1696 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,599 Speaker 1: Boss and the grave digger and everyone behind the glass. 1697 01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,320 Speaker 1: Remember he the call