1 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: Welcome and to dag Zam, Connie Seeding, Larry, Brian Section 2 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: and John Oser. As we sol drawn past the combine. 3 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: Now it's a free agents see focus as free agents 4 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: are going to be on the market starting next week, 5 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: and that's where we're going to look forward to. So 6 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: let's start out with our big things and big thing 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: number one is the free agents focus. We've talked a 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: little bit about the free agents on this team that 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: are going to be probably hitting the open market. But Brian, 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: when I look at this team, where do you want 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: them to focus when they're looking at adding free agents 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: to this roster? 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the first thing they've got to do 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: is get under the cap, which obviously they have a 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: plan to get there. They're one of those handful of 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: teams that still have to manage that before next week. 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: You know, I'd like to see them do John what 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: they did last year and go and find guys like 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: Robert Hainsey, solid starters who come in at a reasonable 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: number and don't just play well, but they bring something 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: to the locker room. They bring some of that culture, 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: some of that toughness, some of that style of play 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: that the Jaguars want and when you're looking at positions. 24 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: I mean, we could spend the entire hour, do we 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 2: have an hour talking about defense? Just you know, where 26 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: you could improve on the defensive line, how do you 27 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: replace it? Devin Lloyd and things like that. But I'm 28 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: more of instead of a position, I'm more focused on 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: that mid level guy because I thought they got so 30 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: much from Hainsey last year, and the ability to grab 31 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: a couple of those kinds of guys is really something 32 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: I'm interested in. 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: It was pretty loud around here last year, meaning you know, 34 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: quietly loud if you will no front line break the 35 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: market free agent. But they got Eric Murray, they got 36 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis, they got Patrick McCarry. You know, they made 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: noise in early free agency last year to really solidify 38 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: their roster. I don't think it's gonna look like that. 39 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I think you may see one or two 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: the senses they need to try to figure out penetrating 41 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: defense of tackle, but I think it's gonna be hard 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: to find in free agency because if he's gonna really 43 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: disrupt usually has to be pretty high end. So I 44 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: think it's gonna be quiet. But I do think they 45 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: will try to do what Brian said, which is one 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: or two guys that matter that don't break the bank 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 3: because there's now I'm not sure there's enough bank to break. 48 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: Sure, let's talk about our big thing number two, which 49 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: is the math ain't math? And because at this point 50 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: they don't have any cap space right so according to 51 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: score track, they have about sixteen million over the cap. Now, 52 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that paid a lot of 53 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: money to make those numbers work and find a way. John, 54 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: they have a lot of guys that can do that. 55 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: Who is someone they can work with? I mean they 56 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: can extend certain people, they can rearrange the money. What's 57 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: something they might do to try to open some stuff up? 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you would think Armstead's contract is in there 59 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: anybody with signing bonus that you or with salary that 60 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: you can turn into bonus and move down. Brian, I 61 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: know you get the shivers when you hear that sort 62 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: of thing, because we all anybody who's around the nineties 63 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: when they went through salary cap. It's not going to 64 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: be that though. But they do have to mortgage the 65 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: future a little bit to get into the cap. I 66 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: think they'll keep that to a minimum because I get 67 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: all these emails saying, well, they should just do what 68 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: they do with mahomes in Kansas City and free up 69 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: forty million. Well, at some point that comes back, so 70 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: you have to manage that. Well, they'll do it. There 71 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: will be restructurings in the coming weeks. In terms of specifics. Yeah, 72 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: that it all kind of gets lost in the middle. 73 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 3: They'll be on the team, so it's not that big 74 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: of a deal to me. Who exactly restructuring is. 75 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's two guys at the top of the chart. Obviously, 76 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence and Josh heinz Allen have the biggest cap numbers, 77 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,559 Speaker 2: and that gives you an opportunity to convert because ostensibly 78 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: both of those guys will be in Jacksonville for the 79 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: long term. So you can take there, as John said, 80 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: their salary, convert it to signing Bonetus, and then spread 81 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: it out over the years of the salary cap. And 82 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: you can do that breathing a sigh of relief because 83 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: you believe that these are cornerstone guys. With a guy 84 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: like Eric said, who's going to be thirty three years 85 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: old and you're thinking you're towards the end, you wouldn't 86 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: do that you would try to see if you could 87 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: restructure his contract some way, maybe throw what they call 88 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: a dummy year or two. But you wouldn't get too 89 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: crazy and too creative with that because he's an older player, 90 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: and he's a free agent you brought in here. He's 91 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: not one of your core guys. They could do something 92 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: with Trayvon Walker, right, They could create a contract for 93 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 2: him which would lower his fifteen million dollar cap number, 94 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: call it a million. But you're talking now about making 95 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: a substantial, cornerstone sort of decision a year before you 96 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: have to. They'll get there and they'll have room to spare. 97 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: But you know the other thing, Kai and John is 98 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: there are a lot of players on this roster that 99 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: the Jaguars want to pay so rather than diving into 100 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: free agency, I mean, just a guy Patrick, I'm sorry, 101 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: Parker Washington, I was call him Patrick, But you know 102 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: guys like that that you want that you want to 103 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: be here. Brent Strange is another guy that you want 104 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: a round for the long m Anton Harrison's gonna come up. 105 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of cap things they can do, 106 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: but they had to have those guys in mind too. 107 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Those guys, though, won't necessarily lower the cap significantly, 108 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: but you can keep their cap figure manageable going forward. 109 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, Brandon Strange and Parker Washington are two guys 110 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 3: they need to get done this year. I think they 111 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: will absolutely. 112 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure if they haven't talked to them already, they 113 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: are going to be doing that very soon. Our final 114 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: big thing today is going to be on the road again, 115 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: because coming out this week they may even made an 116 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: announcement that the Jaguars are going to play two games 117 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 1: in London next year, and both of them are actually 118 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna be home games, one at Wembley and one at 119 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: Tottenham Stadium, and Mark Lamping here at the Jaguars explained 120 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: a little bit about why they did that trade off 121 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: for two home games. 122 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 4: We were scheduled to play an additional game in twenty thirty. 123 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: We work with the league. 124 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: The league has agreed to move that game to twenty 125 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: twenty six. So what that means is we're getting a 126 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 4: game back that will be in Jacksonville in the new 127 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 4: stadium at full capacity, and we're giving up a game 128 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: at reduced capacity in the stadium here. And it also 129 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: helps us regarding the construction. 130 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: So next year, limited home games limited capacity here at 131 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: the stadium, at every big stadium, so they're kind of 132 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 1: doing a little switch around, Brian trying to get back 133 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: a game at new capacity at the new stadium in 134 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: twenty thirty, because obviously the Jaguars play there every year, 135 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: but every four or five years an NFL team has 136 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: to play an international game, so they're trading that game back, 137 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: but not only six home games next year. So that's 138 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: kind of tough. 139 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, but as Mark said, it's about the 140 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: trade off. Mark explained it last Wednesday, and I've been 141 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: explaining it John. I'm sure you have two every day since, 142 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 2: whether it's in lined publics or at a rotary club 143 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 2: or standing on the beach. Everyone wants to know about 144 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 2: this other league game. So the league changed something and 145 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: they said that every eight years a team has to 146 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: give up a home game. Bag wars have been over 147 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: there enough. They haven't been part of that. But now 148 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: the league has changed the resolution and every four years, 149 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: and the Jaguars are on the books for twenty twenty 150 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: seven and twenty thirty. The Wembley thing is totally separate 151 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: than this particular game that they call the resolution game. 152 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: So moving it from twenty thirty when they're scheduled to 153 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, just seems reasonable to everyone involved. Your 154 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: lower capacity here, you get the game back at a 155 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: full capacity stadium in twenty thirty. It just makes a 156 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: lot of sense. And I get why people are questioning this, 157 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: but the reality of it is is it was the smart, 158 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: reasonable decision for the Jaguars. The London games. Wembley stands alone. 159 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: The resolution game is different, and the Jaguars have to 160 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: give one up right now every four years. 161 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have asked me the same thing, and 162 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: it always comes with the question, well, why are they 163 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: punishing us twice? Well, that's the way some fans see 164 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: it around here, but the league doesn't see the Wembley 165 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 3: game as a punishment because the Jaguars want to play 166 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: that game, so they don't really see that as it's 167 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: not keeping score and points off, points on. It's like 168 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: Brian said, it's a separate deal. I think also it's 169 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: important to remember in order to get to in order 170 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: not to be away in twenty six all games, they 171 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: had to figure out some way to have some construction 172 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: safety net here, and this is a way to get 173 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: four or five weeks. They hope away from Jacksonville, you 174 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: have time to construct. And the argument I've heard with 175 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: that of its fans as well, they should think about 176 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 3: football first. Well they are, but the big picture here 177 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: was to try not to have a second season away 178 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: from Jacksonville. So this was an effort to try to 179 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: do that. Basically, in order to get that, it was 180 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: hard to get seven or eight games at home that year. 181 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: They had to sort of sacrifice one or two and 182 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 3: only have six. Anyway, I hope you explained that a 183 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: little bit, but I know that was important to have 184 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: a little bit of construction time during the season. That's 185 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: one of the reasons that they wanted to move that 186 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: game into this year too. 187 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: It's a good point because with that construction time, they'll 188 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: have the two games away in London, then it'll be 189 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: a bye week most likely, and then an away game. 190 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: We'll give them a full month to do construction here 191 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: at the stadium and kind of get everything in the 192 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: works because we all want to see what that new 193 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: stadium is going to look like in the years to come. 194 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: So stay with us here on jag Zam. Coming up, 195 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about what's been going on 196 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: around the NFL elsewhere. Welcome back into jag z Am 197 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: today as we get ready for free agency next week. 198 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: We are just I think I'm I'm excited to get 199 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: back into football little bit. It was a little weird 200 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: last week. We didn't go to the Combine, which we 201 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: normally do, and that's kind of the swing back into things. 202 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: But it's a reminder as well. We don't have a 203 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: first round draft pick, so thinks they're going to be 204 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: a lot different here this year. 205 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 206 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: I'm used to get ready to go to wherever the 207 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: draft is, you know, in Pittsburgh, and we're used to 208 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: having a big draft day party here at the stadium, 209 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: but obviously those things don't factor into it as well. 210 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: Everything's different around here this year. 211 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's when you went after Travis Hunter last year 212 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: and when you went after free agency the way you did. 213 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: You sort of made sure that your splash off season 214 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: was twenty five and your twenty six off season was 215 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: lower key, sort of maintaining what you hoped you built 216 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: in twenty five. The good news is they built it. Yeah, 217 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: and you're thirteen and four, so you did get to 218 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: a point where you can have an off season. I 219 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 3: I don't call it maintenance. Mean, maybe maybe that's what 220 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: it is, where you sort of can just monitor things 221 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: and tweak rather than have to have the splash moves 222 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: to get there. I think this is the off season 223 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: where you calm it, yeah, and then you can act 224 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: like a normal Once they've got the cap in order, 225 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 3: the draft picks back, you can have some more, you know, 226 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 3: off seasons like we're used to. Starting in twenty seven, 227 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: I think. 228 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: We'll have a little more of an idea with free 229 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: agency whatever they tend to do, to give us a 230 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: little bit more of an idea of what they might 231 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: be focusing on in the draft, because right now we 232 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: can make what we think are what we think might happen. 233 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: We don't really know that yet. So I think that 234 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: always gives you a little more focus seeing what they 235 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: address in free agency, because then that'll kind of give 236 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: you a heads up as where they're going to be 237 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: for the draft. But let's look around the league, see 238 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: what else is going on right now. We'll check it 239 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: in the division. The Colts have a lot going on. 240 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones not signed as of yet. That seems to 241 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: be what they're gonna go after with quarterback, as Anthony 242 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: Richardson has said he wants a trade. I think they 243 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: were kind of done with that anyway, or seeking a trade. 244 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: But then also Alec Pierce is someone you might be 245 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: wanting to franchise tag. They haven't done used the tag yet. 246 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going to use that today. 247 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: Today's last day, John, I think they can do that. 248 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, today's the last day. I look. Storylines of 249 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: franchises sort of evolve over decades, right. The Colts were 250 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: the quarterback franchise for what, you know, from ninety nine 251 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: until Luck retired in twenty fifteen, well whatever the day what? 252 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: And when I was up there, people knew they were 253 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: blessed to have a quarterback in Peyton. And people would 254 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: walk around the building saying, hey, don't forget this is 255 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: not normal, meaning this kind of consistency, and boy have 256 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 3: they paid for it a quarterback since right? I mean, 257 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 3: and they are a franchise, maybe the model franchise right 258 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 3: now for years and years of trying to get that 259 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: position right and it's hard and the Daniel Jones says, interesting, 260 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: I mean he was great when he played last year. 261 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: That Achilles can be tricky to come back from. Do 262 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: they know what he was going to be. I think 263 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: they have to because they committed to it. 264 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: The timing of the injury is what really hurts you, believe. 265 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: I mean, if it had happened in September, yeah, you 266 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: might be moving on because you hadn't had enough of 267 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: a sample size. Or October maybe you have enough of 268 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: a sample size, you have a comfort level with where 269 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is. I'm interested and I know that they're 270 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: different sports in different positions. But Jason Tatum, the Boston 271 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: Celtics star, is forty two weeks removed from tearing his 272 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: achilles in the NBA playoffs last year, and I've kind 273 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: of been monitoring that while reading the Daniel Jones stuff 274 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: because Tatum kai is at a point where they're talking 275 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: about him being back in time for the playoffs, maybe 276 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: before the playoffs, and that you would think might be 277 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: a more difficult position to play, a difficult sport to 278 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: play when the achilles. So it seems to me John 279 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: like they're all in on Daniel Jones, and the question 280 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: mark is is how much are you paying him and 281 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: how are you structuring the contract? Because they like who 282 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: he is and the other thing that I've heard you 283 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: guys probably have two is they're keeping Alec Pierce because 284 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: Pearce and Jones are a great tandem and they're going 285 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: to figure out a way to make that one work. 286 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 3: Yeah. I kind of think they have to be all 287 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: in on Jones just because they went after the cornerback 288 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: last year, gave up the two first round picks. If 289 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: you're not all in on Jones, what are you all 290 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 3: in on? So they're an interesting franchise because they were 291 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: really good when he was right. But you're playing on 292 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 3: a timeline with the running back because they don't last forever. 293 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: So I would read there have Tylor Lawrence situation. 294 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: It's worth wointing out. The other great quarterback franchises been 295 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: the Packers. They had Farth, they drafted Rogers, They drafted 296 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: love Right, which caused a problem with Rogers. If the 297 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: culture sitting in the second round and there's a quarterback there, 298 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: I think you have to take them. I think you 299 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: have to be at a position where you start to 300 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: re establish some quarterback depth. 301 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: Just in case is he good the guy they're gonna 302 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: take right? It's a gamble, but they're that franchise. Every 303 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: year they have dipped a toe uh, and they haven't 304 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 3: come up with right guy. 305 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: So as we look elsewhere in the division, the Titans 306 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: trade to and Andre Sweat up to the Jets Jermaine 307 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: Johnson back will Robert Sala, who's coach in New York, 308 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: and they have a lot of cap space opposite of us, 309 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: so they have a ton of cap spaces. Feels like 310 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: Sale's gonna try and get his guys in there to 311 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: day to Vander Sweat, a giant human being, but didn't 312 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: fit in with what they were trying to do. 313 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: No, to me, this is just a okay, I'll take 314 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: your guy, you take my guy. I think it helps 315 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: the Jaguars not to have that guy, you know, mine 316 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: up in the middle of the line. But I neither 317 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: here nor there. I do know this. The money that 318 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: they have to spend can either take them to a 319 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: place where they're competitive or it can bury them. And 320 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: the Jaguars are a case study on misspending taking too 321 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: many chances. You know, it seemed forever they were in 322 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: free agency, theyk we're going to fix it all this year. 323 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: Saw saw some of that when he was here with 324 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: Gus Bradley. I would think that he would want to 325 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: spend wisely. 326 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a free agency is a dangerous drug though, yea, 327 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: it is, meaning when you've got that money spend and 328 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: you've got pressure. This is a franchise that was consistent 329 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: for thirty years basically and is now we'll say it 330 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: like it is there. Where the Jaguars were in the 331 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: sort of abyss of the last fifteen years, meaning they're down, 332 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: they now have a quarterback, they have draft capital, and 333 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 3: they have free agency capital. As you said, Brian, we've 334 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: seen where if you try to do everything in one 335 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: off season, it's very tempting because you get the money. 336 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: So they're anything franchise we've seen here. When you hit 337 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: that low, it can be harder to pull out than 338 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: it ought to be. Them trying to pull out is 339 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: the storyline for the next year or so. 340 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: You've always called it. It's like your foot stuck in 341 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: a puddle of mud, yeah, and trying to break that 342 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: suction and get free. And it took the Jaguars a 343 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: long time to do it because they put themselves in 344 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: a tough spot with free agents. Sala was in New 345 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: York when they had a bunch of picks and they 346 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: drafted very well on the defensive side of the ball. 347 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: Jamae Johnson was one of them. Mike Wilgonzi, the general 348 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: manager who came from Kansas City where they drafted. Hopefully, 349 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: if you're solo, that's where they're going. 350 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: And I think find a note on that. It's important 351 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 3: to credit what the Jaguars did last off season because 352 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 3: that's the right way to try to get out of 353 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: the abyss. Meaning Hainesy, McCarry, Jordan. Listen. None of those 354 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 3: guys are probably going to the Hall of Fame, but 355 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: they are really good culture players you could afford and 356 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: gradually get out of it. Along with drafting. Well, it's 357 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: harder to do that than in autobate. 358 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: There's also one other factor in it, and people don't 359 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 2: necessarily always take it into account. You have to spend 360 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: to a certain percentage of the cap on a three 361 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: year rolling average. So they've got all this money and 362 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: it's not like they can bank it and keep flipping it. 363 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 2: They have to spend to get the revenue sharing in 364 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: the NFL. They required to spend. I believe it's ninety 365 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 2: percent of the cap on a three year ruling average. 366 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: So they got this money and they got to spend 367 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 2: some of it, so you've got to be really careful 368 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: on where you spend it. 369 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 3: Money burn a hole in their pocket. 370 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: We're going to keep it eye and see what they 371 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: actually end up spending it on elsewhere in the division. 372 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: The Texans training for Lions running back David Montgomery, sending 373 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of picks their way, and that was a 374 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: little bit interesting to me. 375 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 3: Their addition there. 376 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: I felt like, obviously they had the whole thing with 377 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon and I don't think anybody ever figured out 378 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: what that was about with his foot injury. Didn't play, 379 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: but they got a lot of good play out of 380 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: Woody Marks. And obviously David Montgomery was really successful what 381 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: he's done in Detroit, but he's not as eighth year now, 382 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: so it was an interesting trade for me. I think 383 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: he could be really great. But also they're shipping out 384 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: a ton of their offensive linemen, so I'm not really 385 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: sure what the Texans are doing there either. It seems 386 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: like they're kind of trying to Obviously their defense is tremendous, 387 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: but they're trying to overhaul this offense and get it 388 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: tinkered into the right way. 389 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're in a tough spot because what CJ. 390 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: Stroud is right now is more uncertain than we thought 391 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 3: it would be a couple of years ago, so they're 392 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 3: trying to tinker with the offense. Dave Montgomery is a 393 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 3: really good player. Ran in a situation in Detroit where 394 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 3: the other kid was playing just so much better that 395 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: his opportunities were sort of limited. Eight year running back. 396 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 3: I expect him to matter for the Texans. He fits 397 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 3: what they like to do. But to me, the storyline 398 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 3: for the Texans is is CJ. Stroud a leader or not? 399 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: And that will determine to me whether they can be 400 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 3: a super Bowl team or a team with a very 401 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: good defense fighting to get there. 402 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: Well, they've got to make a decision on the fifth 403 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: year option with c J. Stroud and John's it's a 404 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: big decision for them. He was really good, and then 405 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 2: they got Joe Mixon and I thought he played great, 406 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: and then last year he didn't have a terrific running game. 407 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: You mentioned Woody Marks and Nick Chubb. They brought in 408 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: and they were good enough, but Mixon was a difference 409 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: maker in twenty twenty four, and that's what they're trying 410 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: to get here with Montgomery and you hope an eight 411 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: year guy with Woody Marx can be that banger that 412 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: Mixon was when he came in. It's not quite as big, 413 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: he's not quite as fast, but he's a really good 414 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: football player if you use him the right way. This 415 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: is all about CJ. Stroud and trying to figure out 416 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: a way to make him effective while they have that 417 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 2: defense guy, because that defense will start to piecemeal itself 418 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: away as they start paying the top players and have 419 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 2: to retool the secondary. 420 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: That's really a tough spot there, and is defense. There's 421 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: elite defenses that carry it, which they are. They're the 422 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: I mean, they were the team in the postseason that 423 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 3: you know, I thought the Jars have toughest match up 424 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 3: against because that defense is dominant. But dominant defenses, as 425 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: we saw in seventeen around here, shelf life is more 426 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: limited than when you're built around a quarterback. Be interesting 427 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 3: to see what they do with CJ. Stroud. 428 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: Also, just when we saw the back half of the 429 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: season after out with that injury not running as much either, 430 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: so I think that's also limiting his game. But we'll 431 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: keep an eye and see what they end up doing 432 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: with the extensions. Obviously he'll be there for a little 433 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: bit longer, but something to keep an eye on. Sal's 434 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: here and diaxam. We're gonna do some ozone mail bag 435 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: questions as John shares his wisdom with us after the break. 436 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: Welcome back to jagxam today. Obviously it's the off season, 437 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: so John Oser is getting a lot of ozone questions. 438 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: We're gonna go over some of them with you today 439 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: and give you the answers that he brought to his viewers. 440 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: So first one is Bradley from Death Valley, California, says, 441 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars wide receiver Brian Thomas Junior has elite size, speed 442 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: and athletic ability. Had an elite rookie year, but the 443 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: regression this past year is concerning, but I think he 444 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: bounces back. How serious are the Jaguars about trading dt J? 445 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always a trade. I can call him rumors. 446 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: Anymore trade stories out there that when you look at 447 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 3: it's like, okay, Well, somebody from Pittsburgh said that there 448 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: was interest from the Steelers in the interesting So I 449 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: don't doubt that there are teams who look at Brian 450 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: Thomas Junior say I'd be interested in having that. I 451 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 3: don't think there's significant interest on the Jaguars part. There's 452 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: a price for everything, yeah, but I don't think it's 453 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 3: necessarily They're sitting back there going we need to move 454 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 3: this because I think they like The regression that he 455 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: talked about was in the first seven or eight games 456 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: this season. In the second half, thing started looking better 457 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: for this receiving corps as a whole. James Gladstone talked 458 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: after the regular season about having three or four guys 459 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: in the passing offense and btj's ability to stretch the 460 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: field and draw defenses was a big part of that. 461 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: The question you have if in theory you're trying to 462 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 3: get rid of Brian Thomas, I'm saying a reader asking 463 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 3: me about that, what are you replacing him with? You know, 464 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: if you trade him for a second round pick, are 465 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 3: you getting better than him when you go try to 466 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: replace it. You better be able to find somebody who's 467 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 3: stretching and straining the defense if you're going to get 468 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: rid of him. So I don't think they're very serious 469 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: at all. No. 470 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: A couple thoughts on this. The first that stands out 471 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: to me is we're just redefining his role. 472 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: Right. 473 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: We thought he was that one alpha. The offense rolls 474 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: through him. But as you just said, James Gladstone really 475 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: likes the idea of having three or four guys at 476 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: seven hundred yards, which they had last year four guys 477 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: at five hundred I think was the number. So while 478 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: he may not be that alpha one dominant all pro 479 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: wide receiver, he's a big part of what they do 480 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: on offense. And the other thing is, and it's this 481 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: trend and I don't know whether it's social media or 482 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: media in general, but it's could might be. You see 483 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: these headlines now and it's just somebody speculating, you know, 484 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: who who matches up? Who who needs it? Oh, the 485 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: Bills need a receiver. Well, where might that make sense? Well, 486 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior wasn't the dominant player and they didn't 487 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: draft him. There's just a lot of speculation, and you 488 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: click on these things that are clickbait now and there's 489 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: so much just possibly, could might Maybe there's nothing hard 490 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 2: news to it at all, So. 491 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 3: I might win the lottery. I keep waiting, Yeah, and 492 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: so far no, you keep going up. Yeah, my code 493 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: case working with right good KAI. 494 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: Could be going to Sunday Night Football she's certainly talented enough, 495 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: but you just don't know that. People just throw things 496 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: out there, and I don't see why you'd want especially 497 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 2: because you don't have to pay him this year. It's 498 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: not like you're up against the contract where he's going 499 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: to cost you twenty million. 500 00:23:59,000 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 3: He's a rookie deal. 501 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: Still, like, it makes sense to keep right here because 502 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: he's talented, because he's cost defective, and because he's part 503 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: of an offense he could really use his talent. 504 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: And I think the important thing to remember about him too. 505 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 3: None of the numbers weren't there, but the plays in 506 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 3: the moments were, Oh yeah, I'm not sure they beat 507 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 3: Houston without him here or Kansas City. I'm not sure 508 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 3: they beat Kansas City without him. So when you have 509 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 3: offensive guys who make that play in that moment that 510 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: win a game for you, you know, before you get 511 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: rid of it, you ask yourself, where am I getting 512 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 3: that from? If he's not here? I think BTJ fits 513 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: into that. And look, we've seen the potential, We've seen 514 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 3: what he can do, all right. 515 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: Second one's about Travis Hunter's rehab. Bruce from Saint Simon's 516 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: Island and Georgia says his wide receiver cornerback Travis Hunter's 517 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: injury last year potentially affect his quickness and agility for 518 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: this season, or do today's advanced medical procedures aka Tommy 519 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: John and such mean that Hunter will retain his abilities. 520 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: This is for obviously for doctor ol here. Yeah, I'm 521 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 3: not a doctor. Uh my nickname is doctor O. In 522 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: you in high school it was an ironic nicknack or 523 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: anything may that was not the doctor. But look, any 524 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: injury to a knee has a chance to wear and 525 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 3: tear in a road quickness and agility. I mean, that's 526 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: why players aren't as good when they're thirty five. The 527 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 3: body wears out. But I don't sense that there's any 528 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: concern around the building that when he comes back next year, 529 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: you're going to see a player who's not as quick 530 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: and agile as he was when they draft him. I 531 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: don't think there's any concern that he's not going to 532 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 3: be the player. 533 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: That he was before. 534 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 3: You know, it's always a risk when they're surgery involved 535 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 3: and there's an injury, but I don't sense that is 536 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 3: a huge concern. You guys may have heard different. I 537 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: think they think he's going to be the player that 538 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: he was. 539 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: I've never known what the term ahead of schedule means 540 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: with respect to surgery, especially knee surgery, but I keep 541 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: hearing that he looks good and he's ahead of schedule hearing. 542 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, but they said when they announced 543 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: that he was not going to play the rest of 544 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 2: last year that they fully expected that he would be 545 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: ready to go when OTA's got started. So I don't 546 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: doubt that he is doing well and that his recovery 547 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: is at least on track and they expect him to 548 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: come back, if only because when they have talked about 549 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: him this year, they have talked about him still being 550 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 2: a guy who can play on both sides of the ball, 551 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: who not just play on both sides of the ball, 552 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 2: but be a factor on both sides of the ball. 553 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: And if that's the case, if they really believe that 554 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: they're telling you, they don't have many concerns about him. 555 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: In my sense is the biggest storyline with Travis is 556 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 3: going to remain usage. I think once he gets going 557 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 3: in training camp, the physical part will not be the issue. 558 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 3: It'll again be exactly how they're going to use him, 559 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 3: and that'll be the storyline we want. 560 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the most tantalizing part of him. 561 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: Do you need him on offense this week? Do you 562 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 2: need him on defense this week? What do you need? 563 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: And a year with the playbooks on both sides can't 564 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: hurt either. That's certainly gonna help them. But yeah, from 565 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: all we've heard so far, rehab has been going as 566 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: planned and we should see him back on the field 567 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: when they start their off season programs soon, so we're 568 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: gonna close things out. We'll go to Michael from Orange Park, Florida, 569 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: who says, Ozone, where are we playing in twenty seven? 570 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: Why are they delaying this? 571 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know where they're playing because they're delaying 572 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: this because it has to be voted on by NFL 573 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: owners by rule, and that'll happen at the owner's meetings 574 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 3: in Phoenix at the end of March. The Orlando or Gainsville. 575 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 3: I don't have a great sense that I'm coming unt 576 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: to share on the air about where it will be, 577 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: but I think we'll know within three weeks. 578 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: I've seen the stories out of Orlando and how aggressive 579 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: they have been in trying to make a deal. But 580 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: until the owners vote on it, the Jaguars can't say 581 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: anything about it. They have to let that process play out. Now. 582 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: Once they decide, oh you're gonna hear about it, you 583 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 2: can be sure you're going to be hearing about it. 584 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 3: And guess what, they don't play until twenty seven, so 585 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: to wait till that's wrong? Way. 586 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot on on the to do list 587 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: to be able to play here in twenty twenty six. 588 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: Yes, so there's a lot to go down. But the 589 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: answer is short answer. 590 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: Three weeks. 591 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: The'll vote on it and then we will know for sure. 592 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: But say with stern jagsam will tell you what's coming 593 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: up the rest of this week and then going to 594 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: free agency next week. SAgs bands tend to lock in 595 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: your seats for twenty twenty six by placing. 596 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 3: Your deposits now. 597 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: Next season will be played at EverBank Stadium, but limited 598 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: capacity obviously, so you want to get in there early 599 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: and get your spot. Don't miss out on your chance 600 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: to see the biggest matchups this season. Play that deposit, 601 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: get in there and get your tickets. Go to Jaguars 602 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: dot com slash tickets. You can also call in. 603 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun, you know if the news that 604 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: I think just escaped last week from Mark's press conference, 605 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: was the atmosphere that they expect. 606 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: You know, Actually it's back to what you expect out 607 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: of a Jaguars game. 608 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: The back end really Jaguars fans. 609 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: Back back end of that season. You think about Monday 610 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: Night football, you think about that playoff game. The crowds 611 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: were the best part of some of those games. And 612 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: to have that back now and have a team that's 613 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: worth watching every single week, you want to be there 614 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: to see it. Especially with sometimes with smaller crowds, I 615 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: feel like you can be a little more voracious as well, 616 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: so like it's like a little bit, it feels like 617 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: it's on top of you a little bit, and I 618 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: think it'll be a cool environment for sure. 619 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 3: Of Colus. It's reduced, but it's reduced to forty three. 620 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: It's not the twenty seven that you had in San 621 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: Diego or La back in the day. There will still 622 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: be I expect the energy to be out out of 623 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: this world for the games that are here. 624 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely, So that's something to keep an eye on for 625 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: US franchise tag deals time is up today, so we'll 626 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. I don't expect anything here, 627 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,239 Speaker 1: but just elsewhere around the league, and then what's the 628 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: timeline for free agency next week? 629 00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 3: John, Well, the negotiating period begins Monday and then and 630 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: free agency technically starts at four pm Wednesday, and it'll 631 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: be one of those our awkward time of the year 632 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: here because the news will be flying Monday and Tuesday 633 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 3: officially on the website, will report at four on Wednesday 634 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 3: when it actually happens because of the league year league rules, 635 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: but all the fun stuff is Monday and Tuesday, and we'll. 636 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: Pay attention obviously because the Jagwarts has some work to 637 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: do to get under the count. 638 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: So we'll be here with you at some point next week, 639 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: not sure if it's Tuesday or Wednesday, but to talk 640 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: a little bit about free agency what the team plans 641 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: on doing. But we'll obviously have you covered on Jaguars 642 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: dot com as well, so always check there for your 643 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: latest info and we'll see you next week on Jacks 644 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: amm