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Speaker 2: The volume. Even though Maul was getting killed for the

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Speaker 2: old Kendrick take about Toronto, I did see a lot

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Speaker 2: of people agreeing with him on the Wayne thing. And

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Speaker 2: I'm here to argue, I think every legend we've had

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Speaker 2: has dropped a dud.

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Speaker 3: Every legend has not dropped a dud. A dud.

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Speaker 4: First of all, do you know what a dud is

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Speaker 4: where we can unanimously say that shit is trash.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Eminem is a legend?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do you think Eminem has dropped the dud?

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Speaker 5: Yes? Fifteen of them.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go down.

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Speaker 2: That's a little while. But by jay Z Standard, I

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Speaker 2: think Blueprints it was a dud.

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Speaker 5: You don't need to say by jay Z standard.

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Speaker 3: No, but that's how he only compare legends to themselves.

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Speaker 5: No, we don't know, we don't. We don't compare legends

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Speaker 5: to other one.

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Speaker 4: We talked about Wayne last week. He wasn't comparing them

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Speaker 4: to himself. He was comparing it to the albums that

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Speaker 2: I'm not huge on NAS's untitled album. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: say that we're dud. Is it a dud? But that's

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Speaker 2: better than his worst ship is better than everybody else's

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Speaker 2: hot shit, So like, yes, it was a dud.

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Speaker 3: Nah, I don't think it was a dud.

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Speaker 2: He had to change the name. Blueprint two is not

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Speaker 2: a dud. It's the bottom of his That doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: it's a dud. I'm sure like numbers wise, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: it's sold. But Wayne is doing what one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty k first week? That's not a dud. But Blueprints

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Speaker 2: teamle would kill to sell that people only a list

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Speaker 2: rappers right now would kill to do those first week numbers.

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Speaker 4: Yes, numbers got a dud. Those numbers they would that music,

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Speaker 4: They wouldn't so what's a dud?

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so now let's have that conversation. If you if

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Speaker 4: you feel like BLUEPRINTWO is a dud? Why do you

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Speaker 4: feel like it's because most people don't like Bloopbern two

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Speaker 4: because they.

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Speaker 3: Feel like it was too much music.

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Speaker 2: It was yeh, a double disc, a lot of duds

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a lot of duds. Jayd

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Speaker 4: took some chances the Sean Paul think to me disgusting.

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Speaker 2: Wayne took some chances too.

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Speaker 3: I hate that record with Sean. We didn't need that one.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna say Down was a dud because

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Speaker 4: there's some crazy records on both of those discs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Magna Carter, I don't think it's slapped out you.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think it's as bad as

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Speaker 2: people make it out seem. I enjoy the album, But

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Speaker 2: all that anticipation, you and the you in jungle studios

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Speaker 2: with fucking mobile providers dud. You sell a million records

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Speaker 2: before the ship comes out because it's only on our phones.

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Speaker 2: Is it a dud that the anticipation for that album

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Speaker 2: became a dud? Yes, it got killed that first week.

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Speaker 4: Why are you you catering it to is it a dud?

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Speaker 4: Don't say me to anticipation that week, So now.

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Speaker 7: People would most people would say, if jay Z had

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Speaker 7: agree with that, but most people would say that Magna

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Speaker 7: Carta has gotten a bad rip. I think it's like

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Speaker 7: I grew Rory. I think it's a way better album

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Speaker 7: than people give it credit for. But most people will

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Speaker 7: say that back now.

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Speaker 3: Is it a dud?

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Speaker 2: I do believe you invented five G with it, and

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Speaker 2: you're in the studio Rick Rubin and Pharrell talking about

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Speaker 2: a metaphor for fucking the ocean, okay, and then it

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Speaker 3: So do you feel like Magna Carter is a dud?

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Speaker 4: You feel, I'm telling you not in not in the

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Speaker 4: scope of Jay's discography. You when you listen to the album,

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Speaker 2: After he tried to break down the sea sick line

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Speaker 7: Me dancing, he dancing, You got your throng on and

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Speaker 7: you shaking ass, you dancing.

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Speaker 2: You guys won't tell me what a doud is because

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Speaker 2: I tried to go with the definition of numbers, so no,

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Speaker 2: Magnet Carter would not be that. Now you guys are

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Speaker 2: telling me it's music that's objective. So I feel like

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Speaker 2: Magna Carter. But the consensus when that shit came out

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Speaker 2: after Timberland July fourth, watching fucking whatever game was on

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Speaker 2: where it was announced Timberland blew as speakers out, which

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Speaker 2: of my life. Yeah, it was a dud as far

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Speaker 2: as the critics and fans went that week. I like it,

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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I think also a lot of the

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Speaker 4: times dud can be subjective.

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Speaker 2: I think that for the definition we all feel dancing.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not dancing. I feel like the Lil Wayne

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Speaker 4: album that he just dropped was not good at all.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's a couple joints on there that's like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: Wayne is still in shady Rat. We agree that what

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Speaker 4: the music to me is just not I would never

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Speaker 4: go like if I don't go back to it and

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Speaker 4: actively play like at least half of the album.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's a dud.

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Speaker 4: If I don't go back to your album play at

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Speaker 4: least half of the tracks, you got sixteen tracks. If

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Speaker 4: I'm not going back and active we listened to at

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Speaker 4: least eight nine, that's a dud to me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if we're talking about legends that actively actively drop,

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Speaker 2: you can't name one outside of maybe Michael Jackson that

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Speaker 2: has never dropped a dud.

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Speaker 5: They would say Michael has a dud too.

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Speaker 3: What's Michael's does I don't I'm.

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Speaker 5: Sure someone would say that Michael has a dud. I

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Speaker 5: can't remember.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, people we just seen Freedhal was it

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Speaker 2: butterflies that they said was Michael's dud?

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Speaker 3: Who said that no where they at find find?

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Speaker 2: Who said their IP address find?

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Speaker 3: We need it?

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Speaker 4: We need to talk to this person like everybody cut

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Speaker 4: his route off.

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Speaker 2: Like I think outside, I think the Big Three are legends,

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Speaker 2: but I don't put them there yet. As far as

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Speaker 2: people have been dropping music for twenty five years, that's

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Speaker 2: the people I'm talking about now. Yeah, I think eventually

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Speaker 2: you're going to drop a dut if you stay active

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Speaker 2: and we've seen it with our legend, is it is

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Speaker 2: allowed to drop a dut.

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Speaker 4: Is it a dud or is it just like that's

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Speaker 4: the worst album you dropped, Because that's a difference.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But that's why I say you can only compare

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Speaker 2: legends against their own desography. I'm not I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to Wayne's worst work is better than mostly those favorite

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Speaker 2: for albums and then where you go back.

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Speaker 4: To Wayne's last album and play at least half of

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Speaker 4: those tracks, so then that's a dud.

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Speaker 2: But you also are saying that legends can't drop duds.

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Speaker 2: But said Eminema is a legend and we can all

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Speaker 2: agree here just dropped.

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Speaker 4: I said legends can't drop du I mean meaning that

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Speaker 4: if they if a legend drops album, that's not good,

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Speaker 4: like we hold them to a higher regard. So like

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Speaker 4: with the Wayne shit, because you was like, nah, it's okay,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, no, it's not like when you're a legend, you.

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Speaker 2: Can't drop a dud. But eminem has, he has and

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Speaker 2: it happens.

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Speaker 4: But I'm saying that you don't get a pass because

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Speaker 4: you were trying to say, like you was trying to

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Speaker 4: give Wayne a pass or drop a dud. Now you

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Speaker 4: don't get no pass for that. This gentleman right here,

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Speaker 4: Rory says, I agree with Maul.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Waltz. I agree with Maul.

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Speaker 4: If Wayne dropped an okay or just a good album,

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Speaker 4: the convo is completely different.

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Speaker 3: But if you're in the convo of one of the.

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Speaker 4: Greatest ever and you drop a dud that it has

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Speaker 4: it has to be made known that it was a dud.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. I don't feel this way. But do you

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Speaker 2: He Retired came Back was show me what you got?

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Speaker 2: Do you think Kingdom Come was deemed a dud when

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Speaker 4: Out Kingdom Come, Yeah, I'm not gonna say it was

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Speaker 4: deemed a dud, but a lot of people didn't like it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say dud though a lot of people didn't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it sound history.

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Speaker 2: I like it. I think it probably has one of

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Speaker 2: those best intros. Lost One is one of my favorite songs.

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Speaker 2: There's so much shit on there that's incredible. But let's

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Speaker 2: not all act like everyone didn't say that was a

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Speaker 3: I don't remember if everyone I student.

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Speaker 2: In line for the fucking reflective cover.

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Speaker 3: I don't I'd all opened it.

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Speaker 2: It was like a man could have stay retired.

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Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I can't speak to that, but I didn't feel me personally.

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Speaker 3: I didn't feel like it was a dud.

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Speaker 2: Okay, listen, I like Kingdom Come. You're I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: what the general public thinks.

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Speaker 3: Oh I don't, I don't. I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what. Well, yeah, did that come out? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't know what the fuck the general

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Speaker 2: Anything anything like king Now because uh wait, American Gangster

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Speaker 2: was what oh seven?

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Speaker 3: So Kingdom Come was maybe two years after that?

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Speaker 2: Oh now, because Ken Comes.

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Speaker 5: The Peach two thousand and three was Kingdom Come?

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Speaker 4: Oh hell no, I don't know what the general public.

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Speaker 4: And three I was these niggas was thinking. And oh three,

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Speaker 4: I was in second grade.

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Speaker 3: We didn't even have social media then.

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Speaker 2: We no more. After the Black Album Faded Black, when

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Speaker 2: he handed the Keys to the City over to You

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Speaker 2: and Bleak, he disappeared and then came back gave us

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Speaker 2: a reflective cover that we'd never seen. Everyone was disappointed

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Speaker 2: as far as the public went, Yes, that was the

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Speaker 2: overall consensus.

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Speaker 3: Anywhere you went was like, I'm not saying you wrong,

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Speaker 3: I'm just remember that.

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Speaker 2: Coming off the black album, retiring, going to deaf jam. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: everyone at that time, that first few weeks, everyone's like,

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Speaker 2: he could have probably just stayed retired. This ain't your return.

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Speaker 2: But people going to I do I.

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Speaker 5: Remember that consistently?

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Speaker 3: I would be like, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, now we're just rewriting history.

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Speaker 3: That is, I can't remember that. You was like sixteen.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't even sixteen.

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Speaker 2: He was like ten fourteen. Get the fuck out.

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Speaker 3: The general consensus was TV thirteen.

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Speaker 4: Be hold by the time dinner was done. You didn't

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Speaker 4: You don't think, well, that's different you're talking about the song.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying the general consistents about.

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Speaker 5: Their album Kingdom Come came out twentousand and six, peag Game.

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Speaker 2: I was sixteen, I was driving.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you still don't know what the general consensus was

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Speaker 4: Your world is so small as sixteen, you don't know

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Speaker 7: I get what you're saying, But kids run and run

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Speaker 5: Teenagers and young adults. Yes, they do.

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Speaker 7: When it comes to what's hot and what's popular, Yes,

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Speaker 7: That's now, But back then, the kids decide what music

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Speaker 5: Everybody appeals to kids.

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Speaker 7: You know that everybody is trying to appeal to thirty

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Speaker 7: jay Z has never.

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Speaker 4: Tried to appeal to kids. He has never made an

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Speaker 2: Are you about to tell me sixteen year olds are

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Speaker 4: I didn't thousand and six. I did not say that

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. That's all I'm speaking to. I'm speaking to

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Speaker 2: So what do you think singles are for? Like, why

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Speaker 5: Now, Hard Knock Life was definitely for forty year olds.

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Speaker 2: For sure, it's got any any kids. Their kids are

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Speaker 3: So that means it's four kids.

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Speaker 7: And when I say I'm talking about babies, I'm not

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about teenagers and young adults.

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Speaker 2: One of my early memories of the radio is more money,

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Speaker 3: MTV is these songs appeal to anybody? What are you talking? BT?

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Speaker 5: One oh six in Park, MTV.

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Speaker 7: All of those things were they appealed to to kids,

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Speaker 7: not children, but to kids.

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Speaker 2: When they went to the winning it wasn't a bunch

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Speaker 2: of forty year old's like yeoh salute. It was a

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But that's again, I'm not saying that what you're saying

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Speaker 4: is wrong. I'm saying these artists are not going jay

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Speaker 4: Z in particular, is not going in the studio making

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Speaker 4: That's not what he's doing. He's making music and whoever

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Speaker 3: He's not, of course.

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Speaker 7: But but back when jay Z was also young, he

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Speaker 5: No, you don't think that that was happening.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but again, you talking about rap. Rap is a

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Speaker 4: one exactly, So it's gonna appeal to a younger audience

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Speaker 4: just by the nature of the culture. But when you

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Speaker 4: and telling you fiends could catch a freeze off my

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Speaker 4: knee cap. He ain't saying that for kids, of course

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Speaker 4: not No, all right, So I'm just saying he's not

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Speaker 4: making it for kids. It's gonna appeal because it's hip hop,

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Speaker 4: it's rap. This is what kids are in the in

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Speaker 4: But they're not the ones that determine if that if

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Speaker 7: Or not, Like, no, that's not but see that, And

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Speaker 7: that's just what we're gonna have to disagree. We're gonna

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Speaker 7: have to disagree that is who determines what was hot

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Speaker 7: or not because those are back in those days and

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Speaker 7: You were marketing towards younger adults because younger adults are

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Speaker 2: Why was why was the fourth quarter at that time

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Speaker 2: always the time when rappers put out their albums. It

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Speaker 3: That's why, Yes, because of Christmas?

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Speaker 4: Then why oh, because it was the end of the

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Speaker 4: year reporting for the.

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Speaker 3: Labels, and then the numbers had to match for the year.

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Speaker 2: And what what is the highest game we're just talking about.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't your brother.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you. It wasn't just for Christmas though, DoD

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Speaker 2: that's the highest consumer rate. At that time, people are

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Speaker 2: I put it. But everything at that time, what are

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Speaker 4: Yes, Christmas time, people by gifts. I get that part.

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Speaker 4: Christmas is catered around buying gifts of kids. Kids are

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to tell you is when rappers put out music,

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Speaker 4: what was hot based on what the older niggas in

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Speaker 2: We're saying Numbers was hold from everything.

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Speaker 4: Snoop was hot because the older niggas on my block

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Speaker 4: said he was hot. Only knew DMX was dope because

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Speaker 7: You're saying that the older niggas on your block. Were

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Speaker 4: It ranges from twenties to thirties to forties. It was

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Speaker 4: I'm saying is you can me be and me be

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Speaker 4: At thirteen to fourteen, I only knew. I only knew

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Speaker 4: Snoop was dope because dudes that had cars, older dudes

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Speaker 4: that was riding around listening, that had the girls, That's

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, I wanted the nigga that.

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Speaker 7: Was in between nineteen and thirty. Maybe they were not

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Speaker 3: They weren't kids though, back to this, because they were

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Speaker 7: But I've been been clarified that when I say kids,

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Speaker 3: Well, that's not kids, and that that changes everything you

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Speaker 2: You can't take you say making content that's not for kids,

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Speaker 2: is it? Like Eminem's whole entire career why he blew

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Speaker 5: Kids, never for kids, but he had kids as fans.

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Speaker 2: That's what will separated eminem from everything was because the kids,

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Speaker 2: myself included. It felt like, damn, this is dangerous to

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Speaker 5: Nicki Minaj fans as well.

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Speaker 7: Nicki Minaj's fans were all young kids, like they were

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Speaker 2: Her music not pussy the whole time. The intention isn't

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but the kids are is what's going to make

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Speaker 7: there's only so far you will go. There's only so

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Speaker 7: You can have the kids and not have the adults,

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Speaker 7: hints the Playboy cardies, hints the Ice spices. You can

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Speaker 7: have the kids and not have the adults and still

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Speaker 7: It doesn't work unless you're already a legend and you've

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Speaker 2: You did you know that the public's views of Volume

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Speaker 2: the public use, No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: Kill. I knew the views on the people in my neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what I'm talking about, the peer, the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they fucked with it.

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Speaker 2: But you how old are you?

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Speaker 3: Sixteen sixteen to fifteen sixteen? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So why why can't a sixteen year old know what

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Speaker 4: No, you're talking about that. You said the general consensus? Yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: you knew the people in your radius, in your neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: You didn't know the general consensus of what this this

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Speaker 4: the people in your neighborhood were saying about it. You

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Speaker 4: knew what the people in your boss school. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: that's not a thing. That is a thing. But when

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Speaker 4: you say general, I'm thinking you thinking like the entire

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Speaker 4: like what is the entire fucking country saying about this

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Speaker 4: artist that just dropped?

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Speaker 3: Like how we know now when the artist.

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Speaker 4: Drop, we can know what everybody is feeling about it,

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Speaker 4: or what everybody seems to be feeling about it.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like that in ninety seven. What are you talking?

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Speaker 2: For the most part, everyone has similar thoughts.

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Speaker 7: Not exactly depending on the regions and things like that.

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Speaker 7: Because I grew up thinking that the general consistence was

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Speaker 7: that jay Z was the best rapper to ever have wrapped.

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Speaker 7: And then I started meeting niggas from the South and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 4: Again that's false too, because a lot of niggas in

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Speaker 7: A lot of niggas from the South do, but a

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Speaker 7: consensus that it's well known that jay Z is the

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Speaker 7: greatest rapper of all time. In the South, it is

444
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Speaker 7: not looked at like that. Yeah, but it's a big

445
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Speaker 7: debate like this.

446
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Speaker 4: But even here man in New York, there's a lot

447
00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:49,719
Speaker 4: of people in New York that don't feel like jay

448
00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:50,720
Speaker 4: Z is the best rapper ever.

449
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, but we look at them like weirdose.

450
00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,000
Speaker 2: Because they are. But I think this is semantic claim

451
00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,280
Speaker 2: and no, I can't prove it, but everyone knows how

452
00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:00,840
Speaker 2: them come came across.

453
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Speaker 7: In the beginning, like I would have to agree with you,

454
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Speaker 7: as I had a father who was a jay Z fan,

455
00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:06,760
Speaker 7: I would have to agree with you.

456
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Speaker 2: It wasn't actually till way later whenever it's like, yo,

457
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,480
Speaker 2: remember we used to kill this album, And she was

458
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Speaker 2: all right, you know, she.

459
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Speaker 3: Just said what her father said about the album. Somebody older, okay,

460
00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,440
Speaker 3: and then that's how she felt about the album.

461
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Speaker 2: Yo. At sixteen, I like, I knew people that were twenty.

462
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Speaker 2: I know that sounds insane, but yeah, like I knew

463
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Speaker 2: older people.

464
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying you didn't.

465
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying you got most of what you felt

466
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Speaker 4: from an album based on the older people that were

467
00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,960
Speaker 4: around you and what they were saying how they.

468
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Speaker 3: Felt about the music. That's just how it's always been.

469
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Speaker 2: I felt at sixteen seventeen Black album was better.

470
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Speaker 3: Okay, you can still.

471
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Speaker 2: Listen back to the movies to see it.

472
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Speaker 4: Like I'm saying, you can't listen to something no matter

473
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Speaker 4: what age.

474
00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,960
Speaker 2: I felt like it wasn't older people telling me it

475
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Speaker 2: was bad. I was like, this ain't I mean, this

476
00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:52,800
Speaker 2: ain't that.

477
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Speaker 7: But because it don't always go like that because I

478
00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,000
Speaker 7: also my father thought Soldier Boy was the worst thing

479
00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,560
Speaker 7: that ever happened to music. My father also thought that

480
00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,960
Speaker 7: Drake was the worst thing that ever happened to music.

481
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 7: And I used to sit and play fucking Drake Sojia Boy,

482
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,480
Speaker 7: all of that, crank that shit, all of that lean

483
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,600
Speaker 7: with a rock, with all of that, I used to

484
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 7: smake my father sit down and listen to it.

485
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Speaker 5: So there was no matter how trash he told me.

486
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 7: It was like, I insisted that it was good because

487
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,080
Speaker 7: it was good to me and because it was.

488
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Speaker 4: Good to feel how you feel. But I'm just saying

489
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 4: most of where you get your taste in music. You

490
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Speaker 4: hear artists now when they sit down and speak, they

491
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Speaker 4: talk about what their parents were playing in the house. Yes,

492
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 4: they talking about as what older people were playing in

493
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Speaker 4: the cars. Like that's where you get your influence and

494
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,639
Speaker 4: how you see how people are around you are feeling

495
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Speaker 4: about music that's coming out. That's where you pick that

496
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Speaker 4: up from. It's the older generation. It's like, Okay, they

497
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 4: fucking with that. This is what's playing outside. When I

498
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 4: go outside, everybody drive past, They're playing this.

499
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Speaker 3: In their car.

500
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Speaker 4: That's just what it was. Yeah, that's how you fell

501
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 4: in love with most of your music. You would hear

502
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Speaker 4: you would hear it moving around outside, hearing in cars,

503
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Speaker 4: hearing it playing out of somebody's window, like that's what

504
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 4: it was. And then you would be like, y'all, I

505
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,920
Speaker 4: need to go get that mixed tabe or that CD.

506
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 4: I need to go play that Daniel, start playing it

507
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 4: on your way to school, listening to your headphones. Like,

508
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 4: but you found it from older people in your neighborhood.

509
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.

510
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 2: Like that had that plays a large part of it,

511
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Speaker 2: for sure, but it doesn't shape in opinion.

512
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 3: No, no, no them, It doesn't shaping opinion.

513
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 2: But I remember arguing from about volume three it was

514
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 2: just that is a special place in my I like

515
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 2: that album more than most people because it was like

516
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 2: one of the first cit he's ever had. But I've

517
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 2: heard people tell me, like, you like, what's the song

518
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 2: Mariah Carey that Squizz did. It's like one of the

519
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 2: worst j Z songs ever. It's like one of my favorites.

520
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 5: Here's the most sweetheart.

521
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Speaker 2: No, that's it's like one of the worst Swizz beats ever.

522
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 3: It's the things that you do.

523
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Speaker 5: Oh, I know.

524
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember everyone killing that and I loved it.

525
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 2: Like that doesn't shape your opinion, but I guess the

526
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 2: environment would. I don't know. We just went on a tangent,

527
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Speaker 2: I know.

528
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 3: Just pissed.

529
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 5: It wasn't it wasn't a bad tangent.

530
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we can go to voice most.

531
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Speaker 4: Well, congrats on your move, ABD. Hopefully stay out the

532
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 4: Brooklyn streets. Summertime is upon us. Gonna be out there

533
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 4: acting up.

534
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 3: Please.

535
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 5: I think I think I'm being a relationship by August.

536
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 3: Oh god, here we go with this ship.

537
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 5: I'll be out the streets, so we're good.

538
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 3: Oh boy, what's next? On a docking?

539
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 5: Toronto shows up for Kendrick. You gonna talk about that?

540
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about that. Anybody been in my mentions?

541
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 2: Anybody show Yeah? Man, but you know, trying to tell

542
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 2: you it's a shitty take then, yeah.

543
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Speaker 4: But you know what, you know what it is, man,

544
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 4: I'd be underestimating how many fucking goofy's out here. Oh

545
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 4: my god, how many idiots out here in the world,

546
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 4: like you showed up for somebody that was shitting on y'all.

547
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,360
Speaker 2: Toronto is the third largest city in North America, right

548
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: you don't think Kendrick Lamar has fans Kendrick.

549
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 4: We know Kendrick has fans in Toronto, but I just

550
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 4: you know, people were supposed to that show. You were

551
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 4: supposed to not go to the that specific show. But

552
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Speaker 4: you know why, because he's shitting on the city of Toronto.

553
00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 6: Is he?

554
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,199
Speaker 3: What the fuck you think? They not like us?

555
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: Who you think?

556
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 3: Who's they? And they not like us?

557
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: Specifically talking like.

558
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 4: Ads, That's exactly who he was talking about. He was

559
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 4: talking about Canadians, Torontonians, to be exactly.

560
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: I thought he was trying to separate between people that

561
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 2: are of the culture and the people that are not.

562
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 2: He's saying they're not like us, And.

563
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 3: Oh that's what you thought. It's definitely not what he

564
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 3: was saying.

565
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, so all you, all you idiots in Toronto that

566
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 4: brought a ticket to that show, just do it.

567
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 2: Just didn't they become us? If they were at the

568
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: show singing them no? Maybe they wanted to become the No.

569
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 4: That's that's why they're exactly why they're fucking goofy. Anybody

570
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 4: that went to that show as a Torontoni is a goofy.

571
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 3: Can't go to that show?

572
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 4: Man, You just can't You're not supposed to gotta stand

573
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 4: for something.

574
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Speaker 5: Can you just say that you were wrong about what about?

575
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: What?

576
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 7: That you were wrong about your take about? Yeah, say

577
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 7: I was wrong. I thought that they were gonna he

578
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 7: was gonna get laughed out of the arena.

579
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 3: He didn't, man, I mean listen, man. Scizzle was there too, though.

580
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 5: So like, oh my fuck, okay, we.

581
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 4: Gotta give Scissors some props. 's not act like a

582
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 4: lot of people did see Scissors.

583
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: We're not going that.

584
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 2: I think people were there for one of the biggest artists.

585
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 3: Cool.

586
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if do you think anyone from Queens is

587
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 2: allowed to go to a Charris One show.

588
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 3: In that moment? No? Now today? If? Yeah?

589
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 5: Today?

590
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 6: Yeah?

591
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 2: When he does the Bridges over Queens, keeps on faking it,

592
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 2: not allowed to You're not allowed to.

593
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 4: Carros One wouldn't do that. That's not a part of

594
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 4: his set. He would, he would, and.

595
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 2: I'm sure he performed it last night somewhere.

596
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 3: Queen. What's Mine in Queens? You said in Queens, would

597
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 3: perform in New York City? You said in Queens? He

598
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 3: said in Queens. That's what he said at first.

599
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure kars One has performed the Bridge is over

600
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: in Queens before, and I'm sure people from Queens where

601
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Speaker 2: they are going to.

602
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Speaker 3: British, Let's find it. Let's find it so we could

603
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: go into such KRS.

604
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: That's such a specific Queens said, yeah, let's find the

605
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: members from Queen's Bridge there.

606
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: I'm willing to bet that.

607
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 4: Kr ress one never performed that song in Queens. I'm

608
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 4: willing to bet that.

609
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 6: I'm also willing to bet that we'll never know because we.

610
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 4: Was sitting in there. We can find anything, we can

611
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 4: find you rapping on the internet. We can't find KRS

612
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,959
Speaker 4: one rapping in Queens.

613
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 2: Where was everyone holding up there like IDs to let

614
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 2: you know where they were from? I think we got

615
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: one here.

616
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: I guarantee you jobs doesn't have it.

617
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Speaker 5: Damn in the title video, I'm.

618
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 3: N for being wrong.

619
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he's performing it.

620
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Speaker 5: Fast forward.

621
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: Gosh see that means the Bronx one. Oh no, the.

622
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 4: Bronx back then. We knew that, wor that's not that's

623
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 4: not what we're trying to figure out here.

624
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 3: We know that.

625
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 2: Well. I mean, listen to I think it's fine that

626
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: any Canadian went to go see somebody they enjoy. It's clown.

627
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: So you're you're saying you were wrong because you had

628
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: more confidence in the Greater Ontario area.

629
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 4: No, I mean, we obviously know that Kendrick is who

630
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 4: he is, Like people were gonna go to a Kendrick show,

631
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 4: But to see people from Toronto crip walking like deception

632
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 4: in Toronto, I don't know, but to be crip walking

633
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 4: at a Kendrick show and being you look stupid.

634
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: And they're gonna think I'm hating. But I want to

635
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: see the tour. But what is that section that they

636
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: keep posting? Is there like a gang section? Yo?

637
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 5: Please?

638
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: No, no, hear me. No, I know that. But have

639
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 2: you noticed at every single stop, not just in Toronto,

640
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 2: there's a specific area that's open where they could fit

641
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: way more people, and it just be like ten gang members.

642
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: They're dancing the whole time at every stop. No, they

643
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: don't be a girl, it.

644
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 3: Just be people dance like walking. I have a notice it.

645
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: Might be the set by me from the set, I

646
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: mean ship that's a cool gig.

647
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was disappointing to see that. I ain't

648
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: gonna lie. That was nasty. It's over, man, It's not,

649
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 3: it's not. And what's over what do you mean, what's over.

650
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 2: This entire thing?

651
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 4: Like, oh yeah, yeah, the beef ship. Yeah, nobody cares

652
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 4: about that.

653
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 5: That.

654
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: I mean for me that the Like Toronto show was

655
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 3: the end of it for me.

656
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: I guess that was probably the one thing people that

657
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 2: marked on their calendar seeing.

658
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 3: Me that that was the end.

659
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: I mean, who's the politician that said I went for sism?

660
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: So the uh.

661
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: Here's the thing I thought it was. I thought it

662
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: was odd that Drake posted that, even though I laughed.

663
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: But because we got this reaction, I'm happy Drake posted that.

664
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: I went for how you start copping? Please Jack meeting.

665
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: I went for saism, not Ken Drick. So why you

666
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: ain't leaving? Wh Kendrick got on stage? That's my whole thing.

667
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 2: Why you ain't leave White?

668
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: As soon as Sue says a set was over, why

669
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: not leave?

670
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 5: He wanted to hear all right cause niggas is lying.

671
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 3: He went there to see Kendrick.

672
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: I went to the GNX door, not to see Kendrick.

673
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, just stand on it. That's my only thing. With

674
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: all of the shit. Stand on That's all. I don't

675
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: care what. Just stand on it, and.

676
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: Stated Travis Scott versus pusha t M. When the clips

677
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: put out so Be It, I felt like a hip

678
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: hop novice because at the end of so be It,

679
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: which I think is incredible by the way, I think

680
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: the clips are two for two. The visual is incredible

681
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: as well. I thought pusha t was dissing Kanye West

682
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: just out the gate, and I thought he was just

683
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: using utopia because Travis is man like. I just thought

684
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: that was a wordplay thing. And then the timeline started

685
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: debating and I was like, well, that'd be weird if

686
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: you would just diss Travis Scott, like and first of all,

687
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 2: I'm a hip hop nerd, it's got to be about Kanye.

688
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: And then within fifteen minutes, Pushing T was like, nah,

689
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: it's directly about Travis Scott was talking about Kanye.

690
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: Was a though, mm hm, well Kanye caught a little

691
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: bar maybe.

692
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he I mean he caught one on the

693
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 2: first one as well with trumpets like push your Tea

694
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: has been continuing walls to get his juice fixing.

695
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 3: Thank you, Josh. This is like my my spinach, No.

696
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: It is spinach.

697
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 5: No, yeah, It's like literally spinach definitely is.

698
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: So yeah. The exact bar at the end of so

699
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: be it was. You cried in front of me, You

700
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: died in front of me. Calabasis took your bitch and

701
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: your pride in front of me. Her utopia had moved

702
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 2: right up the street, and her lip gloss was popping.

703
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: She ain't need you to eat.

704
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: What does any of that shit mean?

705
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 6: Well, we can we can break it down, Josh, pull

706
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 6: that up, pull the lyrics.

707
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: The net gonna call it the way they see it.

708
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: But I got the video I can share and a

709
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: eot They wouldn't believe it, but I can't unsee it.

710
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: Luckily I atmz it. So be it, so be it

711
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: all right? So we want to start right here? Do

712
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: we want to start in the timeline of why the

713
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: fuck push it is dissing a non rapper?

714
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: Uh?

715
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 2: This goes back at the end of the day Bape

716
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: may be the greatest fashion brand of all time to

717
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: the chaos that it has caused hip hop bait. I

718
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: think Bape has caused more chaos and hip hop than

719
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: maybe Ronald Reagan did at this point. Yeah, what this

720
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: all goes back to a fucking baite hoodie and some

721
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: Bape sneakers. This all goes back to clips Birdman Lil Wayne,

722
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: which again I don't want to go in super detail

723
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: because we did that when we had to explain the

724
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: Pushy t and Drake beef. But it all started there.

725
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: Everything trickled down that got to Push and Drake. We

726
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: saw where that ended up, which I still think has

727
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: something sort of to do with the Kendrick and twenty

728
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: v one. I still think.

729
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: It it derives.

730
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: So Push goes on. I forgot was the New York Times.

731
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: He goes to explain after so be it that Travis

732
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: Scott barge into the middle of a clip session with Pharrell,

733
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: you know, similar to what I do in sessions, just

734
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: just pretend to be a fly on the wall and

735
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: then just overtake everything and ruin the entire vibe. So

736
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: he goes in there to play Utopia for Farrell plays

737
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: every song, even plays Meltdown, just without the Drake verse.

738
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: There is footage which I guess was from like the

739
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: Utopia doc or something, which, of course the clip to

740
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: make it look funny, but Farrell's face was like, Yo,

741
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of my studio. He was just

742
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: bopping his head like hmmm.

743
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 3: So we don't think Farrell was feeling the Utopia probably was.

744
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: He probably was, so he doesn't play the Meltdown verse

745
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: that Drake has leaves the studio after ruining their session uninvited,

746
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: and then we hear Meltdown where Drake is clearly dissing Farrell,

747
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: which again I think is kind of fine because you're

748
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: affiliated with Push, Like, I just think if your man's

749
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: standing there, sometimes anybody could kind of get it, which

750
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: Push found to be disrespectful on Travis's behalf yeah, but

751
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: not be telling him come in here, don't come in here,

752
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 2: ask for Farrell's co sign. Farrell let you film interrupt

753
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: our entire session and then let somebody diss him the

754
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: next week on the very song that you played him.

755
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: I can see somebody feeling a way about that was

756
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: pushing this on huh no New sort of like within

757
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: the Farrell bars. Yeah, remember that it was something, you know,

758
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: melting down his legacy and you know, all that entire shit,

759
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: which he continued on to doing family matters. But with

760
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: that said, I don't think Push is wrong per se

761
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: for it. I just think it's a little random.

762
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 4: So Push is mad that Travis has a verse on

763
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 4: his album with Drake is dis in Pharrell.

764
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: Yes, and he is mad that he continues to play

765
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: the middle ground because to Push his credit. He even

766
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: went on there and said he thought it was nasty

767
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: when Travis was hyping up like that, which we all

768
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: saw and we covered on this podcast. Everyone saw that clip.

769
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: We thought it was weird too, like Shaman's like what

770
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: the fuck? And Push is saying, you're not even a rapper,

771
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: so why are you hyping up beef. You claim to

772
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: be neutral and like be on both sides, but now

773
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: you're hyping up to like that record, which is honestly

774
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: dissing somebody Push hates. So I give Push the credit

775
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: on that. Like you look Goofy doing that too, and

776
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: then you look Goofy coming in the studio playing some

777
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: shit that is gonna diss this guy the next week,

778
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: even though we know that I think Drake did that

779
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: record like the night before, but you're not gonna step

780
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: in like now. It was just with Pherell, like, don't

781
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: do that on my record.

782
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we've seen people where they'll be like, nah,

783
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: I can't, like come on, that's my man.

784
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: I can't put that verse on my album.

785
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: And we can't be hypocrites because when Drake put out

786
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: push ups and was throwing shots at at Future. I

787
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: understood it. Future didn't dis Drake on like that, But

788
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: you sitting there harmonized with somebody that is yeah, like yeah,

789
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: so yeah, I think Drake had every right to do that.

790
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: So that's where I do.

791
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: Feel push on this entire thing, like, yeah, I'm not

792
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: I'm mad at Pep would push it saying I'm not

793
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 4: mad at his stance on things. Obviously, I understand it, Like,

794
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: you know, these are rappers between Travis is not a rapper,

795
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: He's not about the bar, nobody down. He makes no

796
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: big songs and things like that, has a great live performance,

797
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 4: but you know rappers. Was pushes talking about the rappers,

798
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: the guys that really can construct these bars and really

799
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 4: you know, go at each other, like you know, I

800
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: could see him feeling the way. I just don't want

801
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 4: because I kind of feel like, now, I like the

802
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: fact that pushes addressing shit on wax. Let me put

803
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 4: that in there, and I would rather him be addressing

804
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: on wax than to be going live the corny shit

805
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 4: lots some rappers to go live and start.

806
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: Tweeting like that stuff is fine if you're also rapping.

807
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: If you be rapping.

808
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 4: If you putting it in the music, cool, but if

809
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: you not putting the music in, you just addressing your

810
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 4: issues with rappers on podcasts, on IG live or it's like,

811
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 4: come on, bro, get in the boot. So I salute

812
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,239
Speaker 4: Push you forgetting the booth and airing shit out and

813
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 4: you know, expressing his feelings. That's what this is about.

814
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: That's what hip hop is for. To get your shit off,

815
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 4: talk your shit. If you got something to say, say it,

816
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 4: stand on it. So I respect pushing for that. My

817
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 4: thing is, I don't want push it to fall into

818
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: this box to where it looks like beef or issues

819
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 4: are part of his rollout for.

820
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 2: His album See.

821
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: But to me that I don't want to fall into

822
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 4: that all because even with this Travis shit right, I

823
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 4: see more people talking about him dising travised than the

824
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 4: song or the video being as dope as it is.

825
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: But that's how it's always going to go, no matter

826
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: what I don't like. But there's also a large community

827
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: I feel on the timeline they're just talking about how

828
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: great Ace Trumpets is and I also beat this, and

829
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: how excited they are about this album, how great the

830
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: rollout has been. But to say that would Push, like

831
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: when was Lord Willing? When was the first Clips album?

832
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: Two thousand? Like two thousand and three maybe yeah, two

833
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: thousand and two too. M dang for the last.

834
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 4: Us the shit you was a jit baby day a

835
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 4: little shit. You was outside eating pickles and kool aidises.

836
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: That's what you was on.

837
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 5: You really.

838
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: Barefoot?

839
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 5: So go ahead y twenty three years Okay.

840
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: I can definitely say for Daytona with Infrared, it had

841
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: he threw a little shot at the end on the outro.

842
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it was part of the rollout, but yes,

843
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 2: it definitely got some attention. Then Drake ended up replying

844
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: and then we went down that rabbit hole. But I

845
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: wouldn't say that was the main focus of his rollout.

846
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: It's almost dry. I guess there was a few shots

847
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: here and there, but I didn't think the rollout at

848
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: all was around that. Matter of fact, that Daytona rollout

849
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: was the Kanye seven track shit, Like nobody was even

850
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: really thinking about Beef for that. They were excited for

851
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 2: what Kanye was marketing.

852
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying I'm.

853
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: Saying that somebody that Push has always done.

854
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: I see a lot of people saying that, like, oh,

855
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: here goes push again, doing the clout chase ship to

856
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: get attention. I'm like, dug, since two thousand and two,

857
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: he's done this like once or twice. This isn't really

858
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 2: a push thing per se. And some of our favorite

859
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: rappers Ship fifties Rollout was punching down on every other.

860
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 5: But you.

861
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: Like this is hip hop? Yeah, yeah, but that's it's

862
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: just this new generation that thinks it's corny to make

863
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: this another rappers part of a rollout when it's been

864
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: that way since nineteen eighty eight.

865
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 4: It's listen, beef and hip hop has always been the

866
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 4: first hip hop record might have been a disrecord. We're

867
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: really go back and listen, yeah, and dissect those balls.

868
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 4: They might have been talking about some niggas from up

869
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 4: the block, so we know that. But what I'm saying

870
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: is because now my thing is if if Travis responds

871
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 4: on his next album, right God, I'm just saying.

872
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear it. I don't I just

873
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 3: don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear traveling.

874
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: Want to fucking area. I don't care if shapens the ship.

875
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: I think I think Travis I don't want to hear it.

876
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: Travis is a great entertained, has great records, great musician,

877
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 4: one of the best live shows that you probably will see.

878
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: Love his merge, his sneakers, He's doing a lot of

879
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 4: great ship. But when it comes to just rapping, I don't.

880
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: Want to just hear.

881
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear Travis going there and trying

882
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 4: to bar push your tea down.

883
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear that. I'm not here for that.

884
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: But if he responds in a Travis Wade in the

885
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 4: middle of a song somewhere where you know niggas is

886
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 4: marsh pitting and it's you know, push pushing, fuck push

887
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 4: it on some rock she I don't know, however you

888
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 4: want to do.

889
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: I could see that happening.

890
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 4: But then now does push you on the next project?

891
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 4: What is he doing? Is he is he back to

892
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 4: is he flaming travers up on the next album?

893
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying.

894
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to album. You might just get a

895
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 2: response record out the gate, but.

896
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I just don't want it to

897
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: fall into that.

898
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: I love the video is amazing, you know, that's what

899
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: the clips have always done. That has given us great

900
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: visuals and things like that. So this is right on

901
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 4: brand for the clips. But yeah, I respect it. Man,

902
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 4: if you got an issue with somebody and rap rap,

903
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 4: and I.

904
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: Saw a lot of people like, yo, that's that's corny

905
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: because like everyone knows, Travis doesn't even rap like that.

906
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: Since when can a rapp or not rap about shit

907
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: that happened if it wasn't rappers, Like it has to

908
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 2: be a lyrical rapper that you just explain a situation.

909
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: Eight.

910
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: I've heard rappers talk about girls they fucked, but that

911
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 2: girl can't rap. Did a whole verse about her. All

912
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: she can do is reply on Twitter. Yeah, I don't

913
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: think that makes them like this is nah.

914
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: I don't think that Pusha did this thinking it would

915
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 4: turn into a back and forth. Like I think he

916
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 4: just had something to say and he wanted to address it,

917
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 4: and he addressed it through the music, and I respect that.

918
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: I always respect when the rappers rap and get on

919
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 4: the song or get in the booth and get their

920
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 4: shit off. Like as long as you not just on

921
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 4: social media and on podcasts talking about the rappers, it's

922
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 4: like cool, give us the music. Do it through the music,

923
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: and that's what hip hop is for, or what that's

924
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 4: one of the things that hip hop is for. But

925
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 4: I respect him, man, I'm not mad at this at all.

926
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: We think we get well, I don't know, because does

927
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 2: Drake even like Travis Scott right now? That's what happens

928
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: when you get in the middle like that, Like then

929
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: everyone just hates you. So I was about to say,

930
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: do we get a Travis and Drake record where it's

931
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 2: a hit, but they are sending shots like which they've

932
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: done in the past that it's been incredible. I don't

933
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: think we get a Travis and Drake record ever. Again,

934
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: I don't think that happens me personally.

935
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 3: I don't.

936
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 4: I don't know for sure, but I don't. I mean,

937
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: after what Travis did, I don't see I would look

938
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 4: at that ship Google, Yeah.

939
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't see that happening. How has podcasting affected your dating?

940
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 5: It hasn't really, I'm fine.

941
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 6: How for a while, How would you think it would

942
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 6: affect it negatively?

943
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: Because you're probably more open and honest on your podcast

944
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 4: than you are on television about your personal you know,

945
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 4: life and.

946
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 6: Joy in in in my real life, Like.

947
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 5: You're gonna get joy.

948
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: No, I get that part.

949
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 4: But on Tandra, but like because us US podcasting, we

950
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 4: speak about how like you meet people and you know

951
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: they may have heard your podcast, they see clips of

952
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 4: your podcast, they hear you say something, and then they

953
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: make this preconceived notion about the type of person.

954
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 3: That you may be.

955
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 6: Oh, I don't date little boys, so I don't. I

956
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 6: can't even I can't even imagine. Like there's certain conversations

957
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 6: I couldn't even imagine having, like, oh, I saw this

958
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 6: on your podcast, so like is that how you really feel?

959
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: Imagine a decade of it, what it happened?

960
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 5: Happened?

961
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 6: I can't even imagine this conversation. I cannot imagine. It's worst, man,

962
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 6: having this conversation with me.

963
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: Well, listen, it's worse when you know people right say

964
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: you dated somebody and you know them before podcasting, okay,

965
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 4: and now you have a podcast and then they hear

966
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 4: you say something in your podcast and bring it to

967
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: you in real life and actually, like the relationship would

968
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 4: really change between y'all, like your parents, Well that's it,

969
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 4: but that that happens it just like yo, you know

970
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: me for real?

971
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: Like what's wrong with you?

972
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 4: Like and it's like it's a real like I'm not

973
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 4: you said that, Like that's or I didn't know that's what?

974
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 4: Like you've know you know me, we've known each other

975
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 4: ten fifteen years.

976
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Like that?

977
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 4: That happens Like people will hear something they had clip

978
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 4: and be like, have you had.

979
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 6: This, Suspa, Yes, I've had someone I was living with

980
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 6: questioning me about things that.

981
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 5: Happen on a podcast.

982
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm like, you you know for you know

983
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 7: everything about me? Why are you questioning me about something

984
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 7: I'm talking about on a damn podcast?

985
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: And usually it comes from selfish reasons of they feel

986
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: that someone else is going to ask them about it,

987
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: not what you said. It's that, oh, someone may hear

988
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: my friend about.

989
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 3: Something like yo, what's up with your yeah?

990
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 7: Man?

991
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 3: Like he only talking about Uh.

992
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 5: It sounds like they want a man with a different

993
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 5: and woman with a different occupation.

994
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: That's the worst. That's very important, And that's okay because

995
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: it can be an.

996
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 4: Adjustment like that's because they're dating a man with a

997
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 4: different sex.

998
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: By birds, where did you?

999
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 5: That's why I said I saw.

1000
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 2: The worst is actually when you meet people that you've

1001
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: already had this gig, like I met you this way. Sorry,

1002
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: why are you even question me on this ship? I

1003
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: actually understand more of what Maul was saying. And people

1004
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 2: that knew you before podcasting and aredjusting with you of

1005
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: like saying personal things that the world may have not known.

1006
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: Not anything crazy, But people that you meet when you

1007
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: were already in media and have the nerve to say

1008
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: anything are the ones that blow my fucking mind. Like

1009
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: you met me right like what do you I'm gonna

1010
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: stop doing this because you showed up.

1011
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 7: You came across like my clip. That's how you slid

1012
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 7: my DMS. I don't know why you would think that.

1013
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 7: And I was saying, wow, shit, you laughed back then.

1014
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 7: Now it's not funny.

1015
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is we have.

1016
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 6: I don't have any what to knock on. But this

1017
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 6: has not happened to me yet. I don't know that

1018
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 6: it's ever happened to me in my career.

1019
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't.

1020
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 6: I mean, that's just not I don't think that's a

1021
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 6: conversation I would entertain. Like I'm almost forty years old.

1022
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 6: Way you got your I'm talking about.

1023
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 5: Like I don't like.

1024
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 6: That's what I'm not talking like like what I love

1025
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 6: for you is that you are still on your journey

1026
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 6: because I'm not your person, and you are going to

1027
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 6: find the person that fulfills you and makes you confident.

1028
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: Don't tell me.

1029
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: I don't tell me what journey, my journey, my journey. What

1030
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 5: I know you're not?

1031
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: You know we can't.

1032
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 6: You're on your journey. I'm not on your journey. I'm

1033
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 6: not dinner And there's where you that's it. You got,

1034
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 6: this is where you get off.

1035
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 7: But to be fair, Joy doesn't say the wild ship

1036
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 7: that we we say really wild things.

1037
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: Is a little more calm unless they're like really a

1038
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: Steeler fan.

1039
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 5: I mean.

1040
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 2: Man, I mean yes, it can lead to heartbreak, which

1041
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: you know, leaves a void that I feel like only

1042
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ can feel.

1043
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 5: It's true, he is he is here.

1044
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 6: Wow, that was that was callback heaven. What a great

1045
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 6: full circle moment. That's also a part of where we're

1046
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 6: on different paths, you know. Oh yeah, we didn't give

1047
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 6: the guy and his advice. I think he I think

1048
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 6: he's trying to figure out how long his girl is

1049
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 6: trying to get over him.

1050
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 5: But no, I think we gave him a good advice.

1051
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 4: We don't know it depends on what happened, what you do,

1052
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 4: What did you do? What did you do to it happened?

1053
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 3: What did you do?

1054
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 5: What did you do? Or maybe he's the new guy,

1055
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 5: he wait for her to get over older. Don't do that.

1056
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 5: That's my advice.

1057
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: That's yeah, because he didn't add any context. I felt

1058
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: like he was waiting on a chick. That was you know,

1059
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: That's what I thought the whole ship was.

1060
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 4: Sometimes you beat that nigga, you'd be like, Yo, like Yo,

1061
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 4: that nigga's whack.

1062
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: You got me waiting like Yo, what fuck that nigga? Man,

1063
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: I'm trying to go to Turks.

1064
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 5: From all what we do.

1065
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 6: You don't don't be that person. Do not be the

1066
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 6: next don't bring the heartbreak person. It's not going to

1067
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 6: work out.

1068
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be the heartbreak. Don't bring the heartbreak. Don't

1069
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 2: be don't be Sam Rosstein unless you never be Sam Roastin,

1070
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: unless Ginger is always going to go She was a whole.

1071
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 6: Boy, unless you're unless you're comfortable with not ever getting

1072
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 6: a full version of that person.

1073
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1074
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Joey, sometimes you just want to go to

1075
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: Turks though.

1076
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, Like, go to turks by all

1077
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 5: means go.

1078
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: To turks, but don't go with expectations.

1079
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 7: Expectations, Yes, okay, yeah, the pictures you take, she gonna

1080
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 7: send to him and say, look what you're missing out on.

1081
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 5: Hey, look allegedly I've never done it.

1082
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 3: Y'all be playing it. Y'all be playing a dangerous game.

1083
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: He make my pictures.

1084
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 5: We played different games than then y'all play.

1085
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, games are wayt sick because.

1086
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: Y'all like to play with.

1087
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 4: Y'all like to go all the way, like y'all see

1088
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 4: death and y'all like to look at it whereas we know,

1089
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 4: like we don't want to go to jail.

1090
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 5: I don't want to go to jail either.

1091
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 3: Do you want to go to the cemetery.

1092
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 5: When it's when it's time?

1093
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 3: What time it is?

1094
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 5: We're all gonna end up one day.

1095
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 4: No, But I'm just saying, you playing with like when

1096
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 4: like the marriage just said, I take you on vacation,

1097
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 4: you taking pictures. I'm taking pictures. I'm a photographer, and

1098
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 4: you sending the pictures that I took of you to

1099
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 4: your ex.

1100
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: And when the international waters.

1101
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: Why y'all laughing at I'm mad at y'all even laughed that.

1102
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: That was some time even fun.

1103
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 3: It's not even funny.

1104
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: I like that, not any a joke.

1105
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: Like, what the was that about?

1106
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: I think we're trying to have a serious conversation. You

1107
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: guys are laughing.

1108
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 5: Do we still have fun in Turks?

1109
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: Oh? We had a fun?

1110
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 5: This is why what you don't know what.

1111
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: I'm worried about. First of all, the photographer owns the photos.

1112
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 2: That's my IP. I don't care if you in the photos.

1113
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: I own that motherfucking photo.

1114
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 5: Speak without speaking? Is what just happened?

1115
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: Oh no, I know y'all.

1116
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 4: Can I know y'all spoke and I heard it, but

1117
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 4: I said, yeah, it was very loud. But it's just like,

1118
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 4: because we can't do that as niggas, we can't do that,

1119
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: do stuff like that. I can't saying and send it

1120
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 4: to my ex.

1121
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 3: That ain't fly.

1122
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 5: Why would you send the picture of your feet so she.

1123
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: Knows where I'm at toes in the sin.

1124
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 2: If your X cared about you, she'd know he was

1125
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: at the fact that you gotta tell her she's over here.

1126
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: She's gonna see that coach line and be like that

1127
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: I watch that.

1128
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 6: Why do men, why do you have to be crazy

1129
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 6: for men to feel like you care about them mommy issues.

1130
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: Oh I don't feel like that. I don't know.

1131
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 4: I don't I don't think crazy all the time they

1132
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 4: ask you you never had a girl.

1133
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 3: I never had it. I never had a fight with

1134
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: a girl.

1135
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 4: Never like nothing, crazy like I've never experienced that type

1136
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 4: of relationship. Never strict, Not that I'm strict, it's just

1137
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 4: that this is what it is and this is what

1138
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 4: it ain't. Yeah, but we can we don't have a

1139
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 4: We're gonna have fun notion after labor Day. And that's

1140
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: his that's his sonate he's breaking up.

1141
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 3: No, that's that's stupid. I'm not that guy.

1142
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 4: But I just don't because I think you know, when

1143
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 4: it's getting to that toxic point where it's like disrespect

1144
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 4: is coming in. Like we just saw the the couple

1145
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 4: that he killed her after he got off live. He

1146
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 4: killed his girl and the cops are chasing him and

1147
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 4: he killed herself.

1148
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: It's like a little more excessive than I think.

1149
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 4: But if you look at it, but I'm saying, but

1150
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: if you look at the IG live, they're arguing, it

1151
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 4: looks like it's played. It's something. According to the comments,

1152
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 4: this is what they always did, like they get on

1153
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 4: each other's lives. So I told she like, yeah, I

1154
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 4: caught him cheating that he mad, yeah, you know fuck that,

1155
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 4: nigga da da da da da.

1156
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: I ain't never touched no nigga.

1157
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 6: It was.

1158
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 5: That's relations like domestic violence and extreme abuse or I

1159
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 5: think murder suicide exists.

1160
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. Is what I'm saying, is

1161
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: it starts.

1162
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 5: So No, You're absolutely right, it does.

1163
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 6: And I'm talking about sort of the like more the

1164
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 6: more gentle version of this, not the starter kit for.

1165
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: Dragging on a relationship with two people that shouldn't be

1166
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: together type of thing.

1167
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 6: Many times I'll called you fifty times private.

1168
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's in that.

1169
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 3: That's never heard.

1170
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always want to do women not like I know,

1171
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: women think we're dumb sometimes, But why is this like

1172
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: the private fifty times? Oh, I'm going to answer the

1173
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: thirty ninth one.

1174
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 5: You've had someone call you fifty times good for you.

1175
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: And even after like the fifty never you got.

1176
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 5: To it's good.

1177
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, baby, we can't do that.

1178
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: Baby can't ask you if it's good.

1179
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: I was giving I was giving up like a tyler Perry.

1180
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's nasty calling some wack ship.

1181
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 5: Fifty times it's crazy.

1182
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 2: Calling with your number getting blocked, and then calling from

1183
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: your homegirl's number that I know blocked, and then a

1184
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: private number like I'm not going to understand that Cocidentially,

1185
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: A lot of that be ego too. A couple of

1186
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: days later, though, y'all want the last little get off,

1187
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: like y'all need that, like if the man got the

1188
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: last get off in the hole, back and forth and

1189
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 2: blocking all of that, sometimes almost eagle like, no he

1190
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 2: can't just.

1191
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 7: Yet, back in my talks, back in my toxic days.

1192
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 7: My ego is the most important thing. Once I know

1193
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 7: I've lost, like the love, the ego, I gotta protect

1194
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 7: the ego because I can't go out sad like this,

1195
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 7: even though no one's watching but God, but.

1196
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: I am telling Tyler Perrol.

1197
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 5: But what I'm not about to do is I'm not.

1198
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 5: I'm not.

1199
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 6: I can't because of egotistical I have a lot of pride.

1200
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 6: So there's just certain things like it doesn't matter what

1201
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 6: the fuck I want to do, you are not catching

1202
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 6: me outside acting like that absolutely not.

1203
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: Does not affect the joy.

1204
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: Pride can turn on you in that way too, though,

1205
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 2: because pride can be good in that instance of like,

1206
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: I'm not even dealing with this shit. I got too

1207
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: much pride to do with the psycho. Also, pride can

1208
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: be I'm not letting this psycho get one up on

1209
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: over me. I let's go play in the mud.

1210
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 6: Yeah no, no, no, you don't want to play in the mud.

1211
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 6: You have to determine what the what the stakes are,

1212
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 6: and what the win is. Like in any situation, you

1213
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 6: should ask yourself, what's.

1214
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 5: The win here?

1215
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 6: Like worst case scenario, this best case scenario. That worst

1216
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 6: case scenario is pretty bad. It's probably for the best

1217
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 6: that you just leave that alone. Yeah, you're sing gospel?

1218
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 6: Yeah our Instagram? Yeah, I mean I don't. I hope

1219
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 6: you guys aren't speaking this over me, because that's gonna

1220
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 6: be a really irritating conversation because the last time this

1221
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 6: happened was actually happened with the podcast because we were

1222
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 6: talking about this god of splitting the bill conversation.

1223
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 5: Which we will never be free of, we will never

1224
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 5: be to look at shackles.

1225
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 6: I had never experienced it, Like I still haven't experienced

1226
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 6: it myself, but I like didn't even know this was

1227
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 6: like a real thing, splitting the bill. Yeah, I mean

1228
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 6: it's just since I don't know's it still is very

1229
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 6: confusing to me, Like it doesn't make any offense, but.

1230
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: Niggas is stumbling to pick that check up.

1231
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 5: But Joy, like yo, I got gott It's unimaginable.

1232
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 3: Have you ever have you ever reached like pump fake

1233
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: reached for the.

1234
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 5: Bill for us for a like very clear date.

1235
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah No, never even pump fake for what just to

1236
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 2: see just to kind of test where he was at

1237
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: a date.

1238
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 5: No, I've done it in my relationship.

1239
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 6: And then like when you're in a relationship, we're not

1240
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 6: talking about in a relationship.

1241
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 5: I'm talking about like you or like.

1242
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: You said, let's go to dinner tomorrow, I.

1243
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 5: Want to take you to dinner, And then you think.

1244
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 3: We're splitting the bill the bill.

1245
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 6: No, that's crazy because also it's like if I, like say,

1246
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, like I want to talk to

1247
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 6: you guys about like some business shap let's like go

1248
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 6: to dinner. I asked you like I'm going to pay

1249
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 6: for it and write it off obviously, but like.

1250
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: Because they'll do that and still expect us to pick

1251
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 3: up the bill.

1252
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 6: And you no, no, no, no, No one's raised right, But

1253
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 6: I don't want to get too splaining bill conversations.

1254
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 5: But I just couldn't believe it was like a real

1255
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 5: thing that people were like, house are doing.

1256
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, And it happened to my girlfriend and I

1257
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 6: told a story on the podcast. And people still bring

1258
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 6: this shit up to me, like people still bring it

1259
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 6: up to me. A young man walked up to me

1260
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 6: at an event and he was like, you know, I

1261
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 6: got to ask you, like, are you serious about the

1262
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 6: splitting the bill conversation? And I was like, can I

1263
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 6: just have a follow up before I answer you? Like

1264
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 6: how old are you? And he was like, I'm twenty four?

1265
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 6: I said, baby, I'm I'm thirty eight years old. Yeah,

1266
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 6: be worried about nothing I'm doing. Like, with all due respect,

1267
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 6: you have so much more life to live. You and

1268
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 6: I will never be in that situation. I wouldn't do

1269
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 6: that to you now unless.

1270
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: But he should.

1271
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 6: Also, I'm striking four, which I'm out of the business

1272
00:52:59,640 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 6: of doing.

1273
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: So.

1274
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 5: You used to trick the Flying Woman, be tricking.

1275
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 4: I'll be trying to tell y'all Joyne was tricking joy

1276
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 4: cut the ship, Like, how I missed this?

1277
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 5: You tricked so much tricks.

1278
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 6: Wow, I'm retired. I will not be doing that no more.

1279
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 6: But yeah, for sure it's fun something.

1280
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: What's the most expensive thing?

1281
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what's the tricking and what's the.

1282
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: Most two part question, what's the most expensive item you bought?

1283
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: And then what's the most amount of just cash or wire.

1284
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 3: That you gave? Joe Ain't never wiring no nigga, no money.

1285
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not buying that, joy, it was your

1286
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: own management.

1287
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 4: Joey, you wired a man money before? Haircut money or

1288
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 4: like wiring a nigga haircut money as cute like cute?

1289
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 6: You can't How is that recre Why are you talking like.

1290
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: Officially?

1291
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 5: Or do you like pay for a wire like I

1292
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 5: sent a wire today.

1293
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: I have to pay for a wire when you hit

1294
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: a high certain amount of money? Yeah, yeah, okay, but

1295
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: any type of exchange of.

1296
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: Fact, I just know that.

1297
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 4: Lets you know where she's playing at. Joey, how much

1298
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 4: money have you sent the man before?

1299
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 6: I mean, this isn't really fair like in a relationship, laship,

1300
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 6: in a relationship, off the rip, off the rip, because

1301
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 6: off the rip, I don't do okay.

1302
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, any trick in relationship women can men

1303
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: can't explain? Wait, let Joe, because this is a lot

1304
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 2: going on.

1305
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 6: Joy, let me say this. I'm exaggerating the trick part

1306
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 6: of it.

1307
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, these.

1308
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 2: Are these are black magic cameras.

1309
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 6: Okay, So if you like, if you are like support someone,

1310
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 6: is that tricking?

1311
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: Yes?

1312
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 5: Okay, then yeah guilty.

1313
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 3: Support like pay rent?

1314
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,479
Speaker 2: Yeah you pays ballot Hall of fame.

1315
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 5: Trick is that.

1316
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 2: You paid a man's rent before that's first ballot, like consistently,

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00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: like the person that has their speech ready before or they.

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00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 4: Yoda this month and I ain't got to enjoy your

1319
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 4: my check coming the next month.

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Speaker 3: Baby? Can you hold me down?

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Speaker 6: Like? Well, I am through the mattress he was putting.

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00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 6: I'm trying to way around there, dude, this account if you.

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00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: Live there, Okay, that's tricky, that's tricky for the trick. Yeah, no,

1324
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: if you live if you live there, doesn'tcount. If you

1325
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: paid the whole rent, I don't know count No, But

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00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: but that's your girlfriend.

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00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 5: What do you mean it's not my boyfriend?

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00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: Hell?

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00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, well did he like cook take care of

1330
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 6: the kids, like you know what's like?

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00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 5: I don't have not one child.

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00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 3: I don't have not.

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00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 5: Child earn his keep.

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00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: Yes he did, Okay, I don't know if that's trick

1335
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 2: and per se and what's your keep?

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00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 3: No?

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00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 6: No, no, like I I've I've definitely, I've definitely tricked before.

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00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 6: But you know, like this is why, like the dynamics

1339
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 6: of a relationship are so complicated, like what what a

1340
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 6: woman should do, what a man should do. That's why

1341
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 6: the splitting the bill conversation is so funny to me,

1342
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 6: because then, like you guys are everything is an absolute

1343
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 6: on the internet.

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00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 5: I will not pay for a first day.

1345
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: Like the ones saying that or the one's doing it right,

1346
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: like I don't.

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00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 6: It's not even about like principle of like I'm a woman,

1348
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 6: I shall not pay.

1349
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 5: It's like I'm a busy person circumstances.

1350
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 6: I take myself to rich Auntie Mashtro's dinners when I

1351
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 6: want to. So if you were gonna come to me

1352
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 6: and ask me for a night of my life, like

1353
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 6: when you think about the times that you've spent with people,

1354
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 6: like you gave them a day of your life, that's

1355
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 6: fucking crazy. Like one day you'll be on your deathbed

1356
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 6: hopefully and you'll be looking back like damn that motherfucker

1357
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 6: got eight.

1358
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 5: Hours from me.

1359
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 6: Crazy, I could use that right now, That's how I

1360
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 6: look at times. So if I'm going to have a

1361
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 6: dinner with you, like I'm gonna sit across from you,

1362
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 6: listen to you, and you have asked me to do this,

1363
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 6: I think it's respect full that you pay for it. Now,

1364
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 6: if you're twenty one years old and you guys are

1365
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 6: just starting dating, you're just starting your careers, Like.

1366
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 5: That's a different conversation.

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00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 6: You know, you're talking about this, why you dates who

1368
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 6: has like businesses and three full time jobs and an assistant? Like, no,

1369
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 6: what do you mean why would I be Why would

1370
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 6: I pay for you to eat food?

1371
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 3: Right?

1372
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 5: I could have just.

1373
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 6: Uber eats and filled them and watched Mobland Like that's

1374
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 6: not This is not a good use of my time.

1375
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 6: And I just think it's more about respect than anything else.

1376
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 6: It's not even about like gender roles.

1377
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it makes sense, and you're definitely talking to

1378
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: the wrong people because we definitely believe in men paying

1379
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: for dates.

1380
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 5: So they paid for my food ship as they should.

1381
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1382
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never understood why that was even like a

1383
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: conversation or debate on Twitter, Like, but even I think

1384
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 2: it's just started founding.

1385
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 6: Like other people even when I was broke up. That's

1386
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 6: but that's okay, It's okay. Yeah, I've been broke. We've

1387
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 6: all been broke. But if you are broke, why are

1388
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 6: you Why are you bothering?

1389
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 3: Why are you hungry?

1390
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 6: No, hunger is understandable, but why are you worried about me?

1391
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 6: And like this, I wasn't worried about paying for other

1392
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 6: people's food or not paying for food when I was

1393
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 6: when I was broke. I think it's in general though,

1394
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 6: Like I I feel like this is a little bit

1395
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 6: of a call back to I just I need to

1396
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 6: feel feminine, you know, like I just just there's not

1397
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 6: a whole lot men can.

1398
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 5: Do for me.

1399
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 6: I always say, like all a man can do for

1400
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 6: me is love me. That doesn't require money. Like, it's

1401
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 6: about intentionality. So it's really not about like are we

1402
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 6: going to the nicest restaurant, which is nice and I appreciate,

1403
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 6: Like I don't know how much.

1404
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 3: We go to some good hood spots too though, yeah.

1405
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 6: Or that too, but like that too, like take me

1406
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,959
Speaker 6: somewhere that is intentional, like this is a spot I like,

1407
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 6: like whatever into her work?

1408
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, you like framp shrimp, just the best frost shrimp

1409
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 4: in other Right, let's go.

1410
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 6: That sounds like that sounds like actually a more interesting

1411
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 6: time than going to a super expensive restaurant.

1412
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: Are you good in that? Because we might not make

1413
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: your gad out first wives, we might not get out

1414
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: of it's like little survival to keep the call, keeping

1415
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: the call run.

1416
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 3: You might not get it.

1417
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: Took me to your oppos hood to get a shrimped. Yeah,

1418
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: get your journey.

1419
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 5: There's a lot of like gender wars going on.

1420
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 2: Right, they get clicks, but I gets stupid. Before we

1421
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: let you go, I want to ask, because I have

1422
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: never been tricked on. Outside of what Demara said as

1423
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: far as the mattress, I don't want to get in

1424
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 2: that world. How do I approach a woman and ask

1425
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: her how to trick on.

1426
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 5: Me phone calls? I don't know anything about that.

1427
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: She wasn't tricking on me. She was probably probably needed

1428
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: some money.

1429
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 3: They always do.

1430
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: How do I get a woman? How do I approach

1431
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: a woman in the tricking situation?

1432
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 5: So you want to you want a trick.

1433
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: I've never been tricked on.

1434
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 4: Crazy questions, so you want to trick, but you ain't

1435
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 4: see this quest so you want to.

1436
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: Cause I'm not a trick, at least by my standards.

1437
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm a trick, but I do pay

1438
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: four things.

1439
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 5: Whether you want to be tricked on or you want

1440
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 5: to be a trick.

1441
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to be a trick. I've never been

1442
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: a trick. I want a girl to trick on me.

1443
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: It's never happened. Oh how do I go about doing that?

1444
00:59:58,960 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: This show?

1445
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 5: You don't. You don't have this rival anxiety to to

1446
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 5: do that.

1447
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 2: To go through the mental gymnastics accepting.

1448
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 5: You know, I don't think you're built for it.

1449
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't want to. You don't like to bed.

1450
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't. It's not all be integraded.

1451
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 7: You don't like being bothered enough first, like you wouldn't

1452
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 7: be able to give what was necessary for someone.

1453
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 6: There's a certain level of like humility, okay, required for

1454
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 6: what you're talking about.

1455
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: We can leave it at that, I know anything.

1456
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 5: That's a gentle way of saying it.

1457
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, Joy, Please tell everybody the name of your podcast

1458
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 6: and where they can listen to it too personal.

1459
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 5: You can subscribe on YouTube.

1460
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,479
Speaker 3: And listening to all the crazy.

1461
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 6: Platforms and follow that to Personal show and we do.

1462
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 6: We do a voicemail or advice segment to Number two Personal,

1463
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 6: which is really fun. Actually, our episode this week is

1464
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 6: with Clarsa Shields. She's amazing the champ. She was great,

1465
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 6: so love talking to her.

1466
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 4: And mh, I'm gonna call leave a voice mann me

1467
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 4: how we ain't gonna know?

1468
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: As you, I would say, we should leave one as

1469
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: a pod.

1470
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 5: You change change your voice right now.

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01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, And you can watch Speak on FS one weekdays

1472
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 6: with myself and Keishon Johnson and Paul Pierce.

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Speaker 5: We have a good time.