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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast Love to Google Cornhole? Wait what?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined in

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Speaker 1: the room failed with heroes Mark Sesler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg Roshal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? What? What? What? Mark? What?

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Speaker 1: Gave me a look? I'm not gonna the listener does

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Speaker 1: not need to know what that was about. That's inside baseball?

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Speaker 1: You mean football? Yeah, he says site baseball is one

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Speaker 1: of those archaic terms attached to a dying sport that

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna allow it to continue to grasp onto a right,

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Speaker 1: a nice little baseball dig in there again. Marcus spent

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Speaker 1: most of this week complaining that all sports, the seasons

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Speaker 1: are too long, regular seasons and in what I've literally

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Speaker 1: every sport now he has the same conversation. I used

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Speaker 1: to be baseball, but now he's moved on to basketball,

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Speaker 1: all sports he doesn't watch it. Well. I found it

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Speaker 1: interesting that he really really dug your heels in when

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Speaker 1: I brought up hockey is not being as being too long? No,

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Speaker 1: I really like my sports. I don't think you know

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Speaker 1: anything about these sports. And you're saying, but the season

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Speaker 1: would say the regular season has lost some of them.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jerry j takeaway here's that we all have empty

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Speaker 1: sitting out there, that's it, Marks, just I've got a

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Speaker 1: feet up and watch this magic. This is great. There's

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Speaker 1: no easing into this show. You want some real magic. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Our live show next Friday, a show

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Speaker 1: that Mark would like to shorten to half the time.

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Speaker 1: It applies to certain things that must be short sold out.

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Speaker 1: Our London show sold out in less than a minute

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Speaker 1: when it went on sale this morning. Uh an incredible,

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Speaker 1: R Fred Durst, an incredible feeling, um, but hopefully for

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Speaker 1: our shadowy League figures, an incredible feeling of missed opportunity

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Speaker 1: that we could be filling up a theater four times

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Speaker 1: the size. I mean, we've we've made these thoughts this

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Speaker 1: next time around, we're gonna keep pushing to get a

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Speaker 1: well see you throughout there will be that show. We

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Speaker 1: should keep pushing for a bigger venue when you get

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Speaker 1: that's what I feel like a different Nuts episode. We

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Speaker 1: You know who's helped us a lot on this way.

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Speaker 1: four with the Monday Night football recap. Rudolph stays in

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Speaker 1: two weeks after suffering a um rotator cuffed tear in

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Speaker 1: his shoulder. While the Panthers decide this is not gonna

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Speaker 1: work out, so they put him on the I r

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Speaker 1: UH and he will miss the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: The Panthers have signed defensive lineman Brian Cox Junior. From

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Speaker 1: the print is that the Brian Coxe's his son? Does

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Speaker 1: he have the big pads in the back board? That uh?

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Speaker 1: Brian Cox Junior from the practice squad to fill the

436
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Speaker 1: spot on the active aust big loss there, Greg Massive.

437
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Speaker 1: It's been under the radar that they've improved their defense

438
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Speaker 1: last two games without him. It says something about the

439
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Speaker 1: star power of this team that you can lose Cam Newton,

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Speaker 1: Kawan Short and win two games and you still have

441
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Speaker 1: guys like Christian McCaffrey and Luke Keikley, two of the

442
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Speaker 1: best you know players going on their respective sides of

443
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Speaker 1: the ball still on the field. Not many teams have

444
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Speaker 1: like a top you know list like that, but this

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Speaker 1: this is massive. He's been their best defensive player a lot,

446
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Speaker 1: you know, behind Keikley for a long time. They've also

447
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Speaker 1: hooked into the unbreakable trend at the moment that if

448
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Speaker 1: you have a player named Shock on your roster, he's

449
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Speaker 1: going to be electric. And Shack Thompson is coming off

450
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Speaker 1: one of his best performances in a long time. But

451
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Speaker 1: they you're right, you look up. Mario Addison never gets mentioned.

452
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Speaker 1: Always productive. They have dudes, and they found a way

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Speaker 1: to do sort of a soft reboot of that defense

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Speaker 1: where you kept key guys around, but the secondary is

455
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Speaker 1: look is a different casting. They're allowing the fewest yards

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Speaker 1: per game in the NFL pass scene wise, they are

457
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Speaker 1: tied for the Patriots for the most sacks in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and that's without kik Short for the last great news

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Speaker 1: for international player program uh graduate f a Obada, who's

460
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Speaker 1: been playing inside lately, was a big story last year

461
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Speaker 1: and to kind of get some more snap A lot

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Speaker 1: of hype around, a lot of buzz around the possibility

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Speaker 1: that Maurice bow Ringer lingering somewhere right now Cincinnati still

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Speaker 1: I believe so. Hasn't he hurt though as part of

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Speaker 1: the halfway program? Uh? Whether he will continue to get

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Speaker 1: that spotlight treatment from the Around the NFL podcast, It's

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Speaker 1: an ongoing discussion internally, it will believe it at that

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Speaker 1: For now, Well, there's other players to talk about. Yacob Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Patriots thought so much of them, they

470
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Speaker 1: wouldn't even use that little special spot because they thought

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Speaker 1: they might have to have him in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: And who was making a big block on a key

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Speaker 1: first down in the fourth quarter last week, Yacob Johnson.

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Speaker 1: That Jacob, It's Jacob. At a certain point, Mobo is

475
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Speaker 1: gonna have to come off scholarship. Mhm. Why does everything

476
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Speaker 1: Why doesn't have to turn around and be negative? Why

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Speaker 1: did can there just be because there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of that happening from you.

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Speaker 1: So Dan's Greg is afraid of Henry, and Henry's got

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Speaker 1: a start cutting way about him. Most people are afraid

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Speaker 1: of Henry. Yeah, and I friend, but I just I

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Speaker 1: have to call a spade of spade and just point

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Speaker 1: out that mobile can't be on scholarship forever. Henry directly

484
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Speaker 1: scouted many of these international players and a lot of

485
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Speaker 1: working out, so I would say overall, Henry's track record

486
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Speaker 1: as a scout a pure player finder is strong. He's

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Speaker 1: like the Steve Belichick of Europe. Jay Gruden, Uh, he's

488
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Speaker 1: not ready to decide which quarterback will get destroyed by

489
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Speaker 1: the Patriots this weekend. He's evaluating three quarterbacks ahead of

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Speaker 1: the matchup against the defending Super Bowl champions, Case Keenum,

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Speaker 1: who was yanked from Sunday's game against the Giants after

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Speaker 1: a slow start. There's the first round rookie Dwayne Haskins,

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Speaker 1: who looked like a total mess when he got his

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Speaker 1: chance to play against the Giants. And then there's that boy,

495
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Speaker 1: Mark's boy, Cult McCoy, the man who marked named one

496
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Speaker 1: of his children after he is also in the mix.

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Speaker 1: Uh if his leg allows that he has had that

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Speaker 1: lingering leg injury. So J Gruden is just staring at

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Speaker 1: a wall right now, trying to decide which men will

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Speaker 1: be sacrifice to the football guys. I don't doubt that

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Speaker 1: Cult McCoy on the whole would be as ready as

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Speaker 1: Case keenom, if not more. In this offense where the

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Speaker 1: coach likes him a lot. I think it's not exactly

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Speaker 1: You're not exactly doing a favor to a player that's

505
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Speaker 1: been through some uh strange issues with the team in

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Speaker 1: terms of the way his physical health was treated, not

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Speaker 1: the only one on that team with those concerns, and instead,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're saying, welcome back. I'm now gonna put

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Speaker 1: you into it completely broken down, dysfunctional offense that will

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Speaker 1: ensure you endure a ton of punishment comes Sunday. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if I'm cult McCoy, I want to do that.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, he is. His career is

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Speaker 1: long goer than anyone ever expected. He's a warrior. I

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Speaker 1: think that you might not want to play if you

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Speaker 1: were Culte McCoy. But Colte McCoy, that's not why you

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Speaker 1: named your kid after. He wants to play. He just

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Speaker 1: comps my comments saying I think he would want to Pyeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm that's what I mean. This is it's an unwelcome

519
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Speaker 1: scenario to throw a quarter absolutely, but talk about last

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Speaker 1: stan Jay Gruden has been wanting to start Colte McCoy

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Speaker 1: his entire run in Washington. He entered this offseason. I

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Speaker 1: think right wanting to start Colte McCoy in Week one,

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Speaker 1: that that was his preferred guy that he's kept around

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Speaker 1: and he's running out of time. They're both running out

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Speaker 1: of time. He knows it. You used to let your

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Speaker 1: case Keenom flag fly. I mean, Jay Gruden, let your

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Speaker 1: cult McCoy flag fly. He's the only one with a

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Speaker 1: chance to beat the Patriots, who he would have before,

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Speaker 1: would have if the Patriots up thirty four to ten

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Speaker 1: and two, if I was gonna get an if I

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Speaker 1: was going to give anyone a chance, it would be cool.

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Speaker 1: Who question for the room? Who are West Martin and

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Speaker 1: Robert Davis were there? There's some of the deep receivers

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Speaker 1: on the team. These are Week four starters for the

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Speaker 1: Washington Redskins, which fielded the worst offensive personnel we've seen

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Speaker 1: all year, including the Miami Dolphins. You did not have

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Speaker 1: Brandon Sheriff, Trent Williams, Jordan Read, Scary Terry all out

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Speaker 1: the lineup. They are West Martins starting that guard. Robert

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Speaker 1: Davis elevated from the practice squad, immediately made the number

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Speaker 1: one receiver and then cut after the game. What is

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Speaker 1: going on with this team? I would allow Greg to

542
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Speaker 1: lock up New England against the Patriots. The Patriots against

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Speaker 1: the Redskins, because the last time Colt McCoy faced them,

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Speaker 1: he went fourteen for nineteen for a hundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: four yards, ran for a long touchdown and Peyton hillis

546
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Speaker 1: stomped over a totally confused Tom Brady led Patriots team

547
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Speaker 1: for a hundred and eighty four yards and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Let's dial it up again. I'll take them. Of course,

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Speaker 1: that was before Colt McCoy walked with a limp. Really,

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Speaker 1: I don't know their point, but it was a long

551
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: time ago. Now it was almost a decade. It's a decade.

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Speaker 1: Who was on the cover of Madden Ones one, fair

553
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Speaker 1: and square through a fan vote. I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: the type of thing that wouldn't happen in two thousand nineteen.

555
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Speaker 1: Beat out Michael. People wouldn't allow it. They just are like, no, no, no, no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this cannot happens. If you're talking about that

557
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Speaker 1: West Martin, I think that everybody knows. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: drafted him in the in the fourth round. They must

559
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Speaker 1: see some promise, and that's just what I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If I'm talking about the right guy. Are you talking

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Speaker 1: about the guy that played college at Indiana and he

562
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Speaker 1: was like, wow, fourth round guard, you got it? Yeah,

563
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Speaker 1: he's like three fifteen pounds if I'm remembering correctly. I

564
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Speaker 1: don't know if that's the right guy. And this you,

565
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Speaker 1: this fantasy show is right, really stepped up Ricky's game.

566
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Speaker 1: Who has left their keys out for Ricky to go

567
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Speaker 1: into the lab? She's allowed in him. Poor Marks still upstairs.

568
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: That's fine, he's chilling at the poorhouse to myself. Finally,

569
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Speaker 1: in the news, Adam Feeling has thoughts on the VI

570
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Speaker 1: King's offense after UH Minnesota no showed an offense against

571
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Speaker 1: the Mighty Bears defense. Uh Feeling express some frustration. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it was with the offensive philosophy

573
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Speaker 1: or the guy who's supposed to be thrown in the ball.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen it. Well, I think I think that's probably

575
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Speaker 1: most frustrating thing is is we knew that that was

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Speaker 1: gonna happen at some point. At some point, you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to run the ball for a hunter, Um,

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Speaker 1: even with the best running back in the NFL. UM,

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Speaker 1: And that's when you have to be able to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball. You have to be able to make plays. Um.

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Speaker 1: You have to be able to um you know, hit

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Speaker 1: the ball at the deep balls. You have to do

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Speaker 1: that because otherwise it's too easy for changes tea up

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Speaker 1: and rush the quarterback. So we have to be we

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Speaker 1: have to be able to run the ball and pass

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Speaker 1: the ball. In this league, you cannot be one to mention, well,

587
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Speaker 1: it's just too easy to defend. It's odd to see

588
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Speaker 1: Minnesota struggling at at this level. And of as lest

589
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: you may remember, but shortly before the season started, I

590
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: was very high in their offense. I thought they could

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Speaker 1: really maybe even be a top five, top three, number

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Speaker 1: one unit. But it's all gone totally to hell. And

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Speaker 1: the one thing that has really jumped out to me

594
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Speaker 1: that's has surprised me is that the one thing he

595
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Speaker 1: could always count on, UH in a Kirk Cousins offense

596
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Speaker 1: was he was gonna put up numbers and they were

597
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: his team will move the football. That is what's disappeared

598
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Speaker 1: here and that's been to me the most surprising thing.

599
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: That you add Dalvin Cook into the mix, and we

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Speaker 1: talked about it on Sunday. The offensive line obviously has issues, UH,

601
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Speaker 1: but that they would be this inept. I just did

602
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Speaker 1: not see this coming at all. It's fascinating to me.

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00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: Cousins is a rhythm passer and he hasn't been in

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Speaker 1: rhythm really since last October. And I think if you

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Speaker 1: read between the lines with Adam Feeling, he at least

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Speaker 1: he and maybe other players with the vikings have some

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00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: issues with Kirk Cousins right now, and maybe he's not.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's that he's not pulling the trigger when the

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Speaker 1: passes are there. And in Cousins defense, it's not often

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Speaker 1: that the passes are there because his offensive line, the

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Speaker 1: mixture of that offensive line, that system and Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 1: is it working. It's not a good thing. When Feeling

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Speaker 1: in that same interview, was kind of asked, you know,

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Speaker 1: what's the difference this year? You know with you guys,

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00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, not you know, getting as much separation, And

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Speaker 1: the most telling thing is he immediately said, that's not

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Speaker 1: what I see. I mean, he's he's saying he's open,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, Cousins has been under pressure. There's a good article,

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Speaker 1: uh in The Athletic yesterday about it. It hasn't been extreme.

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Speaker 1: Watching that game, there were many plays where he did

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Speaker 1: have time and there are deep throws. You know, you

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Speaker 1: would think to give a shot to digs and dealing,

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Speaker 1: and he did try a couple, he hit one, and

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Speaker 1: he's instead checking the ball down, And I think that's

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Speaker 1: the frustration. And when you have Mike Zimmer on Monday

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Speaker 1: saying the same thing, you've got to pull the trigger

627
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Speaker 1: when you're when you're talking about your quarterback that way,

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Speaker 1: it's just I don't know, it's just well, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: there's bubbled over frustration. And there probably is an effect

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Speaker 1: that you can't really measure scientifically on most quarterbacks outside

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Speaker 1: of the most mentally tough, that if you've been damaged

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Speaker 1: and battered and hurt for a season plus behind a line,

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Speaker 1: you lose some trust for them. We've seen younger quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: even earlier this year, after a game or two of that,

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Speaker 1: not act the way you'd expect them to Aaron Rodgers doing.

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Speaker 1: In the last couple of years. You develop bad habits. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: There's this one play where they do the boot action

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Speaker 1: and and Cousins rolls out to his right and he

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Speaker 1: had there's no one within twenty yards of him at

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Speaker 1: that time, and he immediately like fires a fast ball

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Speaker 1: over the middle. To his running back. I think it

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Speaker 1: was c. J. Ham who was one yard past the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and he did it like right away

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Speaker 1: and I and that's the type of play where you

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Speaker 1: just it drives you crazy. I think if you're whenever c. J.

646
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Speaker 1: Hamm is open though, you've got to get the ball

647
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Speaker 1: to him, get it to him in space and watch

648
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Speaker 1: the magic. That's that's the philosophy the football coaches the

649
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Speaker 1: world over. That's what's happening in the news. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get to it. Oh, I want to do a

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Speaker 1: plug by the way, um, before we get to the

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Speaker 1: power rankings. There's a new edition of the Mark Sessler

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Speaker 1: Weekly Jam Out. It's called I'm blanking on it right now.

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Speaker 1: Help me out. Mark on my radar, on my radar

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Speaker 1: with Mark Sessler. Let's on your radar. Let's get that radar.

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Speaker 1: Let's get that radar sound effect back ricky um, Mark,

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Speaker 1: what's on your radar? What I wanted to hit on

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Speaker 1: this as we talk all these dead animal teams and

659
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Speaker 1: all these animals that are on the fast stand that

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Speaker 1: can't get out of their own ways. Radar is work

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Speaker 1: that works. Does around submarine have radar sonar? It depends

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Speaker 1: how sounds studio catalog is, but I think that that

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Speaker 1: gets the message across to some degree. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to look at some teams that have kind of changed

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Speaker 1: the way I feel about them. A team like the Lions,

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Speaker 1: where I first spent a decade plus thinking that they're

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Speaker 1: like a raging bowl of vanilla ice cream and I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to not watch them every week, and that

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Speaker 1: changing my mind after one month raging bowl of an

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Speaker 1: all right, I feel that way A little bit of

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00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: obviously about the Jaguars with with Gardner Minshew, I thought

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Speaker 1: the week four change changed the way I feel about

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Speaker 1: the Browns from where I was a week ago, which

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Speaker 1: was internal concern about them that there's some lights. So

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Speaker 1: a couple of teams that in week four changed kind

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Speaker 1: of build some stock. Understanding the hook now of the

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Speaker 1: weekly column on My Radar by Mark Sessler that typically

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Speaker 1: when we use the phrase on my radar on this show,

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00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: it's for negative reasons, but that is the beauty the

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Speaker 1: subversive nature of on my Radar with Mark Sessler, that

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Speaker 1: it's positive rates. Well, radar is something you're seeing. You

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's a friendly craft or a or

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Speaker 1: a you know, probably have some negative radars, but they're

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Speaker 1: depinitely more positive over well. I have also learned that

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Speaker 1: you know when you're when you're when you're offering one

686
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Speaker 1: of these things a week, that if you go super negative,

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Speaker 1: it's just it tends to disappear in the mix from

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Speaker 1: the social selling points. So if you can pump up

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. But I also think it's early

690
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Speaker 1: in the year and I've not gone totally cynical yet,

691
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: that will happen. I think this will get very a

692
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Speaker 1: very grim weekly piece. It was very positive ties in

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Speaker 1: directly again with the Cleveland Browns making you happy on

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Speaker 1: Sunday and that all filters out. So if we got

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Speaker 1: another big Browns victory on Monday night, I bet on

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Speaker 1: my radar is gonna be another Well I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: be writing about them every week, then it's that looks ridiculous.

698
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Speaker 1: What about the head you know? What about the journalism

699
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Speaker 1: saying if it bleeds, it leads? I never heard that

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Speaker 1: negative dot com not me. The NFL game Pass COVID

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Speaker 1: got together, we convene and rendered a verdict on the lines.

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Speaker 1: They've been upgraded from frisky that just playing fun and

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Speaker 1: I'm fresh out of caveats with this tight stick, a

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Speaker 1: pin and a because we're gonna get to the lines

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Speaker 1: here in the Power rankings were a quarter of the

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Speaker 1: way through the season. Quarter pole. It is a thing.

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Speaker 1: If you say it's a thing, it's a thing. So

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Speaker 1: don't tell us it's not a thing. Quarter Pole. Uh so,

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00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: let's check in with the the old juicer who has

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Speaker 1: authored every Tuesday since the beginning of really since the

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Speaker 1: middle of the preseason Power. What person is this you're

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00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: checking in with yourself? It's like seventh person. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what that is. To be very quiet, I'll be

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Speaker 1: in the clearing. We have the incredibly in a film Networks.

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Speaker 1: I'm lonely, so oh scanned it away. Yeah. So Dan

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Speaker 1: did a really nice job putting together You know he's

717
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Speaker 1: doing the work and you could tell, but I feel bad.

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Speaker 1: You're setting us up in a nice way. What you

719
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: could have asked one of us to gingerly do the same.

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Speaker 1: I have no problem doing it. For my words, comfortable

721
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Speaker 1: doing this A lot of work. You could us the

722
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: first person like a normally a lot of effort. Dan

723
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: is really putting in the work, and you're seeing that

724
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: on the paper and it's everyone wins. So let's dig

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00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: into it. Uh. We'll go through essentially breaking into tens,

726
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Speaker 1: A ten, ten, twelve, start with the top ten and

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Speaker 1: I'll point out uh and you can check this out

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Speaker 1: at NFL dot com slash power rankings. UM, Patriots in

729
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: chiefs one too. I think if you look at power

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Speaker 1: rankings across the universe, and there are millions of them,

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Speaker 1: but there was only one on NFL dot com, Uh,

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Speaker 1: everyone will have the same two things get trickier in

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Speaker 1: the top ten after that. UM. I I was really

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Speaker 1: sold by the Saints performance on Sunday night and uh,

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Speaker 1: and just how great they've been, uh the last two

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Speaker 1: weeks as a team. And I have them all the

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Speaker 1: way up to three, the Cowboys dropping one spot after

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Speaker 1: losing to the Saints. Uh, and then I moved the

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Speaker 1: Bears to number five. Uh, move them up three spots,

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Speaker 1: and that is a testament just the dominant level of

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Speaker 1: their defense. Anybody have an issue with the top five here? No,

742
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Speaker 1: I sort of like. I think it shows where philosophies

743
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: can differ but still make a lot of sense. Regardless.

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00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: I think if the Saints and Cowboys played seven times

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00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: on the neutral field. I would trust the Cowboys more.

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Speaker 1: But the Saints have earned this. They went into Seattle

747
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Speaker 1: and then they beat Dallas and they've earned this. I

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Speaker 1: get it. But they probably wouldn't be in my top ten, uh,

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Speaker 1: the Saints. The Saints would not. You know, they won

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Speaker 1: a game and see they've won. There's a difference I

751
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: think between like a great football story and you're getting

752
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Speaker 1: wins and that's important, uh for the rest of your

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Speaker 1: season and looking good as a team. I don't think

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00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: they've looked that good as a team. The offense has

755
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Speaker 1: had three of the worst performances of the Sean Payton era.

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Speaker 1: They weren't competitive against Los Angeles, they were doubled. They

757
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Speaker 1: didn't look like the better team in Seattle. I mean

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Speaker 1: they want, they're resourceful, and that's terrific, and the home

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Speaker 1: performance is impressive. I went to check football Outside if

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious what their efficiency is. I was guessing

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Speaker 1: wouldn b I They have him as the twenty one

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Speaker 1: best team in the league right now and then, which

763
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Speaker 1: obviously seems a little harsh. But I don't look at

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Speaker 1: them other than they're solving early season problems and think

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Speaker 1: this is a good Saints team. Well, I think they

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Speaker 1: have an offensive problem going back to last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they have a bigger problem with Teddy Bridgewater at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That problem is ample defense played unbelievable on on Sunday Night.

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Speaker 1: If that's a sign of things that come, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be a lot better. But they've had some line issues.

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Speaker 1: They're not deep. I mean, they have the star power,

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Speaker 1: but they don't have the debt. Even Withdrew Brees back.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't see them as a topic. See Dan, I

774
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Speaker 1: think you're dealing with no matter what you did at three,

775
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Speaker 1: you can make an argument for someone else because there

776
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Speaker 1: is no clear cut and other This is true untrue

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Speaker 1: of other seasons. There's no third or fourth dominant or

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Speaker 1: pressing to be dominant. The Cowboys probably would have been

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Speaker 1: my choice, But there's a team at six, and you

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Speaker 1: get to it. That's who I would have put into

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Speaker 1: the top five over some of these others. Uh one,

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Speaker 1: let's get to that in one moment, Mark, But you

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Speaker 1: would put the Cowboys ahead of the Saints. After the

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Speaker 1: I would put the Cowboys, the Eagles, the Rams, the Packers,

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Speaker 1: I put them all ahead of the Saints. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's yeah, let's check in out. So in the top ten,

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Speaker 1: I have the two AFC teams and the eight NFC

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Speaker 1: tas right now. I just can't figure out what's going

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Speaker 1: on in the a f C right now. But the

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Speaker 1: Eagles I have them. I moved them all the way

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Speaker 1: up to six because the rest of the team's that

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Speaker 1: I got. I got Niners at seven, and I'm giving

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Speaker 1: them a little bit of a lollipop because they're undefeated.

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00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: That they got the undefeated lollipop, but they're gonna have

795
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Speaker 1: to win again to stay there. Uh, the Rams at eight,

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Speaker 1: dropping them five spots, the Packers at nine, and I'm

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Speaker 1: closing out the Seahawks attend h Mark, you would have

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Speaker 1: the Eagles higher. I I, well, so, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how when you're if you're saying this is this is

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Speaker 1: as of last you know, Sunday nor Monday night, this

801
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Speaker 1: is where I'm ranking them. Fine. For me, I look

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Speaker 1: at the Eagles overall holistically and say, I totally believe

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Speaker 1: in this team. They've been through a ton of nonsense

804
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Speaker 1: injury wise. Early on, I thought that was a huge

805
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: win on Thursday night football in a tough environment to play.

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00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna win that game, and they did.

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Speaker 1: And I believe that the Eagles will be there at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year, minutes away from the NFC

809
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: title game, no matter what happens record wise through all

810
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: of this, and I would take them personally. The Bears

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00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: defense best in the league, maybe right there with New England,

812
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Speaker 1: but I would take the Eagles as an operation over

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Speaker 1: the Bears in a second if I could own one

814
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: of the teams and hope to have the ride. I

815
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: think there's real concerns about their defense and that you

816
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: might not get you know, you get him during again

817
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Speaker 1: back and eventually Darby back. They're just haven't even looked

818
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: great on they don't look as balanced. I'm with you

819
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Speaker 1: for the most part, and I think this is where

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Speaker 1: I put him to Dan and agree with what Mark's sane.

821
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Speaker 1: But I think there's a bigger concern than previous years

822
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Speaker 1: that their defense is just that they're not balanced, that

823
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: the offense is going to be better. They're not even

824
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Speaker 1: balanced on defense. They stopped the run and they're terrible

825
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Speaker 1: against the past. I just think that that that they're

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Speaker 1: going to be more than the some of their parts

827
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Speaker 1: a little bit, and they're gonna win a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they shouldn't against on the road, and they're gonna

829
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Speaker 1: just be at the edge right there at the end.

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Speaker 1: Let's make the case for the Niners. Though you said

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Speaker 1: you're giving them a lollipopham. Their fans could say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're number two in efficiency right now in d v

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Speaker 1: O A. Our defense has played lights out three straight weeks.

834
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Speaker 1: You know, opponents are crucial in that, I get it. Uh.

835
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: They played Mason Rudolph and they did a good job

836
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: against the Bucks in week one, they played the Bengals. Uh,

837
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: and then they have a chance to be explosive on offense.

838
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: Hasn't always been there, but you've got a great play caller.

839
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Speaker 1: Just on what they've done, they've been pretty impressive. Monday

840
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: Night is a fascinating game. But with them in the Browns,

841
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: the by is so annoying because you want to see

842
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: more from them. You want to see and the fact

843
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: that the Niners and Jets both shut it down. It

844
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: was actually good for the Jets, but for the Niners,

845
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: you want to see more from them because they've been

846
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: very intriguing. Uh. In the in the middle of the

847
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: power rankings, there are two teams I want to point

848
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: out the Browns, who I have at fourteen, up seven

849
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: spots from last week. UM. We hit on it a

850
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Speaker 1: little bit at the end of the Sunday Flagship program

851
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: West that, UM, who do you really who can you

852
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: vouch for and and pound the table for? Is the

853
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: third team in the a f C. And I look

854
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: at the Browns with their upside potential and how high

855
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: their ceiling is, and the Texans, a team that's trying

856
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: to figure some things out right now it feels like,

857
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: but can get hot at any moment. I believe those

858
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: are the two teams that I would point to say

859
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: I would be most confident in them becoming maybe not powerhouses,

860
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: but real strong teams that can put a scare into

861
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: the top two teams in the a f C. I

862
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: would have both of those teams you mentioned, the Browns

863
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: and the Texans over the Chargers, which you have ranked twelve,

864
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: two spots higher than the Browns. I just haven't been

865
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: impressed with the Chargers. Do have looked terrible to me?

866
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: I think they can't. They have the pieces to get better.

867
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: But I'm with you and uh, I think the Browns.

868
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: To me, I've noticed that with each year the NFL community,

869
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: The overreaction to each week's swing gets more and more

870
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: pronounced every year, and the Browns are this week's prime

871
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: example of the prisoner of the moment team. You know,

872
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 1: before they beat the Ravens, they were a bumbling, stumbling,

873
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: can't do anything right, will never overcome their offensive line.

874
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: Their head coaches in over his head, Their players are

875
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: buying into their hype. They're a joke. We can't stand them.

876
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: Why are they on TV? Why does Baker have many

877
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: commercials carry every Everything's wrong roll? Hall of Fame? Is

878
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: that even real? Now that you've been a Ravens team

879
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: that was picking on lesser lights early in the season,

880
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: and we're calling, you know, the Browns the third best

881
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: team in the a f C just because of one

882
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: week's data, And I think you need to be anchored

883
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: by more data than that. But I agree that the

884
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: Browns are probably right in the middle of the pack,

885
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: slightly above average, and their talent is even better than

886
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: slightly a bit. I think some of that overreactions because

887
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: of the sample size is so small, and Cleveland legitimately

888
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: looked like a different team than they had on offense,

889
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: but it felt like a Flukey game because they had

890
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: three plays over sixty yards, you know, where a lot

891
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: of it was the defense having breakdowns. Now the defense

892
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: has been really solid, and and you asked this, Dan,

893
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: I think it was off Mike. You know, who would

894
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: you pick as the third a f C team like

895
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: like you just mentioned, I think West And I did

896
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: say the Browns just long term because I like the

897
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: makeup that they'll figure it out right now. If you

898
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: were just basing strictly on we've seen, I think it

899
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: would be the Bills because I kind of know who

900
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: they are, and people coming out of that Bill's Patriots

901
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: games saying, oh that, you know, the Patriots have one

902
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: of the best defensive all time. I mean, they weren't

903
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: the best defense on the field. The Bill's defense is fantastic,

904
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds making the damn me and I kind of

905
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: know who they are. Maybe their upside isn't that high,

906
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: but I think they're They're gonna be really tough to

907
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: deal with them. It's interesting you're saying that and you

908
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: put them first out of those teams. So yeah, I

909
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 1: mean I certainly respect them and think they can make noise,

910
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: But you're so down on Josh Allen right now, and

911
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 1: you you're you're you've been leading with charge saying he's

912
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: really not making as much progress as people think. Well,

913
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: if that's your starting quarterback, definitely gets back from that.

914
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: There's also more to playing quarters and passing the ball

915
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: with touch. I mean, that's a huge part of it.

916
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: But I think when Gregg's talking about Josh Hollen not

917
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: getting better, you still have the factor in what he

918
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: does as a runner. Yeah, when he's not knocking himself out.

919
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: But you're right, it is a it's a good point,

920
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: Dan that it totally caps their upside. It's just I

921
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: feel like I I tweeted something about they have a

922
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: lot of gimmes on their schedule, so I think they

923
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: have a good chance to make the playoffs, and then

924
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: but everyone responded, Okay, well that's only eight wins if

925
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 1: you count those gimmes. And I look at the Bills

926
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: is they're gonna be in every game. So all these

927
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: games against the Browns and the Texans and the Chargers

928
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: that they have, I give them a good chance to

929
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: win half of those games. They can get to ten wins.

930
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean, to start the way they did that carries

931
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: at least one or two playoff teams a year. I

932
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: could be wrong. I've been over excited about Bills teams

933
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: early in the season. I think their defense is legitimate,

934
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: and you know, when you watch the Bears and the Patriots,

935
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing what continuity does for a team,

936
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: and those guys have been playing together for a long time.

937
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: The cores of all three of those defenses, that's a

938
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: great point. Bills, pant Panthers are two more. I count,

939
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: and it's easy to count because it's basically count the

940
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: winless teams, dead ass teams UM, Bengals, Broncos, Cardinals, Jets, Redskins, Dolphins.

941
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: So forget about them. But in that in the twenties,

942
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm going ask you guys a question. So you got

943
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: the Colts, I have a twenty the Bucks twenty one,

944
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: the Tycoons of twenty two, the Giants of twenty three,

945
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: the Raiders of twenty four, and the Falcons at twenty five.

946
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: The Steelers ay six, What is which of those teams

947
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: are you most confident will get hot, get on a run,

948
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: and be playing in January. Pittsburgh Steelers. Wow. But I've

949
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: come around a bit on the Bucks, and I know

950
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: I I jumped on you and you you know after

951
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 1: they beat a bad Giants team. Um, and I really

952
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: don't think the Rams are a good team, but I

953
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: did think they're defense. Unfortunately for the Bucks have my attention.

954
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: They're making plays on defense. Winston is playing well, but

955
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: the offensive line has really exceeded my expectations. And Ronald

956
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: Jones is running like a man possessed. He is my

957
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: new like Dalton scale for running backs. If you're not

958
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: playing better than Ronald Jones, what I mean he was?

959
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: He was way other than Todd Gurley in that game.

960
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: M I mean he might be above the Dalton scale

961
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 1: he has. I just used him for like, hey, why

962
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: can't you get extra yards? When I just saw Ronald

963
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 1: Jones get extra He embarrassed John Johnson, our former guest

964
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: on this on one play, on a couple of plays,

965
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: but one actually that was called back by penalty, but

966
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: he just unpants him. I still buy into the cults.

967
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: I still buy into them. Bucks would be Bucks would

968
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: be my choice. I know I've wanted to see if

969
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: the Tytoons are gonna suck anybody in after that. I

970
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: don't waste a lot of verbal uh energy on the Titans,

971
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: because I agree with Dan that it's a week to

972
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: week proposition and it's it's too much to deal with.

973
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: I need to see a six weeks stretch where they

974
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: play with no letdown games in that six weeks. Well,

975
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: I I as someone who's been over excited about the

976
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: Bucks like you have been with the Titans, I guess

977
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: we're just extending out our quarterback argument into the teams.

978
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: I want to see the Bucks these next two weeks

979
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, and then we'll see him in London

980
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: against the Panthers too. Tough division games. They've just been

981
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: so different, like great on defense the first two weeks,

982
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: great on offense the next two weeks. I wanna you

983
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: gotta at least split these two games to stay right

984
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: in the mix. I think it's only fair. I will

985
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: suggest this to Mark and maybe he'll agree with me

986
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: that Bruce arians and his staff have earned the right

987
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: to put a stop to all jokes that he's just

988
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: uh already regretting taking that job. Well, no, I've moved

989
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: that over to Vic Fonio because and that happened all

990
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: on Sunday, Because it happened midway through the third quarter

991
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: at half time, you were still saying Arians didn't want

992
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: to be there. There is there is something about Arians

993
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: where I feel like a little bit of air has

994
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: been let out of the balloon. In terms of the

995
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 1: Arians that I once loved. He just seems a little

996
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: bit annoyed. But when you go and drop fifty five

997
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: points of franchise high on a RAMS team that was

998
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 1: looked completely beguiled for half the game, you're probably happier,

999
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: all right. I kind of think he got wind of

1000
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: this and I helped him out eat this fifty burger.

1001
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: I know you don't like meet Sessler, Shove it down

1002
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: your gullet. If fifty five burger should actually be rounded

1003
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: up to a sixty burger, him sixty burger. He turned

1004
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: sixty seven years old on Thursday. What if it's just, hey,

1005
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: he's accomplished more than he ever expected in life. He's

1006
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: just a little more at ease with him. Not as

1007
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: much fire, but you don't need the fire. Doesn't mean

1008
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: you're not doing it as good. A good job. Maybe

1009
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he still isn't going for a legacy grab.

1010
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: By the way, don't forget about the number twenty three

1011
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: team on Dan's rankings. The old Zeuser working their way

1012
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: up and they get the Vikings in total panic mode

1013
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: coming into the meadow ends on Sunday. Feels like good

1014
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: timing to get the Vikings or bad timing. How things

1015
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: can play this article. They were previously ranked number twenty three,

1016
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: and they're ranked again at twenty three, So they're not

1017
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: what the team took care business at home. But you

1018
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: just described him as coming up as it's the winds

1019
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: of change are blowing. But they got beat the Vikings.

1020
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: I'll hang tight till next week. I'm all in on

1021
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: the Giants. If they beat the Vikings for a third

1022
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: straight win, well, I hope, you know, I hope you'll

1023
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: be all out on the Vikings if that happens too.

1024
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, they'd be in the dead ass group potentially. Wow,

1025
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: it's the Battle of the Battle of Kansas Sunday. We

1026
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: might have to draft that game and you'll find out

1027
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: on Thursday. All right, before we go, let's um preview

1028
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: Thursday Night football. The Los Angeles Rams, who I believe

1029
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: West just said almost casually, are not a good team.

1030
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: Not a good football team, travel to Seattle the clink

1031
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: in prime time? Who wins in Seattle? In prime time. Well,

1032
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: the Rams are gonna have to try to do it

1033
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks. Uh. Rams. The last few years in

1034
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: prime time, one of those up at the clink, one

1035
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: of those for sure they clinched. Was like there was

1036
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: also like the Jeff Fisher special when he pulled out.

1037
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: There's like nine to seven wins where Russell Wilson and

1038
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: a complete anomaly would be sacked like twelve times. Anyway,

1039
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: this is a great uh, great Thursday night game, great

1040
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: division UH rivalry. UH and Mark, this is a game

1041
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: you'll watch. Oh, this is a This is a I've

1042
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: watched every Thursday night game. The Bengal Steelers game tested

1043
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: my patients and I eventually had to say goodbye to

1044
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: that one. But this one, forget about it. This is

1045
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: actually great for Thursday too because division rivals don't need

1046
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: as much time to familiarize themselves. And Seattle is one

1047
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: of these teams. I don't know where they were in

1048
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: the rankings. I trust them to be there at the end.

1049
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: All I do. They fit well at number ten. They

1050
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: belong there, and they are not a perfect team. But

1051
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: when you plug in a guy like Jaenevian Clowney and

1052
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: he is making impact plays every week. I know that

1053
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: Chris Carson is someone that obviously would have lost some

1054
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: coaches trust, but they got a nice game out of

1055
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: him last week. Russell Wilson statistically is at the best

1056
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: he's been in every category. In an offense where I

1057
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: thought they were going to run the ball two and

1058
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: forty times a week, he is playing in an m

1059
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: v P level. Greg, you mentioned that I don't trust

1060
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: the Rams right now at all. I don't even know

1061
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: what they I just don't know what they are after

1062
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: the buffet locking it up, I'm this is a kind

1063
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: of game that I would really like to lock. But

1064
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: if I lose my lock on Thursday night, either one

1065
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: of two things happened, I totally forget about it. But

1066
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday or it it absolutely cast an ominous globe

1067
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: over the entire weekend. So I'm gonna think on my

1068
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: radar column if Mark Yeah, I would to go right

1069
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: at that team that cost me. It's it's a matchup

1070
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: where two units I think that want to play a

1071
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: lot better go against each other. In terms of the

1072
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: Seahawks pass rush and then the Rams past protection, the

1073
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: Seahawks pass rush hasn't been nearly as bad. The Rams

1074
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: are dead last in Pro Football focuses past protection grades.

1075
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: So Rob Havnstein, who was pretty good for a few years,

1076
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: is dead last that tackle through an injury. There two

1077
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: guards are ranked right near the bottom. They're all Pro

1078
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: left tackle. Andrew Whitworth has been fine, but he hasn't

1079
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: been the dominant guy. And so that's why Jared Goff

1080
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: is making these mistakes. I swear Jared Goff. If you

1081
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: just if you just counted the number of great throws

1082
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: each quarterbacks made this year, he's near the top. He's

1083
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: also just made a ton of mistakes and he's not

1084
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: a guy maybe that's gonna thrive with pressure on it

1085
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: too real quick to your point, the PFF has five

1086
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 1: of six Rams lineman from that last Bucks game ranked

1087
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: in the deep red negative twelve or below category. That

1088
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: is hard to do in a single game, five out

1089
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: of six. It's fascinating matchup the UH. There was a

1090
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: great segment from Steve Wish on the Aftermath show Monday

1091
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: breaking down the book that is out there now on

1092
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: how to stop the Rams, and a lot of teams

1093
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 1: are going to a six one defensive front, six six

1094
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: defensive Lineman's stop Todd Gurley on early downs, take away

1095
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: the off tackle runs denied Brandon Cooks or vertical routes.

1096
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: Make Golf throw more and forty times from the pocket

1097
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: instead of doing boot action, rollout play action, make him

1098
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: play quarterback instead of holding mcveigh's hands. And now you're

1099
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: stopping the Rams because this guy, I believe had a

1100
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: thirty seven to seven TDed interception ratio on early downs

1101
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: through his first twenty eight games. It is six to

1102
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: seven on early downs in the most recent eleven games.

1103
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: They are not getting it done on third downs because

1104
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: teams are taking away first and second down. I'm not

1105
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: sure if they could do that if Todd Gurley was

1106
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: still Todd Gurley. And I know the game script got

1107
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: banged against the Bucks as they fell behind and we're

1108
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: trying to play catch up, which led to how many passes,

1109
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: but Todd Gurley got five carries. Well, part of if

1110
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: if you watch a game, part of that is because

1111
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: the offensive line was penalized almost every time in the

1112
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: first quarter when they try to run play I mean

1113
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: five or sixteen yards and Gurley after the game, I

1114
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: don't call the players bro. He also doesn't fall start.

1115
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: This is a big, big game. I love it. This

1116
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: feels like maybe it's just the flip to October Week five,

1117
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: feels a little meteor. This feels like the first like

1118
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: big game of the year. I don't know that that

1119
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: we've seen enough of these two teams. I like what

1120
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: you've seen out at Seattle, getting a little bit better

1121
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: each week there. I don't know if they're overachieving on defense,

1122
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: but they're doing well with what they have and l

1123
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: a the defending NFC champs in a big spot. They

1124
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: can either put the NFC West right back to where

1125
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: it's been. Basically, hey, this is our division, or it's

1126
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: suddenly this pretty cool three team race where the forty

1127
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: Niners and the Seahawks are both ahead of them. The

1128
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: Desert Sees that sees this game is essentially as a

1129
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: pick them, and it's really let's pick this game because

1130
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: this is this is a real toss up for me.

1131
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: On one hand, I do love the idea of the

1132
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: Seahawks at home, Russell Wilson, like we said, playing as

1133
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: well as he is, Chris Carson running the ball well

1134
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: when he's not fumbling it, and then you have the Rams,

1135
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: who are probably pretty tied after what happened last week,

1136
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: and they got a great coaching staff and Steve Weich

1137
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: made great points, but also Sean McVeigh we're told as

1138
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: a genius, so you know this is the is the

1139
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: same thing too, and he's gonna try to make adjustments, uh,

1140
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: perhaps as soon as Thursday. So for that reason, I

1141
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: think I'll pick the Rams to a bit of a

1142
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: statement win, uh for l A, who have not played

1143
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: very well this season, but perhaps this will be their

1144
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: coming out party. But I could easily see it going

1145
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: the other way as well. Guys, how about everyone else

1146
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: on the podcast? First time you guys are talking, you

1147
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: know us in our track, you made some good points

1148
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: and I've lost so much faith in the Rams that

1149
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: I would of course pick against them, Yeah, on the

1150
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: road in a short week. But I don't know. I

1151
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: feel like I've been doing too much reacting off of

1152
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: the previous week. In my picks so far, Less and

1153
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: I are combined O and eight in our locks so far.

1154
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm in my own at right now, and maybe I

1155
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: should just pick the Rams because you don't do it,

1156
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: because they'll smart if we know that there's a book

1157
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: on the Rams, and he must know, but that's that

1158
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: book is written by Vic Fonio, and we four teen

1159
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, that's There's been a couple of

1160
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: good articles about it. The Bears had the blueprint, the

1161
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: Eagles basically copied it and did a good job in

1162
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and the Patriots did a lot of similar

1163
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: things in the Super Bowl. And other than the Panthers,

1164
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: almost every team they've played this year has done something similar.

1165
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: I thought, isn't that the book? And how much is

1166
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: this Todd Gurley is just a shadow of what he

1167
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: was and and the lines not as good. If I

1168
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: was a Rams fan, I'd take encouragement from the offensive

1169
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: performance against Tampa. You know, those those interceptions that he had.

1170
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: One he got just confused on. One was a tip

1171
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: um one, you know he he made he made a

1172
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: mistake under pressure, like they were big plays, but they

1173
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: moved the ball. They moved the ball really from the

1174
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: first drive on. But he couldn't run and against the

1175
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: team just trying not to mess up a huge lead.

1176
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm taking the Rams wow three for

1177
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: the Rams mark set, all right, That's why I did.

1178
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: I didn't jump in I'd see I'm thinking like a producer.

1179
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: I thought it would be good to go back and forth.

1180
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: Rams stop it up. It was like I was like,

1181
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go with that, nothing like a podcaster.

1182
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: Let's just stay right there, like I'm going Seattle, and

1183
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm soft locking it for right now because i may

1184
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: change my opinion while I'm allowed to change. It's unlocking

1185
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: it for now, and I'm black locks. I think Seattle's

1186
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: defense cannot wait for this, so it could be easily picked.

1187
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: And when you've got a guy on your defense. And

1188
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: Michael Kendricks who was nailed for insider trading, everyone thought

1189
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,479
Speaker 1: he'd be out of the league. He's back in kicking,

1190
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: but I want to do insider trading if like a

1191
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: two weeks slap on the wrist. Apparently, well he's back.

1192
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: He's part of the defense that I think is gonna

1193
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: win this game. They're gonna take it four in six.

1194
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: In fairness, it really seemed like his friend basically did

1195
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: it all and used his money. You know, I don't

1196
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: know the details. It seems like it's not that bad

1197
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: of a thing to do with. Becky's gonna get the

1198
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: electric chair for you know, getting her kid into college.

1199
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: And we got people getting thrown in the slammer for

1200
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: like a week for insider trading. I think it's because

1201
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: I think what happens is most people don't understand what

1202
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: insider trading is, including myself, So you don't sounds bad,

1203
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: you don't cling to it. But when like the actress

1204
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: like shoves her daughter into a college and everyone feels

1205
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: there's a lamb of justice, well everyone can jump on

1206
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: that story and you understand it. That's why I don't

1207
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: put her in the chair over it. I'm not the judge.

1208
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: How about the public shame? Isn't that enough? I don't

1209
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: make the decision. Someone else will. Okay, maybe she does

1210
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: belong to go there. We'll be back Thursday with a

1211
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: preview of all the week five games, and then there

1212
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: will be a mini pod featuring Dan Hansas and Mark Sessler.

1213
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: Like this new thing completely disconnected now that reality I know.

1214
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: It just feels even more distant now, like I'm drifting

1215
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: away for myself. Somehow, Mark and I will uh handle

1216
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: the Thursday night recap of that very compelling game in Seattle.

1217
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: Uh And finally, yes, thank you to the fans in London,

1218
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: like we can our careers could go in the toilet

1219
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: um tomorrow over. You know something that Mark says that

1220
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: gets magnified and we get canceled. That could happen and

1221
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: they'll never be able to take away that. We have

1222
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: a show that's sold out in less than sixty seconds.

1223
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: That's all you need is that that That is a

1224
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: huge career accomplishment. I don't care if there's four people

1225
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: packed into the venue that sold out quickly. It's a

1226
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,439
Speaker 1: testament to the hard work of us as a group

1227
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: and the amazing fans overseas. If you ever get a

1228
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: Wikipedia page, it will be in the first pair, sang,

1229
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: it better be in that first graph, right in the lead.

1230
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: If your career goes down the toilet, does the person

1231
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: you continue to refer to today in the third person?

1232
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: Is he still safe? I believe so. I'm not sure.

1233
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: It's a little confusing. All right, let us head of Ricky.

1234
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: It's your accomplishment as well. Thank you very much, Dan

1235
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: Dan hands is signing up for Dan ranzas Uh, The

1236
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the mail Man, the Old Boss, and Ricky

1237
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: Ally went behind the glass until Thursday m HM.