1 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Jason timp Podcast. Thank you guys so 2 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: much for taking time out of your evening to come 3 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: hang out and talk some basketball with us. I'm super 4 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: excited tonight we have Rods as you guys know him 5 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: as at Unwritten Rules on Twitter. He is one of 6 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: my favorite guys to bring on to talk Lakers because 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: he has a lot more time than I to do, 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: or at least he's willing to devote a lot more 9 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: time to watch a lot of the in depth film 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: and you can bring a lot of perspective that most 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: of us don't, you know, have the time to really 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: build and uh so I'm really excited to have him 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: on to bring his expertise. We're just going to dive 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: into all things about the Laker off season today and 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: uh you're gonna hear a lot of optimism from Raj 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: and I I would imagine, because I think we're naturally 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: optimistic people, but also there's a lot to be optimistic 18 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: about with this Laker team. And I think before we 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: get started, I want to talk real quick about why 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: I think we should be so optimistic, and it starts 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: with what happened with the Laker team last year because 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: As I've said several times on Twitter over the last 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, Lakers were one of the most dominant 24 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: basketball teams of this century. They started the season twenty 25 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: four and three. Think about how crazy that is to 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 1: start the season twenty four and three. At one point, 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: they finished the season at a sixty four win pace. 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: They were the fourth best offense in the league and 29 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: the third best defense in the league going into the bubble. 30 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: They finished the season with the best record among all 31 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: NBA teams against winning teams against teams at five or better. 32 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: And then they got into the into the playoffs and 33 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: they only lost five games. They were never truly threatened. 34 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: Even in the series where they got pushed to six, 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: they just absolutely obliterated the Miami Heat. They were one 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: of the most dominant teams not only in the history 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: of the league, but in in this modern era with 38 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: with as much depth of talent as there is from 39 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: top to bottom. And I think one of the main 40 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: reasons why there was so much pessimism surrounding the team 41 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: basically stemmed from two things. They dropped an early game 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: against the Clippers where they posted up a d every time, 43 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: and then they dropped an early game or Christmas Day 44 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: game against the Clippers where they had a pretty big 45 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: fourth quarter lead that they blew at the end with 46 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: some foul calls that went one way and and just 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: missing a couple of shots. And then they lost that 48 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: game at the end of the road trip against the Bucks. 49 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: And then there was the seeding games, which were weird. 50 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: They there were no fans, so there was no adrenaline 51 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: for the players to feed off of. They had absolutely 52 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: nothing to play for. They had locked down. Anything that 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: they needed was seating. There was no legitimate reason for 54 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: them to be the best version of themselves. And they 55 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: went three and five, and most importantly, they couldn't score, 56 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: which completely changed the whole, you know, perception of that 57 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: team because it made everybody think they were a bad 58 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: offensive team, even though they were the fourth best offense 59 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: all season long and and and during that seating game 60 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: they were the seating stretch. They were still defending. So 61 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: I say all that to say this, the reason why 62 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: we're going to be so excited in this podcast for 63 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: how good this Laker team can be is because they 64 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: already were one of the most dominant teams that we've 65 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: seen in this modern era and they legitimately got better 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: in my opinion, on both ends of the floor. And 67 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: so I think that I think that that's the important thing, 68 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: is to kind of confront some of that weird, illogical 69 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: pessimism that surrounded last year's Laker team that was never 70 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: really based in reality, because they were good from start 71 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: to finish. I was tweeting pretty recklessly about them back 72 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: in October, and I know you've felt the same way 73 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: of out. But yeah, I mean, do do you agree 74 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: with me? Do you think that do you think I'm 75 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: overreacting a little bit? No, I think you're right. I 76 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: think like there are times last year where you kind 77 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: of had to convince me because there were times where 78 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: like they would lose a game and would be like, 79 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, what's happening? And then you would go 80 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: on like a rant like dude, they're okay, They're just 81 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: one like ten in a row, Like it's okay to 82 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: lose one game. So I think you're right, um, And 83 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: the dominance level, I forget, like because you remember the 84 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: losses way more than the wins in a weird way, 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: Like I remember exactly losing that home game to Dallas 86 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: that they lost. Luca went off at home. But then 87 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: you forget like they won like fourteen in a row 88 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: or some crazy amount and you have sixteen and five 89 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Is nothing to joke about. And they're 90 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: like the first team to win without any home court 91 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: right they want to. They won the championship with zero 92 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: home court advantage. Now they didn't have to go on 93 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: the road at all either, but that's a pretty big deal. 94 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: So this year they get home court. UM. I think 95 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: they've got a much better roster, more balanced roster around 96 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: this team. Now, obviously chemistry was a big deal from 97 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: last year. We'll see how that um kind of correlates 98 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: to this year. But yeah, I think you're right. I 99 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: think they were dominating last year and they've improved. I mean, 100 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: you can't deny that they hadn't improved this team, So yeah, 101 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: I'll see. I mean, obviously, when you win the championship, 102 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: you have the right to be positively and you obviously 103 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: going to next season with a lot of positive feelings 104 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: on it. It's hard to do and I think I 105 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: think one of the things that I always tell people 106 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: when they're dealing when they're trying to cope with regular 107 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: season losses, because especially I remember when I was younger, 108 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: when I was in my teens, and I was watching 109 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: a game where I had a rooting interest, whether it 110 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: was the Arizona Wildcats or whether I was watching you know, 111 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: Lebron when he's playing with the Cavs. They lose a 112 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: game and I had to keep I would constantly just 113 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: kind of just be devastated by it, even in like March, 114 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: which never made any sense. And it's funny because you 115 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: think about, like, if I told you that an NBA 116 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: team was gonna win sixty games, you would think, oh, 117 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: that's a dominant basketball team. That's a bona fide championship contender, 118 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: you know, But if they like, just by a simple 119 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: matter of math, if a basketball team loses or win 120 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: sixty games in a regular season, that means they have 121 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: to lose twenty two times. So I think about it like, 122 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 1: that's crazy. You're losing at that rate. You're basically losing 123 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: once a week like that, that's it. That's insane. So 124 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: I think it's important to always kind of keep that 125 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: perspective and understand that even the warts that popped up 126 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: for the Lakers, the warts like dropping those couple games 127 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: to the Clippers, dropping that game to the Bucks having 128 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: some you know that. I think they lost four games 129 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: in a row at one point where things got a 130 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: little rough there. But you have to remind yourself and go, like, 131 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: it's not like there's a team out there that's perfect. 132 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: You know, there's into two thousands, seventeen Warriors, your outlier contender. 133 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: That's so different from any traditional season. All these teams 134 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: are struggling. And that was what so weird about it 135 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: is the Lakers would have this pessimism surrounding them, and 136 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: it's like have you watched the Clippers. They're getting their 137 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: butts kicked by bad teams, and they don't like each other, 138 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: and there's all this bad body language and all their 139 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: guys are in and out of the lineup, and it's like, 140 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: how is that getting you know, glossed over for their 141 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: sake but being completely you know, like having this big 142 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: flashlight shined on it for the sake of the Lakers. 143 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: And I never really understood understood the watch behind that. 144 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: Uh but yeah, so let's let's get started with what 145 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: I think is the first really interesting you know that 146 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: like structural things surrounding the Lakers, and it stems from 147 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: that interview that we had with Dannis Shrewder and his 148 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: inaugural press conference with the Lakers, where he basically kind 149 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: of came out and publicly said, I plan on being 150 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: the starter, okay, like and it wasn't like necessarily super 151 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: uh kind of like, it wasn't very you know, uh, modest, 152 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: it was very like intentional. It seemed wasn't low key 153 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: at all, right exactly, And so so let's assume that 154 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: that's that whole dynamic to me makes the starting lineup 155 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: dynamic interesting for the Lakers because for starters, you can 156 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: throw Alex Cruso out the window as a starter, which 157 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: is crazy because arguably their most dominant performance last year 158 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: was with Alex Caruso on the starting line up, so 159 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: we set him aside. So there are seven names, in 160 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: my opinion, that can be considered for a starting shot 161 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: starting spot. There's Lebron and Anthony Davis. There's k C. 162 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: P There's Wesley Matthews. There's Dennis Shrewder, who threw his 163 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: name in the hat and I probably wouldn't have put 164 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: it there before he said that. Uh, Marcusol and Montrese Harroll. 165 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: So Lebron and A Dye have to write, you're thinking 166 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: contagious call. Well, Pope probably has to why because he 167 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: started a lot of last season and you just paid 168 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: him a lot of money, you know. So the reality 169 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: is is, like, it doesn't make necessary, It doesn't necessarily 170 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: make a ton of sense to have him coming off 171 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: the edge. So that leaves West, Dennis Mark, and Shreds 172 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: fighting for those last two spots. So my first question 173 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: for you is what do you think the Laker starting 174 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: lineup will look like? And then follow that up with 175 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: whether or not you agree with that concept or if 176 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have if you would change anything about it. 177 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I just to speak on the like shrewder thing, Like, 178 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: I think it's great that he wants to be a starter. Um, 179 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: we obviously aren't in the room with his agent, with Polinka, 180 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: with you know, Lebron and a d or whoever got 181 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: to talk to him and promised the starting start, didn't. 182 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: I just think it's I don't think it's like normal 183 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: for a guard who's coming from another team to come 184 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: to a championship team and demanded to be a starter. 185 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: I think that's a little strange. I still would be 186 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: surprised if he's starting on opening night. UM, Like, I 187 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: think you can go as treads like do you want 188 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: to be a starter? He's can be like, hell yeah, 189 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: I want to be a starter? Like this, what kind 190 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: of question is that? Like? So, I mean, I'm not 191 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: sure if he was asked directly, but I mean I'm 192 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: sure he doesn't want to come off the bench anymore. 193 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: And that's understandable. The dude's a competitor, right. He averaged 194 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: eighteen points a game on a fifth seed last year. 195 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure he believes he can start. But I still 196 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: think UM that starting lineup is going to go with 197 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: a k C. P. I think he's earned it his 198 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: playoffs performances, UM has gotten him in that lineup, and 199 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: I just think you want to keep as much like 200 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: chemistry as well as last year. UM, just to keep it, 201 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: keep the continuity, right, Like I think Wes Matthews feels 202 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: perfectly for Danny Green. They are very similar players. Um. 203 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: I think West is a little bit of a defender 204 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: on the ball, but anyways, they're they're both kind of 205 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: three and D players. And then Mark saw if it's 206 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: perfectly with Jabal and then you can keep that playoff 207 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: bubble team together with k C. P Lebron and a 208 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: D and then that bench unit can build their own continuity, right, 209 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: because last year it was kind of aretic. You had 210 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: a regular season Rondo trying to play with Kuzma who 211 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: was doing his thing, and then you had Caruso coming 212 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: in trying to get minutes. It was a little bit 213 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: erratic and anyway through the season. So I think you're 214 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: right thing, those are the spots. Obviously Lebron and a 215 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: D are locked in. I would think trez is gonna 216 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: come off the bench. Um, I think Shorter is going 217 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: to eventually come off the bench to start. He's still 218 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: gonna get his starter in minutes though, and his his 219 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: minutes next to Lebron and a D. But that's kind 220 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: of how I see it going, how about you. That's 221 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: the that's the important detail. And so for the record, 222 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: like I had, I've I know what this experience is like. 223 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: When I was playing at Arizona Christian University, I started 224 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: this season as a starter, so a totally different vibe 225 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: than my junior college years. Like in junior college, I 226 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: was an all conference player. I was had all these 227 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: big scoring numbers. They were lying heavily on me to 228 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: be an offensive creator. And then I was playing with 229 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: two All American guards, you know, and the n A 230 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: I A is all weird, like they have weird age rules. 231 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: So our guards were twenty nine and thirty one years 232 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: old playing college basketball, you know, and I was twenty 233 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: two and you know, trying to fit in with these 234 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: two like big alpha personalities that have been around the 235 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: game forever. And I was like a Trevor Reasa type 236 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: role on that team. All I did was guard the 237 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: other team's best player and spot up in the in 238 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: the corner and shoot threes while these guards took all 239 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: these dribbles. And while it's one thing to buy into 240 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: that role from the standpoint of, you know, being unselfish, 241 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: it's another thing with the way that it can affect 242 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: your rhythm. And I genuinely remember like that process. I 243 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: was a starter my entire college career. I started every 244 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: game in junior college. I started like the first twenty 245 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: games of the season when I was at Arizona Christian University, 246 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, they were like, we 247 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: had a backup three. He was all he was an 248 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: All conference player this season before, and he was older. 249 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: He was I think he's like twenty eight years old, 250 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: and the coach basically just came to me and he says, hey, 251 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna start with Jordan's and we're gonna have you 252 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: come in off the bench. That way you can be 253 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: a bit more as bull of all all this stuff. 254 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: But the reality is is like coming off the bench 255 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: is hard. You go through this intense warm up before 256 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: the game, you're going through layup lines, You're all jazzed up, 257 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: there's a crowd, you're you know, jumping out of your 258 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: out of the gym, and then all of a sudden, 259 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: it's like I'm sitting and not only that, but it's 260 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: like eating at you because you're just watching other guys 261 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: play when you feel like you should be out there. 262 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: And so I I sympathize with the with with the 263 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: plight of what Dennis is talking about. The flip side 264 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: of it is, though, is his role is different. His 265 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: role on this team is to be aggressive with the basketball. 266 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: So in the starting lineup, it's foolish to have Dennis 267 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: be super aggressive with the basketball. It doesn't actually make 268 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: a lot of sense from a basketball a Q standpoint 269 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: for what they're trying to do in those minutes because 270 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: in those minutes when Lebron and a D are on 271 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: the floor, everything needs to be flowing through that as 272 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: much as you can, because there are two of the 273 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: top three or four players in the entire world. So 274 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: that's just a smarter that's just a smarter basketball like 275 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: you approach to the game. It's not we're not benching 276 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: Dennis for the sake of of of trying to you know, uh, 277 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: like Paris out who's the best player on the team. 278 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: It's just actually, if we have you check in with 279 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: five minutes to go in the first quarter, we can 280 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: have you come in and be super aggressive and not 281 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: have to worry about deferring to Lebron and Anthony Davis. 282 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: So that that's the reasoning why I didn't like that 283 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: sort of approach. It shows me that Dennis is kind 284 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: of worried about the wrong things. That's said, even if 285 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: they do start Dennis, they can work it out just 286 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: by quickly benching either Lebron or a D. And I 287 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: think you'll see that a lot, especially as you're dealing 288 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: with Lebron trying to load manage, because I think the 289 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: clear obvious answer for the starting lineup is to go 290 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: KCP and West because West is a perfect starter because 291 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't need touches, he locks up, he's a ball 292 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: pressure guy. He can set the tone defensively. And then 293 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: the same thing with Marcusol. Marcusol because he's just going 294 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: to be a high you player who's not who's not 295 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: overly aggressive. He's perfect in the starting lineup. And then 296 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: you bring in Tres and Dennis and you say it's 297 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: your time, just go get him. But if if they 298 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: insist on starting Dennis, which I believe they will, which 299 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: will lead to Dennis k CP, Lebron a d Marcusol, 300 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to do some quirky stuff with 301 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: your rotations to quickly get either Lebron and a d 302 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: out or a d out to get UH to get 303 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: Dennis the ball more because he's going to basically be 304 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: spotting up in some of those minutes. That would be 305 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: my one concern. Yeah, and the thing also, I think 306 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: there's enough playmaking between Marcusol and Lebron in that starting 307 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: lineup to where I don't think you need an extra 308 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: pastor there. Um. I think Dennis is the best, as 309 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: you said, on the ball, attacking off ball screens, um, 310 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: getting downhill and that's a little more tougher when he's 311 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: like standing on a week side corner waiting for you know, 312 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: the help to come down from a Lebron drive or 313 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, a d um flashing to the room, things 314 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: like that. So obviously they can work well together. I 315 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: just think his skill set kind of matches more of 316 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: that second unit. And it's still kind of strange to 317 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: me like that that he would just come in and 318 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: demand to be a starter and they would just like, 319 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, give him that. Like, I just think that's earned. 320 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: That's earned on the court, right if he's averaging like 321 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: twenty points a game and six assists up in his minutes, 322 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: and yeah, it started. Like if he's demanding to start, 323 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: then he started the basketball show. If he needs to 324 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: start or not, he he doesn't need to demand it, 325 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, day one of training camp. I think it's 326 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: kind of strange for a team that that just dominated 327 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: their way, Like you said, an intro to a championship. Um, 328 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: this guy coming off, you know, a five seat off 329 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: the bench is just weird, you know, just you're right, 330 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: it's about optics, like exactly, dude, Like I feel I'd 331 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: have so much more respect for you if you felt 332 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: that way, and you just kept it in the house. 333 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: But I mean, it's the thing, and this is what 334 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: is important that you're bringing to the table, Rodger, and 335 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: what drives me nuts about so many fans. It's like, 336 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: it's so you can be a Lakers optimist and be 337 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: honest about the things that you're seeing. And like, as 338 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: much as I love the Dennis acquisition, and we're gonna 339 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: talk more about what he does for the offense and 340 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: for the defense, but it's okay to acknowledge like that 341 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: wasn't I didn't love what he said in the press conference, 342 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: Like it wasn't ideal, you know, especially talking about a 343 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: team that had such great, such great chemistry. And we 344 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: just dealt with this with JaVale McGee, with all the 345 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: reports we had about how much he cared about starting, 346 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: and it's like and then now we're all of a 347 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: sudden throwing him into the fire in the Western Conference 348 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: finals to get absolutely cooked by you know. So I 349 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: think that I'd prefer to see the egos checked at 350 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: the door. But it's you can even if he is 351 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: privately insisted on it, you can still make it work. 352 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: And and maybe that's what it is is trying to 353 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: make him happy long terms so that he's you know, 354 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: more committed to the franchise. But it's all gonna work out. 355 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: So let's dig into some of the fun stuff that 356 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: I think you in particular, can be super helpful for 357 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: so UM. As I mentioned earlier in the show, the 358 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: Laker offense was one of the best offenses in the 359 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: league last year that got completely glossed over because of 360 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: the bubble games. And Zach Lobe presented some data and 361 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: he was including data from the bubble games for the record, 362 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: but he basically pointed out that most of the Laker 363 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: offensive success came in transition and that that they struggled 364 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: a little bit in the half court now. But like 365 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: I said, he was including games from the bubble So 366 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: it's difficult to manage that, uh, that kind of expectation 367 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: from what we saw and when they were more engaged. Um, 368 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: And the realities is scoring in transition is still offense. 369 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: It's not like like the Lakers scored a lot in 370 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: transition in the playoffs. Game six of the NBA Finals 371 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: was a track meet. They were strangling the heat and 372 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 1: then running out for layups and dunks on the other end. 373 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: So it's not like that's not real offense. That said, 374 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: I understand some of the concern there, and I think 375 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: a lot of it stemmed from spacing issues. And the 376 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: spacing issues stemmed from a lot of Rondo minutes and 377 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: a lot of JaVale McGee and a lot of Dwight Howard. 378 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: So what I want to start with is, let's talk 379 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: about specifically with the starting lineup to start how does 380 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: how does having Mark Garsol out there instead of a 381 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: JaVale McGee Dwight Howard completely change the way that the 382 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: Lakers play offense to start games. Yeah, it's everything, man, 383 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: because like you can see, when the Lakers started games, um, 384 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: it would be really clunky, clunky, even though they have 385 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: Lebron and a d um. You just have two bigs 386 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: in the paint right away, um starting your offense on 387 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: and you'll have Javal in the dunker spot usually and 388 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: teams just can just sit there and wait for Lebron 389 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: to drive, a d to drive and just dare the 390 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: shooters to kind of hit a little bit concessis shots. 391 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: But now Marcusol, he operates on the top of the key. Um, 392 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: he'll never hit them, He'll never miss a guy that's 393 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: going off a backcut. They'll never miss, like a good 394 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: back screen or he'll always hit you right in the 395 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: right in the place. And like he can really play 396 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: make um and help and even find Lebron on back cuts, 397 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: and it can it can allow Lebron and a D, 398 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: a D and Lebron to kind of work off each 399 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: other as well. Um they can screen for each other, 400 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: and uh, Marcosol can find him and just have another 401 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: playmaker out there so that you're not just running Lebron 402 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: is OS two or a D i OS or a 403 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: D post ups. You can Lebron. You can learn Lebron 404 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: Marcosol action. And they have to respect him out there. 405 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: I know his three point shooting kind of collapsed in 406 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: the bubble. I think it was like a thtent or 407 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: something like that. But I think he's still shot like 408 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: thirty as a whole before the bubble. Um. He's respected 409 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: out there. Even though he's a little bit slower foot. 410 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: He's not the same guy he was, but he's still 411 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: the amazing pastor. He still has the i q um 412 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: and he's it's going to open up everything. Having a 413 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: spacer along with a D out there. We saw it 414 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: with like Marky Morris. Right, when you have Markis Morris 415 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: and a D out there, how much space that just 416 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: gives a D to work down low. Now imagine like 417 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: that guy is now seven foot, that guy's now a 418 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: great passer, and you don't really lose much in terms 419 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: of room protection, and you could still go big and 420 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: keep that identity. I know you talked about that a 421 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: lot of the Lakers identity last year. You can still 422 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: kind of keep that big identity while also also opening 423 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: up the offensive floor. Yeah, so I agree, Like I think, 424 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: I think spacing as part of it, Like obviously having 425 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: a center who can shoot opens up a lot of things. 426 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: First of all, Anthony Davis spent half of the season 427 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: last year posting up with a big in the dunker spot, 428 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: which is just gremely difficult to do because when it 429 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: big is in the dunker spot, just natural shell spacing 430 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: allows the opponents at the opponents center to sit right 431 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: under the basket and to not get a defensive three 432 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: second calls. So it completely messes up your spacing at 433 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: four st. Anthony Davis to be hesitant and a lot 434 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: of those positions and take a whole lot of turnaround 435 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 1: jump shots and things that were a little bit more 436 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: finesse and less power, which, for the record, fine when 437 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: you're Anthony Davis because he's so good, but you can 438 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: see him potentially have a lot more success as a 439 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: to the basket post up score when you've got Marcosol 440 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: spacing from the three point line, specifically with his three 441 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: point shooting. I know that there's been a lot of 442 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: talk about his postseason performance, but I think it's important 443 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: to remember that, you know, he only played what he played. 444 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: The Raptors Celtics series went to Game seven A, but 445 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: they swept the first round, so he played the leven 446 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: playoff games, and and he was really good in a 447 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: larger sample size in the regular season. So theoretically and 448 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: with the Lakers, with the with the probability of him 449 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: making a deep playoff run, and honestly just because of 450 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: the Toronto never had the level of offensive creators to 451 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: generate the quality of looks that Marcosol is gonna get. 452 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: Playing alongside Lebron and Anthony Davis is going to be 453 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: a different level in that regard. So I think, like 454 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: just strictly from a spacing standpoint, it opens things up 455 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: from Lebron driving. It opens up things for Anthony Davis 456 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: as a post up threat, and most importantly, uh, just 457 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: quality of looks are gonna help Marcosol generating points for himself. 458 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: But then there's a second element to that, and it's 459 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: it's just the basketball, like Q is so much more 460 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: complicated than people realize. It's not just about like, uh, 461 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: it's not just about like learning how to channel your 462 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: aggression or being in the right spot at the right 463 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: time on the defense. Like a lot of spacing is 464 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: about like being in the right spot, like shifting your 465 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: body when you need to, kind of naturally by instinct 466 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: to help create openings. It's like kind of just on 467 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: a whim setting a screen at the right time. It's 468 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: cutting instinctually at the right time. Was something that Alex 469 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: Crusoe is so good at. Like Alex Cruso had so 470 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: many offensive limitations, but he was a high i Q 471 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: basketball player, which just makes it a lot easier in 472 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: the half court generate like these little tiny openings that 473 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: can help you over the course of the game, generate baskets. 474 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: And that's a huge part of the Marcosol experience. Dwight 475 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: Howard and JaVale McGee I I specifically with Dwight Howard. 476 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: I thought he was a big impact player for the 477 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: Lakers last year. I thought they should have found a 478 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: way to bring it back. And that's an entirely different 479 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: topic that we've all discussed. But Dwight Howard is not 480 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: a high i Q offensive basketball player. So he's a 481 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: high i Q defensive basketball player, but he's not a 482 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: high i Q offensive basketball player. He struggled a little 483 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: bit with what I'm talking about as it pertains to 484 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: Marcusol being in the right spot at the right time, 485 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: cutting at the right time, flaring at the right time, 486 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: finding that open spot on the perimeter where you think 487 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: Lebron will find you or where the opening will be. 488 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: All that stuff I think is important. And then you 489 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: talk about with his there's this whole other elements to 490 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: the offense that they can run um in the possessions 491 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: where Lebron and a d are either resting while on 492 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: the court or off the court, and that's just his 493 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: basketball que as a passer, getting them the ball high post, 494 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: getting the ball in a position where when you have 495 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: guys like Crusoe, Montrez Harrold on the floor, you can 496 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: get them cutting into into specific spots on the floor 497 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: where Marcusol can find them. I think he completely opens 498 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: things up on that end, right. And it's no accident 499 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: that Alex Caruso like is one of the best guys 500 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: to play next to Lebron James, right. It's because it 501 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: was really high i Q. And then you pair that 502 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: now with Marcusol, who's another just super high i Q guy. 503 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: Imagine those two guys now working together. I think that's 504 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: the best. I don't know you could. I mean, I 505 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: think it's debatable, but it's probably the best passing front 506 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: court in the league if you kind of put the 507 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: song in Lebron together. Just imagine those two finding each other, 508 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: finding Lebron going on it back. How many times with 509 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: Lebron cut and like no one would throw in the 510 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: law when he would like have the lab and you 511 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: know he would go back to the corner or something 512 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: like that with his hands back and try to catch 513 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: and isolate again. So Marcusol will never miss you on 514 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: those kind of cuts. Toronto kind of lived off that 515 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: Toronto wasn't as talented either, but they'll lift all those 516 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: cuts and those back back door screens. I think he's 517 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: gonna help Kuzma and Cruiso a lot on there. He's 518 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: a massive improvement to the collective basketball i Q of 519 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: the Lakers, right, And I don't think that can be overstated, 520 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: especially when, like I don't know how many times we 521 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: have to see an NBA history basketball i Q win 522 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: games at the highest levels of playoff basketball, whether it 523 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: was watching the Spurs for years or watching watching teams 524 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: that have famously been called old all year long suddenly 525 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: become the best teams when when the when the you know, 526 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: late round playoff series, uh, you know are being fought. 527 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: And I think that that I think that that sort 528 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: of thing is like again, you know, the Lakers, because 529 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: they had so much youth and athleticism with some of 530 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: the other moves that they made, Marcosol infusion is a 531 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: super good, a super you know, worthwhile risk in my opinion, 532 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: because you're not sacrificing your overall athleticism and age of 533 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: the team. You're bringing in a savvy, veteran player that 534 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: into a situation where his strengths can be emphasized instead 535 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: of his weaknesses. Right, So let's let's uh shift forward 536 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: in the game now to end of the first quarter, 537 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: early second quarter type of stretch where now you have 538 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: Mantrez and uh Dennis Shrowder on the floor. In this case, 539 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: you're looking at a line up where it's probably going 540 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: to be some combination of Montrese Harold, Anthony Davis, Um, 541 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: Dennis Shroder, Wes Matthews, maybe a Kyle Kuzma in there. 542 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: But that's gonna be the type of lineup that you're 543 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: working with offensively. How do you see that, uh, that 544 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: line up working to find baskets? Yeah, then it's exciting. 545 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: I mean after watching you know, regular season Rondo Um 546 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: trying to isolate or run ball screens that go nowhere 547 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: that create no advantage as you would say a lot Um. 548 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: Now you get Schroeder and Montrez Harrold with I'm assuming 549 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis will play in the second unit next to 550 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: Harold to kind of take take off his defensive deficiencies, 551 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: and you can have those two run screen and roll. 552 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: You can have a d and Um Shooder run pick 553 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: and roll and have like Kusma in the corner or 554 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: MARKI Morris and Caruso cutting. I think it's just gonna 555 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: be beautiful. Those two that you need to kind of 556 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: play their own basketball. I think it will be a 557 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: lot faster than the starting lineup. This all obviously isn't 558 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: gonna try to get out and run too much, so UM, 559 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: I expect that you need to just run up and down. 560 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: Shooter is one of the fastest cards in the league. 561 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: I think, UM, just having the basketball, I'm being able 562 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: to speed up and down. And Harold likes to run. 563 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: He has a huge motor UM, so he's gonna just 564 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: keep driving to the rim. And I think those two 565 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: are gonna score a lot. They those were two eighteen 566 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: points of game scores UM off the bench last year. 567 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: I think I think they can do the same thing 568 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: here um playing next to Lebron or a D depending 569 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: on how Vocal wants to play it. But I think 570 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna get a lot of baskets UM. And yet 571 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: you can see last year, like when the bench would 572 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: come in, we would kind of struggle, right those numbers. 573 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: People would attack a D a lot because they would 574 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: say the numbers when Lebron sits, UM, we're still a negative, right. 575 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: I think the Lakers were like negative point something with 576 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: Lebron off the bench last year. That kind of flipped 577 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: in the bubble. But I think this will help a lot. 578 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: Somehow Rob got the two six Man the Year candidates 579 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: to join this championship team, UM, filling both of the holes. 580 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: I thought backup point guard was like the number one 581 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: hole to fill. He filled that in before free agency 582 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: even began. So yeah, I think this bench is gonna 583 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: have a no, no trouble getting points of UM going forward. Yeah, 584 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: I agree. So I think I think the first thing 585 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: that's interesting from the standpoint of what Dennis Shrewder had 586 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: to deal with in Oklahoma City, he was spending a 587 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: lot of time with you know Darius Basically you're spending 588 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: a lot of time with you know, Steven Adams. He 589 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: was dealing with some spacing issues that he won't necessarily 590 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: have to deal with with the bench lineup of the Lakers. 591 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 1: So theoretically, let's pretend it's Dennis Shrewder, West Matthews, Kyle Kuzma, 592 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, and Montrese Harroll. First of all, you can 593 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: run pick and roll with Anthony Davis. Forget about Tres 594 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: for a second. You can literally run pick and roll 595 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: with Anthony, which is gonna generate more opening for him 596 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: than he's ever experienced in his career. As a as 597 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: a pick and roll ball handler. Then in the scenario 598 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: where you're running pick and roll with Montrese harroll, you've 599 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: got Anthony Davis, Kyle Kuzma, and West Matthews on the perimeters. 600 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: You can't help anywhere in that mix, and you're you're 601 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: just giving him a little bit more flexibility to uh 602 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: to turn what is one of the more gifted role 603 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: men in the NBA's just because you know, I think 604 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: he was. I can't remember who was. I was tweeting 605 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: out Montrese's measurables the other day. But one of the 606 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: big reasons at his height that he's so effective around 607 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: the basket is he has super super long arms, and 608 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: he's a super high standing reach. If I'm not mistaken, 609 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: his standing reach in his wingspan are both higher and 610 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: longer than Bamata bios if I remember correctly. So, Montrese 611 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: brings a lot of length around around the basket. Offensively, 612 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: big hands, he can catch everything. I had a Brett 613 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: Dawson was a friend of mine who who has been 614 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: covering the Oklahoma City Thunder for a long time. He 615 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: said that when he was watching Dennis play in Oklahoma City, 616 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: he was frequently frustrated with how with the stone hands 617 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: that the Biggs had there, and it made him it 618 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: made him less of a willing cats in the sense 619 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: that he just was a little bit hesitant to throw 620 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: the ball to guys who didn't know what to do 621 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: with it when they got it, or maybe they couldn't 622 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: catch it to begin with. That's the problem you're gonna 623 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: have with Anthony Davis and with Montrez Harrold. So I 624 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: think it definitely brings out, you know, what could be 625 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: the best out of Dennis shooter. And then the other 626 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: thing with him, you know, he's a more aggressive jump shooter, 627 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: which I think is important because the Rondo jump shooting 628 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: experience was such a roller coaster. There were days where 629 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: he was confident, he was firing away and it really 630 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: opened things up for their offense. But for every night 631 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: like that, there was a night where he was either 632 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: completely unwilling to take them or he was bizarrely super 633 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: aggressive and not making anything. And so it was it 634 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: was such a roller coaster in that regard the Shrewder. 635 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: You know, there's been some talk about how before last 636 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: season he wasn't a great jump shooter, and whether or 637 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: not last season was an outlier. But the reality the 638 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: situation is is even like the worst case scenario for 639 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: Shrewder as a jump shooter UH this season would be 640 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: better than what they were dealing with with Rondo. So 641 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: I think I think that I think the Dennis Shrewder 642 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: of jump shooting is not really concerned me. And most importantly, 643 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: his aggressiveness will open things up in that regard. And 644 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: the other thing with tread that I think is interesting 645 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: is it brings he brings an interesting wrinkle against switching defenses. 646 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people have talked to death 647 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: his ability to uh to victimize post Mitch mattch mismatches. 648 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: So you run some sort of screen and roll, you know, 649 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: Lebron's tired or Shrewder's tired. They've been aggressive in previous 650 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: possessions and they get the switch, but they don't really 651 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: have the legs to blow at the center. Well, you 652 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: can dump it down to Tres and he can get 653 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: you a basket against an undersized defender. That that's been 654 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: talked to death. But one of the big ones, in 655 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: my opinion, that hasn't been talked about enough is the 656 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,239 Speaker 1: pressure that Montrese can put on the basket. As an 657 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: offensive rebounder against switching defenses. So you have Dennis Shooter 658 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: come up the floor, montrese is being guarded by you 659 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: know Bach or some something like that, and gets the screen, 660 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: gets Dennis switched on to him, and Dennis is feeling feisteed, 661 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: just giving him all sorts of space, and he settles 662 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: for a jump shot and he and he misses it. Well. 663 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: In that scenario, you can pretty much count on Montrese 664 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: Harold like diving to the rim if he's got Lou 665 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 1: Williams on him in this case, or some Red Jaccon 666 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: or whoever the guard was that was guarding uh Shrewder 667 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: diving to the basket, pushing them underneath the rim, getting 668 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: an offensive rebound and putting it back up in That 669 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: was one of the things that I noticed the most 670 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: with Montrese Harold. That's kind of glost over last year 671 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: is that three points that's free points, because that's that 672 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: is in the scenario where Dennis Shooter or Lebron are 673 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: making those jump shots, you're getting made jump shots, and 674 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: then there's certain percentage of them that are not being 675 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: uh that the jumps are the jumpers are being missed. 676 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: Montrez is converting those into a certain amount of points 677 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: per possession as well. So I thought that those are 678 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: the things that make me the most excited about about 679 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: him in that regard. And we always look at it 680 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: like what could the free agent do for us? Right, 681 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: we look at who we had add like what can 682 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: Truoder do for us? Hair? Or do it for us? 683 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: But like Shooder last year, I was looking at the 684 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: numbers he played of his minutes, Nick to a traditional 685 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: five and Steven Adams or new Lands nowell miss that 686 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: means like he had no space at the rent. Right, 687 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: those guys are just lob lob dunk guys. Try you 688 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: have to pass it right in the paint. Adams has 689 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of a postgame, but he's not a 690 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: guy you're really throwing it download to um to get baskets. 691 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: Now you have been playing with Anthony Davis and his 692 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: jump shoot game. I know people like to talk about 693 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: the three pointer. I'm more interested in the mid range 694 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: pull up. Having a guy who can hit that shot 695 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: next to a d just opens the world up. I mean, 696 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: we saw Rondo would drive and people would just give 697 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: him that little lane right that little oh Man's land 698 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: where Biggs will come out too. But guards need to 699 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: be able to hit that shot in today's today's game 700 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: to open things up, and Shooter has that, um. And 701 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: I think him playing Stade will open him up. Um. 702 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: And obviously it will help a D as well. If 703 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: a D shitting that mid range jumper, then I'm not 704 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: sure how you really defend that at that point. And 705 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: obviously Harold, he obviously he played the five a lot, 706 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: which I thought was out of position a little bit 707 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 1: last year, especially defensively. Um. I thought Doc had him 708 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: on Bates. That just didn't make sense. Obviously the Denver series, 709 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: he was on Yo kitch for probably way too long. Um. 710 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: Now he gets to play on fours. I think he's 711 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: he's quickness that he uses on offense, he can use 712 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: that on defense. Right, He's a little bit more of 713 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: a blitz player. He shouldn't be back down and drop 714 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: coverages or things of that nature. So I think, um, 715 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: we can help them as well. UM coming here, Yeah, 716 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: and we're gonna We're gonna get defense here in just 717 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: a minute. And I am I I think there is 718 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: a case for how the Montres Harold signing can work 719 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: out on the defensive end. And we're gonna talk about that. 720 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: The last thing I want to say about the offensive end, though, 721 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: is something that I've talked with you about several times, 722 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: because so we look at the uh the Montrese Harold 723 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: and Dennis Shrewder signing as these two big six men 724 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: that came in to join these two stars in l A. 725 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: And I think it's important to remember that the Clippers 726 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: kind of had a similar thing going on last year. 727 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: They had Kawhi Leonard and they had Paul George, these 728 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: two star ball handlers, and then they had these two 729 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: six men and Lou Williams and Montrese Harrold. And one 730 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: of the big reasons why that didn't work is they 731 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: I thought that they m that the collective basketball i 732 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: Q of the team was too low in the sense 733 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: that too often Kauai and Paul George would become very 734 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: passive as all of the role players were heavily involved 735 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: in the game, and then when it came time for 736 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: them to turn it on, they never really had much 737 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: of a rhythm. Paul George in particular, really struggled with this, 738 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: and I think it's one of the reasons why he 739 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: was so hot and cold throughout the season. So while 740 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: all of those things we just talked about our great 741 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: on the offensive ent, and I'm a big believer and 742 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: everything that we just said, I still think it's very 743 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: important that while Lebron and Anthony Davis are on the floor, 744 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: they remain heavily involved in the offense. Now there there, 745 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: there's a way to do that. For instance, like, uh, 746 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: when Dennis Shooter is on the floor with Montrese Harrold, 747 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: the actions need to be run with Montrese, but they 748 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: also need to run with be run with Anthony Davis. 749 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis needs to get his touches because Anthony Davis 750 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: in a rhythm is still going to be a more 751 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: dominant offensive force than anything Montrese Harrold and Dennis Shooter 752 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: can hope to do. And the same thing goes for Lebron. 753 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: So where the where one of the biggest things they'll 754 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: bring is just depth, the ability for them over the 755 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: course of the seventy two game season to generate offense, 756 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: especially in nights where Lebron in a D arresting or 757 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: if Lebron in a D stay in the low thirties 758 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: in terms of their minutes per game, but at the 759 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: end of the day, I still think it's very important 760 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: to understand that this team will be at their best 761 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: when Lebron and a d are very aggressive on the 762 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: offensive end of the floor, and then having Dennis Shooter 763 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: and Montrese Harrold and all these guys kind of play 764 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: off of that to the best of their ability. I 765 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: think that's something to keep in mind. All right, So 766 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: the defensive end, this is something that I have been 767 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: confused by from not just Lakers Twitter, but from a 768 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: lot of from one of the more common things that 769 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: I've heard from Twitter, as people say things like, oh, 770 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: our defense might have gotten a little bit worse, but 771 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: our offense got way better, is one thing, or particularly 772 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: from a lot of people in the basketball analytic uh, 773 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, and a basketball analysis that you'll see on 774 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: Twitter from outside of the Laker community. You'll see a 775 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: lot of things about how the loss of JaVale McGee 776 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: and Dwight Howard are a loss of length and athleticism 777 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,479 Speaker 1: on the interior. You'll hear things like that, or you'll 778 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: hear about the loss of Avery Bradley, or you'll hear about, 779 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, Danny Green's positional defense, Danny Green's helped defense. 780 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: Things along those lines, and how losing those things actually hurt. 781 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: They're uh there this team on the defensive end of 782 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: the floor. So my question for you is relative of 783 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: two last year's Laker team, which I've said was the 784 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: best defensive team in the league because even though they 785 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: didn't have a better defensive rating than Milwaukee, they were 786 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: playing better offenses night in the night out. They finished 787 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: with the third best defensive rating in the league and 788 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: the absolutely dominant defensive performances against a bunch of really 789 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: good offensive teams, right Houston, Denver, really good offensive teams. 790 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: And then obviously when they played the worst offensive they played, 791 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: which was Miami, they really strangled them from time to time. 792 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: So relative to that team, how do you feel about 793 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: this Laker defense? I think I think sometimes you try 794 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: to complicate things. I mean, I feel like the reason 795 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: that Laker team was so dominant is because they have 796 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: an Anthony Davis on their team, Like that's the versatility 797 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: of Anthony Davis allows you to have the kind of 798 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: defense they did. Now, I think they do lose some 799 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: with Dwight Howard. I think him and a d playing 800 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,479 Speaker 1: together as like a physical force was something that really 801 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: helped the team last year. But looking at with Javel, 802 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: he's a he's a room protector, but he's a different 803 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: kind of room protecting the marketsol. So I don't think 804 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: you kind of I don't think you lose that, and 805 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: I think what you gain an i Q defensive i 806 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: Q And also Marcus all is more of like a 807 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: straight ahead, verticality defender. I think that's just as effective. 808 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: There was a lot of times with Jabel would just 809 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: try to block everything in sight. UM it would kind 810 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: of lead to guards be able to bate him at 811 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: the rim um and things and like things like that. 812 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: So I think they can keep it up. I think 813 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: Danny Green's um wing defense was good. I think it 814 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: fell off in the bubble um. There's a lot worse 815 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: going forward in the playoffs UM, and I think they've 816 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: replaced that with Wes Matthews. I think he's a better 817 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: um on ball defender. I think he's more similar to 818 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: Avery Badley kind of they kind of replaced that. And 819 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: then UM, I think k CP showed that he can 820 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 1: fill in that Danny Green role. He chase guys off screens. 821 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: He's not as tall as Danny Green is, but I 822 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: think he can fill in and then off the bench. 823 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: Shrewder has good defensive metrics, at least from looking at 824 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: his numbers from last year. Harol. Obviously, I think was 825 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: just played in the wrong position. Um, that's still going 826 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: to be seen, but I think they can still play 827 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 1: that way. I think a little bit their identity went 828 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: out with Dwight Howard. I think that was a big 829 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,959 Speaker 1: part of the bench units. He would come in and 830 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: we can see if Harrod kind of do that. He's 831 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: in the same mold, right. He likes to dominate with physicality. 832 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: He likes to dominate by attacking the rim. Um. He 833 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: screams after a lot of dunks, similar to how Dwight 834 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: Howard did, and uh, I know we laugh about that, 835 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: but that was a part of the Lakers identity, right 836 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: when Dwight comes in and he gets offensive rebound and 837 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: dunks it and screams, Yeah, the bench screams and it 838 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 1: gets the team going. Um. So I think that's kind 839 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: of how they see that. Similarly, and obviously Harrold is 840 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: a much better offensive player. You can, like you said, 841 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: you can throw in the isolations, but looking at the defense, Um, 842 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: he's more of a switchable player. I think he can 843 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: switch a lot more than Dwight could on the perimeter, 844 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be interest. I think they can still 845 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: keep their defense, um afloat. I'm not sure if we'll 846 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: get another Lebron defensive year as we did last year, 847 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: so I think that would be a part of it 848 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: as well. I'm sure you'll speak to that, but um yeah, 849 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: I think they can still they can continue it from 850 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: the season before. Yeah, so I think, um so, to 851 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: be clear when it comes to there's a reason why 852 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: basketball analysts will be a little bit more pessimistic about 853 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: the Laker defense as it pertains to what they lost 854 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: at the center position. But as with any type of 855 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: defense that you can bring to the table, as with 856 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: any type of defender, there is a given a take. So, 857 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: for instance, like if you're a high i Q low 858 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: physical gift defender, you bring a lot of like uh, 859 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: you bring a lot of like consistency in the sense 860 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: that you're always in the right place at the wrong 861 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: at the right place, at the right at the right time. 862 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 1: Unless you make fewer mistakes, you give up fewer wide 863 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: open shots. But with physical limitations comes the simple fact 864 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: that really athletic offensive players can get high quality looks 865 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: in isolation against you, or in the case of a 866 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 1: center at the rim, like when you have a Marc 867 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 1: Asol type or Montrez Harald type, a guy who an 868 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: athlete who is slashing to the rim, experiences no hesitation 869 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: in what he's thinking about when he's going to the basket, 870 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 1: compared to the Javail McGee Dwight Howard mold, where it's 871 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: there's like a little bit of a fear, there's a 872 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: little bit of in the back of your head, this 873 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 1: idea that you know, I can't get sloppy around the basket, 874 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: They'll send it into the third row. And I do 875 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: think that that matters, without a doubt. I don't want 876 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: to gloss over that and just make it seem like 877 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: it's an apples to apples comparison, because it's not. The 878 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: matter is the downside of the JaVale McGee Dwight Howard 879 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: experience is part of that equation as well, and that 880 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: is that they had a little bit of a tendency 881 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: to get out of position, to make silly foul. JaVale 882 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,399 Speaker 1: McGee is always falling all over the place, jumping out 883 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: of his shoes, against a weak pump fake or things 884 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: along those lines. That kind of stuff goes out of 885 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: the window with the Marcusol experience. And so that's from 886 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: that standpoint, like I'm a believer that with the athleticism 887 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: that Anthony Davis brings to the table, with Lebron who's 888 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: actually a highly underrated back line defender, and his ability 889 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 1: to rotate to the basket, jump completely vertical, not commit 890 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: a foul, and deter layups around the rim. When you 891 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: have that kind of stuff around the basket, the it 892 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: could be a little bit more flexibility with what you're 893 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: doing with Marcusol and most importantly, the Lakers when they 894 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 1: were at their best in the postseason, We're not playing 895 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: dwighter debail in the in and uh at the end 896 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: of these games when they were really strangling and putting 897 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: these teams away, they weren't relying on those guys. So 898 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking at their defense. While they brought a certain 899 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: element to the defense, it wasn't the only reason why 900 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: they defended well. It was part of their entire scheme, 901 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: chasing guys off three point line, forcing them into Anthony 902 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: Davis and Lebron and just really good commitment and effort 903 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: and habits that's what actually put their defense together. And 904 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: then you said before I loved your comparison of of 905 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: Wes Matthews to Avery Bradley, because West Matthews is like 906 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: the wing version of Avery Bradley. He's a little bit undersized, 907 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: but he's extremely latter, really quick, and he's very good 908 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,919 Speaker 1: at using his hands without getting called for fouls, which 909 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: is like a it's like a gift. It's like a 910 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: magic ability that he has where because I've on against 911 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 1: guys like this in my time playing where it feels 912 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: like they're fouling you, like you're trying to get around him, 913 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: and it's like this dude's holding me in in my space. 914 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,240 Speaker 1: But it's a call because there's just a natural gift 915 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: in the way that he hand checks you, in the 916 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: way that he can kind of get his body in 917 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 1: your way to where it just never gets called. Uh. 918 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: Andrea Gudala has another great example of someone like that, 919 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: but Wesley Matthews, because he's a little bit taller and 920 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: because he's a lot stronger, he kind of had that 921 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 1: Avery Bradley effect against bigger wing offensive threats. And that's 922 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: what I what I like in that regard. But I 923 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 1: think that while Danny Green was a little bit bigger 924 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: and a little bit better off ball instinctually kind of 925 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 1: being in the right spot as a help defender, Wesley 926 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: Matthews just so much better on the ball that I 927 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: think that it's kind of like, uh, it's something that 928 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: the Lakers can still scheme around and make it work. 929 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, all of the 930 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: core pieces that made their defense great Alex Caruso Contavious 931 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: called Will Pope, uh, someone in that Danny Green mold, 932 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: which of Danny Green, West and Matthews, whatever you gonna 933 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: call it, Lebron James, Anthony Davis, all of those pieces 934 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: are there, and no matter what, as long as the 935 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: habits are still instilled and as long as they care enough, 936 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: they should defend better than they did last year's because, 937 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: especially since Rajon Rondo was another kind of weak link 938 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: in the defense last year in terms of his seen 939 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: his effort. Dennis Shrewder is not a great defensive player, 940 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: but he's a much better defensive player, especially in terms 941 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: of what he brings athletically to the table. He's quicker, 942 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: he's got long arms, and he can be disrupted, so 943 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: it comes down to the lebron thing which you method, 944 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: which you mentioned, So as someone who's cheered from his 945 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: whole career, I am really interested in seeing what he's 946 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: going to bring to the table this year. From an 947 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: effort standpoint, I think we'll know pretty early on. I 948 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: think I think we'll be able to be make a 949 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: more informed decision after we see him play a few games. 950 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: That set what makes me optimistic, because there are a 951 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: lot of reasons to be pessimistic that they're on such 952 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: a quick turnaround. He's in your he's coming already at 953 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: the top of the mountain. There's a little bit less motivation. 954 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: The optimism for me comes from Anthony Davis and the 955 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: new players that they brought to the table. A lot 956 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: of the times when the Lake, when the Cavalier teams 957 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: in the Miami Heat teams faded, when the Miami faded 958 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: defensively in two thousand and fourteen, when the Cavaliers team 959 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,720 Speaker 1: faded defensively in two thousand and seventeen, it was most 960 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: the same players. They basically brought back the same guys, 961 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: so there was complacency because it was the same group. 962 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: This is very different Laker group. This Marcosol being in 963 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: that locker room, Dennis Shooter being in the locker room, 964 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: Montrose Harold being in the locker roo, Wesley Matthews being 965 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: in the locker room, and West and Dennis and and 966 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,280 Speaker 1: Tres have never won a title. Right, You've got guys 967 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: in that locker room, have every that have every reason 968 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 1: to h to want to attack this season in terms 969 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: of their effort. And then the reason why, say Anthony Davis, 970 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: is this is a player who takes pride on the 971 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: defensive end. This is the player is one of the 972 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: few examples of a player in the NBA who's a 973 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: star in the NBA who's better defensively than he is offensively. 974 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 1: And so from that standpoint, like Anthony Davis, I believe 975 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: will have confrontations with Lebron as he fades at certain 976 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: points in the season in terms of his defensive focus. 977 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,720 Speaker 1: And after right, gives me optimism that the Laker defense 978 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: in terms of their effort, will be better than what 979 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 1: it was. Right. And Montres Harrow is in a quiet 980 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: duty either, Right, He's not going to just stand around 981 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: and watch Lebron not trying offense on defense. And yeah, 982 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: like you said, Anthony Davis kind of keeps him accountable, right, 983 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: he keeps him going. And then, like the quotes coming 984 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: out from Lebron, he doesn't sound like a guy who 985 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: was trying to walk into this season. Like he sounds 986 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: a good guy ready to go. UM And I think 987 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: he knows the states, he knows the chance he has 988 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,439 Speaker 1: to repeat it is like fifth fifth ring here. So yeah, 989 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: he looks ready to go. And I'm excited to see 990 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: if feel continuous defensive effort. I'm not sure like he'll 991 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 1: be every night like it was last season. Um, I 992 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: don't think that's um as necessary this year. I think 993 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: the talent that they have allows him to kind of 994 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: ease into a little more than last year. I think 995 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 1: last year is trying to prove a point um and 996 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: things like that. But yeah, I think I think you're right. 997 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: I think he'll be ready. You're ready to go. And 998 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 1: and two and two really small things that I think 999 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,800 Speaker 1: will help too. Is one. I think at some point 1000 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,439 Speaker 1: fans will rejoin the equation during the season. I think 1001 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: we'll see. But if fans rejoined the equation, that's going 1002 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: to bring back some nostalgia from Lebron because he hasn't 1003 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: played in front of fans in forever that will bring 1004 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: another competitive fire out of him and UH, and then secondly, 1005 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 1: the strengths of the team being able to limit his minutes. 1006 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: You know, if you look at the two thousand eighteen 1007 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: Calves for instance, he was in a situation where so 1008 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: much was on his play offensively, so much was on 1009 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: his plate and what he had to bring night tonight 1010 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: for that team to win that he couldn't really at 1011 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,399 Speaker 1: least he thought that he couldn't really put that much 1012 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: energy and effort into the into the defensive end of 1013 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,479 Speaker 1: the floor. This is an entirely situation. This team could 1014 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: be a championship contender if Lebron took ten shots a game. 1015 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, what's important with the Lebron experience 1016 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 1: years keep his minutes down around thirty two thirty three 1017 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 1: at night, and then have your new guys UH be 1018 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 1: hard on him when he slacks, and then he should 1019 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: have every reason to bring it. And then most importantly, 1020 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: like a lot of this falls on Vogel than him 1021 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: being that intense authority figure that will demand a lot 1022 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,439 Speaker 1: out of these guys. And I think that that makes 1023 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 1: me a little more optimistic. So yeah, definitely, definitely. So, uh, 1024 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,919 Speaker 1: what do you make of the Kyle Kuzma conundrum? Yeah, 1025 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: I think I asked you about this. Sounds like I 1026 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: wanted to kind of discuss it. Um. Sorry, the Kyle 1027 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: Kuzma thing is interesting because sorry, I think he's seen 1028 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: like differently online than he is. He's viewed, like his 1029 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: perception on Twitter or like with fans is so different 1030 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 1: than I think how the front office views him the 1031 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 1: front house, like how we've um is just like, you know, 1032 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 1: a average role player who kind of hit some shots, 1033 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 1: sometimes defense here and there. I think the front office, 1034 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: the front office fused him as a player they've developed 1035 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: for four years, right, They put time and effort into 1036 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: developing into a winning player, and that's what he became 1037 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,919 Speaker 1: last year. He became a winning player. Um, he wasn't great, 1038 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: he didn't shoot great from three, but you know, he 1039 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: defended well enough to play twenty three minutes a game 1040 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,760 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, right, there were players who got Benchedjaville 1041 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: was unplayable in the playoffs. Dwight Howard played one series 1042 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,879 Speaker 1: basically against Denver Calcus, averaging twenty three minutes a game. 1043 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,879 Speaker 1: I think matters in the playoffs he's not perfect. He's 1044 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 1: obviously not worth the money. He thinks he's gonna get 1045 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 1: around twenty million dollars a year. But obviously his off 1046 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: court stuff is what it is. It's not defendable. I mean, 1047 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: there's nothing I can say about his stuff that he 1048 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: does off the court. He opens the door to all 1049 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: the criticism for that, but just looking on the he 1050 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, he welcomes that. I think, Um, I think 1051 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: it's interesting how he goes about it. But you know 1052 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: that's heating neither here and they're just looking at on 1053 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 1: the court. He defends wings, and this team needs more 1054 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 1: wing defenders, right. It's kind of somehow it's more garden 1055 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 1: forward heavy. Um, So I think who's is going to 1056 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 1: play a role if he can hit his He shot 1057 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: like fifty from the corners, um. All everywhere else he 1058 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: kind of struggled. But even just doing that, stay in 1059 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: the corners hitting threes. UM. Looking back watching all the 1060 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 1: Bubble playoff games, I forgot how many like big shots 1061 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: he hit. He had a bunch of like run stopping shots, 1062 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: like the other team would go on like a fifteen 1063 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: four run and he hit like a huge three to 1064 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: kind of send the Tide and obviously those shots, um 1065 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 1: don't really get remembered. You remember, like the no look 1066 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 1: pass that he tries in a playoff game that just 1067 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: is nonsensible. There's no point of me. But yeah, exactly, 1068 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: those are things that get glorified um online. But like 1069 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: that's where I think it is that he's obviously not 1070 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: a great player, but um, he's not terrible either. And 1071 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: I think that's how the Lakers see him. He he 1072 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 1: was drafted by this front office. He's the last player 1073 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: on this team that was that first draft e right, 1074 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 1: He's longest drafted player on the team, and I think 1075 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 1: that's how he's seen. I remember last year people wanted 1076 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: to trade him and Danny Greens to New York for 1077 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: Marcus Morris and I just thought that was crazy because 1078 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: I thought there was no way the Lakers were just 1079 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 1: gonna salary dump him. Like there was just no chance 1080 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: that was happening. Um, so one of those guys, Yeah, 1081 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 1: I think I was like, what are you doing? But um, 1082 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: and there's another one for like Bach I think in 1083 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: uh Sacramento not Bogdomabilly, and um, yeah, so I think 1084 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: that's where I think that's where the team stands, and 1085 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 1: obviously he's gonna want money in the next offseason, which 1086 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: makes sense. Um, I don't think the Laborers are gonna 1087 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: pay him anything other than maybe the five six million 1088 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 1: that he's paid right now, but obviously he wants more 1089 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: than that, and that's fine. I just think there's no 1090 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: reason to just throw him to another team, as a 1091 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 1: lot of Lakers Twitter seems very ready to do. Um 1092 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: at the first side of the deal. Well, I think 1093 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 1: for me and entirely comes down to what you can 1094 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: get back. I mean acknowledging the reality of the situation 1095 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,919 Speaker 1: I think is important, which is that you're probably gonna 1096 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: lose Kyle Kuzma this summer because the reality is just 1097 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 1: look at what we saw this last offseason and teams 1098 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 1: throwing big fat contracts at players that are what you 1099 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: would consider to be average, you know what I mean. 1100 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,720 Speaker 1: Like I get like I was pretty excited about potentially 1101 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: bringing Dana Daniela Gallinari to the table this this summer. 1102 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,320 Speaker 1: But the reality is is Danielle Gallinari is only marginally 1103 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: better than than Kyle Kuzma and is probably an inferior 1104 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: defensive player, and yet he's playing for all that money 1105 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. So the reality is is like, you're gonna 1106 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: lose Kyle Kuzena this summer unless you want to completely 1107 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: hand handicap yourself in the salary cap moving forward. So 1108 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 1: then the question becomes, in the short term, just just 1109 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: this season, who do you have who can you get 1110 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 1: for Kyle Kuzma that could be potentially be better than 1111 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,720 Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzma um within the scope of this season, because 1112 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 1: the reality is whoever you get back, you're gonna have 1113 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 1: similar contract problems. If you bring back a bigger salary 1114 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 1: than Kyle Kuzma and he has multiple years left on 1115 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: the deal, it handicaps moving forward. If you bring back 1116 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 1: a person who's an expiring deal, now you have the 1117 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,720 Speaker 1: question mark about whether or not you lose that person 1118 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 1: for nothing. So all it's all relative to the deal. 1119 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is what is Kyle right now? 1120 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: He's an average NBA player. He is a below average 1121 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: ball handler, he's a below average shooter, and he's a 1122 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: below average basketball i Q. But what he does bring 1123 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: to the table is he's he's got a lot of size, 1124 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: and he's got a lot of confidence. So on any 1125 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,479 Speaker 1: given night, it minds you there's more bad than good, 1126 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: But on any given night, he can give you a 1127 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: significant scoring pop. And then, like you said, he's capable 1128 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: of hitting big shots because he's not scared of the 1129 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: moment in that regard. So from from that same point, like, 1130 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: that's that's what he is right now. He's your the 1131 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: eighth or ninth best player, seventh or eighth or ninth 1132 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: best player on this team. So the question becomes if 1133 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: you can potentially find some front office around the league 1134 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 1: who values Kyle Kuzma enough to give you a legitimate asset, 1135 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: something that you can either quickly parlay into something else 1136 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,879 Speaker 1: or something somebody that can help you more than Kyle 1137 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: Kuzma is in this particular season. I think you've got 1138 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: to pull the trigger on it, because I do. The 1139 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: reality is is like they can have as many conversations 1140 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: with Couza as they want, Rob Blincoln can tell him 1141 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,879 Speaker 1: as many you know, weird mythological tales as he wants 1142 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,760 Speaker 1: from books that he's read, eccentric whatevers. But the bottom 1143 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 1: line is is Kyle Kuzma is going to come to 1144 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: the table with an offer sheet next year that's signed 1145 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: from you know, Sacramento Kings or some some something stupid 1146 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,479 Speaker 1: like that, that's gonna be a four year, eighty million 1147 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 1: dollar contract, And and the Lakers are not going to 1148 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,359 Speaker 1: to sign that offer sheet unless they are a percent 1149 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: sure that no star in the next four years is 1150 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: coming to join Lebron in a D and L A, 1151 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,319 Speaker 1: which I just don't think they would handicap themselves like that. 1152 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 1: So accept the reality of the situation. He's an average 1153 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 1: NBA player. You're gonna lose him for for a big 1154 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 1: fat offer sheet this summer. So just taking on a 1155 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,320 Speaker 1: deal by deal basis, and if you see something that's worthwhile, 1156 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 1: jump on it. Yeah for sure. I mean I can 1157 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: also like see a scenario. I know this will kind 1158 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: of dry fans mad, I'm sure, but like, let's say 1159 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: just a scenario I'm throwing out. Let's say the Lakers 1160 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: went back to back. I see the Lakers giving him 1161 00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 1: like a Jordan Clarkson deal, Like I don't know if 1162 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: you remember the Lake signed Jordan Clastion to like a 1163 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: four year, fifty million yeah, which I think was a 1164 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 1: good deal. At the time. People thought of it as 1165 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 1: kind of a little overpaid by I mean, it was 1166 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,879 Speaker 1: it was a guy that they developed who they saw 1167 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,319 Speaker 1: getting better and they just invested that. Now, I don't 1168 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 1: think who's would take that. I think he wants a 1169 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: lot more than that. But I can see like if 1170 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 1: he doesn't get any offers, like say he shoot he 1171 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,959 Speaker 1: hasn't known the season where he shoots really poorly from three, 1172 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: or you know, he just doesn't get offer sheets from 1173 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 1: teams like that, because I think twenty million dollars is 1174 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: a lot of money from for any team to pay 1175 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,240 Speaker 1: k Kuzmi year. I don't care how much they believe 1176 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 1: in him. I think that's a lot of money. So 1177 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: I could see that as well. But yeah, you're right, 1178 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: they're probably losing next year. I'm sure they'll shop him 1179 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 1: at the deadline. Um. I think he understands that. I 1180 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: think they try to get maybe Bugonovitch for him this 1181 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 1: summer and that kind of fell through as well. But 1182 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 1: I think you're right, that's that's that's just what he 1183 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 1: is right now. And I think there's like a line 1184 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: that he's seen as like a super trash player or 1185 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,439 Speaker 1: like you know, there's some there's people who think he's 1186 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 1: he should be starting as well. There's like that section 1187 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,799 Speaker 1: of people exist, so there's like a fine line where 1188 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: he fits, and obviously his social media kind of tears 1189 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: that line apart. But um yeah, just looking on the court, Um, 1190 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: he is who he is. Like you said, well, likability 1191 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,840 Speaker 1: is a big part of what shapes are opinion on 1192 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 1: these players. I mean, like, when I'm trying to be 1193 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 1: a really unbiased, honest basketball analyst, I still think James 1194 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,240 Speaker 1: Harden is like the seventh third best player in the world. 1195 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,320 Speaker 1: But I hate that guy, and like it's just everything 1196 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 1: that he does drives me nuts, and in my opinion, 1197 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: like when I'm ranking NBA players, I want so badly 1198 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: to put him lower. And it's a similar thing with 1199 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: the Kyle Kuzman thing. He does so many unlikable things 1200 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 1: that it causes a lot of Laker fans to kind 1201 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,839 Speaker 1: of gloss over which and you you did a really 1202 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: good job of laying out all of the good that 1203 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 1: he brings the table. He is a good NBA role player. 1204 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: But the one thing that would make me nervous is 1205 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 1: even at that four years six million type of number 1206 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 1: four year fifty million, even if who's the brandies with 1207 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,399 Speaker 1: Puma is a Puma, Even if Puma was like, hey, 1208 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 1: listen under the table, take his l a deal instead, 1209 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 1: and we'll give you an extra five million a year, 1210 00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, or something like that. Like, the reality is 1211 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,920 Speaker 1: is like even at that number, even at four fIF 1212 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 1: four for fifteen a year, it's still kind of limits 1213 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 1: your flexibility when it comes to other stars. So from 1214 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,960 Speaker 1: that standpoint, I would want if as a like, like 1215 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 1: as a Laker front office person analyzing that situation, I 1216 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: would want to see a little more out of Kyle 1217 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 1: Kuzma just understanding it's kind of similar to the Montrase 1218 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: Harald thing, the Montres Harald thing. At the numbers. Just 1219 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 1: being at the numbers makes amazing sense. Paying nine million 1220 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: a year for a guy who's gonna get you eighteen 1221 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: points a game and you know, brings a lot to 1222 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: the table offensively, it makes it's a no brainer. But 1223 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 1: if you actually look at the hardcat and the fact 1224 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 1: that you can draw a direct line that costing you 1225 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: Avery Bradley and costing you Dwight Howard, it's a little 1226 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 1: bit more complicated. And that's the way that I look 1227 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: at it with Kyle Kuzma is if you if you 1228 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: want to bring in a third star, then you have 1229 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 1: to understand that the rest of your roster is basically 1230 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: going to be veteran minimum contracts and maybe guys that 1231 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 1: you have bird rights on, like like a contiguous called 1232 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: a pope. So bringing Kyle Kuzma back kind of does 1233 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 1: affect the long term strategy of the Lakers. So it's 1234 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: something it's something to keep in mind. It's not just about, oh, 1235 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 1: he deserves fifteen million, It's about what you're potentially losing 1236 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 1: as the dominoes fall further from that deal. But no 1237 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 1: matter what, like, let's give him another chance, like as 1238 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 1: is the case with all this stuff, like this is 1239 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 1: going to be his second full season playing under this 1240 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: type of role, with this type of talent. Give him 1241 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 1: another chance to see what he can bring to the table. 1242 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 1: All right, lastly, real quickly before I get you out 1243 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: of here, what is your prediction for the Lakers this season, 1244 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 1: both in their regular season performance and what you expect 1245 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 1: from them in the playoffs. Uh So, I still think 1246 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: they come out pretty well. I don't think they're as 1247 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 1: dominant in the regular season as they're last year. I 1248 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: expect a lot of more resting, not as much rest 1249 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 1: as like games off, but I'm expecting the goal as 1250 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,080 Speaker 1: hard as they did last year. Um, I still have 1251 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 1: to make it the one seed. I think their talent 1252 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: level is enough to get the one seed um in 1253 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 1: the regular season, and I still having them going back 1254 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: to back. I think when you have a title team 1255 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 1: that got better, I think it's only right you give 1256 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 1: them the benefit of the doubt, give them a chance 1257 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 1: to repeat. And I think they've gotten all the tools 1258 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 1: they have to repeat. Here, I'm not sure. I'm not 1259 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: sure what's stopping them. I mean, I think every contender 1260 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,479 Speaker 1: is either got worse or stayed pretty marginally as they were, 1261 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 1: depending how good you think surgery Baka is. But I mean, 1262 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 1: other than that, like every contender kind of stayed the same. So, yeah, 1263 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 1: I think repeat they repeat here. Yeah, So I've gone 1264 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 1: back and forth as it pertains to the regular season 1265 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 1: because of the Lebron thing, because of the classic issues 1266 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: that repeating teams deal are the two teams defending the 1267 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 1: title deal with And I kind of fell back to 1268 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: kind of the two thousand one Lakers model, which for 1269 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 1: two thousand one, the infusion was Kobe's growth. He got 1270 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: so much better than he was in the year two thousand, 1271 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: But the reality was it wasn't so much about them 1272 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 1: having to deal with apathy on there, and it was 1273 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,439 Speaker 1: the fact that the rest of the league just wasn't 1274 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 1: capable of hanging with them. And in my opinion, all 1275 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: of the contenders got worse. The Warriors, I mean, what 1276 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 1: we expected from the Warriors got worse. I think that 1277 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 1: got worse. I think Utah is more or less the 1278 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: same like the Clippers. It's hard to say, but I 1279 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 1: think they have the same fatal flaws that they had 1280 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 1: uh coming into last season. Dallas added stuff, but not 1281 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 1: enough to really be a difference maker in my opinion. 1282 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,959 Speaker 1: So the reality is by making the moves the Lakers made, 1283 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 1: they massively increased their margin for error on a night 1284 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 1: tonight basis. Adding players as talented as Denistrator Montrez, harrald 1285 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 1: and and and Marcus al West and Matthews, those guys 1286 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: make it so it's a little bit harder for you 1287 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 1: to lose night tonight. And when I when I think 1288 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 1: the talent gap has now increased between what the Lakers had, 1289 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Lakers had between them and any of their opponents on 1290 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 1: any given night, that gap has grown, and so in 1291 01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 1: my opinion, it will be a little bit harder for 1292 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 1: them to lose. And then I think just in general, 1293 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 1: the the back in the stadiums thing, the infusion of 1294 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,919 Speaker 1: players who haven't won a championship onto this roster, which 1295 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 1: is different from your stereotypical defending champion. I think all 1296 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: of those things will keep Lebron engaged. And I actually 1297 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: think the Lakers will end up with the one seed, 1298 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 1: which I think is something that a lot of analysts 1299 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 1: disagree with, and I think I really do think that 1300 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: it's it's shaping up for a season where the Lakers 1301 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 1: could win at about a sixty to sixty five win 1302 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 1: pace and uh and go into the right go into 1303 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 1: the postseason with with the number one overall seed, and 1304 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 1: so as far as the playoffs go, I more or 1305 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 1: less expect when I saw last year. I don't think 1306 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,440 Speaker 1: there's a single team in the league that can take 1307 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 1: them the six outside of the Los Angeles Clippers. I've 1308 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: talked about this at length. I think they're the only 1309 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 1: team in the league that has really built for to 1310 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 1: to have some matchup advantages against the Lakers. What they 1311 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 1: bring to the table with Paul George and Kawhi Leonard 1312 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 1: as mid range scores is they attack a specific gap 1313 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 1: in the Laker defense and the way that it's structured 1314 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,000 Speaker 1: and uh, and they have some size now with Tobaka 1315 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 1: and and Zoobach that can confront some of the size 1316 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 1: that the Lakers have. I really do think that they 1317 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 1: have the capability of at least making the Lakers sweat 1318 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 1: a little bit. But I predict something similar a you know, 1319 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 1: four or five game first round, four or five games 1320 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 1: second round, a little bit of a battle with the Clippers, 1321 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 1: and then a five game NBA Finals type of series. 1322 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm predicting at this point. Yeah. My 1323 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,840 Speaker 1: main kind of thing to look at is um Athene 1324 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 1: davis jumper. His mid range jumper obviously was insane Katie 1325 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 1: level of in the playoffs. Um, I'm not expecting it 1326 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 1: to stay at that at that rate, but if he 1327 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 1: can even be close to that, I'm not sure how 1328 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: a team really beats his team. Um, they look pretty 1329 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 1: unguardable when a d has his jumper going. I think 1330 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 1: he was hitting like mid range bull ups and they 1331 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 1: were still winning at like a sixty five one pace 1332 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: in the regular season. So in the playoffs that jumped 1333 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 1: to like, um, he was hitting him off the dribble, 1334 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 1: And if that's real, then you to shut this season down, 1335 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 1: because I don't think it is, and he's really going 1336 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 1: to happen if if he's still hitting those um at 1337 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 1: that rate, him getting better as he's entering in his 1338 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 1: prime and dealing with better spacing than he's ever had 1339 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 1: continuity with with his core role players. There there's like 1340 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 1: this scenario where you could just see this, you know, 1341 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 1: nice from last year type of m v P campaign 1342 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 1: from Anthony Davis, which would be really fun to watch. 1343 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 1: Uh And because there were there were some legitimate things 1344 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 1: on that Laker roster last year that constrained some of 1345 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 1: his strengths, and so I think it'll be cool to 1346 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 1: see what he does. But anyway, so I've had you 1347 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 1: for over an hour now, so I appreciate you taking 1348 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 1: time after a long day of work to come hang 1349 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 1: out and offer your expertise. As always, I really really 1350 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 1: appreciate you doing this to all of you have turned 1351 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 1: in and listened. I would imagine that Roger will be 1352 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 1: kind enough to join me several more times over the 1353 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 1: course of the season, so you'll be seeing lots of this. 1354 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: But thanks again, man, I really appreciate you coming on. 1355 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 1: No thanks for having me man. It's funny to see 1356 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 1: you and like all Lakers out now, so it's like, 1357 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 1: what's funny as you can see a little Yeah, actually 1358 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 1: had for a while. I have a lot here. That's 1359 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 1: awesome man, that's great to be here. All right, man, 1360 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 1: have a good night. I'll talk to you later, all right, 1361 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 1: you too, Thank you, Bro,