1 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: in the stratosphere of normalcy. Happy Friday, Aya Bee. We're 5 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: doing just fine here, fine and dandy on one Bill's 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: Live Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you as we wrap 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: up the week. The last day prior to Bill's preseason 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: game number two, they will be taking on the Denver Broncos, 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: and by the sounds of it, not the starter Denver Broncos. 10 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: So I don't believe we are going to be seeing 11 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson or a host of other players. Will get 12 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: definitive answers on that in the second hour of our show. Um, 13 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: look was last week against the Colts. Bills will play 14 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: their ones, Broncos will play their two's. Yeah, now, the 15 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Bills are obviously only gonna play their ones like a 16 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: quarter and a half, quarter, quarter and a half whatever 17 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: health A finger quotes healthy amount. I don't even think 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: it's been set in stone yet as to how long 19 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: those guys will play. And there is gonna be some 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: guys that will not play like you know, Poyer in 21 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: those guys that are injured. But yeah, you would it always. 22 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm always about this overreaction thing. So if Josh doesn't 23 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: come out and score a touchdown every time he touches 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: the ball against the number two of the Broncos, people 25 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: are gonna overreact and say, oh my gosh, Ken Dorsey's 26 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: gonna kill us. He's not gonna you know, he's not 27 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: gonna be the guy that kind of thing. Okay, come on, 28 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: just let's just guard against that. This is not gonna 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: look like Gangbusters like they finished up this season. It's 30 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: a preseason game. They're gonna just just give him a 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: chance to get their feet wet before we all jump 32 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: off a bridge because they didn't score thirty five points 33 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: against the twos in a quarter, right, you know what 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean? Yes, I know what you're saying because you 35 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: and I live this, living this life of overreaction. So 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: just I'm just you know, pull me off the ledge 37 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: right now. Oh you're on. You think you'll be on 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: the ledge. But when the fans get out there, I 39 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: go out with him. Oh you do? Yeah, So I'm 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: call you back in if it happens. Just remind me 41 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: of what I said right at this moment. Okay, on Monday, 42 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: when we come back in here. You know, if you 43 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: need me to be your therapist, I can do that 44 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: for you. Your sports therapist, your football therapy, my sounding board. 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: Keep me on the straight in Erica, hold me accountable, 46 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: right the I think the most fascinating thing about the 47 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: fact that we're gonna, in all likelihood you get the 48 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: Denver backups is we are going to probably see the 49 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: journeyman quarterback of all journeyman quarterbacks. This guy's got Fitzpeat 50 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: in terms of number of teams with which he's been associated. 51 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: Josh Johnson. I think he's played for almost half the 52 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: teams in the league. It's like twelve or thirteen dressed, 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, but active for a game 54 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: on the roster. Josh Johnson eighth year player out of 55 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: San Diego, thirty six years old and still cutting it. 56 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: So he's He's the presumed starter for Saturday's game against 57 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: the Bills. Russell Wilson will not play, neither will a 58 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: host of other starters. As it appears that Nathaniel Hackett 59 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: is bringing the Green Bay coach Lafleur philosophy of preseason 60 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: play to Denver, there are no plans to play Russell 61 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: Wilson at all in the preseason. I don't know if 62 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: that goes for all their starters, but as I said, 63 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: we'll get more info on that when we talked to 64 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: Nick Cosminer, Denver, Broncos beat reporter for the Athletic, I mean, 65 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: he'll kind of lend some details. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. 66 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: I think Josh Johnson has, shall we say, been around 67 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: the block more than once, maybe two or three times, right, 68 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: and you know in the n in the NFL it's 69 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: been let's see Bucks Brown's, Bengals, Commanders, Jets, Ravens. But 70 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: I mean he's also one of those guys with the 71 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: lay he was with the LA Wildcats. Okay, uh, those 72 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: kind of guys. So he's yeah, that's it. He's been 73 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: on a number of other rosters. That is a checking offseason. 74 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: I'd say it checkered pass, but it's not checkered. It's 75 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: you know, the guy's a player. You know, as a 76 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: former player, you gotta tip your hat. You really got 77 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: to tip your hand now. He wants to play. He 78 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: wants to play, and he doesn't care where it is 79 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: or what you know. It's it's pretty amazing. And that's 80 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: that's pretty awesome too, to see this guy just wants 81 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: to play and you know, there you go. Yeah he 82 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: now he's taken snaps for the Denver Broncos. Unbelievable. I 83 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this, but as we know, 84 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson was handed an eleven game suspension five million 85 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: dollars fine in a settlement between the league and the 86 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: players Association, and that punishment could be longer if he 87 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: doesn't comply with the terms of the settlement. It requires 88 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: compliance with a professional evaluation and treatment plan. So according 89 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 1: to some of the digging that people did into the agreement, 90 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: the evaluation and treatment plan for Watson will be handled 91 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: by a third party behavioral x for it, and if 92 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: Watson wants to get reinstated, he'll have to comply with 93 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: any recommendations made by the expert. If Watson doesn't comply, 94 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: his reinstatement could be delayed, which could lead to a 95 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: suspension that lasts longer than eleven games. Right. Yeah, so 96 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: I imagine he will cross all those teas and dot 97 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: all those eyes to make sure that eleven games stays 98 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: eleven games. But yeah, I mean that it's right, and 99 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: for good reason. I don't know if any player has 100 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: been scrutinized the way this guy, and well, i'll tell 101 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: you why he's getting scrutinized because most players, and I 102 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: don't know if there's ever been one, who have had 103 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: an egregious act or egregious accusations the way he has. 104 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: Most of them never play again, Ray Rice. Those kind 105 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: of guys, they just are gone. Now, we've seen some 106 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: pretty atrocious things happen where guys you know, have gotten 107 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: second chances. Okay, and Mike Vick to be one of them. 108 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: Mike Vick admitted he was guilty, though oh yeah, he 109 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: was paid all the money back, served a federal prison sentence, 110 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: and signed a very modest contract when he came back. Right, 111 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: this guy got a record contract, has not proclaims that 112 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: he's still innocent and really and calls the women in 113 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: these cases triggered by his actions, absolving himself of any blame. Yeah, 114 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: that's a big difference. I am not lumping bold move, 115 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: but yeah, and that's why this whole scenario is so 116 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: distasteful to everybody not named Deshaun Watson. So, um, there 117 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: we sit, and yeah, this is that's just this stuff 118 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: about perhaps if if the therapist doesn't give him a 119 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: green light, you know this, it could delay his reinstatement. 120 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: Is not going to happen. I think he's gonna absolutely 121 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: mind his manners, say whatever it takes. Yeah, well, yeah right. 122 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: He wants to get on the field. So that's the 123 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: underlying motivation. Other NFL news and notes, the Giants steve 124 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: decimated with injuries on their offensive line. According to reporters 125 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: down in New Jersey, they're down till like their sixth 126 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 1: center on the depth chart. Max Garcia is going to 127 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: start at center against the Bengal Sunday night. In the 128 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: giants next preseason game. Brian Dable, the head coach, was 129 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: planning to play Daniel Jones, but is now uncertain in 130 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: light of all the injuries to their offensive linemen, so 131 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: he said he is revisiting whether he plays the starters 132 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: Sunday night against the Bengals. I mean, that's that's a 133 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: bad spot to be in your second preseason game. You 134 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: want to get the starters some time, but now you don't. 135 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: Now you gotta wonder if it's going to be counterproductive 136 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: because you don't have enough of them, right Yeah, especially 137 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: your quarterback. You could get the tar kicked out of 138 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: him if those guys, you know, don't perform them up 139 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: to snuff, because they're all backups, right, I mean, they're 140 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: signing guy, they're signing offensive lineman right now. They're just 141 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: signed to today, right, Josh Reevas and Chris Owens they signed. 142 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: They waived two other guys, try them out this morning, 143 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: signed them. Yeah, they cut two players in order to 144 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: sign reserve offensive linemen. So they are trouble. Laugh, they're 145 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: in trouble. Yeah, it's it's that time of year, no 146 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: question where you know, if you're gonna you get riddled 147 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: with injury. And I always suspect some systemic problem with 148 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: the offensive line room when you get guys like this 149 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: going down, another one goes down, one goes even if 150 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: the injuries are completely different twisted ankle, sore shoulder, any 151 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: of that stuff. It always comes to me. It always 152 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: comes down to something they're doing that should be better. 153 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: It's it's you. There's no explaining even the law of 154 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: averages that says, hey, so sooner or later some team's 155 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: gonna do. I don't buy it. Something's going on and 156 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be something egregious. It could be 157 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: something as simple as another twenty minutes of rest during 158 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: the day before practice, or something something weird and nuanced 159 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: like that. But something's going on. The same thing with that. 160 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: I said the other day about the the Baltimore Ravens 161 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: last year, losing twenty one guys to ir last year. 162 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: The injuries that you sustain on a given day don't 163 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: necessarily have to do with the incident that it happened in. Certainly, 164 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: that's that's the point where it gets put over the edge. 165 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: You g get an injury. It's a cumulus. It's an 166 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: accumulative effects, so that the banging and the banging and 167 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: the and the hitting and the hitting and the tackling 168 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: in the physical play of a week before that certainly 169 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: then manifests itself into these little nagging injuries that happen 170 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: three or four days after the fact. And that's what 171 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: the sports science stuff tells you. So I'm particularly one 172 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: position group. They all do the same thing all the time, right, 173 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: they're all together all the time. I always think about 174 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: these things from a bill's perspective. So you've got to 175 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: believe as thin as they are on the offensive, lying 176 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: Dabele and GM Joe Shane will be keeping a close 177 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: eye on any offensive lineman that might be clipped from 178 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: the Bill's roster next Tuesday, when they've got to get 179 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: down to eighty players. You have to make four cuts 180 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: between now and then. I'll say not to mention the 181 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: thirty other teams around the league. Yeah, that's why I 182 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: was releasing linemen as well. It's exactly what I was 183 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: gonna say, though. They when the Bills release offensive lineman 184 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: their team, you get to get in line. Yeah, there'll 185 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: be people lined up to talk to those guys. Well, 186 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: and you got thirty other teams clipping people off there 187 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: that they might find attractive as well. The problem is, 188 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: you got a roster limit of eighty after this week, 189 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: you do and what are you gonna do? Sign twenty 190 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: offensive linemen and you're not in a position now or 191 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: you can I r anybody because if you do, they're 192 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: out for the year, and you can't. You got somebody 193 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: with a soft tissue injury. You're not gonna ir them now. 194 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: They released a couple of guys you know today to 195 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: sign these two guys, So who you're gonna release to 196 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: sign six more offensive linemen, are you gonna sign You can't. 197 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: You don't want to release your starting offensive lineman who 198 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: are all hurt. Not to mention, you gotta cut four 199 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: people yourself, or five or six or who knows how, right, 200 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: five guys themselves. So it's a it's a bug. It's 201 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: a huge problem, especially when you're trying to get a 202 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: program off the ground and year one and now your 203 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: short bodies and you know what I mean, it just 204 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: compromises the whole thing. It's one more thing and it's 205 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: and here's the thing too. This isn't like you know, 206 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: thinking about your draft picks that you got coming out. 207 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: This is like on the front burner. Oh, it's today's problem. 208 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: You gotta fix solution one. You gotta do it today. 209 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: You gotta take care of it because you can't put 210 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones out there behind Jimmy Bag of Donuts, Billy 211 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: Bag of Donuts, and Tommy Schmeigmahoyton. Right, it's true, it's true, right, 212 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: And you get a spelling on that last name you 213 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: just threw out there. So you gotta have some guys 214 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: that can play, that have some chops. This they cut, 215 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: they cut Kelan, They waved wide receiver Keelan Doss like 216 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: the Giants, and defensive tackle Christopher Hinton. Right, So you're 217 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: you're robbing from Peter to pay Paul. You've got to 218 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: subtract from other positions to fill out your absences on 219 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: the offensive line. I mean, that's how bad it's got 220 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: that I'm quoting in one of the articles. You look 221 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: at the Giants news, that's all it's about. The Giants 222 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: have seen an overwhelming number of injuries this summer, which 223 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: as many as twenty six players missing practice on any 224 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: given day that falls that falls on people in athletic 225 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: training and strength, and lost two offensive linemen for the season, 226 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: Matt Gono with a neck and Marcus mckethan with an 227 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: acl Right. So yeah, they're they're in a pickle. It's 228 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see how they sort that 229 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: out and get themselves right for the start of the 230 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: regular season. The Carolina Panthers, as we know, are embroiled 231 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: in a quarterback competition between Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold. 232 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: By all accounts, Mayfield is in the lead, but Matt Rule, 233 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers head coach, has decided he is going to 234 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: start PJ Walker at quarterback in their second preseason game, 235 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold are not even going to 236 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: take the field, according to reports, So the only other 237 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: quarterback who will play for Carolina in their next preseason 238 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: game besides p J. Walker is rookie Matt Corrall. It's 239 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: a curious move. I mean, Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield 240 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: trying to battle for the starting job the week one 241 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: starting gig. According to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, only the second 242 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: and third stringers are playing. And while that's not uncommon 243 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: across the league, Denver's probably doing it. There's a few 244 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: other teams that are doing it. We know the Rams 245 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: don't play starters in the preseason. Isn't this a little 246 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: bit different because it's a quarterback competition? Like so, when 247 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: I see this, Steve, I'm wondering, has the decision already 248 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: been made? Have they already decided who their starter is? 249 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: That's kind of what I was thinking two plus or 250 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: and I would I've heard this crew here say this that, 251 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott made a big point of it, because 252 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: you want to make sure every guy on your squad, 253 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: every player from the ninetieth guy all the way to 254 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, your starting quarterback whoever, they all have to 255 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: feel like they've gotten a fair opportunity to make the team. 256 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: And that goes for your third and fourth quarterbacks. And 257 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: if Donald is Darnald is going to start and Baker's 258 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: gonna back him up, or vice versa. If Baker starts 259 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: and Donald backs him up, you know those two guys 260 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: are going to be on your team. Probably, But you 261 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: got to find out about the other two guys, and 262 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: you want to give them the chance or the thought 263 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: that they had a chance to show what they could do, 264 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: at least get something on film for other teams in case, 265 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, that kind of thing. So that maybe it 266 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: plus the fact that just what you said, I think 267 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: the Donald Baker Mayfield controversy or competition has already been decided. 268 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: I think they know who it's going to be. I think, 269 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: and I think you and I probably have a good 270 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: idea who it's going to be, because if they don't, 271 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: you're kind of doing your team at disservice here, aren't you. Yeah. 272 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: So I think that we'll get a real dose of 273 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: one of those two guys in Week three when when 274 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: the Bills are down there we got a chance to 275 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: see Baker down there that day next week, or or 276 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: both Baker, Sam or both. Do you think there's a 277 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: chance for neither. Again, they gotta play one of them, right, 278 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: they gotta play one of them. I mean there's yeah, 279 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: they gotta play one of them. And you got to 280 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: think too, that the Bills will Probably you're guessing, I 281 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: mean all of it, even us, I mean, going the 282 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: meetings and stuff. Even we're guessing as to who's gonna 283 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: play for the Bill. Probably you gotta think it's gonna 284 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: be Matt Barkley, you know, or case keenum. Josh ain't 285 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: gonna see the field after this week, So you gotta 286 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: think you're gonna get your number twos and threes all 287 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: the way across the board. So yeah, let's put the 288 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: guys in there against those guys. Right, Mayfield started last week? 289 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: How long do you play that that? I don't know. 290 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: All four quarterbacks played in the preseason opener for the 291 00:17:53,600 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: Panthers with Mayfield starting, So I would suspect the decision 292 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: has been made. And I gotta tell you, if it 293 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: is in fact Mayfield, that is not a ringing endorsement 294 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: for Sam Darnold because all it took was one preseason game. 295 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: You were that far behind that you have no chance 296 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: of catching up with two preseason games to play, to 297 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: the point where you're not even gonna play this weekend, 298 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: Like wow, right, well wow, last week Baker was four 299 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: of seven, Darneld was two of three. But the guy 300 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: who played walk was played the most was PJ. Walker, 301 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: who was ten of nineteen. And Walker was a backup 302 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: for them last year. Right, Corral was one of Matt 303 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: Corrol was one of nine. That's the rookie. Yeah, it 304 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: was probably not getting a lot of reps right now either, 305 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: if you think about it, probably not. And that's that 306 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: which is Yeah, that's what you gotta Yeah. Other NFC 307 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: South news, Buck's head coach Todd Bowles was asked about 308 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's hiatus from the team again, and speculation abounds 309 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: as to what could be so important to pull Brady 310 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: away from training camp and preparing for the upcoming season. 311 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: When Bowls was asked if there's a specific day that 312 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: Brady is expected back, he said, quote, we'll see. We'll 313 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: talk about it next week. I'm not concerned about it 314 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: right now. We're trying to practice against Tennessee. And play 315 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: a game. I said, sometime after Tennessee. There's no definitive 316 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: date for me. We'll keep in touch and find out. 317 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: But I don't know what. Here's the thing, Okay, I 318 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: think it's going to be hard enough to come up 319 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: with a reason short of a family emergency that justifies 320 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: missing training camp, especially as the quarterback of the football team. 321 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: And not only that, at the return is open ended. 322 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: There's no date, it's open ended. Do you want to 323 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: hear like Brad? What did Brady say? Well, i'll see 324 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: after Tennessee sometime. I'm not sure when we'll be after Tennessee. 325 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: Do you well, there's yeah, social so the conspiracy theorists 326 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: are out well of course, so that everything from you know, 327 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: family emergency and I said yesterday and joking that he 328 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: maybe he's having plastic surgery. But there's thinking like maybe 329 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: he's on the masked singer some TV show, right, I mean, 330 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: come on, so, yeah, I don't know. There was speculation 331 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: that his production company that's shooting a movie, you know, 332 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: he's recruited a bunch of his former players to have 333 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: some roles in the production. So they're wondering if can 334 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: you imagine if he's out shooting a movie. If he's 335 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: out shooting a movie, they can't keep that quiet. I 336 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't think so, right unless everybody, well maybe they did 337 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: sign in DA's nondisclosure agreements or is he in Bora Bora? 338 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: Like where is this guy? That's the thing? Where where 339 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: this is? Like where world is in San Diego? Yeah, 340 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: what are we doing here? That's amazing, But it's he's 341 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: dropped off the face. It's really we're gonna find out. 342 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: We will find out. But remember he dropped out a 343 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: site at the time when the tampering thing came about 344 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: and they were having joint practices with the Miami Dolphins. 345 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: He bugged out right then, so we didn't have to 346 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: answer any of the questions about about tampering and the 347 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: Stephen Ross stuff. He bugged down on all that, Sean 348 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: Payton and just disappeared like like I dream of Genie 349 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: like and then I'm just fascinated that there's no return date. 350 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no return date. What Steve. If you're 351 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: a head coach in the NFL and your quarterback says, yeah, 352 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: I gotta take off all right, you know, you gotta 353 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: take care of some things. I understand. You know, family's important. 354 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's not family. Oh um, does it really 355 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: have to be taken? Yeah, I'm sorry, it does, all right? Well, 356 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: when can you be back to day's Well, i'm not sure. 357 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: He's a ballpark Tennessee. Probably sometime after Tennessee when well, 358 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. I'll let you know. There's there's 359 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: too much the vagueness of all of this. It's weird, dude, No, 360 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: it's weird. Now. I did see somewhere somebody was saying 361 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: this had been planned since the spring. So what did 362 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: he get? A get a vacation built into training camp? Like, 363 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: is that what's happening? He's on a family vacation and 364 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: god knows where, on a beach, so you know, pink 365 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: sand beach in Indonesia? Where is this guy? That's That's 366 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: the thing. The world ain't that big anymore? No, I mean, 367 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: you got paparazzi everywhere. You gotta think he's somewhere where 368 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: nobody can. He's gotta be in like Bora Bora or 369 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: Thailand or you know, China. He's in a thatch hut 370 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: over the over the water in Bora Bora somewhere like 371 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 1: you know, one of those piling thatch huts. Even if 372 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: he goes to somebody's like Germany, there's football fanatics over there. 373 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: He's playing a game over there later this year, supposedly 374 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: if he comes back, I mean, we get to I'm 375 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: telling you, man, we get to next week, Monday two. 376 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: Say he'll be back. Then he'll be back. He said, 377 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: there's gonna be Well, if he's not, it's gonna be 378 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: deaf Con five. Sorry, the more serious deaf Con is 379 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: the lower number. It'd be a deaf Con two. That 380 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: will be that's in Tampa. So funny. I'm enjoying the 381 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: hell out of it. More bad news for the Washington 382 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: Commanders organization, The NFL has suspended former Washington athletic trainer 383 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: Ryan Vermillion indefinitely, launched a joint investigation with the NFLPA 384 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: for Million acknowledge he provided painkillers to Commander's players without 385 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: a prescription on multiple occasions, and he has an indefinite 386 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: suspension from working for any NFL club. He's entered into 387 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: a deferred prosecution agreement with the US Attorney's Office, and 388 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: what that means is that he issues a statement of 389 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: facts about what his transgressions were but he faces no charges, 390 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: so it's essentially an admission of guilt. But the question 391 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: here is are the FEDS going to use that information 392 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: to go after a bigger fish in this whole thing. 393 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. What we do know is based on 394 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera's statement today, the Commander's organization is not under 395 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: investigation for the trans aggressions. Rivera said the following in 396 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: a statement, Steve I was recently made aware that Ryan 397 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,239 Speaker 1: Vermillion has entered into an agreement to which he has 398 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: admitted wrongdoing but will not be charged as long as 399 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: he satisfies certain conditions over the next twelve months. Situations unfortunate, 400 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, blah blah. His employment has been terminated. 401 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: I want to emphasize that the US government confirmed from 402 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: the outset that had viewed the organization the Commanders as 403 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: a witness and not as a subject or target of 404 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: the investigation. We cooperated fully with investigators, will continue to 405 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: do so with any supplemental league or players association inquiry. 406 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: We continue to be committed to the health and safety 407 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: of our players. We're focused on the season ahead. So 408 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: I feel bad for Ron Rivera. You think about this 409 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: sinking ship this guy inherited as the head. How many 410 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: times has he had to come out with a statement 411 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: about something that has nothing to do with football. He 412 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: seems to be the only adult in the room. I mean, 413 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: it's every time there's a crisis, Hey, Ron, can you 414 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: put a statement out? Hey, can you go talk to him? 415 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: He's the only guy. He's the only guy that he's 416 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: the only guy in the whole organization's worth hearing from. Well, 417 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: he's the highest guy in the organization that's worth here. 418 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: They have a team president, they have a GM. What 419 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: are we doing? It's too bad. I you know, when 420 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: when I hate to be be the old guy in 421 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: the room, behind the old guy in the room. Back 422 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: in my day, Magan might days, Megan right day, the 423 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: Washington team was a respected franchise. They were, Yeah, they were, 424 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: They were emulated. Yeah, they had it going on. They 425 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: had great fans, sold out every game. They were rabid fans, 426 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: costume wearers, they had the whole thing, the songs, the 427 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: tail that everything, the stuff outside the state, everything that 428 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: everybody was there. An institution. They were an institution in 429 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: our country. And now now look at them, Look at them, 430 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: they are They are an absolute disappointment on every level. 431 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: They just can't seem to get you know, they're an 432 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: embarrassed step forward and two steps back. They were absolutely 433 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: an embarrassment for a minute. And and it was bordering 434 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: on ugly. Yeah, if not, if not outright, yeah, if 435 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: not outright, an atrocity to talk about the workplace environment. 436 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: It was ugly. It was horrible. Look, that's that is 437 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: probably the most precipitous drop, prolonged drop in franchise stature 438 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: I have ever seen. I can't think of another franchise 439 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: that has dropped to lower depths than the Washington franchise 440 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: from where they started back winning world championships to where 441 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: they are now. It's it is absolutely embarrassing for them. 442 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah did you say? And it's And it's the pictures 443 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: coming out of their training camp. They got three people there, 444 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: three fans. They three saw. I saw something on social 445 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: media that was gauging fan enthusiasm for the upcoming season 446 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: based on the amount of of betting that was done 447 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: by teams fan bases. You know, they're tracking. You know, Oh, 448 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: this person plays a bet and it goes back to 449 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: some account holder in Buffalo. Okay, that's a Buffalo fan 450 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: Washington was dead last by a mile. Their fans are 451 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: so disengaged they're not even betting on them, better and 452 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: different thing, betting against them. That's what I mean, good, 453 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: better and different. They're not even betting if it's your team. 454 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: It is full blown apathy. I don't know. I have 455 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: never placed a wager. I have never and probably never 456 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: will place a sports wager ever ever, But it would 457 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: seem to me from a from a totally novice outside 458 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: betting on your team, betting the game and all that stuff. Okay, better, 459 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: but you'd almost never, even if you knew, you'd almost 460 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: feel sick betting against your own team, right, I mean, 461 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: doesn't that the way it works? And even if you 462 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: know our team were, some people might be more. It 463 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: might be prioritizing self interest. So if they know their 464 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: team intimately and they know it's sad, maybe they do 465 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: bet again. I'm sure. I don't know, but it feels bad, right, 466 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: I guess in some level. I guess that would be 467 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: have like the chilling effects. So if nobody's betting anything 468 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: pulling the money in though, right, if nobody's betting anything 469 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: on that team from that area, it's because they feel bad, 470 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: about betting against their own team. I think it's full 471 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: blown apathy inside. Oh my gosh, that's the worst. Yeah, 472 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: that's even worse. It is. The apathy is the worst. 473 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: Let's talk about something a little bit more positive as 474 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: of this moment, and maybe it's gone up since now. 475 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: Bill's Mafia, in typical Bill's Mafia fashion, has raised more 476 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: than one hundred nine thousand dollars for the Punt Foundation, 477 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: which was a foundation started here in Buffalo by Bill's 478 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: former punter Brian Mormon that battles against pediatric cancer. More 479 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: than one hundred and nine thousand dollars has been raised 480 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: by Bill's Mafia in honor of Luke Knox, Dawson Knox's 481 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: younger brother, who tragically passed away earlier this week. Gwen Meisiak, 482 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: who runs the Punt Foundation, has told some local reporters 483 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: that a majority of the fifty five hundred plus donations 484 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: in the last twenty four hours have been made in 485 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: sixteen dollars and eighty eight cent increments, those being the 486 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: jersey numbers of Luke Knox sixteen and Dawson Knox eighty eight. 487 00:30:54,840 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: They're averaging ten donations a minute, so awesome. Once again 488 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: Bill's Mafia taking a very tragic situation and trying to 489 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: pull something positive out of it. And our MSG viewers 490 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: are seeing the photo of Dawson, who has been very 491 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: involved with the Pun Foundation since he came to town 492 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: as a draft choice in twenty nineteen. Has really been 493 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: a big supporter of the Pun Foundation and great to 494 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: see that on the part of Bill's mafia. When tragedy strikes, 495 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: Bill's Mafia steps up, so it is no surprise they 496 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: have done so here again, So salute to you. Brown 497 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: family made a donation as well this morning, so we're 498 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: on board with that. And yeah, if you haven't you can. 499 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: You can just look up Pun Foundation online, find it 500 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: quickly and then there's a donation link right there, and 501 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: you want to fire off sixteen dollars and eighty eight cents, 502 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 1: go for it. We'll see how high we can get 503 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: the numbers on that. I know that that Dawson, with 504 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: all the work that he for the Punt Foundation, would 505 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: be very touched by what's happened. I don't know if 506 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: he's been informed yet. Obviously he's still grieving with his 507 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: family and they have business to take care of obviously. 508 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: On that front. But when the time comes, I'm sure 509 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: they'll inform him and I know that he'll be touched 510 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: by that very deeply. So good job, Bills mafia. We 511 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: have to take a break, but we want to remind 512 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: you the OBL Friday fan mail bag is open. You 513 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: got questions about the preseason game tomorrow, the Bills in general, 514 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: the upcoming roster cuts on Tuesday to get down to eighty, 515 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: or anything else involving the NFL. Fire off your questions now, 516 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: either on the phones at eight O three five fifty 517 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: eight fifty two five fifty, or on the tweetchet at 518 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Back 519 00:32:46,920 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: in a moment here on one Bills Live. All right, 520 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: welcome back to one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 521 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: with you, and the OBL fan Friday mail bag is open. 522 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: Any of your questions about the Bills, potential roster cuts, 523 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: how position battles are going. All that stuff is free 524 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: game for you to ask us at eight three fifty 525 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty open phone lines for you are there, 526 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: or you can hit us up on the tweet sheet 527 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 1: at one Bills Live. Steve, I put a right up 528 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: up on Buffalo Bills dot com today. Five players to 529 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: watch in the Bills Broncos preseason game number two. Now, 530 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are more than these five, but based 531 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: on how training camp in the preseason has gone thus far, 532 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: these are the five players I pointed out. You tell 533 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: me what you think, Okay, Linebacker Tyrrell Dodson, cornerback Kaier Elam, 534 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver Isaiah Hodgins, tight end O J. Howard, and 535 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: defensive end Greg Rousseau. Do you want reason why? Well, 536 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: I probably say I can surmise him. To go ahead 537 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: and share him. Go from the top. Why the first one? 538 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: Don Dodson did not play in the preseason opener. Um 539 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: he was dealing with a nick and after the performances 540 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: by Terrell, Bernard and balin Spector in the preseason opener, 541 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: I think Dodson's got to show something in the game 542 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: tomorrow to remind everybody, Hey, I'm the guy you want 543 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: to be the next A. J. Klein at the linebacker 544 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: position behind Edmundson Milano. I'm the guy special team stalwart. Yeah. 545 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: But also if we're playing bass defense, I'm the third 546 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: linebacker on the field, or if Edmunds or Milana should 547 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: go down to an injury. I'm the next guy in. 548 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: I think he's got to he's got to prove that 549 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: on Saturday. All right, what about Kai Kaier. I chose because, 550 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: as we heard Leslie Fraser say earlier this week, while 551 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: he was very encouraged by the performances of Elam and 552 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: Benford for that matter, now they have to take another step. 553 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: Go out and do it again. Prove to me that 554 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: you're not going to be an up and down rookie. 555 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: Prove to me that you can bring some consistency to 556 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: your forget forget forget the I know you're good enough, 557 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: forget the splash play, You're talented enough. Show me the 558 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: consistency down to down, series to series consistently steady. So 559 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: that's that's on the to do list. I think for 560 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,479 Speaker 1: Kyer Elam and for Isaiah Hodges, I get that one right. 561 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: Had a very good showing in the first game, was productive, 562 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: showed good hands. Now build off of that because you 563 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: have to grind at that position. That's a very crowded 564 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver room. And the thing that I'll point out 565 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: to fans is keep an eye out for where he's 566 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: going to be utilized on special teams because I think 567 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: the coaching staff is trying to see if we are 568 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: going to consider this guy on offense. There's a very 569 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: good chance most weeks he's not going to be factoring 570 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: in on offense. But if he's active, can we use 571 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: him on special teams units? He still has to prove 572 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: himself capable there. And they sprinkled him in on a 573 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: couple last week. Does he play on more units this week? 574 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: I think that will be a telltale sign as to 575 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: how much they're considering him for the active roster. Yeah, 576 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 1: and you talk about you know, Hodgens and the kind 577 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: of player he is. You know, he's he's big, you 578 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean. He's Yes, he's six three, two 579 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: oh one. He said he's playing a two fifteen. Now. 580 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: He's busted up a little bit. He doesn't play that big, 581 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: hasn't in the past, and he's doing better now. I 582 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: think he is doing better now than he has in 583 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: the pain. But that's you know, that's been the issue 584 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: with him. And but a guy at that height and 585 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: that size, you need to you need to play big. 586 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: You need to play to that size because that's your advantage. 587 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: None of those dbs. He's gonna be playing and none 588 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: of them are six three, none of them, and none 589 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: of them are probably going to be too close, you know, 590 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: two fifteen to twenty either nobody's gonna to ten even 591 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: none of them are gonna be that So you got 592 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: to use that to your advantage because that's something. As 593 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: fast and as strong as they might be, they are 594 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: not that big. So you got to play to that size. 595 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: If you can do that, you've always got an advantage because, 596 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: like I say, none of them are gonna be that big, right. 597 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: I think what you and I have had this conversation 598 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: more than once about Isaiah Hodgens. The biggest difference between 599 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: him and many of the other receivers on Buffalo's roster 600 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: is his degree of separation from the defender isn't always 601 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: as large as it is for some other receivers on 602 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 1: this roster Stefan Diggs, Gabriel Davis, Isaiah McKenzie, Jamison Crowder. 603 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: These guys separate from defenders. They make the window in 604 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: which the quarterback can throw into large, like it's a 605 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: bigger window because of the separation they get from the defender. 606 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: Hodgins can get separation at times, but I don't think 607 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: to the degree and to the size that a lot 608 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: of the other receivers can. So what happens that makes 609 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: it more of a contested throw, and contested throws sometimes 610 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: wind up being in completions or at worst interceptions. And 611 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: so his process in being a better separator, I think 612 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: is important too in this sequation, I think what they 613 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 1: what probably happens in postseason. And let's let's remember Hodgens 614 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: history here his first year three years which would this 615 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: will be his third year, So it's two years ago, 616 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: his rookie season, COVID year he was shoulder surgery. Yeah, 617 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: so he was on the practice squad, but most of 618 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: his year was compromised by the shoulder. Last year he 619 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: was on the practice squad, probably a little disappointed at that, 620 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: got up for one game, didn't play though I didn't 621 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: think he got in the game. He had one, he 622 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,959 Speaker 1: had maybe a couple of special team snaps. Yeah, and 623 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: probably a disappointment to him. But I think one of 624 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: the things they probably told him was they listen, you 625 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 1: gotta play up to your side, you gotta play big, 626 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: you gotta get there. And to your point about getting 627 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: something he needed to work on his releases is probably 628 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: what they told him so and how hard did he 629 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: work on him? Did he get better? Certainly he seems 630 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: to be playing better than we have seen him in 631 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: his career here in Buffalo we have, of course, his 632 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: first year we didn't see much of him at all 633 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: except at practice once in a while, and last year. 634 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: So this year the guy is playing better. He when 635 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: we watch him, he gets better results consistently than he 636 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: has in the first two years we saw him. He 637 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: always had good hands right always, So how good has 638 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: he gotten remains to be seen. What are they what 639 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: are they seeing him? Can he play special teams? Can 640 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: he can he help as a six three two ten 641 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: fifteen pound guy who's a matchup problem? Can he be 642 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: a matchup problem on special teams? Do well enough? Can 643 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: he run well enough? And you'd think as a wide 644 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: out he he should be able to. But and this 645 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: is you know, the ultimate who knows until you see it? 646 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: Does he want to? Right? Does he want does he? 647 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: Is he willing to be a hard worker and an 648 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: attitude guy on special teams? Kumarro is yeah, you know 649 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: guys out there, you know sarrand Neil is Sorrand. Neil 650 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: is a great athlete, who wants to play safety and 651 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: now he plays special teams and you know what, guys 652 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: got a nice career going right, and actually is more 653 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: of a corner now than a safety. So yeah, and 654 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of that's the kind of athlete he is, right, 655 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: And so you gotta think a guy like like, you know, 656 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: these guys who are athlete Kumarro and sarrand Neil and 657 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 1: these guys who you don't think they want to play 658 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: wide out or corner like the of course they do, 659 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: but they know this. It's better beyond the team and 660 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: playing special teams and practicing corner and wide receiver all 661 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: all week and being on the team than not wanting 662 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: to play special teams and being a wide receiver who's 663 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 1: out on a high school field trying to stay in shape. Yeah. 664 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: Fourth player on the list, I had Oj Howard. He 665 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: played a lot last week. He may play more this 666 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: week because I don't think any of us really expect 667 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: Dawson Knox to play tomorrow. I would assume he's with 668 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: his family right now. We have not got an official 669 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: word on that, but I would assume he is with 670 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: his family and will be for the foreseeable future. Here, 671 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: you know, as they grieve as a family after the 672 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 1: laws of his younger brother. So that means OJ Howard 673 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: might play even more than anticipated. And I think he's 674 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: got to put in an encouraging performance here. He has 675 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: to demonstrate he is on track to make contributions for 676 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: this offense at the tight end position in all facets, 677 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: whether it's blocking, receiving, you know, whatever it is. He Yeah. 678 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 1: For as optimistic as you and I were about OJ 679 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: Howard when we saw him sign, and you know, watch 680 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: him in practice, and you know, you get a load 681 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: of how big he is and his athleticism. You think, okay, well, 682 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: you know we'll see it. As of yet, he has 683 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: yet to flash. Um, we've talked about most of the 684 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: rookie class more than we've talked about OJ Howard. Yeah, 685 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: and you know this will be his champ. He's gonna 686 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: get a lot a ton of snaps. You got a 687 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: lot of ton of snaps last week. We'll see how 688 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: many targets he gets and how he does. But I'm 689 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think it's really interesting to see 690 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 1: what he can contribute, if anything. And I think if 691 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: you don't see it, you know why you bring why 692 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 1: is he here. You know, Um, he's got to he's 693 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,240 Speaker 1: got to bring something to the table because if Dawson 694 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: Knox misses him, it's got him. You need some you 695 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: don't want any drop off. It's got to show up soon. 696 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 1: And yeah, exactly, it starts on Saturday. Yeah, we got 697 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: one more player on the list of the five players 698 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: to watch on Buffalo Bills dot Com. Will tell you 699 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: who that is next here on one Bills Live presented 700 00:42:53,239 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, we 701 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: got one more player on our five players to watch 702 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: list on Buffalo Bills dot com for tomorrow's preseason game 703 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 1: against the Denver Broncos. It is Greg Rousseau Steve. And 704 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, this is a guy that is going to 705 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: be on the roster, but I think on the to 706 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: do list for him as far as tomorrow's game goes 707 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: is you know, as we know, didn't play in the 708 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: first one. This is his first opportunity to show how 709 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: much his game has grown since his rookie season. We 710 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: know he's stronger. We saw him here in the spring. 711 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy clearly added about eight to ten 712 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: pounds a lean muscle mass to his frame. How much 713 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: has his pass rushing repertoire expanded, That's what I want 714 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, I'm intrigued by him. He's the I 715 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: would say, probably the most impactful defensive lineman they've taken 716 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: in the draft out of at Oliver, Boogie Basham, Greg 717 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: Russo Aja Panessa. Greg Russo is the one who got 718 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 1: the most snaps last year, and it was his first year, 719 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: so he as much as a guy could in this 720 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: defense and this philosophy the way they rotate guys through. 721 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,760 Speaker 1: He's the one who were actually splashed the biggest last 722 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: year because it was his first year and he got 723 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: a bulk of the snaps. I mean, the guy was 724 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,479 Speaker 1: out there. He was the defensive player of the Week 725 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs in Week five. As a rookie, he's 726 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: got an upside that seems to be he seems to 727 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: be on trend reaching. It'll be interesting to see what 728 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: Boogie Basham does as well. I think both those guys 729 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: are intriguing. Boogie had the play last week off the edge, 730 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: strip sacked and fumbled recovered for a touchdown, So all 731 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: of that stuff's going on. Greg Russo is a guy 732 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 1: who also most notably has been at the feat of 733 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: von Miller listening to him, Punti and Bruce Smith. When 734 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: Bruce has been in town, the big man was was 735 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: here given these guys lessons as well, talking to him 736 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: about what their his thought process is one of the 737 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: things that he did. And I think Bruce's who never 738 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 1: got enough credit for this, was really intelligent about why 739 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: things worked for him and why they might not work 740 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: for somebody else, but what might work for somebody else. 741 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: Bruce doesn't get enough credit for that, So him, you know, 742 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: expounding on that to guys like Rousseau, and hearing von 743 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 1: Miller say the same thing both, you know, nobody's got 744 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: more than Bruce, so but von Miller's got a ton 745 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,919 Speaker 1: of them. So having Rousseau at the feet of those guys, 746 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: listening to those guys and listening to those guys talk 747 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: to each other, let alone having them talk to him 748 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: is can be as instructive as well. So I'm with you, Brownie. 749 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 1: I think I have high hopes for Rousseau this year. 750 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: You know, hopefully we won't see like a sophomore slump 751 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: or anything, but but I still think his upside is 752 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 1: to be seen yet. And I think he's one of 753 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: those guys that steadily got more, got better and better 754 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: last year in his rookie season, and I think that 755 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,439 Speaker 1: should and probably will continue. Yeah. So those are our five. 756 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 1: If you have questions about any of them, send them in. 757 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: We do have a bunch of questions now coming in 758 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheets, So we will get to that, 759 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: which is always is presented by Corrigan Moving Systems, the 760 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. And let's 761 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: get to the top of this sheet. And Nick leads 762 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: us off by asking, do you think the decision to 763 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: play the starters this weekend had anything to do with 764 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 1: it being the final home preseason game so the fans 765 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: can watch. Otherwise it would seem to make much more 766 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: sense to play them in the third game closer to 767 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: the regular season. Yeah. I think I wonder if the 768 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: fact that the opener is four days earlier than it 769 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: usually is played a role in the decision to play 770 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: starters in the second preseason Fay, the Thursday start date 771 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: is the thing that did it. Yeah, it starts four 772 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: days earlier than usual. Right, And here's the thing, And 773 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 1: here's what that means. If you have a preseason game, 774 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,439 Speaker 1: which they do next a week from it's a week 775 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 1: from Saturday, is it? Or a week from Fridays? It 776 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: on Friday. It's Friday. They have a game on Friday. 777 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,919 Speaker 1: Sunday is Wednesday of the game week of game week 778 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 1: for week one, right Sunday is Wednesday. They're three days ahead, 779 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: so they don't want to play them on Friday, because 780 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: then you're stuck. If somebody get tweaks in ankle or something, 781 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 1: they're done. Got six days cover. It's six days to 782 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: your next game. You only have one day off on 783 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: Saturday next week, and then you're right back in it. 784 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: And it's Wednesday plus cuts practice squad guys. I remember, 785 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,879 Speaker 1: I say it every year. They're gonna come in here 786 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 1: on Sunday for practice, which is a Wednesday practice next 787 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: week after that final preseason game, and the rookies are 788 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: gonna look around, going where did everybody go? I mean, 789 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,399 Speaker 1: we got like twenty five. It looks like you got 790 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: twenty five guys on the field to play. I was like, 791 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: and this has got you know, coming from you know, 792 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: Georgia and Clemson all where all these guys came from. 793 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: There's like one hundred and fifty guys on the team. 794 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: You get to the pros and you get down to 795 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: fifty three, it's like the sidelines vacant. Well even with 796 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 1: a sixteen man practice squad, right, there's no and plus 797 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: there's nobody gonna be there. The practice squad is like 798 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 1: the next day right where they formulated. So they're gonna 799 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: get out there to stretch and it's like, how are 800 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 1: you even gonna how are you even going to practice? 801 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: So they got all that going on, trying to get 802 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: ready for the World Champions Thursday. Yeah, so and it's 803 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 1: their first game. Oh my god. Yeah, So it's a 804 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: lot going on. So they don't want to they don't 805 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,959 Speaker 1: want to have, you know, guys coming off a game, 806 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: a Friday game. They don't need to add any more headaches. Yeah, 807 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: you know what, just just sit down on that bench, 808 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,760 Speaker 1: don't move, and watch what's going on and think about 809 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 1: Thursday's game and getting ready for it, because it's there's 810 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:11,399 Speaker 1: a lot in there that this week coming up. It's 811 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 1: it's they're gonna be in over their head a lot 812 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: of these guys. I'm they're gonna pick up the pace 813 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,439 Speaker 1: of practice, they're gonna get ready for a game. They're 814 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: gonna travel on Thursday, Oh my gosh, Yeah, this is this. 815 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 1: This week is the culmination of training camp, the offseason, 816 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: the draft, the combine, the OTA's and of course training camp. 817 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: It's all culminates this week and you can feel it. 818 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: It's it's a big, big week in the NFL all 819 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 1: over and these guys. I think these young guys are 820 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: gonna sense it. Yeah, we have to take a break here. 821 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 1: We will get to more of your questions from the 822 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 1: obl Fan Friday mail bag. But first when we come back, 823 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna find out who the heck is up for 824 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: the Broncos. Tomorrow we'll be checking in with the writer 825 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 1: that covers the Broncos for the athletic Mister Cosminer is 826 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna be joining us next. We'll catch up with him 827 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. It's 828 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:34,879 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been 829 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind 830 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 1: of a dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. 831 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: We're not even in the strated beer of normalcy. Now 832 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: we're number two on a Friday. Chris Brown Ce task 833 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 1: here with you One Bills Live as we get set 834 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: for preseason game number two Bills Bronchos, and while this 835 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 1: iss will be playing for the Bills, it does not 836 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: sound as though that will be the case for the Broncos. 837 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 1: But here to confirm that, along with a whole lot 838 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: of other stuff concerning the Denver Broncos, is Broncos writer 839 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: for the Athletic Nick Cosmier kind enough to join us, Nick, 840 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 1: how you doing, Welcome to the show. Thanks a lot, 841 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: appreciate you having me. Yeah, So, why don't we begin there? 842 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: Has coach Hackett completely adopted the well Coach la Fleur 843 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: style of preseason starter play or lack thereof, He certainly 844 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 1: seems to have done that, and notably, the Broncos also 845 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,280 Speaker 1: brought three assistants over from the Rams Super Bowl winning 846 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,720 Speaker 1: staff who did it the same way under Sean McVeagh. 847 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: And that's just been the formula for the Broncos. You know, 848 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 1: they go hard during their you know, their padded days 849 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: and practice, get a lot of teamwork in, and they're 850 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,240 Speaker 1: viewing that as their their evaluation, their ramp up period 851 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 1: toward the regular season and are using the preseason for um, 852 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, second and third team players and guys who 853 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 1: might still be battling for starting spots to get those 854 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: opportunities in those games. But I don't think you'll spe 855 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 1: seeing many starting Broncos in Buffalo's Saturday morning. Every time 856 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: a team switches head coaches, there's always the obligatory comparisons 857 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: to what it was like under Vic Fangio and that 858 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 1: kind of thing. How has Nate Hackett handled that that 859 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: transition and what's the perception of Nate Hackett is compared 860 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 1: to the last guy they had, or the time before 861 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: or Nick Nate Hackett as a first time head coach, 862 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 1: how's that going? Yeah, you know, you couldn't really have 863 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: two um more varying personalities than than Vic Fangio and 864 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett. Um, certainly, and that seems to be the 865 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 1: way it goes. As you know, Steve, you hire, you 866 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: fire staff, you tend to you know, you tend to 867 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,280 Speaker 1: go kind of with the opposite um. But but players 868 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: have raved about the way that that he coaches, these 869 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 1: um sort of regeneration days that he calls them where 870 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: they have these jobs throughs in the middle of training camp, 871 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 1: which we certainly didn't see a year ago, you know, 872 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: kind of has them playing, you know, playing games at 873 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 1: the beginning of meetings, you know, having these quizzes, you know, 874 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 1: just doing things, and I think a little bit of 875 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: a different way with a lot more energy that I 876 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: think right now players have gravitated toward. And as we're 877 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: mentioning talking about the preseason, big fan Joel played his 878 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,360 Speaker 1: starters throughout the preseason during his three years as the coach. 879 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: So there's definitely definitely a varying style that the players 880 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 1: seem to really be enjoying. But of course it'll all 881 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: come to fruition on the field. What does it look 882 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,919 Speaker 1: like then? What is the general consensus there in Denver, Nick, 883 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,359 Speaker 1: at least from the fan base, because you know, it's 884 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 1: not only a first time head coach in Nathaniel Hackett, 885 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: you're also turk in the first time OC, a first 886 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: time defensive coordinator. And I realize, you know, the special 887 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,720 Speaker 1: teams coach had been that before in his previous coaching days, 888 00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: I believe for a year with the Tampa eight Bucks. 889 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: But what do they make of this staff which is 890 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: made up completely of first time or is in their 891 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: respective roles. I think there is m maybe a slight 892 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: bit of trepidation from from some sections of the fan base. 893 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 1: You know, I did a mail bag the other day 894 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: where that question popped up a couple of times of 895 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, what are the comparisons to this? You know, 896 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 1: you've seen it recently. Some young head coaches have gone 897 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 1: with veteran coordinators. To start with, McVeigh had Wade Phillips 898 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 1: with him in Los Angeles. You know, Matt Lafleur when 899 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: he took over, he hired Hackett, who had previous OC experience, 900 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,720 Speaker 1: and he also hired Mike Petton to coach the defense, 901 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: who obviously had experience in that role and as a 902 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 1: head coach. So um, it is a little bit different 903 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: for the Broncos. Kyle Shanahan is probably the closest recent 904 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 1: comparison in twenty seventeen when he took the job with 905 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Um, you know, he was the 906 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: de facto OC, you know, went with a first time 907 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. They went six and ten in that first year. 908 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,919 Speaker 1: The big difference here is Russell Wilson, and I think 909 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 1: that's what ultimately kind of assages some of these concerns 910 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: is that you have a staff that, while they haven't 911 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 1: been in their exact positions, they have a lot of 912 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 1: experience at various stops, but Russell Wilson is what they 913 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: hope will kind of tie this whole thing together, that 914 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 1: it's a collaborative experience, and having him in that most 915 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: important role in the organization will help assage some of 916 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 1: those learning curves that the staff will inevitably have well 917 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,240 Speaker 1: given all those and you know, of course, here in Buffalo, 918 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 1: we're sitting here on top of the highest expectations that 919 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,239 Speaker 1: maybe the franchise has ever had. What are the expectations 920 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:34,959 Speaker 1: for the Broncos. I mean, they're sitting in the middle 921 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 1: of a division that is the most competitive, at least 922 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 1: on paper, the most competitive division in football. What are 923 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 1: the expectations for how good this team could be, might be, 924 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: or will probably be. Well, internally, they're not shying away 925 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 1: from championship style expectations, which is certainly a difference around 926 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: here from what it's been recently. Obviously, this is a 927 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 1: team that won Super Bowl fifty him Von Miller's incredible 928 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,360 Speaker 1: game against the Panthers, But since then, six straight seasons 929 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 1: with no playoff appearances, five straight seasons with losing records, 930 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 1: and then you come in and you have this season 931 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,879 Speaker 1: of just absolute change right, you got. We talked about 932 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,720 Speaker 1: the coaching staff a little bit, We talked about Russell Wilson. 933 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,359 Speaker 1: The Broncos also were sold to brand new owners who 934 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 1: have been introduced over the last couple of weeks. So 935 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: the newness for this franchise, you know, the level of 936 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 1: change is pretty incredible, and with that comes a lot 937 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 1: of expectations. Steve, you mentioned that the division is what 938 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,920 Speaker 1: could potentially, I think, hold this team back. Every single 939 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: one of those games is going to be a dog fight, 940 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 1: and how you are able to kind of handle that 941 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,319 Speaker 1: division is going to determine whether you can get into 942 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs and then what you do from there. I 943 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 1: think it's realistic to expect this team to get back 944 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: into the playoffs for the first time since twenty fifteen, 945 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 1: but I also think that this is probably going to 946 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 1: take a year before it reaches sort of it's, you know, 947 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 1: it's full steam ahead type of mode. Right because of 948 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,799 Speaker 1: the new coaching stap Russell Wilson playing with a new 949 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 1: team for the first time in his career, I think 950 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 1: it's fair to expect there is going to be some 951 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 1: bumps in the road, and while I still think they 952 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,760 Speaker 1: will be a playoff team this year. I think turning 953 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 1: into a real championship contender is going to take probably 954 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: another offseason, you know, for them to fully kind of 955 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: clip that all together. Projected as one of the starting 956 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: corners is a guy that Bill's fans are familiar with 957 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: in Ronald Darby, you know, a new addition to the 958 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: roster for Denver this year or was it last year? 959 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember last year, last year? What has 960 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: been the general review of his play, you know, last 961 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 1: year in a different scheme and now coming into this 962 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 1: season and a new one. Well, he had a really 963 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: strong camp going into last year, but then was hurt 964 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 1: in the season. Opener had to miss about four games, 965 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 1: I believe with a hamstring injury, and when when he 966 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 1: got back, it took him a little bit to to 967 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 1: kind of, I think get into the flow of Big 968 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: Fangio's defense. There was there's some russ there. Ultimately he 969 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: had he had a good season, but dealt with a 970 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: couple more injuries and then has been injured again in camp. 971 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 1: And that has sort of been the knock on Darby 972 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: during his career is that he hasn't been able to 973 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 1: stay fully healthy for long stretches. They really need him 974 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: to be productive this year. They need him to be 975 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: on the field. Obviously, Pat Surtan is already developing into 976 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: one of the best cornerbacks in the league, but they 977 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 1: need Darby on the other side to really be effective. 978 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: They drafted a young cornerback out of pitt named to 979 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 1: Marie Mathis, who they like a lot. But again, as 980 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 1: you guys know what the rookie cornerbacks, most of them 981 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: takes some time. Curtan not included because he was a 982 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 1: stud from the start. But they need Darby to i think, 983 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: be healthy and be able to contribute in order to 984 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 1: kind of reach the goals that they want to want 985 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 1: to reach on defense. Before we move on to other things, 986 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 1: we may as well talk about the game tomorrow. Josh 987 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 1: Johnson's going to get the snaps. I mean, certainly, Russ 988 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: Wilson's never been one to miss a game. He's been durable. 989 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: It's been one of his hallmarks, has been able to 990 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: he shows up every week. But if you're going to 991 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 1: talk about who's backing him up, Josh Johnson might be 992 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 1: the guy that we see tomorrow in this game. Yeah, 993 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 1: he'll start, and it's an important it's an important, I 994 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 1: think gauge four Josh Johnson. As you mentioned, the Broncos 995 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 1: gave away what they did five draft picks, a couple 996 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: of starters in order to sign Russell Wilson, and a 997 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 1: big part of that is because of his durability. It's 998 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 1: something that you can count on year in and year out, 999 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, kind of his fluke finger injury last year notwithstanding. 1000 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 1: But all that being said, you always have to account 1001 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: for the fact that your starter might go down. And 1002 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 1: for Josh Johnson, he had a great debut preseason debut 1003 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,920 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys last week, started off a little rocky, 1004 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,920 Speaker 1: but then completed thirteen of his last fourteen passes. But 1005 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 1: that was against Dallas's second and third teamers. If he 1006 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 1: gets to go against some Buffalo starters on Saturday, I 1007 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 1: think it's going to be a real important test for 1008 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 1: him for the staff to see that he is the 1009 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: guy that's going to be capable to sort of help 1010 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,400 Speaker 1: them tread water in the event that Russell Wilson does 1011 00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 1: have to miss any time this year. So so I 1012 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 1: look for him to kind of view this as a 1013 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 1: kind of his biggest game potentially, you know, of the year, 1014 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 1: because certainly the Broncos hope that they don't have to 1015 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 1: see him in the regular season. What can you say 1016 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 1: about the tight end position, because Noah Fant went the 1017 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: other way in the Russell Wilson trade. He's in Seattle. Now, 1018 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 1: I know they drafted Greg Dulsiche, but if I remember right, 1019 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 1: like the last I saw, he was dealing with some 1020 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 1: injuries in training camp. So how has that position shaken 1021 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 1: out here as as they get set to fill it 1022 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 1: in the absence of Fan, who's now a Seahawk. Yeah, 1023 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 1: they kind of prepared this season for a third year player, 1024 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 1: Albert okawab Nam, who was a fourth round pick a 1025 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,919 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, to kind of step into Fan's role, 1026 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: and in a lot of ways he's done that and 1027 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: it has been really exciting for Russell Wilson. He's a big, 1028 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 1: kind of one of those mismatch type guys who's very 1029 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 1: fast up the scene, has good quickness in his route running, 1030 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 1: has great has really good hands. So he's done a 1031 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 1: lot of that from a pass catching perspective in camp. 1032 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 1: He's got a long way to go as a blocker. 1033 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 1: You saw some of that in the preseason opener against 1034 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Had a couple missed assignments, you know that 1035 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,439 Speaker 1: led to some busted plays. That's one area where they're 1036 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: really trying to get him better. The team is really 1037 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 1: high on Greg Dulst's, as you mentioned, the third round 1038 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 1: pick out of UCLA, but he has not really been 1039 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 1: healthy at all this offseason. He suffered that hamstring injury 1040 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 1: almost immediately after arriving in Denver and hasn't really done 1041 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 1: team stuff during training camp. They expect, they expect ultimately 1042 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 1: for him to be kind of a similar mold to 1043 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 1: Okaway Bunam, but I think at this point the expectations 1044 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 1: for him should probably be tempered until they can see 1045 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 1: him consistently on the field. So Okaway Bunam has a 1046 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 1: real chance here to kind of step in as a 1047 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 1: big target for Russell Wilson, particularly in the red zone. 1048 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 1: So we've seen Russell Wilson arrive in town. How is 1049 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 1: the chemistry between guys like Courtland Sutton, Jerry Judy, the 1050 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 1: first line guys. How has that gone in his acclamation 1051 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 1: of those guys coming in And what are those guys 1052 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 1: said about his arm and the way he throws it, 1053 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. How's that going? Yeah, Well, you know, 1054 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 1: you got to remember with these receivers, these guys, even 1055 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: the ones that are going into their third season, like 1056 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 1: like a Jerry Judy, had already played with three, four, five, 1057 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 1: six quarterbacks. That's just how how much turnover there has 1058 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 1: been at the position since Peyton Manning retired after the 1059 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen season. But so what they're seeing with with 1060 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,439 Speaker 1: Wilson is just a complete change. They went to San 1061 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: Diego to his place in San Diego almost immediately after 1062 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 1: the trade went down, to have like a little bit 1063 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 1: of a mini camp there where he got to know 1064 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,320 Speaker 1: his receivers. They spent time in his own like you know, 1065 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 1: film room that he has their running routes on the field. 1066 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 1: So they kind of developed that really quickly, and then 1067 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 1: went back to San Diego after mini camp and before 1068 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 1: training camp began. So they've already had these two extra 1069 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 1: like mini camps. And that's on top of these just meetings, 1070 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 1: these these Wilson led meetings that he has with his 1071 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 1: receivers and his offensive lineman every single morning at six am. 1072 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 1: And so it's just been a wholesale change for these receivers. 1073 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 1: And I think what you're starting to see over the 1074 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks of camp is that that chemistry 1075 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: is starting to have a tangible impact on the way 1076 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 1: that they're playing on the field, particularly Courtland Sutton. I 1077 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 1: think ever since Tim Patrick went down with an ACL 1078 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 1: injury toward the start of camp, Sutton has had this 1079 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 1: developing chemistry with Russell Wilson that I think portends a 1080 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 1: really strong season for that duo. Sutton is a guy 1081 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: who was a pro bowler in twenty nineteen, tore his 1082 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 1: ACL in twenty twenty, was kind of still dealing with 1083 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 1: that last year, but appears very healthy and I think 1084 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,920 Speaker 1: he's going to have a big year with Russell Wilson. 1085 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: Last one I've got for you, Nick is, I know 1086 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 1: it's still a little bit of a ways off, but 1087 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 1: it is going to be prime time if I remember 1088 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: right the opener, and we know the NFL does this 1089 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: all the time. Russell Wilson against the Seahawks in Week one. 1090 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Has he been asked about it yet? If so, what's 1091 01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,960 Speaker 1: been his response. He's been asked a couple of times. Um, 1092 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, right right after right after that schedule came out, 1093 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 1: and then again kind of at the beginning of training camp. Um, 1094 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 1: And you know he's kind of stuck at the same 1095 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 1: line that it's going to be for him, Um, you know, 1096 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 1: a chance to go to a place that was really 1097 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 1: special for him for ten years, right, had a lot 1098 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 1: of roots in that community. Um. But but I but 1099 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, the kind of understanding that I've gotten around 1100 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: here is he really doesn't want to talk a lot 1101 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 1: about his separation from Seattle. He has been, um, kind 1102 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 1: of very focused on moving forward. Once he made the 1103 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 1: decision that he was going to, um, you know, kind 1104 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,480 Speaker 1: of accept this trade or or work to be traded 1105 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 1: um with Seattle, that that he was going to kind 1106 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 1: of close that chapter. And you know, all that being said, 1107 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 1: when when when it actually occurs, when he you know, 1108 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,480 Speaker 1: he lands in Seattle, and when he walks into that building, 1109 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: it'd be impossible, if you're a human being, not to 1110 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 1: have some of that pull of all that they did 1111 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: there in the ten years. But I think he has 1112 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 1: tried the best he can to downplay what that's going 1113 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 1: to be. So I think the real test will be 1114 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 1: when he when he actually shows up there and um, 1115 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, and sees that stadium that he played so 1116 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 1: many games and last one for me and it's about 1117 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 1: this game tomorrow. There's seems to be you know, the 1118 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 1: Broncos really would love to have Javonte Williams be the 1119 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:13,080 Speaker 1: starting running back and not Melvin Gordon, although they Melvin 1120 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Gordon went out found out the grass was not greener. 1121 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 1: Now he's still there. You know, how's that going to 1122 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 1: work itself out? And it's precision, especially tomorrow in this 1123 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,520 Speaker 1: game against the Bills. Yeah, I would imagine that both 1124 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 1: Williams and Gordon will sit tomorrow. They did in the opener, 1125 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 1: and certainly Gordon will sit. He had a he had 1126 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 1: a foot contusion last week that um, you know, they 1127 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 1: Kepta Maudison practices. He got back to practicing this week, 1128 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 1: but um, I don't think he will play. And I 1129 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 1: think the same for Williams. He's gonna fall into that 1130 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 1: general starters that they're not going to play. Um, And 1131 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 1: so you'll see kind of Mike Boone, who a veteran 1132 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,919 Speaker 1: who played a couple of years with the Vikings. He'll 1133 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 1: probably be the lead back for the Broncos tomorrow. But 1134 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 1: as far as that that that duo and how it 1135 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,920 Speaker 1: will shake out, Melvin Gordon himself said the other day 1136 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 1: that that he believes the step is going to make 1137 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 1: Javontay Williams, the second year player out of North Carolina, 1138 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,120 Speaker 1: that they'll make him the starter. But I think it's 1139 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 1: going to look very similar to what it did in 1140 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. When you know Gordon and Williams ended 1141 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 1: up with the exact same carry total two hundred and 1142 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 1: three attempts at piece on the ground. You're going to 1143 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 1: see something resembling that. I think that's always just been 1144 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 1: the way Nathaniel Hackett has done it at his stops 1145 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 1: as an offensive play caller, offensive coordinator. You know, a 1146 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 1: pretty even split of his top two running backs, and 1147 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 1: really that's the way it should be given all that 1148 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,000 Speaker 1: Gordon has been able to do in his two years. Yes, 1149 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 1: he's dealt with some fumble issues, but this is a 1150 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 1: guy that has scored twenty total touchdowns over the past 1151 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 1: two seasons, just knows how to get it done when 1152 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 1: they get close to the goal line. He's going to 1153 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 1: be a big part of what they do, even if 1154 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 1: Javontay Williams kind of has that designation as the starter. 1155 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,960 Speaker 1: Nick appreciate the time. Thanks for lending us some insight 1156 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 1: on what we can expect from the Broncos. Tomorrow. Appreciate it. 1157 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,400 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, have a great day, guys. Right. That's 1158 01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:01,440 Speaker 1: Broncos reporter for the Athletic Nick Cosmider on what the 1159 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 1: Broncos will be doing against the Bills tomorrow, which basically 1160 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 1: means essentially no starters playing for them. As Steve said, 1161 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of a flip of what we saw last week. 1162 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Last week we saw the Bills second teamers working against 1163 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 1: the Colts starters. This week it will be the opposite 1164 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:24,120 Speaker 1: Bills starters for a period of time against Bronchos backups. 1165 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 1: I mean neither Melvin Gordon nor You got Mike Boone 1166 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 1: starting at running back probably for the Broncos tomorrow, and 1167 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:37,880 Speaker 1: put your Quan Hardy'll get some Steve scot Yeah, there's yeah, 1168 01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna be You're gonna need a program tomorrow. You 1169 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,680 Speaker 1: will need a flip card tomorrow. Yes, no question. Let's 1170 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 1: get back though to the Friday fan mailbag, as we 1171 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 1: had some lingering questions there to address, and Frank was 1172 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 1: where we left off, and Frank asks, do you think 1173 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 1: that Ken Dorsey will use a variation of his college 1174 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 1: Day's offense? He did go thirty eight and two using it, 1175 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 1: and it had a lot of deep passing touchdowns. News flash. 1176 01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:11,840 Speaker 1: It also had a lot of future NFL players. It's 1177 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 1: it's pretty easy. I mean, look, I'm not taking anything 1178 01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: away from coach Dorsey. As a quarterback. He was smart 1179 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 1: enough to get it in the hands of his playmakers 1180 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:24,040 Speaker 1: and had to execute guy through twenty five touchdown passes 1181 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 1: in two thousand in a thirteen game season. He also 1182 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:34,560 Speaker 1: had on his offense Clinton Portis naj Davenport, DJ Williams, 1183 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:40,719 Speaker 1: Santana Moss, Reggie Wayne, and Jeremy Shockey and Andre Johnson. 1184 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 1: Wasn't kelln Winslow junior on that town not yet? Okay, Yeah, 1185 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 1: there were some guys on it. I'll say this though, 1186 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 1: and I've heard other coaches say this as well. When 1187 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 1: you get down to it and you're calling plays in 1188 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,559 Speaker 1: the NFL or any place else, and you're thinking down 1189 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,679 Speaker 1: a distance and you're thinking all that, you you don't 1190 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,800 Speaker 1: think play cole as an offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator. 1191 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 1: You think players. You don't think plays, You think players. 1192 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,280 Speaker 1: And that's what Ken Dorsey did so well at Miami University. 1193 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,559 Speaker 1: You get the ball of the guys who are difference makers. 1194 01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:14,880 Speaker 1: You get the ball of the guy who's got the 1195 01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,680 Speaker 1: matchup that you win, and that's what And in the 1196 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 1: offense in the NFL, certainly there's great players on both 1197 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,200 Speaker 1: sides no matter who you're playing that week. As an offense, 1198 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,719 Speaker 1: they got guys you want to make sure you're great guys, 1199 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,799 Speaker 1: get on their guys who are not their great guys 1200 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,800 Speaker 1: and attack those guys. That's what can That's the real 1201 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,960 Speaker 1: thought about it. So you don't think you think, Okay, 1202 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,559 Speaker 1: you got Steph Diggs. You think Gabe Day, You think 1203 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 1: Steph Diggs. First, Can I put Steph Diggs somewhere where 1204 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna win no matter what. Can we move him around? 1205 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,439 Speaker 1: Can we said? And then if their defense can adjust 1206 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 1: to that, who else is gonna win? Gabe is on now, 1207 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,920 Speaker 1: Gabe is on that guy. We can win that one, 1208 01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:53,920 Speaker 1: you know. But then if you get it out there 1209 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 1: and Steph is winning, you keep going to him. So 1210 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 1: that's you're right, That's exactly what Ken Dorsey did as 1211 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:03,760 Speaker 1: a college athlete. Throw it to that there. You know 1212 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt can't match up with that guy. Yeah, Andre Andre 1213 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 1: Andre stinking Johnson, So yeah, you're gonna win that. And 1214 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,360 Speaker 1: that's what that's I mean, you're gonna win matchups, and 1215 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 1: he had a ton of guys who could win matchups, 1216 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,639 Speaker 1: and and Ken Dorsey is a smart guy thirty eight 1217 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 1: and two are you kidding me? So there you go. 1218 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 1: It's one win away from two national titles. That's where 1219 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,040 Speaker 1: it is right there. So he's gonna he's gonna do 1220 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 1: that as And plus he's got a decade as an 1221 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,080 Speaker 1: NFL coach watching guys do it, and he's watched Josh 1222 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 1: go from you know, from a doubted guy to a 1223 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:50,320 Speaker 1: probable MVP contender. So if that's the case, you know, 1224 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,400 Speaker 1: you can bet that's what tink Ken Dorsey's thinking, and 1225 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 1: all that stuff goes into the stew He's thinking, player, 1226 01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,680 Speaker 1: I got this guy, and they got that guy. My 1227 01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,640 Speaker 1: guy wins the same of the Brian Dabele took a 1228 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,480 Speaker 1: very similar approach to game planning. He would start with matchups, 1229 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,640 Speaker 1: less so on passing concepts and scheme, more on the 1230 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:14,040 Speaker 1: matchups first, and then the play calls kind of generated 1231 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 1: from there. To answer your Kellen Winslow question, he was 1232 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 1: a freshman on the team in two thousand and one, 1233 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,760 Speaker 1: but he didn't really play much because Shocky was still there. 1234 01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:28,599 Speaker 1: Unbelievable some of that talent. And then Willis mcgahey, Frank 1235 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 1: or I mean, Mike. Even when you're sitting there, think, yeah, 1236 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 1: he's a good players all that, but you never know 1237 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,559 Speaker 1: how good they're gonna be till they you know, they 1238 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,960 Speaker 1: take the next step and they and they do well there. 1239 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 1: But there was a lot of pro football players playing 1240 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,799 Speaker 1: for the Miami Hurricanes. I gave you some of the guys, 1241 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, the skill position players, Flynton Portis NJ Davenport, 1242 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 1: Willis mcgaey, Frank Gore, Andre Johnson, Darryl Jones, Jeremy Shocky, 1243 01:11:55,520 --> 01:12:00,559 Speaker 1: Kellen Winslow Junior. Here's your offensive line, Bryant McKinney, Jerome 1244 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,599 Speaker 1: McDougall both played in the NFL. Then the defensive line, 1245 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 1: William Joseph NFL, Andrew Williams NFL, Matt Walters NFL, Vince Wilfork, 1246 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:17,599 Speaker 1: Jonathan Vilma, DJ Williams, Darryl mcclover, Philip Buchanan, Ed Reid, 1247 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,800 Speaker 1: Mike Rumfinantrelle Roll, Ed Reid. They got like two Hall 1248 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,360 Speaker 1: of Famers works Wilfork's gonna go in the Hall of 1249 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,680 Speaker 1: Fame and Ed Reid's already in Ed Reid was like 1250 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:32,680 Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer. Yeah that let me 1251 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,519 Speaker 1: just tell you something. You say what you want. Who 1252 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 1: was recruiting those guys and where are they working now? 1253 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 1: They're well, they're a lot older now. Yeah, you know, 1254 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:47,840 Speaker 1: it's a long time with twenty which Davis, Larry Coker guys. 1255 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 1: It's kind of a fun exercise to go back stacked. 1256 01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah that roster. And I'll say this too. I know 1257 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 1: this is how I feel, and I've seen a lot 1258 01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 1: of the guys and they feel the same way. Those 1259 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 1: all those guys that you just mentioned, they are sitting 1260 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:07,160 Speaker 1: there going they are just absolutely positively cheering for Ken 1261 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,800 Speaker 1: Dorsey right now. Oh yeah, let's go, man. You know 1262 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna come on, man, let's go. They want to 1263 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,800 Speaker 1: see him do well. They really want to see him 1264 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 1: do well. And it's kind of fun to think about. Yeah, 1265 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 1: it's I I'd love to just sit down and talk 1266 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,160 Speaker 1: to him about that. Forget about all this stuff with 1267 01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,599 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator here and bills and all that. We gotta 1268 01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,440 Speaker 1: get him in here one time and just talk Miami Hurricanes. Yeah, 1269 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,360 Speaker 1: because we hear it all the time. We hear it 1270 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 1: you and I bring it up to people all the 1271 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 1: time that are out and about because we interact with 1272 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 1: our guests off the air and stuff like that. And 1273 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,200 Speaker 1: he's telling about Ken and all the people get that guy. 1274 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,960 Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey is a legend in South Florida. He is 1275 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,200 Speaker 1: like big time. I was asking Duke Johnson about it 1276 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,360 Speaker 1: earlier this week. Duke Johnson was like seven years old 1277 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,360 Speaker 1: when Dorsey was doing what he is. And he played 1278 01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,160 Speaker 1: at Miami too. He's at Miami alum and he's like, 1279 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:05,200 Speaker 1: I don't remember the games, but Ken Dorsey's a legend. Yeah, 1280 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,519 Speaker 1: here's the problem. So we lost Brian day Ball to 1281 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,080 Speaker 1: the Giants. Thigures are gonna happen Ken Dorsey. We may 1282 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 1: lose him to the Miami hurt. You know what I mean. 1283 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,360 Speaker 1: He may go back and want to play. You want 1284 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,599 Speaker 1: to coach college, be a head guy in a college situation. 1285 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 1: They just hired a new coach. I'm not saying Miami 1286 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,760 Speaker 1: University any place. Yeah, you know what I mean, particularly 1287 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,759 Speaker 1: in the SEC where you know he might get lured 1288 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:33,360 Speaker 1: away by that right as a head guy for sure. Yeah, 1289 01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean you know coordinators in the NFL. Yeah, that's 1290 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,360 Speaker 1: really interesting because you know, if he hits a home run, 1291 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:48,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna be the hot guy on the list. Yeah, 1292 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,559 Speaker 1: oh man, that's hard to think about. I don't want 1293 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,400 Speaker 1: to think about that yet. We just went through that 1294 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 1: each of the last two years. We just went through that. 1295 01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,639 Speaker 1: I don't even to go through that again. Not yet. 1296 01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 1: We have to take a break when we come back. 1297 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 1: More of your questions from the obl Friday fan mail bag, 1298 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,639 Speaker 1: and if we have time, a little NFL true fall. 1299 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 1: Steve gotta pull those up when we return. Here on 1300 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,360 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. 1301 01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,000 Speaker 1: All right, back to the Friday fan mailbag, we go, 1302 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:41,519 Speaker 1: where Peter asks, does position flexibility give Ariza a leg up? 1303 01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,519 Speaker 1: No pun intended with a history of kicking and punting 1304 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,000 Speaker 1: in college? And why not have a running back due 1305 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,320 Speaker 1: holding in case of a bad snap? Wouldn't that put 1306 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,280 Speaker 1: the ball in the hands of a player better suited 1307 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 1: on a chance for a busted play? Well, I've kind 1308 01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,080 Speaker 1: of wondered about that here and there, I get it. 1309 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:05,639 Speaker 1: Here's the here's the thing. The running back situation player 1310 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 1: or whatever I mean. I did it. They were hesitant 1311 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,719 Speaker 1: to have me do it as a special teams player, 1312 01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:18,519 Speaker 1: because you know, my hands got broken, got broken ten times. Yeah, 1313 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 1: I mean all all my fingers on either hand got broken. 1314 01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,439 Speaker 1: So what happened? And I could still cover kicks with that. 1315 01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,160 Speaker 1: I got a bunch of football cards with me wearing 1316 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 1: a cast. Well, you can't hold with that. So all 1317 01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you're in the middle of the season. 1318 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:31,760 Speaker 1: You got a kicker who's on his hot streak, and 1319 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,120 Speaker 1: you change holders on him because the guy who usually 1320 01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 1: does it gets a busted finger. What happens if you 1321 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,719 Speaker 1: know the running back boom blows a knee, blows an ankle. 1322 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 1: But it's a volatile spot the holders, the punter is 1323 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,800 Speaker 1: not going to go out with a with an acl 1324 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,040 Speaker 1: The punter is not going to get a busted finger. 1325 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,439 Speaker 1: The punter is not going to get something that goes 1326 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,640 Speaker 1: out there. Right. That's the reason you don't give do 1327 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 1: it with a running back because he might have to 1328 01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,760 Speaker 1: change it three times. So you want somebody who's going 1329 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,960 Speaker 1: to do it and who has least operations of getting injured. 1330 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,160 Speaker 1: Even if he even if he snaps a hamstring, he 1331 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:12,760 Speaker 1: can hold during a game, right, even if you know 1332 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,400 Speaker 1: like an hour and a half, you know you set 1333 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,040 Speaker 1: the rosters an hour and a half. We've seen this 1334 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,120 Speaker 1: happen where the punt the kicker or somebody the somebody 1335 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 1: pulls a hamstring and warm ups. Well, even then, if 1336 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,920 Speaker 1: your punter blows up hamstring and warms up, he can 1337 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 1: still kneel down and hold. He can't do the busted play, 1338 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,760 Speaker 1: but at least he can hold. So all of that 1339 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,720 Speaker 1: goes into the mix. But it's a good question, and 1340 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,600 Speaker 1: you're right, there are great guys. You know, why not 1341 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 1: have Josh do it? You know, because if you if 1342 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 1: if worse comes to worse, he's got the ball in 1343 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,160 Speaker 1: his hands and you know he can throw it or 1344 01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:48,000 Speaker 1: run it. Well, the aunt kind of answer your own question. 1345 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,400 Speaker 1: It's like I don't want to, you know, right, So 1346 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 1: what about the position flexibility question? Knowing a rise it 1347 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:58,639 Speaker 1: punted end place, It's it's a it's a consideration. You're 1348 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,800 Speaker 1: really just looking for the best punter, You're just right, Yeah, 1349 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,680 Speaker 1: you're just looking for the best punter. You know, you 1350 01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,600 Speaker 1: already have a kicker plan. I understand. Okay, if you 1351 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,160 Speaker 1: go with the best guy at the spot, and then 1352 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:09,960 Speaker 1: whoever you have on the roster, and finally you go 1353 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,759 Speaker 1: what's your best plan being Okay, well you got Dawson 1354 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,719 Speaker 1: Knox can punt, Okay, do it. He's our backup punter. 1355 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,519 Speaker 1: That's what you're looking at. But it's a good question. Yeah, 1356 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 1: but the consideration is, and like I said, is what 1357 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:27,280 Speaker 1: if something happens? Yeah, best thing to keep the kicking 1358 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:31,160 Speaker 1: operation consistent with the people involved in it. Jack asked, 1359 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,519 Speaker 1: I'm curious on your opinion of the guys competing on 1360 01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,880 Speaker 1: the D line. Could they keep nine or ten and 1361 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,560 Speaker 1: could we see a surprise? Per reports last game? C J. 1362 01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 1: Brewer and Brandon Bryant both looked good, An Ku played 1363 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:48,719 Speaker 1: well last year, and Love always seemed to flash. Yeah, 1364 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,280 Speaker 1: it's it's a deep position. I mean, I don't think 1365 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,120 Speaker 1: there's any question about that, and there are going to 1366 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 1: be some difficult decisions here. I think some of the 1367 01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:02,080 Speaker 1: guys that Jack mentioned are destined for the practice squad 1368 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 1: because you got veteran free agent signees ahead of them 1369 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 1: on the depth chart right now, particularly on the defensive interior, 1370 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,320 Speaker 1: and you have high draft choice investments at defensive end. 1371 01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:15,760 Speaker 1: All right, here's what you got say. If you go 1372 01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:21,840 Speaker 1: eight deep, you got Rousseau, four Rousseau, Oliver Jones, D 1373 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,240 Speaker 1: Kwon Jones, Von Miller. Okay, then you got Boogie Basham, 1374 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:29,240 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, Tim settle A, Ja Panessa. Well, that leaves 1375 01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:37,360 Speaker 1: Brandon Bryant, Shack Lawson, Mike love Eli, elianku Oh on 1376 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 1: the outside looking end. And that's nothing about you know, 1377 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:44,400 Speaker 1: Daniel Joseph, C. J. Brewer, Prince Emilie and Kingsley Jonathan. 1378 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,280 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of guys, and I think 1379 01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,320 Speaker 1: the most I think nine is possible. Ten seems a 1380 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:55,080 Speaker 1: little fat. Ten might happen because then if you only 1381 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:59,519 Speaker 1: go five linebackers, that gives you seven that it gives 1382 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,840 Speaker 1: you that gives you eight dbs. That gets you to 1383 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,240 Speaker 1: twenty three on the defensive side of the ball. But 1384 01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,639 Speaker 1: if you go five linemen, they took six last year 1385 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,960 Speaker 1: because of special team, so that goes six. That's sixteen 1386 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,840 Speaker 1: on your front six and then you've got sixteen. You 1387 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,639 Speaker 1: can go all the way up to what twenty four 1388 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:23,679 Speaker 1: defensive players. That means that's eight dbs. That ain't enough 1389 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 1: to me. We got three. You got five on the 1390 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,920 Speaker 1: field all the time. I think you go ten defensive backs, 1391 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:38,040 Speaker 1: nine defensive lineman, and that gives you if you go six, 1392 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,360 Speaker 1: that gives you twenty five defensive players. That's pushing as 1393 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:42,760 Speaker 1: far as you can go. That's as far as you 1394 01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,880 Speaker 1: can go. Yeah, I think nine is the limit because 1395 01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,400 Speaker 1: you got fifty guys. You got the kicker, the punter, 1396 01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,519 Speaker 1: the long snapper. That so it takes your fifty three 1397 01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,600 Speaker 1: man down to fifties. You got fifty guys. If you 1398 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,280 Speaker 1: go twenty five and twenty five, there's your number. But 1399 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,439 Speaker 1: usually you go twenty six, sometimes even twenty seven on 1400 01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,680 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball with your offensive you know, 1401 01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,519 Speaker 1: people the Bills, I think could go less than that 1402 01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:09,080 Speaker 1: because they have the same eleven guys on the field 1403 01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:15,120 Speaker 1: of the snaps. They're in their nickel defense. Yeah, but 1404 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:21,000 Speaker 1: they rotate the front four so yeah, well there you go. 1405 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:25,719 Speaker 1: Now you got eight guys up front. So it's hard. 1406 01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,520 Speaker 1: It's not going to be easy. I think the linebackers 1407 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,160 Speaker 1: where they go light, if they're gonna go light. Yeah, 1408 01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,639 Speaker 1: but special teams is important. And if that look at 1409 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:38,839 Speaker 1: these if you look at these defensive linemen, there aren't 1410 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,519 Speaker 1: many that have a role on special teams. No, I mean, 1411 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:48,360 Speaker 1: I mean, like, yeah, exactly. I think AJ is on 1412 01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:52,760 Speaker 1: one of the units. Um I don't have my notes 1413 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,320 Speaker 1: in front of me, but I remember seeing Aja out 1414 01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,840 Speaker 1: there on one of these. It's a problem. It's because 1415 01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:59,680 Speaker 1: it's a good problem, but it's a problem. But the 1416 01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:05,400 Speaker 1: problem him is this. The linebackers become Matt Milano, Tremaine Edmonds, 1417 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,639 Speaker 1: then you got Terrell Bernard probably he's in, and then 1418 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 1: maybe what Meta Kevitch, there's Specter is five. That leaves Dodson, 1419 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,920 Speaker 1: Smith's six. No, Dodson is six. Dodson's making the roster, 1420 01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:27,320 Speaker 1: don't you think? Okays, Milano, Edmonds, Bernard Meta Kevitch, that's 1421 01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:33,160 Speaker 1: four Specter and Dodson. That leaves Giles, Harris and Andre 1422 01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,160 Speaker 1: Smith out. Well. Andre Smith is going to be on 1423 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,880 Speaker 1: the suspended list anyway, so he's suspended for the first 1424 01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,559 Speaker 1: six games. So I don't know what. I don't know 1425 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:46,559 Speaker 1: what the thought process is there. But if you're gonna 1426 01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,120 Speaker 1: go light to me, that's the spot you go light 1427 01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:55,680 Speaker 1: at because you only play two of them. Yeah, you 1428 01:22:55,720 --> 01:23:00,280 Speaker 1: only play two of them. I know you got a 1429 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,120 Speaker 1: special team, a guy that's here primarily for special teams exploits, 1430 01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:08,799 Speaker 1: much like Seran Neil and Madakavitch, right, Bernard and Dotson 1431 01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,439 Speaker 1: are not getting on the field unless Edmonds or Milano 1432 01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,160 Speaker 1: are injured. And then even if one of them gets injured, 1433 01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,280 Speaker 1: Bernard backs both those guys up to me. Well, Dotson 1434 01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,400 Speaker 1: ken too though, Right, Well, that's the thing you got. 1435 01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:22,800 Speaker 1: You got two guys that back up both guys, you 1436 01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,879 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if you got a clip somewhere, 1437 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,679 Speaker 1: you might be there. So you go five there, only 1438 01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:33,200 Speaker 1: play two. Specter on the practice squad, spector makes it. Well, 1439 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:39,080 Speaker 1: then you're back to six. Yeah, you're not clipping Madacave. Yeah, 1440 01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,120 Speaker 1: you're right. Yeah, it's hard. It's really hard. Specter gets 1441 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,719 Speaker 1: protected on the practice squad. Problem go around and around 1442 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,280 Speaker 1: on that. But that's that's what you're looking at. Then 1443 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,280 Speaker 1: you go down to the and it's all about dbs 1444 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,479 Speaker 1: and safeties. How many guys you get because they play 1445 01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:56,639 Speaker 1: five at a time. They play five dbs every snap. 1446 01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:01,160 Speaker 1: Usually it's the same five. Yeah, but if it's not. 1447 01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:06,080 Speaker 1: You know, we've talked about I mean that this club 1448 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:10,240 Speaker 1: has bent over backwards to make sure Jaquan Johnson and 1449 01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:14,439 Speaker 1: DeMar Hamlin don't go anywhere, and cam Lewis too. They've 1450 01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,559 Speaker 1: jumped through hoops to keep make sure those guys know 1451 01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,840 Speaker 1: how much they like him. Yeah, even though they can't 1452 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,960 Speaker 1: get on the field right and the moment Jaquan Johnson 1453 01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,280 Speaker 1: and Damar Hamlin or cam Lewis is a free agent, 1454 01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 1: they're a New York Giant the next minute or somebody else. 1455 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,280 Speaker 1: But I know they'd be a Giant if they wanted to, right. 1456 01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,519 Speaker 1: Steve asked, do you expect the Bills to trade any 1457 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,120 Speaker 1: players to obtain draft capital next week prior to the 1458 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,439 Speaker 1: final fifty three cutdown? If so, will there be any 1459 01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,960 Speaker 1: players they may showcase in tomorrow's game like they did 1460 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,600 Speaker 1: Watkins a few years ago. We think we thought about it. 1461 01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,679 Speaker 1: I think it's possible. I don't want to name names, 1462 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,920 Speaker 1: but you gotta believe that Brandon Bean, if he feels 1463 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,400 Speaker 1: he has a surplus at a position and has some 1464 01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:59,280 Speaker 1: players of value that will be in demand by multiple teams, 1465 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,280 Speaker 1: that that's when you can try to broker a deal 1466 01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 1: and try to get some late round draft compensation in return. 1467 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:08,720 Speaker 1: If you can convince a team, hey, you want to 1468 01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,120 Speaker 1: compete with thirty one other teams for this guy, all right? Well, 1469 01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,840 Speaker 1: or maybe flip them. You can have him now and 1470 01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,080 Speaker 1: I'll trade him to you. Or it may Yes, otherwise 1471 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,960 Speaker 1: like maybe like this, Hey, listen, if we don't trade him, 1472 01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,200 Speaker 1: we're keeping him. You're not going to get a shot 1473 01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,240 Speaker 1: at him. We'll trade him if we get a five 1474 01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,280 Speaker 1: for this. Anybody's buying that. But but we're gonna keep 1475 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,479 Speaker 1: him if you don't, and we're gonna guy. I think 1476 01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:32,559 Speaker 1: you have a better chance of convincing somebody if they 1477 01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,559 Speaker 1: believe that player is going to be in demand by 1478 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,320 Speaker 1: more than one team. And now the power is out 1479 01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,800 Speaker 1: of your hands. Now the player is choosing where you go, 1480 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,920 Speaker 1: and you may see it. Maybe you choosing to acquire 1481 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:43,720 Speaker 1: him for an asset, or maybe it's like this. You 1482 01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,080 Speaker 1: can trade, will trade Jikwon Johnson or Damar Hamlin or 1483 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,040 Speaker 1: Cam Lewis to you because they'll start for you. Or 1484 01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,479 Speaker 1: you can wait and we're gonna cut a guy like 1485 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,960 Speaker 1: Josh Thomas or Nick McLeod. Yeah, you know you if 1486 01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,599 Speaker 1: you think Josh Thomas or Nick McLoud can start for you, okay, 1487 01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:00,240 Speaker 1: you can wait for us to release them. But we're 1488 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,040 Speaker 1: not releasing Jikwan Johnson, DeMar Hamlin or Camp into that 1489 01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,320 Speaker 1: kind of thing. They'll hierarchy it. We may release that guy, 1490 01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,120 Speaker 1: but we're gonna keep that guy. You can trade for 1491 01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,240 Speaker 1: that guy, but we don't. We're not going to take 1492 01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,479 Speaker 1: anything less than a fifth for those guys. Or you 1493 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,240 Speaker 1: can take this other guy for free. If when we 1494 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,000 Speaker 1: and you can be in a bidding war with thirty 1495 01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,160 Speaker 1: one other teams. That kind of stuff's got to happen. Yeah, 1496 01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,280 Speaker 1: those conversations take place, no question. We have to take 1497 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,680 Speaker 1: a break here. Got one more question on the tweetcheet. 1498 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:30,720 Speaker 1: We'll get to concerning the joint scrimmages in advance of 1499 01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,559 Speaker 1: a preseason game between the same two teams. Why do 1500 01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:37,120 Speaker 1: they do that? And how's my dog doing? Who's missing 1501 01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,240 Speaker 1: my son? Who's away at college. We'll have an updates 1502 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,679 Speaker 1: on both. We have updates on both because Susie wants 1503 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,479 Speaker 1: to know. We'll get to that in a second here 1504 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:59,519 Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned, all right, Steve Susie 1505 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,240 Speaker 1: in the mail says, scrimmages between teams like the Pats 1506 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,200 Speaker 1: and Panthers, if they're playing against each other in the 1507 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,840 Speaker 1: preseason anyway, why do they have them? Also? How is 1508 01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:11,000 Speaker 1: the dog? So the Bills did this in twenty nineteen, 1509 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:12,920 Speaker 1: they went down and did two pract two days of 1510 01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,760 Speaker 1: joint practices with the Panthers and then played against them 1511 01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,080 Speaker 1: in the scrimmage or played against them in the preseason. 1512 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,479 Speaker 1: Down there, it's just an extra two days of quality 1513 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,439 Speaker 1: work against a real opponent where you're not looking at 1514 01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,280 Speaker 1: the same looks from your defense in practice a training 1515 01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,120 Speaker 1: camp every day. There is a risk that you know, 1516 01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:35,400 Speaker 1: tempers boil over and you know somebody. There's always an 1517 01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:38,639 Speaker 1: injury risk too, because the sessions are a little more intense. 1518 01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,040 Speaker 1: But coaches feel like there are benefits to it that 1519 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,120 Speaker 1: make it worthwhile. Yet you get used to playing the 1520 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,519 Speaker 1: same guy over and over. You need some somebody else 1521 01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:48,840 Speaker 1: to do it so they can see. Plus it's a 1522 01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:52,240 Speaker 1: little more pressures. You don't have to be nice to 1523 01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,920 Speaker 1: these guys or whatever. Plus the coaches coaching staffs can 1524 01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,679 Speaker 1: control the violence to a greater degree. They can protect 1525 01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,479 Speaker 1: their star players. Play ends when the whistle blows, and 1526 01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,800 Speaker 1: the whistle can blow halfway through the play. They can 1527 01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,000 Speaker 1: blow the whistle whenever they want and stop the play 1528 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,840 Speaker 1: and save guys from doing it. It's a much more controlled, 1529 01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:14,639 Speaker 1: if intense atmosphere, so they feel it safer for their 1530 01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,720 Speaker 1: players while they still get the benefits of playing in 1531 01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,200 Speaker 1: a real game, and they feel it's a better evaluation 1532 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:22,439 Speaker 1: in the practice setting too, because the intensity is up. 1533 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:28,360 Speaker 1: As for my dog, Coda, we leave the door open 1534 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,360 Speaker 1: to her crate at night because she's usually good. Once 1535 01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,800 Speaker 1: she's out, she's out. She sleeps like a rock. Second 1536 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,639 Speaker 1: night in a row, she's up in my son's bed 1537 01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:39,800 Speaker 1: under the covers, missing him, missing him. So we took 1538 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,679 Speaker 1: the advice of a couple of our tweeters, so thanks 1539 01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,840 Speaker 1: for the suggestions. We took this pillow that he would 1540 01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,760 Speaker 1: use as a knee pillow at night, put it in 1541 01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:52,040 Speaker 1: her crate, and she slept like a baby. Last night 1542 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,280 Speaker 1: she used it as a pillow for her head. So 1543 01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:58,479 Speaker 1: it's working so far. We'll keep you updated, But so far, 1544 01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:02,040 Speaker 1: so good. I'm sure if there's some crazy hijinks going on, 1545 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:06,120 Speaker 1: we'll let you know. Full coverage of tomorrow's preseason game 1546 01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 1: will happen on the radio side on WGR and the 1547 01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:11,640 Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network. Steve will have the call of the 1548 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:15,080 Speaker 1: game with Andrew Catalan on w IVB TV here locally 1549 01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:21,240 Speaker 1: and on NFL Network. We'll see him Monday at one