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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined in
Speaker 1: the room failed with heroes Mark Sesler, Chris Westling and
Speaker 1: Greg Roshal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? What? What? What? Mark? What?
Speaker 1: Gave me a look? I'm not gonna the listener does
Speaker 1: not need to know what that was about. That's inside baseball?
Speaker 1: You mean football? Yeah, he says site baseball is one
Speaker 1: of those archaic terms attached to a dying sport that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna allow it to continue to grasp onto a right,
Speaker 1: a nice little baseball dig in there again. Marcus spent
Speaker 1: most of this week complaining that all sports, the seasons
Speaker 1: are too long, regular seasons and in what I've literally
Speaker 1: every sport now he has the same conversation. I used
Speaker 1: to be baseball, but now he's moved on to basketball,
Speaker 1: all sports he doesn't watch it. Well. I found it
Speaker 1: interesting that he really really dug your heels in when
Speaker 1: I brought up hockey is not being as being too long? No,
Speaker 1: I really like my sports. I don't think you know
Speaker 1: anything about these sports. And you're saying, but the season
Speaker 1: is too long. I know you don't even watch the games,
Speaker 1: but but I would, you know, I think about I
Speaker 1: think a large chunk of people that even enjoy basketball
Speaker 1: would say the regular season has lost some of them.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jerry j takeaway here's that we all have empty
Speaker 1: lives and we need this to fill them. That's what
Speaker 1: sports are, Aren't they something that you could turn on
Speaker 1: and watch when you get home from the factory. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting out there, that's it, Marks, just I've got a
Speaker 1: great seat. I'm not gonna You're not gonna participate. My
Speaker 1: feet up and watch this magic. This is great. There's
Speaker 1: no easing into this show. You want some real magic. Yes,
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Our live show next Friday, a show
Speaker 1: that Mark would like to shorten to half the time.
Speaker 1: It applies to certain things that must be short sold out.
Speaker 1: Our London show sold out in less than a minute
Speaker 1: when it went on sale this morning. Uh an incredible,
Speaker 1: incredible feeling for the whole group here, because I mean,
Speaker 1: what else can you say? It's It's like, now we
Speaker 1: know what Limp Biscuit feels like when they toward Jacksonville
Speaker 1: or something. London is our hometown. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: R Fred Durst, an incredible feeling, um, but hopefully for
Speaker 1: our shadowy League figures, an incredible feeling of missed opportunity
Speaker 1: that we could be filling up a theater four times
Speaker 1: the size. I mean, we've we've made these thoughts this
Speaker 1: big venue. You guys were not selling it short either.
Speaker 1: It's not like we sold out as it's one next
Speaker 1: next time around, we're gonna keep pushing to get a
Speaker 1: bigger place. So what we can see more of you,
Speaker 1: well see you throughout there will be that show. We
Speaker 1: should keep pushing for a bigger venue when you get
Speaker 1: to the point where there are roughly empty seats, and
Speaker 1: that's what I feel like a different Nuts episode. We
Speaker 1: need a manager who will build us out of most
Speaker 1: of our money, is what we need. We need that
Speaker 1: a Colonel Parker. Yeah, we need to take all of
Speaker 1: our money and some rig deal and then I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get after the shadowy leg figure. Um.
Speaker 1: You know who's helped us a lot on this way.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's larger than one person. It's NFL corporate policy.
Speaker 1: But hopefully we can chisel away at that part us
Speaker 1: put us in an arena and if you have to
Speaker 1: tarp off the upper deck, top off the upper deck.
Speaker 1: We want to know how many people we how much
Speaker 1: meat can we put in the seats in England, that's
Speaker 1: the question now, because we know when a show sells
Speaker 1: out in under sixty seconds, we have an audience feels
Speaker 1: indicative of something. Well, hopefully somebody upstairs for our for
Speaker 1: our non ut, you guys are gonna love the next
Speaker 1: week and a half. Yeah, it's it's and delivered to you.
Speaker 1: We will be here state side. Brought it up. I
Speaker 1: think it's important. And we promised to the listeners who
Speaker 1: are like, oh god, they're going on on then again
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to hear about it all week.
Speaker 1: We'll we'll bounce it out. It's not gonna be you know,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be there. It's gonna be great. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be great. We're gonna have our same number shows,
Speaker 1: maybe even an extra show if we put the live
Speaker 1: show up as well, so you're gonna get more content. Uh,
Speaker 1: and we'll only be gone away. I mean case in point,
Speaker 1: we did our c our Week one preview from a
Speaker 1: cricket stadium last year. Uh, we were highly professional in
Speaker 1: invariable US. I thought we did one of our best
Speaker 1: shows of all time. I've never seen us all that
Speaker 1: sick before. Very professional. We we will be on better
Speaker 1: behavior in twenty nineteen, potentially. All Right, got a lot
Speaker 1: of get a lot to get to. Uh, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk some power rankings at the quarter pole. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do some news, including a a couple of injury updates unfortunately,
Speaker 1: and a surprising suspension. But first, what's close out Week
Speaker 1: four with the Monday Night football recap. Rudolph stays in
Speaker 1: the shotgun. The Oklahoma State kid Connor stands to his right.
Speaker 1: He wants to throw it. He's back, big Rush grows
Speaker 1: it down, The peel of the man wide opens and
Speaker 1: it's pulled on body up Hey juson a touchdown. Rudolph
Speaker 1: took shotson forty three yards. Hanif Steelers are having from
Speaker 1: play football? Bill hill Grove, first time we've heard him
Speaker 1: this season w d V with the call. Yes. The
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers got the perfect anecdote to end their early
Speaker 1: season funk. It was the Cincinnati Bengals coming to town,
Speaker 1: a twenty seven to three pounding of Cincinnati at Hines field,
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph threw for two yards and two touchdowns. Jalen
Speaker 1: Samuel's had a big day. Uh, James Conner finally did
Speaker 1: something uh at running back and the defense took it
Speaker 1: to Andy Dalton, who got sacked eight times UH Bengals
Speaker 1: in his score in the final fifty one game minutes.
Speaker 1: A total disaster of a showing um for the Bengals
Speaker 1: West the Steelers for all the doom and gloom, and
Speaker 1: why don't you start owing three? It is doom and
Speaker 1: gloom and it's well earned. Well, they're only a game
Speaker 1: out in their division right now. Well, we saw a
Speaker 1: couple of teams and we'll get to one a little
Speaker 1: bit later. Who had Here's a new kind of game
Speaker 1: for you. The last stand game. This is the last
Speaker 1: stand for the Steeler season. And they pulled out all
Speaker 1: the stops. They pulled out their gadget game plan, which
Speaker 1: included a lot of wildcat and Jaln Samuel's because to
Speaker 1: this point they don't trust the processing ability of their
Speaker 1: quarterback pre impost snap. And that's that he's only had
Speaker 1: what one start before this game, So that's understandable. They
Speaker 1: want to turn their season around and not have their
Speaker 1: quarterback ruin it for them, So this is the game
Speaker 1: plan we got. It didn't tell me that much new
Speaker 1: about the Steelers other than they can make a game
Speaker 1: plan for Mason ruff because we've said it. Stephen Tour,
Speaker 1: Cameron Hayward, and t J. Watt are having great years,
Speaker 1: not good years. They're having among their best years. And
Speaker 1: these are three really good players in their front. It
Speaker 1: didn't totally shock me that they can stuff the Bengals.
Speaker 1: But one hundred and seventy five yards two point seven
Speaker 1: yards per play for the Bengals and the amount of
Speaker 1: pressure Dalton was under it is still pretty It is
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. We've seen some of these defensive performances this
Speaker 1: year where the bad offenses in the league just can't
Speaker 1: operate any more more in this September than we've seen
Speaker 1: in a while. We didn't, you know, the Bengals weren't
Speaker 1: immediately placed in the same category as the Dolphins of
Speaker 1: the Redskins on offensive. In fact, they've been competitive in
Speaker 1: two weeks, but two other weeks they've been blown out
Speaker 1: right and it's I think it was obvious to see
Speaker 1: that the mismatch of a Cincinnati's line, which has been
Speaker 1: a liability all year. Wasn't hot water against a Steeler's front.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the players involved there, They've tied or led
Speaker 1: the league in sacks the last two years. I feel
Speaker 1: like that gets that slips on off people's radar a
Speaker 1: little bit. They don't see that, and they don't see
Speaker 1: the team that way, but they've gotten pressure consistently for
Speaker 1: a long time. They laid total havoc to the Bengals,
Speaker 1: and it's not a good look. And I you know,
Speaker 1: I saw the tweet that Boogram McFarland mentioned that, you know,
Speaker 1: he really loved what Zach Taylor was doing, you know,
Speaker 1: deep into the third quarter when they're losing by like
Speaker 1: twenty four points. Well, that's that's not the quote he
Speaker 1: probably was looking to tell the nation there. But I'd
Speaker 1: be really concerned with the whole organization of the Bengals
Speaker 1: team because they're not an organization that is going to
Speaker 1: fast track away out of this mess based on what
Speaker 1: we know historically now. And they had a they had
Speaker 1: some pretty big line questions to begin with, and then
Speaker 1: you you lose three or four starters, a couple to retirement,
Speaker 1: and in in your first round pick, and suddenly you
Speaker 1: can't even operate. I'm just curious Ken Mason Rudolph, you know.
Speaker 1: And we get an answer this coming week against Baltimore.
Speaker 1: That's a big Week five game, considering that the Steelers
Speaker 1: are one and three. You know, how many of these
Speaker 1: games can you come up with where you're protecting your
Speaker 1: quarterback like that? There's there's a lot lately though the
Speaker 1: NFL is different where you see a pretty shaky quarterback
Speaker 1: or not shaky but not one of the best quarterbacks
Speaker 1: start the game twelve for twelve. It's like Jacobe Prisette
Speaker 1: starting sixteen for sixteen, Josh Rosen seven for seven. All
Speaker 1: around the league where there's scheme. Mitchell Trabinsky basically did
Speaker 1: that against Washington. They're scheming all these throws that don't
Speaker 1: go past five yards and and it kind of works.
Speaker 1: I just don't think it can work for the whole season.
Speaker 1: It can work a few games. Well, this is the trend.
Speaker 1: It's not brand new, but I think over the past
Speaker 1: two years we've seen that. Well, they're taking the high
Speaker 1: risk plays out of the passing game across the league.
Speaker 1: It's college football, you know it. There's something called you know,
Speaker 1: they used to say, you're going into the happens like
Speaker 1: can he make pro throws? It's like you can watch
Speaker 1: Jared Goffy's struggling right now and you can still see
Speaker 1: ten pro quote unquote throws that probably Mason Rudolph and
Speaker 1: some of these other quarterbacks haven't made in their entire
Speaker 1: NFL careers combined. And he does it in one game
Speaker 1: in which he struggles. My natural skepticism of analytics and
Speaker 1: the impact it has on the beauty and art form
Speaker 1: of sports leads me to believe this is an analytics
Speaker 1: driven thing where it might be helping the risk for teams,
Speaker 1: but it's not helping the viewing product for us. No,
Speaker 1: And I like, you know, we'll get to the to
Speaker 1: the Power rankings part of the show later, but like that,
Speaker 1: because I'm hitting into something that I saw in the
Speaker 1: Power Rankings that I feel is very unusual for any
Speaker 1: time that I've been alive, even covering the a f
Speaker 1: C North or watching it as a fan, But us
Speaker 1: together to have two a f C North teams out
Speaker 1: of four buried deep, deep deep in rankings like that,
Speaker 1: and I think I get the Steelers just because there's
Speaker 1: innate trust in that organization to climb out of the
Speaker 1: holder into some degree, but they're in a much different
Speaker 1: situation than they've been in before based on your quarterback comments.
Speaker 1: All right, and uh, we'll look ahead of course on
Speaker 1: Thursday's episode at week five. But we got Baltimore coming
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh on Sunday, so things can get interesting if
Speaker 1: the Steelers can find a way to um run back
Speaker 1: a similar performance or effort as they did against the Bengals.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do some news big Welcome back to
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy League one. And right now, we decided that
Speaker 1: we're going to mail it in and start stealing segments
Speaker 1: from other shows. And it's a segment that a p
Speaker 1: N likes to call what's more likely you know what,
Speaker 1: Adam Raik if he's putting it out there and he's
Speaker 1: owning it that they're lifting the bits. Uh, that's cool
Speaker 1: with me. What about you guys? Yeah, absolutely, I kind
Speaker 1: of think you like. I like the approach. It's just
Speaker 1: saying we've we've essentially just stolen your creative property. This
Speaker 1: particular one to never bothers me when you see some
Speaker 1: if you see similar ones, because it's just like either
Speaker 1: or it's not like we came up with that the
Speaker 1: words though itself what's more likely? I like that. I
Speaker 1: stick to the line that it did that we did
Speaker 1: come up with it. It is ours and let's trip.
Speaker 1: Do you know what? The first what's more likely was
Speaker 1: what's more likely Ricky Hollywood returns from her europe vacation,
Speaker 1: her European vacation, or Sammy Watkins becomes a top ten
Speaker 1: wide receiver. And they said, there's absolutely no chance that
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins becomes a top ten wide receiver, but that's
Speaker 1: still more likely than Ricky Hollywood returning from Europe. You
Speaker 1: do have like a second leg to the trip after
Speaker 1: our London trip, what is that? I'm going to Barcelona
Speaker 1: and then also potentially Lisbon, uh, Portugal. Wait, and and
Speaker 1: there's a trip preceding the London trip. Yes, Emma's weddings
Speaker 1: this weekend, I'm going to New York. You know the
Speaker 1: regular season is currently ongoing, right, Yeah, But if I
Speaker 1: leave now, I don't have to leave during free agency. Again.
Speaker 1: I don't even dare ask what you're why you're going
Speaker 1: to Lisbon and what's going to be happening there as
Speaker 1: week seven turns into weekends. Sounds like a great place
Speaker 1: and you know, our show, over the course of a
Speaker 1: thousand episodes or so, we've never lifted anyone else's eye
Speaker 1: for any segment we've ever done. That happens quite a
Speaker 1: bit within under the umbrella of this NFL media group
Speaker 1: for ideas we've come up with. So the fact that
Speaker 1: Rank is at least putting a name on it, that's nice.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have five creative powerhouse sitting here around
Speaker 1: the table, so we don't need to lift Jack from anyone.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it. You knew Vant's Perfect
Speaker 1: was in trouble when he laid out Uh didn't even
Speaker 1: lay him out Jack Doyle, the Cults tight end, was
Speaker 1: in a prone position. He was he was vulnerable, he
Speaker 1: was already his momentum had stopped. And Perfect comes from
Speaker 1: the other side and cracks some helmet to helmet and
Speaker 1: knowing Perfects history and his um background when it comes
Speaker 1: to find and suspensions for dangerous play, you knew something
Speaker 1: was coming. Well it really did come. Perfect is done
Speaker 1: for the year. UH. Rap Sheet reported Uh that he
Speaker 1: has suspensed. He's been suspended for the rest of the
Speaker 1: season for his hit on Doyle. Rap Sheet reported Perfect
Speaker 1: will appeal the suspension, UH, and it interesting little note
Speaker 1: to this. The Raiders are in the United Kingdom UM
Speaker 1: this weekend for a game UM UH as part of
Speaker 1: the London series, and Perfect flew to London and just
Speaker 1: had to come right back to the United States because
Speaker 1: he ain't playing no MO, Well, isn't he free? To
Speaker 1: my question too? I think you guys over on our
Speaker 1: text SED was once you've landed in London and you
Speaker 1: no longer have a job to do between now and
Speaker 1: you know, at best next July or something, why not
Speaker 1: do what Ricky's doing when she does have a job
Speaker 1: and just vanished to Lisbon or points unknown and throughout Europe?
Speaker 1: Why are you flying back to Oakland? I think he
Speaker 1: could you get the free flight? You know free? You
Speaker 1: know you don't have to pay for it. I'm sure
Speaker 1: on the way back, so let's save a little money.
Speaker 1: Contest Perfect just clothes lining random tourists across Europe, UM
Speaker 1: John running in the NFL VP of Football Operations, UH.
Speaker 1: In a release following UH each of your previous rule violations,
Speaker 1: you were warned by me and each of the jointly
Speaker 1: appointed Appeal Officers that future violations would result in escalated
Speaker 1: accountability measures. However, you have continued to flavorant lye abuse
Speaker 1: rules designated to protect yourself and your opponents from unnecessary risk.
Speaker 1: Your extensive history of rules violations is factored into this decision.
Speaker 1: Uh and Frank Reich, the Colts coach, told reporters on Monday,
Speaker 1: he's just thankful the league took the action at did
Speaker 1: This goes back to college, where he had twenty two
Speaker 1: flagrant penalties in thirty seven games at Arizona State, which
Speaker 1: helped him slide through the two thousand twelve draft undrafted
Speaker 1: UH immediate almost immediately upon getting to the NFL. Two
Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen, he's fined for intentionally twisting the ankles
Speaker 1: of Cam Newton and Greg nold Olson after the play.
Speaker 1: He lines up Max Williams, former Ravens tight end for
Speaker 1: a terrible cheap shot in week seventeen, not long after
Speaker 1: lines up Antonio Brown for a cheap shot on the head.
Speaker 1: Once knocked out three Steelers for for the game in
Speaker 1: one season. This guy, I mean, he's just this is
Speaker 1: what he's done his whole career. He has He'll end
Speaker 1: up playing forty seven of a possible ninety six games
Speaker 1: since two thousand fourteen. He's unavailable to his team half
Speaker 1: the time. He uh is an important part of that defense,
Speaker 1: which is not very good at linebacker. He had been
Speaker 1: up and down to played pretty well this year, and
Speaker 1: they have to hear Whitehead. They had one of the
Speaker 1: hard knocks UH stars, Jason what was his name, Jason Cabinda.
Speaker 1: So they want to bring back now from Detroit, like
Speaker 1: they've cut some of these guys, and then another team
Speaker 1: picks him up and they have no depth. It is.
Speaker 1: It is a really bad defense that I think on
Speaker 1: a in a given week and get schemed up by
Speaker 1: a pretty good coordinator. But just talent wise, Mayok has
Speaker 1: not been able. Uh he hasn't at the time to
Speaker 1: fix everything that's going on on that side of the ball.
Speaker 1: They're in trouble. Also was flag twelve grand for flipping off.
Speaker 1: That's called using your middle finger Dan to the crowd,
Speaker 1: using the bird aimed at fans. Also against him. Once
Speaker 1: shoved a cameraman to the ground just because he happened
Speaker 1: to run into him and then he was still standing there, right.
Speaker 1: He didn't get the spending for this, and he got
Speaker 1: suspended for everything he's done in the NFL. For in
Speaker 1: terms of that it being this long. If if a
Speaker 1: different person had had this same hit, I think they
Speaker 1: might have been suspended. But it certainly it's like the
Speaker 1: reverse of the Academy Award that goes to someone for
Speaker 1: like their twelfth best movie, but they're almost done, and
Speaker 1: so you've got to get that thing. When Scorsese got
Speaker 1: Best Director for um, what was that Departed? Departed? That's
Speaker 1: a great movie, a very highly watchable movie, rewatchable movie,
Speaker 1: A nice a nice piece of work for Scorsese, but
Speaker 1: not anything close to his best work, which he never
Speaker 1: got honored for. Anyway, good Scorsese talk. I thought, we
Speaker 1: don't talk about this too much just because where can
Speaker 1: we go with it? But there were too many head
Speaker 1: shots in week four, too many shots to the head,
Speaker 1: too many guys leaving on stretchers, and I applaud anything
Speaker 1: that leads to more rejections, more suspensions. You gotta get
Speaker 1: it out of the game. And these guys are wearing
Speaker 1: helmets that are bigger than ever, harder than ever, and
Speaker 1: they're not afraid when they go in to make attack.
Speaker 1: They're not afraid of their own head. And I think
Speaker 1: start losing games, that's when coaches will pay attention and
Speaker 1: put a stop to this moving on. Terrible news for
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos, who as we know, are really scuffling
Speaker 1: this season oh and four, and now they lose one
Speaker 1: of their best players for the year. Pass rusher Bradley
Speaker 1: Chubb towards a c L was a partial tear of
Speaker 1: his a c L. He's out for the season. H
Speaker 1: James Palmer reported this on Monday. ESPN first had it.
Speaker 1: Vic Fonio confirmed it to reporters. Uh. Chub actually left
Speaker 1: the game multiple times against the Jaguars. Um came back,
Speaker 1: finished out the game with the knee injury. Came to
Speaker 1: the facility on Monday. It wasn't feeling right to get
Speaker 1: the m R. I and they get the bad news.
Speaker 1: It's also, I believe seven years to the day since
Speaker 1: Um the injury came UH, since he last tours a
Speaker 1: c L. So he's actually now torn the A c
Speaker 1: L twice in the same knee, which is obviously not
Speaker 1: great news for a set getting your player who's when right? UM,
Speaker 1: I don't know. The Broncos defense as a whole got
Speaker 1: off to a slow start, but Chub looked like a
Speaker 1: superstar once he got hot last year as a rookie,
Speaker 1: and his backup from last year is now leading the
Speaker 1: NFL and sacks for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Shaqu Barrett,
Speaker 1: I think a Vic vic fans, you didn't have bad luck,
Speaker 1: he'd have no luck at all. This this Broncos team
Speaker 1: is experiencing some like old school country music hard times
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, Chub is one of the guys you
Speaker 1: build around. He had such a good preseason. He had
Speaker 1: the fourth most votes predicting defensive Player of the Year
Speaker 1: on NFL dot Com. Three people picked him, only Kleil mcmiles,
Speaker 1: Garrett Aaron Donald had more, which is a little silly
Speaker 1: that he was two votes ahead of von Miller, But
Speaker 1: either way, that was like the expectations for this guy
Speaker 1: going into the year. And I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: there's there's worst teams like the Bengals and and Red
Speaker 1: Skins and the Dolphins, But I don't know if you
Speaker 1: know any fan base is more bummed out right now
Speaker 1: than Denver just because of how swift of fall it's
Speaker 1: been from their their championship on and just how hopeless
Speaker 1: it feels right now. That is a like deep, like
Speaker 1: father to son mother to daughter fan base. You do
Speaker 1: not like that, does not You don't become the child
Speaker 1: in Denver that suddenly roots for some other team that
Speaker 1: like I having lived there, that place is all about
Speaker 1: the Broncos from head to toe. And it was amazing
Speaker 1: to see Chubb making plays on the field after he
Speaker 1: hurt his knee in big plays. And that was Von
Speaker 1: Miller and Chubb gave you, no matter what the team's record,
Speaker 1: was an immediate identity that you'd focus any primetime game around.
Speaker 1: You'd spend thirty five forty minutes talking about Chubb and
Speaker 1: von Miller. And when that's gone by by the time
Speaker 1: you're heading into October and that coaching staff and Vick
Speaker 1: Fongio has got to be some of these dudes. I
Speaker 1: just wonder if they if he if he could reverse time,
Speaker 1: you'd say, put me back in that Chicago booth. I
Speaker 1: want to be back there. They're smoking my cigars as
Speaker 1: opposed to the Steelers. They lost their last dayn game
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars. And now to me, the Rancos are
Speaker 1: more interesting from like a human laboratory perspective, who's checking
Speaker 1: out under adversity the rest of the way, I like
Speaker 1: this with so we've we have the quarter and animal
Speaker 1: game at O and two. We've now established the last
Speaker 1: stand game from oh and three outfits. And you can
Speaker 1: see a last stand game when you watch the game,
Speaker 1: the emotion they're playing von Miller doing dances through the
Speaker 1: Jaguars offensive line when they get penalized and he's out
Speaker 1: there playing with like a ten percent intensity. Their whole
Speaker 1: defensive swarming and then men, she was an eleven minute
Speaker 1: drive and it all goes into Gardner Min Show breaks teams.
Speaker 1: But you can you can, Yeah, the Titans have just
Speaker 1: not been able to rebound from that that lashing he
Speaker 1: gave him the last stand game. Can that can happen
Speaker 1: anytime of the year though, right? I mean you could
Speaker 1: have a five and seven. Yes, I was about to
Speaker 1: say five and seven was the number that came to
Speaker 1: as well. Sometimes last stand games pop up different stretches
Speaker 1: of the season. Could have a December last stand game
Speaker 1: from a team that might have started out four and
Speaker 1: oh and is now I mean almost every team has one. However,
Speaker 1: a cornered animal game is specifically applied to O and
Speaker 1: two outfits. That must be made clear. What is an
Speaker 1: O N eight team trying to get their first win.
Speaker 1: What do we call that an I mean they've been
Speaker 1: dead for there's a smell coming off of that that's
Speaker 1: called like a huge Jackson game. Another star player out
Speaker 1: for the year Kwan Short the Panthers, the Panthers Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl defensive lineman who had missed each of the past
Speaker 1: two weeks after suffering a um rotator cuffed tear in
Speaker 1: his shoulder. While the Panthers decide this is not gonna
Speaker 1: work out, so they put him on the I r
Speaker 1: UH and he will miss the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: The Panthers have signed defensive lineman Brian Cox Junior. From
Speaker 1: the print is that the Brian Coxe's his son? Does
Speaker 1: he have the big pads in the back board? That uh?
Speaker 1: Brian Cox Junior from the practice squad to fill the
Speaker 1: spot on the active aust big loss there, Greg Massive.
Speaker 1: It's been under the radar that they've improved their defense
Speaker 1: last two games without him. It says something about the
Speaker 1: star power of this team that you can lose Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: Kawan Short and win two games and you still have
Speaker 1: guys like Christian McCaffrey and Luke Keikley, two of the
Speaker 1: best you know players going on their respective sides of
Speaker 1: the ball still on the field. Not many teams have
Speaker 1: like a top you know list like that, but this
Speaker 1: this is massive. He's been their best defensive player a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, behind Keikley for a long time. They've also
Speaker 1: hooked into the unbreakable trend at the moment that if
Speaker 1: you have a player named Shock on your roster, he's
Speaker 1: going to be electric. And Shack Thompson is coming off
Speaker 1: one of his best performances in a long time. But
Speaker 1: they you're right, you look up. Mario Addison never gets mentioned.
Speaker 1: Always productive. They have dudes, and they found a way
Speaker 1: to do sort of a soft reboot of that defense
Speaker 1: where you kept key guys around, but the secondary is
Speaker 1: look is a different casting. They're allowing the fewest yards
Speaker 1: per game in the NFL pass scene wise, they are
Speaker 1: tied for the Patriots for the most sacks in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and that's without kik Short for the last great news
Speaker 1: for international player program uh graduate f a Obada, who's
Speaker 1: been playing inside lately, was a big story last year
Speaker 1: and to kind of get some more snap A lot
Speaker 1: of hype around, a lot of buzz around the possibility
Speaker 1: that Maurice bow Ringer lingering somewhere right now Cincinnati still
Speaker 1: I believe so. Hasn't he hurt though as part of
Speaker 1: the halfway program? Uh? Whether he will continue to get
Speaker 1: that spotlight treatment from the Around the NFL podcast, It's
Speaker 1: an ongoing discussion internally, it will believe it at that
Speaker 1: For now, Well, there's other players to talk about. Yacob Johnson.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Patriots thought so much of them, they
Speaker 1: wouldn't even use that little special spot because they thought
Speaker 1: they might have to have him in the regular season.
Speaker 1: And who was making a big block on a key
Speaker 1: first down in the fourth quarter last week, Yacob Johnson.
Speaker 1: That Jacob, It's Jacob. At a certain point, Mobo is
Speaker 1: gonna have to come off scholarship. Mhm. Why does everything
Speaker 1: Why doesn't have to turn around and be negative? Why
Speaker 1: did can there just be because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of that happening from you.
Speaker 1: So Dan's Greg is afraid of Henry, and Henry's got
Speaker 1: a start cutting way about him. Most people are afraid
Speaker 1: of Henry. Yeah, and I friend, but I just I
Speaker 1: have to call a spade of spade and just point
Speaker 1: out that mobile can't be on scholarship forever. Henry directly
Speaker 1: scouted many of these international players and a lot of
Speaker 1: working out, so I would say overall, Henry's track record
Speaker 1: as a scout a pure player finder is strong. He's
Speaker 1: like the Steve Belichick of Europe. Jay Gruden, Uh, he's
Speaker 1: not ready to decide which quarterback will get destroyed by
Speaker 1: the Patriots this weekend. He's evaluating three quarterbacks ahead of
Speaker 1: the matchup against the defending Super Bowl champions, Case Keenum,
Speaker 1: who was yanked from Sunday's game against the Giants after
Speaker 1: a slow start. There's the first round rookie Dwayne Haskins,
Speaker 1: who looked like a total mess when he got his
Speaker 1: chance to play against the Giants. And then there's that boy,
Speaker 1: Mark's boy, Cult McCoy, the man who marked named one
Speaker 1: of his children after he is also in the mix.
Speaker 1: Uh if his leg allows that he has had that
Speaker 1: lingering leg injury. So J Gruden is just staring at
Speaker 1: a wall right now, trying to decide which men will
Speaker 1: be sacrifice to the football guys. I don't doubt that
Speaker 1: Cult McCoy on the whole would be as ready as
Speaker 1: Case keenom, if not more. In this offense where the
Speaker 1: coach likes him a lot. I think it's not exactly
Speaker 1: You're not exactly doing a favor to a player that's
Speaker 1: been through some uh strange issues with the team in
Speaker 1: terms of the way his physical health was treated, not
Speaker 1: the only one on that team with those concerns, and instead,
Speaker 1: you know, you're saying, welcome back. I'm now gonna put
Speaker 1: you into it completely broken down, dysfunctional offense that will
Speaker 1: ensure you endure a ton of punishment comes Sunday. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if I'm cult McCoy, I want to do that.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, he is. His career is
Speaker 1: long goer than anyone ever expected. He's a warrior. I
Speaker 1: think that you might not want to play if you
Speaker 1: were Culte McCoy. But Colte McCoy, that's not why you
Speaker 1: named your kid after. He wants to play. He just
Speaker 1: comps my comments saying I think he would want to Pyeah.
Speaker 1: I'm that's what I mean. This is it's an unwelcome
Speaker 1: scenario to throw a quarter absolutely, but talk about last
Speaker 1: stan Jay Gruden has been wanting to start Colte McCoy
Speaker 1: his entire run in Washington. He entered this offseason. I
Speaker 1: think right wanting to start Colte McCoy in Week one,
Speaker 1: that that was his preferred guy that he's kept around
Speaker 1: and he's running out of time. They're both running out
Speaker 1: of time. He knows it. You used to let your
Speaker 1: case Keenom flag fly. I mean, Jay Gruden, let your
Speaker 1: cult McCoy flag fly. He's the only one with a
Speaker 1: chance to beat the Patriots, who he would have before,
Speaker 1: would have if the Patriots up thirty four to ten
Speaker 1: and two, if I was gonna get an if I
Speaker 1: was going to give anyone a chance, it would be cool.
Speaker 1: Who question for the room? Who are West Martin and
Speaker 1: Robert Davis were there? There's some of the deep receivers
Speaker 1: on the team. These are Week four starters for the
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins, which fielded the worst offensive personnel we've seen
Speaker 1: all year, including the Miami Dolphins. You did not have
Speaker 1: Brandon Sheriff, Trent Williams, Jordan Read, Scary Terry all out
Speaker 1: the lineup. They are West Martins starting that guard. Robert
Speaker 1: Davis elevated from the practice squad, immediately made the number
Speaker 1: one receiver and then cut after the game. What is
Speaker 1: going on with this team? I would allow Greg to
Speaker 1: lock up New England against the Patriots. The Patriots against
Speaker 1: the Redskins, because the last time Colt McCoy faced them,
Speaker 1: he went fourteen for nineteen for a hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: four yards, ran for a long touchdown and Peyton hillis
Speaker 1: stomped over a totally confused Tom Brady led Patriots team
Speaker 1: for a hundred and eighty four yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Let's dial it up again. I'll take them. Of course,
Speaker 1: that was before Colt McCoy walked with a limp. Really,
Speaker 1: I don't know their point, but it was a long
Speaker 1: time ago. Now it was almost a decade. It's a decade.
Speaker 1: Who was on the cover of Madden Ones one, fair
Speaker 1: and square through a fan vote. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: the type of thing that wouldn't happen in two thousand nineteen.
Speaker 1: Beat out Michael. People wouldn't allow it. They just are like, no, no, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, this cannot happens. If you're talking about that
Speaker 1: West Martin, I think that everybody knows. I mean, they
Speaker 1: drafted him in the in the fourth round. They must
Speaker 1: see some promise, and that's just what I don't know.
Speaker 1: If I'm talking about the right guy. Are you talking
Speaker 1: about the guy that played college at Indiana and he
Speaker 1: was like, wow, fourth round guard, you got it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like three fifteen pounds if I'm remembering correctly. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the right guy. And this you,
Speaker 1: this fantasy show is right, really stepped up Ricky's game.
Speaker 1: Who has left their keys out for Ricky to go
Speaker 1: into the lab? She's allowed in him. Poor Marks still upstairs.
Speaker 1: That's fine, he's chilling at the poorhouse to myself. Finally,
Speaker 1: in the news, Adam Feeling has thoughts on the VI
Speaker 1: King's offense after UH Minnesota no showed an offense against
Speaker 1: the Mighty Bears defense. Uh Feeling express some frustration. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it was with the offensive philosophy
Speaker 1: or the guy who's supposed to be thrown in the ball.
Speaker 1: Let's listen it. Well, I think I think that's probably
Speaker 1: most frustrating thing is is we knew that that was
Speaker 1: gonna happen at some point. At some point, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to run the ball for a hunter, Um,
Speaker 1: even with the best running back in the NFL. UM,
Speaker 1: And that's when you have to be able to throw
Speaker 1: the ball. You have to be able to make plays. Um.
Speaker 1: You have to be able to um you know, hit
Speaker 1: the ball at the deep balls. You have to do
Speaker 1: that because otherwise it's too easy for changes tea up
Speaker 1: and rush the quarterback. So we have to be we
Speaker 1: have to be able to run the ball and pass
Speaker 1: the ball. In this league, you cannot be one to mention, well,
Speaker 1: it's just too easy to defend. It's odd to see
Speaker 1: Minnesota struggling at at this level. And of as lest
Speaker 1: you may remember, but shortly before the season started, I
Speaker 1: was very high in their offense. I thought they could
Speaker 1: really maybe even be a top five, top three, number
Speaker 1: one unit. But it's all gone totally to hell. And
Speaker 1: the one thing that has really jumped out to me
Speaker 1: that's has surprised me is that the one thing he
Speaker 1: could always count on, UH in a Kirk Cousins offense
Speaker 1: was he was gonna put up numbers and they were
Speaker 1: his team will move the football. That is what's disappeared
Speaker 1: here and that's been to me the most surprising thing.
Speaker 1: That you add Dalvin Cook into the mix, and we
Speaker 1: talked about it on Sunday. The offensive line obviously has issues, UH,
Speaker 1: but that they would be this inept. I just did
Speaker 1: not see this coming at all. It's fascinating to me.
Speaker 1: Cousins is a rhythm passer and he hasn't been in
Speaker 1: rhythm really since last October. And I think if you
Speaker 1: read between the lines with Adam Feeling, he at least
Speaker 1: he and maybe other players with the vikings have some
Speaker 1: issues with Kirk Cousins right now, and maybe he's not.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's that he's not pulling the trigger when the
Speaker 1: passes are there. And in Cousins defense, it's not often
Speaker 1: that the passes are there because his offensive line, the
Speaker 1: mixture of that offensive line, that system and Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: is it working. It's not a good thing. When Feeling
Speaker 1: in that same interview, was kind of asked, you know,
Speaker 1: what's the difference this year? You know with you guys,
Speaker 1: you know, not you know, getting as much separation, And
Speaker 1: the most telling thing is he immediately said, that's not
Speaker 1: what I see. I mean, he's he's saying he's open,
Speaker 1: And yeah, Cousins has been under pressure. There's a good article,
Speaker 1: uh in The Athletic yesterday about it. It hasn't been extreme.
Speaker 1: Watching that game, there were many plays where he did
Speaker 1: have time and there are deep throws. You know, you
Speaker 1: would think to give a shot to digs and dealing,
Speaker 1: and he did try a couple, he hit one, and
Speaker 1: he's instead checking the ball down, And I think that's
Speaker 1: the frustration. And when you have Mike Zimmer on Monday
Speaker 1: saying the same thing, you've got to pull the trigger
Speaker 1: when you're when you're talking about your quarterback that way,
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know, it's just well, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: there's bubbled over frustration. And there probably is an effect
Speaker 1: that you can't really measure scientifically on most quarterbacks outside
Speaker 1: of the most mentally tough, that if you've been damaged
Speaker 1: and battered and hurt for a season plus behind a line,
Speaker 1: you lose some trust for them. We've seen younger quarterbacks
Speaker 1: even earlier this year, after a game or two of that,
Speaker 1: not act the way you'd expect them to Aaron Rodgers doing.
Speaker 1: In the last couple of years. You develop bad habits. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: There's this one play where they do the boot action
Speaker 1: and and Cousins rolls out to his right and he
Speaker 1: had there's no one within twenty yards of him at
Speaker 1: that time, and he immediately like fires a fast ball
Speaker 1: over the middle. To his running back. I think it
Speaker 1: was c. J. Ham who was one yard past the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and he did it like right away
Speaker 1: and I and that's the type of play where you
Speaker 1: just it drives you crazy. I think if you're whenever c. J.
Speaker 1: Hamm is open though, you've got to get the ball
Speaker 1: to him, get it to him in space and watch
Speaker 1: the magic. That's that's the philosophy the football coaches the
Speaker 1: world over. That's what's happening in the news. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to it. Oh, I want to do a
Speaker 1: plug by the way, um, before we get to the
Speaker 1: power rankings. There's a new edition of the Mark Sessler
Speaker 1: Weekly Jam Out. It's called I'm blanking on it right now.
Speaker 1: Help me out. Mark on my radar, on my radar
Speaker 1: with Mark Sessler. Let's on your radar. Let's get that radar.
Speaker 1: Let's get that radar sound effect back ricky um, Mark,
Speaker 1: what's on your radar? What I wanted to hit on
Speaker 1: this as we talk all these dead animal teams and
Speaker 1: all these animals that are on the fast stand that
Speaker 1: can't get out of their own ways. Radar is work
Speaker 1: that works. Does around submarine have radar sonar? It depends
Speaker 1: how sounds studio catalog is, but I think that that
Speaker 1: gets the message across to some degree. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to look at some teams that have kind of changed
Speaker 1: the way I feel about them. A team like the Lions,
Speaker 1: where I first spent a decade plus thinking that they're
Speaker 1: like a raging bowl of vanilla ice cream and I
Speaker 1: can't wait to not watch them every week, and that
Speaker 1: changing my mind after one month raging bowl of an
Speaker 1: all right, I feel that way A little bit of
Speaker 1: obviously about the Jaguars with with Gardner Minshew, I thought
Speaker 1: the week four change changed the way I feel about
Speaker 1: the Browns from where I was a week ago, which
Speaker 1: was internal concern about them that there's some lights. So
Speaker 1: a couple of teams that in week four changed kind
Speaker 1: of build some stock. Understanding the hook now of the
Speaker 1: weekly column on My Radar by Mark Sessler that typically
Speaker 1: when we use the phrase on my radar on this show,
Speaker 1: it's for negative reasons, but that is the beauty the
Speaker 1: subversive nature of on my Radar with Mark Sessler, that
Speaker 1: it's positive rates. Well, radar is something you're seeing. You
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a friendly craft or a or
Speaker 1: a you know, probably have some negative radars, but they're
Speaker 1: depinitely more positive over well. I have also learned that
Speaker 1: you know when you're when you're when you're offering one
Speaker 1: of these things a week, that if you go super negative,
Speaker 1: it's just it tends to disappear in the mix from
Speaker 1: the social selling points. So if you can pump up
Speaker 1: a couple of things. But I also think it's early
Speaker 1: in the year and I've not gone totally cynical yet,
Speaker 1: that will happen. I think this will get very a
Speaker 1: very grim weekly piece. It was very positive ties in
Speaker 1: directly again with the Cleveland Browns making you happy on
Speaker 1: Sunday and that all filters out. So if we got
Speaker 1: another big Browns victory on Monday night, I bet on
Speaker 1: my radar is gonna be another Well I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be writing about them every week, then it's that looks ridiculous.
Speaker 1: What about the head you know? What about the journalism
Speaker 1: saying if it bleeds, it leads? I never heard that
Speaker 1: negative dot com not me. The NFL game Pass COVID
Speaker 1: got together, we convene and rendered a verdict on the lines.
Speaker 1: They've been upgraded from frisky that just playing fun and
Speaker 1: I'm fresh out of caveats with this tight stick, a
Speaker 1: pin and a because we're gonna get to the lines
Speaker 1: here in the Power rankings were a quarter of the
Speaker 1: way through the season. Quarter pole. It is a thing.
Speaker 1: If you say it's a thing, it's a thing. So
Speaker 1: don't tell us it's not a thing. Quarter Pole. Uh so,
Speaker 1: let's check in with the the old juicer who has
Speaker 1: authored every Tuesday since the beginning of really since the
Speaker 1: middle of the preseason Power. What person is this you're
Speaker 1: checking in with yourself? It's like seventh person. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that is. To be very quiet, I'll be
Speaker 1: in the clearing. We have the incredibly in a film Networks.
Speaker 1: I'm lonely, so oh scanned it away. Yeah. So Dan
Speaker 1: did a really nice job putting together You know he's
Speaker 1: doing the work and you could tell, but I feel bad.
Speaker 1: You're setting us up in a nice way. What you
Speaker 1: could have asked one of us to gingerly do the same.
Speaker 1: I have no problem doing it. For my words, comfortable
Speaker 1: doing this A lot of work. You could us the
Speaker 1: first person like a normally a lot of effort. Dan
Speaker 1: is really putting in the work, and you're seeing that
Speaker 1: on the paper and it's everyone wins. So let's dig
Speaker 1: into it. Uh. We'll go through essentially breaking into tens,
Speaker 1: A ten, ten, twelve, start with the top ten and
Speaker 1: I'll point out uh and you can check this out
Speaker 1: at NFL dot com slash power rankings. UM, Patriots in
Speaker 1: chiefs one too. I think if you look at power
Speaker 1: rankings across the universe, and there are millions of them,
Speaker 1: but there was only one on NFL dot com, Uh,
Speaker 1: everyone will have the same two things get trickier in
Speaker 1: the top ten after that. UM. I I was really
Speaker 1: sold by the Saints performance on Sunday night and uh,
Speaker 1: and just how great they've been, uh the last two
Speaker 1: weeks as a team. And I have them all the
Speaker 1: way up to three, the Cowboys dropping one spot after
Speaker 1: losing to the Saints. Uh, and then I moved the
Speaker 1: Bears to number five. Uh, move them up three spots,
Speaker 1: and that is a testament just the dominant level of
Speaker 1: their defense. Anybody have an issue with the top five here? No,
Speaker 1: I sort of like. I think it shows where philosophies
Speaker 1: can differ but still make a lot of sense. Regardless.
Speaker 1: I think if the Saints and Cowboys played seven times
Speaker 1: on the neutral field. I would trust the Cowboys more.
Speaker 1: But the Saints have earned this. They went into Seattle
Speaker 1: and then they beat Dallas and they've earned this. I
Speaker 1: get it. But they probably wouldn't be in my top ten, uh,
Speaker 1: the Saints. The Saints would not. You know, they won
Speaker 1: a game and see they've won. There's a difference I
Speaker 1: think between like a great football story and you're getting
Speaker 1: wins and that's important, uh for the rest of your
Speaker 1: season and looking good as a team. I don't think
Speaker 1: they've looked that good as a team. The offense has
Speaker 1: had three of the worst performances of the Sean Payton era.
Speaker 1: They weren't competitive against Los Angeles, they were doubled. They
Speaker 1: didn't look like the better team in Seattle. I mean
Speaker 1: they want, they're resourceful, and that's terrific, and the home
Speaker 1: performance is impressive. I went to check football Outside if
Speaker 1: I'm just curious what their efficiency is. I was guessing
Speaker 1: wouldn b I They have him as the twenty one
Speaker 1: best team in the league right now and then, which
Speaker 1: obviously seems a little harsh. But I don't look at
Speaker 1: them other than they're solving early season problems and think
Speaker 1: this is a good Saints team. Well, I think they
Speaker 1: have an offensive problem going back to last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they have a bigger problem with Teddy Bridgewater at quarterback.
Speaker 1: That problem is ample defense played unbelievable on on Sunday Night.
Speaker 1: If that's a sign of things that come, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot better. But they've had some line issues.
Speaker 1: They're not deep. I mean, they have the star power,
Speaker 1: but they don't have the debt. Even Withdrew Brees back.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't see them as a topic. See Dan, I
Speaker 1: think you're dealing with no matter what you did at three,
Speaker 1: you can make an argument for someone else because there
Speaker 1: is no clear cut and other This is true untrue
Speaker 1: of other seasons. There's no third or fourth dominant or
Speaker 1: pressing to be dominant. The Cowboys probably would have been
Speaker 1: my choice, But there's a team at six, and you
Speaker 1: get to it. That's who I would have put into
Speaker 1: the top five over some of these others. Uh one,
Speaker 1: let's get to that in one moment, Mark, But you
Speaker 1: would put the Cowboys ahead of the Saints. After the
Speaker 1: I would put the Cowboys, the Eagles, the Rams, the Packers,
Speaker 1: I put them all ahead of the Saints. All right,
Speaker 1: let's yeah, let's check in out. So in the top ten,
Speaker 1: I have the two AFC teams and the eight NFC
Speaker 1: tas right now. I just can't figure out what's going
Speaker 1: on in the a f C right now. But the
Speaker 1: Eagles I have them. I moved them all the way
Speaker 1: up to six because the rest of the team's that
Speaker 1: I got. I got Niners at seven, and I'm giving
Speaker 1: them a little bit of a lollipop because they're undefeated.
Speaker 1: That they got the undefeated lollipop, but they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to win again to stay there. Uh, the Rams at eight,
Speaker 1: dropping them five spots, the Packers at nine, and I'm
Speaker 1: closing out the Seahawks attend h Mark, you would have
Speaker 1: the Eagles higher. I I, well, so, I don't know
Speaker 1: how when you're if you're saying this is this is
Speaker 1: as of last you know, Sunday nor Monday night, this
Speaker 1: is where I'm ranking them. Fine. For me, I look
Speaker 1: at the Eagles overall holistically and say, I totally believe
Speaker 1: in this team. They've been through a ton of nonsense
Speaker 1: injury wise. Early on, I thought that was a huge
Speaker 1: win on Thursday night football in a tough environment to play.
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna win that game, and they did.
Speaker 1: And I believe that the Eagles will be there at
Speaker 1: the end of the year, minutes away from the NFC
Speaker 1: title game, no matter what happens record wise through all
Speaker 1: of this, and I would take them personally. The Bears
Speaker 1: defense best in the league, maybe right there with New England,
Speaker 1: but I would take the Eagles as an operation over
Speaker 1: the Bears in a second if I could own one
Speaker 1: of the teams and hope to have the ride. I
Speaker 1: think there's real concerns about their defense and that you
Speaker 1: might not get you know, you get him during again
Speaker 1: back and eventually Darby back. They're just haven't even looked
Speaker 1: great on they don't look as balanced. I'm with you
Speaker 1: for the most part, and I think this is where
Speaker 1: I put him to Dan and agree with what Mark's sane.
Speaker 1: But I think there's a bigger concern than previous years
Speaker 1: that their defense is just that they're not balanced, that
Speaker 1: the offense is going to be better. They're not even
Speaker 1: balanced on defense. They stopped the run and they're terrible
Speaker 1: against the past. I just think that that that they're
Speaker 1: going to be more than the some of their parts
Speaker 1: a little bit, and they're gonna win a playoff game.
Speaker 1: Maybe they shouldn't against on the road, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: just be at the edge right there at the end.
Speaker 1: Let's make the case for the Niners. Though you said
Speaker 1: you're giving them a lollipopham. Their fans could say, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're number two in efficiency right now in d v
Speaker 1: O A. Our defense has played lights out three straight weeks.
Speaker 1: You know, opponents are crucial in that, I get it. Uh.
Speaker 1: They played Mason Rudolph and they did a good job
Speaker 1: against the Bucks in week one, they played the Bengals. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then they have a chance to be explosive on offense.
Speaker 1: Hasn't always been there, but you've got a great play caller.
Speaker 1: Just on what they've done, they've been pretty impressive. Monday
Speaker 1: Night is a fascinating game. But with them in the Browns,
Speaker 1: the by is so annoying because you want to see
Speaker 1: more from them. You want to see and the fact
Speaker 1: that the Niners and Jets both shut it down. It
Speaker 1: was actually good for the Jets, but for the Niners,
Speaker 1: you want to see more from them because they've been
Speaker 1: very intriguing. Uh. In the in the middle of the
Speaker 1: power rankings, there are two teams I want to point
Speaker 1: out the Browns, who I have at fourteen, up seven
Speaker 1: spots from last week. UM. We hit on it a
Speaker 1: little bit at the end of the Sunday Flagship program
Speaker 1: West that, UM, who do you really who can you
Speaker 1: vouch for and and pound the table for? Is the
Speaker 1: third team in the a f C. And I look
Speaker 1: at the Browns with their upside potential and how high
Speaker 1: their ceiling is, and the Texans, a team that's trying
Speaker 1: to figure some things out right now it feels like,
Speaker 1: but can get hot at any moment. I believe those
Speaker 1: are the two teams that I would point to say
Speaker 1: I would be most confident in them becoming maybe not powerhouses,
Speaker 1: but real strong teams that can put a scare into
Speaker 1: the top two teams in the a f C. I
Speaker 1: would have both of those teams you mentioned, the Browns
Speaker 1: and the Texans over the Chargers, which you have ranked twelve,
Speaker 1: two spots higher than the Browns. I just haven't been
Speaker 1: impressed with the Chargers. Do have looked terrible to me?
Speaker 1: I think they can't. They have the pieces to get better.
Speaker 1: But I'm with you and uh, I think the Browns.
Speaker 1: To me, I've noticed that with each year the NFL community,
Speaker 1: The overreaction to each week's swing gets more and more
Speaker 1: pronounced every year, and the Browns are this week's prime
Speaker 1: example of the prisoner of the moment team. You know,
Speaker 1: before they beat the Ravens, they were a bumbling, stumbling,
Speaker 1: can't do anything right, will never overcome their offensive line.
Speaker 1: Their head coaches in over his head, Their players are
Speaker 1: buying into their hype. They're a joke. We can't stand them.
Speaker 1: Why are they on TV? Why does Baker have many
Speaker 1: commercials carry every Everything's wrong roll? Hall of Fame? Is
Speaker 1: that even real? Now that you've been a Ravens team
Speaker 1: that was picking on lesser lights early in the season,
Speaker 1: and we're calling, you know, the Browns the third best
Speaker 1: team in the a f C just because of one
Speaker 1: week's data, And I think you need to be anchored
Speaker 1: by more data than that. But I agree that the
Speaker 1: Browns are probably right in the middle of the pack,
Speaker 1: slightly above average, and their talent is even better than
Speaker 1: slightly a bit. I think some of that overreactions because
Speaker 1: of the sample size is so small, and Cleveland legitimately
Speaker 1: looked like a different team than they had on offense,
Speaker 1: but it felt like a Flukey game because they had
Speaker 1: three plays over sixty yards, you know, where a lot
Speaker 1: of it was the defense having breakdowns. Now the defense
Speaker 1: has been really solid, and and you asked this, Dan,
Speaker 1: I think it was off Mike. You know, who would
Speaker 1: you pick as the third a f C team like
Speaker 1: like you just mentioned, I think West And I did
Speaker 1: say the Browns just long term because I like the
Speaker 1: makeup that they'll figure it out right now. If you
Speaker 1: were just basing strictly on we've seen, I think it
Speaker 1: would be the Bills because I kind of know who
Speaker 1: they are, and people coming out of that Bill's Patriots
Speaker 1: games saying, oh that, you know, the Patriots have one
Speaker 1: of the best defensive all time. I mean, they weren't
Speaker 1: the best defense on the field. The Bill's defense is fantastic,
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds making the damn me and I kind of
Speaker 1: know who they are. Maybe their upside isn't that high,
Speaker 1: but I think they're They're gonna be really tough to
Speaker 1: deal with them. It's interesting you're saying that and you
Speaker 1: put them first out of those teams. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I certainly respect them and think they can make noise,
Speaker 1: But you're so down on Josh Allen right now, and
Speaker 1: you you're you're you've been leading with charge saying he's
Speaker 1: really not making as much progress as people think. Well,
Speaker 1: if that's your starting quarterback, definitely gets back from that.
Speaker 1: There's also more to playing quarters and passing the ball
Speaker 1: with touch. I mean, that's a huge part of it.
Speaker 1: But I think when Gregg's talking about Josh Hollen not
Speaker 1: getting better, you still have the factor in what he
Speaker 1: does as a runner. Yeah, when he's not knocking himself out.
Speaker 1: But you're right, it is a it's a good point,
Speaker 1: Dan that it totally caps their upside. It's just I
Speaker 1: feel like I I tweeted something about they have a
Speaker 1: lot of gimmes on their schedule, so I think they
Speaker 1: have a good chance to make the playoffs, and then
Speaker 1: but everyone responded, Okay, well that's only eight wins if
Speaker 1: you count those gimmes. And I look at the Bills
Speaker 1: is they're gonna be in every game. So all these
Speaker 1: games against the Browns and the Texans and the Chargers
Speaker 1: that they have, I give them a good chance to
Speaker 1: win half of those games. They can get to ten wins.
Speaker 1: I mean, to start the way they did that carries
Speaker 1: at least one or two playoff teams a year. I
Speaker 1: could be wrong. I've been over excited about Bills teams
Speaker 1: early in the season. I think their defense is legitimate,
Speaker 1: and you know, when you watch the Bears and the Patriots,
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing what continuity does for a team,
Speaker 1: and those guys have been playing together for a long time.
Speaker 1: The cores of all three of those defenses, that's a
Speaker 1: great point. Bills, pant Panthers are two more. I count,
Speaker 1: and it's easy to count because it's basically count the
Speaker 1: winless teams, dead ass teams UM, Bengals, Broncos, Cardinals, Jets, Redskins, Dolphins.
Speaker 1: So forget about them. But in that in the twenties,
Speaker 1: I'm going ask you guys a question. So you got
Speaker 1: the Colts, I have a twenty the Bucks twenty one,
Speaker 1: the Tycoons of twenty two, the Giants of twenty three,
Speaker 1: the Raiders of twenty four, and the Falcons at twenty five.
Speaker 1: The Steelers ay six, What is which of those teams
Speaker 1: are you most confident will get hot, get on a run,
Speaker 1: and be playing in January. Pittsburgh Steelers. Wow. But I've
Speaker 1: come around a bit on the Bucks, and I know
Speaker 1: I I jumped on you and you you know after
Speaker 1: they beat a bad Giants team. Um, and I really
Speaker 1: don't think the Rams are a good team, but I
Speaker 1: did think they're defense. Unfortunately for the Bucks have my attention.
Speaker 1: They're making plays on defense. Winston is playing well, but
Speaker 1: the offensive line has really exceeded my expectations. And Ronald
Speaker 1: Jones is running like a man possessed. He is my
Speaker 1: new like Dalton scale for running backs. If you're not
Speaker 1: playing better than Ronald Jones, what I mean he was?
Speaker 1: He was way other than Todd Gurley in that game.
Speaker 1: M I mean he might be above the Dalton scale
Speaker 1: he has. I just used him for like, hey, why
Speaker 1: can't you get extra yards? When I just saw Ronald
Speaker 1: Jones get extra He embarrassed John Johnson, our former guest
Speaker 1: on this on one play, on a couple of plays,
Speaker 1: but one actually that was called back by penalty, but
Speaker 1: he just unpants him. I still buy into the cults.
Speaker 1: I still buy into them. Bucks would be Bucks would
Speaker 1: be my choice. I know I've wanted to see if
Speaker 1: the Tytoons are gonna suck anybody in after that. I
Speaker 1: don't waste a lot of verbal uh energy on the Titans,
Speaker 1: because I agree with Dan that it's a week to
Speaker 1: week proposition and it's it's too much to deal with.
Speaker 1: I need to see a six weeks stretch where they
Speaker 1: play with no letdown games in that six weeks. Well,
Speaker 1: I I as someone who's been over excited about the
Speaker 1: Bucks like you have been with the Titans, I guess
Speaker 1: we're just extending out our quarterback argument into the teams.
Speaker 1: I want to see the Bucks these next two weeks
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, and then we'll see him in London
Speaker 1: against the Panthers too. Tough division games. They've just been
Speaker 1: so different, like great on defense the first two weeks,
Speaker 1: great on offense the next two weeks. I wanna you
Speaker 1: gotta at least split these two games to stay right
Speaker 1: in the mix. I think it's only fair. I will
Speaker 1: suggest this to Mark and maybe he'll agree with me
Speaker 1: that Bruce arians and his staff have earned the right
Speaker 1: to put a stop to all jokes that he's just
Speaker 1: uh already regretting taking that job. Well, no, I've moved
Speaker 1: that over to Vic Fonio because and that happened all
Speaker 1: on Sunday, Because it happened midway through the third quarter
Speaker 1: at half time, you were still saying Arians didn't want
Speaker 1: to be there. There is there is something about Arians
Speaker 1: where I feel like a little bit of air has
Speaker 1: been let out of the balloon. In terms of the
Speaker 1: Arians that I once loved. He just seems a little
Speaker 1: bit annoyed. But when you go and drop fifty five
Speaker 1: points of franchise high on a RAMS team that was
Speaker 1: looked completely beguiled for half the game, you're probably happier,
Speaker 1: all right. I kind of think he got wind of
Speaker 1: this and I helped him out eat this fifty burger.
Speaker 1: I know you don't like meet Sessler, Shove it down
Speaker 1: your gullet. If fifty five burger should actually be rounded
Speaker 1: up to a sixty burger, him sixty burger. He turned
Speaker 1: sixty seven years old on Thursday. What if it's just, hey,
Speaker 1: he's accomplished more than he ever expected in life. He's
Speaker 1: just a little more at ease with him. Not as
Speaker 1: much fire, but you don't need the fire. Doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you're not doing it as good. A good job. Maybe
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he still isn't going for a legacy grab.
Speaker 1: By the way, don't forget about the number twenty three
Speaker 1: team on Dan's rankings. The old Zeuser working their way
Speaker 1: up and they get the Vikings in total panic mode
Speaker 1: coming into the meadow ends on Sunday. Feels like good
Speaker 1: timing to get the Vikings or bad timing. How things
Speaker 1: can play this article. They were previously ranked number twenty three,
Speaker 1: and they're ranked again at twenty three, So they're not
Speaker 1: what the team took care business at home. But you
Speaker 1: just described him as coming up as it's the winds
Speaker 1: of change are blowing. But they got beat the Vikings.
Speaker 1: I'll hang tight till next week. I'm all in on
Speaker 1: the Giants. If they beat the Vikings for a third
Speaker 1: straight win, well, I hope, you know, I hope you'll
Speaker 1: be all out on the Vikings if that happens too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, they'd be in the dead ass group potentially. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's the Battle of the Battle of Kansas Sunday. We
Speaker 1: might have to draft that game and you'll find out
Speaker 1: on Thursday. All right, before we go, let's um preview
Speaker 1: Thursday Night football. The Los Angeles Rams, who I believe
Speaker 1: West just said almost casually, are not a good team.
Speaker 1: Not a good football team, travel to Seattle the clink
Speaker 1: in prime time? Who wins in Seattle? In prime time. Well,
Speaker 1: the Rams are gonna have to try to do it
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks. Uh. Rams. The last few years in
Speaker 1: prime time, one of those up at the clink, one
Speaker 1: of those for sure they clinched. Was like there was
Speaker 1: also like the Jeff Fisher special when he pulled out.
Speaker 1: There's like nine to seven wins where Russell Wilson and
Speaker 1: a complete anomaly would be sacked like twelve times. Anyway,
Speaker 1: this is a great uh, great Thursday night game, great
Speaker 1: division UH rivalry. UH and Mark, this is a game
Speaker 1: you'll watch. Oh, this is a This is a I've
Speaker 1: watched every Thursday night game. The Bengal Steelers game tested
Speaker 1: my patients and I eventually had to say goodbye to
Speaker 1: that one. But this one, forget about it. This is
Speaker 1: actually great for Thursday too because division rivals don't need
Speaker 1: as much time to familiarize themselves. And Seattle is one
Speaker 1: of these teams. I don't know where they were in
Speaker 1: the rankings. I trust them to be there at the end.
Speaker 1: All I do. They fit well at number ten. They
Speaker 1: belong there, and they are not a perfect team. But
Speaker 1: when you plug in a guy like Jaenevian Clowney and
Speaker 1: he is making impact plays every week. I know that
Speaker 1: Chris Carson is someone that obviously would have lost some
Speaker 1: coaches trust, but they got a nice game out of
Speaker 1: him last week. Russell Wilson statistically is at the best
Speaker 1: he's been in every category. In an offense where I
Speaker 1: thought they were going to run the ball two and
Speaker 1: forty times a week, he is playing in an m
Speaker 1: v P level. Greg, you mentioned that I don't trust
Speaker 1: the Rams right now at all. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what they I just don't know what they are after
Speaker 1: the buffet locking it up, I'm this is a kind
Speaker 1: of game that I would really like to lock. But
Speaker 1: if I lose my lock on Thursday night, either one
Speaker 1: of two things happened, I totally forget about it. But
Speaker 1: on Sunday or it it absolutely cast an ominous globe
Speaker 1: over the entire weekend. So I'm gonna think on my
Speaker 1: radar column if Mark Yeah, I would to go right
Speaker 1: at that team that cost me. It's it's a matchup
Speaker 1: where two units I think that want to play a
Speaker 1: lot better go against each other. In terms of the
Speaker 1: Seahawks pass rush and then the Rams past protection, the
Speaker 1: Seahawks pass rush hasn't been nearly as bad. The Rams
Speaker 1: are dead last in Pro Football focuses past protection grades.
Speaker 1: So Rob Havnstein, who was pretty good for a few years,
Speaker 1: is dead last that tackle through an injury. There two
Speaker 1: guards are ranked right near the bottom. They're all Pro
Speaker 1: left tackle. Andrew Whitworth has been fine, but he hasn't
Speaker 1: been the dominant guy. And so that's why Jared Goff
Speaker 1: is making these mistakes. I swear Jared Goff. If you
Speaker 1: just if you just counted the number of great throws
Speaker 1: each quarterbacks made this year, he's near the top. He's
Speaker 1: also just made a ton of mistakes and he's not
Speaker 1: a guy maybe that's gonna thrive with pressure on it
Speaker 1: too real quick to your point, the PFF has five
Speaker 1: of six Rams lineman from that last Bucks game ranked
Speaker 1: in the deep red negative twelve or below category. That
Speaker 1: is hard to do in a single game, five out
Speaker 1: of six. It's fascinating matchup the UH. There was a
Speaker 1: great segment from Steve Wish on the Aftermath show Monday
Speaker 1: breaking down the book that is out there now on
Speaker 1: how to stop the Rams, and a lot of teams
Speaker 1: are going to a six one defensive front, six six
Speaker 1: defensive Lineman's stop Todd Gurley on early downs, take away
Speaker 1: the off tackle runs denied Brandon Cooks or vertical routes.
Speaker 1: Make Golf throw more and forty times from the pocket
Speaker 1: instead of doing boot action, rollout play action, make him
Speaker 1: play quarterback instead of holding mcveigh's hands. And now you're
Speaker 1: stopping the Rams because this guy, I believe had a
Speaker 1: thirty seven to seven TDed interception ratio on early downs
Speaker 1: through his first twenty eight games. It is six to
Speaker 1: seven on early downs in the most recent eleven games.
Speaker 1: They are not getting it done on third downs because
Speaker 1: teams are taking away first and second down. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if they could do that if Todd Gurley was
Speaker 1: still Todd Gurley. And I know the game script got
Speaker 1: banged against the Bucks as they fell behind and we're
Speaker 1: trying to play catch up, which led to how many passes,
Speaker 1: but Todd Gurley got five carries. Well, part of if
Speaker 1: if you watch a game, part of that is because
Speaker 1: the offensive line was penalized almost every time in the
Speaker 1: first quarter when they try to run play I mean
Speaker 1: five or sixteen yards and Gurley after the game, I
Speaker 1: don't call the players bro. He also doesn't fall start.
Speaker 1: This is a big, big game. I love it. This
Speaker 1: feels like maybe it's just the flip to October Week five,
Speaker 1: feels a little meteor. This feels like the first like
Speaker 1: big game of the year. I don't know that that
Speaker 1: we've seen enough of these two teams. I like what
Speaker 1: you've seen out at Seattle, getting a little bit better
Speaker 1: each week there. I don't know if they're overachieving on defense,
Speaker 1: but they're doing well with what they have and l
Speaker 1: a the defending NFC champs in a big spot. They
Speaker 1: can either put the NFC West right back to where
Speaker 1: it's been. Basically, hey, this is our division, or it's
Speaker 1: suddenly this pretty cool three team race where the forty
Speaker 1: Niners and the Seahawks are both ahead of them. The
Speaker 1: Desert Sees that sees this game is essentially as a
Speaker 1: pick them, and it's really let's pick this game because
Speaker 1: this is this is a real toss up for me.
Speaker 1: On one hand, I do love the idea of the
Speaker 1: Seahawks at home, Russell Wilson, like we said, playing as
Speaker 1: well as he is, Chris Carson running the ball well
Speaker 1: when he's not fumbling it, and then you have the Rams,
Speaker 1: who are probably pretty tied after what happened last week,
Speaker 1: and they got a great coaching staff and Steve Weich
Speaker 1: made great points, but also Sean McVeigh we're told as
Speaker 1: a genius, so you know this is the is the
Speaker 1: same thing too, and he's gonna try to make adjustments, uh,
Speaker 1: perhaps as soon as Thursday. So for that reason, I
Speaker 1: think I'll pick the Rams to a bit of a
Speaker 1: statement win, uh for l A, who have not played
Speaker 1: very well this season, but perhaps this will be their
Speaker 1: coming out party. But I could easily see it going
Speaker 1: the other way as well. Guys, how about everyone else
Speaker 1: on the podcast? First time you guys are talking, you
Speaker 1: know us in our track, you made some good points
Speaker 1: and I've lost so much faith in the Rams that
Speaker 1: I would of course pick against them, Yeah, on the
Speaker 1: road in a short week. But I don't know. I
Speaker 1: feel like I've been doing too much reacting off of
Speaker 1: the previous week. In my picks so far, Less and
Speaker 1: I are combined O and eight in our locks so far.
Speaker 1: I'm in my own at right now, and maybe I
Speaker 1: should just pick the Rams because you don't do it,
Speaker 1: because they'll smart if we know that there's a book
Speaker 1: on the Rams, and he must know, but that's that
Speaker 1: book is written by Vic Fonio, and we four teen
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, that's There's been a couple of
Speaker 1: good articles about it. The Bears had the blueprint, the
Speaker 1: Eagles basically copied it and did a good job in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and the Patriots did a lot of similar
Speaker 1: things in the Super Bowl. And other than the Panthers,
Speaker 1: almost every team they've played this year has done something similar.
Speaker 1: I thought, isn't that the book? And how much is
Speaker 1: this Todd Gurley is just a shadow of what he
Speaker 1: was and and the lines not as good. If I
Speaker 1: was a Rams fan, I'd take encouragement from the offensive
Speaker 1: performance against Tampa. You know, those those interceptions that he had.
Speaker 1: One he got just confused on. One was a tip
Speaker 1: um one, you know he he made he made a
Speaker 1: mistake under pressure, like they were big plays, but they
Speaker 1: moved the ball. They moved the ball really from the
Speaker 1: first drive on. But he couldn't run and against the
Speaker 1: team just trying not to mess up a huge lead.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm taking the Rams wow three for
Speaker 1: the Rams mark set, all right, That's why I did.
Speaker 1: I didn't jump in I'd see I'm thinking like a producer.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be good to go back and forth.
Speaker 1: Rams stop it up. It was like I was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go with that, nothing like a podcaster.
Speaker 1: Let's just stay right there, like I'm going Seattle, and
Speaker 1: I'm soft locking it for right now because i may
Speaker 1: change my opinion while I'm allowed to change. It's unlocking
Speaker 1: it for now, and I'm black locks. I think Seattle's
Speaker 1: defense cannot wait for this, so it could be easily picked.
Speaker 1: And when you've got a guy on your defense. And
Speaker 1: Michael Kendricks who was nailed for insider trading, everyone thought
Speaker 1: he'd be out of the league. He's back in kicking,
Speaker 1: but I want to do insider trading if like a
Speaker 1: two weeks slap on the wrist. Apparently, well he's back.
Speaker 1: He's part of the defense that I think is gonna
Speaker 1: win this game. They're gonna take it four in six.
Speaker 1: In fairness, it really seemed like his friend basically did
Speaker 1: it all and used his money. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: know the details. It seems like it's not that bad
Speaker 1: of a thing to do with. Becky's gonna get the
Speaker 1: electric chair for you know, getting her kid into college.
Speaker 1: And we got people getting thrown in the slammer for
Speaker 1: like a week for insider trading. I think it's because
Speaker 1: I think what happens is most people don't understand what
Speaker 1: insider trading is, including myself, So you don't sounds bad,
Speaker 1: you don't cling to it. But when like the actress
Speaker 1: like shoves her daughter into a college and everyone feels
Speaker 1: there's a lamb of justice, well everyone can jump on
Speaker 1: that story and you understand it. That's why I don't
Speaker 1: put her in the chair over it. I'm not the judge.
Speaker 1: How about the public shame? Isn't that enough? I don't
Speaker 1: make the decision. Someone else will. Okay, maybe she does
Speaker 1: belong to go there. We'll be back Thursday with a
Speaker 1: preview of all the week five games, and then there
Speaker 1: will be a mini pod featuring Dan Hansas and Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: Like this new thing completely disconnected now that reality I know.
Speaker 1: It just feels even more distant now, like I'm drifting
Speaker 1: away for myself. Somehow, Mark and I will uh handle
Speaker 1: the Thursday night recap of that very compelling game in Seattle.
Speaker 1: Uh And finally, yes, thank you to the fans in London,
Speaker 1: like we can our careers could go in the toilet
Speaker 1: um tomorrow over. You know something that Mark says that
Speaker 1: gets magnified and we get canceled. That could happen and
Speaker 1: they'll never be able to take away that. We have
Speaker 1: a show that's sold out in less than sixty seconds.
Speaker 1: That's all you need is that that That is a
Speaker 1: huge career accomplishment. I don't care if there's four people
Speaker 1: packed into the venue that sold out quickly. It's a
Speaker 1: testament to the hard work of us as a group
Speaker 1: and the amazing fans overseas. If you ever get a
Speaker 1: Wikipedia page, it will be in the first pair, sang,
Speaker 1: it better be in that first graph, right in the lead.
Speaker 1: If your career goes down the toilet, does the person
Speaker 1: you continue to refer to today in the third person?
Speaker 1: Is he still safe? I believe so. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: It's a little confusing. All right, let us head of Ricky.
Speaker 1: It's your accomplishment as well. Thank you very much, Dan
Speaker 1: Dan hands is signing up for Dan ranzas Uh, The
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the mail Man, the Old Boss, and Ricky
Speaker 1: Ally went behind the glass until Thursday m HM.