WEBVTT - Vomitoria

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the shorty. I'm Josh, there's Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>there's Jerry. We don't say last names on these because

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<v Speaker 1>we're crunched for time. Does that mean we need to

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<v Speaker 1>say welcome to the long form when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the other ones? All right, I think that's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Change is good, But you have to roll your L

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the long for WHOA, I didn't know you

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<v Speaker 1>were so good at that. Wait, there's an L, N

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<v Speaker 1>and R in there. Let's see if I can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the long from How is that you look

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<v Speaker 1>like and sound like you're underwater and eating peanut butter? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of eating peanut butter, did you know that in

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<v Speaker 1>ancient Rome, if you ate a couple of gallons of

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<v Speaker 1>peanut butter, it was very acceptable to stroll on over

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<v Speaker 1>to a vomitorium and throw it up and stick a

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<v Speaker 1>feather down your throat, or have sorry, have some young

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<v Speaker 1>child stick a feather down your throat, or Bill murray

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<v Speaker 1>so you could so you could throw up and then

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<v Speaker 1>eat even more peanut butter. That's right, Chuck, that's an

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<v Speaker 1>indisputable fact of history. Not true. No, And you know

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<v Speaker 1>what something was bugging me researching this, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've said something like on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>before where I referenced this being correct and it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably did. But I'm in pretty good company because

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<v Speaker 1>we've got this idea that that, yeah, in ancient Rome,

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<v Speaker 1>it was totally normal to go throw up basically binge

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<v Speaker 1>and purge, but purge in like a public area that's

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<v Speaker 1>designated to go purge. Um that that's been around for

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<v Speaker 1>at least since the nineteen twenties, and we can trace

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<v Speaker 1>it all the way back to Algius Huxley. Actually, who

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<v Speaker 1>who created this misconception? Yeah, I mean I thought this

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<v Speaker 1>was a true fact up until two days ago. Basically

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<v Speaker 1>everyone does. So don't feel bad again. You're in the

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<v Speaker 1>company of Algius Huxley. How you pren on that Huxley?

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<v Speaker 1>Not the first name Algius Algius? What do you pronounce

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<v Speaker 1>it as Deletrius? I think you're you're swapping the U

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<v Speaker 1>and the oh Aldus Aldus. I think it's Aldus. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I like Algius, all right, I've re christened him. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a very alguous person. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>that word means. I just made it up, Okay, good,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was really embarrassed for a second. Yeah. So apparently, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back to Rome to quote the Great Frank

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<v Speaker 1>Black and the Catholic song, uh vomitorius, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>pull of vomitory Um. There were these things in ancient Rome, apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was just a very well, to my ear,

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<v Speaker 1>weird name for a very u now common thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they actually know who was the first two references

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<v Speaker 1>a guy named Macrobius back in the fourth century CE.

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<v Speaker 1>He just used it as a term to describe, based clear,

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<v Speaker 1>a passage into and out of, say like the Colosseum,

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<v Speaker 1>where people would be disgorged out at such a gross

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<v Speaker 1>word into like um. Like you've been to Colosseum, right

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<v Speaker 1>to the Colosseum, Yeah, okay, same here. It's an amazing place. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's there's just a lot of walking space that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually really effectively designed. And one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>it's so effectively designed is because of these passageways to

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<v Speaker 1>basically to your seat and then back out into the

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<v Speaker 1>main walkway around the perimeter inside the Colosseum. Those places

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<v Speaker 1>in and out between the two those are vomitoria. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what do we call them today? It's a not

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<v Speaker 1>a portal but a portico maybe. No. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like it's like any modern stadium design. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>the hallway open thing that you walk through and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, now I'm in the stadium. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>call concourse? No? I think we should just go back

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<v Speaker 1>to calling the vomitoria. Yeah, I'm gonna say that next

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<v Speaker 1>time I go to a Falcons game. Hey, meet me

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<v Speaker 1>at the vomatory to pardon me? Can you direct me

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<v Speaker 1>to my vomatorium? I can't think of the word, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's really bugging me. I know what you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to say it's like portal too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a portal. Maybe some people call them that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that's what they're called, like sports. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so there were seventy six of these though around up

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<v Speaker 1>and down the coliseum. And apparently did you say how

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<v Speaker 1>many people that they could shuttle in and out of there? Yet? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently fifty thousand people could get in and out of

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, uh and like to their seats within about

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes. That's not bad, that's amazing. Can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>the porschemoho I just sit there in time it by

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the sun, so many went blind right until

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<v Speaker 1>it finally happened. They'd have to replace the first in

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<v Speaker 1>every thirty seconds they were carting him away. Would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I got thirty seconds. Uh, what is the name of

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<v Speaker 1>those things that's gonna buck me? I don't know. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we take a break and talk about Aldus Huxley again? Algius?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Right after this? All right, so you set

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<v Speaker 1>us up with Algius Huxley. What in the world did this?

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<v Speaker 1>How could in the world could he have affected this?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess he just heard of it before,

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<v Speaker 1>and basically he mentions it in passing in a single line.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote a comic novel um called Antick Hay about

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<v Speaker 1>post World War one decadent like upper upper class society

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<v Speaker 1>and um he just basically mentioned like a goth coming

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<v Speaker 1>into a vomitorium, and UM. I from the line I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it didn't even really seemed to be like he

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about the goth was gonna come throw up

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. Um. But that was the first

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<v Speaker 1>instance they could find if somebody using it not in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that Macrobius was was using it as that

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<v Speaker 1>portal thingy. Right, So so they think that he was

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<v Speaker 1>the first one to say this or put it down

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<v Speaker 1>and pen to paper. And you have to give him

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<v Speaker 1>a break because he just injected a tremendous amount of

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<v Speaker 1>LSD under his own eye before he started writing this, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna excuse him. The next person who gets

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<v Speaker 1>zero excuse whatsoever is Lewis Mumford. And he was an historian,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a critic. He should have known better. He

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<v Speaker 1>did not do his which apparently had been reading al

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<v Speaker 1>Drus Huxley and just basically cited it as fact in

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<v Speaker 1>one of his books, The City in History. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>he he full on to find it as uh, where

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<v Speaker 1>you over eat and you go and make yourself throw

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<v Speaker 1>up And he just made that up. Yeah, as a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of Huxley's I guess yeah, I guess so. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he ever took a drop of acet either.

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<v Speaker 1>He has zero excuse Lewis Mumford does. Uh. Well, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing though, and this is where it does get

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gross, because even though they did not originate

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<v Speaker 1>in ancient Rome, there are real vomitoriums, apparently in places

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<v Speaker 1>like Vietnam, and I look this up and I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find a picture and I did find one,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks like where you would go to the

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<v Speaker 1>sink and wash up in a public bathroom. But it

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<v Speaker 1>has it looks like a tiny toilet bowl, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>got the shape of a toilet bowl on a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like waist high. And then above this least this one

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<v Speaker 1>it had a little tiny toilet tank. Even it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a miniature toilet except waiste high. So I saw

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<v Speaker 1>when that was like a big stainless steel sink with

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<v Speaker 1>like one of those like dishwasher like you have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever washed dishes for a living? That was the first job.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, that's right. We talked about that, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you read out like everybody? And the Chase Barbecue? I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't d out anybody. What are you talking about? What

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<v Speaker 1>was it? I worked at JJ's. I was a boy

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<v Speaker 1>and dishwasher, but they stuck their tennis shoe and like

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<v Speaker 1>the Brunswick stewards that. Yeah, but I didn't read amount

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<v Speaker 1>I should have, Okay. Yeah, So anyway, um, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the dishwashing sink thing, the Fawcett it had like

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<v Speaker 1>one of those, so I guess you're expected to rinse

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<v Speaker 1>the sink out after you vomited into it. But the

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<v Speaker 1>way you know what you're doing and I saw your

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<v Speaker 1>picture too, um, is there's a sign, like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a road sign type graphic of of somebody throwing up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how you know to use it. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like thick action became reality. Yeah, so like

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<v Speaker 1>it has someone kind of been over heaving out. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Graphic Spew great great band name, right, they're

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<v Speaker 1>sort of they opened up for Guar for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I'll bet actually I did see a band

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<v Speaker 1>called Vomitory. Um. Oh, I'm sure Graphic Spew though, man

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<v Speaker 1>a lie. But apparently all over ho Chi Minh City

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<v Speaker 1>you can find these things, and some of them even

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<v Speaker 1>have um like pictures of ancient Rome and stuff, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess as a nod to the false claim that they

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<v Speaker 1>started in ancient Rome. My head's about a pop and

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<v Speaker 1>what about Germany? That gets even grosser. So this article

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<v Speaker 1>on how stuff works says that they're puke pants. They're

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<v Speaker 1>known colloquially as a puke pants. Not true. The only

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<v Speaker 1>place I saw that on the internet is in this

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<v Speaker 1>how stuff Works article. But there are vomitoriums in Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a place called Hoffbrow House in Munich. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>beer hall that's known to have I've been there. Oh really,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to the Hot Boy House. Did you see

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<v Speaker 1>the vomitorium? No, sorry, the puke pan. I did all

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<v Speaker 1>my puking in the potted plants. Oh there, you god,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's ghosh, man, that's like wearing white

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<v Speaker 1>after labor day. No, so there is one at the

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<v Speaker 1>Hot Boy House. Supposedly, that's what I saw on trip Advisor.

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<v Speaker 1>So our article claiming that in German frat houses that

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, I didn't know Germany had fraternitys. That's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be this. This whole thing just stinks of conception. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well their source was antique dash Photos whatever that is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Crystal Lynx site. I think. So. At the

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<v Speaker 1>very least we know that in Germany there are designated

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<v Speaker 1>puke places, and anyone who's I mean, I guess. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, you shouldn't be drinking so much that

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<v Speaker 1>you regularly throw up anyway, that's point number one. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever been in a bathroom stall and walked

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<v Speaker 1>in like Oh boy, I gotta pee and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>got vomit every where. It's one of the worst experiences

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<v Speaker 1>you can have as a human. Yeah, especially if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to pee but have to pooph We'll forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Trainspotting. What is I never saw that movie?

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<v Speaker 1>What happens? Then? Well, there's a scene where he goes

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<v Speaker 1>to throw up some heroine that he had ingested so

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<v Speaker 1>he can shoot it. Man. It's like it's a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a dreamy sequence of the bathroom is labeled as

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<v Speaker 1>the worst bathroom in Scotland, and it's nasty, and he

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<v Speaker 1>pukes in there and then reaches in and eventually you

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<v Speaker 1>and McGregor goes all the way into the toilet and

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<v Speaker 1>swims around. So it's it's a fantasy sequence. It does

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<v Speaker 1>sound a little dreamy, you know, everyone's fantasy about going

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<v Speaker 1>into a poop puke infested toilet and swimming And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>missing out not having seen train Spotting. Yeah, it's a classic. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well I'll go check it out. All right, you got

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<v Speaker 1>anything else on this gross? I'm ready to move on. Yeah,

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